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- 0:00Welcome to Loud and Lifted Quick Lift, where
- 0:02we take the biggest takeaways from a full episode
- 0:04and turn them into something practical you can
- 0:07use this week, all in 10 minutes or less. I'm
- 0:10your host, Betsy Hamm. I sat down with Lia Garvin,
- 0:13author of the new manager playbook, to talk about
- 0:15how we can become better managers, and specifically,
- 0:19how we recognize the things we might be doing
- 0:21that are making it harder for our teams to succeed.
- 0:24because we have had plenty of conversations on
- 0:27this podcast about bad bosses. And it's usually
- 0:30pretty easy to think of someone who fits that
- 0:32description. It gets a little bit more uncomfortable
- 0:35when we ask what our own teams would say about
- 0:38us. You might care about your people, have high
- 0:41expectations, and work really hard to support
- 0:44them, but still have habits that are getting
- 0:47in their way. That's what made this conversation
- 0:50so useful. Leah gave us specific things to look
- 0:53for and changes we can actually make. So let's
- 0:57walk through the key takeaways and what you can
- 0:59do with them. The first takeaway is that being
- 1:01good at your job and being good at managing people
- 1:04are different skills. We talked about how often
- 1:07someone gets promoted because they're great at
- 1:09what they do. You're an amazing salesperson.
- 1:11So now you get to manage the sales team. You
- 1:14know the business inside and out. So suddenly
- 1:16you have five people reporting to you. But nobody
- 1:19necessarily teaches you how to coach someone,
- 1:23address performance issues, or delegate without
- 1:26taking everything back. I share that early in
- 1:28my career, I wanted to keep moving up. I wanted
- 1:30the title, the opportunity, the compensation,
- 1:33all the things that come with growing your career.
- 1:35But I don't think I fully understood the responsibility
- 1:37that came with having people report to me. And
- 1:41part of that responsibility is accepting that
- 1:43your success now depends on how you help other
- 1:46people succeed. You can't keep measuring your
- 1:49value only by how much work you personally get
- 1:52done. Your action item here is to identify one
- 1:55management skill you need to develop. Be specific.
- 1:58Maybe it's do you avoid difficult conversations
- 2:01or you struggle to give useful feedback or you
- 2:04don't know how to delegate clearly. Then decide
- 2:07where you're going to get the support. whether
- 2:09that's asking an experienced leader, working
- 2:11with a coach, or finding a training you can put
- 2:13into practice. You don't have to know everything
- 2:16because you have the title. You just have to
- 2:19be open to keep learning. The second takeaway
- 2:21is that being involved in everything can prevent
- 2:24your team from growing. Leah described three
- 2:27patterns worth paying attention to. You're in
- 2:29every meeting. You're making every decision,
- 2:31and when someone asks for more responsibility,
- 2:34you struggle to give them something meaningful.
- 2:36And I can see easily how this happens. You know
- 2:39the client, you know the history, and you can
- 2:41probably answer the question faster. It feels
- 2:44helpful to jump in. But if you're always there
- 2:48to answer, decide, and solve, when does someone
- 2:51else get to learn? This also affects your own
- 2:54growth. If you want a bigger role, but everything
- 2:56in your current role depends on you, you haven't
- 2:59created much room to move forward. So your action
- 3:02item here is to find one place where you can
- 3:04give someone more ownership this week. It might
- 3:07be leading a meeting, making a decision, or managing
- 3:10a project you have been holding onto. Have a
- 3:14conversation about what success looks like, what
- 3:16they can decide, and when you'll check in. Then
- 3:19give them enough a space to actually do it. And
- 3:22the next time someone asks you what to do, try
- 3:24asking, what do you recommend? Before offering
- 3:27your answer. You may still need to coach them
- 3:29through it, but you're giving them an opportunity
- 3:32to build judgment instead of waiting for yours.
- 3:35The third takeaway is that a lack of urgency
- 3:37might actually be a lack of clarity. This one
- 3:41is so practical because I think most of us have
- 3:44experienced the frustration of asking for something
- 3:46and wondering why it hasn't happened yet. Meanwhile,
- 3:50the other person may have no idea you expected
- 3:52it today. Leah suggested that when you hand something
- 3:55off, give a deadline, explain why that timing
- 3:59matters and check whether it's doable. So instead
- 4:02of saying, hey, can you follow up with that client?
- 4:04You might say, can you follow up by tomorrow
- 4:06afternoon? We need their approval before we can
- 4:09finalize the order on Friday. What else on your
- 4:12plate might affect this? This gives the person
- 4:15context and a chance to raise a concern before
- 4:18you're both frustrated. And I added another piece
- 4:21during our conversation because I have absolutely
- 4:23learned this one by messing it up. Be clear about
- 4:26who owns it. I've been in leadership meetings
- 4:28where a project touched several departments and
- 4:31I thought we had a good conversation about what
- 4:33needed to happen next. Then we come back a week
- 4:36later and nothing had moved because everyone
- 4:39thought someone else was handling it. Collaboration
- 4:42is great, but we still need one person accountable
- 4:45for moving the project forward. Your action item
- 4:48is to use the next assignment as a clarity check.
- 4:51Does someone clearly own it? Have you agreed
- 4:54on the deadline and explained why it matters?
- 4:57Have you asked what might get in the way? That
- 5:00conversation upfront can save a lot of follow
- 5:03-up later. The next takeaway is that your leadership
- 5:06needs to hold up when things get difficult. Leah
- 5:10asked a question I really liked. What qualities
- 5:12do you want to embody as a manager, especially
- 5:15when you're under pressure? Because it's easy
- 5:18to be encouraging and cheerleader -y when everything
- 5:21is going well. It's harder when someone makes
- 5:24a mistake, a deadline gets missed, or you're
- 5:26getting pressure from your own boss. That's when
- 5:29your team learns what they can expect from you.
- 5:32If you want to be approachable, what happens
- 5:34when someone brings you bad news? If you want
- 5:37to be direct, can you clearly address a performance
- 5:40issue with someone you really like? If you want
- 5:44to be supportive, can you help someone work through
- 5:46a mistake while still holding them accountable?
- 5:49Your action item is to choose two qualities you
- 5:52want people to experience in your leadership.
- 5:54Then think about a recent difficult situation
- 5:56and ask yourself whether those qualities showed
- 5:58up in your behavior. You might even share what
- 6:01you're working on with your team. But... If you
- 6:04invite feedback, make sure you're prepared to
- 6:06listen when someone gives it. How you respond
- 6:09will affect whether they do it again. The last
- 6:12takeaway is to make your existing conversations
- 6:15more useful. This doesn't require adding another
- 6:18meeting to everyone's calendar. It starts with
- 6:20looking at what you're doing and the meetings
- 6:22you already have. I mentioned in the interview
- 6:25that I've had managers tell me, well, I have
- 6:27weekly one -on -ones with my people. And my question
- 6:30is, OK, but what are you talking about? Because
- 6:33the meeting itself doesn't tell us whether someone
- 6:35is getting what they need. If you spend the entire
- 6:38conversation going through updates, you may never
- 6:40learn where they're struggling, what they're
- 6:41excited about, or what they want to do next.
- 6:45Leah shared that she once asked a manager for
- 6:47more responsibility and was offered the opportunity
- 6:49to take notes in a meeting. She wanted a chance
- 6:52to develop, and her manager hadn't understood
- 6:54what she was even asking for. That's a useful
- 6:57reminder to ask a follow -up question instead
- 6:59of assuming we know. Your action item is to leave
- 7:02room in your next one -on -one to ask, what would
- 7:05you like more experience doing? Or where are
- 7:08you getting stuck and what kind of support do
- 7:10you need from me? Then connect what you hear
- 7:13to something you can follow through on. Maybe
- 7:15there's a project they can lead, an introduction
- 7:18you can make, or a decision you need to clarify.
- 7:21Those conversations help you understand your
- 7:24people well enough to support their growth. So
- 7:27as you think about all of this, It can feel overwhelming,
- 7:30but just choose one place to start. You probably
- 7:34recognize something that could use your attention,
- 7:36whether that's holding on too tightly, being
- 7:39unclear about expectations, or rushing through
- 7:42conversations with your team. Pick one action
- 7:45and try it this week. Then pay attention to what
- 7:48changes. Leadership takes practice, and that
- 7:52practice happens in these everyday moments. If
- 7:55you haven't listened to the full conversation
- 7:57with Leah, please do so and you'll find the links
- 8:00for Leah's new manager playbook in the show notes.
- 8:03And if you're getting something out of Latin
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- 8:07and leave a review. It helps more women find
- 8:10these conversations. Thanks for listening and
- 8:13until next time, stay loud and keep lifting.