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to this morning, let me start by saying a bit of a change in
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program, and I had plan to have on Dela Ga Daniel Linville on the
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show this morning, not only to talk about the special session, but some
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things he and some others are doing trying to get areas of Cable Mason and
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other areas ready for the influx of all these people that are heading into the
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area due to new Core in Apple Grove. And does have a tendency to
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happen when you're dealing with the legislature, particularly a special session, things tend
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to get moved around a bit. So Dela Lynville now finds himself in a
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meeting this morning, but never fear, we do have a suitable replacement who
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won't be talking on the same subjects, but some other things in his mind,
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and it's always fun to talk to him. Senator Rupy Phillip is going
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to get to him here in just a couple of moments. Plus big story
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of course, lots of action from the Charleston City Council meeting last night.
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Is council voted not to allow the Women's Health Center to go forward with their
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plans for a needle exchange program on the West Side. We'll get to that
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a little later. Plus we need more. Plus there were some some members
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on the council that have been calling for an independents investigation into the Chief Tai
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Kun situation. That call for that independent investigation was also voted down by city
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Council last night. We're going to talk about that. Plus there's a new
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outdoor drama attempting to tell the story of Cole in the early days of West
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Virginia. We'll get to that a little bit later on, as well.
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As you could tell, we are loaded up. Let's get right to the
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show. Let's bring in Senator Rupy Phillips from the State Capitol this morning.
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Good morning, senator, how are you very good? State yourself? I
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am doing fine. I can tell by the sound that you are actually at
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the Capitol as we speak right, Yes, sir, I am. I
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can tell by the marble hollowness of the sound there today three of the special
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session. What have you been working on particular, Senator, Well, you
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know, Dave, you know, the state has come up with a large
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number of excess revenue and if we don't make a move on it, it's
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all I want to go into Rainy Day fund. And you don't won't be
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able to uh put money, put the money where it needs to be.
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So, you know one thousand and one bill that were passing over to the
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House, it's very critical to move on all the other bills so we can
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get you know, one hundred and fifty millen into roads, one hundred and
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seventy five men into the U to fully fund the consolidated labs and everything.
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You know, I was talking to a buddy of mine, oh last week,
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and he was at the Medical Examiner's office and he just said, he
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said, Rupe's it's like a horror film how bad the building is and just
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it needs redone, it it needs moved. So hopefully, you know,
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we get this three hundred million dollars into the new consolidated labs and and move
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forward where we're stay to the art. And you know, people ain't trying
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to get their death certifticates. You know that's taken a year or better to
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get them, and you know, get the autopsies done and everything processed faster
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through all the agencies that need laps. You were talking with the Senator Rupie
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Phillips. Are we going to make any ground at all on corrections up?
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You know, we had corrections in uh UH Senate Finance yesterday evening and Commissioner
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Marshall was there, and you know, they've had a tough time getting people
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to come to work, and you know they're competing against the state police,
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the UH County sheriffs, the city police, you know, all the other
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like that. It's hard to recruit for COO ones and CO twos. And
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you know a few years ago we threw ten thousand dollars raised to everybody and
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they hired a bunch and you know, within a year I forgot what the
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number was, but it was a lot of people that applied and went through
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the academy of sixteen thousand plus per person and you know for the training.
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Well then they didn't stay with JAW. So you know, we're just there's
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things that that was worked out in meetings and leading up to special Session to
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try to correct that and to recruit the people that's going to stay with the
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correction you know, and and hopefully get the National Guards whether or not happen
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to come to the jails and help man the you know, fulfill the man
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power that's that's needed for all the corrections. Yeah, I agree with that
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because that's not that's not what they're supposed to be doing, but sometimes they
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are always willing to step up. Again, we're talking with State Senator Rupy
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Phillips. I'm gott to pick your brain on something here. You went in
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the legislature for some time one year where you first elected to the House.
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I was elected in two thousand and ten, first session was two thousand and
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eleven, and then my last House session was two thousand and eighteen, and
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then elected to the Senate in twenty and first session in the Senate twenty one.
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So so you served, as I said, As you said, you
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served in the House and later in the Senate, so so you understand being
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in the minority as well as the majority. Now, you were originally a
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Democrat, but we're really one of the first of the legislature to switch parties.
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Back in the day, you were kind of doing it before it was
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cool. I first want to ask you, I guess about the good problems
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to have I guess, and that would be the excess funds, which you've
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you've kind of covered on that a little bit. But I also want to
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talk about about the switching parties thing. Now, as I stated, you
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were one of the first to do it. And now there are so many
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people that are fleeing the Democratic Party that it doesn't seem to be even a
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big deal. It hardly even makes noise anymore. I remember when you did
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it, Daniel Hall, some of the others that it was, you know,
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front page stuff. Now you hear these rumors that so and so is
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switching from Democrat to Republican, and it's like, well, it's just another
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day. They're all doing it. County officials are doing legislators, mayors all
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leaving the Democratic Party. Last week, on hoppy a delicate Doug scath announced
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he's going to be stepping down as Minority leaders soon. Speculation on many fronts
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as he's going to switch to Republican and may even announce a run for another
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office, perhaps Secretary of State. About the party switches, what do you
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what do you make of all this? And the reason that I ask is
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actually twofold Senator one is why are they all doing it? But number two,
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there have been several within the Republican Party. While they liked the numbers,
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some are saying that people should be wary of all these people that are
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suddenly switching parties, So why are they switching? And do Republicans of power
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need to kind of be a little bit cautious about all these people that are
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switching. Well, they let me go back when I first was elected,
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and you know, you being from Logan County yourself, you know, everybody
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was Democrats and we didn't really agree with the national Party of the Democrats,
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but we were all Democrats. Our grandparents or parents, our friends, everybody
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was Democrats. But when I got elected and come over here to Charleston,
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and I started just seeing and things and paying attention to what you know,
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they believed here in Charleston at the Capitol, and on my I just shook
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my head a lot. And finally when the third debate of Trump and Hillary
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Clinton, and you know just so happened that session before Kayla Cassenger stood up
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and give a speech on a bill on dismemberment abortion, and she went step
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by set and then when Trump called Hillary Clinton out on the h that she
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supports thirty six and a half week dismemberment abortion, and she didn't blink.
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That's that was it. I could not be a Democrat no more. I
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just I had to get rid of it. I think as far as you
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talking about people changing parties, now, I think a lot of people just
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didn't want to believe what the National Party was doing. I mean, you
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even look at the state Party here now on the stuff that they're supporting,
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the transgender these the boy walking into a women's bathroom, I'm sorry you.
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I got a thirteen year old daughter. You walk in on my daughter when
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she's in a bathroom, we got issues. So so you know, I
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still believe old school and I'm not gonna I'm not going to change to accommodate
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someone else. I'm me. I'm not going to change nothing to satisfy nobody.
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I'm I'm happy with what I am. And but I think the voters,
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that's the ones you got to pay attention, you know, the ones
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that are going to be changing parties. That why they're changing. You know,
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day back and when I changed in twenty sixteen, I had no intentions
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of running for six in US. But you know that's a whole nother story
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within itself. But but I think the voters, the voters are the ones
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that needs to make that decison. Is that is that who I want represented
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me in Charleston or in a County Clerk's office kind of commission. That's that's
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their decision. I don't think it's any elected officials. This is just my
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personal opinion. I don't think it's any elected official too set in and and
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cat stones at somebody if they changed, because it's you know, I've got
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friends that have changed, and and I've encouraged some of my friends to change.
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So if they try to bring the same values that the Democrat Party is
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putting out there to the Republican Party, then that's when we got problems and
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we got to pay attention to that. And again, I think that's the
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voters can make that decision. Well, and you're not someone that's changed anything.
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I mean, I've known I've known you since literally we were we were
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kids, and the time that you got into politics, I mean, you
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know you You've always been what would be labeled a true conservative, god pro
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guns, procole checking all the boxes and then some and I guess. I
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guess and talking to some of the state leaders among the Republican Party that I
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do from time to time that they seem to have a little bit of it.
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Look like I said it was a big deal back when it was done
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years ago when people like you know yourself and a few others did it.
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But now it's just people are just seemed to be switching and right, and
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that's their right, you know, don't get me wrong, but but there
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are some within the Republican Party that have told me that they have issues on
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everyone all, you know, suddenly changing parties. Well, you know,
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Harry Keith Watt made a comment to me when we both were in the House,
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and he said, southern West Virginia Democrats are god fearing, Bible something,
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gun toting Democrats and if you give them a test and not tell them
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what kind of cash you're giving them, they would be labeled as a conservative.
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And right now the Democrat Party is not show that they are conservatives.
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They're they're all about giving free money away. You know, it's sad days
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that we've come to a society that the harder you work, the more you
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get punished. You know, But if you don't get a job, if
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you and you know, I know there's some people out there that physically,
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health wise, whatever, they can't get a job. And that's why I
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mean, I'm I'm all about helping people, but sometimes they you've got to
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help yourself. And you know, I've just had this conversation yesterday with someone
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there's a reason that you see signs in parks and stuff that says don't feed
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the bears. Well, you think about it, Dave. If we continue
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to give money away, get money away, what are we doing to encourage
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people to work? I mean so, and you know it's you know,
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it's like when these kids, these these ball teams and cheerleading and all them.
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I think it's great. Orts is phenomenal, But I don't think if
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we just go out there and show the kids, if you bum for money,
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then you don't have to work. I would rather see hot dog sales,
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bake sales, spaghetti dinners, all of this to raise the money and
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show the kids put some effort in it to earn your money. And you
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know, but that's just me. That's just me days, Senator Phillips,
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I know you've got to get back to work. Special session is going to
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continue today. We'll be following atwv Metronews dot com and Jeff and the team
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are on top of it. You get back to work, man, We'll
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talk again soon. Thanks a lot, all right, Thanks day, Senator
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says the don't feed the bears metaphors should be applied to corporate subsidies. Two
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Where's the effort to earn money there. Uh, what the heck, I'm
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going to just change it because somebody got on me for using foul language at
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one point, So what the heck is wrong with group you phillips? He
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can unilaterally choose the president according to a texture. Anyone that knows me knows
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how passionate I am about coal and the history of the industry of much.
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Now, there's an outdoor drama being presented in Logan County, my native land,
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at the lisper like Amphitheater Chief Logan State Park this Friday through Sunday for
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the next two weekend, and it's called Cole The story of a Family in
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the Shadow of a War, and it focuses on the early days of the
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Colon District, particularly things like Blair Mountain, the Blair Mountain Wars, so
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on and so forth. Jason McCoy is one of those involved with the production
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and he joins us now via the Bigglely Pigley Wiggly Hideline. Jason, Good
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morning, welcome to the show. Thank you, Dave. For the first
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time, I may be nervous on a phone call because it's so important to
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get this right. Well, I appreciate you being here. What is your
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tide of the show exactly? Well, I'm an actor in the show.
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I played the role of Jake Coleman, who the stories you know, it's
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about Jake Coleman and his family starts in about nineteen eleven and up through nineteen
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twenty one in the Battle of Blair Mountain. And the story is written and
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correct me if I'm wrong by a fantastic lady that I've literally known since I
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was a child, because I actually went to elementary school with her daughter,
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Joyce Robertson. Is that right? That is correct? And Joyce has won
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awards for the writing of this show. Before we ever put it on stage,
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she won awards for it. Get into the storyline here about what this
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is all about. I mean you mentioned it's the Coleman family. It's a
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fictional family, but it's about a very real subject around there. Give us
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the thumbnail if you will on the story. The storyline as the story progresses.
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It's the story of how life was in nineteen eleven, and most of
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the people in and around Logan County were farmers at that time. And then
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you had the cold people who just you know, come in and bought the
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land and you know, made the promises that you can keep the land and
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you can do whatever you want to with it, live here as long as
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you want. Then the next thing, you know, they come and take
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the land and mind the cold. But you know that's not indicative of the
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way the coal industry is today. But this is just the history of the
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Battle of Blair Mountain and what it was fought for. So there's there's no
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ties to any one thing. It's just a story that we're telling and it's
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our history. And I'll say this about the Battle of Blair Mountain. I
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took what I don't know when they teach it now, but Jason, what
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I was in what was then you're an old guy like me. We called
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it junior High. But when I was in junior High, we had a
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I think a half a semester maybe a semester of West Virginia history and it
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was taught directly from the the same textbook we had. There was the same
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textbook. I'm sure that was used in Randolph County or Mine County or wherever,
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and it just kind of glossed over the whole Blair Mountain situation. Now,
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luckily I had a teacher being from the coal fields that went above and
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beyond to tell us more and spent a little bit more time on it.
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I think the whole Battle of Blair Mountain, Jason is something that you know,
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almost criminally, is just glossed over for what it meant to America.
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Get into that a little bit. I know you're a history guy, Get
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into that. Well. You know you had if anybody followed the life and
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times of Sheriff Don Chafin. Don Chaffin was hired by the coal operators to
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make sure that the miners after the killing of sid Hatfield in Maite one,
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they marched and wanted to come through Logan to what they called Bloody Mingo to
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unionize the mind's down here. And Don Chaffin was and his private army of
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Baldwin Felt agents. There's a line in the story that makes reference to all
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the build up of stuff and supplies coming into the old air Coma hotel where
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they were setting up for this battle, and Don Chaffin was quite a colorful
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character. There was probably nothing he wouldn't do for money. But you know
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the old smokestack that used to be over there where the ap property is,
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you know they said that. One fellow said, Don probably cried when they
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burnt that incenterator because of the people he could no longer take there. I
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mean, that's how That's how bad it was. But it's a great story.
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And the most important thing about this show is the kids that are involved,
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because, in the words of the president of the Air Coma Story,
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not everybody's a football player or a basketball player or a cheerleader. But this
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is one thing that the Air Coma Story does that no matter who you are,
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where you come from, you can come and be a part. You
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can learn lighting, you can learn sound, you can learn set construction,
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you can learn stage management. There's anybody that shows up and wants to be
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apart, you can be apart, and we'll put you to work. And
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these kids have worked for weeks and weeks and weeks to get this right to
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put on this show. And I would love it if some people from out
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of our area, up into Kanau County and further would come and see the
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hard work that these kids put in to put on a show and make it
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as good as it's going to be. And Jason, it is worth noting
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that the production is being done at Chief Logan State Park in the Amphitheater there
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known as Lizaburg like Amphitheater, and that's only about an hour and a half
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drive or so from downtown Charleston, So it's not like you're going to the
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ends of the earth. And that's why Jason actually reached out to me about
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coming because I know he's an avid listener of the show, but he actually
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reached out to me about coming on because he said, we want to try
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to get some people from the Kanaw Valley to make that short trip down to
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Logan to one of the most beautiful places in the little by. It's one
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of the most beautiful places in the entire state of West Virginia, and that's
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Chief Logan State Park, the most visited daytime park in West Virginia. To
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make that short drive down there. What do you think, what would you
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like for people maybe that aren't familiar with the story, Jason, they're not
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familiar with it at all. They're making the trip down from you know,
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Canalla Valley, Tays Valley where short trip down to LA to see this.
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What do you what would you like for them to take away from it?
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Embrace the history. Remember the history because sometimes we're destined to repeat it.
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But just embrace the history of it. This is part of West Virginia.
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And no matter how far you go away from West Virginia, how many how
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far away you moved from Logan, you always still have a piece of Logan
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in you. And there's always a piece that wants to come back. And
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that's you know, everywhere I travel, I hear people who moved off and
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back. This is our history, this is what made us, what got
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us here, and the talent that these kids have. I've met some wonderful,
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wonderful college kids, high school kids, middle school kids that love like
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there's no tomorrow, and I want people to see. I know Senator Phillips,
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I love him to death. He said, work, and these kids
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work and they don't get nothing. They don't get no pay for doing this.
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This is all volunteered. But this is what they love and this is
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what they excel at. So aren't we kind of obligated, you know to
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you know, you see a kid do something and he's successful at it.
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Attend show them that you that you appreciate the fact that they're out there work.
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And I mean they're not setting on a video game. They're not setting
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in the house doing nothing. They're out there in this heat, working on
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stage, putting stuff together. Everybody's working and I just want people to come
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and enjoy it, have a good time. And you know, people who
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have not seen the amphitheater. I was unaware of this. The seats that
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the air come the story has in the stands which we can seet about six
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hundred. Do you know where those seats came from? Did they not come
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from the Atlanta Braves Stadium or no, that came from crosley Field. Okay,
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Carl, Okay. The Logan high actually came by, I think from
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the old Atlanta Braves Stadium. I think that's what it was. So the
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seats there are actually Coop, your big Reds fan, my producer, Deal
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Cooper. These seats actually came from Crosley Field, that are there. So
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that's worth the price of admission, right. How much is admission? By
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the way, speaking the price of admission, it's fifteen dollars for adults ken
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for students and eight for kids. Okay, And where can people learn more
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about the performance? Jason? You can check us out on Facebook at the
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air Cooma Story Incorporated. Uh and we have you know, you can call
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our office at three oh four seventy five two O two five three for advanced
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tickets or purchasing there at you know the date that you come. And again
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we're only talking about you know, and some of that time is actually traveling
27:23
through Chief Logan State Park. You're talking about give or take about a ninety
27:27
minute dry maybe not even that long to get down there. So those that
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are listening, that's why you wanted to come on the show. Those in
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the Canal Valley you're looking for something to do. It's one of the most
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beautiful setting you'll ever see in West Virginia at the Amphitheater there and it's a
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great, great story written locally by Joyce Robertson. Get down there and enjoy.
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Jason, it's always a pleasure to talk to you. I appreciate it.
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Best of luck with everything it's gonna be gonna have the next three weekends.
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Is that right? That is correct? And Dave, I appreciate you
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very much. And couldn't thank you enough for for letting us do this.
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All right, we'll talk soon, Jason, Thanks a lot. I appreciate
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about it. This is not glat. I mean, i've actually I have
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not seen the production myself, but I've read the transcripts of what they are
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doing. It's not it's not pretty, it's not designed to be. That's
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not what it's it's not what it's all about. I want to get into
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this Charleston City Council meeting. Last night, man, I tell you this
28:47
thing went on. I think it just ended a couple about twenty minutes or
28:49
so ago. I think I was watching a lot of it online last night.
28:53
But the City of Charleston will not have a new needle exchange program.
28:59
Uh and uh and and something else that also came out of the City council
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media last night is there were members of council that we're asking for an independent
29:06
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couple of moments. I've got several texts I want to get to as well.
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Programming note, though the inc is now dry on the contract on this
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as my guest in one quarter state Democratic Party Chair and Delegate Mike Pushkin and
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on the other side, State Republican Party co Chair Tony Hodge. It's gonna
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and so on and so forth. It's gonna be great. I think it's
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33:34
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Hodge says, I'll do it, and I've gone back and forth trying to
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get a date. That's been the only thing simply because you know, you
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33:46
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full time job. Tony Hodge is a is the co chair of the Republican
33:53
Party in state of West Virginia, but he also has a full time job.
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So trying to get with both guys could take a little time off work
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to be here has been kind of a struggle, but we got it.
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Coupe next week, one week from the day. No other guests scheduled,
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in you? And I said to nobody, that's assault to best listeners and
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textures in the world. All right to Charleston City Council last night had a
36:07
long meeting, for sure, but in the end, the proposal from the
36:12
Women's Health Center of West Virginia on a new needle exchange program on the West
36:16
Side has been voted down. The vote was nine to four and seventeen against.
36:23
Story posted by Jared Lewis at WV Metro News dot com, the health
36:29
center had applied for serene service program license. Now let's go back a little
36:32
bit. You recall that the legislature passed a rule basically trying to curtail some
36:39
of these needle exchange programs around the state. Syringe programs, whatever you want
36:44
to call them, by basically making him, and I'm gonna say it's in
36:46
a bad way, making them jump through some hoops. They had to do
36:49
some stuff to be able to do this, including public meetings which they had,
36:52
and also having the sign off of the local city councils and eventually to
36:55
the County Commission. And I was watching the meeting online this night, and
37:00
it was pointed out that even had Charleston City Council voted for this last night,
37:04
it still had to go before the County Commission, and there was no
37:06
guarantee that it was going to happen there. Well, it didn't make it
37:08
out of City Council last night. Now the folks at the Women's Health Centers
37:13
say it would just be a part of their ongoing harm reduction programs. Council
37:20
at the meeting last night allowed ten people to speak, five for it and
37:24
five against him, so they limited the number of people speaking, which I
37:30
mean again I was told and by listening to Jared Lewis this morning, I
37:32
think they spent somewhere in the neighborhood of about two and a half hours just
37:37
on this last night, just on this subject. Alone, so that was
37:42
the reason for the limiting of the speakers. There was actually a motion to
37:46
allow for more people to speak, but that was rejected by counsel. Of
37:52
course, that public hearing was held week week and a half so ago.
37:57
That was held at the Goodwill Prosperity Center, So not only the public spoke
38:02
at this thing last night, but several council members did as well. Of
38:07
course, it was the same argument that you always hear for those for and
38:12
against those for it, saying it will cut down on disease, including the
38:16
big one HEPSI heppatitis C. While those against it have a variety of reasons
38:24
too, Mainly one of those is they simply don't want it in their backyard
38:30
or around their places of businesses. There were a couple There was at least
38:32
one business owner that I saw on the video last night on the stream that
38:37
spoke out against it, and another person spoke I guess as a spokesperson if
38:42
you will, for yet another business, talking about the issues that they have
38:45
had in that area. Other people talked about not wanting to have these programs
38:51
around schools and the fact that you are doing nothing but encouraging more illegal activity.
39:00
Of it ees, and that was kind of the point that I made
39:02
on the show last week. I like the comments that are made by I
39:07
think it was council Member Pat Jones who said that perhaps the city should be
39:13
looking into bringing in the DA or Task Force officers to help with the problem,
39:19
because you know, make no mistake about it, the problem is out
39:22
of control in Charleston, but it's not just out of control in Charleston.
39:28
You know, there's more attention on Charleston because it's the state capitol, but
39:30
there's there's problems with this in Saint Albans. There's problems with this, and
39:35
it was brought out of the meeting last night. People talked about Saint Albans,
39:37
have talked about Marrow, matt they talked about rand some of these other
39:39
places where there are a lot of problems with it. You know, in
39:43
all fairness, there's always going to be a bigger spotlight on the city of
39:45
Charleston because it is the state capitol. It's the largest city in West Virginia,
39:51
so that just that that's just part of it. Councilman Larry Moore was
39:55
another no vote count someone more of course, is a West Side guy and
40:04
now represents that area that he that he grew up in. He says that
40:09
he supports harm reduction, but not actual needle exchange programs. You know,
40:17
they're they're not necessarily the same. This Woman's Health Center was already doing harm
40:22
reduction programs, but they wanted to be able to do more with needle exchange.
40:29
So harm reduction and although the two terms are kind of interchangeable at times,
40:32
they're not exactly the same thing. Harm reduction can involve a number of
40:37
things that don't necessarily involve the distribution the exchange what have you of needles?
40:45
Now, on this very show yesterday, Mayor Goodwin said that she would be
40:53
an no vote and she was because in city Council, according to the rules
41:00
and rags of the City of Charleston in their charter, the mayor does get
41:04
a vote. And she's surprised some people, including myself on the show yesterday
41:09
on the Mayor Monday segment that she does once a month with this where she
41:13
came out and said, I, as of right now, as of yesterday,
41:16
I will be a no vote on this. And and she was citing
41:21
mainly the location that was the issue that that she had so so that's it.
41:30
I mean, it's done, and I said in my piece on it.
41:35
I said my piece on it last week, so you know, you
41:37
know pretty much where I stand on Of course, I got raked over the
41:39
coals for it. One guy on Twitter even calling out the sponsors of this
41:45
show because of my stance, but they you know, that's that's all.
41:50
I just appreciate people listening. And obviously they were listening to the mayor on
41:52
the show yesterday because the same person also mentioned that on the Twitter machine yesterday.
42:00
So I've said my comments on it. You know where I am on
42:02
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That's not an unfair statement. The war on drugs was a colossal failure.
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That's not an unfair statement, Tex says Dave. Why is it always a
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celebration for the African American population? How about a celebration of the European population,
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Native Americans, etc. At Gomart Stadium? Too much to say the
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least, thanks Dave. According to a texture that's in reference to the Dirty
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Birds to Night, Avian African American Heritage Night, Texas folks made the same
46:04
argument talking about needle exchange, about giving away free condoms that would encourage people
46:08
to have more sex. Newsflash, folks still have sex without condoms and still
46:12
use dirty needles if they dine. If they don't, I'm sorry they were
46:15
clark if they don't have clean ones. According to a tech well, I
46:20
don't disagree with that statement either. But I think the issue that a lot
46:22
of us have is is that you're still talking about doing an illegal activity and
46:27
that has to do with illegal drugs, and that you are furthering that and
46:32
basically saying, Okay, they're gonna do it no matter what, so let's
46:36
make it safe. Some of us just can't wrap her heads around that.
46:39
Texas disappointed that you didn't press the mayor yesterday when she went Kareene Gene on
46:45
you yesterday and parsed her words on an investigation. In regards to Chief Hunts,
46:50
the media continues to give the former their former cohort of poll She was
46:52
never a cohort of mine. Never. I mean she was in the media,
46:57
but I did not know the mayor at the time. Elsewhere last night
47:01
at city Council, it looks like there will not be an independent investigation into
47:07
the Charleston Police Chief tight Hunt incident. Council person Shannon Snodgrass was one of
47:14
those that was asking for it. She talked about it at a length on
47:17
this show last Thursday. In fact, the vote was twenty one to five
47:22
to reject the resolution that would have called for an outside investigation into that whole
47:28
situation. The chief admitted to an apologized in a public statement for the incident
47:34
that happened last year where he had invited a woman to his office after hours.
47:39
Now you recall the mayor suspended Chief Hunt for three days without pay in
47:45
June or twenty twenty two. That suspension came down after the internal investigation.
47:51
City Attorney Kevin Baker said last night during the council meeting, as he had
47:55
said on this show a few weeks back, that the investigation in the Chief
48:00
Hunt was done pursuant to the city's hr policies, and as Jared Lewis's story
48:07
points out wv Metro News dot com, only the mayor can remove or discipline
48:15
the chief of police. Now, Kevin Baker went on to say that he
48:20
doesn't believe the Professional Standards Division should be investigating the chief of police sits.
48:27
In effect, they operate under the chief of police. Because many people had
48:31
had won had asked why it didn't go that route. Council person Shannon Snodgrass
48:38
repeated at the meeting last night what she'd said on this show last week and
48:45
very very passionate statements. If you go back and you listen to the meeting,
48:50
and we included her statements on all of our stories, is one of
48:52
you can go online and listen to those. I'm sure She repeated that she's
48:59
asking for someone, perhaps even the Governor's office to get involved in this situation.
49:07
Another council member, Pamberka spoke saying that people in positions of power should
49:12
be held to a higher standard, while another council member, Bruce King called
49:17
the resolution quote ridiculous. This was the resolution that was called upon to ask
49:22
the city to get an independent investigation. Council Member King referred to the resolution
49:28
as ridiculous and asking who exactly it would be to investigate that situation, and
49:37
he pointed out did Councilman King that this relationship between Chief Ti Hunt and this
49:42
lady appeared to be consensual. In fact, the woman in question here,
49:50
to my knowledge, has never said anything other than that that it was consensual
49:55
and their there's been no allegations of crimes being committed or harassment or whatever.
50:08
So that's pretty much. I mean, I guess the end of the story.
50:12
I have a feeling that some of the council people like Shannon Snodgrass are
50:15
probably not going to let this go. And I'm not saying they should.
50:19
I mean, they feel strongly about it. That's the that's their right to
50:22
continue to pursue it. I don't know that the Governor's office is going to
50:24
get involved in this situation again, Ty Hunt, the chief of police.
50:28
Thy Hunt was suspended without pay for three days, and according to the city,
50:34
that seemed to be enough. Now there are those again on city Council
50:37
and people in the community as well outside city Council, to think that that
50:40
wasn't enough, that it shouldn't be allowed to just go away that simply,
50:45
but it appears that it is going to go away. That simply. Sex
50:51
says there never is an independent investigation of rank and file police either. Council
50:57
Member Snodgrass argues the professional standard division rules should apply. Guess what the professional
51:02
standards is within the Charleston Police Department. That's kind of what I pointed out
51:07
earlier. Yeah, that's the professional standards, as best I understand, answer
51:10
to the chief of police. And the only person that the chief of police
51:15
answers to and the only person that can discipline or fire or suspend or whatever
51:20
at chief of police in Charleston is the mayor. And she opted to go
51:24
with a three day suspension without paying. So that's where they are closed with
51:29
this. If you're one that comes into Charleston a lot, you've probably noticed
51:31
over the last couple of weeks a couple of months, I should say.
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The purple bags over the parking meters actually goes back a couple of years to
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the pandemic. Those bags signify those spots are reserved for curbside pickups or restaurants
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and shops. Well, they're not twenty five of those around the city.
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They're going to be going away after labor days. So people that have just
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been pulling in and putting on their hazard lights anyway to run in. As
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one business owner said, you don't have to worry about that anymore because apparently
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those are going to be going away after labor day. Replaced the course the
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de meters during the pandemic. All right, gotta go. Thank you to
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Senator rupy Philis for being here, and also thank you so much to Jason
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McCoy friend the production of Cole for being here as well. Coming up on
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the show tomorrow, State and Economic Development Director Rich Carmichael is going to be
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on the show tomorrow, Plus we'll talk a little bit about it Girls Night
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Out Hoppy coming up. Follow the news of the daywd Metrodews dot com,
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Cooper Thank you so much. I'll see you tomorrow till Dan, have fun
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