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Men show more tolerance for ideological opponents, women most affected · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to Honey Badger Radio. Name
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, all right.
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  Speaker 1: So anyway, so yeah, we're going to be looking at
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  Speaker 1: a study that was well, it's an article about a
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  Speaker 1: study on Fire's substack. Fire is the Foundation for Why
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  Speaker 1: am I like spacing out on this? It's it's a
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  Speaker 1: it's an educational pro free speech organization, Foundation for Equal
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  Speaker 1: for for I don't know whatever.
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  Speaker 2: technical difficulties directly.
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  Speaker 1: Individual Rights and Education. Foundation for Individual Rights and Education.
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  Speaker 1: I had to think about it for a time. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, like a college organization. Very cool, and
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  Speaker 1: they did a study that made a revealing thing, at
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  Speaker 1: least for them, that male students show more tolerance for
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  Speaker 1: their political enemies than female students do for their own allies.
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  Speaker 1: And we're going to be looking at that, and there's
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  Speaker 1: a else.
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  Speaker 2: Will no one else looks at?
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  Speaker 1: Well?
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  Speaker 2: No, actually some Simone and Malcolm. Basically they did. They
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  Speaker 2: looked to a look at this. They did a nice
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  Speaker 2: little compilation of a lot of the stuff that we've
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  Speaker 1: They looked at a bunch of stuff that we have
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  Speaker 1: looked at. Yes, and they have concluded that we were right.
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  Speaker 1: Again that I don't think. I don't think they doubted that.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's started hard to handle being this right.
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  Speaker 1: Only when it's really early. That's that's the main issue,
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  Speaker 1: is when you're right really early, like before every.
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  Speaker 2: Ten years, ten years before everyone else.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, problem.
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  Speaker 2: I like this new academic. It's really the woman who's
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  Speaker 2: who's doing the rounds now. I don't know her name.
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  Speaker 1: I'm really sorry, Andrews.
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  Speaker 2: Ellen Andrews. She's doing the rounds about recognizing that woke
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  Speaker 2: is female. Ye is fem it's fem behavior. And I
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  Speaker 2: think that this is something that we recognized years and
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  Speaker 2: years and years ago. In fact, it might have been
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  Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen when I said, Anita will save us
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  Speaker 2: from our sins. And we talked about how women and
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  Speaker 2: have entered well, they've entered games, they've entered publishing, they've
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  Speaker 2: entered comic books, are a particular brand of women who
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  Speaker 2: want to turn these endeavors into these kind of sewing
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  Speaker 2: circle kind of things where merit doesn't apply and it's
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  Speaker 2: all about feelings. And then and then you know, Anita
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  Speaker 2: was the one where she goes in and that was
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  Speaker 2: even before gamer Gate. And we also talked about how
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  Speaker 2: women ruined coffee houses back in like the it was
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  Speaker 2: like the Fife the sixteenth century. Yeah, they're like coffee
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  Speaker 2: houses make our husbands impotent, and and they were protesting
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  Speaker 2: them cars.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But this whole idea of women taking over a place
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  Speaker 2: and then putting in a whole bunch of arbitrary moral
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  Speaker 2: frameworks that people have to adhere to so that they
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  Speaker 2: control the space and the discord, any kind of discourse
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  Speaker 2: in the space, that's old. But anyway, this is this
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  Speaker 2: might be this, this study might give an explanation or
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  Speaker 2: a bit more of an explanation why women go into
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  Speaker 2: a space and it's it is when really it's not
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  Speaker 2: just feminists, it's women. They go into a space and
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  Speaker 2: they insist everybody agree. Everybody, there can be no disagreement none.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Go into a space and they push there. They
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  Speaker 1: throw their weight around, often literally, and what.
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  Speaker 2: Ends up happening is everybody tiptoes around. And it's not
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  Speaker 2: just all women. It's the women who I don't know,
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  Speaker 2: they have the most social clout, and then the whole
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  Speaker 2: whole situation revolves around whatever they think is appropriate to
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  Speaker 2: say and do, and we can't. You can't have discussions,
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  Speaker 2: you can't have debates anymore. Everything has to be about
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  Speaker 2: maintaining relationships and comfort. And nobody can feel uncomfortable except
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  Speaker 2: everybody somehow, at the same time, it's nobody supposed to
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  Speaker 2: feel uncomfortable. Everybody is walking on eggshells. You notice that,
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  Speaker 1: Brian, all right, so we're gonna be looking at this article.
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  Speaker 2: Tak Yeah, everybody's spacey today.
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  Speaker 1: I think dot or it's okay.
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  Speaker 2: Entropy with eyes.
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  Speaker 1: It's the substack for fire and it reads. Male students
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  Speaker 1: show more tolerance for political enemies than females show for
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  Speaker 1: their own allies. Fire data reveals the gender tolerance gap
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  Speaker 1: is real. A longer version of this essay was originally
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  Speaker 1: published by the Eternally Radical Idea. I can like go
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  Speaker 1: to that if it's like not too long, it's not
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  Speaker 1: too bad. We can look at this one instead. What
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  Speaker 1: do you think? Yeah, sure, all right, here we go
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  Speaker 1: the eternally Radical Idea Men are more tolerant of the
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  Speaker 1: other side than women are of their own. Suppose you're
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  Speaker 1: a controversial left wing speaker. Who do you think would
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  Speaker 1: be more likely to let you voice your opinions on campus?
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  Speaker 1: A slightly conservative man or a democratic socialist woman.
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  Speaker 2: Is that a trick question?
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  Speaker 1: Well, I mean I'm pausing after every paragraph if possible,
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  Speaker 1: so we can like add commentary. Wow, I mean we've
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  Speaker 1: already seen Yes, we've already seen examples of this. I
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  Speaker 1: think yes, Jen men generally are willing to engage.
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  Speaker 2: But go ahead, Alison, Okay, Well, if if I were
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  Speaker 2: to guess, I would guess that the conservative man would
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  Speaker 2: be more open to the opinion of a controversial left
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  Speaker 2: leaning man than even the left leaning woman, because I
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  Speaker 2: know the way that these things go. I know the
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  Speaker 2: general trajectory, the curve of how these things end up
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  Speaker 2: appearing or end up end up turning out to be.
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  Speaker 2: So am I right?
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  Speaker 1: I think you are? Let's find out turn down. Suppose
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  Speaker 1: you're a controversial right wing speaker. Who do you think
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  Speaker 1: would be more likely to let you voice your opinions
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  Speaker 1: on campus? A slightly liberal man or a somewhat conservative woman.
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  Speaker 1: It may seem obvious that, regardless of gender, someone with
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  Speaker 1: a similar ideology would be more tolerant of your views,
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  Speaker 1: but recent data gathered by Fire suggests that that's not
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  Speaker 1: always the case. Amazingly, it turns out I don't think
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  Speaker 1: this is amazing that men are often more tolerant of
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  Speaker 1: the opposite side than women are of their own side.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to add anything before I keep going
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  Speaker 1: or should we look at the numbers first?
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  Speaker 2: No, let's look at the numbers.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. This data comes from Fire's annual College Free Speech Rankings,
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  Speaker 1: which is designed to gauge the state of free speech
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  Speaker 1: on American college campuses, as well as student attitudes towards
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  Speaker 1: free speech. This includes gauging students feelings towards allowing various
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  Speaker 1: hypothetical speakers on campus, which we can break down by
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  Speaker 1: various characteristics. Even when evaluating the data based on gender,
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  Speaker 1: some shocking trends arise men are on average significantly more
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  Speaker 1: tolerant and less censorious than women.
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  Speaker 2: Ha ha, Yeah, doesn't surprise anyone at this point.
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  Speaker 1: YEAHD. In a related thing, I have another study here
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  Speaker 1: from Taylor and Francis online. Who wants to sensor pornography
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  Speaker 1: and hate speech? Can you guess? Is it men or women?
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  Speaker 1: Let's think? And it's interesting that it's pornography and hate speech, right,
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  Speaker 1: and so, yeah, women are generally more censorious because they're
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  Speaker 1: more security oriented than men, so they're gonna be more
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  Speaker 1: censorious than men.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, can I can I just get butt in here
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  Speaker 2: with just a technical detail. You're moving off the right
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  Speaker 2: of the screen, Yeah, a little bit, just just tilted
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  Speaker 2: so that, yeah, that you're centered a bit more. I
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  Speaker 2: will actually, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know what I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 2: I'm gonna. I'm gonna turn voidcat so that you can
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  Speaker 2: appreciate she's very cute right now. She's trying to suck
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  Speaker 2: me in. Though she's trying to she's setting a trap.
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  Speaker 2: She's setting a trap. I'm pretty sure. Well now you
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  Speaker 2: can only see her feet. But anyway, Okay, yes, this
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  Speaker 2: is this. I don't think this surprises anyone on this channel.
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  Speaker 2: But let's let's continue.
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  Speaker 1: Okay. Uh So, by contrast, while political affiliation makes people
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  Speaker 1: more biased towards speakers on their side, it affects their
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  Speaker 1: overall willingness to let speakers speak regardless of ideology very little. However,
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  Speaker 1: regardless of party or ideology, men are significantly more tolerant
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  Speaker 1: than women, still much so that the gender difference dominates
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  Speaker 1: the ideological differences. Hmm, and this makes sense. This. This
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  Speaker 1: effect is even more acute in the extremes. Men are
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  Speaker 1: over three and a half times more likely than women
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  Speaker 1: to be perfectly tolerant of opposing views, meaning they would
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  Speaker 1: definitely allow any campus speakers, including those they disagree with.
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  Speaker 1: All Right, so think about look at what women are
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  Speaker 1: posting on social media when it comes to the current
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  Speaker 1: political let's say, you know, situation we're in, and the
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  Speaker 1: kinds of things they call for. I mean, already already
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  Speaker 1: said in this channel many times that they tend to
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  Speaker 1: call for violence more often. Uh, And in particular, it's
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  Speaker 1: easy to do because they're not the ones that are
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  Speaker 1: going to actually have to take the risk in doing
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  Speaker 1: the violence. It's gonna be the white knights that support them.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be the men.
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  Speaker 3: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: But that means that they're more emboldened to do it,
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  Speaker 1: so they're more likely to do it, and that means
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  Speaker 1: they're more like it's like they have power without accountability,
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  Speaker 1: and so they use the power more.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, uh, yeah, it's like power with our consequences basically.
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  Speaker 1: And if those men go and they do something crazy
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  Speaker 1: and they end up going to jail or getting beat
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  Speaker 1: up or you know, Heaven forbid die, the women just
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  Speaker 1: get to say, well, I guess you know that guy
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  Speaker 1: was dumb, Like like the like they doesn't It doesn't
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  Speaker 1: even penetrate their consciousness that they may have been one
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  Speaker 1: of the people that nudge that man towards that decision.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, you you sit down.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so this effect is even more already read that.
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  Speaker 1: To get a better understanding of these results, we'll look
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  Speaker 1: at the free speech map a scatter pot or scatter
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  Speaker 1: plot rather of various groups left and right wing tolerant.
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  Speaker 1: So did we look at this already? No? This is interesting, okay.
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  Speaker 1: So where are men and women on the free speech map?
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  Speaker 1: So the map is kind of weird, but like here
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  Speaker 1: you have more like you know, right wing bias here.
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  Speaker 1: Down here is left wing bias, and the tolerance is
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  Speaker 1: less tolerant here, more tolerant here. Okay, So let's see
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  Speaker 1: what they're willing to tolerate in terms of speech. So
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  Speaker 1: when you look at men are circles and women are squares.
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  Speaker 1: So when you look at the and then the colors determined,
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  Speaker 1: like I guess their beliefs, right, So you know, let's
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  Speaker 1: look at the most liberal women. I think that's like
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  Speaker 1: a deep blue. It's kind of hard to see. So
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  Speaker 1: they are less tolerant over here, they're over here, and
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  Speaker 1: if they're squares, yes, you're right. Women, Yes, so women
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  Speaker 1: are down here. See they're generally less tolerant regardless of
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  Speaker 1: I mean, left wing women more so, but like you know,
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  Speaker 1: right wingmen too, and even libertarian women are pretty intolerant,
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  Speaker 1: which is okay, what hit them out? Kick them out
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  Speaker 1: like libert Look, the libertarian men are the most tolerant,
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  Speaker 1: and even some like far right guys. It's like a
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  Speaker 1: far right guy right here, right here, Oh, this is
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  Speaker 1: more like a moderate, So a moderate man, a right
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  Speaker 1: wing man, a left wing man over here, pretty liberal.
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  Speaker 1: But then the libertarians the most tolerant, and then like
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  Speaker 1: the moderates and and independence I guess or they people
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  Speaker 1: haven't whatever. And then down here you have the women,
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  Speaker 1: so you can see where the divide is a I
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  Speaker 1: don't know if you want to say anything about this
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  Speaker 1: before we keep going, but.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just wondering what the heck has happened to haven't
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  Speaker 2: thought much about this, because they're the least the men
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  Speaker 2: who are.
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  Speaker 1: Pretty low on there. Yeah, they are the least tolerant.
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  Speaker 2: I don't liar. They're clustering with the women. All the
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  Speaker 2: men who haven't thought much about this they're clustering with
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  Speaker 2: the women in terms of intolerance, so they haven't thought
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  Speaker 2: much about it. But the little thoughts they have, they're
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  Speaker 2: extremely intolerant about about having them question. That's just that's
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  Speaker 2: some what the heck is. All I can say is
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  Speaker 2: what the heck is happening there?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder about like the people who supposy haven't
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  Speaker 1: thought much about it. Maybe maybe they're there because they
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  Speaker 1: don't think about these things, but they watch mainstream media.
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  Speaker 1: They're just being like pushed in that direction. I don't
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  Speaker 1: think that much about it, but I did watch one
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  Speaker 1: one battle after another, and I totally agree with the message.
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  Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, Okay. As the map shows, when it
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  Speaker 1: comes to overall tolerance of opposing viewpoints, no group, men
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  Speaker 1: or women is doing particularly well. However, it also shows
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  Speaker 1: that men are significantly more tolerant than women regardless of ideology.
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  Speaker 1: When assessing data within a given ideology, men remain much
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  Speaker 1: more tolerant towards both sides. We can tell this because
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  Speaker 1: for each ideology, the male point is above and to
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  Speaker 1: the right of the corresponding female point on the map. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: there is also a remarkably clear trend within each gender
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  Speaker 1: with the slight exception of male libertarians, no ideological group
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  Speaker 1: shows significantly higher total tolerance than the others, meaning that
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  Speaker 1: regardless of their affiliation, their average tolerance remains constant. And
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  Speaker 1: while left wing women are stereotypically seen as being uniquely sensorial,
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  Speaker 1: the reality is that this tendency applies to all groups
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  Speaker 1: of women, regardless of ideology.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, okay, so here's the thing. Now, we were finally
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  Speaker 2: finding information like this, is it any wonder that the
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  Speaker 2: political landscape has become more and more divided, divisive aggressively, so,
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  Speaker 2: more censorious, less tolerant, And how do we square that
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  Speaker 2: with the idea of a republic that's capable of entertaining
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  Speaker 2: different kinds of thought in order to arrive at the
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  Speaker 2: best solution to a problem Like how do we maintain
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  Speaker 2: that and also allow women free access to the marketplace
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  Speaker 2: of ideas? Like something has got to give here? And
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  Speaker 2: then the other thing is that we are now laboring
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  Speaker 2: under year seventy of a narrative that women are just wiser,
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  Speaker 2: women's ways of knowing are superior, So we should defer
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  Speaker 2: to the sensibilities of women, and we shouldn't focus on
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  Speaker 2: how men do things how men do things is wrong.
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  Speaker 2: Having free speech is wrong. Tolerating other people's opinions about things,
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  Speaker 2: that's wrong. Everything should be about consensus and making people
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  Speaker 2: feel comfortable and yet always on edge that they might
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  Speaker 2: be violating the consensus. But you know, that's what we
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  Speaker 2: should be pursuing. And that's better because women are better.
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  Speaker 2: Women are just better people. The future is female. When
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  Speaker 2: men do things is stale, pale and male, and we
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  Speaker 2: want to get away from that. So not only do
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  Speaker 2: we have this, I think we might consider this sort
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  Speaker 2: of a latent tendency in women to just want conformity. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: could you get out of my light earbuds? Just lie down? Okay.
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  Speaker 2: And she's not gonna do it. She's a cat. She
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  Speaker 2: conforms to nothing, nothing. I don't even think she conforms
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  Speaker 2: to herself.
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  Speaker 1: But anyway, so.
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  Speaker 2: Everything is about conform normity. It's not about having a
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  Speaker 2: free marketplace of ideas. But that's not consistent with the
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  Speaker 2: democratic republic. So something's got to give here.
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  Speaker 1: Either.
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  Speaker 2: We have to hold women to task for this behavior
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  Speaker 2: and say, yeah, this is your this is your natural tendency.
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  Speaker 2: You shouldn't you shouldn't indulge it. You should actually listen
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  Speaker 2: to men, because men know how to manage a republic
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  Speaker 2: with different people's opinions and debate and free speech and
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  Speaker 2: a free marketplace of ideas. So maybe listen to men
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  Speaker 2: more or.
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  Speaker 1: Got to build a.
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  Speaker 2: Wall between women's world and men's world, Yeah, got to
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  Speaker 2: make the women pay for it?
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  Speaker 1: Well, it was we kind of I mean, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: say it was a wall, but there was a I
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: guess you could say, like a division between men and
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: women that was like necessary so that they can at
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: least men could like operate in the world, in the
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: world like uh sort of way unobstructed, right, And yeah,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: and and and I think part of why that model,
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: what why that worked when it was going on, was
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: because women didn't really know everything men were doing, probably
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: because it was better that they didn't. Because they did,
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: then you know, they probably would be able to conceive
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: of it, like I'm talking about protecting borders, fighting in wars,
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: you know, like going out into the world and like
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: performing like this this hard labor. It is before industrialization,
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: but even after that. And I think that what we've
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: tried to do is we tried to like combine these worlds.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: And I don't know, I don't think. I don't I
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: don't think women really are like informed on what that means,
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: like what the extent of that of that is. And
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: they want to meddle in what men are doing because
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: they don't like the way it is, right, they want
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to alter it.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: Well, they want to they feel like, you know what,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: more and more I think about it because you know,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: you watch the Hollywood version of the Heart of Darkness,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and it really doesn't make the same point as the novella,
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: because the point of the novella is that women can't
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: conceive of the entirety of men's experience, right, that's right, yeah,
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: And they can't. They just they they force it to
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: conform to something that it doesn't work, and that there's
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: one line in the Heart of Darkness where he says
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that if women were to take over, the world would
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: just break along a fracture line that that men just
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: like they just live with the reality of it. They're
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: just they're okay with it. They just manage some negative
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: part of the human condition and they just accept it
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: and deal with it. And women wouldn't be able to
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: accept and deal with it, and that is the way
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: that the world would fracture. If women were in charge.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: And I think that's exactly what we're seeing. There is
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: things that men just accept, like people disagree, okay, and
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: if it doesn't end up with someone's you know, choking
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: on his own blood, then it's probably okay. We can
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: manage that, you know, and other things that men accept.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: Our people need constraints. They need to operate under constraints,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: and they need to operate under oversight and altruistic punishment
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: or you don't get the best behavior. Whereas I see
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: a lot of women, not all women, but a lot
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: of women. They look at men enforcing boundaries and policing behavior,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: and they, honest to God, think that the oversight causes
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: the theft, and if you've got rid of and prevents
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: the prosperity. So they think things like financial audits cause theft,
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: and if you got rid of them, we'd have prosperity
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: because everybody would get what they want. They think that
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: the oversight creates the hierarchy, right, and and in some
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: ways it does. But if you got rid of that hierarchy,
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: then everybody would get what they want. And instead what
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: you get is theft, and what you get is people
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: stealing from others. And and I don't even mean on
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: like a on a on a street level. I mean
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: on an institutional level. You get gigantic networks of bureaucratic graft.
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: You get what's happening in Comax with silver, which is
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: something that I have been investigating. I've been staying up
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: for till four in the morning, for night, night after
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: night after night, to investigate, and eventually I'm going to
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: be putting something out that's like a solo analysis on
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: that because it's really important and it actually ties back
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: into men's issues. But that's in the side. You get
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: all of this institutional level theft going on because the
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: oversight has become its wealth, itsself a problem. It's being
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: framed as a problem because it's male, pale, stale and mail.
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: This whole idea of having things like gold standards and
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and and audits and oversight committees and not a gigantic
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: neck network of opaque derivatives, all of that.
• 24:21
  Speaker 4: Is just old Keynesians, where not even Kenesian Keynesian is
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: old Kensian is stale, pale and mail.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: We're at modern monetary Kensian. Yeah, thank you, Brian. Kensian
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: is old pale and mail. Now we're at modern monetary theory,
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: which is you.
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: Can't go bankrupt no matter how much you print. It's
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: not possible because you could just print more. It's Kensian
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: without the de leveraging. Okay, I'm I'm deep into the
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: financial weeds. Let's just I'll bring it down to brass tacks.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: A lot of women think that over it creates.
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: It creates poverty instead of preventing theft, and they think
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: if they get rid of it, everyone's gonna have prosperity.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: So they think the act of policing causes the crime,
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: the act of auditing causes the theft, the act of
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: controlling immigration causes the illegal immigrants. And that's I mean,
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: if you think about it, that almost the last one
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: almost works, but it really doesn't, right, And that's that
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: is how that that is the mentality that a lot
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: of women bring. And if you can't actually criticize women,
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: that's the mentality that you end up laboring under. It.
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: It's a cargo cult mentality that regards all forms of
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: any kind of boundary setting as creating the very problems
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: you're setting boundaries to prevent. And it's insane, and this
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: is part of it. This is okay, Yep, I went
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: into the weeds. I apologize, guys.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Hunt there, all right, So now they're bringing the graft
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: down a little bit more. We can we can make
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: a similar plot by party affiliation, and so instead of
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: looking at like liberal and conservative and libertarian, we're looking
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: at the Democrats, Republicans, independents, and it's basically like coming
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: out about the same as you can see the uh
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: this is like how far right they are right based
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: or right biased, and how tolerant they are versus how
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: left they are. And then the women are still way
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: down here and the men are up here right now.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Of course, I think this could be a lot higher
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: for men as well, but you can see how women
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: are kind of an obstacle to that. I think into
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: some degree, women kind of like have some ability to
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like restrict men on how far they can go, because
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I think men are looking at what women are reacting
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to and they're reacting to them. So that might be
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: why you don't see any of these guys like way
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: over here. You know, I don't know if you know
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, but they have like a rubber banding
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: effect on men, so they can go like so far,
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: but it's like this is the Overton window, you know. Okay.
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: Beyond the mostly similar results, the most salient thing here
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: is that for both genders, Democrat leaning independents are more
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: tolerant of both sides than Democrats, and Republican leaning independents
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: are more tolerant of both sides than Republicans. Again, however,
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: we see the stark differences or effects of gender on
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: these measurements. Male Democrats are more tolerant of right wing
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: speakers than female Republicans. Yes, I've seen it. While extremely illustrative,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: these plots belie some very important differences between individuals. To
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: get a better sense for individuals is various stances he
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: can show. And whenever I see like a word that
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: ends in as with an apostrophe on it, I'm not
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: really sure how to say it to like without it
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: just sounding like the word. You know it all right?
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: We can show a heat map where everyone's positions are
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: spread out across the map. The brighter and yellower a
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: square is on the map, the more people there are
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: or are there, showing where people tend to cluster. The
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: darker and more purple the square, the fewer people are there,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: So where are men and women on the free speech
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: heat map. So this is like taking the same chart,
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: but it's sort of like showing clusters. So we have
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: this is like I guess left wing men and right
• 28:33
  Speaker 1: wing men, and then this is like left and wing
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: women and right wing women. Maybe I'm not sure. It's
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: kind of interesting. Yeah, well but I guess they're they're
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: more spread out down here, is what it is. Yeah,
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: they're more clustered. That's why there's yellow. These are these
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: are tighter clusters, but these are more spread out, which
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: is why, Like this is where the women are asked,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: like down here somewhere except for these, do you see
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying? You see what it's showing? Okay, Yeah.
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: Even when we hyper focus on individual positions, the gender
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: tolerance gap persists. Most men are clustered around the middle,
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: with total tolerance mostly ranging from mediocre to decent. Men
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: also tend to not exhibit much bias. See the linked
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: addendum for more granular information on this, with most clustering
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: near the diagonal. Amongst men, perfect tolerance the top right
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: square is uncommon, but far from zero. So there's, uh,
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: this is men again. You see men up here? Right?
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, there are some men in the There are some
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: men up there, but that's tolerance.
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: Let's see amongst men, perfect tolerance top right square is uncommon.
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: We found that six point four percent of men are
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: perfectly tolerant, compared to only one point eight percent of women.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: So almost three times or actually more than three times,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: a half times and half times more perfectly tolerant men
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: than perfectly tolerant women. Yeah, okay, I actually wonder what
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: this would be like in a society that didn't con
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: condemn the idea that men are different in any positive
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: way than women. So that's really the thing that our
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: society does is we demand that men not be weak,
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: but we also don't recognize that they should aim for
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: being strong like they should. They should be perceived to
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: be stronger than women, or perceived that they are trying
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: to be stronger than women. So we got this really
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: weird situation where men are expected to espouse strength but
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: not allowed to be recognized for it, and that creates
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: like a very performative type of masculinity. And I wonder
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: if in a society where we allowed ourselves to recognize
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the particular virtues that men have, how much more likely
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: would they be to have them. That's why I'm curious.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if this, this particular map doesn't just
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: reflect sort of an and inherent tendency towards more political
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: tolerance among men, but if we would have seen an
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: even bigger tendency towards tolerance if men were allowed to
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: be men and pursue the virtues that men have rather
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: than see like so, because now men are taught that
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: the way they're supposed to be is like women, and
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: the virtues that they're supposed to have are like women's virtues,
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: so they should they should embody femaleness. So there's a
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: greater tendency in male culture now, apparently to be consensus orientated,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: to not take risks to make people feel comfortable, to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: support the narrative rather than the reality of card constraints.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: So I wonder if if we looked at men seventy
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: years ago, eighty years ago, if they would have been
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: even more tended towards the tolerant.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: It's the thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, next, So let's
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: see here women, by contrast, cluster towards the bottom left
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: of the heat map, meaning that they're less tolerant and
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: more biased overall. Many women are on the bottom row
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: of the heat map, meaning load to moderate left wing
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: tolerance and zero right wing tolerance. In other words, many
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: women display extreme sensorial attitudes and only towards right wing speakers.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: The scatterplots have separated out people of each ideology, allowing
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: us to compare like with like. The heat map, however,
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: takes the raw distributions for all men and women, meaning
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that we're comparing a lot of moderate men to liberal women,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: which can potentially skew the data. To address this, we
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: can look at another heat map showing Democrats and Republicans specifically. Okay,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: all right, so here's this one. So these are male
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Democrats and male Republicans, female Democrats, female Republicans. So you
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: can see the male Democrats are centered like more or
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: less clutter towards the center slightly like you know, over here,
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: and the male Republicans are slightly over here. The female
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: ones are more so way down here. Female Democrats and
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: female Republicans even are you know down here as well.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: So okay, yeah, go ahead, you want to say something,
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Let me just take a look.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: At this just to see if I'm reading this right. Okay,
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: So left wing tolerance right, when tolerance, So as you
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: go to the top left or no, the top, you're
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: becoming more.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Tolerant, right, yes, top right, top right, Okay, all right,
• 33:46
  Speaker 3: So like if you want it, like you.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: Could turn it this way like a diamond, like turn
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: it like forty five degrees to the left, rotate it,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: and you put the most tolerance at the top and
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: the least tolerant at the bottom left and then left
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: and right like would be on the side. Yeah.
• 34:02
  Speaker 2: What's interesting is that, I mean, technically, at this point
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: in time, the Democrats really seem to be the party
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: of single women and lotting single women. It's also single men,
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: but single men who want to support single women and
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: being single. So it's like this whole meat map sort of.
• 34:24
  Speaker 2: It might be like a snapshot of what I was
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: saying that if you take men who are given something positive,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: because that's more likely to be conservative men that feel
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: that it's good to be a man, and that men
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: have unique positive traits that they give to the world,
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: that you're more likely to see tolerance. And that's what
• 34:45
  Speaker 2: you see, Like with the Republicans, you're more likely to
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: see tolerance of other ideologies, and with the Democratic men,
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: you're less likely to see tolerance of other ideologies. And honestly,
• 34:57
  Speaker 2: I don't even think that Democrats at this point really
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: have a set of ethical or or principled principled it's
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: a good word for this, like interventions, So principles and ethics.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: They just seemed to be men are bad, women are
• 35:17
  Speaker 2: good the end in a lot of ways.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Well, that was the whole twenty twenty four campaign, and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: it was like shame for men and they were and
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I think that ultimately they would have liked to have
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: gotten men's vote, but they did not have the tools
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: to woo them, and they didn't. They they were afraid
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: that if they did, for even look, because they pander,
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: they pandered to various groups. They were afraid that if
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: they tried to pander to men that women would be
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: a problem because that like women would like get angry
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: with them, So they didn't do it. Instead, they just
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: told men to step up and man up and vote
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: for vote for Harris because women. So yeah, I mean
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: the man up thing didn't it didn't work, but that
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I think that was all they had. It was kind
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: of like a bud didn't bud light do something like this?
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: Too when they tried they tried to like do this
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: thing where they kind of like uh like backhanded in
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: a in a in a backhanded way insulted men, but
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: also wanted to shame them in a buying bud light again,
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: and it didn't work, but you know, yeah, so yeah,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: it was like they don't have the tools they did.
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: And I think that's like the thing that I was
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: that I spent most when I talked about the what
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: was going on in the campaign trail and the way
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: that they were advertising. I think that was my main
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: thing is that, well, the problem is is that you
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: don't you don't not only do you not understand men,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: you don't want to understand men, you're you don't want
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: to care about what they care about. And instead you're
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: just doubling down on women and you're hoping that the
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: men will simply follow the women, and so you're using
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: shame and insults and all that, and you're using women
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: too because I don't know, if you guys remember, there
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: was like a one ad where a husband and a
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: wife go to the voting go to the polls together,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: and the wife secretly votes against her husband and keeps
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: it a secret and it was like, so it was
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: so weird because it's like, why do you think that
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: a woman would and a man, a married couple would
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: have opposing views? Like is that what you're pushing? Like
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: why would why would a married couple have like be enemies?
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: But this is what they were pushing. I guess they
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: wanted to win elections. I don't know, it was it
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: was really it was really weird.
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's let's do a lot.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: Let's keep going mm hmm. Even in the heat map, however,
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: the tolerance difference remains. Sensorial attitudes aren't really the disproportionate
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: purview of an ideology. Republicans only do marginally better than
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Democrats overall, but they are the disproportionate purview of a gender.
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: This data provides some useful insight into the diverse the
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: the drivers rather of cancel culture at colleges and beyond,
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: particularly the reasons for and dynamics around the silencing and
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: opposing of right wing speech. Well again, amazing cancel culture.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: We're actually understanding that that was a female phenomenon, Like
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: that's where it comes from. And there, I mean, I
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: guess they didn't like explicitly say cancel culture is a
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: female invention. But it is and now we're seeing it.
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: You know, well, actually, the the academic woman who I
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: spoke of at the beginning and you know the name
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: of yes, Helen Andrews, okay, and she she is saying
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: that woke is a manifestation of the feminine of how
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: women do, how how women do as it were. So
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: there you go, like it's starting to get out there
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: in the mainstream.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: It's also how women resolve conflict too, which is it's really.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: Funny because the people who push this would say would
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: explicitly say, yes, we are pursuing this is a future
• 39:10
  Speaker 2: is female thing. How women pursue consensus and narrative and
• 39:17
  Speaker 2: and you know, avoid debate and controversy and conflict. That
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: is the way the world should be. And but if
• 39:25
  Speaker 2: you turn around and say that you know this woke
• 39:29
  Speaker 2: is a result of the feminization of the workplace and
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: this is negative, then you that's not allowed. You can
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: recognize that it's happening if you recognize it's a positive thing.
• 39:41
  Speaker 2: But as soon as you recognize it's happening and you
• 39:44
  Speaker 2: recognize it might be a negative thing, then you are
• 39:47
  Speaker 2: a conspiracy theorist and a brow of some kind, some
• 39:52
  Speaker 2: flavor of bro. You know, you're just not a good person.
• 39:56
  Speaker 2: You're a misogynist. So just it's it's interesting, but but
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: she's pushing, she's pushing the overtone window at least in
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: academia to talk about this. See if it does anything,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: but you know.
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: Least more people. The more people talk about it, the better. Yeah. Yeah,
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: Helen Andrews main and I actually really liked it. She
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: this is not her work, No, this is not her work.
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: We're just there's like a lot of like basically a
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: lot of people are starting to enter the conversation. I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: already mentioned Malcolm and Simone. Helen Andrews. Also, I'm just
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: seeing this in more places, right. I think Andrew Wilson
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: was recently on Joe Rogan, which I think was it
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: was pretty good. I haven't finished it yet. I don't
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: know if they talk about women a lot. They did
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: a little bit. I'd like to see that.
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: What who was on Joe Grogan again, Andrew Wilson, Andrew Wilson,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: Andrew Wilson, Rachel Wilson's husband.
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: Oh right, yes, yes, crucible.
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I got it, I got it.
• 40:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, cool. And what I'm saying is my point is
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: is that this these conversations are getting out there more
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: and more, and they're becoming like, you know, like they're
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: they're getting to a point where they're I guess more,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know, tolerated. But that doesn't mean that like
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: we're in the free and clear anything. I'm just saying
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: like it is becoming more mainstream as time goes on,
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: So it's getting in there. But uh, yeah, well, Helen
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: Andrews specifically, her main concern I think this is good
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: because we've talked about this is this feminization is going
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: into law and so it's affecting like, you know, the
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: courts and due process. And I know you guys know
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: that this is a problem, but she's worried about it
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: becoming a really big problem. Like it is already a
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: pretty big problem, you know, not only just with family courts,
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: but also the way we do sentencing for you know,
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: criminal behavior, the way that we that way that we
• 41:51
  Speaker 1: treat them, and and that feminists are not feminists women.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: They tend to look at things like consensus and context
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: over like being objective on the law and so as
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: like the legal system, and there's more women in law school,
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: there's more women getting law degrees, there's more women entering,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: you know, the court system. It's Helen says that this
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: is going to be a problem, like if we don't
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: address this, there's going to be like serious like legal
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: issues coming down the pipe. I think that she's right.
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: So yeah, all right, anyway, so right, yeah, cancel culture.
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: It's not that women are especially sensorial towards right wing
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: or dissenting views. Rather, it's a combination of women being
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: more sensorial in general and tending towards being left leaning.
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: Another likely, though not corroborated by our data, contributing factor
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: is the fact that people who are more biased, which
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: the data shows women tend to be, also tend to
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: be more aggressive in implementing their sensorial attitudes. So yeah,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: so I would say that this is the thing that
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I wanted to comment on this really briefly. I think
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: that a truly right wing woman is actually really, really
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: really rare. There are women who say they're a Republican,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: there are women who call themselves conservative, But when you
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: look at how they act, which I think is more
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: important than what they say they are, they act like
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: feminists like they're all still just feminists. And feminism is
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: a left wing ideology because it is built on these
• 43:19
  Speaker 1: same principles of you know, not needing men, being willing
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: to use power to censor people, to dominate the conversation
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: so that your worldview is the only worldview, and that
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: is i ultimately is rooted in a desire for safety
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: in your ideology, like I want to feel that what
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: I believe is true, which is why they tend to
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: be more censorious towards people who are in general, for
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: people who tend to be like against their bias, because
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: they want their bias like it's affirming and it's secure,
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: and so they will push people out that are like
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: against that or even might you know, they threaten to
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: expose that. It's kind of like when Alison gets into
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: arguments with people and she's like asking them demonstrate patriarchy
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: and they and you know, they'll just try to like
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: insult her or or just reaffirm it like, oh, no,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: it exists. It's only does because because I'm afraid, because
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: I live in fear, that means this thing is real.
• 44:14
  Speaker 1: So this is what I'm saying. And you look at
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: the chart, you can see that like, left wing men
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: are more tolerant of their enemies than right wing women
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: are of their friends because they're not really right wing,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: they're not living up to those values, they just identify
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: that way. And I think that most women are still feminists.
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Like it's like even most men are still feminists of
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: some stripe, you know, Like they will accept that ideology.
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: They will They'll say, well, if we don't have that,
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: women might end up in cages, you know, so we
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: got to like preserve it. Like this still goes on
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: all the time. So anyway, so let's see. Another likely,
• 44:56
  Speaker 1: though not corroborated by our data, contibuting factor is the
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: fact that people who are more biased, which data shows
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: women tend to be, also tend to be more aggressive
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: in implementing their sensorial attitudes. And although the more recent
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: surges of cancel culture on the right implicates more men
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: than left wing cancel culture, since men are more likely
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: to be on the right, right wing women are more
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: likely to endorse censorship of the left. So why does
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: the substantial gender gap exist?
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: Hmm, here we're getting to the meet.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, why fired data doesn't give us a confident answer,
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: But these findings are consistent with decades of literature investigating
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: political tolerance or support for censorship, which show that men
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: are on average more tolerant and less sensorial than women.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: The data does rule out a few possibilities. You might wonder,
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: for instance, whether women are more sensorial due to being
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: more personally affected by the positions of the hypothetical speakers
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: are surveys asked about. However, only one of the speakers
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: argues for a position that is disproportionately affects women, which
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: is barring abortion, for example, and the gender gap isn't
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: greater for this speaker, so that doesn't seem to be
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: what's causing the gap. My suspicion, corroborated by our research,
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: is that women have much stronger general opposition to speech
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: that may cause emotional discomfort and a preference for harmonious.
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, all right, this is my question to women like this,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: Do you not notice that everyone is terrified in your environments?
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: Like I enter, I I know the instant I'm in
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: an environment that is controlled by women's consensus, and I
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: know I'm in an environment controlled by women's consensus because
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: I get an immediate flare up of my uh my
• 46:50
  Speaker 2: my physical health problems, you know, those those the weird pains,
• 46:54
  Speaker 2: the migrain, the stomach tightening, the churning of and the
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: and the tingling, and your freaking extremities, you know, and
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: and the feeling like you're gonna shit yourself constantly. Every
• 47:09
  Speaker 2: time I'm in a female environment, I get the fear
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: it's horrible, Like these environments are horrifically awful to exist in.
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: Do women not notice that? Do they not notice that
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: everybody's walking on eggi shells? Everybody's terrified of putting a
• 47:29
  Speaker 2: foot wrong. If you have the least amount of social inability,
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: like you're not, you're like you're slightly autistic or massively
• 47:37
  Speaker 2: like autistic, like me, you know that you have entered
• 47:41
  Speaker 2: a minefield and the least amount of movement wrong will
• 47:45
  Speaker 2: cause your world to warp into a freaking hellscape. And
• 47:51
  Speaker 2: they construct this and they sit in it and they
• 47:54
  Speaker 2: think it's wonderful. Why why are you like this?
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: I don't think they. I don't think they are. I
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: think they are uncomfortable. Maybe maybe they're maybe it's uh,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: maybe they are uncomfortable. Me just turn on my light
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: and they but they don't want to tell anyone because
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: they don't want to stand out.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Like what what is it? Why are women? Why do
• 48:21
  Speaker 2: women want to create an environment like that? Like why
• 48:25
  Speaker 2: do they want to live like that? Like it's it's
• 48:29
  Speaker 2: a nightmare existence. I mean I remember going, Okay, so
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: there's a home math, and home Math took over this
• 48:37
  Speaker 2: forum and there were a bunch of women in this forum,
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: and I would go into the chat and you just know,
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: you know, the instant women are are in charge and
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: setting the agenda, and it's just like everything tightens because
• 48:50
  Speaker 2: you're ready. You're ready for the blind side, the psychotic
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: bullshit that's going to come out, And like I said,
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: everyone's walking on eggs. I had this guy come up
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: to me in one of the conferences conventions that I
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: actually was able to go to before the mean girls
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: kicked me out, you know, and he said the same thing,
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: even though he was like, oh, I think you are
• 49:11
  Speaker 2: politically like on I just just sit down. There we go,
• 49:16
  Speaker 2: there are we go. I'm gonna give you a squish,
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: all right, I'm gonna get a squish. Even though I'm
• 49:21
  Speaker 2: politically on the other side of you, I feel less,
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: I feel less worried about talking to you. Than people
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: on my own side. I'm like, yes, those are the
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: eggshells you're constantly walking on. But and then they talk
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: about this like this this women's environment, like it's so
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: much better. It's like, oh, it's apathetic. I'm like, are
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: you kidding me? Are you kidding me? Walking around like
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: you don't know when somebody's gonna come out and tear
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: your face off. That's more empathetic, is it? It feels
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: more like you're living in the in the nest, the
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: alien queen from alien you know what I mean? Just
• 50:04
  Speaker 2: there like, Okay, when's when's it gonna be my turn
• 50:09
  Speaker 2: to be to be forcibly fed to something? And and
• 50:13
  Speaker 2: and it's like, and this is this is compassion?
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: Is it?
• 50:17
  Speaker 2: This is this is women's greater empathy. Living in a
• 50:21
  Speaker 2: nightmare of trip wires and you never know which one
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: is going to go off. I think I think women
• 50:30
  Speaker 2: really need to think about this and this behavior.
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: But but I honestly I don't see it happening. All right,
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: let's let's keep going.
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: Okay, let's see you might let me see Wait wait
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: wait where did I leave off? Oh? Yeah, here we go.
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: So what do we do about this. Obviously, allowing all speakers,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: no matter how controversial, and disallowing shutdowns or administrative censorship
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: is vital to free speech and open inquiry. For the
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: research to determine what drives people to censorship and what
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: can make them less sensorial would be very valuable. Do
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: courses that teach critical thinking and responding to ideologically diverse
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: political arguments help? Do university sponsored free speech or open
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: debate events help? We need data to know. But some
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: of these things may move the needles substantially. So they're
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: talking about basically allowing it, like educating people on it.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: Yes, that would be good, But nobody will allow you
• 51:35
  Speaker 2: to educate women on how they are wrong runs the schools. Ye,
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: nobody's gonna accept that. Nobody's gonna say we need to
• 51:42
  Speaker 2: take female undergraduates and tell them that they their ovaries
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: make them naturally censorious and they need to fight it.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: No, maybe with a regular infusion of some testosterone. I'll
• 52:00
  Speaker 2: leave that there, and what I might have been implying.
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So let's see beyond the above, we must
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: do one crucial thing. Never abide censorship. The consequences of
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: allowing sensorial minded people, no matter how well well intentioned
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: to call, the shots and control discourse on campus have
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: proved to be calamitous. Anyone who seeks to stifle debate
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: for the sake of our harmoniousness or emotional comfort must
• 52:31
  Speaker 1: be publicly reminded that our most vital tool for setting
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: right our wrongs depends upon having the strength to face
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: often uncomfortable opinions openly. I blame women.
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: I blame women, and you can't stop me that when
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: we are able to blame women with the freedom and
• 52:50
  Speaker 2: joy and shear, you know, spirit of life, that we
• 52:56
  Speaker 2: blame men, then we might be getting somewhere.
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like we just I.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: Mean, honestly, people blame men. They just I just there
• 53:06
  Speaker 2: was there was this meme that's going around where zoomer
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: men are blaming boomer and gen X men for feminism,
• 53:15
  Speaker 2: and you know, and I understand the resentment, but you
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: realize that gen x and boomer men were not that
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: racist really, and uh maybe a little bit, but nothing
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: like is being portrayed, and uh, they're sneaking in this
• 53:34
  Speaker 2: whole intersectional virtue, this whole feminine virtue system into and
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: then they're also excusing women at the same time, you know,
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: into the conversation, it's like, no, it's not Boomer and
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: gen X men who are to blame, it's Boomer and
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: gen X women. Like, honestly, at some point, women have
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: to take responsibility for what they ask from, what they
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: demand of men, what they insist men do. You gotta
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: take responsibility and not just blame men for having done it,
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: because that's just gonna get another damn round of this
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: nonsense anyway. But it's like we just default onto blaming men.
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: And I see this all the time. I'm like, Okay,
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: all right, guys, we're gonna blame women. Are we all ready?
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: We're all behind blaming women. Now we're gonna do this.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: We're gonna blame women. We're gonna manage it this time,
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: and we're good. We're gonna storm that peak. We're gonna
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: do it. We're gonna get up in the top of
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: that hill and we're gonna be blaming women. And then
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: I start up and almost immediately the guys who am like,
• 54:45
  Speaker 2: we're gonna go up on the top of the hill,
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: We're gonna blame women, they're all like they're immediately diverted
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: into new ways of blaming men. I'm like, no, we
• 54:53
  Speaker 2: talked about this. We're blaming women. Now we're gonna do it.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: We're gonna do it. We're all on board here. We're
• 55:00
  Speaker 2: not going to divert into blaming gen Z men or
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: white men, or gay men or or whatever group of men.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: We're actually going to blame women for once. And almost
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: immediately they scatter like a herd of cats towards blaming
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: men and a different configuration. Well what if we actually
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: blame men, but we blame this new group of men
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: that we've just identified. Do you think do you think
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: we could do that? Would we we could do that? Like,
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: but you know that that that seems to make lot
• 55:29
  Speaker 2: more sense than blaming women. What a surprise. It's anyway,
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: let's keep going.
• 55:37
  Speaker 1: Yep. So I'm looking at this is the end of
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: the article. So that was the end of the article.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: But they did put links to some other studies in
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: the In the actual article, there were some hot links,
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: and I'm just looking at where those links go. Okay,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: and they're all like different studies on what was that?
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: I say, you're doing something sensible.
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's it's all basically coming to
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: the same conclusions. So, so who wants to censor pornography
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: and hate speech? In short? Women more than men? And
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: it's not just like right wing women or.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: What is the frame? It is pornography and hate speech.
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: Why not just.
• 56:25
  Speaker 2: Approaching problems in different ways.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Well, it's it's like drawing the line on free on
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: free speech and free expression. So they're but they're like,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: what are the where are the lines usually drawn hate
• 56:35
  Speaker 1: speech and pornography? That's why. So it's like that's what
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: that's where we draw the line, like as a society,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: right generally, So that's why they they I think that's
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: what they're studying, because like, what else would you do
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: other than that foul language? Mm hmm maybe because like
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: hate speech would be like racial slurs, you know, slurs
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: about people's sexuality, slurs maybe slurs towards women, like calling
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: them bitches or cunts or something. Uh, and then pornography.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: So I think that's why. Yeah, so yeah, so like
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think that's here, but who wants to censor
• 57:21
  Speaker 1: pornography and hate speech? But yeah, that one, that one
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: was women if I remember correctly when I looked at it,
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: then we have oh shit, this tab gender differences in
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: moral foundations a meta analytic approach, and then it says
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: here women showed higher moral concerns than men, but to
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: a different magnitude. And it was like looking at things
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: like fairness slash cheap fringness versus cheating, purity versus degradation,
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: authority versus subversion yielded smaller differences than harm versus care. Ah,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: So like that there, that's like a different way of
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: looking at this. This study too could be interesting if
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: you wanted to look at it. And then I have
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: this one from the Journal of Applied Social Psychology, Political Ideology,
• 58:14
  Speaker 1: and Attitudes towards Censorship, And this one also concluded let
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: me see if I can just find the say, yeah,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: women were more favorably inclined towards censorship than men. M
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: all right, yeah, it's easily across the board. Women like
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: the censor.
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: And it surprises anyone, or shouldn't, Yeah, it shouldn't. What well,
• 58:39
  Speaker 2: I mean, it shouldn't surprise anyone, except that the way
• 58:41
  Speaker 2: it works is if we recognize that women like the censor,
• 58:44
  Speaker 2: that's a good thing because they're making everybody happier. But
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: if we recognize that women like the censor and that's
• 58:51
  Speaker 2: a bad thing, then we're that's wrong. You can recognize
• 58:55
  Speaker 2: it only if it's a good thing. Yep, yep, all right,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: I'm I'm Did you want to walk through one more?
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: No, that's that's that's I think that's good. I mean,
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I think this is good for like
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: an hour.
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: Do you have any thank you to give or anything
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: like that?
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I should should take a look and
• 59:18
  Speaker 2: see we did get okay, FS put twenty five, two
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: and fifty in the hat this morning, but I oh,
• 59:25
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