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Epstein Whistleblower Thrown Under the Bus? HeroParanormal · Ryder Lee

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Speaker 3: This is Ryan, Ambassador of the airwaves, bringing you an
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Speaker 3: epic episode today with none other than writer Lee from
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Speaker 3: Raised by Giants. He's delved deeply into the recent death
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Speaker 3: of Epstein's number one accuser, the most prominent of the whistleblowers.
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Speaker 3: Writer Lee. Welcome to the Hero Paranormal Podcast.
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Speaker 2: What's going on? Ryan? Thanks for having me on.
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Speaker 3: Appreciate it, man, it's great to have you on this.
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Speaker 3: This is some crazy stuff we're going to be talking about,
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Speaker 3: and you know it is congratulations on finding it because
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Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to talking about this. As you know,
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Speaker 3: a lot of people just accept narratives and we've had
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Speaker 3: some pretty hard pills to swallow come through in the
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Speaker 3: last few But what are your thoughts about this recent
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Speaker 3: whistleblower Virginia Is it Giffrey and the extein whistleblower?
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Speaker 4: What are your thoughts about her passing?
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Speaker 2: Well, this was really interesting to me, Ryan, because I
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Speaker 2: had thought that see, a lot of people reached out
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Speaker 2: to me whenever she had her boss accident. Now the
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Speaker 2: bus accident happened March twenty fourth, okay, and then I
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Speaker 2: had thought that she had died in the bus accident.
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Speaker 2: That's what everybody told me. Like, and I didn't really
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Speaker 2: look into her, Brian, because I was like, Okay, well, people,
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Speaker 2: they didn't accidents happen all the time. Car accidents happened
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Speaker 2: all the time. It may just be a coincidence that
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Speaker 2: it was Jeffrey Epstein's number one accuser that you know
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Speaker 2: is going after Prince Andrew and all these people. It's
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Speaker 2: probably just a coincidence, right, That's what I chalked it
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Speaker 2: up to. So I didn't even look into it anymore.
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Speaker 2: But three people had messaged me, and I'm not gonna say,
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Speaker 2: you know their names or show the screenshots because it
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Speaker 2: has you know, their name and all their information in
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Speaker 2: it that she had died in this bus accident. Okay.
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Speaker 2: So this was very confusing on the twenty fifth when
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Speaker 2: it came out that she had committed suicide to me personally,
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Speaker 2: because I was like, I remember, just you know, three
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Speaker 2: weeks ago, everybody telling me that she had died in
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Speaker 2: this bus accident. Okay. So I thought that that was
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Speaker 2: really strange. And then I was like, okay, well, let
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Speaker 2: me try and dig into this a little bit more.
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Speaker 2: Let's try and get to the bottom of this, because
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Speaker 2: there's something weird with this bus accident, okay. So then
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Speaker 2: I started looking into the bus accident. It was like,
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Speaker 2: is this like a weird Mandela effect or whatever. But
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Speaker 2: then it turns out that she survived the bus accident,
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Speaker 2: but she was in the hospital six days after the
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Speaker 2: bus accident, and the police in Australia said that the
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Speaker 2: bus accident was a minor accident, that there were no
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Speaker 2: injuries during the bus accident other than that it had
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Speaker 2: two thousand dollars worth of damage. Now it's up in
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Speaker 2: the air whether that two thousand dollars worth of damage
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Speaker 2: was to the bus or to Virginia Giuffrey's car or
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Speaker 2: the vehicle. It's it's disputed. No one really knows. And
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Speaker 2: then it's also there's so many inconsistencies between the reporting
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Speaker 2: of this bus accident and what the police were saying.
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Speaker 2: The least said, actually, I even have the clip here
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Speaker 2: that we can even bring up here because this is
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Speaker 2: really telling. Let me get the share screen here, screen window,
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Speaker 2: share audio. Okay, here's the here's the clip. Can you
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Speaker 2: see it? Okay, can you hear it?
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Speaker 4: No, you can't hear it. Let me see you.
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Speaker 2: Didn't hear that? Mm hmmm ah man okay, Yeah. This
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Speaker 2: has been a problem with with Riverside. It doesn't like
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Speaker 2: to share audio.
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Speaker 3: What is the so that that's Australian News. It looks
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Speaker 3: like so you're going right to the source.
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Speaker 2: It's Australian News and it's it's a newscaster saying that
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Speaker 2: this uh basically trying to confront Virginia Giuffray's statements about
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Speaker 2: the bus accident and the police saying that they weren't
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Speaker 2: aware of any bus accident that caused any injuries. So
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Speaker 2: then that throws into dispute her entire story of the
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Speaker 2: screenshot that she posted in on Instagram on the thirtieth right,
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Speaker 2: which is this right here, yep, So she's looking really
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Speaker 2: beat up here. She's got a blackened, bruised eye, her
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Speaker 2: temples all bruised. It kind of looks like, maybe you know,
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Speaker 2: something more happened than a bus accident to her. Okay.
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Speaker 2: And the thing about Australia is the Australia's vehicles, the
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Speaker 2: driver's side is on the right side. It's not on
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Speaker 2: the left side like it is in the United States.
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Speaker 2: It's on the right side. And her injuries or to
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Speaker 2: the left side of her head. So if these injuries
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Speaker 2: came from the bus, then what did she hit her
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Speaker 2: head off of during the accident On the left side,
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Speaker 2: there would be nothing for her to hit her head
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Speaker 2: on to create all these bruises on the left side
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Speaker 2: of her temple and on her eye. Now in this
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Speaker 2: she says that she's also suffering from kidney failure. In
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Speaker 2: this she only has three to four days to live now.
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Speaker 2: She says that the doctors told her that she only
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Speaker 2: had three to four days to live now. Then I
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Speaker 2: looked into this article that said did Virginia Giffrey lie
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Speaker 2: about her injuries amidst the mistakenly posting this she has
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Speaker 2: three to four days to live? This is an MSN article.
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Speaker 2: Virginia Giffrey, known for her acquisition against Prince Andrew and
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Speaker 2: her volmit in the Jeffrey Epstein scandal, recently calls widespread
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Speaker 2: concern after claiming that she had just days to live
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Speaker 2: following a car crash. However, questions have since arisen about
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Speaker 2: the accuracy of her statement, with some critics suggesting her
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Speaker 2: claims may have been exaggerated. Okay, So I'm reading through
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Speaker 2: this article and I'm like, okay, Well, the police are
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Speaker 2: saying one thing, other people are saying another thing. The
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Speaker 2: police said that this was a minor incident, adding the
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Speaker 2: down so Western Australia Police later released a statement describing
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Speaker 2: the crash as a minor incident with no immediate reports
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Speaker 2: of injuries. The bus driver reportedly informed the authorities the
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Speaker 2: following day. So the bus accident happened on March twenty fourth,
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Speaker 2: there was the police didn't show up, okay, and then
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Speaker 2: the bus driver reported the accident the next day. And
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Speaker 2: then on March thirtieth, Virginia ends up in the hospital
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Speaker 2: looking like this, reportedly from the bus accident. Which makes
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Speaker 2: no sense, Ryan, How could you be in a bus accident,
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Speaker 2: be this banned and bruised up and not immediately be
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Speaker 2: in the hospital. And why was the police not called?
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Speaker 2: Why was the police not on the scene if there's
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Speaker 2: an accident. I don't know how it is in Australia.
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Speaker 2: Maybe it's completely different in Australia. I don't know, Ryan,
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Speaker 2: But in the United States, if you're involved in an
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Speaker 2: accident and you have any kind of injuries, the police
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Speaker 2: are immediately there because you have to have a police
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Speaker 2: report in order to get the insurance. Okay, So if
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Speaker 2: anybody's involved in a car crash, the insurance is not
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Speaker 2: going to pay out on that car crash unless there
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Speaker 2: was a police report filed on the scene. Okay. So
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Speaker 2: she's in the hospital six days later with this beat up,
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Speaker 2: bruised eye and her bruised temple, and then I'm thinking, okay, well,
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Speaker 2: why are people saying that she's exaggerating these you know,
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Speaker 2: these claims, and something's not adding up here. It's not
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Speaker 2: two and two is not equaling four on this whole scenario.
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Speaker 2: It's getting really strange. And then I'm like, okay, well,
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Speaker 2: because she looks like she's I mentioned this in the
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Speaker 2: very first show that I did on this on my
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Speaker 2: channel on Raised by Jant's called Virginia Giuffrey Mendela Effect,
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Speaker 2: and I had done a really quick episode on it
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Speaker 2: because I was going to be on somebody else's show,
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Speaker 2: so I had to cut the show. My show is short,
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Speaker 2: but toward the end of the show, I was starting
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Speaker 2: to piece all of this together and I was like,
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Speaker 2: does this not look like a handprint? Sort of? This
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Speaker 2: is was my first impressions, because I'm looking at this
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Speaker 2: as everything's new, right, I just made a comment. I
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Speaker 2: was like, does this not look like a like a handprint? On?
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Speaker 3: It looks like a domestic Yeah, And like you said,
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Speaker 3: the opposite sides of the road, and and there's been
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Speaker 3: you know, when you first we've talked about this a
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Speaker 3: little bit, and when you first mentioned it to me,
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Speaker 3: I was like, I'll look into it. This sounds a
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Speaker 3: little far fetched, but the more I look into it,
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Speaker 3: rider there's there's more to unpack here. Uh you know,
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Speaker 3: she like, there's so much more to unpack here. The
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Speaker 3: way she met her current husband. There's some numerology involved.
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Speaker 3: March twenty second, twenty twenty five, that's three two two.
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Speaker 3: She alleges her children are being poisoned with lies against her.
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Speaker 3: She came out public saying that. And then of course
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Speaker 3: this is a husband of twenty two years which is
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Speaker 3: now estranged, and she's had three events that put her
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Speaker 3: in the hospital. So there's the three and the bus. First,
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Speaker 3: there's multiple there's different pictures of different buses. And then
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Speaker 3: the other thing I thought was really odd is that
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Speaker 3: according to what depending on who you listen to, it's
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Speaker 3: either just a minor bump with a bus, or it's
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Speaker 3: an accident at one hundred and ten kilometers an hour,
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Speaker 3: which would not be a minor bump. Like I said,
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Speaker 3: different pictures of buses. The more I look into this,
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Speaker 3: the more it seems like there is something else going on.
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Speaker 4: Maybe this is just a cover story.
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Speaker 2: Like you mentioned, the bust thing is a cover story,
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Speaker 2: and this is what people are not talking about. They
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Speaker 2: don't really understand this. And because they're looking at it
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Speaker 2: as like, oh, well, she was a Jeffrey Epstein whistleblower.
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Speaker 2: She worked for Jeffrey Epstein for ten years. She died
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Speaker 2: of suicide, she was suicided. Well they don't They don't
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Speaker 2: really know why, they don't really know who. You know,
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Speaker 2: It's kind of like, Okay, well this just happens. Now,
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Speaker 2: It's just a part of our reality. Now people get
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Speaker 2: suicided that are too close to the truth. And she
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Speaker 2: was accusing Prince Andrew was Prince Andrew then settled out
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Speaker 2: of court with her in twenty twenty two for an
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Speaker 2: undisclosed sum of money. Just Lene Maxwell also settled out
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Speaker 2: of court with her for an undisclosed amount of money. So,
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Speaker 2: and that was reported to be tens of millions of
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Speaker 2: dollars that Virginia Giffrey was going to accumulate over the
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Speaker 2: settling out of court with Prince Andrew. Okay, so who
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Speaker 2: would be the one to benefit from her dying? And
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Speaker 2: I can guarantee you all that money hasn't been paid
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Speaker 2: out yet. That money is locked up for a long
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Speaker 2: probably a long time through the court system, like whenever
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Speaker 2: you settle out of qurt or whenever you're paid any
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Speaker 2: kind of money through court. You don't instantly get that money.
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Speaker 2: Sometimes it takes years. Sometimes it takes five to ten years.
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Speaker 2: Especially when you're going after somebody as royal as Prince Andrew.
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Speaker 2: That money gets locked away for a really long time.
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Speaker 2: It's like whenever someone sues a big corporation, sometimes they
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Speaker 2: don't get paid out for like ten years. Okay, if
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Speaker 2: they're involved in an accident or a work related accident,
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Speaker 2: it takes a long time to get that money. So
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Speaker 2: who stands the benefit from her dying. It's her husband, okay,
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Speaker 2: and looking into her husband's background, I haven't done this
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Speaker 2: on my show yet because I'm getting ready to do
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Speaker 2: episode three. But it turns out that she actually met
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Speaker 2: her husband in two thousand and two by going to
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Speaker 2: Thailand because Jeffrey Epstein sent her to Thailand to be
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Speaker 2: a messius in Thailand, and Robert Juffrey is also a
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Speaker 2: martial artist. He's from Australia. He's an Australian martial artist.
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Speaker 2: This just happened to be in Thailand at the time
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Speaker 2: that Virginia was being sent to Thailand to be a
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Speaker 2: massuse by Jeffrey Epstein. Okay, so this whole thing seems
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Speaker 2: like a setup. And then they got married ten days later.
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Speaker 2: Bro after they met, they immediately got married. Okay, so
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Speaker 2: this thing seems like a setup from and this is
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Speaker 2: some kind of thing that Jeffrey Epstein would do, right.
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Speaker 2: He would set up this entire freaking scenario to still
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Speaker 2: have her under his control, even though it's perceived that
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Speaker 2: he would no longer be under her control anymore.
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Speaker 4: He would have his man and they wait.
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Speaker 3: Wait, They're like any alpha predator. You wait until the
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Speaker 3: time is right. And that's not to mention this strange
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Speaker 3: alleged ex tweet on x formerly Twitter, where she said,
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Speaker 3: I'm making it publicly known that, in no way, shape
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Speaker 3: or form, am I suicidal. I've made this known to
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Speaker 3: my therapist and GP. If something happens to me in
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Speaker 3: the sake of my family, do not let this go
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Speaker 3: away and help me to protect them. Too many evil
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Speaker 3: people want to see me quieted. That is pretty telling
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Speaker 3: for her to come out and say that. And what
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Speaker 3: are your thoughts on that tweet?
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Speaker 2: Well, the tweet was from twenty nineteen. I tried to
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Speaker 2: scroll back on her Twitter page or her ex page
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Speaker 2: formerly known as Twitter to actually find the tweet to
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Speaker 2: have my actual eyes on it. I could not get
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Speaker 2: to it. X would not let me scroll further back
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Speaker 2: than twenty twenty, and then I asked Grock. I was like,
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Speaker 2: can you locate this tweet for me so I can
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Speaker 2: see it with my own eyes to verify that it's
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Speaker 2: from her Twitter page, her X page, and it said, no,
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Speaker 2: we can't locate the tweet, but the tweet is real.
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Speaker 2: It was reported on in twenty nineteen after Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 2: had committed died. I don't think he committed suicide. I
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Speaker 2: think that whole thing was a giant sham. But this
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Speaker 2: was publicly talked about on many articles. It sent me
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Speaker 2: all the articles and this article is actually from the
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Speaker 2: New York Post that has this tweet in it. So
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Speaker 2: the tweet is real, but I was not able to
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Speaker 2: physically lay my eyes on it on her Instagram page,
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Speaker 2: I mean her Twitter page. So this tweet is very telling.
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Speaker 2: It is actually is what made me not all with
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Speaker 2: the Mendola effect stuff, but continue to dig into it
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Speaker 2: because when someone makes a statement like this, Ryan, they
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Speaker 2: are one real about it. When when someone says something
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Speaker 2: like this, they mean it, okay, they mean that at
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Speaker 2: no point they are for sure, At no point forward
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Speaker 2: are they going to be suicidal. You would not make
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Speaker 2: a statement like this if there was any doubt in
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Speaker 2: your mind that you would commit suicide in the future. Ever.
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Speaker 2: So that's this tweet, this post from her is really
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Speaker 2: what got me to try and get to the bottom
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Speaker 2: of this because I believe her. I believe her that
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Speaker 2: she was not suicidal. So something else happened, and that's
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Speaker 2: what led me to looking into, Okay, who's this Robert
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Speaker 2: Giffrey guy? And then I started looking into okay, well,
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Speaker 2: were there any instances of abuse between her husband and her?
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Speaker 2: And it turns out that there was, okay, and where's
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Speaker 2: the okay? Here it is. This is from People magazine.
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Speaker 2: This is an article, and this happened less than a
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Speaker 2: week after she was in the hospital for the supposed
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Speaker 2: bus crash. Right, and the title of the article says,
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Speaker 2: Virginia Giffrey alleged's husband has physically abused her for years.
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Speaker 2: I can no longer stay silent. Exclusive Jeffrey a victim
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Speaker 2: sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was involved in a recent car
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Speaker 2: accident and her brother says saved her life, which you
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Speaker 2: know they have their own ideas of what's going on here.
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Speaker 2: But as controversy swirls about the cryptic Instagram message, Jeffrey
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Speaker 2: Epstein's victim, Virginia Giffrey, recently posted about her deteriorating health
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Speaker 2: following a call crash in Australia. She is not coming
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Speaker 2: forward with allegations of abuse against her husband of twenty
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Speaker 2: two years, Robert Giuffrey. Virginia forty one, previously spoke out
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Speaker 2: as a victim of confected sex offender Jeffrey Epstein who
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Speaker 2: died in his prison saw which he didn't die in
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Speaker 2: his prison cell. Okay, he was either murdered or here
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Speaker 2: he wasn't even didn't that wasn't even him, but either
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Speaker 2: way and his associate Giselene Maxwell sixty three, who is
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Speaker 2: currently serving in a prison sentence for sex trafficking in
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Speaker 2: connection with Epstein. Virginia says she has been hesitant to
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Speaker 2: speak public about the alleged blues abuse involving her husband
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Speaker 2: until now, so, in an exclusive statement to people of
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Speaker 2: Virginia said, I was unable. Okay, this is a very
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Speaker 2: telling statement. I was unable to I was able to
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Speaker 2: fight against Giselene Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, who abused me
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Speaker 2: and trafficked me. But I was unable to escape the
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Speaker 2: domestic violence in my marriage until recently, after my husband's
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Speaker 2: latest physical assault, I can no longer stay silent. So
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Speaker 2: just in that statement alone to People Magazine after this
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Speaker 2: bus injury, brings the entire bus injury into question. She
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Speaker 2: is essentially saying in the statement that the injuries that
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Speaker 2: she suffered that she's in the hospital right here with
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Speaker 2: her beat up, bruised eye, did not come from the
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Speaker 2: bus accident. It came from her husband. What other recent abuse,
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Speaker 2: the latest physical assault would she be referring to if
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Speaker 2: it wasn't this one that just happened that she was
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Speaker 2: in the hospital for. Okay. She ended the statement by saying, again,
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Speaker 2: I think everyone for their support and have faith that
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Speaker 2: the justice will prevail. Her statement comes less than a
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Speaker 2: week okay. The statement comes less than a week after
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Speaker 2: Virginia said on Instagram on Sunday, March third, that she
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Speaker 2: was in the hospital and near dead after the car
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Speaker 2: accident that she was riding in on March twenty fourth,
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Speaker 2: was struck by a school bus going more than forty
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Speaker 2: nine miles per hour. And now there's so many discrepancies
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Speaker 2: about how fast the bus was going. Okay, some people
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Speaker 2: say that the bus was going eighty five miles per hour,
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Speaker 2: some people say that the bus was going sixty eight
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Speaker 2: miles per hour, And now this article is seeing that
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Speaker 2: the bus was going forty nine miles per hour, which
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Speaker 2: is it? Okay, nobody knows, all right, it's just one
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Speaker 2: of those This one of those things that they just
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Speaker 2: throw out random numbers in all these articles.
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Speaker 3: And there were some issues on the date too that
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Speaker 3: I noticed when I was looking at the date of
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Speaker 3: the actual bus accident. But yeah, go on, there's all
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Speaker 3: kinds of stuff that's murky, and you know, like you said,
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Speaker 3: there's no police on site at this so it's all
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Speaker 3: basically just hearsay.
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Speaker 2: No police onside. They say that the injuries were minor.
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Speaker 2: Does this look like minor injuries to you right now?
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Speaker 3: It looks like she was ejected from the vehicle, you know,
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Speaker 3: if anything, I've gone It looks like she just got
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Speaker 3: beat up.
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Speaker 4: It looks like she.
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Speaker 3: Went, you know, a few rounds in a boxing ring,
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Speaker 3: is what it looks like to me.
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Speaker 2: Exactly. It looks like she was probably held down and
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Speaker 2: repeatedly beat in the face. That is what it looks like.
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Speaker 2: I've gone into kidney renal failure, she wrote. In the
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Speaker 2: next photo of her lying in the hospital. Bet her
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Speaker 2: face covered in bruises. They've given me four days to live,
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Speaker 2: transferring me to a specialist hospital. So this is this
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Speaker 2: is what she would look like. And they're gonna say
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Speaker 2: in this article that the doctor said that that her
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Speaker 2: bruising looks like it was, you know, congruent with a
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Speaker 2: with a bus accident. But there's literally nothing for her
22:44
Speaker 2: to hit the side of her left face off of
22:47
Speaker 2: in a bus accident because the driver's car is on
22:50
Speaker 2: the right side, is not on the left side. Now,
22:52
Speaker 2: if this was in America, this was in America.
22:56
Speaker 4: This would make sense, This would make sense. Okay, Now
22:59
Speaker 4: this brings.
23:00
Speaker 3: Up a whole other bunch of stuff, which is kidney failure.
23:04
Speaker 3: I mean all of the injuries that you see online
23:08
Speaker 3: or to her basically to her face and.
23:13
Speaker 4: Face.
23:14
Speaker 3: I mean, you don't see anything on her shoulder, you
23:16
Speaker 3: don't see anything. It's all pretty much her face. So
23:20
Speaker 3: of course one has to ask, how does that have
23:22
Speaker 3: anything to do with kidney failure? And I believe you
23:26
Speaker 3: had mentioned like maybe we have a potential scenario of
23:30
Speaker 3: some either accidental poisoning or systematic slow poisoning, which is
23:35
Speaker 3: something that in certain covert operations is done quite often.
23:42
Speaker 2: Yes, kidney failure is synonymous with being poisoned. It is
23:46
Speaker 2: also synonymous with having internal bleeding, being beat the shit
23:50
Speaker 2: out of, having your body beat the shit out of
23:52
Speaker 2: now later on in this article, and it's also drug
23:55
Speaker 2: use and alcoholic. Being an alcoholic can result in kidney
23:59
Speaker 2: failure as well, but that's over a long period of time.
24:03
Speaker 2: But it also states in this article as we read
24:05
Speaker 2: on that she had been suffering abuse from her her
24:10
Speaker 2: husband had been beating her for a really long time.
24:14
Speaker 3: Like yeah, and this does not seem really you would
24:17
Speaker 3: think that these attacks would become mainstream knowledge, but they're not.
24:26
Speaker 3: Have you noticed that.
24:27
Speaker 2: Too, Literally, no one has talked about this. I don't
24:30
Speaker 2: even think if anyone knows about this article. Now, there's
24:32
Speaker 2: a few people that have commented on my videos on YouTube,
24:36
Speaker 2: this titled Virginia Giuffrey Mandela Effect Part one and Part two.
24:40
Speaker 2: I'm getting ready to do part three, which is going
24:43
Speaker 2: to cover some of the things that we're covering in
24:45
Speaker 2: this discussion here. But that someone else had kind of
24:51
Speaker 2: discovered this, but I didn't listen to their show. I
24:53
Speaker 2: had put this all together on my own just from
24:56
Speaker 2: doing research. So if someone else has also come to
25:00
Speaker 2: this conclusion, it is not surprising. I mean, we all
25:02
Speaker 2: have access to the information. It's just how deep do
25:04
Speaker 2: you want to go into it? But they said that
25:07
Speaker 2: Sean Attwood had done a show on it and he
25:09
Speaker 2: had come to the same conclusion. So I've been I
25:13
Speaker 2: don't know, I've been on Seawann Attwood show before, but
25:15
Speaker 2: I don't listen to a show. I don't even know
25:17
Speaker 2: where to listen to his show. So all this comes
25:21
Speaker 2: from my own research. But yeah, many people doesn't even
25:25
Speaker 2: know about this article. Does not know about the abuse
25:28
Speaker 2: that she was suffering at the hands of her husband,
25:30
Speaker 2: and this one, there was another there was another report
25:36
Speaker 2: of There was another police report filed of abuse that
25:40
Speaker 2: she's suffered by her husband, which a spokesperson for Virginia
25:45
Speaker 2: confirms that Virginia reported on January ninth, twenty twenty five,
25:49
Speaker 2: an assault in Western Australia to police, who did not
25:54
Speaker 2: charge Robert for any crime. People has been able to
25:58
Speaker 2: obtain the incident report. Robert did not respond to People's
26:02
Speaker 2: multiple calls and texts for comment. His attorney told People
26:05
Speaker 2: in an email. Unfortunately, as the issues are raised before
26:08
Speaker 2: the courts in Australia, both he and anyone associated with
26:11
Speaker 2: the case, including mister Frey of her agents, are permitted
26:16
Speaker 2: prohibited from discussing and utilizing the media. Therefore there is
26:20
Speaker 2: no comment. Okay, So speaking exclusively with people, Virginia's brother
26:26
Speaker 2: Sky Roberts and his wife Amanda, both thirty six, say Virginia,
26:29
Speaker 2: who lives in Australia, as making allegations because of the
26:32
Speaker 2: severity of her injuries. Now this comes from the January
26:36
Speaker 2: ninth case. I think that the last incident that they had,
26:42
Speaker 2: she almost died. This is Amanda's brother's wife saying this.
26:47
Speaker 2: Amanda says about the alleged January ninth beating, as we
26:51
Speaker 2: had to speak that truth with her on the phone,
26:54
Speaker 2: and I think she had acknowledged. She had acknowledged that
26:58
Speaker 2: if she had had one more instance with him, she
27:02
Speaker 2: wasn't making it out of there. Wha Oh if that
27:07
Speaker 2: isn't circumstantial evidence enough to warrant an investigation on Robert Guffrey,
27:14
Speaker 2: I don't know what.
27:15
Speaker 3: Is Yeah, And I was shocked to find out about
27:20
Speaker 3: how he met her through this same modeling.
27:25
Speaker 4: Grapevine, I guess.
27:28
Speaker 3: And this was shocking to me because you would think
27:31
Speaker 3: that this would be somebody that would not have any
27:34
Speaker 3: ties to that.
27:38
Speaker 2: You would think, but I mean, this article goes on.
27:41
Speaker 2: So Sky and Amanda note that they didn't know whether
27:45
Speaker 2: Virginia's medical issues calls by the crash or complications from
27:50
Speaker 2: a recent beating she allegedly suffered at the hands of
27:54
Speaker 2: her husband.
27:56
Speaker 4: Unbelievable.
27:57
Speaker 2: So they're telling you right here in this people article,
28:01
Speaker 2: someone need we need to save this article because I've
28:06
Speaker 2: some of the stuff is going to start disappearing. They're
28:07
Speaker 2: going to start changing things about this. They're going to
28:10
Speaker 2: start going in and editing these articles. It's why it's
28:13
Speaker 2: important for us to get this out now. So it's
28:16
Speaker 2: like cemented in like the Internet, because I've already tried
28:20
Speaker 2: to look up a bunch of things about Robert Giuffrey
28:25
Speaker 2: and all of the links are bad day links, And
28:31
Speaker 2: there are also links to other things that isn't even related,
28:35
Speaker 2: Like I tried to pull up one that was talking
28:37
Speaker 2: about Robert Giuffrey's background and how they met Virginia and
28:42
Speaker 2: Thailand and it said the title of it on the link,
28:46
Speaker 2: and then it was the whole article was about soccer. Okay,
28:51
Speaker 2: so they're what, yeah, they're starting to change any information.
28:56
Speaker 2: They're getting rid of the links, they're they're getting rid
28:59
Speaker 2: of all this stuff surrounding this guy. Okay.
29:02
Speaker 3: You know, people's wild because a lot of the girls,
29:06
Speaker 3: women that were trying to escape Epstein and the whole
29:12
Speaker 3: honeypot and you know, these this octopus of control when
29:16
Speaker 3: it came to this group that was being human trafficked.
29:21
Speaker 3: Virginia and other girls said that no matter how many
29:26
Speaker 3: times they ran away, you know, whether they leave their
29:29
Speaker 3: phones behind their devices, they would just jump and leave
29:33
Speaker 3: the country. That that that they believed Epstein was an
29:39
Speaker 3: intelligence asset because no matter where they went, no matter
29:42
Speaker 3: how they went about it, he would always know where
29:46
Speaker 3: they were and kind of lure them back into the honeypot.
29:50
Speaker 3: And what you said, this, this whole scenario reeks of
29:56
Speaker 3: intelligence because this is exactly how a guy or or
30:02
Speaker 3: anybody that is savvy with public relations would work this.
30:06
Speaker 3: They would wait until it's no longer prevalent in the mainstream.
30:11
Speaker 3: They would wait for things to kind of die down.
30:14
Speaker 3: Nobody cares anymore and then boom, literally thrown.
30:17
Speaker 4: Under the bus. And these dates are are.
30:22
Speaker 3: Fascinating too, because Giffrey said in a post on March
30:27
Speaker 3: thirtieth that her car had been hit by a bus.
30:30
Speaker 3: But then when you read other reports through other media outlets,
30:34
Speaker 3: they say that the car hit the bus, So nothing
30:37
Speaker 3: makes any sense. And like you said, the speeds are
30:40
Speaker 3: all different, the dates are different, the pictures of the
30:44
Speaker 3: actual bus, or maybe they're just alleged pictures. I don't
30:47
Speaker 3: know if people are just adding stuff in where you know,
30:51
Speaker 3: they're saying it involved a school bus, others are saying
30:54
Speaker 3: it was more like a tourist bus, and you know,
30:57
Speaker 3: you would think that somebody else would have add some injury, right.
31:02
Speaker 2: And also the kids on the bus. See the police.
31:06
Speaker 2: The Australian Police said in that video that I was
31:09
Speaker 2: trying to pull up that wouldn't play the sound. The
31:11
Speaker 2: police said that there was nobody aboard the bus, so
31:13
Speaker 2: it was only the driver of the bus. But all
31:16
Speaker 2: the other articles say that there were kids on the bus,
31:22
Speaker 2: that there were multiple kids on the bus. So if
31:24
Speaker 2: you slam into a car, Ryan going sixty eight miles
31:28
Speaker 2: per hour, sixty eight miles per hour seems to be
31:31
Speaker 2: what most of the articles site is.
31:35
Speaker 4: Sixty kind of be average because there's higher and lower.
31:38
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, so if you slam into a car sixty
31:41
Speaker 2: eight miles per hour with people on the bus, how
31:46
Speaker 2: did no one get injured? You know how fast sixty
31:50
Speaker 2: eight miles pro hitting anything that solid like a car
31:56
Speaker 2: or a post or some people are going to get
31:58
Speaker 2: beat up. There's going to be injuries. Okay, But this
32:04
Speaker 2: injury with her is is a cover story because her
32:10
Speaker 2: husband beat her, and her husband is threatening her as
32:13
Speaker 2: she says anything about it, that she is never going
32:16
Speaker 2: to see the kids again. No, that is circumstantial evidence,
32:18
Speaker 2: but that is just what I think is going on.
32:21
Speaker 2: That's what a narcissistic woman beat her domestic violence abuser
32:27
Speaker 2: would do. And this article also says that no one,
32:32
Speaker 2: no one ever said her liver issues and kidney failure
32:36
Speaker 2: were from the bus accident.
32:38
Speaker 3: Okay, that's huge, that's huge because if this is some
32:46
Speaker 3: kind of again back to an intelligence asset, a spy,
32:49
Speaker 3: anything MASAD related, whatever you want to call it, we
32:53
Speaker 3: don't know. The truth is, we don't know who Epstein's
32:56
Speaker 3: controllers were. We just know that he very much appeared
32:59
Speaker 3: to be a creation of some sort of brain trust.
33:05
Speaker 3: And the reason I say that is we have like
33:08
Speaker 3: very intelligent people like Eric Weinstein, who actually met the
33:11
Speaker 3: guy and he said, this guy looked like, you know,
33:14
Speaker 3: it was too good to be true. It was all
33:17
Speaker 3: a facade. And then lo and behold, after it all
33:20
Speaker 3: goes down when they delve into Epstein's finances, even though
33:26
Speaker 3: he's got a private island, even though he has houses
33:29
Speaker 3: in all the most expensive cities on the planet, ranch
33:33
Speaker 3: as you name it, there's barely enough money in there
33:38
Speaker 3: to keep any one of those assets going for an
33:41
Speaker 3: entire year. So that tells me that he's got some
33:45
Speaker 3: sort of slush fund that's being injected with cash whenever
33:48
Speaker 3: he needs it to show this billionaire lifestyle when very.
33:52
Speaker 4: Much he seems to be.
33:56
Speaker 3: A construct, right, like some kind of intelligence construct, exactly
34:01
Speaker 3: like you would find at the head of an intelligence
34:05
Speaker 3: asset honeypots scenario, and he played the role impeccably.
34:10
Speaker 4: I think.
34:14
Speaker 2: So Amanda is speaking here and she's saying about the
34:17
Speaker 2: damage to Virginia's organs, Sky said that I think she
34:23
Speaker 2: says that it's from she thinks that it's from years
34:27
Speaker 2: of alleged abuse.
34:29
Speaker 4: Okay, So and it doesn't say what kind of abuse, right,
34:34
Speaker 4: You got.
34:34
Speaker 2: To think that she's been allegedly being abused for over
34:39
Speaker 2: ten years. Anybody's body is going to take a toll
34:45
Speaker 2: over the course of time.
34:46
Speaker 3: This is huge, writer, because you know all the key
34:50
Speaker 3: elements here abused for over ten years. You have to
34:55
Speaker 3: ask yourself what kind of abuse is this? Poisoning? Is
34:58
Speaker 3: this just repeated which could definitely lead to you know,
35:02
Speaker 3: kidney and liver failure?
35:04
Speaker 4: Is this?
35:05
Speaker 2: You know?
35:06
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't even want to go to the
35:07
Speaker 3: other places my mind is thinking. But you know, anyone's
35:10
Speaker 3: body taking that toll over the course of time. This
35:17
Speaker 3: this is wild man like these And this is Amanda
35:21
Speaker 3: is family right.
35:23
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is Virginia's brother's wife, so it would be
35:28
Speaker 2: her sister in law. And uh that's the and that's
35:34
Speaker 2: the whole thing to this too. This is why I
35:36
Speaker 2: think that the whole her meeting her husband Robert Giffrey
35:41
Speaker 2: in Thailand was a complete setup by Jeffrey Epstein because
35:46
Speaker 2: she's essentially being abused by Jeffrey Epstein. She worked for
35:48
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein for ten years. Okay, so she's abused by
35:51
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. She's abused by all of these, uh, all
35:55
Speaker 2: the royalty and all the politicians, Prince Andrew, all Thatselene Maxwell.
36:00
Speaker 2: And then she gets out of that scenario, and then
36:03
Speaker 2: she gets into another scenario that's almost identically the same,
36:06
Speaker 2: where she's being beaten all the time, right, maybe.
36:10
Speaker 3: Almost as if she's just getting like she has a handler,
36:13
Speaker 3: somebody to control her.
36:15
Speaker 2: That's right, that's what it seems like. That's what it
36:18
Speaker 2: feels like. And again I don't have any proof of that,
36:20
Speaker 2: but I mean, other than this article saying that she's
36:22
Speaker 2: been abused for over ten freaking years by her husband,
36:28
Speaker 2: and the fact no investigation has been brought against this guy.
36:31
Speaker 2: And this is the other one right here, So this
36:34
Speaker 2: is the other event. Okay, So, during a trip to
36:36
Speaker 2: celebrate one of the children's birthdays in January, Robert allegedly
36:40
Speaker 2: beat Virginia so severely that she was left with a
36:45
Speaker 2: crack septum and a profoliated eye, among other injuries. Now,
36:52
Speaker 2: if you just scrolled up a little bit, we just
36:53
Speaker 2: said that Amanda watch Is Virginia's husband's wife, said that
37:00
Speaker 2: Virginia felt like that she was going to die in
37:03
Speaker 2: this incident in January, okay, right, they say that she
37:08
Speaker 2: was transported to the hospital for her injuries.
37:11
Speaker 3: The spokeswoman sayes, this is big, the transport thing, because
37:16
Speaker 3: in my investigation and I believe in what you found.
37:19
Speaker 3: Both the Western Australia Police and Ambulance Services told the
37:23
Speaker 3: BBC they had no records of an accident happening in
37:31
Speaker 3: recent weeks, and the police later specified that they had
37:34
Speaker 3: located records of a quote unquote minor crash. So how
37:39
Speaker 3: was she transported to the hospital.
37:41
Speaker 2: Well, this is a different case. This is from January eighth.
37:46
Speaker 2: This is an old one. This is the old one
37:48
Speaker 2: where Robert Juffrey had.
37:52
Speaker 3: Beaten beaten her within an inch of her life.
37:55
Speaker 2: Yes, previously earlier in the year, So January eighth of
37:59
Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. If this happened and she was transported
38:02
Speaker 2: to the there was a police report filed and a
38:06
Speaker 2: deviated septim in a profilated eye looks would look like this, Okay,
38:18
Speaker 2: it would look like this, just you know, five six,
38:21
Speaker 2: seven months later. Okay, So when you so this case
38:28
Speaker 2: of her this other case, the charge. No charges were
38:34
Speaker 2: ever brought to Robert for this beating now she was
38:38
Speaker 2: transported to the hospital. She filed a police report, but
38:41
Speaker 2: no charges were ever brought to her and to the
38:44
Speaker 2: family shock. They say. Robert quickly filed a family violence
38:50
Speaker 2: restraining order against her, alleging that she had become violent
38:54
Speaker 2: with him.
38:56
Speaker 4: Yeah, this was shocking.
38:57
Speaker 3: And then he tried to catch her because she texted
39:01
Speaker 3: about the kids or something, violating the restraining order.
39:04
Speaker 4: I mean, typical power play.
39:07
Speaker 2: He's setting up his defense right here, okay, because he
39:11
Speaker 2: knows that he beat the shit out of her. He
39:14
Speaker 2: knows that she's going to go to the police, she's
39:16
Speaker 2: being transported to the hospital. How do you get out
39:20
Speaker 2: of this? Oh well, you flip out, You gaslight them,
39:22
Speaker 2: You gaslight the police, you gaslight the public court system,
39:26
Speaker 2: and the believing that she was the one that was
39:27
Speaker 2: abusive toward him. And this this filing, this uh, this
39:32
Speaker 2: family violence restraining order against Virginia is what gave him
39:39
Speaker 2: the kids? What is what gave him custody of.
39:42
Speaker 3: The kids, just that little violation and that's through a
39:48
Speaker 3: phone text.
39:49
Speaker 4: It wasn't even a call in this unbelievable.
39:54
Speaker 3: Now that the thing that's really fascinating about this is,
39:58
Speaker 3: you know, we have somebody who's very much mk al
40:02
Speaker 3: trait or at least Stockholm syndrome. Right, She's used to
40:05
Speaker 3: being in these positions were powerful manner controlling her. The
40:09
Speaker 3: same is true allegedly and apparently with these events with
40:14
Speaker 3: her husband or you know who who she met literally
40:20
Speaker 3: under some interesting circumstances.
40:22
Speaker 4: Do you think that.
40:25
Speaker 3: You know this is all tied together and and it
40:29
Speaker 3: remains unclear?
40:31
Speaker 4: You know so much?
40:32
Speaker 3: I think I think you found the smoking gun, which
40:34
Speaker 3: is this bus crash, you know, whether it even occurred
40:39
Speaker 3: or at least the information revolving around it. Is that
40:42
Speaker 3: going to be the cord that you kind of pull
40:44
Speaker 3: and it just unravels the whole thing.
40:47
Speaker 2: That's what happened with me. That's exactly what happened with me.
40:50
Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, we got to first make
40:52
Speaker 2: sense of this bus accident. Nonsense. There's too many varying reports.
40:56
Speaker 2: The police are saying one thing, other people are saying
40:58
Speaker 2: one thing, Virginia is saying one thing. The articles that
41:02
Speaker 2: are written about it as seeing something completely different. So
41:06
Speaker 2: then I just started digging looking through all the articles
41:08
Speaker 2: of the bus crash everything, and I was trying to
41:11
Speaker 2: put two and two together. I'm like, well, something's not
41:14
Speaker 2: making sense here, and that's when I looked at this
41:17
Speaker 2: photo again and I was like, this does not seem
41:23
Speaker 2: like it came from a bus accident. Something more had
41:28
Speaker 2: to happen here for her to get these injuries, because
41:30
Speaker 2: it literally looks like she was held down and she
41:32
Speaker 2: was repeatedly beat in the face. And that is congruent
41:36
Speaker 2: with the amount of time that lapsed in between the
41:39
Speaker 2: bus accident happening March twenty fourth and her being in
41:41
Speaker 2: the hospital. It was six days later, so you have
41:45
Speaker 2: a six day span of her not being in the
41:50
Speaker 2: hospital from the time of the accident to the hospital.
41:52
Speaker 2: So if this happened during the accident and she looks
41:54
Speaker 2: like this, why would she not have immediately gone to
41:57
Speaker 2: the hospital unless this and come from the bus accident.
42:03
Speaker 2: Her being beat up like this did not come from
42:05
Speaker 2: the bus accident. She had the bus accident, which was
42:08
Speaker 2: completely came out of nowhere. Then she gets beat the
42:12
Speaker 2: shit out of by her husband, she gets these marks
42:16
Speaker 2: on her face or I blocking just like what he
42:19
Speaker 2: did to her January eighth of twenty twenty five earlier,
42:24
Speaker 2: and then he got away with that. There was no
42:25
Speaker 2: charges brought to him, and I'm sure that he would
42:28
Speaker 2: have been like, if you go, if you go to
42:32
Speaker 2: the police, or if you go to the hospital and
42:34
Speaker 2: you tell them that I did this to you, then
42:36
Speaker 2: you're never going to see your kids again. I'm going
42:38
Speaker 2: to kill you or whatever. Right, I'm going to kill you.
42:41
Speaker 2: I'm going to kill you. Speculation, right, speculation, I'm going
42:46
Speaker 2: to kill you if you go to the police. Because
42:48
Speaker 2: this is something that a narcissistic woman beat her domestic
42:51
Speaker 2: of violence abuser would say, Okay, all the cases that
42:56
Speaker 2: this is the type of terminology and the type of
42:59
Speaker 2: threatening behave. If you're that, they would use, right, I'm
43:03
Speaker 2: gonna You're never gonna see the kids again.
43:05
Speaker 4: I'm going to kill you if you tell the police.
43:07
Speaker 2: So she went to the hospital and used the excuse
43:11
Speaker 2: that this that she got these injuries from the bus accident,
43:19
Speaker 2: when it was really her husband was the one that
43:22
Speaker 2: calls these injuries and we have the proof of that. Yeah,
43:27
Speaker 2: in this article by People where she basically said that
43:31
Speaker 2: the most recent she couldn't escape her husband's abuse until recently.
43:38
Speaker 2: This most recent uh domestic violence abuse, which the most
43:43
Speaker 2: recent one would be the one where she was in
43:45
Speaker 2: the hospital, claiming that it came from the bus accident.
43:49
Speaker 3: And you know, back back to the weird all of
43:53
Speaker 3: this is very very strange, the the timelines.
44:00
Speaker 4: And how this took place.
44:02
Speaker 3: The when you look at her basically saying that, you know,
44:07
Speaker 3: her kids were being poisoned against her. This was in
44:10
Speaker 3: March of March twenty second, and then I was looking
44:15
Speaker 3: up the Prince Andrew undisclosed amount of money and the
44:21
Speaker 3: out of court settlement, and sure enough that was reached
44:26
Speaker 3: in February of twenty twenty two. Payment in March of
44:29
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, which is again three two two, And
44:33
Speaker 3: now people are saying that that they say it's an
44:38
Speaker 3: undisclosed amount, but people are coming forward with amounts which
44:42
Speaker 3: make me wonder something you and I had talked about,
44:46
Speaker 3: what are the odds that this was a staggered payment? Right,
44:52
Speaker 3: this out of court settlement, a staggered payment in March
44:57
Speaker 3: of twenty twenty two. And with amounts this large, how
45:03
Speaker 3: long are the are you know, the cycles of payment?
45:08
Speaker 3: It could be you know, five million the first two
45:12
Speaker 3: years or whatever, five years and then another five and
45:15
Speaker 3: then so even though they reached an out of court
45:19
Speaker 3: settlement and This was alluded to and shared via all
45:25
Speaker 3: kinds of news sources March twenty twenty two and announced,
45:30
Speaker 3: how do we know if it got paid or what
45:32
Speaker 3: if there were staggered.
45:33
Speaker 4: Payments or we don't know?
45:36
Speaker 3: And this is another huge thing, like where's the money
45:38
Speaker 3: right and it would probably go to her husband.
45:43
Speaker 2: That would be the mean motivation, and it would also
45:47
Speaker 2: be the motivation from the people that she could be
45:53
Speaker 2: blowing the whistle on all the because it just doesn't
45:57
Speaker 2: stop at Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein. She was involved
46:02
Speaker 2: with many more people. I mean, there's a Project Veritas
46:07
Speaker 2: video of Amy was there Amy Bolshevik or Amy I
46:16
Speaker 2: can't remember her last name, but Project Veritas got this
46:21
Speaker 2: this video of her on a hot mic for ABC
46:24
Speaker 2: News and she's saying that they had all this information
46:28
Speaker 2: two years before it all that came out, but ABC
46:30
Speaker 2: News shut it down and they had to interview with Virginia.
46:34
Speaker 2: The Virginia had all the evidence, she had all the
46:36
Speaker 2: pictures Bill Clinton was implicated. She had all the dirt
46:40
Speaker 2: on Bill Clinton, so she she had She worked for
46:44
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein for ten years. You think that it was
46:46
Speaker 2: just Prince Andrew and Jeffrey Epstein that she was being
46:50
Speaker 2: trafficked to. No, she was being trafficked to several other people,
46:53
Speaker 2: so she had the dirt on everyone. So it's not
46:56
Speaker 2: it's like a win win, not only for Virginia's husband,
47:02
Speaker 2: but it's also a win for any of the people
47:06
Speaker 2: that were freaking out about what she was going to
47:10
Speaker 2: do next.
47:11
Speaker 3: Who's going this is huge because when she was asked
47:14
Speaker 3: about other people, because off the record, she was asked
47:17
Speaker 3: about other people, and on the record too, but you know,
47:20
Speaker 3: she was asked about the lawyer Alan Dersuwitz, and.
47:23
Speaker 4: She said, yeah, they trafficked me to him.
47:26
Speaker 3: And I've heard some allegations online that it may have
47:30
Speaker 3: been in the hundreds of people. So, like you said,
47:34
Speaker 3: there's there's more than just one or two people that
47:37
Speaker 3: would benefit from having her uh not around and and
47:44
Speaker 3: and I mean that list. We don't know how big
47:46
Speaker 3: that list is because it's all still one redacted and
47:51
Speaker 3: we don't have that list.
47:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, apparently right now, Prince Andrew and his wife are
47:59
Speaker 2: like celebrating the fact that she's dead like that. You know,
48:04
Speaker 2: Andrew's wife is like tweeting and saying that that's the
48:07
Speaker 2: karma that you get for making up allegations.
48:10
Speaker 3: Wow, this is and something strange is exactly what you've
48:16
Speaker 3: talked about this this car accident and family members saying
48:20
Speaker 3: that this car accident, bus accident, whatever you want to
48:22
Speaker 3: call it, may have potentially saved her life in that
48:26
Speaker 3: she had to go to the hospital, in that she
48:28
Speaker 3: was not in a place where her husband could you know, uh,
48:34
Speaker 3: you know, lay the SmackDown is kind of what I
48:36
Speaker 3: got from that, is that how you read into that.
48:38
Speaker 2: Absolutely that's but they were too little, too late and
48:43
Speaker 2: realized that that wasn't the case now because she was dead.
48:47
Speaker 2: I mean, an entire investigation used to be opened up
48:49
Speaker 2: on this guy, this Robert Giuffrey guy, and it needs
48:52
Speaker 2: to be none now. They need to do it now,
48:54
Speaker 2: and they don't need to listen to any of his
48:56
Speaker 2: bullshit or take it even taking the consideration the fraudulent
49:01
Speaker 2: claims that he has made against her while filing the
49:04
Speaker 2: restraining order, because there's obviously fraudulenty he did it as
49:08
Speaker 2: a defense, and they'd also don't need to take into
49:10
Speaker 2: consideration that he's high custody of the kids either. They
49:13
Speaker 2: need to see through all of that nonsense garbage, just
49:17
Speaker 2: read this freaking People magazine article, and then they'll at
49:20
Speaker 2: least have circumstantial evidence to warrant an investigation and hopefully
49:25
Speaker 2: find more because if not, Ryan, if they don't do this,
49:30
Speaker 2: this is a really big deal. This is a huge deal.
49:33
Speaker 2: If they don't do this in ten years, I'm telling
49:37
Speaker 2: you right now, or maybe even sooner, because how things,
49:40
Speaker 2: you know, the way the streaming services and stuff work,
49:44
Speaker 2: and they just keep pumping out information and stuff and
49:47
Speaker 2: doing documentaries, and five to ten years, this is going
49:51
Speaker 2: to be a Netflix documentary. Okay, this whole scenario with Virginia,
49:58
Speaker 2: everything that we've covered here today is going to be
50:02
Speaker 2: in a Netflix documentary where nothing is going to be
50:05
Speaker 2: able to be done about this because so much time
50:08
Speaker 2: has lapsed in between the investigation and them actually doing
50:11
Speaker 2: anything about it. And it's going to be all circumstances.
50:13
Speaker 2: It's going to be what if scenarios, right, just like
50:16
Speaker 2: they do now with all of the true crime documentaries.
50:20
Speaker 2: Oh well, what if it was this? Oh what if
50:23
Speaker 2: it was that? What if he was the one that
50:24
Speaker 2: killed him? What if she didn't really commit suicide? Maybe
50:27
Speaker 2: it was somebody else, Maybe we should have investigated it
50:30
Speaker 2: And then you have all the police reporters on there
50:32
Speaker 2: saying that they essentially screwed up, but there's nothing that
50:34
Speaker 2: they can do about it now because it's already over.
50:38
Speaker 2: That's what's going to happen with this case. That's what
50:42
Speaker 2: it's going to be if there's not an immediate investigation,
50:47
Speaker 2: a thorough immediate investigation on Robert Giuffrey, Virginia Giuphray's husband
50:54
Speaker 2: right now.
50:55
Speaker 4: Man.
50:56
Speaker 3: And you know, I hate to follow the money, but
50:59
Speaker 3: I'm going to whenever you have royal involvement. I dug
51:04
Speaker 3: pretty deep into the settlement amount. It's estimated. You know,
51:08
Speaker 3: there's different beliefs, but it's estimated to be around twelve
51:12
Speaker 3: million dollars and many believe, most believe. While the exact
51:18
Speaker 3: figures were not released, it was widely reported by a
51:23
Speaker 3: variety of UK Australian different news sources. Widely reported that
51:27
Speaker 3: the settlement included split payments, which is huge.
51:32
Speaker 4: And keep in mind, let's assume that it's twelve million.
51:37
Speaker 3: The Duke of York, Prince Andrew allegedly receives anywhere from
51:47
Speaker 3: five to ten million pounds a year and this is just.
51:53
Speaker 4: What he's given.
51:54
Speaker 3: This is not counting other stuff, and so you've got
51:59
Speaker 3: to figure if if they're gonna do a split payment system.
52:03
Speaker 3: You know, some are saying it was twelve million, others
52:06
Speaker 3: are saying it was sixteen point three million. Chances are
52:09
Speaker 3: it's going to be something along the lines of three
52:10
Speaker 3: to four million every you know, four years or so
52:15
Speaker 3: five years. And if you do the math like we
52:19
Speaker 3: were discussing, I mean not that the money is always
52:22
Speaker 3: you know, following the money is not always the correct bet,
52:26
Speaker 3: but I think in a case like this, that's another
52:30
Speaker 3: determining factor.
52:31
Speaker 4: You know, hey, there's a money issue here too.
52:36
Speaker 2: Yes, And that would be the big driving force for
52:40
Speaker 2: Robert Giuffrey to kill Virginia is the money. And then
52:46
Speaker 2: it also serves for all the elites and Prince Andrew
52:50
Speaker 2: so that he doesn't have to worry about Virginia anymore.
52:53
Speaker 2: It keeps her from speaking out on anybody else in
52:56
Speaker 2: the future. And it's a two with one stone type
53:01
Speaker 2: of scenario. And I one believe that that is exactly
53:07
Speaker 2: what happened. He beat the shit out of her, she
53:12
Speaker 2: went to the hospital. She used a bus crash us
53:14
Speaker 2: cover a cover story. So because I'm sure that he
53:17
Speaker 2: threatened her, he was.
53:19
Speaker 4: Like yeah, yeah, yeah.
53:22
Speaker 2: If you tell the police that the you know, you're
53:26
Speaker 2: you're bruising and your injuries came from me, then you're
53:29
Speaker 2: never going to see the kids again, or I'm going
53:30
Speaker 2: to kill you. And that's why she gets to the hospital.
53:33
Speaker 2: She blames it on the bus accident. That's why people
53:35
Speaker 2: think that the bus accident thing was so fraudulent because
53:38
Speaker 2: something wasn't adding up with it. But it wasn't. For
53:41
Speaker 2: the reason that they thought that it was for is
53:43
Speaker 2: because her husband beat the shit out of her, and
53:45
Speaker 2: then he might have said, oh, well, I'm going to
53:47
Speaker 2: kill you, okay. So then that's why she puts in
53:51
Speaker 2: the Instagram post that she has three to four days
53:54
Speaker 2: to live because she one percent believes that he's going
53:59
Speaker 2: to kill her, okay. So then she gets out of
54:04
Speaker 2: the hospital, she makes these statements to People magazine and
54:07
Speaker 2: they have the backup of this of him being abusive
54:11
Speaker 2: towards her and beating her from earlier in the year.
54:15
Speaker 2: There is a police report filed where she looked almost
54:18
Speaker 2: identical based off of the description of what happened to
54:21
Speaker 2: her in the report, where she looked identical to the
54:24
Speaker 2: way that she just looked a week ago when she
54:28
Speaker 2: was in the hospital. Okay, so she makes these statements,
54:32
Speaker 2: she tells People magazine, Hey, the most recent injury, the
54:36
Speaker 2: most recent abuse from my husband, you know, was what
54:41
Speaker 2: made me completely you know, separate, separate from him. And
54:46
Speaker 2: then she goes back to her farmhouse in Australia. Then
54:51
Speaker 2: he kills her. I mean, the person that is verifiably
54:57
Speaker 2: abusing you, which we have that verifiable av dance from
55:00
Speaker 2: the police report on January eighth from whenever he beat her,
55:05
Speaker 2: she went to the hospital, she filed the police report.
55:08
Speaker 2: No charges were brought against Robert Giffrey. He did the opposite.
55:13
Speaker 2: He turned around and filed a restraining order, a family
55:16
Speaker 2: restraining order against her to gaslight her, to create his
55:21
Speaker 2: defense for whenever it ultimately goes down and he ultimately
55:26
Speaker 2: kills her. So then everything's iron clad.
55:30
Speaker 4: And iron clad.
55:31
Speaker 2: Yeah, they have the paperwork, the restraining order of paperwork.
55:35
Speaker 2: He has the kids. No one's going to suspect that
55:38
Speaker 2: it was him that actually killed her.
55:41
Speaker 4: Almost as if it was pre planned.
55:43
Speaker 2: It was pre planned. And the final blow, dude, the
55:48
Speaker 2: final blow is that he made it look like a suicide.
55:54
Speaker 2: And okay, just brings us what they made Jeffrey Epstein
55:57
Speaker 2: looked like was a suicide. Okay, he's hitting her with
56:01
Speaker 2: the Britta double bro. He's hitting here with a double double.
56:04
Speaker 2: He's like, screw you, Like.
56:09
Speaker 4: Well, there's no investigation.
56:11
Speaker 2: I'm gonna make it look like you killed yourself, just
56:15
Speaker 2: like your abuser. They made your abuser for ten years.
56:19
Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein looked like he killed himself.
56:22
Speaker 4: Mm hm.
56:23
Speaker 2: That's the ultimate middle finger.
56:26
Speaker 4: And I'm with you. I don't.
56:27
Speaker 3: I don't believe he did just I don't believe Epstein anyway.
56:32
Speaker 3: That's another that's another deal. I don't think that he
56:36
Speaker 3: did that as well. And this is huge because something
56:40
Speaker 3: they call suicide programming is part of the sexual ritual
56:44
Speaker 3: abuse fragmentation that has done psychologically like speaking of Stockholm
56:49
Speaker 3: syndrome or MK ultra like fragmentation SRA fragmentation. This is
56:56
Speaker 3: part of the programming. So even if she did, it's
56:59
Speaker 3: still well potentially likely that these people had a hand
57:04
Speaker 3: in it. But I believe all too often it's usually
57:08
Speaker 3: murder disguised as suicide.
57:14
Speaker 2: Regardless if he actually murdered her or not, he was
57:20
Speaker 2: involved and there needs to be an immediate investigation on him.
57:27
Speaker 2: Or this thing is going to become a mystery thing
57:32
Speaker 2: where it's like never going to be solved and she's
57:35
Speaker 2: never going to get justice. And she tells us in
57:39
Speaker 2: her tweet, right, I'm making a publicly known that in
57:43
Speaker 2: no way, shape or form am I suicidal. I've made
57:46
Speaker 2: this known to my therapist, and am I gp if
57:49
Speaker 2: something happens to me in the sake of my family,
57:52
Speaker 2: do not let this go away.
57:55
Speaker 4: Help.
57:56
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58:00
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58:04
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58:07
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58:17
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for having me on, Ryan. I hope
58:20
Speaker 2: that everything made sense, and I hope I made a
58:22
Speaker 2: really good case for what I believe happened. And it
58:27
Speaker 2: makes a lot of sense to me. And I always
58:29
Speaker 2: follow my intuition. And nine times out of ten, whenever
58:33
Speaker 2: there's domestic violence that has been reported, okay, this has
58:40
Speaker 2: been reported. This was a police report from January eighth,
58:43
Speaker 2: where this is verified that he beat the shit out
58:47
Speaker 2: of her almost the inch of her life, okay. And
58:50
Speaker 2: then when that person turns up dead, the number one suspect,
58:55
Speaker 2: regardless if it looks like a suicide or not, the
58:59
Speaker 2: suspect should be the abusive, narcissistic woman beat her husband. Okay.
59:08
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