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4-21 H2: All Things Kraken w/ Mike Benton, Reading Your Texts & Cross Talk · The Gregg Bell Show

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  Speaker 3: right now, Mike Benton, the Captain pre postgame inner period
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  Speaker 3: intermission host, joining us a day before Jason botterol the
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  Speaker 3: general manager of the Kraken, is to speak at Northgate
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  Speaker 3: about the state of the team and the team in
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  Speaker 3: the big picture has missed the playoffs four in its
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  Speaker 3: five years of existence, including this year Stanley Cup playoffs
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  Speaker 3: that they are watching yet again. Hello Mike, Hello Greg,
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  Speaker 3: how are you.
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  Speaker 4: Congratulations, welcome back. Good to talk to you again.
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  Speaker 2: I appreciate that.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you. It's good to talk to guys like you regularly.
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  Speaker 3: Once again. When Jason Botroll speaks tomorrow, if I were there, Mike,
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  Speaker 3: I would ask, what's the number one thing you need
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  Speaker 3: to fix to get the team of the playoffs. What
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  Speaker 3: do you think that is? What do you think Jason
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  Speaker 3: Botrow would say to that question.
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  Speaker 4: I think what we're looking for Greg, out of tomorrow
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  Speaker 4: is a comple revamp of this roster, and I think
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  Speaker 4: that is something that's more aligned with the Lane Lambert attitude.
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  Speaker 4: The Lane Lambert team I D which you know, they
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  Speaker 4: play with more of an edge, they play with more bite,
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  Speaker 4: they play with more attitude, and they've got some size.
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  Speaker 4: But they've also got to add up front where Jason
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  Speaker 4: Battolo goes with this, we just do not know.
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  Speaker 2: I mean really, at.
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  Speaker 4: This point on April twenty first, eleven o four am
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  Speaker 4: talking about this, we just do not know, and we're
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  Speaker 4: gonna here. I think a lot about this audit that's
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  Speaker 4: going to happen within the next couple of weeks. Lane
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  Speaker 4: Lambert mentioned last week that this is a time for
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the internal meetings for this. If I
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  Speaker 4: were a betting man, I think just kind of reading
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  Speaker 4: between the lines of what Todd Liwiki mentioned when he
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  Speaker 4: met with the media several days ago, I wouldn't be
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  Speaker 4: surprised if they're looking at more of an aggressive roster
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  Speaker 4: turnover then, just say, versus blowing the whole thing up
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  Speaker 4: and going young all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: I see merits here to both.
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  Speaker 4: Arguments, and I think if you look at the way
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  Speaker 4: that Chicago's done this and they're making strides with Connor
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  Speaker 4: Badar and San Jose. They're going to be a problem
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  Speaker 4: next year with mattlam Celebrini and Will Smith, the Ducks,
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  Speaker 4: with Leo Carlson, the young guys they've got. They gave
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  Speaker 4: Edmonton a scare and they're well coach. They showed that
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  Speaker 4: last night hanging in there with Edmonton. But I just
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  Speaker 4: think of the dynamics that play with where the Kraken
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  Speaker 4: want to be and how they want to fast track
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  Speaker 4: this right back on the winning path, given the cap
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  Speaker 4: states that they're going to have, given the draft picks
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  Speaker 4: that they can easily trade. I mean, I just think
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  Speaker 4: that with you know, the course of action and the
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  Speaker 4: attitude in which they've taken here, this is I think
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  Speaker 4: where we're going to see the likeliest path of this.
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  Speaker 4: But within the next couple of weeks that's going to
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  Speaker 4: be basically confirmed out of Jason battle roll.
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  Speaker 2: As far as where they want.
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  Speaker 3: When I spoke to Todd Laiwiki when I was co
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  Speaker 3: hosting with Ashley the Morning Show last week, I asked him,
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  Speaker 3: wait a minute, what about this internal audit. How independent
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  Speaker 3: can the audit be if it's being done by Jason Bottero,
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  Speaker 3: led by the general manager who making all the decisions
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  Speaker 3: a lot of them anyway in the last year. And
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  Speaker 3: he said, well, we're going to bring an outside person in.
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  Speaker 3: It's not right. Yeah, who's that outside person who does
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  Speaker 3: todd liwiki, who did the crack and trust to come
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  Speaker 3: in and clean up their shop and say do this?
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  Speaker 2: Do that?
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  Speaker 4: Well, if I can go back to this, you know,
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  Speaker 4: phrasing of the independent audit, so the way that this works,
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  Speaker 4: and we've learned this Ian Furness and I, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we work hand in hand with somebody in the broadcast team.
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  Speaker 4: Her name is Alison Luke and does a phenomenal job,
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  Speaker 4: but she's had experience before, you know, outside of hockey
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  Speaker 4: working in these kind of environments. And basically, if I
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  Speaker 4: can just distill it down to this, a GM or
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  Speaker 4: anybody else serves as a point person and that they
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  Speaker 4: select the independence auditor coming in to examine every corner
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  Speaker 4: of the organization. And so Jason Boterell, for the lack
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  Speaker 4: of a better term, will be a stakeholder in this
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  Speaker 4: and that he's going to be the point man running
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  Speaker 4: this thing. And then individual coming in to run this world.
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  Speaker 4: Then basically, you know, check every box. And I'm just
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  Speaker 4: you know, I'm thinking about from you know, from small
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  Speaker 4: stuff from you know, their their their travel, their schedule,
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  Speaker 4: you know, the often the amount of times that players
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  Speaker 4: are practicing versus wrestling, to the even the bigger picture
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  Speaker 4: as far as drafting, developing the appropriate personnel in charge
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  Speaker 4: of all of this, and you know, what ways that
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  Speaker 4: they can improve. And I'm just using you know, the
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  Speaker 4: the example of where they want to go and if
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  Speaker 4: they want to aggressively overturn this roster, what can they
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  Speaker 4: do to improve their environment to make this place more
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  Speaker 4: attractive for free agents to come. The number one priority
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  Speaker 4: that we hear a lot about in the NHL when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to an attractive place for free agents or
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  Speaker 4: guys who will move there away, their no trade clause,
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  Speaker 4: no movement clause is are they going to go to
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  Speaker 4: a winning program? And the facts of the crack and
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  Speaker 4: have only made the playoffs once here in the first
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  Speaker 4: five years, a shine of an expansion team has now gone.
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  Speaker 2: So what you have to do.
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  Speaker 4: Are work here, will basically work your corners in different areas,
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  Speaker 4: whether it comes to the practice frequens is already one
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  Speaker 4: of the greatest of the entire league, if not the
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  Speaker 4: best one. And we talk about the Vancouver team that
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  Speaker 4: doesn't even have one. That's a big issue for them.
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  Speaker 4: But how they can you know, support players, you know,
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  Speaker 4: you know, give more. I think of a better environment
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  Speaker 4: would travel. What you're looking to do is work around
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  Speaker 4: the edge, is to try to creatively make your place
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  Speaker 4: better as a pitch for players who want to come here.
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  Speaker 4: Our Timmy Penera one waves no Movement claus to come
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  Speaker 4: from New York to hear La was basically the one
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  Speaker 4: place he was going to go. But there are also
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  Speaker 4: other areas of competition that crack I have to deal
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  Speaker 4: with when it comes to the teams that they aren't,
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  Speaker 4: say in the upper tier, like Colorado, Dallas, Vegas, Anaheim
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  Speaker 4: is phil on the come up. They aren't in that
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  Speaker 4: upper tier, but they play in a great place to
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  Speaker 4: play with weather. San Jose is the same thing. Florida
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  Speaker 4: is the same thing. Buffalo is going to get there
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  Speaker 4: because they have a winning program that is on the rise.
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  Speaker 4: I look at Utah also as an example where they're
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  Speaker 4: in a landlocked state and yet they're finding ways to creatively,
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  Speaker 4: you know, foster an environment where players want to come.
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  Speaker 4: So this is essentially back to a square one proposition.
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  Speaker 2: Who comes in?
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  Speaker 4: That's very much unknown if I can get to this
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  Speaker 4: in a roundabout way, But this is something I think
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  Speaker 4: that we're going to find a little bit more out
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  Speaker 4: of in the next few days. What's going to I
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  Speaker 4: think dry the decision making here in the next a
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  Speaker 4: month or so.
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  Speaker 3: Mike, you say it's a rebuild. Who's leading is a
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  Speaker 3: guy like Ellie Tolvenan who's still twenty seven years old,
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  Speaker 3: but he's a free agent? Does he come back? Jerry
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  Speaker 3: McCann was vocal at the end of season, got hurt
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  Speaker 3: vocal with the younger players about how the Kraken folded
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  Speaker 3: down the stretch. His contract ends after next year, he's
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  Speaker 3: thirty years old. Who leaves? Who comes in? More so, though,
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  Speaker 3: who would they retain and who leaves?
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  Speaker 4: You think, well, I would first stop short of calling
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  Speaker 4: it a rebuild, because I would only go there if
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  Speaker 4: they're going to be basically showing out every UFA contract
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  Speaker 4: year and say we're just going to start all over here.
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  Speaker 4: If they're going to lean more toward the retool part
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  Speaker 4: of this, Greg, I think you bring a lot of
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  Speaker 4: the UFAs into question, because that's going to alleviate a
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  Speaker 4: lot of your cap space. And I think what got
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  Speaker 4: back to me is that Laine Landert basically said in
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  Speaker 4: his end of season media availability last year the personality
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  Speaker 4: of this, and he said, quote, we have a quiet
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  Speaker 4: locker room end quote. And I think he tried to
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  Speaker 4: I think maybe hadge a bit with how much personality
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  Speaker 4: he wanted to add. But I will go back and
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  Speaker 4: think of how many times that they came out flat
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  Speaker 4: after the Olympic break when the pressure gets cranked up,
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  Speaker 4: the energy has got to get cranked up in the
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  Speaker 4: crank and words just splat out of the gate and
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  Speaker 4: eventually it cost him two points that night. Brandon Monteor's
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  Speaker 4: one example for me. I think of the kind of
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  Speaker 4: guys that maybe they want to bring in. Well, I
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  Speaker 4: think understand the balance of you know, not getting too high,
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  Speaker 4: not getting too low. But if there was one player
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  Speaker 4: I remember approaching over and over this past season in
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  Speaker 4: the room and he injected energy, he injected life, that
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  Speaker 4: was Brandon Montour.
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  Speaker 2: So who goes out the door?
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  Speaker 4: I think as a matter of question, you know, I
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  Speaker 4: think if they're gonna be changing over the defensive cores
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  Speaker 4: on this, Jamie Alexiak's no obvious candidate where you got
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  Speaker 4: to sit you have to say goodbye to him. Jayden Schwartz,
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  Speaker 4: I'm curious with Dodger based on who they've gone coming in,
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  Speaker 4: you know, not on the younger side, but when you
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  Speaker 4: have maybe in your top six and the goal to
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  Speaker 4: add in your top six, you know, there's that chance
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  Speaker 4: to ask where does he fit in? I don't know,
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  Speaker 4: and I think his answer back at last week's media
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  Speaker 4: availability didn't really I think, give a vote of confidence
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  Speaker 4: that he's looking to come back. He says he loved
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  Speaker 4: the opportunity to but you know it was very much
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  Speaker 4: a hedging kind of answer. Then your contract here, guys,
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  Speaker 4: are a big question as well, because once that contract
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  Speaker 4: year begins to tick, did he begin to lose value
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  Speaker 4: with what you want to you know, acquire and being
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  Speaker 4: able to flip a certain player for something that would
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  Speaker 4: upgrade maybe your top six. So Jera mccam's going to
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  Speaker 4: be in that picture. Philip Grubauer is going to be
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  Speaker 4: in that picture, et cetera, et cetera. Bottom line, this
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  Speaker 4: is going to be a big summer a change, and
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  Speaker 4: I think ultimately it's going to come down to the
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  Speaker 4: internal conversations with number one, who wants to be back here?
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  Speaker 2: Number two?
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  Speaker 4: Are they accepting to be back in a certain role
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  Speaker 4: that they can play?
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  Speaker 3: But Lane Lambert is coming back ton Whywickie told me that,
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  Speaker 3: and I think that's been reiterated by a few people. Now,
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  Speaker 3: what is it about Lane Lambert that you see that
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  Speaker 3: works for this group or could get them to where
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  Speaker 3: they're trying to get or is it a matter if
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  Speaker 3: they didn't want to have a third coach in three
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  Speaker 3: years and they just needed some continuity behind the bench.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think it doesn't make sense, Greg if you
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  Speaker 4: want to, you know, go right back and start all
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  Speaker 4: over again by hiring a third head coach in three years.
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  Speaker 4: But on top of that, Lane Lambert was absolutely phenomenal
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  Speaker 4: with what he did this year with this team. And
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  Speaker 4: for you know, the exception of you know, Mason Marsman
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  Speaker 4: coming in, Ryan lynn Gren who lives in and out
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  Speaker 4: of the lineup over the last couple of weeks, Matt
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  Speaker 4: Murray who they brought it and really didn't play after November.
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  Speaker 4: This was largely an unchanged group all year. Going back
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  Speaker 4: to this last off season, when you bring in Lane Lambert,
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  Speaker 4: you brought a guy in who was looking to instill
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  Speaker 4: a change of attitude. Play with more of an edge, play,
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  Speaker 4: with more bite play, also with defensive structure, and the
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  Speaker 4: numbers proved that for the most part this season they
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  Speaker 4: did that. Goals against that roughly two point eight was
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  Speaker 4: better before. They just took a downturn for numerous reasons
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  Speaker 4: after the Olympic break and the structure that they played with.
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  Speaker 4: You're looking to dial it back from going for broken
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  Speaker 4: winning sixty five, five, four, seven, six and winning at
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  Speaker 4: a most sensible.
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  Speaker 2: Pace of say three to two to two one games.
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  Speaker 4: That defensive structure also was a better environment suited for
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  Speaker 4: their goaltending. Before the Olympic break, great they were fifth
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  Speaker 4: best in the NHL. Goaltending was at nine toh one.
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  Speaker 4: Philip grew Bauer was the third best goalie in the
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  Speaker 4: NHL in nine to one six. Afterward, you have certain
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  Speaker 4: breakdowns and then you have Groo Bower's numbers. Take a
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  Speaker 4: bit of a dial back and Joey the court fell
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  Speaker 4: beneath nine zero zero suboptimal, if I can use that
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  Speaker 4: phrase here. But I think with the kind of attitude
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  Speaker 4: he's brought in, I think it really dragged some, you know,
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  Speaker 4: some clusters of groups in this room into the fight.
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  Speaker 4: They found themselves more competitive, and they found themselves better
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  Speaker 4: also in back to back games, and that was a big,
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  Speaker 4: big thing they wanted to address before they made this
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  Speaker 4: move to higher lane. Lambert and I said that before.
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  Speaker 4: I'll say it again.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: When you have a coach who can play with defensive structure,
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  Speaker 4: and you know, one of my colleagues, you know, John Foresln,
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  Speaker 4: used the phrase dumb down the game. Maybe offensively, that's okay,
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  Speaker 4: because a push in position to win two to one game, three,
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  Speaker 4: two games. They did a lot of that, and they
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  Speaker 4: went last year from a goose sag for twelve in
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  Speaker 4: the back end of back to back games. Now they
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  Speaker 4: basically made, you know, nearly a twelve point improvement.
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  Speaker 2: They've been five to six into in back to back games.
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  Speaker 4: Those are hard games to win and it's like a
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  Speaker 4: bit to get the hang of it. But right around
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  Speaker 4: December they really began to kind of understand. I think,
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  Speaker 4: I think the gravity once they have to instill on
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  Speaker 4: a lot of teams defense the trust in their system,
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  Speaker 4: and then they began to rip off wins over and over.
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  Speaker 4: So I mean, beyond the shadow of a dal Greg
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  Speaker 4: this is the least of their concerns, and you know,
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  Speaker 4: I think the right move to give Lane Lambert a
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  Speaker 4: vote of confidence and with more of the tweaks that
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  Speaker 4: we're I think going to see for this offseason, potentially
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  Speaker 4: this is going to I think kind of feedback into
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  Speaker 4: the machine of trying to make this team even better
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  Speaker 4: and get them back into the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Mike ben and showing us on the Beacon plumbing Highland
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  Speaker 3: a day before Jason Bartol the Cracking GM is going
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  Speaker 3: to have a press conference. We'll care it live tomorrow
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  Speaker 3: on the show. It's supposed to start eleven o'clock at
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  Speaker 3: Northgate at the ice Plex, about the state of the
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  Speaker 3: Krack and who've missed the playoffs four of their five
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  Speaker 3: years have existence? You mentioned Joey to Cord, Philip Krubauer's
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  Speaker 3: struggles and goal later in the season. Do you think
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  Speaker 3: they're both coming back? And what about Matt Murray former
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  Speaker 3: Penguin and now what it's thirty into his thirties, what
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  Speaker 3: are they doing at goaltender. Do you think their status
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  Speaker 3: quota will run it back?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, good, good question, Greg.
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  Speaker 4: I think that's one of the big topics of conversation
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  Speaker 4: that is going to maybe I think drive this for
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  Speaker 4: tomorrow and deeper into the offseason. I mean, honestly, Joey
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  Speaker 4: dcor has got a longer term contract.
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  Speaker 2: I don't see him moving on.
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  Speaker 4: Gru Bauer is a big question mark for me, and
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  Speaker 4: I would hate to see him move on. But a
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: matter of fact is that he's got a one year
• 16:13
  Speaker 4: deal left on, you know, a long term contract that
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: he signed, and he's also getting up there in age.
• 16:20
  Speaker 4: So where are they going with him? I don't know,
• 16:23
  Speaker 4: but beyond the shadow of a doubt, he was their
• 16:25
  Speaker 4: best goalie from this past season. I would hate to
• 16:28
  Speaker 4: see him move on, But of course that's you know,
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: way above our pay grades in regards to that. Matt
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: Murray is a big question mark for me. They brought
• 16:35
  Speaker 4: him in for a couple of reasons. I think number one,
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: and in fact they had to use him maybe in
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: the back to back situation in case somebody broke down.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: But also number two, Jason Botterl sat out, you know
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: several months back even into the summer when they signed
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: Matt Murray and it was to drive competition. To Philip
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: grew Bauer's credit, he responded, I mean the numbers were
• 16:55
  Speaker 4: in the tank about fifteen months ago. For him, he
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: had to go down to Coachelle Valley. He had to
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: kind of hit the reset button a little bit. Working
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: with Colin Zulianello, who they brought in as a new
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: goalie coach this year, made a big difference. And the
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: structure with with what Lane Lambert put in was a
• 17:12
  Speaker 4: better environment for him and for Joey to court, and
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: it was the court who had a bit of a
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: bumpier ride this season.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: But Grubauer was the least of their concerns.
• 17:21
  Speaker 4: But I think if you look back at this, the
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: bigger picture is going to be how do they add
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: up front because they have the structure in place, they
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: have defensive pieces in place, and do they have to
• 17:30
  Speaker 4: get bigger and stronger. I certainly think so. And again
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: there were too many games I think that where they
• 17:34
  Speaker 4: were a bit more bully balled out of the game,
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: a little bit.
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Less and versus last season.
• 17:39
  Speaker 4: But without question, offensive firepower is the number one question
• 17:43
  Speaker 4: mark of this team because it's going to get much
• 17:44
  Speaker 4: more offensive support for who they've got in goal with
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: you know, Grubauer and the court. And we'll see about that.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Matt Murray as of right now, but he's an a
• 17:52
  Speaker 4: one year deal. Would he be surprised, would it be
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: surprised to see him move on? I don't think so,
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: but we'll find out here very very soon.
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: By in July one, Mike, you mentioned Anaheim given scared
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: of Edmonton leading three two in the third period, us
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: at Anaheim has a really good mix of young players
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: and old players and guys older players, experienced players that
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: can still play. Is that a blueprint? Do you look
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: at what teams in the playoffs? Do you see is like, oh,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: this is this is a reachable goal for the crack
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: and they could model themselves structure their rosters like these guys.
• 18:26
  Speaker 4: Absolutely, I think Anaheim is a blueprint. I mean I think,
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: I mean, really, Greg, Edmonton and Colorado are the gold
• 18:32
  Speaker 4: standard with how they built themselves into perennial contenders because
• 18:37
  Speaker 4: you know, of course, they got into the fortune of
• 18:40
  Speaker 4: getting the first overall pick and they got generational talent
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: in Conor McDavid of the Edmonton side, and Nathan McKennon
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: for Colorado, and I would put Maplin Celebrini in.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: There as well.
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: Two percent, Jose, they're out of the playoffs, drag, but
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: I mean, I think we all know in the hockey
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: world they're coming next year and they're going to be
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: a massive, massive problem.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: The difference between them and I would.
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: Say there and in the Toronto Maple Leafs and Toronto
• 19:05
  Speaker 4: got Offtin Matthews first. Overall about ten years ago is
• 19:09
  Speaker 4: how they built around these teams. They were able to
• 19:12
  Speaker 4: draft smart, and they added a little bit more as
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: far as that are in presence, and they hired the
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: right coach as well here for each of these situations.
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: So I go back and look at the Anaheim case,
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: where about four years ago they had to tear this
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: whole thing down.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: They had aging stars moving out.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: They were on the last days of Ryan Getz laugh
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Troy Terry good piece, but he needed more and they
• 19:34
  Speaker 4: found a way to get into third. Overall, got Leo Carlson,
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: Patford Beechton made a major swing and his team made
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: a major swing at the draft about a couple of
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: or about a couple drafts ago in Beckett, Seneca and
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: by many, many, many accounts. He was due to be
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: maybe twenty eighth, twenty ninth, maybe thirtieth, And they went
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: and grabbed him third over all back in twenty twenty four,
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: and what do you know, twenty year old now twenty
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: three goals and sixty points in eighty two games.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: In his rookie campaign.
• 20:10
  Speaker 4: Then they added somebody else at fifth overall name or
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: as beg your pardon, threw a trade in cuttergotiate and
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: they got him from Philadelphia Jackson Lacombe. Great pickup on
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: their back end. Defenseman take a bit longer to develop.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: He was, you know, second rounder back in twenty nineteen,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: but here he is all of a sudden now pushing
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: sixty points and double digits and goals. Olwen Zelweger former
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: Everest silver tip. They got him as well. He's going
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: to be very very good on their back end for
• 20:38
  Speaker 4: years to come. So as these kids begin small, you
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: think small, you think less about the wins and losses,
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: and more about how they're developing with key if time,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: that's big.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: So when they began to come into.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: Their own more, they went out got aggressive at a
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: Chris Kreider who played years upon years with major playoff runs.
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: For the New York Rangers.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: A thirty four was a great pick up for them
• 21:02
  Speaker 4: this season. Radco gutas on their back end Listen, you
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: can argue over and over about you know you be
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: on the edge.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: Yes, is a dirty every time.
• 21:13
  Speaker 4: No, but his leadership is tried and true, it's proven,
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: and A thirty five he was great for them. They
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: went and got Jacob Truba as well for the.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: New York Rangers. Alice Calorin as.
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: Well from Tampa Bay. So what they did is that
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: they insulated this roster. The rock stars of this group
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: of the young kids goa Cha Carlson, Seneca, et cetera.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: But they're insulating them with proven talent who can play
• 21:36
  Speaker 4: more in depth positions and have been through the fight
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: before in the playoffs. That's a great blueprint to do.
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: So as long, bottom line, you're drafting smart. You're finding
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: somebody who can be not just in your top six,
• 21:49
  Speaker 4: but be a top line guy. That's more and more
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: often where we are seeing teams really begin to separate
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: themselves here from the pack. So you know, as far
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: as last night, Greg I watched that haf of the game.
• 22:00
  Speaker 4: They gave Evanson a scare McDavid didn't have a single
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: point in that contest.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: Make of bad as you will.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: But they're going to be around for a long long
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: time for sure, and they've got talent.
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: Certainly it's going to be on the rise.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: Our Anaheim Ducks beat writer Mike Benton, join us. Thanks Mike.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: We'll be hearing from you tomorrow at the ice Plex
• 22:18
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• 22:20
  Speaker 3: And great to talk to you again, Mike, Thank.
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: You any time about Thank you, welcome back.
• 22:25
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• 22:27
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• 22:30
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  Speaker 3: smiling faces. Some people are saying, Chris, I don't know
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: about that, but there are and there's an opportunity to
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  Speaker 3: ask questions on the chat of the iHeart as well
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: on the YouTube page. But we asked Seahawks, what do
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: you want him to do? What do you want the
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: Seahawks to do with the first pick? Do you want
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: them to trade it? You think they will? What would
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: you so I can take? Who? If you have someone
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: in mind? Would you like to take? And there's some
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: Mariner comments on there as well.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: Never short of Mariner comments, you we should know better
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: in terms of talk Mariners.
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: You see what happens.
• 24:13
  Speaker 5: You read the one from Marcus earlier. We got another
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: one from Michael two five to three. We still have
• 24:21
  Speaker 5: kem akers. Question Mark totally forgot about Acres.
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Former lead running back of the Rams, was on the
• 24:28
  Speaker 3: practice squad at the end of last year and he
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: actually was activated for the Super Bowl. He and Vellas
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: Jones both were because of the injuries. Yes they do.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: They've resigned him on a one year.
• 24:38
  Speaker 5: Contract from Mason out of the three six. So I'm
• 24:42
  Speaker 5: not worried about the Mariners yet. After Memorial Day we
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: should have a decent idea on what the holes need
• 24:48
  Speaker 5: to be filled and if they need to shake things up.
• 24:51
  Speaker 5: Come All Star breaks, when we'll know what type of
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: season it'll be and what they should be doing at
• 24:56
  Speaker 5: the trade deadline. After deadline is when it's make or
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: break for this team.
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd say that's probably. And we've seen that Jerry
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Depode and friends have gotten guys at the debt. They've
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: been very active. You cannot criticize them for not trying
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: to make moves in the middle of the season and
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Randy Rose Arena and Luis Castillo and a.
• 25:16
  Speaker 2: Lot of others.
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: So they they tried. They do try to augment the team,
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: and they're pretty aggressive the trade deadline. So that's that's
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: pretty good. This is interesting from the two five to three.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: Rumor has it that the Rams. That's always good, but
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: rumor has it that the Rams may try to trade
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: to thirty or thirty one to get Ty Simpson, the
• 25:34
  Speaker 3: quarterback from Alabama. Of course Matthew Stafford with the back
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: issue and the fact he's in his mid thirties and
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: won't play forever. That's interesting. There is another one on here.
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: I don't have it in front of me. I think
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: it was from the two six who said, no way,
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: they're trading within the division. And we asked when we
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: talked about the Cardinals trading back two picks with the
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Cardinals to in case the Cardinals wanted to jump up
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: to get Simpson at the end A round one. We
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: asked John Snyder about the yesterday and he said, we ah,
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: I don't care. We'll trade within the division. We have
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: great relationships with all the teams in the division. We've
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: traded within the division before and they have. And Brady
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Henderson of ESPN dot Com ask him, would you trade
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: within the division for if that team was interested in
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: the quarterback? And he said, yeah, I would. I know
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: what you're trying to do there. He laughed, knowing that
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: he was talking about the Cardinals. But that is probably
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: the scenario the team, the most likely scenario, the cleanest scenario,
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: team would try to trade into the first ground because
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: of the reasons we spoke about earlier. Teams like to
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: get quarterbacks in the first round, so they had the
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: fifth year option at their disposal. If that quarterback happens
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: to hit over the next three four years, you could
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: get him and keep him under contract for a fifth
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: year and one year on the fifth year option. And
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: that's why teams trade back in the first round to
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: do that. And John Schneider said, yeah, we'll do that
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: within the division. He said that used to be taboo
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: and frowned upon, and not anymore. And he doesn't it
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: should matter.
• 27:02
  Speaker 5: From the four to two five, My ideal scenario, Seahawks
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: trade down to thirty four, then trade to thirty nine,
• 27:08
  Speaker 5: they acquire picks sixty five and seventy from the Cardinals.
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: In Browns Shanxi had picked thirty nine and sixty four
• 27:13
  Speaker 5: and the second round and then picked sixty five to
• 27:15
  Speaker 5: seventy ninety eight in rown three. Also, I'm a little
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: bit concerned about the Mariners, and I can point out
• 27:21
  Speaker 5: what's wrong, what's working, we all see that, but there's
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: just a feeling. I got the vibe fills off with
• 27:26
  Speaker 5: this team.
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: Good point four to five. I've got him trading thirty
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: nine with the Browns. But if they and Schneider has
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: done this, he did it the year after the Seahawks
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: won the Super Bowl, the last time they won the
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl twenty thirteen season. Then twenty fourteen draft, he
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: did exactly what four two five is talking about. He
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: traded back with Minnesota. Minnesota drafted Teddy Bridgewater at thirty two.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Then Schneider took the picks he got from Minnesota and
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: traded back again and got more picks. Now, all those
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: picks turned out to not really pan out. For my cash.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: As marsh was played three season with the Seahawks. He
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: was one of those picks in the fourth round from
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: that Hall of picks by trading back twice. Any others,
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: Caro Small, the fullback who didn't pan out, Garrett Scott
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: was a tackle who never played because of a hard issue.
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: But that is the precedent, the last, the only other
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: time this franchise has been in this situation. He did
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: exactly what fourty five just said, traded back twice, got
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: four picks out of it.
• 28:24
  Speaker 5: From the two five to three Mariners will still win
• 28:26
  Speaker 5: the division by at least ten games, But man, are
• 28:29
  Speaker 5: they frustrating to watch?
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: That may be true? Maybe right Well, like you said,
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: they only takes one big, decent winning streak and with
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: the pitching, absolutely yeah.
• 28:41
  Speaker 5: It's just I guess when are they going to do that?
• 28:44
  Speaker 5: Is it going to be this month?
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: May?
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: So we'll see from our guy Keith two five to three.
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: These are Mariners fans. The flag starts red and if
• 28:54
  Speaker 5: they play well, it may shift to yellow. I hope
• 28:59
  Speaker 5: you're wrong there. I hope they're not red flags right now,
• 29:01
  Speaker 5: But then I know, I think about it. A Mariner
• 29:02
  Speaker 5: fans are really tough, and can you blame them never
• 29:06
  Speaker 5: being into a World Series. That's a that's tough to do.
• 29:09
  Speaker 3: Thanks for the kind note, Keith. I see it won't,
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: but I appreciate that. The one point I want to
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: make about the Seahawks are trading back twice and perhaps
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: getting four extra picks in this draft. John Schneider has
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: gone on record a couple times said it again yesterday,
• 29:21
  Speaker 3: this is not a strong draft. He's seen it as
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: a weak draft. It's why he's traded multiple times to
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: get rid of his picks. The reason why he has
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: four picks in this draft isn't that he just woke
• 29:30
  Speaker 3: up in March and said, oh my gosh, when they
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: have four picks. He traded two third day picks to
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: get Rashichi. November, he traded a pick to get Nick Harrison,
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: then got Nick Harris back from Cleveland, gave him back.
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: He's traded multiple times, multiple players to lose these picks,
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: and that's why he only has four because years ago
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: they saw this draft as being weak. They see next
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: draft as being strong, and they have twelve picks.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Wailah.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: They kind of have them know what they're doing. They
• 29:58
  Speaker 3: have a few picks when they don't think it's a
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: good draft. They've a lot of picks with it next
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: year when they think it's good.
• 30:03
  Speaker 5: Setting themselves up the right way from the two OL six. Hey, Greg,
• 30:07
  Speaker 5: the Seahawks have about thirty million in effective cap space.
• 30:12
  Speaker 5: What are they saving it for? Is there some trade
• 30:14
  Speaker 5: down the line? What's going on here?
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: Yeah, good question. They do have a decent amount of
• 30:21
  Speaker 3: caps caps, especially for them. It's actually the what is it,
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: third six, it's the eighth most cap space in the
• 30:27
  Speaker 3: league at thirty two points seven nine to two million dollars.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: Some of it not a lot, but some of it's
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: going to Devin Witherspoon. He's gonna get that deal in July.
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: He's going to get an extension. It's going to be
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: worth thirty million on average per year. Thirty one million
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: is right now the top cornerback, and that's Trent McDuffie.
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: After the trade from the Chiefs to the Rams, you're
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: looking at least thirty thirty one million a year for Witherspoon.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Not all of it, of course, will be due in
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: cap in the first year this year, but that's some
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: of it. Just like Jackson Smith and Jigba's extension took
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: up some of it. I mentioned the Naji Harra a
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: free agent visit. He wouldn't cost a lot of money.
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: He'd be barely above veteran minimum of one point one
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: million coming off in an achilles tear. But that's another option.
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Here's something that we don't always talk about, Chris John
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Schneider is setting aside money to make a trade in
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: October before the deadline. When you make trades for guys
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: like Leonard Williams Rashid Shaheed, you have to take on
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: his money for the rest of that season, So you
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: have to have the cap space to absorb that. And
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: when it's a good player, a great player in the
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: case of Leonard Williams, you have to have the cap
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: space available to do that without cutting guys and disrupting
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: your team. You keep that aside. Now the Snyder has
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: the luxury of being able to keep that money set
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: aside because he has a Super Bowl team that's coming back.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: He's got ten of eleven starters on offense kind of
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: Walker being the one loan departure, and he's got all
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: eleven starters on defense if you count the fact that
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Josh Job was in fact the starter over Riek Wollan.
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: Now Wollen end up playing seventy five percent of the
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: snaps in a three man rotation two corner spots. But
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: they have by definition, all eleven starters back on the
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: top ranked defense in the league last year, and ten
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: of eleven starters on offense. So he can set aside
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: money for October knowing he's got a Super Bowl champion roster,
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: and that's what he's doing. So when you see that
• 32:17
  Speaker 3: he's got thirty plus men, yes he does, but he's
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: gonna pay Witherspoon. He's gonna sign a running back most likely,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: he's probably gonna sign a veteran defensive tackle or some
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: depth on the defensive line, and he's setting aside money
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: to make a splash move. When he wants to adjust
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: his team, he calls that part of his roster building.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: He builds in, hey, here's where our season's headed. Here's
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: where our holes were that we didn't think we had,
• 32:39
  Speaker 3: but now we do. And in October, we're not just
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: going to sit back and say, well, let's see how
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: this plays out. We're gonna go fill those holes. And
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: that's what he did with Shaheed. That's what he did
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: with Leonard Williams. He did it with Carlos Dunlap a
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: few years ago with the Bengals. He brought in an
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: edge rusher. That's how he plays. And so that's where
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: some of this money's going to go. I stumped you.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: What else do we have.
• 33:06
  Speaker 5: Let's see Dan Wilson is the problem from Joel. Let's
• 33:09
  Speaker 5: try to play some small ball. This is getting ridiculous.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's small ball. The analytics guys they don't do
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: small ball. They just don't want to sacrifice outs. They
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: just don't. The guys with the iPads. A lot of
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: what Dan Wilson does is the guys with the iPads
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: tell them to do it. Those I've spoken to inside
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: the Mariners they are a very analytic driven team. The
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: whole right righty, righty, lefty, lefty and opposite pinch hitting
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: when there's a left handed coming out of the bullpen
• 33:37
  Speaker 3: and all of it. Take out the guy who's just
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: smoking the ball the whole game because he's not the
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: right handed or left handed batter you need opposite the pitcher.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: That's where they're wedded to and it drives fans. No,
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, there is an element of the game
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: that I think you should just watch. What are your
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: eyes and your gut telling you? They don't do eyes
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: and gut they do analytics. Analytics hate stolen bases and bunting.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: They consider it not worth the risk risk reward calculation.
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: Analytics says, don't do it. You're giving away outs, so
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: they don't. I think it should be just a set
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: rule that in the extra ending game runouts second, nobody out.
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: It's a bunt because you can't count on your guys
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: to hit the ball on the right side of the
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: infield to move the runner of the third. That's a
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: fundamental baseball move. Runout second and fewer than two outs,
• 34:24
  Speaker 3: that ball should be hit to the right side so
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: the runner can get the third. Maybe ten percent of
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: the time we see the Mariners do that. I think
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: this team, the Mariners, should have a hard and fast
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: rule bunt to lead off an extra ding when you
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: have a runnout second, nobody out to get that guy
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: to third. But then you know what will happen buying
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: large the next guy up with a runner third and
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: one out, it's going to try to yank the ball
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: to mercer island. He's going to strike out and there's
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: two outs and your bunt did no good When all
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: you need is to put the ball in play. They're
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: trying to yank at the north gate and Mercer Island
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: and boom two outs, runner third, three outs, ending over.
• 35:00
  Speaker 3: That's the problem. It's what you if you do bunt
• 35:03
  Speaker 3: small ball at what's the next guy do When all
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: you have to do is put the ball and play
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: with a runner at second and a runner at third
• 35:09
  Speaker 3: and one out, you get a strikeout. The one absolute
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: one thing you can't do infield is probably playing in.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: All you do is put the ball in play, make
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: contact play. Unless the ball is hit right at an infield,
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: you're gonna get the run. They strike out. It just
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: kills me to time and again I watch it. Oh
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: my gosh, I just put the ball in play here.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Of course, you want to lift into the outfield and
• 35:29
  Speaker 3: get the run in on the sacrifice fly as optimally,
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: but the pitchers know that sort they're pitching low. But yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: so small ball works to the scent of what your
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: hitters do after you small ball and the Mariners hitters
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: strike out by LARTs. I'm just broadbushing, but so I
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: ranted there. I was a little bit of a soapbox. Sorry,
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: I think they needed it. Analytics suck in some situations.
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: They do. Now I'm not I'm not that old to
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: get off my lawn and say, analytics there's no place
• 35:58
  Speaker 3: in the game. It's in football, it's in Basketball's everywhere.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: The Seahawks are heavily into it as well. But at times, yeah,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: can we just put the iPad down for a minute
• 36:07
  Speaker 3: and watch the game and say, oh, let's do this.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: I don't care what the iPads and the analytics say
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: in this situation. I'm a manager who's been in baseball
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: for forty years. I think this should happen to me.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: That's part of the job description while you're getting paid.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: But I'm behind a radio mic and not the dugout.
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: Have you seen the mayor. I have seen the mayor.
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: He's in cougar red. He's up next. He's gonna talk
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: about his show from twelve until three. Maybe we'll talk
• 36:30
  Speaker 3: a little crack and maybe we talk to Seahawks with him.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: He's up next on ninety three point three k JRFM.
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Welcome back Greg Bell Show. A Christopher Kid rolling on
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: here for the second day. It's a new full time,
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: gig if you missed it, we are back like it's
• 36:53
  Speaker 3: twenty twenty four, and like it's been for what twenty years? Now?
• 36:56
  Speaker 6: Ian Farness's back almost twenty? Can I get to twenty?
• 37:01
  Speaker 6: Can I get there?
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Where's would starting?
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: It's September? It's September.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: That's twenty.
• 37:08
  Speaker 6: Now what do we get for twenty years at KJR?
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: What did you get out at the Seahawks yesterday? And
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: where do you think they're going?
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: I mean, I, first of all, you and I talked
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: about this. I brought this up on our show yesterday.
• 37:17
  Speaker 6: I loved Schneider coming out and saying, you know, we're
• 37:21
  Speaker 6: open for business. And as you said, that's exactly what
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: he was doing, telling the rest of the league publicly,
• 37:24
  Speaker 6: I'm open for business. I think it's an interesting dynamic
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: because like that Isn't that's interesting that a GM, a
• 37:34
  Speaker 6: sitting GM, especially if his stature is so open about it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: Yes, like like so open.
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: That's a functionould probably him being in the job seventeen
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: years of winning two Super.
• 37:44
  Speaker 6: Bowl and like whatever, man, Yeah, we're open for And
• 37:47
  Speaker 6: I think what he also said, listen, we sometimes I
• 37:50
  Speaker 6: think operate in sports media in this weird vacuum that
• 37:54
  Speaker 6: that people are not as smart as others. Yeah, the
• 38:00
  Speaker 6: other thirty one gms, no exactly. If we all know
• 38:03
  Speaker 6: the history of John Schneider in what he's done in
• 38:06
  Speaker 6: the drafts, I kind of.
• 38:07
  Speaker 2: Believe that deity as well.
• 38:09
  Speaker 6: And there are some like Dallas famously and others that
• 38:12
  Speaker 6: do always want to move up, right. They think that
• 38:15
  Speaker 6: their scouting is so elite that they want to move
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: up and grab a guy. And Schneider thinks his scouting's
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: elite in a different way that he wants to move
• 38:21
  Speaker 6: down and accumulate picks. But yeah, I think that was
• 38:24
  Speaker 6: a big thing. I thought the other stuff obviously with
• 38:26
  Speaker 6: Mike McDonald talking about the guys that are there that
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: don't need to be there, and he tailored that whole
• 38:31
  Speaker 6: off season program around some veterans not having to be back,
• 38:34
  Speaker 6: and those guys all showed up. And it goes back
• 38:36
  Speaker 6: to a year ago. Greg, we talked about this U
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: and I bunch last year when we went out there
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: for the first on field OTAs that we were allowed
• 38:45
  Speaker 6: to see as media members and doing a show out there,
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: and you're out there covering it and now all be
• 38:50
  Speaker 6: out there together again, which is great, we're out there.
• 38:53
  Speaker 6: I think the thing you and I both talked about that, like,
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: why is Jaren Reid?
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Right? Jaren Reid was there yesterday?
• 38:59
  Speaker 6: He was yesterday. And I've said this before. I have
• 39:01
  Speaker 6: him on my show three or four times a year,
• 39:03
  Speaker 6: and people say, why do you like talking to Jeron
• 39:05
  Speaker 6: Reda is because he is the alpha dog. He is
• 39:09
  Speaker 6: the he is the connection to the past, the conduit
• 39:12
  Speaker 6: to today, and he is in a lot of different
• 39:16
  Speaker 6: ways of reason. They're out where they are. And he
• 39:18
  Speaker 6: talked about it last year because I asked him, point Blake,
• 39:20
  Speaker 6: we've played the sound during the super Bowl week I
• 39:21
  Speaker 6: think it was last May.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: I said, dude, why are you here?
• 39:25
  Speaker 6: And He's like, because this is this is how it works,
• 39:27
  Speaker 6: this is this is how I was taught, this is
• 39:29
  Speaker 6: how this is what they told me. And when you
• 39:32
  Speaker 6: think about when did it not stop working for the
• 39:34
  Speaker 6: previous regime or the previous group of guys, it's when
• 39:39
  Speaker 6: Deuce started holding out, Earl's holding out, Cam's holding out,
• 39:43
  Speaker 6: Marshaan's holding out.
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: All that stuff started happening.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Right, It's a culture thing.
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: It's a culture thing. And so I thought that was say,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: that's why they won the Super Bowl.
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, they said that, not the x's and o's not. No,
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: they won the super Bowl because of their culture, and
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: it's part of why they don't want the hard Knocks
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: cameras coming in.
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: I know, I know. There's what do you think of that?
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: I think the Seahawks don't like it?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: What do you say it just as a medium member?
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: Oh?
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: I hate it?
• 40:07
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think it makes it makes it pain in
• 40:09
  Speaker 6: the ass. There's I'm split with it though for two reasons.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: I love it for the fan, but I hate it
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: for the journal.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think I'm curious what it's going to look like.
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: And and when you're like, I haven't seen Chris, have
• 40:20
  Speaker 6: you seen the Blazer documentary yet?
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: The Jail Blazer?
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: I sure did?
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: Okay, good, just get obviously good or bad? Thumbs up,
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: thumbs down? It was good, Okay, I'm really I got
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: lundon today. I don't know if he's seen it yet
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: because he covered the first bunch of years of that. Yeah,
• 40:35
  Speaker 6: I cover the last two of the true Jail Blazers.
• 40:39
  Speaker 6: I was gonna say, I go back to JR. Ryder
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: and the whole. Yeah, yeah, so I covered the last two.
• 40:42
  Speaker 6: I was in Portland doing sports radio. But we were
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: at every game. We covered every game, We did a
• 40:45
  Speaker 6: pre and post game for the we did it. We
• 40:47
  Speaker 6: were in the locker room. Unlike Colin Coward, we were
• 40:49
  Speaker 6: actually in the locker room every day. And so I'm
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: curious what that looks like. Fast forward. Now, I'm curious
• 40:56
  Speaker 6: what guys like you and others that cover the Seahawks
• 40:59
  Speaker 6: every day, what it what it appears, how it's gonna
• 41:01
  Speaker 6: how it's gonna be portrayed. Is it gonna be because
• 41:03
  Speaker 6: that'll be a thing when they when those first first
• 41:05
  Speaker 6: episode comes on, You and and Bob and Mike and
• 41:09
  Speaker 6: everybody else. Corbyn me to a certain extent, and others like, yeah,
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: you know, it could be interesting to see how it's portrayed.
• 41:16
  Speaker 6: Because video, let me tell you this, video heading is
• 41:18
  Speaker 6: a magical thing.
• 41:20
  Speaker 3: They will I've talked to people around the league that
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: have had hard knocks the last a couple of your
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: Giants and others Steelers. They said that the league has
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: now given in NFL films, has given more leeway to
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: the teams and what actually airs, not what actually is shot,
• 41:34
  Speaker 3: because they go in it everywhere, but actually what it
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: gets aired, there's a little more leeway to the team
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: than they're interesting interesting. And but to your point, there
• 41:44
  Speaker 3: are gonna be cameras in places we can't.
• 41:45
  Speaker 6: See, Yeah, exact meeting room. Yeah, so I'm curious how
• 41:49
  Speaker 6: it looks. I'm curious how it looks. I think it'll be.
• 41:51
  Speaker 6: I think I'm actually excited to see the finished product.
• 41:55
  Speaker 6: Probably in some ways it makes all of our jobs
• 41:57
  Speaker 6: harder out there, more challenging. But that's fine. That's one
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: year and a way we go. But yeah, I'm curious.
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'll say this, it can. I think hard
• 42:06
  Speaker 6: knocks can make you or break. You made a break
• 42:09
  Speaker 6: that made or break broke the Giants for and then
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: look what happened with I mean, Dan Campbell became a star,
• 42:17
  Speaker 6: most likable coach in America. I mean he I think
• 42:19
  Speaker 6: it transformed the Detroit franchise in a lot of ways, right,
• 42:22
  Speaker 6: I mean, so it can help you too, you know,
• 42:24
  Speaker 6: a tracting free agents and hey this is great, blah
• 42:26
  Speaker 6: blah blah. You know there's gonna be some guys will
• 42:28
  Speaker 6: be stars, for sure.
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: Devin Witherspoon is going to.
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: Be if he's if he's Devin Witherspoon on the field,
• 42:34
  Speaker 6: not at the podium because Devin Witherson at the podium
• 42:37
  Speaker 6: is boring. Devin Witherspoon when we're watching practice, he's the.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: Most Richard Sherman player they've had since Richard Sherman.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: And maybe more so, maybe more so. Yeah, so that'll
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: be fun.
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: So what do you got today?
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: We're jamming all the place we got we got going
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: on to John Harlow watching to state it's new athletic
• 42:52
  Speaker 6: director is going to join us A twelve thirty ten.
• 42:54
  Speaker 6: Not Jack Carlow, Not Jack Carlow, John Harlow with two
• 42:56
  Speaker 6: a's we'll talk to you about the changing landscape Netflix.
• 43:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah she did.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: I'm all in not as.
• 43:03
  Speaker 6: Young as I look, No, Joe, she and we could
• 43:06
  Speaker 6: to talk about baseball at one twenty today and then
• 43:08
  Speaker 6: lund at two o'clock and all kinds of fun stuff.
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: It's a three hour show.
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: I'm exhausted. Let's go.
• 43:13
  Speaker 6: I hear you, I got it, bet your chick you
• 43:17
  Speaker 6: guy comes in whatever.
• 43:19
  Speaker 3: Thanks, Yeah, that's fine.
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: Whatever.
• 43:22
  Speaker 3: Up next is from twelve until three. I'll have you
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: know up next to the mayor made three hours