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Dr. Kroupa's Natural Health Hours 6-4-25 · Dave Kroupa (DOC)'s show

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  Speaker 9: I just dropped in, see what condition my condition was in?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, welcome everybody to doctor Krupa's Natural Health Hours. If
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  Speaker 8: you tuned in, we're running a little bit behind. We
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  Speaker 8: had some echo stuff going on, but we've got Susie, Bill, myself,
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  Speaker 8: and our producer Steve in the background, and hopefully we'll
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  Speaker 8: be able to continue on. Uh Susie and Bill. If
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  Speaker 8: you guys like to say hello, go ahead, Susie.
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  Speaker 6: Hi, everyone, thanks for joining.
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  Speaker 8: Holy all right, I'm on my phone, So let's take
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  Speaker 8: it away tonight. We were going to talk about sored
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  Speaker 8: throats tonsil itis they would call it sometimes, and issues
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  Speaker 8: of taking out your tonsils, are not taking out your tonsils?
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  Speaker 8: And what do you do when you get a sore throat?
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  Speaker 8: So we're gonna touch on all that. The big thing
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  Speaker 8: that I've seen over the last I don't know, twenty
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  Speaker 8: six years maybe, is by the time your throat tells
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  Speaker 8: you it hurts, it usually looks pretty bad down there.
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  Speaker 8: And so what I've learned to do on everybody is
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  Speaker 8: you can't just take things to make the infection go away,
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  Speaker 8: because the bad guys on your tonsils don't die. And
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  Speaker 8: if you make the mistake of taking antibiotics, so what
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  Speaker 8: happens is the infection on your tonsils never got killed
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  Speaker 8: because you didn't kill the surface bacteria. And every time
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  Speaker 8: you take antibiotics, it comes back faster and more vicious
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  Speaker 8: the next time, and so it just keeps happening and happening.
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  Speaker 8: I had this with a patient and their throat used
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  Speaker 8: to look like moon craters, white moon craters on the
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  Speaker 8: moon in the back of their throat. It was horrible
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  Speaker 8: and they were suffering, and they always waited until it
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  Speaker 8: was too bad. But they had done a lot of
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  Speaker 8: antibiotics before they let me get involved. So what I
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  Speaker 8: started doing, and it worked very very well, is I
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  Speaker 8: would take regular tincture of iodine. I would get the
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  Speaker 8: long cotton swabs and I would swab the throat with iodine.
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  Speaker 8: I mean paint it good. If they have tonsils, i'd
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  Speaker 8: paint them. If they don't have tonsiles, I still paint
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  Speaker 8: where they are because whether you have tonsils or not,
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  Speaker 8: you still get the infection there at the same spot.
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  Speaker 8: And what's happening with the tonsils, it's just like the lipnodes.
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  Speaker 8: It's fighting the infection for you. Unfortunately, sometimes the infection's overpowering.
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  Speaker 8: Your weak immune system might come into play. A lot
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  Speaker 8: of things happen. And even when the tonsils are working perfect,
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  Speaker 8: they still swell up and get sore, because that's what
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  Speaker 8: they're supposed to do. They're trying to contain that infection.
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  Speaker 8: And so I would paint the throat really good. And
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  Speaker 8: when God, I'm a firm believer that just because you
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  Speaker 8: have tonsoles taken out, that tissue does not go away.
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  Speaker 8: It's a gland, and glands have the ability, it seems
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  Speaker 8: to me, to kind of hang around and maybe even
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  Speaker 8: come back. So I would paint the throat with E
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  Speaker 8: and I AM. I would do laser, and I would
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  Speaker 8: do it on both sides of the throat so it
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  Speaker 8: covered the whole area, and then I would start them
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  Speaker 8: on contuplex and andigraphists. Sometimes they have contuplex only, so
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  Speaker 8: I would have them do one conduplex every hour for
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  Speaker 8: the first day, and then if they wake up the
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  Speaker 8: next morning doing a lot better, I would have them
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  Speaker 8: cut that dose seas in half. And then if they've
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  Speaker 8: got andographists, we do half as many have andographists at
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  Speaker 8: least three or four in the course of a day.
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  Speaker 8: If they've got dimex, we might use that. Those work
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  Speaker 8: really really well, and then I would tell them gargle
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  Speaker 8: and tilt your head back real deep. Let it get
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  Speaker 8: down in there with sea salt and water peroxide, a
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  Speaker 8: natural mouthwash, anything to get back in there and make
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  Speaker 8: the bacteria that are hanging around on the surface not happy.
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  Speaker 8: Only one time ever in all these years, that I
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  Speaker 8: swab a throat more than one time, and that was
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  Speaker 8: the one that looked like moon craters, and they got
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  Speaker 8: it really bad. And part of the problem is they
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  Speaker 8: did not think that I could help. They thought they
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  Speaker 8: needed antibiotics, and they had done that several times, and
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  Speaker 8: now they were at a loss because they didn't know
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  Speaker 8: what to do. So they cleared it up. It worked great,
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  Speaker 8: and anybody can swab the throat at home, but a
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  Speaker 8: lot of people won't do that. They want the doctor
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  Speaker 8: to do it. So if you want to do it
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  Speaker 8: at home, you buy a tincture of iodine and you
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  Speaker 8: get the long Q tips or take two Q tips
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  Speaker 8: together and get back there and paint that throat really good.
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  Speaker 8: Nobody likes that. A lot of people gag, but it
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  Speaker 8: kills the surface bacteria and you really really make a
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  Speaker 8: giant difference. So pretty simple. And I never believe in
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  Speaker 8: taking the tonsils out unless you've got some kind of
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  Speaker 8: full blown tonsil cancer. And I've not ever seen that,
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  Speaker 8: but I know a lot of people when we were kids,
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  Speaker 8: if you walked by the doctor's office, they took out
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  Speaker 8: your tonsils and adnoids before you got off the sidewalk,
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  Speaker 8: and it was a bad thing. They made a lot
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  Speaker 8: of money, and you need that. Your tonsils and adnoids
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  Speaker 8: were not accessory items. So very sad. And like I said,
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  Speaker 8: it's a gland. I do believe it grows back to
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  Speaker 8: a certain extent, just like the thyroid. So swab the throat,
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  Speaker 8: we do laser on it, and then we take the condoplex.
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  Speaker 8: And also if you have emiplex at home, I'll have
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  Speaker 8: you do two or three of them. Three or four
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  Speaker 8: times a day if it's really bad, but most of
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  Speaker 8: the time the very next day is miracle difference and
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  Speaker 8: then they can take care of it with condoplex, handigraphis,
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  Speaker 8: dimes and even things like cataplex ACP will help you.
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  Speaker 8: Aliplex might help in a bind if you didn't have
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  Speaker 8: nothing else. And very important to gargle was something, and
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  Speaker 8: especially a mouthwash that doesn't have a bunch of crap
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  Speaker 8: in it, like a floor eide and all that, and
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  Speaker 8: you just tilt your head back and gargle deep where
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  Speaker 8: you feel it get on the throat there, and usually
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  Speaker 8: one day and the next day is like it was
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  Speaker 8: a miracles, really really good trick. I learned this when
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  Speaker 8: I was a interned in college working in the clinic,
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  Speaker 8: and there was a doctor Dmitri, who was a retired
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  Speaker 8: doctor of osteopaths back in the old days when they
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  Speaker 8: He was more like a Doc Adams kind of guy,
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  Speaker 8: and he taught me more about pediatrics and geriatrics than
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  Speaker 8: anybody else in that whole school. Nobody else wanted to
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  Speaker 8: listen to him. He was an older guy, and I
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  Speaker 8: think they thought he was not too smart, but he
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  Speaker 8: knew things. And this thing about the iodine. He taught me,
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  Speaker 8: and then I came up with doing the laser on
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  Speaker 8: it and what products to use. But if you don't
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  Speaker 8: swab that throat, it's coming back to bite you. It
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  Speaker 8: will not heal very fast. You've got to kill the
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  Speaker 8: surface bacterious anything. Susy.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, a couple of things.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 6: I guess I was just a guinea pig for doctors
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  Speaker 6: from you know, six to my twenties. And when I
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  Speaker 6: was six, not only did I have my tonsils taken out,
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  Speaker 6: but I had taken out at an army hospital.
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  Speaker 8: Yay.
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  Speaker 6: I don't remember, pardon me much about it. I just
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  Speaker 6: remember stories that were told me. And uh, you know,
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  Speaker 6: you know, not only did they steal my tonsils, they
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  Speaker 6: lied to me. And you know, a nurse came in
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  Speaker 6: and you know, it was looking and whatnot, and I said,
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  Speaker 6: you know what happened? You know, obviously she wanted to
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  Speaker 6: looking in my mouth and I ask what happened? And well,
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  Speaker 6: the doctor took your tonsils out? And I'm like, where
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  Speaker 6: did they go? Oh, they flew out the window. I'm
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  Speaker 6: not thought when I heard that story, you know, it's
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  Speaker 6: no wonder I was a messed up kid. But you know,
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  Speaker 6: I don't think God gave us any body part by accident.
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  Speaker 6: So one of the things that maybe the audience doesn't get,
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  Speaker 6: maybe I don't get, is what is the function of
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  Speaker 6: the consoles and why we should have them.
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  Speaker 8: Well, like I was mentioning before, think of the tonsils
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  Speaker 8: like your lymphodes, where they swell up and try to
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  Speaker 8: contain the problem and they try to kill it, and
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  Speaker 8: so they're trying to help you. But in the meantime,
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  Speaker 8: just like our liptodes, they swell up and they hurt,
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  Speaker 8: they get our attention, and that's kind of another check
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  Speaker 8: engine light saying we got a problem here, let's fix it.
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  Speaker 8: And I saw a lot of patients who had never
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  Speaker 8: had their throat swabbed, and it did antibiotics, and it
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  Speaker 8: just kept coming back and quicker and more vicious. The
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  Speaker 8: worst I ever saw with that was that one patient,
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  Speaker 8: and I mean it literally looked like moon craters when
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  Speaker 8: you looked in that throat. It was horrible.
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  Speaker 6: Well was interesting. What's interesting to me is I was
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  Speaker 6: told that I was sick all the time with earaches,
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  Speaker 6: and so that's why they took them out. But now
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  Speaker 6: I have problems with my ears all the time, So
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  Speaker 6: I don't think they helped me.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it had nothing to do with helping you. It
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  Speaker 8: was it was just like with any problem in the body.
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  Speaker 8: If if if it rares its ugly head and says
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  Speaker 8: we have a problem, they like to cut it out
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  Speaker 8: and take out the light bulb. But the problems still there.
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  Speaker 8: The light bulb just doesn't turn on. So your problems
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  Speaker 8: never went away, and they probably got made worse because
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  Speaker 8: they took out things that could help you. And so
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  Speaker 8: your body has had the struggle all these years without tounsils,
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  Speaker 8: without the gallbladder, you know. And it's not like you
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  Speaker 8: could go to the autoparts and get new ones, good, bad, anything. Bill,
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  Speaker 8: I'm sure you lost yours along the way. Nope, I
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  Speaker 8: still got them. It's I remember that it was a
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  Speaker 8: sort of a badge of courage for kids in school
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  Speaker 8: to have their tonsils out, you know, they kind of
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  Speaker 8: come back and they were tough guys, the big guys
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  Speaker 8: that had their councils out. Nobody really knew what the
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  Speaker 8: deal was. Nobody knew what councils did, but that never
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  Speaker 8: stopping from taking them out. Yeah, it was it was
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  Speaker 8: just easy money. It was the early version of the
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  Speaker 8: Today's gallbladder and hysterectomies. It was just an easy, they thought,
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  Speaker 8: quick fix, but all it really did was make them money.
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  Speaker 8: But I've never seen anything work so well as doing
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  Speaker 8: the iodine swab and then come back with conduplex every
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  Speaker 8: hour and agraphist if you've got it, mix it in there.
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  Speaker 8: Dimex sometimes helps pretty well. There is timex and conteplex,
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  Speaker 8: so you know you can do either way. I've had
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  Speaker 8: patient it's like Susy and Bill to six dimx before
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  Speaker 8: and it tastes really horrible. I'd rather chew cardioplus, but
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  Speaker 8: it works. And then if we do the laser and
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  Speaker 8: swabbing the throat, you've covered all the basis. The problem
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  Speaker 8: in a lot of things is people will not do
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  Speaker 8: the surface bacteria on something and try to treat it
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  Speaker 8: with antibiotics or something else, and they can't figure out
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  Speaker 8: why it keeps coming back. So that that's pretty much
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  Speaker 8: it a simple fix. If somebody in your family or
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  Speaker 8: you wake up with a sore throat and you want
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  Speaker 8: me to walk it through that, just give us a call.
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  Speaker 8: You can contact us through the show on the website
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  Speaker 8: that SUSY's created at doc CRUPA dot com and that's
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  Speaker 8: dooc k r o u PA dot com, or you
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  Speaker 8: can call, especially during the show. We normally would have
• 17:02
  Speaker 8: done that, but tonight we're using all the phones, so
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  Speaker 8: it's better to go through the website and we'll get
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  Speaker 8: back to you and we'll help you with that. So
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  Speaker 8: big thing though, is keep some thinks you're of iodine around.
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  Speaker 8: When we were kids, they had your care chrome and
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  Speaker 8: they all panicked about that, and me diolate. They used
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  Speaker 8: to have that, and I haven't seen any of them anymore,
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  Speaker 8: but they still have iodine. And the iodine has got
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  Speaker 8: that picture of the skull and crossbones, but it works
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  Speaker 8: really well. And that and the laser. The laser does
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  Speaker 8: some phenomenal healing. And then you just cannot beat gonduplex
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  Speaker 8: and and the graphics and Dimex. Those things are just wonderful.
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  Speaker 8: So we're going to go to our normal routine and
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  Speaker 8: when we go to the break, we'll come back and
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  Speaker 8: go right to Bill. Bill, you got something up your
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  Speaker 8: sleeve tonight. I think you said something about grieving. Yep,
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  Speaker 8: a little bit. Okay, that's a good topic. Good topic,
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  Speaker 8: that's a that's something everybody goes through differently, and I'm
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  Speaker 8: sure that's going to be interesting. Dizzy, you got some
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  Speaker 8: recipes up your sleeve.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I've got one. And just so that y'all know,
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  Speaker 6: I bought some. I got mcure chrome for like seven bucks,
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  Speaker 6: a little over seven dollars on Amazon.
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  Speaker 8: I've never tried it with my care chrome. Uh. And
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  Speaker 8: I didn't even know it was still around, but they
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  Speaker 8: had them when we were kids. They use it on
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  Speaker 8: everything but iodines. What I like best for swapping the throat.
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  Speaker 8: We called it that I would try mccare chrome.
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  Speaker 6: What that we called the mcure chrome monkey blood.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a good way.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah. The only one I trusted to apply it to
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  Speaker 6: me was my grandmother because she would put it down
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  Speaker 6: and then should blow, blow, blow, blow until it quit briney.
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  Speaker 8: Well, it's cool. Yeah, it was big when we were kids.
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  Speaker 8: All right, let's switch gears for a minute. I recently
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  Speaker 8: found a company that makes small batch vinegars and they
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  Speaker 8: have a special extravergent olive oil two that they get
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  Speaker 8: through one of their companies they work with. But they
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  Speaker 8: vinegars are fermented age thing and they age it and
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  Speaker 8: then the company is called American Vinegar Works. And I
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  Speaker 8: was so impressed with these people. They they understand customer service.
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  Speaker 8: I ordered stuff and before I realized that they had
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  Speaker 8: sent it to the post office. Well in my neighborhood,
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  Speaker 8: and most of this god forsaken crowded city they took
• 20:08
  Speaker 8: away mailboxes. And you have a group mailbox that sits
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  Speaker 8: out in the weather down at the end of the street,
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  Speaker 8: so you don't even know if your delivery has been
• 20:23
  Speaker 8: made unless you get some kind of notification, or you
• 20:26
  Speaker 8: happen to check, or you saw the male lady go by.
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  Speaker 8: And so I contacted them and was concerned about that,
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  Speaker 8: and a guy named Rob checked on my ardor told
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  Speaker 8: me when it would be here, so I knew to
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  Speaker 8: go look for it. And one of them's got beer
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  Speaker 8: in there, one of them's got a hot wine, one
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  Speaker 8: of them's got some other kind of brandy or something.
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  Speaker 8: So they have several different flavors and you can get
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  Speaker 8: a little sampler, small bottles of these vinegars. And what
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  Speaker 8: I wanted it for is like when you make a
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  Speaker 8: vinaigrette salad dressing, or you want to put some vegetables
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  Speaker 8: and you put olive oil in this, and they give
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  Speaker 8: you some recipes. In fact, I have a card from there.
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  Speaker 8: I'm a lady named Karen, handwritten card just to say
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  Speaker 8: thank you for buying from them, and they show you
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  Speaker 8: a picture on the card of the small batch vinegar
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  Speaker 8: that they make, and they found it was an old
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  Speaker 8: German company or recipe and they found all this and
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  Speaker 8: duplicated it. I think they're somewhere in the East Coast.
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  Speaker 8: And it was funny when I told them about stuff's
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  Speaker 8: sitting out in the heat here, he said, you know
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  Speaker 8: up here we still have mailboxes. We weren't even aware
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  Speaker 8: of that. So he said, you let us know when
• 21:57
  Speaker 8: you buy something and won't make sure it comes youps
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  Speaker 8: or fed or something. That was pretty cool. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 8: was really impressed. Oh. I wanted to reiterate to people,
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  Speaker 8: if you send me anything from Facebook Messenger, I will
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  Speaker 8: not respond. I've had things that were not who they
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  Speaker 8: said they were. And we're very concerned with our doctor's
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  Speaker 8: license about medical text on your cell phone and things
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  Speaker 8: like Facebook Messenger, because you know what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 8: People sometimes will click in Facebook or exer truth and
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: want to talk to me. I won't do that either,
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  Speaker 8: because I don't know who's looking at it. I don't
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  Speaker 8: know if it's real. There's been times where it was not,
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  Speaker 8: and I'm not going to give up my doctor's license
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  Speaker 8: to talk to you. And unfortunately, I have one friend
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  Speaker 8: that I have asked him maybe ten eleven times, please
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  Speaker 8: do not send me something to Facebook Messenger, and he
• 23:16
  Speaker 8: keeps doing it. I think he forgets. And he even
• 23:19
  Speaker 8: put in there one time, just checking on the doctor,
• 23:23
  Speaker 8: but he never responds, and it made me look really bad,
• 23:27
  Speaker 8: like I'm being rude. So I just wanted to reiterate
• 23:31
  Speaker 8: to people that I do not use Facebook Messenger. I
• 23:36
  Speaker 8: might click on a birthday for somebody that I know
• 23:41
  Speaker 8: because it doesn't automatic happy birthday, but I do not
• 23:45
  Speaker 8: post comments. I do post our show on Facebook, Twitter,
• 23:51
  Speaker 8: X and Truth, and then our show also goes out
• 23:56
  Speaker 8: to that other company we used to use automatically to
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: about fifteen different sites. But I will not speak. I
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: will not talk. I had somebody the other day click
• 24:09
  Speaker 8: on how you've been where are you at. I'm not
• 24:13
  Speaker 8: answering that stuff. I don't know if it's a setup,
• 24:17
  Speaker 8: because there have been them kind of things, and our
• 24:21
  Speaker 8: board says do not let people text you medical information
• 24:25
  Speaker 8: on the phone, So I'm not you know, the license
• 24:29
  Speaker 8: is too hard to get. I'm not giving it up
• 24:31
  Speaker 8: this late in the time. So if you do that,
• 24:36
  Speaker 8: it's not me being rude. It's me doing what I
• 24:39
  Speaker 8: have to do to protect your privacy and my privacy
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: and my license. So we're not going to do that.
• 24:47
  Speaker 8: And so here's one maybe you can help me with.
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: I have literally thousands of women on truth and Facebook,
• 25:02
  Speaker 8: all wanting to be my friends, all following me, all
• 25:07
  Speaker 8: wanting me to respond to them. I don't do that either,
• 25:12
  Speaker 8: and I'm sure they're all in love with me because
• 25:15
  Speaker 8: many of the pictures are the same one, so I'm
• 25:17
  Speaker 8: sure it's legitimate. I mean, I'm amazed every day there
• 25:25
  Speaker 8: are more, and I don't know if they just troll
• 25:30
  Speaker 8: or they want to test you. But again, I'm not
• 25:34
  Speaker 8: at clicking on anybody's anything unless I know them, so
• 25:38
  Speaker 8: I won't be following or communicating with them. But it's
• 25:42
  Speaker 8: so funny. They must think people are really stupid because
• 25:45
  Speaker 8: a lot of the pictures that they post are the
• 25:49
  Speaker 8: same picture, so either everybody looks alike. But it's so funny.
• 25:58
  Speaker 8: And then when sometimes they'll tell me, I mean, we
• 26:00
  Speaker 8: want to be a friend on Facebook and so you
• 26:03
  Speaker 8: can click on there and see who their friends are
• 26:06
  Speaker 8: and all their friends or guys. There's no women friends,
• 26:10
  Speaker 8: so you know that's not a good thing. So I
• 26:14
  Speaker 8: stay away from that kind of stuff. Yep. And what else,
• 26:19
  Speaker 8: what do you think is he in that kind of funny?
• 26:22
  Speaker 6: Well, no, it's a pain in the butt. They've gotten
• 26:25
  Speaker 6: nefarious plans. You know, they want to scam you in
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: some kind of a way, or they want to collect
• 26:34
  Speaker 6: your you know, personal data. You know, I don't get
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: the girls. I get the men. And for the longest time,
• 26:42
  Speaker 6: it was like, you know, five star generals, you know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 6: holding a peppy in a rose and or they they
• 26:51
  Speaker 6: would look like some celebrity. And you know what was
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: that Doseki's man, you know, real handsome Latino man. They
• 27:04
  Speaker 6: used his image once. And so I've seen it where
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: there might be two or three of my friends are
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: this fake person's friend, which just simply means they fail
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: for it. Oh, someone's paying attention to me.
• 27:21
  Speaker 9: Yay.
• 27:24
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's very sad, but I thought it was so
• 27:29
  Speaker 8: humorous when I start seeing the same picture. Yeah, Bill,
• 27:33
  Speaker 8: you're probably not on the computer long enough for those problems,
• 27:37
  Speaker 8: are you. No, And I don't think I've ever looked
• 27:41
  Speaker 8: at Facebook. Okay, well, I post our show on Facebook, Twitter,
• 27:48
  Speaker 8: which is now X and truth because our automatic system
• 27:54
  Speaker 8: that sends it out, that's the three it missus. So
• 27:57
  Speaker 8: I do them, and I do it religiously. So consequently
• 28:02
  Speaker 8: i'm you know, like I give you an example. I
• 28:05
  Speaker 8: had one. I had one that's happened many times. I
• 28:09
  Speaker 8: don't know what's going on, but I tried to request
• 28:13
  Speaker 8: you to be a friend, and it wouldn't let me.
• 28:16
  Speaker 8: Will you send me a friend? Requies Yeah, like I said, yeah,
• 28:22
  Speaker 8: many times it's the same picture, and they all want me.
• 28:25
  Speaker 8: They just they just can't handle themselves. They're so desperate
• 28:29
  Speaker 8: for me. So all right, one last thing? Or what's
• 28:33
  Speaker 8: that city?
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: No? God, go ahead, Oh, I was just going to say.
• 28:40
  Speaker 8: You and I have talked many times about skin issues
• 28:43
  Speaker 8: and treating things that might be a cancer, might not,
• 28:47
  Speaker 8: who knows. Sometimes And one of the problems that you
• 28:53
  Speaker 8: run into is sometimes people do not want to have
• 28:57
  Speaker 8: to wear or put stuff on them. Are we're a
• 29:02
  Speaker 8: band aid because other people see it and we're self conscious?
• 29:06
  Speaker 8: And what I have figured out because my skin is
• 29:09
  Speaker 8: light and freckled, and I've suffered my whole life. I
• 29:14
  Speaker 8: do not tan. I turned different colors of red, and
• 29:18
  Speaker 8: my skin has had many, many, many issues, and to
• 29:22
  Speaker 8: this day, I'm always fighting some little skin cancer thing
• 29:27
  Speaker 8: somewhere and I have to stay on top of it.
• 29:31
  Speaker 8: But what I figured out because my arms they were
• 29:36
  Speaker 8: they just had a lot of things going on, just annoying.
• 29:41
  Speaker 8: And what I start trying was, you know, susy, we
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: got that egg plant with the acid and then there's
• 29:47
  Speaker 8: cure dirm. But what I also found that works very
• 29:51
  Speaker 8: very well is using the egg plant with the acid frequently.
• 29:58
  Speaker 8: They will tell you put it on once or twice
• 30:01
  Speaker 8: a day and cover it. And I found that if
• 30:06
  Speaker 8: you use it and every time you think about it,
• 30:10
  Speaker 8: you put it on, it works better. And you can
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: take seventy percent rubbing alcohol and rub that on your
• 30:19
  Speaker 8: skin where those things are and they work. So I've
• 30:23
  Speaker 8: seen a bunch of things clear up from doing the
• 30:26
  Speaker 8: alcohol and sometimes doing the eggplant acid concoction, and some
• 30:36
  Speaker 8: things I'm still fighting. So I know there's some kind
• 30:38
  Speaker 8: of a little canceroust issue there that I'm dealing with.
• 30:43
  Speaker 8: But my skin is gone through hell ever since I
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: was a little kid, and it's just you know, that's
• 30:52
  Speaker 8: just the way it is for me. It's part of
• 30:54
  Speaker 8: the fair skin stuff. My brother gets as dark as
• 30:58
  Speaker 8: if he was an afrit American and he's never had
• 31:01
  Speaker 8: any of those problems, but me the other way around.
• 31:06
  Speaker 8: So you might try that anybody that's got issues with
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: the skin. You don't have to put the band aid on.
• 31:15
  Speaker 8: If you don't like the smell of the egg plant
• 31:18
  Speaker 8: then because it's got out an asset in there, and
• 31:24
  Speaker 8: you can try apple cider vinegar, but a lot of
• 31:26
  Speaker 8: people don't want that smell either. You can just try
• 31:29
  Speaker 8: with the regular rubbing alcohol. Put it on as often
• 31:34
  Speaker 8: as you think about it, as many times as you
• 31:37
  Speaker 8: walk by your bathroom. You can do it. And only
• 31:41
  Speaker 8: good things seem to be happening when I do that,
• 31:43
  Speaker 8: So just a little I used to me as a
• 31:46
  Speaker 8: guinea pig, and it seemed to be working well on
• 31:49
  Speaker 8: a lot of things. And again it depends on what
• 31:52
  Speaker 8: you're dealing with. Some of the things I don't know
• 31:55
  Speaker 8: if they were a little cancer cell or not, but
• 31:58
  Speaker 8: a lot of things on my arms cleared up very well.
• 32:02
  Speaker 8: I still have that little spot on my nose from
• 32:05
  Speaker 8: when I cut it one day, and I'm still dealing
• 32:09
  Speaker 8: with that, but it's a lot better. So anything sus
• 32:13
  Speaker 8: before we go to break.
• 32:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, if anyone's interested, that eggplant tin chair is available
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: at Amazon. Is just under twenty seven dollars. I think
• 32:25
  Speaker 6: it's down in price. And the company name is t
• 32:30
  Speaker 6: Period Botanicals, and it's like a maroon and green and
• 32:38
  Speaker 6: white label. And I think it was like around the
• 32:44
  Speaker 6: end of twenty twenty three. Of course, I only had
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: one spot on my arm. And yeah, consistency is the key.
• 32:53
  Speaker 6: I can't express it any more than that. And getting
• 32:57
  Speaker 6: a good amount of it on whatever spot you're working on,
• 33:02
  Speaker 6: and I would just pinch off a little bit of
• 33:04
  Speaker 6: cotton ball and I would just soak fairly well that
• 33:12
  Speaker 6: little piece of cotton ball and put it. And mine
• 33:15
  Speaker 6: was easy.
• 33:16
  Speaker 10: It was on the left arm, on the top more
• 33:19
  Speaker 10: than likely, where my arm would get a lot of
• 33:23
  Speaker 10: you know, sun exposure from driving, you know, until I
• 33:27
  Speaker 10: had you know, dark tinted windows, and then I would
• 33:32
  Speaker 10: put a band aid on it.
• 33:33
  Speaker 6: And I would sleep with it all night. So I
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: would have you know, a good amount of the tincture
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: UH in contact with the skin for seven or eight hours,
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: and I would do it like Doc said in the daytime,
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: unless I was going somewhere. But yeah, I can't say
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: enough about this particular tincture. And you know, it even
• 33:56
  Speaker 6: says it's not, you know, not just for you know,
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: like a skin cancer, but other disorders. Discolored. Now, I
• 34:09
  Speaker 6: don't know what discolored means in their description. I don't
• 34:12
  Speaker 6: know if that means age spots. I just don't don't know.
• 34:15
  Speaker 6: But and then it talks about areas that might be
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: a little thicken or scaly, and they call that characterosis.
• 34:26
  Speaker 6: But yeah, Eggplant tincture by Tea Botanicals at Amazon.
• 34:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah, And like I said, I experimented with the seventy
• 34:36
  Speaker 8: percent rubbing alcohol and put it on frequently and found
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: that they work very similar. So if you've got some
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: alcohol and you want to try, it's going to depend
• 34:46
  Speaker 8: on what you're dealing with. It's hard to say until
• 34:50
  Speaker 8: you try. But I saw some great things happen with
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: both of them. I saw some good things happen with
• 34:57
  Speaker 8: the CUADERM but the problem was that area kept getting
• 35:01
  Speaker 8: hit and affected or I put glasses on and it
• 35:04
  Speaker 8: would rub it, and so I'm still dealing with that.
• 35:09
  Speaker 8: So but there are a lot of great things like
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: that to work. I did it right before we came
• 35:16
  Speaker 8: in to do the show. All right, Bill, anything before
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: we go to break? Nope? No, all right, Steve, I
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: guess we're at that break time.
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  Speaker 8: Welcome back everybody to doctor Krupa's Natural Health Hours. I
• 39:47
  Speaker 8: am joined by Lousy Bill and We've got Steve, our producer,
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: hiding in the background, and we're gonna go right to Bill.
• 39:56
  Speaker 8: He's got a very interesting topic for his weekly topic,
• 40:00
  Speaker 8: and I think you're going to be very interested. Bill,
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: take it away. Well, yeah, I don't know what I'm sorry.
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: Anytime somebody says anything I'm going to say is interesting,
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: I get amused. You were talking last week about one
• 40:19
  Speaker 8: of your former patients who had passed on and how
• 40:27
  Speaker 8: that had had kind of come about and the family pressures,
• 40:33
  Speaker 8: and but the thing that that I took away from
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: that was how you responded to it and how you
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: you were you were dealing it with essentially the the
• 40:50
  Speaker 8: as I say, the phenomenon of loss, which is what
• 40:53
  Speaker 8: what grief has has to do with. I've always been
• 40:59
  Speaker 8: relived and to say I'm going to talk about grief
• 41:03
  Speaker 8: because that's one of the therapist's favorite topics because it
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: covers such a broad spectrum of centomology. But it's nonetheless
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: is one of the one of the really primal parts
• 41:18
  Speaker 8: of our emotional intellectual life. And it's you know, it's
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: the dealing with loss.
• 41:27
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 41:28
  Speaker 8: This starts really the moment that we're born. We're it
• 41:34
  Speaker 8: pushed out of a very warm, safe place into a
• 41:36
  Speaker 8: very bright, cold place and it just kind of all
• 41:40
  Speaker 8: goes downhill from there. So how we respond to that
• 41:45
  Speaker 8: loss is is something that, as you said just a
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: few moments ago, is a very individual process. Well we
• 41:55
  Speaker 8: all deal with We all deal with that in our
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: own in terms of our own experienceial vocabulary and what
• 42:03
  Speaker 8: we saw as children, and how our parents dealt with
• 42:05
  Speaker 8: it and how they how they helped us to deal
• 42:08
  Speaker 8: with with things that we lost, if a pet, a
• 42:13
  Speaker 8: pet died, or grandparent as the way, or how how
• 42:17
  Speaker 8: that began to be part of our own personal culture.
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: And it's, uh, it's always been a kind of an
• 42:29
  Speaker 8: interesting thing that to my mind was too cut and
• 42:34
  Speaker 8: dried in terms of most therapists and certainly in terms
• 42:39
  Speaker 8: of how we approached that when we were students, how
• 42:45
  Speaker 8: how our instructors dealt with the they say, the whole
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: process of grief. Back in the fifties, the nineteen fifties,
• 42:57
  Speaker 8: at least use a Swiss woman the name was Kubler
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: Ross really did a lot of of uh of work
• 43:08
  Speaker 8: with with people who were experiencing a lot of grief
• 43:11
  Speaker 8: and noticed that there were several uh as she put
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: it stages that people went through. And I talked about
• 43:23
  Speaker 8: this some time ago under Sharma taught you a year
• 43:25
  Speaker 8: or so ago. I've had my problem with that when
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: you when when we say we have a series of
• 43:33
  Speaker 8: phenomena that are stages, it implies some kind of as
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: we say, chronicity, It implies some kind of a time
• 43:41
  Speaker 8: thing that this happens, and then that happens, and then
• 43:44
  Speaker 8: that happens, and that happens in a while. In some
• 43:47
  Speaker 8: respects that that's true. These five stages are five five
• 43:55
  Speaker 8: aspects are not discreet. They kept they keep recurring and
• 44:00
  Speaker 8: popping back up, and we have to we have to
• 44:03
  Speaker 8: wind up dealing with them sort of as they recur.
• 44:07
  Speaker 8: And every time they recur, we we know a little more,
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: we've had a little more experience. We deal with it
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: a little differently. The first of those that will just
• 44:17
  Speaker 8: do kind of a real quick run through that again.
• 44:19
  Speaker 8: But the first of you know, with something something happens
• 44:24
  Speaker 8: that causes causes us to grieve, first of all, and
• 44:30
  Speaker 8: what what is grief? And I mean how you we
• 44:33
  Speaker 8: use a lot of these terms of you know, well,
• 44:36
  Speaker 8: you know they're grieving because they've had some but what
• 44:40
  Speaker 8: does what does grief mean? What does it mean to grieve?
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: And essentially it's it's it's a very deep and as
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: they say, boignant distress, something that it catches us. And
• 44:58
  Speaker 8: this balances our our usual way of life of functioning.
• 45:04
  Speaker 8: Death of a a family, death of a close friend,
• 45:10
  Speaker 8: some natural catastrophe that people can somehow translate to their
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: own experience and grief for that that kind of thing.
• 45:19
  Speaker 8: But you know, when when something suddenly happens, someone someone
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: dies at an accident, you know, it's just the first
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: thing is that we deny that. No, I can't I
• 45:32
  Speaker 8: can't believe they've gone. I can't believe that this happened
• 45:35
  Speaker 8: to this. The sense of denial is really is really
• 45:40
  Speaker 8: an expression of shock. So often that people who've been
• 45:44
  Speaker 8: ill for a long time were not particularly surprised that
• 45:49
  Speaker 8: they die, because that's what the illness is headed towards.
• 45:52
  Speaker 8: But when that actually happens, that it certainly can be
• 45:56
  Speaker 8: a bit of a shock. You know, we'll always expect
• 46:00
  Speaker 8: think death to happen down the road, and sometimes it
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: happens right now, and that that shock is part of
• 46:06
  Speaker 8: that denial process, and that that's a very kind of
• 46:11
  Speaker 8: profound way that we deal with this disbalance, with this
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: this distress is is that we just back away from it.
• 46:23
  Speaker 8: The second the second stage that she uses is the anger.
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: We've become very angry that enough wasn't done. We've become
• 46:37
  Speaker 8: angry that they left. We become angry that we've been abandoned.
• 46:43
  Speaker 8: We've become angry that that has happened. Again. This is
• 46:48
  Speaker 8: if we look at at any loss that we've experienced,
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: that anger is very much a part of that. And
• 46:56
  Speaker 8: it's being aware that that these aspects of grief are
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: to be expected, they're not unusually they occur. It gives
• 47:09
  Speaker 8: us a little better sense of being in control of
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: how we how we deal with this just distress, with this,
• 47:17
  Speaker 8: with this loss. The third third aspect that she talks
• 47:22
  Speaker 8: about is bargaining if only I could have done a
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: little more, if I only would have known, if if
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: I would have been able to help, if I you know,
• 47:34
  Speaker 8: a lot of subjunctive use there that if word shows
• 47:38
  Speaker 8: up a whole lot, it's I could have done more
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: if only I would have been able to help or
• 47:43
  Speaker 8: know about it, or is this is again a way
• 47:46
  Speaker 8: that we we help ourselves deal with this Uh disturbance
• 47:55
  Speaker 8: of our normal routine, of our normal life, the way
• 47:59
  Speaker 8: that we've normally look at things. Fourth aspect is depression.
• 48:08
  Speaker 8: Finally we really understand that we've lost something that part
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: of our makeup, a part of our our world, or
• 48:19
  Speaker 8: part of our personality is not necessarily gone, but it
• 48:25
  Speaker 8: has changed. It's not gone because we remember things, we
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: have we have memories, we have experiences that we can
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: think back on it, but the actuality is gone, the
• 48:39
  Speaker 8: presence is gone, and we have to rely on on
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: the past to keep these thoughts alive. And the final
• 48:50
  Speaker 8: aspect that she talks about is accept as we finally
• 48:54
  Speaker 8: come to realize that, yeah, that somebody has has died,
• 48:58
  Speaker 8: somebody has passed on, We've lost something, part of our
• 49:03
  Speaker 8: part of our life is it's gone, has changed. And
• 49:10
  Speaker 8: to my mind, these these five aspects fall into two categories.
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: The first one is actually the category of grief. It's
• 49:21
  Speaker 8: a shock, it's sudden, that's now, these things it's these
• 49:25
  Speaker 8: five aspects really last, again depends on the person, but
• 49:32
  Speaker 8: they can last anywhere from a couple of months to
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: a couple of years. And after that it begins to
• 49:40
  Speaker 8: mellow out a little bit, and that grieving process becomes
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: a little more long term, and it becomes what I've
• 49:49
  Speaker 8: always called the mourning period if you are in ig
• 49:54
  Speaker 8: but we mourn the loss, and it's a it's a deeper,
• 50:01
  Speaker 8: in some ways quieter acceptance of loss. But those five
• 50:07
  Speaker 8: five aspects are still very much there, but they have
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: become tempered, tempered by time. I think if we if
• 50:16
  Speaker 8: we can kind of keep track of that, you know,
• 50:20
  Speaker 8: I could think you can think back to people that
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: I've that I have known for years and years ago,
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: and I still warn their their absence, things that I
• 50:35
  Speaker 8: have were part of my life that I still continue
• 50:39
  Speaker 8: to mourn long term, long term breathing process. What Ral
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: is on was that you kind of last week and
• 50:48
  Speaker 8: talking about your former patient who basically described every one
• 50:54
  Speaker 8: of those five aspects everyone very quickly. You went through
• 51:00
  Speaker 8: the very quickly. You were talking about your response to
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: hearing about this laws and and every one of those
• 51:07
  Speaker 8: five aspects was there. This is a very normal way
• 51:14
  Speaker 8: of dealing with that, and there's nothing actually enough. I
• 51:17
  Speaker 8: don't think we should avoid these experiencing these these different
• 51:22
  Speaker 8: and it's part of it's part of the process, it's
• 51:24
  Speaker 8: part of part of moving forward. And it's it's different
• 51:32
  Speaker 8: as the morning period. As time passes that more more partials,
• 51:39
  Speaker 8: more partials in these aspects really become a parent guilt.
• 51:47
  Speaker 8: We should have spent more time, we should have could
• 51:50
  Speaker 8: have called more, we should have been more involved. It's
• 51:54
  Speaker 8: uh a kind of an adjustment period for the we.
• 52:00
  Speaker 8: We tend to sometimes become more isolated because one of
• 52:04
  Speaker 8: the things that I'm working with older patients, I said,
• 52:09
  Speaker 8: you know, my friends have all my friends have died,
• 52:11
  Speaker 8: my friends have I just feel very alone. I don't
• 52:14
  Speaker 8: want to go anywhere, I don't want to do anything.
• 52:16
  Speaker 8: I just feel I feel abandoned. And this kind of
• 52:22
  Speaker 8: isolation of emotional and actual and real uh, isolation that
• 52:28
  Speaker 8: can occur, particularly as we as we become older and
• 52:32
  Speaker 8: we see so much of life moving on and leaving
• 52:36
  Speaker 8: us kind of behind, leaving us behind with our thoughts
• 52:42
  Speaker 8: and our memories. It's sometimes manifest itself in bitterness, you know,
• 52:52
  Speaker 8: grumpy old men. Right now, things are different, things are
• 52:56
  Speaker 8: not like they used to be, and we don't have
• 52:59
  Speaker 8: any troll over what's happening to us, and people are
• 53:02
  Speaker 8: dying and people are going away, and it's this this
• 53:06
  Speaker 8: terrible one of the one of the odd things too,
• 53:10
  Speaker 8: that I noticed that people were talking about the sense
• 53:15
  Speaker 8: of their having failed, that they failed, that the person,
• 53:21
  Speaker 8: their friend, their relative, whatever, died because they failed. And
• 53:25
  Speaker 8: it wasn't a failure that was something that they didn't do.
• 53:30
  Speaker 8: It was a failure of something that they were some
• 53:35
  Speaker 8: part of their personality wasn't enough to get this other
• 53:40
  Speaker 8: person through the experience. It's it's a very we're very
• 53:48
  Speaker 8: complex beings, and our emotions and our intellect are extraordinarily complex.
• 53:55
  Speaker 8: And one of the things that if we talk about
• 53:58
  Speaker 8: on the show, and I think it is important that
• 54:04
  Speaker 8: as our emotions fluctuate, our physical health fluctuates correspondingly, and
• 54:10
  Speaker 8: as our physical health it fluctuates, our emotional intellectual health
• 54:17
  Speaker 8: fluctuates accordingly. It's it's it's all hooked together and the
• 54:23
  Speaker 8: process of dealing with loss, of dealing with change. And
• 54:29
  Speaker 8: I suspect that any time you talk about change, you
• 54:33
  Speaker 8: are talking about some kind of loss. Something has has
• 54:38
  Speaker 8: moved one way or another, and we have departed from
• 54:41
  Speaker 8: where we were, We've lost something that we were. It's
• 54:45
  Speaker 8: just part of it all. It ain't easy. As the
• 54:49
  Speaker 8: old radio show Meggie and Molly, Molly used to say
• 54:53
  Speaker 8: it eight easy mcgie. It isn't easy. It isn't easy.
• 54:58
  Speaker 8: And I think accepting the fact that these kinds of
• 55:03
  Speaker 8: things are very difficult periods of our lives, but they
• 55:07
  Speaker 8: they do often as we become older, they become gentler,
• 55:12
  Speaker 8: and they become more easily, more easily understood and accept
• 55:18
  Speaker 8: it as part of this experience. Well there you are,
• 55:24
  Speaker 8: Like I said, good stuff. I didn't even realize I
• 55:27
  Speaker 8: went through all five of those things, you know, I
• 55:30
  Speaker 8: just I just knew. I was frustrated beyond beliefs that
• 55:35
  Speaker 8: he was. He was doing so good, and then they
• 55:39
  Speaker 8: somebody pressured him to go to the hospital and it
• 55:42
  Speaker 8: was downhill after that. Yeah, yep, I said. I think
• 55:49
  Speaker 8: I said cynically enough, it's all downhill anyway, But that's
• 55:52
  Speaker 8: just me. Yeah. Really like guy talking to a guy
• 55:58
  Speaker 8: the other day, he said, Yeah, when I woke up
• 56:01
  Speaker 8: this morning, I realized it was gonna be all downhill.
• 56:07
  Speaker 8: Oh funny anything.
• 56:11
  Speaker 6: Yeah, it's uh, it's I mean, it's interesting stuff and
• 56:15
  Speaker 6: it is also true. And you know, I've experienced it
• 56:20
  Speaker 6: with my parents both ways, instant and long and drawn out.
• 56:26
  Speaker 6: And you know, as I was going through, you know,
• 56:30
  Speaker 6: the grieving process. Well, you know, I really went through
• 56:36
  Speaker 6: and this is probably uh, you know, right up Bill's alley. Uh.
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: I don't know if he's ever had to work with
• 56:46
  Speaker 6: a head case like me. You know, I was lied
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: to under the umbrella of protection. Just wanted to protect you. Well,
• 56:57
  Speaker 6: when you try to protect me, you pissed me off.
• 57:01
  Speaker 6: And so I was told that my dad had died
• 57:03
  Speaker 6: from a heart attack. Well, you know, I got this
• 57:08
  Speaker 6: little inner voice, you know, God speaks to me. And
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: it took me probably seven years, and I was like
• 57:22
  Speaker 6: something they write, something's not right, and not only looks
• 57:26
  Speaker 6: at me, and he goes, well, you know, there is
• 57:29
  Speaker 6: such a thing as a burst, I mean a death certificate.
• 57:32
  Speaker 6: And I looked at him and I'm like profound man.
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: And so I called the county. And you know in
• 57:42
  Speaker 6: Colleen fort Hood that's what I call it, it's Belle County.
• 57:47
  Speaker 6: And I called the county. Oh yeah, we've got that. Okay,
• 57:50
  Speaker 6: I want that, Okay, I'll mail it to you. And
• 57:54
  Speaker 6: it said homicide. Well then my grief started again again.
• 58:02
  Speaker 6: It was all different. First it was good day, my
• 58:08
  Speaker 6: dad died from a heart attack. Okay, I'm grieving, I'm sad,
• 58:12
  Speaker 6: I miss I'm twenty one. I miss my daddy, you know,
• 58:16
  Speaker 6: all that kind of stuff. I missed that he was
• 58:19
  Speaker 6: fixing to retire in nine months and be away from
• 58:22
  Speaker 6: that dagnable army. And I don't mean anything by that
• 58:27
  Speaker 6: unless you're an army brat. You know, you may not
• 58:29
  Speaker 6: understand why I said that. But then when I read
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: that death certificate, it started all over again, and it
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: was different. And I went through anger first because I
• 58:44
  Speaker 6: was like, who took my dad from me? And so
• 58:51
  Speaker 6: then I get police reports and you know, all this
• 58:55
  Speaker 6: to read and found out some things that I didn't
• 58:58
  Speaker 6: really like, and so then there was a different kind
• 59:01
  Speaker 6: of anger. But then with my mom, it was long
• 59:03
  Speaker 6: and drawn out, you know it, it was horrible. And
• 59:08
  Speaker 6: then you know, after she passed, it was like it
• 59:13
  Speaker 6: didn't matter how old I was. And this was only
• 59:15
  Speaker 6: what four or five years ago. I think I'm an orphan.
• 59:19
  Speaker 6: Well that's just whoy. But that was my first reaction.
• 59:26
  Speaker 6: I remember sitting at the nursing home in a chair,
• 59:28
  Speaker 6: going I'm an orphan. But that was my first reaction.
• 59:34
  Speaker 6: So I actually went to grief twice with my dad
• 59:38
  Speaker 6: and once with my mom.
• 59:40
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it comes back, it comes back that I just
• 59:47
  Speaker 8: can't even imagine. Did you ever find out what really happened?
• 59:54
  Speaker 6: Mm? He was shot six times in a bathtub, but
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 6: it's unsolved.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 8: Wow. So sad, Oh, very sad. Did she describe those
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 8: steps or things as you described them, Bill in a
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 8: different way by getting angry at first? Yeah, there's this
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 8: Actually probably wasn't the first, that that was really the
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 8: because she had to re experience the whole thing, and
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 8: she'd gone through the first couple of things prior. But yeah,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 8: there's no there's no waysh I say, there's no chronicity here.
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 8: These things, these are aspects, and they can occur in
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 8: any order, and sometimes fifty years later it'll all come
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 8: back just like the very first day.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they'll.
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 8: Yep yep. And I think.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 6: I think I went through the anger when I found
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 6: out the truth about how my dad died first, because
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 6: that made sense to me because I had already gone through,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: you know, the initials, right, the other stuff. I had
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 6: done it, and I had done it over and over
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 6: and over, and I didn't really do anger. Anger didn't
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 6: make sense. Why would I be mad at me or
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 6: my dad or anyone else because he had a heart attack,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 6: you know, and I was kind of you know, in
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 6: that frame of mind. I lost both grandparents to heart attacks,
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 6: and so then here's my dad. But something didn't make
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 6: sense because he was forty four, you know, and they
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 6: were mid seventies, and so that was one of the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: things that said, you know, come on, Susy, you're not
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 6: a done blonde. Think this out. You deserve the truth.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 6: And so then when I got the truth, Holy cow, Oh,
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 6: the grief was so different.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 8: Then, hm, well you've been you'd been betrayed, and you've
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 8: been lied to, and yes, yeah, it makes it makes
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: a difference. Wow. I just can't imagine that that would
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 8: make anybody all five of those things, probably at once.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 6: And it was all it was all consuming because now
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 6: not only did my dad, my dad was murdered and
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 6: won the heart attack, and I had a death certificate
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 6: that steers you in the face, you know, in black
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: and white with the truth. And then you got a
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: husband who's thinking and has enough sense, and you know,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 6: my immediate reaction after reading it was get me the
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 6: hell out of here. And I think I remember hitting
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: the dashboard, you know, with with my with my fist
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 6: and saying, get me out of here, and Towy said,
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 6: the police departments right across the road, when you like
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 6: to go over there and see if they know something.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 6: And I looked at him and I was like, again, man,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 6: that's profound. And so you know, I went over there
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 6: and walked away with I don't know, seventy five pages,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 6: you know, interviews and ballistics and corners report and original
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 6: police board, you name.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 8: It, it was.
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 6: It was in there. It was who needs to watch law?
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 6: Law and order? When you got that in your hands?
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: And and so one of the things that I became
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: during that period was obsesses it. And so I don't
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: know if y'all remember this or not, but you know,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: before we had computers and things like that, I had
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 6: these really long pieces of like accounting paper, and so
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: I used them because they were long, and I was
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: making a timeline and I was dissecting every word, every hour,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: every minute. Ever this the last time they saw him?
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 6: Who saw him? Last? Man? I went through that stuff
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: to the point that I couldn't even hardly function. It
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: totally consumed me.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 8: You bet, I just can't imagine anybody handling that. All right, guys,
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 8: we're almost at break time.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, The person when we come back, Doc, I gotta
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 6: say this, the person who handles stress really well, Well.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't know if that's a good I don't
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 8: know if that's a good thing or not. And what's
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 8: that is for Sissy who thinks she handles it real well,
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 8: was probably sitting on the moon when she found out. Well, hey,
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 8: let's go to break and when we come back, we'll
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  Speaker 6: Okay, So I think it's been a while since I've
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: done any kind of like dessert or sweet or whatever.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 6: And you know, last week we talked about you know, fermented.
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: Foods and the gut and you know, they.
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  Speaker 6: Whatever they are. I would like for us to think
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: that we should need sweets, but it depends on what
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 6: you're eating. And I was talking about last week where
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 6: this lady in Harper is making some fabulous sour dough breads,
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 6: and she made sour dough chocolate chip cookies and so
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: their pricey. It's like fifteen bucks for I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: six maybe eight, but they're very large. So I decided
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  Speaker 6: I'm going to find a recipe that's as close as
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 6: it is to hers. You know, shame on me. And
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 6: this recipe makes twenty four cookies. And you know, if
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 6: you've got you know, I know, girls of women or whatever,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 6: they have an abundance of sour dough starter, and then
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 6: they're like, what can I do. I've got to do something.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 6: I need to use it up, make some chocolate chip cookies.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 6: So it's a cup of active sour dough starter. And
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 6: you want this at room temperature, and then a half
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: of a cup of unsalted butter, you know, melted and
• 1:10:04
  Speaker 6: then slightly cooled. You don't want to kill you know,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 6: your your active culture in your sour dough starter. Half
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 6: a cup of brown sugar. And this is where I would, personally,
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 6: I would have to change it up, and so did
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 6: this lady in Harper. So it calls for a half
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 6: a cup of brown sugar and a quarter of a
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 6: cup of granulated sugar. And I would just do three
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 6: quarters of a cup of raw holkin sugar, and then
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 6: a teaspoon of good vanilla, not flavoring, but actual vanilla,
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 6: and one in three quarter cups of all purpose flour,
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 6: and of course around here, pardon me, we use organic flour,
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 6: unbleached all purpose, a teaspoon of baking soda, quarter teaspoon
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 6: of sea salt, and then one cup of semi sweet.
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  Speaker 6: You could do dark chocolate, whatever you like. Chocolate chips.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: I like to use the Lily brand. And so you
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: do a preheature oven to three point fifty and then
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: you line two baking sheets because this is gonna make
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: two dozen with parchment paper. So in your large in
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 6: a large bowl, and you know you could do this
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 6: by hand easy. You're gonna make your melted butter and
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 6: your sugar and sugar because we're replacing the brown in
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 6: the white with three quarters of a cup of raw
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 6: hol king until it's just creamy. And then you're gonna
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 6: stir in your shower dough starter and then your vanilla
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  Speaker 6: extract and then in a separate bowl, and you really
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 6: should do it in a separate bowl. You're gonna mix
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  Speaker 6: together all your dry ingredients and then you're going to
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  Speaker 6: add this these dry ingredients over into your bigger bowl.
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  Speaker 6: And then you're gonna fold in your chocolate chips and
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 6: do it gently. You don't want to, you know, mix
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  Speaker 6: it too too vigorously. And so I'm guessing from the
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  Speaker 6: size of these scoops, these are probably smaller than hers were,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 6: if you want to make bigger cookies, you know, just
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 6: make twelve out of the same amount of dough, or
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 6: you know, do it this way, and so you're gonna
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 6: scoop about a tablespoon ball of dough onto the prepared
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  Speaker 6: baking sheet. And then the one thing that she did
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  Speaker 6: do for the ones that I bought was she sprinkled
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  Speaker 6: the top with some coarse sea salt, and Celtic sea
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  Speaker 6: salt does make a fine and makes of course now
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  Speaker 6: that you wouldn't do much, just a teeny tiny little
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 6: pants on top of each cookie. And then if you
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 6: go buy the recipe and make it tablespoon sized balls,
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  Speaker 6: you're gonna cook it for ten to twelve minutes until
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  Speaker 6: it's kind of golden brown and the centers you want
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 6: them to still look like they're undercooked, so that you
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 6: got a chewy cookie instead of a hard cookie. And
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 6: that's it. Cookies in a bad joke.
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  Speaker 8: Well, the cookies were good, so we lose Doc Wells
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  Speaker 8: as they say, he's out in the weeds.
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  Speaker 2: He sound.
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  Speaker 8: So well so so so anyway, yeah, that's but this
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  Speaker 8: sour dough, I've never heard of sour dough. Charlott, shit,
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  Speaker 8: you know, there's only one kind of cookie, and that's
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: a chocolate chip cookie. Everything else is kind of make believe.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 8: But that sower dough cookie that sounds really nice.
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  Speaker 6: It was so good that it made me forget that
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  Speaker 6: that box of cookies cost fifteen dollars and.
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  Speaker 8: It was best.
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  Speaker 6: It was decadent. But you know, you're you're eating a
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: fer minted food, even though it's a chocolate chip cookie,
• 1:14:48
  Speaker 6: and it sounds like would taste horrible, but it was
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  Speaker 6: the opposite. I don't know, I don't know how to explain,
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  Speaker 6: and not to mention a little bit of coarse salt,
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 6: you know, the that she sprinkled on the top was
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 6: just like, you know, absolute perfection. But this gal, she's
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  Speaker 6: making sour doughs, cinnamon rolls in these cookies, and I'm like, seriously.
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  Speaker 6: I looked at my husband and I said, can we
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 6: move in next door to her?
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  Speaker 8: Oh? Yeah, I didn't. Was a kid growing up, we
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  Speaker 8: never heard of the only time I heard of sour
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  Speaker 8: dough cooking was when in the gold rush in Alaska,
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 8: and they always made sour dough bread. And that was
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 8: the first sour dough I'd ever I ever had any
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 8: till I was probably in college. He just didn't get
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  Speaker 8: it right.
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  Speaker 6: I didn't have it growing up. It wasn't a staple.
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  Speaker 6: And I can remember I don't know if you've ever
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  Speaker 6: heard of this restaurant. I don't think there's very many
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: of them, least but in downtown Dallas, and I'm talking
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  Speaker 6: about a stone's throw, you know, away from Deely Plaza,
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  Speaker 6: so just I mean, it's in the shadows of where
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 6: Kennedy was assassinated. But it was a spaghetti warehouse and
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 6: they had the sour sour dough bread that it was endless,
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 6: and you know, they would bring it out to you,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 6: and you know, the first time I already tasted it,
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 6: I was like, I mean, who needs spaghetti with this available?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, it was the first time I had it.
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 8: It was great. And I don't remember it was when
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 8: I lived in Minnesota that they a restaurant, Italian restaurant.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 8: But you know, you make your order and they'd go
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 8: away and start on that stuff. But they'd bring out
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 8: a plate with h it wasn't sour dough bread, but
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 8: it was just really buying Italian bread and a little
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 8: side saucer of olive oil and you just get your
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 8: bread in an olive oil. And hell, but that was
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 8: that was that was enough of a meal for me,
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 8: right there. I kept happy with that. You know, that's
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 8: good stuff.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I heard that Olive Garden is supposed to be
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 6: coming the Curvel, so that's twenty minutes down the road.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 6: But even still Olive Gardens, it's like text mix. You know,
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 6: it's not really Italian. You know, it's not true Italian food.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 6: And no, I mean it's something different.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 8: It's good, but yeah, it's good, but it's not Italian food. Yeah.
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 6: Right, And so yeah, the sourdough cookies, I've wanted to
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 6: find a recipe for that that was as similar and
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 6: ingredients as hers was. And I would never have the
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 6: courage to say, well, you know, I love your cookies.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 6: I don't want to pay fifteen dollars kind of having
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 6: your recipe and and so I'm just gonna, you know,
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 6: play round with until I get it dialed in, you know,
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 6: just like I want it. But as far as ingredients
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 6: from this recipe I just shared, it's really really close
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: to her ingredients. So anyways, I.
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  Speaker 8: Would respect probably how she got a lot of her
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 8: She just found something that sounded good as she tried
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 8: things and tried things until she found one that was
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 8: close and that she liked, and then that became hers.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 8: I mean my Italian I did that. You know. They
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 8: stuff was passed down from one generation to the next,
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 8: but they always changed it.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 6: A little bit, right, Something was always tweaked, just a
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 6: tiny little bit. I remember, and I shared this recipe before,
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 6: and I've tapped all this stuff up because I wanted
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 6: to stay around, and you know, I gave a folder
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 6: or three ring binder to my daughter and to my
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 6: son so that they would have these recipes.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 2: But yeah, one that is so.
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  Speaker 6: Simple, and I was told that it came up from
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 6: you know, the Depression era, and you just make uh,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 6: you just take ground me and you put salt and
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 6: pepper in it, and there's the change. I'm like, no,
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna add some garlic powder and I'm gonna add
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 6: some onion pet and so they have never done that,
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 6: you know, in the Depression era. Just some salt and
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 6: some pepper and making some patties, you know, similar to
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 6: like a Hamburger patty, maybe a little thicker, and then
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 6: you brown them has to be in an iron skillet,
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 6: and then you know, you take them out and whatever
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 6: little I mean, you're kind of salcne and whatever. A
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 6: little bit of oil is in there. You add some
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 6: flour to it, and then you brown that flour. And
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 6: here's where the Depression era stuff comes in. You didn't
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 6: always have milk, and you might have had dry milk,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 6: but you were saving that dry milk for something else,
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: or you were saving your milk for something else, so
• 1:20:08
  Speaker 6: you added water. And so this has gone three generations,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 6: you know, three generations I think in my family. And
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 6: it's a water gravy. I kid you not. And I
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 6: have literally made this for company and they're like, oh,
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 6: sit and with a salad and you know, some green
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: beans and you know whatever. Just really made it nice.
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: Oh susy, I've got to have this recipe, and I'm like,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: I'm embarrassed to give it to you.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 8: Well, you know, until you said that, I really hadn't remembered.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 8: My mom used to say, you always make beef gravy
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 8: with water, and if you have pork pork stuff, you
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 8: use milk. So I didn't know that. Well, there he is,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 8: he is, and we just.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 6: Been burning time, you know, talking nonsense.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 8: I've been here, But no, I didn't I hadn't heard that.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: You always used water if you were making like a
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 6: beef gravy.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 8: It makes sense, yeah, yeah, otherwise it gets to be
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 8: too sick and it's just not good, right.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 6: It's it's creamy.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 8: I never heard that either.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: Well, we were talking about you know, right, yeah, we
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 6: were talking about a depression recipe. And you know another
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 6: one that came out of my past is hot water
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 6: corn bread.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 2: And that one is.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 6: Literally coin meal boiling water and salt, and you know,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: it's kind of like a mush, but it's a fried mush.
• 1:21:59
  Speaker 6: So it's better. Everything's better when it's fried. And so
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 6: I can I can remember my kids saying to my
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 6: to my mother, grandma, please please make us some hot
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 6: water corn bread. And you know, I'm like, really two
• 1:22:18
  Speaker 6: ingredients and you're fawning over her.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 8: I want to ask you, since we're just there, when
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 8: hotly cleaned up, your skill is before you re seasoned him?
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 8: Did he take them right down to the right down
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 8: to the metal on the.
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 6: One he did? It was I would say that this
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: skill it was my grandmother's and I would say it
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 6: was probably uh seventy five years old as a watch,
• 1:22:52
  Speaker 6: and he did, and it was. It was crusty and
• 1:22:56
  Speaker 6: bumpy on the outside. The inside it was perfect. I
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 6: mean the inside. I could put a quarter teaspoon of
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 6: butter in it, put an egg in it, and cook
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 6: it and it won't stick. The outside was crusty and
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 6: bumpy and ugly. And so he took it outside and
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 6: he put it in his vice, and the wire wheeled
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 6: to it and got all that often. Yes, he did
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 6: go all the way down to the metal because of
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 6: how bad it was. And I just seasoned it. I
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 6: put it on the old cookie sheet because I had to,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 6: you know, I didn't want to ruin a good cookie sheet.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 6: And I just kept putting, you know, my oil on it.
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 6: And at that time when we did it, and we
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 6: didn't eat this stuff, but I always had my grandmother's
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 6: words in the back of my head. You have to
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 6: season you're a cast iron with chrisco. And so I
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 6: bought a teenyld can, the smallest one I could, and
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 6: so I would just take a paper cow put that,
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 6: bake it. I probably went through the seasoning process three
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 6: times before it was a nice smooth black finish.
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 8: Okay, okay, yeah, And I got one of my mom's
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 8: skillets it's it's kind of gunky on the inside. And
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 8: I thought, yeah, I wanted to ask Susan about you know,
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 8: when you take that wire brush on the drill motor
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 8: and get that stuff off of there, and how far
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 8: down did you take it?
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 6: So yeah, and you could use a palm sander one
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 6: and and just I mean if it was round, it
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 6: was if it was an orbital standard'd be easier than
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 6: the square ones or the twinty ones. Yeah, that's true, yea,
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 6: And yeah, I mean you can take it down that way.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 8: Okay, okay, good, good. One of these times I'll have
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 8: a couple of glasses Scots and I'll give them a try.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 6: There you go, and the wire wheel attached to uh,
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 6: you know, a drill works really really good on the outside.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 6: I don't know, you might on the inside, but then
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 6: you might want to go up with.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 8: Well, you know though, there's a company right there in
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 8: Fredericksburg that sells them, and they might tell you how
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 8: to refurbish it. They may have some tricks up their sleep. Yeah. Well,
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 8: she hasn't talked about that, and I think she posted
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 8: a posted a how to on the web page and
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 8: what trum got and I said, looks that lookscept for
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 8: the most that's all. I give it a toy. Well good, well,
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 8: guys were at that time. It's anything you want to
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 8: close out?
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 6: Because he go ahead, Well, I just really you know,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: we made lemonade from Lemons tonight. I like it when
• 1:26:03
  Speaker 6: we can, you know, defeat the digital demons, so to speak,
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 6: and and end up with the show regardless of what
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 6: the world goes as. So I appreciate y'all.
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 8: Well, I thought you had to make lemonade from Lemons. Otherwise,
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 8: what do you call it?
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 6: I'll come on now, it'd be nice. I'm gonna come
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 6: up with another joke.
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 8: I didn't come up with another joke anytime, you like,
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 8: I didn't have any tonight, or I mean I did,
• 1:26:41
  Speaker 8: but some of our earlier stuff sidetracked to me. So anyway,
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 8: anything else you want to close out before we give
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: it the bill?
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 6: No, and if and if he says no, we got
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 6: seven minutes to burn.
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 8: Well we'll take care of that. Bell. I'm sure you
• 1:27:03
  Speaker 8: got something to close out. Uh yeah, I've uh was
• 1:27:08
  Speaker 8: in our local grocers the other day and uh, I've
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 8: always liked Shiner bock beer. I just like the dark beer.
• 1:27:19
  Speaker 8: It's just nice. And I was looking at and right
• 1:27:22
  Speaker 8: next to it, Shiner Brewery is putting out a shandy
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 8: s h A N D Y. I haven't had shandy
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 8: since I was in England. And it is beer and
• 1:27:36
  Speaker 8: lemon juice mixed. Sounds sounds kind of terrible, but it's
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 8: really mighty fine, mighty fine.
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 6: Interesting.
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 8: Yeah. I saw somebody makes out a summer there with
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 8: some lemon up there and somewhere in the East coast. Uh,
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 8: this is this is Texas beer with limited it. It's
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 8: a really nice summer drink. Sounds good. I've to try that.
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 6: Well, you know, Corona with a wedge of limeman. It
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 6: is fabulous. Something happens when you go down to the coast,
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 6: you know, and then you smell that air and then
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 6: there's sand everywhere, and then you're thinking, I gotta have
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 6: an ice cold Corona with a slice of wine.
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 8: Yep, well, ice cold beer. Is this a wonderful thing? Anyway,
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 8: I'm not much on the I p a stuff that
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 8: the younger generation came up with. It's mostly like drinking
• 1:28:48
  Speaker 8: pure hops, so I haven't been a big fan. I
• 1:28:52
  Speaker 8: like dark beer, susy you can relate to like Spotting
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 8: over in Germany. Course you were probably young, but you
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 8: were probably still sneaking beer. But Spotting had some great beers,
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 8: and I like the German beer. And where else is it? Belsium?
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 8: I think because they have the laws where you can
• 1:29:16
  Speaker 8: only put certain things in the ingredients and that that's
• 1:29:20
  Speaker 8: pretty cool. But I like a good dark beer, but
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 8: not that hoppy. Have you have you tried the I
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 8: p as? You guys?
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 6: No, I don't really like those.
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't like them at all, but it became
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 8: kind of like the cool. Uh my daughter's generation thought
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 8: they were cool with that, and then they all had
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 8: to have square toed shoes to go with their I pas.
• 1:29:49
  Speaker 8: I'm sure we did sillier things, but when you're older
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 8: you look at it, it looks so funny. I see
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 8: all the people out there running around now with ammas
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 8: and their house shoes at the store. That's cool. See
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 8: you know, Yeah, we had laughed you to death. When
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 8: I was growing up. We saw that I had a
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 8: football of quick things. Excuse me. We talk about politics,
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 8: and I was thinking today one of the things I
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 8: don't like about politics is, like, just recently, I forget
• 1:30:30
  Speaker 8: what state it was in but they were so proud
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 8: of themselves they voted a bill that gave parents parental
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 8: rights with the kids at school. I mean, that's like
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 8: the constitutional carry all. That stuff's already legal. And you
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 8: try to tell some parent that they don't have parental
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 8: rights with their kid in your school, you're going to
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 8: have a problem. So that's why I don't like about politics.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 8: They vote on the stupidest stuff, and then right now
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 8: they keep screaming about every once in a while when
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 8: there's an unfortunate incident at a school that armed security
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 8: could have handled, and they don't want no armed security
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 8: for the schools. But the people complaining saying that all
• 1:31:24
  Speaker 8: have private security protecting them. So they are all a
• 1:31:30
  Speaker 8: bunch of phonies. And politics is a six six thing,
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 8: but we will touch on it as needed. And ladies
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 8: and gentlemen, if you tuned in, we're a half hour
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 8: shart of the show. We had some technical issues and
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 8: probably on my mixer in We're not sure, but we
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 8: hopefully will figure that out. And that's where our producer
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 8: in the background scene comes in. He's very good at
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 8: that kind of stuff. So I guess we're just about
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 8: the time of night. They say thank you so much
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 8: for all of you being here and tune it in
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 8: to listen to us. We hope that our topics are
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 8: interesting and give you some food for thought, and maybe
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 8: teach you something you didn't know, and get you to
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 8: ask some questions, and hope for a little bit entertaining.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 8: And since he even had a joke tonight, so pretty good,
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 8: maybe we'll get to pull out of joke. So may
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 8: God bless you all with health and happiness and keep
• 1:32:40
  Speaker 8: your lives peaceful, free and safe. And as you know,
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 8: it is that time of night for good scotch, good cigars,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 8: and good night things.
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 12: The love I've known has always been the most destructive kind.
• 1:33:00
  Speaker 12: Guess that's why now I feel so old. Before my time.
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  Speaker 5: Yesterday, when I was young, the taste of life was
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 5: sweets rain upon my tongue.
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 6: I teased at length, as if it were a.
• 1:33:22
  Speaker 5: Foolish game, the way that even breeze may tease a
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 5: candle flame. A thousand dreams I dreamed, the splendid things
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 5: I planned.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 8: I always built too LUs on weekend shifting sand.
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 5: I lived by night and shunned the naked light of day.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 5: And only now I see how they years ran away
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 5: yesterday