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S3E29: November Pain · Black Ibis Social Club

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_01: Well, hello, Night City, you bunch of gonks and chooms.
• 0:04
  SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the Black Ibis Social Club.
• 0:07
  SPEAKER_01: And this is one of those days where something has happened, right?
• 0:11
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing ever happened, but something has happened, right, Fisto?
• 0:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, absolutely.
• 0:17
  SPEAKER_00: Things have occurred.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_01: Alright, so let's get on to it because, you know, we don't have forever.
• 0:28
  SPEAKER_01: Arasaka is going to shut down our airwaves pretty soon.
• 0:31
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, we need to make it fast.
• 0:35
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, when I initially set up the episode,
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_01: we were going to talk about Edge Runner Season 2, alright? Yeah.
• 0:43
  SPEAKER_01: And that was the plan.
• 0:44
  SPEAKER_01: That was the plan, alright?
• 0:45
  SPEAKER_01: That was the plan.
• 0:47
  SPEAKER_01: But then, you know, an election happened and it was actually somewhat interesting.
• 0:52
  SPEAKER_01: And I realized...
• 0:54
  SPEAKER_01: You know, that's kind of interesting, right? It's kind of interesting.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_01: We got to talk about that. Sure, why not? Why not?
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_01: What I really realized is as I was thinking about the election,
• 1:04
  SPEAKER_01: I really thought about our spiritual mentor,
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_01: the one philosophy that Fisto and I fully agree on, which is Ernst Jünger, right?
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yes. And I realized that Ernst Jünger, today's election,
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: and Edge Runner season two are actually very much well connected.
• 1:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to do a quick spoiler.
• 1:25
  SPEAKER_01: I think Edge Runner season two is the perfect example that illustrates
• 1:31
  SPEAKER_01: the philosophy, the late philosophy of Ernst Jünger illustrated in Umiswell,
• 1:38
  SPEAKER_01: specifically the idea of the Anarch.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_01: And why am I thinking about the Anarch?
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_01: Well, because I voted for chaos, right?
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_01: I voted for chaos.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_01: If you guys know me, I think that democracy and voting is just all fake and gay.
• 1:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I know that.
• 2:03
  SPEAKER_01: There's not one thing.
• 2:04
  SPEAKER_01: You can accuse me of being a total gonk.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: You can accuse me of being an asshole, a cyber psycho retard.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: You can do all that thing, right?
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_01: But you can never, never, never, never accuse me.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: Is being a bullshitter, going back on the things I'd said without admitting it.
• 2:21
  SPEAKER_01: I will always admit when I'm wrong about things, which is never.
• 2:25
  SPEAKER_01: And changing my philosophy on things,
• 2:29
  SPEAKER_01: you know, or basically like playing both sides.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_01: I never did that, right?
• 2:34
  SPEAKER_01: And one of the things I've always said is that I think the whole system,
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_01: the whole mess is stupid.
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: I am a realist, okay?
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: I live in the real world.
• 2:46
  SPEAKER_01: In the last few months, I've become more and more and more disillusioned
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: with the idea of ideologies.
• 2:53
  SPEAKER_01: And by disillusioned, I don't mean I've never like, I've like fallen away from an ideology.
• 2:59
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, I've just, I've gotten bored with it, right?
• 3:01
  SPEAKER_01: I've gotten bored with the conversation.
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  SPEAKER_01: There was recently
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  SPEAKER_01: There was recently a conversation with me on Substack where people were asking me,
• 3:15
  SPEAKER_01: What is your politics?
• 3:17
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have any because it's all dumb.
• 3:20
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like ideology is silly and a lot of it is a waste of time.
• 3:24
  SPEAKER_01: My politics, my philosophy is I care about myself, my family, and my friends.
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  SPEAKER_01: I care about the concrete.
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  SPEAKER_01: Does it make my life better?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yes or no? That's how I vote.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's how I've always voted and that's what I believe.
• 3:39
  SPEAKER_01: I will support you if you make my life better.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_01: I will not support you if you make my life worse, plain and simple.
• 3:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's how I look at things, okay?
• 3:49
  SPEAKER_01: And that's how you all should look at things, all right?
• 3:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like, does this make my life worse?
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: Because I think that one of the fake and gay things of modern political discourse
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: and stuff is that it's all fake.
• 4:05
  SPEAKER_01: And what I mean it's fake is we sit there and we have these Long,
• 4:10
  SPEAKER_01: elaborate conversations on Substack and X and stuff about like, oh, well,
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a distributist or, you know, I'm not dogging on, you know, anybody, right?
• 4:21
  SPEAKER_01: I'm using that as an example, right?
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_01: Or, you know, because some of these guys are my friends, right?
• 4:26
  SPEAKER_01: Or I believe in monarchy, you know?
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_01: Well, no, no, you don't, okay?
• 4:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's not fucking real, all right?
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's not going to be a monarchy, all right?
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  SPEAKER_01: You know why there's never going to be a monarchy, my dude?
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  SPEAKER_01: Okay, because Monarchy requires somebody to be the Monarch and nobody
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  SPEAKER_01: on this goddamn planet is worth being a Monarch, is worth following, all right?
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_01: There's a reason Monarchy didn't work because by the end of the fall
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  SPEAKER_01: of most Monarchies, they're all a bunch of inbred retards, okay?
• 4:53
  SPEAKER_01: Who are you going to make a monarch of the United States, my dude?
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  SPEAKER_01: If George Washington wasn't good enough to be the monarch,
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  SPEAKER_01: nobody living today is worth being a monarch, okay?
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_01: So it's cute. It's fun.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's fun to talk about like, well, you You know, I'm a third positionist, you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: what do you call it? Fourth positionist ideology, blah, blah, blah.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's great and all, but it's ultimately just masturbation.
• 5:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's all just masturbation, right?
• 5:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, yes.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it's not real.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_01: It's the same reason.
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  SPEAKER_00: Jizz fountain politics.
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  SPEAKER_01: It is.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's absolutely found in politics.
• 5:29
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 5:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's, you know, one of the early rules we made on black ibis, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Back when it was called the tradition, you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: one of the early rules was we're not going to talk about 1930 to 1945 or whatever,
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  SPEAKER_01: right? Yes. Which, and the reason I made that rule...
• 5:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason I made that rule is because I don't want to talk about Nazism
• 5:50
  SPEAKER_01: and fascism and all that stuff because it's stupid, right?
• 5:54
  SPEAKER_01: On the left side of things, it's just an empty accusation.
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  SPEAKER_01: And on the right, it's just a masturbatory fantasy for some people on the far,
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  SPEAKER_01: far idiotic right, okay?
• 6:09
  SPEAKER_01: 1920s and 30s Italy and Germany, okay?
• 6:12
  SPEAKER_01: It's not going to happen in Kentucky, my dudes, all right?
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  SPEAKER_01: It's silly.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's dumb, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Just like the far-left
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  SPEAKER_01: guys calling themselves communists and LARPing
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  SPEAKER_01: as like Stalinists and then the right kind of chuds calling those, oh,
• 6:33
  SPEAKER_01: the commies are taking over.
• 6:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's a LARP, guys, okay?
• 6:36
  SPEAKER_01: They're not taking over.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: There's no communist taking over.
• 6:39
  SPEAKER_01: They might LARP as communist ideas,
• 6:41
  SPEAKER_01: but ultimately they're part of the same party as the other side,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is a neoliberal Epstein class money pit.
• 6:51
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a realist when it comes to this kind of stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: I think that it's interesting to know historical stuff,
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  SPEAKER_01: but we're not resurrecting
• 7:00
  SPEAKER_01: the Holy Roman Empire or Constantinople or anything like that.
• 7:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not going to happen.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_01: We are in the post-liberal.
• 7:11
  SPEAKER_01: All right. We're entering in the cyberpunk world. Okay.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like we can have some neo feudalist like corporate monarchies.
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  SPEAKER_01: That's the only realistic thing we can ever expect or to devolve
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_01: into like strong We're not going
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  SPEAKER_01: to resurrect the 20th century ideological empires
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  SPEAKER_01: of the Soviet Union or the National Socials.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not going to happen.
• 7:40
  SPEAKER_01: We're not doing any of that stuff. Shut up. It's dumb.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's cute and everything on Substack.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's fun.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's intellectually stimulating and fun sometimes.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just not going to happen in the United States.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not going to happen. It's just done.
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  SPEAKER_01: Neither of those things are going to happen.
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  SPEAKER_01: Now, hey, I might be wrong and I will accept that,
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  SPEAKER_01: but I'm ultimately a pragmatist and I'm a realist.
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  SPEAKER_01: Part of being that is I realized that both sides of the things are Are the same,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know, they're both my enemies.
• 8:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I will, I will explain that to you in a second why they're both my enemies.
• 8:21
  SPEAKER_01: And why I think that an ideal situation is to be an agent of chaos, right?
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  SPEAKER_01: If I had a philosophy, if I had a way of going through life, all right,
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  SPEAKER_01: is I'm a Ernst Jünger Anarch.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: And what is an Ernst Jünger Anarch?
• 8:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's from his, from his novel, Umiswil.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's basically the idea, and I'll
• 8:47
  SPEAKER_01: kind of summarize that for you guys because I took some notes real fast.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_00: Here we go.
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  SPEAKER_01: Basically, the Anarch is basically a neutral party.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right?
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  SPEAKER_01: Basically a neutral party,
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  SPEAKER_01: Where his anarchist outlined in the forest passage was
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  SPEAKER_01: an anarchist, somebody that wanted to change the world, you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: through violence or through direct rebellion.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_01: The anarchist neutral. Okay.
• 9:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like the anarchist wants to change society, but the anarch just wants to survive it.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: The anarch is somebody that realizes the reality of the situation
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  SPEAKER_01: and camouflages himself, lives the life of the artist.
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  SPEAKER_01: The ideal of the anarch is to be a sovereign of your own self.
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  SPEAKER_01: Conscience and that's it, right?
• 9:49
  SPEAKER_01: Not to die for an ideology because the key to understanding like being an anarch,
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_01: right, is that whatever ideology you replace,
• 10:04
  SPEAKER_01: it's going to be replaced by an even faker and gayer ideology, all right?
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: When you replace the Republicans with the Democrats, it's the same shit.
• 10:13
  SPEAKER_01: You replace them with the Democrats again, it's the same shit.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_01: You replace communism in Eastern Europe with the EU, and it's the same shit.
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  SPEAKER_01: Different color flags, different color.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's all the same stuff because people are ultimately corrupt and stupid assholes.
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  SPEAKER_01: And the only true sovereignty you can obtain is Spiritual and personal.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_01: So in order to do that, you just kind of have to smile and nod and live.
• 10:44
  SPEAKER_01: So, Alex, you don't believe in voting and blah, blah.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, whatever.
• 10:48
  SPEAKER_01: But it's still fun.
• 10:50
  SPEAKER_01: In a way, it's fun in a chaotic way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Because it's fun to catalog,
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: to be a non- Non-involved observer of the situation, right?
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why we talk about politics.
• 11:04
  SPEAKER_01: Because ultimately, while political,
• 11:07
  SPEAKER_01: direct political action like voting and stuff is somewhat of a farce, right?
• 11:13
  SPEAKER_01: And we know that. Everybody deep down knows that, right?
• 11:18
  SPEAKER_01: Because if voting really mattered, they wouldn't let you do it, right?
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't that what they say, right?
• 11:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, supposedly, supposedly.
• 11:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: The reality of the situation is that you can still get an understanding
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: of people's motivations by observing, right?
• 11:35
  SPEAKER_01: In Umaswil, the main character of Umaswil, he's a historian, right?
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: He's a historian by day, a bartender by night, and he observes and he documents, right?
• 11:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: That's what makes it interesting, right?
• 11:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so that's why I've always commented on politics and stuff.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_01: And that's why I've, you know, I think we should get credits.
• 11:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think we get enough credit, Christo,
• 11:59
  SPEAKER_01: because I feel like over the last two years, if we go back through all our episodes,
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: we've managed to call every political movement perfectly on target.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: There's one big prediction I made that I have a feeling is going to come true,
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: and I hope it doesn't, which is our next president being Gavin Newsom.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: But I called the blue wave. Remember that? I said it back then. You know what?
• 12:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's coming.
• 12:27
  SPEAKER_00: I remember 4th of July was such a bummer, and that's just – there it is.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: I think that's when I called it.
• 12:36
  SPEAKER_01: I knew for a fact that it was going to be a blue wave when I'm walking
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: through the most military town in South Carolina that I live in.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't see one American flag up in the most military town in South Carolina.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: All right. Like in the most right wing.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_01: And wow, shockingly, South Carolina went blue, you know,
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: shocking to nobody that is not done because we saw it coming.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: I really wanted to talk about why, all right, because it's all about this, like,
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_01: there's this Not so much to why,
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: because I think John Carter explained it really well in his piece,
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: and almost everybody understands why.
• 13:16
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, our vice president, Vance, he posted on X today,
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_01: and he blatantly admitted why they lost.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that was surprising. That was surprising.
• 13:28
  SPEAKER_00: It seems like we haven't heard from him in a while,
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: and then he just straight up is like, yeah, it's the war.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody knows it.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 13:37
  SPEAKER_01: Ohio, undefeated.
• 13:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_01: But what, what, what bothered me is of course, when I, you know, so this is what I did.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to tell you guys exactly how I voted.
• 13:47
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:48
  SPEAKER_01: I voted to punish a side, but I don't consider it my side
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: because I do not consider myself a Republican and I do not consider myself
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_01: a Democrat. Punish a side.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: How interesting.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_01: And I never, I never had. Okay. Yeah.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_01: I, I, Don't have sides.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_01: I am not in the political operative.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't work for these people.
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  SPEAKER_01: I have no loyalty to these people. All right.
• 14:15
  SPEAKER_01: And it frustrates me when I get attacked on Substack and we get an attack
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: on Substack.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can't believe you betrayed us.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_01: Get out of this country, foreigner.
• 14:26
  SPEAKER_00: Get out of this country, Foreigner Dude The person yelling at you for being
• 14:31
  SPEAKER_00: a foreigner when they have the punctuation of a jeep.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_00: Come on, get the fuck out.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_01: Get the fuck out of here.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: Ultimately, what we have to understand is that these political parties are not monarchies.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_01: They are not God-ordained leaders.
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  SPEAKER_01: We do not owe them loyalty.
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_01: If we had a God-ordained monarch or a leader...
• 14:57
  SPEAKER_01: I would follow that leader to the end of the world.
• 15:03
  SPEAKER_01: If Aragorn was my king, I would follow him to the gates of Mordor. Okay?
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_01: I would follow him to the undead lands.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_00: But he's not.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_00: If Denethor was the steward, I'm at the gate.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's fine. Right.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 15:17
  SPEAKER_01: I owe these people nothing, right?
• 15:20
  SPEAKER_01: They are mercenaries that rely upon our votes and our support
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  SPEAKER_01: and they are our employees ultimately.
• 15:27
  SPEAKER_01: And if they fail us and don't do anything for us, I do nothing for them.
• 15:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's the key important thing.
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  SPEAKER_01: While the whole thing itself is a farce,
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  SPEAKER_01: the biggest farce is the boomer-coded idea that I'm going
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_01: to vote red no matter what.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: And it's the same on the left.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're just as dumb.
• 15:47
  SPEAKER_01: You have to understand that I have specific things.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: I have things that I care about on a local level.
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: So when I voted...
• 15:55
  SPEAKER_01: And it was very easy for me.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: I'll be honest.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: If voting was a pain in the butt and it was across town or something like that,
• 16:02
  SPEAKER_01: I would have not done it. I'm not going to lie.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_01: I probably would have been like, whatever, dude.
• 16:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have time for this shit.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_01: But because it was literally across the street from me and it took me 10 minutes
• 16:11
  SPEAKER_01: to do so, I went and I did.
• 16:13
  SPEAKER_01: And you know how I voted?
• 16:14
  SPEAKER_01: I specifically, and I did some more.
• 16:17
  SPEAKER_01: I did my research.
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  SPEAKER_01: I read the opinions of all the people involved.
• 16:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I voted red on almost It read on almost All the issues.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_01: South Carolina tried to pass a penny tax where they're going to tax us more for roads and stuff.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: I voted against that. Why?
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because I don't need more roads because I don't want people coming to South Carolina.
• 16:34
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want better roads. I want worse roads in South Carolina.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_01: I want third world roads. I want dirt roads.
• 16:39
  SPEAKER_01: I want our highways to be dirt.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: I want people to have to have off-road vehicles.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: Just mines.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: Just mines. Explosives.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: High explosives the entire way.
• 16:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: And I voted against that.
• 16:52
  SPEAKER_01: I voted on some local councilman type stuff because, for example,
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: I particularly met one of the families of one of the people that was running
• 17:02
  SPEAKER_01: for sheriff and they were fucked up.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, I'm going to vote against these people 100%
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: because if their family is fucked up, I'm not going to vote for this guy.
• 17:10
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: And I made sure I voted for the governor because I don't want the state to go blue.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_01: And I voted specifically to punch, but here's the thing, right?
• 17:23
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody said on Substack just earlier that, well, you voted for the enemy.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Voting for the enemy implies that the other person is my friend.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: And let me tell you what, Lindsey Graham's sister is not my friend, okay?
• 17:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry to tell you guys that, but that's not your friend.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: A 65-year-old Boomer Nepo baby that was put into the position by the president is not my friend.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry to say that, guys.
• 17:54
  SPEAKER_01: She did nothing or said nothing that even showed anything And, you know,
• 18:00
  SPEAKER_01: remotely as my friend, right?
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Her brother whose seat she filled specifically voted for us to get involved in the Ukraine war.
• 18:10
  SPEAKER_01: Not my friend.
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_01: Specifically voted for us to get into the Iran war.
• 18:14
  SPEAKER_01: Not my friend, my dudes, right?
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_01: And those are things that have direct action on me, right?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, when I go to the store...
• 18:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I buy a thing of chicken, a soda, and a thing of bread, and it's $45 at Publix.
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: But I know that there's a billion dollars worth of bonds being dropped every hour.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm kind of not into that, my dudes, right?
• 18:37
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm kind of not into that.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_01: And to be honest, I voted for boomers, against boomers, that is.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I voted.
• 18:44
  SPEAKER_01: I voted against boomers because the red side of the political spectrum
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_01: in South Carolina, their entire position was pro-boomer, all right?
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_01: For you guys that don't live in South Carolina,
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: the entirety of the state is rich boomers living
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: on little islands like Hilton Hill Island or outside of Charleston and million,
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_01: million dollar homes that they bought like 40, 50 years ago.
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_01: Sucking the middle class millennials dry
• 19:13
  SPEAKER_01: while importing foreigners and data centers, right?
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Because in building cheap apartments to house a bunch of illegal people
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_01: that staff their restaurants and stuff so they can have vacation time.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm sorry that I did not vote for the party that wants the state to be
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_01: a perpetual boomer retirement center
• 19:35
  SPEAKER_01: and suck away while the entirety
• 19:39
  SPEAKER_01: of my neighborhood is millennials with children who can barely afford to go
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_01: to the grocery store. Yeah, I'm sorry. So guess what I voted?
• 19:45
  SPEAKER_01: I voted for the millennial.
• 19:48
  SPEAKER_01: Is she going to make it better?
• 19:49
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: But she hasn't been given the chance yet, and she will.
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: So that's where the disconnect is.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_01: The disconnect for a lot of people is that all they see is the online version
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_01: and not the on the ground version.
• 20:05
  SPEAKER_01: The reality is, and this is something
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_01: that the guys on the left truly understand.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_01: They want their party to give them a bone.
• 20:17
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean? And you know what?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_01: I want that too.
• 20:20
  SPEAKER_01: I want that too.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: If I have to vote left to get stuff, well, then I'm going to vote left because I need stuff.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_01: I ain't doing this shit for free, dog.
• 20:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 20:31
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to sit here and die for thoughts and feelings and hearts and prayers or whatever.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: Thoughts and prayers, baby.
• 20:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm not doing that. I'm sorry.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_01: But every...
• 20:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like name one positive that any guy that supported the right in the last 10 years,
• 20:48
  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about the mainstream right has gotten zero, nothing. All right. Nothing.
• 20:55
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 20:56
  SPEAKER_01: And Oh, what do we get?
• 20:58
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, look, it's a retread a replay of, you know, 2002, uh, you know,
• 21:03
  SPEAKER_01: fucking yellow cake, uranium nuclear war again. Right.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 21:07
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, my friends, but I'm not falling for that shit again.
• 21:11
  SPEAKER_01: And One of the things that was kind of ignored has been ignored today
• 21:16
  SPEAKER_01: in the conversation is that the biggest loss on the right
• 21:22
  SPEAKER_01: during this election has been in young white males.
• 21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 21:27
  SPEAKER_01: And that, in my opinion, that was pretty incredible.
• 21:29
  SPEAKER_00: That was pretty incredible to see those numbers.
• 21:31
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just like, okay, well,
• 21:34
  SPEAKER_01: and that's me. That's us.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's us, bro. All right.
• 21:37
  SPEAKER_01: And, and people, I don't understand what happened.
• 21:40
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I know what happened.
• 21:42
  SPEAKER_01: If everybody's like me, well, then that's exactly what happened.
• 21:47
  SPEAKER_01: Because I talked to people today.
• 21:49
  SPEAKER_01: I was out and about town today, and I talked to a bunch of people.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I told you there's a lot of male people in my neighborhood, in my town.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of military guys.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_01: A lot of guys were like some heavy hitter motherfuckers.
• 22:02
  SPEAKER_01: I know a bunch of guys that were SOCOM, like spec ops guys and stuff.
• 22:05
  SPEAKER_01: And almost all of them, all of them to a T, voted Democrat. All right.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_01: We're talking about guys that like were diehard Trump guys, you know, two, three years ago.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_01: And they were like, you know what?
• 22:18
  SPEAKER_01: I can't, I can't put fucking groceries in the goddamn bag.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_01: Cause I, you know, I have to take stuff out because I can't afford it.
• 22:24
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm, I'm, middle-class that shit matters, my dudes. All right.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: That shit matters.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I think what you're going to see in my generation, like our generation, like,
• 22:34
  SPEAKER_01: you know, older millennials, millennials and Gen Z is that we are not dumb chuds.
• 22:40
  SPEAKER_01: Okay. Yeah. We're not dumb chuds.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_01: We are not.
• 22:45
  SPEAKER_01: We are not going to just vote red because you put
• 22:48
  SPEAKER_01: a MAGA hat on some Indian dude
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: or something like that and skin suit Americana.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not going to happen.
• 22:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's not going to happen.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know, the Langsnecks, the Swiss mercenaries back in the Renaissance, right?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_01: They used to have a saying, you know, you're familiar with the Swiss mercenaries, right?
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_01: They used to fight in the Italian wars, right?
• 23:11
  SPEAKER_01: In the Republic wars.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_01: Their main saying was, no silver, no Swiss, right? Right.
• 23:19
  SPEAKER_01: That means that you don't pay, you don't, we don't fight. Okay.
• 23:22
  SPEAKER_01: Well, that's exactly, that's exactly my fucking motto, dude. All right.
• 23:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's, that's exactly my motto. All right.
• 23:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a goddamn edge runner. Okay.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_01: You don't pay up.
• 23:31
  SPEAKER_01: You don't get, you don't get me.
• 23:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 23:36
  SPEAKER_01: I am not my boomer, not my parents,
• 23:39
  SPEAKER_01: but I'm not the boomer chud that's going to vote for you because I'm afraid
• 23:43
  SPEAKER_01: that abortion is going to become legal. Guess what?
• 23:45
  SPEAKER_01: It's been legal all my life, and you haven't changed anything about it,
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_01: and you're never going to change anything about it.
• 23:51
  SPEAKER_01: Personally, I don't give a fuck if the liberals abort all their kids.
• 23:55
  SPEAKER_01: It sucks, but it's not my problem. You know what I mean?
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah. We're not responsible for that.
• 23:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry. It's evil.
• 24:01
  SPEAKER_01: I know it's evil, but you know what? I don't care. You know, I don't care.
• 24:05
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care.
• 24:06
  SPEAKER_00: The world is evil. What do you want me to do about it? Yeah.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: What do you want me to do about it?
• 24:09
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not going to vote to not be able to afford groceries
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_01: because of like ideological ideas like abortion or, oh my God,
• 24:16
  SPEAKER_01: the communists are going to take over New York.
• 24:18
  SPEAKER_01: Who gives a fuck about New
• 24:19
  SPEAKER_01: York? Who gives the fuck about New York?
• 24:21
  SPEAKER_01: New York is always going to be trash.
• 24:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's always going to be filled with garbage people.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_01: And it's always going to suck.
• 24:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't care.
• 24:28
  SPEAKER_01: I want results to myself.
• 24:31
  SPEAKER_01: You got to throw me a bone here.
• 24:33
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: One of the profiles of people like me,
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_01: and I think that a lot of the guys in our sphere,
• 24:45
  SPEAKER_01: because I'm 43 years old, right?
• 24:49
  SPEAKER_01: Probably had the same trajectory I had. All right.
• 24:52
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, when I was a young guy, when I was, you know,
• 24:55
  SPEAKER_01: a High schooler and I got into like, you know,
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_01: I was always big into politics and history and stuff.
• 25:01
  SPEAKER_01: I remember one of the, one of the first books I checked out at the public library
• 25:05
  SPEAKER_01: in elementary school was like this massive, you know,
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_01: just giant like tome of the entire history of World War II.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: And like another one on the battle of Stalingrad, you know, I was always into this shit.
• 25:16
  SPEAKER_01: Right. Right. I read like the KGB files, like in middle school.
• 25:19
  SPEAKER_01: Cause I'm, I'm such a dork, you know?
• 25:22
  SPEAKER_01: And I've always, I always found this stuff fascinating. Right.
• 25:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because it is fascinating.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 25:27
  SPEAKER_01: But I, you know, I was very much a, I wouldn't say I was a Democrat.
• 25:34
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, because I wasn't political in that way, but I was very much anti-war,
• 25:40
  SPEAKER_01: you know, when 9-11 happened, right?
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_01: You know, so interestingly enough, all right?
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_01: My generation, my class, my actual class, right, was doomed, bro,
• 25:53
  SPEAKER_01: was doomed from the start, okay?
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_01: My freshman year of high school opened up with Columbine, right?
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I entered high school as Columbine happened.
• 26:05
  SPEAKER_01: That was 1998.
• 26:08
  SPEAKER_01: Boom. That was the opening salvo of my high school, you know, coming into adulthood.
• 26:14
  SPEAKER_01: And my senior year was 9-11, bro.
• 26:21
  SPEAKER_01: So I am cursed, right?
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: I'm the class of being cursed, basically.
• 26:26
  SPEAKER_01: Open up with Columbine and close it off with 9-11, right?
• 26:30
  SPEAKER_01: So...
• 26:31
  SPEAKER_01: I initially was very anti-war.
• 26:34
  SPEAKER_01: I was a Southern California liberal, but I wasn't anti-war.
• 26:38
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to love everybody and all this stuff.
• 26:43
  SPEAKER_01: I was anti-war because I realized very early on that it was I knew it was going
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_01: to turn into a decade worth of stuff. I was there.
• 26:53
  SPEAKER_01: I was there with the yellow cake uranium and all the chud flag waving and all
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: the motivational stuff.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_01: I remember that stuff.
• 27:03
  SPEAKER_01: I was there when I was like, wait a second.
• 27:06
  SPEAKER_01: So you're telling me a bunch of Saudi Arabians crash planes into the Twin Towers,
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_01: but we're going to attack Afghanistan.
• 27:17
  SPEAKER_01: Hmm. Well, that doesn't make sense.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I was there, man. Okay.
• 27:21
  SPEAKER_01: I was there for like the Dave Chappelle skits.
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: I was there for all that stuff. Okay.
• 27:25
  SPEAKER_01: And Dave Chappelle skits, you know, you remember the yellow cake, uranium and all that stuff.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: Right. You know, I was there for, for the, the, the mission accomplished on,
• 27:34
  SPEAKER_01: on the aircraft carrier and that kind of stuff.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 27:39
  SPEAKER_01: And I was very much against that.
• 27:41
  SPEAKER_00: I was actually clear weapons.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: All right. I was a fan of Howard Dean.
• 27:45
  SPEAKER_01: I remember if you guys remember Howard Dean.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: Howard Dean was, you know, and when he got, he got, he did the yeah thing.
• 27:52
  SPEAKER_01: And like, you know, that, that, that was, that was so, oh my God,
• 27:56
  SPEAKER_01: that was the end of his career when he freaking was a little bit too enthusiastic
• 27:59
  SPEAKER_01: because politicians are now to be enthusiastic back in the day or something. Yeah.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: Is that funny that he got, that the guy got taken out because he went just a little
• 28:07
  SPEAKER_00: over the top?
• 28:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's, you know, looking back, it's so quaint. It's so quaint.
• 28:12
  SPEAKER_00: He just got memed and everyone was like, yeah, yeah.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_01: He got memed before memes were a thing, right?
• 28:19
  SPEAKER_01: So, yeah, I was there for that.
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, Jesus.
• 28:23
  SPEAKER_01: I remember to this day, my dudes.
• 28:27
  SPEAKER_01: I was sitting at the coffee shop at this place called Mother Muds in California.
• 28:30
  SPEAKER_01: It was a little indie coffee shop that I loved and I used to work at for a long time.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: And my friend Richard rolled up and Richard was, he's my age.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: So, you know, He was also into politics and we used to sit around
• 28:42
  SPEAKER_01: and smoke cigarettes and talk about politics all night.
• 28:45
  SPEAKER_01: And he goes, he goes, dude, I was watching like the state of the union address.
• 28:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then the, you know, the,
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: I forgot what it's called when like the rebuttal from like the, the minority party,
• 28:57
  SPEAKER_01: the response or whatever, the response. Right.
• 28:59
  SPEAKER_01: And he's like, They had this dude, this black dude, and this guy was so good.
• 29:06
  SPEAKER_01: He was so good. You should go watch that.
• 29:10
  SPEAKER_01: He was talking about Barack Obama because they brought Barack Obama out of nowhere.
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_01: He was a junior senator.
• 29:19
  SPEAKER_01: He did the rebuttal, the minority opinion.
• 29:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he gave a great speech.
• 29:27
  SPEAKER_01: And like when I watched that, I remember he's going to become the president.
• 29:30
  SPEAKER_01: This is the guy. This is the guy they're going to choose.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're going to bring him up. Right. And you know what?
• 29:35
  SPEAKER_01: I actually had hopes for that guy.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: I thought, you know what?
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_01: I kind of want this.
• 29:40
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want a Clinton.
• 29:41
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want a Clinton.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_00: No.
• 29:43
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 29:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want a McCain, which was just, you know, George Bush Jr., basically,
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: you know, and the guy had no charisma whatsoever.
• 29:54
  SPEAKER_01: And it's all about vibes, guys.
• 29:56
  SPEAKER_01: I thought, you know, this was going to be the good thing for America.
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to have a half black guy, half white guy.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: He's mixed race.
• 30:02
  SPEAKER_01: He's like the future of America, like a mixed race, liberal but intellectual, well-spoken guy.
• 30:09
  SPEAKER_01: He's intelligent, blah, blah, blah, whatever.
• 30:11
  SPEAKER_01: I thought he was cool, right?
• 30:13
  SPEAKER_01: And he was anti-war.
• 30:14
  SPEAKER_01: That was one of his main selling points, you know?
• 30:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_01: And he won.
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, we had a surge.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I was in Afghanistan like a year later.
• 30:27
  SPEAKER_01: Like, whoops.
• 30:29
  SPEAKER_01: But, you know, and that's when I got the reality of it.
• 30:31
  SPEAKER_01: And people go, but Alex, you were anti-war and you were in the military?
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, dude, I was. Right?
• 30:36
  SPEAKER_01: It's not that weird.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm an agent of chaos, my dudes. All right?
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_01: I've always been an agent of chaos. Right?
• 30:43
  SPEAKER_01: Like, just because I'm anti-something doesn't mean I'm not going to do it. Right.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right. And my thought process was, you know what? A war's going on.
• 30:51
  SPEAKER_01: You got to fight it. You know, you can't just sit around and do nothing. Right.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I can't bitch about it. I also had some personal reasons.
• 30:57
  SPEAKER_01: One of my personal reasons is because I am a foreigner.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm an immigrant and I, I, I refused to get my U S citizenship until I deployed to Afghanistan.
• 31:06
  SPEAKER_01: That was one of my rules. Okay.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: I told myself, cause you know, I could have, I could have done it much earlier.
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_01: But I said, no, no, I'm not going to do it until I serve my country or my adopted country.
• 31:16
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to go out there.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I chose a job in the military, which was, you know, it was a US Navy corpsman,
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_01: which is basically a medic for you guys that don't understand,
• 31:25
  SPEAKER_01: a medic for the Marines.
• 31:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I don't believe in this shit.
• 31:28
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's fake and stupid, right? And it was.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_01: And I walked around Afghanistan talking to a bunch of peasants.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, oh, you don't even know what a cell phone is.
• 31:35
  SPEAKER_01: How the fuck did you even know? You don't even know what 9-11 was.
• 31:38
  SPEAKER_01: They thought you
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_00: were Soviets.
• 31:42
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't even know who the Soviets were when they fought the Soviets.
• 31:46
  SPEAKER_01: And the reality of the situation was I did that and I chose that job
• 31:51
  SPEAKER_01: because I wanted to make sure that maybe I could keep one guy from dying.
• 31:55
  SPEAKER_01: I could be there and keep one guy to go home to his family.
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: That's all I care about that.
• 32:01
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_01: I deployed to Afghanistan, you know, with just a green card. All right. I did that.
• 32:08
  SPEAKER_01: And people were like, oh, you're going to have a green card? It's weird. You know?
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, no, dude.
• 32:12
  SPEAKER_00: Why do you get pissed at these people so bad?
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_00: Because they don't fucking know.
• 32:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I did it, and I did it, and when I got back, you know what?
• 32:17
  SPEAKER_01: I got around to it, and I got my citizenship and stuff, and I did it,
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_01: and I felt like I earned it. Why?
• 32:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because I used to have very, very shitlib views, right?
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_01: Not shitlib, but like liberal views, and I had a friend named Rick,
• 32:29
  SPEAKER_01: and Rick used to call me a commie fuck all the time.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_01: I used to sit there at the coffee shop smoking cigarettes, and Rick was an old army vet, right?
• 32:37
  SPEAKER_01: And he had been injured in like the first goal floor,
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_01: and he used to walk with a limb because he had cane, and he'd roll up,
• 32:45
  SPEAKER_01: I love the guy, he loved me too, obviously we were friends,
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_01: but he'd always pick on me for my more liberal views, right?
• 32:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, your more homosexual views. Yeah.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_01: I did not want anybody to like ever question my, my patriotism or my, you know, my,
• 33:01
  SPEAKER_01: my loyalty to the United States.
• 33:02
  SPEAKER_01: So I said, you know what, I'm going to go fucking serve in the military.
• 33:05
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to go to combat and I'm going to tell everybody else to shut the fuck up,
• 33:09
  SPEAKER_01: you know, and there you go. I did it. Right.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_01: And five deployments, five deployments later, you know, right.
• 33:15
  SPEAKER_01: Here we are.
• 33:16
  SPEAKER_01: But you know, the, the, the truth of the matter, right.
• 33:20
  SPEAKER_01: Is that I realized very early on during the Obama era that, you know, that,
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: you know, it's just, I have a certain set of beliefs and they never changed.
• 33:29
  SPEAKER_01: They never changed. I was anti-war.
• 33:33
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not anti-war.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not like a hippie that believes that you should not have war
• 33:40
  SPEAKER_01: and that war is not going to be happening or whatever. I truly am.
• 33:43
  SPEAKER_01: The way I look at war is I look at war in a way like Tolkien looked at war.
• 33:50
  SPEAKER_01: My favorite line about war is, I believe,
• 33:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to mess it up because I'm hyped up right now.
• 33:56
  SPEAKER_01: But in Lord of the Rings, I believe it's in the two towers.
• 34:01
  SPEAKER_01: I believe it was Boromir's brother said something along
• 34:07
  SPEAKER_01: the lines of,
• 34:09
  SPEAKER_01: I do not love the sword or the arrow for its sharpness or the sword
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: for its keenness, but I love those things for what they protect.
• 34:17
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 34:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I butchered the quote. All right.
• 34:20
  SPEAKER_01: So you guys can find it, but I think it's the best quote on,
• 34:22
  SPEAKER_01: on the true Christian warrior mindset, right?
• 34:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 34:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like we have to fight for the things we believe in and we will fight to the death
• 34:31
  SPEAKER_01: to protect the things that we love. Right.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: But we don't love fighting for fighting sake.
• 34:36
  SPEAKER_01: We don't love violence for violence sake.
• 34:38
  SPEAKER_01: We don't love violence for brutality.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's what defines us as a Christian civilization
• 34:44
  SPEAKER_01: or a honorable Christian civilization compared to just the brutality of like
• 34:49
  SPEAKER_01: the Mongols or any other savages that live on this planet. Right.
• 34:54
  SPEAKER_01: Because the world is filled with savages.
• 34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Right. Like brutality and savagery is not an honorable thing.
• 35:01
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's brutality.
• 35:04
  SPEAKER_01: Used as a tool for honor and for for justice and for good things
• 35:08
  SPEAKER_01: and good things isn't to protect the things you love is where, you know,
• 35:11
  SPEAKER_01: violence can be justified. Right?
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 35:14
  SPEAKER_01: So that that's always been my belief.
• 35:17
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, what, you know, one of the things,
• 35:23
  SPEAKER_01: one of the things that really kind of really like define my belief Over the many,
• 35:29
  SPEAKER_01: many years is that I'm an isolationist, right?
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: I always believed that ideally,
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_01: the ideal military and the ideal country is a country
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_01: that minds its own fucking business, right?
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I truly believe, right?
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_01: I believe that the best country,
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_01: the best thing about America prior to post-World War II,
• 35:52
  SPEAKER_01: Star Trekification of what we live in, right?
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_01: Was a country that be like uninvolved in the nonsense of Europe, you know,
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_01: unentangled by foreign alliances and sillinesses. Right.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what allowed America to skyrocket into, you know, its superiority.
• 36:12
  SPEAKER_01: And I honestly think that we should have a very strong military,
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: but a very small military, not a bloated, not a bloated administrative bloat that,
• 36:22
  SPEAKER_01: you know, I don't know what it is right now, but like, you know what I mean? Right?
• 36:25
  SPEAKER_01: Like we don't need that.
• 36:26
  SPEAKER_01: We need strong military to defend our borders and maybe get involved
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: in the local area like Canada or, you know, the Caribbean,
• 36:34
  SPEAKER_01: that kind of stuff to protect our interests and Closely around us, right? Right.
• 36:39
  SPEAKER_01: But not have 800 bases around the world and that kind of stuff.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the original idea.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_00: The original idea.
• 36:44
  SPEAKER_01: I'm an isolationist.
• 36:46
  SPEAKER_01: And I also believe that America as a whole, the United States, is really, really,
• 36:51
  SPEAKER_01: really bad, okay?
• 36:54
  SPEAKER_01: Really bad at being an empire, all right?
• 36:56
  SPEAKER_01: We are probably the crappiest empire that's ever existed in the history of empires, right?
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_00: We're the only empire that tried to convince everybody else we weren't.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 37:05
  SPEAKER_00: And that's the problem.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_00: Totally not an empire of bros.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: And that's really the problem because a good empire, a good empire,
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: when they're abroad, they placate the people back home by bringing riches.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: All right. That's how it works.
• 37:24
  SPEAKER_01: My dudes, you go somewhere, you fuck shit up and you bring stuff and you make
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_01: the empire, the core of the empire, you make it wealthy.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: That is how it works.
• 37:36
  SPEAKER_00: You make it Rome, baby.
• 37:38
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and Rome collapsed because it stopped doing this.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_01: That was one of the main keys, right?
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, exactly.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_01: So if the outskirts of the empire are being, you know,
• 37:48
  SPEAKER_01: sucked dry of their material and their people, their loot, right?
• 37:54
  SPEAKER_01: The capital needs to be powerful.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_01: It needs to be, it needs to have great,
• 37:59
  SPEAKER_01: but the reality of it is that's not the case because we're out there doing shit
• 38:04
  SPEAKER_01: and I can't afford groceries back home, right?
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_01: And our cities are covered in homeless people in tents.
• 38:13
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't make any sense, right?
• 38:16
  SPEAKER_00: In a lot of ways, it strikes me as a very communist thing because it was probably
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_00: the same thing for the Soviet Union where like all the stuff
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_00: at the outskirts was better off than the core.
• 38:30
  SPEAKER_00: And in the core, you know, you're like, oh,
• 38:32
  SPEAKER_00: I can't take delivery of a car 10 years from now because I'm getting my washer
• 38:36
  SPEAKER_00: that day.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 38:38
  SPEAKER_00: You know, it's the old joke. It's like, it doesn't make any sense.
• 38:40
  SPEAKER_01: But if you look at, you know, the other, you know, Superpower empire right now,
• 38:45
  SPEAKER_01: which is China, right?
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:48
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're out there looting all over Africa and parts of South America
• 38:52
  SPEAKER_01: and all over the place in Southeast Asia and stuff, right?
• 38:55
  SPEAKER_01: They're doing their thing.
• 38:57
  SPEAKER_01: But their cities look like cyberpunk cities.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_01: And there's no bums on the street.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_01: And their citizens are rich.
• 39:04
  SPEAKER_01: So in a way, it kind of makes sense what they're doing, right?
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_01: I wouldn't have a problem with us being evil.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_01: If I actually got something out of it.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean? Right?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_01: Like, look, look, if, if my groceries were cheap, and gas was a dollar,
• 39:23
  SPEAKER_01: I don't give a fuck, you can loot the crap out of all the Middle East.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: I don't give a shit. Right?
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_01: But it's not, you know, right.
• 39:29
  SPEAKER_01: And
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_01: That pisses me off.
• 39:34
  SPEAKER_01: And the other thing that pisses me off, and people don't understand this,
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: there's optics involved.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_01: And this is where the problem with the current escapade
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_01: with this current war thing is that we are
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_01: a people that Need a story, right?
• 39:52
  SPEAKER_01: And this is what Curtis Yarvin was really, you know,
• 39:55
  SPEAKER_01: back in his early days when he was writing Unqualified Reservations,
• 39:58
  SPEAKER_01: he talked about the idea of the story of a people, right?
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: That's very important, right?
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, Star Trek is a great example because I've said
• 40:12
  SPEAKER_01: that Star Trek really tracks with how our development as a people, right?
• 40:16
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 40:17
  SPEAKER_01: If you watch The Next Generation and Deep Space Nine and stuff, The Federation has a story.
• 40:23
  SPEAKER_01: They're the good guys, right? They're the good guys.
• 40:25
  SPEAKER_01: You know, they're out there.
• 40:27
  SPEAKER_01: They're out there and they're these egalitarian good guys and blah, blah, blah, right?
• 40:32
  SPEAKER_00: Fancy spaceship and everything. Right.
• 40:34
  SPEAKER_01: And they tell themselves that they're the good guys.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: They're, you know, they're the intellectual aristocratic liberals
• 40:39
  SPEAKER_01: or Captain Jean-Luc Picard, you know, blah, blah, blah.
• 40:44
  SPEAKER_01: If you watch the show, they're really not the good guys.
• 40:46
  SPEAKER_01: And Deep Space Nine does a really good job of kind of like showing that hypocrisy
• 40:50
  SPEAKER_01: because the Bajorans are like, no, we don't want to be a part of you guys.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_00: Because everybody's like, we need to want to be part of the Federation.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_01: Well, they might be the good guys, but they're no different than the Borg.
• 40:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because if a planet gets attacked by the Borg, they become the Borg.
• 41:03
  SPEAKER_01: But if a planet gets saved by the Federation, they become the Federation.
• 41:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's the same fucking thing as the Borg, right?
• 41:10
  SPEAKER_01: That was the main irony, is that the Borg and the Federation were
• 41:14
  SPEAKER_01: the same fucking people, right?
• 41:17
  SPEAKER_01: It was just that one was a bionic thing, but...
• 41:21
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 41:22
  SPEAKER_00: The Borg had reached the logical end point.
• 41:26
  SPEAKER_01: Right. Of the Federation.
• 41:27
  SPEAKER_00: The Federation just hadn't gotten there yet.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_01: Right. You know? Yeah.
• 41:30
  SPEAKER_01: But like if you got taken over by the board,
• 41:32
  SPEAKER_01: you lost all identity and you're part of the collective.
• 41:34
  SPEAKER_01: If you got, if you joined the Federation, well,
• 41:35
  SPEAKER_01: you lost all identity and put on the jumpsuit and now you're
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_01: on the Federation starship.
• 41:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's like Ennis Lyons' fast and slow totalitarianism.
• 41:46
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 41:47
  SPEAKER_00: Just fast. Right. That's all. And it's the machine.
• 41:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's machine efficiency. Right.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: The Federation is still a bunch of fucking meat sacks.
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_00: So it's slower.
• 41:57
  SPEAKER_01: But when when Picard was on the starship,
• 42:02
  SPEAKER_01: he they believed the story.
• 42:05
  SPEAKER_01: They believed the myth of the Federation.
• 42:07
  SPEAKER_01: They believed the founding vibes of the Federation. Yeah.
• 42:11
  SPEAKER_01: And You can see that in 2002, 2003, the first Iraq, global war on terror stuff, right?
• 42:19
  SPEAKER_01: That we knew.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I knew when I was 21 years old or whatever back in 2003.
• 42:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sure you knew, and I'm sure everybody listening knew
• 42:30
  SPEAKER_01: that the guys are old enough to were there.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_01: We knew that Iraq probably had nothing to do with 9-11.
• 42:39
  SPEAKER_00: Man, I remember being in college and having just this deep sense of foreboding.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: Just this deep, this is fucked.
• 42:47
  SPEAKER_00: This is not right.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_00: This is not going to go the way we want it to.
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: Like you knew.
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_01: You knew.
• 42:54
  SPEAKER_01: Even the most like, you know, most hearted chud.
• 42:57
  SPEAKER_00: Shit lib, yeah, shit lib, division three. Yeah, everybody knew.
• 43:01
  SPEAKER_00: Philosophy major who doesn't know fucking anything is going.
• 43:03
  SPEAKER_00: This ain't it.
• 43:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was like, it was an open secret, you know?
• 43:09
  SPEAKER_01: But you know what?
• 43:10
  SPEAKER_01: They kept up the pretense, right?
• 43:12
  SPEAKER_01: They kept up the pretense and they kept up the Captain Kirk, Captain Picard thing,
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: you know, of like, we're fighting the axes of evil.
• 43:20
  SPEAKER_01: We're fighting terrorism.
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_01: We're fighting all that stuff, right?
• 43:23
  SPEAKER_01: But 20 years later, nobody's buying it. All right.
• 43:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's not believable.
• 43:28
  SPEAKER_01: And they're not even trying to, they're not even trying to make it look like they are.
• 43:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay. When, you know, we're sitting here, you know, killing like an unarmed ship,
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_01: you know, with a submarine and bragging about it,
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_01: or we've got Instagram pictures of, you know,
• 43:44
  SPEAKER_01: like an aircraft carrier covered in like, you know, like, you know,
• 43:48
  SPEAKER_01: Kills or whatever. And we know very well that we fucking bombed the school and shit.
• 43:54
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't feel good.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't feel motivating.
• 43:56
  SPEAKER_01: It doesn't feel like I'm the good guy.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody wants that.
• 44:01
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody wants to be the bad guy.
• 44:03
  SPEAKER_01: So of course nobody likes this shit, okay?
• 44:06
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody likes this shit because I don't want to be the Mongol, all right?
• 44:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be Genghis Khan.
• 44:11
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be the bad guy, all right?
• 44:14
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the reality of the situation is that there's a fatigue on it.
• 44:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I saw that happening On 4th of July, man, all right?
• 44:24
  SPEAKER_01: There was no, like, you wouldn't believe, like, I was shocked, okay?
• 44:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because I'm used to growing up in California,
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_01: and towards the end of my time in California, you know, the whole,
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_01: it wasn't the most patriotic American, you know, American, you know, state, right?
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: But even in California, We had huge 4th of July celebrations,
• 44:47
  SPEAKER_01: fireworks and all this kind of stuff.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: It was, it was always like that.
• 44:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was like, you know, people forgot their political leanings on 4th of July, you know?
• 44:54
  SPEAKER_01: And here I am walking through deep, the deep South, South Carolina on 4th of July this year.
• 45:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it was the most anti-climate,
• 45:01
  SPEAKER_01: like there wasn't even any fireworks in my neighborhood, basically.
• 45:05
  SPEAKER_01: It was completely dead.
• 45:07
  SPEAKER_01: And I remember I said that on the podcast, I think the day after I was like,
• 45:10
  SPEAKER_01: that was kind of a disappointing 4th of July where like nobody showed up
• 45:13
  SPEAKER_01: and nobody did anything.
• 45:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I think it has to do with a fatigue towards, you know, chest thumping.
• 45:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it's the fact that like, I can't, you know,
• 45:21
  SPEAKER_01: you go to the grocery store down the street and you can't afford the stuff.
• 45:25
  SPEAKER_01: People are defaulting on their mortgages. They're losing their jobs.
• 45:29
  SPEAKER_01: There are no jobs.
• 45:31
  SPEAKER_01: College no longer seems like a route towards anything.
• 45:35
  SPEAKER_01: And the thing is, when you look at the political thing is you have to ask yourself,
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_01: what am I getting?
• 45:41
  SPEAKER_01: So I kind of went offline for a bit,
• 45:43
  SPEAKER_01: but what I'm trying to say is that I am
• 45:47
  SPEAKER_01: a great example of the progression to voting
• 45:51
  SPEAKER_01: for Trump in a way. Right.
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_01: I went a lot, a lot of guys very similar to me, right.
• 45:58
  SPEAKER_01: Went from being Semi-liberal, you know,
• 46:02
  SPEAKER_01: young guys that felt that they were completely left out of, you know,
• 46:07
  SPEAKER_01: the political sphere by the, you know, kind of the betrayal of the anti-war Obama,
• 46:13
  SPEAKER_01: who then became very pro-war and became a, you know, a giant,
• 46:20
  SPEAKER_01: you know, a neoliberal, you know, neoliberalism.
• 46:24
  SPEAKER_01: And Completely turned off by the Republican Party,
• 46:28
  SPEAKER_01: by the old fossils like McCain and those guys.
• 46:32
  SPEAKER_01: But we had Trump come out of nowhere and he was a new guy. He was an our guy.
• 46:36
  SPEAKER_01: Because I mean, let's be honest here. My wife's always said this.
• 46:39
  SPEAKER_01: She goes, that dude's always been a He's a New York Democrat, right?
• 46:42
  SPEAKER_01: He's always been a New York Democrat, right?
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_01: So in a way, he was kind of the best of both worlds.
• 46:46
  SPEAKER_01: And one of the big selling points for me to him was, hey, man,
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to focus on America, America first.
• 46:51
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we're focusing on, okay?
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to fix this shit.
• 46:54
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to hear about Ukraine, and I don't want to hear about any of that stuff.
• 46:57
  SPEAKER_01: And look, I'm mercenary in my belief.
• 47:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you know what?
• 47:02
  SPEAKER_01: All that stuff in Ukraine, it sucks.
• 47:03
  SPEAKER_01: And it sucks that Christians are killing Christians and all this stuff,
• 47:07
  SPEAKER_01: but it's not my problem, my dudes.
• 47:08
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not Ukrainian or Russian. I don't care.
• 47:10
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care enough to not be able to afford groceries.
• 47:17
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like Hamas attacking Israel back on October 7th or whatever.
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: It was just nasty brutality, disgusting, right?
• 47:27
  SPEAKER_01: Once again, not my problem, right? That sucks.
• 47:30
  SPEAKER_00: That's horrible.
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe figure that out.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_01: Just like mass graves in Africa don't bother me.
• 47:38
  SPEAKER_01: That's horrible, but it's not my problem.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_01: Same thing in Bhutan or wherever or whatever Southeast Asian country is genociding, whoever.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_01: It sucks.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the thing is, Alex, the thing is, the thing is, is it's the end of the World War II.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_00: It's the end of the post-war order.
• 47:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's the end of, you know, we were supposed to fix all that.
• 47:59
  SPEAKER_00: All of that was supposed to be done.
• 48:02
  SPEAKER_00: And the Empire is tired.
• 48:04
  SPEAKER_00: And everybody's exhausted.
• 48:05
  SPEAKER_00: And it's not, we're done.
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_00: We don't want to do this shit anymore.
• 48:09
  SPEAKER_00: We're over it. And I think for a lot of people, if it means...
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_00: If it means voting for the enemy and if it means getting these guys
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_00: in to like shred this stuff and just basically fuck the boomers. Good. Fine.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
• 48:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_00: Because I mean, how much worse could that pain be compared to what we're already experiencing?
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 48:29
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, how much worse is it going to get? Well, whatever.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to get bad regardless.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: We can't even say that it's the enemy because they're all the enemy in a way. Yeah.
• 48:37
  SPEAKER_01: Right. Exactly. They're all the enemy.
• 48:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right. And that's the thing. It's like, you know what?
• 48:43
  SPEAKER_01: People got excited.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm trying to explain why people are shocked all of a sudden
• 48:48
  SPEAKER_01: or why there was such a huge defection, right?
• 48:52
  SPEAKER_01: It's because you had young guys, mostly white dudes,
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_01: That sat there and memed Trump one into existence. Okay.
• 49:01
  SPEAKER_01: And they meme Trump one into existence and it was exciting. It was fun.
• 49:04
  SPEAKER_01: They revitalized the right wing.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_01: They, you know, they brought in a lot of like very, you know, guys like, like,
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: you know, bronze age pervert and all these guys brought in a bunch
• 49:13
  SPEAKER_01: of European right wing ideas.
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_01: They revitalized the right in that, that early Twitter night, 2016 era.
• 49:21
  SPEAKER_01: And that was a rejection, not so much a approval of the Republican Party.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_01: It was a complete rejection of the boomer regime, you know?
• 49:31
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 49:32
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what it was.
• 49:33
  SPEAKER_01: And of course, you know, Trump shit the bed at the end of the first tour, you know,
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_01: tore around and messed up on the lockdowns and messed up on everything.
• 49:44
  SPEAKER_01: The dog that caught the car.
• 49:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I tell you guys, I did not vote for him the second time.
• 49:50
  SPEAKER_01: I did not vote for him the second time.
• 49:53
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason I didn't vote for him is because when I was out of the country too,
• 49:57
  SPEAKER_01: I still wouldn't have voted for him
• 49:59
  SPEAKER_01: because I held him responsible for the lockdowns
• 50:04
  SPEAKER_01: and I thought that he did not take a strong enough He had the power to shut down
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_01: the protests and all the violence in the summer of 2020. And he didn't.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_01: He sat down and he allowed the lockdowns.
• 50:16
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't use his executive power to get us out.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_01: And during his debates, That summer, all he did was pander.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_01: He pandered to minorities and this and that. And that's great.
• 50:27
  SPEAKER_01: I don't have a problem with people talking about, oh,
• 50:30
  SPEAKER_01: I'm trying to raise black people up and on. That's cool. That's great.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: But what do you do for me, bro?
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_01: I'm locked down in my COVID prison.
• 50:36
  SPEAKER_01: Are you helping me out?
• 50:37
  SPEAKER_01: No, you're not.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: So he didn't deserve my vote that time around, right?
• 50:42
  SPEAKER_01: And the greatest thing that happened, and people don't realize this,
• 50:45
  SPEAKER_01: the worst thing that happened to the Democrats and the best thing that happened
• 50:48
  SPEAKER_01: to the white was Trump losing that election.
• 50:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yes.
• 50:56
  SPEAKER_01: People don't understand this, but that was a great thing.
• 50:59
  SPEAKER_01: That was a very good thing because at that time, the left had all the momentum.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_01: They were rocking that summer of George Floyd protests, the lockdowns, all the stuff.
• 51:10
  SPEAKER_01: They painted all the right wing as Nazis and blah, blah, blah.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_01: And they got power
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_01: and what did they do? Nothing All right.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_01: Did they pander?
• 51:25
  SPEAKER_01: Did they help out their people?
• 51:27
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely not.
• 51:28
  SPEAKER_01: Instead of, you know,
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_01: they put in a Clinton clone, basically, and an old man. That's all they did.
• 51:37
  SPEAKER_01: They shat the bed because doing stuff is actually hard. That's the problem.
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_01: Doing stuff is hard.
• 51:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's easy to talk and be like the perpetual rebel, to be the perpetual anarchist,
• 51:48
  SPEAKER_01: but it's actually hard to actually govern.
• 51:50
  SPEAKER_01: So they did nothing.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 51:53
  SPEAKER_00: It gets to what Librarian was talking about in his essay
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_00: about how liberal democracy is insane because the only way to even get
• 52:02
  SPEAKER_00: in the door is to be a raging freaking moron.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then once you're in, you can't do anything about it because the only way
• 52:08
  SPEAKER_00: to get anything done is being a raging freaking moron.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_00: That doesn't work.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's all right, whatever.
• 52:15
  SPEAKER_01: Right. And they did nothing.
• 52:17
  SPEAKER_01: They shat the bed for four years.
• 52:18
  SPEAKER_01: It was a four years of just stasis.
• 52:20
  SPEAKER_01: And it was a fart.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_01: It was a wet fart from a senile old man for four years.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_01: That was the great no Trump rebellion.
• 52:28
  SPEAKER_01: That's what got us.
• 52:30
  SPEAKER_00: Biden, seriously?
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_00: Biden was the best you could do?
• 52:35
  SPEAKER_01: So basically, you had a bunch of guys that were not pro-Trump go, this kind of sucks.
• 52:40
  SPEAKER_01: You saw this towards the end of that presidency, that you had a bunch of former,
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_01: like the whole dirtbag left guys and stuff that switched sides, went to Trump.
• 52:50
  SPEAKER_01: They were like, we're going to go to Trump.
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the tech companies and everything, it's like, This ain't fucking it.
• 52:56
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely not.
• 52:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because the great anti-temp rebellion left a bunch of drunken girl bosses and administrators.
• 53:04
  SPEAKER_01: That's all it was. It was worse than...
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_01: So they brought that and they gave the right wing a mandate.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_01: The second term, the one we're in right now, was a goddamn mandate, right?
• 53:18
  SPEAKER_01: It really was.
• 53:19
  SPEAKER_01: And nothing.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_00: Burp.
• 53:21
  SPEAKER_01: Burp.
• 53:23
  SPEAKER_01: They did the exact same opposite where the Democrats brought
• 53:25
  SPEAKER_01: in the old boomer church ladies basically to power drunk drunken. Yes. Yes.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: Queens.
• 53:33
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, they brought in neocon boomers and nothing.
• 53:38
  SPEAKER_01: And you know, when I will tell you guys right now, the beginning of the end,
• 53:44
  SPEAKER_01: the beginning of the end of all this was during Charlie Kirk.
• 53:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah. Yeah.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_00: And really.
• 53:51
  SPEAKER_01: The biggest fumble, the first fumble, the most massive, not the most massive fumble,
• 53:56
  SPEAKER_01: but the initial main fumble was the Charlie Kirk assassination.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_01: Now, I could ask the question,
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: what would the left have done
• 54:09
  SPEAKER_01: if they were given this amazing political opportunity
• 54:14
  SPEAKER_01: of an assassination on one of their loved people?
• 54:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah. Well, there's one way to find out, but yes, I see what you're getting at.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no, no, no.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: We know what they would have done.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we know. We know. We know.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm saying I'd like to find out for sure these days.
• 54:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, we know what they would have done because they had Charlottesville, right?
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: If you guys remember Charlottesville during, you know, was it 2016 or whatever, right?
• 54:36
  SPEAKER_01: Some like, you know, proud boy dude or whatever ran over some fat girl.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: She had a heart attack or whatever.
• 54:42
  SPEAKER_01: Ran over some fat girl. He did.
• 54:45
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think she even died of being run over.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: She had a heart attack because she was fat or something.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's sad, but it wasn't even intentional.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't assassinate her or anything like that.
• 54:57
  SPEAKER_01: What did the left do?
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_01: They destroyed the alt-right completely.
• 55:02
  SPEAKER_01: They capitalized on it.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_01: Destroyed the Proud Boys.
• 55:06
  SPEAKER_01: They made them all look like crazy neo-Nazis.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_01: They shut down every like podcast.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_01: They destroyed all the alt media stuff.
• 55:14
  SPEAKER_01: They went after.
• 55:15
  SPEAKER_01: They weaponized the law enforcement against them.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_01: They put them on like, you know, they debanked them.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_01: They did everything, right?
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_01: And what did we do on our side? Okay.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_01: We had a very well-liked commentator assassinated in cold blood.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_01: By a lefty tranny, right?
• 55:36
  SPEAKER_01: Trans person or whatever, a trans communist person.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't know if you remember a year ago when this happened, right?
• 55:46
  SPEAKER_01: But I have friends that were absolute shit lips.
• 55:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I have I had friends that like,
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_01: were like diehard anti Trump people diehard anti Christians that were I'm like,
• 55:59
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to church. I remember that.
• 56:00
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 56:02
  SPEAKER_01: Like they were shocked by this assassination, right?
• 56:05
  SPEAKER_01: That they were, they switched sides because of this assassination, you know,
• 56:09
  SPEAKER_01: or they felt that like maybe the left is too far.
• 56:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like I had actual like extreme liberal friends, like me and my wife who like,
• 56:18
  SPEAKER_01: I would not like You know, associate with because of their actual liberalism,
• 56:22
  SPEAKER_01: make comments on Instagram and stuff that were like pro Charlie Kirk,
• 56:26
  SPEAKER_01: and they were shocked by the, you know, by this,
• 56:28
  SPEAKER_01: like the cold blooded murder and the reaction of the, you know,
• 56:31
  SPEAKER_01: the crazy left around the situation, right?
• 56:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 56:36
  SPEAKER_01: What did we do? What did the right wing do?
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing, right?
• 56:40
  SPEAKER_01: They sent the FBI director guy,
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_01: some Indian guy who was wearing cowboy boots and drinking Jack Daniels or whatever,
• 56:48
  SPEAKER_01: and did nothing.
• 56:49
  SPEAKER_01: A real political organization would have smashed them, okay?
• 56:53
  SPEAKER_01: Would have used it as a pretext to create a red scare, like an anti, you know,
• 56:58
  SPEAKER_01: they would have put all those guys on lists.
• 57:00
  SPEAKER_01: They would have deplatformed them.
• 57:02
  SPEAKER_01: They would have gone up to the money.
• 57:04
  SPEAKER_00: They would have resurrected Joe McCarthy, given him a minigun and said, just get to it.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_01: Just get to work.
• 57:09
  SPEAKER_01: They would have had public support from both the left and the right. Okay.
• 57:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because it was a heinous, heinous crime in broad daylight.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_00: And all the people that were cheering about it, they looked like freaking retards.
• 57:21
  SPEAKER_00: Just screaming like, oh yeah, we can't.
• 57:22
  SPEAKER_00: It's like, You people look insane.
• 57:25
  SPEAKER_01: The FBI and Congress should have gone after these people immediately.
• 57:30
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
• 57:31
  SPEAKER_01: They should have gone after them for fake stuff or even just being into it.
• 57:35
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't even matter.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_00: You posted something and you looked funny at it.
• 57:39
  SPEAKER_00: All right, fuck you.
• 57:40
  SPEAKER_01: But what did the mainstream right do?
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_01: What did the mainstream right do?
• 57:44
  SPEAKER_01: Oh no, we argued about conspiracy theories and like foreign legion assassin drones
• 57:51
  SPEAKER_01: and Candace Owens and we had fireworks and just the most retarded.
• 57:58
  SPEAKER_00: A black boss confuse everybody.
• 58:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just like, why the fuck was anybody listening to that?
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_00: What the fuck is wrong with you people?
• 58:05
  SPEAKER_01: I say we, but the right, the mainstream, right?
• 58:11
  SPEAKER_01: This sounds kind of evil for me to say this, but in a way, it was a political gift.
• 58:17
  SPEAKER_01: We all know that assassinations
• 58:21
  SPEAKER_01: that cause positive reaction in people
• 58:26
  SPEAKER_01: and get people on your side, like martyrdom.
• 58:29
  SPEAKER_01: We had a martyr on our side and we squandered it. Okay.
• 58:33
  SPEAKER_01: To where now this is a joke for the left.
• 58:36
  SPEAKER_01: All right. Yeah. Because there was no reprisals.
• 58:38
  SPEAKER_01: There was no repercussions.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody took any actions.
• 58:42
  SPEAKER_01: And we squandered the martyrdom of Charlie Kirk on conspiracy theories,
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_01: Candace Owens nonsense, his, you know,
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_01: like fireworks and just the most embarrassing shit on the face of the planet.
• 58:53
  SPEAKER_01: It was, it would just prove that all mainstream right people are absolute complete
• 58:58
  SPEAKER_01: and total morons. Right. Yeah.
• 59:00
  SPEAKER_00: It's, it's, it's entertainment, man. That's because that's what this is.
• 59:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's all entertainment.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's just, oh, it's fine.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_01: They could have destroyed the left a year ago, but they didn't.
• 59:11
  SPEAKER_01: And they sat on it.
• 59:12
  SPEAKER_01: And then we had You know, G -Watt 2.
• 59:16
  SPEAKER_01: GWAT II, Iraq War 2, and boom, squandered the rest of all possible.
• 59:21
  SPEAKER_01: GWAT 2, electric retard-aloo.
• 59:26
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right. Basically, to quote, you know, I believe it was Lenin, right?
• 59:31
  SPEAKER_01: That history repeats itself first as tragedy, second as farce.
• 59:34
  SPEAKER_01: I believe that was Vladimir Lenin that said that we had the fart we have
• 59:37
  SPEAKER_01: the farce that's going on right now, you know, where,
• 59:41
  SPEAKER_01: where our political commentary
• 59:43
  SPEAKER_01: from our officials is basically black rifle coffee advertisements, you know,
• 59:48
  SPEAKER_01: and it's like, holy crap, dude, can you be more retarded?
• 59:51
  SPEAKER_01: And listen, like, I don't owe these people anything.
• 59:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't owe these people anything.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_01: I am neither.
• 1:00:01
  SPEAKER_01: It is an absolute joke.
• 1:00:04
  SPEAKER_01: And if you think that you owe these people anything or you're aligned to them
• 1:00:08
  SPEAKER_01: or whatever, you're a fool.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_01: Because these people will sell you out.
• 1:00:12
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, guys on the right.
• 1:00:16
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody criticized me today, oh, you voted for the Democrats.
• 1:00:19
  SPEAKER_01: Well, I'm sorry that I didn't vote for Vivek Ramachwama,
• 1:00:23
  SPEAKER_01: who went on Christmas and told me that I'm a lazy piece of shit.
• 1:00:26
  SPEAKER_01: That's why I'm being replaced by H-1B visa Indians on Christmas of last year.
• 1:00:32
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 1:00:34
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry.
• 1:00:36
  SPEAKER_00: My biggest bright side was seeing him lose.
• 1:00:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_00: Thank fuck.
• 1:00:40
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah. I would have driven to Ohio just to vote against this guy.
• 1:00:45
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean? No, no, no.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: By that point, it's warlord. It's warlord time. Just straight up.
• 1:00:50
  SPEAKER_00: Looks like I'm going back to Ohio, guys. But that's the thing.
• 1:00:53
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to tell anyone what I'm doing.
• 1:00:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's just, jeez.
• 1:00:58
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:00:59
  SPEAKER_01: And ultimately everything we're doing here is just entertainment.
• 1:01:02
  SPEAKER_01: This is just, this is just stupid, right?
• 1:01:04
  SPEAKER_01: The whole thing is stupid, right?
• 1:01:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like you owe none of these people anything. All right.
• 1:01:08
  SPEAKER_01: This is not a football game. All right.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_01: You're not supporting your team.
• 1:01:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's not even college football.
• 1:01:13
  SPEAKER_00: At least college, hey, Kidder, Jack Kidder, like with his football maxine,
• 1:01:18
  SPEAKER_00: at least that guy's got like a point.
• 1:01:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like at least it's going to be entertaining.
• 1:01:21
  SPEAKER_00: At least we're going to feel good afterwards.
• 1:01:23
  SPEAKER_00: This, we just feel like shit.
• 1:01:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's just fucking, what were we even doing? Right.
• 1:01:27
  SPEAKER_01: Right. And ultimately, moving forward, if we're going to do the democracy thing,
• 1:01:32
  SPEAKER_01: if we're going to do the farce thing,
• 1:01:34
  SPEAKER_01: if we're going to do the whole voting farce thing and the whole thing, right?
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_01: My generation, millennials and Gen Z and younger,
• 1:01:42
  SPEAKER_01: we're not voting unless we get something from it, okay?
• 1:01:46
  SPEAKER_01: That's just the truth of the future, all right?
• 1:01:51
  SPEAKER_01: And when it comes to assessing the political element of it for entertainment purposes, right?
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_01: I am not a black pillar whatsoever, right?
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of black pilling going on. Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  SPEAKER_01: The black pilling assumes that the opposite side is competent, right? Right.
• 1:02:09
  SPEAKER_01: But they're not competent.
• 1:02:10
  SPEAKER_01: They're going to, you know, most of the people that won with the very few exceptions
• 1:02:15
  SPEAKER_01: of some of those DSA guys are also complete and total incompetence.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_01: And they're just going to, they're just going to tear each other up
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_01: and they're going to deadlock The whole system.
• 1:02:27
  SPEAKER_01: And that's all that's going to happen.
• 1:02:29
  SPEAKER_01: What we created.
• 1:02:30
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason, you know, like I said, I was a strategic,
• 1:02:34
  SPEAKER_01: there's a strategic thought process to why I did what I did, right?
• 1:02:38
  SPEAKER_01: Is that I wanted a strategic deadlock. All right.
• 1:02:41
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted a lame duckness.
• 1:02:43
  SPEAKER_01: I wanted, I wanted to stop the stupidity.
• 1:02:46
  SPEAKER_01: And the next two years, it's just going to be dumb stuff.
• 1:02:49
  SPEAKER_01: It's just going to be chaos because they're going to try to impeach.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: They're going to try to go this.
• 1:02:52
  SPEAKER_01: They're going to shut down the government.
• 1:02:54
  SPEAKER_01: They're going to do all this stuff.
• 1:02:55
  SPEAKER_00: Pure on retard town. Yeah.
• 1:02:58
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's like, for example, just like a small thing.
• 1:03:01
  SPEAKER_00: I hope nobody out there is actually worried about woke 2.0.
• 1:03:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I get that the original woke really did suck.
• 1:03:08
  SPEAKER_00: And a lot of people really, really suffered under that.
• 1:03:11
  SPEAKER_00: You don't see the sheer amount of people going, we're trans in the dogs.
• 1:03:14
  SPEAKER_00: You got to put your pronouns back in the, you know,
• 1:03:17
  SPEAKER_00: like just saying the most ridiculous over the top, like guys, we're going to, we're,
• 1:03:20
  SPEAKER_00: we're, we're transitioning Mars, Jupiter, you know, like the most ridiculous,
• 1:03:24
  SPEAKER_00: you don't say those kinds of things.
• 1:03:26
  SPEAKER_00: If you're legitimately afraid that someone's about to like crack down and do shit.
• 1:03:30
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:03:31
  SPEAKER_01: Because, because look, The reality is that the woke wasn't put away
• 1:03:37
  SPEAKER_01: by the conservatives or the Republicans.
• 1:03:40
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't do shit to get rid of the woke.
• 1:03:42
  SPEAKER_01: The woke was put away by other liberals.
• 1:03:47
  SPEAKER_01: That's what turned off the woke.
• 1:03:52
  SPEAKER_01: The mainstream Republicans did nothing to get rid of the woke.
• 1:03:56
  SPEAKER_01: They didn't do anything.
• 1:03:57
  SPEAKER_01: They did nothing.
• 1:03:58
  SPEAKER_01: It was the Hollywood liberals that got tired of it, that realized there was no money.
• 1:04:04
  SPEAKER_01: They realized that, like, whoa, wait a second.
• 1:04:06
  SPEAKER_01: We're going down with this stuff, too.
• 1:04:08
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:04:10
  SPEAKER_01: That's who put away the woke.
• 1:04:11
  SPEAKER_01: They did it themselves, right?
• 1:04:13
  SPEAKER_01: And they're not going to bring it back.
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_01: Those Hollywood guys don't want to deal with Me Too crap anymore.
• 1:04:17
  SPEAKER_01: They don't want to deal with any of that stuff, right?
• 1:04:19
  SPEAKER_00: They're getting laid a lot less.
• 1:04:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right, right.
• 1:04:23
  SPEAKER_00: Can't get laid with Me Too. Fuck this shit.
• 1:04:25
  SPEAKER_01: The reality is that the right wing guys are giving themselves way too much credit
• 1:04:29
  SPEAKER_01: for putting away the woke, but it really wasn't them that did it.
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_01: It ran its course on the left, basically.
• 1:04:36
  SPEAKER_01: And the young leftists are nowhere near as interested.
• 1:04:39
  SPEAKER_00: Well, what do you think of a must-find Twitter, though?
• 1:04:43
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, that had to have some kind of impact where it's now you have You have
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_00: a space where you can say shit or you had a space where you can say shit
• 1:04:49
  SPEAKER_00: that was diametrically opposed.
• 1:04:52
  SPEAKER_00: But actually, no, it probably wasn't Twitter per se.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_00: It was all the guys jumping shit tech-wise when they realized,
• 1:05:04
  SPEAKER_00: oh, you guys let him buy Twitter?
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_00: Well, fuck you, we're out.
• 1:05:09
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the main problem with the Musk Twitter is
• 1:05:11
  SPEAKER_01: that the way he monetized it basically allowed third-party foreign people,
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_01: like third-worlders, to turn it into the lowest common denominator of retardation.
• 1:05:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's an unusable platform.
• 1:05:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's a slump. It's a complete slump.
• 1:05:27
  SPEAKER_01: It's a slump.
• 1:05:28
  SPEAKER_01: Because during the era of hyperwoke where you were getting banned on,
• 1:05:35
  SPEAKER_01: when you were getting banned on Twitter for being even remotely right wing
• 1:05:39
  SPEAKER_01: or taking any right wing positions,
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: the people that were commenting the most,
• 1:05:48
  SPEAKER_01: guys like Bronze Age Pervert and those guys, They, they were true, you know,
• 1:05:53
  SPEAKER_01: anarchs in the Ernst Jünger way, right?
• 1:05:56
  SPEAKER_01: They did it through camouflage and they did through intellectualism and a lot of,
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: you know, and it, it had a very high quality of shit posting, if that makes sense,
• 1:06:06
  SPEAKER_01: because the shit posting was so It had to be so obscure that it was very
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_01: in the know.
• 1:06:12
  SPEAKER_01: And once it became a free-for-all, and when everything becomes a free-for-all,
• 1:06:16
  SPEAKER_01: it became just the random people dropping the N-word and going,
• 1:06:22
  SPEAKER_01: and that kind of stuff. It was corny.
• 1:06:26
  SPEAKER_01: It was like hillbilly racism as opposed
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_01: to true deep-seated intellectual racism.
• 1:06:36
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:06:38
  SPEAKER_01: It was like, you know how like every time,
• 1:06:40
  SPEAKER_01: every comment on Substack will get like that one,
• 1:06:44
  SPEAKER_01: no PFP, four subscribers thing, zero posts.
• 1:06:49
  SPEAKER_01: Bane of my existence.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_01: Bane of my existence.
• 1:06:51
  SPEAKER_01: Calling you a Christ cuck or some kind of whatever, you know?
• 1:06:55
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, oh my God.
• 1:06:57
  SPEAKER_01: Ooh, you are so edgy, my dude. You know what I mean?
• 1:07:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm sorry, like, insta-block because it's not worth the effort.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean you're blocking me? Are you a coward?
• 1:07:05
  SPEAKER_00: No, this is the 500th time I've heard this today.
• 1:07:08
  SPEAKER_01: Right. It's like we haven't heard the same exact, like, oh, you're edgy.
• 1:07:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a kid, like, who learns how to cuss for the first time, you know?
• 1:07:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:07:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, like, my daughter loves the word bitch.
• 1:07:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's, like, her favorite word.
• 1:07:19
  SPEAKER_01: She likes to say bitch all the time.
• 1:07:20
  SPEAKER_01: And it's, like, it's cute.
• 1:07:22
  SPEAKER_00: Baby's her shitpost. Big word.
• 1:07:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's cute, but she's like eight, you know?
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, it's funny, right?
• 1:07:27
  SPEAKER_01: But it's corny when you're like a grown man, like, you know,
• 1:07:30
  SPEAKER_01: calling somebody a Christ cuck or something like that.
• 1:07:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like, oh, wow, what an intellectual you got there, you know? Yeah.
• 1:07:36
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, you know, call me like a jeet or something like that. Oh, no.
• 1:07:39
  SPEAKER_01: From your two... Tell me something I haven't heard before.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah. Please.
• 1:07:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, like, the reality of the situation is, okay, so...
• 1:07:51
  SPEAKER_01: In the comments right now, Matt 330, who I respect that much, said, now they have free reign.
• 1:07:58
  SPEAKER_01: He said that I'm hopelessly naive.
• 1:08:01
  SPEAKER_01: Try living in Colorado where things keep getting more and more vicious.
• 1:08:03
  SPEAKER_01: I know California who still sees it picking up steam.
• 1:08:05
  SPEAKER_01: We recently had false police reports filed to destroy local school board representatives.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_01: Now they have free reign to shove the rainbow in my local school district.
• 1:08:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's also the real world. Give me one second.
• 1:08:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, take a second.
• 1:08:22
  SPEAKER_01: I have to say goodnight to my daughter.
• 1:08:27
  SPEAKER_01: Look, just
• 1:08:28
  SPEAKER_01: because I support throwing chaos
• 1:08:34
  SPEAKER_01: in the Senate races doesn't mean I don't support The local school board.
• 1:08:39
  SPEAKER_01: I voted Republican on all.
• 1:08:42
  SPEAKER_01: I voted right wing and I voted for people I personally know in my area and stuff
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_01: and I'm involved in my school.
• 1:08:49
  SPEAKER_01: That is up to you.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_00: I got all that done earlier this year.
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_00: The races where I'm at, there's nothing to fucking vote for.
• 1:08:56
  SPEAKER_00: Whatever.
• 1:08:59
  SPEAKER_01: Your local city, it is up to you to go beyond that school board.
• 1:09:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay? If you think that – Like the senator from you know,
• 1:09:07
  SPEAKER_01: the Senator from from Washington DC is not going to come and trans your kid
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_01: in your school. All right? Right.
• 1:09:13
  SPEAKER_01: It is up to you to be part of the school board and make sure
• 1:09:17
  SPEAKER_01: that they're not teaching that stuff.
• 1:09:19
  SPEAKER_01: It is up to you to bring up that stuff.
• 1:09:21
  SPEAKER_01: It is up to you to keep the stuff out of your schools.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_01: It is up to you to vet the teachers.
• 1:09:28
  SPEAKER_01: If your kids' teachers are retarded shit libs or whatever, pull your fucking kid out.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I would do.
• 1:09:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you got to do what you got to do.
• 1:09:36
  SPEAKER_01: I've done it.
• 1:09:37
  SPEAKER_01: I've moved my kids to school because I didn't like the teachers.
• 1:09:42
  SPEAKER_01: I sacrificed a lot of money because originally I was paying a lot of money for a private school.
• 1:09:47
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, no, no, no.
• 1:09:48
  SPEAKER_01: It was actually the private school was very shitlibby.
• 1:09:52
  SPEAKER_01: So I moved them to a public school, which was not shitlibby.
• 1:09:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's up to us to be involved in our local area.
• 1:10:00
  SPEAKER_01: I knew that a crazy lesbian politician was running for something,
• 1:10:06
  SPEAKER_01: I would vote against them.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_01: I care about the local and I'm not saying give up on the local.
• 1:10:14
  SPEAKER_00: We've got to be the ones that do it.
• 1:10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Ultimately, you have to do it.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_01: You can't just sit around and wait for daddy senator, you know,
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Lindsey Graham or whatever to pass laws because they haven't.
• 1:10:26
  SPEAKER_01: What have they done to protect you? Yeah.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah. No, man.
• 1:10:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like this is something I'm going to be talking about in front of a bunch of people
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_00: in my town very, very, very soon.
• 1:10:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm straight up like, it is up to us.
• 1:10:38
  SPEAKER_00: And if we don't get our shit together and figure this out, I'm going to be, dude,
• 1:10:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to be talking in front of probably 30 to 40 decision makers.
• 1:10:47
  SPEAKER_00: Like where I am.
• 1:10:49
  SPEAKER_00: Guys, like I've said this before and I've talked about this,
• 1:10:51
  SPEAKER_00: but what I have coming up, legitimately prayer,
• 1:10:55
  SPEAKER_00: legitimately pray for me because this is my opportunity, man.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_00: This is my chance.
• 1:10:59
  SPEAKER_00: And it's going to be both barrels straight to the face, say, guys, this is what's going on.
• 1:11:04
  SPEAKER_00: This is what's happening.
• 1:11:05
  SPEAKER_00: And if we don't put this together and figure out the kind of things we need
• 1:11:09
  SPEAKER_00: to be doing and the kind of things we have planned, like we're fucked.
• 1:11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Our little town's going to get run the fuck over and none of this is going
• 1:11:15
  SPEAKER_00: to ever fucking matter.
• 1:11:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's real, man. I'm just saying amen.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm saying here. Right.
• 1:11:23
  SPEAKER_01: And like I said,
• 1:11:25
  SPEAKER_01: it's like we had a Congress that was completely red.
• 1:11:31
  SPEAKER_01: What laws did they pass that protected your kids? None. Nothing. Zero.
• 1:11:38
  SPEAKER_01: They couldn't even pass.
• 1:11:39
  SPEAKER_01: They even voted against the SAVE Act, which was the whole ID to vote and stuff.
• 1:11:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that not getting through, that not getting through,
• 1:11:52
  SPEAKER_00: that's enough right there to say it was all bullshit.
• 1:11:55
  SPEAKER_00: And it was overwhelmingly positive.
• 1:11:57
  SPEAKER_00: Everybody wanted it.
• 1:11:59
  SPEAKER_00: You can't get that done.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_00: Seriously, you couldn't get that done.
• 1:12:02
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:12:03
  SPEAKER_00: All right.
• 1:12:04
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, I say get involved, be part of your church, be part of your community,
• 1:12:09
  SPEAKER_01: be involved, run for city councilman if you're in a small city.
• 1:12:15
  SPEAKER_01: There's controllers, get on boards, get on school boards.
• 1:12:19
  SPEAKER_00: There's crowns laying in the gutter, guys.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_00: I might become the librarian of my high school.
• 1:12:24
  SPEAKER_00: And you know what's more important than teaching kids how to read?
• 1:12:27
  SPEAKER_00: Being the guy that buy the books that they're going to read.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_00: That's power, man.
• 1:12:33
  SPEAKER_01: Right. Exactly.
• 1:12:34
  SPEAKER_01: Be the guy that teaches.
• 1:12:35
  SPEAKER_01: And look, it's the same principle that we criticize the guys on the left for.
• 1:12:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yes. Yes. Because they actually get things done.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Well, the guys on the left, we often criticize like bleeding heart liberal types
• 1:12:46
  SPEAKER_01: as like caring about the Ugandan kids starving from the Titsi fly or whatever. Yeah.
• 1:12:52
  SPEAKER_01: And not giving a shit about the kid next door to them. Right.
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_01: You know, it's the heat chart. Right.
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah. But, but, but.
• 1:12:59
  SPEAKER_01: And we're right to criticize that mindset, right?
• 1:13:01
  SPEAKER_01: We're right to criticize the missionary
• 1:13:03
  SPEAKER_01: who spends their entire life helping out like, you know,
• 1:13:06
  SPEAKER_01: third world or some
• 1:13:07
  SPEAKER_00: everybody but their neighbor, but their neighbor, right?
• 1:13:09
  SPEAKER_01: We're right to criticize them.
• 1:13:10
  SPEAKER_01: But the same exact idea applies to us.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_01: We can't just be like, Oh, I voted for this guy.
• 1:13:17
  SPEAKER_01: So I expect this from over there from DC.
• 1:13:20
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, no.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_01: That those guys just are supposed to represent you over there.
• 1:13:25
  SPEAKER_01: But if you're not doing anything over here, they have nothing to represent.
• 1:13:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean? Right.
• 1:13:30
  SPEAKER_01: You have to give them a reason to represent you in a way, right?
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like you have to have a platform, like, or at least some,
• 1:13:35
  SPEAKER_01: you have to be doing something if you want, right?
• 1:13:38
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, like I said, I'm okay with you being, not doing it,
• 1:13:41
  SPEAKER_01: but you gotta be kind of shut up about it, you know?
• 1:13:43
  SPEAKER_01: But like I said, if you're, if you're afraid of your school, you know,
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_01: doing this kind of stuff, then get on your school board.
• 1:13:47
  SPEAKER_00: If you need to go, like, you know where they live? Right.
• 1:13:51
  SPEAKER_01: Get together with other, get together.
• 1:13:52
  SPEAKER_01: Other parents are people too, right?
• 1:13:54
  SPEAKER_01: And the reality is if all the other parents in your neighborhood are okay
• 1:13:59
  SPEAKER_01: with transing your kids in school, well, you know what?
• 1:14:01
  SPEAKER_01: You're probably living in the wrong neighborhood, my dude, you know, and it sucks,
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_01: but that's the reality of the situation, right?
• 1:14:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's, you just got to move, you know?
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_01: And It comes down to like, are you doing stuff for me?
• 1:14:17
  SPEAKER_01: And am I going to support you just because you have a red hat on?
• 1:14:20
  SPEAKER_01: Or am I going to support you?
• 1:14:21
  SPEAKER_01: Like in my case, right?
• 1:14:23
  SPEAKER_01: If you guys read the stuff, I voted for Annie Andrews, right?
• 1:14:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I voted for her specifically for two reasons.
• 1:14:31
  SPEAKER_01: She wants, you know, political, you know,
• 1:14:34
  SPEAKER_01: Senate oversight of any military actions because she does not want us, you know,
• 1:14:39
  SPEAKER_01: at least she says, right?
• 1:14:40
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not saying that's going to happen, but, you know, she does not want any direct,
• 1:14:45
  SPEAKER_01: you know, like, like direct, like, you know,
• 1:14:47
  SPEAKER_01: forever wars again without Congress authorization.
• 1:14:50
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, imagine, imagine,
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_00: imagine Congress executing its enumerated powers regarding war and peace.
• 1:14:57
  SPEAKER_00: Imagine, That's what I want.
• 1:14:59
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what she wants. That's it.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_00: And that's what she wants.
• 1:15:01
  SPEAKER_01: And then the other thing, the other thing that was a very big deal to me, right,
• 1:15:07
  SPEAKER_01: was that she was against data centers, right?
• 1:15:13
  SPEAKER_01: And you guys know, I'm not a fan of AI.
• 1:15:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's like the most evil thing ever.
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't think it's AI, really.
• 1:15:20
  SPEAKER_01: I don't consider it AI.
• 1:15:22
  SPEAKER_01: But I do think that the whole thing is a scam.
• 1:15:25
  SPEAKER_01: I think that the whole The whole scam with AI and the whole pump
• 1:15:31
  SPEAKER_01: and dump stock thing that they're doing with like, you know,
• 1:15:33
  SPEAKER_01: chat GTP and all that stuff.
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's done by really creepy,
• 1:15:38
  SPEAKER_01: sinister people and they are environmentally They try
• 1:15:45
  SPEAKER_01: to put these data centers in the most rural,
• 1:15:48
  SPEAKER_01: beautiful places like in South Carolina and in Georgia where they're trying
• 1:15:52
  SPEAKER_01: to put these disgusting, polluting data centers that destroy the environment.
• 1:15:59
  SPEAKER_01: Completely destroy the local communities and suck electricity and basically raise
• 1:16:04
  SPEAKER_01: the rates to like ludicrous amounts.
• 1:16:06
  SPEAKER_01: You know, you've got that guy Altman saying that, you know,
• 1:16:09
  SPEAKER_01: he doesn't want us owning Ram and that kind of stuff.
• 1:16:11
  SPEAKER_01: You know, these guys are my enemies.
• 1:16:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, these guys are my enemies.
• 1:16:16
  SPEAKER_01: Put that dude in the dirt.
• 1:16:18
  SPEAKER_01: The red hat that was running wanted to basically approve every, you know,
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_01: basically turn South Carolina into a goddamn data center state.
• 1:16:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't want that.
• 1:16:27
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want a data center in my beautiful swamp. Okay.
• 1:16:30
  SPEAKER_01: I love my, my, my beautiful environment that I live here I want it to stay that way.
• 1:16:35
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want these small communities to be brought in by a bunch
• 1:16:38
  SPEAKER_01: of foreign H-1B visa workers to basically suck the place dry,
• 1:16:43
  SPEAKER_01: destroy our infrastructure, raise our electricity rates or power rates
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_01: to like ludicrous amounts and bringing all this money that we're not going
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_01: to get access to because I'm not going to get any money.
• 1:16:55
  SPEAKER_01: Nobody's going to get, none of the locals are going to get anything from it.
• 1:16:59
  SPEAKER_01: It's the contractors and stuff. And that's exactly it.
• 1:17:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's It's just basically a scam to suck the middle class to keep the boomers going
• 1:17:08
  SPEAKER_01: as they avert insolvency for a few more years so they can go on an extra cruise.
• 1:17:13
  SPEAKER_01: That's all it was.
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_01: So no, I'm not going to vote for that.
• 1:17:16
  SPEAKER_01: So people say like, oh, I voted for my enemy. No, no, I did not.
• 1:17:19
  SPEAKER_01: The enemy was the person that wants to bring data centers and destroy my community.
• 1:17:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's who's my enemy.
• 1:17:24
  SPEAKER_01: And the ironic ludicrous of it is,
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you guys like I don't know how it is in different states,
• 1:17:32
  SPEAKER_01: but South Carolina had some of the most atrocious telecom campaign ads
• 1:17:39
  SPEAKER_01: and YouTube campaign ads that were so bad this year.
• 1:17:42
  SPEAKER_01: And they're always like, Annie Andrews wants to trans your kids.
• 1:17:46
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, come on.
• 1:17:47
  SPEAKER_01: Come on, guys.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_01: And then you look at her platform, and she's not even doing any of that.
• 1:17:53
  SPEAKER_01: And she never supported that.
• 1:17:55
  SPEAKER_01: And she actually supported not that.
• 1:17:57
  SPEAKER_01: Doing any type of transgender affirmation care for young children.
• 1:18:01
  SPEAKER_00: One of my students was talking about all the ads.
• 1:18:07
  SPEAKER_00: They were talking about all the political ads.
• 1:18:09
  SPEAKER_00: And he goes, all they're doing is saying, don't vote for this guy.
• 1:18:14
  SPEAKER_00: Don't vote for this guy. Don't vote for this guy. Don't vote for this guy.
• 1:18:16
  SPEAKER_00: And he's like, so I guess we're just not supposed to vote.
• 1:18:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right, because it's like, oh my God.
• 1:18:22
  SPEAKER_00: I was like my man.
• 1:18:24
  SPEAKER_00: Don't work for this guy.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_01: He's going to trans your kids and he's going to resurrect Karl Marx
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_01: in your neighborhood and all this stuff.
• 1:18:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's going feed your trans kid to Karl Marx.
• 1:18:36
  SPEAKER_01: He's going to feed your trans kids to Karl Marx or whatever.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_01: But we're going to bring data centers and basically impoverish you
• 1:18:45
  SPEAKER_01: and suck all your taxpayer money so we can give it to boomers so they can go
• 1:18:49
  SPEAKER_01: on their seventh cruise this year before they reverse mortgage their house
• 1:18:53
  SPEAKER_01: for the fifth time.
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_01: Before they croak.
• 1:18:56
  SPEAKER_01: I'm sorry, my dudes, but that's a practical thing.
• 1:18:59
  SPEAKER_00: If Sam Altman takes all of the boomers' ram, I'm fine with that.
• 1:19:05
  SPEAKER_00: He can take their ram.
• 1:19:06
  SPEAKER_01: To me, if there is a white, like, you know, in a way, I'm not blackpilling on this.
• 1:19:13
  SPEAKER_01: I think that from a practical political standpoint, right, I think that I hope,
• 1:19:20
  SPEAKER_01: I hope that, and I have a little bit of hope,
• 1:19:22
  SPEAKER_01: I have a little bit of a white pill with Vance's comments today,
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_01: that I hope that They realize that we're not playing the boomer game anymore.
• 1:19:32
  SPEAKER_01: Just because you slap lipstick on a pig, you slap a mega hat on a pig,
• 1:19:36
  SPEAKER_01: we're not there for that, my dudes. We need results.
• 1:19:39
  SPEAKER_01: We need actual results.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_01: They've got two years to do it.
• 1:19:45
  SPEAKER_01: You want young millennials, you want millennials, you want Gen Zers to support your shit.
• 1:19:49
  SPEAKER_01: You better give us some goddamn results because the other side has results for their people.
• 1:19:56
  SPEAKER_01: All right. And that's just the reality of the situation. All right.
• 1:20:00
  SPEAKER_01: Those guys are getting results for their people and people want, people want to win.
• 1:20:04
  SPEAKER_01: People want to be on the winning side.
• 1:20:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's important to realize that.
• 1:20:10
  SPEAKER_01: But our side is polluted with guys like Dreher and stuff.
• 1:20:16
  SPEAKER_00: We're like, oh, we lost because we weren't polite enough or something like that.
• 1:20:22
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, I'm sorry, dude.
• 1:20:23
  SPEAKER_01: I hate you.
• 1:20:25
  SPEAKER_01: You're completely wrong about everything. I hate you. I hate you. I hate you.
• 1:20:29
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 1:20:31
  SPEAKER_01: So ultimately, the position
• 1:20:35
  SPEAKER_01: Is we are anarchs here, okay?
• 1:20:40
  SPEAKER_01: I think that I do not have any ideology, all right?
• 1:20:44
  SPEAKER_01: My ideology, if I have any, is that I believe that I am going to try my best to be sovereign.
• 1:20:49
  SPEAKER_01: Maybe it's my Eastern European-ness, you know, where I was born under communism.
• 1:20:53
  SPEAKER_01: But the reality is my life is going to go on if I live under a communist dictator
• 1:20:59
  SPEAKER_01: or if I live under a fascist totalitarian, if I live under a Chinese occupation,
• 1:21:04
  SPEAKER_01: or if I live under whatever the fuck we live under right now, all right?
• 1:21:09
  SPEAKER_01: What I care about is can I put groceries in my grocery bag?
• 1:21:12
  SPEAKER_01: Can I get a job?
• 1:21:14
  SPEAKER_01: And can I support, you know, can I have a place to live?
• 1:21:16
  SPEAKER_01: That's really what really matters to me, right?
• 1:21:19
  SPEAKER_01: And what really matters to me is truly my sovereign spiritual self, right?
• 1:21:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right, because that's the only thing you're taking with your brother.
• 1:21:29
  SPEAKER_01: That's the only thing that matters.
• 1:21:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I don't need anything but that.
• 1:21:33
  SPEAKER_01: I can be a sovereign individual in the pit of hell, basically.
• 1:21:40
  SPEAKER_01: You can throw me in a prison.
• 1:21:41
  SPEAKER_01: You don't like practice for that, isn't it?
• 1:21:44
  SPEAKER_01: You can throw me in a pit of doom and despair in a prison somewhere
• 1:21:49
  SPEAKER_01: and I will try my best to retain my true artistic spirit.
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_01: And that's really what matters.
• 1:21:54
  SPEAKER_01: Not ideology, not teams, not funny hats, not uniforms,
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_01: not theology or anything like that, right?
• 1:22:02
  SPEAKER_01: That's what matters, right?
• 1:22:03
  SPEAKER_01: Your own individual sovereignty, okay?
• 1:22:07
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's all it is, right?
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_01: To quote Junger, right?
• 1:22:11
  SPEAKER_01: The anarchist is a militant, right? And that's what the left is.
• 1:22:15
  SPEAKER_01: They're militants, right? But some of the right are also militants, right?
• 1:22:18
  SPEAKER_01: The anarch is a neutral.
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_01: The anarchist wants to change society.
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_01: The anarch wants to survive it.
• 1:22:23
  SPEAKER_01: The anarchist is the antagonist of the monarch.
• 1:22:26
  SPEAKER_01: The anarch is the counterpart, right?
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_01: The anarch is a monarch of his own world, all right?
• 1:22:32
  SPEAKER_01: That's what you need to be.
• 1:22:34
  SPEAKER_01: You need to be an individual, right?
• 1:22:36
  SPEAKER_01: That's key.
• 1:22:37
  SPEAKER_01: But you have to realize that No matter what side wins, it's the same thing.
• 1:22:44
  SPEAKER_01: Ideologies come and go.
• 1:22:45
  SPEAKER_01: Empires are built and they crumble.
• 1:22:48
  SPEAKER_01: Chaos and an order come and go.
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_01: We have survived for thousands of years and we will survive for thousands more
• 1:22:57
  SPEAKER_01: until Christ comes down and freezes up this world.
• 1:23:01
  SPEAKER_01: Do you know what I mean?
• 1:23:03
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, it's like...
• 1:23:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's just the reality of it.
• 1:23:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, you know, we have to be chameleons in this world, right?
• 1:23:11
  SPEAKER_01: We have to live and we have to smile and nod and we have to go along
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_01: with things sometimes that suck that we don't agree with.
• 1:23:18
  SPEAKER_01: And we have to look out for ourselves.
• 1:23:19
  SPEAKER_01: We have to look out for the people that we love.
• 1:23:21
  SPEAKER_01: And that's just the reality of the situation.
• 1:23:23
  SPEAKER_01: And you're not going to be judged in the end by what you voted
• 1:23:27
  SPEAKER_01: for or what ideology you supported.
• 1:23:30
  SPEAKER_01: You're going to be judged by, by, you know, by your spirit, by how were you,
• 1:23:35
  SPEAKER_01: were you true to yourself, right?
• 1:23:37
  SPEAKER_01: To the, you know, the reality of the true reality of the universe.
• 1:23:41
  SPEAKER_01: And that's, that's the key, man.
• 1:23:43
  SPEAKER_01: You have to be a, you have to be a Basically,
• 1:23:47
  SPEAKER_01: an objective observer to the situation.
• 1:23:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I started this whole thing, right?
• 1:23:58
  SPEAKER_01: I started this with talking about, you know, Cyberpunk.
• 1:24:00
  SPEAKER_01: We were joking about Cyberpunk, Edgerunner Season 2.
• 1:24:03
  SPEAKER_01: And the reason is, and we're going to go into it on the next episode.
• 1:24:07
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to do a full kind of like talk through of that.
• 1:24:10
  SPEAKER_01: But I highly recommend you guys read up on Junger's Anarch.
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_01: And compare it to his idea of the anarchist, which is his earlier kind of idea,
• 1:24:20
  SPEAKER_01: which is the forest rebel.
• 1:24:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because if you watch edge runner season two, it is one of the best examples, right?
• 1:24:29
  SPEAKER_01: Of what I mean by the anarch,
• 1:24:31
  SPEAKER_01: which is the like completely unobjective Uninvolved,
• 1:24:36
  SPEAKER_01: observant to the crazy situation that stays true to himself.
• 1:24:41
  SPEAKER_01: And that's actually the main character of Edgerunner season two,
• 1:24:45
  SPEAKER_01: who is an observant and he observes through the video camera and he does that.
• 1:24:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know, for you guys that haven't seen it, I highly recommend you do watch it, right?
• 1:24:56
  SPEAKER_01: But it compares and contrasts two very interesting characters.
• 1:25:01
  SPEAKER_01: One is Dee, who...
• 1:25:04
  SPEAKER_01: It would fit into the example of the anarchist, right?
• 1:25:08
  SPEAKER_01: And Roman, who is the anarch.
• 1:25:11
  SPEAKER_01: And D is consumed by external ideology.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_01: He's consumed by this complete and total drive for revenge,
• 1:25:23
  SPEAKER_01: for killing the people that hurt him and hurt his family.
• 1:25:27
  SPEAKER_01: But he is consumed beyond that.
• 1:25:30
  SPEAKER_01: And he is part of the system, right?
• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_01: He is fully part of the system because as he becomes more and more consumed
• 1:25:42
  SPEAKER_01: by his anarchism, his chaos and his violence,
• 1:25:46
  SPEAKER_01: he becomes more and more of a slave to the very things that destroyed his life,
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_01: right?
• 1:25:53
  SPEAKER_01: Like the irony of it is that if you watch the show, his entire tribe,
• 1:25:58
  SPEAKER_01: his entire clan of nomads was murdered because they were looking for him
• 1:26:03
  SPEAKER_01: and they were looking for him to use him as a test subject for a neurochip that had
• 1:26:08
  SPEAKER_01: an AI on it called, what was it called? Capri, right?
• 1:26:12
  SPEAKER_01: The Capricorn AI.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he became so consumed with his revenge.
• 1:26:17
  SPEAKER_01: That he actually chipped the damn thing that they were trying to chip him in the first place.
• 1:26:22
  SPEAKER_01: He became in his revenge.
• 1:26:24
  SPEAKER_01: He became what they were trying to make him by killing all his family. Right.
• 1:26:31
  SPEAKER_01: And now that's the irony of it. Right.
• 1:26:33
  SPEAKER_01: He gave up sovereignty.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_01: For revenge and got none of it because none of it mattered in the end.
• 1:26:40
  SPEAKER_01: It was just self-destruction.
• 1:26:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I see that in people who get consumed by ideology,
• 1:26:45
  SPEAKER_01: whether it's communism or fascism or even liberal democracy and sides and stuff.
• 1:26:51
  SPEAKER_01: They become consumed by trying to hurt the other side or being obsessed with sides
• 1:26:57
  SPEAKER_01: and that kind of stuff.
• 1:26:58
  SPEAKER_01: And they become no different Then the things that they're trying to consume
• 1:27:03
  SPEAKER_01: and it's foolish insanity and it's soul killing and that's exactly what
• 1:27:06
  SPEAKER_01: the character does and you contrast them to Roman
• 1:27:10
  SPEAKER_01: and Roman is basically he rejects
• 1:27:16
  SPEAKER_01: The modern world.
• 1:27:17
  SPEAKER_01: He's a character that lives in the modern world.
• 1:27:20
  SPEAKER_01: And when I say the modern world,
• 1:27:21
  SPEAKER_01: I mean the cyberpunk contemporary world of Night City, but he rejects Night City.
• 1:27:26
  SPEAKER_01: He specifically is an artist who is focused on an anachronistic way of art, right?
• 1:27:33
  SPEAKER_01: Which is he uses a video camera, an old video camera to actually make movies.
• 1:27:39
  SPEAKER_01: And he rejects the brain dance chips that are the main entertainment product, right?
• 1:27:45
  SPEAKER_01: And the brain dance chips, if you guys aren't familiar with the setting, is,
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_01: you know, you stick it into your head and it basically hallucinates for you.
• 1:27:52
  SPEAKER_01: You have a, you live through somebody else's hallucinations. All right.
• 1:27:57
  SPEAKER_01: Well, he rejects that because he says that those aren't real, that that's not the real thing.
• 1:28:01
  SPEAKER_01: And a movie filmed, like a documentary film is a lot more real because it captures
• 1:28:06
  SPEAKER_01: the real feelings in the world, right?
• 1:28:09
  SPEAKER_01: It captures the real truth.
• 1:28:10
  SPEAKER_01: And the show does this fantastic thing where his entire point of view is
• 1:28:16
  SPEAKER_01: through the lens of his camera, which is an old, like, um, You know,
• 1:28:21
  SPEAKER_01: it's a 35 millimeter camera.
• 1:28:23
  SPEAKER_01: And when you see his viewpoint,
• 1:28:25
  SPEAKER_01: the screen actually shrinks to the aspect ratio of a video,
• 1:28:28
  SPEAKER_01: like a VHS kind of video camera.
• 1:28:31
  SPEAKER_01: And the colors are more real.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_01: They're more true to life than the colors you see from the point of D,
• 1:28:38
  SPEAKER_01: who has subsumed his life to the technology of the current world.
• 1:28:43
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he basically like, really, he...
• 1:28:46
  SPEAKER_01: Turned himself into the monster that they were trying to make him, while Roman refused that.
• 1:28:51
  SPEAKER_01: He remained sovereign to his true beliefs, and he was able to capture the truth,
• 1:28:57
  SPEAKER_01: which was much more important.
• 1:28:59
  SPEAKER_01: He was able, like, if you watch the first few episodes, he captures the truth of Dee, right?
• 1:29:04
  SPEAKER_01: He captures him smiling.
• 1:29:05
  SPEAKER_01: He captures him laughing.
• 1:29:07
  SPEAKER_01: He captures the sun, you know, on Night City, and he captures...
• 1:29:12
  SPEAKER_01: He captures the real version, the true version of Talia,
• 1:29:17
  SPEAKER_01: a girl that tries to escape reality by mutilating her body with technology.
• 1:29:24
  SPEAKER_01: He was able to capture her true self with his true technology by rejecting,
• 1:29:31
  SPEAKER_01: by being an observant, by rejecting it.
• 1:29:34
  SPEAKER_01: He's the most interesting character because he has no cyberware.
• 1:29:38
  SPEAKER_01: He rejects the the the self-abuse
• 1:29:43
  SPEAKER_01: of the world of technology all right he uh
• 1:29:46
  SPEAKER_01: and he remains detached he's an observant right meanwhile d the anarchist goes
• 1:29:53
  SPEAKER_01: on a self-destructive spree and he gets joined by I forgot the name of the character
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_01: the rich girl that gives him all the money and stuff right yeah
• 1:30:02
  SPEAKER_00: who Average Substack Void.
• 1:30:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right, exactly.
• 1:30:06
  SPEAKER_01: The average Substack Void, right?
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_01: Who also is a pure anarchist who just wants chaos.
• 1:30:13
  SPEAKER_00: She just wants chaos and revenge.
• 1:30:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, doing it for the dopamine.
• 1:30:17
  SPEAKER_01: Doing for the dopamine and for resentment.
• 1:30:19
  SPEAKER_01: She's resentful against the corporations and she wants to cause pain and she wants
• 1:30:23
  SPEAKER_01: to cause violence.
• 1:30:24
  SPEAKER_01: And she's literally giving him money and egging him on to murder people
• 1:30:28
  SPEAKER_01: that are not even connected to the initial crime committed against him.
• 1:30:32
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean? Yeah.
• 1:30:35
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the self-destruction of taking the path of ideology versus taking
• 1:30:39
  SPEAKER_01: the path of the Anarch.
• 1:30:42
  SPEAKER_01: And I guess you can compare the Anarch
• 1:30:45
  SPEAKER_01: to Evola's aristocrat of the soul who writes the title.
• 1:30:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's a very similar kind of concept for guys familiar with that.
• 1:30:55
  SPEAKER_01: But that's the idea.
• 1:30:56
  SPEAKER_01: But I highly recommend rooting up on Junger's Anarch and then watching Edgerunners
• 1:31:01
  SPEAKER_01: because that is a fantastic episode.
• 1:31:02
  SPEAKER_01: Because out of all the people, this character Roman, this young kid Roman,
• 1:31:09
  SPEAKER_01: remains true to himself.
• 1:31:10
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't mutilate himself with cyberware.
• 1:31:12
  SPEAKER_01: He doesn't join the society itself.
• 1:31:16
  SPEAKER_01: That destroys him, but he doesn't exit it either.
• 1:31:19
  SPEAKER_01: He's part of the society, but he is a sovereign man in the world, basically.
• 1:31:25
  SPEAKER_01: He's not of the world because he rejects it, but he's still in the reality of the world.
• 1:31:32
  SPEAKER_01: He has no illusions.
• 1:31:34
  SPEAKER_01: He's not going to bring down Arasaka.
• 1:31:36
  SPEAKER_01: He's not going to fix Night City.
• 1:31:39
  SPEAKER_01: He's just going to be truthful.
• 1:31:40
  SPEAKER_01: He's going to show the reality of the world through his camera, through his artwork, you know?
• 1:31:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm thinking, I was thinking like, you know,
• 1:31:48
  SPEAKER_01: what are some of the artists that I love and respect
• 1:31:52
  SPEAKER_01: that also would be great examples of the Anarch?
• 1:31:55
  SPEAKER_01: And my number one choice, I was thinking earlier before we started, is Andrei Tarkovsky.
• 1:32:01
  SPEAKER_01: Andrei Tarkovsky, the Soviet film director
• 1:32:05
  SPEAKER_01: who did Stalker and Andrei Rubilev, right?
• 1:32:09
  SPEAKER_01: This was a man that made some of the greatest movies
• 1:32:13
  SPEAKER_01: of the 20th century in Under Soviet rule.
• 1:32:17
  SPEAKER_01: And he did not make propaganda films for the Soviets.
• 1:32:21
  SPEAKER_01: He made artwork that transcended That was...that transcended the USSR.
• 1:32:25
  SPEAKER_01: It transcended just the East-West divide.
• 1:32:30
  SPEAKER_01: He made movies that were true.
• 1:32:32
  SPEAKER_01: And he was untouchable because of that.
• 1:32:35
  SPEAKER_01: He never pandered and he was allowed to do
• 1:32:37
  SPEAKER_01: that because his work transcended these ideological ideals.
• 1:32:43
  SPEAKER_01: He didn't make movies about the glory of the Soviet Union.
• 1:32:45
  SPEAKER_01: No, he made movies about Christianity during the most atheist time in the history of the world.
• 1:32:51
  SPEAKER_01: And he made some of the greatest Christian movies unmatched.
• 1:32:55
  SPEAKER_01: Andrei Rubilev as a Christian movie is unmatched by anything created
• 1:33:00
  SPEAKER_01: as a Christian movie in the West.
• 1:33:02
  SPEAKER_01: The only thing that comes close is Mel Gibson's The Passion of Christ.
• 1:33:06
  SPEAKER_01: But even that does not come close to Andrei Rubilev.
• 1:33:10
  SPEAKER_01: And he did that under Soviet dictatorship. All right?
• 1:33:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:33:16
  SPEAKER_01: Because he remained true.
• 1:33:17
  SPEAKER_01: He remained true to his beliefs.
• 1:33:19
  SPEAKER_01: And he was a chameleon.
• 1:33:21
  SPEAKER_01: He stayed on the down low.
• 1:33:24
  SPEAKER_01: He played the game.
• 1:33:26
  SPEAKER_01: But the whole time, he remained true.
• 1:33:28
  SPEAKER_01: And you see pictures of him with icons on the wall and all this stuff.
• 1:33:33
  SPEAKER_01: That's what the true anarch is,
• 1:33:36
  SPEAKER_01: is that we realize that we don't choose the times we live in, my dudes,
• 1:33:41
  SPEAKER_01: to quote Gandalf, right?
• 1:33:42
  SPEAKER_01: We don't choose them.
• 1:33:45
  SPEAKER_01: But what we do choose is how we react to our times.
• 1:33:49
  SPEAKER_01: And it is foolish and stupid to lash out and destroy ourselves.
• 1:33:56
  SPEAKER_01: It is foolish.
• 1:33:57
  SPEAKER_01: It is foolish for young men to join ideological parties
• 1:34:03
  SPEAKER_01: and go after their nonsense
• 1:34:05
  SPEAKER_01: for old men that will abandon you like they have time and time again
• 1:34:10
  SPEAKER_01: in our own political system.
• 1:34:12
  SPEAKER_01: How many young men I think it was John Carter wrote a great article today
• 1:34:18
  SPEAKER_01: where he talked about how many young men in the last 10 years
• 1:34:22
  SPEAKER_01: and women went out there and supported Trump and all that stuff
• 1:34:27
  SPEAKER_01: and they got nothing out of it.
• 1:34:29
  SPEAKER_01: And they didn't get jobs, they didn't get preferential treatment, they didn't get anything.
• 1:34:34
  SPEAKER_01: They were time and time again turned away and replaced
• 1:34:39
  SPEAKER_01: by con men and by slime lords
• 1:34:43
  SPEAKER_01: and profiteers.
• 1:34:44
  SPEAKER_01: The right wing loves to promote
• 1:34:48
  SPEAKER_01: the next OnlyFans turned Christian girl every single time.
• 1:34:52
  SPEAKER_01: They'll never take the The smart intellectual, like, you know,
• 1:34:57
  SPEAKER_01: Christian girl writing Substacks and promote her. Oh, no, no, no.
• 1:34:59
  SPEAKER_01: They're only going to, they're only, you know,
• 1:35:01
  SPEAKER_01: every three months we have a brand new OnlyFans girl gone good, you know,
• 1:35:05
  SPEAKER_01: that the right promotes, right?
• 1:35:08
  SPEAKER_01: That's who gets the stuff.
• 1:35:10
  SPEAKER_01: So do not destroy yourselves by putting yourselves out as foot soldiers
• 1:35:14
  SPEAKER_01: when there's no pay, when there's nothing for you, when there's nothing.
• 1:35:17
  SPEAKER_01: Take care of yourself. Take care of the people around you.
• 1:35:19
  SPEAKER_01: Take care of the things that matter and realize that Times come and go,
• 1:35:24
  SPEAKER_01: empires change, and you will survive if you are true to yourself, all right?
• 1:35:30
  SPEAKER_01: What do you think about that?
• 1:35:32
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's it.
• 1:35:34
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just my own thoughts as you were speaking.
• 1:35:42
  SPEAKER_00: I think of, I think it was what, Archimedes?
• 1:35:46
  SPEAKER_00: Just don't disturb my circles. Leave me alone.
• 1:35:50
  SPEAKER_00: Like I want to, I want to go through the explorations I want to do.
• 1:35:53
  SPEAKER_00: I want to do what it is I'm supposed to do.
• 1:35:55
  SPEAKER_00: I want to be, I want to be equal.
• 1:35:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm supposed to be.
• 1:35:58
  SPEAKER_00: And, and all this bullshit.
• 1:36:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like I was telling some students today, we were talking about this stuff.
• 1:36:03
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, guys, I'm tired of this stuff.
• 1:36:05
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to do this every couple of years.
• 1:36:07
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I'm, I'm already not looking forward to 2028 and it's fine. It's fine.
• 1:36:12
  SPEAKER_00: It's fine.
• 1:36:14
  SPEAKER_00: Because I'll remain true to myself the best I can.
• 1:36:18
  SPEAKER_00: And It's worked out so far.
• 1:36:21
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
• 1:36:25
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 1:36:25
  SPEAKER_00: So, yeah.
• 1:36:27
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and that's kind of the thing.
• 1:36:28
  SPEAKER_01: It's like while today I think we had fun talking about the politics, ultimately,
• 1:36:34
  SPEAKER_01: this is just entertainment.
• 1:36:35
  SPEAKER_01: We're in a way having a good time.
• 1:36:37
  SPEAKER_01: We're observing, okay? We're observing.
• 1:36:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, everything's entertainment. Everything is sales.
• 1:36:41
  SPEAKER_00: Everything is advertising.
• 1:36:42
  SPEAKER_00: Everything is propaganda.
• 1:36:44
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, just think of any event.
• 1:36:47
  SPEAKER_00: Think of any event in the past six months.
• 1:36:50
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:36:51
  SPEAKER_00: Forgotten. Forgotten.
• 1:36:52
  SPEAKER_00: All of it is a product. Everything is a product.
• 1:36:54
  SPEAKER_00: Everything is a product for somebody. Right.
• 1:36:56
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, like...
• 1:36:58
  SPEAKER_00: You really start to see this thing, like, for example,
• 1:37:01
  SPEAKER_00: not because I necessarily want to talk about it, but, like,
• 1:37:03
  SPEAKER_00: Netflix having a documentary ready to go about stuff related to the Cornell case.
• 1:37:10
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's all fucking bullshit.
• 1:37:11
  SPEAKER_00: All of it's fucking bullshit.
• 1:37:12
  SPEAKER_00: Right, right.
• 1:37:13
  SPEAKER_00: This is, like, it reminds me of computer.
• 1:37:16
  SPEAKER_00: It reminds me of, like, computer games a while back
• 1:37:18
  SPEAKER_00: when they first started coming out with, like, alternate reality games and, like,
• 1:37:21
  SPEAKER_00: it was, like, a way to, like, you know, bring the game into your real life.
• 1:37:25
  SPEAKER_00: Like, Pokemon Go.
• 1:37:26
  SPEAKER_00: It's all Pokemon Go now.
• 1:37:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's all Pokemon Go.
• 1:37:29
  SPEAKER_00: And we're all playing this game inside reality. Right. Fuck it.
• 1:37:33
  SPEAKER_01: We're just brain dancing, man.
• 1:37:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's just brain dances.
• 1:37:36
  SPEAKER_01: And you know what?
• 1:37:38
  SPEAKER_00: People are going cyberpsycho.
• 1:37:39
  SPEAKER_00: People are legitimately going cyberpsycho.
• 1:37:42
  SPEAKER_00: And guys like Roman, are they able to compete?
• 1:37:47
  SPEAKER_00: Are they able to be like V and actually take down Arasaka and actually do damage?
• 1:37:52
  SPEAKER_00: No. But they're going to keep their soul.
• 1:37:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, there's, there's one happy ending at the end of cyberpunk and it's be dying
• 1:37:59
  SPEAKER_00: in three months.
• 1:38:00
  SPEAKER_00: That's the happy ending. Right.
• 1:38:03
  SPEAKER_01: Well, and the truth is that the truth is, and you know, you'll see,
• 1:38:08
  SPEAKER_01: you'll see when you finish edge runners, right? Yeah.
• 1:38:11
  SPEAKER_01: Is that you can't take down Arasaka because Arasaka doesn't, doesn't think,
• 1:38:18
  SPEAKER_01: you know, it's the world, man. It's the world. Exactly.
• 1:38:22
  SPEAKER_00: Expression of the world.
• 1:38:23
  SPEAKER_00: If it's not Arisaka, it'll be Militech.
• 1:38:25
  SPEAKER_00: If it's not Militech, it'll be Kang Tao. It's not Kang Tao.
• 1:38:28
  SPEAKER_00: It'll be some other motherfucker.
• 1:38:29
  SPEAKER_01: Exactly. That's all the same shit, man.
• 1:38:31
  SPEAKER_01: You can kill every single corporate head of Arisaka like D tries to do, and it doesn't matter.
• 1:38:37
  SPEAKER_00: That is something that was making me laugh.
• 1:38:41
  SPEAKER_00: D is doing all the shit, and it's not doing anything. It doesn't matter.
• 1:38:45
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't matter. It's like Arisaka doesn't even notice.
• 1:38:48
  SPEAKER_01: Arisako doesn't even have the chip anymore.
• 1:38:50
  SPEAKER_01: Kang Tao has it.
• 1:38:52
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
• 1:38:53
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the irony of it.
• 1:38:54
  SPEAKER_01: That's the irony about that episode where he finally gets that corporal girl,
• 1:39:00
  SPEAKER_01: that corporal woman that tells him the truth.
• 1:39:02
  SPEAKER_01: She goes, it doesn't matter.
• 1:39:04
  SPEAKER_01: They killed your family for no reason.
• 1:39:06
  SPEAKER_01: They just did because they could.
• 1:39:07
  SPEAKER_01: It was an accident.
• 1:39:09
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't even want him.
• 1:39:10
  SPEAKER_01: We didn't even wanted to kill him.
• 1:39:11
  SPEAKER_01: It was a mission that went out of control because the people we hired were dumbasses.
• 1:39:17
  SPEAKER_01: We had nothing to do with it.
• 1:39:18
  SPEAKER_00: We accidentally ran you over.
• 1:39:19
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:39:21
  SPEAKER_00: Literally a squirrel in the road getting squashed by a tiny truck.
• 1:39:24
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:39:25
  SPEAKER_01: And that's how the world works, my dudes. You know what I mean?
• 1:39:28
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the reality of it.
• 1:39:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, that's even better because the nomads, man, they're nomads.
• 1:39:33
  SPEAKER_00: Roadkill.
• 1:39:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:39:37
  SPEAKER_01: That's how it is.
• 1:39:38
  SPEAKER_01: And the best thing you can do is just avoid it and be true to yourself.
• 1:39:41
  SPEAKER_01: And what matters in the end is the connection between people, the smiles,
• 1:39:48
  SPEAKER_01: the sun rising on you, that kind of stuff.
• 1:39:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that's where we need to do is we need to basically...
• 1:39:56
  SPEAKER_01: You know, refocus ourselves and focus on art.
• 1:39:59
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm not talking about like propaganda art, right?
• 1:40:02
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, no.
• 1:40:03
  SPEAKER_01: I'm talking about true art.
• 1:40:04
  SPEAKER_01: True art that's not part of a community or, you know,
• 1:40:08
  SPEAKER_01: the most disgusting thing to me is those like- The editor's community?
• 1:40:11
  SPEAKER_00: No, fuck off.
• 1:40:13
  SPEAKER_01: The most disgusting thing to me is those writers that write for publishing,
• 1:40:17
  SPEAKER_01: for the publishing companies.
• 1:40:19
  SPEAKER_01: They try to find the trends and stuff.
• 1:40:22
  SPEAKER_01: That's just brain dances.
• 1:40:23
  SPEAKER_01: That's just disgusting.
• 1:40:26
  SPEAKER_01: You create your art because you love your art.
• 1:40:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a transcendental inside that must come out.
• 1:40:32
  SPEAKER_01: Create your art for yourself.
• 1:40:36
  SPEAKER_01: Create it in your apartment just for yourself, just to do it.
• 1:40:40
  SPEAKER_01: Because in a way, the actual product doesn't matter.
• 1:40:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's the creation itself that matters for your own spiritual, your soul.
• 1:40:48
  SPEAKER_01: Your sovereign soul matters.
• 1:40:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's the creation.
• 1:40:51
  SPEAKER_01: It's the self-creation.
• 1:40:53
  SPEAKER_01: You know, keeping yourself as a individual and expressing yourself properly,
• 1:40:58
  SPEAKER_01: that matters more than getting paid for it.
• 1:41:01
  SPEAKER_01: Or, you know, people go, oh, you know, the publishing world has shut down white dudes.
• 1:41:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it has. I know that, you know?
• 1:41:09
  SPEAKER_00: Is it, is it, is it, is it the Telos, the creator creates, the creator creates the creation.
• 1:41:15
  SPEAKER_00: So the creation creates more creations.
• 1:41:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right. Right. There it is. That's what it is.
• 1:41:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like, Nice.
• 1:41:22
  SPEAKER_00: I like that.
• 1:41:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like, you just need to, you need to do that stuff and you need to be,
• 1:41:31
  SPEAKER_01: realize that like, you know what?
• 1:41:33
  SPEAKER_01: Don't do it to pander to people.
• 1:41:35
  SPEAKER_01: Don't sit there, like, you know, don't be Lisa Leibs, right?
• 1:41:39
  SPEAKER_01: Liza Leibs or whatever her name is, right?
• 1:41:41
  SPEAKER_01: Because she came up again in conversation recently.
• 1:41:45
  SPEAKER_01: What I mean is that Her whole shtick is like,
• 1:41:49
  SPEAKER_01: the publishing world locks me out and blah, blah, blah.
• 1:41:52
  SPEAKER_01: Who gives a fuck about the publishing world?
• 1:41:54
  SPEAKER_01: I don't want to be published by those guys.
• 1:41:56
  SPEAKER_01: I don't care about those guys.
• 1:41:57
  SPEAKER_01: If you're the only guy that reads my stuff, I'm happy.
• 1:42:03
  SPEAKER_01: If nobody reads my stuff and it dies on some server somewhere, forgotten forever,
• 1:42:08
  SPEAKER_01: and I get thrown into a hole, you know what?
• 1:42:10
  SPEAKER_01: I still did it.
• 1:42:12
  SPEAKER_01: I still did it.
• 1:42:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's not about them.
• 1:42:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's about me.
• 1:42:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's about my own spiritual growth.
• 1:42:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's my own spiritual independence.
• 1:42:25
  SPEAKER_01: I will die and I will go to meet my maker, meet Christ,
• 1:42:30
  SPEAKER_01: knowing that I did what I yearned to do. You know what I mean?
• 1:42:34
  SPEAKER_01: And that's really all that matters.
• 1:42:36
  SPEAKER_01: All of it is just dust in the wind, dude.
• 1:42:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's just nonsense.
• 1:42:40
  SPEAKER_01: Right?
• 1:42:42
  SPEAKER_01: You, giving your daughter or your son or your wife a hug,
• 1:42:46
  SPEAKER_01: has more value than any votes you place for any red hat or blue hat or anything like
• 1:42:52
  SPEAKER_01: that, okay?
• 1:42:53
  SPEAKER_01: It matters more than all that stuff a million times, a million times more,
• 1:42:57
  SPEAKER_01: or an infinite amount of times more, all right?
• 1:43:00
  SPEAKER_01: So that's all I got to say about this topic.
• 1:43:03
  SPEAKER_01: I actually don't want to talk about politics at all anymore.
• 1:43:05
  SPEAKER_01: So next week, we're not going to talk about politics.
• 1:43:07
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk about edge runners too.
• 1:43:10
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm going to read up on some cyberpunk lore because I don't know as much
• 1:43:16
  SPEAKER_01: as they did. But yeah, you got anything else for us, Fisto?
• 1:43:23
  SPEAKER_01: Did we lose Fisto?
• 1:43:28
  SPEAKER_01: Are you back?
• 1:43:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I'm back. Yeah. I pressed the button earlier.
• 1:43:31
  SPEAKER_00: I came back, like I heard everything.
• 1:43:33
  SPEAKER_00: Everything's great.
• 1:43:34
  SPEAKER_00: No, um, I got nothing else, man.
• 1:43:36
  SPEAKER_00: Um, I'm excited to view edge runners in a couple of weeks.
• 1:43:40
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I'm excited for my thing at the end of the month.
• 1:43:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think that's going to be great.
• 1:43:45
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, I think you are, I think you are correct with what's going on here.
• 1:43:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I don't think a lot of people are going to get it.
• 1:43:52
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think most people are going to understand.
• 1:43:54
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, but yeah, the anarch, the, the staying true to yourself,
• 1:43:57
  SPEAKER_00: the remaining The remaining in the world, but not of it.
• 1:44:02
  SPEAKER_00: That is the challenge of the 21st century because this is a machine.
• 1:44:06
  SPEAKER_00: We are squirrels in the road.
• 1:44:08
  SPEAKER_00: We are squirrels in the road and the truck is coming down the road.
• 1:44:11
  SPEAKER_00: And yeah, that's that.
• 1:44:14
  SPEAKER_01: Sorry, because you don't have to be You don't have to be a monk, okay?
• 1:44:20
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to be some dork, Roger, you know,
• 1:44:25
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to go take the Benedict option and go live in the woods or whatever,
• 1:44:29
  SPEAKER_01: which obviously, to me, how am I going to read something
• 1:44:33
  SPEAKER_01: from a dude that's never done any of his stuff, but whatever, right?
• 1:44:36
  SPEAKER_01: But you don't need to do that.
• 1:44:38
  SPEAKER_01: You don't need to be, you know,
• 1:44:39
  SPEAKER_01: a completely like recluse and go out in the woods and stuff,
• 1:44:42
  SPEAKER_01: but you should always have that option.
• 1:44:44
  SPEAKER_01: You should always keep it in the back of your mind.
• 1:44:46
  SPEAKER_01: You can do that.
• 1:44:48
  SPEAKER_01: If you wanted to, you can do that.
• 1:44:50
  SPEAKER_01: But you need to be amongst the world.
• 1:44:53
  SPEAKER_01: You need to accept the world for its reality.
• 1:44:55
  SPEAKER_01: You need to see the world truly how it is.
• 1:45:00
  SPEAKER_01: I think that is the key.
• 1:45:01
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the key that Edgerunners 2 shows, that Roman sees the world as it truly is.
• 1:45:08
  SPEAKER_01: Not as the brain dancers put it, not as the...
• 1:45:13
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like the implants do.
• 1:45:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I want you to, when you watch Edgerunners 2,
• 1:45:18
  SPEAKER_01: when you finish the rest of the few episodes,
• 1:45:20
  SPEAKER_01: really pay attention to the difference of the point of view
• 1:45:23
  SPEAKER_01: of when Roman sees something or is videotaping something.
• 1:45:27
  SPEAKER_01: Compared to the way the animation switches when you see Dee or Talia's point of view.
• 1:45:34
  SPEAKER_01: And you'll see how...
• 1:45:36
  SPEAKER_01: Roman's view almost looks like 1990s animation.
• 1:45:41
  SPEAKER_01: The sun's perfect.
• 1:45:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's almost very realistic, but very faded by the sun.
• 1:45:47
  SPEAKER_01: There's a shaky cam because he's a 12-year-old boy whose hands are shaking,
• 1:45:50
  SPEAKER_01: and he's afraid, and he sees people smiling and stuff.
• 1:45:54
  SPEAKER_01: And then when it switches to Dee's view, It becomes exceptionally stylized.
• 1:45:58
  SPEAKER_01: There's no more backgrounds.
• 1:46:00
  SPEAKER_01: Nothing looks real.
• 1:46:02
  SPEAKER_01: It's like weird overlays, insane colors, like pinks and blacks and neon greens.
• 1:46:10
  SPEAKER_01: The lines are dark and very, very edgy, sharp.
• 1:46:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well, through Roman's viewpoint, they're soft and analog looking.
• 1:46:22
  SPEAKER_01: And it's very fascinating how they do that because that itself is a visual storytelling.
• 1:46:27
  SPEAKER_01: To me, I think it's a masterpiece of animation how they did that.
• 1:46:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:46:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's really important to understand that you need to see the world
• 1:46:35
  SPEAKER_01: for what it really is, not for what the story they tell you is.
• 1:46:40
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the key, right?
• 1:46:44
  SPEAKER_01: You need to see the world as it truly is, the reality of it, even if it's ugly.
• 1:46:51
  SPEAKER_01: Even if it's ugly, because it is ugly, right?
• 1:46:53
  SPEAKER_01: There's a lot of ugly parts and there's a lot of beautiful parts.
• 1:46:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, there's a thing I think they're doing too.
• 1:47:00
  SPEAKER_00: And it relates to the animation thing.
• 1:47:02
  SPEAKER_00: But you've said in chat that each scene in the show is from the game.
• 1:47:09
  SPEAKER_00: And it's funny to me, having played the game quite extensively,
• 1:47:15
  SPEAKER_00: it triggers the nostalgia bit.
• 1:47:16
  SPEAKER_00: It triggers that little...
• 1:47:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know this, you know this, you know this.
• 1:47:21
  SPEAKER_00: It grounds it in a real place.
• 1:47:23
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it grounds it.
• 1:47:25
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that's another nice little,
• 1:47:28
  SPEAKER_00: it's a nice little treat for people who play the game and really know the game.
• 1:47:31
  SPEAKER_00: But they've done it with music too.
• 1:47:32
  SPEAKER_00: I've noticed a few times they've dropped in,
• 1:47:34
  SPEAKER_00: like they were dropping in the episode I was watching last night.
• 1:47:39
  SPEAKER_00: I heard just a hint of Rebel Path and I was like, oh shit, nice.
• 1:47:43
  SPEAKER_00: Like they just kind of slide that in there.
• 1:47:46
  SPEAKER_00: And then the tune from Phantom Liberty, the concert in Phantom Liberty,
• 1:47:51
  SPEAKER_00: they had that in there at one point.
• 1:47:53
  SPEAKER_01: And it's just like – Oh, they did a really great job.
• 1:47:56
  SPEAKER_01: The directing.
• 1:47:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a cool way to kind of grab you and then make you feel the reality.
• 1:48:03
  SPEAKER_00: Not just see it visually and see it, but like, yeah, man, it's a masterpiece.
• 1:48:07
  SPEAKER_00: These guys are fantastic.
• 1:48:09
  SPEAKER_00: She's the best, man.
• 1:48:11
  SPEAKER_01: And Matt in the chat points out that King is always looking at and appreciating,
• 1:48:17
  SPEAKER_01: you know, the little things.
• 1:48:18
  SPEAKER_01: And I say, I want to get into the characters and like the actual details.
• 1:48:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, in depth. In depth.
• 1:48:23
  SPEAKER_01: But he's a great example because King is basically
• 1:48:26
  SPEAKER_01: a person that was part of the system.
• 1:48:31
  SPEAKER_01: He was fully, he was, you know, he was the David of from last.
• 1:48:36
  SPEAKER_01: You reached the end state.
• 1:48:37
  SPEAKER_01: You reached the end state and stopped at the last minute.
• 1:48:41
  SPEAKER_01: He stopped at the last
• 1:48:42
  SPEAKER_01: minute and he got lucky and he realized what really matters,
• 1:48:46
  SPEAKER_01: which is family.
• 1:48:49
  SPEAKER_01: Fake or real and love, you know,
• 1:48:52
  SPEAKER_01: connection and love and that it's not about being the king anymore.
• 1:48:55
  SPEAKER_01: That being weak is okay.
• 1:48:58
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, his name is weak king, you know, which is very interesting and kind of on the nose.
• 1:49:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah. But I mean, how Christlike is that concept?
• 1:49:08
  SPEAKER_00: They even comment in the show, like there's a couple of jokes where people are like,
• 1:49:14
  SPEAKER_00: man, we don't even know where you got that name from.
• 1:49:15
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:49:18
  SPEAKER_01: Which points to it, right?
• 1:49:19
  SPEAKER_00: Which points to that, right?
• 1:49:20
  SPEAKER_00: We don't even know where you come from.
• 1:49:21
  SPEAKER_00: You're like, yeah, no, you don't.
• 1:49:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:49:23
  SPEAKER_01: How Christlike is that concept that, you know, Christ is the weak king in a way, right?
• 1:49:29
  SPEAKER_01: Who refuses to, you know, to fight back.
• 1:49:33
  SPEAKER_01: You know, he, yet he is the strongest out of all of them, of anybody, right?
• 1:49:39
  SPEAKER_01: And like, you know, he defeats death and it's,
• 1:49:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a very interesting topic and we'll go into that.
• 1:49:47
  SPEAKER_01: Another kind of note that if you watch between now and two weeks from now,
• 1:49:51
  SPEAKER_01: I highly recommend you pay attention to the fact to contrast it to the first season,
• 1:49:55
  SPEAKER_01: how almost everything in the first season takes place at night.
• 1:50:00
  SPEAKER_01: And it's in the dark but almost everything in this season takes place
• 1:50:04
  SPEAKER_01: during the day um that's a very it's
• 1:50:09
  SPEAKER_01: a conscious choice for a cyberpunk piece of fiction
• 1:50:13
  SPEAKER_00: to be in the day to be in the day yeah that's weird
• 1:50:16
  SPEAKER_01: yeah almost every important element every like scene
• 1:50:20
  SPEAKER_01: takes place during the day even the final episode takes place fully
• 1:50:24
  SPEAKER_01: during the day yeah
• 1:50:26
  SPEAKER_00: fully during the day in night city
• 1:50:28
  SPEAKER_01: right Which is,
• 1:50:30
  SPEAKER_01: which is very interesting.
• 1:50:31
  SPEAKER_01: It's very, you know, like it's, it's obviously a conscious, like, you know,
• 1:50:35
  SPEAKER_01: choice that they made that for, for a reason.
• 1:50:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I thought it was fantastic.
• 1:50:39
  SPEAKER_01: I said, like I said, I really, I'm going to talk,
• 1:50:42
  SPEAKER_01: really talk about Edgerunners from an Ernst Jr., you know,
• 1:50:48
  SPEAKER_01: anarch kind of perspective next, next episode, because I think that it's, Basically,
• 1:50:55
  SPEAKER_01: it captures, it illustrates those concepts fantastically.
• 1:50:59
  SPEAKER_01: And it can be, you know, it's a modern-day Umuswil, basically.
• 1:51:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, well,
• 1:51:04
  SPEAKER_00: it doesn't surprise me because Younger's Umuswil and the Anarch is
• 1:51:10
  SPEAKER_00: so deeply perceptive about what is going to be required.
• 1:51:14
  SPEAKER_00: And we are moving to cyberpunk.
• 1:51:16
  SPEAKER_00: We are moving into a cyberpunk thing.
• 1:51:18
  SPEAKER_00: Umuswil was very cyberpunk.
• 1:51:21
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's a city-state.
• 1:51:24
  SPEAKER_00: That rule, you know, that exists after some unimaginable catastrophe
• 1:51:31
  SPEAKER_00: and everything is shattered and atomized.
• 1:51:34
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't have the digital layer, but it doesn't need the fucking digital layer.
• 1:51:38
  SPEAKER_00: It's clearly, yeah, it's Night City without the cool toys.
• 1:51:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right. And that's kind of where we're heading.
• 1:51:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah. And it's like with the Condor.
• 1:51:52
  SPEAKER_00: If Condor's not there, then it's just going to be Arasaka, Militech,
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  SPEAKER_00: it doesn't matter, or the Condor.
• 1:51:57
  SPEAKER_00: The same cycles are just going to continue.
• 1:52:01
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody's got to run the place.
• 1:52:02
  SPEAKER_01: Somebody has to run the place.
• 1:52:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, someone's got to run it until whatever happens.
• 1:52:08
  SPEAKER_01: And that's the reality of the situation for the Anarch, is that as the Anarch,
• 1:52:14
  SPEAKER_01: you realize that Somebody's got to run the place.
• 1:52:18
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be a dictator, a fascist, you know, a communist.
• 1:52:22
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to be somebody. It's going to be some government. Some government.
• 1:52:26
  SPEAKER_01: And you have to make your way and you have to identify that.
• 1:52:29
  SPEAKER_01: And you can't live in a perpetual self-destruction because you can't, you know,
• 1:52:33
  SPEAKER_01: you can't bring nothing.
• 1:52:35
  SPEAKER_00: You can't fight it. You can't beat that.
• 1:52:36
  SPEAKER_00: You are not the weak king.
• 1:52:38
  SPEAKER_00: You cannot solve this problem.
• 1:52:39
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:52:40
  SPEAKER_00: You got to trust the weak king did his job.
• 1:52:43
  SPEAKER_01: All right, guys. Thank you for tuning in.
• 1:52:45
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody listening at home, I really appreciate you guys listening to this feature episode.
• 1:52:49
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to have this episode edited and out.
• 1:52:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm going to try to do it tomorrow because I wanted to keep it kind of pertinent
• 1:52:57
  SPEAKER_01: to the current conversation.
• 1:52:59
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, keep it timing.
• 1:53:02
  SPEAKER_01: We'll be back in two weeks where we're going to just focus really
• 1:53:04
  SPEAKER_01: on Edgerunner season two, unless something insane happens in the next two weeks
• 1:53:08
  SPEAKER_01: that we need to talk about. Please no. Please know.
• 1:53:10
  SPEAKER_01: I'm hoping not him.
• 1:53:13
  SPEAKER_01: And so if you guys haven't watched Edge Runners,
• 1:53:16
  SPEAKER_01: I would highly recommend you watch the first, or there's only, there's two seasons.
• 1:53:20
  SPEAKER_01: You don't have to watch, you don't have to watch the first season to be honest,
• 1:53:24
  SPEAKER_01: but it does kind of,
• 1:53:28
  SPEAKER_01: First season is really good too.
• 1:53:29
  SPEAKER_01: So it's really good.
• 1:53:31
  SPEAKER_00: You should watch the first season just because it's great.
• 1:53:34
  SPEAKER_01: They're only eight episodes each.
• 1:53:36
  SPEAKER_01: So they're very short.
• 1:53:37
  SPEAKER_01: Both seasons combined are not as long as Pluto was.
• 1:53:43
  SPEAKER_01: So I think you can watch.
• 1:53:45
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I think I watched the first season in one day and then I watched the second season.
• 1:53:49
  SPEAKER_00: The episodes are only a half hour.
• 1:53:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I watched the second season over two nights, basically, because I was kind of binging it.
• 1:53:55
  SPEAKER_01: I highly recommend it. It's really good.
• 1:53:57
  SPEAKER_01: You don't really have to know much about Cyberpunk 2077 or any of that.
• 1:54:03
  SPEAKER_01: If you have a basic understanding of the milieu of Cyberpunk, it's obvious.
• 1:54:09
  SPEAKER_01: But other than that, Um, I hope that, you know,
• 1:54:13
  SPEAKER_01: you kind of understand where I'm coming from with why I don't think it's such
• 1:54:18
  SPEAKER_01: a big deal that the right lost in this situation.
• 1:54:20
  SPEAKER_01: I think it's actually a good thing.
• 1:54:22
  SPEAKER_01: I also think that, uh, I'm a bit of a white pill on this and I'm hoping
• 1:54:26
  SPEAKER_01: that it does kind of, you know, make some people realize that like, Hey man,
• 1:54:32
  SPEAKER_01: don't take it. Don't take us for granted. Okay.
• 1:54:33
  SPEAKER_01: We're not going to be there just because you put on the red hat.
• 1:54:36
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and I hope that, um, You know, we don't fall into doom-sloppery.
• 1:54:42
  SPEAKER_01: I expect the next few weeks to be, you know, everybody's going to comment on,
• 1:54:47
  SPEAKER_01: you know, you're going to have the cuck drawers going left and right
• 1:54:50
  SPEAKER_01: and basically blaming young guys for
• 1:54:53
  SPEAKER_00: being evil, racist, and, you know,
• 1:54:55
  SPEAKER_01: scaring the hoes or whatever, you know.
• 1:54:57
  SPEAKER_00: Now I can't go on my seventh cruise because you guys...
• 1:55:01
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right. With that guy, that Lindsey guy, he's going to be- Oh, Jesus Christ.
• 1:55:05
  SPEAKER_01: You know what I'm talking about?
• 1:55:06
  SPEAKER_00: He's going to be like- Yeah, somebody shoot that guy.
• 1:55:08
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, crap.
• 1:55:09
  SPEAKER_01: Idiot.
• 1:55:10
  SPEAKER_01: He's going to have the papers and they're probably not going to learn anything
• 1:55:13
  SPEAKER_01: from it whatsoever.
• 1:55:14
  SPEAKER_01: And, you know, honestly, it doesn't matter.
• 1:55:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right? It doesn't matter.
• 1:55:19
  SPEAKER_01: If humans can survive communism under the Soviet Union and China and stuff,
• 1:55:24
  SPEAKER_01: you can survive under two years of a lame duck presidency
• 1:55:28
  SPEAKER_01: and a divided Congress,
• 1:55:31
  SPEAKER_01: you know?
• 1:55:33
  SPEAKER_01: All right, guys. Oh, you know, like Jason says that, you know,
• 1:55:37
  SPEAKER_01: Dreyer would never be so vulgar as to say, oh,
• 1:55:39
  SPEAKER_01: but then he makes a meme about that plane crash, you know? Oh, I know.
• 1:55:43
  SPEAKER_01: What a disgusting creature that dude is.
• 1:55:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's the lack of self-awareness. I didn't say fuck.
• 1:55:50
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't say retard.
• 1:55:51
  SPEAKER_00: But I fucking made fun of nine people that freaking lost their life in like
• 1:55:56
  SPEAKER_00: the most horrifying way you could probably imagine in the modern world.
• 1:56:00
  SPEAKER_00: And it's being broadcast.
• 1:56:02
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I can't even imagine what their souls might think knowing
• 1:56:05
  SPEAKER_00: that everybody's turning it into memes because somebody got lucky
• 1:56:08
  SPEAKER_00: with the dash cam footage.
• 1:56:09
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:56:11
  SPEAKER_00: It's a cyber nightmare, Rod.
• 1:56:13
  SPEAKER_00: You should shut the fuck up.
• 1:56:14
  SPEAKER_01: Right. I mean, like how, how, how grotesque is that guy, you know?
• 1:56:18
  SPEAKER_01: And anyway, you know, it's, it's like, ah, dude, I hate,
• 1:56:22
  SPEAKER_01: I really despise that guy with the deep passion.
• 1:56:24
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it's the same guy that was like, oh yeah, you know, oh, young,
• 1:56:27
  SPEAKER_01: young men are, are a hundred percent, you know,
• 1:56:30
  SPEAKER_01: young men are a hundred percent right to be upset that there's no jobs for them
• 1:56:34
  SPEAKER_01: and that kind of stuff.
• 1:56:34
  SPEAKER_01: Well, let me go talk about my, my, my gourmet artisan butter in the same way.
• 1:56:39
  SPEAKER_00: I got that butter. Yeah.
• 1:56:41
  SPEAKER_00: Hey man, they had butter on that plane too. Shut the fuck up.
• 1:56:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I hate that, dude, man.
• 1:56:47
  SPEAKER_01: I wish that guy was not an Orthodox Christian.
• 1:56:49
  SPEAKER_01: I know that sounds messed up, but it really just taints us, dude.
• 1:56:55
  SPEAKER_01: All right, guys. Have a wonderful night.
• 1:56:57
  SPEAKER_01: We'll see you in two weeks for our little Edgerunners 2 episode.
• 1:57:01
  SPEAKER_01: I highly recommend, once again,
• 1:57:02
  SPEAKER_01: you watch the show and also kind of catch up on Ernst Jünger's idea of the Anarch
• 1:57:07
  SPEAKER_01: because that's going to be kind of my main thesis.
• 1:57:09
  SPEAKER_01: We're going to talk about that.
• 1:57:11
  SPEAKER_01: Specifically, the book that Ernst Jünger outlines the Anarch is in Umuswil and also
• 1:57:18
  SPEAKER_01: in The Glass Bees.
• 1:57:19
  SPEAKER_01: He talks about that, but that's more focused
• 1:57:22
  SPEAKER_01: on the technological development Artistic side of it,
• 1:57:26
  SPEAKER_01: but we're going to be talking about the Glassbees, Umiswil,
• 1:57:29
  SPEAKER_01: and Edgerunners 2 as how I feel like they're very,
• 1:57:32
  SPEAKER_01: very similar in tone and in ideology.
• 1:57:36
  SPEAKER_01: And what I really think that is the ideal,
• 1:57:39
  SPEAKER_01: if you're going to adopt some kind of a philosophical outlook,
• 1:57:41
  SPEAKER_01: I think that is the most ideal way to kind of go about it.
• 1:57:47
  SPEAKER_01: And there we go.
• 1:57:49
  SPEAKER_01: Our sock is cutting us down for the night.
• 1:57:52
  SPEAKER_01: You guys have a good night and we'll see you in two weeks.