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Broncos beat Eagles, Deion Sanders & Bill Belichick struggle, Mark Sanchez Arrested | 10.06 · The Right Time with Bomani Jones

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the right time, a wave original.
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Speaker 1: My name is Bomani Jones. Thanks for listening wherever you
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Speaker 1: give us four stars. I'm inclined to believe you are
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Speaker 1: a hater. We're going to talk a little college football
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Speaker 1: later in a fascinating assortment of other news. But I
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Speaker 1: will tell you, I never thought, it never dawned on me.
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Speaker 1: I never dreamed of it. I never imagined the scenario.
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Speaker 1: where I would come out of a Sunday of football
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Speaker 1: looking forward to talking to people about the unreal quarterback
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Speaker 1: duel that we witnessed between Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnold.
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Speaker 1: Now look, need you guys to understand something, okay? I
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Speaker 1: ain't falling for this Sam Darnold thing.
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Speaker 2: I'm not.
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Speaker 1: I may ultimately end up being wrong and there's nothing
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Speaker 1: to fall for, right? But until I am positive there's
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Speaker 1: nothing to fall for, I'm not going to fall for it.
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Speaker 1: I would even go another step and tell you I'm
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Speaker 1: not particularly interested in falling for this Baker Mayfield thing either.
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Speaker 1: I think Baker Mayfield has squarely worked himself into starting
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Speaker 1: quarterback territory recently. Good to very good starting quarterback territory,
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Speaker 1: but I think we're getting a little bit excessive and
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Speaker 1: overstating what's going on with him playing in the NFC
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Speaker 1: South and all this other stuff, right?
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Speaker 2: It's there. Let me explain something to y'all.
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Speaker 1: I don't have a great answer for how good a
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Speaker 1: defense Tampa Bay and Seattle were playing in that game,
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Speaker 1: but that ball was not touching the ground.
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Speaker 3: That.
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Speaker 1: That game looked like what it must have been like
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Speaker 1: when the dream team would do the three man weave.
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Speaker 1: Like this ball is not touching the ground. They were
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Speaker 1: just going up and down the field. And I'm going
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Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Sam Darnold was playing well
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Speaker 1: enough in that game that I was watching the stuff
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Speaker 1: he was doing. And it was making me ask something
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Speaker 1: of myself that I never feel like I want to
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Speaker 1: have to ask of myself, which is, hey, man, are
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Speaker 1: you just out here being a hater right now?
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Speaker 2: You understand what I'm saying?
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Speaker 1: Like, are you just out here being a hater right now?
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Speaker 1: Because he looks so goddamn good carving up Tampa Bay. Now,
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Speaker 1: I also recognize that part of why Tampa Bay looked
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Speaker 1: like they was getting carved up out there and why
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Speaker 1: they looked so sorry while they was out there is
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Speaker 1: they were out there wearing loser suits. Like, Ryan, I
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Speaker 1: know you're too young to remember when Tampa Bay used
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Speaker 1: to wear the loser suits every week. But they look
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Speaker 1: like that game right there looked like it was Seattle wearing,
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Speaker 1: you know, because both of them came in the league
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Speaker 1: the same year.
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Speaker 2: They're both in their 50th season.
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Speaker 1: And so Seattle was wearing kind of their OG joints
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Speaker 1: and Tampa Bay was wearing their OG joints.
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Speaker 2: And that looked like a 4-12 team against an 8-7 team.
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Speaker 1: I mean, eight and 18, because it felt like the
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Speaker 1: Seahawks were eight and eight every year that they wore
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Speaker 1: those uniforms. And with Tampa Bay, who to this day
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Speaker 1: has the lowest winning percentage for a franchise in the
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Speaker 1: history of the NFL. They was out there in the
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Speaker 1: loser suits, like watching them get diced up, wearing them
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Speaker 1: loser suits.
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Speaker 2: That looks real familiar, brother. Real familiar.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, that those those every day is, like you said,
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Speaker 4: a little before my time. But they combined for 10
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Speaker 4: incompletions on the day. And both had quarterback ratings around 135.
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Speaker 4: So pretty solid work for the guys in the average
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Speaker 4: suit and the loser suit.
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Speaker 1: Let me tell you this about the Tampa Bay loser suits.
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Speaker 1: And I guess this has probably changed now with Mayfield.
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Speaker 1: But prior to Mayfield, Tampa Bay had never signed a
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Speaker 1: quarterback to a second contract. The whole history of the team.
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Speaker 1: They never signed a quarterback to a second contract.
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Speaker 4: That feels impossible.
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Speaker 1: The only one that they ever kind of wanted to
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Speaker 1: sign to a second contract was Doug Williams.
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Speaker 2: But fucking racism.
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Speaker 1: They were offering him less than they offered backup quarterbacks,
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Speaker 1: even though he had got them to the NFC Championship game.
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Speaker 2: But that's who they are.
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield is kind of like, without question, the best
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Speaker 1: quarterback that Tampa Bay has ever had. I have not
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Speaker 1: seen a quarterback be consistently good for a number of years. Like,
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Speaker 1: Baker seems to be on his way.
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Speaker 4: Even old Brady. Yo, Brady.
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Speaker 2: Damn i forgot that happened didn't it yeah that.
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Speaker 1: Did happen but the thing about old brady is i
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Speaker 1: think like that second brady year to me was better
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Speaker 1: than the first one because the first one if you
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Speaker 1: remember in the playoffs he was not good.
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Speaker 4: Yeah i mean and they kind of put it together
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Speaker 4: that first half of the year they weren't good yeah
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Speaker 4: they they.
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Speaker 1: Did some overcoming they had to take stuff out of
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Speaker 1: the playbook because he couldn't throw outs no more like it.
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Speaker 4: Was he's fighting with bruce arians that's right and then
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Speaker 4: that second year he almost came back and he almost
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Speaker 4: won that mvp Yes. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: But now they out here, they're killing it. And people
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Speaker 1: talk about this, you know, the thing about to me
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Speaker 1: about that team as it stands is they're barely beating
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Speaker 1: everybody they beat, but they're beating just about everybody they play.
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Speaker 1: And they almost got that win over the Eagles where
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Speaker 1: they would have been undefeated, but they, they play into
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Speaker 1: Falcons as tight as they play into Seahawks, basically as
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Speaker 1: tight as they play in the Eagles. Like it doesn't
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Speaker 1: tell me anything, but it, They look like they have
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Speaker 1: a good quarterback, and Seattle also looked like they had
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Speaker 1: a good quarterback, and I just don't know what to make.
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Speaker 1: These are two guys that were both on the Carolina
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Speaker 1: Panthers very recently, both of whom were drafted in 2018,
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Speaker 1: and both of whom, by the time we got to
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Speaker 1: the year, I guess it's 2022, were actual real live journeymen.
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Speaker 4: I think they've been on a combined nine teams.
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Speaker 1: But can you think, who has played their way out
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Speaker 1: of journeyman status? Like these guys are all former journeymen.
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Speaker 1: The thing that's most amazing about that 2018 draft, which
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Speaker 1: is like, it's not the 1983 draft for quarterbacks that
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Speaker 1: had all the Hall of Famers, except it is going
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Speaker 1: to have Josh Allen, who I think will probably make
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Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. It will have Lamar Jackson, who
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Speaker 1: absolutely will make the Hall of Fame. Baker Mayfield has
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Speaker 1: had some good seasons in the NFL. Sam Darnold seems
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Speaker 1: to be piecing this thing back together, the Josh Rosen thing.
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Speaker 2: That's wild. That, you know, it's like it never happened.
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Speaker 1: But literally none of them turned out the way the
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Speaker 1: most people thought. Whether that had been good or bad,
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Speaker 1: nobody went right at like, oh, yeah, well, that's what
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Speaker 1: I saw was going to happen for those guys.
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Speaker 4: None of it.
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Speaker 2: It's just been like a mixed hodgepodge of results for
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Speaker 2: all of those dudes, right?
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Speaker 1: It wasn't on display in Baltimore because Lamar Jackson was
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Speaker 1: hurt and they're finished.
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Speaker 2: They got therapy. asses kick. And yes, part of it
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Speaker 2: is that Cooper Rush was the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: This was the week of backup quarterbacks we'd seen previously
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Speaker 1: be good coming down to earth. Jake Browning went back
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Speaker 1: to being cheeks after that one stretch he had where
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Speaker 1: we saw him start and he was good a couple
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Speaker 1: years ago.
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Speaker 2: Nah, cheeks.
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Speaker 1: No other way to look at it. Just cheeks. Carson Wentz,
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Speaker 1: he didn't look like cheeks, did he? He stopped short
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Speaker 1: of Cheeks' level. I don't think that he got to
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Speaker 1: that place. But Cooper Rush, you would have thought that
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Speaker 1: he would have been better for the Ravens, but that's
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Speaker 1: not the reason the Ravens gave up 147 points on defense.
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Speaker 2: They are absolutely done. Done.
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Speaker 1: Harbaugh gave the vote of confidence for his defensive coordinator,
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Speaker 1: and that's nice of him, but the bottom line is,
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Speaker 1: The defensive coordinator is going to get fired first, and
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Speaker 1: then Harbaugh is going to get fired sometime around the
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Speaker 1: end of the year unless something drastic changes. This is
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Speaker 1: the team that we came into the year talking about
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Speaker 1: as maybe being the most talented in the league. Everything else, boom.
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Speaker 1: It's like they're not even there. It's like they're not
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Speaker 1: even there. I guess we would also say that the
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Speaker 1: next talented team most of us would have leaned into
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Speaker 1: would have been the Eagles, and they lost this game
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Speaker 1: to Denver.
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Speaker 2: Ryan, I don't know how much you watched of this game,
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Speaker 2: but this team is so weird.
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Speaker 1: I did not come out of that feeling like the
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Speaker 1: Broncos were a very good team. But the Broncos scored
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Speaker 1: 18 points in the fourth quarter to the Eagles scoring none.
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Speaker 1: And this same Eagles team that wouldn't throw.
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Speaker 2: The ball at all last week threw it 23 out
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Speaker 2: of 24 times in the second half?
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Speaker 3: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: 23 out of 24 times in the second half.
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Speaker 4: With a lead.
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Speaker 2: With the lead. With the lead.
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Speaker 1: And by the way, while they were throwing the ball
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Speaker 1: 23 out of 24 times in the second half, they
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Speaker 1: only scored seven points. They're up 17 to three going
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Speaker 1: into the fourth quarter. And all they did was throw
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Speaker 1: the ball. What are we doing here? Like that feels,
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Speaker 1: and you tell me if I'm, if I sound ridiculous,
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Speaker 1: because I don't want to pretend like what we do
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Speaker 1: in our world is truly that important. But that felt
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Speaker 1: like somebody doing something to prove a point to us.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a very bizarre thing with the Eagles because
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Speaker 4: both Saquon and Eagles offensive linemen have talked about how
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Speaker 4: hard that the last year was on them with all
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Speaker 4: the touches Saquon had, the attempt for the 2,000-yard season,
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Speaker 4: the wear and tear those offensive linemen had on their bodies.
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Speaker 4: But still, it's very bizarre. We've heard all these A.J.
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Speaker 4: Brown comments. And now they lose the game almost trying
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Speaker 4: to prove a point that they obviously didn't prove.
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Speaker 2: Do you see how many times they gave the ball
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Speaker 2: to running backs in this game?
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Speaker 4: I did not.
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Speaker 5: Nine.
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Speaker 2: Nine. Saquon Barkley had six carries. Six carries.
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Speaker 1: We got people who get in the chat on YouTube
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Speaker 1: or in the comments. And they see me as being
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Speaker 1: some sort of Philadelphia hater, which is weird. I don't
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Speaker 1: really have a a thought about Philadelphia in one direction
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Speaker 1: or the other I hate the Phillies but that doesn't
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Speaker 1: even come up on this show right you guys have
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Speaker 1: to like agree with what we're talking about right now
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Speaker 1: though there's no way in the world that you think
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Speaker 1: that what I'm talking about just hating on them there's
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Speaker 1: no way in the world that you came out there
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Speaker 1: look Say whatever you want about Jalen Hurts. He's not
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Speaker 1: the guy to drop back 38 times and for you
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Speaker 1: to run it nine with running backs. Like that, you
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Speaker 1: guys can't do that. Your team can't be that.
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Speaker 2: And again, It's not like Bo Nix was out here
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Speaker 2: setting the world on fire.
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Speaker 1: I did not think that he played well in that game.
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Speaker 1: I didn't think they did a particularly good job of
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Speaker 1: running the ball. I did not come out of this
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Speaker 1: with anything really, although I guess as the game went,
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Speaker 1: the Broncos defense got better.
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Speaker 2: But I didn't come out of this feeling like the.
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Speaker 1: Broncos did anything particularly well.
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Speaker 2: It just felt full on like the Eagles lost.
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Speaker 1: The game and they look like a team that has
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Speaker 1: some level of awareness within itself. that it is not
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Speaker 1: as good as its record indicates. Who have they beaten, okay?
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Speaker 1: The Cowboys that none of us think are good, even though, who, boy,
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Speaker 1: the Jets, do they stink. They beat the Brakes off
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Speaker 1: of them. The Chiefs that none of us are sure
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Speaker 1: are good. The Buccaneers who we just talk about keep
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Speaker 1: squeaking by everybody, but how good they are is debatable.
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Speaker 1: And I guess you'll give them the Rams, but we
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Speaker 1: just saw the Rams lose that game at home on
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Speaker 1: Thursday night, and nobody loses at home on Thursday night.
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Speaker 2: Like, what's there to feel good about with them right now?
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Speaker 2: I don't see it.
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Speaker 4: Do you think they're the constant shifting of the offensive coordinator?
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is the fourth one they've had in
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Speaker 4: four years. They had Shane Steichen, Brian Johnson, obviously, Kellen
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Speaker 4: Moore is now coaching sense. They have a new guy
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Speaker 4: in there now. This looks like a team without an
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Speaker 4: offensive identity and like a philosophy.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you sound like Lionel Richie.
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Speaker 1: They're a team with no direction, no purpose.
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Speaker 4: That comparison does not come up before. I'm not going
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Speaker 4: to lie to you.
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Speaker 3: No, no, no.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so yes, they've switched out coordinators every year since 2020.
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Speaker 1: The Doug Peterson year and then every year after that,
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Speaker 1: they've switched out coordinators. Some continuity, one would think, would
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Speaker 1: certainly help. What I find interesting about it is I
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Speaker 1: always felt like Brian Johnson got scapegoated in 2023 as
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Speaker 1: being whatever the problems.
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Speaker 2: Happen to be.
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Speaker 1: And then he goes and has a significant role in
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Speaker 1: Washington where Jaden Daniels looks very good that next year.
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Speaker 1: The theory that people have thrown out that I find
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Speaker 1: to be interesting is that in 2023, they opened it
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Speaker 1: up more for Jalen Hurts. And he turned the ball
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Speaker 1: over a lot more. And we saw what happened is
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Speaker 1: it all came apart at the end of that year.
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Speaker 1: Last year, they played a much more conservative brand of
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Speaker 1: football and they won the Super Bowl. So the approach
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Speaker 1: seemed to be, well, we will continue to play this
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Speaker 1: conservative brand of football and then we will go there.
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Speaker 1: I would say not to let the smooth taste fool
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Speaker 1: you about the game that they played against Denver in
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Speaker 1: that they did throw the ball a lot, but I
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Speaker 1: didn't feel like they were taking that many chances. They
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Speaker 1: got a couple of big plays at one really big
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Speaker 1: was 50 something yards to Devante Smith and another one
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Speaker 1: to a wide open Saquon Barkley. But again, they're not
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Speaker 1: willing to take any chances. And the truth is, if
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Speaker 1: you're not willing to take any chances and you're going
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Speaker 1: to throw the ball that many times, that's crazy. You
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Speaker 1: might as well run the ball because at least you
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Speaker 1: can inflict some punishment on the people on the other side.
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Speaker 2: But I don't... Look, guys. I know it's me.
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Speaker 5: Talking, okay?
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Speaker 1: I understand how it'll appear and what you'll think about
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Speaker 1: the fact that it's me that's the one that's saying
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Speaker 1: this right now. But you know as well as I
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Speaker 1: know who the best team in the NFC is right now.
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Speaker 1: It looked very clearly, once again, to be America's team,
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Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. When's the last time you watched the Eagles
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Speaker 1: and thought they looked as good as what we've seen
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Speaker 1: the Lions be the last couple of weeks?
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Speaker 2: Show it to them. Have you seen it?
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Speaker 1: Because I ain't seen it, okay? I have not seen it.
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Speaker 1: Everybody need to get ready. Watch out for these boys. Um,
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Speaker 1: speaking of watching out, I got something for you guys
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Speaker 1: to watch out for. I'm gonna just throw this out here.
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Speaker 1: And if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, but I'm just throwing
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Speaker 1: it out here and give you guys something to consider.
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Speaker 2: I got up in the morning and watched the game from, uh, London.
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Speaker 1: It was the Browns and it was the Vikings. It
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Speaker 1: was Dylan Gabriel's first start. Um, a friend of the
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Speaker 1: program who I will not name, uh, Ryan told me that,
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Speaker 1: Cleveland fans have been calling Dylan Gabriel Hawaii 5'9.
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Speaker 4: That's hysterical.
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Speaker 2: That's amazing.
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Speaker 4: That's just good quality work.
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Speaker 2: Bravo, right? Whoever came up with that one, I hope
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Speaker 2: you wrote it down. Like, you got to send that
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Speaker 2: to yourself in an envelope. You know what I'm saying?
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Speaker 4: I saw someone on the internet gave the nickname to
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Speaker 4: a different Cleveland Browns quarterback. there's prime time and then
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Speaker 4: there's mime time.
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Speaker 3: Yes.
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Speaker 1: I had not seen that. I had not seen that. Now, look,
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Speaker 1: maybe Dylan Gabriel could get better.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Dylan Gabriel looks like he's playing with his big brother's
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Speaker 1: friends out there. Like, he just doesn't seem like he
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Speaker 1: should be out there playing football. And what I'm saying
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Speaker 1: to watch out for is if this is the guy
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Speaker 1: that Shador Sanders can't even get into the conversation with,
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Speaker 1: and look, I understand that there's a possibility that part
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Speaker 1: of why he can't get into the conversation about playing
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Speaker 1: time and all of that is because of whatever preconceived
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Speaker 1: notions that the staff has and all of that.
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Speaker 2: Totally gets you, okay? I'm going to just say this, though.
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Speaker 1: Looking at the way that Dylan Gabriel looked in that game,
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Speaker 1: if Shador Sanders cannot get himself on the field, on
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Speaker 1: a team that Dylan Gabriel plays for, he needs to
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Speaker 1: leave the practice facility and go to the studio and
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Speaker 1: start rapping.
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Speaker 2: If he doesn't want to rap, you know what? Rapping's
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Speaker 2: a little too stereotypical. How about you just go do
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Speaker 2: a podcast?
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Speaker 5: Something.
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Speaker 1: But you're going to need to get on the mic.
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Speaker 1: Because this young man here is not going to play
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Speaker 1: no whole lot of NFL football. Like if they looking
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Speaker 1: at him and looking at you and they're like, it
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Speaker 1: would be preposterous for us to let you play.
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Speaker 2: But they let him play. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey.
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Speaker 1: You got a long way to go. Like all that,
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Speaker 1: all that talk he had about he's looking around the
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Speaker 1: rest of the league. He knows he's capable of it.
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Speaker 1: I don't know what you got to do to get there.
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Speaker 1: Because as of right now, they don't think you are
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Speaker 1: capable of being Dylan Gabriel. And I, if I were you,
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Speaker 1: I wouldn't be talking to nobody either. I wouldn't be
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Speaker 1: a mom. I'd be walking around there acting like a
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Speaker 1: couple of women I dated, just giving them the silent treatment.
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Speaker 1: Just not saying nothing to nobody. I'd be mad to
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Speaker 1: the motherfucker if he was telling me I can't do that.
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Speaker 1: And they are saying that loud and clear and they
16:48
Speaker 1: might be right.
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Speaker 2: All right.
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Speaker 1: I decided to take in some college football this weekend. Um,
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Speaker 1: Just want to throw this out here about the college
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Speaker 1: football right now. I recall with the advent of the playoff,
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Speaker 1: a lot of discussion about whether the playoff would ruin
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Speaker 1: things for college football.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think it has done that.
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Speaker 1: You know, and I have a fairly doom and gloom
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Speaker 1: outlook about a lot of the changes that are happening.
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Speaker 1: We call it a modernize or whatever it is. But
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Speaker 1: I don't think that the playoff has done anything to
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Speaker 1: mess up college football necessarily. I still think, and maybe
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Speaker 1: it's just because we're still caught up in the old,
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Speaker 1: I don't know if I would call it the old
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Speaker 1: ways of doing things, but just what a college football
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Speaker 1: game means. Maybe we're in a time period that is
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Speaker 1: a lag and this will change. But I still find
17:51
Speaker 1: myself very much viewing college football games.
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Speaker 2: Like one at a time.
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Speaker 1: I personally am not at a place where I think
17:59
Speaker 1: about playoff consequences really ever when somebody loses a game,
18:04
Speaker 1: especially not this early.
18:06
Speaker 2: I don't care.
18:06
Speaker 1: It's like even Penn State, which lost that game to UCLA.
18:11
Speaker 2: Does that eliminate them from the playoff? Yeah, I guess.
18:13
Speaker 1: But you know what else it does? They lost to
18:16
Speaker 1: a team that was 0-4. You know what it does?
18:19
Speaker 1: It stinks for them. That part of it is sufficient
18:23
Speaker 1: enough for me that I don't need to think about
18:24
Speaker 1: this in terms of any long-term consequences. And so it
18:28
Speaker 1: really got me to thinking about what goes on at
18:31
Speaker 1: this time of year. And And I don't know if
18:37
Speaker 1: this is a function of the playoff. I don't know
18:39
Speaker 1: where this comes from, but I very often feel like
18:41
Speaker 1: this time of year, what is often or should be
18:45
Speaker 1: interesting about it is the teams who win. And when
18:48
Speaker 1: I say the teams who win, you wind up with
18:51
Speaker 1: teams in this, like at this current time, like for example, Indiana,
18:57
Speaker 1: which apparently Ryan last year's Indiana is, I.
19:02
Speaker 2: Mean, this year's Indiana is Indiana.
19:05
Speaker 1: That seems to be the case, that what Indiana was
19:08
Speaker 1: last year is also Indiana this year?
19:10
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, they're top ten ranked. They're still doing.
19:15
Speaker 2: It somehow, some way.
19:16
Speaker 1: When they put that hurt to Illinois, like, that's the thing.
19:19
Speaker 1: It's not just that they're doing it. They're not just
19:21
Speaker 1: scraping by people.
19:22
Speaker 2: Like, we saw with Vanderbilt and Alabama, for example, over
19:25
Speaker 2: the weekend. They're not big enough.
19:29
Speaker 4: Correct.
19:29
Speaker 2: Like they just they didn't.
19:31
Speaker 4: Win the way they used to win. They just leaned
19:33
Speaker 4: on people.
19:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
19:34
Speaker 1: Like it was amazing that Vanderbilt played. I thought as
19:37
Speaker 1: good a game as you could ask for Vanderbilt to play.
19:39
Speaker 2: But I was out there. I'm like, yo, it's amazing
19:41
Speaker 2: you're doing as well as you guys are because you
19:43
Speaker 2: guys just aren't big enough.
19:44
Speaker 4: Right.
19:45
Speaker 2: You're not.
19:45
Speaker 1: Indiana looks like a Big Ten team right now. And
19:49
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be different right there. get like they were
19:51
Speaker 1: in the playoff last year where they played against Notre
19:52
Speaker 1: Dame and they looked a little bit overwhelmed or whatever. But.
19:57
Speaker 1: This time of year is often, like you go through
19:59
Speaker 1: the top tens, Ohio State, Miami at number two, Oregon,
20:02
Speaker 1: Ole Miss at number four, right? Like that is a
20:04
Speaker 1: team that becomes more interesting because Ole Miss is never
20:07
Speaker 1: at number four. Texas A & M at number five. Wow,
20:10
Speaker 1: I wonder how they're going to wind up getting back
20:12
Speaker 1: down to eight and four. Good gracious, it's going to
20:13
Speaker 1: take hard work. I'll never put it past them. But
20:18
Speaker 1: you look at teams that are surprisingly good and look
20:22
Speaker 1: at where they are.
20:23
Speaker 2: Like, oh wow, I can't believe that team won. They
20:25
Speaker 2: continue to go.
20:26
Speaker 1: This week, I was just fascinated by who lost and
20:30
Speaker 1: not just like simply.
20:31
Speaker 2: By who lost, but how it was.
20:34
Speaker 1: That these teams managed to lose and what the kind
20:37
Speaker 1: of consequences were of them losing. Like we could start
20:40
Speaker 1: with that Penn State game. I can't believe they lost
20:43
Speaker 1: that game.
20:44
Speaker 2: Penn State losing that game. I feel like, and I could.
20:50
Speaker 1: Be wrong about this, but for me, A number of reasons,
20:55
Speaker 1: some of them absolutely being James Franklin's fault. I think
20:59
Speaker 1: that he is a bit of an easy target. And
21:02
Speaker 1: I guess he has racked up that terrible record in
21:05
Speaker 1: those games against, you know, teams in the top 10,
21:08
Speaker 1: top 20, whatever it.
21:09
Speaker 6: Is, right?
21:09
Speaker 4: But this is a game he never loses.
21:11
Speaker 2: No, that's what I'm saying. These are the ones he wins.
21:13
Speaker 1: Like, Mack Brown was a guy like that, where you
21:15
Speaker 1: may not win the it could go either way games,
21:19
Speaker 1: but he's going to win the games that he's supposed
21:22
Speaker 1: to win.
21:23
Speaker 4: Losing a game as a 24-point favorite in college football
21:25
Speaker 4: is almost impossible.
21:27
Speaker 1: I mean, UCLA got blown out at the Rose Bowl
21:31
Speaker 1: by New Mexico.
21:33
Speaker 4: I think I saw a set they hadn't led all year.
21:37
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I understand that they change coaches and
21:40
Speaker 1: you get a boost or whatever that is, but that's
21:42
Speaker 1: a team that had a— And look, Penn State did
21:44
Speaker 1: not look bad in that game that they lost to Oregon.
21:47
Speaker 4: No.
21:47
Speaker 2: They went to overtime. They just lost, right?
21:50
Speaker 3: Yeah.
21:51
Speaker 1: They lost that game. And look, college kids, man, a
21:54
Speaker 1: game like that going to take something out of you.
21:57
Speaker 1: But it never dawned on me that they couldn't come
21:58
Speaker 1: back out here and beat UCLA.
22:00
Speaker 4: They were down 27-7 at half.
22:03
Speaker 2: How was that?
22:04
Speaker 3: Like.
22:04
Speaker 2: That's on the coach. And look, that's on the coach even.
22:08
Speaker 1: Understanding that there's certain limitations to what it is that
22:11
Speaker 1: the coach can do. But I don't know what anybody
22:14
Speaker 1: would have had to do to win a game to
22:15
Speaker 1: be more interesting than Penn State losing that game. Case
22:19
Speaker 1: in point, Miami looked really good against Florida State. And
22:21
Speaker 1: they look like, again, Cristobal taking the saving formula and
22:25
Speaker 1: applying it at Miami.
22:28
Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
22:29
Speaker 4: And also fixing Carson Beck. from all the struggles he
22:33
Speaker 4: had last year. And, you know, when he comes in,
22:35
Speaker 4: he almost looks like, you know.
22:36
Speaker 2: He looks like the number one pick in the draft. Right.
22:39
Speaker 1: Like, you look around at who the other quarterbacks are, and,
22:41
Speaker 1: you know, I had not seen much of that Mateer
22:43
Speaker 1: dude that transferred to Oklahoma. Carson Beck in that game
22:46
Speaker 1: looked like a guy that, I know what it looks
22:48
Speaker 1: like when you're going to take a guy number one
22:49
Speaker 1: in the draft. Like, the first time I saw Anthony
22:51
Speaker 1: Richardson play in college, I was like, I don't.
22:52
Speaker 2: Know how good he is, but I know he's going
22:54
Speaker 2: to make a lot of money.
22:56
Speaker 1: Right. Like, you know what a first round pick looks like.
22:58
Speaker 1: Carson Beck once again looks like a first round pick.
23:02
Speaker 1: But that's not as interesting as Franklin taking that L
23:05
Speaker 1: in that game or Belichick.
23:07
Speaker 2: My God. They could have scored 80 points against Carolina
23:13
Speaker 2: if they had wanted to.
23:15
Speaker 1: Did it feel to you like Dabo just decided, we
23:18
Speaker 1: go put the screws to him early just to show
23:20
Speaker 1: him that we.
23:20
Speaker 2: Can, but I'm Dabo's sweaty man of God. So, you know,
23:23
Speaker 2: I'm going to show some love.
23:24
Speaker 4: He looked like he was showing, he had to show
23:26
Speaker 4: forgiveness to himself for running up the score. They are
23:30
Speaker 4: so bad.
23:31
Speaker 1: Like, what's happening at Carolina, they got so much attention early.
23:35
Speaker 1: and they had planned for this game to get them
23:37
Speaker 1: a lot of attention. But it still did get a
23:39
Speaker 1: lot of attention, I think. Look, yes, it's a noon kick,
23:42
Speaker 1: but if you're flipping channels at noon and it's Clemson
23:45
Speaker 1: and Carolina and you know Belichick's there and you haven't
23:47
Speaker 1: been watching, hey, let me drop in here and see
23:49
Speaker 1: what's going on. Carolina did not have their starting quarterback,
23:52
Speaker 1: but there's no excuse for them to be this bad.
23:55
Speaker 1: And the only reason they're this bad is the reason
23:57
Speaker 1: that I tried to tell y'all was going to be
23:59
Speaker 1: the biggest issue with this team coming into the year,
24:01
Speaker 1: which is.
24:04
Speaker 1: Talent identification. What did Belichick get at the end in
24:09
Speaker 1: the NFL was he could not properly identify talent, and
24:14
Speaker 1: he made his general manager a guy who is a
24:17
Speaker 1: bad general manager in the NFL.
24:19
Speaker 2: They moved into this whole new world that they don't
24:21
Speaker 2: know anything about. And Ryan and I were reading this
24:24
Speaker 2: article earlier this week where an.
24:26
Speaker 1: Anonymous group of five head coach, and for those who
24:30
Speaker 1: don't know what we're talking about here, you got your
24:31
Speaker 1: Power Four conferences, and then the group of five are
24:34
Speaker 1: the other FBS conferences, but they're not Big 12, Big 10, SEC, ACC, right?
24:40
Speaker 1: And this dude was talking about how in recruiting, he
24:43
Speaker 1: lost out on a couple of players to North Carolina.
24:47
Speaker 1: And he was like, I'm telling you right now, any
24:49
Speaker 1: school from that level who is competing with us for talent,
24:54
Speaker 1: their teams are all going to be bad. These are
24:59
Speaker 1: like group of five level players. And Ryan, I looked
25:02
Speaker 1: at the depth chart. They're not even young. Like they
25:05
Speaker 1: brought in a lot of these transfers this year and
25:07
Speaker 1: it's a lot of juniors. It's a lot of seniors,
25:10
Speaker 1: a lot of redshirt junior, a lot of red. Like
25:12
Speaker 1: this is not a young team. This is not a
25:14
Speaker 1: team that you look at and you're like, oh, they're
25:15
Speaker 1: going to get better and they're going to improve. You
25:17
Speaker 1: go look at that too deep. That's a lot of grownups.
25:20
Speaker 4: And I mean, it's not that they're losing. It's that.
25:22
Speaker 4: They're losing. They paid Bill Belichick $ 10 million. And they
25:25
Speaker 4: can't keep the fans in the stands until the third quarter.
25:28
Speaker 3: No.
25:28
Speaker 2: And let me tell you something about North Carolina football fans.
25:31
Speaker 2: They become North Carolina basketball fans quick, fast, in a hurry. Like,
25:36
Speaker 2: it happens.
25:36
Speaker 1: And look, the basketball team ain't been making a field
25:39
Speaker 1: that good lately, but it ain't going to beat this shit.
25:42
Speaker 4: And, like, people criticize, you know, Deion. But Deion actually
25:47
Speaker 4: got players to come to Colorado, and he turned it around.
25:49
Speaker 6: He did.
25:49
Speaker 4: But they were winning. They're winning games. You look in
25:52
Speaker 4: the ACC, see what Fran Brown's doing in Syracuse.
25:55
Speaker 5: Yes.
25:55
Speaker 4: I mean, he comes in there immediately. He gets Ohio
25:58
Speaker 4: State's cast off, and they're throwing the ball around. I mean,
26:02
Speaker 4: you tell me that Bill Belichick can't do what Indiana's doing? Right.
26:07
Speaker 1: With a team, as Spencer pointed out, a bunch of
26:09
Speaker 1: dudes from James Madison.
26:11
Speaker 4: From the Sun Belt.
26:12
Speaker 2: Hey, he brought his old luggage. He brought his old luggage.
26:16
Speaker 2: It wasn't even Louie, but it's hold what you need, right? Now,
26:20
Speaker 2: you mentioned Deion.
26:22
Speaker 1: Deion is... We're not paying attention to that story anymore
26:25
Speaker 1: over there. But to me, it's much more interesting now.
26:30
Speaker 2: Now, there are.
26:30
Speaker 1: Ways that it is like... I don't want to say interesting.
26:34
Speaker 1: Deion was saying that he's got blood clots that are
26:35
Speaker 1: affecting him. I don't... His health has been an issue
26:41
Speaker 1: since he has become a coach, like all the way
26:44
Speaker 1: back to Jackson State.
26:46
Speaker 2: So there are....
26:48
Speaker 1: It is fair to ask the question about how much
26:50
Speaker 1: longer you expect him to continue to do this job
26:53
Speaker 1: because of how physically.
26:54
Speaker 2: I.
26:56
Speaker 1: Almost said that word doesn't feel right, but his body
26:59
Speaker 1: does not seem to be holding up well, and this
27:01
Speaker 1: is a very stressful job for a man to do.
27:04
Speaker 1: He is no longer coaching his son.
27:06
Speaker 4: Physically and mentally demanding.
27:08
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah.
27:09
Speaker 2: It's a lot.
27:10
Speaker 4: People, we always talk about the stress. college football coaches
27:16
Speaker 4: go through during their schedule. They're insane workloads. And that's
27:19
Speaker 4: not for people dealing with blood clots so bad. They're
27:21
Speaker 4: wearing one shoe on the sideline. Right, right.
27:24
Speaker 2: Like he's in a tough place. But let's say none
27:26
Speaker 2: of that was the case, right?
27:28
Speaker 1: Let's say that Deion Sanders was perfectly healthy. This team
27:32
Speaker 1: is not good. This team is probably not going to
27:36
Speaker 1: be one to make a bowl game.
27:40
Speaker 2: One of the points that you're seeing being.
27:41
Speaker 1: Made a lot about Belichick is Teams don't, you don't
27:45
Speaker 1: get time to be bad anymore, right? Like there was
27:49
Speaker 1: a time that Belichick could come in and say that
27:51
Speaker 1: he was overhauling the program and they can maybe go
27:53
Speaker 1: out here and be two and 10 and you give
27:55
Speaker 1: yourself a chance to rebuild and put it together. And
27:57
Speaker 1: that time wasn't really that long ago with NIL and
27:59
Speaker 1: the ability to go get people and get some bread
28:01
Speaker 1: and immediately restock that roster.
28:03
Speaker 2: People ain't waiting that long for you to figure this out.
28:06
Speaker 1: Now, to me, Colorado with Deion becomes interesting because, look,
28:11
Speaker 1: I don't know how anybody else feels about this, but
28:13
Speaker 1: I feel confident that if you give Deion Sanders a
28:15
Speaker 1: budget that is adequate and competitive with his peers, they're.
28:19
Speaker 2: Going to have a roster.
28:21
Speaker 7: Right.
28:22
Speaker 1: I don't know who all the people are that are
28:24
Speaker 1: doing the talent identification there or who are running his
28:27
Speaker 1: recruiting situation, but. Deion Sanders is a closer, and we
28:31
Speaker 1: have seen him close on some big recruits. We know
28:33
Speaker 1: he doesn't like doing the high school thing, but still,
28:36
Speaker 1: he's a guy that we feel like could.
28:37
Speaker 2: Go in there and get players if they are competitive, okay?
28:42
Speaker 1: Colorado's not going to fire Deion Sanders. He's been so
28:47
Speaker 1: good for them in so many ways. That will never happen.
28:51
Speaker 1: My question is, Deion Sanders had a fifth round pick
28:55
Speaker 1: at quarterback last year, receivers that are in the NFL,
28:59
Speaker 1: and Travis Hunter, a generational college football player. How likely
29:05
Speaker 1: is it that he's going to be able to put
29:06
Speaker 1: it together like that again on one roster? And if
29:09
Speaker 1: he doesn't put it together like that again on one roster,
29:12
Speaker 1: what is Colorado football.
29:14
Speaker 2: Going to be?
29:14
Speaker 1: Is anybody going to be happy if they are a consistent,
29:17
Speaker 1: call it six or seven win team?
29:19
Speaker 2: Because I got news for you.
29:21
Speaker 1: Colorado consistently winning six or seven games would be pretty good.
29:25
Speaker 1: I know that's not something that anybody would ever be
29:27
Speaker 1: satisfied with. And I know that they cannot continue to
29:30
Speaker 1: be like everybody's favorite Friday night attraction, probably under those circumstances.
29:36
Speaker 1: But at this point in time, Colorado is a six-win school.
29:42
Speaker 1: But how does it go with those people after they
29:44
Speaker 1: kind of got spoiled with how this started early? How
29:47
Speaker 1: does it go if they're a four-win team? How much
29:50
Speaker 1: and how well are people able to handle that? And
29:55
Speaker 1: so I had just been thinking all weekend about this,
29:58
Speaker 1: like how interesting it, how it becomes interesting in college football,
30:03
Speaker 1: the losses make you ask more questions so often and
30:07
Speaker 1: to speak to more things about what's going on. Like
30:10
Speaker 1: you think about this, for example, what was more interesting
30:14
Speaker 1: last year? Ryan Day winning a national championship or Ryan
30:19
Speaker 1: Day losing to Michigan? Ryan, the more that I talk
30:22
Speaker 1: about this, being a college football coach sounds awful. as
30:26
Speaker 1: a job there's no win that you can get to
30:28
Speaker 1: make me care about you as much as when you lose.
30:31
Speaker 4: I mean especially when you lose and again losing an
30:35
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30:44
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30:49
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30:52
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30:55
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Speaker 4: All right, Bo, let's get to some stories from the weekend.
33:38
Speaker 4: Sean Combs' ditty sentencing was Friday afternoon. He was sentenced
33:44
Speaker 4: to 50 months in prison. for prostitution-related offenses. You know,
33:49
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33:52
Speaker 4: salacious reasons. What was your reaction to this news?
33:55
Speaker 1: He thought that he was going to walk out of
33:59
Speaker 1: that courtroom on Friday and go back to B & D.
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Speaker 4: Amazing.
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Speaker 2: A-fucking-mazing.
34:10
Speaker 1: Like, the most interesting thing to me about OJ after
34:13
Speaker 1: the acquittal is by every account, OJ Simpson thought that
34:16
Speaker 1: since he had won the game, that he was going
34:19
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34:22
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34:25
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34:26
Speaker 2: They don't really want you around no more, right?
34:30
Speaker 1: Diddy was scheduling interviews. He really thought he was just
34:35
Speaker 1: going to walk out of jail. And he totally misunderstood
34:38
Speaker 1: that He was clearly overcharged, right? I think we'd all
34:43
Speaker 1: have to agree there. The Dave Chappelle lie that Diddy
34:46
Speaker 1: was in an enormous amount of trouble. This man was
34:48
Speaker 1: on trial for Rico by himself. That perhaps was a
34:51
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34:54
Speaker 1: bit out of hand. I just can't believe anybody on power,
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Speaker 1: positive thinking ass would have thought under those circumstances that
35:01
Speaker 1: they were.
35:02
Speaker 2: Not going to do any time at all.
35:07
Speaker 1: All them terrible letters that people was writing about you,
35:10
Speaker 1: and you thought you weren't going to do any time. No, no, no,
35:15
Speaker 1: big dog. He's going to do that time, and I
35:18
Speaker 1: hope he understands. Me and Joel talked about this before.
35:21
Speaker 1: There ain't going to be no you get introduced at
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Speaker 1: the Grammys and stand in ovation sort of situation. I
35:27
Speaker 1: don't I don't know what room it is that he's
35:29
Speaker 1: going to go into and get this like super reception.
35:32
Speaker 2: And Ryan, you and I talked about this before we
35:34
Speaker 2: started the show.
35:35
Speaker 1: I don't, if he thinks he's about to get a
35:37
Speaker 1: friendly interview with somebody, I don't know who he's going
35:39
Speaker 1: to get it with. Like maybe I don't think, I
35:42
Speaker 1: don't think he could get that on drink champs or
35:44
Speaker 1: Joe button on none of them either. I don't know
35:46
Speaker 1: where you think he bought to go. And everybody's been like, Hey,
35:47
Speaker 1: come on in and have a seat. Great to see people.
35:50
Speaker 4: Don't when people do things that are that publicly unseemly. Yes.
35:56
Speaker 4: Which I think is, The minimum way that these– like
35:59
Speaker 4: even at the most forgiving that what he's charged with
36:02
Speaker 4: can be described as. Like people don't want to be seen–
36:05
Speaker 4: people don't want to take pictures with you. People don't
36:07
Speaker 4: want to be seen with you. People don't want you
36:09
Speaker 4: at your– people don't go to these fancy events in
36:12
Speaker 4: their tuxedos to take pictures with Mr. Freakoff.
36:17
Speaker 1: No, he might have got away with it if this
36:19
Speaker 1: had happened when he was younger, right?
36:20
Speaker 3: Right.
36:21
Speaker 1: Like, I mean, it's like Chris, it's not like the
36:23
Speaker 1: stuff with Chris Brown never happened.
36:25
Speaker 7: Right.
36:25
Speaker 1: But he has found a lane and he navigate, he goes,
36:29
Speaker 1: he plays these big arenas, right?
36:30
Speaker 2: Like all of these things. Like he has a huge
36:32
Speaker 2: base there.
36:33
Speaker 4: He's, he's not blacklisted or canceled in any way. Correct.
36:35
Speaker 1: But when people find this out about you in your fifties,
36:37
Speaker 1: they ain't a lot of room for you to be redeemed.
36:41
Speaker 1: You know, like there's not like there's, there's no space
36:44
Speaker 1: for people to be.
36:44
Speaker 2: Like, okay, no, he'll, he'll that. Yes, that happened before. No, dog.
36:50
Speaker 1: That's not going to be it. I'm going to go
36:54
Speaker 1: home and I'm going to do interviews. The best thing
36:56
Speaker 1: that ever happened to him is that he didn't have
36:58
Speaker 1: to go do no interview with nobody. That would have
37:00
Speaker 1: been a disaster.
37:02
Speaker 4: Yeah. All right. And more legal news. Ex-Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez,
37:08
Speaker 4: also current Fox Sports commentator, was pepper sprayed and stabbed
37:11
Speaker 4: multiple times. during a late-night altercation with a truck driver
37:15
Speaker 4: in downtown Indianapolis this weekend. He was charged with battery
37:19
Speaker 4: with injury, public intoxication, unlawful entry of vehicle, all misdemeanors.
37:24
Speaker 4: There's a hearing on Tuesday morning. Bo, your thoughts.
37:27
Speaker 1: All right, so people need to understand the timing of it. Ryan,
37:30
Speaker 1: stay here with me on this time just to make
37:32
Speaker 1: sure I get this right. So the word got out on.
37:37
Speaker 1: I guess it was Sunday or something. It was Saturday.
37:40
Speaker 4: The incident happened Saturday morning. The word came out, started
37:44
Speaker 4: to come out Saturday.
37:45
Speaker 2: Saturday, okay.
37:46
Speaker 4: Because he was supposed to call a game today.
37:48
Speaker 5: Yes, yes.
37:48
Speaker 2: Okay, there we go. That is the time.
37:50
Speaker 1: So the word gets out on Saturday that Mark Sanchez
37:53
Speaker 1: has been stabbed.
37:54
Speaker 2: And you know what that means. First, you do the thoughts.
37:58
Speaker 2: Then you do the prayers, right?
38:00
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, Fox was putting out statements.
38:03
Speaker 5: Yeah.
38:03
Speaker 2: Right. A few people... With a little with a little
38:07
Speaker 2: with a little schism on their breath, jumped a little
38:09
Speaker 2: bit too fast. Right.
38:11
Speaker 4: And talking about a fatherless African-Americans.
38:14
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like they blamed it on
38:17
Speaker 2: black people for stabbing them.
38:18
Speaker 1: But then we got word from the Indianapolis police that
38:22
Speaker 1: Mark Sanchez had been stabbed and arrested. Which is a
38:28
Speaker 1: really unfortunate combination of things to be. Get stabbed and
38:34
Speaker 1: get arrested. And then they say they got video of
38:37
Speaker 1: all this that happened. but it's a delivery driver.
38:40
Speaker 2: And what he does is he's 69 years old and
38:44
Speaker 2: he picks up used cooking oil from places. So he
38:47
Speaker 2: had gone to pick up the used cooking oil from
38:50
Speaker 2: the Marriott in Indianapolis. That sounds like a horrific job, but.
38:55
Speaker 1: He was going to pick it up and something happened
38:57
Speaker 1: and Mark Sanchez ran up on him for reasons that
39:00
Speaker 1: we don't know.
39:01
Speaker 2: And the man is 69 years old. We want to
39:05
Speaker 2: say this again.
39:06
Speaker 1: And the way that that man talked about Mark Sanchez
39:09
Speaker 1: coming out of him, it sounded like the police report
39:12
Speaker 1: from an officer involved shooting.
39:14
Speaker 2: He was like, hey, man, I don't know what was
39:16
Speaker 2: going on with him.
39:17
Speaker 1: And the way that he was looking at me, but
39:19
Speaker 1: I realized that it was a life or death situation
39:24
Speaker 1: with Mark Sanchez.
39:29
Speaker 2: So at some point.
39:30
Speaker 1: He sprays Mark Sanchez in the eyes with pepper spray.
39:36
Speaker 1: Put a pin in that thought. Spray Mark Sanchez in
39:39
Speaker 1: the eyes with pepper spray. And then Mark Sanchez wiped
39:43
Speaker 1: it off and kept charging that buddy until he gets
39:47
Speaker 1: buddy on the ground.
39:48
Speaker 2: He starts roughing him up.
39:49
Speaker 1: And then my man said he had to stab Mark
39:52
Speaker 1: Sanchez a couple of times while he was on the ground.
39:55
Speaker 2: And then he had to stab him again after he
39:58
Speaker 2: got him off him.
39:59
Speaker 1: There are pictures that you can find of this 69-year-old man.
40:02
Speaker 1: And all I can say is I find it highly
40:05
Speaker 1: unlikely that Mark Sanchez will still be charged with misdemeanors
40:08
Speaker 1: when this was over.
40:09
Speaker 2: He fucked that old man up. He, he, he, he came.
40:16
Speaker 1: I will say this about Mark Sanchez. And whatever his
40:19
Speaker 1: future is, I don't have an answer. But I'm going
40:22
Speaker 1: to tell you this. If you are ever caught doing
40:25
Speaker 1: something or hemmed up doing something and people reasonably ask
40:29
Speaker 1: the following question, you think he was smoking dust? If
40:35
Speaker 1: what you've done has made people wonder if you were
40:37
Speaker 1: smoking dust, you ain't coming back from that, brother.
40:41
Speaker 2: Just so you understand that. You are not coming back
40:44
Speaker 2: from that.
40:45
Speaker 1: And I would also say that he got very lucky
40:48
Speaker 1: in the sense, things I learned this weekend, because look,
40:50
Speaker 1: I'm from Texas, okay?
40:52
Speaker 2: And there's a whole range.
40:53
Speaker 1: Of activities that in Texas people ain't really readily getting into.
40:57
Speaker 1: And it's like these right here for a very simple reason,
41:00
Speaker 1: which is we be shooting people. Now, I was positive
41:03
Speaker 1: that Indiana was a place that would allow you to
41:05
Speaker 1: do a concealed carry, but I went and searched it anyway.
41:08
Speaker 1: Not only can you do concealed carry in Indiana, you
41:11
Speaker 1: don't even have to get a permit. And Mark Sanchez
41:15
Speaker 1: is lucky that he ran up on a dude who
41:17
Speaker 1: in a life or death situation just goes to his
41:19
Speaker 1: pepper spray and his knife as opposed to the dude
41:22
Speaker 1: that goes to the tool. Because of the way this
41:24
Speaker 1: circumstance is being described, you would have got smoked and
41:28
Speaker 1: he would have got away with it.
41:29
Speaker 2: But instead, he hit you with pepper spray. Speaking of
41:35
Speaker 2: pepper spray, Ryan, I know.
41:38
Speaker 1: You've been anxiously anticipating this since I told you a
41:40
Speaker 1: little bit about what my thoughts were about this.
41:44
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was curious where you were going, and I
41:46
Speaker 4: can't wait to hear.
41:47
Speaker 2: Okay, so pepper spray. is like the underhand free throws
41:56
Speaker 2: of self-defense.
42:00
Speaker 4: As in everyone should use it because it's the most effective?
42:04
Speaker 2: So, so, so. Here's the thing about underhanded free throws.
42:07
Speaker 1: And it also dawned on me that some of you
42:09
Speaker 1: are maybe young enough that you don't really know what
42:11
Speaker 1: the story is on underhand free throws. But there was
42:13
Speaker 1: a guy back in the day named Rick Barry. Rick
42:16
Speaker 1: Barry was a very, very good basketball player. Rick Barry
42:19
Speaker 1: was one of the best white basketball players of all time.
42:22
Speaker 1: And people hate Rick Barry's guts. It is amazing how
42:26
Speaker 1: much people hate Rick Barry. It's just stunning, right? But anyway,
42:33
Speaker 1: Rick Barry, when he retired from the NBA, was the
42:37
Speaker 1: all-time leading leader in free throw percentage. And he shot
42:41
Speaker 1: free throws underhand. That's also known as shooting free throws
42:46
Speaker 1: granny style. You can look it up on the internet
42:48
Speaker 1: if you have not seen it before, but you will
42:51
Speaker 1: look at the way that those free throws are shot
42:54
Speaker 1: and you will say to yourself, man, I ain't about
42:56
Speaker 1: to do that shit, right? And so there have been
43:00
Speaker 1: a few legendarily poor free throw shooters over the course
43:05
Speaker 1: of NBA history who are also great players. Two that
43:08
Speaker 1: immediately jump out are Wilt Chamberlain and Shaquille O'Neal. Wilt
43:13
Speaker 1: Chamberlain tried everything when it came to shooting free throws,
43:16
Speaker 1: including underhand free throws, which as I have read, he
43:19
Speaker 1: was better at shooting free throws underhand than he was
43:21
Speaker 1: any other way. Shaquille O'Neal, for all of his free
43:24
Speaker 1: throw struggles, never went to shoot the free throws underhand.
43:28
Speaker 1: And Rick Barry would always make the point that none
43:30
Speaker 1: of these guys would shoot free throws underhand because they're
43:34
Speaker 1: afraid that it will make them look bad even though
43:38
Speaker 1: it is a truly effective method for shooting free throws.
43:42
Speaker 1: And he always speaks with a measure of judgment of
43:45
Speaker 1: the guys because they're just afraid that they're going to
43:49
Speaker 1: look bad. And other people will do the same thing
43:51
Speaker 1: and be like, it doesn't matter as long as you
43:53
Speaker 1: make the shots.
43:54
Speaker 2: Why are you so worried about looking bad?
43:56
Speaker 1: But if you didn't think that looking bad mattered at all,
44:01
Speaker 1: then you would tell a guy like Tim Duncan, who
44:03
Speaker 1: at points was a mere 60% free throw shooter.
44:06
Speaker 2: If you could go from.
44:07
Speaker 1: 60 to 80 as a free throw shooter just by
44:10
Speaker 1: shooting underhand free throws, you should do that, right? But
44:15
Speaker 1: nobody tells the 60% free throw shooter that he should
44:18
Speaker 1: do that. And you know why they never tell him that?
44:21
Speaker 2: Because they know that shit looks ridiculous. You understand what
44:26
Speaker 2: I'm saying?
44:26
Speaker 1: Like deep down inside of you. You know why they
44:30
Speaker 1: don't do that. You think that you should only shoot
44:34
Speaker 1: underhand free throws, literally, if nothing else works. And it
44:38
Speaker 1: is because you fundamentally understand that it looks ridiculous.
44:43
Speaker 2: Okay?
44:45
Speaker 1: So let's talk about pepper spray. Ryan, I've never known
44:50
Speaker 1: a man to walk around carrying pepper spray. Like this
44:53
Speaker 1: gentleman walks around carrying pepper spray.
44:56
Speaker 2: Never known it.
44:57
Speaker 1: But, We all acknowledge that pepper spray is an effective
45:03
Speaker 1: deterrent in the face of violence.
45:06
Speaker 2: Why?
45:06
Speaker 1: Because we view women as defenseless under these circumstances, right?
45:10
Speaker 1: I don't mean to insult or offend anybody, but that's
45:12
Speaker 1: how we talk about women. And we worry when women
45:15
Speaker 1: walk out in the dark and all of these things
45:17
Speaker 1: for good reason, right? And what do we send them
45:19
Speaker 1: out there with? We don't send them out there with guns.
45:22
Speaker 1: We don't send them out there with knives. We send
45:24
Speaker 1: them out there with pepper spray. You yourself feel like
45:29
Speaker 1: you can at least fight. You don't think that she
45:31
Speaker 1: can fight, but you feel like that pepper spray or
45:35
Speaker 1: that mace will do the job. If it would do
45:38
Speaker 1: the job for her, generally speaking, would it not do
45:43
Speaker 1: the job for a man?
45:45
Speaker 2: Maybe we could cut down on all these guns.
45:47
Speaker 1: That cats have on the street because you could protect
45:49
Speaker 1: yourself with this pepper.
45:51
Speaker 2: Spray, which again, we have acknowledged, we believe is effective.
45:56
Speaker 4: You know how effective pepper spray is? They send people
46:00
Speaker 4: out on it on hikes to protect them from bears. Correct.
46:04
Speaker 1: But can you imagine what you would say if you
46:06
Speaker 1: found out that your homeboy was out here in these
46:09
Speaker 1: streets hitting people with pepper spray? Stay away before I
46:13
Speaker 1: hit you with some mace. We would be so mean
46:16
Speaker 1: to that man. We would be so terrible to that man.
46:21
Speaker 1: Pepper spray is the underhanded free throw.
46:27
Speaker 2: Of self-defense.
46:29
Speaker 4: We gotta say you landed the plane. The seatbelt sign
46:36
Speaker 4: was on. I was concerned. But, you know, we took
46:41
Speaker 4: some bumps, but you ended it.
46:42
Speaker 2: It is an amazing thought.
46:45
Speaker 7: Why don't we all just walk around with pepper spray?
46:48
Speaker 7: We'd be all right if we all walked around with
46:50
Speaker 7: pepper spray. But we're not going to do that because
46:53
Speaker 7: we ain't about to be. We'd rather get robbed. We'd
46:56
Speaker 7: rather get pistol whipped.
46:58
Speaker 2: We'd rather get our asses kicked than to be like,
47:00
Speaker 2: hit him in the face with that pepper.
47:03
Speaker 4: And no one touched me yeah he he.
47:05
Speaker 2: Fell back after that now all of that said the
47:08
Speaker 2: counter argument in this case would be well.
47:10
Speaker 4: This is a one-time pepper spray was not so effective it.
47:13
Speaker 2: Did not take mark sanchez down which gets.
47:15
Speaker 4: Us back you can stop a bear but you can't
47:18
Speaker 4: stop mark sanchez right.
47:19
Speaker 2: Which gets me back to the other thing.
47:22
Speaker 1: It's not good when your behavior makes us ask the
47:26
Speaker 1: question damn boy you've been smoking dust.
47:35
Speaker 4: All right, we're going to shift gears here. ESPN and
47:39
Speaker 4: The Athletic have reported the Big Ten is discussing a
47:41
Speaker 4: $ 2 billion deal with private equity. This would include a
47:45
Speaker 4: 10-year extension of the league's grant of rights. The private
47:48
Speaker 4: capital deal and the grant of rights extension have been
47:50
Speaker 4: discussed for months in multiple forms. There is support from
47:54
Speaker 4: nearly the entire league, with a few of the biggest brands,
47:57
Speaker 4: including Ohio State and Michigan, still in discussions. They want
48:00
Speaker 4: to get unanimous support before a vote. Bo, what were
48:04
Speaker 4: your thoughts when you heard this?
48:05
Speaker 1: Remember that time private equity made something better?
48:13
Speaker 2: What else is there to say, right?
48:16
Speaker 1: Nobody remembers that time that private equity made... Private equity
48:20
Speaker 1: helps private equity.
48:22
Speaker 2: Those are the only people.
48:24
Speaker 1: I can't believe these people are so thirsty for money
48:26
Speaker 1: that they can't acknowledge that very basic point. This is
48:30
Speaker 1: a mechanism for properties that are in distress. Does the
48:34
Speaker 1: Big Ten look like it's in distress to you?
48:37
Speaker 4: The Big Ten is getting money from Fox, CBS, NBC.
48:42
Speaker 4: They have their own network.
48:44
Speaker 2: Yes.
48:44
Speaker 4: And they could go to these TV places and get
48:48
Speaker 4: more money for their rights at any time. And, I mean,
48:52
Speaker 4: they always have, you know, the break glass case for
48:55
Speaker 4: Merge Guard of trying to go get Notre Dame.
48:57
Speaker 1: Yes, and they've already killed off competition other than the
49:01
Speaker 1: SEC in– So many ways, right? Like they've done this.
49:07
Speaker 1: The problem to me with bringing something like private equity in,
49:11
Speaker 1: and I probably said, if I haven't said this year before,
49:13
Speaker 1: I'm sure I've said it in other places, but the
49:15
Speaker 1: problem is that this is not a profit maximizing industry.
49:19
Speaker 2: This is, people are in this for fun.
49:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's money that needs to be made in order
49:25
Speaker 1: to keep putting money back in, in order to keep
49:26
Speaker 1: things competitive. But people blow money on this. People give
49:30
Speaker 1: money away to make this happen. Private equity is in
49:33
Speaker 1: it to get their money back. This crazy world doesn't
49:38
Speaker 1: work Like that. The interest of all these things are incompatible.
49:43
Speaker 1: And then we get back to what I said before.
49:45
Speaker 1: Remember that time private equity made something better? Because I don't.
49:50
Speaker 4: And finally, Dave Chappelle made some comments that made news
49:54
Speaker 4: while headlining Saudi Arabia's comedy festival on Saturday. He made
49:59
Speaker 4: some controversial remarks. Right now in America, they say if
50:02
Speaker 4: you talk about Charlie Kirk, you get canceled. I don't
50:04
Speaker 4: know if that's true, but I'm going to find out.
50:07
Speaker 4: It's easier to talk here than it is in America. Bo,
50:10
Speaker 4: your thoughts.
50:12
Speaker 2: I cannot.
50:15
Speaker 4: Believe.
50:17
Speaker 1: I can't believe that these super rich people went to
50:19
Speaker 1: Saudi Arabia.
50:20
Speaker 2: Just to get this check.
50:22
Speaker 1: Right. Like you have to understand the way that this
50:25
Speaker 1: is going to undercoat whatever it is that you say
50:28
Speaker 1: about yourself upon your return.
50:30
Speaker 2: Like, am I crazy?
50:32
Speaker 1: I can't be the only person that sees how you're
50:34
Speaker 1: just setting, like Bill.
50:35
Speaker 2: Burr, remember that routine? I don't know if it was
50:37
Speaker 2: a routine, but Bill Burr.
50:38
Speaker 1: Talked about Beyonce and basically how she's just all in
50:41
Speaker 1: it for the capitalism and everything else.
50:42
Speaker 2: And I'm like, brother, you just did this. You just like,
50:47
Speaker 2: you can't, you can't.
50:51
Speaker 1: Ryan, I feel like I'm not making sense because it
50:53
Speaker 1: just feels so obvious that this is such a ridiculous thing.
50:56
Speaker 4: I mean, I sort of get it for people like
50:59
Speaker 4: Louis C.K., who are, you know, kind of sort of
51:02
Speaker 4: ostracized from popular society. But Dave Chappelle is still selling
51:06
Speaker 4: out arenas. He's still putting out, you know, Netflix specials. Yeah.
51:10
Speaker 2: And how about this?
51:12
Speaker 1: You could go over there and feel like you could
51:14
Speaker 1: talk about Charlie Kirk and you couldn't talk about Charlie
51:17
Speaker 1: Kirk in America.
51:18
Speaker 2: Okay.
51:19
Speaker 1: You know who you could talk about in America that
51:20
Speaker 1: you can't talk about in Saudi Arabia?
51:22
Speaker 2: The crown prince. That's who.
51:26
Speaker 1: What none of them allowed to make no jokes about
51:29
Speaker 1: the government. over there or to make jokes about the play.
51:33
Speaker 1: That was not on the board. So I feel freer
51:36
Speaker 1: to talk about this than I do in America. Saudi
51:39
Speaker 1: people feel freer to talk about they shit in America
51:41
Speaker 1: than they do over there.
51:42
Speaker 2: What is your point? You see what I mean? Like,
51:46
Speaker 2: it's not, you're not going to make me believe.
51:48
Speaker 1: And I have been someone who has no problem being
51:50
Speaker 1: critical of my own country because I think you earned
51:52
Speaker 1: the right with citizenship to be able to do that.
51:55
Speaker 1: Hey man, you're not going to tell me that they
51:57
Speaker 1: free you over there than over here. You're not selling
52:01
Speaker 1: me on this. You're not doing it. And so to go,
52:05
Speaker 1: maybe I need to hear the tone of the routine, right?
52:07
Speaker 1: Maybe I just don't understand what exactly it was. But
52:11
Speaker 1: I was a bit revolted by some of the people
52:15
Speaker 1: that just couldn't pass up that money.
52:16
Speaker 4: All these people who go and talk on and on
52:19
Speaker 4: about free speech and cancel culture go and praise the
52:23
Speaker 4: crown prince of Saudi Arabia is just going to leave.
52:26
Speaker 4: a poor taste. No.
52:28
Speaker 1: And some of you, it's going to interfere with the
52:29
Speaker 1: way your work lands. Cause I ain't really trying to
52:31
Speaker 1: hear that shit from.
52:32
Speaker 4: All right, Bo, the voicemail line is open. We got
52:40
Speaker 4: a few good ones. Here's our first.
52:42
Speaker 5: All right.
52:43
Speaker 6: Hello. Thank you very much for the pod. First of all,
52:46
Speaker 6: it gets me through my day sometimes, but Mr. Jones
52:50
Speaker 6: and cast, I would just like to ask, when do
52:53
Speaker 6: you know you've had enough of a city? when do
52:57
Speaker 6: you know it's time for you to take your next venture, uh,
53:01
Speaker 6: and your next jump in life?
53:04
Speaker 3: I'm in Tampa, like Tampa.
53:08
Speaker 5: Um, and when do you know you're ready to go
53:12
Speaker 5: to New York? I guess that's a whole second question.
53:16
Speaker 5: All right.
53:17
Speaker 4: Peace and love.
53:18
Speaker 5: And again, thank you for the pod.
53:21
Speaker 2: Brother.
53:21
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. Um, The biggest way
53:24
Speaker 1: that you know you're ready for New York is if
53:26
Speaker 1: you have received a raise. That's the pick when you
53:33
Speaker 1: talk about coming to New York. I'll tell you this
53:35
Speaker 1: about New York, too. Ryan, you live here about as
53:39
Speaker 1: long as I have. The thing about New York is
53:41
Speaker 1: Don't come up here because you like it. You're not
53:43
Speaker 1: going to stay if you like it. You're not going
53:45
Speaker 1: to stay if you really like it. You got to
53:46
Speaker 1: love it.
53:47
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to be committed.
53:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a decision. It'll pay off in
53:52
Speaker 2: a whole lot of different ways.
53:54
Speaker 1: But I feel like I've generally left cities when something
53:59
Speaker 1: work-wise took me to another place. I can't pretend my
54:03
Speaker 1: decisions on when to do those things was really that
54:06
Speaker 1: voluntary about me taking things by the way. I wanted
54:09
Speaker 1: to be in New York when I came here, but
54:11
Speaker 1: it was a lot of circumstances that brought it together.
54:14
Speaker 2: But I do know what it's like when you feel
54:16
Speaker 2: like you've outgrown a city, right?
54:19
Speaker 1: Where it's just like, I can't, can you still do
54:22
Speaker 1: the things that you want to do in that city?
54:25
Speaker 1: Can you achieve the goals that you want to reach
54:27
Speaker 1: while staying in that city, right? Like, does it challenge you?
54:31
Speaker 1: Does it excite you? Does it, does it, make you
54:34
Speaker 1: a better person. Like, what about being in that place
54:37
Speaker 1: makes it good for you? You know, so especially if
54:40
Speaker 1: you're a person with a family, then we're having a
54:41
Speaker 1: different discussion, right? Because you're doing math on a lot
54:44
Speaker 1: of other things. But if you're not, what are you
54:47
Speaker 1: getting from being in that city? And if the thing
54:49
Speaker 1: you're getting primarily out of it is just comfort, then
54:52
Speaker 1: you need to ask yourself, is there someplace that could
54:54
Speaker 1: challenge you a little bit more?
54:55
Speaker 4: All right, Bo, here's our next one.
54:57
Speaker 5: Hey, Bo. What's up, y'all?
55:00
Speaker 3: This is Evan from Hawaii. Um, I just want to
55:04
Speaker 3: say that I got to ask a question because I
55:08
Speaker 3: currently work in a space where the person who is
55:11
Speaker 3: like the leadership of my organization is someone that feels
55:16
Speaker 3: extremely underqualified to be in their position and not like, oh,
55:21
Speaker 3: they're just kind of maybe not, they didn't hit all
55:24
Speaker 3: the wickets.
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Speaker 4: No, I mean like I've.
55:27
Speaker 3: Been doing my thing for seven years, you know, active
55:31
Speaker 3: duty and and I'm in a position where I know
55:34
Speaker 3: I'm not the top dog, but I've seen a thing
55:37
Speaker 3: or two. This person is somehow above everybody, and their
55:42
Speaker 3: experience is basically the equivalent of that of my first
55:46
Speaker 3: two years in the Navy, in the military, and yet
55:50
Speaker 3: they're somehow able to make decisions on people cutting checks.
55:55
Speaker 3: I'm not really sure how far I can go. I'm
55:59
Speaker 3: not going to say names per se, but Let's just
56:02
Speaker 3: say if this person has no haters, then I'm dead.
56:05
Speaker 5: All right.
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Speaker 3: That being said, I got to ask from your perspective.
56:12
Speaker 2: Is he asking me if he needs to quit his job?
56:15
Speaker 4: How do you do with a terrible boss?
56:22
Speaker 1: Can you apply for a job somewhere else? Did he
56:25
Speaker 1: say he was in the Navy? Is there another Navy
56:27
Speaker 1: that you could apply to?
56:29
Speaker 4: I'm not sure how that works if they're secondary navies.
56:33
Speaker 2: No, no, no.
56:35
Speaker 1: That is always a tough one, though, when you are
56:37
Speaker 1: working for somebody that you don't respect, basically, whose judgment.
56:42
Speaker 2: You're not able to trust.
56:44
Speaker 1: And the only solution is to go find another place
56:46
Speaker 1: to work. What you see is not going to change. Now,
56:50
Speaker 1: unless you want to set up some elaborate plan to
56:52
Speaker 1: get that person fired, which I do not recommend, you
56:55
Speaker 1: just got to go work somewhere else.
56:57
Speaker 4: All right, Bo, here's our last one.
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Speaker 5: Hey, Bo, this is Greg in Georgia. And we all know,
57:05
Speaker 5: everyone who listens to your show, know that you are
57:08
Speaker 5: a print scholar of sorts. And I wanted to ask you,
57:12
Speaker 5: I don't know if you brought this up on your
57:13
Speaker 5: show before, about the Purple Rain musical. I wonder if,
57:22
Speaker 5: I feel like we're in the era that Prince's legacy
57:25
Speaker 5: is being a little bastardized. So with the Purple Rain
57:30
Speaker 5: musical coming to Broadway, I think this is going to
57:34
Speaker 5: be a flop. But I want to know your take
57:38
Speaker 5: on it, if you're even a Broadway person. But the
57:44
Speaker 5: film being translated to the stage, I don't know if
57:48
Speaker 5: it's going to work. Just want to know what you think.
57:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the estate does a lot of things that
57:54
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily like. I think Purple Rain going to
58:00
Speaker 1: Broadway is a reasonable transition and basically in line with
58:06
Speaker 1: the activities of a lot of acts in this fashion.
58:11
Speaker 1: Like there's the Michael Jackson Broadway show, for example.
58:15
Speaker 5: Like....
58:17
Speaker 1: I don't think that the idea of moving this is
58:21
Speaker 1: a bastardization of the legacy.
58:23
Speaker 2: I don't think that.
58:25
Speaker 1: The music will be interesting, and the bands they put
58:28
Speaker 1: together to get all that done, all that's fine. My
58:30
Speaker 1: question is this. When is the last time you guys
58:34
Speaker 1: watched Purple Rain? And the reason I ask when is
58:37
Speaker 1: the last time you watched Purple Rain is that that
58:40
Speaker 1: is a somewhat indefensible script.
58:44
Speaker 3: Um.
58:45
Speaker 1: Many of you have probably read about my buddy Ezra
58:48
Speaker 1: Edelman directed a documentary on Prince that was supposed to
58:52
Speaker 1: run on Netflix. And a significant part of the movie,
58:58
Speaker 1: I have not seen it myself, was about Prince being
59:01
Speaker 1: violent toward women. Jill Jones is an example that immediately
59:05
Speaker 1: jumps out. And the estate put the kibosh on it
59:09
Speaker 1: coming out. And Ezra's thing was he felt like he
59:12
Speaker 1: was humanizing his subject, but more or less it was
59:15
Speaker 1: an exploration of the man in totality. I understand completely
59:20
Speaker 1: why it is that the estate would not have wanted
59:23
Speaker 1: that to come out. But the only thing I stopped
59:25
Speaker 1: and thought about was, well, goddamn, y'all already made a
59:28
Speaker 1: movie about this and it made him a superstar. Like,
59:31
Speaker 1: we don't really talk about how crazy the idea of
59:33
Speaker 1: A Higher Purple Rain is. It's this guy who writes
59:37
Speaker 1: these songs that nobody likes.
59:38
Speaker 2: Except in real life, they are smash hits.
59:41
Speaker 1: But he's got all this music that nobody likes, except
59:45
Speaker 1: he's got this bad habit because his dad used to
59:48
Speaker 1: beat his mom that he then puts hands on his girl.
59:52
Speaker 1: And then finally he has one last chance where he's
59:55
Speaker 1: about to hit her again.
59:56
Speaker 2: And then she's like, go ahead and hit me. I
59:57
Speaker 2: dare you.
59:58
Speaker 1: And then he decides not to hit her. And then
1:00:01
Speaker 1: he goes and plays Purple Rain. And that shit is
1:00:04
Speaker 1: so fire that we completely forget that he had been
1:00:07
Speaker 1: beating his girl the whole movie and everything is okay.
1:00:09
Speaker 2: And everybody dances. Maybe that's an.
1:00:12
Speaker 1: Unfortunate metaphor for how all of this stuff works, but
1:00:15
Speaker 1: that was what.
1:00:16
Speaker 2: That movie was. It is amazing that it became the
1:00:20
Speaker 2: movie that it.
1:00:21
Speaker 1: Did in terms of pop culture and everything else, because
1:00:23
Speaker 1: when you stop and think about it, what crazy ideas
1:00:26
Speaker 1: they are putting forth, even though in many cases it is.
1:00:28
Speaker 2: How it works.
1:00:29
Speaker 1: But there's nothing heroic or heartwarming at all about that.
1:00:34
Speaker 1: I am not exactly sure how people want to see
1:00:37
Speaker 1: that on Broadway. Like, You're basically taking the Tina Turner musical,
1:00:43
Speaker 1: except it's not, it's the same exact musical, except it's
1:00:46
Speaker 1: not about her, it's about Ike. Who wants to see that?
1:00:52
Speaker 1: But ladies and gentlemen, It'll be a really hard transition there.
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