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Lloyd Doggett Warns DOGE and MUSK Had ‘Read And Write Access’ To Sensitive US Databases · Elon Musk Podcast

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  Who know is that first Mr. Must saw tax information that is
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  housed in the Treasury's Bureau of Fiscal Services And when the
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  former nonpartisan top career official at the Treasury
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  Department, a trusted guardian of Americans privacy under both
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  Republican and Democratic presidents for more than 35
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  years. When he rebuffed Musk and said
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  he wanted to protect the privacy as he had done for three
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  decades, he was pushed aside. While administration officials
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  initially testified that Doge was granted read only, They were
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  just going to read and invade our privacy.
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  That way the sensitive data they were later and forced to admit
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  that the Musketeers had both read and write.
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  That is, they can make changes in the sensitive databases
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  related to federal tax returns, Social Security benefits,
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  Supplemental Social Security Income benefits, and pay for
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  veterans. Not satisfied with this
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  temporary access to American families, financial information
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  must then came for some of the even more highly guarded
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  taxpayer data that's contained in the IRS Integrated Data
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  Retrieval System. This is a system to which access
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  is denied to political officials, even the IRS
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  Commissioner, the taxpayer advocate, and the IRS Chief
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  information officer. And I want to respond directly
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  to you, Mr. Schmucker, about that and your claim that there
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  were hundreds of additional people that we wanted to have go
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  into all this data. What we wanted was to enforce
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  the tax laws. We wanted the tax cheats to be
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  brought to justice. You all took the cop off the
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  beat. But let me make this point.
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  The data that Musk and the Musketeers are seeking that they
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  perhaps got exposed is data that is so sensitive that even the
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  IRS commissioner is not entitled to see it.
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  That is protected data protected until this happened.
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  And the claim that because some of it that they got was
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  anonymous would not get into the privacy was rebutted by Mr.
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  Barthole when I questioned him as the head of the Joint
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  Committee on Taxation, an independent, nonpartisan group,
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  who explained to us how that data could be used.
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  When Mr. Musk and his AI and his minions and his Musketeers get
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  together and compare these databases and invade our
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  privacy, we must adopt this resolution.
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  I yield back. Gentleman yields.
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  Now recognize Mr. Evans, just write the last word.
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  Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Mr. Chairman, this conversation,
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  led by Mr. Doggett, the gentleman could speak into the
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  microphone. This conversation LED by Mr.
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  Doggett, I think he needs to know I like the year of my time.
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  To Mr. Doggett, thank you very. Much.
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  Thank you very much for that. There are two laws that Mister
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  Musk and DOGE are ignoring. They are Section 61 O three of
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  the Internal Revenue Code and the Privacy Act of 1974.
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  Section 61, O3, which has been before this committee on
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  numerous occasions, protects the confidentiality of tax returns
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  and return information, including all of the tax return
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  information that is received, are collected by the Internal
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  Revenue Service. The Privacy Act of 1974 was
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  designed to provide individual Americans with more control over
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  the government gathering, disseminating, and using our
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  private information. What's happened to the
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  libertarians in the Republican Party who once believed that
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  government was a challenge and that the privacy of American
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  citizens should be protected from the overreach of
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  government? What we have here is an
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  overreach without justification. Why is it necessary in fighting
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  waste, fraud and abuse to interfere with the personal data
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  of American citizens, every American citizens of the issues
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  that we have before us today or that DOGE has also sought access
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  to what are called omnibus sharing agreements.
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  This is another aspect I've not touched on so far.
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  And these omnibus sharing agreements would let must the
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  link individual tax data across the whole host of different
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  federal agencies. A federal statute makes it
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  unlawful for the IRS to share taxpayer data with other
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  agencies for reasons unrelated to the administration of our tax
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  system. New York University Tax Law
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  Center experts indicate that such an omnibus information
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  sharing agreement across agencies would not conform with
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  the strict, strict rules of 61 O3 that govern how and when
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  taxpayer information can be shared.
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  And so again, here is an area that needs to be explored other
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  than through an empty witness chair to find out about the
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  extent of the violation of federal law with this sharing
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  agreement that has been rubber stamped by the administration.
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  And most recently, just last week, Mr. Musk came for more of
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  Americans private information stored in the Child Support
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  database that is used to enforce court order child support
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  payments, which is a good, good thing.
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  But each agency receives tax data that has a detailed data
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  sharing agreement with IRS and they have to comply with those
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  taxpayer privacy protections when that goes over to the
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  Department of Health and Human Services.
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  Unfortunately, Health and Human Services is now run by the
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  vaccine denier Robert F Kennedy Junior.
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  And he not disregarding really those requirements.
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  He gave those exactly what they asked for.
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  It's simply outrageous that Americans private and personal
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  financial information has not been protected from the prying
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  eyes of an unelected billionaire and his teenage Musketeers.
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  At a bare minimum, Congress and the American people need a full
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  accounting of what data has been shared with Musk and Doge and
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  for what purposes. And despite all the rhetoric on
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  the other side, we have absolutely no explanation as to
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  why that right of Americans for a full accounting is not being
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  provided, why it is being obstructed and blocked by the
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  Republicans. Answers to this resolution of
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  inquiry on behalf of all the Democrats on this committee will
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  provide us with a little of that accounting.
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  Only then can we begin to move forward as a bipartisan
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  majority, as the bipartisan majority did over 50 years ago
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  when there was criminality from another Republican president in
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  the wake of the Watergate scandal and addressed the
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  shortcomings of the enforcement of our tax privacy law and begin
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  to restore taxpayer trust in our voluntary tax system.
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  The Republicans basically say they don't know and they don't
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  care what Musk is doing with your personal tax return, your
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  Social Security information, your health data, anything
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  concerning child custody. And by blocking this resolution,
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  they just want to ensure that no questions are asked and no
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  information about this likely violation of multiple federal
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  laws ever becomes public. That's why we should adopt this
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  resolution. And I yield back.
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  Authority, statutory authority. We will remain independent and
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  objective and we'll continue to follow our auditing standards
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  and our work continues unabated as we currently are still
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  working under our Inspector General, Doctor Kafari.
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  Thank you. And my question to Mr. Curry is
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  for over 100 years, GAO has played a crucial role in
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  enhancing the effectiveness of government programs and ensuring
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  taxpayer money is well spent. Over the past 20 years, GAO work
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  has resulted in about 1.45 trillion in financial benefits
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  and over 30,000 programs and operational benefits.
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  Through its high risk list, GAO focused attention on the most
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  significant challenges facing the government.
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  Once the challenge is human capital, including skills
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  shortage, a challenge Doge does not seem to appreciate as it
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  purges civil servants, what are the consequences of reducing the
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  federal workforce using a sledgehammer rather than a
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  scalpel? Well, you're correct.
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  Many of the high risk areas, and there's over 30 of them across
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  all of the federal government that we've identified are on the
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  list because of some sort of staffing or capacity challenge.
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  That means that either they don't have the right number of
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  people to perform the mission or they don't have the right
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  skills. So typically what you do is you,
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  you figure out what you want the government or the agencies to do
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  and how you want to do it, and then you figure out what sort of
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  staff you need to do it. So obviously it's, it's going to
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  have some implications, but you know, we, we don't know yet what
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  exactly those will be. Thank you.
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  And Miss Lang, I didn't give you any time to respond.
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  So if you want to take a couple 30 seconds if you like.
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  No, thank you. I.
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  Think my colleague covered. Everything.
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  Thank you, Chair, and I yield back.
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