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55KRC Monday Show - Smitherman, Money Monday, State Rep Mark Hiner · Brian Thomas

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  Speaker 1: Five o five at fifty five DRC, the talk station.
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  Speaker 1: Happy mondays.
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  Speaker 2: Some say.
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  Speaker 3: Education I'm the dude.
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  Speaker 1: May I am not. My name is Brian Thomas. I'm
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  Speaker 1: hosted the fifty five Carssey Morning Show. And it is Monday,
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  Speaker 1: like it or not. Hope you had a wonderful weekend.
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  Speaker 1: Good to see ju Drecker of course where he belongs,
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  Speaker 1: Executive producer of the fifty five krsee Morning Show and
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  Speaker 1: liner upper of guests here in the morning show coming
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  Speaker 1: up seven to twenty typical Monday. Here on the fifty
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  Speaker 1: five Carsey Morning Show. Gotta wait for it, seven twenty
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  Speaker 1: for the first guest, Christopher Smithman of course, uh, former
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  Speaker 1: vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati's going to join
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  Speaker 1: the program offer his thoughts and comments on matters local,
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  Speaker 1: including probably a word or two about the former fire
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  Speaker 1: chief Washington's termination and City Manager Cheryl Long's now exposure
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  Speaker 1: to personal liability. That is a serious problem for her,
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  Speaker 1: and I think Christopher might want to bring that one
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  Speaker 1: up simply because he forwded me a copy of the
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  Speaker 1: opinion that was released by the appellate Court the other
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  Speaker 1: day affirming that yes, City Manager Cheryl Long has no
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  Speaker 1: protection from personal liability for wrongfully terminating police chief or
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  Speaker 1: fire chief Washington. So we'll do that at seven twenty
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  Speaker 1: of the Christopher. He may have something else on his mind.
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  Speaker 1: I don't mind five one three, seven fifty five, eight
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  Speaker 1: as I try to get these cylinders all firing. In
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  Speaker 1: the five o'clock hour eight oh five for Money Monday
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  Speaker 1: with Brian James. Inflation has dropped, question mark, I think so.
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  Speaker 1: And the mortgage rates ticked down a little bit, welcome
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  Speaker 1: relief for anybody that wanting to buy a home. Well,
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  Speaker 1: maybe a September rate hike, says the Fed. Perhaps a
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  Speaker 1: more second rate quarter earnings reports, our second quarter earnings reports,
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  Speaker 1: as well as the national debt now at forty trillion dollars. Great,
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  Speaker 1: that is a bipartisan catastrophe, bipartisan catastrophe decades. But I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I remember Ronald Reagan complained about it when the devsit
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  Speaker 1: hadn't quite reached a trillion net seemed to me, I
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  Speaker 1: recall a figure of like nine hundred and fifty billion,
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  Speaker 1: and he was just lamenting it. And we have never
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  Speaker 1: turned our backs on overspending. Since then, it's just gone
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  Speaker 1: up and up and up. You start paying a trillion
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  Speaker 1: plus dollars in interest, and you see the other program
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  Speaker 1: socis Security is already in massive trouble. Got some updates
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  Speaker 1: on that real quick here. State Representative Mark Heiner going
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  Speaker 1: to join the program at eight forty talk about property
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  Speaker 1: tax relief bill. I think we alluded to that one
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  Speaker 1: last week with Tom Zaustowski from We the People Convention,
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  Speaker 1: speaking of that fifty five caresee dot com. Go to
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  Speaker 1: the blog and podcast pages when you cannot listen live.
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  Speaker 1: We heard from Jack Windsor from the now Press Network.
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  Speaker 1: On Friday. Adam Kahler talked about the railroads and since
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  Speaker 1: that he infrastructs to the Dave Willams and the Taxpayer
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  Speaker 1: Protection Alliance. Multiple topics with Dave, including the Post Office
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  Speaker 1: losing two and a half billion dollars again in the
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  Speaker 1: most recent quarter reports. What a Charlie foxtrot that business
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  Speaker 1: model is. It's not even a business model. But then again,
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  Speaker 1: so Social Security. Joseph Sternberg writing about this in the
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  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal, Congress may be willing to reform Social Security,
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  Speaker 1: and it's not going to be a pretty picture. M
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  Speaker 1: any points may be surprised your Congress is getting serious
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  Speaker 1: after a fashion about Social Security reform, you won't be
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  Speaker 1: at all surprised to learn that it is taking the
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  Speaker 1: form of an attempt to pass the responsibility to somebody else.
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  Speaker 1: Politicians tend to do that, don't they. Apparently they have.
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  Speaker 1: The concerns over the social welfare program that is, Social
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  Speaker 1: Security has taken on new urgency. Latest and report from
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  Speaker 1: the program's trustees h saying that the program will run
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  Speaker 1: out of funds. That doomsday a date is now officially
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  Speaker 1: in twenty thirty two. If Congress resorts to well plundering
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  Speaker 1: the disability portant portion, as Joseph writes, the two together
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  Speaker 1: will hobble only into twenty thirty four. So if you,
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  Speaker 1: you know, going cutting to the chase, you're only going
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  Speaker 1: to buy yourself two more years if they reform or
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  Speaker 1: go after the disability portion. A lot of abuse in
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  Speaker 1: that too, speaking of fraud, waste, and abuse percolating in
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  Speaker 1: the background among every government program under the current law.
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  Speaker 1: Once the programs have been exhausted, the current trust funds,
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  Speaker 1: the current trust funds, the joking, laughing concept of the
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  Speaker 1: trust funds. Once those, however, have been exhausted, benefits will
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  Speaker 1: fall to match current revenue, the money that's coming in
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  Speaker 1: from the workers out there, of course, fewer workers, fewer
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  Speaker 1: people paying into the system, more and more people on
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  Speaker 1: the system. So if that happens, it would require an
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  Speaker 1: estimated twenty two percent cutting benefits instantly. For retirees. That
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  Speaker 1: deadline right now is twenty thirty two. Now, if you
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  Speaker 1: are on a fixed income, you're living on Social Security,
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  Speaker 1: consider that payment reduced by twenty two percent? Can you
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  Speaker 1: manage your affairs financially? Just asking the question, You're the
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  Speaker 1: one that's got to contemplate this. Why because our elected
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  Speaker 1: officials have failed us year after year after year, getting
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  Speaker 1: a guaranteed cost of living increase every single year, even
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  Speaker 1: though it's not tied to the real inflation. Why Well,
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  Speaker 1: because they needed your votes kicking the can down the street.
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  Speaker 1: Why they wouldn't engage in reform because they needed your
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  Speaker 1: votes the third rail of politics. We as elected officials
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  Speaker 1: can't touch one of the biggest problems our country faces.
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  Speaker 1: Why because well, you'll be pissed off regardless of what
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  Speaker 1: we do to try to extend the life of the program.
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  Speaker 1: That's really what this is boiled down. No one is
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  Speaker 1: going to be happy, says emergens can emergency are the
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  Speaker 1: emerging Rather consensus appears to be the lawmakers doubt their
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  Speaker 1: capacity to reach a consensus. They propose instead to form
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  Speaker 1: a study committee. Here's where they hand it off. A
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  Speaker 1: study committee committee of some sort that will then tell
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  Speaker 1: our elected officials what to do, probably because they don't
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  Speaker 1: know what to do because they're idiots. Depending on which
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  Speaker 1: subject matter, Senate version will deputize the existing Social Security
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  Speaker 1: Advisory Board to craft a wholesale reform of the entitement.
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  Speaker 1: We in the Senate aren't going to do it. We
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  Speaker 1: need economic experts to do it. Here, you guys, craft
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  Speaker 1: a wholesale reform and hand it back to us. They say.
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  Speaker 1: The panel would write a reform build that Congress would
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  Speaker 1: have to consider on an expedited basis. All the lawmakers
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  Speaker 1: would be free to amend it. It will amended it will,
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  Speaker 1: because well, of course they can do that when they
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  Speaker 1: want to tack on stuff and things to a bill
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  Speaker 1: that they had prepared by technocratic experts. It's because they
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  Speaker 1: lacked the cognitive ability to craft one themselves. Over to
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  Speaker 1: the House. Their version of the idea would involve the
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  Speaker 1: creation of a new, more overtly political panel, as he writes,
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  Speaker 1: with thirteen members appointed by the President, House and Senate leaders.
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  Speaker 1: If at least nine on that board could agree on
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  Speaker 1: a reform package, you will be fast tracked to an
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  Speaker 1: upper down vote in Congress with no opportunities for amendments,
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  Speaker 1: as he says, takes seriously the desire of lawmakers involved,
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  Speaker 1: who would include Republicans Tom Cole and Democrat Tom Sozy
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  Speaker 1: in the House and Bill Cassidy Republican and Tom Tillis,
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  Speaker 1: as well as John Cornyan, Democrats, Dick Durbin, Tim Kane,
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  Speaker 1: and an independent Angus King. Look, it's a bipartisan collective
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  Speaker 1: of big huhas anyway, takes seriously the desire of those
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  Speaker 1: huha lawmakers to address the looming instability of the age
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  Speaker 1: old problem are the old age problem? It's both, isn't it?
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  Speaker 1: Alast for them? He writes, the plans are unlikely to work. Great,
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  Speaker 1: there's your burst bubble of optimism. The challenge confronting socials
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  Speaker 1: security has been obvious for decades. Several of them program unstable,
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  Speaker 1: unsustainable drag on public finances because well lifespans are extending.
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  Speaker 1: You're living a lot older than when this program began.
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  Speaker 1: Demographic balance of the population tilts toward the elderly baby
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  Speaker 1: boomers retire. The design of the retirement program ratchets up
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  Speaker 1: benefits beyond ratchets up benefit payaths. And there was a
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  Speaker 1: separate story over here. I saw that was related to
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  Speaker 1: public schools losing students. And the primary reason for this
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  Speaker 1: birth rates have dropped. You know, if we're not having babies.
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  Speaker 1: And I listen, this plays into the argument that we
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  Speaker 1: need open borders and we need more immigration rights. Well,
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  Speaker 1: if we were having more babies, then there would be
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  Speaker 1: people there in the jobs, and I guess people aren't
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  Speaker 1: having babies that would ultimately fill these jobs. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: West Virginia's birth rates down eighteen point three percent over
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  Speaker 1: ten years. New Mexico twenty six percent decline in birth rate.
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  Speaker 1: It's just one state after another double digit declines in
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  Speaker 1: birth rates. How is the Social Security system funded? Again?
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  Speaker 1: That's right the now I believe three workers paying into
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  Speaker 1: a system which used to have fifteen workers paying into
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  Speaker 1: a system, and of course a system where people used
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  Speaker 1: to die before the age of seventy. You see how
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  Speaker 1: lobside of this has become when people regularly commonly live
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  Speaker 1: into their eighties. So the threat of the system and
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  Speaker 1: the longevity of the system is obvious. And this is
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  Speaker 1: no surprise to anybody. That's what the article is about.
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  Speaker 1: Year after year after year. We've been screaming, yell or
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  Speaker 1: at least people whove crunched numbers, that this is going
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  Speaker 1: to run out of money, that the system cannot be
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  Speaker 1: sustained under its current under its current structure. So what's
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  Speaker 1: going to happen? Bloated entitament. Entitlement is tough to reform,
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  Speaker 1: isn't news? The so security problem isn't news. And he
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  Speaker 1: concludes the unusual feature here, unique among entitlements in the
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  Speaker 1: world's major economies, is that Congress is required to try
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  Speaker 1: and fix it. Normally, entitlements grow a pace, consuming ever
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  Speaker 1: more resources, but without triggering a political crisis sufficient to
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  Speaker 1: prompt reform. The Trust Fund gimmick, in contrast, creates unavoidable
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  Speaker 1: deadline for reform, which ultimately is the reason to be
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  Speaker 1: forgiving of Congress. He writes, whatever lawmaker's first unsatisfactory instincts,
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  Speaker 1: they eventually will have to do their jobs. They can't
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  Speaker 1: hide behind it anymore. You know, I can draw a
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  Speaker 1: parallel and having to do their jobs over here in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio. Since we are going to be
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  Speaker 1: talking about property taxes with State Representative Heiner in the
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  Speaker 1: the eight o'clock hour. That's one of the kind of
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  Speaker 1: interesting things I see in the proposed constitutional amendment to
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  Speaker 1: wipe out property tax here in Ohio. It's not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be end a ballut in November. They're still collecting signatures
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  Speaker 1: because it's a complicated problem. We the voters in Ohio,
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  Speaker 1: the people who might want to eradicate property taxes, are
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  Speaker 1: going to throw a massive problem on the shoulders over
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  Speaker 1: elected officials. We have repealed property taxes. If it passes,
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  Speaker 1: it's now a constitutional amendment. You can't tax our property anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Go ahead, figure out where the money is going to
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  Speaker 1: come from for all these different hands in the property
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  Speaker 1: tax cookie Jar, do your job complicated as it may be.
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  Speaker 1: Five seventeen fifty five Carocity Talk Station five point three
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  Speaker 1: love to hear from you something else you want to
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  Speaker 1: talk about. Feel free to bring it up. I'll be
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  Speaker 1: right back side death Monday, trying to make it so. Anyway,
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  Speaker 1: anybody know where Mitch McConnell is, Joe, have you talked
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  Speaker 1: to him lately?
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  Speaker 4: Now?
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  Speaker 1: Huh, Well, neither's anybody else apparently. I know Governor any
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  Speaker 1: Sheer would like to be president of the United States
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  Speaker 1: of America, and he comes across as kind of a
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  Speaker 1: sort of a centrist guy. He's rejected the woke one
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  Speaker 1: call it woke one call it woke too, But of
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  Speaker 1: course he's trying to get center stage. And insofar as
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  Speaker 1: Mitch mcconnald's concern, not a huge fan of Mitch for
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  Speaker 1: fariday of reasons. And I think a lot of my
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  Speaker 1: listeners share my concerns about Mitch McConnell, but I don't
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  Speaker 1: wish him any ill will, and neither of his Kentucky
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  Speaker 1: Governor Andy by Sheer, who said he has heard absolutely
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  Speaker 1: nothing back from Senator Mitch McConnell, although he has requested
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  Speaker 1: updates on Mitch McConnell's health on variety of different occasions.
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  Speaker 4: Hmmm.
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  Speaker 1: Speaking on CBS News facination, I wish him no harm.
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  Speaker 1: I actually wish him good health. He said his boss
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  Speaker 1: are the people of Kentucky. And this is why the Senate,
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  Speaker 1: the Republican controlled Senate, he interjected, feels so broken. They
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  Speaker 1: feel like they're not accountable to anyone. Well, yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think you can paint with a broader brush. It's not
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  Speaker 1: just the Republicans probably feeling that way. Anyway, he went on.
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  Speaker 1: All he needs and this is where I agree with
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  Speaker 1: Kentucky Democrat Governor Andy Basheer simple solution to the problem
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  Speaker 1: swirling around. I'd expect Republicans to well engage in higher
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  Speaker 1: level of transparency because it's what I expect from all
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  Speaker 1: elected officials. Why wouldn't they let us know what's going on?
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  Speaker 1: Quote from Dasher. All he needs to do is call
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  Speaker 1: into this show for two minutes or Fox News for
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  Speaker 1: two minutes, or do a video for two minutes to
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  Speaker 1: the people he's supposed to serve. But you know what
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  Speaker 1: he absolutely refuses to do so close Quote Andy Bsher,
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  Speaker 1: He said he spoke directly to Senate Majority of leader
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  Speaker 1: John Thune. He says, Leader of the Senate, you got
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  Speaker 1: to duty to make sure all of your senators have
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  Speaker 1: the capacity to serve. And what is he saying? Not
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  Speaker 1: my job? That's not surprised now. Mitch has been hospitalized
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  Speaker 1: since Juny Fellon is Washington home. No information released about
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  Speaker 1: his condition for weeks. His office provided a variety of updates,
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  Speaker 1: showed a photo of him in recovery. They gave no
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  Speaker 1: timeline for his return to Capitol Hill. The silence is deafening,
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  Speaker 1: is it not? And that's a problem that is so
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  Speaker 1: easy to solve. And then ask yourself a question, why
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  Speaker 1: is no information being let out? Why isn't there a
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  Speaker 1: quick video of McConnell waving at the camera, just saying
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  Speaker 1: I'm okay, I'll be back as soon as I can,
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  Speaker 1: anything along those lines. See, you know, you come up
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  Speaker 1: with all kinds of ideas. Don't yet It's easy to
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  Speaker 1: do it in a factual vacuum. Shere's points well taken.
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  Speaker 1: Just a simple, out loud statement from a man we
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  Speaker 1: are told by his spokespeople and from others who they
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  Speaker 1: claim have actually or others who have claimed to actually
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  Speaker 1: have spoken with Mitch McConnell. I just talk with him
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  Speaker 1: in the hospital. Everything's okay, okay. If you can talk
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  Speaker 1: with him, then he's able to talk. Then why don't
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  Speaker 1: we get some information? Problem solved? Conspiracy theories gone, Well,
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  Speaker 1: there he is. Why we do this to ourselves? Well
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  Speaker 1: we on the what I would suppose one can argue
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  Speaker 1: more logical reasonable in the face of at least the
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  Speaker 1: Democrats Socialist America political party. Why wouldn't you solve this
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  Speaker 1: problem and the controversy and well make your party look
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  Speaker 1: a little bit better than the opposition. Simple problem solved.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe it's not so simple. Maybe some of those swirling
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  Speaker 1: conspiracy theories back in the background have some merit. Five
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  Speaker 1: point twenty five got local stories coming up. Your phone
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  Speaker 1: calls are always welcome. Five one three eighty three seventy
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  Speaker 1: two degrees right now, fifty five KRC the talk station,
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  Speaker 1: Happy Eat Monday. Oh look, things back to normal here
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  Speaker 1: in the five careson morning show. Opportunity for you to
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  Speaker 1: call as well. But it's nice and comforting to see
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  Speaker 1: Tom is on the phone. Top. You made it through
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  Speaker 1: the weekend. Welcome back. It's good to hear from you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, good, good to hear you guys too. And
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  Speaker 5: had they had a bit of a crisis to deal
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  Speaker 5: with first thing Friday morning. So I was on the
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  Speaker 5: phone but with a bunch of people and just couldn't
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  Speaker 5: make the time to call in.
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  Speaker 1: So it's okay, Tom, but I guess you.
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  Speaker 5: I guess you made it. Okay, you made it through
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  Speaker 5: the show all right.
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  Speaker 1: And the weekend and here I am on Monday.
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  Speaker 5: How about that? How about that?
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  Speaker 1: How about that?
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  Speaker 4: Well?
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  Speaker 5: Good for you? Uh I did. I did go back
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  Speaker 5: and listen to the first part of of your show
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  Speaker 5: Friday and and you were talking about how so there
• 16:44
  Speaker 5: are some new cultural norms. Unfortunately, there's some things that
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  Speaker 5: that we are having to deal with this as somewhat
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  Speaker 5: normal or they're just they're they're happening far too often,
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  Speaker 5: and they're they're just more widely acceptable than they than
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  Speaker 5: they ever should have been. And the whole point of
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  Speaker 5: this is, uh is we we have to look at
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  Speaker 5: who we're voting for, because these are the people that
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  Speaker 5: that helped enact this stuff. They they help bring this
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  Speaker 5: stuff about, they allow this stuff to happen. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: you have you have people who just have some what's
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  Speaker 5: your what's your phrase backcrap insane ideas that that makes
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  Speaker 5: no absolutely no sense. I mean, really, seriously, are we really?
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  Speaker 5: I mean, we usually the extreme one, one of the
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  Speaker 5: extreme ones. Unfortunately, there's a bunch of them. But you know,
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  Speaker 5: allowing men and women's restrooms and locker rooms, and well,
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  Speaker 5: what kind of what kind of insanity? And we talking
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  Speaker 5: about it?
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  Speaker 2: What? What?
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  Speaker 6: What?
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  Speaker 5: Why are we even having this discussion? And the reason
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  Speaker 5: we're having this discussion is because you have people who
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  Speaker 5: allow this to happen. You have people on a local
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  Speaker 5: level and and then all the way up every every
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  Speaker 5: uh every level of government, all the way up to
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  Speaker 5: the national level, who allowed us to happen, who permit
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  Speaker 5: this stuff to go on, And uh, the elected officials
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  Speaker 5: in our in our constitutional republic, are supposed to be
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  Speaker 5: the safeguard against this kind of crap going on. And
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: of course, you know you also this morning are talking
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  Speaker 5: a lot about how the Bundy is being used, and
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  Speaker 5: that's always a favorite topic on this show. And and uh, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: it all comes down to who are we voting for?
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  Speaker 5: And uh, I don't I don't know what we can fix.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know what we can claw back and and
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  Speaker 5: bring back to normal things that used to be normal.
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  Speaker 5: And I'm not talking bringing them back because it's the
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  Speaker 5: way it used to be, and that's all I like,
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  Speaker 5: is the way it used to be. I'm talking about
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  Speaker 5: bringing back because it makes sense because it's reasonable. It's fair,
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  Speaker 5: you know it because it works for crying out loud,
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  Speaker 5: It works by by letting by having these traditional ways
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  Speaker 5: of doing things, not because they're traditional, but because they work,
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  Speaker 5: and we we have we just have to do a
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: better job of voting for the right people. And it
• 18:58
  Speaker 5: becomes more and more difficult because they lie to you. Uh,
• 19:02
  Speaker 5: you know, we got something like miss McConnell thing going on?
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: What what?
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  Speaker 2: What?
• 19:06
  Speaker 5: What is? What's the problem? He's not running for office again.
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  Speaker 5: I think that's already been made clear. He's not running
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  Speaker 5: for another term, So what's the problem. Why can't we
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  Speaker 5: at least say, hey, I'd rather see miss McConnell looking
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  Speaker 5: terrible in a hospital bed, but alive and well capable
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  Speaker 5: enough of carrying on a conversation. Maybe he says, you're wondering,
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  Speaker 5: is he dead or not?
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  Speaker 1: No, there you go. Or maybe he's so cognitively impaired
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  Speaker 1: as to render him incapable of performing his jobs as
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  Speaker 1: a senator. And I think maybe maybe here we go
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  Speaker 1: speculating because we won't say out loud where he is,
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  Speaker 1: what he's up to, and why, you know, why can't
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  Speaker 1: come up with a statement. Maybe they're afraid about having to,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: you know, find a replacement for Mitch before them in
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: the November election. Yeah, and giving a Democrat, maybe with
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: a little bit better name recognition than this unnamed replacement
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  Speaker 1: out there in the world, giving him an opportunity or
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: her an opportunity to take over that seat in the Senate.
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  Speaker 1: That that is a legitimate reaction to the silences. Definitely
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  Speaker 1: about where Mitch McConnell is. Is what I said possible?
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  Speaker 1: Of course, is it accurate? I have no idea. Thank
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: you Republicans whoever's in charge of Mitch McConnell for not
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  Speaker 1: letting us know what's really going on, right.
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  Speaker 5: And if they think that they can get away with
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  Speaker 5: this stuff, but they have to remember they're not Democrats.
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  Speaker 5: Republicans can't get away with this stuff. They don't have
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  Speaker 5: the multiple layers of society to back them up and
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  Speaker 5: protect them like Democrats do. They don't have the media
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  Speaker 5: or teachers' unions or any union for that matter that's
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  Speaker 5: going to help, you know, cover for them. It's just
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  Speaker 5: not the case. Democrats got away with this with Joe
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  Speaker 5: Biden for a while at least. I mean, Republicans can't
• 20:42
  Speaker 5: get away with this stuff. And that's just the political
• 20:45
  Speaker 5: world we live in, and it's crazy, it's ridiculous. But
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: moral of the story is people don't vote Democrats have
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  Speaker 5: a great day.
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  Speaker 1: I think you've touched around the edges of why we
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: shouldn't vote for some Republicans as well. Although going back
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: to We the People Convention dot org times out, this
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: is the November where you need to hold your nose
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  Speaker 1: and vote for the Republican, regardless of whether he or
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: she happens to well. Dot all your eyes and cross
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  Speaker 1: all your political teas because the alternative, any Democrat, and
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: we've seen this happen over and over again, is not
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: going to reject or or express much, if any opposition
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  Speaker 1: to this insanity from the farthest left reaches of the
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  Speaker 1: Democrat Party, and there are a lot of them that
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: are in there already. These far left call it woke.
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: One call it woke too. You know what we're talking
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: about here, socialism, come Marxism, communism. The financial reality of
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  Speaker 1: what they want to implement is impossible. I mean, I'm
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: just talking about Sosa's security being completely out of money.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: It's going to stop taking full payments in twenty thirty two.
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  Speaker 1: That's just a clicking time away. We can't even cover
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  Speaker 1: the nut on that, and yet we have seventy to
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  Speaker 1: two hundred trillion dollars in additional DSA platform. Well, going
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: back to the Democrats, whoever you vote Democrat is going
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: to be voting in favor of that to the extent
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: any legislation along those lines gets advanced. They're great at
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: their unity. They're unified against they're unified in favor of
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: potentially I'll go back to Tom's point batcrap and saying policies,
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: but they're unified behind them. Well. Notable exception, John Fetterman,
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't rely on many Fettermans within the Democrat Party
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  Speaker 1: to save us from the collective will of the Democrats
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  Speaker 1: to move further and further left. That comes at a
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  Speaker 1: huge price. Five thirty five fifty five KRC de Talk stations.
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  Speaker 1: Some good stack of stupid stories, a lot of stupid
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  Speaker 1: people over the past week, and got some of those
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  Speaker 1: to talk about coming up next or phone calls. Either
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  Speaker 1: way we go to say okay with me, either way,
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  Speaker 1: I will be back. This is fifty five KRC and
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  Speaker 1: five Kasity talk station. Oh look, Stack is stupid. You
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  Speaker 1: can call if you want particularly bizarre. Stack is stupid.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's a flag for this one either, Joe,
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  Speaker 1: maybe you can correct check the record on a lah
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  Speaker 1: Dave Chappelle. Ain't no flag for us. We have we
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  Speaker 1: go to Virginia Beach, Virginia. Involuntary manslaughter charges filed against
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: a nineteen year old ember Rose mcspadden charges them from
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: an incident happened during the early morning of March third
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  Speaker 1: at the residence of Shane Brooks Cornet. Court documents. Mcspadden
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  Speaker 1: admitted to a detective during an interview that she and
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  Speaker 1: her partner, Shane Brooks, who was twenty six, were consensually
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  Speaker 1: partaking in rough foreplay with firearms and there's no flag
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  Speaker 1: for us there it is. That's a determination by Joe Shacker,
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  Speaker 1: thank you Joe, with firearms, and that she shot Brooks hmm.
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Family and friends filled the courtroom listening to testimony revealing that,
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: according to detective, Shane Brooks and mcspaden were in a
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: quote sexual relationship clothes quote, with mcspaden calling the relationship
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: friends with benefits. What detective testified that they used guns
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  Speaker 1: and knives during foreplay. Prosecutor say that all together there
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  Speaker 1: were seven guns inside the home, not stated specifically whether
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  Speaker 1: all seven guns were used in the foreplay. Rituals autopsy
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  Speaker 1: showed Brooks died from a single gun shot wounded the
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  Speaker 1: head from under his chin. As testamenty from the detective
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  Speaker 1: said that Shane Brooks hand him expad in a gun
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  Speaker 1: with one bullet loaded in it. Okay, the guy that
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: got shot handed the gun to the person that squeezed
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  Speaker 1: the trigger.
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  Speaker 7: Idiots doing idiot things because they're idiot is.
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  Speaker 1: I don't get the whole concept of four play with firearms,
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  Speaker 1: Joe Stragger, That's what's blowing my mind here. Never ever, ever,
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  Speaker 1: ever pointing a gun Eddie bus loaded firearm at anyone
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  Speaker 1: unless you intend to dispatch them. Mcspadden took the gun,
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  Speaker 1: fired it three times, counting down the clicks, and says
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  Speaker 1: here as to make sure the bullet would not be fired. Uh, okay,
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: if you can figure that one out, why don't you
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: let me know? Brooks died at the scene. After court,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: mcspadden's attorney, person named Artistia Gregg, made the statement, you ready,
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: this incident is a tragedy that my client deeply regrets
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: right throwaway, as evidence by her emotional reaction during our
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: hearing today, as the evidence presented in court demonstrated, this
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: was a tragic accident that my client had no intention
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: or foresight would occur. Now, I'll buy into the idea
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  Speaker 1: that this person did not have the intent to murder
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  Speaker 1: the other person with whom she was having sex, no
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  Speaker 1: foresight that it would occur. It was a loaded gun.
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  Speaker 1: You're squeezing the damn trigger while the guns pointed underneath
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  Speaker 1: the guy's chin, at his head. Lord Almighty, Sometimes it's
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: difficult being an attorney. All right, we go to Louisiana.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: We have a man allegedly shooting and killing his wife.
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  Speaker 1: Tyrone Brazil, fifty years old, arrested Thursday after police stopped
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  Speaker 1: him in downtown Memphis and found his fifty year old
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  Speaker 1: late wife, Linessa. Bradford, dead in the passenger seat from
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a gunshot. Won't a couple have been together at Independence
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  Speaker 1: Community Park in Baton Rouge, eighty miles northwest of New
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  Speaker 1: Orleans when an argument broke out. Brazil then allegedly shot
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  Speaker 1: his wife. This according to the Baton Roue's investigators. He
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  Speaker 1: then fled the scene with her body, driving for more
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  Speaker 1: than five hours through several states before the Memphis Police
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  Speaker 1: made the discovery that his wife was dead and he
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: was driving around with her. A longtime friend named Sheila Decker,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: speaking with local news, said they've been married for years,
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: recently had some fights, claimed Brazil was suffering from mental
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: health the guy that killed her allegedly, and that Bradford
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: had told her last month that she was going to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: be leaving him kind of question mark swirling about whether
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: she would really do it. And also the longtime fred
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  Speaker 1: said she did not believe that Tyron and Brazil would
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  Speaker 1: really actually harm her, although he had threatened to do that.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: As for why Brazil allegedly shot her and then drove
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: through multiple states with her body in the passenger seat
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  Speaker 1: this longtime from as, Decker said, she can't make any
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: sense of it, leaving us all in the exact same
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: boat on that one. Brazil booked it as a fugitive
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  Speaker 1: by the Memphis Police doing court today while awaiting extradition
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  Speaker 1: back to Louisiana. Once there, he is expected to face
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: murder charges in connection with Ms Bradford's death. Just walk away,
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: don't drive around multiple states with a body in the
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  Speaker 1: front seat, maybe suggesting some perhaps mental problems that person
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  Speaker 1: has anyway, problems perhaps pain lot the de talk station.
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  Speaker 1: It is five fifty here at fifty five cam see
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  Speaker 1: collars on the line. That's okay, that's what the stack is. Stupid.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: It's all about in five o'clock. How we all try
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: to wake up because all the kids are back in
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: school now. I still can't believe that, well, not all
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: of them, I suppose. Anyway, the indoctrination camp. I think
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: to refer to schools as indoctrination camps as we see
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: socialism as being more and more widely accept up there.
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: And how do you get to that point? We got
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: some stuff to talk about at the top of the
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  Speaker 1: our news. Meanwhile, back to the stack of stupid. Go
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: to Rockville, Indiana, where the Park County man is now
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  Speaker 1: facing charges because police say he drove more than ninety
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  Speaker 1: miles per hour and a fifty five wild drunk. That man,
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  Speaker 1: Douglas Farr the second he's forty four. This after a
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  Speaker 1: traffic stop on Highway thirty six. They say they observed
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  Speaker 1: far traveling over ninety miles per hour and fifty five
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  Speaker 1: on Highway thirty six. Far drove through storm damage in
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: the area, including some down trees and power lines. He
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: was stopped. Officers said they noticed signs that he may
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: have been impaired. Performed as field sobriety test. Far allegedly
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: more than twice the legal limit ninety fifty five. We
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: go to key West where a police officer with the
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: Key West Police Department is now facing DUI charges. Arrested
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Sunday morning Local News at Officer dustin Christina, forty, off
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: duty when authorities responded to the area of Period Court
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  Speaker 1: ten minutes after five in the morning after receiving complaints
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  Speaker 1: and finding him sitting in the driver's seat of a
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  Speaker 1: parked car. Official set of supervising officer investigator determined that
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  Speaker 1: was probable cost to arrest him for DUI taking to
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  Speaker 1: the Morreau County Detention Center without incident, on misdemeanor charges
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: of DUI and refusal to submit to DUI testing. That's
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: it on that one, all right, Joe, I think we
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  Speaker 1: have an award to give out. As I read this
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  Speaker 1: and think of Honor Fly tri State and the gorgeous
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  Speaker 1: thing that is Honor Fly, try State, you know, getting
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  Speaker 1: the World War Two veterans. We we have like only
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  Speaker 1: a handful left. It was the original reason for honor
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  Speaker 1: fly tri State fly him to Washington, DC so they
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: could see the World War Two memorial, which we now
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: find out has been vandalized. US Attorney for the District Columbia,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Genie Piro, announced Friday that our office is filing two
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: phony charges against Melissa Farrett Y depredation against property the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: United States and destruction of veterans memorials. The two charges
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: against her, they could land her in jail for ten years.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: On Thursday, she spray painted the words clean hands, dirty
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  Speaker 1: money on the monument. Also, the fountain apparently had been
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: well someone who poured bubble juice and it was bubbling.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: According the announcement, vandalizing a World War Two memorial is
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: a despicable attack on his sacred monument honoring the Americans
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: who fought and died for our freedom. Those Americans include
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: my father and grandfather. Puiro stated, So the World War
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  Speaker 1: Two Memorial in Washington has been vandalized with red pain
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: in bubbles. See the woman who was arrested and identified,
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: Melissa Ferris, posted the video on Thursday, where she's seen
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  Speaker 1: taking the spray paint from her bag and then painting
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  Speaker 1: on the momuent monument. Quote. I will wait here to
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  Speaker 1: be arrested for spraying our veterans fountain. It was me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm doing it. It's on camera close quote what woman
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  Speaker 1: in a separate post said she'd been to Washington, DC
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  Speaker 1: for three weeks that she would be turning herself in.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: The arrest warrant filed the case indicated the witness took
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: pictures of the vandalism occurring, which were circulating among US
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  Speaker 1: Park Police officers. One officer recognized the suspect as someone
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: they arrested on August tenth for unlawfully camping on federal
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: property just blocks away.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: She, of course, livestreamed that prior arrest. Suspect identified by
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: her Kentucky driver's license as the aforementioned Melissa Ferris of Elizabethtown, Kentucky.
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  Speaker 1: Veterans Foreign Wars called the vandalism an act of profound disrespect,
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: a slap in the face to the veterans who served
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: in sacrifice and to the families who carried that burden
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  Speaker 1: at home. Yes, let's double down on that statement and
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  Speaker 1: give her an award just Tracker Cue it up.
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  Speaker 3: Period is the biggest douche of the universe, in all
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  Speaker 3: the galaxies. There's no bigger douche than you. You've reached
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  Speaker 8: I'll be right back celebrating two hundred and fifty years
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  Speaker 8: of the Jumagioti pleads guilty of federal charges.
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  Speaker 1: There can be no celebrity in assassination arrested World War
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  Speaker 1: Two memorial vandal.
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  Speaker 6: It's to all the people who died for our country.
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  Speaker 1: my friend. Welcome to the Morning Show.
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  Speaker 8: Hey, good morning Brian.
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  Speaker 2: Hey.
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  Speaker 8: First of all, I just want to build on what
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: Tom's Dallas Towski said about this is the election where
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: you need to go hold your nose and vote.
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  Speaker 1: I was thinking about you when he said that, Jay,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: because I know how you feel about rhinos, for example.
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  Speaker 1: So here we go. The person that I was thinking
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: about that has to make this choice. Do you hold
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: your nose and vote for the Rhino, assuming we're talking
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: about one of those, or do you vote for the Democrat?
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: Do you just not vote in that particular race?
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  Speaker 8: Go ahead, Jay, Well, First of all, you have to vote.
• 35:03
  Speaker 6: You have to vote.
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: And I'm over fifty years old, and what I've realized
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: recently is I put way too much confidence in people,
• 35:14
  Speaker 8: and its specifically Republicans. This is not I love Tom's Alwastowski,
• 35:18
  Speaker 8: but this is not the first election where we have
• 35:21
  Speaker 8: to hold our nose. I go back in time and
• 35:22
  Speaker 8: I wrote down a quick list. Gerald Ford, George H. Bush,
• 35:26
  Speaker 8: George W. Bush, John McCain, Bob Dole, John Kasik two terms,
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: Mike de Wine two terms, and I could go on
• 35:33
  Speaker 8: and on and on and on and on, take up
• 35:35
  Speaker 8: the rest of the morning show talking about the times
• 35:38
  Speaker 8: we had to go to the poll, hold our nose
• 35:39
  Speaker 8: and vote for a rhino. But our option is, our
• 35:44
  Speaker 8: options are down to bad or evil, And as a
• 35:49
  Speaker 8: as a Christian, I've got to be part of the
• 35:51
  Speaker 8: team that's pushing back on evil. But I think also
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: we have to level our expectations of what we're voting for.
• 35:59
  Speaker 8: When we vote for these Republicans, we're voting for people,
• 36:02
  Speaker 8: We're voting for men, And as a Christian, we have
• 36:05
  Speaker 8: to understand that we're never going to get this right
• 36:09
  Speaker 8: till Christ returns. And we got to get our eyes
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: on him and understand that these people that we're disappointed in, Yeah,
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: me too. There's something that seems to be inherent. And
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: if you read the Book of Kings in the Bible,
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: it talks about all the kings of Israel that over
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: time they just kept getting worse, one after the other
• 36:28
  Speaker 8: after the other. And you have to ask yourself, why
• 36:30
  Speaker 8: was this put into the Bible? And I'm almost convinced
• 36:33
  Speaker 8: it's put into the Bible that there's something inherent with
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: people that when we give them power and authority, fame
• 36:38
  Speaker 8: and riches, that they're going to disappoint us. And so
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: we have to continue to vote. If you think, because
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: I know there's a lot of Republicans thinking, well, maybe
• 36:49
  Speaker 8: i'll just sit this one out because Republicans continue to
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: disappoint me, that's exactly what the left wants you to do.
• 36:55
  Speaker 8: Think about your kids, think about your grandkids, Think about
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: the legacy that when it goes full communism and they say, Grandpa,
• 37:03
  Speaker 8: what did you do whenever the Communists were taking over? Well,
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: I sat at home to to really teach.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: The Republicans a lesson.
• 37:11
  Speaker 8: And lastly, John Fetterman votes not with Donald Trump seventy
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: five percent of the time. So before we make this
• 37:18
  Speaker 8: guy a folk hero, check out his voting record, because
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: it's not good.
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  Speaker 2: He's you know, he.
• 37:25
  Speaker 8: Gets a lot of praise for being the one guy
• 37:28
  Speaker 8: with the evil Party who every once in a while
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: he decides to do something sane. But if we shouldn't
• 37:36
  Speaker 8: give him too much credit because he doesn't deserve it.
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: Just just check his voting record out on one of
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: the conservative voting platforms and you'll see he votes with
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: Trump like twenty five percent of the time, which equals
• 37:46
  Speaker 8: seventy five percent of the time. He doesn't heritage gives
• 37:48
  Speaker 8: him an f And just go take a look at
• 37:51
  Speaker 8: the key things that he votes on and to.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Kind of level set us.
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, so don't vote I mean, here's what I'd say,
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: don't vote evil, don't vote Democrat. Tom Dallastowski's right, Stay
• 38:02
  Speaker 8: in the fight, folks, stay in the fight. And we've
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: got two choices, bad or evil.
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I acknowledge your point on Fetterman, And I'm
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: not suggesting you know, he is a folk hero, but
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: he is one of a very very limited number of
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: people in the Democrat Party who are raising alarms about
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: this woke nonsense. I mean, I alluded to the fact
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: that governorsheer seems to be on the the centrist side
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: of this argument. He even said it the other day and
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: faced the nation. He called socialism a failed experience experiment,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: which I like those words coming out of his mouth.
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: Since he is one of the primary or at least off
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: sided Democrat nominees for president. He may very well be
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: president someday, so he hasn't completely lost his mind. But
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: you know, one of the points he makes on this
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: and allows me to pivot over to another point that
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: I wanted to make. He went on to say, people
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: are struggling stating the obvious. They're seeing a system that
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: doesn't work for them. Now, I'll acknowledge your point about leaders.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: You know, absolute power corrupts absolutely, but broader on that
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: one I would like to make for a pivot over
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: is see, you know, as human beings, we think that
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: we are going to have someone else solve life's problems
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: for us. Let's tay you get an ever growing government.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: The problems of the world and through life never ever
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: go away, and the greatest decision maker in dealing with
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: the problems and struggles that you face is well. Of
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: course you you are most in tune and familiar with
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: what the problems are in your world. You know, I mean,
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: you can blame the system, but this is the system
• 39:28
  Speaker 1: that we find ourselves in. Just throw your hands up
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: and just resign yourself that I am totally screwed. I'm
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: not gonna participate. I hate this. We're all screwed. It's
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: not worth it. Then, you know, the control freaks end
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: up winning. You don't participate, you don't pay into the system,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: you don't have a stake in the game. You're just
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: stuck in a perpetual state of misery, battled up in
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: a fetal position. More and more people are finding themselves
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: in that position. But you know, Bill Maher made a
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: great point on this the other day. You know, you
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: really don't have it as bad as you think you do.
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: It was in the context they think of him talking
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: about a burrito or something, the affordability of a burrito.
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: This is made a viral bud. It's gone viral online.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: The burrito gate thing is what they're calling it. Of course,
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: they do about a twenty dollar burrito. Some kid like,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: oh my god, I can't believe this twenty bucks. He's like, oh,
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: give me a break. You can get one for two bucks.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: Go buy one of the supermarket. How about making it yourself.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: You're looking at the price of a burrito delivered to
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: your front door. For God's sake, it has an uber
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: charge built in a you lazy little twit. And then
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: he went out talked about some reality concerning today's young
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: people versus previous generations. He says, this is this from
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the FED, the Fed the statistics. He says, two thirds
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: of Americans consider grocery used to be unaffordable. Maybe they are,
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: but wages rose in the last decade, including the pandemic,
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: forty six percent. Food prices rose thirty four Wages therefore
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: outpaced them by the number is what we spend on
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: food at the beginning of the last century. This is
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: crazy right here, the improvements in our lives that are
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: unnoticed by all of us. What we spent on food
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: in the beginning of the last century, forty two percent
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: of our budget went to food. Then you go through
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: the years nineteen sixty five, it was down to fifteen percent.
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  Speaker 1: Now the percentage of our income going to food is
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: only ten percent, including eating out more, which is more expensive.
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: It's cheaper to cook it at home. He also went on.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: He said, as also gen Z, I never realized this
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: until people started writing about it. As they gen Z
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: reached their late twenties, they're getting much richer than gen
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: X was. They don't even realize they have an advantage
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: over the prior generation. Millennials of gen Z. At age thirty,
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: their net worth is around one hundred and eighteen grand
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: gen X it was fifty three thousand. About half these
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: went to the gen X never complain. Yeah, you gotta
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: love gen X. They're the quietest, blanking church mice. And
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: then the suggestion that kids are way too entitled. They
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: think they deserve things like food delivery. Also on top
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: of which have it being a four stable, no sense
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: of perspective, no sense of contrast. And maybe the earlier
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: generations gen X didn't complain much because they realized how
• 42:11
  Speaker 1: much better under our flawed is it maybe capitalist system?
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: We at least could look to the Soviet Union and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: the breadlines and the want and the starvation and the oppression. Yeah,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: you had a barometer right there, a moral barometer, a
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: political system barometer. And since the threat of the Soviet
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: Union went away and the embrace of the Chinese Communist Party.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Since the Nixon administration, we weren't comparing and contrasting. Our
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: schools became more woke. Colleges of course, just started churning
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: out k through twelve educators who were indoctrinated into this
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: socialist mindset that's pervasive on campus. And it was creeping
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: in even when I was back in college, nowhere near
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: the way it is now. I mean, you can't find
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: a conservative, yes, or anymore. Of course, they're churning out
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: k through twelve educators that are all full on comedy.
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: And in the collapse of the post Soviet collapse, you
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: got Hollywood going full on commedy. The Soviet you neion
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: not being around anymore. The woke ideology has gone into Hollywood.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's interesting because Hollywood used to perpetuate
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: and support the whole idea of a Judeo Christian ethic.
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: They also supported the idea of a strong American military.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Go back and look at some of the what I
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: could argue properly so propaganda films turned out during World
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: War Two and during the Cold War, the height of propaganda.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: You know, all of the the information call it in doctrination,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: which is the boildown word I used. Was on one
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: side of the overall political ledger capitalism better than socialism
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: and communism. But as the more and more and more
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: the K through twelve educators became more and more woke,
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: as kids went on to college more often than not.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, we have more college seeking kids than we
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: used to because we were all told that the recipe
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: for success is a college education. There you go. You
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: got four more years or even more of indoctrination becomes
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: very hard to convey a message. When you used to
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: have all these folks and all these entities, there were
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: only three television channels on the press still had some
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: measure of credibility and hadn't gone full on Welcomember back
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: when the New York Times the Old Grade Lady was
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: considered one of the greatest sources of information. It was
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: it just it ultimately became an op ed piece for
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: wokeism in four left wing politics. All of this happened
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: over time. So you have this massive indoctrination, a complex
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: convincing our children that socialism is better than capitalism. And
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: now we have yet one more new poll out CBS
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: News You Gov survey released over the weekend, fifty eight
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: percent to thirty two percent. What fifty eight percent of
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: Democrats view socialism positively only thirty two percent positive view
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: of capitalism. And you know the growing ranks of Democrats,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: that's a growing rank of people in the United States
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: of America who represent a true existential threat to our
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: country's existence. The folks that want to have more government,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: larger programs, more spending. While forty trillion, that's our current
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: number for the national debt keeps getting bigger and bigger
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: and bigger under both administrations and without any new policies.
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: Do you see these spiraling out of control reality that
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: this is. And it's all because I think our children
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: and a lot of people going through this whole education
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: process are really dumb. Maybe that was by design, but
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: you churn out a woke child who doesn't have the
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: fundamental skills, cannot perform mathematics or read. You have a
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: person that's incapable of well, not only doing that decision
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: making on the front line, making the proper decision thoughtfully
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: and logically, turning their hands therefore, or turning the decisions
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: therefore over to elected officials. You have people that even
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: if they wanted to, couldn't go out and land a
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: job because well, they lack the core life skills needed
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: to even live, thrive and survive in any economy. Six
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  Speaker 1: eighteen fifty five k C the talk station. Get in
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  Speaker 1: touch with my friends at Cullen Electric Andrew the talk
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  Speaker 1: Station five KRCD Talk Station. Here's a story supporting my
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: conclusion that the leftist, socialist, slash woke ideology that's crept
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: into our education system over the years is well destroying
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: our children and destroying their future. At great illustration, we
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: got at Berkeley, Berkeley, Berkeley, California, well, you know, full
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: on left wing commedy institution, that is, and it has
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: been a long long time Berkeley mathematics professor describing his
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: students as woefully unprepared when they arrive at college. Why
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: because the University of California's K through twelve systems, progressive
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: test blind policies have undermined the student and proven disastrous.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Zavidlinia close enough, Zved's Dealina, that's a first name, Stankova,
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: Professor Stankova, make it easier, said, three days a week,
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: I stand in front of lecture halls with five hundred
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: and fourteen hundred students by the second week of the semester,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: I already know who is in trouble. Some students are
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: five to eight years behind in mathematics. Office hours that
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: should be spent discussing integrals instead become lessons on fractions
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: and basic algebra. You would expect students to learn in
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: middle school. He's talking about college age kids here. He
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: is not alone. It's according to Fox News reporting, thousands
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: of faculty members across the ten University of California campuses
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: have already signed onto open letters urging the system to
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: reinstate SAT and ACT admissions now under former University of
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: California President Janet Apolitano, no relation to the judge who
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: also had deserved on. The Obama administration led the way
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty phase out of the standardized testing
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: in part out of are You Ready Right equity concerns,
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: and according to Professor Stankova, since then, admission officers have
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: been forbidden from considering the one standardized measure that provided
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: a common academic benchmark across thousands of high schools. He
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: noted a sharp decline in math student math readiness after
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: usee stopped considering standardized tests. So you, between twenty eighteen
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: and twenty twenty when they had them, seventy one percent
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: of the Calculus one students tested were ready or nearly ready.
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: From twenty twenty one to twenty twenty three, only fifty
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: one percent were ready or near ready. They felled a
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: forty four percent in twenty twenty three. And get a
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: load of this, seventeen percent of the college age kids
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: taking the standardized test answered none of the eight tested
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: topics correctly. Almost one in five of those tests that
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: could not answer a single question properly. They've been through
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: the entire K through twelve education system and they can't
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: even master some basic concepts in this. Isn't that just awful?
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, these are products of the K through twelve
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: education system where they were advanced every single grade. And
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: he talks about being five to eight years behind in mathematics,
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: So every year they continued to be advanced to the
• 49:38
  Speaker 1: next grade level in spite of the fact they hadn't
• 49:40
  Speaker 1: mastered the skill sets of the lower grade level. Who's
• 49:43
  Speaker 1: doing a disservice to our children? How did this possibly
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: become a thing in the United States of America. Could
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: this not be viewed and so go ahead and call
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: me a conspiracy theorist, Good morning morning. Could this not
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: be a concerted effort to just well intentionally create ignorant
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: children in the name of equity. We're all going to
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: be dumb. One size fits all in terms of stupid
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: because some people, I guess they're smarter than others. It's
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: amazing that, you know, and that actually comes up in
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: the context of this transgender clash. Get a load of this,
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: and I know I'm going a long Joe, but I
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: wanted to make this exclamation point. There's actually a debate
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: out there.
• 50:27
  Speaker 7: You know.
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: This is like ninety percent of the saying arguing with
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: ten percent of the lunatic over when men whether men
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: can participate in women's sports. So you have the logical
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: and sensible, reasonable side. One person quoted is saying, it's
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: all right, if you want to be what you want
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: to be, you shouldn't be competing against women and you're
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: a man biologically, it's an advantage, right, That's the reality
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: called chromosomal reality. Another person disagreed. Here's the sum up
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: of the disagreement. Going back to my point about maybe
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: some people are smarter than others. Quote. I feel like
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: a transgender woman should be able to play in women's sports.
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: They might have been a man before, but they're trans
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: they're changing into a woman. That's not the point I
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: want to make. So why not play a woman's sport?
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: Question mark? Here's the rest of the quote. Like, they're
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: not gonna let her play in men's sports, right, They
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: will let her compete in men's sports because they know
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: that she represents no physical threat to women, because men
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: are traditionally and largely smarter or rather stronger and bigger
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: than men. Could it not be that? Well, here's the
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: other one. This is the one I'm sorry I want
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: to get to. Also argue that biological advantages are different
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: differentiated by specific genetics of every individual, rather than the
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: entire gender biological advantage to the X and the Y chromosome.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: Could it beat it? But we have differences in cognitive
• 51:42
  Speaker 1: ability out there as well, between different people. On the
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: heels of someone arguing that, well, some women can be
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: beat men in sports, some women are stronger than men. Yeah,
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: largely that isn't the case, though, From time to time
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: you got a woman who can outbeat them, or can
• 51:58
  Speaker 1: beat a man in sports, but usually it's not the case.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Some people are different than others. I think ultimately we
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: can take away from this. You can't change that. But
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: that's where the equity folks come in. Because people differ
• 52:14
  Speaker 1: in their abilities, physical, mental, across the board. We need
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: to make everyone everyone equal and that since that can't
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: be done, I guess we're just gonna dumb everybody down.
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: We're not gonna put the time and effort into the
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: really smart kids in the class. They're gonna excel anyway.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: We're gonna spend all of our time doing remedial this
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: and that, or just minding the time as we advanced
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: them through the next grade, ensuring that when they graduate
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: from high school, they're all gonna be idiots, incapable of
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: caring and feeding for themselves. A sorry six twenty nine,
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  Speaker 1: fifty five KRS DE Talk station. Maybe you think I'm
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  Speaker 1: wrong six thirty four or fifty five Krcity talk Station.
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: Sorry for the long winded rambling and going over in
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  Speaker 1: time in the last segment. Do us some local stories here?
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  Speaker 1: Just Dreker flagging Another one just reported this morning yesterday
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  Speaker 1: too thirty the more we have another shooting Good morning,
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: Christopher Smithman, who be on the program in an hour
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: from now. Since the police investigated over nine shooting Walnut
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Hills left one person with potentially life threatening injuries two
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: thirty am Sunday morning, right there at Gilbert and Curtis Street.
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: Having additional details first responders got there. They said one
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: person was taken to a nearby hospital with critical injuries.
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: They're still investigating and no information about a possible suspect
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: at this time. We also have a police shooting here
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: since at green Township police killed a man who kidnapped
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: a staffer a Mercy West hospital. Happened on Saturday. Adam Henny,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: interim police chief, said the man identified his twenty three
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: year old Timothy Cromwell, led police on a chase ended
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  Speaker 1: in work Road in Green Township right near our lady
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: of the visitation church. Cromwell apparently knew the woman he kidnapped,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: stole or car after he abducted her. Chief Andy said
• 53:52
  Speaker 1: the woman was able to text her family let them
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: know what was happening. Number called nine one one about
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: four pm relay the information police and after that he
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: spotted this guy in Westwood, tried to pull him over
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: but he refused. In a forty five minute pursuit into
• 54:04
  Speaker 1: Green Township followed. Henny said, officers deployed multiple sets of
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: stop sticks to slow him down. It didn't work. Cromwell accordingly,
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Apparently eventually officers were able to use the armor of
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: a swat truck to stop him near the church. To
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: see what that looks like on video anyway, a cord
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: to the body camera footage it was released, officers are
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: seen advancing with pistols drawn on the Nissan he was driving.
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Cromwell launched from the driver's seat holding what police later
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: showed was a red Swiss Army style multi tool with
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: a two inch blade. That was enough to do it, though, too,
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: since eight police officers and one Green Township officer opened
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: fire and Cromwell collapsed to the ground got up a
• 54:52
  Speaker 1: little bit. One more round was fired. That's when he
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: collapsed face down, Henny said, describing the video. They continued
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: to fire until the threat ended, which is what they do.
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: He had previous arrests for reduction, aggravated menacing, menacing by stalking.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: He was currently on probation for abduction and menacing by stalking.
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: Okay and rest assured the Cincinnati Citizens Complain Authority as
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: well as the police Department of Internal Affairs Unit will
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: be doing parallel investigations into the shooting. Six thirty six
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  Speaker 1: a moment. After I mentioned my friends at zero station
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  Speaker 1: with the education topic, you know, and I think more
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  Speaker 1: and more our students are are well with K through
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: twelve education, just not focusing on the core fundamentals that
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: we need in life, reading and writing and arithmetic. Rather
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: they're focusing on social issues. Shocking no one Brian Thomas's comments.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: There are no kidding Thomas. I got another illustration of this.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: I had one from London the other day from the
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  Speaker 1: United Kingdom where they were taking their children's to mosques
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  Speaker 1: and sort of kind of advocating for the Muslim faith. Well,
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  Speaker 1: that's one thing. Over in the UK we have a
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  Speaker 1: separation of church and state. Here it's the First Amendment,
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  Speaker 1: free exercise of religion and no establishment clause. I let
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  Speaker 1: them argue about that all day long in the court.
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  Speaker 1: But you want your children doing field trips to mosques
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  Speaker 1: where your young daughters, your students who are are female
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  Speaker 1: are encouraged to where he jobs and where all the
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  Speaker 1: students are given qurans, like a little prostialization. Coming from
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: the California high schools where they have been sued. There's
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  Speaker 1: a group out there that represents some Jewish parents of
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  Speaker 1: the Apollo Alo High School. Of the high school, there's
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  Speaker 1: three former Jewish students, a Hindu parent and a zoroasterin
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  Speaker 1: parent al suing the school district because well, the school
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  Speaker 1: district took their children to a mosque and exposed the
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  Speaker 1: idea that Islam was aligned with social justice work. It's
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  Speaker 1: their complaint, man, I'm just reading what's been written here.
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  Speaker 1: The groups called the Community Members for Religious Neutrality in
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Public Schools said that students in the school's social Justice
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  Speaker 1: Pathway program, they've got one of those. There's a problem
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  Speaker 1: with the California schools right there. They have a social
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  Speaker 1: Justice Pathway program. Anyway, within that program, they thought it
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  Speaker 1: was necessary to take children to a mosque glass Fall
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  Speaker 1: where they were handed korans. While female students were indeed
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  Speaker 1: encouraged where HE jobs. Lawsuit also alleged photos of the
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  Speaker 1: students were taken and posted online without any parental consent.
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  Speaker 1: Superintendent there Jason Glass, speaking with local news, said he'd
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  Speaker 1: read the complaint couldn't verify any allegations, but did say
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  Speaker 1: that any religious teachings must be academic and not devotional.
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: Noting that HE jobs are typically only worn by practicing
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  Speaker 1: Muslim women and girls. He said the district's reviewing their practices.
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  Speaker 1: They're also the complained to llegen of the students were
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  Speaker 1: exposed to a woman named Zara Billeux, executive director of
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  Speaker 1: the Bay Area Care Council on aglomic Orations of Department,
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  Speaker 1: who has previously urged supporters to hide their hatred of
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: Zionists and social media posts. Here's a problem, she said.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Now imagine your LinkedIn profile says I hate Zionists, not
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: strategic right. You may say that sitting around the Kawa
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  Speaker 1: House on a Friday night, but you're not gonna say
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  Speaker 1: it out loud on your LinkedIn in. Other words, don't
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: reject hatred and outright hatred of Jews. Just mind your
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: social media posts and don't let the world know how
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: much you hate them. That's messaging. This is the person
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  Speaker 1: that was responsible for encouraging these high schools to take
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  Speaker 1: the kids of the mosque in the first place. She
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: argued that students' participation was voluntary and that they were
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: taught about Islamic religious practices, and accused the parents of
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  Speaker 1: not wanting their children to learn about others. Now, let
• 59:02
  Speaker 1: me ask you this, while on this trip, did the
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  Speaker 1: children learn about the widespread belief among the Islamic community
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  Speaker 1: to hate Jews generally speaking for the eradication of Israel
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  Speaker 1: as a widely shared concept. Did they learn about that
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  Speaker 1: hatred when they went there? Do they presuppose that the
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  Speaker 1: Jewish students that were going to the mosque had been
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  Speaker 1: brought up in a home where they were taught to
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  Speaker 1: hate Islam. Maybe those Jewish students came from families that
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  Speaker 1: didn't even believe in the establishment of Israel's the state.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: There are a lot of Jewish people who believe in that.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: They happen to be Jewish, but they don't believe in
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  Speaker 1: Israel as a concept. That's okay. Did you talk about
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: all those concepts as well? Are you going to a
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  Speaker 1: well a synagogue? Are you going to spread the information
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  Speaker 1: about the Jewish religion, for one, but people generally speaking,
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: is there equity there?
• 59:50
  Speaker 4: I doubt it?
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: But was this trip really necessary? Considering the California schools
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  Speaker 1: the epicenter of that last article I read where children
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  Speaker 1: are five to eight years behind in math by that
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  Speaker 1: time they landed Berkeley. Maybe they should have been spending
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  Speaker 1: time on field trips at Mosque. Maybe they should have
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  Speaker 1: been buckling down on mathematical studies or reading or writing
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  Speaker 1: or something that would benefit these children. As they moved
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  Speaker 1: through light KARC the talk station seven six at fifty
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  Speaker 1: five krsite talk stations lightend or not, it's Monday. I
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: always like Monday's because the next segment Christopher smithmen former
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: vice mayor of the City of Cincinnati, and probably will
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: have a thing or two to say about the lawsuit
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: file by former fire Chief Washington against the City of Cincinnati.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: Cheryl Long now exposed to personal liability. Boy, that is
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: a frighting position to be in. So we'll hear what
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Chris Faez to say, whether wants talk about that or
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: not anybody's guests, including mine, But he did send me
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: the court opinion from that most recent development of the
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Chief Washington litigation against the city and he's got a
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: green light to move forward. Money Money with Brian James.
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: Fast forward one hour Monday at eight oh five, we
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: hear from All Or Financials Brian James. They will talk
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: about inflation dropping and maybe mortgage rates as well. I
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: saw the tick done in a mortgage rate fed maybe
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: maybe moving in the direction of a rate hike. In September,
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: we have second quarter earnings reports coming out. We got
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: a few more trick lineing to talk about. Plus the
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: national debt forty trillion dollars. Yeah, you know I mentioned
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: so is security running out of money? And that's a
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: real genuine thing that looks like our elected officials is
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: going to actually have to deal with at this point.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Whether they do or not remains to be seen. But
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: we got a ticking time bomb in that one, and
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 1: you got a forty trillion dollars debt already. And going
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: back to the November elections being so critically important, no,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: you are not going to get the candidate you want.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Ideally there will be no perfect person to vote for.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: But if you want to save this country, hopefully there's
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: only one party to vote for that at least pays
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: Lip service to and you know where I'm going pays
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 1: lip service to some measure of fiscal responsibility and getting
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: a handle on this national debt. Of course it's the Republicans.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 1: Have they done that? Have they been reliably in favor
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: of fiscal responsibility? No, this is my lament, This is
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: so many people's lament, Like every time go back to
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 1: the wall, We're gonna get some fiscal responsibility. Oh, wailing
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: national TV. We can't cut, we can't cut. So we
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: continue to fund at least at the minimum the prior
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: year's funding levels, which always go up and always have
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: a built in and increase in expenditures. Great, so forty
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: trillion will quick become forty two or forty three or
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: even forty five by the time, maybe forty six by
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the time Trump leaves office. And one can only hope
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: and pray that after November, if the Republicans are able
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: to keep things in place. First off, you know you
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: will not get more of these bulgue policies, which costs
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: so much extra bloody money. Force our Democrat friends who
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: are pushing in that direction, or at least not resisting
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: the idea of more government spending, ask them, please, dear God,
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: how they expect to pay for it taxes is not
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: the answer. Crunch the numbers. Cato Institute did it last week,
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: crunching the numbers, pointing out take every single dollar available
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: from every single millionaire a billionaire in all the corporations.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: It still won't cover the nut. The math doesn't work out.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: That's as simple. Well, that's right. Nobody knows how to
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: do math anymore, do they.
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  Speaker 4: Huh?
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: Going back to my concerns for the future of America,
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: illustrated by the failure of our public school systems. Maybe intentionally,
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: children don't know how to do math. So I guess
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: when you tell them for the trillion dollars, they don't
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: even know what a trillion is, let alone a billion.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: Don't understand concept of interest, I guess. And we'll buy
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: into the concept of throwing more government money if things
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: will actually solve problems.
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: We don't have a great track record for that, do we.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: And pivoting away from that, Sorry about that. Plus, State
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: Representati Mark Kin is going to join us at eight
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: forty talk about the property tax relief bill. Trying to
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: get ahead of us voting out property taxes in the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: state of Ohio. Does this sound like a red flag
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: to you? Trump, this one, I haven't said it yet.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: Pivoting over. Sorry, I guess I should have been more
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: clear on that. You may have heard in the earlier
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: news top of our news. President Trump said yesterday he
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: told Pete hegzeth Or Secretary that we are going to
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  Speaker 1: substantially reduce the joint military exercises with South Korea, which
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: had been going on for years and years and years.
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  Speaker 1: The ULCI Freedom Shield Exercise, it's an annual event scheduled
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  Speaker 1: to begin today, go for eleven days. You got eighteen
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: thousand South Korean troops. You've got United States joining in
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: the fund and actually paying for most of it. Trump
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: pointed out nod Pitot because this is what Trump had
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: to say. Obviously, you do military drills of South Korea
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: because of the threat that North Korea supposedly has against
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  Speaker 1: the rest of the world. How many years did you
• 1:05:11
  Speaker 1: hear about North Korea not getting a bomb? This is
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  Speaker 1: one of the things that we fought for for years
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  Speaker 1: and years. We actually engaged in South exercises with South Korea,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: flexing the military might so the North Koreans will get well,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: an eyeball full of what is coming their way should
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: they invade South Korea. But then again there was that,
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: remember the iterations of the Kim Jong ills and owns
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  Speaker 1: of the world, we need to stop them from a
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: nuclear weapon. Well they've got one. North Korea has nuclear weapons,
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 1: an estimated stockpile of fifty to sixty nuclear war warheads.
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  Speaker 1: They withdrew from the Nuclear non Proliferation Treaty back in
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: two thousand and three. They've already conducted six or underground
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 1: nuclear test explosions historically that went back between twenty six
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: and twenty seventeen, so they were able to blow up
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: nuclear bombs underground. Guess what, North Korea's got bombs. They
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: haven't launched them in anybody yet. Making that same argument
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: with Iranians right now, as you well know. But he said,
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  Speaker 1: based on my very good relationship with Kim Jong un
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  Speaker 1: of North Korea, I'm not happy with the fact that
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: the United States has long ago agreed to participate in
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: joint military exercises with South Korea, pointing out that much
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: of the expense is in fact born by the United States.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Maybe they have them pay for half of it, I
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: don't know, but he claimed they sent an inappropriate and
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: hostile message to North Korea and concluded therefore, and based
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  Speaker 1: on the fact that it is too late to cancel,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 1: I've instructed Secretary of Warpete Hegsath to substantially reduce the
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  Speaker 1: joint military exercises. Now, these joint exercises go all the
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: way back to nineteen seventy six, and some including you're
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: speculating that you know, yes, it's expensive, it's costly. I
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: suppose one can make a diplomatic argument that yes, they
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 1: do send an inappropriate and hostile message. But isn't that
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  Speaker 1: what the point of them was? For so many years
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  Speaker 1: you did want to send a threatening message to the
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  Speaker 1: North Koreans. Mind yourself or you're going to feel the
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  Speaker 1: wrath of this military might. But when you're doing military
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: exercises which involve live fire, yes there's a huge expense
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: that comes with it. But amid swirling concerns that America's
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: military is running out of supplies, most notably the missiles, drones,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: and long and short range hardware we need to wage war, like,
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: for example, against the Iranians, maybe we can't afford to
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: engage in military exercises with South Korea, whether or not
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: they provide any benefit, training benefit cannot be denied. But
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 1: this whole political thing, the flexing of the muscle as
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  Speaker 1: a warning shot to the intended recipient of that which
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  Speaker 1: is North Korea? Is it necessary anymore? We can still
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: have all of these discussions, but somewhere in boiling in
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  Speaker 1: behind all this question mark about us pulling out of
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: these exercises or at least limiting our footprint in them.
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  Speaker 1: Do we have enough hardware? Can we go after the
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  Speaker 1: Iranians and make good on threats to the extent we
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  Speaker 1: make them? Note we haven't for the past a couple
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  Speaker 1: of months, on again, off again negotiations, non negotiations, and
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: it has been widely reported that the Iranians have not
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  Speaker 1: been sitting on their hands during this period of relative calm.
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  Speaker 1: That they have been I know the fact they've been
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: launching weapons or they've been launching attacks. That's part of
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: their new strategy. It's been revealed, yes, escalation behind the scenes,
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: giving the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps more control over the
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  Speaker 1: country's regular army, rebuilding supplies of drones and missiles. Apparently
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: intercept the Communication and intelligence said this strategic shift, moving
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: away from negotiations into a more hardline position, expanding the
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: battlefield to the Red Sea, planning and preparing for and
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: actually launching attacks against our golf allies, including Kuwait and Jordan,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 1: and preparing to deal with the long term economic challenges
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: that we currently are in in terms of the war,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: we've pivoted over to an economic devastation of Iran. That's
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: where Donald Trump is right now. A lot of sources
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  Speaker 1: are saying they are ready to meet that challenge. They
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: will suffer economically, but they're able to continue fighting against
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: the United States with these little tiny strikes and continue
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: the conflict and keep the straight closed. And if they
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: start bombing Jordan and all the other Arab nations, including
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia, which they have been and are ramping up
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  Speaker 1: to do more, it doesn't take much by way of
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: drone strikes and sneaking a couple of missiles in to
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: do some serious harm. They're going after the Saudis and
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: the other oil producing countries oil production, yeah, economically, attempting
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: to ruin their countries by bombing their oil production facilities.
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  Speaker 1: So new strategy. Yes, can they rise to the challenge, yes,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: ap hears so can they hold out past November? Because
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: this war is wildly unpopular here in the United States.
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  Speaker 1: You know, damn well, the Iranians are salivating over that
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  Speaker 1: opportunity because look, if Trump loses the House and loses
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: the Senate, of course there will be legislation passed to
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: try to curb his war powers. He may very well
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: veto anything legislati that comes out. But the more and
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 1: more unpopular this war is, the more and more likely
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: it is that maybe there will be some Republican defectors,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: because there already are some people that don't want to
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: be in this conflict anyway. Well, they have enough votes
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: to override a principal at presidential veto and pull the
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 1: United States troops out of the region and end conflict
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: with the Iranians. It's an interesting thought question, isn't it
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  Speaker 1: seven sixteen right now? If you five krs the talk
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  Speaker 1: station Christopher Smithmen coming up naxty five the talk station
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: seven on a Monday. It's the time of week. I'm
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: always looking forward to get the benefit of the logic
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: and reasonable Christopher Smithman, who is former Vice mayor of
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati. He's a businessman, financial planner, so
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: he knows his numbers. Thank god, Christopher Smithman, Welcome back,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 1: my friend. Always love talking with.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 2: You, Brian, thanks for having me on. Today's show is
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 2: for me today, Brother, is all about Chief Michael Washington.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 2: This is the fire chief that I've been talking about
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  Speaker 2: on your show for years, and he was the fire chief.
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  Speaker 2: He was terminated three years ago. The city appealed Judge
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 2: Cole's case. Are his decisions probably the better way to
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 2: say it, and a three panel federal judge smacked the
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: city down last week, and I mean in a very
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 2: pointed way, so you know, again not being a lawyer,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 2: but here's here's what I read from it. Number One,
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 2: the city manager did not tell the truth. The city
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: manager's deposition was was was inconsistent, right, and so they
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 2: didn't say she lied, okay, but they said she wasn't truthful.
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  Speaker 2: Number Two, the judges said no immunity. So city of
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati has no immunity and the city manager personally has
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 2: no immunity. And this is like like they they're they're
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 2: trying to figure out why the city manager did not
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 2: listen to her own lawyers. Her lawyers said essentially, hey,
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 2: don't do this or don't do it this way, and
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 2: she basically was like, I'm the boss, I'm running this,
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 2: I'm doing it my way. He's out of here. I'm
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: firing him.
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  Speaker 6: And the federal judges said, you.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 2: Can't do that. You can't do that. This man's this
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 2: man has a right and you have violated his constitutional rights.
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 2: And so we're going to send this back to the
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 2: lower court with a SmackDown. And all of the facts
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 2: regarding wrongful termination have been determined, So we're not debating
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 2: any more public taxpayer, whether Chief Washington was wrongfully terminated.
• 1:13:38
  Speaker 2: It has been determined and it has been codified by
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 2: judges three or three panel judge federal court. And now
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: we're down to Brian. What is the city going to
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 2: pay and what is the process to get into that number?
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  Speaker 6: So are they.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Are they going to do arbitration option one? Are is
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 2: there going to be jury trial? But the arbitration in
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 2: the jury trial to the taxpayer is not on the
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 2: facts of the case. Those have been determined. It's about
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 2: how much are they going to pay Chief Washington. I'm
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 2: speculating based on the city moving nine million dollars over
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 2: for judgments, that is going to be ten million or
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 2: higher if the city is smart, If the city is
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 2: smart having been the vice mayor, and this city council,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 2: this mayor, this administration doesn't seem to be smart. They
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: don't even know when they've lost, like they've lost on
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 2: such a big way, on such a big stage. I
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: have never ever, ever seen a federal court say that
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: the city manager, in the act of her duties, has
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 2: no immunity, so when he gets done with the city,
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: he can then go work on her. And basically this
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 2: the federal court said, this is defamation, a defamation of
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 2: his character.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 5: He didn't do all those.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: Things you said he did, and if you read some
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 2: of the articles out there, those original articles, it almost
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 2: feels like sexual misconduct, which has nothing to do with
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 2: this case at all. But the problem is that Chief
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Michael Washington has been applying for jobs all over the
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 2: country and he's the finalist, but they say, we can't
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 2: offer you that job because you got this pending litigation
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 2: against you with your previous employer.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 1: He is, I guess from all accounts, he has qualified
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: and has been the leading candidate and other fire departments
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: become their chief, but for this looming termination issue hanging
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: over his head. He is eminently qualified and by all accounts.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: My understanding is he would have had a job by
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: now had it not been.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: For this hundred percent Brian Thomas and the taxpayer. I
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: know we got to go to break, but the taxpayer
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 2: guess what, they're the ones that pay the bill. It's not,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: sir Long unless he goes after her personally. Well, the
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 2: ten million is coming from the call for right, which
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 2: is what we the taxpayer in Cincinnati. At one point
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 2: eight percent, we're going to be allocating that towards Chief
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 2: Michael Washington.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: Well, and I am not up to speed with the
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: complexity in the realities of city government liability and maybe
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: the idea and here's where it's going through my mind.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: Cheryl Long now can be held personally responsible because her decision,
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: and she said it was her own, led to the
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: termination of Chief Washington. The city of Cincinnati therefore isn't
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: really liable, is it. So could not the city say, hey,
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: I am going to sue Cheryl Long for reimbursement for
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: the money we had to pay as a consequence of
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: her singular decision. If she had immunity, that would be
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: a foolish thing to make an assertion on. But since
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: they have taken away her personal immunity on that, and
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: she seems to be solely responsible for making that decision.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: One could argue that they may have that cause of action.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure as I work it through my head
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: this morning. Don't go away. We're going to find out
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 1: what Christopher's thoughts are about what's going to happen to
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: Cheryl Long. Will they get rid of her? Throw her?
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: See the talk station ker City Talk Station Brian Thomas
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: with Christopher Smith and doing this smither Man focusing on
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: former fire chief Washington determined to be terminated wrongfully by
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: city Manager Cheryl Long. And it was suggested, Christopher, just
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: kind of going back to my point at the end
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: of that segment, that Cheryl Long did this, made this
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: decision unilaterally, you suggested the document show, and the appellate
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: court said that she ignored the advice of the lawyers
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: that were surrounding her. I've always kind of thought maybe
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: this was aft have Purvoll's idea, And of course, since
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 1: city Manager Long has the hiring firing authority by herself,
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: going back to your signature campaign, that maybe she was
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: nudged along to doing it. She's never said that out loud,
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: but now that she has been deemed to be personally
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: liable and that Chief Washington could sue her individually for
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: being terminated wrongfully, do you think she might pivot and
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: bring out some more information in defense of herself, like, no,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: this wasn't my idea. I was told to by the mayor.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: Is that possible, Christopher? Is he there? Christopher? Can you
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: hear me?
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 6: Sorry?
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, I can, Sorry, I can't hear you. Yes. It
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: is speculation on my part that the mayor was involved
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 2: with this, absolutely, and I think that when if she's
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: put on the stand right and.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: That pressure is on.
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: Her, she's going to have to say, my boss, you know,
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 2: directed me to terminate the fire chief. I believe that,
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 2: and it speaks to the heart of the petition because
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: you know, he has this power over the manager, instead
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 2: of the manager saying, listen, I've got to take this
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: to the Board of Directors and have seven of the
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: nine member of council agree with this, which takes the
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: pressure off of the manager of this undue pressure that
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: I think you're asserting that the mayor currently has. And
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 2: that's why we're out collecting signatures to eighty eighty eighty five.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 2: People are out there collecting signators to place this issue
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 2: on the ballot. I also want to respond to something
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 2: you said, Brian, which I think is important is they
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 2: call her an officer right of the agency or officer
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: of the city, so they're always checks and balances, meaning
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 2: the Board of Director at any point could have said,
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: even though we don't have the power to fire you,
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 2: or we're not the mayor hasn't presented you for termination.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: The chair of Law and Public Safety right or the
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: chair of Budget and Finance could have said, city manager
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 2: would like you to come to us, and we don't
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 2: have a discussion with you about this termination. So there
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: was no effort by the board to figure it out, which,
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: by the way, puts the city right in the crosshairs,
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 2: meaning the people who are going to pay the money,
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 2: the big money, are going to be the tax fairs.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: The second person is going to be the city manager personally.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 2: And what I speculate is going to happen is the
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 2: city is going to go to the city law firm
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: and say, look, we want to get the city manager
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 2: off the hook. Yeah, how much do we have to
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 2: pay you all your client for you to drop not
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 2: only the case against the city. But the case against
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 2: the city manager, we won't actually see that hand, but
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 2: that is probably what I see is going to happen.
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 1: Well, she's going to have to get her own lawyer, though, Christopher,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: because I think I can see a potential conflict of
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: interest going back to my point that although Sarah Long
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: probably does not have sufficient financial resources to the extent
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: she could be held responsible for all of this to
• 1:20:51
  Speaker 1: cover the nut, but she finds herself in financial liability
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 1: that the city could very well turn around and stab
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: her in the back. Legal conflict of interests jumps out
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 1: at me. So the other component is Washington Chief, former
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 1: Chief Washington, who would have to decide that he doesn't
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: want to go after her personally. Maybe he wants a
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 1: pound of flesh from city manager Long because she wrongfully
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: terminated him. It's certainly possible, and the city could not,
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: you know, prevent Washington from you know, going after her personally.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 1: They might want to, well, they might want to resolve
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 1: the whole thing of one big tidy settlement package with
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 1: her separate lawyers chiming in on in participating in But
• 1:21:30
  Speaker 1: I don't know that she can rely on the city
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: lawyers at this point.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 2: Well, guess what that that that makes you the lawyer. Well,
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 2: and it makes me the financial premner. That's the true
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 2: and so and so. At the end of the day,
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 2: what this, what this decision says is it goes back
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 2: to the lower lower court and the three panel judge
• 1:21:51
  Speaker 2: judges basically affirmed. Are the two of the three affirmed
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 2: what the lower court has ruled one? And I just
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: want the public to understand that this is incompetence at
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 2: the highest level. And you have a dysfunctional council, a
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 2: dysfunctional mayor any new in any world, anybody listening to
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: us discussed this. The city manager would lose their job.
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Period.
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 2: There's no way you cost the institution ten million dollars
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: or a higher court says you didn't tell the truth
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 2: or you didn't even listen to your own legal counsel.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: And I give you a great evaluation, which happens like
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 2: four or five months ago. We gave you this stellar evaluation.
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 2: You're doing a great job. There's so many disconnects, Brian Thomas.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 2: But at the end of the day, I want the
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 2: taxpayer to understand your only pillings in a sillin is
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 2: to sign the petition to make sure that this never
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 2: happens again.
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 1: And of course petition is the one Christopher's circulating and
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: sign it yourself multiple locations Joe Strek and put the
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 1: location downe on my blog page. But it's to ensure
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: that the council members must engage in a discussion and
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: be involved with hiring and fire decisions for both the
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 1: Chief of Police and fire chief. And of course you
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 1: haven't mentioned Chiefdiji. Question Mark Smithman if if Purval had
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with this, and keeping Washington was the
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 1: right thing to do because he was competent, he did
• 1:23:17
  Speaker 1: get great performance reviews. Wouldn't you, as the mayor of
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 1: the City of Cincinnati fire her for firing Chief Washington
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 1: out of nowhere? You did? What? What are you kidding me?
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 1: You know he knew about this in advance. Don't go away.
• 1:23:29
  Speaker 1: We got more with Christopher Smithman at seven thirty seven.
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 1: Right now, I want to mention cover since and I
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 1: want to focus on my friends who are getting ready
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: to go on Medicare that date is fast approaching, or
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: folks who are already on Medicare and John Roman and
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 1: cover of the talk station fifty five care City Talk Station.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 1: Christopher's Smitheman is on the line doing Miss Smith Van Christopher,
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 1: thank you.
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 2: I just want I just want to read something from
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 2: this from this finding, if you'll allow me just to
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 2: read this last I think it's two sentences, but essentially
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 2: the court or this this panel judge says, listen to
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 2: this language on this record, A reasonable juror could infer
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: that Long acted with malice or bad faith in making
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 2: the alleged defamatory statements about Washington related to his termination,
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 2: based on the record evidence suggesting that she intentionally disregarded
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 2: his constitutional rights in the course of that termination. And
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 2: then for these reasons, we affirmed the district Court's denial
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 2: of statutory immunity for the defamation claim. So you know,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, the public everything that
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 2: you Brian Thomas, myself, Christopher Smitherman, that we've been talking
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: about on this show for the last.
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: Year has been the truth.
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: The Democrats this city have been lying to the public
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 2: right They've been acting as if this is no big deal.
• 1:25:16
  Speaker 2: They terminated him right in the right way, just like
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: they're doing right now.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 6: To the police chief who will ultimately do.
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: The administrative hearing that they did not do for the
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: fire chief, but ultimately Chief Fiji will also sue. But
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 2: at the end of the day, man, this comes down
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 2: to complete and total incompetence, And it is shocking to
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: me that the city Council will never intervene and say
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: enough is enough. Right, you've got to go. We cannot
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 2: afford ten million dollar errors for the taxpayers of Cincinnati.
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 2: We've got roads to fix, we've got bridges to fix,
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 2: we've got flooding to fix. Right, we don't have time
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 2: for you to make hr decisions where you just fire
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 2: a key executive, right, and then defame him in the news.
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 2: And by the way, all of the news outlets should
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 2: be put on warning. They keep putting out false information
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 2: about this man. Right, think about when this is over,
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: he might decide to use a part of his ten
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 2: million to come after them. Because anytime you google his name,
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 2: the craziness comes up. Because the media seems to be
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 2: in the tank with the communication director of the city.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: You keep believing what they're telling you instead of reading
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 2: what I just read, meaning the appellate court has a decision.
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 2: Why doesn't the media just say, let me attach the
• 1:26:44
  Speaker 2: decision and tell you what was said. Why do you
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 2: keep putting out these crazy headlines as if the chief
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: has done something right, the headline should have been defamation.
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 2: Care the defamation of Chief Washington has been determined or
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 2: manager did not tell the truth right, Our city manager
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: lied right, and our city manager could cost taxpayers tens
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 2: of millions of dollars. You know, they keep going after
• 1:27:11
  Speaker 2: the chief when he's the victim here. And I'm letting
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: the media I'm talking about this, mainstream local media, be careful.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 2: I'm a little birdie in your ear. You're probably next.
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 2: We're tired of your crazy articles when you don't go
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 2: out there and tell the truth. And that's why the
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 2: public right now is in the dark. If they're not
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 2: listening to this show Brian Thomas, they're just in the dark.
• 1:27:34
  Speaker 2: They don't really know what's going on. But Brian Thomas
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: has been saying.
• 1:27:38
  Speaker 6: Right, alert, read alert, read alert, there's.
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 2: A problem here. Right, legally, the city has a problem.
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: Now we read from and a three panel federal court that,
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 2: by the way, I think the next step is the
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: Supreme Court. By the way, the city is not going
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 2: to take this to the Supreme Court. And the Supreme
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 2: Court wouldn't hear this case. It's been determined that they
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 2: wrongfully terminated Chief Washington. This is defamation of character for him,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 2: and this is why this man cannot find a job
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: in three years. He's driving around in his truck trying
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 2: to trying to fill his time up because he keeps
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: being destroyed by this city manager. And we have an
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: in f and an inpt nine members of council that
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 2: seem to not want to reel her in. And that
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: is where if I were a jury, I would say
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: City Council, Board of Directors, why didn't you wheel her in?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 2: Why didn't you say anything publicly?
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 5: Hey, mayor why do you do it?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 6: You know why?
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 2: Because you're all in it. You're all in the can here,
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 2: and you all were working to destroy this man's reputation.
• 1:28:41
  Speaker 2: If Chief Washington is listening today, I want him to
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: know we've always believed you. You are a great fire
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 2: chief for the city of Cincinnati, and any department in
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 2: the country who's listening to this interview, you should hire
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 2: this man. He was a great fire chief and he
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 2: deserves a second chance. This manager has engaged in defamation,
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 2: and she herself has has no immunity, and nor does
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 2: the city. All this really has my crawl because of
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 2: what they've done to this man. And by the way,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 2: where's the Cincinnati in double ACP.
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 5: Huh, you've got.
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: A black man who's been terminated by a black woman.
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 2: If this was a white woman or a white man
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 2: who had fired this black man, I guarantee you we've
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 2: heard from the Cincinnati in double ACP. But because it's
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 2: a black woman firing a black man and clearly this
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 2: court is saying his constitutional rights have been violated, the
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 2: Cincinnati in Double ACP has been silent.
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 1: And Christopher smithan once president of NAACP, in your capacity
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 1: as president of NAACP, would you have said something along regardless.
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 2: Percent one hundred percent, I would have said, listen, we
• 1:29:54
  Speaker 2: have a problem here where we have a person who
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: is a member of the Cincinnati in double act who
• 1:30:02
  Speaker 2: has been wrongfully terminated. I'm sharing with you the politics are.
• 1:30:06
  Speaker 2: You've got a black woman, a black American who's fired
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 2: a black man. So they don't see the racial component
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 2: of it because that is not how they view identity politics.
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 2: I'm letting you know, Brian Thomas, if it were a
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 2: white male city manager or white female who had fired
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 2: Chief Washington, and most people don't even know he's a
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: black American. The Cincinnati in DOUBLEACP would have been saying
• 1:30:31
  Speaker 2: something about it, no question about it.
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: All right, Well, and you know this whole conversation, I
• 1:30:37
  Speaker 1: know you pivoted over into a race component of the
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 1: firing of Chief Washington, But the firing of Chief Thiji
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: just has so many parallels to the firing of Chief Washington.
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: They had to hire a law firm to go back
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: and look at her entire record after she was terminated
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 1: to figure out if there was something that they could
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: hang their hat on in order to justify the termination
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 1: which had already happened.
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: Red I'm shaking my head because Brian, here's the real reason.
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 2: Having been the vice mayor, they're really retaining this law
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: firm to fight the case because the legal team in
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: the city can't handle it. They can't handle the warriors
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 2: that are coming. So they've hired this outside council and
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: they're probably stalling. They're probably putting up walls and like
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: they've done Chief Washington, to drag Chief Fiji for years
• 1:31:29
  Speaker 2: and years because ultimately the city manager most likely right now,
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 2: is looking for another job. Right so you know, typically
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 2: as the mayor finishes their term. She's not going to
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 2: finish out the next two years. Look for her to
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: try to get another job somewhere, and she wants to
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 2: get that job before these hammers drop. So she's on
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 2: her way out of here, dude, she's on her way.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 2: She is on her way looking for another job, with
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: a great evaluation that this city council gave her, knowing
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: knowing the defamation, knowing the lack of immunity that she had,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 2: knowing the bad decisions, they gave her a great evaluation
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 2: because they really don't care about as taxpayers. They just
• 1:32:09
  Speaker 2: don't do This is about protection democrats, you know, circling
• 1:32:15
  Speaker 2: the wagon, and so you know again this is incompetence
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  Speaker 2: of an executive. It's clearly written here. And now that's Joe,
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: if it's okay with you or okay with the station
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  Speaker 2: to literally post the finding so that people can.
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  Speaker 1: Read the opinion. It's a legal opinion. Of course you
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: can post it. Can you have this citation for it?
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 1: You can find it on your own. But now joking
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: link the opinion, that's no problem. It's what the three
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 1: zero opinion reads his opinion of record. And I would
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: argue in contrast to your comment about Cheryl Long going
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: out and getting a job before it all hits the fan, Dude,
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 1: the horses left the bar and the opinions out there,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: it's already I mean, her, her reputation is already solidified
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 1: based upon what the Court of Appeals has determined. So
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: you know, good luck. It's her career and her her
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 1: future that's at stake here. But I think that ship
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: has sailed for Cheryl Long. We'll see Christopher Smith all see.
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  Speaker 2: And I know we got to go. But look, my
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: heart goes out to all the victims that were shot
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: over the weekend. I don't want to know. I usually
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: make a comment about it, but you know, I believe
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: there were six people shot over this weekend. By no
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: answer or the council, no answer by the mayor, no
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 2: answer by the city manager. They really have not had
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 2: a clear plan. They have a plan to protect maybe downtown,
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 2: the core, but the other fifty one neighborhoods, in my opinion,
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 2: are out there on their own. It's like the wild
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 2: wild West out there. So I am very very My
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 2: heart goes out and I'm just tired of all the
• 1:33:39
  Speaker 2: victims every single weekend. Brian and again I conclude, thank
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 2: you for letting me have a voice. I appreciate that,
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 2: Brian Thomas. I hope that your listeners get something from
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: these exchanges that you and I have. And to Chief
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: Washington and to Chiefdigi, who were both great professionals for
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: the city, we wish both of you will and we
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 2: wish you the best. Even though this is going to
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 2: cost me partly as a taxpayer money, Chief Washington deserves
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 2: every bit of a ten million that he's going to get.
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  Speaker 1: Christ Well, we'll do this again next Monday. As always,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate you being on the program, my friend, stay well.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, sir.
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  Speaker 1: Seven fifty fifty five KRC the Talk station. Get in
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  Speaker 1: touch with the USA installation of one up on eight
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  Speaker 1: oh six Here fifty five kr cety Talk station. It's Monday.
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  Speaker 1: It's time for money Monday, all or financials. Brian James
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 1: kind enough to join the program every Monday to talk
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 1: about money issues and of course thinking about retirement. Give
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 1: yourself a financial planner so you got your situation. At
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: least someone beyond you is looking out for your future
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: and providing some thoughtful insight into retirement. Right Brian James, Welcome,
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 1: back my friend, Happy Monday.
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  Speaker 4: Thank you, Brian. Somebody on arms length away who maybe
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 4: has seen it once.
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 7: Or twice before as people try to navigate that, I
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 7: would agree it's.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 4: Probably a good idea to have in your corner.
• 1:34:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm so thankful for having had one for so
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: many years. Again, it's it's something that I don't really
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 1: have to think about. I don't want to have to
• 1:34:59
  Speaker 1: focus on my reading retirement. I want my investments in
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: good hands and I want somebody's going to go over
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: with them regularly. And then there's also that whole idea
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: of someone doing that having a fiduciary obligation to me
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: to maximize my return on investment. So that's the key
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: right there.
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  Speaker 4: That's an important factor too, I would agree.
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  Speaker 1: No doubt. That's why you've been a fee based financial planner.
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 1: They owe you a duty. Now do I read this
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  Speaker 1: is inflation dropping? Brian James, As I paid four dollars
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 1: and twenty five cents for regular gasoline yesterday, Well.
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  Speaker 4: When you look at the algorithm and the calculation that.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 7: They that they look at for for to calculate all
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  Speaker 7: of the CPI, yes, indeed we've had a slight step
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  Speaker 7: back so July's CPI rose about three point four percent
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  Speaker 7: from a year earlier. That's down three point from three
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  Speaker 7: point five percent in June. So, in other words, June
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  Speaker 7: twenty five to June twenty six was up three point
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  Speaker 7: five percent. July twenty five to July twenty six was
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 7: only up three point four percent. So, yes, inflation still exists,
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  Speaker 7: it's just not moving at the same upward trajectory that
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  Speaker 7: it that it has been. We've taken a slight step back.
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  Speaker 7: Is this cause for celebration? I don't think so. Not
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  Speaker 7: quite enough to say that we're where we want to be.
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  Speaker 7: We'd prefer to be somewhere in the two to three
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  Speaker 7: percent range, but that's not where we are now.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, a little more.
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  Speaker 1: Does the slight downward tick those suggest we may be
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  Speaker 1: on a trend going? I know it's a big it's
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  Speaker 1: a one, Brian, and I know this requires speculating on
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: so many factors that impact inflation. But does this suggest
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  Speaker 1: we're on a downward trek trajectory? Perhaps?
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  Speaker 7: Well, that's why we're talking about it, I guess, because
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  Speaker 7: it's what we're all looking for and it's definitely not.
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  Speaker 4: Well.
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  Speaker 7: The argument we make is things definitely didn't get more
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 7: expensive than they have you know lately. That's really all
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  Speaker 7: it is. It's a step in the right direction, so
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  Speaker 7: a little more encouraging inside this, Remember we also have
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  Speaker 7: that thing called core inflation that strips out food and energy.
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  Speaker 4: Some people love it, some people hate it.
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  Speaker 7: But those are the most volatile things because those are
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  Speaker 7: those two items are struck by wars and climate issues,
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  Speaker 7: weather problems and all that that aren't controlled by human beings.
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  Speaker 7: So therefore, if we pull those out, the stuff that
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 7: is controlled by human decisions, human activity, core inflation is
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  Speaker 7: down to about two and a half percent. That's the
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  Speaker 7: lowest we've seen since February, So that might be the
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  Speaker 7: bigger headline inside the headline. So we're still not where
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  Speaker 7: we want to be, but we've at least taken a
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  Speaker 7: baby step for it at the both the CPI level
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  Speaker 7: and the core inflation level.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, I it seems to me that you know,
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  Speaker 1: if you want to blame a political party or a
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: singular person like Donald Trump for inflation, you could probably say, okay,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: war with Iran. Straight to hor Move's closure, price of
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  Speaker 1: gas goes up, right because supply has been impacted, not
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  Speaker 1: the quantity of available oil or even refined gasoline. But
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 1: it's just that war interrupted the flow of that. So
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: I get that there's going to be inflationary reality that
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: because of supply and demand. Supply has been interrupted by
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: war as opposed to we ran out of stuff to
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 1: drill out of the ground, which would be out of
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: someone's hands politically. Now, the other component of this is
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: we're all reeling with inflation. But I have read several
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  Speaker 1: times in Brian. See if you've got better information than me,
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  Speaker 1: I'd love to hear it. But the value of the
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  Speaker 1: dollar has dropped by about a third since what twenty
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  Speaker 1: or twenty nineteen or something like that, because of I
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 1: guess the printing press. Now, I don't think most voters
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  Speaker 1: can appreciate the watering down of the value of the
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 1: daughter alone. Dollar alone creates this inflationary because your dollar
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't buy as much as it used to, and that's
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: that transcends the current moment in time. I mean, you
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 1: can't say inflation is the fault of anybody, because this
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  Speaker 1: is problem with the printing press has been going on
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  Speaker 1: nder multiple administrations, both Republican and Democrat.
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  Speaker 7: That's absolutely true, and we have not had the will
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 7: to vote for anyone who truly will take the steps.
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  Speaker 7: And I'm not taking sides on a party here. Nobody's
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  Speaker 7: done it.
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  Speaker 6: You know.
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  Speaker 7: Everybody campaigns on the on deficit reduction and we're spending
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 7: too much and all this stuff, and then the minute
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  Speaker 7: they get elected, we don't do it. And the reason
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 7: for that is because I think those politicians don't believe
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  Speaker 7: that Americans are willing to make the sacrifices that it
• 1:38:58
  Speaker 7: would require to.
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  Speaker 4: Spend less on certain things.
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  Speaker 7: That's the big I just feel like as soon as
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  Speaker 7: they get into the position where they could pull the levers,
• 1:39:07
  Speaker 7: they instantly shy away from it because people aren't ready
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 7: for the bad news that we're required.
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  Speaker 4: Therefore, it makes a.
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  Speaker 7: Great headline during the campaign, but we can shove it
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  Speaker 7: into the corner after we're actually in charge. And again,
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 7: this has happened for the last fifty sixty years on
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  Speaker 7: both sides.
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  Speaker 1: Yes it has. And that's why I bring it up,
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 1: because this is a failure of our elected leadership. I mean,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: we live in a representative country here. They're supposed to
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 1: be watching out for the good of the order and
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 1: not getting us into a situation where, oh, look on
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 1: your list of things to talk about. We racked our
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 1: national debt up forty trillion dollars, because that's forty trillion
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 1: dollars to spend more than we actually took in. But
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 1: we got to have our stuff in things from federal government.
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 1: So let's keep feeding the kitty and keep churning money
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  Speaker 1: out and running the printing press, ignoring the fact that
• 1:39:48
  Speaker 1: our we've got now an interest to pay on that
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: couple with the fact that the dollar's not worth as
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 1: much as it used to be. I mean, I regularly
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 1: refer to the national debt, Brian James, is probably the
• 1:39:58
  Speaker 1: biggest existential threat we face. I don't think it's the
• 1:40:00
  Speaker 1: Iranians with nukes. I think it's us just perpetually running
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  Speaker 1: the printing press and well, running our currency in the ground,
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  Speaker 1: and of course leading us down a path where it
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  Speaker 1: may no longer be the default currency for the world.
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  Speaker 1: There are other currencies out there in the world that
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 1: compete with the dollar. The more and more we rack
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: up the debt here and have to pay on that.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, there are, But I just don't see the world
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  Speaker 7: ready to line up behind any of those other countries.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, the next obvious one is China just on
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 7: the size of the economy alone, but really nobody trusts them.
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 7: And beyond that, you've got Japan and Germany and those
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 7: of the just this is just based off of size
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  Speaker 7: of economy. Anybody else who is healthier is just way
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  Speaker 7: too small to handle the burden of being the world's
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  Speaker 7: reserve currency. So I don't that one. I don't see
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  Speaker 7: changing anytime soon. I just don't see any other country
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  Speaker 7: having the It's because it goes more to the more
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  Speaker 7: than just the strength of the currency. It's what is
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 7: the economy capable producing? How can it handle shocks and
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 7: those kinds of things. The United States is still by
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  Speaker 7: far the strongest country in the world in terms of
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 7: being able to handle that kind of those kind of
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  Speaker 7: ups and downs, and that a lot of that changed
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 7: in the last twenty years as we frankly, as we
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 7: discovered fracking, when we found enough oil under our own soil,
• 1:41:13
  Speaker 7: that made us able to be a lot more independent. Now,
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 7: so that almost brings into the fact, then why are
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  Speaker 7: we sticking our nose in some of these other places
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 7: because we don't need the oil. That's not why we're
• 1:41:22
  Speaker 7: fighting in Iran. That is not the point that used
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 7: to be thirty forty years ago. Yes, we used to
• 1:41:27
  Speaker 7: want to have better access to the oil in the
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 7: Middle East.
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  Speaker 4: Now we don't need.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 7: It so much because we figured out ways to get
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 7: out of our own ground. So you know why are
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 7: we there. Well, that's a lot more political than it
• 1:41:36
  Speaker 7: is economic.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that involves, you know, trying to create better
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 1: ties with our Arab friends, but also protecting Israel from
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: the threats. And you know, then that takes us down
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: the road whether we achieve me doing that, and it's
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 1: the most complicated thing ever probably politically in my lifetime,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: Brian James. But we are I guess I appreciate where
• 1:41:54
  Speaker 1: what you said. Nobody's ready to jump or throw the
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: US dollar under the bus, because we are as bad
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 1: as we might be wards and all the best out
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 1: there in terms of currency and our productivity and the
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 1: money that we rate from this economy, but we're moving
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 1: in the wrong direction. And the more we dig ourselves
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 1: into this national debt whole, and the more the interest
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 1: paid on that, and I guess maybe even the less
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 1: functional or economy is because they're going to have to
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: start charging as more income taxes to try to stave
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 1: off this. At least that's the Democrats solution to the
• 1:42:24
  Speaker 1: problem is charge more for income tax to cover the debt,
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 1: but they don't have a curb spending. So every day
• 1:42:31
  Speaker 1: both parties, including move further and further toward a less
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 1: certain dollar, our FIA currency, and a step further in
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 1: the direction where the globe might turn its back. I mean,
• 1:42:41
  Speaker 1: we may be decade down the road, but we're not
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 1: doing anything to shore it up and make it well
• 1:42:46
  Speaker 1: more reliable as the default currency. That's my concern, and we.
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  Speaker 4: Are not saying that at the ballot box, despite the
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 4: who really will do these things?
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  Speaker 7: We tend to believe what we're told and we don't
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 7: hold anybody to account.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, rate height in September, we'll ask Brian
• 1:43:02
  Speaker 1: James about that and more second quarter earnings reports out.
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 1: Hopefully there's solid. We need some good information from Brian
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 1: James this morning. Don't go away, We got more to
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  Speaker 1: talk about after these brief words. Fifty five KRC all
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  Speaker 1: right station eight seventeen Ife. Do you have KRC detalk
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  Speaker 1: station Brian Thomas with Brian James from all with Financia
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  Speaker 1: doing the money Monday thing. We do every Monday for
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  Speaker 1: a few segments. Brian James pivoting over maybe a September
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 1: rake Kite. I guess during the last meeting of the Fed,
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: they kept right steady and some one of them up,
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 1: some one of them down, and inflation obviously a concern
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 1: with the Fed giving your inflation Reality report just a
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 1: moment ago, slightly down but still north to three percent.
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  Speaker 1: Are we expecting a rate height in September from the Fed?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's interesting.
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 7: So not that long ago you and I were talking
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 7: about when might the federal reserve cutbreak? Exactly as you
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 7: were hinting at the conversation, shifting to maybe something borrowers
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 7: don't want to hear, or if you're about to buy
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 7: a house or something like that, could the Fed actually
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 7: raise rates in September?
• 1:44:02
  Speaker 4: Markets seem to think there's a chance.
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 7: So the odds of a quarter point increase are about
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 7: thirty percent according to bond market activity, So that's still low, right,
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 7: that's at of three chance. But on the other hand,
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 7: it's not you know, a one out of one hundred
• 1:44:16
  Speaker 7: chance either, So not a forecast. Of course, we don't
• 1:44:19
  Speaker 7: know what the outcome is, but the markets are at
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 7: least somewhat bracing themselves for a potential rate hike.
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 4: And we're going to find out.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 7: The next scheduled meeting is September fifteen, sixteenth, and so
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 7: we're going to have more data coming out of the
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 7: policymakers will have little more information at their hands before
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 7: they make that decision. But you know, there is a
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 7: decent chance of an actual rate hike if we can't
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 7: get inflation to come down at all.
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I may have read this wrong, but
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: I thought I read just that yesterday, the day before
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 1: that mortgage rates had ticked down a little bit. I
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 1: wouldn't expect that to happen if we're anticipating an increase
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: in the rate.
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  Speaker 7: I think I think that speaks more to the you know,
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 7: the anticipation. Remember it's only thirty percent chance. So there
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 7: is wonder in the market. Right, some things are going nor,
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 7: some things are going south. The you know, the mortgages
• 1:45:03
  Speaker 7: are generally based off of the ten year treasure, right,
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 7: nothing is that mechanical, but you can watch that and
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 7: see what you can expect out of mortgage rate. So
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 7: it's not to me that makes perfect sense that some
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 7: things are going one way, some things are going the
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 7: other because the market simply doesn't know. And that's why
• 1:45:19
  Speaker 7: we've had kind of a bumpy stock market as well,
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 7: because the market truly hates not knowing. If we can't
• 1:45:24
  Speaker 7: see through the fog, then we can't predict what earnings
• 1:45:27
  Speaker 7: might look like.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 4: Therefore the market's going to wander a bit.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 1: I say this only half joking with Brian James. What
• 1:45:34
  Speaker 1: does polymarket have to say about interest rates one way
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 1: or another?
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 7: Well, that's a great question, and from what I haven't
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 7: done in depth research with polymarket calls he or anything
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 7: like that, but I do know that there are depending
• 1:45:46
  Speaker 7: on how you ask the question, there's a difference between
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 7: what those responses are. So yeah, that is an interesting
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 7: measure that we can all pay attention to. Now, what
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 7: does the general public think? It's almost like, you know
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 7: what Google used to be, where you could watch the
• 1:46:00
  Speaker 7: watch what people are searching and get an idea for
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 7: what people are thinking. That is a polymarket calls you
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 7: all those things. While I'm not a fan of them
• 1:46:06
  Speaker 7: on the investment side, I think it's just another form
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 7: of gambling. However, it is fascinating to watch what people
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 7: are actually willing to put their money on. It's one
• 1:46:14
  Speaker 7: thing to punch a question into Google. It's another thing
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 7: to open your wallet in favor of one answer or
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 7: the other. That tells us what people are really thinking.
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  Speaker 1: It does well, and you just walked yourself into a
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  Speaker 1: different conversation that I really wasn't planned on happening with you.
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: But since you mentioned the gambling, there was an article
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  Speaker 1: I read yesterday in preparation for the show that young people,
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 1: and a pretty decent chunk of them, are now turning
• 1:46:38
  Speaker 1: to online gambling as an investment strategy for their future,
• 1:46:43
  Speaker 1: which just even saying it out loud makes me kind
• 1:46:45
  Speaker 1: of laugh at the notion. It's like betting the lottery
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  Speaker 1: and hope that that's going to help your retirement savings out.
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  Speaker 1: But this is actually really a concept taking money that
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  Speaker 1: the otherwise might have invested in four to one k's
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  Speaker 1: or you know, Wrath four o one k's or whatever,
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  Speaker 1: and going over to one of the betting apps and
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  Speaker 1: betting it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I really.
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  Speaker 7: Think that's part of a generational This is just me talking,
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  Speaker 7: but I got the microphone, so my opinion, and I've
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  Speaker 7: talked about this before, but we've made a generational shift
• 1:47:15
  Speaker 7: in the seventies away from retiring off of streams of
• 1:47:18
  Speaker 7: income and instead converting to piles of money. What I
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 7: mean by that is pensions started to go away. Congress
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  Speaker 7: and the irs said, the companies have said, pensions are
• 1:47:27
  Speaker 7: too expensive. So therefore here's the four oh one K
• 1:47:29
  Speaker 7: you get to invest your own dollars. And people started
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 7: to have started to slowly shift to building a giant
• 1:47:34
  Speaker 7: pile of money rather than putting their time in and
• 1:47:37
  Speaker 7: working toward a stream of income because the government and
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 7: companies pretty much took that option away with the reduction
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  Speaker 7: and pensions and social security pretty much being under endless attack.
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  Speaker 7: So we have changed the mindset toward you need a
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  Speaker 7: big pile of money in order to retire successfully. And
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 7: I think this the idea of gambling is for some
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  Speaker 7: who perceive that I need a big pile of money,
• 1:47:58
  Speaker 7: here's the quickest way to get there. If I simply
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 7: take chances gambling on these various sites. It's no longer
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 7: about putting your time in, putting your years in. It's
• 1:48:06
  Speaker 7: now about just get at the biggest pile of money
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 7: you possibly can't as soon as possible, and retire early. Obviously,
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 7: this doesn't work for many people. But there are a
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 7: lot of people out there willing to try it, especially
• 1:48:16
  Speaker 7: those on the younger end of the spectrum, because they
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 7: simply seen have not seen bad stuff happen to bad
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 7: people as those of us with a few battle scars,
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 7: you know, a few decades of experience with life have
• 1:48:27
  Speaker 7: the benefit of Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I've I know, personally, quite a few stories of
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  Speaker 1: how gambling has ruined people's lives. I mean, the cautionary
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  Speaker 1: tales that I paid attention to throughout my life, and
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 1: some people just don't learn their lesson. It just is
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: a sad thing. And I know how easy it is
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 1: to gamble these days, and I just think that, well,
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 1: there is enough information out there how bad it is
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  Speaker 1: for you, and so don't do it. Outlawing it. I
• 1:48:49
  Speaker 1: don't know this is the answer, but that young people
• 1:48:52
  Speaker 1: think that's inappropriate. Like mechanism toward retirement comfort, analogy can
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  Speaker 1: be drawn about that. Like you talk about trying to
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  Speaker 1: individually choose a stock or stocks and buying and selling
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: individual stocks. That literally is gambling too, isn't Isn't it
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  Speaker 1: pretty much?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah?
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  Speaker 4: I mean, and that's why I don't believe in that either.
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  Speaker 4: I said when I was younger. That was my form
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 4: of gambling. You know, I threw I.
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  Speaker 7: Think I probably told you this story before too, But
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 7: I threw a thousand dollars into some internet company whose
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 7: name I've forgotten, sold it six months later for two
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 7: thousand dollars, and thought I was a genius.
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Had I held that another couple of years, it would
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 7: have been worth a quarter million dollars. And I had
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 7: I held it a couple of years beyond that, it
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 7: would have gone through two thousand and two when it
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 7: went bankrupt. So yes, that was gambling when I was
• 1:49:35
  Speaker 7: coming through the system in the in the late nineties.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 7: Now it's literally pull out your phone and bet on
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 7: a politician saying this or that, or you know, a
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 7: player getting a certain type of foul or something like that.
• 1:49:46
  Speaker 7: It's basically, you know where we used to say, let's
• 1:49:48
  Speaker 7: put a price or let's slap advertising on everything out there,
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 7: including the backs of bathroom stall doors. Now it's let's
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 7: put a bet on every possible binary income, binary outcome
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 7: that can possibly happen. This happen or did it not happen.
• 1:50:01
  Speaker 7: Let's bet twenty bucks and find out. That's where we
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 7: are now. Because it's so easy.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I understand it's an appealing That's why I
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 1: asked you about poly market where they were on whether
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: or not that the FED was going to jump rates
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 1: or not. It's a poll. People are always asking the
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 1: general public. Two thousand people surveyed their opinion on you know,
• 1:50:15
  Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. This is it. It's a
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 1: huge quantity of people that will bet or guess.
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  Speaker 4: So you do.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 1: You have, you know, an immediate testing of the water.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 1: What the vests are just just infinitely larger than polling
• 1:50:29
  Speaker 1: sample numbers of people believe one way or another. So
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  Speaker 1: I think there is some value in getting that public perception.
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  Speaker 4: There absolutely is.
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  Speaker 7: And actually I'm realizing that you did ask me that
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  Speaker 7: and I kind of dodged it and went off on
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 7: a rant. So where polymarketing calls you both are right now,
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 7: they're about fifty to fifty on hike versus no change.
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  Speaker 4: Oh so, so, but that what that tells me.
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  Speaker 7: I think with polymarket, with those types of things you have,
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  Speaker 7: I think you still have an undercurrent of people who
• 1:50:53
  Speaker 7: have a gut feel that they know something unexpected is
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 7: going to happen and they want to bet on it,
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 7: so it doesn't surprise me that there's a little more likely.
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  Speaker 7: The bond market says there's about a thirty percent chance.
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 7: Pollymarket says there's about a fifty percent chance. But remember
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 7: polymarket is simply taking the poll of if they got
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 7: one hundred people betting on stuff, half of them are
• 1:51:10
  Speaker 7: betting for a rate hike. The bond market says thirty
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 7: percent of them are betting.
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  Speaker 6: On a rate hike.
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  Speaker 1: All right, that's just one more little at a point
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 1: data point you need to factor in your polymarket wager
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  Speaker 1: as well. Brian James. Don't go away because I understand
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  Speaker 1: you got some second quarter earnings reports which are coming out.
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 1: I guess trickling out perhaps a better word. We're going
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 1: to go over some of those when we come back
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 1: with all Worth Financials. Brian James, be right back after
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 1: these brief words. Fifty five the talk station Talk station, Hey,
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 1: twenty eight to fifty five KCV Talks Station. Brian James
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 1: from all We're financial on the phone doing our money
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 1: Monday segment. We talked about inflation, we talked about rate
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 1: hike potentials, we talked about the forty trillion dollars national
• 1:51:49
  Speaker 1: debt earlier in the segment. Now, let's talk about second
• 1:51:51
  Speaker 1: quarter earnings reports. How are the businesses out there doing,
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  Speaker 1: Brian James.
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  Speaker 4: Frankly, pretty good.
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  Speaker 7: So we're getting more and more second quarter earnings reports
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  Speaker 7: and exceptionally strong headlines coming out. So most S and
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 7: P five hundred companies have reported corporate profits run track
• 1:52:06
  Speaker 7: for about thirty one percent.
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  Speaker 1: Growth year over years.
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  Speaker 7: WHOA, I know, right, and that that's pretty strong. So
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  Speaker 7: you know, the other tallenties that show a really high
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  Speaker 7: share of companies that are beating earnings expectations. A lot
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 7: of this of course, go figure it's coming out of
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 7: technology and AI and so forth.
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  Speaker 4: You know, that's a big part of the story.
• 1:52:25
  Speaker 7: But it has expanded beyond just a handful of these
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 7: megacap names, and that's good news because at the end
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  Speaker 7: of the day, we need it not to be a
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  Speaker 7: bubble in one area. We need other companies to other
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 7: industries to be benefiting as well so that we can
• 1:52:38
  Speaker 7: have a more stable market. So, so far, so good
• 1:52:41
  Speaker 7: on the earnings front, and we know we'll see we'll
• 1:52:43
  Speaker 7: have to see what the remainder shows us here over
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  Speaker 7: the next few a few weeks.
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  Speaker 1: I think history is demonstrated, and I'm a firm believer
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  Speaker 1: like so many other people, economists, least some of the
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 1: economists that you know, if you lower taxes, you end
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  Speaker 1: up with more tax revenue flowing into the government. And
• 1:52:57
  Speaker 1: could we argue that these successful earnings reports significant increases
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 1: if you talk about year over as you just mentioned,
• 1:53:03
  Speaker 1: that means more tax revenue going into the federal government.
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 1: So the maybe one big beautiful bills paying off in
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 1: terms of boosting business productivity and resulting in more tax revenue,
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 1: Well it can be.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well we'll have to have to wait to see,
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  Speaker 7: you know, we'll get through the full tax here to
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  Speaker 7: see you know, what has actually occurred there. Remember, a
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  Speaker 7: lot of these companies have the best tax attorneys on
• 1:53:22
  Speaker 7: the face of the earth. There's a lot of the
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 7: vatements in freedom to do this out there, so they
• 1:53:26
  Speaker 7: will get super creative, sometimes a lot more innovative on
• 1:53:29
  Speaker 7: the tax side than they are with product research and development.
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  Speaker 7: So yeah, I mean, I'm sure there will be an impact,
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  Speaker 7: but they're not going to simply allow allow their income
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  Speaker 7: to hit the margins. Remember, businesses have a lot, a lot,
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 7: a lot more flexibility as to how they label their
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 7: income than your average W two employee who gets a
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  Speaker 7: W who gets a ten ninety nine and a W
• 1:53:49
  Speaker 7: two handed to them with everything already pre categorized to
• 1:53:52
  Speaker 7: make any decisions anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Well, and I go back to the days of Nathan
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 1: Backrack and Ed Fink and the Greased Palm Index that
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 1: they put together, and they tracked the amount of money
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 1: and lobbying dollars that businesses funneled into Washington, DC as
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 1: that translated into their businesses doing better financially in one
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 1: area where lobbyists pump a lot of money and is
• 1:54:11
  Speaker 1: trying to convince politicians to change the tax code to
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 1: benefit their particular business. And lord knows, that's one of
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 1: the reasons why we have such a complex tax code.
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  Speaker 1: As I've pointed out multiple times, Brian, those aren't loopholes.
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  Speaker 1: Those are intentional provisions in the tax code. You know.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't an accident that that is written in such
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 1: a way some entity might take advantage of it. I'm
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  Speaker 1: thoroughly convinced it's in there to do exactly that. Brian.
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  Speaker 7: Oh, absolutely, as a lobbyist get loopholes put into the code.
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  Speaker 7: You know, and you were speaking of you know the
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 7: tax industry there. Into It the creator of turbo tax
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 7: that's one of the biggest lobbies that there is. Yeah,
• 1:54:46
  Speaker 7: the worst thing that can possibly happen to that company
• 1:54:49
  Speaker 7: and its ability to exist is for taxes to get easier.
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  Speaker 7: They can't afford that. That's why we don't have some
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 7: of the direct file options anymore. And remember taxes on
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 7: a postcard from the first Trump camp PA. Yeah, that
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 7: went away as soon as as soon as the election happened.
• 1:55:02
  Speaker 7: That's all because into It has one product, one major product,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 7: that is and it relies on people being scared to
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 7: death of their taxes. So as long as we let
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 7: lobbying run rampant and you're not going to get any benefits,
• 1:55:13
  Speaker 7: the benefits all flow upward to the corporations.
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  Speaker 4: That's who gets the tax cuts.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just also all the independent accountants out there
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 1: that do taxes. I guess I'm kind of curious to
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 1: know if that standard minimum deduction that went up so
• 1:55:26
  Speaker 1: high and just sort of defeated the whole point of
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 1: itemizing for individual taxpayers, if that resulted in a lot
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 1: fewer jobs out there in the accounting world.
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  Speaker 7: Well, well, I'll say here's my experience with that. I
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 7: don't do taxes myself. We refer to clients. We refer
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 7: clients to folks who do, and those businesses have gotten really,
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 7: really expensive because people don't want to do it anymore.
• 1:55:48
  Speaker 7: It's now there's just not a whole lot of creativity
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 7: to it's boring job.
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  Speaker 4: Frankly.
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  Speaker 7: People come in where there's stacks of W twos and
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 7: there's stacks of ten ninety nine, so there's no decision making.
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  Speaker 7: They're simply spending all day taking this I'm out of
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 7: this box and typing it into that box on the
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 7: form taxes, frankly, should be done by the federal government.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 7: They already know what it is anyway, rest assured if
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 7: you mess it up, they're going to they're gonna come
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 7: back to you. So I think it ought to be
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 7: prepared and presented to us as here's what we the
• 1:56:13
  Speaker 7: irs think.
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  Speaker 4: You O argue with it or pay it and then
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 4: be done with it.
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  Speaker 7: But rather than putting the burden on somebody to pay
• 1:56:20
  Speaker 7: a couple hundred bucks for a piece of software, or
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 7: several hundred dollars sneaking toward a thousand for those accountants
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 7: who really don't particularly ensort their jobs anymore because it
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 7: has just gotten so repetitive and they just can't have
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 7: much of an impact.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I will address the listeners who are screaming at
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: the radio about the trust factor we have with the
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: federal government doing it. I know, we're dealing with dollars
• 1:56:37
  Speaker 1: in cents reality here, so there's less ability, less ability
• 1:56:40
  Speaker 1: to fudge the numbers. But you know, it seems to me,
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 1: Brian James, that you know, we do have a world
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 1: with into it and the ease with which we can
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 1: do our taxes by throwing numbers into that thing. But
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 1: we have artificial intelligence. Now, don't you perceive a moment
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: in time like tomorrow, even in terms of how quick
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: technology moves, that you could put your taxes into a
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 1: chat ept and would automatically do them for you at
• 1:57:01
  Speaker 1: no cost.
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  Speaker 4: Brian, you can pretty much already do.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:57:04
  Speaker 4: If you try it, all right, you're still gonna have
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 4: to have another eyeball on it.
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  Speaker 7: So that's why when I don't want the government to
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 7: file my taxes for me, I want it to do
• 1:57:12
  Speaker 7: my taxes so that I can argue with the outcome
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 7: rather than me spending the time doing it and have
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 7: them argue with it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, at what cost you'd shoulder the American taxpayers with
• 1:57:20
  Speaker 1: the team of IRS agents that be charged with well
• 1:57:23
  Speaker 1: crunching the numbers on our individual taxes, thus growing the
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 1: size of government, perhaps our national debt. Same time, Brian,
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 1: maybe we already do it.
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  Speaker 7: Remember, if you mess up your taxes, they know what
• 1:57:32
  Speaker 7: they're expecting you to say, because everything is already programmed in.
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 7: So if you mess it up within about three years,
• 1:57:37
  Speaker 7: you're going to hear back from them. There's already computers
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 7: and robots.
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  Speaker 1: Working on it. There you go, the elimination to reverse
• 1:57:41
  Speaker 1: the order, the elimination of IRS jobs thanks to artificial intelligence.
• 1:57:45
  Speaker 1: There's something you can ponder as you criticize artificial intelligence
• 1:57:48
  Speaker 1: generally speaking, Brian James, all over the board today, but
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 1: I thoroughly enjoyed it as I always do talking with you.
• 1:57:54
  Speaker 1: Thanks for stopping by as always on a month from
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  Speaker 1: fifty the talk station A thirty nine here fifty five
• 1:58:01
  Speaker 1: KRCIT Talks Station. Brian Thomas wishing everybody a very happy Monday.
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  Speaker 1: Invitation to tune in tomorrow for the Inside Scoopy Bright
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 1: Bart News and a Daniel Davis Deep Dive and I'm
• 1:58:10
  Speaker 1: so pleased to see on the rundown and welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the fifty five CARC Morning Show from Ohio District ninety eight,
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 1: just south of Cleveland. State Representative Mark Heiner, Mark, thank
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  Speaker 1: you for coming on the program this morning, and so
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 1: it's a real treasure to have you on here.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, good morning, Thanks for having me on, Brian.
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  Speaker 1: And let us dive into did Mark, I know you
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 1: got the memo. We have some problems with property tax
• 1:58:29
  Speaker 1: here in the state of Ohio that post COVID property
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: tax increase. Some bills went up a third, some went
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 1: up fifty percent. Some houses in some areas I saw
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: their property tax bill went up like sixty percent. Widely
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 1: reported that about a very sizable chunk of property owners
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 1: in Ohio now can no longer afford to pay the
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 1: property tax, which means are effectively being evicted from a
• 1:58:49
  Speaker 1: home they may very well have owned. This is this
• 1:58:52
  Speaker 1: is like taxing capital gains before you realize the capital gain.
• 1:58:55
  Speaker 1: And we made that argument many times here in the
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 1: Morning show. But frustration mounted point where now there's a
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 1: ballot petition circulating to get on the Ohio ballot probably
• 1:59:03
  Speaker 1: next year, a constitutional amendment that would eliminate property taxes
• 1:59:08
  Speaker 1: in Ohio. Now, other states don't have property tax, but
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 1: we do in Ohio. And the complications that arise are
• 1:59:16
  Speaker 1: almost too much to even break down. But if you
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  Speaker 1: eliminate property tax, so much of what is funded by
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  Speaker 1: property tax would have to be funded by a different mechanism.
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  Speaker 1: You think police, fire, parks, recreation. We could go on
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  Speaker 1: and on and on. So eliminating completely is going to
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  Speaker 1: create Will it be insurmountable challenges for you and they're
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  Speaker 1: elected officials in Columbus? Or is there a better way, like,
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  Speaker 1: for example, your resolution which let us a vote on
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  Speaker 1: maybe just eliminating property taxes from primary ownership from homes
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  Speaker 1: where you're the owner occupied homes? Mark, can you explain
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  Speaker 1: this to my listeners and do we have a path
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  Speaker 1: or this way?
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  Speaker 6: Well, you're exactly right, and and my you know, the
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  Speaker 6: biggest problem with property tax is all about money stays local.
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  Speaker 6: It's your fire department, your libraries, your school district, and
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  Speaker 6: you know people want those services. So you know, to
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  Speaker 6: just abolish your fire department and ems departments that we
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  Speaker 6: can't do that. So you know, I've watched the abolished
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  Speaker 6: movement and I don't disagree with their premise, but there
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  Speaker 6: is a serious problem in replacing that funding. It's twenty
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  Speaker 6: four billion dollars statewide, and quite frankly, I don't know
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  Speaker 6: where we would get it from. The cuts to government
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  Speaker 6: would be so deep that we would get to cutting
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  Speaker 6: things that people don't want cut. So, you know, as
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  Speaker 6: I looked at it and thought about it, I thought,
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  Speaker 6: you know, well, there's got to be a better way
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  Speaker 6: where we don't have to go quite as deep. And
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  Speaker 6: my premise with this resolution is we would continue to
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  Speaker 6: tax businesses. They're making money, so they're making money, they
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  Speaker 6: can afford to pay some tax. If you own two homes,
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  Speaker 6: you're going to pay tax on one of them. And
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  Speaker 6: my premise is if you've got enough money to own
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  Speaker 6: to the homes, you can afford to pay some tax.
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  Speaker 6: So I'm you know, I'm just trying to find a
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  Speaker 6: way to get some fairness and some balance in this
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  Speaker 6: thing and provide real relief to the people that are
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  Speaker 6: getting hit by this. These increases, they're still coming, they're
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  Speaker 6: not over yet. And if you're on a fixed income
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  Speaker 6: on social sturity, you get maybe a two or three
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  Speaker 6: percent annual increase, get your property tax bills going up
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  Speaker 6: thirty percent a year, and well, we cannot chase people
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  Speaker 6: out of their homes. That just is not a non
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  Speaker 6: starter for me.
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  Speaker 1: Representative Mark Kiner. You know, I just read a yet
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  Speaker 1: another report speaking of social security and fixed incomes. Our
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  Speaker 1: seniors out there may be facing a twenty two percent
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  Speaker 1: reduction in their monthly Social Security check if they don't sow.
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  Speaker 1: That's that's one mechanism to salvage social security, which you know,
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  Speaker 1: the trust funds running out, the writing's on the wall.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty thirty two is like the deadline for that. So
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  Speaker 1: you're you're going in opposite directions. Less social Security money,
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  Speaker 1: unfixed in coming to higher property tax wasn't House Built
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  Speaker 1: one eighty six some measure of relief from the you know,
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  Speaker 1: the the thirty percent fifty sixty percent increases in taxes
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  Speaker 1: here in Ohio. That's been an effect since March. But
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  Speaker 1: it just doesn't lower the bill. Does House Built one
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  Speaker 1: eighty six?
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  Speaker 6: No, And and I've been frustrated because the reductions have
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  Speaker 6: not been consistent. I represent three different counties and one
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  Speaker 6: of them got a massive decrease, one of them was flat,
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  Speaker 6: and one of them had a little bit of a decrease,
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  Speaker 6: so it you know, one eighty six, and I've supported
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  Speaker 6: all of the bills that give any sort of relief
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  Speaker 6: at all, uh, because I think we have to do
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  Speaker 6: everything we can, but it's it's not enough in my opinion.
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  Speaker 6: And you know, the more I look at it, I
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  Speaker 6: you know, I think we can get rid of it.
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  Speaker 6: For owner occupied homes, it's ten billion dollars that you've
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  Speaker 6: got to replace. The money has to come from somewhere.
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  Speaker 6: And you know the other side of this that that
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  Speaker 6: a lot of people don't know about yet is we've
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  Speaker 6: been working over the summer trying to figure out where
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  Speaker 6: that money would come from. And the plan is to
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  Speaker 6: introduce a second bill that would explain that. So when
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  Speaker 6: you go to vote on this, if we can get
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  Speaker 6: it onto the ballot, you will understand exactly what's going
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  Speaker 6: to happen. Your property tax will go away, but you know,
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  Speaker 6: here will be what the changes are, and you can
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  Speaker 6: decide whether that's good or bad and vote accordingly.
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  Speaker 1: Ten billion dollars a year by eliminating the owner occupied
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  Speaker 1: residential property taxes, you know, and the swirling numbers were
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  Speaker 1: surrounded by all the time. Representative Mark Heiner from the
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  Speaker 1: ninety eighth district. Here in the state of Ohio, billions
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  Speaker 1: and billions in fraud, waste, and abuse. And we all
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  Speaker 1: know government's probably a little bit too big here in
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  Speaker 1: the state of Ohio relative to other governments. When you
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  Speaker 1: look at, like, for example, a state like Florida, the
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  Speaker 1: amount of money Florida spends annually from their government and
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  Speaker 1: the lower taxes they have, it's almost it's like an
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  Speaker 1: amazing recipe for success that has been revealed by the
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  Speaker 1: state of Florida. What is How is it that Ohio
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  Speaker 1: just sort of can't flip a switch and then be
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  Speaker 1: like Florida, for example, in terms of the government and
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  Speaker 1: its expenditures.
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  Speaker 6: Well, and I agree with you completely.
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  Speaker 5: It's it's difficult.
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  Speaker 6: I always compare government to a train going down the tracks.
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  Speaker 6: It's difficult. You can't make a ninety degree turn. You
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  Speaker 6: if you're lucky, you can nudget and veer off a
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  Speaker 6: slightly different direction. You know, there's your Your previous segment
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  Speaker 6: was talking about the lobbying efforts on the federal tax Yeah,
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  Speaker 6: and you know there's a lot of lobbyists at play
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  Speaker 6: that that you know, rightfully, so our lobbying for their
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  Speaker 6: for their constituency trying to make sure that things don't change,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, we're just to a point where we've
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  Speaker 6: got to have serious conversations about these things. We cannot
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  Speaker 6: keep doing this to our taxpayers.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that's protecting their slice of the pie. Immediately, the
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  Speaker 1: teachers unions popped in my head, because of course this
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  Speaker 1: represents a threat to school funding, like really like police
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  Speaker 1: funding and fire funding as well. They're protecting their own interest,
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  Speaker 1: which means you and I agree, and I think there's
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  Speaker 1: probably no one in Columbus that could disagree with the
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  Speaker 1: realities that we have here. Property tax is a problem
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  Speaker 1: for all all constituents, regardless of political stripe. That way
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  Speaker 1: you help out is you curb the government spending which
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  Speaker 1: rubs the people the wrong way who have these lobbying
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  Speaker 1: interests like the teachers union. They want to keep the
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  Speaker 1: status quo. But we can't do that. So this really
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  Speaker 1: comes down to getting re elected or winning in an election,
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  Speaker 1: because if you if you turn your back and you
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  Speaker 1: go the direction of property tax reform and those dollars
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  Speaker 1: are reduced to these bobbyists out there that want their
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  Speaker 1: slice of the pie, they're not gonna support your campaign
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  Speaker 1: and that's fine, but will end up in a better way.
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  Speaker 1: The degree turn will be making that turn. You know,
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  Speaker 1: you can't do that. One need to turn and turn
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  Speaker 1: into Florida overnight. But you got to get there at
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  Speaker 1: some point. You got to start somewhere. And that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: r that's gonna uffle some feathers out there. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe sucks to be you people who've had your feathers ruffled.
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  Speaker 1: We need to go in this direction for the benefit
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  Speaker 1: of the state of Ohio and all people.
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  Speaker 6: No, you're you're right, and I'm in complete agreement, and
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  Speaker 6: it's it is. You know, there's a lot of people
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  Speaker 6: look at this, you know, House Resolution seven, and they say, well,
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  Speaker 6: that's impossible, you'll never get that done. And they may
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  Speaker 6: be right. I don't know, but if we don't try,
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  Speaker 6: we certainly won't get it done. So you know, I'm
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  Speaker 6: I'm willing to make big, you know, big bold suggestions.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I don't know if this is the perfect solution.
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  Speaker 6: If it starts a conversation that leads to the perfect solution,
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  Speaker 6: so be it. I don't even care if I get
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  Speaker 6: the credit for it. I just want to get this
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  Speaker 6: work done. We've got to fix this problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Mark in terms of whether this has any legs
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  Speaker 1: or it could actually be passed. Why wouldn't it get passed.
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  Speaker 1: If the people of the state of Ohio circulate a
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  Speaker 1: ballot petition and put it on the ballot to eliminate completely,
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  Speaker 1: that's twenty plus billion that'll be taken out of the coffers.
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  Speaker 1: This just takes just takes ten billion out and gives
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  Speaker 1: the relief that the single owner occupied homes are looking for.
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  Speaker 1: So I think it has a very good potential.
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  Speaker 6: No, and I do too. I think it makes a
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  Speaker 6: lot of sense. It's you know, instead of looking for
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  Speaker 6: twenty four billion, we're looking for ten. But at the
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  Speaker 6: end of the day, the real answer is, in order
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  Speaker 6: for this to get traction, I need the abolished people
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  Speaker 6: to get their signatures. To keep the pressure on my
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  Speaker 6: colleagues to keep this moving because it's you know, politically,
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  Speaker 6: there's there's not a lot of benefit for a politician
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  Speaker 6: to make big, bold suggestions because if we get it wrong,
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  Speaker 6: then then you're the bad guy. It's a lot easier
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  Speaker 6: to just maintain this status quo and make small incremental
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  Speaker 6: change and and you know, you've got to be careful
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  Speaker 6: when government's making big dramatic change because more often enough
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  Speaker 6: they get it wrong. So, you know, and that's the
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  Speaker 6: other piece of this. I want to make sure we
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  Speaker 6: have a statewide conversation about this. Yeah, and everyone has
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  Speaker 6: inputs so we get it right, because every change you
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  Speaker 6: make has a consequence that you've got to think about. Well,
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  Speaker 6: you know, we don't we don't want seniors on the
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  Speaker 6: streets and children not getting lunch at school and all
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  Speaker 6: that kind of stuff. All, you know, all the things
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  Speaker 6: that get that that get said. But you know, we
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  Speaker 6: we just we need to look at all of this
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  Speaker 6: with a big picture view and make sure we get
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  Speaker 6: it right. And I think we can.
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  Speaker 1: I think you can as well. So I tell you
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  Speaker 1: what a representative Heiner. It has been a real pleasure
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  Speaker 1: to have you on the program, and I appreciate your
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  Speaker 1: maybe call it out of the box thinking, but I
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  Speaker 1: think the idea that you have presented with this House
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  Speaker 1: Resolution seven, which if adopted, will give us a chance
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  Speaker 1: to vote on it, as opposed to it just being
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  Speaker 1: legislation passed and pushed through and probably not signed by
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  Speaker 1: governor to wine. But it's an excellent idea. I like
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  Speaker 1: it conceptually it's not as painful for all these other
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  Speaker 1: entities out there as completely eliminating the property tax. And
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  Speaker 1: I think we can survive without the actual ten billion
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  Speaker 1: dollars in Ohio's government. Correct, quite and honest with you, sir.
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  Speaker 1: You're all come here in the fifty five Casse Morning
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  Speaker 1: Show anytime if this bill moves forward, if you got
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  Speaker 1: some action on it, or something else you want to
• 2:08:41
  Speaker 1: talk about with my listeners, I will appreciate you coming
• 2:08:44
  Speaker 1: back on, and you're welcome to do so, sir. And
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  Speaker 1: between now and then, I hope you have a wonderful,
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  Speaker 1: wonderful day and week