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Love is in the Clare · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with I R Radio Ashley. When we started this season out,
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  Speaker 1: we were just talking about how we made it through quarantine.
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  Speaker 1: We we hung in there. Uh, we did a great
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  Speaker 1: job at it. I will give us a compliment, say,
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  Speaker 1: I think we did a great job getting through quarantine.
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  Speaker 1: We were so pumped for a season of The Bachelorette
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  Speaker 1: and to our in in a lot of ways. Surprise,
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  Speaker 1: we now have two seasons of the Bachelorette to break down. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so why is Bachelor Nation complaining about this? I'm a
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  Speaker 1: little bit mind boggled by people giving Claire so much flak.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you guys had an issue last season because
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  Speaker 1: Peter was not decisive enough, and now Claire's just too
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  Speaker 1: decisive and you're annoyed that she ended her part of
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  Speaker 1: the season early. Now you get two bachelorettes. What's sort
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  Speaker 1: of complain about two amazing women as leads. Well, in fact,
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  Speaker 1: last night I tweeted, hey, be nice to Claire. Uh Um,
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  Speaker 1: I can get that, Like people are upset with how
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  Speaker 1: she handled it. I can actually understand what people are, like, Hey,
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  Speaker 1: why please clarify for me? I just understand that people
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  Speaker 1: might not love the way she handled things that they
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  Speaker 1: wanted her to me be my more for uh an
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  Speaker 1: ode to the time we're in bipartisan, more open, uh less.
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  Speaker 1: Initially into Dale because it felt like the first three
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  Speaker 1: weeks were Clarion Dale, Clariondale. We didn't get that know
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  Speaker 1: any of these guys. I I can get where people
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  Speaker 1: are like, hey, I don't I don't enjoy watching Claire
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  Speaker 1: for this. I I personally did, but I can understand
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  Speaker 1: that now. What I can't understand then is why people
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  Speaker 1: are being mean to Claire, Like you can dislike how
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  Speaker 1: she handled it, but you cannot criticize the fact that
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  Speaker 1: she pursued love. She went out of her way to
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  Speaker 1: make this love happen as soon as possible. She was
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  Speaker 1: never fake. And when I tweeted this last night, I
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  Speaker 1: got a reaction from somebody saying, no, we wanted a
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  Speaker 1: full season. We only got three episodes. To my responses,
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  Speaker 1: not a good argument. You're gonna get a whole season,
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  Speaker 1: Like you're gonna get a full season now. You just
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  Speaker 1: get two bachelorettes, both incredible women, and we get to
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  Speaker 1: see Tasia on our screens, which we've been waiting for
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  Speaker 1: for years. Are people annoy that they're not getting more
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  Speaker 1: Claire Because I would have liked to see Clarendale a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more. I can see complaining about that. But
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  Speaker 1: to complain that you're not getting a full season, I
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  Speaker 1: feel like a silly because Tassia's season is going. Tasia's
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  Speaker 1: part of the season is going to feel like a
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  Speaker 1: full season. You guys are gonna get like eight episodes
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  Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, we're actually gonna know the guy's names
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  Speaker 1: because I don't know any of these dudes names right now. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so that's great. We're gonna talk to Chris Harrison later
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  Speaker 1: and break down the episode further. Uh, talk a lot
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  Speaker 1: about Clarendale's connection, but right now, I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: about Tasha and the guys that you see Tasha being
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  Speaker 1: compatible with, because I think it's super interesting that we
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  Speaker 1: the audience now know the guys better than the lead
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  Speaker 1: going into it. So who do you who do you
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  Speaker 1: see that a match with? I don't know. I have
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  Speaker 1: some interesting theories, actually, I really do, And I am
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  Speaker 1: excited for Tasha. I'm excited that we get to watch her.
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  Speaker 1: I think she's great. What are your interesting theories? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'll definitely tell you here. But you know, my thought
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  Speaker 1: on this whole thing is, if you're upset with Claire,
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  Speaker 1: like you should be, you should be celebrating the fact that,
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  Speaker 1: like now we have a new back to Arete and
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  Speaker 1: so like your should be happy all the way around
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  Speaker 1: right now, and especially with Tasha being uh the lead.
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  Speaker 1: She is an incredible person and I think Chris Harrison
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  Speaker 1: said the best in fact, Um, you know, obviously I
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  Speaker 1: get to talk to Chris away from all of this,
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  Speaker 1: and he has nothing but incredible things to say about Tasha. Um,
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  Speaker 1: just as a human and we've been around her. We
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  Speaker 1: love her. She's been great to us. She traveled to
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  Speaker 1: i Heeart Fest with us in Las Vegas. Um, we
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  Speaker 1: just but yeah, she's just great. So here's my theory,
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  Speaker 1: Ashley h I think Ben Bennett is the right thinking
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  Speaker 1: star of this season. I really think this whole like
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  Speaker 1: whispering rumor that you know, I think Nick File tweeted
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  Speaker 1: it first, so I had to give him credit. But
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  Speaker 1: like you hear it more and more like Bennett is
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  Speaker 1: going to rise from the ashes and be incredibly likable.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly think Tasia and Bennett might run off in
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  Speaker 1: this thing together. Okay, So yeah, I think that because
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  Speaker 1: we've seen a bit of we've been teased Bennett so far,
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  Speaker 1: that means that he'll be more of a character along
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  Speaker 1: the way. He has shown glimmers of being a real gentleman.
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  Speaker 1: He's really made all the right moves when it comes
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  Speaker 1: to his one on one time with Claire, even though
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  Speaker 1: she was distracted by Dale. And then, um, I think
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  Speaker 1: he's super self aware, Like he leans into the Harvard
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  Speaker 1: thing in such a hilarious way, like, you know, he's
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  Speaker 1: not taking himself too seriously, which is a quality of
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  Speaker 1: somebody that I love. Um, and then he looks like
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  Speaker 1: Clark Kent, you know, like he really pulls off the
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  Speaker 1: Superman thing and he really is just seems like an
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  Speaker 1: immortal among them. Here's here's another thought I have. Here's
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  Speaker 1: my other theory. I think it's gonna be really hard
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  Speaker 1: for these guys to be unlikable because we've seen them
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  Speaker 1: go through so much up to this point that I
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  Speaker 1: feel like, at least for me, and I want to
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  Speaker 1: hear what you think, I'm just rooting for them, like
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  Speaker 1: all of them at this point, to have a fair shot.
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  Speaker 1: So my question, see, you actually will we see a
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  Speaker 1: lot of drama during Tatia's run, or is this gonna
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  Speaker 1: be just like a love story here getting to know people? No,
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  Speaker 1: I think like all the drama really happened in the
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  Speaker 1: first four episodes between Dale and Claire and then Yoseph.
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  Speaker 1: I think Yoseph is going to be the only villain
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  Speaker 1: of the season. I don't think there's gonna be like
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  Speaker 1: a guy who rises to become the new villain. I
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  Speaker 1: think they're all pretty empathetic characters. Um. I think other
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  Speaker 1: people to watch out for would be um damar Ben.
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  Speaker 1: But Ben is his name, right? Yeah? I think it's
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  Speaker 1: been Yeah. I think it's funny that we're like questioning
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  Speaker 1: the guy's names because like I really don't know them
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  Speaker 1: and we're four weeks saying uh yeah. And when we
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  Speaker 1: watched the screeners, they don't have the name on the bottom,
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  Speaker 1: which is sometimes frustrating. So demarrow Ben. I really loved Riley.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Riley was the one that danced with Claire
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  Speaker 1: as if they were at prom. And then I think
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  Speaker 1: that Chason will also can make like top eight at least. Well,
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  Speaker 1: let's pause here, UM kind of wrap all this into
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  Speaker 1: um some type of linear movements. So now we have
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  Speaker 1: Tasias the Bachelor atte Ashley and I have just told
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  Speaker 1: you who we think is gonna rise and shine Ivan
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  Speaker 1: Ivan too. I think we just named all of the guys.
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  Speaker 1: Um in fact um. Now here's the big storylines that
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  Speaker 1: I thought we were going to get more from at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the episode. We didn't, um, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: glad we didn't. But there's uh, Blake and Jason, who
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  Speaker 1: really seem like they're the two that, for lack of
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  Speaker 1: a term, like wear their hearts on their sleeves. They
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  Speaker 1: really invested into this whole experience. They really wanted to
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  Speaker 1: see this work with Claire. They stuck around. Uh, we
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  Speaker 1: got hints of this story kind of coming to the surface.
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  Speaker 1: Wondering if they're going to show up or not. What
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  Speaker 1: happens with Blake and and Jason from this point forward,
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  Speaker 1: that's a great question. I feel like one of I
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  Speaker 1: think I feel like one of them is gonna leave.
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  Speaker 1: They're gonna give Tasia the night one shot. Um, They're
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  Speaker 1: going to see if there's any sort of instantaneous connection.
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  Speaker 1: But I don't think these two are gonna wait around
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  Speaker 1: for a connection that grows. And I don't really blame
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  Speaker 1: them because looking at it from a viewer's point, because
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  Speaker 1: it's been a few years since I've been in it,
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, ah, come on, you guys, be fine. Look
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  Speaker 1: at how beautiful Tasia is, and she's so wonderful and
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  Speaker 1: glow like she's just she's got such a bright personality,
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  Speaker 1: Like why would you have an issue with this? But
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  Speaker 1: then I think, and I put myself back in the house,
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  Speaker 1: and if some if I say, Crystals and I were
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  Speaker 1: just really hitting it off in the bachom acson to
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  Speaker 1: the Bachelor, if he was just plucked away, I can't
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  Speaker 1: really imagine being able to reset that fast. What about you? Well,
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  Speaker 1: it really brings up our eternal question that has lived
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  Speaker 1: on this podcast for three years now is how soon
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  Speaker 1: is too soon to move on? Um that really this
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  Speaker 1: really is going to highlight if they can move on
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  Speaker 1: within twenty four hours to totally find love again. Now.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're in love with Claire. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know to the extent of that relationship and what
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  Speaker 1: they invested into it, but they will have to ask
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  Speaker 1: themselves the question, Hey, I wasn't chosen Claire in as
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  Speaker 1: Sence broke up with me. That's yeah, Yeah, that's what
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  Speaker 1: they need to focus on. They're like, we're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: get back with Claire. There's no way to get back
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  Speaker 1: together with Claire. She's gone. So if she's gone, as
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  Speaker 1: one as well, just start the fresh page as fast
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  Speaker 1: as possible, but maybe easier than done, it might be.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting to see that play out. This
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  Speaker 1: is different than the Caitlin brit Britt situation because, um, now,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I think the show did a great job
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  Speaker 1: by prientation. I think this was an incredible um performance
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  Speaker 1: on the fact of the on behalf of the show
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  Speaker 1: just to make this happen in the way that did.
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  Speaker 1: And as we talked about, Chris Harrison is gonna talk
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  Speaker 1: a little bit more, a lot more about that and
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  Speaker 1: what that process actually looked like behind the scenes here.
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  Speaker 1: Um in just a little bit. But I still think
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  Speaker 1: there's something to come. We saw in the previews Ashley
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  Speaker 1: that everything is about the change, which is a very
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  Speaker 1: common Chris Harrison line. M hmm. I think the big
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  Speaker 1: change is there there's new guys coming in. I think
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  Speaker 1: we're back to twenty four guys starting this next episode.
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  Speaker 1: That would only be fair for her. I mean, what
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  Speaker 1: are they down to right now in that house? Like
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  Speaker 1: maybe not even sixteen That would be so unfair for
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  Speaker 1: her to be like, Okay, pick somebody from these sixteen guys.
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  Speaker 1: It's like walk into a bar on a regular Friday night,
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  Speaker 1: you'll meet you can meet sixteen guys. I highly doubt
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  Speaker 1: one of those sixteen two guys is going to meet
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  Speaker 1: your husband. Here is gonna be the interesting part to
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  Speaker 1: this whole thing. You kind of saw at the end
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  Speaker 1: of this episode, and I really enjoyed this part where
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  Speaker 1: the guys are sitting around in the circle and Jason
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  Speaker 1: walks in and they cheer for him. Now, at this point,
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  Speaker 1: you have to imagine that these guys have been locked
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  Speaker 1: together in a house for days, kind of waiting to
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  Speaker 1: see what happens, waiting for Claire to come back, waiting
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  Speaker 1: to see what the next steps are. So they have
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  Speaker 1: a bond, and you see it when Jason walks in
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  Speaker 1: and the guys are like, hey, welcome, Like we're so
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  Speaker 1: happy you're here. The interesting part of this whole show
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  Speaker 1: is they're really happy that Jason is there. That's great
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  Speaker 1: because they obviously like him, but they're rooting for a
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  Speaker 1: guy to show up to compete to find the woman
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  Speaker 1: of their dreams. Like that whole idea is weird to me, Like,
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  Speaker 1: that doesn't I would do this. I'd probably do the
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  Speaker 1: same thing because they're friends now, but if we watch
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  Speaker 1: on television, like it makes no sense for them to
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  Speaker 1: be happy to anybody else's day. That's so funny. Well,
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  Speaker 1: there's a huge difference between like a guy a friend
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  Speaker 1: coming back to the group after a group date or
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  Speaker 1: after a one on one. When you're in those teens,
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  Speaker 1: you know when when there's sixteen guys left. Now when
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  Speaker 1: somebody walks back in when there's eight people left, then
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  Speaker 1: you're like, I wish you didn't come home. I would
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  Speaker 1: have liked to hang out with you off the show.
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  Speaker 1: So will they be happy the other guys show up
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  Speaker 1: or like, is this going to be the same kind
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  Speaker 1: of vibe and it's just gonna be like two different
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  Speaker 1: groups now, Oh, fantastic question. I feel like they're not
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  Speaker 1: gonna like it initially. I'll tell you that they may
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  Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that it's like the right thing
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  Speaker 1: to do and they'll be okay with it. But like
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  Speaker 1: at first, when Harrison announces a limo coming forward, if
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  Speaker 1: this does this theory of yours does hold true. They're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna like that. They're not gonna like it at all.
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  Speaker 1: I mean they're friends at this point, like they've seen
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  Speaker 1: a lot of time together. Well, that's one interesting thing
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  Speaker 1: that could happen. The other is, you know, obviously, as
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  Speaker 1: we talked about who you know we think Tasia will pursue.
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  Speaker 1: We have no clue there might be a new guy
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  Speaker 1: that shows up that she likes even more than all
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  Speaker 1: these guys. Um, I'm excited to get to know other names.
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  Speaker 1: Ashley close off here before we bring Chris on, because
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  Speaker 1: I know we have a lot to talk to him about, uh,
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  Speaker 1: and I have a feeling he's gonna be pretty vulnerable
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  Speaker 1: and honest because he's uh, he's just hanging out right now.
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  Speaker 1: Can we just say, like, how much he's shown shown?
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  Speaker 1: Is that a word? He shined? No, it's shined like
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  Speaker 1: she shined in this episode. He was he was shown
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  Speaker 1: and he shined. He was so amazing, like he this
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  Speaker 1: is one of these episodes where he really conducted it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, step by step, and he's just so down
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  Speaker 1: to earth and I think people loved seeing this. Chris
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  Speaker 1: Harrison that isn't buttoned up at a rose ceremony. He's
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  Speaker 1: just like the friend that's coming in jeans and a
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  Speaker 1: little scruff to come and talk heart to heart. He Uh,
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  Speaker 1: it's funny. Last night on Twitter, he was trending many
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  Speaker 1: times last night. It's because he was showing shining. But
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  Speaker 1: one of the things reasons was because we saw Chris
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  Speaker 1: Harrison swear on TV, which is not shown often, and
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  Speaker 1: people loved it. They mind me, oh, because he's what
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  Speaker 1: did he say? I think he said this is BS
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  Speaker 1: like or something, so I can't I don't know. It
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  Speaker 1: was blur, but like he just said something. But like
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  Speaker 1: they had to bleep Chris Harrison, which is just a
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  Speaker 1: magical moment in bachelor history is when Chris Harrison gets bleeped.
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  Speaker 1: Love it, guys. If you only knew that Chris Harrison
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  Speaker 1: off screen and how less buttoned up he is, you
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  Speaker 1: love him even more. He's a great dude. Um. Well, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna bring him on here in just a second.
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  Speaker 1: We're have a lot of fun with Chris. Uh. Super
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  Speaker 1: excited to talk to him. Now. Final question for you, Ashley.
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  Speaker 1: I know our listeners are are probably anxious about this
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  Speaker 1: as well. What are you most looking forward to as
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  Speaker 1: this season progresses with Tasia as our bachelorette. I hope
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  Speaker 1: to just see Tasha okay to overcompensate for Claire's lack
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  Speaker 1: of connection with multiple men. I hope that we have
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  Speaker 1: And maybe I sound like a huge horrible friend saying this,
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  Speaker 1: but I hope that at the end of this Tasia
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  Speaker 1: has a lot of connections that needs she needs to
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  Speaker 1: weed through. And it's a difficult decision because she has
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  Speaker 1: feelings for so many guys and like maybe her top
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  Speaker 1: three is just it's heart wrenching. Is that horrible? But
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  Speaker 1: of course at the end of the day, I hope
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  Speaker 1: that what we get out of this season is to
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  Speaker 1: engagements that be incredible, And yeah, I'm with you, No,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think it's horrible. I think we I think
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  Speaker 1: the best of seasons are when there's at the end
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  Speaker 1: of a little bit of heart pool and heart pool
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  Speaker 1: in different directions, a little drama. You get to really
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  Speaker 1: relate with the leads and see their hearts in the line.
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  Speaker 1: And I think, uh, knowing Tasia and knowing kind of
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  Speaker 1: what she hopes for, I have a feeling that could
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  Speaker 1: happen as well well. Ashley. Before we bring Chris on,
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  Speaker 1: we do have something announced to all of you out there. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: we have a friends Giving virtual event. Please join Ashley
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  Speaker 1: and I and a few others that I'll mention here
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  Speaker 1: in just a second for an almost famous friends giving.
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  Speaker 1: It's time to celebrate with appearances from other Bachelor Nations stars,
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  Speaker 1: special guests, appearances by Crystals, Crystal Nielsen, Wells, Adams, Jared Haban,
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  Speaker 1: Ben Flank, and many more. We're gonna share some recipes.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna find out which is the Bachelor, which of
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  Speaker 1: our Bachelor friends are experts in the kitchen, and which
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  Speaker 1: one is our disaster. I mean, Crystals and Wells, we're
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  Speaker 1: both on Worse Cooks in America or like, what is
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  Speaker 1: that show on the Food Network cookt in America? Right? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think it is. I mean, like, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: you have to actually be a horrible cook to be
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  Speaker 1: in there, because I think Wells is actually very much
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  Speaker 1: a pro in the kitchen. He does a lot on
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  Speaker 1: his Instagram with cooking. But you guys join us. We're
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  Speaker 1: gonna be of course talking about Claire Tasia all the guys.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna be eating, drinking, laughing, possibly crying. They'll be prizes. Um.
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  Speaker 1: So if you want a little bit more Bachelor Nation
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  Speaker 1: the bourbon for this. I'm gonna pour a glass of bourbon.
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  Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a great time. We're just gonna celebrate.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, this is what this is like. Let's celebrate this.
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  Speaker 1: This isn't something to be buttoned up and put together. Um,
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  Speaker 1: we want to celebrate with all of you. So yes,
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  Speaker 1: live dot com for tickets. I'm going to bring the
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  Speaker 1: Bailey's out. I'm going through a Bailey's face. I feel
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  Speaker 1: like a Dad Ashley. I feel little Bailey's of the Rocks.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: It's like so seasonal and delicious. You're like my dad.
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: My dad never drinks and when it gets cold outside,
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: he he loves himself some peppermint schnops on. It's so ridiculous.
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: It's so sugary, so thick, it's like syrup and you're
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: drinking straight cream. Hey, um, Ashley, let's take a break.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna have the one and only,
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: the legend, the leader of this franchise, giving us all.
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: Oh my, I can't believe I'm gonna say this all
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: the t Chris Harrison will be here and just hey, Chris,
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: how are you doing? Hi? Ash sending right now that
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: we didn't just talk for five minutes beforehand, but now
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: we're going to dive into the episode, and it should
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: be the show before the show. This was such a
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: fantastic episode. I was falling asleep and I was like,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: you cannot fall asleep because I think it's one of
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: our best. And I'm not lying, and I'm not just
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: completely full of crappier when I say the last two episodes,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: episode three and this was episode four, are two of
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: the best episodes we've ever produced and created in the
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: history of this show. And I don't mean that like
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: a hyperbolic, dramatical way. I just mean the circumstances with
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: which it happened in the middle of a pandemic, the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: fact that it's airing at all as a miracle, but
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: the fact that we also created this and was able
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: to pull it off. There's not a team in the
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: world that could have done this and made it look
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: like it did in the business. And I'm so proud
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: of my crew and my family for doing it. And
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: when I watch it back, I have honestly such pride
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: in the two episodes especially. I completely agree with both
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: of these weeks. Since we get the screeners. I was
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: telling my friends and family, be like, wait to see
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: this episode. It's a really good one. I honestly don't.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: I don't always even watch the show back because I
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: know what happens. I was there and helped create it
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: um And then sometimes i'll watch it on TV or
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: I'll see a screener when I usually look at the
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: first edit and when it's really raw, just to make
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: sure it's head in the right direction. But I've watched
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: I watched episode three three times. I watched episode four twice,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: and that's pretty rare for me to go back. I
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: just enjoyed it so much, and then the nuance and
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the things we were pulling off to see how it
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: all came together. I'm really really proud of it. Let's
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: start off at the top of the episode. Last week,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Rob Mills said that you needed you. You decided when
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: she gave herself the rows at the group date that
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: collectively as a production team, you thought that something was
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: probably gonna be need need to be done. This was
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: like the turning point where you called Tasha. Can you
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: confirm this? No, I hate to disagree with Rob, but
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: he's completely wrong. Um. I mean, I love Rob, he's
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: he's my boy. But that's just not the case at all.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Um that that just wouldn't even remotely work. Um, there
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: was an issue earlier than that. Um, you know is
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Rob Wright and that maybe it came to a head,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: But that was even late till I think it had
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: already come to a head. I think that was just
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: something we you know, that was kind of maybe the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: straw that broke the camel's back. Maybe I don't know,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: but obviously the rock was already rolling downhill by that point.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: So no, that's that's not exactly accurate. As much as
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: I hate to disagree with Rob, can you let us
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: in on when you guys had Tasha come to start
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: quarantine NG At what point in the narrative you know
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: what I would I would love to say, I really
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: don't remember. It was when I tell you. It was
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: such a blur and we you guys know our schedule.
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: You know, we don't sleep. You know that it's a
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: normal life, and that's a normal season. This was anything
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: but normal. So we were trying to facilitate a show
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: and at the same time trying to figure out how
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: do we keep this show going? What do we do?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've never been faced with anything like this
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: on a you know, producers side, production side, and so
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: you know, again, there was never that aha moment, There
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: was never that light bulb like, oh my gosh, we're
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: you know, this is this has taking a turn. We
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: have to make a change. It really was this gradual
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: I say gradual. It happened quickly, but a gradual thing
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: where we you know, there were murmurs of like, hey,
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: this this might be going in a very interesting direction.
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: Hey we may have to do something about this. Hey
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: you know what, what are we going to do? What
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: are our options? And so there wasn't just a hey,
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: let's have a meeting and let's figure this out. It
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: was these things happen over time, a million conversations, spending
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: all night together, throwing everything against the wall. So there
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: really wasn't this light bulb moment of oh my god, Tasha.
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: You know, she gave herself a rose. We need Tasia.
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: It really was more of a gradual moment where we
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: had to stop and say, Okay, first of all, what
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: can we do to help Claire? How can we help
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: Claire make the decision to find the love of her life?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: And that was our honestly, that was our biggest priority.
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: Take care of Claire, take take care of Dale, but
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: also what do we do with these guys and preserve
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: that and to us For us to hit the pause
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: button like you saw in that fourth episode last night
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: and do what we did is so unprecedented, so weird,
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: and so hard. I can't begin to tell you how
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: difficult that was to try and keep the guys at
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: bay and say, hey, guys, just give us a second,
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: we're gonna go shoot another television show first for a bit.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: It was truly bizarre. I've never been through anything. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: was on a scooter going back and forth across the
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: property fifty times, talk to the guys, talk to Dale,
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: talk to Claire, just sweating my ass off in the
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: desert um. At one point it was funny. I actually
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: noticed when I sat down with Claire. I was out
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: of breath because I had just run across because I
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: heard she was kind of melting down again and I
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: wanted to talk to her. And I'm like sweating and
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: like profusely, like hyperventilating. It was a wild, wild ride
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: for all of us, but I think it was handled
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: very well, and at the end of the day, it
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: was all about Claire leading us in the direction, making
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: the choice, and us facilitating that. That's the only thing
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: we cared about the h I love that you just
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: said that, because I noticed when we're watching the episode
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: that moment with Claire you get a few of those,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: is one that felt unexpected because you are out of breath,
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: like you're sitting down and you can hear it, like
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a few times, I'm literally moving chairs into the there's
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: no set up for this now, Chris. I think one
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: of the things that we always talk about, and this
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: is a good moment for that, is people who who
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: watched the show oftentimes believe that that the producers have
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: some sinister plan. They're sitting in this room and they
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: have this all calculated in there. You know they there,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: this is gonna happen. No matter what. Can you give
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: us a little bit more of a background. You just
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: mentioned it to what's going on as the story is unfolding,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: everybody's trying to keep up with it, Like, what does
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: this look like for the producers who are trying to
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: keep up and still make a show? Well, I heard
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: to your point. Um, I I hear some crazy, outlandish
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: ideas and conspiracies, and and considering you know what we've
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: been through as a country, maybe these aren't the craziest.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: But I had heard. I saw somebody or somebody mentioned
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: that this whole thing was planned from the beginning, and
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: I thought that might be the dumbest sentence ever uttered
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: by any human being. Think about what what would have
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: had to have happened. That's crazier than the grassy Knoll
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: and the fake moon landing. I mean, think of what
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: would have had to have gone in place to make
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: that happen. We would have had to guarantee that Claire
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: was going to fall in love in a certain amount
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: of time and pull this off, by the way, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: do it in a pandemic good luck. But anyway, beyond
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: that being the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: you know you're right, we have learned to embrace, especially
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: over the last three or four years, to really embrace
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: and let this show be raw, and let this show
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: lead us into wherever it's going. And I sat down
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: a number of occasions, and you saw a lot of
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: it with Claire where she was really open about you know,
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: last episode, episode three where she says, you know, can
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: we move this along? I don't really want to spend
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: time with these guys, essentially, and you know, and clearly
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: her head was not there anymore, and clearly she was
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: not even remotely giving anybody else a chance, which is
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: not bad. Again, I'm not mad at Claire. No one
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: is mad at Claire, at least on the show side.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: The producers. We embraced it. And I sat down with
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: her and said, Claire, my only issue is this isn't
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: fair anymore. Let's just figure out what's going on between
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: you and Dale. Let's stop the show. I mean, if
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: you understand, you guys do. But I hope the people
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: listening understand what it takes to push pause on a
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: television production and not know where it's going, and just say,
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: you know what, Claire, We're going to give you a
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: shot with Dale and Dale, only it might be the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: worst decision in television history, but we're going to give
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: this a shot because that's what you're telling us to do.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: And then they end up together, They end up spending
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the night together, they tell each other they love each other,
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: and then they get engaged. I mean, that is the
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: ultimate dream. And so you know, I just want to
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: clear it up that at no point it was like
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: disappointed and Claire, at no point where any of us disappointed.
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: In fact, it was the contrary, and we said, Babe,
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: we love you, We're here for you, this is your show,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: do what you want. We're gonna let you lead the way.
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: And Claire said it herself, She's like, I'm unconventional. I've
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: taken control of this from the start, and this is
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: what I'm gonna do. And so I was. I was
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: happy to go on that ride as well as it was.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: Talking to producers, so many, pretty much everybody said that
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: they had never seen this kind of instantaneous connection, this
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: kind of front runner situation like they have with Claire
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: and Dale. If there was another couple in Bachelor history
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: that you can say you felt was pretty certain from
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: week one, who would have been Ben in Olivia. It
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: all comes back around. But I mean, and I hate
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: to use Ben and beat on him, but that's a
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: good example of how things usually go is night one
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: and you guys both know this intimately night one, you're
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: really just getting a gut instinct. Sometimes that gut does
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: pay off. Um, whether it's you know, Ryan and Trista
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: or Joe Joe and Jordan's. But and if you ask
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: them now, look, they're not dumb that they're trying to
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: get married, or they are married, they're gonna say, oh, baby,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: it was always you. Baby, You're the one. You know, Baby,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: you're the best I've ever had. Um, you know. But
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: the truth is somewhere in between, which is if you
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: really allow yourself like Ben, you're gonna go off and
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: you're gonna explore everything. This is the one time where
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: you truly don't have to just stop. You can continue
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: figuring it out. Um. Look at Sean Low, He's a
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: great example of somebody if we had stopped the show,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: he wouldn't be with Kathy it Um. You know, I
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: think this is not a detriment or a throwing shade
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: at Claire, but I think often you are doing yourself
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: a disservice by not exploring all of these This is
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: the one time you get to step out of your
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: comfort zone, date people you wouldn't date, meet people you
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: wouldn't meet, and really push yourself to be uncomfortable. That
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean you're gonna fall in love with this particular person,
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: but now you know what you are looking for. And
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: so you know there are times when someone might find
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: someone night one, but do they really you know it
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: ebbs and flows and and oftentimes they think they know
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: and they don't. And so usually it's a journey you
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: really do need to go on to be certain of
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: your love. And we really reaffirmed that love at first
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: sight feeling. Um, you know, for Claire, it was ballgame,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: you know. And so I will stand by that comment.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: No matter what revisionist history people would like to reimagine
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: in their head, that's never happened. Nobody has ever looked
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: at me dead in the eye and said, my husband
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: just walked in. This is a of her and hyperventilating
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: and sweating. Well, we were all sweating, but you know
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: what I mean. The uh, Chris, this is this. I
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: agree with what you said at the beginning. It was
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: this is some of the best television ever produced, considering
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: there was a pandemic, considering the situations that you're in. Uh.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: I think it's a great point and you always are
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: good to do this, but to pause here, uh and say,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: like the team behind the scenes, UH did a tremendous
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: job making this season happen. I mean, absolutely incredible and
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: that should never be forgotten. But it points me to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: my next question. Um, you make your job look really easy.
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: I think one of the biggest maybe like things that
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: are I find most offensive when somebody comes to us
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: like Chris Harrison has the easiest job in the world.
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: I don't think any of us would ever say that
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that have been on the show. But you make it
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: look easy. How do you personally stay calm, collected, like uh,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: engaged in the midst of what's going on behind the
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: scenes with two people who are you know, going scooter
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: hering back and forth to try to keep a show going.
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: What what do you have to do to get in
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: that mindset and make this look like, okay, everything's okay,
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: We're going to move forward. It is. It's juggling a
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: lot of balls and once and that is you know,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: the producer's side of me. But then at the end
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: of the day, it's it's it's what would I, you know,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: do with my kids? And I think being a dad
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: of two teenagers and and and with age comes this
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: wisdom and experience too. And I'm a little older than
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: everybody now is to come in and have this grace
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: and empathy and you know, tell me what you want
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: and what Claire was difficult. She was difficult, not in
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: a bad way, but just I know her well and
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: I know that there's some serious insecurities. And you saw
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: that last conversation when I went back in because she
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: was crying, because she was still doubting what was happening.
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: Even after Dale had really like exposed himself and explained
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: how much he loved her and was ready to take
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: that next steps, she just couldn't believe this was going
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: to happen. And so that was just me being a
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: loving father and stepping in and saying, you know, forget,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: forget the show, forget being a producer. You've got to compartmentalize,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: just like a Bachelor of Bachelotte does. So I do
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the same where I stopped producing and I'm like, Okay,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: I'm just gonna be here for you We're just going
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: to talk this through and if it turns out to
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: be on television, grade if it doesn't, I don't care.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: But as you know, a lot of stuff happens that
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: never ends up on TV that I do. UM, sometimes
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: we're not there's not even cameras around where you know,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: someone might be spinning out of control or just struggling
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: and I just sit down and have a drink with
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: them and we just shoot the shop. And UM, I
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: have a very bizarre job because it's not just sitting
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: in front of a television camera and hosting like I'm
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: doing Who wants to be a millionaire? Um, A lot
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: of stuff happens behind the scenes where it may never
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: be on TV, but the effect will be on TV.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: If that makes sense. Now, I question all the times
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: that we sat and had a cock toil together if
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: I was actually spinning out of control and didn't realize
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: it myself. But it also helps me too, like I
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: like to know what's going on, and so that's a
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: weird thing. It's a weird job, you know. You know,
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: it's a strange career to have where I am like
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: I'm talking to two people that I dearly love and
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: are and are very good friends of mine, and I'm
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: really involved and care about your lives. Yet you were
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: on my television show that I was also trying to produce,
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: and that's a weird line to draw. And I have
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: to be very careful, and I always err on the
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: side of being human and caring about you guys, And
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: sometimes I just want to know what's going on, and
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: that helps me treat you. I just don't ever want
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: to be that a whole that threw somebody under the
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: bus or or mistreated you. And look, sometimes I'll push you.
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll you know, be you know, misleading in certain
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: ways if it's you know, if I know I can
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: get away with it if it's good TV. But at
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the end of the day, you guys know, and I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: will tell everybody, I will not lie to you. I'm
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: not going to screw you over like unless you deserve it.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Unless you push me, I'll push back. You know that. Um,
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: But I at the end of the day, I have
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: your back and I'll be there for you you always. Yeah.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: So then to follow up on all of that, you
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: you do you treat this like you you care about Claire. Uh,
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you're treating her uh like a daughter as a friend
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: when she tells you, then I love Dale and I
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: want this to be done. You then obviously believe like
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: your your daughter and son come to you sometimes and
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: say things that you're like, that's not good for you,
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Like that's not right, Like I need to correct you here,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: But at that moment, you obviously believe that was the
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: right thing to do. If you allowed it to happen,
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: why were you so confident this was the right move? Well,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: and I again, it's I don't know if that's necessarily
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: the case, Like, you know, again, you could go back
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: to being a dad. It's you know, my daughter Taylor
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: comes in and says, Dad, I love I love Tommy.
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: You know we're gonna get married. And you know she's
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: sixteen years old. Um, hopefully it's not that drastic um.
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: And and you know Tomy's gonna be walking with a
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: lip for a while. But no, but you know, I've
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: learned if I go in and say Taylor, you're forbidden
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: from seeing him, You're never going to talk to him.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: You know, what's she gonna do? I mean, Ashley loves
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: romantic comedies as much as I do. All you're gonna
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: do is make that person run to them immediately. And so,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: you know, my thing with Claire was not to tell
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: her she's wrong, because who's to say she is? By
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: the way? Um, And that's something I learned a long
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: time ago as well, Like, just because I think something
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: doesn't make it so. It doesn't make it right. It
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: doesn't make it it's not it's not so black and white.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: And so telling Claire from the beginning you're wrong there's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: no such thing as love at first sight, Well, that's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: naive and stupid and arrogant of me. And so maybe
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: I need to learn something here. And so it's more
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: of Claire tell me from the moment this happened, which
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: was night one, explained to me what you're seeing in Dale?
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: And so it wasn't just this this light bulb moment.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: There was several days and several, like you know, a
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: few weeks where we were having these deep conversations, sometimes
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: on camera, sometimes off of like what is it about Dale?
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: What are you feeling? What is it in your past
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: that's making you do this? You know, So when we
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: got to that moment, I did feel secure in that, Okay,
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you are making this decision, and I'm going to support it,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: And it doesn't mean I agree. That's not my job
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: and it's not my job as a parent to always agree.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: But it is my job once you have made a decision,
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: to support you anyway I can and and to still
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: be there for you. And it doesn't mean she won't
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: fall on her face. It doesn't mean my kids won't fail.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: But you have to be given enough leeway to make
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: your own mistakes in life. And again that's not saying
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: this is a mistake, but you. That is important that
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: you're not that dad or not that person that just
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: says then you're wrong, You're an idiot. It's like, well,
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: that's not given anybody not to make this political. I
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: think we saw enough of that over the last several years,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: of people just canceling you or telling you you're stupid,
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: telling you whatever you're saying is wrong. It's like, well,
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: where do you go from that? Where's the grace, where's
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: the room to talk and debate and have a conversation.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: How am I ever going to evolve and learn? If
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: you just tell me I suck and I'm stupid, that's
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: I just I've never understood that. And that is our
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: political parties right now, and not the parties, it's the people.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: You believe your side so much that if if anybody
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: disagrees with you, they're just idiots. Well, where's the room
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: to grow? And I and in this case, I had
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: to give her room to grow, and I needed to grow.
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: So when you walked into the room and he said, Okay, Claire,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: we gotta we're gonna make a decision here, how do
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: you think that conversation was gonna go? Um? I wasn't sure. Really,
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: that's the weird part. I mean, you should never produce
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: a show where you don't know the outcome. And I
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: mean it's really it's like TV one oh one. You
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: go to school, it's like when you're learning journalism, don't
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: ever ask a question you don't know the answer to. Um.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: And that's our entire show is we're asking a question
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: we don't know the answer to. So it's a really
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: dangerous way to produce TV. But I thought I knew
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: what she would say, But I wasn't so sure that
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: she was going to be so wrong in her convictions
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: that she was going to be willing to shut things down.
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: And that's where that dinner came from. And even at
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: that dinner, I wasn't so sure that we wouldn't just
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: put Dale back in the house and kick back up again,
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: and then who knows what happens again. You know, there
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: was no definitive set answer to Tastia's our new back cerette.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: By this point, I will tell you we had already
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: called her and she was on property, but that didn't
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: mean she was the bacherette yet. That just means she
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: took a leap of faith and if things kept going
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: that direction, in this direction, then she would be. But
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: there was never that moment of Tassia just because she
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: she's here, is going to be our bacherette. Claire had
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to lead us down that road. And when we got
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: to a point where the show ends, and I think
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: everybody's been watching the show for twenty years, you know,
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: when the show ends, there's a proposal, that's it, Like
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: that's ballgame, we move on. And so Claire took us
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: to that point, and Dale took us to that point,
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: and that then, and really only then were we sure
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: that she was going to be the bachelorette. And anything
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: before that, If anybody tells you any different, they're lying.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: It's just raw. But Tasia was there clearly she needed
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: to come because the protocol for getting tested medically to
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: be safe, figure out what we would do with clothes,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: because it's not as easy as just going shopping because
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: we can't shop for you, So we had to figure
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: out a lot of things. So she was there, but
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: she knew as well as all of us that it
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: wasn't a set deal until this couple was you know,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: well not even till they were engaged. It was just
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: until Claire made a definitive decision. So it's bananas to
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: me is that over the past two weeks or so,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: there's been a lot of rumors that Claire didn't feel
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: like she was in charge, that she felt like, you know,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: she had to go along with productions decisions. But watching
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: this episode, it makes it seem like she was given
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: the decision making power the entire way through and that
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: she made the decision that she loves some watch. So
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: how do you address those rumors and why are they
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: even floating around? I don't know. I mean, I haven't
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: heard Claire saying anything, um, you know, and until I
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: hear Claire say something along those lines, then you know,
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: all I can say is and I texted with Claire
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: back and forth, and I think she understands this too.
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: It was all in in her hands. I mean, I
• 39:20
  Speaker 1: can't tell you how many times I sat down with
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: her and you saw a lot of it, and said,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: you tell me, where does this go from here? What
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: do you want to do? I want time with Dale? Okay,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: I mean, in unprecedented fashion, we stopped the show and
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: gave her a bizarre, uh kind of overnight fantasy suite
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the show. I mean, that's just
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: it's unpressent. So not only did she have control, but
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: we also moved mountains to make things happen that shouldn't
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: be happening right now. And so yeah, I mean she
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: had total control. You know. Yes, we push things along
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: because that's how that that's also how the show goes of. Okay,
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: well this is the next step. They crossed that hurdle. Okay, well,
• 39:58
  Speaker 1: now this is the next step. Where does this go
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: from here? And that's engagement. And then once there was
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: an engagement, um, then there's no forcing. It's just that's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: where the show. I mean, I don't know what else
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: we would have done. And just let's show the meeting,
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: dinner every night together, watching Netflix. That's that's not a
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: television show. But even with that said, you saw in
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: the tease, we still bring them back and we still
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: have conversations. We're still going to keep up with them, um,
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: you know, as things go along. But there is no
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: more show. She's not dating anybody body anymore, and so
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure what else anybody would want us to do.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Things took its natural order and progress, and then it
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: was time to move on and start another season of
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: the back turette Now. I have a couple more follow
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: up questions to that. Um, but before we transfer, transfer
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: just for a bit into mainly bands talking about proposals. Uh,
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: you had mentioned that this a few weeks ago. And
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: this is something that actually I've been uh confused by
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: since then, is that there's Claire season. You made that comment. Um,
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: why that comment? Because it still doesn't fit with where
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: where we know we're going with the show now. M m. Well,
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: but because it was well, first of all, we weren't
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: talking about who was next, you know, what was happening,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: so we weren't gonna givewayplose that's first and foremost, um,
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: And and that was also out of respect for Claire.
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: You know, we we had a lot of meetings behind
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: the scenes ABC and producers and the promos department, like
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: when do we announced Stasia, what do we do with that?
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: And again the decision time and time again was protect Claire,
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: protect this season for her, let her promos run. I
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: want her to feel like she has as much of
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: this experience as possible. And when I say it was
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: a Claire, I mean until it wasn't it really was
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: for Claire. Yeah, we started making arrangements just in case
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: something went absolutely bonkers, which it did, but it was
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: still about Claire, facilitating her relationship, making sure she was happy,
• 41:56
  Speaker 1: making sure she got engaged, pushing pause, creating this bizarre
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: moment in relationship with Dale, and then it can become
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: about Tatia and moving on. But up until that moment,
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: I I would beg to differ that it wasn't a
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: about Claire. I mean maybe you could argue as because yeah,
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: we started looking towards the future of what do we
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: do with this television show because we also have to
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: deliver ten or thirteen episodes to ABC and we have four,
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: uh so we need a little bit more TV. We
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: have eight eight times doce we have sixteen hours. We
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: still need to deliver to ABC or else I'm getting fired. Um.
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: And so yeah, we had to look down the road
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: a little bit. But I fully stand behind the fact
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: that I poured my heart and soul into Claire right
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: up until the time I knew it was okay, not
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: too That makes sense now that does that clarifies it? Um? Clarify? Yeah,
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't can't. You can't get away
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: from it. I can't get away from it. Um, let's
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: take a break here from the show. I know Ashley
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: has a few more questions to ask about this episode
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: and where we're going. But we did see a proposal.
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I am in aged um as well. And Uh, with
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: those two things combined, I have chosen to get a
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: manly band, uh for my wedding ring, which I'm super
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: pumped about. I've gone through a couple of options. In fact,
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: it's interesting I was going to get one tattooed on
• 43:17
  Speaker 1: my hand. I still might, um, just for golf and
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: for you know, whatever you do. And I and Jess
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: and I were trying to figure out what we're gonna
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: do about having a wedding ring. Well, I see Chris
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: come out with this ring set uh and this partnership. Uh.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: He reaches out kindly enough says, hey, you know, are
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: you interested? I'm gonna I'm choosing to because I love him. Uh. Chris,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: before we jump back into the show, tell us what
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: mainly Bands is. Why you chose to do it with
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: manly bands where this is gone? It's really cool. I
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: love stories like this again. It's a little bit like
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: the Batchlor. It's just a great love story that happened
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in this this weird meeting where the folks are mainly bands.
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: It's this true, kind of great American story of this
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: husband and wife that we're getting married. He's a big dude.
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: No rings fit him. There was no variety because there
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: really isn't variety for men. And they decided to create
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: a company. And this husband and wife created a ring
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: company called Mainly Bands, and now it's this massive success.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: And they came to me and said, hey, will you
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: help us with some promo videos. You're kind of the
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: master of love and matchmaking. We'd love to kind of
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: promote our brand. And like any company, before I do anything,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: I get to know them. I want to know what
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: they're all about and what they represent and I fell
• 44:26
  Speaker 1: in love with them and I said, hey, can we
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: do something more substantial than some silly videos? And they
• 44:31
  Speaker 1: said what do you have in mind? And I said,
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know. We started talking and now this is
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: what's happened, is this collaboration where I have my own
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: wedding ring collection and we we dove in came up
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: with this amazing variety of materials and rings and looks
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: and feels and you know, you've seen them, Ben, And
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: the main thing for me is and I've been married before,
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and I think the wrong ring is was the main
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: cause of my implored But in all seriousness, there there's
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: really no variety. And so what I love is you
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: look through this collection and you find your personality, you
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: find a ring that speaks to you, Um, you know,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: actually you and you and Jared, you know, go through
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: this and it's like, Okay, there's silver, there's gold. There's
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: really not a whole lot there. And so I love
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: the fact that you can find something that has wine
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: barrel in it, or something that has diamonds, or something
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: that has meteorite or dinosaur bones, something a little country,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: a little rocket rolled. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Dinosaur bones.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: I it's I. I have to hear about this dinosaur
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: bones because I saw on the website. Are they like,
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: where do you Yeah, where do you dinosaurs? This is
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: the weird part. I have to sneak into the Museum
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: of History at night. Yeah, you know, it's crazy. So
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: there are and this is the things you learned. There
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: are bones that people have unearthed, uh, that are just
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: too small to display. They're too small to fit on
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: anything in a museum. I mean tiny, tiny bones that
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: are never going to be used. And so they say
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: or they donate these bones and they're too small to
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: do anything with but as far as a museum, but
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: plenty to use in bits of rings and other materials.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: And so we take these bones and we you know,
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: repurpose them. You know what's cool is we have meteorite
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and we have dinosaur bones. So the thing that dinosaurs,
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: it's all full circle. It's this weird dark but yeah,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: so there's some really cool different materials and looks, and
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't be opposed to, you know, having
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: several rings, you know, like you know, I don't know
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: what look ash. I would never say, wear the same
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: dress and the same purse. Every single day of your life.
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you want to dress up sometimes, you know,
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: like you look like Ben does now and your casual
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: and uh, you know, you just want to be bopping
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: around and the cool thing is to have been. First
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: of all, we send you a ring sizing things, so
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: you you size, you know exactly what size to tell us.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: But we also send you the silicone ring um that
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: you get to keep, and so you could take your
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: ring off like I had to when you play golf
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: because it hurts, And it's this cool silicone band that
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: you can put on so you don't have to permanently
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: tattoo anything to you. But it doesn't hurt when you're
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: playing sports, working out any of that stuff. So it's
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: it's kind of a cool thing you can slip on.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: This is a great I mean, this is such a
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: good idea because you're right there. I mean, Ashley, you're married.
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: I'm on my way to there. When Jared is picking
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: out a ring, there isn't a plethora of choices up
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: until something like this. That's so true, No, I mean,
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: that's really how sentimental is Jared's ring. Can we can
• 47:37
  Speaker 1: we get him to switch? Can we get him a ring.
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: He'd be down to get get one that he could
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: like play sports, lift, weights in and stuff like that.
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: But I want to be like a number twelve Tom
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: Brady ring. Yeah, I mean, can you get him a
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: super Bowl ring he'll wear on his left finger? That
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: would he loved that? Yeah, be engraved like inside, Yeah, absolutely,
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: when you're it's really cool. It's something I got really
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: excited about. I'm really proud of it people that have
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: found it already. It's been a huge, huge success that
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: people are falling in love with and the quality of
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: these rings are awesome. And by the way, this Friday
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: is Black Friday and so um, massive sales on if
• 48:17
  Speaker 1: you go to the site. So go to mainly bands
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: dot com. If you're ever gonna do it, do it
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: this week because there's massive deals weeks Black Friday. What
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: do you mean, I'm so confused. We're starting We're starting
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Friday sale. Yeah, it's mainly Bands Black Friday sale. Okay,
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: So before we go back in, I know Ashley's itching
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: right now. She's itching, like literally itching to ask you
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: more questions about this episode. Um, where can people find
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: mainly bands? Uh? And uh? And then we can move on.
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: But the coolest thing is you don't ever have to
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: leave your house, which is kind of important these days.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: There's no brick border, you're not going to a store online.
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: You pick the ring you want, we send you the
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: ring size or you get this cool thing and you
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: size exactly what you want size of your ring, and
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: then you tell us and then we ship it out
• 49:02
  Speaker 1: to you, so you never leave your house. Everything fits perfectly. Um,
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: money back, you know, you know, you get your life
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: lifetime guarantee on the ring, so anything goes wrong or
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: doesn't fit, we'll fix it, um and you're gonna absolutely
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: love it. So it's I mean, it couldn't be easier. Um,
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: you know. And look, guys, we're not complicated, but we're
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: also not smart, so we we've done this down. We
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: make it as easy as possible. No matter what you're
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: what you're there's a ring for you as far as
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: there's none of them are crazy, crazy prices and so
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: it's very affordable. You can find a ring, and if
• 49:34
  Speaker 1: for some reason there's nothing in my collection, just go
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: to Mainly Bands too, because you're on that website and
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: there's a thousand other rings to choose from. Sweet man Hey,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: Manly bands dot com is there where we go? Yep,
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: go to mainly bands dot com and look for the
• 49:46
  Speaker 1: Chris Harrison collection, look for my pretty face. Awesome things. Appreciate.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: We talked about your pretty face for a second. Why
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: are you getting so much better looking with age? Like
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: you've always been a handsome man, but it's like you're
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: taking handsome pills or something, because like you get hotter
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: every season. First of all, thank you. I'm glad you're
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: saying that instead of Ben. But that's you know, that's
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: all Gina Modica. Uh, she's she's my secret weapon. Geane
• 50:09
  Speaker 1: has been with me for god over twenty years now.
• 50:12
  Speaker 1: She's my he's my longest relationship. Yeah, Gene is my
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: is my makeup artist, and I am so thankful that
• 50:19
  Speaker 1: she started. She's like, you know, my the big sister
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: that I probably never needed um and she just you know,
• 50:25
  Speaker 1: has beaten me for the last twenty years of wearing sunscreen,
• 50:29
  Speaker 1: taking care of myself, all the things that you know, moisturizing,
• 50:32
  Speaker 1: and she's introduced me to these great products and things
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: and so luckily obviously good DNA, good genetics, thank God
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: for my mom and dad. But she's taking care of
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: me over the last twenty years and so you know,
• 50:43
  Speaker 1: but what I do laugh about is I never shoot
• 50:46
  Speaker 1: in the same studio, so I guess my hair looks
• 50:49
  Speaker 1: different from time to time. It'll be darker or lighter
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: or whatever. People like, oh, nice spray job, dude, he's
• 50:54
  Speaker 1: up on the paint or whatever. I'm like, guys like
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: you guys, are you guys have been near me enough
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: to know there's plenty of gray up. Yeah, yeah, well
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: it's I think I like you when you're scruffy and
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: you have like you're dressed down. So you had those
• 51:11
  Speaker 1: conversations a lot during this episode, so I was I
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: was like on the phone with my mom. I was like,
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: why is Chris Harrison keep getting better looking? And then
• 51:18
  Speaker 1: Jared in the background goes, it's true, he's getting better looking.
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: So it's not just me Jared. By the way, when
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: you're in the desert and it's a eighty degrees, that's
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: really good. You're really god. Okay, but let's go back
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: to proposals now. So she gets a gorgeous ring. It
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: was a beautiful proposal, and I know how you're going
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: to answer this question. But like during their dinner conversation,
• 51:43
  Speaker 1: and during like their little sleepover, I was like, I
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: feel it. I totally feel it. I love this. Um,
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: this is so crazy that this is happening so quickly.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: But then like when you're like, okay, it's time to propose, now,
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: I was like, now this is wild, this is ridiculous.
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: That's where it crossed over to like, this is ridiculous
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: to me. But in bachelor fashion, that's the way we
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: have to end it, right, that's where we go. Well,
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: you don't have to you know again, you have to
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: understand that was just the point where we were. What
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: you decide to do with it is up to you.
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: And that's always the fascinating thing with this show is
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: you push people out of their comfort zone. You push
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: them to to these decisions and these crossroads, and you know,
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: given you know, your own leisure whatever, you could just
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: go on forever. But when it gets down to Claire
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: and Dale as a show, we said, okay, now what
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: and so we took the next night, that night and
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: the next day, and we were talking about it if like, well,
• 52:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, we're not just gonna watch Claire and Dale
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: go to the movies every night. We were at the
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: point where after after this moment in the show, there
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: is a decision to be made. What do you guys
• 52:57
  Speaker 1: want to do? And it was very clear the more
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: we talked to him, they head over heels and love
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: and so we proposed the idea of them proposing, and
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Dale said, sure, I'm in I love this woman, Let's
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: do this. So that's where we ended up, and it
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: was it was a bizarre. It was a bizarre level
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: to get to because it was so extreme, but that's
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: where they were, That's how extreme it was. And so
• 53:21
  Speaker 1: when you saw that proposal, it all felt to me.
• 53:24
  Speaker 1: It felt lovely, and it felt wild, and it felt
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: again unprecedented. Um, it was. It was very interesting to watch.
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: I agree. Once it happened, I was like, okay, yeah,
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: that's right, all right, let's look. I'm so happy for them.
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: This is great. But it was like the lead up
• 53:39
  Speaker 1: to like, wait, oh my gosh, these people have known
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: each other for ten days? Can we confirm or deny?
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: Has it? It was it about ten days? I think
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: it was longer than that, but it wasn't much more
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: than that. Um, you know, probably too, you know, twelve
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: or fourteen or something like that at that point, you know,
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: because There were days off too. We took you know,
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: we're working to take days off, but there were days
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: where we had to stop and say, okay, what are
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: we doing? Where do we go from here? Because again,
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: it's just it's hard to explain how we are trapped
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: in a bubble. And it's not like we could just
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: you know, maneuver and move things in and change dates around.
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: We were pretty confined trying to figure this out. Um.
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: So there was there was a lot of work and
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: meetings and stuff that had to happen um and then
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: people are being consulted outside, whether it's you know, Rob Mills,
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Mike Flice and Martin Hilt all these people that weren't
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: in the bubble. We were having to you know, try
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: and consult and they're trying to comprehend what is going on,
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: you know, inside this bubble because for them to get
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: in takes you know what, five six days, and so
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: it wasn't just where you could just swing by and
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: see what was happening. So there was a lot of
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: moving parts to get to that moment that we made
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: look pretty smooth. And there was no hesitation on Dale's
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: Park none, I mean not to me anyway. You know.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you said something to anybody else,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: but every time I talked to him, he looked me
• 54:57
  Speaker 1: straight in the eye and said, I love this girl.
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: I'm all in. I said, okay, great, well, let me
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: call Neil Lane and we had to you know, I'm
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: calling Neil Lane, who I face timed him. I didn't
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: know if they would even use that, but they did.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: My Neil, Um, I need a ring. And this is
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: again talk about a fortuitous balance. If we weren't where
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: we were, which was a two hour drive from l A.
• 55:20
  Speaker 1: We actually had to have a ring driven out to
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: the property and dropped off at production because we didn't
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: have a ring. Why would we It was two three
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: weeks into production. Okay, So watching this engagement, I may
• 55:34
  Speaker 1: get flag for saying this, but oh well, um and
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: made me kind of annoyed that Claire accepted ben Wah's engagement,
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: because I just feel like that was so premature and
• 55:44
  Speaker 1: I feel like, personally, in my opinion, she accepted his
• 55:50
  Speaker 1: proposal on that stage because he didn't. She didn't want
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: to embarrass him, and um, and I don't know, I
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: think that's I think that not complete leave wrong, maybe,
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: but not completely fair in that I would stay knowing
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: clear like I do now. I think she wanted something
• 56:08
  Speaker 1: so bad. Yeah, you know how you want something so
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: bad that you're able to kind of look past a
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: lot of hurdles and red flags and and you just
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: you want it so bad that you just kind of
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: manifested like she had hoped for it. She was like,
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: this may not feel right now, but like I'm going
• 56:25
  Speaker 1: to go for it and give it a go. Yeah.
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: And I don't know if you've ever been in a relationship.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I think we all have at some point if you
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: get mature enough in your life where you have entered
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: into a relationship. Maybe it's not a proposal, but you've
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: entered into a relationship. You're like, this isn't but like,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: I think maybe I could make it work. I could
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: maybe change him, or I can look past this, and
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: and then later and then later you look back down
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: the road, you're like, what the hell was I thinking? Um,
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: not that Ben was a bad guy or it was
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: a mistake, but clearly they were two different people heading
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: two different directions and it wasn't going to work. And
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: it's easy to say in hindsight, but I think she
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: just really wanted love and wanted to be loved so
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: bad that she just I think she was willing to
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: look past a lot of those red flags and make
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: it work and make it happen, makes the fairy tale.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: That's not my place to say that, Like, you know, whatever,
• 57:19
  Speaker 1: it's like if Claire Claire makes her decisions, and I'm
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: not saying that that takes away from this moment, but
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: I think that this moment felt so much more full
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: of love and real and and to me too by
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: you know, I will defend Claire and I will defend
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: this decision and everything we did because at the end
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: of the day, look, is it gonna work out with
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: Clarien Dale who knows? Who knows? Is it gonna work
• 57:42
  Speaker 1: out with Ashley and Jared? Who knows? You know? You know,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: it's easy to say, as someone who's sitting here with
• 57:48
  Speaker 1: her hand up of a relationship that didn't work out,
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: It's easy to say something's not gonna work because guess
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: what odds are it's not. Love is hard, and Ben's
• 57:58
  Speaker 1: been in the same boat. It's hard, it it's difficult,
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: and it often doesn't. But when it does work, and
• 58:03
  Speaker 1: when you see something beautiful, why not support it and
• 58:05
  Speaker 1: just love it and give it a chance, because you know,
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: nine times at a ten it may fail. But um,
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: it felt great. I love them in that moment, and
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: I felt like there was love there, so I'm there
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: to support it. You know, it's so easy to sit
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: back and go, this is crazy your mind. You guys
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: did this. She did this. It's like, who cares? Like,
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: there're there. Let's let's just send him some love right
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: now before we wrap this up, and I know we
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: we do. I have to just mentioned that I think
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: that this episode really solidifies the fact that these two
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: did not talk before the airing of the show. I
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: mean before they can we talk about this? Um, I
• 58:50
  Speaker 1: am only is as good as my eyes and heart
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: tells me to be, and I only can say things
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: with the information I have at the moment. And I
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: can't tell you how many conversations I've had with Claire
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: and a few with Dale, but mostly with Claire because
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: I'm just more intimate with her on the show, And
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: to my eyes, I don't think they did. I truly
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: don't think they talked. There was there were several moments
• 59:16
  Speaker 1: and I went back and watched and remembered that first
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: night because I had immediate suspicions. But the way they
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: introduced each other, the conversations they had, and you guys
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: didn't see at all. You only saw parts of obviously
• 59:28
  Speaker 1: what we air. But nothing felt familiar to me, Nothing
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: felt rehearsed. It didn't feel like they were faking it, like, hey,
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: remember you don't know me. Um. There was just these
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: basic questions that they asked that I don't think they
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: you know, this isn't Meryl Streep and Tom Cruiser, Daniel
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: bid Lewis. They're not that brilliant. They would have tripped up.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: And there were just things that happened that lead me
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: to believe she did look him up on social media.
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: She she totally has owned that she looked at a
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: lot of those guys. She had great expectations, She built
• 59:58
  Speaker 1: him up in her head. She went in with almost
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: kind of like a celebrity crush on him. But I
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 1: think that that's it. Yeah, I think I think she
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: wanted to love him. I think she wanted him to
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: smell good and be tall, dark and handsome, and and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: he was. He was all those things. And as soon
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: as she saw that smile and no joke smelled him Um,
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: sniffing his pants was a whole different level. But that
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: was weird And Dianna I have a problem with Dianna
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 1: for being an you know, an enabler and that. But no,
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I I I just want to put that to rest.
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: And again, I'm not saying I'm a accurate this is
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: just my opinion. That's it. Chris's final question for you.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Thanks for spending some time with us. Thanks for hanging
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 1: out with us. It's been an awesome, awesome experience, and
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 1: it's always good to catch up with you, especially about
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: the show and then about life. Where do we go
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: from here? We have a bunch of guys still sitting there.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: What are your hopes for them? Uh? You know obviously
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 1: how this plays out. But if this, if you can
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: go backtrack to this night, on that day when you
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: can front the boys again and you bring Tatia in,
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: what were you thinking, what you're hoping for? Um, this
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: is actually the first time I actually excitedly get to
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: speak about Tasha, Who's who, as you guys know, is
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: a very dear friend of mine. I've gotten to know
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: her for a couple of years now and I absolutely
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: adore her. I think she is a fantastic woman. Obviously
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: stunningly beautiful, but she is so kind and giving and
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: just sweet and down to earth. Um, it just has
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: such balance about her and this this this great energy,
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: She's this type of person you just want to be around.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 1: So I'm really excited. I it's not that Claire shouldn't
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: have been the bachelrette, and stop saying that, you know,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: this doesn't This isn't an either or proposition. Taste is
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: just someone who I wanted to be the bachelorette. I
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: fought for her. I wanted her to be on our list,
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: and she was, and as soon as we had the
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: chance to have another one, Um, I was so excited
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: when we all decided she was it. And and and
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: it's not that we didn't talk about other people, but
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: I can promise you the list, there was Tasha, and
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: then there was the rest. We really wanted it to
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: be Tasia, and I'm glad that she came in and
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: because I knew that she And also, let me just
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: say something else when I say the guys, I feel
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 1: like these guys were cheated in a certain way. Doesn't
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: mean Claire screwed them over. Claire just found love. And
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: so I just this is a great group of guys.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: I and I don't know if we've ever had this great,
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: solid group before, which is strong, professional, mature, good dudes.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: And I didn't want to waste this group of guys.
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: And so you know, people like, oh, you're reusing them
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: or repurposing him, and like these guys haven't found love yet?
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: Why not? This is an awesome, awesome group of guys,
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: And so I was excited to have Tasia meet this
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: group and bring them together. I thought there was gonna
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: be some perfect fits in here. So I was it
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: was bizarre to all of a sudden have gone through
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the craziest moments in my career and then start over
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: and have a Limo pull up. It was just like,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: what are we doing? It felt so bizarre to me too.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Then reset and we start. I can't begin to tell
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 1: you how odd it was. But I was excited and
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: I was so happy to see her, And it was
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: kind of a weird conversation when she got out, it
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: was you could tell it was kind of a couple
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: of friends talking is It was this kind of weird
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: moment of like, what are we doing here? Really weird?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: And obviously, starting next week, you're going to see the
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: rest of where it goes from here and now it's
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 1: all about tation, It's all about her journey. Although we
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: will check in and keep you up to date on
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: what's going on with Claire and Dale. What I think
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: is cool, or at least what my hope is is
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: that this season was very like Fateful, whereas there were
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: two women in the franchise who had their future husband's
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: in that group and they were meant to both be there.
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: I hope so. And and you know, I do want
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: to say one thing before I go, and and that
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: is I would ask everybody to just take it easy
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: on Claire. Um, she is getting beat up and torn
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 1: up in social media. And I get it. Social media,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: especially Twitter is an absolute just waste basket. You know.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: It's the vocal my milority people that want to troll
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: you and scream and yell whatever. And so I get it.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: You can ignore what's on Twitter, but people are going
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: after her and it's not deserved. You know, this woman
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 1: has done nothing wrong. There's nothing, there's nothing that Claire
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 1: has done that deserves anger in her to be vilified. Um,
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: if you don't agree how she did it, if you
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: don't agree how she treated the guys. I get that,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: and the guys were frustrated, and I was frustrated at
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 1: times too, But at no point was I mad that
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: this woman fell in love. Think about what you're mad at.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Who are you really mad at? Why are you mad
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: that this woman found the love of her life and
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: got engaged. If that's when you're pissed at, you need
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: to really reassess your life. Um. And so I just
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 1: would ask everybody to have a little grace and little understanding,
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: and let's support Claire. Let's support Dale, and let's see
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: what happens. And now let's also Supportation as our backs
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: are atte. I just I've just seen a lot of
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: anger and a lot of just things being spewed right now,
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 1: and it just kind of upsets me and and Claire
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: to it's this stuff too. Heart. I know that, especially
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: our female leads, tend to really lean into social media
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: a lot more than the guys do. Um. And it
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: just it breaks my heart when I see Caitlin, when
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: I say, well, Ash, you've had it to you and
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: you know it just it drives me crazy. And I
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: know that they've opened up their lives to social media.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: They've opened up their lives and agreed to be on TV,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: but nobody signs up for that. Um, if you want
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: to be frustrated, if you want to voice your opinion,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: God bless you, you are welcome to it. But just
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: think about it, think about drawing that line of where
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: you're going, Chris, you're the man? Um, Okay, before they go,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: should be still tun infortatious season? Yes or no? No? No,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: I would turn it off now. I do. Let people
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: that have said this is the worst season ever. Man,
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 1: you suck, You're the worst, And I'm like, well, record
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: ratings tells me different. We have had two of the
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: highest rated episodes. Uh, I think since last week was
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen. This week even higher. So um, something
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: tells me you're gonna be back. And the cool thing
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: is Tastia's journey is totally different. It really is same.
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: You know a lot of the same guys. Um, obviously,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: maybe you'll see some of the same guy spoiler alert, Um,
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: well you've already seen him sitting there, but maybe not
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: all the same guys. And so it's it's pretty interesting
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: to see where this journey goes. Because again, Claire is
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: not Tastia. Tastie is not Claire that everybody is different.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: They bring their own personality to this. Thank you did
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: you just do you just hear that say thank you
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: for clarifying? Yeah, thank you, thank you, Claire. Chris is
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: the best. I love him. You feel like he'd be
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: tired about talking about the friend chies, but when you
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: ask him questions, he rolls. He loves it. Yeah, you do.
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: Like I always used to think that Chris probably like
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: was like, I'm just sick of this thing. I don't
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 1: want to talk about it anymore. But then given the
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 1: right circumstances, like giving him the environment to which you know,
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: you ask him not the typical questions, but different questions,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: and you hear it a lot more now than ever,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: with different podcasts, not just ours. He really enjoys it.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: And you know what, Chris is getting more and more
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: into as he gets more and more comfortable, which you
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: know he's twenty years in. He really enjoys talking about
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 1: the just the amazing team behind the scenes, Like he
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: loves talking about the production, the cameras, the people helping out.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: I think he's just super grateful that they've helped him
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 1: have a job for this long. Yeah, it's such a
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 1: great family. I wish you guys could could know them.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: On the other side, I really wish that we can
• 1:07:52
  Speaker 1: interview some producers, but I know that's probably not allowed.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 1: But they're great people. Um, all right, well you guys,
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 1: we have some topics. Uh. First, starting with Claire wearing
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 1: the massive engagement ring the day that her final episode aired, Ben,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: did you see this yesterday? I did. It's a big deal.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: I felt like maybe it was sort of like a
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 1: commercial for watching the episode. With the election and everything,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: like maybe people's minds weren't all on the fact that
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 1: there was going to be a Bachelorrette episode airing on
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 1: a Thursday, and then the ring was kind of like
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna put my ring on and remind everyone that
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: the that possibly the engagement episode of tonight. It's, uh,
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: you know what's going on. I think she's super happy,
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: and I think she's probably waited for this. I imagine
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 1: right now that Claire is just like I want to
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: be done with the criticism, the hate and move on
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: with Dale and make this thing work. Um. In fact,
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: we saw them on Instagram Live last night and I
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: thought it was really cute. I thought it was a
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: great way for them to kind of, you know, uh,
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: announced themselves to the world. I agree. And yeah, Claire
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: just she just she looks great with that ring on.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: It fits. I feel great about it. Yeah. Um, I'm
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: just excited for them. I can't wait to watch more
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: of the relationship. Like I hate, I hate that there's
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: pressure for them to have to like show it off
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: on social media, But I have to say I'm very
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: excited to see that and get to know their relationship
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: more since we did have a few episodes. Yeah, it's right.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 1: And uh as Chris Harrison intervention, you know, somebody literally
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: had to drive down um to deliver this ring. That's hilarious.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: It's gorgeous. Next headline is it was announced this week
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: that Cassie Randolph dropped the restraining order against Colton Underwood. Well,
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 1: we also know now that Colton Underwood has taken down
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: all of his Instagram posts, like all of them. Actually,
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: what do we know? That's really all we know. Um,
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 1: he still got to two million and followers, but zero posts.
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 1: I know that sometimes celebrities will do this, that they're
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: about to launch something when they want a fresh start.
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, it seems like Colton would want to fresh start,
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: so he wiped his page clean of all pictures, not
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: just ones of Cassie. When I saw this headline yesterday,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: I thought, oh, yeah, he deleted the pictures of Cassie,
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: but no, just clean, no pictures from any time in
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: his life. Though there are no posts on the account,
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: his page is not the activated, it's just there's no
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: post all right. Next headline, Bachelor's Ti Era is engaged
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: to Tyler Brooks Brown, seven years after controversial stint on
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: Sean Lowe's season. Yes, if you guys remember back in
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 1: June when we were doing coverage of Sean Lowe's Goat episode,
• 1:10:50
  Speaker 1: we tried to track down Tierra Um. Apparently no one
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 1: has been in touch with her from her season or
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: in the Bachelor community since Sean season. But here she
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: is on Instagram announcing on Wednesday that she got engaged.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: Um in Tuloom, Mexico, the place of the first Bachelor
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 1: in Paradise and his name is Tyler Brooks and Um
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 1: she was. She was surrounded by red rose petals ironically
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 1: at the time of the engagement, and it was like
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: in a TP like structure. Seems eerily Bachelor esque. Hey,
• 1:11:33
  Speaker 1: good for her though. We celebrate that. But that is
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 1: the big headlines here is engaged now. The next one
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: is something we talked to Chris quite a bit about.
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 1: We took a long segment just talking about something cool
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: that he's been up to. Not only is he a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 1: host of a show, but he also has a collection
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: of manly bands wedding rings. They're pretty awesome. So if
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: you're out there you're thinking about getting engaged and your
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: man uh doesn't know kind of what he's looking for,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 1: hasn't found a ring he enjoys. I've been on Mainly
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 1: Band's website. They're really awesome. As Chris said again, if
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: you want to hear more about that, we talked to
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: Chris to a long extent about it during his segment. Well, Ben,
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: do we wrap up this episode with another story time
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: with Ben flying through these? Okay? Ben, um? The next
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: story is one of those ones that you've teased to
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 1: be intimate. I believe the time I had to sit
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 1: out of my senior year homecoming football game due to
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 1: a severe case of jocketch and the local papers headlot
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: in the local headline read Ben Higgins sits out of
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 1: game due to severe rash. Oh my god, Ben, this
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: is the last story that I copied and pasted, is
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 1: it really? Yeah? That's sad. Well I have one more
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: um that will share next week. But yeah, that I
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: think we're down in the final two. This is really
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: good story actually, and it might give a sense a
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: little bit more to why when I tell you or
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: I I announced publicly like hey, I've always been a
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: little insecure. Um that, like this really hints at Okay,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: so here's the deal. We gave a little background. This
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: is one of the most interesting stories, and and the
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: headline in the book doesn't really fully encompassed the whole
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: story itself. Um. So I was the quarterback on my
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: high school football team, I mean ow um, and I
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: was able to play as a freshman. Luckily, a couple
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: of guys got hurt. So it wasn't because I was good.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: It was just because I was alive for freshman and
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: the quarterback of the varsity team. Who are you and
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: why have you ever felt insecure? You're like a hometown dream. Well,
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: when three guys get hurt and you're pretty average, it
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 1: pretty it hurts you pretty bad. Um. So I'm I'm
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: so I'm playing football I really want to play in college. Um.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: Then junior year, I blew out my knee completely and
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: it kind of like changed my path because I was
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: just no longer as good or as fast, or at
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: all as athletic as I once was. And so I
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: had to come to terms that, hey, I'm gonna still
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 1: play football in my my senior year, but I gotta expect
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: to not be as good as I ever was hoping
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 1: to be. And I had to mentally get to this point. Well,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: so I was always kind of walking this line of
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: trying to prove to myself that I could still play
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: and I still want to put together a good season
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: so that I would feel like, hey, all this work
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: for all of these years have led up to something
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: um positive. Uh. And I carried that weight. I wanted
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 1: to be the best for really my confidence, for myself
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 1: and for my for the team. Well, um, it gets
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: to be homecoming. And our football team was pretty good.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: We had a good run going. We had won a
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: lot of games. And in a in a football this
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 1: is gonna get pretty graphic. And so just if you
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: if you get grossed out or if you don't want
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: to look at me in this way, just like turning
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: this off. Now, it's no big deal anything, but um,
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: in a football locker room, a lot of guys you
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: know obviously sit naked and change and like put on
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: their clothes, whether you sit on these like concrete benches,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: uh that are kind of in front of your locker. Well,
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: I had sat down one day, I guess, and I
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 1: had gotten some type of um like it's called it's
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: called a fistula. Quite honestly, an official is like a
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: really bad bacteria that like eats into your body and
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: it eats, it eats, like it tunnels a hole in
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: your body, um for whatever kind of it touches. So
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: I had this fishula that is, and if anybody out
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: there knows what official is, like they're gross and they're
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: really bad and like they hurt really really bad. And
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 1: so I got it right where you sit down, Like
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't. It wasn't jockey, that's the thing.
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: It wasn't jockets at all. Um, But like people don't
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: know what fishulas are, so I put jockets in the book.
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: But so I got this fishul up. It takes me
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: weeks of trying to get rid of it, like tons
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: of doctors appointments. Um, in fact, I had surgery, like
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: to cut cut it, cut it out. They would go, Yeah,
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: they would take these like um sticks that like uh
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: with like a silver knight, trade on them and try
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: to burn it out, like they stick it inside of
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 1: the fishila and try to burn out the back. It
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: was the worst couple of weeks. And I'm still trying
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: to play on top of all this. Well, finally I
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: can't take it anymore. Like it's gotten so bad and
• 1:16:21
  Speaker 1: it hurts so bad that I can't hardly walk and
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: there's no way I'm gonna be able to play a
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: football game. And so I have to get that surgery
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: that I just mentioned, and it's about a weak recovery.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: So when I get the surgery, I hadn't really told
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 1: many people obviously at this point in time, like hey, um,
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: you know I've got a fishila that I have this.
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: I told my coaches, but I wasn't like announcing it
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: publicly by any means. Um, I wasn't really hardly telling
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: my friends. But I had to wear a diaper because
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: you're bleeding so much, and so like you have this, yeah,
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: you have this adult Yeah you want to talk about
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: like a confidence kick. You are not only like somebody.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: You know, you're in your senior year, You're the quarter
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 1: You're hoping I have a good season. But like now
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: you're wearing a diaper to a football game and you're
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 1: you know you're bleeding. Um, yeah, it's rough. I told
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 1: you this is a graphic. Um. Well, okay. Fast forward
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: to the night of the game. It's a homecoming game. Uh,
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: the crowd is packed, and I have to tell my
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: coaches three days before the game, I can't play because
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 1: of this surgery. And they go, I get it, like
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: this is pretty bad. We've seen it, like you can't play, um,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: And so out of the goodness of their heart, they're like, well,
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 1: we have to obviously tell, like announce why you're not playing,
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: Like yeah, you you do. And they take it upon themselves.
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: These are football coaches. This isn't a good pr team
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: like this team. This these guys, these guys like are
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: just trying their best to keep some high school kids
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 1: running up and down the field. And they tell they
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 1: think the best option is to tell the local paper
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: and the media, uh that I'm sitting on the game
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 1: because I have a rash. And so literally the headline
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 1: of the paper reads Tigers win without Ben Higgins who
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 1: sat sits out the game because of a severe rash
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 1: and jocks. I mean, can you imagine the assumptions. Can
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: you imagine the jokes from people, your friends, family, like
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: people who are like reading this headline, going what kind
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: of rash do you have? Been? Like? How? The best
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: of all the story is how like? What? How severe
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 1: is this rash? Um? And I have to defend myself
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 1: to something I'm already insecure about that. No, it's not
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 1: a rash. It's actually just like this like bacteria, that's tunnel.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: It's way through my butt and it looks worse than ever.
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Now to close the story off, I did recover. I
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: did come back and play football. Um, I never I
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: never walked the hallways in my high school the same again.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: And there's another reason for that. Uh. And I'll tell
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: you that story next week. It's one that might top this.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: And it's okay, okay, you know why I didn't put
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: that on the list. I didn't put that on. I know,
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: I know the story you're about to tell, but I
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: didn't put on the list because I wasn't worried that
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 1: you weren't going to feel comfortable talking about it. Come on, people.
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: The one thing I've learned over my life is that
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 1: everybody has weird stuff going on. Everybody has um awkward moments.
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 1: And if the more I talk about it, it's the
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: lesson secure I feel, and it's the more other people
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: maybe out there can be like, oh, yeah, here's a
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 1: funny story I have. I mean, this is our podcast,
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 1: so let's just talk as much as we can. Hey, well,
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: thanks for asking. This has been a blast. Next week
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 1: will be our last story. And uh, and I'm glad
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 1: we've got to know a little bit more about me
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: in this whole experience. Well, hey, awesome to have Chris
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: Harrison on the podcast. It's always a pleasure to take
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 1: time out of his schedule to come onto this show
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: and give us all the details that he does. Uh.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 1: This has been another Almost Famous podcast. We'll be back
• 1:19:54
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• 1:19:57
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• 1:20:00
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