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Ep. 360 - House / Hausu (1977) · Frightmares

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Speaker 1: The following podcast will contain spoilers, tangents, hot takes, and
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Speaker 1: excessive foul language.
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Speaker 2: Viewer discretion is advised.
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Speaker 1: Enjoy the show.
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Speaker 2: Welcome back to Frimares podcast. All Right, Gabby is dying?
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Speaker 1: Sorry?
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Speaker 2: What an intro?
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Speaker 1: I don't know why this flavor of crystal light occasionally
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Speaker 1: tries to choke me to day?
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Speaker 2: Should I start over? Just keep it in it? Okay,
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Speaker 2: leave it in. I'm your host, Austin Proctor and joining
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Speaker 2: me today fighting for her life. For episode three sixty
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Speaker 2: is my wife, Gabrielle Procter. Hey, hey, I wait, you're done.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm good.
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Speaker 2: Today, on another installment of Contuary Manner, we're discussing our
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Speaker 2: international pick for the month, House or House su from
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Speaker 2: nineteen seventy seven, a movie where a house drops asset,
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Speaker 2: eats crayons, and decides logic is optional.
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Speaker 3: Nice.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's good stuff. I also am gonna put this
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Speaker 2: in the episode title. It's gonna be house slash House Sue,
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Speaker 2: just because there is another movie from nineteen eighty four.
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Speaker 2: I believe that's just explaining to people.
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Speaker 1: Oh I thought you were telling me, no, no.
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Speaker 2: No, I'm just I'm just I know I know most
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Speaker 2: people are if you're aware of House Su then but
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just address it as House Su because that's
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Speaker 2: the original title. But yeah, there's a nineteen eighty four film,
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Speaker 2: and there's four movies in that franchise, if you want
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Speaker 2: to call it that Cault House, So this is the
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Speaker 2: Japanese one, right, Yes, Yes, I also forgot to mention
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Speaker 2: I've picked movies from different decades, so every month will
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Speaker 2: not only have a different category like Essential, Deep Cut, International,
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Speaker 2: wild Card, and Modern, but we have, like I said,
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Speaker 2: I have different decades for each pick as well. Oh
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Speaker 2: and also the modern picks are going to be twenty
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Speaker 2: twenty and above. I know technically modern would be like
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Speaker 2: the twenty first century, so two thousand and up, but
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Speaker 2: we're doing modern like the last five years. So that's
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Speaker 2: all the things I think I forgot to mention. I'm
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Speaker 2: also wearing these really weird headphones right now because I
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Speaker 2: forgot mine in my mom's car because I got back
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Speaker 2: from Wisconsin over the weekend and I left me in there,
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Speaker 2: And now I'm wearing these bright blue fucking just Those are.
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Speaker 1: My airplane headphones. Those are the ones I specifically keep
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Speaker 1: so I can watch movies on airplanes.
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Speaker 2: Yep, so here we are. But anyways, let's see where
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Speaker 2: this lands on the nightmare index. All right, recently watched
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Speaker 2: I'm coming in hot with some with some not even
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Speaker 2: a hot take. I don't think at this point on
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Speaker 2: what I've recently watched. But while I was gone over
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Speaker 2: the weekend, is you happen to see or watch anything interesting?
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Speaker 1: Oh?
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Speaker 2: Boy, God, here we go.
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Speaker 1: You're never gonna believe the onslaught of films I watched
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Speaker 1: while you were gone and I was here with our child.
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Speaker 2: I guess what day did you leave? Saturday? The last Saturday.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Okay, so I'm just gonna start back here. Uh in
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Speaker 1: canto Luca, Ron's Gone Wrong, Sonic the Hedgehog Wreck It, Ralph, oh,
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Speaker 1: and also Luca, but also Ron's Gone Wrong.
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Speaker 2: Ron's Gone Wrong. I don't I don't like I don't
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Speaker 2: like that title.
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Speaker 1: But however, uh so, I watched a lot of kids movies.
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Speaker 1: Ron's Gone Wrong is horror if you're a parent who
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Speaker 1: is concerned about their kids getting too much screen time,
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Speaker 1: but in a really nice like they're aware it's a
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Speaker 1: problem and they're making commentary kind of way. But the
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Speaker 1: idea of the robots in the movie horrifying. I'm watching it,
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Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I would never.
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Speaker 2: I would never.
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Speaker 1: But also, as you know, I am doing my rewatch
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Speaker 1: of Malcolm in the Middle. I'm on the last season
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Speaker 1: because apparently Malcolm in the Middle is the one show
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Speaker 1: I can burn through at lightning speed in preparation for
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Speaker 1: the four episode. And it's not a reboot, it's.
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Speaker 2: What do you call that when a show comes back.
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Speaker 1: For like four episodes revival? It's like a brief little
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Speaker 1: four episode thing like It's Life Still Unfair, where they
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Speaker 1: get most of the original cast back. So I've been
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Speaker 1: getting prepped for that because I absolutely love that show.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's what you did.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you've noticed I've been watching it as
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Speaker 1: I cackle extremely loudly while watching it.
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Speaker 2: Uh No, I don't hear that five or seven times
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Speaker 2: every hour at all.
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Speaker 1: What do you mean, Brian krist is funny? I don't
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Speaker 1: know what you want.
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Speaker 2: From me less laughing, I don't know, be sure having
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Speaker 2: a good time. So some stuff I've recently watched I have.
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Speaker 2: So I went to go visit my buddy, you know,
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Speaker 2: Michael Virus. He's on the show a lot. He does
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Speaker 2: the Shameless Pictures show as well. Went to see him
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Speaker 2: in Wisconsin for the weekend. We watched a lot of stuff,
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Speaker 2: but he's gonna be on an episode very soon, so
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna save a couple of those things that we
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Speaker 2: specifically watched together for that episode. Plus, I don't really
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Speaker 2: want to talk about the Testament of Anley. We just
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Speaker 2: need to go watch that, because that was a wild
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Speaker 2: fucking movie. I will say that I did see it
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Speaker 2: in seventy milimeter in one of the most gorgeous theaters
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Speaker 2: probably in America. Probably, I don't know. It's the most
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Speaker 2: beautiful theater I've ever been in, The Oriental in downtown Milwaukee,
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Speaker 2: I believe. And we also saw no it was.
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Speaker 1: In downtown Milwaukee. I was not looking at your location
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Speaker 1: at all. Nope.
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Speaker 2: And we also watched No Other Choice as well, the
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Speaker 2: new Park Chan Wook movie. But I will save those
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Speaker 2: for Michael's episode, which is in like two weeks. You
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Speaker 2: and I, though, although we didn't finish it, I had
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Speaker 2: to finish it on the plane because it was a
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Speaker 2: chaotic week. Even getting to Wisconsin. You and I watched
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Speaker 2: The Hutsucker Proxy, which oh my god, one of the
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Speaker 2: wildest movies I've ever seen. Not a horror movie by
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Speaker 2: any means, unless you consider corporate greed, Like the real
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Speaker 2: monster here is corporate greed, you know, for the kids,
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Speaker 2: you know, for the kids. So I had to I
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Speaker 2: think we had about thirty minutes left that I finished
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Speaker 2: on the plane. I'm not gonna spoil it, but what
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Speaker 2: a fucking ending that was. Oh my god, I never
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Speaker 2: saw any of that coming.
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Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing I told you when I watched it.
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Speaker 1: I had watched it myself back I think when you
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Speaker 1: learn rehab, I watched it probably and I was like, rude,
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Speaker 1: we have to watch this. There's no proper way to
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Speaker 1: describe this movie. It has calls to other films, but
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Speaker 1: I couldn't name one of those films. And I also
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Speaker 1: can't describe what's happening in this movie. It is something
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Speaker 1: you just have to watch and take the ride, and
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Speaker 1: you will be very pleased you did.
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Speaker 2: So yeah and so good.
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Speaker 1: I just can't describe it. Much like the movie we're
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Speaker 1: talking about today.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why I wanted to bring up Hutsucker Proxies,
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Speaker 2: because much like HOWSU, it's a movie I can't describe
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Speaker 2: to you. I can give you the basic plot for sure,
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Speaker 2: but even naturally not gonna do you much. You base.
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Speaker 2: You basically said, you told me that I had a
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Speaker 2: three seven and Tim Robbins was in it, and I said,
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Speaker 2: that's all the information I need to watch it. So
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Speaker 2: it was a very easy sell for something I've a
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Speaker 2: never heard of and b knew absolutely nothing about. So
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Speaker 2: that was a really good one. Oh oh, of course
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Speaker 2: now it's on fucking tub. Had to rent it without failure.
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Speaker 2: Not mad that I rented it, but annoying.
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Speaker 1: Without fail every time.
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Speaker 2: So my review for that is the Circle Explanation might
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Speaker 2: be the wildest reveal in cinematic history. You will not
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Speaker 2: be prepared, and it's funny because man, I'll tell you later.
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Speaker 2: I don't want to spoil anything.
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Speaker 1: Uh, the less you know about it, the better. Just
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Speaker 1: go into it. Know that it's a wholly unique film
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Speaker 1: while not feeling extremely foreign to your film history most likely.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's fair. I did see twenty eight years later
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Speaker 2: The Bone Temple, which has a shockingly higher score than
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Speaker 2: twenty eight and it's still holding strong than twenty eight
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Speaker 2: years later, holding strong at a four point zero out
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Speaker 2: of five, which is honestly bonkers. I didn't expect this
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Speaker 2: trilogy or plan trilogy to hit as good as it is.
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Speaker 2: It's just kind of crazy. I liked it. I thought
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Speaker 2: it was good, visually pleasing. It went a lot of
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Speaker 2: different ways than I was expecting, but I didn't really
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Speaker 2: know what to expect, you know, I was going into
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Speaker 2: it like I thought it was going to be a prequel.
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Speaker 2: Weirdly enough, I don't know why, especially with the way
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Speaker 2: twenty eight years Later ended and how they set it up.
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Speaker 2: But you know, it's a pretty much a direct sequel,
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Speaker 2: and I don't know. I just don't I don't know.
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Speaker 2: Maybe I'm missing something. I was also in a terrible
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Speaker 2: mood that night because I was going back and forth
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Speaker 2: on Wisconsin because of you know, the whole health thing
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Speaker 2: that's going on right now, and so maybe I was
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Speaker 2: in the wrong headspace. I can tell you though. It
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Speaker 2: was asthetically pleasing. What's his face? Ralph Finds absolutely incredible,
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Speaker 2: Jack O'Connell amazing. They were great, and I really enjoyed it.
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Speaker 2: There was a lot of cool imagery, but something, I
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Speaker 2: don't know, something was just missing twenty eight years later
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Speaker 2: for me, just it was It was one of my
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Speaker 2: favorites of last year, and I knew it was going
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Speaker 2: to be hard to match that, at least for me.
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Speaker 2: Apparently it's like Smile and Smile Too. Everyone was like, yeah,
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Speaker 2: Smile was okay or good, and then people love Smile too.
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Speaker 2: I feel like that's where I'm at with this one again.
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Speaker 2: I really loved twenty eight years Later and this one.
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Speaker 2: I gave it a four. But I'm just I guess
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Speaker 2: I'm not. I don't know. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll find out when you have me watch it.
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Speaker 3: Inevitably, Yes, inevitably.
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Speaker 2: So that was a good one. I also watched Let's
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Speaker 2: see Oh yes, the Cult Movie Challenge Week three. I
10:25
Speaker 2: have to bring that up because that's the thing I'm
10:26
Speaker 2: doing every week. This week was and I'm technically a
10:30
Speaker 2: week behind, but just stay with me here. It was
10:33
Speaker 2: Vigilante week and each prompt that Michelle, the host has
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Speaker 2: for each week, had a list a letterbox list that
10:44
Speaker 2: you could click on to get movie ideas. And I
10:47
Speaker 2: saw I spit on your grave there and I said, Okay,
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Speaker 2: this is the time to watch it. I've been avoiding
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Speaker 2: this movie for obvious reasons and I you know, I
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Speaker 2: owned it because I was like, I saw it somewhere
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Speaker 2: and I bought it for cheap, and I was like,
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Speaker 2: I'm just gonna watch this at some point, and I did,
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I don't know what the fuck I'm
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Speaker 2: supposed to do with this movie. I knew the content
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Speaker 2: that was in it. It is a rape revenge film,
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Speaker 2: so I knew that part of the movie, this sexual assaults,
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Speaker 2: was not going to be pleasant. So I was already
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Speaker 2: expecting that, and I figured, Hey, the revenge part probably
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Speaker 2: going to be pretty pretty awesome. It's you know, nineteen
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Speaker 2: seventy two or seventy three, probably going to be some good,
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Speaker 2: good practical effects. It's going to be this whole woman
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Speaker 2: in power moment. It was the most unsatisfying revenge story
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Speaker 2: I have ever watched in my life. And like I
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Speaker 2: told you, hopefully I'm using this phrase correctly. The ends
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Speaker 2: did not justify the means whatsoever. They start to the
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Speaker 2: you know, the whole sexual assault thing about twenty four
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Speaker 2: minutes into the movie, and by the time the revenge
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Speaker 2: starts taking place, we're about an hour and ten minutes
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Speaker 2: in to an hour and forty minute movie. Yep, just
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Speaker 2: it the The revenged portion of the movie made me
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Speaker 2: angrier than the sexual assault part of the movie, which
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Speaker 2: is wild to me. That's crazy because the choices she
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Speaker 2: was making and what was happening, and it just it
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Speaker 2: was it. I was like, man, these this should have
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Speaker 2: been way more brutal than what it was. Apparently. Also,
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Speaker 2: everyone just forgot how to swim in this movie. There
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Speaker 2: were two instances where people could have gotten away by
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Speaker 2: swimming and they're sitting there, you know, one of them
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Speaker 2: was sitting there waiting, and I'm like, just swim away,
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Speaker 2: I can see the shore. I don't know. This movie
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Speaker 2: just made me violently angry, and again not for the
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Speaker 2: part that it should have. But I guess it's because
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Speaker 2: I was expecting it. I'm not even gonna recommend this
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Speaker 2: one shocker. I'm already not a fan of sexual assault
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Speaker 2: in movies. The only time I am quote unquote okay
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Speaker 2: with it is if it is integral to the plot,
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Speaker 2: and you know, in a sense like this it is.
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Speaker 2: Although I still don't know why movies like this even
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Speaker 2: have to exist. One star. I mean never again selling
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Speaker 2: that copy immediately, don't need it, don't I'm never gonna
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Speaker 2: watch it. Again, it was an utter way of time.
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Speaker 2: I guess I did this to myself, so I only
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Speaker 2: have me to blame. But I was kind of hoping
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Speaker 2: that the revenge portion would heavily outweigh all of the
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Speaker 2: atrocities that were before it, and it just made me
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Speaker 2: so mad. So not gonna recommend that one at all.
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Speaker 2: I believe that's all I have for recently watched. Is
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Speaker 2: there anything else you wanted to mention?
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Speaker 1: No, I'm just looking forward to, you know, the films
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Speaker 1: we're gonna be seeing. Hopefully next time I'm on the podcast,
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Speaker 1: we can talk about Wuthering Heights.
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Speaker 2: Oh good lord, I'm sure everyone is just dying to
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Speaker 2: hear our thoughts.
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Speaker 1: I'll have them. Actually, I'm probably gonna rewatch Promising Young
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Speaker 1: Woman and Saltburn.
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Speaker 2: All right, well, I will watch Promising Young Young Woman
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Speaker 2: with you.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna skip Sultburn.
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Speaker 2: It's just not it's it's not it's not my thing.
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I know, Unlike this movie is either gonna
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Speaker 1: be Austin's either gonna like it or he's gonna hate it.
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Speaker 1: There no in between me.
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Speaker 2: And there's some full frontal of a person that I
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Speaker 2: just never needed to see and they're dancing that one time.
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Speaker 2: I'm good.
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Speaker 1: I've seen things in that movie that I can't unsee,
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Speaker 1: and yet I'm still willing to watch it again.
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Speaker 2: Salt Salt burned into your eyes?
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Speaker 1: That, yes, exactly.
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Speaker 2: Anyways, let's roll on to the body count. Funny enough,
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Speaker 2: you hear a lot of that in this movie.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty much verbat them.
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Speaker 2: So this is how Sue from nineteen seventy seven, released
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Speaker 2: on September, no dates, just just September of that year
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Speaker 2: in the US. It is not rated, but there is
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Speaker 2: moderate sex and nudity, moderate violence and gore, no profanity,
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Speaker 2: no alcohol, drugs and smoking, and moderate frightening and intense
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Speaker 2: scenes coming in at eighty eight brisk minutes. Listen.
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Speaker 1: Is it so proud of myself for knowing one movie's
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Speaker 1: exact run time? And it was this movie? Even when
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Speaker 1: even when my sister's like, how long is the movie?
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Speaker 1: I think it's eighty and I was like, okay, so
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Speaker 1: it is eighty eight. I thought it was eighty eight,
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Speaker 1: but I was like, there's no way, I just know
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Speaker 1: it down to the minute.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, movie wastees absolutely zero time. Actually, well, we'll get
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Speaker 2: into it. Listed as a comedy horror much like Dead Stream,
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Speaker 2: it is a comedy first and foremost with horror elements.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, accurate.
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Speaker 2: Please bear with me on the pronunciation of all of
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Speaker 2: these people involved on the crew. So you have Nobuhiko Abayashi,
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Speaker 2: who also directed School in the Crosshairs, which we were
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Speaker 2: gonna watch until somebody fell asleep. I know, what's that like?
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Speaker 1: That it's tired?
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Speaker 2: What's that like? Because I'm always this is the one
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Speaker 2: time where I.
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Speaker 1: Was like, I'm ready and you're like, so one time
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Speaker 1: a month where I happen to be sleepier than you,
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Speaker 1: and every other night I'm like, boakeupoyop.
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Speaker 2: We did get him about an hour or so, and
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Speaker 2: there's thirty minutes left and it's very entertaining and I
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Speaker 2: was enjoying it. I don't think it's as strong as
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Speaker 2: House Sue, but it's still It's really hard to top
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Speaker 2: this film, but it was enjoyable for what we saw.
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Speaker 2: And that one's not a horror. It's more of a
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Speaker 2: sci fi fantasy written by Chiho Katsura, who also wrote
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Speaker 2: Zoom In, Sex Apartments, Zoom Up, The Beaver Book Girl,
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Speaker 2: and Orgasm Simmy Colin.
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Speaker 3: Mariko so porn.
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Speaker 1: Sure, I'm just like porn.
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Speaker 2: Much like our director of The Nesting who was exclusively
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Speaker 2: working in porn. Apparently this guy was too. And then
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Speaker 2: you have Chigumi Obii.
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Speaker 1: That would be a girl's name.
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Speaker 2: I think, well, I think Chiho. Yeah no, no no. I
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Speaker 2: saw the interview they were doing and it was a
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Speaker 2: it was a guy. Oh okay, yeah, there's a Really.
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Speaker 2: I didn't get to watch it all because it's forty
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Speaker 2: five minutes on the Criterion, but I got about fifteen
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Speaker 2: twenty minutes in and they had the writer and they
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Speaker 2: had I'm pretty I'm pretty sure Chigumi Obayasha is his daughter.
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Speaker 2: I believe, Yeah, I believe. So she's credited as a
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Speaker 2: writer because she basically came up with ninety percent of
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Speaker 2: the movie here composed by Asai Kobayashi, who also composed
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Speaker 2: shag from nineteen seventy eight. Then we have Mickey Yoshino,
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Speaker 2: who also composed Virgin Blues, forty five episodes of Usuri
16:59
Speaker 2: Ya Yatsura, Ryoko's September Tea Party, and Peacock King Ah classics.
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Speaker 2: I just threw all these. I just looked for the
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Speaker 2: like the funniest quirky titles just to have something to
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Speaker 2: fill in. Cinematography by Yoshitaka Sakamoto, who also did the
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Speaker 2: cinematography for School in the Crosshairs, His Motor Bike, Her Island,
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Speaker 2: and Kami Kazi Taxi.
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Speaker 1: It's my favorite go to film when I'm feeling down.
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Speaker 2: My favorite kind of taxi one that just dive bombs.
17:27
Speaker 2: Edited by Nobuo Agawa, who also edited Nutcracker. Fantasy Bye
17:33
Speaker 2: by Jupiter and Eve in a Summer Dress starring Kimiko
17:39
Speaker 2: Agi Kami as Apparently she has a second name, O'sher.
17:43
Speaker 2: I never heard her get called that, but she's gorgeous.
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Speaker 2: And she also plays O'sher's mother too, which is strange.
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Speaker 2: She was also in something called a Chaos of Flowers
17:53
Speaker 2: as Akiko Hatana. Then we have Miki Jimbo as kung Fu,
17:57
Speaker 2: a girl who was also When Women Do Not as
18:00
Speaker 2: Kyoko Yamakawa. We've got Kumiko Abba as Fantasy. She was
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Speaker 2: in thirty episodes of something called Secret Detective as Shoko Higarashi.
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Speaker 2: And then this is a very jarring name because I
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Speaker 2: thought it was Masterba, but it's Matsubara, so that last
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Speaker 2: name looked just it looked like masturbait and I guess
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Speaker 2: her first name is like Ai Ai Ai so Ii
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Speaker 2: Matsubara as a Gary slash prof who was also in
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Speaker 2: school in the Crosshairs as kendo tournament announcer, so she
18:33
Speaker 2: made a little cameo. Then we have Miko Saeto as Max,
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Speaker 2: who was also in Delusional Detective as someone she wasn't
18:41
Speaker 2: credited with who she was, but she was there. And
18:44
Speaker 2: then we have Erko Tanaka as Melody. This was her only.
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Speaker 1: Movie well, I mean after what happened to her, it's true.
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Speaker 2: Then we have lastly, we have Masayo Miyako as Sweet,
18:55
Speaker 2: who was also in The Visitor in the Ie as
18:57
Speaker 2: tennis player. This had an estimated budget of na but
19:03
Speaker 2: a worldwide box office gross of two hundred and twenty
19:05
Speaker 2: three point nine thousand dollars. This was actually filmed in
19:08
Speaker 2: Toho Studios, Tokyo, Japan, where they make all of the
19:12
Speaker 2: you know, Godzilla Monster movies. You can watch this kind
19:15
Speaker 2: of all over the place the Criterion Channel, HBO, Max Plex,
19:19
Speaker 2: and Shout Factory TV movies that came out around the
19:22
Speaker 2: same time. We have Orca, the Killer Whale movie, The
19:25
Speaker 2: Spy Who Loves me. The hills have eyes looking for
19:28
Speaker 2: mister goodbar beats Dragon, which I did not realize was
19:32
Speaker 2: that old. Yeah, and Close Encounters of the Third.
19:35
Speaker 1: Kind, and I've seen one yep.
19:38
Speaker 2: Close Encounters of the Third Kind. That'll do it, But
19:42
Speaker 2: I am dB summary. A schoolgirl and six of her
19:44
Speaker 2: classmates travel to her aunt country home, which turns out
19:47
Speaker 2: to be haunted. Let's go to the aatsopsy overall thoughts, Gabby,
19:54
Speaker 2: somehow compress these thoughts into a I don't need know
20:00
Speaker 2: how to explain this movie.
20:01
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start from where I bumped into this
20:04
Speaker 1: movie and go from there.
20:04
Speaker 2: All right, let's go for it, all right, take me
20:07
Speaker 2: on this journey.
20:08
Speaker 1: I've looked up horror movies on HBO Max before many times,
20:12
Speaker 1: and I'd seen this image of this Japanese girl on
20:17
Speaker 1: these whose head's floating on these blue faces, and I
20:20
Speaker 1: see that it's called House, and I've seen it so
20:22
Speaker 1: many times. I'm like, yeah, whatever, I mean, that's really cool,
20:25
Speaker 1: but whatever. And then one day I was scrolling through
20:28
Speaker 1: Facebook and it was the Criterion Closet segment with Bill Hayter,
20:34
Speaker 1: and he pulls out this movie and he's like, oh, yeah,
20:39
Speaker 1: how to I love this movie, and then turns and
20:42
Speaker 1: the cover art is what's on his shirt, and I
20:45
Speaker 1: was like, oh, that's interesting. That must be something interesting
20:48
Speaker 1: if he just happens to be wearing a shirt that
20:51
Speaker 1: is the cover of that movie. And I looked at him,
20:52
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, this is that movie that I keep
20:55
Speaker 1: seeing with the girl with the floating head and the
20:57
Speaker 1: blue background. I'm like, well, it's got to be something interesting.
21:01
Speaker 1: And then I go visit you. I'm like, hey, can
21:03
Speaker 1: we watch this movie? And I got no idea what
21:07
Speaker 1: it is, We have no context. We just sit down
21:10
Speaker 1: one night and watch it and we're both like, what
21:11
Speaker 1: the fuck is happening.
21:14
Speaker 2: It's a movie I've always seen. It's got a very
21:17
Speaker 2: very memorable poster. Oh absolutely, and I've seen it. I
21:20
Speaker 2: just never got around to it.
21:22
Speaker 1: So and it was something i'd seen. But I was like,
21:24
Speaker 1: I you know, so many of the movies you see
21:27
Speaker 1: while you're looking through streaming stuff. It's like you see
21:29
Speaker 1: something that's a fun image, Am I gonna watch it.
21:31
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go watch The Conjuring for the eight hundredth time.
21:36
Speaker 1: And so we watched it and we're like, nothing could
21:39
Speaker 1: have prepared me for this film much like Hudsucker Proxy,
21:43
Speaker 1: and everything about it is so creative and so stylistically interesting.
21:50
Speaker 1: Everything they're doing just keeps you engaged. And even if
21:54
Speaker 1: it's like Jarring or Wonky, it's all so charming that
21:59
Speaker 1: you you just can't stop watching it. And I, you
22:02
Speaker 1: know you, and I watched it, and then I immediately
22:05
Speaker 1: bought the Criterion and then I made my friends watch it,
22:08
Speaker 1: because that's pretty standard with me. If I think the
22:10
Speaker 1: movie's weird enough, everybody else will be seeing it. It's
22:13
Speaker 1: not optional. You're going to watch it now, don't Like,
22:17
Speaker 1: my sister and my father will be watching it this
22:20
Speaker 1: coming week because they will be so.
22:24
Speaker 2: Yeah, you get really weird with some movies.
22:26
Speaker 1: I get attached. Yeah, atle bit my personality. That's why
22:30
Speaker 1: I suddenly have three house t shirts, a little fortune
22:34
Speaker 1: cat and some stickers.
22:36
Speaker 2: You're welcome.
22:37
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Cat of Misfortune. My husband lovingly.
22:41
Speaker 2: Pre ordered the shit out of that right before it
22:43
Speaker 2: went out of stock.
22:44
Speaker 1: There's this little horror boutique that makes these very interesting
22:48
Speaker 1: custom items.
22:49
Speaker 2: Shout out to mood Poison.
22:51
Speaker 1: Yes, and and if you've ever seen one of those
22:54
Speaker 1: lucky cats with the rocking hand and like a at
22:57
Speaker 1: like any Asian food restaurant. Some people's dashboards also that
23:02
Speaker 1: this is the cat from how Sue. It's the cat
23:05
Speaker 1: of misfortune and that sits on my desk and makes
23:09
Speaker 1: eye contact with me all day. It's great.
23:11
Speaker 2: That's strange.
23:12
Speaker 3: Does it tell you things not that I've heard. Thanks,
23:17
Speaker 3: you're not listening exactly.
23:19
Speaker 1: This for the best, But there's just this movie is
23:22
Speaker 1: so special. We got to the end of this movie
23:24
Speaker 1: and we're like, I cannot find one flaw. It's not
23:28
Speaker 1: that there aren't flaws in it, but I have no
23:30
Speaker 1: problem with anything that was weird about this movie.
23:32
Speaker 2: Wait to bury the lead on our fucking ratings. Well well,
23:36
Speaker 2: you know, I'm just kidding.
23:38
Speaker 1: But we like, we both were like, this was amazing
23:41
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad we watched this. Zero regrets. Love it.
23:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was also a really good job condenting your
23:48
Speaker 2: overall thoughts into the first five minutes.
23:51
Speaker 3: You're welcome, just giving I could keep going.
23:53
Speaker 2: She's giving you.
23:54
Speaker 1: Hard time, talked about kung Fu.
23:55
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Okay, so this my overall thoughts are
24:00
Speaker 2: so this is by far one of the wildest cinematic
24:02
Speaker 2: experience you will ever have. Whatever you might be expecting,
24:05
Speaker 2: even from the brief IMDb description, throw it out the window,
24:09
Speaker 2: because the story takes you on just the most insane ride,
24:12
Speaker 2: with hypnotic visuals, special effects that will blow your mind
24:17
Speaker 2: for being fifty years old, and some of the most
24:20
Speaker 2: unhinged plot developments I've ever seen. I don't that's that's
24:24
Speaker 2: the best I could do here with how Sue.
24:26
Speaker 1: So, yeah, there's a lot of the film is stuff's
24:29
Speaker 1: happening why I don't know it is though, and it's
24:32
Speaker 1: happening with full confidence.
24:34
Speaker 2: Well, when we get to it a little bit later,
24:36
Speaker 2: I did. Fortunately, I saw a lot of fun information
24:39
Speaker 2: in the first twenty minutes of that, I guess. I
24:42
Speaker 2: guess it does almost like a documentary of like behind
24:45
Speaker 2: the scenes on the Criterion Blu ray, where they talk
24:49
Speaker 2: to the director, the director's daughter, and the writer. So
24:52
Speaker 2: I have a few little fun tidbits. But the h
24:56
Speaker 2: I find the setup for this movie, and it's not
24:58
Speaker 2: even something I have a problem with enough to sway
25:00
Speaker 2: my rating. But the setup is a little strange because
25:03
Speaker 2: it's you know, summer vacation. We have gorgeous our main character,
25:07
Speaker 2: she's supposed to be going to ca Ka Rusawa with
25:11
Speaker 2: her dad. But you know, then her dad brings home
25:14
Speaker 2: some trash, some tramp mystery ladies.
25:18
Speaker 1: Very nice woman who looks like she might be stoned,
25:22
Speaker 1: but she's just staring, eyes glistening out into the distance
25:27
Speaker 1: a lot while the wind specifically only blows on her
25:30
Speaker 1: hair throughout the film.
25:32
Speaker 2: I was gonna say she reminded me very much of
25:34
Speaker 2: Mortitia Adams, but instead of constantly having perfect lighting on
25:38
Speaker 2: her eyes, her hair was just blowing for no reason.
25:41
Speaker 1: Nobody else has the wind blow their hair like that.
25:44
Speaker 1: And anytime she's like anytime the shots on her, her
25:47
Speaker 1: hair is blowing in the wind with her scarfling.
25:49
Speaker 2: But why but why? Something fun? Because I researched where
25:53
Speaker 2: exactly they were going, and it's an upscale mountain resort
25:56
Speaker 2: and Nagano prefect Your, Japan known as a popular summer
26:00
Speaker 2: retreat from Tokyo's heat and winter sports destination, offering a
26:05
Speaker 2: mixture of nature, shopping and leisure activities like cycling, hikling
26:09
Speaker 2: and skiing, hikeling, cycling, hikeling, cycling, hiking and skiing, and
26:15
Speaker 2: it became famous in the late eighteen hundreds as a
26:17
Speaker 2: summer escape for Westerners and remains a favorite getaway for
26:20
Speaker 2: wealthy Japanese, easily accessible by Shinkansen the Bullet train from Tokyo.
26:26
Speaker 1: Nice.
26:27
Speaker 2: So that's pretty cool. So that's where she's supposed to
26:29
Speaker 2: go with her father, until she finds out that this
26:31
Speaker 2: tramp is coming with them. A typical kind of not stereotype.
26:36
Speaker 2: What am I thinking of? Trope of the you know
26:39
Speaker 2: mom or the mom a parent is dead and you
26:41
Speaker 2: know the parent that's not dead brings in a new person,
26:45
Speaker 2: and you know, kids get jealous and upset.
26:47
Speaker 1: To be fair to Gorgeous there, her dad just says,
26:52
Speaker 1: I will be bringing a companion, a guy or girl.
26:55
Speaker 1: So she's never met this woman before in her life,
26:59
Speaker 1: and dudes just like, yeah, I'm bringing someone with us.
27:02
Speaker 1: And then she's not even in the room, and he goes,
27:04
Speaker 1: come on out here already, just like, get out here, okay,
27:09
Speaker 1: and she's gonna be your new mom. Doesn't properly introduce them,
27:13
Speaker 1: doesn't give them a chance to meet prior to this conversation.
27:16
Speaker 1: He is ready to marry this woman, and Gorgeous has
27:20
Speaker 1: never laid eyes on her till right now.
27:22
Speaker 2: Oh I'm totally on gorgeous side.
27:25
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just like your dad is handling this in
27:29
Speaker 1: the most wild manner possible.
27:31
Speaker 2: Hemous.
27:32
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, bro, way to just fumble the whole thing
27:37
Speaker 1: because the lady in all regards is perfectly nice. But
27:42
Speaker 1: you don't ever just go, well, she's going to be
27:44
Speaker 1: your new mom. Yeah, you can say I'm going to
27:47
Speaker 1: be marrying her. I would like to join our family,
27:51
Speaker 1: but most kids are pretty protective over the mom they
27:54
Speaker 1: already had.
27:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially since her mom died died, didn't he like
27:59
Speaker 2: just get back to from from somewhere as well?
28:02
Speaker 1: Appeared from Italy? Well, yeah, that's right, the new fiance.
28:05
Speaker 2: Yeah, like by the way, uh, here we go, like
28:07
Speaker 2: maybe take me out to dinner and kind of you know,
28:09
Speaker 2: go over this and then we meet her. Don't just
28:12
Speaker 2: drop some lady into my life out of fucking nowhere. Rude.
28:16
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, uh, they do that shit in the parent trap.
28:20
Speaker 1: And granted, how their parents are handling their parenting is
28:22
Speaker 1: a whole other issue.
28:23
Speaker 2: That's a whole other story.
28:25
Speaker 1: At least he has the what do you think of her? Oh,
28:27
Speaker 1: I think she'll be a great sister.
28:29
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is the greatest line and maybe cinematic history.
28:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's had a big sister. Yeah, like she already
28:37
Speaker 1: gets a whiff of what's going on, but he's like,
28:39
Speaker 1: what do you think of her? They introduce each other
28:41
Speaker 1: that he does not go, I'm marrying her as a start. Yeah,
28:44
Speaker 1: he lets them meet first, fair like at least he
28:47
Speaker 1: had the consideration to actually get an introduction in before saying,
28:50
Speaker 1: this is your new mom.
28:53
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, that's so. Both of them didn't handle the
28:56
Speaker 2: situation very well at all, especially because you know, in
28:59
Speaker 2: the parent trap, she away at camp and just comes
29:01
Speaker 2: comes home to a lady. In this instance, it's kind
29:03
Speaker 2: of the opposite. The father comes home with someone else.
29:06
Speaker 2: Where did you meet this lady in Italy?
29:07
Speaker 1: Where is she hiding?
29:09
Speaker 2: Yeah? So it's very strange. And she has six friends
29:13
Speaker 2: and they this is what I don't understand. They're supposed
29:16
Speaker 2: to go with their teacher, mister Togo to his sister's
29:20
Speaker 2: inn for training camp. Whatever that means.
29:23
Speaker 1: Yep.
29:24
Speaker 2: Why are teachers and students vacation together in some I
29:28
Speaker 2: don't know. I have no idea. That's just not something
29:30
Speaker 2: we do in America. I don't know if that's common
29:33
Speaker 2: in Asian countries. I don't know.
29:35
Speaker 1: It feels very strange that the adult man is going
29:39
Speaker 1: with the group of girls, and then later on, even
29:42
Speaker 1: when they change where they're going, he's basically chasing behind
29:46
Speaker 1: them because he had an incident that got him delayed.
29:49
Speaker 1: Like is he chaperoning you or something? Because why is
29:53
Speaker 1: the dude chaperoning you? This is very odd.
29:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't I don't think they tell us
29:59
Speaker 2: what grade therein, but I knew maybe huh.
30:03
Speaker 1: Or what he teaches because he looks like a random deal.
30:06
Speaker 2: So he was like a coach or something like.
30:08
Speaker 1: A dune buggy he's driving around the whole movie.
30:10
Speaker 2: That dune buggy was pretty sweet though. It was so
30:13
Speaker 2: both of those plans fall through because Gorgeous is like,
30:17
Speaker 2: I'm not going not going away with this lady, and
30:20
Speaker 2: the mister Togo his sister is I guess was pregnant
30:23
Speaker 2: and is about to give birth, So both of their
30:26
Speaker 2: plans fall to pieces. So Gorgeous is like, let's just
30:29
Speaker 2: go to the country and visit my aunt and we're
30:32
Speaker 2: gonna bring We're all gonna go and have a fun
30:34
Speaker 2: time and totally not get eaten by a house.
30:37
Speaker 1: Yeah. I like that. There's like, oh, well, my sister's
30:41
Speaker 1: not opening her thing anymore. She didn't know till the
30:44
Speaker 1: day before.
30:45
Speaker 2: Yeah, typically you kind of have an idea of when
30:48
Speaker 2: you will give birth. Typically this is also nineteen seventy seven,
30:52
Speaker 2: so maybe that technology didn't.
30:54
Speaker 1: I don't know, No, that one did. They got ashtrays
30:59
Speaker 1: in the room can count nine months, Oh jeez. But
31:03
Speaker 1: the way they introduce she invites all of her friends
31:06
Speaker 1: absolutely trips me out because she's talking to them and
31:10
Speaker 1: she's like, oh, we could go to my She's like,
31:13
Speaker 1: you guys want to come with me? And they're like, oh,
31:14
Speaker 1: to the resort, and she's like, no, I'm not going
31:16
Speaker 1: there anymore. I'm to my mom's hometown where my aunt
31:20
Speaker 1: lives that I haven't seen in like ten years, to
31:23
Speaker 1: go hang out with her. And they're like, oh, yeah,
31:26
Speaker 1: that'd be amazing, and then it cuts her going. So anyway, Aunt,
31:29
Speaker 1: that's how I told them about your place. Can they
31:32
Speaker 1: stay here?
31:34
Speaker 2: Well it started too late, Gorgeous, you invited them.
31:38
Speaker 1: They've already You've already invited them. Now we're like days
31:41
Speaker 1: away from this trip, and you have to get that
31:43
Speaker 1: letter to your aunt. Your aunt asked to see it,
31:46
Speaker 1: respond and get it back. Thank God, you have a
31:48
Speaker 1: cat that could magic this.
31:50
Speaker 2: Mail to and from Magic.
31:53
Speaker 1: It did use its magic glitterized to get that mail
31:55
Speaker 1: there very quickly.
31:57
Speaker 2: I want that cat and I'm allergic, but I'll it's fine,
32:01
Speaker 2: I will. I would have that cat. That cat was
32:03
Speaker 2: just that cat was the main star blanch of the Blanche.
32:06
Speaker 2: What a fucking name to such a great name. So
32:10
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily know why the story had to start
32:13
Speaker 2: with two separate plans falling apart to get them to
32:16
Speaker 2: the aunt's house. It kind of feels like wasted time.
32:20
Speaker 2: But I mean, at the same time, it was enjoyable.
32:25
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like it was kind of
32:27
Speaker 1: supposed to be. Well, this is all spur of the moment.
32:29
Speaker 1: That's why it's all thrown together last minute. That's why
32:32
Speaker 1: nobody really knows what's going on with the aunt, and
32:36
Speaker 1: that's why the soon to be stepmom also ends up
32:40
Speaker 1: trailing behind her. It's just like all thrown together last minute.
32:45
Speaker 1: That's why it's not as well planned out.
32:48
Speaker 2: Okay, so that's kind of your setup of how they
32:50
Speaker 2: get to the house. And in no way did this
32:53
Speaker 2: feel like a horror movie For the first I don't know,
32:56
Speaker 2: twenty or so minutes, it just seems like, oh, this
32:59
Speaker 2: is gonna be a on uh comedy. I mean it
33:02
Speaker 2: is a comedy, but I'm you don't expect the horrific
33:05
Speaker 2: things that are that are gonna happen later in the
33:07
Speaker 2: I mean.
33:07
Speaker 1: There are hijinks in the beginning of this, like mister
33:10
Speaker 1: Togo trips falls butt first in a bucket, and then
33:14
Speaker 1: they do this wacky like Benny Hill type U.
33:21
Speaker 2: Oh that yeah.
33:22
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like spinning around and then spinning back,
33:25
Speaker 1: and because he got stuck in the bucket and that's
33:27
Speaker 1: why he didn't make it to the train station on time,
33:30
Speaker 1: because his butt was stuck in a bucket. You're like, what,
33:33
Speaker 1: because we're watching this, this is the first really goofy
33:35
Speaker 1: thing that happened, because up to this point it's been
33:38
Speaker 1: the silliest thing. Was like, the backdrops for the film
33:42
Speaker 1: were just really random, right, and the cat was a
33:45
Speaker 1: little bit weird. But then you get this and you're like,
33:47
Speaker 1: what the fuck is happening?
33:49
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was so cartoonish, but I mean it completely
33:52
Speaker 2: fits in with what happens towards the end of the movie.
33:55
Speaker 2: And even when he's talking on the phone with he
33:58
Speaker 2: calls someone and the bucket is still on his ass.
34:01
Speaker 2: I'm like, pull the bucket off. It can't be that
34:03
Speaker 2: it cast stuck. Can it be?
34:05
Speaker 1: Wiley's standing next to a mini horse, his dune buggy
34:08
Speaker 1: and a parrot, and You're like, what the fuck is
34:10
Speaker 1: the horse doing here?
34:11
Speaker 3: Where did you even get the orse?
34:12
Speaker 1: Oh? And one random white dude walks across the set.
34:16
Speaker 2: That seems to be the theme in this director's movies, because
34:19
Speaker 2: there was one white guy playing the drums in school
34:22
Speaker 2: in the crosshairs, and I was like, hey, it's the
34:24
Speaker 2: one white.
34:24
Speaker 1: Guy, all right, there one token white white guy.
34:27
Speaker 2: So uh yeah, so interesting setup. And then of course,
34:32
Speaker 2: by the time you get to the house, that first
34:34
Speaker 2: shot of it's such a bizarre I mean, this whole
34:37
Speaker 2: movie is filled with bizarre angles and wild choices for
34:42
Speaker 2: cinematography and editing and the effects. But I really like
34:46
Speaker 2: the first shot when they entered the house because it's
34:48
Speaker 2: kind of high up and it's like on the stairs
34:50
Speaker 2: and they walk in and they you can kind of
34:52
Speaker 2: get a scope of a lot of the floor plan.
34:55
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just I really like that shot.
34:57
Speaker 1: Oh no, it's a good shot.
34:58
Speaker 2: It's a really good shot. I feel like this was
35:00
Speaker 2: totally an experimental film because this director had only done
35:05
Speaker 2: commercial this was his first movie ever made. Yeah, and
35:09
Speaker 2: it's it just felt like he was just going with it.
35:12
Speaker 1: It feels very experimental and like in a really good way.
35:17
Speaker 1: And just to backtrack a little, to win they're on
35:19
Speaker 1: that train because let's not forget, while they're also doing
35:24
Speaker 1: these crazy shots, they are doing the wildest storytelling methods
35:27
Speaker 1: possible because they're explained, she decided. Gorgeous is explaining to
35:32
Speaker 1: her friends. Also, let's not forget the cat appeared to
35:37
Speaker 1: her before they got on this train, but the cat
35:41
Speaker 1: then also appeared on the train to go with them,
35:44
Speaker 1: but it is also the ant's cat.
35:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't ask questions, just just roll with it.
35:49
Speaker 1: They're asking questions about her aunt. She explains that her
35:53
Speaker 1: aunt was engaged and her mom used to live with
35:57
Speaker 1: the aunt, and the aunt was engaged, and then World
36:02
Speaker 1: War two happened and her fiance never came back for more,
36:07
Speaker 1: and then a few and then like several years later,
36:10
Speaker 1: the aunt had to watch Gorgeous' mom get married, right,
36:14
Speaker 1: and you can see like the look of sadness in
36:18
Speaker 1: her face that she never got to get married and
36:20
Speaker 1: she just lives with that heartbreak and when her mom
36:26
Speaker 1: pops up on screen because this is a black and
36:27
Speaker 1: white flashback, yeah to the audience the rest of the girls,
36:31
Speaker 1: she has no photos or anything. Let's get very clear.
36:33
Speaker 1: They're just talking, Oh my god, your mom's so cute.
36:37
Speaker 1: Oh he's really handsome. Like, can you see the flashback too?
36:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wrote, I wrote down, is this a fourth
36:44
Speaker 2: wall break because they're watching what the audience is seeing
36:49
Speaker 2: and reacting seeing the flashback. Yeah, they're seeing the flashback
36:52
Speaker 2: like we are and reacting to it. Hilarious. And again,
36:55
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happening, but it's it's just it
36:59
Speaker 2: works so well for some reason.
37:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they fourth wall break repeatedly throughout the film.
37:06
Speaker 2: Well, there's that one fourth wall break where the where
37:08
Speaker 2: the aunt literally looks at the camera and smiles after
37:11
Speaker 2: she just disappears into the fucking fridge.
37:13
Speaker 1: One she does it multiple times she oh yeah, oh,
37:18
Speaker 1: and multiple occasions where she makes eye contact with the camera.
37:21
Speaker 2: Interesting. So, yeah, there's definitely some there's some actual fourth
37:25
Speaker 2: wall breaking, which makes the story that Gorgeous is telling
37:28
Speaker 2: on the train kind of feel like, all right, I
37:31
Speaker 2: guess that was just a weird way to fourth Wall break.
37:34
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I but I love it though, because
37:36
Speaker 1: that's hilarious because you're like, wait, what did she say?
37:39
Speaker 1: Can they see this?
37:40
Speaker 2: Yeah? Are they seeing this too?
37:42
Speaker 1: Because Uh, it's a really it's so unusual to have
37:46
Speaker 1: anything like that happen. I know there's other films where
37:50
Speaker 1: similar stuff has happened, they're more recent in history, but
37:56
Speaker 1: it's so unusual, and it really gives you this sense
37:59
Speaker 1: of you don't know what you're seeing that they're also
38:02
Speaker 1: seeing or not seeing. You don't know what they're actually.
38:05
Speaker 1: You don't know what's real for them at all. You're
38:08
Speaker 1: not you're not gonna have any clue.
38:10
Speaker 2: Yeah.
38:11
Speaker 1: Yeah.
38:12
Speaker 2: But like I like the Aunt because there's kind of
38:16
Speaker 2: some themes that go with this movie, which the director
38:19
Speaker 2: was talking about, because he is actually a survivor of
38:22
Speaker 2: the Hiroshima bombing. Oh I didn't know that that happened,
38:25
Speaker 2: and he actually a lot of his friends died because
38:28
Speaker 2: of that bombing. So for him, there's some themes of
38:33
Speaker 2: that's why he you know, interjected the World War two
38:37
Speaker 2: storyline in there with the you know, her never getting married,
38:40
Speaker 2: so it's like she's kind of just frozen in time
38:42
Speaker 2: emotionally and physically in this house after losing her fiance
38:45
Speaker 2: in this war, and it's hard to move on from that,
38:48
Speaker 2: much like it's hard for someone to move on from
38:50
Speaker 2: all of your friends just perishing. Yeah, but what I
38:54
Speaker 2: think is really cool is that the house almost becomes
38:57
Speaker 2: this manifestation of her inability to move on on and
39:01
Speaker 2: and feeding on people to survive. Yep, which is really cool.
39:05
Speaker 2: And I don't know if he said this was the
39:07
Speaker 2: original draft, but he mentioned that that's kind of what happened.
39:12
Speaker 2: Like the the aunts is dead. She is, she's a ghost.
39:15
Speaker 2: She lives there, she becomes one with the house, and
39:17
Speaker 2: she is literally like she's part, like not part of
39:20
Speaker 2: the house, but she has become kind of one with
39:22
Speaker 2: the house and is feeding on just the kids. I
39:25
Speaker 2: was like, that's really cool, that's really cool.
39:27
Speaker 1: So her very obvious that she was not it was
39:31
Speaker 1: unlikely that she was alive though, just the way she
39:35
Speaker 1: was acting that like I haven't seen my in ten years.
39:37
Speaker 1: And Okay, so she's in a wheelchair at the top
39:41
Speaker 1: of that hill. Who's taking care of her up there?
39:44
Speaker 1: Because how would she do that?
39:46
Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's and it's all every time with no
39:49
Speaker 2: road there, that's right, And I had I had a
39:52
Speaker 2: Did they tell us exactly how the mom died? No,
39:56
Speaker 2: because I'm wondering if for some reason she she died
40:00
Speaker 2: at that house, because I don't think so.
40:02
Speaker 1: I think it was just when she was.
40:04
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. I don't know. But anyways, but yeah,
40:07
Speaker 2: as soon as the girls get there, you know, she's
40:09
Speaker 2: in this wheelchair and she's very happy that all the
40:13
Speaker 2: girls are there. She's like, oh you have what did
40:15
Speaker 2: she say? I wrote it down? Hold on one second, fuck,
40:19
Speaker 2: I can't find it. She says something along the along
40:22
Speaker 2: the lines of I'm so happy you're here, like you're
40:24
Speaker 2: giving me strength.
40:26
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well they're like, oh, well he'll take care of you.
40:29
Speaker 1: She's like, I'll be better now that you're here.
40:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, oh yeah. She when she gets out
40:35
Speaker 2: of the wheelchair and questioned by them, she's like, you've
40:37
Speaker 2: given me strength. And I thought, well, that's kind of weird.
40:40
Speaker 2: Are you about to eat these kids or something? Are
40:43
Speaker 2: you some sort of vampire? She's going on.
40:45
Speaker 1: She doesn't get out of the wheelchair till after Mac
40:47
Speaker 1: goes missing.
40:48
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's yeah. When I'm saying when Matt Sorry,
40:51
Speaker 2: my notes did say that when Mac goes missing and
40:54
Speaker 2: Fantasy finds her head, that's when she gets out of
40:56
Speaker 2: the wheelchair, like, oh, you give me strength, Like, oh,
40:59
Speaker 2: so now that our friends is dead, you suddenly have strength.
41:02
Speaker 1: Is that weird?
41:03
Speaker 2: That's not weird at all.
41:05
Speaker 1: You know, she's dismissive of odd things happening in the house.
41:08
Speaker 2: And uh, super dismissive.
41:11
Speaker 1: Yeah. They At one point, Mac bless her uh goes
41:17
Speaker 1: to put a watermelon in the well because apparently that
41:20
Speaker 1: is the natural refrigerator.
41:23
Speaker 2: I have a story for you when you're done.
41:25
Speaker 1: And yeah, when she goes to uh retrieve it, she
41:29
Speaker 1: just disappears. No, she she goes on a run and
41:33
Speaker 1: she disappears, and then Fantasy goes to get that watermelon
41:36
Speaker 1: and it's her head, yeah.
41:38
Speaker 2: And it starts floating around and.
41:40
Speaker 1: Bites Fantasy on the ass because she just got She
41:44
Speaker 1: like pulls it up, looks at it. Fantasy's like, uh,
41:48
Speaker 1: and the head's just kind of smiling at her, goes Fantasy,
41:53
Speaker 1: and then it floats in the air and then for
41:55
Speaker 1: some reason, uh, Fantasy just like kind of trip falls
41:58
Speaker 1: over halfway enough for Max floating it to bite her ass.
42:04
Speaker 3: Why not because why not?
42:06
Speaker 1: And then throw up blood and then barrel rolled backward
42:09
Speaker 1: into the well.
42:10
Speaker 2: Yep.
42:11
Speaker 1: And I just want to make a brief side note
42:13
Speaker 1: that all these girls have nicknames, as we've noted. Uh,
42:18
Speaker 1: they're all super literal. Uh Gorgeous is gorgeous. Uh. Prof
42:24
Speaker 1: as the nerdy one. She's got the glasses, So that's
42:27
Speaker 1: how you know.
42:28
Speaker 2: That's how you know she's nerdy.
42:29
Speaker 1: Kung Fu does kung fu. Fantasy has got a big imagination,
42:34
Speaker 1: which doesn't really track because so far we've only seen
42:38
Speaker 1: her tell people what's happening, and it's just so wild.
42:40
Speaker 1: They're like fantasy in her highjinks.
42:42
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that's why.
42:44
Speaker 1: She set up, which is yeah, she set up for it.
42:46
Speaker 1: Melody plays music. Melody, by the way, has a very
42:50
Speaker 1: similar bill to Mac. And yet Mac is the fat
42:54
Speaker 1: friend who never stops eating. And we thought that, like
42:59
Speaker 1: it's part of the trivia, I know, but we thought
43:02
Speaker 1: her name was Mac is in Big Max. It's even worse.
43:06
Speaker 1: It's Mac as in Stomac. And they do technically explain
43:11
Speaker 1: that in the movie, but it's just like, God, damn guys,
43:14
Speaker 1: that was.
43:15
Speaker 2: The original name that he had with stomach. Yeah, and
43:18
Speaker 2: they've changed.
43:19
Speaker 1: It's so mean, and realistically, this girl is still tiny's
43:27
Speaker 1: normal size person. She's just closer to an average size,
43:31
Speaker 1: whereas the rest of the girls are closer to like
43:34
Speaker 1: a zero or a one or two. She might be
43:36
Speaker 1: closer to like a six or an eight. She's still
43:39
Speaker 1: small relatively speaking. And she like, well, she's the fat one,
43:44
Speaker 1: and they're literally she's just shoveling food in the entire
43:46
Speaker 1: time and always talking about food, and you're like, Jesus, guys,
43:51
Speaker 1: but yeah, she doesn't make it. She's ahead. And then
43:54
Speaker 1: Fantasy goes and tells everybody. Everybody blows it off, says
43:59
Speaker 1: she's just imagined things. They pull the watermelon out of
44:03
Speaker 1: the water and tell her to stop playing around. Mac
44:07
Speaker 1: is somewhere, and then the ant just stands up. It's like, well,
44:10
Speaker 1: I'm starting to feel better. And they're like, what.
44:12
Speaker 2: From the watermelon or mac going?
44:14
Speaker 1: And she's just like chowing down on that watermelon, and uh,
44:19
Speaker 1: she has she has the eyeball come out of her mouth.
44:21
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, she's has the eyeball, and she's like she's
44:23
Speaker 2: pointing out at one part I can't remember it. Yeah,
44:26
Speaker 2: and that happens a few times where she's just like eyeball, eyeball.
44:29
Speaker 2: So was is the house casting an illusion over Max's head,
44:35
Speaker 2: making everybody think it's the watermelon and they're all just
44:37
Speaker 2: eating max head. Maybe who knows it's.
44:41
Speaker 1: The watermelon that they're eating, but I think that she
44:43
Speaker 1: because it does later.
44:45
Speaker 2: On you ever get eyeball in your watermelon?
44:47
Speaker 1: Well, everybody's kind of just wandering off doing stuff, looking
44:52
Speaker 1: around the house, having baths, what have you, fantasy and
44:57
Speaker 1: I think a couple of the other girls are doing
45:00
Speaker 1: they say something to the aunt, who's kind of just
45:04
Speaker 1: dancing around the ant, opens the refrigerator, twirls around, steps
45:08
Speaker 1: into the refrigerator, shuts the door, and you're like, what
45:11
Speaker 1: the fuck what?
45:12
Speaker 2: That's such a great shot though, because so good because
45:15
Speaker 2: it's from kind.
45:16
Speaker 1: Of not the raw.
45:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not the rafters of the home, but it's
45:20
Speaker 2: somewhere where. Okay, then it was the rafters. So obviously
45:24
Speaker 2: they had to have most likely had two people for
45:27
Speaker 2: that shot because I don't see any other way around
45:29
Speaker 2: doing that, because she disappears into the fridge and then
45:32
Speaker 2: comes right up next to the camera a few moments later.
45:34
Speaker 2: Unless in the rafters, and the rafters looks at the
45:36
Speaker 2: camera and smiles.
45:38
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like there with the cat, and then she's
45:40
Speaker 1: just and then it cuts to her dancing.
45:43
Speaker 4: On top of the rafters yep, and you're just like
45:46
Speaker 4: what most of the movie is spent going, I don't
45:49
Speaker 4: know what's going on, but I am one hundred percent
45:52
Speaker 4: here for it.
45:53
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got girl, You've got a girl getting
45:56
Speaker 1: turned into a doll at one point, and then she's
45:59
Speaker 1: later inside a clock. One girl's face shatters apart into flames.
46:07
Speaker 1: It's bonkers the whole Like, do you even try to
46:10
Speaker 1: describe it? Scene by scene? Is just too hard because
46:12
Speaker 1: there's just so many chaotic things. There's a skeleton that's
46:15
Speaker 1: randomly in the house and typically dancing. Typically it'll cut
46:19
Speaker 1: to scenes of the ant like eating a hand, and
46:23
Speaker 1: it's just like nothing was off limits. Some of the
46:27
Speaker 1: techniques they used for those shots was really cool. I
46:31
Speaker 1: know you want to talk about those though.
46:33
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got some notes on those, yeah, but specifically
46:36
Speaker 2: talking about all of the crazy moments in this movie.
46:39
Speaker 2: Something fascinating that I found, not only from the small
46:43
Speaker 2: portion of the documentary or whatever you want to call it,
46:46
Speaker 2: the video piece that I watched on the criterion release.
46:50
Speaker 2: His daughter is not the thing. That's why she's credited
46:54
Speaker 2: as a writer, because she came up with ninety percent
46:56
Speaker 2: of the ideas for this movie. The director go He
47:00
Speaker 2: mentions that, you know, adult minds are so boring because
47:03
Speaker 2: they can only think in a box of what is
47:07
Speaker 2: like like reality.
47:08
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're much more grounded in reality because our imaginations,
47:13
Speaker 1: while still they are still there.
47:14
Speaker 2: It's just kids can come up with the craziest things.
47:17
Speaker 2: I mean, they literally had a show called Kids Say
47:18
Speaker 2: the Darnedest Things. So someone actually came to him I
47:22
Speaker 2: don't remember if it was from Toho or who it was,
47:24
Speaker 2: but came to him because they wanted to They wanted
47:27
Speaker 2: a director that hadn't done a movie, first time movie
47:29
Speaker 2: to do something similar to Jaws in the sense of
47:33
Speaker 2: a big movie like Jaws was huge, and apparently Steven
47:38
Speaker 2: Spielberg at the time was a pretty amateur director. So
47:41
Speaker 2: they came to him and asked him to write a
47:44
Speaker 2: script you know, hopefully, you know, in the hopes that
47:46
Speaker 2: it would do numbers like Jaws. And how they got
47:49
Speaker 2: from Jaws to House is kind of interesting because, like
47:54
Speaker 2: I said, you know, adults think in a boring way,
47:56
Speaker 2: so jaws would just instead of a shark, it would
47:59
Speaker 2: just be a bit or another animal attacking someone. And
48:04
Speaker 2: he was talking with his daughter and they came to
48:06
Speaker 2: the conclusion that, you know, a house eating people would
48:09
Speaker 2: be is so much more terrifying and out of the blue,
48:12
Speaker 2: you know, out of the ordinary than animals attacking like
48:15
Speaker 2: that's normal, but house eating people, that's not very normal.
48:18
Speaker 2: And the watermelon gag specifically came from a when his
48:24
Speaker 2: daughter was visiting her grandfather. At the time, they didn't
48:26
Speaker 2: have a refrigerator, so the only way to get things
48:29
Speaker 2: cold was to put it down in the well. So
48:31
Speaker 2: they actually did that with the watermelon when she was
48:34
Speaker 2: a child, and when she pulled it back up, she
48:36
Speaker 2: just you know, imagined it was a head coming after
48:38
Speaker 2: her throw it. In the movie, done the piano scene.
48:42
Speaker 2: She played piano as a kid and got her fingers
48:46
Speaker 2: caught in the keys one time, and again just imagination
48:49
Speaker 2: of the keys eating your hands into the movie. There
48:52
Speaker 2: you go.
48:53
Speaker 1: So most melody getting eaten by the piano is one
48:56
Speaker 1: of the peak moments of that film.
48:57
Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the oh the pillow fight? Right, So
49:00
Speaker 2: also at her grandfather's house in the country, she slept
49:04
Speaker 2: on futons and they would have to air them out outside.
49:07
Speaker 2: She didn't explain why, but you know, she would air
49:09
Speaker 2: them out, but she would be carry and.
49:11
Speaker 1: They tend to be folded up for a while to
49:13
Speaker 1: oh okay, you know, they can get kind of stale.
49:15
Speaker 2: So while she was in the country visiting her grandparents,
49:17
Speaker 2: they would air out the futons and it was a
49:19
Speaker 2: heavy futon for her to carry as a kid, and
49:22
Speaker 2: she just was like, what, you know, how scary would
49:24
Speaker 2: it be if this just started to eat me. Throw
49:26
Speaker 2: it into the movie with the mattresses, that whole scene
49:28
Speaker 2: where the mattresses are attacking everybody. So I find it
49:31
Speaker 2: so interesting that most of this movie comes from a
49:36
Speaker 2: child's imagination and it has a total childlike wonderment feel
49:41
Speaker 2: to it. If that's the right what I'm trying to say.
49:44
Speaker 2: Even the glass scene where the glass shatters. Nobohiko asked
49:48
Speaker 2: his daughter, what would what would be something that's scary
49:51
Speaker 2: and she was just combing her hair one day and
49:53
Speaker 2: was like, uh, my reflection attacking me would be pretty scary.
49:57
Speaker 2: In the movie, it's just so funny. Yeah, I find
50:00
Speaker 2: that I find that interesting.
50:02
Speaker 1: It's things you wouldn't really as an adult, find scary,
50:06
Speaker 1: but you're like, yeah, as a kid, this would be terrifying.
50:09
Speaker 2: It's just not something that we would really ever think of.
50:11
Speaker 1: Exactly, which is why you spend the entire movie going,
50:15
Speaker 1: what's happening?
50:16
Speaker 2: Yeah, it has this, It just has this. Ah, I'm
50:20
Speaker 2: just trended. It's so hard to explain it. Just just
50:23
Speaker 2: ask a kid, Yeah, ask a kid. It just has
50:25
Speaker 2: this complete level of surrealism. Is that, Yeah, absolutely surrealism
50:30
Speaker 2: to it, where nothing makes sense. It is all the
50:33
Speaker 2: stuff of nightmares and nightmares that I've never personally seen before.
50:37
Speaker 2: I think, genuinely, I don't think this is really going
50:40
Speaker 2: to be a hot take. This is probably one of
50:42
Speaker 2: the most original movies I've ever seen in my life,
50:45
Speaker 2: and easily.
50:46
Speaker 1: Like even the characters, they're all one note.
50:49
Speaker 2: Characters, they're all archetypes.
50:51
Speaker 1: Yeah, and kids will create very elaborate storylines. Oh yeah,
50:55
Speaker 1: I mean I know that. I always believed how I
51:00
Speaker 1: played as a kid was like a singular experience, and
51:04
Speaker 1: now TikTok has shown me that apparently me and every
51:07
Speaker 1: other girl my age was putting on baboushkas and raising
51:14
Speaker 1: our poor orphan children, don't ask questions before we suddenly
51:19
Speaker 1: succumb to our our fatal illnesses for our orphan children
51:23
Speaker 1: to grow up. Who then we played and I'm like, oh, okay,
51:28
Speaker 1: so we were all doing that. We'll come up with
51:30
Speaker 1: the elaborate storylines. But the characters are always simple. And yeah,
51:35
Speaker 1: if you've got a character who fights, her courser name
51:38
Speaker 1: would be kung Fu. And what does she do? She
51:40
Speaker 1: does kung fu the end. That's who she is.
51:43
Speaker 2: Great kung Fu sequences.
51:45
Speaker 1: This just amazing, credible, amazing character. If that lamp hadn't
51:51
Speaker 1: got her, she was still fighting, even in pieces.
51:56
Speaker 2: Even in her underwear. At one point she does something
51:59
Speaker 2: some hike and her pants come off and then she's.
52:01
Speaker 1: Just flaming logs attack her.
52:02
Speaker 2: That's right, the flaming logs. And then she's just an
52:04
Speaker 2: underwear for the rest of her time there, which is.
52:07
Speaker 1: Kind of like a swimsuit bottom though, because it's not
52:09
Speaker 1: really underwear, and yeah, it's kind of a ketches are
52:12
Speaker 1: skirt and you're like, but why didn't you put it
52:14
Speaker 1: back on after that?
52:15
Speaker 2: Who knows?
52:17
Speaker 1: And yeah, they're just like these really simple versions of
52:20
Speaker 1: these characters, and the focus is really just on these
52:25
Speaker 1: scenarios coming to life and happening, and at a certain point,
52:29
Speaker 1: the back half of the movie, or like the back
52:31
Speaker 1: portion of the movie is just chaos, just every wacky
52:35
Speaker 1: thing that could possibly be happening at all at once.
52:39
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean again, you'll never see anything that happens
52:43
Speaker 2: in this movie coming. Like I said the first the
52:46
Speaker 2: first I'd say half of it is relatively normal.
52:50
Speaker 1: I say normal with the first third because if you
52:53
Speaker 1: break it into thirds, you kind.
52:54
Speaker 2: Of yeah, that's fair. But even in like the opening
52:57
Speaker 2: sequences when they're introducing everyone they're there are just some
53:01
Speaker 2: jarring shots. Like I loved the constant wipe that they
53:04
Speaker 2: were doing when they were so all seven girls are
53:08
Speaker 2: sitting on this not a bench, but it's like one
53:10
Speaker 2: of the like a concrete thing for a planter, and
53:13
Speaker 2: every time someone else talks, it wipes to the person
53:16
Speaker 2: to the right, or like they'll do a wipe to
53:17
Speaker 2: the left. It was such an interesting I thought. It
53:20
Speaker 2: took me a while to figure out what they were doing,
53:22
Speaker 2: but once I did, I was like, I really like that.
53:24
Speaker 2: It's a little jarring, but it's a fun, little touch
53:27
Speaker 2: and they're doing these weird overlays, like when the girls
53:31
Speaker 2: were hugging, I thought they were gonna kiss, and it
53:33
Speaker 2: kind of viner's around them with like branches and trees
53:38
Speaker 2: and shit, what are we doing in this movie? So
53:41
Speaker 2: even the beginning third is still wild from just a
53:45
Speaker 2: cinematography and editing point of view, and then the visuals
53:50
Speaker 2: start coming in and it's just like I'm already in
53:53
Speaker 2: this plus again eighty eight minutes wasting zero time.
53:56
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then you have these weird moments in the
53:58
Speaker 1: film that U they cut in with like a comedic relief,
54:02
Speaker 1: which is funny to me because the whole movie's kind
54:05
Speaker 1: of silly. It's a no by no means scary. You
54:10
Speaker 1: could see why those things would be scary to them,
54:12
Speaker 1: but like getting eaten by a piano, Yeah, that would
54:15
Speaker 1: be scary. It's very silly to watch.
54:19
Speaker 2: I think with all the exaggerated colors that they used
54:22
Speaker 2: to it has this kind of almost playful feel.
54:25
Speaker 1: Yeah.
54:26
Speaker 2: That's why I said the house dropped acid and ate
54:28
Speaker 2: a box of crayons, because there's a lot of color.
54:30
Speaker 1: I mean, they straight up drew on the film.
54:32
Speaker 2: Yeah, And uh, it was nineteen seventy seven.
54:36
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I've seen I've done that kind of technique
54:38
Speaker 1: before on photographs. It's it's fun to do. But it
54:44
Speaker 1: cuts in with mister Togo, uh, because let's not forget
54:47
Speaker 1: he's there.
54:48
Speaker 2: He's just looming in the background.
54:50
Speaker 1: He's not in this movie. He's like not even in
54:53
Speaker 1: this damn movie. He is trying to get to them.
54:55
Speaker 1: And it'll randomly cut to him doing things like eating
54:59
Speaker 1: ramen and driving and trying to find this place. And
55:04
Speaker 1: we were we were both watching it this time, are like,
55:06
Speaker 1: I still don't know what the fuck mister Togo's doing
55:09
Speaker 1: in this movie. And eventually, like I kind of looked
55:14
Speaker 1: it up, and you know, it's pointed out that it's
55:18
Speaker 1: mister Togo is kind of representative of the adults in
55:22
Speaker 1: the scenario where it's like they can't really shield the
55:26
Speaker 1: kids from the their world that they are, like the
55:30
Speaker 1: world they're in that they don't understand the horror. Yeah,
55:34
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. And then mister Togo is the
55:36
Speaker 1: only man in the movie really. I mean, her dad's
55:40
Speaker 1: in it briefly, but he's mister Togo is the only
55:42
Speaker 1: like man that's in the movie.
55:44
Speaker 2: I'd say that would be considered kind of a main character.
55:47
Speaker 2: He's he's present throughout the run time.
55:50
Speaker 1: But he's not present for them. They're like repeatedly talking
55:54
Speaker 1: about him showing up and he's gonna like help them
55:57
Speaker 1: when he gets there. He never fucking makes sit there.
56:00
Speaker 1: Yeah he's useless. Ye, Like he's useless to these girls.
56:08
Speaker 1: But is he because he stopped full on stops to
56:10
Speaker 1: eat Ramen is oblivious to the danger these girls are in,
56:14
Speaker 1: oblivious that they are a lot like dependent on him
56:17
Speaker 1: getting there to save them. And then, to add to
56:21
Speaker 1: the comedy of the situation, this man doesn't even fucking
56:23
Speaker 1: make it there. He gets to the watermelon stand and
56:27
Speaker 1: is turned into a goddamn pile of bananas.
56:30
Speaker 2: That was the most That's one of the the funniest things.
56:33
Speaker 1: I was just rounding out how completely useless he was
56:36
Speaker 1: to these girls.
56:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, can you remind me of the ending, because I was,
56:41
Speaker 2: I was starting to trail off there at the end.
56:42
Speaker 1: He did get very sleepy, I know, so, yes.
56:45
Speaker 2: Unfortunately they all die right.
56:48
Speaker 1: Them girls don't make it gorgeous. After she goes upstairs
56:52
Speaker 1: and sees her aunt's wedding dress, which her aunt can
56:56
Speaker 1: only wear when She's like at full strength, essentially full power.
57:02
Speaker 1: So when girls come so she can be young again
57:04
Speaker 1: to wear her dress. After Gorgeous's face kind of fall
57:10
Speaker 1: turns and breaks apart and turns into flames. Gorgeous ain't gorgeous,
57:14
Speaker 1: ain't a here anymore. She checked out. She is definitely
57:18
Speaker 1: at this point possessed by the aunt, and all the
57:22
Speaker 1: other girls are like drowning in the house. The house
57:25
Speaker 1: is flooding. It has shut them up inside. Kung Fu
57:28
Speaker 1: hasn't made it.
57:29
Speaker 2: Like.
57:29
Speaker 1: All the girls get taken out by this house one
57:33
Speaker 1: by one, and then Gorgeous is in the wedding clothes.
57:37
Speaker 1: Kung Fu and Gorgeous duke it out briefly, which was amazing,
57:42
Speaker 1: But Gorgeous like appears to fantasy and she holds fantasy.
57:48
Speaker 1: But then it cuts to the next day. Fantasy did
57:52
Speaker 1: not make it, and it's the step mom. Gorgeous is
57:57
Speaker 1: soon to be stepmom, driving with her wind in the
58:00
Speaker 1: the hair in her wind. Yeah, the wind in her hair. Wait,
58:05
Speaker 1: hairy wind.
58:07
Speaker 2: Ah, that is a visual I did not need. There's
58:12
Speaker 2: my childlike imagination right there.
58:14
Speaker 1: Whichever combination of those words makes sense, go with that one.
58:18
Speaker 1: Pulling up to where the watermelon stand is and she's
58:23
Speaker 1: the dune buggy with the bananas in it, and she's like, well,
58:26
Speaker 1: that's weird, how strange, and gets up to where the
58:30
Speaker 1: house is and Gorgeous is in a full Kimodo opening
58:36
Speaker 1: the doors, and then they sit together and they talk
58:41
Speaker 1: for a minute, and she's like, oh, everybody else is
58:44
Speaker 1: still sleeping. They'll wake when they're hungry, like what. And
58:49
Speaker 1: they're just kind of staring at each other and smiling,
58:53
Speaker 1: and that Stepmom again looks like she is stoned out
58:57
Speaker 1: of her mind, and then she kind of burst into flames. Ah,
59:05
Speaker 1: and we zoom in on Blanche.
59:06
Speaker 2: The end ah, the ending with the ending with Blanche.
59:11
Speaker 2: This is saying that's fantasy, the soul survivor fantasy, seemingly
59:15
Speaker 2: possessed or traumatized into taking on the role of the ant,
59:18
Speaker 2: becoming the new mother figure in the haunted house after
59:20
Speaker 2: all her friends were brutally consumed.
59:22
Speaker 1: Is that what was supposed to be happening?
59:24
Speaker 2: Is that what's going on?
59:26
Speaker 1: I thought that was gorgeous, was the out gorgeous.
59:30
Speaker 2: You don't even know what happened book, I'm still working
59:34
Speaker 2: it out, all right, Well, little mixed up here, but
59:37
Speaker 2: it's fine. So at the end of the film, Fantasy
59:40
Speaker 2: is the last surviving schoolgirl and is holding on to
59:43
Speaker 2: the ghost of Gorgeous and calling her mother. This could
59:46
Speaker 2: be an an ode to Gorgeous's hopefulness of having a
59:50
Speaker 2: mother figure, or it could be a cul to return
59:53
Speaker 2: to in Fancy and full vulnerability after Fantasy witnessed all
59:58
Speaker 2: of the destruction. Okay, so it seems that Fantasy was
1:00:02
Speaker 2: the she.
1:00:03
Speaker 1: Was technically, but yeah, but you don't see where Fantasy
1:00:06
Speaker 1: ended up or anything.
1:00:07
Speaker 2: No.
1:00:07
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't think she made it.
1:00:10
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think really anybody made it.
1:00:11
Speaker 1: Ours. I'm concerned Fantasy did not make it because the
1:00:14
Speaker 1: next day, when the house is being opened up, she's
1:00:17
Speaker 1: nowhere to be seen. It's Gorgeous in a kimono.
1:00:19
Speaker 2: Hm hmm, yeah, I'm wondering if is that what that is?
1:00:27
Speaker 2: Does the does the aunt have a name? Because Gorgeous
1:00:31
Speaker 2: is also called o' chaer and O's SHARE's mother.
1:00:33
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the Gorgeous also plays her mom in like
1:00:37
Speaker 1: the uh in the picture, I think so in the
1:00:41
Speaker 1: flashback I.
1:00:42
Speaker 2: Think, hmm. Interesting. Okay, so yeah, the ending very strange,
1:00:46
Speaker 2: but mostly no one makes it and and that's a
1:00:49
Speaker 2: bleak ending, you know. I mean that's a that's a
1:00:50
Speaker 2: pretty bleak ending for all of these young innocent women
1:00:54
Speaker 2: to get eaten by a house. And that's pretty much it,
1:00:56
Speaker 2: but it does it. You know that there are themes
1:00:59
Speaker 2: of not being able to move past trauma stuff like that.
1:01:01
Speaker 2: So there's a lot of good themes going on here
1:01:03
Speaker 2: if you pick up on them. But you kind of
1:01:06
Speaker 2: have to let the movie sit with you and pick
1:01:09
Speaker 2: it apart, because if you're trying to find themes throughout,
1:01:11
Speaker 2: it's gonna be very tough because of all everything that's
1:01:14
Speaker 2: going on. Yeah, absolutely so much is happening in this movie.
1:01:17
Speaker 2: I feel like I could talk about this for another hour,
1:01:20
Speaker 2: but in the you know, in the pursuit of not
1:01:23
Speaker 2: having two hour podcasts anymore, I think I think that's
1:01:26
Speaker 2: about all I have.
1:01:27
Speaker 1: It's fine. You can talk about it more next Sunday
1:01:30
Speaker 1: when you're together with everybody who just watched it.
1:01:37
Speaker 2: I don't know if any of these are These might
1:01:41
Speaker 2: be somewhere in the in the trivia, but anyways, so
1:01:45
Speaker 2: I think that's I think that's it. There is there
1:01:47
Speaker 2: anything else you did want to mention that we that
1:01:49
Speaker 2: we didn't touch on other than other than the cat
1:01:51
Speaker 2: just being an absolute star. She is the main character.
1:01:55
Speaker 1: I think we covered as much as you possibly could
1:01:58
Speaker 1: on a film of that complexity.
1:02:01
Speaker 2: I'm surprised we were able to even fill an hour
1:02:04
Speaker 2: because it's so hard to describe this movie. But I if,
1:02:07
Speaker 2: I mean, if you're listening at this point you haven't
1:02:09
Speaker 2: watched it, it really doesn't matter. We haven't spoiled much
1:02:12
Speaker 2: for you, because nothing will top actually seeing all of
1:02:14
Speaker 2: the stuff that we've talked about on a screen. So
1:02:18
Speaker 2: I recommend obviously you can stream it, but I if
1:02:21
Speaker 2: you like physical media and you like collecting, go grab
1:02:23
Speaker 2: the Criterion release. It is definitely worth the money you
1:02:27
Speaker 2: will spend on it, and it is one of my
1:02:30
Speaker 2: prize possessions that you bought for us.
1:02:33
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you mean my prize possession. It's mine.
1:02:36
Speaker 2: I'm saying, like a prize possession in the collection.
1:02:38
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah for sure.
1:02:40
Speaker 2: So with that being said, let's move on to the
1:02:42
Speaker 2: final cut. Taglines here only one and I don't really
1:02:48
Speaker 2: get it. House is calling to you, come back home
1:02:51
Speaker 2: and marry me. Go ah, yes, got it, sure, got it,
1:02:54
Speaker 2: got it? Got it? Trivia According to director Nobuhiko Abayashi,
1:02:59
Speaker 2: this is the first Japanese film to use video effects,
1:03:01
Speaker 2: which he applied in a scene to make one of
1:03:03
Speaker 2: the girls dissolve under water through low fidelity video and
1:03:07
Speaker 2: a simple chroma key effect. None of the seven young
1:03:10
Speaker 2: actresses who portray the group of friends that visit the
1:03:14
Speaker 2: house were trained trained film actresses. The young ladies were
1:03:17
Speaker 2: models who had worked with the director before in advertisements
1:03:20
Speaker 2: or commercials. The script was yeah, very partly inspired by oh,
1:03:25
Speaker 2: twelve year old daughter, there we go, Yeah, Chigumi, So
1:03:28
Speaker 2: she is actually credited as a writer. She told him
1:03:31
Speaker 2: of a fear she had that the mirror she used
1:03:34
Speaker 2: would eat her. And that's just one example of the
1:03:36
Speaker 2: mini that I told you. So. The film was commissioned
1:03:39
Speaker 2: by Tohost Studio in reaction to the success of, you know,
1:03:42
Speaker 2: foreign horror films like Jaws, and was designed to be
1:03:45
Speaker 2: a domestic reflection of the successful Western films of the genre.
1:03:49
Speaker 2: I don't think it was that successful in terms of money,
1:03:51
Speaker 2: but it was very successful in terms of ratings, and
1:03:55
Speaker 2: in the decade after the film's released, oba Yashi had
1:03:57
Speaker 2: thought about making a sequel. He ultimately decided against it
1:04:00
Speaker 2: thinking that a film like House should be a one time.
1:04:03
Speaker 1: Event accurate and thank you for standing.
1:04:05
Speaker 2: Couldn't have said it better accurate, and thank you for that.
1:04:09
Speaker 2: So there are no goofs that I could find that
1:04:11
Speaker 2: we're interesting. This has a seven point two out of
1:04:15
Speaker 2: ten on IMDb. For our purposes, on the nightmare index,
1:04:18
Speaker 2: that would be a three point six out of five.
1:04:21
Speaker 2: It also has boasts a four point zero on Letterbox,
1:04:26
Speaker 2: which if you're on Letterbox, you know that that is
1:04:29
Speaker 2: four higher is just an absolute nuts rating. To have
1:04:33
Speaker 2: ninety percent on the Tomato Meter and a seventy eight
1:04:37
Speaker 2: percent audience score. I already know you're rating for this movie,
1:04:40
Speaker 2: but tell everyone what you gave this.
1:04:43
Speaker 1: It's five stars. It's on my top four.
1:04:45
Speaker 2: It's a it's a five star. I mean, there's no
1:04:47
Speaker 2: question about it. And I am not at all shocked
1:04:49
Speaker 2: that this is a frightmare certified slap. So with that
1:04:54
Speaker 2: being said, this has a nightmare index of a four
1:04:58
Speaker 2: point four, which I don't think is going to be topped.
1:05:01
Speaker 2: It's gonna be really hard to top a four point
1:05:03
Speaker 2: four because right behind that we have dead Stream and
1:05:06
Speaker 2: the Nesting at a three point six to three so
1:05:08
Speaker 2: this is a full point higher almost than both of
1:05:12
Speaker 2: those movies. Similar movies, according to the Letterbox, we have
1:05:15
Speaker 2: Uzumaki Beetlejuice that tracks The Grudge two thousand and four,
1:05:19
Speaker 2: Midsimar and The Grudge two two thousand.
1:05:22
Speaker 3: And six, Wild Throwing, Wild Throw.
1:05:24
Speaker 2: And similar movies. According to IMDb, we have Ony Baba, Audition, Tetsuo,
1:05:29
Speaker 2: The Iron Man, Pulse, and Suspiria. Those make a lot
1:05:32
Speaker 2: more sense.
1:05:33
Speaker 1: I had to promise my sister this was nothing like Audition.
1:05:36
Speaker 1: Oh god, no, yeah, I don't want to watch anything
1:05:39
Speaker 1: like that again. And I'm like, no, no, this is
1:05:41
Speaker 1: this is not that. You're good. You're good.
1:05:43
Speaker 2: That's a woman in power movie. Don't watch I spit
1:05:45
Speaker 2: on your grave watch Audition.
1:05:47
Speaker 3: Jesus.
1:05:49
Speaker 2: All right, let's do some funny reviews here. I have
1:05:53
Speaker 2: extras because you stole most of mine last time, and
1:05:56
Speaker 2: that was just rude.
1:05:57
Speaker 1: I got four.
1:05:58
Speaker 2: All right, why don't you go first, Goes. I want
1:06:00
Speaker 2: to see if you're stolen your mine?
1:06:02
Speaker 1: Uh okay, three and a half stars from Jeba Jebba.
1:06:07
Speaker 1: I'm naming my firstborn child kung Fu.
1:06:09
Speaker 2: Yep, stole one.
1:06:11
Speaker 3: That's a good one, though it is will be me
1:06:13
Speaker 3: naming our child.
1:06:15
Speaker 2: So one star from Thailot Lantern, so many transitions and effects,
1:06:21
Speaker 2: it felt like my first PowerPoint presentation. This guy, this
1:06:24
Speaker 2: guy clearly doesn't get it, but it's fine.
1:06:27
Speaker 1: But also hilarious.
1:06:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, accurate.
1:06:29
Speaker 2: Yeah.
1:06:31
Speaker 1: Five stars from Lily. Going to need about three to
1:06:35
Speaker 1: five business days to protest.
1:06:36
Speaker 3: But I just watched.
1:06:39
Speaker 2: Five stars from Amaya. This is what sleepovers feel like
1:06:43
Speaker 2: when you are twelve true.
1:06:47
Speaker 1: Five stars from Evasive Boys. Sleepovers. Ha ha, Let's drink
1:06:51
Speaker 1: a two liter of mountain dew and play call of
1:06:53
Speaker 1: Duty for four hours, girl sleepovers.
1:06:58
Speaker 2: Five stars from Carston. My death scene is just an
1:07:02
Speaker 2: allergic reaction to the cat. That's me and you, right, uh?
1:07:08
Speaker 1: Four and a half stars from Lucy. Finally showed this
1:07:11
Speaker 1: to my dad in about five minutes and he hits
1:07:14
Speaker 1: me with a this is odd. Well, yes, my dude,
1:07:17
Speaker 1: why do you think we're watching it?
1:07:19
Speaker 2: Yes, my dude, That's.
1:07:20
Speaker 1: Why I said this is that is exactly the experience
1:07:22
Speaker 1: I expect to have with my father, my god.
1:07:25
Speaker 2: Four stars from Maria. How high should you be to
1:07:28
Speaker 2: make something like this? And can I have some? And
1:07:31
Speaker 2: then this one? I don't know if this is creepy
1:07:34
Speaker 2: or funny, but four stars from Mike Gin. If seven
1:07:37
Speaker 2: Japanese high school girls came to visit me, I wouldn't
1:07:40
Speaker 2: eat them. But I guess that's why I'm not the
1:07:41
Speaker 2: titular house. What the fuck? Yeah? I don't. I mean
1:07:44
Speaker 2: that tracks with the review, but I'm like, what would
1:07:46
Speaker 2: you do? It's kind of creepy anyway? Is what a
1:07:50
Speaker 2: weird way to end? Way to go Austin. If you
1:07:53
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1:08:25
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Speaker 2: have a rating from about a two point four to
1:08:39
Speaker 2: a two point nine. That's the best thing I could
1:08:42
Speaker 2: come up with for a wild card, and this is
1:08:44
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1:08:46
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