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The Rita Panahi Show | 10 September · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scorns Ostrodia. This is the Wider Panalty Show.
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Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Paney Show.
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Speaker 3: Coming up tonight, Britney Higgins forced to pay.
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Speaker 2: Former Boslanda Reynolds legal costs.
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Speaker 3: Lawyer Sam Macedoni will break down the latest developments.
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Speaker 4: C J.
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Speaker 3: Pearson has the latest from the US, including the fallout
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Speaker 3: from the horrific murder of a young woman that has
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Speaker 3: sparked heater debate on race and violence, and later in
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Speaker 3: the hour we'll look at Wikipedia's corruption of information. Ashley
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Speaker 3: Rinsburg will explose the latest assault on freedom of information
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Speaker 3: and Left He's losing it. Tonight features a clash between
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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson and billionaire Mark Cuban.
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Speaker 5: How much money have you sent to Ukraine?
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Speaker 6: None?
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Speaker 7: Oh?
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Speaker 5: So what do you mean by we? You're the one
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Speaker 5: who's family's from Ukraine? Like, why don't you send them
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Speaker 5: a million dollars?
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Speaker 3: Let's bring in it sky. New contributor Tina McQueen. Tina
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Speaker 3: workers on Australia's largest and most expensive renewable energy projects,
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Speaker 3: No Hydro two point oh will receive up up front
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Speaker 3: pay rises of at least fifty thousand dollars under a
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Speaker 3: new deal, they will see their annual wages sorted three
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Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars, significantly increasing labor costs on the troubled
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Speaker 3: twelve billion dollar project Tina. This is another gift from
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Speaker 3: Malcolm Turbul, the gift that keeps on giving.
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Speaker 4: Well, a gift that was originally two billion dollars has
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Speaker 4: blown out to sixteen billion dollars. And what's even worse,
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Speaker 4: They've been given these magnificent rates of pay and bonuses
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Speaker 4: and everything else, but they haven't guaranteed anything return. There's
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Speaker 4: no kepis, there's no you know, saying.
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Speaker 2: What will you do for us?
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Speaker 5: It's just you deserve this, You're going to get it.
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Speaker 1: Where do you sign up? Reader?
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Speaker 4: I mean you and I should be digging tunnels. It
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Speaker 4: sounds like a good gig for the money.
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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if I want to be part of
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Speaker 3: a project, you know, sending water upstream and then downstream.
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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm still wondering how the whole concept works. Now,
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Speaker 3: that's all about the University of Melbourne law professor their
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Speaker 3: doctor Eric desh Maker probably mispronounced that, has launched a
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Speaker 3: discrimination lawsuit against the university, claiming it was out to
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Speaker 3: get him after he said that indigenous activists were leading
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Speaker 3: the one hundred and seventy two year old institution to destruction.
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Speaker 3: The case is going to go to trial next year.
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Speaker 3: TITA doctor Desha Maker claims that the University of Melbourne
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Speaker 3: took adverse action against him by suspending his employment due
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Speaker 3: to his political opinion. Well, it's not hard to believe
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Speaker 3: that when you're talking about a university in Australia, they
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Speaker 3: have been utterly hijacked by the left. The lefts march
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Speaker 3: through the institutions started in education and if you are
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Speaker 3: center right or even just a centrist, I think you
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Speaker 3: would have a hard time at most Australian universities.
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Speaker 4: Well it's not even that reader. Even if you just
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Speaker 4: make some common sense remarks, you can be penalized, which
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Speaker 4: is what happened to this stopt to now.
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Speaker 2: Originally not a lot of notice.
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Speaker 4: Was taken until one of his colleagues made a complaint,
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Speaker 4: which forced his attention, has enforced all.
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Speaker 3: The legal action.
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Speaker 1: I feel very sorry for him.
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Speaker 4: But he has to keep on a fight because he's
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Speaker 4: absolutely right. You shouldn't be sacked for an opinion or.
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Speaker 1: Being of a political suasion.
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Speaker 2: Persuasion.
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Speaker 4: The university may not agree with. It's absolutely disgraceful, but
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Speaker 4: it happens all the time in universities.
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Speaker 2: It's now happening just in life.
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Speaker 4: We all have to be very careful what we say are,
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Speaker 4: particularly regarding the indigenous industries.
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Speaker 2: So that's how life is reader.
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Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Tina McQueen, thank you so much for your time tonight.
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Speaker 3: Former Liberal Senator Linda Reynold's defamation case against X staffer
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Speaker 3: Britney Higgins has come to an end, with West Australian.
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Speaker 2: Supreme Court Justice Paul Tottle.
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Speaker 3: Ruling that Britney Higgins must pay her former boss eighty
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Speaker 3: percent of her legal costs, amounting to approximately one point
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Speaker 3: five million dollars. That's on top of the three hundred
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Speaker 3: and forty thousand in damages and interest already awarded. Justice
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Speaker 3: Paul Tottle's judgment also revealed that Higgins initially offered Reynolds
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Speaker 3: two hundred thousand dollars with a mutual statement of regret
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Speaker 3: before the case went to trial. Now that so called
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Speaker 3: mutual statement of regret would have required Linda Reynolds acknowledging
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Speaker 3: Britney Higgins believed she was not given appropriate support after
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Speaker 3: being allegedly raped in Parliament House. Joining me now for
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Speaker 3: more on this is a Macedoni legal principle, Sam Macedoni Sam.
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Speaker 3: The judge found that that settlement offer, tabled just four
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Speaker 3: days before the trial was scheduled to begin, could not
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Speaker 3: be considered reasonable.
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Speaker 8: No, it was simply a contribution towards Miss Reynolds costs,
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Speaker 8: which were well in excess of the two hundred thousand dollars.
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Speaker 8: In any event, it contained no form of vindication as
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Speaker 8: to her reputation, It didn't include any sort of an apology,
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Speaker 8: and there was no admission of liability, so to speak. So,
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Speaker 8: in aller the circumstances he's on a found that the
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Speaker 8: offer was nowhere near an apology and therefore it was
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Speaker 8: rightly rejected by Miss Reynolds.
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Speaker 3: Now, could this judgment potentially bankrupt Britney Higgins? The money
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Speaker 3: she received the two point four million dollars settlement was
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Speaker 3: placed into a trust. Does that mean Linda reynolds legal
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Speaker 3: team can't get their hands on it?
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Speaker 2: Is those funds inaccessible.
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Speaker 8: Look, there's always ways and means of getting to trust funds,
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Speaker 8: but if nothing else, if that isn't available, she will
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Speaker 8: no doubt be declared bankrupt because she won't be able
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Speaker 8: to pay the money that she has to pay, which
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Speaker 8: is around about one point five million at the end
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Speaker 8: of the day. And if she's bankrupted, then any trustee
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Speaker 8: in bankruptcy will call in all of her assets and
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Speaker 8: anything that she has an entitlement to pay off that debt.
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Speaker 8: So I don't think that she'll be able to hide
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Speaker 8: behind the trust forever, and it is a debt that
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Speaker 8: will follow her for a long long time until it's paid.
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Speaker 3: Was this a massive miscalculation from her legal team? Why
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Speaker 3: did they go ahead with this case or why do
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Speaker 3: they not make a more significant offer to settle given
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Speaker 3: the odds of this happening that she could be left
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Speaker 3: bankrupt at the end of this trial.
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Speaker 8: Mainly because lawyers have to do what they're instructed to do.
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Speaker 8: Their advice may very well have been a lot different,
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Speaker 8: But if they were instructed to make an offer of
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Speaker 8: two hundred thousand towards legal costs only, then that's the
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Speaker 8: offer that was made. As far as proceeding with the matter,
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Speaker 8: they must follow instruction, So whether they believe that she
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Speaker 8: would win or not, they had to go ahead and
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Speaker 8: do the best they could.
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Speaker 7: Now.
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Speaker 3: Linda Reynolds has called on the alban Easy government to
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Speaker 3: stop its lawyers from fighting against a worker's compensation claim
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Speaker 3: lodged by her former chief of staff, fa Brown, who
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Speaker 3: was falsely accused of covering up this alleged rape of
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Speaker 3: Britney Higgins. Linda Reynolds told the Australian newspaper it is
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Speaker 3: clear to me and so many others that Fiona suffered
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Speaker 3: a grave injustice that has yet to be righted. My
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Speaker 3: message to the Prime Minister is, even if you will
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Speaker 3: not apologize for the dammage you and Labor have done,
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Speaker 3: please do the right thing now and compensate Fiona for
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Speaker 3: the terrible dammage you inflicted on her so her healing
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Speaker 3: can finally start. Please Sam Fyoda Brown I think is
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Speaker 3: undeniably one of the victims of this saga.
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Speaker 8: Without any doubt in the world, she was virtually accused
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Speaker 8: of covering up the rape that Higgins said had occurred
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Speaker 8: to her. Now that cover up was totally set aside
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Speaker 8: by his honor, Justice Lee when he said there is
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Speaker 8: no such thing as a cover up by Brown. Therefore,
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Speaker 8: she was wrongly accused of doing a rather horrible thing
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Speaker 8: and I can understand how she has been damaged in
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Speaker 8: reputation and in financially, and therefore she should be compensated.
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Speaker 8: And I think the government came too quick to offer
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Speaker 8: Britney higgin Higgins two point four million, and yet they're
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Speaker 8: barking at offering this woman who was wrongly convicted of
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Speaker 8: doing something she didn't do, and they're fighting a compensation claim.
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Speaker 8: They should be out there negotiating a settlement as quickly
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Speaker 8: as possible.
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Speaker 3: Absolutely, it's salt in to the wounds, and we know
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Speaker 3: the terrible personal costs. She's spoken about how low she
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Speaker 3: got with with this ordeal. Sam Macedoni, thank you so
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Speaker 3: much for your.
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Speaker 2: Time tonight, Thank you, thank you. Still to come a
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Speaker 2: left he is Losing It plus c J.
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Speaker 3: Pearson as the latest from the US, including the fallout
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Speaker 3: from the horrific murder of a young Ukrainian refugee.
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Speaker 2: You're watching the Reader Paney Show, and it's time for Left.
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Speaker 3: He's losing it and we're going to have some shameful
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Speaker 3: antics from CNN shortly.
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Speaker 2: You will not believe how low they have sunk.
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Speaker 3: But let's start tonight with the leader of the Free
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Speaker 3: world facing down demented protests ruining everyone's dinner.
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Speaker 2: President Trump was a.
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Speaker 3: Joe's Stone crab in DC to enjoy a meal with
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Speaker 3: a vp jd vance. Michael Arrubio was there, Pete Hexeth,
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Speaker 3: thank you.
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Speaker 1: That you have a six sitting them.
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Speaker 3: But it wasn't long until the usual suspects were ruining
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Speaker 3: everyone's delicious crab meals with their craze, screeching about freeing DC,
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Speaker 3: freeing Palestine, and they were also calling President Trump Hitler.
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Speaker 3: Watch the President walk towards them as they made spectacles
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Speaker 3: of themselves now international spectacles. Now Here is a hint
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Speaker 3: for the diabolically dumb women in that clip. If Trump
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Speaker 3: was Hitler, if it was a modern day dictator, you
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Speaker 3: would never be seen again. You think you can scream
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Speaker 3: insults to I don't know, Jijiping or Kim Jong un.
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Speaker 3: If you did, you'd be in a labor camp or
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Speaker 3: dead in quick time. Now to a delightful clash between
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Speaker 3: Tucker Carlson and billionaire and dimwit Mark Cuban. Yes, he's
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Speaker 3: both unusual combination. I know here they are discussing funding
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Speaker 3: for Ukraine.
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Speaker 9: Half my family's Ukrainian from my grandparents, and so you know,
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Speaker 9: personally I think we should help, but I don't have
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Speaker 9: a studied answer for you.
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Speaker 5: Have you said how much money have you sent Ukraine?
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Speaker 6: None?
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Speaker 5: So what do you mean by we? You're the one
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Speaker 5: who's family's from Ukraine? Like, why don't you send a
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Speaker 5: billion dollars?
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Speaker 1: Because I'm trying to fix health care?
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Speaker 5: Why do you fix their healthcare? If you're like so deep,
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Speaker 5: if you think we need to help, why don't you start?
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Speaker 1: How about you?
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Speaker 5: First?
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Speaker 1: I noticed that's never.
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Speaker 5: Like even an option for anybody.
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Speaker 1: It's like, we need to help. That's not what chaired is.
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Speaker 5: Forcing other people to help is not charity.
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Speaker 3: Here's a good entity love that we need more Carson v.
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Speaker 3: Cuban content in our lives. Now to another clash, but
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Speaker 3: this one was very much one side, and despite the
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Speaker 3: best efforts of MSNBC host Mika Brazinski, Watch Our Borders,
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Speaker 3: Our Tom Homan demolishes her ridiculous claims and calls out
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Speaker 3: her earlier misleading coverage of ICE operations.
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Speaker 9: I see on the should this morning, you have Governor
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Speaker 9: Heally talking about ICE doing enforcement.
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Speaker 7: Operations at a church involve they were parked there, They
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Speaker 7: didn't do an operation there. She said they were parked
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Speaker 7: in a public space.
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Speaker 9: Legally, but to see that and to push it out
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Speaker 9: there with fear in the immigrant community.
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Speaker 4: So let me tell you to.
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Speaker 7: Agent's vehicle there on a park street.
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Speaker 1: They're on the public street, on a public street.
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Speaker 9: Waiting to respond to a criminal alien release pulled outside
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Speaker 9: the road. Let me tell you in the last couple
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Speaker 9: of days, what's happened in Boston. They've arrested Victor Goldbetz Paris,
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Speaker 9: the thirty three year old criminal alily from Guatemala with
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Speaker 9: charges of aggravated rape, assaultant batty with dangerous weapon in
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Speaker 9: decent assault, and battery on a victim fourteen years or younger.
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Speaker 9: They arrested Katie Espinoza, thirty fe year old criminal alien
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Speaker 9: from Columbia, with charges of aggravators assault on a pregnant victim.
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Speaker 9: They arrested Joshua Gonzalez, a twenty four year old criminal
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Speaker 9: alien from Dominican Republic, with charges for trafficking heroin, morphine, opium,
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Speaker 9: resisting police, dislready conduct, and drug distribution. They also arrested
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Speaker 9: Samuel Armanda Barrero, a twenty year old criminal illegal ali
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Speaker 9: from Guatemlo Opendon charges for sault and battery on a child.
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Speaker 9: For this past year, I've seen innocent Americans raped and
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Speaker 9: bird by people who are not supposed to be here.
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Speaker 9: So rather than going back and forth saying, well, I
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Speaker 9: got a current park near a church that.
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Speaker 3: Is ridiculous, ridiculous indeed, but Mica was not done yet.
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Speaker 3: Having hit rock bottom, she decided to start digging.
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Speaker 7: I would argue that actually that the ice vehicle parked
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Speaker 7: upside a Spanish mass is a frightening site given what
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Speaker 7: has happened in this country. I also, with respect, sir,
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Speaker 7: thank you for the information that you have shared on
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Speaker 7: this show, but we would appreciate all of the information,
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Speaker 7: all of it, all of the data that you have.
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Speaker 9: I've done this show several times. Every time on your show,
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Speaker 9: I speak with integrity, I speak with honesty, and I
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Speaker 9: speak with facts. The bottom line is, because of all
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Speaker 9: the Fausari and you used the term disappearing people.
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Speaker 7: To the group, that.
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Speaker 3: Essentially, she is determined to make a monumental full of
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Speaker 3: herself repeating these debunked Democrat talking points. Even some Democrats,
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Speaker 3: the sensible ones, have stopped making these claims, but not
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Speaker 3: Maker and not MSNBC.
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Speaker 2: They are going down with the ship.
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Speaker 7: Why a lot of these people have been disappeared. You
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Speaker 7: say you have data, We would love to see it
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Speaker 7: the American people see this data.
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Speaker 9: Well, here's the rhetic again, right, you just disappeared. That
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Speaker 9: was a ridiculous thing to say, because ICE is doing
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Speaker 9: the same thing we've done for decades. But because of
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Speaker 9: the last four years, ICE wasn't allowed to enforce the law.
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Speaker 9: But we're doing the same thing right now that we've
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Speaker 9: done when I started back in nineteen eighty four. ICE
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Speaker 9: agents are enforcing the laws and acted by Congress now.
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Speaker 3: To see it and disgracing itself again by accusing Donald
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Speaker 3: Trump of seizing on the murder of a young Ukrainian
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Speaker 3: woman are murdered they had refused to cover until now.
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Speaker 5: Ukrainian refugees murder caught on camera.
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Speaker 2: It is absolutely horrific.
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Speaker 10: Trump is now seizing on this to push his nationwide
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Speaker 10: crap down.
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Speaker 2: And it gets worse.
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Speaker 3: Have her listen to what's in in anchor, Abby Philip
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Speaker 3: had to say.
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Speaker 2: She seems to be more mad.
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Speaker 3: At Charlie Kirk for bringing attention to this sickening crime
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Speaker 3: than the barbaric thug.
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Speaker 2: Who killed an innocent woman.
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Speaker 11: When you are mentally ill, you have a hard time
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Speaker 11: knowing that you are mentally ill. But also, I mean,
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Speaker 11: people like Charlie Kirk fan they've been looking for opportunities
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Speaker 11: to make this some sort of like reciprocal George Floyd situation.
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Speaker 11: And that's the part that I think he's almost giving
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Speaker 11: away the game. And it's sad to see a lot
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Speaker 11: of people going along with it.
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Speaker 2: You know what, I'm almost speechless.
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Speaker 3: Comparing that poor innocent woman to George Floyd is bad enough,
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Speaker 3: but get ready to be truly disgusted.
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Speaker 2: Here is Van Jones.
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Speaker 6: We don't know why that man did what he did.
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Speaker 6: And for Charlie Kirk to say we know he did
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Speaker 6: it because she's white when there's no evidence of it
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Speaker 6: is just pure race mongering, hate mongering.
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Speaker 1: It's wrong.
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Speaker 6: Then he says that if something like that had happened
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Speaker 6: the other way, there'd be sweeping changes in polls on society.
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Speaker 6: Where is the George Floyd Policing Act.
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Speaker 1: It didn't pass well.
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Speaker 3: No evidence except the killer saying I've got the white girl,
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Speaker 3: and the fact that he was seated with five others
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Speaker 3: around him who he didn't attack, who all happened to
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Speaker 3: be black, but he targeted Irena pretty much as soon
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Speaker 3: as she sat down in.
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Speaker 2: Front of him.
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Speaker 3: All of this had White House Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt
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Speaker 3: fuming when she addressed the media earlier.
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Speaker 10: Today, Arena Zarutska was stabbed to death on the rail
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Speaker 10: system in Charlotte, North Carolina by a savage career criminal.
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Speaker 10: The most enraging and unacceptable part of the story is
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Speaker 10: that her death was entirely preventable. De Carlos Brown never
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Speaker 10: should have been on that train that night. In fact,
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Speaker 10: he should have been behind bars. Previously served five years
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Speaker 10: in prison for a robbery with a deadly weapon charge,
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Speaker 10: and he had also forfeited bonds three different times, twice
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Speaker 10: in twenty fourteen and once in twenty twenty three. Despite
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Speaker 10: all of this past documented criminal history, when Brown was
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Speaker 10: arrested yet again in January of this past year, a
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Speaker 10: Democrat judge, who will I will add was a supporter,
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Speaker 10: a strong supporter of former Vice President Kamala Harris, released
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Speaker 10: this insane criminal once again without requiring him to pay
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Speaker 10: any bail. He simply had to sign a written promise
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Speaker 10: to return for his court hearing. Think about how crazy
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Speaker 10: it is to ask a career criminal, someone who by
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Speaker 10: definition repeatedly breaks the law to just sign a written
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Speaker 10: promise and come back again another day. This is madness.
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Speaker 3: And Caroline Levitt had a message for those in the
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Speaker 3: media who had refused to cover this shocking murder.
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Speaker 10: And perhaps most shamefully of all, the majority of the
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Speaker 10: media many outlets in this room decided that her murder
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Speaker 10: was not worth reporting on originally because it does not
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Speaker 10: fit a preferred narrative. Many of the journalists in this
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Speaker 10: room spills plenty of ink trying to smear Daniel Penny
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Speaker 10: for defending a subway car from a deranged lunatic in
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Speaker 10: New York City, but none of those same reporters lift
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Speaker 10: a finger to write stories about an actual murderer. Here's
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Speaker 10: the truth that every American must know. Too many innocent
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Speaker 10: people across the country continue to pay the price of
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Speaker 10: the failed experiment known as cashless Bill.
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Speaker 3: Joining me now is political advisor and commentator CJ.
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Speaker 2: Pearson. CJ. The full United footage is now.
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Speaker 3: Being widely circulated of that shocking murder, and I'll ask
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Speaker 3: you about that in a second. It is one of
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Speaker 3: the most chilling things I've ever seen, not just the
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Speaker 3: brutal attack, but what happened afterwards. But firstly, tell me
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Speaker 3: about the reaction of the media since they've been called
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Speaker 3: out for the manner they have covered this story and
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Speaker 3: in many cases the manner in which they have refused
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Speaker 3: to cover this shocking story.
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Speaker 12: Well, first of all words, thank you again for having me, Rita,
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Speaker 12: and I got a level with you. You know, that
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Speaker 12: video is not just sickening, but it's disgusting for many
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Speaker 12: of the reasons that Caroline said, it was preventable, but
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Speaker 12: of course because of the disasterrous progressive policies of you know,
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Speaker 12: far left politicians like what we are seeing in Charlotte,
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Speaker 12: someone like that was allowed to walk free to commit
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Speaker 12: the act of violence that we saw in that video.
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Speaker 12: When I talk about the media's reaction to this, it's
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Speaker 12: even more disgusting. Right if this was a black man
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Speaker 12: who was you know, killed by a white man, this
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Speaker 12: would be wall to wall coverage, unending, and that is
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Speaker 12: exactly what we would see coming from folks like Al Sharpton,
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Speaker 12: who would be marching this reach right now, probably calling
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Speaker 12: for America to.
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Speaker 1: Be burned down. But because this is a white woman, but.
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Speaker 12: Because this is a different situation of course, as Caroline said,
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Speaker 12: doesn't fit their preferred narrative.
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Speaker 1: They want to ignore it.
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Speaker 12: They want to accuse Conservatives of overreacting and pouncing on
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Speaker 12: this situation. No one's pouncing on anything. What we're demanding
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Speaker 12: is the return of Laura in this country. And I
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Speaker 12: think it's a radical position to hold to believe in that.
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Speaker 3: Well, the full unedited version, and we're not going to
21:16
Speaker 3: play you the moment of the attack is just too shocking.
21:20
Speaker 3: But a warning nevertheless, because some viewers may find this distressing,
21:25
Speaker 3: and it is distressing the lead up to the attack
21:27
Speaker 3: and what happened afterwards, that's disturbing enough.
21:32
Speaker 2: After Irena was stad.
21:33
Speaker 3: There were five others sitting nearby who didn't go to
21:38
Speaker 3: her assistancy. J the good Samaritans who eventually came to
21:42
Speaker 3: help her were further down the carriage, and they are
21:45
Speaker 3: to be applauded for trying to save her life. But
21:49
Speaker 3: it was really quite chilling to watch people who failed
21:54
Speaker 3: to check on her after she's suffered those horrific injuries.
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Speaker 1: You know, it was a disgusting display of cowardice.
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Speaker 12: You need to be quite honest with you and I
22:03
Speaker 12: and I'm glad that there were people that eventually rose
22:05
Speaker 12: to the occasion to render her aid. There was one
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Speaker 12: man who actually took his shirt off and attempted to
22:10
Speaker 12: apply a turnity to stop the was going on, and
22:13
Speaker 12: God bless him for it. But again, you know, what
22:16
Speaker 12: was discussing, of course, was his actions, but also the
22:19
Speaker 12: fact that no one's frung to help. I think it
22:21
Speaker 12: goes to show that only, you know, do we have
22:24
Speaker 12: a problem when it comes to actually courage in this country.
22:27
Speaker 12: But also too, they were probably afraid as well, you know,
22:31
Speaker 12: which goes to show this man had no business being
22:33
Speaker 12: on our no business being out in the community. And
22:35
Speaker 12: the judge that let him out, we should know his
22:38
Speaker 12: name as well.
22:41
Speaker 3: Now, SiGe, the race issue here, you've already touched on it.
22:45
Speaker 3: It's undeniable when you look at the media's reluctance to
22:48
Speaker 3: properly cover this story. And also undeniable is the fact
22:53
Speaker 3: that the other five passengers sitting near.
22:55
Speaker 2: The killer were black.
22:57
Speaker 3: They weren't attacked, but as soon as Irena sat down,
23:00
Speaker 3: she became a target.
23:02
Speaker 2: The statistical data.
23:04
Speaker 3: About black on white crime is now being talked about widely,
23:08
Speaker 3: perhaps for the first time in a long time. Let's
23:11
Speaker 3: hear now from will Caine on Fox News.
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Speaker 13: I want to show you the actual truth when it
23:17
Speaker 13: comes to crime. The story is about race. Race. Take
23:23
Speaker 13: a look at the black on white crimes three hundred
23:27
Speaker 13: and eighty five thousand and twenty twenty three, the white
23:31
Speaker 13: on black crimes just under one hundred and eighteen thousand.
23:35
Speaker 13: You see the comparative numerical difference. But now here's what
23:39
Speaker 13: the media actually does. They did what our camera operator
23:41
Speaker 13: just began to do a moment ago. I'm going to
23:43
Speaker 13: step out of the way. I'm going to show you
23:45
Speaker 13: literally what the media does with the camera. They zoom
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Speaker 13: in on this number, this number devoid of context.
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Speaker 1: Ce J.
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Speaker 3: The data shows a white person is around thirty times
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Speaker 3: more likely to be victimized by a black person then
24:03
Speaker 3: the other way around. How much discussion is there about
24:06
Speaker 3: that issue at the moment in America, or the fact
24:09
Speaker 3: that you do have black men of a certain age
24:12
Speaker 3: so heavily overrepresented in the violent crime statistics.
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Speaker 12: There's very little discussion about this issue in America because
24:21
Speaker 12: the life seeks us shut down discussion in America. Right.
24:24
Speaker 1: You know, here's the deal.
24:25
Speaker 12: You know they want to say, let's not make this
24:27
Speaker 12: about race, let's not bring color into it. In that video,
24:30
Speaker 12: what you see is that man, that perpetrator, that thug,
24:34
Speaker 12: that animal.
24:35
Speaker 1: He says, I got that white girl.
24:38
Speaker 12: He says repeatedly, rita, I got that white girl.
24:44
Speaker 1: And so it's not us making it about race.
24:46
Speaker 12: It's not Fox News making it about racist's not any
24:48
Speaker 12: of us weighing in on this terrible tragedy making it
24:52
Speaker 12: about race. He committed this act because he was motivated
24:56
Speaker 12: by race. And so if you want to call anyone
24:58
Speaker 12: out for racism or so called racial supremacy, call out
25:02
Speaker 12: the thug who did this.
25:05
Speaker 1: Yeah.
25:06
Speaker 3: Absolutely, And again, as you said, if the races were reversed,
25:10
Speaker 3: if you had here a black victim, a white perpetrator,
25:14
Speaker 3: and a white perpetrator referring to the race of the victim,
25:18
Speaker 3: you're telling me people are going to be talking about
25:20
Speaker 3: it and they're not going to be noting the racial element. Now, Democrats,
25:25
Speaker 3: including Roy Cooper, are seeking to highlight mental health issues,
25:30
Speaker 3: the lack of policing. But this particular perpetrator had plenty
25:35
Speaker 3: of contact with police, didn't you, CJ.
25:39
Speaker 1: He exactly did.
25:40
Speaker 12: And let's also talk about the fact that it's the
25:42
Speaker 12: Democrats who've called for the defunding of the police. It's
25:44
Speaker 12: the Democrats who've called for less policing in our communities.
25:47
Speaker 12: It's the Democrats right now who are fighting against Presidents
25:49
Speaker 12: Frump to secure America's greatest.
25:52
Speaker 1: And once beautiful cities.
25:53
Speaker 12: And so you know, it's ironic to hear this from them,
25:56
Speaker 12: but honestly, it's out of survival that they're now starting
25:59
Speaker 12: to see this, right. They realize that the American public
26:02
Speaker 12: are not with them. The American public want to live
26:04
Speaker 12: in safe and secure communities. They don't want to live
26:07
Speaker 12: in fear on their public transportation as they walk down
26:10
Speaker 12: the sidewalk. And so, yeah, it's actually not surprising to
26:13
Speaker 12: me to hear Roy Cooper change his tune.
26:15
Speaker 1: But it's a day short and.
26:17
Speaker 12: A dollar elate, And I got to tell you, I
26:19
Speaker 12: think the American people are going to hold him accountable
26:21
Speaker 12: for it. And this is a man who, by the way,
26:22
Speaker 12: is running for US Senate right now in the state
26:24
Speaker 12: of North Carolina. And I got to tell you this
26:26
Speaker 12: is going to hang around his neck like an Orbitroce.
26:30
Speaker 3: Now, So, Jay, what is happening with the job data
26:33
Speaker 3: in the US. I saw the Bureau of Labor Statistics
26:36
Speaker 3: revised down the job numbers by some nine hundred thousand
26:41
Speaker 3: for twenty twenty four twenty twenty five. How many jobs
26:45
Speaker 3: created under the Biden administration have now been revised away
26:51
Speaker 3: they never really.
26:52
Speaker 2: Existed, Dude.
26:54
Speaker 1: It's looking to look upwards of a million.
26:56
Speaker 12: And you know, similar to the way in which they've
26:57
Speaker 12: cooked the books for the MPD in the City of DC,
27:00
Speaker 12: where they're reporting less valid crime that's actually than occurring,
27:03
Speaker 12: we're actually seeing the same thing with these BLS statistics,
27:06
Speaker 12: which is absolutely unfortunate, which actually underscores the importance of
27:09
Speaker 12: performing or confirming.
27:11
Speaker 1: You know, an incredible guy like EJ.
27:13
Speaker 12: And Anthony, who is a Heritage Foundation scholar, to replace
27:17
Speaker 12: the former buying appoint to who was in the position before.
27:20
Speaker 12: It's actually a shame to see, but it's just not
27:23
Speaker 12: surprising at this point. You know, everything that Biden administration
27:26
Speaker 12: did seems to have been in an attempt to cover
27:29
Speaker 12: just how much of a failure their entire political agenda was.
27:35
Speaker 3: To Florida now and the federal trial of Ryan Ruth,
27:39
Speaker 3: who faces charges for attempting to assassinate President Donald Trump.
27:43
Speaker 3: This has occurred back at his West Palm Beach golf
27:48
Speaker 3: club in September twenty twenty four, not long after the
27:51
Speaker 3: first assassination attempt in Pennsylvania.
27:55
Speaker 2: CJ the judge in.
27:56
Speaker 3: This case, has exclusive potential jurors any self declared biases.
28:02
Speaker 3: One woman who said I am Mega was eliminated as
28:05
Speaker 3: a potential duror. But that doesn't make me wonder how
28:09
Speaker 3: many others are quiet about their affiliations, whatever they may be,
28:13
Speaker 3: And what more do we know about this alleged assassin,
28:18
Speaker 3: Ryan Ruth. It seems like we've learned very little since
28:21
Speaker 3: September twenty twenty four.
28:24
Speaker 12: Yeah, I'm definitely curious about the political affiliations of those
28:27
Speaker 12: jurors as well, but also too to your point, who
28:30
Speaker 12: exactly is right and Ruth? And why was he motivated
28:33
Speaker 12: to do what he did? We haven't heard much about that.
28:36
Speaker 1: You know.
28:36
Speaker 12: Hopefully, you know, Cash Hotel and good folks of the
28:38
Speaker 12: FBI are taking a hard look at that and we
28:40
Speaker 12: will learn more. But I think that the American people
28:43
Speaker 12: are desperate to actually, you know, get a lot more
28:46
Speaker 12: inside of his motivations as to why he did what
28:48
Speaker 12: he did and to ensure that he gets the fair
28:51
Speaker 12: punishment that he deserves here in this case.
28:56
Speaker 2: His background.
28:58
Speaker 3: His recent history is pretty interesting and perplexing. Really where
29:05
Speaker 3: he got the funds from to do some of the
29:07
Speaker 3: things he was doing when he didn't seem to have
29:09
Speaker 3: any sort of meaningful employment for a period of time.
29:14
Speaker 3: Have you found out anything more about that or we're
29:17
Speaker 3: hopefully going to get some understanding during the trial.
29:21
Speaker 1: Hopefully we'll get it from the trial. I think that's
29:23
Speaker 1: the thing.
29:23
Speaker 12: I think people are scratching their heads as to exactly
29:26
Speaker 12: how we found the means, how we have the resources
29:28
Speaker 12: to do this, but also to what drove him.
29:30
Speaker 1: To do it. You know, he's a very erratic and
29:32
Speaker 1: irate person.
29:34
Speaker 12: You know, some are saying mental illness, but I think
29:36
Speaker 12: that there is a deep desire to learn more about
29:39
Speaker 12: him and what his motivations were and what his motive was,
29:41
Speaker 12: and so hopefully we will get those answers. But I
29:44
Speaker 12: think unfortunately now details are quite scant.
29:49
Speaker 3: Well, we know next to nothing about the Butler attempted
29:53
Speaker 3: assassin who was killed after his assassination attempt against Donald
29:59
Speaker 3: tr And it's incredible how little we know about that
30:02
Speaker 3: particular individual. Now, good news for Donald Trump and Millennia.
30:07
Speaker 3: Baron is moving back into the White House and CJ.
30:11
Speaker 3: Barron was invaluable for the Trump camp in helping formulate
30:16
Speaker 3: the strategy to reach young men.
30:18
Speaker 2: He really, I think.
30:19
Speaker 3: Served a very important role throughout the election campaign.
30:23
Speaker 2: He encouraged President Trump.
30:25
Speaker 3: To go on podcasts of popular personalities some of the
30:29
Speaker 3: President had never heard of before Baron's intervention. And it's
30:33
Speaker 3: worth noting this horrible murder we spoke about in North
30:36
Speaker 3: Carolina would have been on the President's radar much earlier
30:41
Speaker 3: if barn was around, because the President learnt about it
30:46
Speaker 3: twenty four to forty eight hours after it really went
30:49
Speaker 3: viral on x and other social media platforms.
30:54
Speaker 12: You know, It's yeah, we love having Baron here in DC,
30:58
Speaker 12: and we love to see that he's going to be
31:00
Speaker 12: the White House. And I'll tell you, this is a
31:02
Speaker 12: guy who has his figure on the pulse of everything
31:04
Speaker 12: that's going on, and so I think he's going to
31:06
Speaker 12: be an invaluable advisor to his father as he navigates,
31:09
Speaker 12: of course, the upcoming years of his presidency. And as
31:12
Speaker 12: you point out, he was an integral peace eye to
31:14
Speaker 12: his return to the White House, and so I will
31:17
Speaker 12: continue to serve that incredible role. But you know, again,
31:20
Speaker 12: I think what the President is really leaning on right now,
31:23
Speaker 12: is doing all that he can to you get information
31:26
Speaker 12: from wherever he can, but also to act on it effectively.
31:30
Speaker 12: And already I think he's taking action to ensure that
31:32
Speaker 12: what happened in Charlotte never happens again. And God bless
31:35
Speaker 12: him for it, because there is no reason that should
31:38
Speaker 12: happen in a civil and polite society at all anywhere
31:41
Speaker 12: in this country.
31:44
Speaker 3: Well, let's just hope the law and order crackdown that
31:47
Speaker 3: we're hopefully going to see in America's big cities really
31:50
Speaker 3: see some meaningful long term change, because they have just
31:54
Speaker 3: deteriorated so much. And even as a tourist who goes
31:58
Speaker 3: to the US very regularly, you can see that decay
32:01
Speaker 3: each time you visit. Those big cities seem to be
32:04
Speaker 3: a little worse now, CJ. We covered the baseball Karen's.
32:08
Speaker 2: Story earlier in the week, the woman.
32:11
Speaker 3: Who became among the most despised on the internet for
32:14
Speaker 3: about twenty four hours after brating a father and son
32:19
Speaker 3: for taking a home run baseball she somehow thought belonged
32:22
Speaker 3: to her. She did get the baseball given to her well,
32:26
Speaker 3: the father in that viral footage, Drew felt Well wants
32:30
Speaker 3: people to leave her alone and not try to.
32:33
Speaker 2: Get her fired. He said, CJ.
32:36
Speaker 3: The internet has already messed her up pretty good.
32:40
Speaker 2: He's not wrong there.
32:43
Speaker 12: No, he's not wrong. But I will tell you, really,
32:45
Speaker 12: he is a better man than me, because I guarantee
32:47
Speaker 12: you I would have kept the ball and I would
32:50
Speaker 12: have said keep going.
32:51
Speaker 1: So he you know, I don't know. Maybe he is
32:54
Speaker 1: a better man than me. I'll leave it at that.
32:58
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, this is obviously a very charitable person. But
33:01
Speaker 3: I'm going to get your opinion on this because then
33:04
Speaker 3: we did get a bit of blowback earlier in the
33:07
Speaker 3: Weeke when discussing this, because I thought his moved to
33:11
Speaker 3: give the ball to her, to give into the bullying
33:14
Speaker 3: in front of his son, was a poor move.
33:17
Speaker 2: He should have stood his ground.
33:19
Speaker 3: She had absolutely no right to demand that ball, and
33:23
Speaker 3: I think just because it happened in front of his son,
33:25
Speaker 3: it left a bad taste in my mouth. People said
33:27
Speaker 3: that was a bit harsh. What's your take on this?
33:32
Speaker 3: Do you think he did the right thing in the
33:35
Speaker 3: moment in giving that ball back?
33:37
Speaker 12: Well, Riad, I guess we're going to have to hate
33:39
Speaker 12: both you and me because I.
33:43
Speaker 1: Think you should have kept that ball.
33:44
Speaker 12: I think he should have. I don't understand why he
33:48
Speaker 12: gave it back, you know. I think I saw an
33:49
Speaker 12: argument online where it was basically that, you know, it
33:52
Speaker 12: just goes to show sometimes you can't give people, you know,
33:55
Speaker 12: the attention of the time of day. I think that
33:58
Speaker 12: you also have to show your son when to say
33:59
Speaker 12: it on business and not for a lent in the
34:01
Speaker 12: face of someone who is just being unreasonable and absolutely
34:04
Speaker 12: crazy and seene and that is what I saw in
34:07
Speaker 12: that video, and so I wish you would have kept
34:09
Speaker 12: that ball, you know, and I think as.
34:11
Speaker 1: Somewhat of appreciated.
34:12
Speaker 12: But you know, of course, everyone has their own parenting
34:14
Speaker 12: style and I'll leave that to him.
34:18
Speaker 2: Yep, sometimes you've got to stand on business. CJ. Pearson,
34:22
Speaker 2: thank you so much for your time tonight.
34:24
Speaker 1: Thanks so much.
34:25
Speaker 2: Still to come, we.
34:26
Speaker 3: Look at Wikipedia's corruption of information. Investigative journalists Ashley Rinsberg
34:32
Speaker 3: has the details. Welcome back now, My next guest has
34:46
Speaker 3: highlighted the steady decline of Wikipedia as a trusted news
34:50
Speaker 3: source for the general public.
34:51
Speaker 2: Small cells of.
34:53
Speaker 3: Bad faith editors have hijacked entire topic areas and are
34:57
Speaker 3: using Wikipedia to put biased information into platforms like Google, Chat, JPT, Gemini, Alexa,
35:04
Speaker 3: and Siri. Joining me now is editor and Chief investigative
35:08
Speaker 3: Officer for Neutral POV Ashley Rinsberg.
35:11
Speaker 2: Ashley, you say Wikipedia's.
35:14
Speaker 3: Corruption of information has reached crisis levels.
35:18
Speaker 2: Explain just how bad this is.
35:22
Speaker 14: Yeah, that's exactly the case, Rita. What we're seeing is
35:25
Speaker 14: that bad faith actors, and that can include anyone from
35:28
Speaker 14: state propagandists to foreign terror organizations to hit business interests,
35:32
Speaker 14: have learned that Wikipedia can be hijacked. They can take
35:36
Speaker 14: clusters of two or three or four editors who can
35:39
Speaker 14: capture an article or even an entire topic area on
35:43
Speaker 14: political area like American politics, Australian politics, or pharmaceuticals, and
35:49
Speaker 14: they can radically alter it to suit their own agenda.
35:53
Speaker 14: That's a problem because, as you mentioned, this is the
35:57
Speaker 14: material that feeds AI, It feeds Chat, GPT, Gemini, Siri, Alexa,
36:02
Speaker 14: and of course Google. So the information we're getting downstream
36:05
Speaker 14: has been perverted and corrupted by these bad faith actors.
36:12
Speaker 3: Now, these ideological players, these ideological editors. How many are
36:18
Speaker 3: we talking about, how many actually have control over Wikipedia?
36:22
Speaker 3: And where they're coming from. You've mentioned some can be
36:25
Speaker 3: from the corporate world, some maybe from activist groups, even
36:30
Speaker 3: terror groups. But do we have an idea of the
36:32
Speaker 3: countries they're coming from and just how many there are.
36:37
Speaker 14: It's extremely hard to know who they are and what
36:41
Speaker 14: they're really about. And that's part of the problem. Because
36:43
Speaker 14: they're anonymous. They don't even need to register their username
36:47
Speaker 14: on Wikipedia. They can just use their IP address, so
36:50
Speaker 14: it doesn't take very much for someone to conceal their
36:53
Speaker 14: agenda on Wikipedia. It's sort of designed for that purpose.
36:57
Speaker 14: In one case, we know that the gang of four
37:00
Speaker 14: editors who are sort of pro Palestine, anti Israel in
37:03
Speaker 14: some cases pro Hamas are three of them are at
37:06
Speaker 14: least from at least three of them are from Australia,
37:09
Speaker 14: others from around the world, and they have radically altered
37:12
Speaker 14: the entire landscape on Wikipedia on the Israel Palestine conflict.
37:19
Speaker 3: Now, tell me about the relationship between Wikipedia and these
37:24
Speaker 3: AI platforms.
37:26
Speaker 2: What feeds?
37:27
Speaker 3: What is Wikipedia relying on AI or vice versa.
37:34
Speaker 14: AI is relying on Wikipedia to an alarming degree, and
37:37
Speaker 14: that's because the Wikipedia data is very structured, it's very
37:41
Speaker 14: sort of regulated in a technical sense, and best of all,
37:44
Speaker 14: it's free, so these sites can get all this free
37:47
Speaker 14: data and they can populate their AI, they train on it,
37:50
Speaker 14: and that's basically every frontier AI model trains heavily on Wikipedia.
37:55
Speaker 14: And they also pull Wikipedia data for reference purposes. So
37:59
Speaker 14: when you ask a question on chat gipt about some topic,
38:03
Speaker 14: in many, many cases, and this is to a disproportionate extent,
38:07
Speaker 14: they're directly pulling that information from Wikipedia. And that could
38:10
Speaker 14: be from an article or topic area that has been hijacked,
38:13
Speaker 14: hijacked or corrupted by one of these edit gangs.
38:19
Speaker 3: Now, Ashley, we've been speaking all week about the horrific
38:22
Speaker 3: stabbing of a Ukrainian refugee in North Carolina and the
38:25
Speaker 3: media's failure to properly cover that story. One of your
38:29
Speaker 3: tweets about this when viral had millions of views and
38:33
Speaker 3: you showed a Wikipedia article about the murder and how
38:37
Speaker 3: was nominated for deletion. There was a warning there saying
38:41
Speaker 3: it may not meet Wikipedia's general notability guidelines. Explain that
38:48
Speaker 3: to me, how does that work?
38:50
Speaker 14: Wikipedia has a policy that things should be notable so
38:54
Speaker 14: that they can meet the threshold of being inside of
38:57
Speaker 14: an encyclopedia, not just a news story. In this case,
39:00
Speaker 14: this was an important event. It had already been in
39:03
Speaker 14: the news for many weeks, and still Wikipedia editors wanted
39:07
Speaker 14: to keep it off of the site because they didn't
39:09
Speaker 14: like the politics of it, they didn't like the optics
39:12
Speaker 14: of it, it didn't agree with their own ideology. So
39:14
Speaker 14: they took a very simple step. And again, this is
39:16
Speaker 14: only two, three or four experienced veteran editors who can
39:20
Speaker 14: pull this kind of thing off very easily. It's only
39:23
Speaker 14: because people started to notice that this effort was defeated.
39:27
Speaker 14: And yet still these same editors fought very hard and
39:31
Speaker 14: successfully to keep the name of the suspect off of
39:35
Speaker 14: that article. And there is currently no mention of the
39:38
Speaker 14: suspect's name on the article, as if for his own privacy.
39:43
Speaker 3: Even now, there's no even when we've had that the
39:46
Speaker 3: President speak about this issue, it's become such.
39:49
Speaker 2: A media scandal.
39:50
Speaker 3: The media's rolling really not probably covering this story, has
39:54
Speaker 3: become part of this story. And still Wikipedia doesn't have
39:58
Speaker 3: a key bit of information, which is who And we
40:01
Speaker 3: can't even call him a suspect because it's literally on
40:04
Speaker 3: video murdering this girl. There's no alleged here, Yes.
40:09
Speaker 14: That's right, And still today no mention where we see
40:12
Speaker 14: in a counter example, when the Kenosha shootings, the BLM
40:16
Speaker 14: shootings and Kyle Rittenhouse was accused of murder. He was
40:21
Speaker 14: a miner at the time, and Wikipedia had an article
40:23
Speaker 14: about those shootings where they mentioned written House fifty times
40:27
Speaker 14: in a single article. There was no scruples about including
40:30
Speaker 14: his name, and it was some of the same editors
40:33
Speaker 14: who were fighting to keep this suspect's name in this
40:35
Speaker 14: case off the article who made no mention of the
40:38
Speaker 14: fact that Kyle Rittenhouse was being accused in this article
40:42
Speaker 14: of a crime and his name was being exposed despite
40:45
Speaker 14: him being a miner at the time.
40:49
Speaker 3: Now you saying Wikipedia is worse because I've never trusted Wikipedia.
40:55
Speaker 3: I've always seen it with the leftist lant it has
40:59
Speaker 3: and in some cases that leftist slant is more extreme,
41:01
Speaker 3: in other cases it's a little bit more subtle, but
41:04
Speaker 3: it's never been trustworthy in my eyes. Are you saying
41:07
Speaker 3: it's getting worse or it's just something that we should
41:10
Speaker 3: be aware of and not trust.
41:13
Speaker 14: It's getting worse, and the reason is because more and
41:16
Speaker 14: more people, more of these groups are waking up to
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Speaker 14: the fact of its extreme influence online and in our lives.
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Speaker 14: On AI, on Google, everything we discussed, and they're understanding
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Speaker 14: how easy it is to break in to hijack these articles.
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Speaker 14: So it's become, yes, exactly, to manipulate it and become
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Speaker 14: this backdoor of vulnerability into the entire information ecosystem. The
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Speaker 14: foundation in charge of Wikipedia has done very little, in
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Speaker 14: some cases nothing about this, because they too have been captured.
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Speaker 14: This is something that happened in twenty seventeen. They're captured
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Speaker 14: where actually of Hillary Clinton.
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Speaker 2: We will have to we will have to get you
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Speaker 2: back home.
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Speaker 3: We've run out of time, but this is just such
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Speaker 3: an important issue. Ashley Rinsberg, thank you so much for
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Speaker 3: your time tonight, and that it from me.
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Speaker 2: Up next, It's Newsnight.
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Speaker 3: I'll see you tomorrow at eleven pm.