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[SPEAKER_00]: In terms of this run all those situations, he's got to do what's best for his team, and I think they probably lied to him about how important he's going to be.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't need him anymore.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually believe that Leonel Messi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody loves football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be watching this game in first for the right reason, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Messi saying goodbye.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is how the grits deserve the world with a full stadium, basically singing their name as they get carried off the pitch.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You never know, maybe enough of Messi will come around soon.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome back to this sports illustrative football club.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Your football show here on Sports Illustrated is time to talk about international break.
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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of stars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Laminia Mal, Cristiano Ronaldo.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's time to say goodbye to Leonardo Messi, probably for most of us, the goat.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm an escender and meaty, and I have two goats.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Next to me, Leia's Busidi.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a good man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to cause a lot of controversy by saying, most people's goat, we're going to talk about Ronaldo on a second.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got the the Argentine Kid on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You see me with the MVP fans recently.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be you with Cristiano fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the careful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a careful.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I give you a personality, you can probably, you need to help me.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How are we?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm doing very well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How are you?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw a lot of good football.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm starting to get excited for Italy playing a decent football against Turkey and against France.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was important and
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a bit sad because it's a big part of my life watching Lionel Messi making his debut in the World Cup in 2006.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Wearing this jersey against Serbian Moltenegro, but then the legacy we have been listening talking about the legacy of the number 10 of Argentina.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The legacy for me is already in Barcelona with the guy wearing the number 19
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[SPEAKER_02]: and deciding, okay, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: You say that was tired, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm gonna score in three games in the first five minutes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Laminiamal is just something else.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man, I love this kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I love Laminiamal so much.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's such a joy to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's arrogant, he's got swagger, he's got the way he plays, the way he makes you feel, and then it's all top of the efficiency, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not just some aesthetic guy, he's not some skillful, flurry player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, the best player in the world, but even if you don't think that he's undoubtedly in those conversations, and the way he started the season, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's incredible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The goals, the assists, the match-winning moments, is decisive right now at a really, really high level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Luca, in a Balondor conversation, plenty of doubt, these Leminiamal international break, and I would say that the last month of Leminiamal, the start of
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's statement, that's a good question out there, because I think my favorite for the Balondor is Kayna, I think that's changed since we lasted the filming, but I actually think the game against England might skew the votes, if I'm being completely honest, I believe it was a night before the vote intended, and having that memory as a journalist voting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last thing you saw was two ball on door favorites going up against each other, you're looming coming out on top at Wembley, kind of in play too well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying it should skewer it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it might play an impact.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You might be categorically the favorite of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Which, look at the, whoever you have as the favorite one of on door, I'll leave that up to you guys.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you think you're emotional when it can for whatever, but I have a big problem with the fact that the ball on door voting less until what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: tenth of of September.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How can it be that in a word that is solely based on last season, the voting is a lot to stretch in to the first few weeks of the season?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, that's going to skew voters, but it shouldn't, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yamal vs. Kane should have no bearing on the Boundal or whatsoever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yet, as you said, it will 100% skew the way people think about it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If I have to vote the night after the game, of course you're going to Yeah, I mean, but these guys aren't robots, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're obviously going to see that game and let it skew them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that game shouldn't even come into consideration because they'll come into the time frame.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big flaw of the award.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I definitely definitely would agree.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it should it should have ended like the day after the walk off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: or at least a week after it's a little bit of break over the summer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So for like that, yeah, in the summer holidays, because now obviously the change it from an annual thing to a seasonal thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you have to, you have to type better, because that shouldn't affect the voting, but I think it will.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I look, let me in for me is the best footballer in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been on that sort of hype train for a while now, but at the end of the day,
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[SPEAKER_00]: It shouldn't be given based on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think in that performance there, I mean, was by far in a way, the best player out of the two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no debate there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It shouldn't affect the way the voters work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The voters vote.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Spain became the team with the longest streak of gang before them.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Was it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it Italy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it Italy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't spin it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a pretty good run before it did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's Italy, the 19th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was Eastern and 19th.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, actually, 19th and 19th, I've been tied tonight.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think they were on top with 39 Spain with 40.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was Argentina's between Saudi Arabia and the world?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it was Saudi, what ended the run for them?
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[SPEAKER_01]: It ended the run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Saudi ended the run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was very, we were on a crazy run as well too out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One point I was looking at that record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my goodness, like we were on like 28 games or something like that crazy unbeaten right away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, bro.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was insane And then we lost this small team in Africa and crushed down the group stage by anyways Yeah, Spain right now the best team on the planet by far I think that game against England.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think England had a lot of good moments in that game, especially And the first half started the second in transition They were really hurting them, but when Spain get a football to the ball
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[SPEAKER_01]: Roderie, Louise, Omo, I mean, the center backs are so technically brilliant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They can pick and make teams chase ghost shadows and the other top top team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I would say that probably this generation are already thinking we want to do the same as the golden generation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, we want to try to look to go back to back and do the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm, look, obviously, Laminiumau is the main man for the Spanish national team, but they got so much file, firepower and every sort of realm.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the scariest thing is, as I mentioned earlier about Laminiumau's efficiency, I actually think Laminiumau isn't a very efficient score, which sounds mental because you've got 25 goals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can do better, you can do better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think his finishen is probably his weakest aspect.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that he's getting so many goals and creating so many chances for himself, yeah, he's not, I don't think, yeah, an elite level finisher, which I think of definitely become, but he's not there just yet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really frightened, and they he's already operated out that wavelength of out being an elite level goalscorer at this minute.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's an interesting point of view.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like, probably, we've led by the also the array of finishing option, yes, but.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with Luca, I think you can definitely improve that, but that's something that my opinion finished.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we say it can be improved on it, it doesn't always improve to be fair, because it's finishing a lot of it to his composer, but I believe Yamal will kind of figure that out, but even if you look at that, the Oyerse ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was 18 goals, and it's last 20 games for the Spanish national team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, really.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really the way shaping the people when they cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we always look at the Spain team and we think, oh, where could they improve striker, because Oyerse ball's not a big name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But his record for Spain is up there with any number nine in real football at the moment when it comes to your national team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what, when I was watching the game, I thought...
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[SPEAKER_02]: I would back to every Ouyasable, was a striker in my team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if you have a Champions League ambition, Ouyasable is a great place.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The linker plays, it's just fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's an incredible career as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Legend for his boyhood club, World Cup winner, ridiculous goals for all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a winner in a World Cup, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the coba-dari with coba-dari, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And when it comes to Athletic Club and Real Sociedad,
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[SPEAKER_00]: to make a name for yourself, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but also to leave, because there is a lot of pressure on you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw it with Nico Williams, he wanted to leave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then also was Zubimendi, probably.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We couldn't leave.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he managed to join, to join Arsenal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, guys, also an interesting international break for England.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jude designed a role of star for himself, Harry Kane, but I would say also Antonio Gordon, he gave an interview saying, ah, for me was really important leaving actually the Premier League, they thought there was a physical player, and now I can show what I can do with the ball.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gordon's feeling himself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the most imperfect ones.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, what is he scored for Barcelona yet though?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think he was scored.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's playing right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I don't know this is so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a good idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Just before you talk about Bellingham.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You talk about Harry Kane and what kind of her is Bellingham?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Credentials, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think looking at the way Jude plays for England is hurting Kane's credentials because it's so clear to me with the best player on that team is Jude Bellingham right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I reckon said the way he's playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He can go that as one of the greatest players of all time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and I certainly grew with him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the leadership, the leadership, the quality, the mentality, the big moments turning up for your country, that performance against Croatia, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's virtual, so, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you talk about what could hurt Cain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what hurts him is you look at the team he's playing for.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Byron, I think, is a whole different conversation with all these six.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he can even make that case there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, certainly for the English National Team, both at the World Cup and in these fronties, it's very clear who the Alpha is in this team and it's a dream-belling him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's pretty fair assumption on it today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think it's national football ways a lot when it comes to Balondaur anyway.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that would definitely pay a part on the voter's mind.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think when it comes to Bellingham, I think that might be as best performance I've seen personally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it is one of his greatest performances.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you could even make the case that you started this season better than the 23-24 season in terms of how well rounded his gamers are really due.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think 23, 24 elite level golf scrim at full.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fake.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Those numbers are one of those scrim points.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying from a well-rounded, how complete he is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That engine, the amount of ground he's covered in his presence, he's just, he's matured a lot as a player, which I think you've seen in his game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think 23, 24 elite.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think this season, he started incredibly well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you can make the case that he's not just one of the best but supporters and well, he's one of the best players in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But how many players can he concrete you say?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A better than him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll be honest guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's getting to the point now There's serious questions to be asked.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he the best Englishman photo ever ever?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I really think he's I think he's really You got a lot of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He gives one for the chop and in terms of I'll say this in terms of English players for their national team I think yes, he got to do more for me.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He got to do more
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, how much?
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're building them gets injured tomorrow at career ending injury and you never plays again for his career Are we going to say that automatically he's greater than the other three now he's he's got to play out his career But he's on trajectory No, it's trajectory.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He will retire as the best, but you got to you got to play out his career Thanks for the essays guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Let us know your best English meet-fielder in any story Leas, I won your top five best English midfielders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes
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[SPEAKER_01]: you got to go to three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're in that top five in whatever order you want.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's it's so difficult to separate them on any given day I could switch, but they're in the three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, in terms of central midfielders, not wide midfielders, central midfielders, and gas coins more of a 10, but I think you've got to put him in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Brian Robinson is in there as well, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jude in terms of national team performances and what he's done, he's certainly in that conversation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough to pick a five, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe I go for those five robes in the three English midfielder of the 2000s and maybe Jude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a good three?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's pretty solid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm a solid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can't speak on the 66 team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Bobby Charlton, he's more forward, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If we're considering midfielder's stuff to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think of the 80s, 90s onwards.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably the five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You probably don't believe us tough to leave out on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, probably don't believe it, but I wasn't born in 66.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't think that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not going to die over 30, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look at.
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[SPEAKER_00]: In order.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I just don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If you are, you, you, you, you, I, I feel like you want to be honest taste and I don't do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Stop playing as courage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What I mean, it's tough to say, dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But since I started watching Football Bellingham is the best because I didn't see the peak of Gerard Lampard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't live through that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Bellingham is the best I've seen, but in terms of the names, yeah, Bellingham, gas going and then Skulls Gerard Lampard on a swell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would, I would personally go for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but Jude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, on the topic of him starting the season so great, I think a lot of it is come down to the fact that he's entered the season fit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a big thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think marigno has really, like, I think he already liked Jude before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you think of what, uh,
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[SPEAKER_01]: an ideal Joe San Marino kind of player is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jude is the prototype.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's everything Marino loves in a footballer.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hard working, head down, physically dominant, good and tight spaces.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jude takes every ball from the exact time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think he's really profiled him well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I look at the last two seasons for Jude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like managers have moved him in different positions.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thomas, a company in Batpe, or Vinnie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I look at this Madrid team and Marino clearly has Jude.
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[SPEAKER_01]: As maybe not the figurehead because that's Killian.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But clearly it's built as well to really get the most out of Jude
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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I see you smile because if we text the load, Ale, we're back, Ale, we're getting back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're back already, it's all the things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're on the right track.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ah, okay, trajectory.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you've got confused back track, you know, rhymes for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, Italy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Onto the Italy segment now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm liking what I'm seeing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like what I saw against Belgium.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I guess Angela was paying for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was really bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was painful.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, growing pains, different team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there was no good in that game whatsoever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I took in France, which were a different Italy side.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Manchini.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting really with Manchini, because even when he took over all the years ago, what eight years ago now,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So many players in that first game he played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was going through the line up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there was volatility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Krishito was playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Galia Ardini, I think even played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like not barely.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think I need Kalini Bonucci.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Vera, do you think you're struggling or not?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think we've found my play in this first game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Potentially due chart, I don't remember exactly the keeper, but there were very few players that were involved in that year as when in team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Mancini is one of those coaches.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He likes to test new things, see what works, what doesn't, what he's trying to work out who he can trust.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And in my opinion,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we've learned a lot from these first three games, honestly, I think we've learned a lot on the system you want to play, the individualcy can rely on, who can trust upon, and I've seen a lot of brilliant signs.
14:17
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at Clio do, I think I've been calling out for Clio to talk about.
14:20
[SPEAKER_00]: It's about time, I say.
14:21
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Clio do was brilliant.
14:23
[SPEAKER_00]: Scalvin is been good, but I think Bastonia has dropped his two best performances for the national team in these last two games.
14:28
[SPEAKER_00]: Call of Fiori, of course, is brilliant as ever, so it's a good job.
14:31
[SPEAKER_00]: The midfield is perfectly balanced now for Jolly, Fratezian, then Tonali did the hard thing dropping Barella.
14:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think Barella was that bad against Belgium, but I think with the way that midfield 3 jailed against Turkey, it's hard to really change that midfield for it.
14:43
[SPEAKER_00]: It peels incredible.
14:45
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, Sebastiano, I suppose it was played really well.
14:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I just like the team.
14:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good feeling around it to let them in.
14:51
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, in that France game, it was more the performance rather than the result which mattered in my opinion.
14:56
[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think is the player that comes out of this international break for Italy like that you look at the highest regard It's a good question.
15:02
[SPEAKER_00]: It comes out of it the best between coyote and Leo Yeah, I think Pio's supposed to will retire as the highest score in Italian player ever for the national team
15:10
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15:29
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15:57
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wouldn't surprise me.
15:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Even Delpierra, how many does he have?
16:00
[SPEAKER_01]: Probably less than 15, probably not, right?
16:01
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16:05
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16:07
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he scored the biggest one against Australia, no?
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16:25
[SPEAKER_00]: That's true actually, 11th and a bit more, I think he's like a 6 in 11 so I'm going to have a game.
16:30
[SPEAKER_02]: I would say that the most important job of Mancinias is try to injure confidence into the team.
16:39
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is what he did to be fair because it's like,
16:42
[SPEAKER_02]: It was a real situation, you know, we lost the game, we ended our street losing to Macedonia and all Macedonia, and we didn't qualify for the work-up, but what Mancini did when we won the year in 2021?
16:57
[SPEAKER_02]: was okay, let's try to control the game, let's try to play a different game than the Italian defensive philosophy.
17:04
[SPEAKER_02]: But it's important, there is a bit of confidence and we can look at the future positively.
17:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Before going to say goodbye to this man, it's like we need to talk about what happened
17:27
[SPEAKER_02]: You don't, I mean, it's Cristiano Ronaldo.
17:31
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, it's not fair for who?
17:33
[SPEAKER_02]: If it's, if we've war maps, give it, give him, it's time.
17:37
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't say, I say it on the fence really worth this one.
17:41
[SPEAKER_00]: I have to be honest, because I think, in the last few years, unfortunately Ronaldo's legacy, I think, will be tarnished, posters retirement, right?
17:47
[SPEAKER_00]: I think people are going to naturally remember how it ended.
17:50
[SPEAKER_00]: The resensy bias will always play into it and it ended pretty sour.
17:54
[SPEAKER_00]: But the reason why I sit more on the fence with this situation is,
17:57
[SPEAKER_00]: I, I'm very much of the belief that I think the Portuguese Federation, I do think they lie to him almost and they, they, I think they convinced that he's going to be a major part in this team still to continue playing for the national team post the World Cup, promising to get him game time in such, even though he's not at that level to play anymore and that's the reason why joined on, why he continues playing for the national team, more so to keep the eyes on the
18:27
[SPEAKER_02]: the last one and a half million followers on Instagram by night.
18:31
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because unfortunately, the Portuguese national team is Ronaldo.
18:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, in the sense that it's been built up to the hype and the level it is, thanks to Cristiano Ronaldo, he's put them on the map in search.
18:41
[SPEAKER_00]: And obviously,
18:43
[SPEAKER_00]: He's way past so I'm not done on I don't think he should play but I feel from Ronaldo the reason why he probably left This I think they probably lied to him about how important he's gonna be in this team Best on one game.
18:53
[SPEAKER_01]: No play the first game and then the second game he didn't play so after two games He decided I'm going to leave the camp because I got lied to if this was like four games straight of his was Messet around with him.
19:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be a lot more understandable but I don't really believe personally
19:09
[SPEAKER_01]: There was anything that could have been drastic enough for Kristianna to leave camp after one game not coming into the pitch.
19:15
[SPEAKER_01]: I think for me personally, that's a bit of an overreaction from him.
19:18
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we don't know what happened behind the scenes.
19:20
[SPEAKER_01]: Jorge Azuz could have promised him brother.
19:22
[SPEAKER_01]: You will play 90 minutes and then he benched them and then he ran.
19:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if that's the case, then honestly, I'd love for some of the come out.
19:27
[SPEAKER_01]: Jorge Azuz hasn't stated that's exactly what he did.
19:29
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he promised him that he would come on and then he didn't end up bringing him on.
19:32
[SPEAKER_01]: You could also argue that game state didn't require Cristiano at that point.
19:34
[SPEAKER_01]: They were defending a two-one lead away the Norway.
19:37
[SPEAKER_01]: What's a 41 year old strike going to do that and prove my team?
19:39
[SPEAKER_01]: But I just feel even if you can see Cristiano's point of view from this, which I definitely think he probably has a case.
19:45
[SPEAKER_01]: It does feel a little over-traumatic to leave camp like that, especially when you know the amount of outrage is going to cause.
19:52
[SPEAKER_01]: You know the impact that you have on the globe.
19:54
[SPEAKER_01]: I think for a young team and a new manager coming in, he should have maybe been the bigger man in the situation.
20:00
[SPEAKER_01]: And at least let it play off the international break before coming out of your statement and say, now I don't want to play anymore.
20:04
[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I got betrayed here as well.
20:06
[SPEAKER_01]: I think what I'm more sympathetic.
20:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, do you think Jorge Jesus was proud to manage this transition?
20:13
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I remember the first press conference when they asked him about Cristiano Ronaldo he said, yeah, I mean, I told Neymar, yeah, you can play.
20:21
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm not scared to do it.
20:23
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, look, first and foremost, I think he is just deserves a lot of credit because forgot about even the, that I've been about this for an all the thing in terms of the ways team is playing right now.
20:31
[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing amazing stuff and people will look at Ronaldo being out as a reason for it.
20:34
[SPEAKER_01]: I look, I think Portugal, I have my opinions on that, but I also think he deserves a lot of credit for how the team is playing.
20:40
[SPEAKER_01]: He deserves a top manager.
20:41
[SPEAKER_01]: This is probably the second best Portuguese manager of the last 25 years after Joe's in Merino and he's always made big decisions.
20:47
[SPEAKER_01]: He's always coached successful teams.
20:48
[SPEAKER_01]: What he did would benefit on the 2000s.
20:50
[SPEAKER_01]: I think massively underrated, so I give him credit.
20:52
[SPEAKER_01]: But in terms of this for an old situation, he's got to do what's best for his team and he does.
20:57
[SPEAKER_01]: At the end of the day, we're all those no longer a player that you can really rely on as a manager.
21:01
[SPEAKER_01]: You can't build your team around him anymore, especially when you have the quality that Portugal have.
21:05
[SPEAKER_01]: So yes, could you have done with it better?
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: You could have.
21:08
[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day,
21:11
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether he was the one that forced there, whether or not all the was the one that forced it at the end of the day I think it's the right decision for him to move on.
21:17
[SPEAKER_01]: You look at the way the team is playing They don't need him anymore.
21:20
[SPEAKER_01]: I actually believe that they don't need him anymore.
21:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think they should have caught him up in the first place How do you not call him up if he is one if he wants to play this idea to that where I don't believe personally now This is he said she said right.
21:31
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't believe personally Cristiano was looking to retire from Portugal after the World Cup.
21:35
[SPEAKER_01]: Let me tell you why I think Cristiano's dream in his mind
21:40
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Cristiano wants to score a thousandth goal in the Saudi league against Alettifat.
21:44
[SPEAKER_01]: He wants the whole world to be watching his crowning moment rightfully so.
21:48
[SPEAKER_01]: So this idea that Cristiano that he was just wanting to step away from the team after the World Cup, he even said recently in an interview, my dream is to score a thousand goal in the national team.
21:58
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of where I sit with him.
22:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he was ever going to walk out easily.
22:02
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think it's weird, I don't think voluntarily wouldn't have wanted to be called up.
22:06
[SPEAKER_00]: Naturally, I think in an idealistic world, of course, if you could score as far as a thousand of gold for Portugal compared to our national.
22:10
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we all know what he's going to pick.
22:12
[SPEAKER_00]: But I also felt like had to be not been called up.
22:14
[SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't think he would have been, I think he would have understood it, honestly, post the world card.
22:18
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would have been, and it also would have been a bit look, then him, you know, then promising game time, then they drop him, and you know how run out as templating as you think.
22:25
[SPEAKER_01]: You can eat, they were never going to not call him up if he didn't retire for international football.
22:30
[SPEAKER_01]: It's impossible, bro.
22:31
[SPEAKER_01]: If Cristiano doesn't retire and they don't call him up, that's going to be the biggest outrage of all time.
22:36
[SPEAKER_00]: I can't wait to say it.
22:37
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so much pressure, bro.
22:39
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I think he's your said and done.
22:40
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, you just leave my own.
22:41
[SPEAKER_01]: It's because I don't know the word.
22:42
[SPEAKER_00]: I have conversations after the World Cup when it was willing to step back on us.
22:46
[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know that.
22:47
[SPEAKER_02]: If you don't, if he doesn't do it, it's not.
22:51
[SPEAKER_02]: It's not.
22:52
[SPEAKER_01]: I look, again, this is just he's, I know Marca came out with this report that he was willing to step out a side of the World Cup until I hear it from his mouth.
22:58
[SPEAKER_01]: Honestly, I'm not sure I believe it, bro.
23:00
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Cristiano was going to continue until he got a thousand goals in Portugal, sure.
23:03
[SPEAKER_02]: From a guy, I mean, a guy from a goat, otherwise, I mean, I'm trying to just the guy, yeah, from a goat, leaving the, the, the hotel overnight to another arriving in Buenos Aires to say farewell to the national team, Leonardo Messi.
23:24
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be one of the most, but the depends on what the episode comes out.
23:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the game has played already at this point.
23:28
[SPEAKER_01]: I doubt it, right?
23:28
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's going to be one of the most watched games ever.
23:32
[SPEAKER_01]: I genuinely think people will stay up to 5 a.m. to watch it depending on where they're at.
23:36
[SPEAKER_01]: They'll stay up to 8 a.m. to watch it doesn't matter.
23:38
[SPEAKER_01]: I think everybody who loves football will be watching this game and for the right reason, then it's messy saying goodbye.
23:43
[SPEAKER_01]: And back on the subject of Ronaldo, I wish this is kind of how it goes for him.
23:48
[SPEAKER_01]: I hope they call him back in and they have this kind of fair world.
23:50
[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.
23:50
[SPEAKER_02]: But this is what it should have been in the first place.
23:52
[SPEAKER_01]: This is how these kinds of players deserve to be crowned off.
23:54
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about, if not the two greatest players of all time, at least the two greatest players of their generation.
23:58
[SPEAKER_01]: What they've done for their national teams, for their countries, speaks for itself, the record speaks for itself.
24:03
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is how they greatest deserve to go out.
24:05
[SPEAKER_02]: One last day.
24:06
[SPEAKER_02]: I completely agree with you.
24:07
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care how the relationship you call Cristiano, you gave me my full stadium.
24:13
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, man.
24:14
[SPEAKER_02]: Because he deserves.
24:16
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't do this day.
24:17
[SPEAKER_01]: I wish Messy came back to Barcelona for at least one season so that they could give him this kind of Ovation at the Camp Nou because the way he left will always sit.
24:26
[SPEAKER_01]: It won't sit well of me that he never had to say goodbye to the Camp Nou.
24:28
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't crying at any of you.
24:29
[SPEAKER_00]: There was meant to play the finalists, but I wasn't.
24:32
[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't in Camp Nou.
24:33
[SPEAKER_01]: It was in Qatar that was supposed to be.
24:34
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, it was originally meant to be in Camp Nou.
24:36
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24:58
[SPEAKER_00]: even though it wouldn't have been Paloetta.
24:59
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for me, that's how I went messy to go out.
25:01
[SPEAKER_01]: But again, this is how the grits deserve to go out with a full stadium basically singing their name as they get carried off the pitch.
25:07
[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope they have been stored all those while, too.
25:09
[SPEAKER_02]: It's funny because messy already announced his retirement from National Team in 2016, after losing the Copa America final.
25:17
[SPEAKER_02]: And his perception inside of all Argentina was completely different.
25:22
[SPEAKER_02]: People say, ah, don't you dare to compare with Maradona, and then it was able to rewrite E.C.
25:28
[SPEAKER_02]: history with the national team, Luca, what's your memory of Leonardo Messi with Argentina jersey?
25:36
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the greatest international footballers of all time.
25:39
[SPEAKER_00]: Honestly, the time around was incredible.
25:41
[SPEAKER_00]: Like you said, retire in 2016, after losing, it was back to back cop America's against Chile, against Alexis Sanchez's Chile.
25:49
[SPEAKER_00]: It was weird because at the time, I remember, I was young, but the whole goat debate was obviously still around and it was very, very big at the time.
25:56
[SPEAKER_00]: Also, then now I think it was a lot closer because everyone said, oh, you know, Ronaldo's done it for his, and then she was a member.
26:01
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the euros.
26:03
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
26:04
[SPEAKER_00]: It was a tough time for the Messi fanboys, I guess, in that debate, because he just retired.
26:10
[SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like this could be like, this could be it, Messi might have accepted his fate.
26:14
[SPEAKER_00]: He might not be able to lead Argentina to glory like Diego did all the years ago.
26:18
[SPEAKER_00]: And then Femme to be able to come back when Copa America titles, when the World Cup in 2020 dropped the performance he did in the 2026 World Cup.
26:26
[SPEAKER_00]: It's one of those, you know, come back, so we'll always talk about and a lot of the great international players.
26:32
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they had to go through as much hardship or setbacks as Leonardo Messi did to be able to turn it around.
26:37
[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of them sort of hit the ground running almost with their national side and you
26:41
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Messi will go down as one of the greatest well-cut players of all time.
26:44
[SPEAKER_00]: He is the greatest footballer of all time, but I'm talking about international legacy.
26:46
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the best ever, and no, it was a commendable turn around, and I'm always going to have fond memories of Messi for sure.
26:53
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be weird, not seeing him for the Argentina team anymore.
26:56
[SPEAKER_00]: And he was even like, like, I was wearing the seven for Portugal.
26:59
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't look right.
27:00
[SPEAKER_00]: And Nico Paz, I'm sure we'll take the turn, and as good as Nico Paz is, it just, it just won't sit.
27:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It's complicated.
27:05
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really, it's really heavy.
27:07
[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's one of the most beautiful stories in football, is international story.
27:10
[SPEAKER_01]: I think the ups, the downs, the adversity he had to face.
27:14
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the pressure that came of being the number 10 compared to Maradona from day one and phasing your own people.
27:19
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you were Spanish guy.
27:21
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you have that, you have the greatest shadow over your shoulder.
27:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Like we look at Christiano's Portugal, for example.
27:26
[SPEAKER_01]: Cristiano is portable.
27:27
[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, with respect to, you say it'd be one figure, but Cristiano's the guy, right?
27:31
[SPEAKER_01]: With Messi, you have the shadow of a guy who is literally, like, deatized in Argentina.
27:36
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not talking about a great player.
27:37
[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking about someone who's immortal in the Ice of Argentinians, right?
27:40
[SPEAKER_01]: And you have that looming of your shoulder, and anything you do is put under a microscope compared to what he did.
27:46
[SPEAKER_01]: It's practically impossible to meet those expectations, and yet he did it, and not only did it, maybe even superseded it.
27:54
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you talk about the retirement coming back, winning in the Copa America, winning in the World Cup, almost doing it again this time, being spurred on by his father.
28:02
[SPEAKER_01]: For me, it's one of the most beautiful stories in all football.
28:05
[SPEAKER_02]: What's your moment of hearing on Matthew with Ajax and Ajax?
28:07
[SPEAKER_02]: Do we have...
28:07
[SPEAKER_01]: There's so many, right?
28:08
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, for me that the two Copa America always remember when he felt his knees and his teammates picked him up, the World Cup, obviously.
28:16
[SPEAKER_01]: I really love the, I was talking about this with someone else.
28:19
[SPEAKER_01]: I really love the Hatcherke against Ecuador.
28:21
[SPEAKER_01]: On the final day of World Cup qualifying in 2018, where Argentina had to win.
28:24
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they, I think they go down in that game.
28:26
[SPEAKER_01]: And then Messi scores a Hatcherke, but then puts in this insane performance.
28:30
[SPEAKER_01]: And especially at that time, it was one of those, those few times you looked at Messi and like, this is Barça Messi playing for Argentina Messi.
28:36
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, we would see that so much more later on.
28:38
[SPEAKER_01]: But that moment right there, that's like, you talk about carrying your nation.
28:42
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Messi did it in that moment.
28:43
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of those moments for me that I'll always remember.
28:45
[SPEAKER_01]: people in the chat let us know your moment will you understand also with Christian Ronaldo because it's important we need to understand for for Portugal on doubt of them sure look at shares the same one against Sweden you talk about again needing to win carrying your nation those are the two I remember from them were all those had trick against Sweden were all over the last time they were calling it and messy versus Ecuador that's what you call taking over the game now I would agree yeah yeah and now it was for the for Argentina because it's like you you mentioned Nico pass now and now it's difficult
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's very complicated because Argentina's history is win because with a lot of international sides you don't maybe apart from like Portugal, you associate teams rather than players but Argentina is really associated around two footballers, Diego and Messi, so
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[SPEAKER_00]: it's weird to sort of look at where they go from here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we discussed a lot in America around the World Cup.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can Argentina reach those heights again?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Will it be a long time till we see Argentina competing in the World Cup?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go into finals, be in one of the favorites in the competition,
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[SPEAKER_00]: He comes from good young places no denying and I think Nico passes one of the best young players in the world But to carry on that legacy like Leia said for for Messi to have D.A.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go looming above him the next 10 has Messi and D.A.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go It's just It's true that it's good luck You don't just have D.A.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Go Messi do so it's kind of it's insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's it's gonna be a massive mountain to climb But at the same time, you know, and Nico passes a brilliant player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got some good players coming through But I just think to match that
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be almost impossible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You never know, maybe another mess you will come around here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, I think Portugal, I honestly think Portugal have a good future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if you have a good future.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Portugal, even if you look at the under 21s, you see this, the Portuguese French Algerian kid, what's his name, Miss Lube?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks already.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was expecting you to mention Rodrigo Moura, but... Yeah, what's his name?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thiago Gabriel from, they have a really nice, young core coming up, even at youth level.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Portugal is football.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They will win, I don't know if this group will win post or not or whatever, they will be on a good trajectory, the talent they're producing is crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I look at Argentina, I think they will go 40, 50 years of owning the world cup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I genuinely do, I think you will see a walk in the desert, like none other in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's natural, even Skulloni said it, the national team will ever be the same post messy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That chase for the next messy, that every young player and I'll be in compared to messy coming up, it's going to, it's going to take its toll on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: and for you to look at this current national team, they're warriors they fight, but well, they were the last Egypt, it's the reality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, look up America, because it's still thing that will be in and around one another.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, I think the South American football, unfortunately, you look at it right now, it's inside its strongest place right now, but if you're just talking about the world, yeah, no, the world, no, I honestly think Argentina will go through a very, very long drum.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Portuguese football is in a better place going forward than our detinions.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have time, if you want to stay awake, of course, if you are already enjoy Leonardo Messi, a de Monumental, we're going to be back next week with you.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much, Liaz.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you very much, Luca.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: See you next time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Ciao!