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- 0:02Speaker 1: Welcome to the Three Martini Lunch. Grab a stolnext to
- 0:05Speaker 1: Greg Corumbus of Radio America and Jim Garrity of National Review.
- 0:10Speaker 1: Free martinis coming up.
- 0:13Speaker 2: Welcome to the Last Call of the Week for the
- 0:15Speaker 2: Three Martini Lunch. This is our weekly recap of some
- 0:18Speaker 2: of the biggest stories of the week. Jim Garrity was
- 0:21Speaker 2: on vacation, so we enjoyed hearing from some guest hosts,
- 0:24Speaker 2: including National Reviews Charlie Cook. In this edition of Last Call,
- 0:29Speaker 2: Charlie and I discussed three different examples this week of
- 0:32Speaker 2: how the left is losing touch with reality. We react
- 0:35Speaker 2: to Jim Acosta's absurd analogy to President Trump's name coming
- 0:40Speaker 2: off the Kennedy Center, the left's meltdown over Elon Musk
- 0:43Speaker 2: becoming a trillionaire, and an NBC poll showing a sharp
- 0:47Speaker 2: divide between right and left over who is proud to
- 0:50Speaker 2: be an American? And in our Chaser of the Week,
- 0:53Speaker 2: even winning an NBA title doesn't diminish the desire for
- 0:56Speaker 2: a lower tax bill. But we begin with Jim Acosta's
- 1:00Speaker 2: the night vigil at the Kennedy Center and an utterly
- 1:03Speaker 2: ridiculous comparison. Well, let's start with one of these weird things.
- 1:08Speaker 2: We see these Democratic vigils where they think they can
- 1:11Speaker 2: own Trump for just a little bit. They're just gleeful
- 1:13Speaker 2: for a chance to stick it to Donald Trump. I remember,
- 1:17Speaker 2: was it even in London. You probably know this better
- 1:18Speaker 2: than I would London when there was the Trump baby
- 1:21Speaker 2: balloon that some protester had and this turned into like
- 1:24Speaker 2: this day's worth of coverage that just oh, they're humiliating Trump.
- 1:28Speaker 2: It's we just got to keep showing this.
- 1:30Speaker 1: Well.
- 1:31Speaker 2: A judge recently ruled that Trump's name has to come
- 1:33Speaker 2: off the Kennedy Center in Washington, d C. And there's
- 1:36Speaker 2: a debate about that. And I don't really care what
- 1:39Speaker 2: happens with the Kennedy Center name, but if the law
- 1:41Speaker 2: says that it's got to be an Act of Congress
- 1:44Speaker 2: to change the name, then that should be the law.
- 1:46Speaker 2: And there for you know, his name shouldn't be on there.
- 1:48Speaker 2: But the Democrats are very very excited to see the
- 1:51Speaker 2: name come off, and they're very frustrated that right now
- 1:54Speaker 2: there's this kind of scrim this covering that even though
- 1:57Speaker 2: the name's not on the building anymore, they can't see
- 2:00Speaker 2: that it's not on there, and so they're basically holding
- 2:03Speaker 2: a vigil like they're watching the Vatican chimney for the
- 2:06Speaker 2: smoke that there's a new pope elected or something. But
- 2:10Speaker 2: if that weren't enough, you've got crazy people like Jim Acosta,
- 2:14Speaker 2: formerly of CNN making the most ridiculous comparisons to Trump's
- 2:18Speaker 2: name coming off the Kennedy Center.
- 2:20Speaker 3: This is a giant waste of time, and it's a
- 2:23Speaker 3: sign of what a petulant manchild he can be. But
- 2:29Speaker 3: as we've been saying all night long and all day
- 2:32Speaker 3: long for that matter, this is very much like watching
- 2:37Speaker 3: the Berlin Wall coming down.
- 2:39Speaker 1: It is a sign that.
- 2:42Speaker 3: Mankind, that humankind can stand up against tyranny.
- 2:46Speaker 2: Charlie, waste of time and you know, whatever dementa. Whatever
- 2:50Speaker 2: word he used there to describe Trump could easily be
- 2:52Speaker 2: used to describe Jim Acosta spending all day waiting for
- 2:56Speaker 2: the moment he could finally confirm that Trump's names not
- 2:58Speaker 2: in the building.
- 2:59Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 2:59Speaker 5: Well, I think that's the point, which is that the
- 3:02Speaker 5: argument against this, which I agree with, is that it
- 3:06Speaker 5: was petty and narcissistic. It's just not what a president
- 3:09Speaker 5: should be doing. It's not called the Trump Kennedy Center
- 3:12Speaker 5: it's called the Kennedy Center. The law says Kennedy Center.
- 3:16Speaker 5: But you can't move seamlessly from petty, which it is
- 3:20Speaker 5: to It's like the Berlin Wall coming down and you
- 3:24Speaker 5: have to pick a lane. So my view is it
- 3:26Speaker 5: was petty for him to do it, and now that
- 3:29Speaker 5: petty thing is being undone apply the same level of
- 3:32Speaker 5: magnitude to each one. I think that some of these people,
- 3:38Speaker 5: I think two things. I think first, they are desperate
- 3:41Speaker 5: for anything that they can use as a substitute for
- 3:45Speaker 5: re litigating the last election. I don't mean that they're
- 3:50Speaker 5: denying the election, but I think they think that if
- 3:54Speaker 5: they can take his name off a building, he won't
- 3:58Speaker 5: be president anymore, or at least so that access as substitute.
- 4:02Speaker 5: That that's the Catharsis for them, that it's similar in
- 4:05Speaker 5: some way, which of course it's not. Second, one of
- 4:10Speaker 5: the problems with modern progressivism, and in this respect it
- 4:13Speaker 5: differs from older progressivism, is that it is filled with
- 4:18Speaker 5: people who believe that words create reality rather than reflect reality,
- 4:28Speaker 5: and they are as a result, absolutely obsessed with what
- 4:33Speaker 5: names are on buildings, what people are expected to call
- 4:37Speaker 5: each other. They think that they can invent new terms
- 4:41Speaker 5: birthing person, for example, and that that will change the
- 4:44Speaker 5: underlying sexual reality of human beings. And I think you're
- 4:48Speaker 5: seeing that here. They're very, very excited about this, because
- 4:53Speaker 5: to them, what really matters is the words that you
- 4:57Speaker 5: put on things, and if you take his name off
- 4:59Speaker 5: the building, then that somehow changes realty. But it doesn't.
- 5:02Speaker 5: He's still going to be president until twenty twenty nine,
- 5:06Speaker 5: so really they should find better things to do.
- 5:09Speaker 2: Jim has made the point. We talked about it with
- 5:10Speaker 2: Scott Pelley last week as he got fired from CBS
- 5:14Speaker 2: News in sixty minutes. And you know, you have all
- 5:16Speaker 2: these people when they're in these corporate media jobs and
- 5:20Speaker 2: they take heat for being partisan or biased, like no, no, no,
- 5:23Speaker 2: we are objective reporters. We are simply reporting the facts.
- 5:27Speaker 2: How dare you suggest that? And then the minute they
- 5:29Speaker 2: go on their substack or their free agents, they're about
- 5:32Speaker 2: as hard left as you can possibly buy.
- 5:34Speaker 5: Yeah, And Jim Acoss is a funny one because not
- 5:36Speaker 5: only does he fit that description, but he really does
- 5:40Speaker 5: believe himself to be some sort of hero, and he
- 5:42Speaker 5: wrote a ridiculous book last time around. He talked about
- 5:47Speaker 5: himself as if he was serving on Okinawa in late
- 5:52Speaker 5: nineteen forties. He is now camping out and pretending that
- 5:58Speaker 5: he's watching the Berlin coming down. And obviously we played
- 6:01Speaker 5: that clip and it's implied, but is worth just for
- 6:03Speaker 5: a brief moment thinking about what he's suggesting there. Trump's
- 6:08Speaker 5: name is not going to be on a building in
- 6:10Speaker 5: a free republic. The Berlin Wall was the main mechanism
- 6:15Speaker 5: by which the Soviets Union kept millions of people tracked
- 6:19Speaker 5: in each Germany. Did he say that free people can
- 6:22Speaker 5: rally and defeat tyranny? Tyranny? I mean, this was a
- 6:26Speaker 5: renaming of a building petty I think illegal too. I
- 6:30Speaker 5: don't like that about Trump, but tyranny, we're just we've
- 6:34Speaker 5: lost all conception of what our grandfathers went through.
- 6:38Speaker 2: Yes, this is very much like watching the Berlin Wall
- 6:41Speaker 2: come down. And then he said it's a sign that mankind,
- 6:44Speaker 2: But then he caught himself because oh, we can't call
- 6:46Speaker 2: it mankind. It's a sign that humankind can stand up
- 6:49Speaker 2: against tyranny, because we certainly wouldn't want to offend anyone
- 6:52Speaker 2: in the intersectional world. So Jim a Casta is living
- 6:56Speaker 2: up to every inch of what we expect from Jim Casta,
- 6:59Speaker 2: But I don't know. Maybe he's still out there on
- 7:02Speaker 2: the patio of the Kennedy Center days later, trying to
- 7:05Speaker 2: figure out what's going on behind the screens, to.
- 7:07Speaker 5: A champagne in his hand.
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- 8:36Speaker 2: minds because Elon Musk became a trillionaire well after Jim
- 8:40Speaker 2: and I recorded on Friday, but for a lot of
- 8:42Speaker 2: Friday and into the weekend, one of the things that
- 8:45Speaker 2: really had the left of really mad was the fact
- 8:48Speaker 2: that SpaceX went public and as a result, on paper,
- 8:53Speaker 2: Elon Musk has become the first trillionaire, worth about one
- 8:57Speaker 2: point one or one point two trillion dollars. As a
- 8:59Speaker 2: result of this depending on which estimate you look at.
- 9:02Speaker 2: And the Left is losing its mind over this, so
- 9:05Speaker 2: many different reactions. You've got Graham Platner up there in
- 9:09Speaker 2: Maine simply saying, Elon Musk just became the world's first trillionaire.
- 9:13Speaker 2: Let's make sure he's also the last. Which could be
- 9:15Speaker 2: about economics or could be more sinister than that, depending
- 9:18Speaker 2: on how you interpret it. I'll give him the benefit
- 9:21Speaker 2: of the doubt, which maybe I shouldn't. But nonetheless, he
- 9:23Speaker 2: doesn't think there should be any trillionaires. Doesn't think there
- 9:25Speaker 2: should be any billionaires either. By the way, Bernie Sanders says,
- 9:29Speaker 2: Elon Musk's rise to trillionaire status is not a time
- 9:32Speaker 2: to celebrate. It to cull to action, to take on
- 9:34Speaker 2: the unprecedented income and wealth inequality that now exists and
- 9:37Speaker 2: the greed and power of a ruling class that is
- 9:39Speaker 2: destroying the social fabric of America. Elizabeth Warren, Elon Musk
- 9:44Speaker 2: just became the world's first trillionaire. The typical American household
- 9:47Speaker 2: would have to work more than eleven million years to
- 9:49Speaker 2: make Elon Musk's level of wealth. We need a wealth tax.
- 9:54Speaker 2: The other Massachusetts Senator Ed Markey says a five percent
- 9:57Speaker 2: tax on Elon's net worth would fund every community health
- 10:00Speaker 2: center in America for the next twenty six years. I'll
- 10:03Speaker 2: say it again, tax the rich. Well, they have trillions
- 10:06Speaker 2: of dollars to spend every year. They don't seem to
- 10:08Speaker 2: get the same results as Elon Musk. That's an interesting
- 10:10Speaker 2: question and of itself. But they act like Elon Musk
- 10:13Speaker 2: just happened into this money. It's not like he put
- 10:15Speaker 2: his own capital into this and found it. Here's my list,
- 10:18Speaker 2: it's probably in complete, PayPal, Tesla, Starlink, Neuralink, SpaceX, and
- 10:23Speaker 2: of course buying what used to be Twitter now X.
- 10:26Speaker 2: So this is a guy putting a lot of skin
- 10:28Speaker 2: into the game. He's getting rewarded for it in the
- 10:30Speaker 2: left can't handle it.
- 10:32Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 10:32Speaker 5: And before that, it was a company I was reading
- 10:33Speaker 5: about last night called zip two, which was a really
- 10:36Speaker 5: early internet service that was bought by Compac for three
- 10:42Speaker 5: hundred million dollars in the late nineties. So, you know,
- 10:45Speaker 5: most people that would be the one thing they did
- 10:47Speaker 5: in their whole life was sell a company, the Compac
- 10:49Speaker 5: for three hundred million dollars. He made about eighteen million
- 10:52Speaker 5: dollars at that and he immediately plowed it into PayPal,
- 10:55Speaker 5: and when he made his money from PayPal, he immediately
- 10:58Speaker 5: plowed it into SpaceX and Tesla and others. Because this
- 11:02Speaker 5: is who he is. I don't know where to start
- 11:05Speaker 5: with this, Greg, so I'll start with this. I hate
- 11:08Speaker 5: this so much. I hate this reaction. It revolts me.
- 11:13Speaker 5: It's not just politically, it's I moved to this country
- 11:17Speaker 5: because this is the attitude that I see elsewhere. And
- 11:23Speaker 5: there's this guy called Harry Echoles, who's this English green socialist,
- 11:27Speaker 5: and he tweeted out Elon Musk has a trillion pounds,
- 11:30Speaker 5: and he doesn't. He doesn't have a trillion pounds, he
- 11:34Speaker 5: has a trillion dollars. There's a reason no one has
- 11:37Speaker 5: anything close to a trillion pounds, and it's because of
- 11:40Speaker 5: this envious, sclerotic, myopic attitude that you see in Europe.
- 11:46Speaker 5: But you also, unfortunately see from all of the people
- 11:49Speaker 5: you just described. We want people like Elon Musk. It
- 11:52Speaker 5: doesn't matter if you personally like Elon Musk. It doesn't
- 11:56Speaker 5: matter if you think he's virtuous or not. He's not.
- 11:58Speaker 1: Really.
- 11:59Speaker 5: It doesn't matter whether he is a weirdo. He is
- 12:03Speaker 5: most of the great inventors entrepreneurs of history have been weird.
- 12:10Speaker 5: If you look at the British aristocracy, which was heavily
- 12:13Speaker 5: involved in science and innovation in the nineteenth century, they
- 12:18Speaker 5: were out of their minds. Now Eilan Muski is too,
- 12:21Speaker 5: he said himself, he probably has aspergers. He doesn't pick
- 12:24Speaker 5: up on social cues and so forth. I just don't care.
- 12:27Speaker 5: There's nothing I care less about than that. What I
- 12:29Speaker 5: care about is that he's found a way of cutting
- 12:32Speaker 5: the cost of going into orbit by up to ninety percent.
- 12:36Speaker 5: I care about the fact that he's built a system
- 12:38Speaker 5: of satellites that deliver internet, fast Internet everywhere in.
- 12:42Speaker 1: The whole world.
- 12:43Speaker 5: I care about the fact that he developed the first
- 12:45Speaker 5: useful electric car that can drive itself, and that he
- 12:48Speaker 5: seems to be developing software that allows people who are
- 12:50Speaker 5: completely disabled to control machines with their minds. That's what
- 12:55Speaker 5: I care about. So I don't care that he has
- 12:57Speaker 5: a lot of money. But also he doesn't have a
- 12:59Speaker 5: lot of money in the way the Left seems to
- 13:01Speaker 5: think that he has a lot of money, which is
- 13:02Speaker 5: that he's sitting like Scrooge McDuck with his great big
- 13:05Speaker 5: vault full of coins. The money is the companies. It's
- 13:10Speaker 5: not extricable from it. The value of it is what
- 13:14Speaker 5: people already or in the future will assigned to that
- 13:17Speaker 5: company because they believe that it will do something useful.
- 13:21Speaker 5: If that goes away, either because Elon is forced to
- 13:23Speaker 5: sell his companies for money to pay the government or
- 13:25Speaker 5: because he fails, that valuation will drop, drop, drop. So
- 13:30Speaker 5: I just think this whole thing is very stupid. But
- 13:32Speaker 5: it's also exactly the sort of instinct that I left
- 13:37Speaker 5: quite willingly left at home in England and move to
- 13:40Speaker 5: a new home because I love the fact that we
- 13:42Speaker 5: have these sort of people here who do things.
- 13:44Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, so well said. Been a couple of follow
- 13:47Speaker 2: up points here. First of all, the left doesn't hate billionaires.
- 13:51Speaker 2: They hate billionaires that don't agree with them. When Elon
- 13:54Speaker 2: Musk was voting for Obama, they were fine with the
- 13:56Speaker 2: Elon Musk, They had no problems with them whatsoever. They
- 13:58Speaker 2: only have a problem with the Elon Musk once he
- 14:00Speaker 2: decided that he really appreciated free speech and wanted to
- 14:03Speaker 2: buy X. Then he became enemy number one. And then
- 14:05Speaker 2: he supported Donald Trump, and that made him absolutely anathema
- 14:09Speaker 2: to these people. And so that's why we started torching
- 14:13Speaker 2: Tesla dealerships when he started to run the Doge operation there.
- 14:17Speaker 2: And the other thing is is, you know, people like well,
- 14:19Speaker 2: the left economically has really gotten far off the course
- 14:23Speaker 2: here with Bernie and Graham Plattner. That's not the this
- 14:26Speaker 2: is not a recent trend. This is I think twenty
- 14:29Speaker 2: ten with Barack Obama.
- 14:31Speaker 4: I want to be clear, we're not trying to push
- 14:35Speaker 4: financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean,
- 14:42Speaker 4: I do think at a certain point you've made enough money.
- 14:45Speaker 2: No, No, at a certain point we haven't made enough money.
- 14:48Speaker 2: We have the ambition and the success and the drive
- 14:50Speaker 2: and the ideas that customers will respond to. We can
- 14:53Speaker 2: make as much as we possibly want. And so this
- 14:55Speaker 2: idea on the left that somehow, I don't know whether
- 14:58Speaker 2: they think it's ultimately they they're chunk of the money,
- 15:01Speaker 2: then that somehow you should have a cap on what
- 15:03Speaker 2: you can earn. I don't know where this originated from,
- 15:06Speaker 2: but it's been around for way too long, and like again,
- 15:08Speaker 2: this reaction is ridiculous.
- 15:10Speaker 5: Well but again, what does it mean? Because if you
- 15:14Speaker 5: were to put some artificial, arbitrary limit on it, forget
- 15:18Speaker 5: government policy for a second. Just describe morality to it.
- 15:21Speaker 5: So let's say it's two hundred million dollars. It has
- 15:24Speaker 5: to be at least that, because Rocana is running around
- 15:27Speaker 5: complaining and he's worth more than that. So let's say
- 15:31Speaker 5: it's that. Well, when masksol PayPal, he made one hundred
- 15:35Speaker 5: and eighty million dollars after taxes in cash. So would
- 15:38Speaker 5: that have been better for him to say, you know,
- 15:41Speaker 5: I think I've made enough money now and then just
- 15:44Speaker 5: go live in a big house somewhere and spend all
- 15:46Speaker 5: day driving fast cars and drink drinks with umbrellas in them.
- 15:49Speaker 5: Or was it good that he put one hundred million
- 15:52Speaker 5: dollars into Tesla and seventy into SpaceX and ten into
- 15:57Speaker 5: this solar company that's SEMs to have done quite well,
- 16:00Speaker 5: but no one ever talks about. I think it was
- 16:03Speaker 5: good funny. Now, I actually have a not direct but
- 16:07Speaker 5: a close ish family member who works for SpaceX who
- 16:11Speaker 5: came from nothing and probably I haven't asked him, but
- 16:13Speaker 5: probably did pretty well on Friday. So I would imagine
- 16:17Speaker 5: that he thinks it's pretty good that Elon must didn't
- 16:21Speaker 5: just sit down. So what Obama is really saying there
- 16:24Speaker 5: and what Graham Platner is saying far more explicitly is
- 16:28Speaker 5: we don't want SpaceX, we don't want Tesla, we don't
- 16:32Speaker 5: want Neuraling, we don't want the boring company. That's what
- 16:34Speaker 5: he's saying, because that's the obvious consequence of telling rich
- 16:38Speaker 5: people not to make more money, because the way rich
- 16:41Speaker 5: people make more money is they invest or, they start companies.
- 16:43Speaker 5: That's it. That's the only way it happens. And I
- 16:46Speaker 5: think we want investment. I think we want innovation. I
- 16:48Speaker 5: think it's what makes America America.
- 16:51Speaker 2: It's yeah, punishing success and just this division and pitting
- 16:56Speaker 2: people against each other and envy. There's class envy that
- 16:59Speaker 2: they're really ginning up here, and that's pretty much their
- 17:01Speaker 2: whole deal with some of these candidates that they're running.
- 17:04Speaker 2: And it's absolutely distasteful and completely contrary to the American
- 17:09Speaker 2: founding and the pursuit of happiness. I think Elon Musk
- 17:12Speaker 2: is pursuing what he considers happiness. Like you said, his
- 17:15Speaker 2: personal life and he's gone about siring children is kind
- 17:18Speaker 2: of a whole mess of its own. But what he's
- 17:21Speaker 2: accomplished professionally is amazing, utterally amazing. It should be cheered
- 17:24Speaker 2: and champion, not denigrated, and hopefully other people have ambition
- 17:29Speaker 2: to reach that level as well. That's the real lesson here.
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- 19:50Speaker 6: Look extremely proud, very proud.
- 19:52Speaker 1: Those numbers together get you fifty six percent.
- 19:55Speaker 6: At the other end of it, only a little or
- 19:58Speaker 6: not proud at all twenty one percent.
- 20:01Speaker 1: The significance of this this number is in.
- 20:03Speaker 6: Decline, a steady twenty first century decline.
- 20:06Speaker 1: At the turn of the century.
- 20:07Speaker 6: Three quarters of Americans were extremely or very proud. That
- 20:11Speaker 6: numbers full and to fifty six percent. What's behind this,
- 20:14Speaker 6: It's familiar fault lines Christian political demographic tech.
- 20:18Speaker 1: Check this out here. First, it's partisan. Look at this.
- 20:21Speaker 6: Republicans are almost universally going to tell you extremely are
- 20:24Speaker 6: very proud.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Look at that number for Democrats.
- 20:27Speaker 6: And meanwhile, only a little or not at all twelve
- 20:29Speaker 6: times as many Democrats.
- 20:31Speaker 1: Say that compared to Republicans.
- 20:33Speaker 6: We have talked about age here so many times. Older
- 20:36Speaker 6: Americans more likely to have that extremely proud feeling.
- 20:39Speaker 1: Younger Americans much more ambivalent.
- 20:41Speaker 2: So ninety percent of Republicans proud to be an American,
- 20:44Speaker 2: just twenty nine percent of Democrats. If you're over sixty five,
- 20:47Speaker 2: sixty five percent proud, and only thirty six between the
- 20:50Speaker 2: ages of eighteen and thirty four proud to be an American,
- 20:54Speaker 2: And so Charlie. If there's a Democratic president, that Republican
- 20:57Speaker 2: number might wobble a little, but it's still way in
- 20:59Speaker 2: the positive territory. When it comes to Democrats, it seems
- 21:02Speaker 2: like it's almost entirely conditional on the current politics of
- 21:04Speaker 2: the day.
- 21:06Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there are two mistakes here that the
- 21:08Speaker 5: first is to make your perception of the United States
- 21:13Speaker 5: and your pride in being a citizen of it contingent
- 21:16Speaker 5: upon who was president. And I didn't like America less
- 21:19Speaker 5: when Joe Biden was president or when Barack Obama was president,
- 21:24Speaker 5: and I'm particularly like this president. Doesn't change my view
- 21:27Speaker 5: of the United States. We're just talking about going on
- 21:30Speaker 5: road trips around the country. You'd be hard pressed to
- 21:33Speaker 5: know who was president traveling around most of the time.
- 21:36Speaker 5: That's not to say it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter,
- 21:38Speaker 5: but the day to day life that most people lead
- 21:41Speaker 5: is not filtered through the White House. Perhaps if you're
- 21:45Speaker 5: a political obsessive it is. But the second problem, and
- 21:49Speaker 5: I just think this is a sin basically is to
- 21:51Speaker 5: be ungrateful for what the United States is, not could
- 21:57Speaker 5: be and not would be if the right person and
- 22:00Speaker 5: was elected, or this law were passed, or people would.
- 22:02Speaker 1: Just do this.
- 22:03Speaker 5: All that but actually is right now, most of which
- 22:06Speaker 5: is the product of other people who built this for us.
- 22:08Speaker 5: Certainly me, I'm an immigrant, I did nothing, But you know,
- 22:11Speaker 5: most of us are the beneficiaries of our grandfathers and
- 22:15Speaker 5: great grandfathers who survived the depression and fought a world
- 22:19Speaker 5: war and the civil rights battles, and we just showed
- 22:23Speaker 5: up in this unbelievable place, me more than anyone in
- 22:28Speaker 5: twenty eleven. And I think if you can't see that
- 22:32Speaker 5: this country is utterly exceptional and just a phenomenal place
- 22:37Speaker 5: to be and raise a family and work, then you're
- 22:41Speaker 5: a fool. I'm just not that interested in all of
- 22:43Speaker 5: the caveats that people provide. It's foolish. If you were
- 22:50Speaker 5: pretty much anyone born anywhere at any point in human
- 22:53Speaker 5: history and you had the chance to live here right now,
- 22:57Speaker 5: you would do it. It would be a no brainer. So
- 23:00Speaker 5: for those who were given that not to appreciate it,
- 23:04Speaker 5: to me is absurd.
- 23:06Speaker 2: Certainly the prosperity of the character of the people. And
- 23:09Speaker 2: as we celebrate, you know, in the coming weeks here
- 23:11Speaker 2: with the principles of the Declaration of Independence, the radical
- 23:14Speaker 2: idea that we have God given rights and the whole
- 23:17Speaker 2: point of government is to secure those rights. And then
- 23:20Speaker 2: we put together a constitution and a bill of rights
- 23:22Speaker 2: that is still the envy of the world, or at
- 23:24Speaker 2: least should be. And instead we've got people absolutely nitpicking
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- 23:30Speaker 2: unfair place on earth when it is absolutely the most
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- 23:36Speaker 2: be happy. They love being miserable, and they hope they
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- 24:49Speaker 2: in between the time Charlie was British and the time
- 24:52Speaker 2: Charlie lived in the South, Charlie lived in New York
- 24:54Speaker 2: and so that's where we go for our chaser today.
- 24:56Speaker 2: For the first time in fifty three years, the New
- 24:59Speaker 2: York nick are NBA champions. They won it in five
- 25:02Speaker 2: games over the Spurs, making a pretty traumadic comeback in
- 25:05Speaker 2: all five games actually and winning four of them, clinching
- 25:09Speaker 2: it on Saturday night. Jalen Brunson. Just a magical performance
- 25:12Speaker 2: all throughout the playoffs, and he's the most valuable player
- 25:15Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals. And then he's also talking about
- 25:18Speaker 2: a lot of different things in the postgame press conference
- 25:20Speaker 2: on Saturday night. But you know, they were playing the
- 25:22Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs and intensity got pretty high there at
- 25:26Speaker 2: different points in the series, and so you know, the
- 25:28Speaker 2: question was, well, what do you think about Texas after
- 25:30Speaker 2: all this.
- 25:31Speaker 1: I have nothing against Texas. I love Texas. I miss
- 25:37Speaker 1: I missed the Texas taxes.
- 25:38Speaker 2: I missed the Texas taxes. Yeah, he used to play
- 25:41Speaker 2: for the Dallas Mavericks and then now he's in New York.
- 25:43Speaker 2: Of course, Texas has no income tax. As you know, Charlie,
- 25:46Speaker 2: I looked it up. New York has the third highest
- 25:48Speaker 2: state income tax behind California and Hawaii, just barely lower
- 25:52Speaker 2: than Hawaii maximum is ten point nine percent. Jim and
- 25:55Speaker 2: I talked earlier this year about how California taxes cost
- 25:57Speaker 2: the Seahawks quarterback more than the act made for winning
- 26:01Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Jalen Brunson, I'm sure he's not going
- 26:03Speaker 2: to be scrauching for coins on the couch, but right now,
- 26:06Speaker 2: I'm sure he does. Where she was in Texas financially
- 26:09Speaker 2: compared to New York.
- 26:10Speaker 5: Yeah, so I'm not a Knicks fan, although I was
- 26:12Speaker 5: rooting for them because my wife's from New York and
- 26:14Speaker 5: so many people I work with her from New York.
- 26:17Speaker 5: So I didn't have that visceral feeling that you get
- 26:20Speaker 5: when your team wins. But it was a really exciting
- 26:24Speaker 5: series and I was hoping that they could pull it out,
- 26:26Speaker 5: and as she said, they just kept coming back. I
- 26:28Speaker 5: actually missed the big comeback. I have to confess. I
- 26:31Speaker 5: said to my wife, they're not coming back from thirty points.
- 26:33Speaker 5: So I turned it off. We went to sleep, woke
- 26:35Speaker 5: up in the morning, looked at Twitter, and someone said,
- 26:37Speaker 5: that's the first time in the history of the Finals
- 26:39Speaker 5: that any team has come back from that big a deficit.
- 26:42Speaker 5: Ninety six times it's happened. One time there was a comeback.
- 26:45Speaker 5: So I missed the great game, I guess. But look,
- 26:49Speaker 5: it does matter within the United States where you live,
- 26:52Speaker 5: and in his case, I would play for the next
- 26:55Speaker 5: if I were him. I mean, they just want a championship.
- 26:57Speaker 5: That's probably more important. But if you're doing most jobs,
- 27:01Speaker 5: then yeah, you're going to look at the taxes in
- 27:03Speaker 5: New York and the taxes in Texas or where I
- 27:05Speaker 5: live in Florida, and you're you're going to make a
- 27:08Speaker 5: rational decision. And it's not just the taxes, it's what
- 27:10Speaker 5: you get for it.
- 27:11Speaker 3: You know.
- 27:12Speaker 5: One of the first things when we moved down here
- 27:14Speaker 5: we did was go to the DMV. We had to
- 27:15Speaker 5: replace our licenses and change the tags on our car,
- 27:18Speaker 5: and it was this incredibly warm, friendly place, instant appointments,
- 27:24Speaker 5: you know, welcome to the South, honey kind of stuff like.
- 27:29Speaker 5: And I thought, this is not like the DMV in
- 27:32Speaker 5: New York City. So yeah, it does. It does matter.
- 27:36Speaker 5: But I'll just say I love New York too as
- 27:38Speaker 5: a place.
- 27:39Speaker 1: I love it.
- 27:39Speaker 5: It's a it's a great part of America, vibrant. I
- 27:41Speaker 5: was just there. What a wonderful city.
- 27:44Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us on this last call of the
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