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MINI SCROLL: Brooklyn Beckham speaks out against family, Unwell Network turbulence + Patrick Starrr's skincare move · Mini Scroll

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  first story for today. The story of the day.
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  Actually, the story of my day is Kyle and Amanda from Summer
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  House announcing that they are finally divorcing.
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  And that's not me being shady. If you guys watch Summer House,
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  you know we have all been waiting for this day.
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  Finally, Amanda will be free of that manchild, that 45 year old
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  DJ manchild. I know some of you guys asked me
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  to cover Bravo here and there, but the reason why I don't is
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  first of all, I don't really think it makes sense for the
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  niche. But second of all, even if it
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  did, to me Bravo is sacred. Like I really cannot handle
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  losing Bravo to my work life. I really can't ruin it for
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  myself. So that's why I don't really
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  cover Bravo, but mostly because it doesn't really make sense
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  with the niche. OK.
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  Anyways, yes, the pop culture story of the day that is the
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  biggest story for most people is that Brooklyn Beckham has
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  finally spoken out about his estrangement from his parents,
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  and he's given several details about what's been going on over
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  these past few years. Rumors of a family rift
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  seemingly started around the time of Brooklyn's wedding to
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  Nicola Peltz in 2022. At the time, there were reports
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  that Victoria had backed out of designing Nicola's wedding
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  dress. And I also remember that there
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  were reports that Victoria made Nicola cry at I don't know if it
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  was a fitting or amongst the wedding planning at some point.
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  High stakes podcast. They actually did a deep dive
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  into this entire feud. So if you guys are interested in
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  more in depth coverage on that, they did it I think at the tail
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  end of last year. I suggest listening to that
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  episode. You can find their podcast.
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  You can just search High Stakes Podcast on Apple, on Spotify,
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  anywhere. You guys get podcasts.
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  They're part of our network. So yes, that's when things
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  really started to circulate online.
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  Since then, there have been several moments and press leaks
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  about the Beckhams and Brooklyn that have made it obvious that
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  there are issues there. Obviously the biggest narrative
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  in the press was that Nicola was controlling of Brooklyn and was
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  causing issues in the family. Classic.
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  We're always blaming the woman in this situation.
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  So now Brooklyn has spoken out. The statement is 6 pages long so
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  I won't read it all, but I will give you the highlights.
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  I have been silent for years and made every effort to keep these
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  matters private. Unfortunately, my parents and
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  their team have continued to go to the press, leaving me with no
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  choice but to speak for myself and tell the truth about only
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  some of the lies that have been printed.
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  I do not want to reconcile with my family.
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  I'm not being controlled, I'm standing set for myself for the
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  first time in my life. He talks about how his parents
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  have gone to great lengths to portray this very specific,
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  curated image of their family in the press and on social media.
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  He said my parents have been trying endlessly to ruin my
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  relationship since before my wedding, and it hasn't stopped.
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  My mom canceled making Nicholas dress in the 11th hour despite
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  how excited she was to wear her design, forcing her to urgently
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  find a new dress weeks before a big day.
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  My parents repeatedly pressured and attempted to bribe me into
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  signing away the rights to my name, which would have affected
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  me, my wife and our future children.
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  They were adamant on me signing before my wedding date because
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  then the terms of the deal would be initiated.
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  My holdout affected the payday and they have never treated me
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  the same sense. I want to know what this means.
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  I do know that at some point years ago the Beckham's
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  trademarked the names of all of their kids.
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  So I imagine that they were going to release some type of
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  like family related line product brand.
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  I don't know. And this was smart on Brooklyn's
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  part because obviously if he signs away his name, then I
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  guess that means he probably as an individual wouldn't be able
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  to release anything under his own name.
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  And if he did, then his parents would get at least some type of
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  like financial cut from that. And if they did, if he did sign
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  his name away to them, then they can launch anything with his
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  name on it. I think that's what I've seen
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  floating around. I don't know, I'm not a lawyer,
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  but I really want to know what this is.
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  My mom hijacked my first dance with my wife, which had been
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  planned weeks in advance to a romantic love song in front of
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  our 500 wedding guests. Marc Anthony called me to the
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  stage where in the schedule was planned to be my romantic dance
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  with my wife, but instead my mom was waiting to dance with me.
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  Instead, she danced very inappropriately on me in front
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  of everyone. I've never felt more
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  uncomfortable or humiliated in my entire life.
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  I need them to release the tapes, release the footage.
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  We know you haven't. I need to see this dance.
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  I need to see it. Obviously, I feel so horrible
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  for Brooklyn in this moment, but I need to see Victoria Beckham
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  allegedly dancing inappropriately on him.
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  Like, what does that mean? Literally what does that mean?
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  I I can't even picture it. I need to know also, I'm sorry,
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  just like how embarrassing for Victoria.
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  And I am not on the Beckham side here.
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  I'm like fully on Brooklyn side, but how embarrassing.
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  She must be dying. I feel like as somebody who is
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  so image conscious as Victoria Beckham, for this narrative to
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  be out there now that she had this, like, inappropriate dance
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  moment with her son that really embarrassed him.
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  She must be dying. My wife has been consistently
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  disrespected by my family, no matter how hard we've tried to
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  come together as one. My mom has repeatedly invited
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  women from my past into our lives in ways that were clearly
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  intended to make both of us uncomfortable.
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  And then he talks about the situation where he missed his
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  dad's birthday, I guess he says that they were there for a week.
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  They were trying to figure out ways to meet up with the family,
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  presumably to, like, talk about all of this.
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  And then they refuse to meet him only if they went to David
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  Beckham's birthday party. So they decided not to go and he
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  keeps going. There's a lot.
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  I'm sure you guys have all like seen it by now or at least heard
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  about it. OK, so here's my opinion on
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  this. I am sure there are some people
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  thinking like there's two sides to every story and that parts of
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  this could be sensationalized. But I think regardless of that,
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  like we will never know. But I think regardless of that,
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  a child going no contact with their parents is incredibly
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  traumatic. And it's not a decision that I
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  imagine anyone takes lightly. I don't imagine you get to the
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  point where you're going not only no contact with them, but
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  also speaking out publicly about this and like truly severing
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  that tie without reaching a breaking point.
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  And in my opinion, the parent child relationship, there is
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  always a power dynamic in favor of the parent, even when the
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  child is an adult, which I think should be taken into account
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  when we talk about adult children going no contact with
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  their parents and what that decision was like.
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  That's kind of an aside. But I think that is often
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  missing from the conversation is the power dynamic there.
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  I believe from the statement and what we know about his
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  relationship with Nicola, Brooklyn was opened up to a life
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  independent of the Beckham name and from what his parents
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  expected of him through this relationship with Nicola.
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  And I think Nicola is kind of being used as a scapegoat in
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  their family, like as the reason that they all tell themselves
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  that Brooklyn has left them. Reminder, Brooklyn is an adult
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  man with a fully he formed frontal lobe and his own agency
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  OK, and he is choosing to live a life separate to his family.
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  These are his choices that he's making.
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  You know, his wife cannot control him, cannot force him to
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  do anything. And I really don't believe that
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  she is the reason that his whole family is now broken up.
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  I also do want to say we should hopefully be able to hold 2
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  truths here. People love to bring up that
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  Nicola is the child of a billionaire family and that she
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  has a very problematic past. Like she was apparently a
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  nightmare to her nannies growing up.
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  Apparently she physically assaulted one at one point.
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  I think she bullied girls as teenagers.
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  I've seen in the press like there's a lot of narrative
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  around like what she was like as a kid.
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  She may have been a nightmare child, which I do think we
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  should keep in mind if children are lashing out that much.
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  I don't. Again, I just don't think
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  children want to be lashing out. I just don't think children want
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  to be that disruptive. I don't know.
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  I don't have kids, but that is my take on that.
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  But I think regardless, she may have been a nightmare.
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  She may have been a bully. She may have been a mean girl, a
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  bad person. Like we don't know.
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  I don't know. But I also think she is probably
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  also being painted on fairly by the media in this situation and
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  being used as the scapegoat in the Beckhams versus Brooklyn
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  situation. I feel so sad for Brooklyn.
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  Like reading these posts, whether there is an element of
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  sensationalization or not, Like regardless what his parents have
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  done and how they've treated his wife and how they've treated
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  their relationship has obviously hurt him so much.
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  The point where he doesn't talk to them anymore and he's now
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  putting up this like, very public statement, which, you
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  know, as soon as he, like, he was very aware this was going to
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  blow up, like this was going to be everywhere.
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  And this is making a huge statement.
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  And I also love that this is an example of a man who was
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  choosing his wife over, I don't say like his mother, but like,
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  over his, you know, his family and like this toxic dynamic that
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  they allegedly have going on. We see too many relationships
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  break down because the man cannot stand up to his family
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  and set boundaries around their relationship.
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  So this is a great example of that.
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  All right, the next story that I have for you guys, it's a really
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  quick one, but it's everywhere. Everyone's talking about it on
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  Reddit. So the daily dirty is leaving
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  Alex Cooper's unwell network. The Daily Dirty was a daily pop
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  culture news podcast Co hosted by TikTok creator Hannah Kosh,
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  Sequoia Holmes and Fiona Shea. And a few days ago, Hannah, who
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  is the main host of the show, and I only say that she had the
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  biggest following and I'm pretty sure the show was kind of built
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  around her pop culture coverage on TikTok posted on her channel,
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  a screenshot of her in the recording studio with this
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  caption. The end of an era at the Daily
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  Dirty. So many incredible guests, over
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  200 episodes, a full billboard in Times Square.
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  This is going to be a very juicy chapter in the memoir one day by
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  Unwell. So unlike with Alex Earl, it
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  seems like Hannah was not able to keep the Daily Dirty as she
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  didn't say the end of the era with Unwell.
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  She said the end of an era with the show and Unwell.
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  I imagine the Daily Dirty was probably a show that was created
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  by Unwell and then they brought the girl to host.
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  Everyone's like, please, we need the tea on on.
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  Well, like what is going on? They seem to just be like
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  cutting shows left and right and everybody's posting these like
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  shady things. And I think part of it is like
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  the shady posting is, you know, these are already creators with
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  platforms and they're used to over sharing their lives.
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  So we're probably going to get like more quote UN quote with
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  feels like tea from them than if it was like a more traditional
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  like, I don't know, somebody who was like not as public about
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  their lives as like a creator is going to be.
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  I think with the daily dirty, it probably did come down to
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  numbers and the commercial viability of that.
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  Despite Hannah having over 1.2 million followers and being part
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  of Unwell, which is obviously a huge network, the show's TikTok
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  only had 8000, 1000 followers and it's Instagram only had
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  5000. And I know that might not be a
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  good indication of how many listeners there are, but I think
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  it shows the impact or the influence of a show like that.
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  It really shows that it didn't reach the scale that it needed
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  to in terms of like cultural impact online to be able to
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  continue to scale, I guess. And I think part of it, I don't
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  know, I never listened to it because I don't really listen to
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  pop culture podcasts anymore because I can't because then it
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  just like influences my opinions here and stuff.
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  But I think part of it, when I was scrolling through their
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  content, it seems like they covered really mainstream stuff.
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  Whereas like, Hannah is a known figure in Internet culture
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  because she was one of the first kind of bigger pop culture
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  creators that was covering that. And she covered a lot of
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  Internet culture, like a lot of like TikTok drama and like all
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  that kind of stuff in her early days on her channel.
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  So like, she should obviously have been doing this Daily Show.
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  I mean, not because that's what I'm doing, but she should have
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  been doing a Daily Show on Internet culture and kind of
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  leaving mainstream pop culture for the existing podcasters that
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  have been doing that now for years.
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  That's my opinion on this. And I don't think that was
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  necessarily up to her. Like, I do think that this was a
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  show, like I said, created by Unwell or Serious and they just
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  brought them in. I feel like it's also possibly
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  obvious that the Unwell Network doesn't do a lot of like
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  marketing promotion stuff for their various shows.
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  I don't know, as far as I can tell, like I'm very tapped into
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  this space and I don't see a lot of promo for their various
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  shows. So that could be an issue that
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  people have as well. And podcasting is just a hard
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  skill. Like bringing in Tik Tokers,
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  like TikTok is such a different medium from podcasting.
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  So bringing in Tik Tokers to host all these podcasts, like I
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  understand why some of them just like don't hit.
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  Yes. I would love to hear your
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  theories on this. I was saying to Annabelle
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  earlier when we were talking about the story.
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  I was like, you know, whenever anything like this happens, I
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  just I can't help but think about how if it was me, OK, like
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  if I was Hannah during this time where my show is ending, I'm
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  having to announce it. My whole life is transitioning
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  now. I would not be able to stop
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  thinking about. And this is like obviously my
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  problem the day when I like got reached out to about unwell when
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  we signed the contract, when the Billboard went up in Times
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  Square, Like I would just replay those moments of highs and like
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  how these girls probably felt like on top of the fucking
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  world, like everything was about to open up for them.
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  Like this was their big break moment, like it was all
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  happening. And I would just think about
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  like that high and how everything had just dissolved
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  from there. Like I was just like, I feel so
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  bad for them. Like we obviously don't know
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  what happened, but I just cannot imagine how heart wrenching that
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  would feel to be like I was on top of the world and I had so
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  much hope and so much promise and like everything was gonna
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  work out. And Oh my God, like I made it.
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  Like I finally fucking did it. And then to feel like it was all
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  taken away. And I'm not saying that that's
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  what happened. I don't really know.
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  We don't know what happened. Maybe they walked away.
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  Like we don't know. It would be heartbreaking either
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  way. OK.
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  And the next story that I have for you guys, the last story.
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  This is one that I would normally not cover, but I think
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  you'll understand why I chose to after.
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  So Patrick Starr, his brand one size is venturing into skin care
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  two years after he got his aestheticians license.
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  I love throwing in some beauty influencer news every once in a
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  while. It's like my roots, like back to
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  my roots, my true passion here. And I saw Jen Love's review
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  cover this in one of her recent videos.
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  I wanted to share this because I thought it was relevant to us
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  and what we talked about here from a different perspective
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  than how Jen covered it. So influencer beauty brand One
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  Size by Patrick Starr has announced last week that they
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  are expanding into skin care. One Size has been quite
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  successful in the makeup space for a while now.
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  They have a couple cult products, including their
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  setting spray. And what's interesting here is
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  that Patrick, the founder, the influencer behind it, obviously
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  revealed in 2023 that he had obtained his estheticians
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  license. He didn't say why, but a lot of
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  fans were like, oh, it does that mean he's going to be doing
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  something around skin care? And obviously that was part of a
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  larger plan because One Size has now expanded into skin care.
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  So this is from the One Size website.
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  Innovative formulas for all skin types.
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  Patrick Starr earned an aesthetician license to ensure
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  all products would work for his sensitive skin.
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  Now, in Jen's video, she talked about how like, an aesthetician
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  is not a cosmetic formulator. So that is an important
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  distinction when we're talking about Patrick's involvement in
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  the product. But nevertheless, I think
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  Patrick getting his license is nothing but a good thing for
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  both the brand and also setting like a really amazing precedent
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  for the industry. We see so many influencers and
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  celebrities launch these companies, particularly in the
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  beauty space where you know, they barely are involved at all.
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  They're there for the paycheck. Maybe they're there for the
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  accolades to be able to say that they're a brand owner or ACEO.
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  If you know, you know, and how many beauty and skin care brands
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  just have like a celebrity and influencers face basically
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  slapped on it and it's like, oh, this is Ariana Grande's brand.
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  Is Ariana Grande really involved in R.E.M. beauty?
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  I don't know. No shade to Ari Annabelle's
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  going to kill me because she's like her number one.
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  And consumers hate this. This sentiment from fans is that
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  they just chill to us. They exploit their followers for
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  personal financial gain. I mean even Michaela's POV
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  beauty people are like what the fuck is this?
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  Like people really have such a bad view of influencer and
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  celebrity beauty brands and they have for years.
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  So Patrick getting his license and then launching skin care two
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  years later shows how seriously he takes business and in my
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  opinion how much he respects his fan base.
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  Especially because skin care is not something to mess around
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  with, right? And like, could this be
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  performative? I don't know, maybe.
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  But it doesn't really matter if he's done a lot more work than
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  what a lot of other influencers and celebrities could say in
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  this space now than what a lot of his peers would ever do for
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  their brands. And I feel like that at the end
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  of the day is what is going to build trust with his audience
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  and what's going to make people excited to try this product.
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  He's walking the walk, OK, and I love it.
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  I think it's setting a really good precedent.
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  Anyways, guys, that's it for Mini Scroll today.
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