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#24 | 50 States of Terror · Corpus Christi Originals Podcast

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  SPEAKER_03: What's going on y'all?
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  SPEAKER_03: It's Ucilari Hernandez here.
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  SPEAKER_03: This is the Corpus Christi Originals podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: Alright, we're live.
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  SPEAKER_03: Welcome to the show, guys.
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  SPEAKER_03: Hello, thank you for having us.
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  SPEAKER_01: Thank you for having us.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I'm happy to have you guys on.
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  SPEAKER_03: I listened to your podcast recently.
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  SPEAKER_03: I think Kaylee reached out or I reached out and then I started.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_05: I uh I saw y'all on Facebook.
• 0:27
  SPEAKER_05: I think you um we we just kept kind of, or I guess it was Instagram, we kept like kind of bouncing around each other.
• 0:33
  SPEAKER_05: And so then I finally just reached out.
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  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, hey, we love your merch, it looks great.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_05: Uh stumbled on your podcast.
• 0:38
  SPEAKER_05: We got to, you know, we were introduced to some cool new local businesses and local people that otherwise I hadn't heard of yet.
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  SPEAKER_05: So thought it would be a good opportunity to kind of you know local support local and get that conversation going.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: And it's like we have to reach out as podcast hosts to help you know get the word out for each other.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's too much.
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  SPEAKER_03: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because we're not like we're not Los Angeles, we're not Dallas, we're not Houston, we're not New York.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's just like one of those things where we have to just keep on, you know, be a within our circle.
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  SPEAKER_01: Let's start this up and then let's boost off from there.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yes, yeah, definitely.
• 1:16
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and I gotta I gotta make a confession.
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  SPEAKER_03: I found you guys uh podcasts on on through looking for Corpus Curity Podcasts probably like a few months ago.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_03: And then and then I'll and I'm always I always listen for like five seconds and I turn it off because I think I'm not into it.
• 1:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so what I heard was it was kind of like the story at first, right?
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_03: And I was like, man, I'm really not into stories or whatever.
• 1:40
  SPEAKER_03: So then I I dropped it, you know, and then when you reached out again, I actually gave it a second lesson.
• 1:45
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, Holy crap, this is really cool, and I like the educational aspect of it, which you guys say he you didn't mean it to be that way.
• 1:53
  SPEAKER_03: We didn't, yeah.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we got we yeah, uh we got notified.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, I do we I love your podcast because it it teaches uh like history.
• 2:02
  SPEAKER_01: You're like, we teach us history.
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  SPEAKER_05: Well, what yeah, so our our podcast is about cryptids.
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  SPEAKER_05: So if um if anybody who's tuning in is not familiar with what that is, our podcast is called Fifty States of Terror, and we cover United States and its territories, cryptids and monsters.
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  SPEAKER_05: So a cryptid would be any kind of animal or creature that is not confirmed by science, so can neither be proven or disproven.
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  SPEAKER_05: So that's gonna be like Bigfoot, Mothman, Loch Ness Monster.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like those are all cryptids.
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  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, crazy.
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  SPEAKER_05: And we do we start off our episode with a story or an introduction.
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  SPEAKER_05: I for me, I thought it would be more interesting than just being like, Hey everybody, welcome to Fifty States of Terror.
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  SPEAKER_05: Today we're gonna talk about this.
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  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: So when Anthony and I were brainstorming, I was like, Well, what if we did it like, you know, a different scenario that introduced it?
• 2:52
  SPEAKER_05: So, like, we've got some episodes where the monster comes and approaches someone or someone hears something in the woods, and it's just more of an interesting way, I think, to kind of be like, Oh, this is what we're talking about.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like, can you guess what it is by the end of the encounter?
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  SPEAKER_05: And then yeah, we go into our our banter and our case presentation as we call it now.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_03: Now that think about yeah, yeah, go ahead, sorry.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, no, no.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, we we were listening to a bunch of different podcasts too, and uh, we didn't find that a lot of podcasts that did that started off that way.
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  SPEAKER_01: So I we wanted to do something different so people can get like hooked on something, whether it was a story, whether it was you know, the the the way that we introed or how we presented it, uh it was one of those things to really like, let's just try it and see if it works.
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  SPEAKER_01: And and I we love doing it.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's cool.
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  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like a little production thing too.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's it's pretty nice.
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  SPEAKER_01: I like that.
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  SPEAKER_01: And I cannot take any credit for that at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's that is all over here, all her.
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  SPEAKER_05: We we started out like um, so I started off podcasting a little bit before Anthony and I really got started.
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  SPEAKER_05: Excuse me.
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  SPEAKER_05: And my sister has a podcast, she has the the Housecraft Network, which covers things that are like witchy, and that's while I enjoy witchy aesthetic, like I am not a witchy person, but she would bring me on for history episodes.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_05: They would be talking about folklore and things like that.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_05: And I have like a really unique upbringing that kind of presented that information to me, like at a younger age.
• 4:24
  SPEAKER_05: So it's like, oh yeah, you guys are talking about werewolves, cool.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_05: I'll talk about the Beast of Jevu Dawn, which is a werewolf story from the werewolf French or the French werewolf trials, which is kind of like the witchcraft trials that we had.
• 4:38
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, but people were being burned for being werewolves, and like that was the big thing that was happening.
• 4:42
  SPEAKER_05: Wow.
• 4:43
  SPEAKER_05: So she started bringing me on for those, and I kind of got hooked on just learning to make content.
• 4:49
  SPEAKER_05: I was recording in my closet with a blanket over my head with an Xbox controller headset, and my audio was flash, like locked in the closet.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_01: He was like, Do not talk to me for two hours.
• 5:01
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Okay, cool.
• 5:03
  SPEAKER_05: But we were also getting drunk at the same time.
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  SPEAKER_05: So, like, I would take my son's beanbag and put it in there with like a little laptop stand and have like a big sippy cup and a blanket over my head, like just drinking, and like, I'm not built for the South Texas weather.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not from here, I'm not built for it.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I would come out drenched, like drunk and sweating, and like, I want to make another podcast.
• 5:25
  SPEAKER_05: And I don't know how why that was the reaction, but Anthony and I started brainstorming, like, could we do this?
• 5:31
  SPEAKER_05: Could we do it?
• 5:32
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, yeah, because I wanted to do something that was more story driven because uh I'm trying to be a writer.
• 5:38
  SPEAKER_01: I I had I wrote a book and I have my own um uh vocal page where I put all my short stories that were uh listed into contest.
• 5:46
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't win any, but like I I truly wanted I I truly want to be a published author, and I wanted to make a podcast that was uh story driven and and uh expose uh my my uh my writing.
• 6:00
  SPEAKER_01: And we just kind of collaborated and and then through trial and error and through a bunch of like you know personal, I want to do this, you want to do that, let's just like kind of mish it together, and it became the show.
• 6:14
  SPEAKER_01: And then through the evolution of the show, it it is what it is now, which is far better than where where we started.
• 6:21
  SPEAKER_01: Um but it's it's super fun to hear people talk about how we do the show and how it progressed from like these 30-minute um just kind of us talking about it to an actual history deep, deep research and uh interviews and things like that.
• 6:44
  SPEAKER_01: That it was like, man, this this might go somewhere, and we are going to enjoy this ride.
• 6:50
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man, that's awesome, dude.
• 6:52
  SPEAKER_03: Wow, that's so cool.
• 6:53
  SPEAKER_03: So what was it named 50 States of Terror when you started it?
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, so we were um brainstorming ideas, and nothing really stuck.
• 7:02
  SPEAKER_05: And I feel like the the trend of my life is like nothing sticks, nothing sticks, and I'm like, fine, F it, and I just come up with a name and that's where it went.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_05: That's how we named our children, that's how we named our podcast.
• 7:13
  SPEAKER_05: It was like, yeah, what are we gonna name it?
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_05: What are we gonna name it?
• 7:16
  SPEAKER_05: What about this?
• 7:18
  SPEAKER_05: And then that's just the end of the discussion, and we don't go any further.
• 7:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because my the book that I the book that I wrote is uh in adventure fantasy about cryptids.
• 7:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh and uh we were talking about what we're gonna talk about because we wanted to do like horror, we wanted to do monsters, uh ghosts, uh sightings, UFOs, and we're like, you know what, let's just let's just stick with this and then see where this goes.
• 7:42
  SPEAKER_01: And we might branch off later on if we get you know a bunch of listeners or a following, we can see where we personally want to take this and then create something much larger than what we have right now.
• 7:55
  SPEAKER_01: Uh, because I still do want to do a story-driven uh show.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_01: Uh one of our favorite ones um is uh old gods of Appalachia, which I just started.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_01: And it's very story-driven, but it also presents a an insane amount of of research and and um uh uh historical topics that they do through the story.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's it's fascinating.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they have a large, large following.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's where personally I think we want to be at is just a large collaboration of the stories and and uh and things that we can tell through the podcast.
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  SPEAKER_03: Man, that's awesome, dude.
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  SPEAKER_03: That's that's awesome.
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  SPEAKER_03: It's just like you guys got a goal.
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_03: You have a goal where you want to go.
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  SPEAKER_03: So why podcasting?
• 8:36
  SPEAKER_03: I mean, uh uh were y'all into podcasting.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_03: Well, I know Kaylee was in with her sisters, so I guess that was your initial uh wanting to get into it.
• 8:45
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that was uh that was the initial bug that kind of gave us the bite.
• 8:49
  SPEAKER_05: I I feel like I've always been theatrical, I guess.
• 8:53
  SPEAKER_05: I've always been that presenter.
• 8:55
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I'm pretty sure the only reason I'm in sales is because everybody kept telling me my entire life that I was going to be in sales.
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  SPEAKER_05: And it was like, oh, you could sell a ketchup popsicle to a lady in white gloves.
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  SPEAKER_05: Like I just kept hearing that kind of thing growing up.
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  SPEAKER_05: Or, you know, I would I would hear like, oh, like you have a really soothing voice or this and that.
• 9:15
  SPEAKER_05: Never in person, it's only my podcast voice because this is not my always voice.
• 9:19
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but it was it just when I would work for small companies, uh it was, oh, we need to set up our voicemail.
• 9:26
  SPEAKER_05: Can can you set up our voicemail?
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_05: Can you record that?
• 9:29
  SPEAKER_05: And I I used to teach painting here in town at um at painting with a twist.
• 9:34
  SPEAKER_05: So it's a great place for a date night if you ever decide to go.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_05: They're great.
• 9:37
  SPEAKER_05: The girls are lovely.
• 9:39
  SPEAKER_05: But that was always um, I was presenting and I was in front of the group and I was doing that kind of thing.
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_05: So I feel like this kind of feeds into my low-key narcissism.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_05: Like I get to make something and it's all about me and it's great.
• 9:52
  SPEAKER_05: But it's also a different form of expression.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I hadn't done audio editing before.
• 9:58
  SPEAKER_05: We started this and we had someone who was editing our podcast for the first few episodes, and you know, life happened, like they had other stuff going on, and they unfortunately were not able to continue helping us.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_05: And they gave me some pointers.
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  SPEAKER_05: It wasn't like a high and dry situation, no hard feelings.
• 10:14
  SPEAKER_05: But I was like, okay, well, now I'm gonna learn how to do this.
• 10:18
  SPEAKER_05: And so I took my my brief musical background of doing musical theater and you know, competitive choir and singing and everything when I was younger.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, okay, cool.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I can listen for this level and I know how to listen for this.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_05: How do I make it balance and taking that artistry and applying it to audio?
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_05: So it's been a lot of fun.
• 10:36
  SPEAKER_01: And let that be a true testament of like the the the dedication that Kaylee puts in the show.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like everything you hear from the show is nobody else.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's her doing the editing, the splicing, the uh production, um and uh like damn near everything else.
• 10:55
  SPEAKER_01: And all I do is sit around and tell dick jokes and and you're so sweet.
• 11:02
  SPEAKER_05: It really we we do like we always have like the hashtag for dad jokes because we love the low-hanging fruit of the jokes that are there, but there have definitely been times where I'm like, are you not gonna make a a a penis joke here?
• 11:15
  SPEAKER_05: Like, do I need to do it?
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_05: Or so our episode is definitely we put an explicit filter on there because we don't we do not get political, like we we don't we don't really dive into that.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_05: We try not to get political, we try not to, but they we do put an explicit filter on there because yeah, we love a well-placed F-bomb.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_05: Don't get me wrong.
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  SPEAKER_05: When it's appropriate, it's appropriate.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_05: If I tell the joke and your kid hears it, that's my fault.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_05: If they get the joke, that's your fault, and I don't want anything to do with it.
• 11:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, but um and we know we know through our research, you know, if we do the historical background of where these cryptids are from, and you re go back to like the 16th century, 17th century, 18th century, we know that the American, the uh the America growing up was just in a horrific place to be for a lot of people.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_01: So like we understand that and we tell you up front, like this is not going to be easy for some people to listen about your history, but in order to understand where these monsters, cryptids, and legends come from, we have to first understand the location, and and that's where that comes from.
• 12:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I love that, dude.
• 12:23
  SPEAKER_03: I love that.
• 12:24
  SPEAKER_03: I think that's why I find it so fascinating because I don't know about these places, you know.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_03: Excuse me.
• 12:30
  SPEAKER_03: And even in like high school, I didn't care about history or nothing like that, you know.
• 12:34
  SPEAKER_03: And it's yeah, so it's like I'm learning it just now.
• 12:37
  SPEAKER_03: I'm almost 40 years old, and and it's like fascinating to me, you know, for for whatever reason.
• 12:42
  SPEAKER_03: So that's that's pretty cool that y'all do that.
• 12:44
  SPEAKER_05: I think taking oh, go ahead, Anthony.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: No, please, no, please, go ahead.
• 12:47
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I think adding a fantasy element where I mean, if we're gonna be if we're gonna talk about monsters and everything, let's let's go ahead and be straightforward.
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_05: I do not believe in anything like at all.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_05: I don't, I am I am the true skeptic and he or I'm the certified skeptic and he is the true believer.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like it's almost buddy cop scenario, like where it's like, you know, like the greff, I'm like, that's not real.
• 13:09
  SPEAKER_05: And he's like, no, Bigfoot is real.
• 13:12
  SPEAKER_05: So we kind of have that balance.
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  SPEAKER_05: But when we start talking about some of the confirmed uh hoaxes that we talk about, and a really good example would be the Colorado rock bolt slider.
• 13:23
  SPEAKER_05: So in in our format, we pick one state and we cover one region or one monster.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_05: We picked that one for Colorado, and it was not an easy history to discuss.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_05: Well, and there are some like really like bad feelings, you know, not in a poor pity-me way, but like obviously I am Caucasian as they come.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm telling these stories about like, hey, look, did I do it?
• 13:44
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely not.
• 13:45
  SPEAKER_05: But am I gonna tell you about these horrible atrocities that happened to the indigenous people of the area?
• 13:50
  SPEAKER_05: And was it done by white people?
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, like let's talk about the colonization of this area because they created a monster in this area specifically for the intention of stealing territory from the native tribes.
• 14:03
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: They did it and they blamed the tribes for things.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_05: They ended up taking children from some of the leaders and were like, hey, we're gonna get rid of the monster, or hey, we're gonna do this, but you have to give us, you know, your children.
• 14:14
  SPEAKER_05: There were just all of these different like land grab scenarios that are happening.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
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  SPEAKER_05: So I think when we're talking about history, where it might history is not interesting to everybody.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_05: And I I know that, I get that.
• 14:24
  SPEAKER_05: But I think when we're like, hey, did you know there's this giant monster that lives on a mountain and it hangs on by its tail and then it swoops down and eats people?
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_05: And you're like, excuse me, what?
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_05: This is real history we're talking about.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's what they told everybody in this mining town and this logging town.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, here's the history as to why they did it.
• 14:43
  SPEAKER_05: And so now you've got a little bit of fantasy that makes it interesting.
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_05: And then you're you're almost it's not that shock and awe.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_05: It's like, oh shit, okay, tell me more.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_05: Like, what did they do after that?
• 14:53
  SPEAKER_05: Did the children ever get back to their parents?
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_02: Yeah.
• 14:56
  SPEAKER_05: And then I get to deliver the bad news that no, those children disappeared into the school system that they were taken from their tribes and put into like the foster school system.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_05: And we try not to shy away from it, but we also really try and be respectful to those different cultures.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_05: Um, we have a couple monsters that we will not talk about until we can get someone from that community that will come and talk to us.
• 15:21
  SPEAKER_05: Because we've we've had requests to talk about um skinwalkers and you know, like trigger warning.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_05: If you already know what the word is gonna be, it starts with a W.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_05: Um, Windigos have been something that people are like, oh, are we gonna do Windigoes?
• 15:35
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, first of all, you're not even really supposed to say the word, isn't my understanding.
• 15:39
  SPEAKER_05: So that's why the quick trigger warning.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_04: Right.
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_05: But until I have someone that is of Algonquian descent or a similar tribe, like we're not gonna do it.
• 15:48
  SPEAKER_05: That's not my story to tell.
• 15:49
  SPEAKER_05: It's not Anthony's story to tell.
• 15:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like, we want to be respectful of these cultures, right?
• 15:53
  SPEAKER_01: And get it and get it right and get the information correct.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's a big that's a big thing too, because um the historical benefit of I'm sorry, not the historical significance of these of these monsters and these cryptids are deep, deep, deep rooted in a lot of indigenous cultures, and we want to get it correct because we don't want to uh get away from the uh importance it has on those peoples, you know, and that's and and to us that's very important, very, very important.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's awesome.
• 16:24
  SPEAKER_03: I was listening to one of the recent ones, I think uh and it had like Catholic uh history inter intertwined in it.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_03: That was kind of interesting.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_03: And and like there's there's a lot of Catholics around here in the South, you know, near Mexico and stuff like that.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_05: Well, Anthony is Catholic, yeah.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: So it's uh yeah, I'm I'm Catholic, you know.
• 16:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh, I don't I don't uh go deep dive to where I was rooted into when I was a kid because we didn't really have a choice of what we were going to do or say during church, when our uprising, but when you start to research what the Catholic Church did a long time ago, and then the the significance of it being tied into these stories.
• 17:07
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, well, you're like you're like, whoa, is did did this really happen?
• 17:11
  SPEAKER_01: And you're like, Yep, it sure as hell did.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
• 17:17
  SPEAKER_03: I didn't expect that, you know.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_03: Which which sometimes we need that that dose of truth, you know, you know, I think and it's cool, and I like how you like how y'all are like uh asking the audience too, hey, if that's wrong, hey, correct us.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_03: We don't mind y'all correcting us.
• 17:32
  SPEAKER_05: I think that's absolutely, yeah.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_05: Absolutely.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_05: I try and make sure that I throw that out there because I get so frustrated when I when I listen to podcasts, and I'm like, that's not right.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_05: That's not right, but they just present it as fact.
• 17:43
  SPEAKER_05: Like, if we can do all the research that we want, but our resource, like our research is only as good as our resources.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_05: So while we may like we do try and look for credible sources and citations, but when it comes down to it, sometimes there's really not a lot of reliable information about our content.
• 18:02
  SPEAKER_05: Like we just did um for Maine, we covered the Spectre Moose, and it's just pretty much a ginormous moose that lives up there, and everybody was trying to hunt.
• 18:09
  SPEAKER_05: It's not the scariest when it comes to like the visceral imagery of it, but moose are terrifying, so it's as scary as it needs to be.
• 18:18
  SPEAKER_05: But we couldn't find, we couldn't find a lot, and so I ended up getting um some old documented scanned newspapers, but even those weren't really like scientific.
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_05: So it's like, look, I can only give you secondhand information, but this is where I found it.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_05: But if you know better than me, and if you are an expert of any kind, like we are more than happy to do a corrections corner, we are more than happy to go back and edit so that way it reflects, you know, as as honest and and straightforward as possible.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_05: So it's it's really important for us to make sure that we do offer that line of communication and kind of throw that out there.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_05: So if you ever catch anything, let us know.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_05: But we do our best to be accurate the first time.
• 18:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_01: Do you have any uh stories of of like monsters and cryptos growing up here?
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: I could because you're from Corpus, correct?
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_03: It's the I mean the Chupacabra, like it seems like that's the only one that I can think of, and my wife mentioned that to me.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_03: Uh uh that really uh I think I did you mention like Bigfoot, right?
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_03: Isn't that a Texas thing?
• 19:19
  SPEAKER_01: It sure is, yeah.
• 19:20
  SPEAKER_05: There's a there is a whole thing in Burclair.
• 19:24
  SPEAKER_05: So Burclair up by Goliad.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_05: There's um, and actually my real job takes me up that direction, and there's like signs for Bigfoot.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_05: There used to be a uh or Big Feet, there used to be a diner there, and they had a Bigfoot burger, and it was supposed to be like the statewide known Bigfoot burger stop, but they had some sightings up that way.
• 19:43
  SPEAKER_05: But I was just talking to someone the other night and they were telling me other stories about Burclair, saying that there's like witches and stuff, and I was like, what's going on out in Burclair?
• 19:54
  SPEAKER_05: Like, this is a no-name spit of a town that's got like a county maintenance department.
• 19:59
  SPEAKER_05: I mean, everybody's been very kind, nothing bad about Burclair, right?
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_05: But it's just like there's not a lot going on out there.
• 20:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like, why are there so many rumors about this place?
• 20:08
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, it's like very no, go ahead, please.
• 20:10
  SPEAKER_03: No, they have like a like a mansion or something.
• 20:14
  SPEAKER_03: They do, yeah.
• 20:15
  SPEAKER_03: In the middle of nowhere, I'm like, oh, what's the it's kind of strange?
• 20:19
  SPEAKER_03: Like, I totally I can totally relate to that because uh I'm a truck driver and I go through there every now and then.
• 20:24
  SPEAKER_05: And I probably pass you on the road.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_05: I'm all up and down those roads all the time.
• 20:28
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I can relate to I could see that for sure, man.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_03: If from Berkeley, that's crazy.
• 20:34
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that's well whenever you're going there, whenever you're going through there next time, look on the uh look on the side that has the uh the county maintenance and the old rundown gas station that's not open anymore.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_05: And there's an old diner and it's got a big Sasquatch out front, and it's got a big sign for a Bigfoot burger.
• 20:49
  SPEAKER_05: It's closed now, but all the signage is still there.
• 20:51
  SPEAKER_05: I'm kind of tempted to go take some pictures out that way for some promo material.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, so you guys are marketing uh your podcast on on Facebook and Instagram?
• 21:02
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we're oh Anthony, go ahead.
• 21:05
  SPEAKER_05: You you you do the spiel on the podcast, so you you tell them where where we're at.
• 21:09
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, well, uh we can find this on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_01: We have uh we're on all of your listening uh devices, your platforms, and we are we do have a Patreon too that has exclusive content where we do something called detour, and it's the stuff that we just uh didn't have a chance to talk about on the show.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: And her and I just kind of just like just talk for about an hour about what's going on with the show and um cool facts that we didn't get into, and then we go on like different tangents and stuff.
• 21:41
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's a it's an opportunity for others to get like a a a little behind the scenes of our of our show, but we we mainly uh advertise on Facebook, Twitter, and uh Instagram.
• 21:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 21:54
  SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
• 21:55
  SPEAKER_03: That Patreon thing is pretty cool, man.
• 21:57
  SPEAKER_03: It is yeah, right.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_03: So So with that, people pay like pay like a monthly serve fee, not a fee, but um like a donation.
• 22:06
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's like a donation.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_05: So it's pretty much like um okay, okay.
• 22:11
  SPEAKER_05: When you think about like, okay, how much do you pay for Netflix every month?
• 22:14
  SPEAKER_05: Patreon is for artists and creators and you know, any kind of content really.
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_05: There's gamers on there.
• 22:21
  SPEAKER_05: You get perks when you sign up.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_05: So like I pay what, like 18 bucks a month for Netflix.
• 22:26
  SPEAKER_05: I don't know what the inflation turned out to be.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_05: Right.
• 22:29
  SPEAKER_05: We have we have tiers as low as$3 a month.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_05: And for$3 a month, you get like um some behind-the-scenes updates, but you also get like voting power.
• 22:39
  SPEAKER_05: We've got some announcements that are coming out pretty soon.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_04: Yep.
• 22:43
  SPEAKER_05: And if you're a member of the Patreon, your vote counts double.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_05: So if we post a poll and we're like, hey, do you guys want this or this kind of content?
• 22:51
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna post that to Patreon too.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_05: And the people who vote on Patreon, we count theirs twice.
• 22:56
  SPEAKER_05: So you kind of get like a little bit more influence on the show.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, we'll reach out, we'll ask our Patreons like different questions, like, hey, would you rather hear this or that?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_05: And sometimes we leave it up to them.
• 23:07
  SPEAKER_05: So it's it's definitely more of a personalized experience.
• 23:10
  SPEAKER_05: And then we have tiers that range all the way up to$20 a month where we actually have a few subscribers there and they get merch options, they get discounts on any merch that we post in the future, they get blooper reels, they get uh the detour episode where yeah, we definitely started talking about dragons in one, and we ended up talking about Star Trek after that.
• 23:30
  SPEAKER_05: So it's it'd me anything.
• 23:33
  SPEAKER_01: And and they and they get a personal written story up to five thousand five thousand words written by me.
• 23:41
  SPEAKER_01: Um and of any any monster, any cryptid, any location, any subject, and I'll I'll write you a story.
• 23:47
  SPEAKER_01: And um, and that's at the$20 tier because uh I I feel I feel like I am I I really really want to to uh get published, and hopefully when I do get published, those stories are worth money for the people.
• 24:03
  SPEAKER_01: So they're like that's cool, man.
• 24:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I I have a I have an original story from from AJ Diaz.
• 24:08
  SPEAKER_01: Here's here's a hundred bucks.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, man, that's cool, bro.
• 24:12
  SPEAKER_03: Dude, that's awesome, man.
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_05: When whenever the people get to choose, because we we uh we've got like three stories in the works for those for those people and those people.
• 24:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um we have one of them that was requested was Bigfoot in a drag show.
• 24:25
  SPEAKER_05: So now Anthony is forced to sit down and write a story about Bigfoot performing in a drag show and interesting cracks me up.
• 24:34
  SPEAKER_01: I love it.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: I love it too.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_01: I love too a little sneak peek.
• 24:37
  SPEAKER_01: The uh the character's name is uh sassy sassy crotch.
• 24:43
  SPEAKER_05: I hadn't heard that yet, but uh it's funny, man.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_05: As the uh as the drag queen enthusiast over here, I'm obsessed.
• 24:51
  SPEAKER_03: Okay, yeah, so so not everybody can just write 500 words, you know what I mean, and just think out of nothing.
• 24:58
  SPEAKER_03: So how long have you been doing that for?
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I've I've been writing um uh off and on for the past like maybe seven or eight years when I got really when I I told myself that I really wanted to do this because I I'm I know I'm not getting any older.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_01: And I I realized where uh I I wanted to do something that perhaps if it did work, my kids can be like, oh yeah, that you know that book that's in the library, that my dad wrote that.
• 25:29
  SPEAKER_01: Wow, you know, and uh ever since I was maybe like 12 or 13, I would pick up a notebook and just write just write stories.
• 25:37
  SPEAKER_01: I I've always wanted to be a writer, and and I know it's a very hard, hard process, and it's very very difficult to get picked up by a publisher.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um, but the the the creative process and just like expressing yourself through written word is is one therapeutic and and two, it could it could possibly help somebody somebody else express themselves through written word as well.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: And when when I started writing uh the book and doing these contests on uh online for with Vogle, um I can I can feel myself whenever I had like a crappy day or or I was in my own head with something, I can write a character and then I can express what the character is feeling, what I'm feeling, and then it's it it became this this therapeutic um session for for me personally.
• 26:36
  SPEAKER_01: And writing 5,000 words seems like a lot, but honestly, 5,000 words is nothing.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_01: Uh when when you start getting in that zone, when words just start pumping out of your brain onto the paper or the screen, you can you can definitely, definitely just get a thousand words in like an hour, and it's it feels fantastic.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, man.
• 27:01
  SPEAKER_03: It's yeah, it's like a like a muscle.
• 27:04
  SPEAKER_03: Uh you you train and train and train, and then it gets it.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_03: Man, that's awesome, dude.
• 27:08
  SPEAKER_03: So you uh Priscilla C says hi on Facebook.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_05: Hello, Priscilla.
• 27:13
  SPEAKER_03: Hey Priscilla.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_03: She's like always says hi, she's awesome.
• 27:18
  SPEAKER_03: Hello, yeah.
• 27:19
  SPEAKER_03: Um, yeah, so so you are you you went the sub self-published route, or um, I think I was listening to the first episode, and you mentioned doing uh self-publishing your recent book.
• 27:31
  SPEAKER_01: Try I'm trying to um I'm still trying to get the the traditional publishing route.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_01: Um self-publishing is a is a lot of work too, um, especially when you don't have an editor.
• 27:43
  SPEAKER_01: Uh uh because editors are expensive.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_01: And when you when you're talking about, well, I want to self-publish this book on Amazon, and then you have to you have to know the the ins and outs of of how to uh market your own book and you have to uh you have to create you know your promotions and you have to do your own um uh agent research and you have to do do all these things in order to make your book successful.
• 28:10
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I think I think if I don't find a publisher with the next like two, maybe two to three years, I I think I'm going to go through the self-publishing route on Amazon and just and just push it, push it, push it um to make sure it it gets some money.
• 28:29
  SPEAKER_01: Because ultimately, yeah, I do love to write, um, but I I do I do want to have a a monet a monetary value to it too.
• 28:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I want to um to have something that's I can be like, yeah, this this book is worth something, whether it's emotionally or monetary.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_01: It's it I I I did it for me, but it also want to do for somebody else.
• 28:52
  SPEAKER_01: And the ultimate goal is too, is to give back to the community.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like if I if I make a book and it sells really well, you know, I want to I want to go back to my alma mater and and I want to uh help teach people how to do this process.
• 29:08
  SPEAKER_01: I want to teach people how to write, you know, how to express themselves.
• 29:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like I the ultimate goal is is to give back to the community that helped us get or me and my wife to the point that we're at right now, you know.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that's cool.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_03: That's cool.
• 29:24
  SPEAKER_03: I I'm I'm stuck on the word monetary, trying to figure out what that means when you're saying it.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_03: Like money Okay, like monetize, monetize.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah.
• 29:32
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, okay.
• 29:33
  SPEAKER_03: So I mean, man, so you several streams of income, I guess.
• 29:38
  SPEAKER_03: Uh what do you so what do you guys do outside of the podcast?
• 29:42
  SPEAKER_05: I um I work for a first aid and safety program.
• 29:47
  SPEAKER_05: So I do um I assist with OSHA compliance, uh first aid trauma response, AEDs.
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_05: That's why I'm driving around all the time.
• 29:55
  SPEAKER_05: I service a lot of like oil field locations, a lot of like midstream facilities, um, everything from fast food to you know my my oil field locations, whatever they need, it's I do mobile sales that way.
• 30:10
  SPEAKER_05: And I only wanted to make sure I said it first because when Anthony says his job, I want it known that I worked in safety before he did.
• 30:19
  SPEAKER_05: For years I worked in here before he worked for where he worked.
• 30:23
  SPEAKER_05: So, Anthony, go ahead, tell everybody what you do.
• 30:25
  SPEAKER_01: I I I I kind of don't want to say the agency I work for, but I will say that I do work for the federal government.
• 30:34
  SPEAKER_01: I do work for an agency that deals with safety.
• 30:38
  SPEAKER_01: Hint, hint, wink, wink.
• 30:41
  SPEAKER_05: And I may mention it to my customers when they don't want to be compliant.
• 30:44
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, oh, cool.
• 30:45
  SPEAKER_05: Do you know where my husband works?
• 30:47
  SPEAKER_05: No, I'm not.
• 30:49
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, I'm not saying you have to buy this for me, but I'm just saying that this place says that you need to have it.
• 30:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 30:56
  SPEAKER_03: Um, that's cool.
• 30:59
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh, yeah.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_03: So uh OSHA was OSHA safeties, man.
• 31:02
  SPEAKER_03: I had a thought.
• 31:03
  SPEAKER_03: Uh that's awesome, man.
• 31:04
  SPEAKER_03: Um yeah, but uh I was thinking about Burke Claire because I go, I used to go to uh what is it, DCP Midstream down there?
• 31:12
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I I serve well, I don't know if I can say who I work for or where I work, but I know what facility you're talking about.
• 31:18
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I've seen it before.
• 31:20
  SPEAKER_03: So how how did you guys get into that?
• 31:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's crazy.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_05: That's like uh Well, my my job actually um kind of fell in my lap a little bit.
• 31:29
  SPEAKER_05: And this is where I say, like, people are always telling me, like, you're gonna be in sales.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_05: Like you are you are set up for sales, like you should be in sales.
• 31:36
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I was I was teaching at painting with a twist because at the time we had a very young child.
• 31:41
  SPEAKER_05: We have a 13-year-old and we have a four-year-old.
• 31:44
  SPEAKER_05: And uh so that was a job that I could do in the evenings.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_05: We didn't have to worry about daycare.
• 31:48
  SPEAKER_05: Anthony worked his, uh, it was a different federal agency at that point, but he worked um, you know, a very standard nine to five kind of Monday through Friday job.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_05: I could stay home with our youngest, which, you know, necess wasn't necessarily like I didn't have that maternal dream of like, I'm gonna be a stay-at-home mom.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like that wasn't, that's not really my personality type.
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_05: Tried it for a minute, didn't work for us.
• 32:09
  SPEAKER_05: That's great.
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_05: But uh working in the evenings was doable.
• 32:13
  SPEAKER_05: So I was working weekends, working evenings, and someone knew someone that worked at uh the company that I work for now.
• 32:20
  SPEAKER_05: And they're like, hey, have you ever thought about going into sales?
• 32:23
  SPEAKER_05: You know how to talk to people.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_05: And you know, didn't guarantee me the job, but at least guaranteed me to get face to face to talk to someone.
• 32:31
  SPEAKER_05: And then, you know, sure enough, went to the first interview, rocked it, did great, went to the next one, rocked it, did great, got a job offer before I got home from San Antonio.
• 32:40
  SPEAKER_05: Um, I had to drive up there for the interview.
• 32:42
  SPEAKER_05: On the way home, I got a call and I was like, oh, this is like a career career.
• 32:46
  SPEAKER_05: This isn't like waiting tables again.
• 32:48
  SPEAKER_05: This isn't, you know, doing this or that.
• 32:50
  SPEAKER_05: And now, you know, I got stuff going on and it's great, and it's been so awesome for our family.
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_05: Like, we actually just bought our first home.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_05: Um, we've got we've got big things in the works, and now we've got our podcast, and so we're, you know, side hustling, like weekends are no longer sleeping in all the time.
• 33:07
  SPEAKER_05: Like now it's get up, like everything is content, everything is content.
• 33:12
  SPEAKER_05: Trying to figure out like how to not be so old because I'm trying to figure out how to work uh Instagram.
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_05: I can relate, man.
• 33:22
  SPEAKER_01: I can relate.
• 33:24
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I and I just uh I'm trying, I'm just trying to climb up the the the corporate ladder, you know, to make enough money to where Kaylee can can not have to work anymore and to do this full time full time.
• 33:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, hey, I'll take it.
• 33:37
  SPEAKER_01: But like I I was in the Marines.
• 33:39
  SPEAKER_01: I did uh I was uh a US Marine from 2004 to 2009.
• 33:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um after that I went to school, I used my GI Bill to go uh to go to um the University of Notre Dame and here in uh AM Corpus Christi.
• 33:54
  SPEAKER_01: Um I worked for a local business and then uh I just wanted to make more money and I went to the oil field, got laid off in the oil field.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh I became a teacher for about six months.
• 34:08
  SPEAKER_05: I Oh, I forgot about that.
• 34:10
  SPEAKER_05: You were a teacher.
• 34:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I dug ditches for when I was, you know, trying to make ends meet, and then I got a uh I went to the unemployment office to see if anybody was hiring, and then um I had my my military background, my DG 14, my my bachelor's degree, and then I got hired on to work on base as a forklift driver.
• 34:32
  SPEAKER_01: And and that's where I started my federal journey.
• 34:34
  SPEAKER_01: And I I bounced around agencies.
• 34:37
  SPEAKER_01: I was from well, CCAD, DLA, uh, I was with the U.S.
• 34:41
  SPEAKER_01: Fish and Wildlife Service, I was with the National Park Service as a park ranger, and and and now I work for Department of Labor.
• 34:47
  SPEAKER_01: And um who knows what I'm gonna do next.
• 34:50
  SPEAKER_01: But just climbing that ladder um is just you know, and I want to do it enough to where I can just say, okay, we have enough saved up, I'm gonna quit my job and write full time.
• 35:03
  SPEAKER_01: Let's do this.
• 35:05
  SPEAKER_05: Well, we need is one of them uh trust funds.
• 35:07
  SPEAKER_05: If we can get one of those, if anybody has any more trust funds to hand out.
• 35:12
  SPEAKER_01: But I tell you what, I tell you what, man, if Netflix or like Hulu gets a hold of my manuscript and be like, I'm gonna make it make it a show.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: Here's 500 grand.
• 35:22
  SPEAKER_01: We're like, cool, job is quitting.
• 35:25
  SPEAKER_05: You were not quitting because you were already so close to retirement, so we're gonna have to.
• 35:28
  SPEAKER_05: I know that.
• 35:30
  SPEAKER_03: I am I'm I'm so close to retirement too.
• 35:33
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, no, dude.
• 35:35
  SPEAKER_03: Man, wait for that retirement.
• 35:37
  SPEAKER_03: Oof, yeah, we got money going there every month.
• 35:39
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we got 15 every month, uh, every paycheck.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_03: So damn, I can't wait.
• 35:43
  SPEAKER_03: I can't wait.
• 35:44
  SPEAKER_03: It's gonna be nice.
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be nice.
• 35:46
  SPEAKER_03: And then we we have our our prop, my wife and I, because I'm married and I have two kids.
• 35:51
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and property is almost paid off probably in a couple years.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_03: Congratulations.
• 35:55
  SPEAKER_03: Nice, yeah, heck yeah, man.
• 35:57
  SPEAKER_03: It's nothing big.
• 35:58
  SPEAKER_03: It's it's it's real, it's small, you know, it's maintainable, but uh true.
• 36:02
  SPEAKER_03: We can we can say, like, hey, we own it, you know what I mean?
• 36:04
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 36:05
  SPEAKER_03: In in two and a half years, and no debt, no consumer debt.
• 36:09
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, we paid off all our credit cards, no car notes.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_03: So the property is the only thing that's gone, and it's it's so free and like to not have any consumer debt at all.
• 36:18
  SPEAKER_05: So yeah, we got we got really, really lucky.
• 36:21
  SPEAKER_05: We uh we've been renting the home that we live in for a few years now, and our landlords were like, Hey, by the way, we're not renewing your lease.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_05: Oh we're like, What?
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_05: Like, we because we're we're really good, like our rent is always on time, it's paid in full.
• 36:35
  SPEAKER_05: Like we do have dogs, but they're not destructive.
• 36:37
  SPEAKER_05: We don't, you know, we did never hit them up with problems, like we fixed stuff ourselves.
• 36:41
  SPEAKER_05: We didn't, we didn't bother them.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_05: And, you know, at first we we were like really shocked of like, okay, well, thanks for giving us a few months' heads up, but like what the heck are we because our our dogs are rescues and they're Dobermans.
• 36:53
  SPEAKER_05: Like a lot of places won't let us live there with Dobermans, and like we're not getting rid of our dogs.
• 36:57
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah.
• 36:58
  SPEAKER_05: So we we had a conversation with them.
• 37:00
  SPEAKER_05: We're like, okay, cool.
• 37:01
  SPEAKER_05: Did we do something?
• 37:02
  SPEAKER_05: And they're like, no, we just we just don't want to rent anymore.
• 37:04
  SPEAKER_05: Like, we want to retire, we want to buy an RV and do the damn thing.
• 37:07
  SPEAKER_05: And we're like, okay, cool.
• 37:09
  SPEAKER_05: Uh can can we buy the house?
• 37:11
  SPEAKER_05: And so they they gave us a deal, they discounted the house, they paid half our closing cost.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_05: We didn't have a down payment because uh Anthony with his veteran background got a VA loan.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_02: Awesome.
• 37:23
  SPEAKER_05: And so for the cost it would have taken us realistically to move into a new home, uh, we got to buy this one.
• 37:28
  SPEAKER_05: And so I painted the living room black, and now the backyard's all decorated, and now it's ours, and we get to do all the things, and we're really excited.
• 37:35
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we get we get to do what we want with the house.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_05: You're no kidding.
• 37:40
  SPEAKER_05: So there's definitely a a freeing, like when you're talking about like, oh yeah, it's freeing.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_05: Like, I know we've got a lot of years to pay still, but I'm I'm super excited to to be on that same journey, and you know, like maybe we'll have an interview in in like 15 years time and we'll be like, hey, yeah, you know, we were talking about you paying off your house.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_05: Like, we're right there with you now.
• 37:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because I I never thought I would I would own a home ever because I've moved around so much through through my childhood.
• 38:06
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I never thought I would.
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, why?
• 38:08
  SPEAKER_01: Why would I own a home?
• 38:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like I I'm so used to leaving someplace every three, four, five years.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Crazy.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Why, why have a spot?
• 38:15
  SPEAKER_01: And then they're like, well, it clicked.
• 38:17
  SPEAKER_01: We have kids, they they enjoyed the school.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_01: The school's great.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: You know, I have an opportunity to have a piece of property that's mine, right?
• 38:24
  SPEAKER_01: And my and my wife's like, like, why not why not do it?
• 38:27
  SPEAKER_05: So we can just thanks for throwing me in there at the end, like, oh, and and my wife.
• 38:31
  SPEAKER_05: Women are allowed to own property now.
• 38:33
  SPEAKER_05: I remember I even have my own credit card, it's amazing.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, and then like you were mentioning, I think earlier about like live legacy for your kids too.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_03: Because I mean, after we're gone, our I mean, we could have something to leave to our kids.
• 38:51
  SPEAKER_03: If no, you know what I mean?
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_03: It's just uh it's just thinking, uh, thinking ahead, you know, because there's my daughter in the back.
• 38:59
  SPEAKER_03: You want to say hi, mama?
• 39:00
  SPEAKER_03: She keeps coming by, she wants to say hi.
• 39:02
  SPEAKER_05: No, what's her name?
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_03: Or if your name is Francesca.
• 39:05
  SPEAKER_05: Francesca, that's a pretty name.
• 39:08
  SPEAKER_02: You want to say hi?
• 39:09
  SPEAKER_02: Come on, come on, they're gonna say hi.
• 39:12
  SPEAKER_02: Here's the headphones.
• 39:13
  SPEAKER_02: Say hi.
• 39:15
  SPEAKER_05: Hi, Francesca.
• 39:16
  SPEAKER_05: How are you?
• 39:18
  SPEAKER_05: You're so pretty.
• 39:20
  SPEAKER_05: I love your bangs, they're like real sassy, like just like that little bit right there.
• 39:26
  SPEAKER_05: Thank you.
• 39:27
  SPEAKER_04: Thank you.
• 39:28
  SPEAKER_05: She's like, Lady, I don't know you.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_05: Don't talk to me.
• 39:32
  SPEAKER_04: Stranger danger.
• 39:33
  SPEAKER_05: Stranger danger, yeah.
• 39:35
  SPEAKER_05: I wish our kids had Stranger Danger.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, she's she's cool, man.
• 39:40
  SPEAKER_03: She's I love her, lover a lot.
• 39:41
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, yeah, she comes in, she makes videos too.
• 39:44
  SPEAKER_03: Like she sees me making yeah, she sees me making videos, and she'll open up photo booth on the iMac and she'll just all right guys, we're gonna do this.
• 39:51
  SPEAKER_03: And she's like doing like tutorials and stuff.
• 39:54
  SPEAKER_01: Isn't it isn't it so fascinating how how already like instantaneously they know what to do with it with a camera?
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_01: Like it it's almost mind-boggling to what like what our our our children do with the the camera.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: They they're they already know to put it put up to their faces and and talk as if they're as as if they're doing an instructional video.
• 40:19
  SPEAKER_01: And it's um and like I'm thinking like when I because I'm 40 and I'm thinking when I was their age, I was eating I was eating dirt with the with my you know outside playing football and or skateboarding and and like busting up my my bones, you know.
• 40:36
  SPEAKER_01: They're like and they already know how to work it.
• 40:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's it's and it's crazy.
• 40:41
  SPEAKER_01: We don't use the word crazy, it's flabbergasting to think it's flabbergasting to think that they already already know what to do.
• 40:49
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I'm like, I feel so old.
• 40:54
  SPEAKER_05: So I want to jump in before before we get too far because Anthony kind of like touched into like we don't say crazy because that was a that was a kind of a pivotal point.
• 41:02
  SPEAKER_05: And I don't know if you got a chance to check out our mental health episode.
• 41:05
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, I heard the first we've done a couple um we've done a couple bonus episodes, and one of them we brought in a doctor of psychology from here at TAMUCC.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_05: So a friend of ours, uh Dr.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_05: Dr.
• 41:18
  SPEAKER_05: Anthony Zocalilo, uh joined us and we got to have a conversation um really about our content, so like about monsters encrypted and everything like that.
• 41:28
  SPEAKER_05: But it was like, should we automatically discount when people say, like, oh, I saw an alien or oh, I saw Bigfoot or I saw this and that?
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_05: Are are they crazy?
• 41:38
  SPEAKER_05: Like, is that you know, I'm I'm trying not to say people are crazy as much because I know that can be kind of like a a polarizing or triggering word.
• 41:45
  SPEAKER_05: And so it was so cool to have this educated conversation about like what is the difference between delusion and hallucination?
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_05: What are different disorders that cause these things?
• 41:55
  SPEAKER_05: And so that was a uh a special episode we did for May, which is mental health awareness month.
• 42:00
  SPEAKER_05: And so we got to have like this really cool experience with a very educated guest, and he's actually going to be coming back and joining us for a future episode in our next season.
• 42:09
  SPEAKER_05: And so we've we've had some some super awesome guests, and I don't know if you've met uh some of the the other ones.
• 42:15
  SPEAKER_05: So I know we had uh scuba Steve, uh Lord Scuba Cabra, join us, and he's got the uh somewhat supernatural podcast, he's local as well.
• 42:24
  SPEAKER_05: Oh he's also a karaoke DJ, and I don't know if he how much information he wants me to give out about him.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_05: So if you decide to hit him up, uh go for it.
• 42:33
  SPEAKER_05: Um, we've kind of talked about having our our friend Ben, who has the Recycled Corn podcast, who's also here local.
• 42:40
  SPEAKER_05: Crazy.
• 42:41
  SPEAKER_05: Um we were we were talking, we're I'm not sure how joking we are, but about joining him for his uh season finale coming up.
• 42:48
  SPEAKER_02: Wow.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_05: We've talked about having him on.
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_05: I know for our Texas episode, I want to get as many local people in on our Texas episode, even if they don't have stories, just like voice contributions so we can really drive in that local supporting local other podcast and join us for that one, even if it's in the encounter and we just have like multiple people talking.
• 43:08
  SPEAKER_05: So it's a it's exciting to see like this community that we're really building down here.
• 43:14
  SPEAKER_05: Um, my sister lives in Colorado.
• 43:16
  SPEAKER_05: So when she and I were doing things, it was like, okay, 7 p.m.
• 43:19
  SPEAKER_05: your time or my time?
• 43:21
  SPEAKER_05: Like, what are we doing?
• 43:22
  SPEAKER_05: Like, and all of all of our resources were there.
• 43:25
  SPEAKER_05: So we came across some folks down here, and we actually are now on the board for the Coastal Bin Creator Con, which is going to be all about learning how to produce content, make content, market content.
• 43:37
  SPEAKER_05: And that's coming in 2023.
• 43:39
  SPEAKER_05: We've got some announcements coming.
• 43:41
  SPEAKER_05: So if you know, if even if you're interested in learning like more about that, hi Ben, Ben's in the chat.
• 43:49
  SPEAKER_03: So nice.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_05: So if you're interested in like learning how to do content and things like that, I would definitely go check out.
• 43:55
  SPEAKER_05: We've got our Facebook page and our Instagram.
• 43:57
  SPEAKER_05: So it's Coastalbin CreatorCons.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm dyslexic, so I'm really glad I got that out all in one go.
• 44:05
  SPEAKER_05: Um, so we've got like the local influencers, I think they were the number three podcast um this year in the best of the best.
• 44:13
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, we placed top five.
• 44:15
  SPEAKER_05: We didn't place top three, but that's but we did make top five, so that was very exciting.
• 44:19
  SPEAKER_03: That's awesome.
• 44:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, there's so many podcasts that I never even heard of.
• 44:22
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, yeah, we had Abel, uh, I think it's Abel Ozuna, he was like the second or third guest on, and he told me.
• 44:30
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, I thought that was cool.
• 44:31
  SPEAKER_03: That creator con that he that he started.
• 44:34
  SPEAKER_03: I was like, that's it's pretty cool, you know, for for us to learn stuff and and create stuff.
• 44:39
  SPEAKER_03: We're really excited.
• 44:40
  SPEAKER_01: We just had a meeting.
• 44:42
  SPEAKER_01: It's definitely one of one of a kind.
• 44:44
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I have I haven't heard anything um about people bringing creators in to teach how to do this stuff.
• 44:52
  SPEAKER_01: Because let's all let's all face it, this is the future of of entertainment right here.
• 44:56
  SPEAKER_01: This this is it.
• 44:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like whether it's going to be VR or it's going to be um uh people doing this over the phone, you know, just having conversations.
• 45:08
  SPEAKER_01: Um, this this is how entertainment's going to be.
• 45:11
  SPEAKER_01: Because I personally listen to a bunch of actual play podcasts about Dungeons and Dragons and Pathfinder.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_01: I I'm a huge nerd.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm a huge nerd.
• 45:20
  SPEAKER_01: And I I and I listen to these things religiously.
• 45:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like I am fixated on on my headphones, listening to how they interact and and how they um they produce a scene together.
• 45:34
  SPEAKER_01: And and this is this is like the future of of you know of modern entertainment.
• 45:40
  SPEAKER_01: Um and we're what we're going to do is we're going to showcase how we do our stuff, how other people do their stuff, and and and hopefully people will um expand their brand.
• 45:54
  SPEAKER_01: Uh they will um they'll uh expand their product and their podcast and and you know and take it to where they want to go.
• 46:04
  SPEAKER_01: And this is fantastic.
• 46:05
  SPEAKER_01: And and I'm I'm super honored to be on the on the on the board also.
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_01: And uh I I just I just kind of wish that that I knew how to do TikTok videos because I would do I would do that too.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: But I I'm afraid I'll just sound stupid.
• 46:23
  SPEAKER_05: Man, creating content is hard, like hard, it's super hard.
• 46:27
  SPEAKER_05: And and maybe it's because we're old, and like I've definitely made some pretty open Facebook pages or posts about like guys, I have the old, I need a youth to come teach me how to do some things.
• 46:37
  SPEAKER_05: If you are a youth and you are interesting, or you know, interested in tutoring an elder millennial, yeah, please hit me up.
• 46:44
  SPEAKER_05: I have some questions.
• 46:45
  SPEAKER_01: Because there's a science to it.
• 46:47
  SPEAKER_01: There there is a science to it.
• 46:49
  SPEAKER_05: The algorithm, the uh the the total performance, yeah.
• 46:53
  SPEAKER_01: How how the cameras position, what angle it is, the lighting, what you're doing, how you say it.
• 46:58
  SPEAKER_01: Do you pause, do you do one-minute video, three-minute videos, 15-second highlight story?
• 47:04
  SPEAKER_01: Dude, it is it is it is it is mind-boggling to think the science behind some of the top-tier creators, um, and how they do stuff, and then it's very hard to replicate.
• 47:16
  SPEAKER_01: Very, very hard to replicate.
• 47:18
  SPEAKER_01: And when you when but if you got it, you're golden, you know?
• 47:24
  SPEAKER_04: Yeah, for sure.
• 47:25
  SPEAKER_05: That's where our research skills come in.
• 47:26
  SPEAKER_05: Because like I've definitely been watching, like, I'm not even ashamed.
• 47:29
  SPEAKER_05: I'm watching like YouTube tutorials, and some of them I'm like, please do not talk down to me.
• 47:34
  SPEAKER_05: I'm not stupid.
• 47:35
  SPEAKER_05: I can like, you know, I don't know why we ever gave up MySpace in the beginning because they were teaching us how to code and do all sorts of things, and we ditched them for Facebook, and now I'm like an elder millennial that doesn't know how to do anything.
• 47:46
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, guys, please.
• 47:49
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure, man.
• 47:51
  SPEAKER_03: I do a little, I do like a little bit of software development.
• 47:53
  SPEAKER_03: I got into it a little bit, and um uh having my understanding of that and like web development stuff helped me a little bit with content creation because, like you say, like algorithm, like they have it set a certain way.
• 48:07
  SPEAKER_03: So you have to make TikTok videos that are catchy, you know what I mean?
• 48:10
  SPEAKER_03: And how do you how do you how do you keep person's attention?
• 48:13
  SPEAKER_03: And if you keep that person's attention for like you know, like 10 seconds, then they're gonna keep promoting your video because it's watchable, you know what I mean?
• 48:22
  SPEAKER_03: So you have to learn how to make content according to what the algorithm wants, right?
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, that way you can catch those catch those trends as they're coming up for sure.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_05: Exactly.
• 48:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and then you have those those you have those outliers, you have people like Joe Rogan who can just sit sit down for three hours and talk to somebody, and then it's a phenomenal just back and forth conversation.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: But yeah, but you have to understand that it's a conversational, uh he's a conversationalist talking about about like a topic, and some of his content is crazy, well, it's off all through ridiculous.
• 48:58
  SPEAKER_01: But there are there are some things that he talks to like uh top-known scientists like Neil deGrasse-Tyson, and he talks physics.
• 49:05
  SPEAKER_01: Uh he and he talks, you know, space travel and um the existence of universes and uh and alien life form and space X and and the environment, things like that.
• 49:16
  SPEAKER_01: And I and yeah, it's that's an outlier.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_03: He he can he could do that, but I know I know like I am not that we are not that level we want to be, but but yeah, it's yeah, yeah, that's kind of that's one of the reasons why I did I did the podcast in the format that I did it in, so that we it's like conversation, like you're saying.
• 49:39
  SPEAKER_03: I I totally agree that this is the form of entertainment now.
• 49:42
  SPEAKER_03: Humans interacting with other humans, just it it being live is important, it's important uh for us for people to watch and see.
• 49:51
  SPEAKER_03: And and like you said, Joe Rogan has three hours, his episodes are like three hours long.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_03: Uh, and just people have somebody having a conversation with somebody who's more knowledgeable than them about whatever they're talking about, and it's like uh that's that's why I chose that to begin with for the format of of the podcast that I do.
• 50:10
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, uh, yeah.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_05: Is that of course I've got some feelings on Joe Rogan, but I don't know if they're gonna be welcome.
• 50:15
  SPEAKER_05: So I'll just pass on the Joe Rogan.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, it's I think he's a little uh he's a little out there.
• 50:20
  SPEAKER_05: Um, but no, I see uh I see Ben is popping in.
• 50:23
  SPEAKER_05: So this is uh Ben Dalion is the one that I was saying has uh the recycled corn podcast.
• 50:28
  SPEAKER_01: Listening to the recycled corn uh corn uh podcast, it is it is funny.
• 50:32
  SPEAKER_01: It's it's funny.
• 50:34
  SPEAKER_05: He uh 100% called me out for not inviting him to my birthday party, even though I'd never met the man.
• 50:40
  SPEAKER_05: And um we're actually meeting for the first time a little bit later today, and I was listening to it, and uh he had our friend uh scuba on, uh, who he refers to as his assistant, and scuba strongly, strongly says he is not his assistant, he is his co-host, which is a whole thing that they do.
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_05: But uh Ben says in the in the comments here, he's like, I make content that really uh that really only makes me laugh.
• 51:04
  SPEAKER_05: So I could probably use some education too.
• 51:06
  SPEAKER_05: And I will say that Ben makes me laugh as well.
• 51:09
  SPEAKER_05: Um we we crack up at the the little the little quips he puts out there.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_05: But yeah, I definitely I tuned in to to an episode and I was like, oh, cool, like Scoob is here and like listening.
• 51:19
  SPEAKER_05: And then Scoob is talking about what he did over the weekend.
• 51:21
  SPEAKER_05: He's like, Yeah, so I went to my friend Kaylee's birthday party.
• 51:24
  SPEAKER_05: Uh they had a Halloween theme because I did halfway to Halloween, my birthday is late April.
• 51:29
  SPEAKER_05: And he's like, Well, I didn't get an invite, and then like sad, horrible music or the recording edition of My Heart Will Go On starts playing.
• 51:38
  SPEAKER_05: And I'm like, How am I in this episode?
• 51:41
  SPEAKER_05: And then I sent it to Anthony.
• 51:43
  SPEAKER_05: I was like, listen, they talk about us in our podcast at this marker, and then I was done for work for the day.
• 51:49
  SPEAKER_05: So I like, you know, turn my car off, uh, go back out the next day, start it up, and the episode starts playing again.
• 51:55
  SPEAKER_05: Four minutes in, they talk about it again.
• 51:57
  SPEAKER_05: I'm like, I I ended my day with it and the sad recorder Titanic song, and that's how I'm starting my day again today.
• 52:03
  SPEAKER_05: And so, like, I'm just like belly laughing, like ugly laughing on SPID, just like in my big vehicle, like like I pictured that gif with like the it's like a bearded dragon, it's got like all the double chins, like that's how I was laughing.
• 52:21
  SPEAKER_03: That's great.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_03: That's great.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_03: Man, it's good, it's awesome to have you guys on.
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much for having us.
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you so much, man.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah, it's been it's been uh uh a sheer pleasure.
• 52:31
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, for sure.
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_05: Anything else?
• 52:32
  SPEAKER_05: Anything you guys want to share?
• 52:34
  SPEAKER_05: Um, we have some big announcements coming.
• 52:36
  SPEAKER_05: So for people who are familiar with our podcast, we've got some new format coming out.
• 52:41
  SPEAKER_05: We're really excited for.
• 52:43
  SPEAKER_05: Um, the announcement is gonna be coming very, very shortly.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_05: And we also have a special, um, Anthony, should we talk about our special that's coming up in October?
• 52:52
  SPEAKER_05: Sure, go ahead.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_05: All right, so October, we're gonna take a little bit of a deviation from our normal content where it's gonna be you know, every state has encrypted, and we're going through that.
• 53:01
  SPEAKER_05: Um, we have a lot of really interesting, really cool people at our fingertips, and it would be a shame to not use them.
• 53:08
  SPEAKER_05: So for the month of October, we're really gonna be amping up the more accessible monster stories.
• 53:15
  SPEAKER_05: And we have a few people that are that are on the roster for who we're having join us, but we're gonna do like monsters in different formats.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_05: So we've got some some folks that do a horror movie podcast.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_05: Yep.
• 53:27
  SPEAKER_05: Uh, they're talking about joining us.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_05: We're gonna talk about monsters in movies.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_05: We've got a um a friend of our who is a is an awesome artist, and he's gonna come and talk to us about uh monster and art.
• 53:39
  SPEAKER_05: And then I have another guest that you know I'm gonna kind of talk to her about it.
• 53:43
  SPEAKER_05: I just interviewed her for our my the other podcast I work on, and it's actually Bram Stoker's granddaughter.
• 53:50
  SPEAKER_05: So the the man who wrote Dracula, I got to interview her recently.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_05: Her name's Shanna Stoker.
• 53:55
  SPEAKER_05: Yeah, and I'm gonna see if she's interested in coming and joining us for monsters and literature and kind of round out that uh that content.
• 54:01
  SPEAKER_05: So we're really excited.
• 54:02
  SPEAKER_05: We've got big stuff coming up, we've got merch coming up.
• 54:05
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we we just need to find somebody who who knows about monsters and music, and and it'll it'll complete the whole entire circle.
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_05: Oh, that would be sweet, yeah.
• 54:13
  SPEAKER_05: So uh if you're a monster musician, uh I I have one of the Guar members on my Facebook.
• 54:18
  SPEAKER_05: I still think we should uh hit them up and see.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 54:20
  SPEAKER_01: If that'd be cool, hell yeah.
• 54:23
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah, that'd be awesome.
• 54:25
  SPEAKER_01: But uh uh shameless plug, shameless plug time.
• 54:28
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you can find us on Facebook, 50 States of Terror, you can find us on uh Instagram, 50 States of Terror, you can find us on Twitter at 50 States Terror without the of because of the character limitations.
• 54:41
  SPEAKER_01: Uh you can find um my writing on vocalslash uh Anthony Diaz.
• 54:47
  SPEAKER_01: Um you can find uh all of our content on Patreon too.
• 54:50
  SPEAKER_01: If you want to be a subscriber, um you get all the bonus content, you get the behind the scenes, you get um uh when we do get sponsors, hopefully we get sponsors, you'll get that ad free through our Patreon.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, they're coming.
• 55:05
  SPEAKER_01: We're super close.
• 55:07
  SPEAKER_01: We're we're super close.
• 55:08
  SPEAKER_01: We're super close.
• 55:09
  SPEAKER_01: Uh so yeah, uh we're 50 states of terror.
• 55:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um, and thank you all for listening who who have been on this ride of ours.
• 55:17
  SPEAKER_01: We truly, truly, truly appreciate everything.
• 55:20
  SPEAKER_03: Yes, awesome.
• 55:21
  SPEAKER_03: I'll leave links in the description as well where you can.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_03: Awesome.
• 55:23
  SPEAKER_03: Thank you.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_03: Yeah.
• 55:24
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_03: You're welcome, you're welcome.
• 55:27
  SPEAKER_03: All right, guys.
• 55:28
  SPEAKER_03: If nothing else, we appreciate y'all being on.
• 55:29
  SPEAKER_03: We see y'all later.
• 55:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, man.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_01: Later.
• 55:32
  SPEAKER_03: Bye.
• 55:33
  SPEAKER_03: Bye.
• 55:34
  SPEAKER_02: Meet Keith, loving dad, board game champ, bus driving pro.
• 55:39
  SPEAKER_00: I drive 65,000 miles in my bus each year.
• 55:42
  SPEAKER_00: If people knew what I know, lives could be saved.
• 55:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like, how they are simply I simply can't see.
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: On my route the other day, a car tried to sneak past me and ends up right in my blind spot.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: I turned slowly, so I can avoid it.
• 55:54
  SPEAKER_00: But no car in the blind spot.
• 55:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's air safety, it's air safety.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is www.share the roadsafely.