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- 0:11Speaker 4: My wife wants to adopt her sister's kids, so I
- 0:15Speaker 4: told her I'm leaving.
- 0:17Speaker 5: What's wrong with the kids? Are they dinosaurs?
- 0:20Speaker 4: Trigger warning for substance use disorder and depictions of very
- 0:24Speaker 4: toxic households. I've known my wife for nine years, dated
- 0:27Speaker 4: for five, and we've been married for just under six months.
- 0:31Speaker 4: She comes from an insanely toxic family. She was emancipated
- 0:36Speaker 4: at 16 and to this day refuses to speak to
- 0:39Speaker 4: any of her family. They all have a substance use
- 0:41Speaker 4: disorder with amphetamines and her sister is on it and
- 0:46Speaker 4: anything she can get her hands on. Her sister has
- 0:48Speaker 4: three kids, ages nine months, female, six years, male, and
- 0:53Speaker 4: 13 years, female. My wife began taking care of these
- 0:57Speaker 4: children when the first was born, when she was only
- 1:00Speaker 4: seven years old, because no one else would. For whatever reason,
- 1:04Speaker 4: CPS never took the kids away, despite near-constant monitoring. And
- 1:09Speaker 4: the last my wife knew of these kids was three
- 1:11Speaker 4: years ago when she permanently cut her family off. Her
- 1:15Speaker 4: parents always assumed she would adopt any children her sister produced.
- 1:18Speaker 4: This actually was the beginning of the rift that led
- 1:21Speaker 4: to her cutting her parents off. And we're never shy
- 1:24Speaker 4: about it.
- 1:25Speaker 1: That is insanity.
- 1:28Speaker 5: This is a horrible, horrible story.
- 1:31Speaker 4: When we started dating, she was 15. I was 17.
- 1:35Speaker 4: I told her that if she adopted those kids, then
- 1:37Speaker 4: the relationship wouldn't work. Because if I'm having kids, they
- 1:41Speaker 4: are going to need to be my own. And by
- 1:44Speaker 4: the way, this comes from user 123412341232122. And if you
- 1:50Speaker 4: want to submit your own stories, go to the r
- 1:51Speaker 4: slash OK Storytime subreddit. I'm Dakota.
- 1:53Speaker 5: And I'm Savannah.
- 1:54Speaker 4: And our job is to give our best good advice goofily.
- 1:58Speaker 4: This story might not be very goofy. It sounds very
- 2:02Speaker 4: serious and sad. But whatever you would do, let us
- 2:05Speaker 4: know in the comments because it might be different from us.
- 2:08Speaker 4: And OP says, there's an edit. My mind was going
- 2:11Speaker 4: a million miles an hour when I typed this. This
- 2:13Speaker 4: is not an all-encompassing statement. When I typed it, I
- 2:17Speaker 4: was focused on my current situation. I would not be
- 2:19Speaker 4: opposed to marrying someone with kids already. I just expected
- 2:23Speaker 4: never to raise these children and I do not want to.
- 2:27Speaker 4: She agreed and said she had no desire to ever
- 2:29Speaker 4: adopt her sister's kids. I also just deleted like five
- 2:33Speaker 4: paragraphs worth of useless details because I'm just ranting.
- 2:36Speaker 1: I will just get to the point.
- 2:37Speaker 4: So out of the blue last week, she tells me
- 2:40Speaker 4: that she feels guilty about leaving the children behind and
- 2:43Speaker 4: she's planning on reaching out to her sister to formally
- 2:46Speaker 4: adopt them. I told her, Heck no. I made it
- 2:50Speaker 4: clear very early on that I do not want to
- 2:52Speaker 4: raise those kids. She told me that she assumed I
- 2:55Speaker 4: would grow out of it and accept them. We argued
- 2:58Speaker 4: and have been arguing over and over for days now
- 3:01Speaker 4: about her decision. She has since reached out to her
- 3:03Speaker 4: sister and has started the process of adopting the children.
- 3:07Speaker 4: The oldest girl is pregnant.
- 3:09Speaker 5: Oof.
- 3:10Speaker 4: The middle child's a decent kid and the youngest one
- 3:12Speaker 4: only got out of prenatal ICU five months ago. I
- 3:16Speaker 4: am 22. She is 20.
- 3:18Speaker 5: Oh, this is a horrible situation to be in. Holy crap.
- 3:25Speaker 4: I mean, I think she's clearly making this from an
- 3:27Speaker 4: emotional place, which is, I mean, the most sensible thing
- 3:32Speaker 4: in the world. And I don't think either of you
- 3:36Speaker 4: are capable or equipped to raise these children in any way. Yeah, it.
- 3:43Speaker 1: Oh, this is hard.
- 3:45Speaker 4: Oh, this is really hard. I don't know how you
- 3:47Speaker 4: can get that through to your girlfriend or your wife because,
- 3:53Speaker 4: you know, it's coming from a very emotional place and
- 3:56Speaker 4: emotions are illogical, but you guys can't raise three kids
- 3:59Speaker 4: right now.
- 3:59Speaker 1: You're kids.
- 4:01Speaker 4: You are also kids.
- 4:03Speaker 5: That's, yeah, that's what I was thinking. Like, you guys
- 4:06Speaker 5: are 20, just started, like, freshly 20, and I just don't, like, that's,
- 4:12Speaker 5: three kids with one on the way. And it's just like,
- 4:18Speaker 5: as much as, you know, you want to help those kids,
- 4:21Speaker 5: you want them to grow up to be, you know,
- 4:23Speaker 5: good people and make good decisions and whatnot. The damage
- 4:26Speaker 5: is done. I mean, like I, I don't know. I
- 4:30Speaker 5: feel like that's a harsh thing to say. And I
- 4:32Speaker 5: don't like that. This has come to that, but I
- 4:35Speaker 5: just don't, I don't know what, like, cause there's also
- 4:39Speaker 5: foster foster system, but that also is not, that great.
- 4:43Speaker 5: It's just I don't really know what would be the
- 4:46Speaker 5: right decision.
- 4:46Speaker 4: Yeah, there is no good path forward. But I think
- 4:49Speaker 4: if you if your wife wants to help these kids,
- 4:53Speaker 4: I think the best way to do it isn't to
- 4:55Speaker 4: adopt them right now, but it's to build yourself up
- 4:58Speaker 4: so that you have the resources and ability to help
- 5:01Speaker 4: them later in life. Because I don't know what the
- 5:04Speaker 4: that the oldest kid is going to do being 13
- 5:06Speaker 4: or 14 and pregnant. But I don't know if she's
- 5:10Speaker 4: going to keep that baby. But if she does, then
- 5:12Speaker 4: it's like now you're raising four kids.
- 5:14Speaker 5: Yeah. And the one is what like just got out
- 5:17Speaker 5: of ICU. Yeah.
- 5:18Speaker 4: And one is a nine month old ICU baby.
- 5:21Speaker 5: That's just God. This is just it's absolutely horrific situation
- 5:26Speaker 5: to be in. I don't even know what I truthfully
- 5:29Speaker 5: wouldn't know what to do. Yeah.
- 5:30Speaker 4: There's there's no there's no good options here. I think
- 5:34Speaker 4: even if I wanted to adopt these kids, I would
- 5:36Speaker 4: still want to say no due to our age and
- 5:38Speaker 4: financial situation. She works at a makeup store. I work
- 5:41Speaker 4: at a grocery store, for F's sake. I haven't straight
- 5:44Speaker 4: up told her that I'm planning on leaving yet, but
- 5:46Speaker 4: I've already told my parents that if she doesn't stop,
- 5:48Speaker 4: then that is my plan. Am I the a-hole here?
- 5:52Speaker 4: And there is an update. I mean, no. You're a realist,
- 5:56Speaker 4: and you said it from the beginning. You're like, if
- 5:59Speaker 4: you adopt the kids, this isn't going to work. And
- 6:02Speaker 4: I don't know. I think, yeah, y'all need a council.
- 6:09Speaker 4: Y'all need mentors.
- 6:11Speaker 5: Is there not like an aunt or uncle maybe that
- 6:15Speaker 5: could help, you know, something? It's just, I don't know.
- 6:19Speaker 5: I'm trying to go with all options of just like
- 6:22Speaker 5: keeping it like in the family rather than like outsourcing
- 6:25Speaker 5: to other like strangers for help, you know? But I also,
- 6:29Speaker 5: you know, given the financial situation where you guys are
- 6:32Speaker 5: and you've been married six months and now you're going
- 6:34Speaker 5: to have four kids.
- 6:36Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 6:36Speaker 5: That are all different ages, all sorts of different problems with,
- 6:40Speaker 5: I mean, like, that's just too much. That is so
- 6:43Speaker 5: much to put on someone. And I understand that her
- 6:45Speaker 5: heart is in the right place. She's trying. She feels
- 6:48Speaker 5: bad for those kids. She wants to help out. I
- 6:50Speaker 5: commend her for that. But also, you have to listen
- 6:53Speaker 5: to your partner as well in this situation. So I
- 6:56Speaker 5: don't think that you're being the a-hole. I don't think
- 6:59Speaker 5: she's being the a-hole either, but I do think that
- 7:01Speaker 5: there is a communication issue that needs to be resolved
- 7:03Speaker 5: here to where you can come to maybe some sort
- 7:05Speaker 5: of compromise or some sort of understanding.
- 7:08Speaker 4: I think something needs to happen so that your wife
- 7:12Speaker 4: doesn't throw her whole life away for these kids while
- 7:15Speaker 4: she's not in a position to be able to raise them.
- 7:17Speaker 4: I mean, I know she would get money from adopting them.
- 7:22Speaker 5: But never enough.
- 7:24Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's a lot. That is a huge, huge undertaking.
- 7:30Speaker 4: It's one thing to.
- 7:31Speaker 5: Like maybe already have children and have gone through it
- 7:34Speaker 5: and have that experience. But you guys have no experience with,
- 7:38Speaker 5: you know, kids of your own. And to be thrown
- 7:41Speaker 5: into like a teen pregnancy and then another just eight
- 7:45Speaker 5: year old child who's doing pretty decent. And then one
- 7:48Speaker 5: that just came out of the ICU five months ago.
- 7:50Speaker 5: That is like. Anyone in this situation would be like,
- 7:54Speaker 5: I have no idea what to do. This is not
- 7:57Speaker 5: a normal situation by any means.
- 7:59Speaker 1: I think.
- 8:01Speaker 4: Somehow the best situation it looks like is just getting
- 8:04Speaker 4: CPS to take those kids out of that house. Truthfully, yeah.
- 8:09Speaker 4: It's crazy.
- 8:10Speaker 5: I mean, first things first, they need to get out
- 8:12Speaker 5: of that house because obviously that is not doing anything
- 8:16Speaker 5: any good for them at least.
- 8:18Speaker 4: And that has its own host of issues and pitfalls,
- 8:21Speaker 4: but it's better than them being there.
- 8:24Speaker 5: Yeah, and watching all of that and growing up on that,
- 8:26Speaker 5: it's just that, no, no, no, no, no.
- 8:29Speaker 1: Well, there's an update. So, it's been a couple of
- 8:31Speaker 1: weeks since my last post.
- 8:33Speaker 4: I got so many messages for an update that I
- 8:35Speaker 4: figured I may as well let everyone know what's happened.
- 8:37Speaker 4: I talked with my wife that night about my plans
- 8:40Speaker 4: and about what she was doing. A commenter pointed out
- 8:42Speaker 4: the irony of her cutting off her parents for determining
- 8:45Speaker 4: her life while she was doing the same to me.
- 8:48Speaker 4: I pointed this out to her and she became angry,
- 8:51Speaker 4: telling me that it wasn't the same thing. We argued
- 8:54Speaker 4: about this for a while before dropping it and addressing
- 8:57Speaker 4: other issues. We argued about two-ish hours and then decided
- 9:01Speaker 4: to drop it for the night and talk about it
- 9:03Speaker 4: again when we weren't so fired up. I could go
- 9:06Speaker 4: on and on about the conversations we had the next day,
- 9:09Speaker 4: but eventually we both mutually decided that it would be
- 9:11Speaker 4: best if we separated for the time being. At that point,
- 9:14Speaker 4: I was unable to get her to stop pursuing the
- 9:16Speaker 4: kids and I had made it clear at the beginning
- 9:18Speaker 4: of the relationship it wasn't going to work out. I
- 9:21Speaker 4: moved back in with my parents and we both have
- 9:24Speaker 4: been looking for someone to take over our apartment lease.
- 9:27Speaker 1: If this was the end of the story, I honestly
- 9:29Speaker 1: wouldn't have made an update.
- 9:31Speaker 4: On Thursday, though, she called me while I was at
- 9:34Speaker 4: work and left a voicemail that I couldn't comprehend other
- 9:37Speaker 4: than just crying noises. Instead of calling back, I went
- 9:41Speaker 4: to the apartment to talk to her. In addition to that,
- 9:44Speaker 4: she's taken... talk to her sister and parents and instead
- 9:52Speaker 4: of being happy for the kids they're actively guilting her
- 9:56Speaker 4: for not doing this sooner. In addition to that she's
- 9:59Speaker 4: taken the kids out a few times to try to
- 10:01Speaker 4: get to know them again and it's gone less than
- 10:05Speaker 4: stellar in her words. Apparently the oldest doesn't seem to
- 10:08Speaker 4: like her and refuses to even look at her. The
- 10:11Speaker 4: middle child is shy and doesn't really want to interact
- 10:14Speaker 4: and the youngest is impossible to deal with because she
- 10:17Speaker 4: is constantly crying. She's been over to her parents' house,
- 10:20Speaker 4: where her sister also lives. I don't think I mentioned
- 10:23Speaker 4: that in the original post. She's been over there every
- 10:26Speaker 4: day since we last saw each other. And she tells
- 10:29Speaker 4: me that every day she goes over there, she feels
- 10:31Speaker 4: worse and worse. She told me that she no longer
- 10:34Speaker 4: feels the strong urge to adopt the children like she
- 10:36Speaker 4: did before. Since that day, I have semi-moved back into
- 10:41Speaker 4: the apartment. I told her that my decision when it
- 10:44Speaker 4: comes to the children is unchanged. I don't want any
- 10:47Speaker 4: part of that mess despite feeling awful for the kids.
- 10:51Speaker 4: She agreed and said she never meant to force me
- 10:54Speaker 4: to live my life a certain way. She just feels
- 10:56Speaker 4: extremely guilty about the whole situation with them, which is
- 11:00Speaker 4: so fair. I mean, based on how her parents are
- 11:03Speaker 4: treating her, it's like she's been conditioned to feel responsible
- 11:06Speaker 4: for everyone and everything around her forever.
- 11:10Speaker 5: Yeah. I mean, I feel guilty too. And I'm not
- 11:13Speaker 5: even part of the situation. I feel so bad for
- 11:16Speaker 5: those kids. I mean, they have no future. And it's
- 11:21Speaker 5: so sad to just have to sit back and watch
- 11:24Speaker 5: that happen and do nothing.
- 11:25Speaker 4: But maybe that's for the best. They are in an
- 11:28Speaker 4: unwinnable situation.
- 11:29Speaker 5: Literally, there is no escape from that hole.
- 11:33Speaker 4: I talked to her about possibly getting CPS involved. And
- 11:38Speaker 4: she said that she didn't want to do that because
- 11:40Speaker 4: despite their upbringing... The kids love their mom and grandparents,
- 11:44Speaker 4: and she thinks it would do more harm than good.
- 11:47Speaker 1: I personally disagree.
- 11:49Speaker 4: And I do as well, especially if there's active substance
- 11:52Speaker 4: use disorder in the household and they're around, you know,
- 11:57Speaker 4: those kind of substances and behaviors. Definitely not good.
- 12:01Speaker 5: Like that's of course they love them. That's all they know,
- 12:04Speaker 5: you know. Right. they don't know anything else. So once
- 12:07Speaker 5: they figure out the real world and how that works
- 12:10Speaker 5: and how there are people better than this, they will
- 12:13Speaker 5: be grateful for it, you know?
- 12:15Speaker 4: Hopefully. Very few times am I like, CPS absolutely needs
- 12:20Speaker 4: to be involved because it is true. There are a
- 12:23Speaker 4: lot of times where it can do more harm than good.
- 12:25Speaker 4: It's definitely not always all good.
- 12:27Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 12:29Speaker 4: But they need to not be in that house because
- 12:32Speaker 4: it's not going to get better anyway.
- 12:33Speaker 5: Exactly.
- 12:33Speaker 4: They're going to get worse and worse and worse.
- 12:35Speaker 5: For sure. No one's changing.
- 12:36Speaker 4: The parents, the grandparents, if they're all in active substance use,
- 12:42Speaker 4: it's not going to get better.
- 12:43Speaker 5: They're done for. Like, that is it. No one just
- 12:46Speaker 5: comes out of that being great and awesome and having
- 12:50Speaker 5: a good view on life.
- 12:51Speaker 4: That just does not happen. So she thinks CPS would
- 12:54Speaker 4: do more harm than good. I personally disagree. But if
- 12:57Speaker 4: I wasn't willing to raise them, I feel like I
- 12:59Speaker 4: shouldn't push the issue. And that.
- 13:02Speaker 1: Is the end of that story.
- 13:04Speaker 5: Well, that was depressing. I mean, holy crap. I don't
- 13:08Speaker 5: even like God.
- 13:11Speaker 4: My heart's with the kids. We wish them well. Get
- 13:14Speaker 4: CPS on them, dude.
- 13:15Speaker 1: For real.
- 13:16Speaker 4: Those kids need to be out. And even if they
- 13:19Speaker 4: get separated, they just can't be in that. They can't
- 13:22Speaker 4: be there. They cannot be there. But that is the
- 13:25Speaker 4: end of that story.
- 13:27Speaker 5: My husband lives in luxury while I count every dollar.
- 13:31Speaker 5: But he calls me selfish.
- 13:33Speaker 1: Yeah, you count all those dollars. They should be his.
- 13:36Speaker 5: Hi, all. For reference, I am 29 female and my
- 13:40Speaker 5: husband is 30 male. We've been together since I was
- 13:42Speaker 5: 20 and got married when I was 26. When we
- 13:46Speaker 5: moved in together when I was 25, we were splitting
- 13:48Speaker 5: our rent evenly. I was making 65K and he was
- 13:52Speaker 5: making 80K. And we live in a large U.S.
- 13:54Speaker 6: City.
- 13:55Speaker 5: It didn't really make a huge difference in my budget
- 13:58Speaker 5: versus his to split rent 50-50 for $ 2, 600 a month rent. However,
- 14:05Speaker 5: things have changed. I got pregnant a few months after
- 14:08Speaker 5: we got married, which we were so happy about and wanted.
- 14:12Speaker 5: I didn't want to not work, but I wanted to
- 14:13Speaker 5: be home with our baby, so I found a full-time
- 14:16Speaker 5: remote job in my field of work. The downside is
- 14:19Speaker 5: I took a cut to my salary from $ 65K to $ 50K.
- 14:22Speaker 2: Oof.
- 14:24Speaker 5: We continued to split rent in our apartment. My husband,
- 14:27Speaker 5: between being 26 and 30, has received a number of
- 14:30Speaker 5: raises and has switched his job. He is now a
- 14:33Speaker 5: senior business analyst, making roughly $ 195K a year. Since we
- 14:39Speaker 5: were having a child, we were going to need a
- 14:41Speaker 5: bigger apartment. We found a three-bedroom for $ 4, 000K per month.
- 14:46Speaker 5: He still wanted to split rent evenly, despite my protest,
- 14:49Speaker 5: and despite me wanting to try to find a smaller
- 14:53Speaker 5: apartment for less. In the end, I sort of let
- 14:55Speaker 5: myself get walked over because he really is such a
- 14:58Speaker 5: smooth talker, and I do love him. By the way,
- 15:01Speaker 5: this comes from... What does this mean, though? And if
- 15:04Speaker 5: you want to submit your own stories, go to the
- 15:06Speaker 5: r slash ok story time subreddit. I'm Savannah.
- 15:08Speaker 1: I'm Dakota.
- 15:09Speaker 5: And we're here to give some good advice, goofily, but
- 15:11Speaker 5: we don't have all your answers. We're only going to
- 15:13Speaker 5: tell you what we would do, but let us know
- 15:14Speaker 5: what you would do down in the comments. As Opie says... Anyway,
- 15:19Speaker 5: flash forward two and a half years, our rent has
- 15:21Speaker 5: increased to $ 4, 400. My take-home pay monthly after taxes is
- 15:27Speaker 5: roughly $ 3, 600. I am paying $ 2. 2k monthly in rent. I
- 15:33Speaker 5: am also taking care of our baby and our home,
- 15:35Speaker 5: doing chores, and cooking daily. My husband works from 8
- 15:38Speaker 5: to 6, but typically doesn't get home until 7. I
- 15:41Speaker 5: am burnt out. I barely have enough money per month
- 15:44Speaker 5: to do things I enjoy. I feel like I am
- 15:46Speaker 5: financially struggling while my husband is living a life of luxury. Yes,
- 15:50Speaker 5: he does take me out on dates and on vacation,
- 15:52Speaker 5: but he doesn't seem to understand that this is not
- 15:54Speaker 5: enough for me. I spoke to him two days ago
- 15:57Speaker 5: very seriously, and when I asked about trying to split
- 16:00Speaker 5: rent based on our income and pay an equal percentage
- 16:03Speaker 5: of our income so that it is more fair than
- 16:05Speaker 5: fully equal, his reaction stunned me. He asked me why
- 16:10Speaker 5: having 1.6k extra a month wasn't enough for me. I
- 16:14Speaker 5: told him I'm not saving anything. He told me I
- 16:17Speaker 5: should spend less on extracurricular activities, which makes me laugh
- 16:20Speaker 5: because what extracurricular activities? All I do is work, cook, clean,
- 16:25Speaker 5: shop for the house, and raise our child. I told
- 16:27Speaker 5: him I am basically working two full jobs at once
- 16:30Speaker 5: and I need help. Then he asked me if I
- 16:32Speaker 5: am suggesting he pay me for being a mother- And
- 16:35Speaker 5: that stunned me. I really had no response to that.
- 16:39Speaker 4: This is why it's really important to like discuss financials
- 16:44Speaker 4: when you're going to marry somebody.
- 16:46Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 16:47Speaker 4: Because like, I don't know, this doesn't seem, it's like equal.
- 16:51Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, well, you have to pay that, but
- 16:53Speaker 4: it's not fair. It's not equitable.
- 16:55Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 16:56Speaker 4: Especially if he's making like almost 200K a year. It's like, well,
- 17:00Speaker 4: let's just find the solution that works instead of like, Oh,
- 17:04Speaker 4: you want me to pay for you to be a mom?
- 17:06Speaker 4: It's like, no, I just want to not feel like
- 17:09Speaker 4: I'm drowning trapped in a box.
- 17:13Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 17:13Speaker 5: Anyways, he told me that this is the lifestyle we
- 17:16Speaker 5: agreed when we moved in together way back when. However,
- 17:20Speaker 5: he doesn't seem to understand or rather does not want
- 17:22Speaker 5: to understand. Now he's mad with me because he thinks
- 17:26Speaker 5: I'm being selfish and has been acting cold to me
- 17:28Speaker 5: these past few days. I'm getting the itch to apologize
- 17:31Speaker 5: and take it back like I always do, but I
- 17:33Speaker 5: really feel I am right here. Am I the a-hole? Uh, no.
- 17:38Speaker 5: For just wanting, you know, support from your husband who makes, like,
- 17:43Speaker 5: over two times you do? I don't believe that... Like,
- 17:48Speaker 5: I just don't think that that is a bad thing
- 17:50Speaker 5: to ask.
- 17:51Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like... I think there does need to be,
- 17:55Speaker 4: there could be better communication on both sides. Cause I
- 17:58Speaker 4: think the way that you said he's living a life
- 18:00Speaker 4: of luxury, it's like, well, he's working 10 hours a
- 18:02Speaker 4: day as well. And not that you're not working harder, uh,
- 18:05Speaker 4: while also taking care of the house and raising the kids.
- 18:08Speaker 4: But it's like just getting to a place where you
- 18:10Speaker 4: guys can return to like, Hey, we got married. So
- 18:14Speaker 4: we're like a team. So why does it feel like
- 18:17Speaker 4: we're not a team in this way? Right. We got
- 18:21Speaker 4: to be on the same team. It's like he's acting
- 18:24Speaker 4: like you're already divorced and he's giving you like, you know,
- 18:28Speaker 4: alimony payments or child support. And it's like, no, no, no, no.
- 18:32Speaker 4: We live together. We have our lives together. We are
- 18:36Speaker 4: a unit.
- 18:37Speaker 5: We're a unit.
- 18:38Speaker 1: Come on. It's not like you're asking for unlimited fund money.
- 18:41Speaker 4: It's just like, just so I feel like I'm not
- 18:45Speaker 4: barely able to.
- 18:46Speaker 1: And I mean, to be honest, having, you know, $ 1, 600
- 18:49Speaker 1: every month to.
- 18:53Speaker 4: To put away or I don't know what are you
- 18:55Speaker 4: are you spending that on other bills or because that's
- 18:58Speaker 4: that's it that you can save a good amount of
- 19:00Speaker 4: money making that each month like anyway there's an edit.
- 19:05Speaker 5: Thank you all for all the responses I can honestly
- 19:08Speaker 5: say I did not expect to get this feedback I'm
- 19:10Speaker 5: honestly overwhelmed and cannot reply to all of you especially
- 19:13Speaker 5: when I am working but I wanted to update some
- 19:16Speaker 5: things here I love my husband with all my heart
- 19:19Speaker 5: and it is heartbreaking for me to read these comments
- 19:21Speaker 5: and realize that I am being taken advantage of. I
- 19:24Speaker 5: need to figure out the best way to approach this
- 19:25Speaker 5: issue and solve it before it gets too far. I
- 19:28Speaker 5: want to work this out and the fear of being
- 19:30Speaker 5: alone is haunting me. Yes, I did sign a prenup
- 19:33Speaker 5: that was overseen by his family attorney. My husband comes
- 19:37Speaker 5: from extreme wealth and I was young and stupid and
- 19:40Speaker 5: went with it.
- 19:41Speaker 4: Oh, that's that's tracking now. He was like, oh, so
- 19:46Speaker 4: you did just marry me for my money, huh?
- 19:49Speaker 1: Which, I mean, on some.
- 19:51Speaker 4: Level is also fair if he grew up like that.
- 19:55Speaker 4: It would make sense that he's so hyper fixated on
- 19:58Speaker 4: that because he's probably been told his entire life, like,
- 20:01Speaker 4: watch out for people taking advantage of you for your money.
- 20:05Speaker 5: Head over heels like my mother always said I was.
- 20:09Speaker 5: As for his family, we get along great and they
- 20:11Speaker 5: love me. It's very confusing because they are such incredibly
- 20:14Speaker 5: generous people and they are family. But they don't know
- 20:18Speaker 5: about our financial situation because my husband and I believe
- 20:20Speaker 5: that our marriage is private. And I would feel like
- 20:23Speaker 5: I was betraying him by telling them. I'm sorry I
- 20:26Speaker 5: cannot reply to all of you, but please know I
- 20:28Speaker 5: am reading all of the comments and making a plan
- 20:30Speaker 5: of approach with them. Edit number two. For those talking
- 20:33Speaker 5: about the dates and vacations bit that he pays for,
- 20:36Speaker 5: I have asked him numerous times to help lighten my
- 20:39Speaker 5: financial load instead of going on these trips and dates,
- 20:42Speaker 5: and he has refused. He said he can do what
- 20:44Speaker 5: he wants with his money, and if he wants to
- 20:46Speaker 5: take us on vacation, that is what he will pay for.
- 20:49Speaker 5: If I could afford vacation, I would pay. In fact,
- 20:53Speaker 5: when we're in a more even financial situation, unmarried, no kids...
- 20:58Speaker 5: I paid for almost all of our vacations and dates
- 21:00Speaker 5: because I love to treat people and I can't do
- 21:03Speaker 5: that anymore. Edit number three. I also do not have
- 21:07Speaker 5: bad spending habits. I worked my way out of my
- 21:10Speaker 5: student loan debt in two years after graduating. Dang, girl.
- 21:13Speaker 5: Good for you. I saved 60K by the time we
- 21:16Speaker 5: got married and I have that all in my retirement,
- 21:19Speaker 5: which I am thankful for because I can no longer
- 21:22Speaker 5: contribute to it. This has nothing to do with how
- 21:25Speaker 5: I spend. I'm actually pretty frugal when it comes to shopping,
- 21:28Speaker 5: especially since I prefer to keep things cheap for my budget.
- 21:31Speaker 5: And there's an update. Let's just get into it. Oh,
- 21:35Speaker 5: almost three years later.
- 21:36Speaker 4: Oh, boy.
- 21:37Speaker 1: A lot can change in three years.
- 21:41Speaker 5: Things were not good with me and my husband at
- 21:44Speaker 5: the time of this post. I want to preface this
- 21:47Speaker 5: by saying we are still together to this day, and
- 21:49Speaker 5: we've welcomed our new child to the world. This time
- 21:52Speaker 5: in a much healthier environment.
- 21:54Speaker 1: Good.
- 21:54Speaker 4: Oh my god.
- 21:55Speaker 1: Yay. I think they just got clear.
- 21:57Speaker 4: I think they communicated.
- 21:58Speaker 1: Oh my god.
- 22:00Speaker 5: The vid changed a lot for me along with the
- 22:02Speaker 5: intense virality of the last post. Neither my husband or
- 22:06Speaker 5: I got laid off or furloughed. And we were and
- 22:09Speaker 5: we are so thankful. But my husband moved to work
- 22:12Speaker 5: from home. That perspective shift changed a lot for him
- 22:14Speaker 5: when he saw what I had to deal with day
- 22:16Speaker 5: to day. Things I could never properly communicate about how
- 22:19Speaker 5: difficult it is to work while raising a child and
- 22:22Speaker 5: what I brought to the table that he could never see.
- 22:25Speaker 5: Despite his newfound appreciation for me, I still found myself
- 22:28Speaker 5: resenting him. It was in June that I finally proposed
- 22:31Speaker 5: that we go to couples counseling, after doing my own
- 22:34Speaker 5: virtual therapy session since March, from which I learned about
- 22:37Speaker 5: why I let people step over me based on my
- 22:39Speaker 5: childhood and past and how to overcome that. To my surprise...
- 22:43Speaker 5: My husband agreed, and so we've been in weekly counseling since,
- 22:48Speaker 5: even to this day. It helped him get to the
- 22:50Speaker 5: root of his fears and address why he has trouble
- 22:53Speaker 5: trusting me financially, which had less to do with me
- 22:56Speaker 5: and more to do with what he was brought up
- 22:59Speaker 5: believing and had been instilled with. After coming to the
- 23:02Speaker 5: point of telling him I wouldn't want to continue building
- 23:05Speaker 5: a family or a life with him where he watched
- 23:07Speaker 5: me struggle from luxury with the help of our amazing
- 23:10Speaker 5: counselor who guided us, My husband was willing to adjust
- 23:13Speaker 5: our lifestyle to be more equal. I mean, great. I'm
- 23:18Speaker 5: glad this is working out. I was worried there for
- 23:20Speaker 5: a second, but now it's working.
- 23:23Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean, clear communication can save the day more
- 23:30Speaker 4: often than not.
- 23:31Speaker 5: Something good came out of the vid this time. It's great.
- 23:34Speaker 4: You guys learned how to use your words with each other.
- 23:37Speaker 5: I'm not saying everything was or is magically perfect. I
- 23:40Speaker 5: know people wanted an update where I left my evil
- 23:43Speaker 5: husband and took my baby to start a new life.
- 23:46Speaker 5: But I did marry this man for a reason. I
- 23:48Speaker 5: saw the good. And past the struggle we've had to overcome,
- 23:52Speaker 5: he's become the man I knew I'd marry. We now
- 23:55Speaker 5: have a joint bank account as well as our own
- 23:58Speaker 5: on the side. We each put two-thirds of our income
- 24:01Speaker 5: into the shared account and get to keep one-third for ourselves.
- 24:05Speaker 5: I am in a new job now and making much
- 24:08Speaker 5: more money than the original post.
- 24:09Speaker 4: Not that this.
- 24:10Speaker 5: Affects the relationship, but so people know my one-third is
- 24:13Speaker 5: enough for me to enjoy. It's still a road to recovery,
- 24:16Speaker 5: but we have more trust between us and are no
- 24:19Speaker 5: longer living a 50-50 lifestyle. That is it. Well, good
- 24:24Speaker 5: for you, girl. I'm glad that, you know, I'm glad
- 24:27Speaker 5: he was open to the counseling and everything, and I
- 24:29Speaker 5: think it really... helped you guys grow as a couple
- 24:32Speaker 5: and communicate better. And also now you have this child
- 24:35Speaker 5: to worry about together too. So I think this was
- 24:38Speaker 5: a happy ending overall. And you're still working on it,
- 24:40Speaker 5: which is great. You didn't just stop because things got better.
- 24:44Speaker 5: You're still continuing to grow and work together and educate yourselves.
- 24:50Speaker 4: It always takes work, right?
- 24:53Speaker 5: Right. But that's the end of that story. And we
- 24:56Speaker 5: got another one coming right up.
- 24:58Speaker 4: My friend showed me spicy photos of my husband and
- 25:02Speaker 4: I'd never seen them.
- 25:03Speaker 5: Well, why she have them?
- 25:06Speaker 4: So as you could guess, I'm not exactly a veteran
- 25:08Speaker 4: user of this app. I did not even have an
- 25:10Speaker 4: account and just checked it for news from time to time.
- 25:13Speaker 4: My friend uses it very frequently and both told and
- 25:17Speaker 4: showed me that there are some not safe for work
- 25:19Speaker 4: pages and all that. But I didn't care until recently.
- 25:24Speaker 4: It so happens sometimes that the world is a very
- 25:27Speaker 4: small place. especially to be doing stupid crap. This past week,
- 25:32Speaker 4: my friend suddenly came running to my office at work
- 25:36Speaker 4: and showed me a unclothed photo of my husband that
- 25:41Speaker 4: I have never seen before. I went to what the
- 25:45Speaker 4: F is going on right away, to which she promptly
- 25:48Speaker 4: showed me the whole post and then the whole profile.
- 25:52Speaker 4: with a bunch of other photos that I have also
- 25:55Speaker 4: never seen before. The comments made it even better. Him
- 25:59Speaker 4: saying he's single for eternity, and getting bored of the
- 26:03Speaker 4: lack of spicy sleep, among other things. And by the way,
- 26:07Speaker 4: this comes from user CodOfMischief. If you want to submit
- 26:09Speaker 4: your own stories, go to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.
- 26:13Speaker 4: I'm Dakota.
- 26:13Speaker 5: And I'm Savannah.
- 26:14Speaker 1: And we are here to.
- 26:15Speaker 4: Read this story to you and give our good advice goofily,
- 26:18Speaker 4: but we don't always know.
- 26:20Speaker 5: We think.
- 26:22Speaker 4: So let us know what you think in the comments.
- 26:24Speaker 4: And OP says, We have never had any issues. No cheating,
- 26:28Speaker 4: no trust issues. And I didn't even know he used Reddit.
- 26:32Speaker 4: I haven't confronted him about it yet. My plan was
- 26:35Speaker 4: to connect with him on here so he would know
- 26:37Speaker 4: I know or even do it secretly to see what
- 26:40Speaker 4: he actually does or why he would do this. And
- 26:44Speaker 4: there is an update.
- 26:45Speaker 1: Girl, don't be secret. Just confront your husband.
- 26:47Speaker 5: This literally just happened to my friend. Crazy.
- 26:50Speaker 1: What did they do?
- 26:51Speaker 5: Ignored it.
- 26:52Speaker 2: Wow.
- 26:53Speaker 4: Well, don't do that.
- 26:54Speaker 5: It's her first relationship, and, you know, she'll learn. She'll learn.
- 26:59Speaker 5: She knows that it's not right. She'll learn.
- 27:01Speaker 4: She'll get there.
- 27:03Speaker 1: Update.
- 27:05Speaker 4: I reached out to him first from this account, but
- 27:08Speaker 4: since a lot of you advised me to, I deleted
- 27:10Speaker 4: the message before he could read it, blocked him on
- 27:12Speaker 4: this account, and created another one to message him again.
- 27:16Speaker 4: He went out with his friends today, and about an
- 27:18Speaker 4: hour after he left, he responded to me. I tried
- 27:22Speaker 4: acting somewhat like the comments I read under some of
- 27:25Speaker 4: his posts would suggest me to, and we communicated for
- 27:29Speaker 4: a few hours before he told me that he'll tend
- 27:31Speaker 4: to his friends not to be too antisocial on the
- 27:35Speaker 4: phone around them. During the convo, he straight up sent
- 27:38Speaker 4: me a pic of his face in the DMs and
- 27:40Speaker 4: wanted to see mine, so I told him I'd rather
- 27:43Speaker 4: keep a bit anonymous and that I can send him
- 27:45Speaker 4: something else, to which he agreed immediately.
- 27:48Speaker 1: Very happily.
- 27:49Speaker 4: Okay, so this guy is clearly, this is cheating now.
- 27:53Speaker 4: This is full-blown cheating.
- 27:54Speaker 5: Yep.
- 27:55Speaker 4: Not just some kind of like side project, you know?
- 27:59Speaker 5: No, no, this is complete. He's doing it out of
- 28:02Speaker 5: probably boredom.
- 28:04Speaker 4: Yeah. I scoured the internet for some spicy pics of
- 28:07Speaker 4: other women and sent him a random pic of a
- 28:10Speaker 4: girl's butt in pantaloons.
- 28:13Speaker 1: In her cottons, in her panties, in her cottons.
- 28:16Speaker 4: In a few moments, I got a pic of his
- 28:20Speaker 4: member from the restrooms with some creepy sweet talk. I
- 28:24Speaker 4: complimented him back and asked if he ever met or
- 28:27Speaker 4: wanted to meet someone from Reddit, to which he went
- 28:29Speaker 4: silent and then replied that he's going to go off
- 28:32Speaker 4: for the moment.
- 28:33Speaker 1: As mentioned, this.
- 28:35Speaker 4: Leaves me exactly nowhere or in the same place as yesterday,
- 28:38Speaker 4: which not really. I mean, it very clearly tells you
- 28:41Speaker 4: exactly what his intentions are. or what he would do.
- 28:44Speaker 4: He's sending explicit messages to other women on Reddit. That's,
- 28:49Speaker 4: you've gained information.
- 28:51Speaker 5: Yeah, that is cheating in my book.
- 28:54Speaker 4: If he replies with a yes to meet up, it's
- 28:56Speaker 4: a done deal, and I'm coming clean with him. I
- 28:59Speaker 4: would also like to thank everyone that commented or reached
- 29:01Speaker 4: out directly with advice, or just some words of either
- 29:04Speaker 4: hope or hate towards him. You kept me company through
- 29:07Speaker 4: the sleepless nights, and I'll keep you posted, and we
- 29:10Speaker 4: have another update. But again, girl, you You've got enough
- 29:14Speaker 4: to justify leaving.
- 29:16Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know why you're, like, entertaining this now.
- 29:19Speaker 5: I think you can just be like, oh, hey, by
- 29:21Speaker 5: the way, show the messages. I'm that girl, and we're done. Yeah.
- 29:26Speaker 4: And there's just, you know, there's stages, right? You're a
- 29:30Speaker 4: bit in the denial stage. But you'll get there.
- 29:34Speaker 1: So, update two.
- 29:35Speaker 4: He responded to my question about whether he ever met
- 29:39Speaker 4: someone from Reddit. or if he would like to with
- 29:41Speaker 4: a no to meeting anyone before but with a yes
- 29:45Speaker 4: to it being possible i'm half glad that he maybe
- 29:49Speaker 4: hasn't cheated on me but also disgusted by the fact
- 29:52Speaker 4: that he clearly would or i don't know no you
- 29:55Speaker 4: know he would It's probably time to stop playing games
- 29:58Speaker 4: and to face the issue head on. I just don't
- 30:01Speaker 4: know if I can. I feel torn apart, angry, but
- 30:05Speaker 4: reluctant to act. Disgusted, but ultimately passive. And there's a
- 30:09Speaker 4: third update.
- 30:10Speaker 1: Girl, do it.
- 30:11Speaker 4: It's going to be hard and uncomfortable and it's going
- 30:13Speaker 4: to suck, but just do it.
- 30:14Speaker 5: Yeah, wake up. Because guess what? If you do nothing
- 30:17Speaker 5: about it, it's just going to continue to happen. And
- 30:19Speaker 5: if you call him out, but don't leave him, It's
- 30:23Speaker 5: going to continue to happen.
- 30:24Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 30:24Speaker 5: The only thing you can do in this situation to
- 30:27Speaker 5: help yourself and maybe even help him is to leave.
- 30:31Speaker 5: Get out of that. Why would you want to be
- 30:33Speaker 5: in that? Don't waste your time.
- 30:35Speaker 1: GTFO.
- 30:37Speaker 4: Update three. Hello, everyone. It's me again.
- 30:40Speaker 1: My situation has, let's say, calmed down.
- 30:44Speaker 4: Not really, but my husband left and hasn't tried communicating
- 30:48Speaker 4: with me yet.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Neither did I try to reach out.
- 30:51Speaker 4: I've been coping pretty well, half so probably thanks to
- 30:54Speaker 4: you people who reached out and accommodated your time with
- 30:58Speaker 4: a conversation with me. What you might not know is
- 31:01Speaker 4: that I am professionally retired at my 29 years of age.
- 31:05Speaker 4: I've got a considerable amount of generational wealth after my parents, grandparents,
- 31:10Speaker 4: and from my old business, which will definitely last me
- 31:15Speaker 4: for a lifetime or two. That being said, it's kind
- 31:17Speaker 4: of a bummer being unemployed and spending all your time
- 31:20Speaker 4: home or out and about, so I joined that friend
- 31:23Speaker 4: as a part-time help at a consulting company where she worked.
- 31:27Speaker 4: I've been there for about a year, put up my
- 31:29Speaker 4: notice today after all that happened. The boss directly offered
- 31:33Speaker 4: to let me go right away, and so I am
- 31:36Speaker 4: free again. I'm glad that it's over. You know, just
- 31:40Speaker 4: side note, one thing I will not ever understand is
- 31:43Speaker 4: having generational wealth and not knowing how to just chill. Like,
- 31:48Speaker 4: so it's pretty sad not having a job and just
- 31:51Speaker 4: being able to do whatever I want.
- 31:53Speaker 1: So I got a part-time job. It's like, why?
- 31:56Speaker 5: Yeah, if I never had a work, you will never
- 31:59Speaker 5: see me working. I would be painting. I would be going.
- 32:03Speaker 5: I would travel.
- 32:04Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 32:04Speaker 5: I would have my friends travel with me. I mean,
- 32:08Speaker 5: I would be like, I've been doing everything that I've
- 32:10Speaker 5: been wanting to do.
- 32:11Speaker 1: Your job is just to go outside.
- 32:13Speaker 2: Right.
- 32:14Speaker 5: Touch grass.
- 32:14Speaker 4: Go outside and be wherever you want. While leaving, I
- 32:20Speaker 4: was hesitant about bringing up our romantic situation because I
- 32:24Speaker 4: didn't think that anyone would care. But the boss started
- 32:26Speaker 4: asking and consoling me, and I decided to bring it up.
- 32:30Speaker 4: Judging by her reaction, the situation probably resonated with her
- 32:34Speaker 4: for reasons fully unknown to me. She didn't mention that
- 32:38Speaker 4: she would act anyhow at that time. Our mutual friend
- 32:42Speaker 4: called me this evening to tell me what a horrible
- 32:44Speaker 4: person I am and that she got her two month
- 32:47Speaker 4: notice handed to her. I didn't forget to start bringing
- 32:50Speaker 4: up some hurtful things, but I dropped the call when
- 32:54Speaker 4: she started doing that. Safe to say this is the
- 32:56Speaker 4: first thing I'm getting off my chest with a smile
- 32:59Speaker 4: on my face. Karma exists and it's paid in full. Wait,
- 33:03Speaker 4: so was that the friend that showed you your husband's posts?
- 33:07Speaker 4: Hold on, I'm going to.
- 33:08Speaker 5: Wait, that would make sense, because it's like showing her
- 33:12Speaker 5: in a workplace or something, and then the friend was like, what? Like,
- 33:16Speaker 5: you're a horrible person.
- 33:17Speaker 4: Well, yeah, why your friend didn't need to get fired?
- 33:20Speaker 4: What's going on? I'm going to go look at comments
- 33:23Speaker 4: really quick, just to make sure we didn't miss anything crucial.
- 33:26Speaker 1: Okay, so that was confusing.
- 33:27Speaker 4: I just looked at the comments, and it turned out
- 33:31Speaker 4: that her friend that got her the job and showed
- 33:33Speaker 4: her the pictures of her husband... was cheating with her
- 33:37Speaker 4: husband and she was showing her the pictures to get
- 33:42Speaker 4: back at him for stopping the affair.
- 33:45Speaker 7: Oh yes wow okay so there's layers yes and then
- 33:51Speaker 7: she got fired for showing those pictures at work because
- 33:56Speaker 7: you couldn't fire her just for having an affair with
- 34:00Speaker 7: her husband but you can fire for like hey you're showing.
- 34:02Speaker 4: Us this explicit stuff at work yeah so Mystery solved. Dang.
- 34:07Speaker 1: But that is the end of that story.
- 34:09Speaker 3: Hey, this is Riley, the new Californian here. We're going
- 34:12Speaker 3: to get back to these stories, but here's three minutes
- 34:14Speaker 3: of ads from our sponsors.
- 34:16Speaker 5: My wife is hiding her phone from me after 25
- 34:19Speaker 5: years of marriage.
- 34:21Speaker 1: Well, that's a bad time to start.
- 34:23Speaker 5: My wife, 46 female, and I, 46 male, have been
- 34:27Speaker 5: married for 25 years. We have three amazing kids who
- 34:31Speaker 5: are all grown and out of the house now. So
- 34:34Speaker 5: it's just the two of us. The problem is, it
- 34:37Speaker 5: doesn't really feel like we're a couple anymore. I still
- 34:40Speaker 5: love this woman with everything I have. If anything, I
- 34:43Speaker 5: feel like I've been trying harder over the last few
- 34:45Speaker 5: years because I don't want us to drift apart. Financially,
- 34:49Speaker 5: we've built a very comfortable life together. I'm fortunate enough
- 34:52Speaker 5: to earn well into the six figures most years, and
- 34:56Speaker 5: in really good years, I've crossed into seven figures.
- 34:59Speaker 4: Oh.
- 35:00Speaker 1: Wow.
- 35:02Speaker 5: We got a heavy hitter over here.
- 35:04Speaker 1: Moneybag City.
- 35:07Speaker 5: I'm not saying that to brag or imply money equals love,
- 35:10Speaker 5: because it absolutely doesn't. I only mention it because I
- 35:13Speaker 5: work hard to make sure she never has to worry
- 35:16Speaker 5: about money. If she wants to take a trip with friends,
- 35:18Speaker 5: she goes. If she wants to buy something, she buys it.
- 35:22Speaker 5: I genuinely enjoy giving her the life she's always wanted. Honestly,
- 35:26Speaker 5: I don't ask for much in return. I just want
- 35:29Speaker 5: to feel like she still loves me. By the way,
- 35:32Speaker 5: this comes from RevealSafe4293, and if you want to submit
- 35:36Speaker 5: your own stories, go to the r slash okay story
- 35:38Speaker 5: time subreddit where this was submitted. I'm Savannah.
- 35:42Speaker 4: I'm Dakota.
- 35:43Speaker 5: And we are here to give some good advice, Goofly,
- 35:46Speaker 5: but we don't have all your answers. We don't tell
- 35:47Speaker 5: you what we would do, but let us know what
- 35:48Speaker 5: you would do down in the comments. As OP says,
- 35:53Speaker 5: over the last couple of years, affection has almost completely disappeared.
- 35:57Speaker 5: We barely hug, we barely kiss, and our spicy sleep
- 36:01Speaker 5: life has become almost non-existent. In all of 2025, we
- 36:05Speaker 5: had spicy sleep twice. Ooh, that's horrible. I would hate that.
- 36:12Speaker 5: We just celebrated our 25th wedding anniversary, and to me,
- 36:15Speaker 5: it was a huge milestone. To her, it felt like
- 36:19Speaker 5: just another Tuesday. No affection, no intimacy, no real excitement.
- 36:24Speaker 5: That hurt more than I can explain. Dang, she's out
- 36:27Speaker 5: of it. Sorry to say, but she's done.
- 36:31Speaker 4: I think when you can sense someone's so checked out.
- 36:35Speaker 4: People who have been married for a long time, which
- 36:39Speaker 4: 25 years is a long time, they talk about there's
- 36:43Speaker 4: moments where you're synced up and then there's moments where
- 36:46Speaker 4: you guys will drift apart and you guys come back
- 36:49Speaker 4: to that center. I feel like when you really feel
- 36:53Speaker 4: so clearly that they're off... you just got to put
- 36:57Speaker 4: it out in the open and it's uncomfortable for sure.
- 37:01Speaker 4: It's confronting something like that is always uncomfortable, but you
- 37:04Speaker 4: just got to let her know like, Hey, like I can,
- 37:06Speaker 4: I really feel like maybe you're kind of checked out
- 37:10Speaker 4: of our marriage, of our relationship.
- 37:13Speaker 5: Yeah. If there's love still there, you will find a
- 37:16Speaker 5: way to make it work. If the love has been
- 37:19Speaker 5: dissipated or whatever, then, you know, you go from there.
- 37:24Speaker 5: The thing that's really eating at me though is her phone.
- 37:28Speaker 5: She's constantly texting someone. She keeps the screen turned away
- 37:32Speaker 5: from me, takes it everywhere, and if I walk into
- 37:34Speaker 5: the room, she'll sometimes stop whatever she's doing. I don't
- 37:37Speaker 5: know who she's talking to. I have absolutely no proof
- 37:41Speaker 5: if it's another man, but she clearly doesn't want me
- 37:43Speaker 5: to know who it is.
- 37:44Speaker 4: Well, I don't think it's her parents.
- 37:47Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 37:47Speaker 4: Yeah, that's... Well, it also makes a lot of sense
- 37:50Speaker 4: why you'd be hesitant to bring this up because that
- 37:52Speaker 4: is a very huge can of worms. And it's so obvious.
- 37:56Speaker 4: I don't even know why people do it. If you
- 37:59Speaker 4: start acting that way with your phone, there's only two
- 38:02Speaker 4: things it could be.
- 38:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:04Speaker 1: And one of them is you're cheating on me.
- 38:06Speaker 5: And the other one is.
- 38:08Speaker 1: Surprise birthday party.
- 38:10Speaker 5: Then there have been a few moments that have really
- 38:13Speaker 5: messed with my head. I've come home unexpectedly several times.
- 38:17Speaker 5: On a couple of occasions, she came out of our
- 38:19Speaker 5: bedroom looking disheveled, then immediately became unusually affectionate towards me,
- 38:24Speaker 5: almost like she was trying to distract me. Another couple
- 38:27Speaker 5: of times, after she'd stepped into the kitchen or laundry room,
- 38:30Speaker 5: I walked into our bedroom and found a vibrator under
- 38:33Speaker 5: her pillow. Maybe there's a perfectly innocent explanation... And honestly,
- 38:38Speaker 5: I wouldn't judge her for that, but my mind keeps
- 38:41Speaker 5: filling in the blanks because our intimacy is basically non-existent
- 38:44Speaker 5: and she's so secretive with her phone. I can't shake
- 38:47Speaker 5: this awful feeling in the pit of my stomach that
- 38:49Speaker 5: there's someone else. Maybe it's emotional. Maybe it's online. Maybe
- 38:55Speaker 5: it's nothing at all. I also know that gut feelings
- 38:59Speaker 5: aren't evidence. They're not evidence per se, but... They can
- 39:05Speaker 5: help you find evidence.
- 39:06Speaker 4: I think, like, behavior used in context can be used
- 39:11Speaker 4: as evidence in court.
- 39:12Speaker 1: So, you've got evidence.
- 39:14Speaker 5: Yeah. There's... Yeah. I've never gone through her phone. I've
- 39:19Speaker 5: never hired a PI. I've never confronted her because I
- 39:22Speaker 5: don't want to accuse my wife of cheating if I'm
- 39:24Speaker 5: completely wrong. At the same time, I don't know how
- 39:26Speaker 5: much longer I can keep pretending everything is fine while
- 39:29Speaker 5: feeling this disconnected and suspicious. So I'm asking strangers because
- 39:33Speaker 5: I honestly don't know what the right move is. Do
- 39:36Speaker 5: I tell her exactly how I'm feeling and risk sounding paranoid?
- 39:40Speaker 5: Do I ask directly if there's someone else? Do I
- 39:42Speaker 5: suggest marriage counseling before making any accusations? Or am I
- 39:47Speaker 5: reading too much into a marriage that's simply grown distance
- 39:49Speaker 5: after 25 years? I'd really appreciate advice from people who've
- 39:53Speaker 5: either been in my shoes or can give me an
- 39:55Speaker 5: outside perspective. There's an update. Yeah, I mean, truthfully, all
- 40:01Speaker 5: the signs point to she's cheating. Like, I don't know
- 40:05Speaker 5: what else it could possibly be. And the fact that
- 40:07Speaker 5: she's not showing intimacy towards you and just going and
- 40:10Speaker 5: doing it quietly. Yeah.
- 40:12Speaker 4: I mean, there is something going on there. We have
- 40:14Speaker 4: read stories where it's like people will do this with
- 40:16Speaker 4: their phone and then it turns out to just be
- 40:18Speaker 4: like an embarrassing game or something.
- 40:20Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 40:21Speaker 4: And like, I think what you need to do is
- 40:25Speaker 4: steal yourself for the possibility that she is cheating, but
- 40:31Speaker 4: don't approach it from that angle and instead approach it
- 40:34Speaker 4: from like a place of like, hey, like, how do
- 40:36Speaker 4: you feel about us? Like, don't make it a you
- 40:39Speaker 4: versus her thing.
- 40:41Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 40:41Speaker 4: Make it like a how are we doing, right?
- 40:44Speaker 5: I would say approach it with more curiosity rather than judgment.
- 40:49Speaker 5: Being like, hey, I've noticed you've been on your phone
- 40:51Speaker 5: a lot. You know, what are you doing?
- 40:53Speaker 4: But, like, you know, clearly it's been years. Yeah. That
- 40:56Speaker 4: the relationship has been deteriorating. And, like, when you don't
- 41:00Speaker 4: talk about this stuff for that long, like, it really
- 41:02Speaker 4: builds up a debt of, like, discomfort.
- 41:05Speaker 6: But.
- 41:06Speaker 4: You're not in the wrong for just telling your wife
- 41:11Speaker 4: what you're thinking and how you're feeling. Yeah.
- 41:14Speaker 5: Update. So we had a talk last night. Things are
- 41:17Speaker 5: way more clear now and we are okay. More than okay, honestly. Oh,
- 41:21Speaker 5: there we go.
- 41:22Speaker 1: Okay, that's hopeful.
- 41:24Speaker 5: Phone issue. I walked in and as most nights she's
- 41:28Speaker 5: on her phone typing away, I sat down in the
- 41:30Speaker 5: study next to her and asked if I can see
- 41:32Speaker 5: what she's doing on her phone. Without hesitation, she hands
- 41:35Speaker 5: it to me. She's writing. That's the phone time issue.
- 41:40Speaker 5: She shows me her notes app and she has note
- 41:43Speaker 5: after note of stories she has been writing. She says
- 41:46Speaker 5: it helps her get her feelings out and that it's
- 41:48Speaker 5: a creative outlet for her since she is home alone
- 41:51Speaker 5: most days. I explained to her how things have looked
- 41:53Speaker 5: from my point of view over the last 18 months
- 41:56Speaker 5: or so and how I felt and she instantly started
- 41:59Speaker 5: crying because I felt alone. I felt she had checked
- 42:02Speaker 5: out and I thought we were in trouble. She reassured
- 42:05Speaker 5: me that she's never once thought about leaving me and
- 42:07Speaker 5: that I couldn't be a better husband or partner and
- 42:10Speaker 5: she can't imagine a life without me. And before the
- 42:12Speaker 5: negative people chime in, yes, she showed me everything on
- 42:16Speaker 5: her phone and there were no signs of anything that
- 42:19Speaker 5: could be considered cheating.
- 42:20Speaker 1: Oh my God.
- 42:21Speaker 4: So she literally, what she was writing in her phone
- 42:24Speaker 4: was the exact thing you guys needed to be doing,
- 42:27Speaker 4: which was getting your feelings out in the open and
- 42:31Speaker 4: But she's just processing her feelings, writing stories.
- 42:35Speaker 1: Oh, what a relief.
- 42:38Speaker 5: I thought it was going to go sideways there for
- 42:39Speaker 5: a second. On to the lack of intimacy. She says
- 42:43Speaker 5: for the last few years, she's felt so unattractive that
- 42:47Speaker 5: she doesn't feel spicy anymore and doesn't have much of
- 42:51Speaker 5: a spicy sleep drive. I asked her about the vibrator
- 42:54Speaker 5: and she was trying to get her libido back and
- 42:56Speaker 5: thought it might help. We ended up having mind-blowing intimacy
- 43:00Speaker 5: after our talk. How nice.
- 43:04Speaker 4: I don't think I've heard it phrased that way.
- 43:06Speaker 5: Mind-blowing intimacy.
- 43:09Speaker 1: Intimacy to blow your mind.
- 43:11Speaker 5: Maximum overdrive intimacy. She will be making an appointment with
- 43:18Speaker 5: her primary care physician to discuss what she is going through.
- 43:21Speaker 5: I'm glad it wasn't cheating. Yes. But For a second there,
- 43:27Speaker 5: all signs did point to that.
- 43:29Speaker 4: Yes.
- 43:29Speaker 5: So I'm glad it turned out everything's okay and you
- 43:32Speaker 5: guys just don't really communicate that well. Yeah.
- 43:35Speaker 4: Everything looks like cheating when you read stories about how
- 43:38Speaker 4: everyone's cheating.
- 43:39Speaker 5: It's true.
- 43:41Speaker 4: But yeah, I think that what you said is exactly
- 43:46Speaker 4: what needed to be done, which was approach with curiosity
- 43:50Speaker 4: over judgment or thinking that you know exactly what it is.
- 43:55Speaker 5: That was my affirmation this morning. What I wanted to
- 43:58Speaker 5: focus on was curiosity.
- 43:59Speaker 4: Approaching with curiosity.
- 44:01Speaker 5: And I'm glad that I could put it into this podcast.
- 44:04Speaker 5: Thank you, myself. Conclusion. We both agreed to work on
- 44:09Speaker 5: our communication and attend couples therapy weekly. I also decided
- 44:13Speaker 5: it was time for me to slow down. I will
- 44:15Speaker 5: begin exploring a sale of my business in semi-retiring. I've
- 44:20Speaker 5: been incredibly smart with investments and have more than enough
- 44:23Speaker 5: to retire even before I sell the business. It's time
- 44:26Speaker 5: for me to enjoy the rest of my life with
- 44:28Speaker 5: the woman I love. Time to go on trips with
- 44:30Speaker 5: the family. Time to live like every day is my last.
- 44:34Speaker 4: Ugh.
- 44:35Speaker 5: Dang.
- 44:35Speaker 1: Beautiful!
- 44:36Speaker 5: Wow, very spiritual towards the end. I kind of like that.
- 44:39Speaker 1: What a beautiful baby story.
- 44:41Speaker 5: Ugh, and now you're just going to live the rest
- 44:43Speaker 5: of your days out doing what you love.
- 44:46Speaker 4: Yes.
- 44:47Speaker 5: Banging your wife.
- 44:48Speaker 4: Oh, oh God.
- 44:50Speaker 5: Bang, bang. Am I right?
- 44:52Speaker 4: Intimacy in your wife.
- 44:54Speaker 5: Maximum overdrive intimacy. But that's the end of that story.
- 45:00Speaker 2: My father slept through my daughter's first school play, and
- 45:03Speaker 2: it ruined her big day.
- 45:04Speaker 5: He's just a tired little guy.
- 45:06Speaker 2: My 35 female father, 68 male, moved to a different
- 45:10Speaker 2: country eight years ago. He tries to visit whenever he can,
- 45:12Speaker 2: and I try to help him have as much of
- 45:14Speaker 2: a relationship with my children, nine male, five female, and
- 45:17Speaker 2: a baby girl. Whenever he visits, however, he tends to
- 45:21Speaker 2: act a bit entitled. He either sleeps or hangs out
- 45:24Speaker 2: with his old friends in the mornings and afternoons, doesn't
- 45:27Speaker 2: help me with anything I ask him to, and then
- 45:29Speaker 2: gets annoyed when he wants to do something at 9pm
- 45:31Speaker 2: and the kids are too tired. Excuses are always that
- 45:34Speaker 2: he's exhausted from traveling and deserves to get some rest
- 45:37Speaker 2: and spend time with friends he never gets to see anymore.
- 45:40Speaker 2: My kids are always excited when my dad visits, but
- 45:42Speaker 2: at this point, they see him more when he's FaceTiming
- 45:44Speaker 2: us from a different hemisphere than when he's staying in
- 45:47Speaker 2: our own guest room. Anyway, he's visiting us now to
- 45:49Speaker 2: meet my youngest daughter, who was born in September. He
- 45:52Speaker 2: got here two weeks ago and will fly back home
- 45:54Speaker 2: in a few days. I've been trying to get him
- 45:55Speaker 2: to spend more time with my kids this time around,
- 45:57Speaker 2: but he still goes out a lot. By the way,
- 46:00Speaker 2: this comes from user SchoolPlayThrowaway. If you want to submit
- 46:02Speaker 2: your own stories, go to the r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.
- 46:05Speaker 1: I'm Keon.
- 46:06Speaker 5: I'm Savannah.
- 46:07Speaker 1: I'm Riley.
- 46:07Speaker 2: And us three are going to give good advice goofily.
- 46:10Speaker 2: We don't know everything, guys.
- 46:11Speaker 1: Look at us. Look at Savannah.
- 46:12Speaker 3: See?
- 46:13Speaker 2: So put what you know in the comments down below.
- 46:15Speaker 2: My oldest daughter had her first ever school play on Saturday.
- 46:17Speaker 2: She was really excited about it and invited my father.
- 46:20Speaker 2: He promised her he'd come. The day before the play,
- 46:22Speaker 2: my father went out with his friends and didn't come
- 46:24Speaker 2: back until 3 a.m. The play started at 11 a.m.,
- 46:27Speaker 2: and we had to get there 30 minutes earlier. In total,
- 46:30Speaker 2: he must have gotten about six hours of sleep. When we,
- 46:33Speaker 2: my dad, my husband, my son, and myself got there,
- 46:36Speaker 2: we sat at one of the first rows.
- 46:38Speaker 1: My daughter.
- 46:38Speaker 2: had asked us to the play was 40 minutes long
- 46:40Speaker 2: my father fell asleep less than 15 minutes in i
- 46:43Speaker 2: woke him up but he went back to sleep he
- 46:45Speaker 2: snores loudly when he sleeps so i kept waking him
- 46:48Speaker 2: up whenever he slept near the end of the play
- 46:50Speaker 2: i was too late to wake him and he let
- 46:52Speaker 2: out a snore that was so loud that some of
- 46:54Speaker 2: the kids on the stage looked over at us. At that,
- 46:57Speaker 2: I hit his arm a little harder, and he didn't
- 46:59Speaker 2: fall back asleep. My husband and I haven't mentioned anything
- 47:02Speaker 2: to my daughter, but it's obvious that she'd noticed. She
- 47:05Speaker 2: was heartbroken after the play and dismissed any of our
- 47:07Speaker 2: attempts to talk about it. My husband filmed the play
- 47:10Speaker 2: for my mom and stepdad, who were with our baby
- 47:12Speaker 2: during it. Instantly after the play, my dad asked if
- 47:14Speaker 2: he could have the video too, since he didn't watch
- 47:17Speaker 2: most of it. I told him that he had the
- 47:18Speaker 2: opportunity to watch it live and instead ruin the experience
- 47:21Speaker 2: for all of us, especially my daughter. He doesn't deserve
- 47:24Speaker 2: to watch what he just missed because he decided to
- 47:26Speaker 2: stay out late the night before. My dad's... He's telling
- 47:29Speaker 2: me and my husband that we're robbing him of his
- 47:31Speaker 2: role in my daughter's life. He also maintains the excuse
- 47:33Speaker 2: that he was exhausted during the play and he needed.
- 47:36Speaker 1: To get some rest.
- 47:36Speaker 4: Why does he sound like a teenager?
- 47:38Speaker 1: He's acting like one. I'd be like, yeah, dad, why
- 47:40Speaker 1: are you exhausted?
- 47:41Speaker 2: Can you tell me why? Oh, because of your travels? No, buddy,
- 47:44Speaker 2: you were out till 3 a.m. Can you imagine being
- 47:46Speaker 2: a 70-year-old going out till 3 a.m.
- 47:48Speaker 1: With your boys?
- 47:48Speaker 5: That sounds so fun.
- 47:50Speaker 1: Sounds like me in the future.
- 47:51Speaker 5: That sounds so fun.
- 47:52Speaker 1: You're retired.
- 47:53Speaker 5: You don't have anything else to do. Let's go get drunk.
- 47:55Speaker 2: Obi continues saying, I really don't think we're the a-holes,
- 47:58Speaker 2: but with how tense things have been getting, it might
- 48:00Speaker 2: be easier to just let him watch the video. And
- 48:02Speaker 2: we have some relevant comments. Why do you let him
- 48:04Speaker 2: stay with you? He stays with my younger sister sometimes,
- 48:07Speaker 2: but her place is much smaller than ours. The rest
- 48:09Speaker 2: of my paternal family lives mostly in a different state.
- 48:11Speaker 2: It's usually more convenient for him to stay at my apartment.
- 48:14Speaker 2: And my grandmother, my mom is especially upset about this.
- 48:16Speaker 2: She wanted to come to the play but volunteered to
- 48:18Speaker 2: watch my baby so that my dad could go. He's
- 48:21Speaker 2: probably embarrassed that he looked bad and wants to seem
- 48:23Speaker 2: like he cares now. Opie responds with, yeah, that definitely
- 48:26Speaker 2: crossed my mind. I'm pretty sure he was embarrassed about
- 48:28Speaker 2: the snoring and it would make sense for him to
- 48:30Speaker 2: want the video because of that. Another commenter says, you
- 48:33Speaker 2: need to determine with your dad if he's in town
- 48:35Speaker 2: to help with whatever you ask him to or to
- 48:38Speaker 2: just visit friends and relax. Plus, see you and the kids.
- 48:41Speaker 2: There's a difference in intent. OP responds to that commenter saying,
- 48:44Speaker 2: by help me with anything I ask him to, I
- 48:46Speaker 2: meant miniscule task. You know, handing over the remote control
- 48:50Speaker 2: is too much of an effort sometimes. The most I've
- 48:52Speaker 2: asked him to do was pick up the takeout we'd order.
- 48:54Speaker 2: He was 10 steps away from the door and I
- 48:56Speaker 2: was changing a diaper and wash his plate after dinner.
- 48:58Speaker 2: We have a wash what you use rule and OP
- 49:01Speaker 2: is voted not the a-hole.
- 49:02Speaker 1: We have an update.
- 49:03Speaker 5: No, why would you?
- 49:04Speaker 1: We have an update.
- 49:05Speaker 2: Do we think father is going to take some accountability?
- 49:07Speaker 5: I would hope so. I mean, the thing is, it
- 49:10Speaker 5: seems like either way.
- 49:11Speaker 1: You hope so, but do you think he is?
- 49:12Speaker 5: No.
- 49:13Speaker 2: No.
- 49:13Speaker 5: Like, if he was supposed to be the one to
- 49:15Speaker 5: watch the baby, he would have fallen asleep. And instead,
- 49:18Speaker 5: he went to the play and fell asleep. So either way,
- 49:21Speaker 5: this would have been a disaster.
- 49:22Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 49:22Speaker 5: So I guess this is the better choice because you
- 49:25Speaker 5: don't want your baby to be, you know, unsupervised.
- 49:28Speaker 2: I will say sometimes my dad does fall asleep at movies.
- 49:31Speaker 1: Well, I mean, yeah. He just looks so comfortable. I'm like,
- 49:34Speaker 1: as long as he doesn't snore, it's fine.
- 49:35Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly.
- 49:35Speaker 3: Whenever I was working at the sawmill, I went with
- 49:37Speaker 3: my little brother to go to some sort of space thing.
- 49:41Speaker 3: You know how you look at the stars and the
- 49:43Speaker 3: planets and all that? I was so tired, I just
- 49:45Speaker 3: took a nap. Because of all the physical labor I
- 49:47Speaker 3: was doing.
- 49:48Speaker 1: Yeah, it happened.
- 49:49Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 49:50Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 49:50Speaker 5: You just get comfy. You don't mean to whatever. But
- 49:53Speaker 5: it doesn't help that you were out till 3 a.m.
- 49:55Speaker 5: with your friends and then got five hours sleep, had
- 49:57Speaker 5: to wake up and was like, I'm ready to go.
- 49:59Speaker 5: And then just not even 15 minutes into it, you're out.
- 50:02Speaker 5: It's like, okay.
- 50:03Speaker 1: We have an update.
- 50:04Speaker 2: My father's leaving tomorrow, so I thought I'd give a
- 50:06Speaker 2: small update. These past few days, things have been awkward,
- 50:10Speaker 2: mostly because me and my husband were mad at my father,
- 50:12Speaker 2: who was mad at us back. A few hours after
- 50:14Speaker 2: I wrote my post, my father decided to prove me
- 50:17Speaker 2: wrong about my daughter being upset. Great, let's weaponize the
- 50:20Speaker 2: little child. He sat next to her and tried to
- 50:22Speaker 2: get her to talk about the play. He was asking
- 50:24Speaker 2: her questions about it, many of which... He'd know the
- 50:27Speaker 2: answers to if he'd stayed awake during it. I'm guessing
- 50:29Speaker 2: my daughter understood that because it only made things worse.
- 50:33Speaker 2: She refused to answer his questions, and at one point,
- 50:35Speaker 2: ran to me crying.
- 50:36Speaker 1: Good job, Dad! You made her cry!
- 50:38Speaker 6: Wow.
- 50:38Speaker 1: You definitely proved a point.
- 50:40Speaker 5: Yeah, that's sad.
- 50:41Speaker 2: I'm not sure if that was my dad's wake-up call
- 50:43Speaker 2: or if it was his granddaughter refusing to talk to him.
- 50:46Speaker 2: She usually idolizes him. Whatever it was, he apologized to
- 50:49Speaker 2: my daughter, and Opie puts in quotes here, Grandpa was
- 50:52Speaker 2: really tired, but he loves you very much.
- 50:54Speaker 1: That's so lame. It is the sorry but, isn't it?
- 50:58Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?
- 50:59Speaker 3: How like a sorry can mean so much at the beginning,
- 51:02Speaker 3: but as soon as that but landed, it's out the window.
- 51:05Speaker 3: It's like it doesn't even matter.
- 51:07Speaker 1: Riley, what if I gave you my sorry but?
- 51:09Speaker 6: Never.
- 51:09Speaker 3: No, you're like, I'm late, but my dad made me
- 51:12Speaker 3: move boxes.
- 51:13Speaker 1: So yeah, recently.
- 51:14Speaker 5: What if I just said I'm sorry but?
- 51:16Speaker 4: But what?
- 51:17Speaker 5: And then just moon you.
- 51:17Speaker 1: Yeah, what if I just gave you my butt?
- 51:19Speaker 3: I would rather that. That's a B-U-T-T, not a B-U-T.
- 51:23Speaker 3: Add the extra T and we're A-OK. Show me some
- 51:26Speaker 3: anal glands. Oh my gosh, we'll even be even better.
- 51:29Speaker 1: No.
- 51:29Speaker 3: Glands?
- 51:30Speaker 5: Talking about my ovaries? Give him the glands. Talking about
- 51:32Speaker 5: his glands? What's up with you? Where's Angie?
- 51:35Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 51:35Speaker 3: It's been a while.
- 51:36Speaker 4: I haven't seen her in a while.
- 51:37Speaker 1: You need to visit the doctor.
- 51:37Speaker 4: I need to visit Angie.
- 51:39Speaker 6: I know.
- 51:40Speaker 2: OP continues saying, my daughter said she forgave him, but
- 51:43Speaker 2: was still upset. So he came to me Tuesday night
- 51:45Speaker 2: to ask what he could do to fix things before
- 51:47Speaker 2: he went home. I helped him brainstorm some ideas. Yesterday,
- 51:50Speaker 2: my father surprised the kids with a trip to the aquarium.
- 51:52Speaker 2: My daughter had been asking us to go there for
- 51:54Speaker 2: a while, but with a newborn at home, we hadn't
- 51:56Speaker 2: had time to do that yet. The kids had a
- 51:59Speaker 2: lot of fun there, and my dad let them each
- 52:01Speaker 2: get a plushie from the gift shop.
- 52:02Speaker 5: Awww.
- 52:03Speaker 1: Listen, okay, you can't do this every time, though. You
- 52:05Speaker 1: can't buy their love.
- 52:06Speaker 5: It is true. You cannot buy their love, but it
- 52:08Speaker 5: is something that they wanted, and to kids, that means
- 52:11Speaker 5: a lot. I don't know.
- 52:12Speaker 3: My great-grandpa would always buy my love by getting me
- 52:14Speaker 3: toys on the weekends.
- 52:15Speaker 4: It always worked.
- 52:16Speaker 2: It always works for the kids. It shouldn't work for
- 52:18Speaker 2: the parents, where they're like, okay, I see what you're doing.
- 52:20Speaker 2: This shouldn't be your resort every time. It shouldn't be like, oh,
- 52:22Speaker 2: I messed up.
- 52:23Speaker 1: Let me buy them something.
- 52:24Speaker 5: This is him trying to reconcile, though. And since they
- 52:26Speaker 5: can't sit down and have a one-on-one talk to a
- 52:29Speaker 5: five-year-old and a nine-year-old, it's like, all right, you know what?
- 52:33Speaker 5: Let's go on a little trip. I'm sorry. Here's what
- 52:35Speaker 5: we're going to do.
- 52:36Speaker 1: Hey, Riley, could you take us to the aquarium?
- 52:38Speaker 5: Stop, because I would love to go to the aquarium.
- 52:40Speaker 5: Have you been to Long Beach one? Have you?
- 52:41Speaker 1: We should all go. We should all go.
- 52:43Speaker 5: I love it there.
- 52:44Speaker 1: I love it.
- 52:45Speaker 5: There's so many things you can touch.
- 52:46Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fun. I love that.
- 52:47Speaker 5: That's why I love it. I'm such a hands-on girl.
- 52:50Speaker 2: Afterwards, we went to Mickey D's and took the kids
- 52:52Speaker 2: to see Santa at the mall. Overall, my kids had
- 52:54Speaker 2: a great day with their grandfather, and my daughter is feeling.
- 52:57Speaker 1: A lot better. That said.
- 52:58Speaker 2: The aquarium, non-fancy food, and old guy in a fake
- 53:01Speaker 2: beard are definitely part of my father's ideas of heck.
- 53:04Speaker 2: So I'm sure I'll hear him complain about all the
- 53:06Speaker 2: sacrifices he made for his grandkids for a while. But
- 53:09Speaker 2: as long as my kids think he had fun, I'm
- 53:11Speaker 2: fine with that. I do think he understands he screwed
- 53:13Speaker 2: up though. He's no longer asking us for the video,
- 53:15Speaker 2: and has promised he'll never show such disregard for things
- 53:18Speaker 2: my kids care about again.
- 53:19Speaker 5: I think honestly that that works for him to do
- 53:22Speaker 5: that and to be like, you know, I'm going to
- 53:24Speaker 5: reconcile with something that the kids want to do. As
- 53:27Speaker 5: long as like, you know, it's not like, oh, I'll reconcile.
- 53:30Speaker 5: Come on, kids, come to the bar with me and
- 53:31Speaker 5: my friends. Like, you know, it could have been something
- 53:33Speaker 5: like that. And I would be like, no, at least
- 53:35Speaker 5: he was doing something for the kids, something that they
- 53:37Speaker 5: wanted and something that they've been looking forward to doing. And,
- 53:39Speaker 5: you know, and he probably had them by himself, you know,
- 53:42Speaker 5: the whole day. So that's honestly kind of like a
- 53:44Speaker 5: punishment for him. Great.
- 53:46Speaker 2: What about OP? What is dad going to do for OP?
- 53:48Speaker 2: Father should take OP to the aquarium too. As some
- 53:52Speaker 2: of you suggested, I told him that he'll have to
- 53:54Speaker 2: stay with my sister or one of his friends next
- 53:56Speaker 2: time he visits. I think he knows the you're keeping
- 53:59Speaker 2: me away from my grandkids excuse won't work on me
- 54:02Speaker 2: because he hasn't complained about that yet. If he tries
- 54:04Speaker 2: to pick a fight over it once he's home, I'll
- 54:06Speaker 2: hang up on him.
- 54:07Speaker 1: Thanks, everyone. We have some relevant comments here saying.
- 54:09Speaker 2: What's he got against aquariums? OP replies with, he thinks
- 54:12Speaker 2: they're boring. Same goes for zoos. So this guy really sucks.
- 54:15Speaker 5: He has no whimsy in his life.
- 54:16Speaker 2: What does he enjoy?
- 54:17Speaker 1: You know what? Take the kids to the bars. That's, yeah.
- 54:19Speaker 5: That's what I said.
- 54:20Speaker 2: Obi continues saying it's a good start, but not convinced
- 54:23Speaker 2: his behavior will change.
- 54:24Speaker 1: Quotes.
- 54:25Speaker 2: Oh, I'm not convinced either. That's why he's not staying
- 54:27Speaker 2: with us next time. I don't want my kids to
- 54:29Speaker 2: get used to him behaving like this. My sister has
- 54:32Speaker 2: a daughter, so I hope he stays with one of
- 54:34Speaker 2: his friends instead of her.
- 54:35Speaker 1: And that is the end of the story. There you go.
- 54:38Speaker 5: Yeah, this guy. I mean, he's probably got a couple
- 54:41Speaker 5: more years.
- 54:43Speaker 1: Probably a decade. Probably two.
- 54:45Speaker 4: I don't know.
- 54:46Speaker 5: He's drinking his life away.
- 54:47Speaker 4: True.
- 54:48Speaker 5: So who knows, but this guy, yeah.
- 54:51Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're gonna go
- 54:54Speaker 2: on to the next one.
- 54:55Speaker 6: My mother skipped my graduation dinner to avoid my father.
- 54:59Speaker 1: That's just rude.
- 55:00Speaker 6: So a bit of context to start off. Three years
- 55:02Speaker 6: ago on Christmas Eve, my mom, 65 female, had a
- 55:05Speaker 6: crash out and announced to me, 23 female, that she
- 55:08Speaker 6: was filing for divorce with my dad. I had not
- 55:10Speaker 6: seen it coming and I proceeded to spend the worst
- 55:12Speaker 6: Christmas of my life completely out of it and profoundly sad.
- 55:16Speaker 6: The last three years have been quite rocky. For the
- 55:18Speaker 6: first year, I was the only one knowing about the
- 55:21Speaker 6: incoming divorce. I had to live with my dad, 70 male,
- 55:24Speaker 6: and my sister, 25 female, all the while keeping this
- 55:27Speaker 6: secret from them and dealing with my mother witching to
- 55:30Speaker 6: me about my dad. I ended up blowing a fuse
- 55:32Speaker 6: one day and asked her to either file for divorce
- 55:34Speaker 6: and leave the house or stop talking to me about it.
- 55:37Speaker 6: She was mad at first, and we had several conversations
- 55:39Speaker 6: before she finally consented to stop. By the way, this
- 55:43Speaker 6: comes from Tapas44. And if you want to submit your
- 55:45Speaker 6: own stories, go to the r slash showcase story time subreddit.
- 55:48Speaker 5: I'm Sophia.
- 55:49Speaker 1: I'm Keon.
- 55:49Speaker 3: I'm Riley.
- 55:50Speaker 6: And we're here to give good advice goofily, but we
- 55:52Speaker 6: don't have all the answers. We only know what we'd do.
- 55:54Speaker 6: So let us know what you would do in the comments.
- 55:55Speaker 6: This year, she finally went for it. And she and
- 55:58Speaker 6: my dad are divorcing. My sister has since moved out,
- 56:01Speaker 6: so it's just me and my parents who barely talk
- 56:03Speaker 6: to each other anymore.
- 56:04Speaker 5: So let's say the vibe is icy at home.
- 56:07Speaker 6: I cannot tell you the number of times I was
- 56:09Speaker 6: caught in the middle of their disagreements and silent, petty fights,
- 56:13Speaker 6: but I've always tried not to pick sides and to
- 56:15Speaker 6: stay out of it as much as possible. I recently
- 56:17Speaker 6: graduated from uni... And as soon as I got my diploma,
- 56:21Speaker 6: I got a call from a company I interned in
- 56:23Speaker 6: during my studies.
- 56:24Speaker 5: Best internship of my life, by the way. Offering me
- 56:26Speaker 5: my dream job.
- 56:27Speaker 1: Yes. Yes.
- 56:29Speaker 6: Sometimes you got to go through a lot of struggles
- 56:31Speaker 6: and then you get something nice.
- 56:32Speaker 2: You got to go through a lot of lows to
- 56:34Speaker 2: really feel the highs.
- 56:35Speaker 6: When I got the news, I was over the moon.
- 56:37Speaker 6: I wanted nothing more than to announce it to my family.
- 56:40Speaker 6: but my dad was away and my mom was going
- 56:42Speaker 6: on a vacation with her sister, so I decided to
- 56:45Speaker 6: wait until they both got back. My sister was supposed
- 56:48Speaker 6: to come by a few days ago, and since both
- 56:50Speaker 6: my parents would have been back, I had planned to
- 56:52Speaker 6: tell them. Unfortunately, my sister hurt her back at the
- 56:55Speaker 6: gym and she was not able to make the trip,
- 56:58Speaker 6: so I decided to book a table later in the
- 57:00Speaker 6: week in the same city my sister lives in so
- 57:02Speaker 6: that we could still see each other. I told my
- 57:04Speaker 6: mom I was planning a dinner to celebrate my graduation,
- 57:08Speaker 6: and she immediately turned down the invite saying she didn't
- 57:11Speaker 6: feel like sharing a table with my dad for one night.
- 57:13Speaker 2: Y'all share a house y'all shared a life for come
- 57:16Speaker 2: on let's just say at least 20 plus years i.
- 57:19Speaker 6: Begged her to come promised we would only stay for
- 57:22Speaker 6: one hour tops explained how important it was to me
- 57:25Speaker 6: and that a dinner with my family was the only
- 57:27Speaker 6: graduation present i needed but she refused to come i
- 57:31Speaker 6: assured her that my dad wouldn't even talk to her
- 57:34Speaker 6: that they could act as if the other wasn't there
- 57:36Speaker 6: But she just wouldn't budge.
- 57:38Speaker 5: In the end, I made a.
- 57:39Speaker 6: Reservation for the four of us and invited her. I
- 57:42Speaker 6: told her this was extremely important for me and her
- 57:45Speaker 6: absence would deeply hurt me. I reminded her that I
- 57:47Speaker 6: had bit the bullet many times during these past years
- 57:50Speaker 6: and now was the time to pay me back. The
- 57:53Speaker 6: day came and she did not show. I celebrated my
- 57:56Speaker 6: graduation with my sis and my dad and surprised them.
- 57:59Speaker 5: With the news of my first job. And we had
- 58:01Speaker 5: a great night.
- 58:02Speaker 6: But deep down, I was really sad that my mom
- 58:05Speaker 6: wasn't a part of it.
- 58:06Speaker 5: What should have been a great night, tasted bitter and dry.
- 58:09Speaker 6: Me and my mom are still not talking and she
- 58:11Speaker 6: found out about my first job through my sister. She
- 58:14Speaker 6: got upset and asked to celebrate just the two of us,
- 58:16Speaker 6: but I told her I needed her days earlier and
- 58:18Speaker 6: she was a no-show. I explained to her that the
- 58:20Speaker 6: goal was to celebrate with the three of them and
- 58:22Speaker 6: I wasn't keen on celebrating my success under her terms only.
- 58:27Speaker 6: My sister thinks I'm being too harsh and that my
- 58:29Speaker 6: mom didn't mean to hurt me am i the a-hole
- 58:32Speaker 6: and should i accept my mom's offer to celebrate together
- 58:35Speaker 6: and we've got an edit and presumably a little bit
- 58:38Speaker 6: left to this story but what do you think.
- 58:39Speaker 2: Is op the a-hole no your mom's extremely selfish she's
- 58:42Speaker 2: been extremely selfish for all this time she couldn't have
- 58:44Speaker 2: been just an adult for one hour one hour to
- 58:47Speaker 2: celebrate you it wasn't even like she didn't even have
- 58:49Speaker 2: to talk to him the only time i would be
- 58:51Speaker 2: like oh that sounds like okay that makes sense is
- 58:53Speaker 2: like if there was emotional mistreatment or something like that
- 58:57Speaker 2: but we didn't get that at all.
- 58:59Speaker 6: Honestly, she seemed like she was the one who was, yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah, no,
- 59:03Speaker 6: I don't think that you're the A-hole at all. I
- 59:05Speaker 6: think she showed that she refused, that, you know, she
- 59:08Speaker 6: didn't want to come through for you.
- 59:09Speaker 5: When you needed her. And now she's like, oh, well, well,
- 59:12Speaker 5: now I can do it alone if, you know, it's
- 59:14Speaker 5: just the two of us.
- 59:15Speaker 6: Edit, because y'all have questions. My dad was a typical
- 59:18Speaker 6: man in his relationship with my mom. He lied about
- 59:20Speaker 6: things and discarded her feelings and opinions. But he never
- 59:23Speaker 6: screamed at her, never hit her, and never spoke badly
- 59:26Speaker 6: to her or about her. And I'm not saying I'm
- 59:29Speaker 6: okay with that behavior, by the way. He was not
- 59:31Speaker 6: good to her. And I've always told her she was
- 59:33Speaker 6: doing the right thing and that, in the end, it
- 59:35Speaker 6: didn't matter to me as so long as she was happy.
- 59:38Speaker 6: Since the start of the divorce, my dad has tried
- 59:40Speaker 6: really hard to not let me or my sister know
- 59:43Speaker 6: about anything and keep to himself. But the same cannot
- 59:46Speaker 6: be said for my mom. I had to have many
- 59:48Speaker 6: conversations with her about sharing the details of the divorce
- 59:51Speaker 6: with me Talking crap about my dad, his friends, his family,
- 59:55Speaker 6: and making fun of him with her friends in front
- 59:57Speaker 6: of me and my sister. And that is what I'm
- 59:59Speaker 6: referring to when I talk about me biting the bullet
- 1:00:02Speaker 6: many times. It seemed to me like I always put
- 1:00:05Speaker 6: her happiness first, and when I asked her to do
- 1:00:07Speaker 6: the same for one night, she flat out refused. A
- 1:00:10Speaker 6: few months ago, my sister had a hard time and
- 1:00:12Speaker 6: organized a four-person lunch, and my mom did show. She's
- 1:00:16Speaker 6: much closer to my sister than me.
- 1:00:17Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Wait.
- 1:00:18Speaker 6: So your mom, your sister had the four person lunch
- 1:00:21Speaker 6: with your dad there and your mom came to that?
- 1:00:24Speaker 1: That wasn't clear on that. I feel like dad was there.
- 1:00:27Speaker 5: Well, that's what I'm saying.
- 1:00:27Speaker 6: I think it's implied that dad was there and she
- 1:00:30Speaker 6: came to that because she's closer to your sister.
- 1:00:33Speaker 1: So there's also favoritism going on here.
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: go on to the next one.
- 1:00:39Speaker 5: My mother taught both my siblings to drive, but never me.
- 1:00:43Speaker 5: She just knew you were too capable. There's a trigger
- 1:00:45Speaker 5: warning here for favoritism. My sister, a 24 female, got
- 1:00:49Speaker 5: her license a few weeks ago. I, 26 female, am
- 1:00:52Speaker 5: the only sibling without a license, but I do have
- 1:00:55Speaker 5: a learner's permit. Since 2015, I have been requesting assistance
- 1:00:58Speaker 5: from my mom to help me obtain my license. At first,
- 1:01:01Speaker 5: she would decline, telling me, that I have butterfly syndrome. Wow.
- 1:01:06Speaker 5: Let's fill the world.
- 1:01:08Speaker 1: It's so amazing.
- 1:01:09Speaker 5: She grows wings and flies away. She gets easily distracted. What?
- 1:01:13Speaker 5: That's a thing?
- 1:01:14Speaker 4: Yep.
- 1:01:15Speaker 5: I do agree that I did have attention span issues,
- 1:01:18Speaker 5: even to this day where I am suspected.
- 1:01:20Speaker 1: Of having ADHD.
- 1:01:22Speaker 5: She never sought for me to get evaluated to find
- 1:01:24Speaker 5: the root cause behind me being so easily distracted. Throughout
- 1:01:28Speaker 5: the years, I made efforts to show that I am
- 1:01:30Speaker 5: responsible and vigilant. and still refused to help me learn. Ironically,
- 1:01:33Speaker 5: whenever I needed a ride to go to work, she
- 1:01:35Speaker 5: would make me- passive-aggressive comments asking me when I was
- 1:01:38Speaker 5: going to get my license. Her next excuse was that
- 1:01:41Speaker 5: she didn't trust me and was too scared to give
- 1:01:43Speaker 5: me instructions. By the way, this comes from proofstreet4239. If
- 1:01:46Speaker 5: you want to submit your own stories, go to the
- 1:01:49Speaker 5: r slash okay story type subreddit. I'm Savannah. I'm Sophia.
- 1:01:53Speaker 1: I'm Riley.
- 1:01:53Speaker 5: And we're here to talk about some stuff and not
- 1:01:55Speaker 5: get distracted because none of us do that here.
- 1:01:57Speaker 6: You've never once gotten distracted and anyone who told you
- 1:01:59Speaker 6: that is a dirty, dirty liar.
- 1:02:01Speaker 5: And we're gonna say what we have to say and
- 1:02:02Speaker 5: If you don't agree with it, that sucks. But also,
- 1:02:05Speaker 5: you're open to your own opinion, so give it in
- 1:02:07Speaker 5: the comments. I eventually signed up and took lessons from
- 1:02:10Speaker 5: the public driving school. My instructor would praise my skills,
- 1:02:13Speaker 5: told me that I'm a good driver, and told me
- 1:02:15Speaker 5: I just need extra practice at home. She still refused
- 1:02:18Speaker 5: to let me practice with her car and wouldn't let
- 1:02:20Speaker 5: other relatives help me due to her fears. She, however,
- 1:02:23Speaker 5: had no problem allowing my brother to take her car
- 1:02:26Speaker 5: around the world, all while she was in the passenger seat.
- 1:02:29Speaker 5: She was calm and patient with my sister when she
- 1:02:31Speaker 5: was learning how to drive. My mother also accompanied my
- 1:02:34Speaker 5: brother to help him purchase a car. I couldn't help
- 1:02:36Speaker 5: but to feel resentment, not at my siblings, but towards her.
- 1:02:40Speaker 5: Why wasn't I worthy of her patience, her trust? Why
- 1:02:43Speaker 5: did she always shut me down, yet get frustrated with
- 1:02:46Speaker 5: my lack of license? At that point, I feel discouraged
- 1:02:48Speaker 5: from the lack of support from her and gave up.
- 1:02:51Speaker 5: I had to stop my lessons due to a diagnosis.
- 1:02:53Speaker 5: I was absent from work for a few months. I
- 1:02:55Speaker 5: was also prescribed new medications where I had to be
- 1:02:58Speaker 5: monitored and was advised against operating machinery and vehicles until
- 1:03:01Speaker 5: the side effects subsided. Recently, I re-enrolled into the driving
- 1:03:05Speaker 5: school with my first lesson on August 1st. I shared
- 1:03:08Speaker 5: the news with my sister who shared the news with
- 1:03:09Speaker 5: my mother. My mother told me that she would start
- 1:03:12Speaker 5: practicing with me. I declined and told her that while
- 1:03:14Speaker 5: I appreciate her offer, but that I was just going
- 1:03:17Speaker 5: to stick with the instructor's lessons. She questioned my rejection
- 1:03:20Speaker 5: to her offer. I tried to end the conversation to
- 1:03:23Speaker 5: prevent an argument with no success. We ended up having
- 1:03:25Speaker 5: a heated argument and I finally blew up. I explained
- 1:03:29Speaker 5: how I have spent years asking for her support but
- 1:03:32Speaker 5: was always blocked and labeled distracting. How I have made
- 1:03:36Speaker 5: efforts to show her She can trust me, yet she
- 1:03:39Speaker 5: kept making excuses as to why she wouldn't help me.
- 1:03:42Speaker 5: I poured out how I felt like a stuck loser
- 1:03:46Speaker 5: and behind, how she would enable my brother to make
- 1:03:48Speaker 5: jokes about me not having a license, her passive aggressiveness
- 1:03:52Speaker 5: and how she couldn't give me the same courtesy and
- 1:03:54Speaker 5: patience she demonstrated towards my sister. Her actions showed me
- 1:03:58Speaker 5: that she didn't support me. I was tired of being
- 1:04:00Speaker 5: met with rejection, so I gave up on asking her
- 1:04:03Speaker 5: for help a long time ago. She just looked at me,
- 1:04:06Speaker 5: She said, I guess I was just a terrible mother. No, no, no.
- 1:04:11Speaker 5: Don't give me the terrible mom routine. I'm not about that.
- 1:04:15Speaker 5: I guess I just suck and you're better off without me.
- 1:04:17Speaker 6: I guess I'm just the worst. Maybe you should ask
- 1:04:19Speaker 6: someone else to be your mom. Maybe you should ask
- 1:04:21Speaker 6: your new driving instructor to be your mom.
- 1:04:23Speaker 5: Yeah. If I'm so terrible. And left the living room.
- 1:04:25Speaker 5: A part of me feels guilty for my explosive reaction.
- 1:04:28Speaker 5: That's what she wants. Don't let her win. Yet it
- 1:04:31Speaker 5: made me sit down and reminisce how she treated me
- 1:04:33Speaker 5: differently from my siblings. For example, I had to start
- 1:04:36Speaker 5: paying rent at 17 when I got my first part-time
- 1:04:39Speaker 5: job during my junior year of high school. Yet it
- 1:04:42Speaker 5: was okay for siblings to just focus on school. See?
- 1:04:45Speaker 6: See?
- 1:04:45Speaker 3: I had to work in the garden during the summers,
- 1:04:47Speaker 3: and my little brothers don't have to anymore.
- 1:04:49Speaker 1: They get to play Fortnite.
- 1:04:50Speaker 5: Never mind the fact my then-stepdad, who was able-bodied, was
- 1:04:53Speaker 5: living with us unemployed. She did raise me a bit
- 1:04:56Speaker 5: differently from my siblings, but I still care about her
- 1:04:59Speaker 5: feelings since she is my mother. So am I the a-hole? No, she's-
- 1:05:02Speaker 5: For what? She's winning! You're letting her win! Yeah, wanting
- 1:05:07Speaker 5: to get your license?
- 1:05:08Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 1:05:08Speaker 6: Wanting to get your license because your mom told you
- 1:05:10Speaker 6: to get your license, and then when you asked her
- 1:05:12Speaker 6: to help you get your license, she said, no. So
- 1:05:15Speaker 6: then you went to someone else and they helped you.
- 1:05:17Speaker 6: And then she came back and was like, OK, well,
- 1:05:19Speaker 6: now I can help you.
- 1:05:19Speaker 5: And you went too late.
- 1:05:20Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 1:05:21Speaker 5: It's just like, I don't really know what you want.
- 1:05:23Speaker 5: And I can't sit here and wait for you to
- 1:05:25Speaker 5: make up your mind. You're so confusing.
- 1:05:28Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story. We're going to
- 1:05:30Speaker 2: go on to the next one. Hey, it's Keon, your
- 1:05:33Speaker 2: host with the cakes here. We're going to get back
- 1:05:35Speaker 2: to the stories. But here's three minutes of ads from
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: our sponsors. My brother-in-law paid for everyone's trip, except mine.
- 1:05:41Speaker 5: Hey, not fair!
- 1:05:43Speaker 2: Oh man, where do I even start? I'm 26 female,
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: and my older sister, 33, got married last year. From
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: the moment they began dating till present day, her husband,
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: 34 male, absolutely hates me. Like, I've done nothing to
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: deserve this level of hatred. I've never done anything bad
- 1:05:58Speaker 2: to this guy. But he decided that I'm the worst
- 1:06:00Speaker 2: person in the world, apparently. He's never explained what his
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: problem is with me. but he labels me entitled, vapid, lazy, obnoxious, etc.
- 1:06:07Speaker 2: Everyone I know describes me as a kind and friendly person.
- 1:06:10Speaker 2: I don't make enemies and I don't have enemies, so
- 1:06:12Speaker 2: I've never experienced anything like this in my life. His
- 1:06:14Speaker 2: passionate hatred of me had a severe effect on my
- 1:06:17Speaker 2: relationship with my sister. I told her many times to
- 1:06:19Speaker 2: speak with her husband and ask him to leave me
- 1:06:21Speaker 2: alone because this is all unfair. However, she always pretends
- 1:06:26Speaker 2: that nothing is going on. In fact, she accuses me
- 1:06:29Speaker 2: of being sensitive and seeing things that aren't there every
- 1:06:32Speaker 2: time i bring up the topic she shuts it down
- 1:06:34Speaker 2: and says ah there you go again does it always
- 1:06:37Speaker 2: have to be about you while rolling her eyes it's
- 1:06:41Speaker 2: like she knows that he's being unjust but she doesn't
- 1:06:44Speaker 2: care a part of me is convinced she doesn't care
- 1:06:46Speaker 2: because her husband It's from a rich family, and she's
- 1:06:49Speaker 2: basically living the life and doesn't want to threaten that.
- 1:06:52Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user AmbitiousElephant207. And if
- 1:06:55Speaker 2: you want to submit your own stories, go to the
- 1:06:56Speaker 2: r slash OKStoryTime subreddit.
- 1:06:58Speaker 1: I'm Keon.
- 1:06:59Speaker 5: I'm Sophia.
- 1:06:59Speaker 4: I'm Riley.
- 1:07:00Speaker 2: And us three are going to give comments about this story.
- 1:07:03Speaker 1: It may be goofy. It may be silly. It may
- 1:07:05Speaker 1: be dumb.
- 1:07:05Speaker 2: But that's what we're going to do. Let us know
- 1:07:06Speaker 2: what you do in the comments. My mother can also
- 1:07:08Speaker 2: see what's going on. And I've vented to her many times,
- 1:07:11Speaker 2: and she'll just tell me to accept it. She even
- 1:07:14Speaker 2: admitted she knows it's terrible the way he's treating me,
- 1:07:16Speaker 2: but there's nothing she can do. And that she actually
- 1:07:18Speaker 2: feels worse for my sister. I remember my mother telling me,
- 1:07:22Speaker 2: we can't have it all in life. Just ignore him
- 1:07:24Speaker 2: and be grateful you're not carrying your sister's burden.
- 1:07:27Speaker 1: Over the last year or so, these are some.
- 1:07:29Speaker 2: Of the actions he's taken against... There is a specific
- 1:07:32Speaker 2: type of bread I cannot eat. For my birthday, he
- 1:07:34Speaker 2: sent a box full of that specific bread to my address. Dude,
- 1:07:37Speaker 2: he hates you.
- 1:07:38Speaker 5: It's kind of, it's a level of hatred that's... It's
- 1:07:41Speaker 5: very comical. But it's so funny.
- 1:07:42Speaker 6: Because it's, he knows so much about you.
- 1:07:45Speaker 2: Yes.
- 1:07:46Speaker 6: You know, like he knows enough about you to know
- 1:07:49Speaker 6: that you are allergic or have an intolerance to a
- 1:07:51Speaker 6: certain food. food to the point that just so that
- 1:07:54Speaker 6: he can torture you with it.
- 1:07:55Speaker 1: You're in his head.
- 1:07:56Speaker 5: It's really funny.
- 1:07:57Speaker 2: It's very funny that you are literally in his head.
- 1:07:59Speaker 6: Like he's the type of person who remembers your birthday
- 1:08:02Speaker 6: so that on your birthday, he can send you a
- 1:08:05Speaker 6: card saying like, oh, I hate you.
- 1:08:08Speaker 2: When I got upset, he said, it's just a harmless
- 1:08:10Speaker 2: prank and I need to chill. One time at a restaurant,
- 1:08:12Speaker 2: we had dinner and he loudly said that I don't
- 1:08:14Speaker 2: really look like I belong to the family. For some context,
- 1:08:17Speaker 2: my sister and I aren't biologically related. I was adopted
- 1:08:20Speaker 2: as a baby. This was really embarrassing and I felt awful.
- 1:08:22Speaker 2: I cried in the bathroom and went home early, puffy-eyed.
- 1:08:24Speaker 1: LOL.
- 1:08:26Speaker 2: Last Christmas, during a family gathering, he presented everyone with
- 1:08:28Speaker 2: an amazing, thoughtful gift and gave me... nothing. Listen, I
- 1:08:33Speaker 2: don't expect anything from him. But it's not the first
- 1:08:36Speaker 2: time he's made a big show of gifting everyone something
- 1:08:38Speaker 2: amazing and deliberately gets me nothing. He's done it three
- 1:08:41Speaker 2: times since Christmas. It's humiliating to me to be the
- 1:08:45Speaker 2: odd one out like that. I'm currently a barista while
- 1:08:48Speaker 2: applying for jobs, and brother-in-law once said to me, unprovoked,
- 1:08:51Speaker 2: No lofty ambitions, eh? You're too lazy and vain to
- 1:08:54Speaker 2: find a real job? I was appalled at the audacity
- 1:08:57Speaker 2: and made the mistake of explaining my situation. He basically
- 1:09:00Speaker 2: said that he knows the type of woman I am
- 1:09:03Speaker 2: and that I'm lazy and want to be fed grapes
- 1:09:05Speaker 2: and have servants fan me and someone to massage me.
- 1:09:07Speaker 2: Not sure why, but he always acts like I'm some lazy,
- 1:09:10Speaker 2: spoiled girl when I'm not. Several times, he's accused me
- 1:09:13Speaker 2: of having work on my body done and being plastic
- 1:09:16Speaker 2: when I'm 100% natural.
- 1:09:17Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I think he likes you.
- 1:09:19Speaker 5: Oh, you think I'm pretty? You go, oh, no, I'm
- 1:09:21Speaker 5: all natural, but thank you.
- 1:09:23Speaker 1: You think these ladies are fake?
- 1:09:24Speaker 5: Oh, my God, thank you.
- 1:09:25Speaker 1: Oh, my gosh, thank you.
- 1:09:26Speaker 4: You're all natural, I know.
- 1:09:27Speaker 5: Isn't that crazy?
- 1:09:28Speaker 2: What?
- 1:09:28Speaker 1: Gosh.
- 1:09:29Speaker 2: It's such an odd thing to accuse me of. He
- 1:09:31Speaker 2: even said that my sister is so much classier and
- 1:09:33Speaker 2: more appropriate than me. And these are just a few examples.
- 1:09:37Speaker 2: During conversations, he's always talking down on me, picking arguments
- 1:09:40Speaker 2: out of nothing. He also gives me this weird intense
- 1:09:42Speaker 2: eye contact like he really effing hates me, and it's unsettling.
- 1:09:45Speaker 1: In my gut, it feels so wrong.
- 1:09:48Speaker 2: As a result, I've greatly reduced my contact with my
- 1:09:50Speaker 2: sister and brother-in-law.
- 1:09:51Speaker 1: However.
- 1:09:52Speaker 2: But due to family stuff, we see each other, you know,
- 1:09:54Speaker 2: once in a while. Fast forward to recently. Brother-in-law organized
- 1:09:57Speaker 2: a family resort stay. It covered everyone's expenses except, yeah,
- 1:10:00Speaker 2: you guessed it, mine. Of course, I wasn't going to go,
- 1:10:03Speaker 2: but my mom literally begged me because she wanted me there.
- 1:10:06Speaker 2: So my mother covered my expenses and I told her
- 1:10:08Speaker 2: I'd be going only for her. The resort itself was amazing,
- 1:10:12Speaker 2: but on day one, I felt a bit lightheaded at
- 1:10:14Speaker 2: the beach towards the evening. I went up to my
- 1:10:16Speaker 2: room to just rest a little. Around five minutes later,
- 1:10:18Speaker 2: brother-in-law came and stood at the door and asked why
- 1:10:20Speaker 2: I left.
- 1:10:21Speaker 5: Uh, see? He's so obsessed with you.
- 1:10:25Speaker 2: The fact that you left five minutes and he's like,
- 1:10:27Speaker 2: let me go check on her.
- 1:10:28Speaker 4: He noticed.
- 1:10:28Speaker 5: He was like, oh shoot, she's not feeling well.
- 1:10:30Speaker 6: I have to go check on her and bully her
- 1:10:32Speaker 6: because I'm in love with her and I don't know
- 1:10:34Speaker 6: how to handle my feelings.
- 1:10:35Speaker 2: I want to bully her with my mouth to mouth.
- 1:10:38Speaker 6: And that's why the mom said, think about how your
- 1:10:41Speaker 6: sister must be feeling.
- 1:10:42Speaker 2: I told him, it's none of his business. business he
- 1:10:45Speaker 2: said it is his business and that i'm ruining the
- 1:10:47Speaker 2: vibes of my moodiness i asked him why he's looking
- 1:10:50Speaker 2: for me anyway and he got really pissed and he
- 1:10:52Speaker 2: said he's not looking for me and to get over
- 1:10:54Speaker 2: myself the following day i started hanging out with a
- 1:10:56Speaker 2: woman i had met the night before we quickly became
- 1:10:58Speaker 2: friends and she was super sweet i was telling my
- 1:11:01Speaker 2: cousin about it and brother-in-law overheard when i said i
- 1:11:03Speaker 2: made a new friend he said who's he.
- 1:11:05Speaker 5: Oh dude oh Oh, why do you care? You need
- 1:11:09Speaker 5: to go on a date, OP, because this man is
- 1:11:11Speaker 5: going to go crazy.
- 1:11:12Speaker 1: He's going goo goo.
- 1:11:13Speaker 5: The second that you go on a date with a man,
- 1:11:15Speaker 5: he's going to be like, who is he?
- 1:11:16Speaker 4: He looks like he sucks. He looks stupid.
- 1:11:18Speaker 2: Who is that man I see? I was like, it's
- 1:11:23Speaker 2: a woman, dude. He said, oh, you're into women, too.
- 1:11:27Speaker 2: Of course you are. I was like, what the F
- 1:11:28Speaker 2: are you talking about? I literally only befriended her. Even
- 1:11:31Speaker 2: my cousin laughed at how absurd it was and defended me.
- 1:11:34Speaker 2: From that point onwards, I decided to 100% ignore him.
- 1:11:38Speaker 2: And this clearly made him angrier. My sister also grew
- 1:11:41Speaker 2: even more distant and would ignore me a lot.
- 1:11:44Speaker 5: Because she's jealous that her husband's.
- 1:11:45Speaker 4: In love with you.
- 1:11:46Speaker 2: Yeah, because guess what? She's getting zero attention from him.
- 1:11:49Speaker 5: Because he's spending all his time bothering you.
- 1:11:52Speaker 1: It was so... weird and terrible.
- 1:11:54Speaker 2: I cried to my mom that I'm going home early
- 1:11:56Speaker 2: because I can't stand all this bullying. She begged me
- 1:11:59Speaker 2: to stay, and so I told myself I'd just survive
- 1:12:02Speaker 2: a few more days and never speak to brother-in-law again.
- 1:12:04Speaker 2: A few days later, a bunch of us were playing
- 1:12:06Speaker 2: board games. Family members and friends we made, like I
- 1:12:09Speaker 2: brought along my new friend. I went to the kitchen,
- 1:12:11Speaker 2: and brother-in-law followed me in a few minutes later. I
- 1:12:13Speaker 2: felt uncomfortable, but ignored him, and I could tell from
- 1:12:15Speaker 2: the corner of my eye he was staring at me.
- 1:12:18Speaker 2: I have this tick where I hum a melody when
- 1:12:20Speaker 2: I'm nervous, and he said, I make you nervous. I
- 1:12:22Speaker 2: didn't reply and just grabbed my drink and walked out.
- 1:12:25Speaker 2: When we sat back down, brother-in-law clapped to get everyone's
- 1:12:27Speaker 2: attention and said, Can we have a round of applause
- 1:12:29Speaker 2: for OP? She smelled awful yesterday, but today, she actually
- 1:12:32Speaker 2: put on perfume!
- 1:12:33Speaker 1: And I go, Thanks for noticing.
- 1:12:35Speaker 5: Why are you smelling me so much?
- 1:12:37Speaker 1: And I go, smell y'all later. I'm walking out.
- 1:12:39Speaker 5: Yeah, bye.
- 1:12:40Speaker 2: There was some awkward laughter and someone just said, that's
- 1:12:42Speaker 2: effed up.
- 1:12:43Speaker 5: That's so awkward. You're just like, the whole table's like, eh.
- 1:12:47Speaker 2: And then someone just goes, that's effed up.
- 1:12:49Speaker 1: Yeah. Shout out to that person who said that's effed up.
- 1:12:51Speaker 1: Was it your friend, your new friend?
- 1:12:52Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe it was the new friend. She was like.
- 1:12:54Speaker 2: I felt so humiliated and said that I don't smell
- 1:12:56Speaker 2: and he's lying. I have high hygiene standards and I'm
- 1:12:59Speaker 2: literally a perfume regular user.
- 1:13:01Speaker 1: So it was bad.
- 1:13:02Speaker 2: Bs he waved his hand in front of his nose
- 1:13:05Speaker 2: and scrunched it and said yeah you definitely did such.
- 1:13:09Speaker 6: A child op and then you go oh oh i
- 1:13:13Speaker 6: wasn't even around you yesterday so you must have like
- 1:13:16Speaker 6: really sought me out to smell me.
- 1:13:17Speaker 2: Yeah hey you want to smell me i'll get up
- 1:13:18Speaker 2: real close to you yeah smell me i got up
- 1:13:21Speaker 2: and walked out and never felt so humiliated in my
- 1:13:23Speaker 2: life i cried that night in my room and my
- 1:13:26Speaker 2: new friend came to check on.
- 1:13:27Speaker 6: Me this is so sad because i feel like.
- 1:13:29Speaker 2: Unfortunately Just over Opie's head every time.
- 1:13:31Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 1:13:32Speaker 6: Well, it's just like bullying tends to work best on
- 1:13:35Speaker 6: people who don't know how to defend themselves. And that's
- 1:13:38Speaker 6: why the bullies pick on that person because it's like
- 1:13:40Speaker 6: they are like, oh, well, I don't know how to
- 1:13:42Speaker 6: defend myself. And the bully's like, ah, I can exploit this.
- 1:13:46Speaker 6: And unfortunately, OP, you really, the best way to deal
- 1:13:49Speaker 6: with this is not to say, no, I don't, or
- 1:13:51Speaker 6: like go cry to someone. It's literally just to not
- 1:13:54Speaker 6: let him know that any of this faces you. And yeah,
- 1:13:56Speaker 6: it really sucks that no one's defending you, but he
- 1:13:59Speaker 6: wouldn't stop even if someone did defend you.
- 1:14:01Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:14:01Speaker 5: Unfortunately.
- 1:14:02Speaker 2: A little bit left here, let's go ahead and finish
- 1:14:03Speaker 2: it up. So, Opie continues saying, I explained everything to her,
- 1:14:06Speaker 2: and she agreed that it's all deeply effed up. But,
- 1:14:10Speaker 2: she's 1000% convinced that my brother-in-law is weirdly obsessed with me,
- 1:14:14Speaker 2: and that my sister knows, but doesn't want to face
- 1:14:16Speaker 2: the truth.
- 1:14:17Speaker 1: This new person that you just met is just like,
- 1:14:19Speaker 1: I clocked it.
- 1:14:19Speaker 6: It's so it's so easy to see it when you're
- 1:14:22Speaker 6: outside of the situation. And she's like, yeah, I've been
- 1:14:24Speaker 6: here one day, but he's in love with you.
- 1:14:26Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 1:14:27Speaker 2: I told her that none of this is my fault
- 1:14:29Speaker 2: and I don't understand why I'm being punished.
- 1:14:30Speaker 5: Oh, he you're not.
- 1:14:33Speaker 6: I wish you could hear me. I wish you could
- 1:14:34Speaker 6: hear me right now. You're not being like it's not
- 1:14:37Speaker 6: your fault. You're not being punished for anything that you've done.
- 1:14:41Speaker 6: He's just a loser and is obsessed with you and
- 1:14:44Speaker 6: doesn't know how to be an adult and tell you feelings.
- 1:14:46Speaker 6: So he's just going to take it out on you
- 1:14:48Speaker 6: and you have to ignore it.
- 1:14:52Speaker 5: I agree.
- 1:14:52Speaker 1: This new friend knows what's up. Listen to the new friend.
- 1:15:08Speaker 3: Can we have her on the show?
- 1:15:09Speaker 4: I'd love to have her on the show.
- 1:15:10Speaker 5: She's great.
- 1:15:11Speaker 1: Yeah. And that is the end of that story.
- 1:15:13Speaker 6: No.
- 1:15:14Speaker 4: No.
- 1:15:15Speaker 5: I'm checking.
- 1:15:15Speaker 4: I'm checking. I'm checking. Please, please, please, please.
- 1:15:17Speaker 5: I'm upset. OP didn't learn anything.
- 1:15:20Speaker 1: This guy likes you. He like really, really likes you.
- 1:15:22Speaker 5: And you need to make fun of him for that.
- 1:15:24Speaker 5: 25 days ago.
- 1:15:25Speaker 1: Oh. Are there any comments saying... Yeah, the guy likes you.
- 1:15:29Speaker 3: This person, like, they privated their, like, freaking messages and stuff.
- 1:15:33Speaker 4: I hate that.
- 1:15:34Speaker 1: Because you're like, you posted on the internet, but you
- 1:15:36Speaker 1: don't want us to talk to you?
- 1:15:37Speaker 5: You don't want us to talk to you?
- 1:15:38Speaker 2: And that's the end of this story.