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DISGUSTING DIDDY: FREAK-OFF “TOO GROSS” FOR HOTEL, DIDDY ASS’T “CLEANED & FLUFFED” · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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  Speaker 1: Crime Stores with Nancy Grace, the federal government versus Sean
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  Speaker 1: Come joining us now investigative reporter Lauren Colin, star of
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  Speaker 1: Pop Crime TV.
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  Speaker 2: Lauren, thank you for being with us. A lot happening
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  Speaker 2: in the courtroom.
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  Speaker 1: First of all, direct examination of a special agent, Girard Gannon.
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  Speaker 2: What happened?
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  Speaker 3: We finished the direct examination of special Agent Girard Gannon.
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  Speaker 3: He's with the HSI and he finished showing us all
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  Speaker 3: of the evidence that was collected during the Miami raid
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  Speaker 3: of Seawan Colins's house. And this is his house on
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  Speaker 3: Two Star Island, and what they seized from the house.
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  Speaker 3: They seized two defaced AR fifteens, and these AR fifteens.
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  Speaker 4: They were separated.
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  Speaker 3: We saw the the lower barrels and the upper barrels.
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  Speaker 3: The upper barrels were actually they were wrapped in a
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  Speaker 3: towel and the lower barrels were in a separate spot.
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  Speaker 3: And the magazines were not with the lower barrels. However,
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  Speaker 3: the lower magazines were loaded, both of them.
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  Speaker 1: You know, a lot is being made of the number
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  Speaker 1: of agents at the raid, and I find that very
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  Speaker 1: very disturbing. Sidney Sumner also joining US Crime Story's investigative
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  Speaker 1: reporter Sydney. I understand there were dozens of federal agents at.
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  Speaker 2: The raid, so what what's the issue?
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  Speaker 5: Agents went in feeling like they were going to be
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  Speaker 5: confronted by armed guards. That's what they thought they were
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  Speaker 5: walking into when they came into this house. They specifically
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  Speaker 5: waited for Combs and his family to leave before they
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  Speaker 5: entered to avoid any more confrontation. They only found six
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  Speaker 5: people at the home, a music producer who has not
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  Speaker 5: been named, a property manager, and a few other staff members.
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  Speaker 5: But they put all of those people in handcuffs to
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  Speaker 5: go into the home, and there were ninety agents total
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  Speaker 5: just about and they had people sitting out at the
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  Speaker 5: water to make sure nobody tried to flee into the
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  Speaker 5: canal right behind his home. They had to come into
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  Speaker 5: this in full force, and they were right. They found
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  Speaker 5: a r's with several modifications scratched off serial numbers. They
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  Speaker 5: knew they were possibly coming into a firefight and prepared
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  Speaker 5: for it.
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  Speaker 1: The Feds even have the backside that is on the
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  Speaker 1: water completely surrounded. You know what, Sidney Summer, You and
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  Speaker 1: I've covered a lot of cases together when we've gone
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  Speaker 1: on location and investigated a lot of cases. You know
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  Speaker 1: what a gun it makes a big man little and
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  Speaker 1: a little man big.
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  Speaker 2: You know, let's tell it like it is.
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  Speaker 1: Chris mcgunn adjoining me former homicide to detective, a star
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  Speaker 1: of the Interview Room now on YouTube.
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  Speaker 2: Chris mcdonnaugh. You get an ar going, you get an
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  Speaker 2: M sixteen going.
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  Speaker 1: How many FEDS could they shoot down up thirty seconds?
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  Speaker 2: Tell it?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a lot. And that's why these operations. You know,
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  Speaker 6: you start out with an OP plan and you discover
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  Speaker 6: those vulnerabilities in relationship to officer safety. You know, where
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  Speaker 6: do officers need to be placed and are they safe
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  Speaker 6: in those positions based on the potential threats that you
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  Speaker 6: could be facing.
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  Speaker 1: They would be mowed down like an old gangster movie
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  Speaker 1: where machine guns are used.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, you got to hand it to the fans. McDonough.
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  Speaker 1: They even had the backside covered that bordered on the
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  Speaker 1: water because I could absolutely see some of dde's cohorts
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  Speaker 1: trying to make a getaway by water.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, And Nancy, I actually had a case where five
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  Speaker 6: guys were mowed down within ten seconds from an automatic weapon.
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  Speaker 2: It was an SKS Sidney Sunder.
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  Speaker 1: Did I hear you say that the serial numbers were
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  Speaker 1: scratched off some of the weapons.
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  Speaker 5: Yes, both of those assault rifles, Nancy. The AR fifteens
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  Speaker 5: serial numbers were scratched through, so it's unclear exactly how
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  Speaker 5: they were obtained. If Colme's bot them with the seal name.
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  Speaker 2: I don't care. I don't care.
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  Speaker 1: If the angel Gabriel came down from heaven and dropped
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  Speaker 1: them in Diddy's lap. That is a serious, serious offense. McDonough,
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  Speaker 1: jump in, this is critical. You know why serial numbers
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  Speaker 1: are scraped off of weapons?
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  Speaker 6: Absolutely, Nancy, And this tells us maybe there's a wider
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  Speaker 6: net here. Right. What the FEDS are going to do
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  Speaker 6: is throw it into the system called NIVEN, which is
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  Speaker 6: the National Ballistic Information Network, and they're going to see
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  Speaker 6: if these weapons are tied into any other crimes.
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  Speaker 1: Do you think a bad guy is going to go
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  Speaker 1: to the gun and knife show down at the mall
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  Speaker 1: and buy a gun?
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  Speaker 2: Hgl n Oh.
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  Speaker 1: They get weapons like ars, basically machine guns on the
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  Speaker 1: black market. Why is a serial number scraped off? Because
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  Speaker 1: that gun could be connected to another serious crime? I
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  Speaker 1: want to see McDonough. McDonough, you need to get real
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  Speaker 1: on this. You think they've ever found the gun that
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  Speaker 1: killed Tupac Shakur, or guns that are related to many
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  Speaker 1: many other agg assault shootings and murders.
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  Speaker 2: No, they've never been recovered. And if they were recovered, unless.
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  Speaker 1: You do a ballistics test, you don't know if it's
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  Speaker 1: the murder weapon or the assault weapon. Why because criminals
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  Speaker 1: scrape off the serial number.
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  Speaker 2: Crime stories with Nancy Greece.
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  Speaker 1: Straight back to Lauren Colin other In addition to all
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  Speaker 1: the weapons, I mean a lot of weapons, what can
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  Speaker 1: you tell tell me about women's shoes with seven inch
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  Speaker 1: platform heels.
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  Speaker 3: And it was pretty wild to see a special agent
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  Speaker 3: hold up seven inch heels in court that just happened
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  Speaker 3: to be pat and leather and red. We saw Balenciaga
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  Speaker 3: boots that had three different cell phones in them, and
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  Speaker 3: then we saw a fourth cell phone in a separate room.
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  Speaker 4: We saw a.
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  Speaker 3: Gucci bag that was filled with a rolled up one
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  Speaker 3: hundred dollars bill. Different types of pills, yellow, orange, pink,
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  Speaker 3: different powders. We saw eye drops and later these drugs
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  Speaker 3: were tested and they were confirmed to be hook ketamine,
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  Speaker 3: an MDMA actually in an eye dropper, and there were
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  Speaker 3: actually three orange tablets they found with Tesla symbols on them,
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  Speaker 3: and oh, we also saw xanax drugs were tested for xanax.
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  Speaker 3: There also was a wooden box in the bathroom they
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  Speaker 3: found and on top of that wooden bar was a
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  Speaker 3: gold inscription that said Puffy. There were mushroom pilled in that,
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  Speaker 3: and then a bag of crystal rocks that turns out
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  Speaker 3: was MDMA no Sidney Sumner.
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  Speaker 1: That reminds me of one of the first times we
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  Speaker 1: heard about a male escort. We heard that one male
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  Speaker 1: sex worker showed up, knocks at the door.
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  Speaker 2: Cassie comes to the door wearing.
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  Speaker 1: Scantily clad laingerie and these heels. I guarantee you it's
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  Speaker 1: not ditty walking around in eight inch platform heels. He
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  Speaker 1: has the women dress up in various outfits and we
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  Speaker 1: see all those heels at his Miami mansion.
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  Speaker 2: Sydney, and we heard.
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  Speaker 5: A similar story from both of the male escorts that
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  Speaker 5: have testified that they believed they were coming for some
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  Speaker 5: kind of bachelorette party. And then this woman opens the door.
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  Speaker 5: She's buying herself except for her purported husband in the
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  Speaker 5: corner of the room, and she's disguised. She's wearing some
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  Speaker 5: kind of lingerete a matching wig, some kind of heels,
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  Speaker 5: and it just doesn't it doesn't make sense the defensive
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  Speaker 5: theory that they're saying that this is all just private
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  Speaker 5: sex matter for Sean Diddy Coulmbs, there is no reason
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  Speaker 5: to own half of the Spencer store. Just keep that
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  Speaker 5: in your home. If that's purely for personal use, where
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  Speaker 5: there's not more than one person involved, you're not having
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  Speaker 5: opious amounts of freak off parties. It just it doesn't crack.
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  Speaker 1: We've heard about a Louis Vuitton bag, a huge Louis
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  Speaker 1: stuffed full of horse trunk, uh, ecstasy, cocaine, pink cocaine,
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  Speaker 1: plan be, birth control appeals, and of course high powered viagra.
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  Speaker 1: Diddy needs his viagra. Okay, I'm gonna have to go
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  Speaker 1: to our shrink. The moment about mushroom peels, crystal rocks
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  Speaker 1: that are MD and A and what effect that has
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  Speaker 1: you know, I'll ask him right now.
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  Speaker 2: Joining me.
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  Speaker 1: Scott Johnson, Forensic Psychologists, thirty three years addressing sex Predators
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  Speaker 1: Forensic Consultation dot org. It's where you can find him,
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  Speaker 1: author of Physical Abusers and Sex Offenders. When I Love
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  Speaker 1: You Turns Violent? That's another book. Scott Johnson, thank you
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  Speaker 1: for being with us.
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  Speaker 2: What is MD in a and what effect does it
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  Speaker 2: have on a person?
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  Speaker 7: All right, So you have the ecstasy basically by the
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  Speaker 7: street name, and you have people that become delusional. It's
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  Speaker 7: difficult to say no. At higher levels. It may cause
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  Speaker 7: a euphoric statement where people are kind of out of
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  Speaker 7: touch with reality, sort of delusional. But it's very difficult
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  Speaker 7: to say no or to resist when you're under the
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  Speaker 7: influence of these medications.
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  Speaker 1: Ecstasy moll a stimulant with psychedelic properties.
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  Speaker 2: That's what it is.
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  Speaker 1: And if you drop it in one of these ladies' drinks,
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  Speaker 1: there's no telling what a thing it is.
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  Speaker 2: Going to have on her.
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  Speaker 1: Lauren Colin very quickly, Laura, I want to ask you
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  Speaker 1: about what happened when we got to Diddy's bathroom of
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  Speaker 1: his mansion that was raided.
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  Speaker 2: The bathrooms.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we got to a bathroom where we
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  Speaker 3: saw two containers and in one container there was twenty
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  Speaker 3: five bottles of baby oil and thirty one bottles of astroglide.
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  Speaker 3: And I actually spotted two rubber duckies, a little bit confusing,
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  Speaker 3: and when they asked a special agent, were there more
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  Speaker 3: baby oil?
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  Speaker 4: That you found.
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  Speaker 3: He said, yes, and there was because we saw a
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  Speaker 3: mini crate of baby oil during his direct testimony the
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  Speaker 3: day before. Now, right around when he was testifying, Diddy's sons,
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  Speaker 3: Justin and Christian walked in and did he turned around.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't smile, but he nodded his head at them.
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  Speaker 1: Is he guilty of all the counts or any of
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  Speaker 1: the counts in this federal indictment?
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  Speaker 2: So far, according to my legal.
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  Speaker 1: Analysis, the charges of sex trafficking have been shown by
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  Speaker 1: not only Cassi Ventura, but another female witness as well.
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  Speaker 1: Transportation of male sex workers across state lines to engage
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  Speaker 1: in prostitution. Yes, now, racketeering is going to have to
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  Speaker 1: be explained to the jury. Racketeering just think about Tony Soprano.
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  Speaker 1: It is a loose confederation of people that engage altogether
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  Speaker 1: to achieve a criminal act. In this criminal conspiracy, the
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  Speaker 1: act would be sex trafficking, bringing people in from various
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  Speaker 1: states to perform prostitution and to force women to engage
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  Speaker 1: in free co offs against their wills. Bam easy. My
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  Speaker 1: question is what woman in her right mind would consent
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  Speaker 1: to have sex with not just a male escort, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people do that, but a convicted killer slash
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  Speaker 1: male escort listen.
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  Speaker 8: At least two of the male escorts Cassie identified it
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  Speaker 8: worked on the Showtime reality series Jiggilows. One is also
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  Speaker 8: a convicted murderer Okshaya Kubiak who uses the name ash
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  Speaker 8: armand beat her lean Doulai to death. Kubiak claimed he
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  Speaker 8: blacked out after taking mushrooms with Duly, one of Kubiak's clients,
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  Speaker 8: and when he woke up the next morning, she was
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  Speaker 8: brutally beaten to death.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna found it in pain. Could have live in pain.
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  Speaker 2: We took mustoms together last night.
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  Speaker 5: They were to struggle subli concerts or breeding. We have
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  Speaker 5: the male.
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  Speaker 6: Detain right now.
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  Speaker 9: Offsters and medical personnel arrived on scene and that female
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  Speaker 9: was pronounced deceased.
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  Speaker 2: This was one of the worst beatings of a person
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  Speaker 2: of a human that I've seen.
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  Speaker 10: The whole situation is what horror movies are made of.
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  Speaker 1: On the mornings a murder, they didn't call nine one
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  Speaker 1: one first, they actually called another jiggleaf that from Paramounts,
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  Speaker 1: Sin City Jigglow. They find the dead body and they
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  Speaker 1: don't call nine one one. They actually call another Jigglow. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know to Rachel Fisher joining us a special guest
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  Speaker 1: joining us. Rachel is an anti trafficking expert featured in
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  Speaker 1: the twenty two documentary Surviving Sex Trafficking. She is a
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  Speaker 1: forensic nurse, a sex assault nurse examiner, an expert witness,
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  Speaker 1: and she is at Legal r inc consult dot org. Rachel,
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  Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. It's one thing to
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  Speaker 1: talk about Diddy dressed up in a Muslim female burka
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  Speaker 1: from the neck up. It's another thing to talk about
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  Speaker 1: this male escorts. Moniker is the punisher, but it's another
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  Speaker 1: thing to force a woman a that would be Cassie Ventura,
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  Speaker 1: and to set with not just a Jigleo, but a
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  Speaker 1: convicted killer Jigglow.
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  Speaker 11: That's the danger of forcing somebody to be involved in
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  Speaker 11: a commercial sex act. Whether you're the recipient or you're
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  Speaker 11: the one performing it and getting paid for it, that's
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  Speaker 11: still a commercial sex act that she was being coerce
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  Speaker 11: and forced into. And you never know who's on the
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  Speaker 11: other end of the call when you click that ad
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  Speaker 11: online to order an escort, because you can get one
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  Speaker 11: faster than you can get a pizza in most places,
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  Speaker 11: and whoever shows up, you don't know their background. It's
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  Speaker 11: a very dangerous career to be in the sex industry,
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  Speaker 11: and many of the people that are there are not
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  Speaker 11: there willingly, and some are, but you never know what
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  Speaker 11: their story is on the other side and what they're
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  Speaker 11: going to come with. That's why we have so many
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  Speaker 11: that are murdered when they're in the sex industry. Or
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  Speaker 11: you get an in call where an escort comes to
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  Speaker 11: you and you get murdered or robbed, and it's a
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  Speaker 11: very dangerous thing that you're forcing somebody to be a
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  Speaker 11: part of. There are multiple people involved, and so all
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  Speaker 11: of those people become part of that scheme.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder what ed bd didy he is feeling and
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  Speaker 1: thinking right now in a courtroom as a Homeland Security
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  Speaker 1: special agent describes everything that was found in his mansion
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  Speaker 1: that was rated, crates of baby oil as to glide.
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  Speaker 2: That's not against the law.
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  Speaker 1: What I care about are the federal counts in that
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  Speaker 1: federal indictment.
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  Speaker 12: Former assistant David James testifies that Combs was occasionally violent
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  Speaker 12: with private chef Jordan Atkinson. According to James, after an
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  Speaker 12: altercation at his Alpine, New Jersey home, Combs instructed him
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  Speaker 12: to file a police report stating Atkinson was the aggressor
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  Speaker 12: and hit him first. James, who witnessed the altercation, says
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  Speaker 12: he simply drove around Alpine for roughly an hour before
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  Speaker 12: returning and telling Combs it was filed. James says he
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  Speaker 12: didn't want to comply with Combs's request because he did
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  Speaker 12: not want to file a false report.
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  Speaker 1: Sidney Summer joining me investigative reporter, Crime Stories. Sidney explained
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  Speaker 1: to me, Am I getting this correct. The former assistant
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  Speaker 1: David James described an incident where Sean Combs allegedly attacked
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  Speaker 1: a female chef, but then wanted James to go file
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  Speaker 1: a police report, stating it was the other way around,
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  Speaker 1: but James didn't do it.
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  Speaker 5: That's absolutely correct. James said that Comb's and this chef
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  Speaker 5: got into an altercation, and Combs, immediately after it ended
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  Speaker 5: team to James and asked him, look, let's go to
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  Speaker 5: the cops. Let's file a police report, but make sure
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  Speaker 5: it says that she attacked she hit me first, she
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  Speaker 5: was the aggressor. And James kind of did his Okay, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'll do that, and he got into a car and
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  Speaker 5: just drove around for about an hour before returning home
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  Speaker 5: and saying, yeah, filed it. It's in there. They'll contact
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  Speaker 5: me if they need anything else from us. And the
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  Speaker 5: whole time he never spoke to a police officer about
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  Speaker 5: it because he didn't want to.
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  Speaker 2: You know, is probed of about this Sydney.
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  Speaker 1: This right here, here we have Rob Shooter Seawn Combs
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  Speaker 1: beating the stew out of Cassie Venture. She's holding her
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  Speaker 1: her little left hand to fight him off, and they're
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  Speaker 1: going to argue, according to gia Ghos, And of course
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  Speaker 1: this could change, just like the defense in Scott Peterson
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  Speaker 1: changed from a satanic cult took Lacey to burglars took Lacy.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it changed over time.
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  Speaker 1: So at one point gia Ghost let it slip that
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  Speaker 1: the argument to defeat this video is that Cassie ninety
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  Speaker 1: pound Cassie is the aggressor here. She's the one giving
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  Speaker 1: him the booty beating over text from another woman. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: she's the aggressor. Same thing with the chef, see what
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying. The connection, So apparently that's his modus operandi,
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  Speaker 1: method of operation.
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  Speaker 2: He attacks the woman according to evidence and.
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  Speaker 1: Then says she's the aggress Did he ever take responsibility
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  Speaker 1: for anything, Rob Shooter.
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  Speaker 13: He took responsibility when everything went well, When things were
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  Speaker 13: going good, it was because of him. When things were
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  Speaker 13: not going well, it was because of everybody else. But
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  Speaker 13: this video here, Nancy, this is the case. To me,
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  Speaker 13: this video changes everything. And there's some irony that a
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  Speaker 13: man who has spent his whole life putting out images,
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  Speaker 13: videos to make him into the star he is is ultimately,
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  Speaker 13: I believe, going to be brought down because of this video.
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  Speaker 13: That is something that is going to be in the
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  Speaker 13: jury's mind. And the excuses are just excuses.
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  Speaker 1: You just stated that Cove spent an entire lifetime curating
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  Speaker 1: an image through video and photos like what image.
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  Speaker 13: Let me give you examples of this. There were images
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  Speaker 13: to make him look powerful, images to make him look important,
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  Speaker 13: images to make him look literally like a king. I
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  Speaker 13: got Diddy was People Magazine's Sexiest Men Alive issue. He
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  Speaker 13: wanted the cover. He did not get that, but he
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  Speaker 13: was in the issue and he shot it as if
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  Speaker 13: he was a king. He asked at the photoshoot if
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  Speaker 13: he could have a crown on his head, if he
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  Speaker 13: could have a coat of fur coat, and he knew
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  Speaker 13: the power of images. I remember distinctly he once said
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  Speaker 13: to me, Rob, the story doesn't matter. The headline and
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  Speaker 13: the photograph is all anybody remembers. He knew the power
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  Speaker 13: of media, he knew the power of video, and he
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  Speaker 13: exploited it. And now it's going to bite him in
• 19:37
  Speaker 13: the bum.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Straight out to sydney' sumner, Crime Story's investigative reporter who
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: has been on the case from the beginning and has
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: been analyzing Cassy Ventiro's testimony. Sidney, the high points of
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Cassy Venturo's testimony, explain Nija.
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: I think the high point of Cassy's testimony is that
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: Dinny was in control of many aspects of her life.
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: So she meets Comb at just nineteen years old. Their
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: relationship begins when she's just about twenty one, and she
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: talks about not even wanting to kiss Sean Combs. So
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: the first time that they shared a kiss, they weren't
• 20:15
  Speaker 5: a couple at this point, the first time he showed
• 20:17
  Speaker 5: romantic interest in her without her twenty first birthday party
• 20:21
  Speaker 5: in Las Vegas, and Kathy admits that the kids left
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: her feeling extremely confused. She ran from her party in tears,
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: not sure what to do with that as a new
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: artist in the industry. So their relationship starting on that
• 20:36
  Speaker 5: point and going from there, com just continued to take
• 20:40
  Speaker 5: more and more control of her life and he was
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: always there. Like she didn't pick up the song, he
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: would call her over and over until she did, or
• 20:49
  Speaker 5: he would send security guards to come find her. So,
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: on top of the freak offs, which seems to be
• 20:56
  Speaker 5: just a segment of their relationship, equal worse her into
• 21:00
  Speaker 5: anything in everything, she didn't feel like she had an
• 21:04
  Speaker 5: ability to say no to Combs, especially with the violence.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: In the threats of releasing these videos, Ventura talks about
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: keeping broken iPhones and broken laptops and things of that
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: nature because she was so worried about what was on
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: them if anyone was to get their hands on them.
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: Speaking of a laptop incident earlier on we heard from
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: witness Philip Listen.
• 21:31
  Speaker 14: Philip describes one evening where Ventura was at the computer
• 21:35
  Speaker 14: during a break in sex Colms yelled for his girlfriend
• 21:38
  Speaker 14: to come to him, and when she did not, Calms
• 21:41
  Speaker 14: through a bottle of liquoric Cassie that shattered against the
• 21:44
  Speaker 14: wall after missing her head by inches. Philip says, Colmbs
• 21:48
  Speaker 14: then dragged Ventura to another room, and he overheard what
• 21:52
  Speaker 14: sounded like a smack, then Combs saying, when I tell
• 21:55
  Speaker 14: you to come here, you come here now, not later.
• 21:58
  Speaker 14: Moments later, the couple rear merged and Combs demanded they resume.
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: Joining us is Rob Shooter, publicist for Sean Combs.
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: Rob thank you for being with us, also star of
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Naughty but Nice podcast and author of the fore word answer,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: you have a particular insight into another relationship, if it
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: could be called that of Combs, which preceded Cassie Ventura
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: is basically a blueprint second verse same as the first,
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: and that would be Kim Porter, the mother of his
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: children now dead. Rob Shooter describe Combs his relationship with
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: miss Porter.
• 22:42
  Speaker 13: Puff's relationship with Kim was very much the same relationship
• 22:47
  Speaker 13: he had with Cassie. In fact, some people called Cassie
• 22:51
  Speaker 13: Kim two point zero. They had seen this method, they
• 22:56
  Speaker 13: had seen this relationship, they had seen this brooming, and
• 23:00
  Speaker 13: so Kim was shy bef what she was told.
• 23:03
  Speaker 6: Was very much on his arm.
• 23:05
  Speaker 13: He didn't like her to talk very much. He picked
• 23:07
  Speaker 13: the clothes that he would wear, he would decide the
• 23:10
  Speaker 13: events that she would go to.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Cassie seems to be doing.
• 23:14
  Speaker 13: That too, or have done that too. The difference though,
• 23:17
  Speaker 13: is that Kim didn't want to be a recording artist.
• 23:21
  Speaker 13: Cassie really did. She wanted to bake it brig in
• 23:26
  Speaker 13: show business. She wanted to record songs, and so my
• 23:30
  Speaker 13: heart breaks for her because she was not only in
• 23:34
  Speaker 13: debt to Diddy in her personal life, but also her
• 23:38
  Speaker 13: professional life, which must be made impossible, almost impossible for
• 23:43
  Speaker 13: her to get away.
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: From Special Guest joining me.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Brett Brown, executive director, s ASS Surviving Assault, Standing Strong.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: You know, it's the same old thing, it's not a
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: new story. And to try to explain why.
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: Women stay, I mean a woman's face with losing her home,
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: losing her career, maybe losing her children, being blackballed in
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the industry, What would you do? What would you not
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: do to ensure those things don't happen?
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: What about it? Brett?
• 24:18
  Speaker 15: Well, I think it's everything that you just said. The
• 24:20
  Speaker 15: part that we're kind of missing is the beginning and
• 24:23
  Speaker 15: the end. You know, these women they want to be
• 24:26
  Speaker 15: seen and they want to be respected, and they want
• 24:28
  Speaker 15: to achieve, and those desires get used against them in
• 24:31
  Speaker 15: this power imbalance and so whether we're talking about Harvey
• 24:34
  Speaker 15: Weinstein or we're talking about Sean Comb's, the recipe is
• 24:38
  Speaker 15: still the same. And once they're on the hook with
• 24:40
  Speaker 15: these powerful men, then become you enters. The threats and
• 24:45
  Speaker 15: the violence and the force, and so fear and financial
• 24:49
  Speaker 15: insecurity and so many other things start to play in.
• 24:52
  Speaker 15: And so it's not a matter if I keep going
• 24:54
  Speaker 15: so I can get something. These women have to stay
• 24:57
  Speaker 15: in this situation in order to stay alive. And it's
• 25:00
  Speaker 15: interesting to me because Sean comes, like any abuser, has
• 25:04
  Speaker 15: spent an enormous amount of time on his reputation and
• 25:07
  Speaker 15: on his look to make sure that he seems like
• 25:09
  Speaker 15: the fun guy next door. And here is this predator
• 25:12
  Speaker 15: sitting in a courtroom with a Bible. And I just
• 25:15
  Speaker 15: wanted to say that even Satan quoted scripture in the Bible,
• 25:19
  Speaker 15: and at the end of the day, he was still
• 25:21
  Speaker 15: the devil.
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Lauren Colin an investigative reporter and start a pop Crime TV.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Lauren, thank you for being with us. What happened in.
• 25:28
  Speaker 4: Courty saw Kid Cutty testify and it was fairly quick.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: It took a portion of the morning, and during opening statements,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: the prosecutors gave us a little bit of a taste
• 25:40
  Speaker 3: about this break in that involved Ditty, an assistant and
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: one of his associates. Well, when kid Cutty aka Scott
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: Mescadi took the stand, it turns out that Ditty was
• 25:51
  Speaker 3: the one that broke into his house kidnapped one of
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: his employees. Capricorn Clark with an associate went over there
• 25:59
  Speaker 3: looking for Cat And this was after Seawan Colmes found
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: out about this relationship that was going on between hit
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Cutty and Cassie.
• 26:07
  Speaker 4: And look, kid Cutty said he was a little confused.
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: Cassie had told him that she and Sean Colmes were
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: broken up. You know, they were on again, off again.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: So when he got this call from Cassie where she
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: was very very upset and alarmed. This was in twenty eleven,
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: he went to pick her up. He took her to
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: a hotel and it turns out she gave Sean Colmes
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: kid Cutty's address. This came out that was a little confusing.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: So Kid Cutty finds out that Seawan Colmes is at
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: his house because Capricorn Clark, the assistant, calls him and
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: Cassie from the driveway in the car very scared and says, look,
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Colmes is in the house. Now, kid Cutty gets very upset.
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: He says he's going over there. So he drives over there,
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: and he says that he calls Seawan Colmes and he says, hey, mother, effer,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: why are you in my house? And Ditty says something
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: like I just want to talk now. When he gets
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: to the house, Ditty's no longer there. He notices that,
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: you know, nothing is broken, nothing is out of place,
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: but he did have some Christmas presents for his family
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: in chanel boxes. Those were unwrapped on the kitchen table,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: and his dog was locked in a bathroom. He also
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: noted that the surveillance cameras outside his house appeared.
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: To be pointed down. Now, after this, you know, he leaves.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: He sees that he's getting text messages from Colms, and
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: he thinks to himself, Okay, I don't really know if
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I want to get involved here, because who knows if
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: he has weapons whatever. So he actually calls the police
• 27:42
  Speaker 3: and files a police report. Now we've discussed this. It's
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: December of twenty eleven. Kid Cutty and Cassie go to
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: Cassie's family home in Connecticut for the holidays. Sean Colmes
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: still is texting Kid Cutty, you know, trying to talk
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: to him, trying to to you know, get a meeting
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: with him, and Cuddy ignores him, and then Cassie ends
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: up breaking up with him. On his trip, he returns
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: back to la and a month later, it's January twenty twelve.
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: He is about forty five minutes away from his house.
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: Kid Cutty and his doll babysitter calls him and says,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: your car is on fire in the driveway. A Molotov
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: cocktail has somehow been thrown in the car. We then
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: see pictures of the car. The roof is broken in
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: or sunken in with a hole in it. The inside
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: is all charred. He calls the police, files the police report,
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: and then a few days later he says.
• 28:37
  Speaker 4: Okay, you know that's it.
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: I'm contacting Combs or we're going to work this out.
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: So they have a meeting at the La Soho house.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: He describes d Rock, the security guard that we've heard
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: about multiple times, ushering him into this room, and this
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: got a lot of laughed Nancy. He described Combs as
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: facing this big window in the room with his back
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: towards him his hands behind his back, and he actually
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: said he looked like a Marvel super villain. So he
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: said also that Ditty's demeanor was so calm that it
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: was almost bizarre. He offered him water twice, you know,
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: and and they seemed to work it out. And then
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: at the end of the conversation and Cassie joined later
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: by the way, and at the end of the conversation,
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Cutty says they shook hands and while their hands.
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Were clasped, he said, well, what about my car?
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: And Diddy basically was like, I don't know anything about
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: your car, and they let their hands go, and then
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: you know, they kind of walked out and that was that.
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: And he said he hadn't seen him until a few
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: years later he saw him again at the Soho house,
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: and this time Diddy was with his two daughters, and
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: he apologized to Kit Cutty and said, look, I'm sorry
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: for everything that's that happened, anything that went on between us,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: but Nancy. When Brian Steele got up to do the
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: cross examination, he pointed out a couple of things, as
• 30:01
  Speaker 3: that's his job. But he pointed out that during the
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: break in kid Cutty's door, there's no damage to it,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: the door was wide open and anybody walked in. He
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: also pointed out that there were DNA or fingerprints pulled
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: from the investigation into the car blow up, and those
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: that DNA was actually it belonged to a female.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, let me understand something.
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: So one month later, after the whole Cassie Ventura relationship
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: blows up, one month later, Kid Cutty's car is bombed
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: with a molotov? So isn't it true that Shawn Combs
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: had discussed blowing up his car?
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: Yes, Cassie, this is through Cassie.
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: She said that this was discussed and he was going
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: to do it when one of Kid Cutty's friends were present.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: So Shawn Combs's fingerprints and DNA were not on the
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: car that was blown up with a molotov?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: One month after? Did he threaten to blow it up? Okay? Sorry,
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: not impressed.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, do you really think Shawn Colmbs Diddy was
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: going to run down to the sip Go or the
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Valero would pump his own gas into a container and
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: make his own molotov? I mean, he didn't even clean
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: up his own disgusting hotel rooms that were covered with
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: a baby oil slick he made somebody else do it,
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: so of course his DNA isn't there. Why is it important?
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Because that is what a criminal enterprise is. Now we
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: see former assistant George Kaplan on the stand. Now talk
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: about an unindicted co conspirator.
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: That would be him. Listen.
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: Assistant George Kaplan says he was sent to pick up
• 31:50
  Speaker 8: drugs for his famous boss. Kaplin says Sean Combs gave
• 31:54
  Speaker 8: him cash and a phone.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Number to call. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace.
• 32:08
  Speaker 8: Assistant George Kaplan says he was sent to pick up
• 32:11
  Speaker 8: drugs for his famous boss. Caplin says Shawn Combs gave
• 32:15
  Speaker 8: him cash and a phone number to.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: Call so Shawn Combs could talk a grown man into
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: going and buying his drugs for him.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: No wonder this went down in the courtroom.
• 32:28
  Speaker 12: Listen, did He's former assistant George Kaplan takes the stand.
• 32:31
  Speaker 12: Kaplan tells the judge he is only here because of
• 32:34
  Speaker 12: a subpoena and he plans to invoke his Fifth Amendment right.
• 32:36
  Speaker 12: Judge Supermany in grants Kaplin immunity. The deal does not
• 32:40
  Speaker 12: cover perjury.
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: You see a little snippet of all the drugs seized
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: at Shawn Comb's mansion. Now we know that Frank Black
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: was a name, a pseudonym used to check Shaan Comb's
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: in and out of hotel rooms, also used to get
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: fake prescriptions, which is illegal. You think that Shawn comes
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: rolled up in his SUV to the CVS or the
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: Dwayne Read or the Walgreens and got his own stuff.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: No, uh huh, there had to be a minion, Troy Slayton.
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Shawn Holmes convinced Kaplan to perform crimes for him buying drugs,
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: get illegal drugs such as MDMA. Also convinced him to
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: get prescription drugs under a fake name, where Slatin also
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: a crime. So now he is talking his minion into
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: buying his astroglide, lubricant, his baby oil, his candles, his liquor,
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: all of that and importantly critically using the company credit
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: card choice Layton.
• 34:02
  Speaker 9: Well buy an astro glide, although it may sound gross
• 34:07
  Speaker 9: in this situations not illegal. Buying drugs yes, illegal, but
• 34:12
  Speaker 9: that doesn't make a Rico case. The government still has
• 34:15
  Speaker 9: to prove that the purchasing the drugs was to advance
• 34:21
  Speaker 9: the criminal enterprise, was to advance his business interest, his
• 34:26
  Speaker 9: legitimate business interests he had.
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: You think Dandy took all those drugs himself. No, that
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: was being dropped in the woman's drinks.
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: I mean you need to go.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Back to law school, man and take a refresher course
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: on rico. Rico is anything any act that advances a crime,
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: and the crimes have to be laid out in the indictment.
• 34:46
  Speaker 2: Which they are. I've already read them to you. I'll
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: read them again. Sex trapping, for labor, kidnapping, arson stressing.
• 34:55
  Speaker 9: Those are all terrible things, but that doesn't make rico.
• 34:59
  Speaker 9: You have to prove what are you.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Saying Diddy was using all those drugs for. He'd be
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: dead if he took them all. He was feeding them
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: to these women in their drinks. What do you think
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: the astrog line the baby oles for for a free
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: off according to these women against their will and bringing
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: in mal sex workers from another state that is against
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the law recoverent.
• 35:21
  Speaker 9: That would be that sex trafficking. So we're we're mixing
• 35:24
  Speaker 9: up two different things there, Nancy, you know that those
• 35:26
  Speaker 9: are separate them.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: Yes, you're the one that said asked why i'd I
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with it. It has everything to
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: do with it, just like the.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Baby oil.
• 35:37
  Speaker 9: Just because somebody is having a rock star is having
• 35:41
  Speaker 9: a drug fueled party, doesn't mean that they're guilty of rico.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: To doctor Bethany Marshall, that video of the literally a
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Dixie dumpster going down the hallway of the hotel, Doctor Bethany,
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: how do you convince grown men and women to do
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: your illegal bidding and clean up your bodily fluids, your spink, Nancy,
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: your baby oil, your astro glide if they do.
• 36:08
  Speaker 16: It, all of it, Nancy. Probably what he did is
• 36:11
  Speaker 16: he started out being super charming with them, pretending to
• 36:14
  Speaker 16: be their friend, buying them gifts, pretending to advance their
• 36:18
  Speaker 16: interests in some way, and once he gained their trust,
• 36:22
  Speaker 16: he would send them out on some criminal act. Once
• 36:25
  Speaker 16: they committed the criminal act, now they were stuck and
• 36:28
  Speaker 16: could not get away.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: Isn't it true City Summer, That sworn testimony is that
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Shawn Colmes tried to bribe a security guy.
• 36:38
  Speaker 5: That's correct, Nancy. He tried to hand this security guard
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: a stack of money as big as his hand to
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: leave them alone and to just drop the whole situation
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: and not get Cassie Ventura out of that Intercontinental Hotel room.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: So Tom Smith, former NYPD, star of Goalshields podcast, Tom Smith.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: I guess it's just a did world and we all
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: live in it.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: Because all these people are so afraid or have their
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: careers at stake, they go along with it. It will
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: be a cold day in hubl that I would go
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: clean up somebody else's bodily fluids unless my children threw up.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: It's not gonna happen. But all these people just went
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: along to get along, yep.
• 37:20
  Speaker 10: And its influence and it's his power that controlled them.
• 37:24
  Speaker 10: What can he do for them in the future, How
• 37:27
  Speaker 10: can he propel their jobs, their careers anything like that.
• 37:32
  Speaker 10: That all is involved in this power trip that he
• 37:35
  Speaker 10: was on. And like you know, Nancy, once you get
• 37:37
  Speaker 10: away with it a little bit, you keep pushing the
• 37:40
  Speaker 10: envelope to the next level, to the next level.
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: Right now, Shawn Combs in a federal courthouse being charged
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: and being tried for.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: A multi count federal indictment.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: And what Rico means, which is the major prize for
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the state, is that Shawn Combs headed up a criminal
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: enterprise involving many many crimes including arson, blowing up Kid
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: Cuddy's cawn.
• 38:06
  Speaker 2: You hear that Troy Slayton, it's the death nail. It's
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: the death nail.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: Kid Cutty's testimony, and the testimony of all these other assistants,
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: the nail and the coffin the death nail.
• 38:20
  Speaker 9: For Diddy, it might be Nancy, but the government is
• 38:23
  Speaker 9: still going to have to weave together all these disparate
• 38:27
  Speaker 9: dots and tie it together to show that this was
• 38:30
  Speaker 9: an overarching grand conspiracy to further a criminal enterprise. And
• 38:37
  Speaker 9: I think we're going to hear a lot from Diddy's
• 38:40
  Speaker 9: attorneys when it comes time for his defense to put
• 38:43
  Speaker 9: on their presentation.
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Well, you're right, Slayton. I don't know what they've got
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: up their sleeves, but you're absolutely right. In the state
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: better be ready. Thank you to our guest, but especially
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: to you for being with us, Nancy gray soning Off,
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: good night, friend,