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#157: I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer (2006) · What's Your (Least) Favorite Scary Movie?

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Hello. What's your least favorite scary
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movie? The secret dies with you.
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Welcome to what, your least favorite scary movie, the
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podcast where we talk about the good, the bad, the ugly, and the
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absurd, and all of our favorite. And least favorite.
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Scary movies. Because we believe every horror
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movie rightfully has its fan base.
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Even if we don't always get it. My name is Travis.
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My name is Jesse. And welcome back, folks, because
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boy, do we have one for you today.
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We're talking about I'll always know what you did last summer.
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This is the movie that will truly.
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Make us question our thesis of the month.
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Does triples make it safe? No.
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In fact, I think this one actually answers it because the
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series died after this. Triples killed this one.
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Prime. OK, there's a TV show, but is
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that more of a book thing or is it based off of the movies?
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I don't. Know because we haven't watched.
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It I know, I heard it was terrible.
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We'll maybe watch it some way, yeah, somewhere down the line,
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but. I'm not gonna lie, there was a
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big chance that I was going to open it up with what's up,
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nerds. What's up, nerds?
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Just well, partially because there's not fun quotes to pick
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from this movie, and also because we've been on a hell of
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a McBride kick Danny over the weekend.
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Yeah, well, I was wondering like, was that a quote from the
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movie? But no, I I definitely sense The
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McBride in that. In fact, we're gonna be watching
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Danny McBride. Since we're not saying nerds
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like him. Or.
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Nerds. That's what I thought.
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Nerd. Fuck yeah, man.
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Every movie could use a little Danny McBride.
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I think this movie would have been a whole different thing if
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we had some Danny McBride. And I'm glad.
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Since we have the actor playing young Jesse and he can channel
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Danny McBride, I'm glad that we have one in reserve in case
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anything ever happens to him. They just need to always be on
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separate planes, like the president and the vice
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president. All right.
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Well, we talked about Danny McBride back in Halloween.
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We're talking about, I'll always know what you did last summer,
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but before we do that, do you have any announcements?
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Two okay one I am like 90% sure I have a sinus infection and.
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I'm at a weird place in the day where I can't take my daytime
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Sudafed cuz I won't fall asleep and I can't take my nighttime
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Sudafed because I will definitely fall asleep.
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So I'm living on albuterol and cough drops right now.
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So if I sound rough or if you hear the little clicking around
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in my teeth, that's all it is. Yeah, it's OK.
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I'm not hearing it too much myself, but I don't know what
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picks up on the mic. Sometimes we get like, random
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meows. I'm like, what the fuck?
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Yeah, yeah, it's. It was either that or see if I
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can handle editing out every single pause to take a drink of
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water or clear my throat And I went with the cough drops.
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OK, And the other is we want to acknowledge because so much of
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this podcast is born from our love of movies.
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And these movies aren't possible without the cast and crew that
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work on them. That goes to the writers, the
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directors, the editors, the sound people, the actors, the
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stunt people. All of those people are, if
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they're members of WJA or Zag, AFTRA are currently on strike
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because they're not being paid fairly now.
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Labor laws kind of a nerdy jam of mine.
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In fact, I gave Travis a brief overview of the Flsas while we
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were cooking dinner. This is true, the Flsas of the
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FLSA while we were cooking dinner.
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And I'm not gonna go into all of that, mostly because that's not
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my area of expertise. But the short version is that we
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should pay people what they're worth, and there are a lot of
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companies out there that are. Dicky doing them.
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And yeah, just skirting around as little as they can.
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Mostly streamers. Yep.
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Yep. If you ever wondered, like, why
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did they takedown this very popular show, oh, it's because
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if they don't leave it up for too long, they don't have to pay
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residuals or rights or anything to the people in person.
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Yeah, I read something about that a while ago.
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There's a lot of other little things like that that they do.
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But I wanted to go ahead and read this excerpt from Twitter
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from somebody involved. And a little movie that you all
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know I love and that would be Truth or Dare.
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So Nick Simon, Simon 367 on Twitter might as well post this
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year as well. The WGASAG Strike one small
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example. A lot of people have asked me
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questions lately about the strike, and I'm going to give
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you one small example. A film I made in 2017 premiered
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on Scifi and later on Netflix for five years.
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One year after this film came out, another studio made a
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strikingly similar film, even using the same title.
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Ironically, both were released by NBC Universal, but it's the
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Netflix portion of it I'll share with you.
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In October 2018, Netflix bought the rights to Truth or Dare and
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it immediately jumped to trending top 10 during
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Halloween. It did so well for Netflix.
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They bought the worldwide rights for five years, trending every
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Halloween season. Meanwhile, on YouTube, someone
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uploaded the entire movie, and when it was finally pulled down
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and it was at about 12 million views.
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Over the last couple of years, someone re uploaded the movie to
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YouTube where it's currently sitting at around 7.7 million
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views. Watch it here on YouTube if
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you'd like. Netflix won't share data or
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numbers, but I'm guessing based on these numbers, maybe 25
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million views of truth or dare worldwide.
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None of us. None of the cast, not the
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writer, not me. Nobody made a dime off of it
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besides the very minimal payments we received when we
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made the film. Our business is a constant
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trouble and getting. And getting residuals between
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jobs keeps us alive. When you take that away and
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devalue the creative process and the creative team that is
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driving viewers to your platform, then it takes away
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everything that this industry has built upon.
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This strike is just as important as the strike in 1960 when we
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finally got residuals and health insurance in the 1st place.
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Solidarity. So all that to say, support the
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people that make this stuff you love.
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Yeah, people aren't like. Striking because they're greedy.
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They're striking because they want to make a living wage.
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Yeah, and there's a lot of information and resources out
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there if you want a better understanding of it.
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I mean, if you've been listening to our show, then you know that
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we are no strangers to the bug Ted, and often we love the bug
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Ted. Yeah, the bug Ted's great.
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And those people, they really do make their money off like
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residuals. Conventions.
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Yeah, things like that. It's not like they're getting
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paid millions for going and doing these movies.
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Yeah, so that's that's the exception.
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Is the millionaires based off of movies not the norm, you know?
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Yeah, OK. Yeah, support them.
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And we're not really doing anybody favors by talking about
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this movie, because, I mean, this movie came out in 2006 and
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people still don't know about it.
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So maybe we are doing favors then.
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There are at least two people on Twitter that were reminded
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exist. I suppose that's true.
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Well, we'll remind some more people today, I suppose, if you
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guys didn't know. So you know what, if you're
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ready, actually, hold on, I gotta get the poll results
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first. So we talked about wrong turn
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three last week and we just wanted to know, are you a Hooten
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type? Are you the hollering type?
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So on Instagram, 60% of you guys are hooten and 40% are
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hollering. Meanwhile, over on Twitter, 14%
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are hooting and 86% are hollering.
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That sounds about right. I think the hollering definitely
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does trend more towards Twitter than Instagram, but I'm a
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holler, holler type of dude. I think it for me it depends on
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the context. I suppose.
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Like generally I would say more of a hollerer, but like say it
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shows. I.
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Hoot. I hoot everybody who says show.
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Yeah, everybody showed who this shows.
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Yeah, but I think I'm one of those people like she hoot and
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yeah, yeah, so. Both.
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Both is an answer too, by the way, so nothing wrong with that.
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All right? Now let's finally talk about the
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movie for this week. Are you ready?
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Yes, this was our Patreon voted episode.
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That's correct. And it was actually a tie, which
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we broke with not one, not two, but three.
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Rounds of rock, paper scissors. What was the other movie?
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Paranormal Activity 3. That's right.
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Well, you guys could have listened to us talk about Mika
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again. Even though he's not in the
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third one, we'll still talk. About it.
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I mean, we'll get there eventually.
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Come on, man, it's Paranormal Activity.
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Like, I don't know. I like talking about those.
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That's a good movie too. The third one.
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Yeah, it is, Yeah. Well, we're talking about this
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one today, Okay, So I'll always know what you did last summer.
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This released August 22nd, 2006 and we watched it on our DVD
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because this is a straight to DVD movie Yet again.
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I'm starting to realize that we're also kind of doing
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straight to DVD month and like just kind of coincidentally with
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all of these three equals that we're doing because yeah, yeah,
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yeah, it's OK. It's fun.
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Like, I I like tapping into that market because you don't get
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high quality stuff, but sometimes you find little gems.
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Maybe this is a gym, I don't know.
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OK, so you can watch this as of July 17th.
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Streaming nowhere. OK, but you can rinse it on
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Amazon, Apple, YouTube, Voodoo, Redbox, all of those.
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So it is an option and you can buy the DVD 3 pack like we did.
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Same as wrong turn 3. If you buy the three pack, you
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also get I know what you did last summer and I still know
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what you did last. Summer.
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Yeah. So two very good movies, yes.
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Yeah. So and then definitely another
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movie. Okay.
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Come on, we gotta okay. I know this movie is not that
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bad. You've had all of the negative
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jabs. Let me get a joke in there.
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Okay. I'm switching to positive now.
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I'm going positive on this movie.
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I love this movie. This movie's so fucking good.
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Okay, This is my favorite writer, Michael Weiss.
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He wrote this. Her name actually sounds kind of
10:38
familiar. He does have a movie that you
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like. I wrote some down here, so And
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this one that I don't like. And guess what?
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It's another three. What is it?
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Hostile Part 3. Yay.
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And that movie. Sucks.
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I love Hostile Part 3. God damn it's such a major step
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down from 1:00 and 2:00. So he wrote that.
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He also wrote Butterfly Effect two.
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Not seen that. Don't know why that movie needs
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a sequel. That one wrapped up perfectly
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with Ashton Kutcher. It wasn't completely in a loop.
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Yeah, right. Like you don't need.
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It wasn't necessary. Right.
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Well, we don't need a new season of Futurama because the 4th
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finale that they had was perfect.
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But. Every.
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Finale they've had is perfect. My mind went exactly there too.
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I don't know, maybe they'll drop the ball with this one.
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I would be too afraid to. Start future on the backup
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because like that ending was so perfect.
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Like, don't fuck this one up. Yeah, but they have come back
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from so many other good endings. The Devil's out hands are idol
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playthings. How many times can lightning
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strike? I mean, that's true.
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I mean, come on. All right, This movie was
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directed by Sylvian, White music by Justin Burnett, and special
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effects makeup by Brad Harden and Vance Hartwell.
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OK. So the cast we have.
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Brooke Nevin playing Amber David Patkin.
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I don't know how to say his name.
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I'm sorry. I'm trying my best.
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It's spelled PAETKAN Patkin. That's definitely one of those
12:12
that you can assume that you're pronouncing it correctly and
12:15
then you hear him say it and you're like, Oh well, I was
12:16
wrong. Yeah.
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Oh, I'm I'm almost sure that I'm wrong with that.
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But he plays Colby. Petkin.
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Pekin. I'd go with Petkin all.
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Right. So David Pekin plays Colby
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maybe? I don't know.
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I mean, he does. You just might be fucking up
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higher. Yeah, that's true.
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Tori de Vito plays Zoe. Ben Easter plays Lance.
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Seth Packard as Roger Casey. Clyde as Deputy Hafner, who I
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mistakenly enrolled as Hefner the entire time until I saw it
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written out one time. I was like, scribbled like
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Hafner. Michael Flynn plays Sheriff
12:53
Davis. And Don Shanks plays the
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fisherman. Does that name sound familiar to
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you? It does.
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He is a sun coordinator, and he worked on one of our favorite
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movies that may be controversial with a lot of other people.
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One of the best Halloween movies in the franchise, he was Michael
13:12
Myers. In Halloween Five, he is
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responsible for the goddamn giant, enormous neck.
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Yay. That's right, Don Shanks, baby.
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I mean, he's not responsible for the neck.
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Like I saw him in the special. Making of features, by the way,
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that whole making of that they have on this so terrible it
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doesn't tell you anything. What is it?
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It's 30 minutes and. Does that have the same kind of
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like shaky camera shots that is throughout all the rest of the
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movie? No, no, it doesn't.
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In fact, actually I was reading like an interview from the
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director and he was like super proud of that stuff because he's
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like. You know, the material's kind of
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the same, but I like to approach these as like an editing type of
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thing. Like, I'm gonna bring, like,
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interesting edits to this. And really, it's just like the
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it's kind of like the saw thing that was going on at the time,
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where things feel like really flashy and jumpy.
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Yeah, yeah, he didn't really, I don't know, you know, I mean,
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that could just be like a preference thing.
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Aesthetically, I don't think it works well with this movie.
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It works well with Saw, at least, but.
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Where was it? Yeah, so the special features
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thing, the making of it looks like it was made in about 5
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minutes. And whatever loaded video
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editing software that came with a brand new computer.
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So they opened up and it's like making of I'll always know what
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you did last summer, but it's like stupid flames.
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Flames are not important to this movie at all.
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I don't know why they chose flames, but it's like fucking
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hot rod flames. Listen, he's just making an
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editing choice. That's how he's approaching.
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Yeah, I guess. I don't know.
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I don't think he's responsible for this.
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I hope not. The guy we're speaking, we're
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speaking bad about him. He's still working today.
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He gets consistent work. He's just like a TV guy.
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I haven't made a fucking movie, but you know what I have made in
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about 2006. Making up power, no PowerPoints
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with a bunch of animated text, including play.
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It seriously looks like it's made in PowerPoint.
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I'm like, I kind of want to show you it has its own IMDb page.
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Everybody like just look it up. It has maybe 10 ratings and it's
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like got a four-star, like, you know, it's you know is.
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The rating for the making of higher or lower than the rating
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for the movie. Higher, yeah.
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And it, I mean, it just doesn't tell you anything.
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It's just like shots of the set and people talking, and it's
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just not very informative at all.
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I got zero information from it. All right?
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So that brings us to our game, Jesse, our favorite little game.
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Budget or. Budget.
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So what do? You what do you guys, I would
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say. It's probably up there really
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close with the new Indiana Jones movie.
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So like $350 million? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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I don't know, maybe maybe they were too embarrassed to release
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the numbers because I don't have any numbers for this one.
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No. Yeah, I don't have any sales, no
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sales figures or anything. The only numbers I do have are
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the IMDb scores. OK, And the IMDb score on this
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is 3.4. Oh my God, I was gonna guess
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3.3. Yeah, it is.
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This might actually be the lowest rated movie that we've
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talked about on this show. I can't think of another one
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that would be that well. I'll have to consult my
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spreadsheet. From like actual IMDb.
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No. I'm talking about like other
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people. Like the IMDb ratings on there.
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Yeah. Like, I'm sure we've rated
16:38
things more than that. But like, I don't think we've
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had one that way before. But I picked 3 movies, Okay, and
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these are all third entries and franchises.
16:48
Nice. Yeah, I know how that worked
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out. That's.
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Crazy how it lined out. So the first movie is Final
16:53
Destination 3? That's a solid one.
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Yeah. And I think it's kind of
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interesting too, because a lot of the times I was watching
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this, I kind of felt like I was watching what should have been a
17:03
final destination with the way that it looked and the way that
17:06
it was edited and the way that it had.
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David Petco, cuz he's the guy in Final Destination 2.
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That's like Lucky And won the lottery.
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That's him. That's him.
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Yeah. So Final Destination Three came
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out February 10th, 2006 with a budget of $25 million, worldwide
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gross of $118,000,000. Yeah, and an IMDb score of 5.8.
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I think that that's one of the strongest in the series.
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I love that movie. It's so good.
17:37
That is one of those franchises that I just can't think of a
17:39
weekend tree. I mean, it's not.
17:42
But like, even then, I think it rises to the top out of them
17:45
all. I think some people don't like
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it as much, but we we have one of those DVD's where you can
17:51
choose. It shapes the way that the movie
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plays out. Like some people can survive.
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Yeah, in fact, you can, like choose.
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You can make a choice at the beginning of the movie that
18:00
prevents the rest of the movie from ever happening.
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And you get like little snippets of like, what everybody went on
18:04
to do with their lives. Yeah, it's really cool.
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You can make it so Frankie Cheeks lives.
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Yeah, that's a choice. Yeah, which is weird because I
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don't know it creates a lot of plot holes, but but it is what
18:17
it is. The part of me that grew up
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reading the Goosebumps Readers Beware You choose your own
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scare. Yeah, books I love.
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That I know. I love it too.
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It's. Cool.
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I love that I can now get it in movie form.
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It's like I regressed cuz like I was reading when I was younger.
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And now I have to have my Choose Your Own adventure in movie
18:37
form. Look you actually this is making
18:39
me realize something. So this came out in 2006 which
18:42
is as we all know on this podcast was the day the.
18:46
Munas. Era The Golden Age of the Munas
18:50
era, because that's the year that Stay Alive came out.
18:53
And I was like texting Eric and Joe the other day and he was
18:57
asking me something about Stay Alive because he like, he's
18:59
like, you guys are the resident, like Stay Alive fans.
19:02
So I needed to ask you something.
19:03
I forgot what the question was, but he was, I didn't have an
19:06
answer for him. But I was like, you need to get
19:07
the DVD because the DVD lets you create a character and you can
19:12
like, unlock. Something you can unlock.
19:14
It yeah, you unlock something if you make the right character
19:17
combinations. I'm sorry.
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If you guys, if you guys wanna hear us, we did.
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Finally. Get the golden ticket.
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Aka we found an unrated version of Stay Alive.
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We now officially own that. Not to plug our Patreon early,
19:32
but I'm gonna go ahead and plug it.
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Yeah, if you if you join the budget tier of our Patreon, you
19:40
can even just do it for a month and download all of our bonus
19:42
episodes and then fuck off if you want.
19:43
That's true. Yeah.
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But yeah, that's that's one of our bonus episodes that we did
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was we? Talked about the difference.
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Yeah, we did a cut comparison, but it essentially became like
19:52
another rehashing. Of the movie, Yeah, it was so
19:54
different. Yeah, it really it when you get
19:57
the unrated version, it's kind of good, that's.
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Where I was telling Joe I was like, you need, like you need to
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watch the unrated version because that opens up a whole.
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Well, the only reason I started talking about this, I'm sorry,
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we've like, no in so many different ways.
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We're gonna make our own fun this week.
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We are, yeah. But like, this era, this time,
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right here was when. DVD menus were at their best.
20:17
We've lost all that now. And like DVD is in general,
20:21
because you could just do the Choose Your Own Adventure and
20:23
follow Destination Three or create a character with Frankie
20:25
Muniz, you know. Yeah, Speaking of the Muniz era,
20:31
Travis has decided that he thinks he wants to watch through
20:36
Malcolm in the Middle because he never watched it.
20:38
I I plan on doing that. Yeah, so that's that's an
20:41
adventure we're going to be going.
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To just in our. Personal lives.
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All right. So we've we kind of basically
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got 4 movies this week because we talked extensively if you
20:48
stay alive there. So the third movie is Saw Three.
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Which came out October 22nd. Was the 2nd movie Stay Alive?
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No, the second movie saw three. I'm making it the 2nd.
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Movie okay, I see what you're doing.
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Yeah, I get it cuz we're basically doing 4 movies this
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week. So Saw Three is the third movie.
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It came out October 27th, 2006. Slow ass motherfucking Turner.
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Right at the thresh. Or right at the thresh.
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Thresh, The Threshold, The Line of Budget, and Buck, Ted.
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Its budget was $10 million. Yeah, and it had a worldwide
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gross of 164,000,000 and an IMDb score of 6.2.
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People like that, Saw movie. I like that Saw movie.
21:31
Guess what, guys? Do we wanna do We wanna say it
21:34
now? Yeah, let's go ahead and put a
21:35
little teaser around next. So we're wrapping up our screen
21:38
coverage this month and we're gonna be diving into Saw next.
21:42
That's our next. Franchise will be Saw, so we
21:45
will be talking about this movie in four months.
21:49
Yes, yeah, right. Three months from now.
21:52
So that'll be your little wait. August.
21:55
September, October. That'll be October.
21:59
Yeah, all right. If Halloween, it must be saw.
22:02
That's right. So that works out perfectly for
22:04
us. And the 4th movie is one that
22:09
neither of us have watched. I don't think you've watched
22:12
this. But it's Pumpkinhead ashes to
22:15
ashes. No, I haven't seen that one.
22:17
Yeah, yeah, so this is the third Pumpkinhead entry.
22:19
I've only seen the first Pumpkinhead.
22:21
This one has Lance Hendrickson returning as Ed Harley As
22:26
Pumpkinhead. OK, like he gets brought back as
22:29
Pumpkinhead, but it's yeah, so that sounds cool.
22:32
I would watch it. Is Brian Bramer in that one?
22:35
I don't know. We'll have to ask him when we
22:37
see him later this year, yeah. He's gonna there just get.
22:39
Her fixed, Yeah. That came out October 28th,
22:42
2006. This is a scifi movie by the
22:44
way, so budget of $6,000,000 worldwide gross of nothing
22:49
because it went on scifi bitches and IMDb of 4.3.
22:54
OK, so our taglines, we have two of them.
22:56
Not a single tagline on the poster.
22:59
OK, but the first one is what he knows might kill you.
23:04
That sucks. Well, I hope you're thrilled
23:07
with the second one because it's get hooked.
23:11
I kinda like that one. You like that one?
23:12
Get hooked. OK, I feel like that one works
23:17
if it's a movie that doesn't take itself as seriously.
23:21
But this one, I think it does continue the serious tone of the
23:25
series. It doesn't go into the
23:26
intentional camp. I'm sorry, are you saying that
23:30
this movie, that this franchise is always super serious?
23:35
I mean, it plays everything very straight.
23:38
Except for Jack Black. And even then, that's by Jack
23:41
Black standards, that's a tame Jack Black.
23:43
What's his character supposed to be?
23:45
I know we talked about this when we talked about I still know.
23:49
But what's his character meant to be there?
23:51
Or did he just wander around the set?
23:53
And I. Can I be part of?
23:54
This I think he works as like he's like the pool board is
23:58
something cuz like he lives in the pool shed or maybe he just
24:04
made his home there and nobody ever.
24:06
Wanted to. Talk.
24:07
No, I'm saying Jack Black. Jack Black himself.
24:11
You know, that's a good question.
24:12
It could be one of those people that's just surprisingly a
24:15
horror fan. I'm like consistently surprised
24:18
by some of these people like Danny McBride and.
24:23
Jay Bear Show. I for one, this is the I'm very
24:26
excited for us to finally watch the Mario movie when it comes to
24:30
streaming next month. Yeah, since I've heard that Jack
24:33
Black wrote Peaches theme song and I've heard that Peaches
24:35
theme song slaps. Well, Miss Jack Black, It's
24:38
gonna slap. Yeah, he just slaps.
24:41
OK, so fun facts. So the third entry in the I Know
24:47
What You Did Last Summer series was announced back in 2000.
24:51
Just to remind everybody. The first one came out in 96,
24:55
the second one in 97 or it might be 97 and 98, I can't remember.
25:00
9798 because the. Screen was 96, and then Kevin
25:04
Williamson did this, so yeah. Yeah, Kevin Williamson became a
25:07
very little busy boy. Yeah, after 96.
25:12
I guess he was still too good for the I know what you did last
25:14
summer movies, huh? Because he didn't come back for
25:17
this one. But this one came so it was
25:20
announced in 2000. And it just kind of sat there
25:24
and nothing ever happened. It had a script that was
25:28
written. Jennifer Love Hewitt was gonna
25:30
return. Freddie Prinze Jr. was gonna
25:32
return. Brandy Norwood was gonna return.
25:35
We could have gotten more Brandy.
25:37
We could have, but for some reason the script just sat there
25:41
and it just went to waste. So.
25:45
By the time that they went in, did a new one, they had to just
25:49
rewrite everything with a whole new cast of characters because
25:52
they just, I guess, decided to go in a new direction with it.
25:55
I think they readjusted their expectations because I think
25:58
then they're like, OK, this is not going to go to theaters.
26:02
That's my take on that. At least the director for the
26:06
Sylvian White, he was brought in as a last minute replacement of
26:09
it because they had somebody that was working on the movie
26:12
but got fired two weeks before. Filming was to start.
26:16
Why'd he get fired? I don't know, but I do have his
26:18
name. It is Damon Sano, Santo Stefano.
26:24
Damon Santo, Stefano. I've looked, I looked him up and
26:28
he's. I don't think he's really got
26:30
anything noteworthy to us. But you're pulling it up now, so
26:34
you might find something that speaks to other people at least.
26:38
Or maybe you too, I don't know, HM.
26:43
No, he did one of the Cinderella story movies with Lucy Hale.
26:48
And we all know I Love Lucy Hale.
26:51
Do we know that? Have we talked about that?
26:52
Yeah, we. Done a couple Cinderella story
26:56
movies. He did bring it on again.
27:00
Is that the 2nd? I'm not sure if it's the 2nd or
27:04
the 3rd. OK, so like a couple things.
27:07
Something called revenge Ooh that has a 7.6.
27:11
OK. Within that two weeks, he
27:14
completely recast the characters.
27:17
He redid the whole shooting schedule.
27:20
He reworked the shooting locations.
27:23
He did all of this shit two weeks before filming this movie,
27:28
which I know a lot of people probably having a light bulb
27:30
come on in their head or just something snapping like Ohh, so
27:33
does that. So that's why this movie looks
27:35
like it was made in two weeks. I think it was filmed.
27:39
I don't know that filming. Like time frame for this how
27:42
long or when they filmed it. But yeah, they rushed it to
27:46
production. I don't know why he went and did
27:48
all that though, because like if you already have everybody cast
27:52
and everything arranged, just fucking foil with it.
27:54
Dude, Can you imagine the director being fired and then
27:56
all of a sudden you lose your job too?
27:58
Not because they cancelled the movie, but because the new guy
28:00
was like. Nah, because the new guy just,
28:03
like, fired everybody. His dominance.
28:06
Yeah, that's like when we worked at.
28:10
And they hired a manager and she just brought in all her own
28:13
people and she pushed out the old people.
28:15
She. Fucking sucked.
28:16
Yeah, maybe this guy sucks too. I don't know.
28:18
He seemed OK. Everybody spoke highly of him in
28:21
the making of thing. At least that's one thing I got.
28:23
Yeah, I don't want to go out here.
28:25
See director suck if we don't know them.
28:27
Yeah, he seemed OK. He seemed kind of cool.
28:30
I mean, he's still working today.
28:31
He does shit. So.
28:35
OK. Yeah, not shit.
28:36
But like he, you know, he does shit.
28:38
He does. Yeah, Yeah.
28:39
Not shit, but shit. Yeah, exactly.
28:41
And OK. And he wanted to go more.
28:45
He wanted the gore to feel more real in this movie.
28:47
So he went fully practical with everything, which I don't know
28:50
if that was the thing that wasn't done in the previous two
28:53
movies, but I will say that the gore is pretty decent in this
28:56
and the Killers are actually pretty solid.
28:59
Yeah. I think it's fine.
29:01
I think it does a pretty good job, but it's definitely
29:03
gorrier, I would say. Yeah, it's definitely not the
29:05
gorriest thing we've ever seen, but these movies aren't
29:08
typically gory anyway. No, not really.
29:11
And yeah, that's all I have. There's not a lot of information
29:13
out there about this movie. I did deep dives.
29:15
I looked up this really weird interview from a website that
29:19
looks like it was designed in 1997, so before the movie even
29:22
came out, somebody was talking about it.
29:25
But yeah, that's all I got. So, all right, Jesse, let's talk
29:29
about. How we feel about it.
29:32
Let's go. Let's get it all out there so
29:35
you eat it off. What do you actually like about
29:38
this? I do like that the beginning
29:48
like the beginning. Some implausibility is aside.
29:52
I think is kind of a solid opening.
29:59
I think the performances are mostly good and I like the
30:02
effects. There's all the performances are
30:05
OK. And some of the set pieces are
30:07
pretty interesting. Yeah, like a mostly abandoned
30:10
ski lift. That is cool.
30:12
That was cool. Small town, always gonna be a
30:16
scary setting, yeah. Colorado.
30:19
Terrifying. Terrifying.
30:20
I've got asthma. I can't be that high above sea
30:22
level. Yeah, that's it.
30:24
I think those are, those are my positives.
30:28
All right. Well.
30:29
Yeah, I agree. I like the I like the kilts in
30:31
this. I think it's pretty cool.
30:33
I like that they if they're doing something new, you know, I
30:38
I don't have to have this tied to the original cast.
30:40
But like I think it makes more sense with that.
30:44
But like in this movie, it's become a legend on its own, even
30:48
though it was already a legend in the first movie.
30:51
Yeah, but like I like the idea of it just being the fisherman.
30:54
You don't know who he is. He's just like this random.
30:57
Like the serious man that will come get you if you have a
30:59
secret. Why did they move this so far in
31:02
months? I know, right?
31:03
Like it's supposed to be about like a fishing town in whatever
31:06
state. And then it's like, yeah, let's
31:09
put them over there with like, the mountains.
31:11
I would love it if he wasn't actually dressed as a fisherman,
31:14
because none of them knows what you.
31:16
Actually, yeah, nobody ever saw you for questions like where the
31:18
fuck is there a fisherman running around here in Colorado?
31:21
Like do you need a full on slicker?
31:25
So I like that. I kind of.
31:28
So by the way, did we mention that this movie goes
31:30
supernatural? Because this movie goes
31:32
supernatural. But I kind of like it.
31:34
I like the idea of it. Like Like if it is about the
31:37
legend, I like it actually being a legend that will like come and
31:41
like kill you. I think that that is a creepy
31:44
concept. Always everybody, you know, just
31:46
like from growing up, you always heard those stories, like this
31:48
thing that happens. But like, I think that this one
31:51
is really weird because it's. It's like if you have a secret,
31:55
but like all of these movies take place like around July 4th.
31:58
So it's almost feeling like if you have a secret and it's July
32:01
4th, this fisherman will come and get you with a hook.
32:08
Now saying it all out like that, out loud in front of everybody
32:11
made me realize how stupid it sounds, but I kind of like it.
32:15
So here's my thing. That's my bad.
32:18
That's your bad. The what?
32:20
The supernatural or the Yeah, OK.
32:24
I don't necessarily hate like the anti Santa because you know
32:30
it's summer and it's specifically going.
32:32
After not the anti Santa, Is that what you're calling the
32:34
fishermen? Yeah.
32:36
OK. But like, I just don't.
32:40
I don't know. These movies have always been
32:44
not supernatural, and I respect that they were trying to do
32:48
something. It's not easy coming into an
32:50
existing franchise. Like and hold on, let me say my
32:54
piece. OK, OK.
32:56
And like, I get that they were trying to do something
32:58
different. I respect that.
33:00
However, I like these movies being revenge stories.
33:04
I there's something very human about it.
33:06
That's what I like about these. I like the human response to,
33:09
like, knowing that you've done something terrible and just
33:12
waiting for the other shoe to drop.
33:13
And I kind of like the bad guy, like.
33:16
Having a motive of revenge, you know what I mean?
33:19
And when we got to the reveal and it actually was a ghost, I
33:25
kept waiting for how they were gonna make it.
33:27
Not a ghost. And the movie was over, and I
33:30
was like, oh, it really was just a ghost.
33:32
Did you? You forgot all about that this
33:33
time, right? Yeah, OK.
33:36
So, like, I just, I didn't. That's not what I come to this
33:41
franchise for, you know what I mean?
33:43
I I'm not inherently opposed. To a ghost legend attacking
33:49
people, it just felt very like out of left field.
33:56
So yeah, so I think. Also, I hate the I hate the
34:01
shots that they do with the like.
34:04
Yeah, the quick cuts and things like, yeah.
34:07
They don't add to the mood for me as an audience.
34:11
No, I I'm actually, I don't like it because it's kind of
34:14
disorienting. And whenever I'm watching
34:16
something I like to see like a queen cut, like see everything
34:19
play out. I don't like when things are cut
34:21
to hell to try and make it flow in a way like see.
34:24
Here's my thing. I don't mind it when it is meant
34:27
to be disorienting because the character's feeling disoriented.
34:32
Say, for example, the song movies.
34:34
Yeah, you know, we get those cuts.
34:37
What happens with this is like, it's like town fair fairs.
34:42
Like, why do I need to be disoriented about this?
34:44
You know what I mean? It's just like, I think it can
34:47
be well done. I just think it wasn't utilized
34:49
appropriately in this movie. That's true.
34:51
It's. Like, damn.
34:53
Like, OK, fairs little. Yeah, yeah, sorry.
34:56
Band practice looks like a little shack apart.
34:59
Like, OK, what's happening? I don't know.
35:02
What I. Was going to say before, though
35:04
was. Like, how do you tie that
35:07
original movie to a new set of people without it being another
35:13
thing? Like the screen remake that we
35:15
got where it's just a family member, you know what I mean?
35:20
I like the idea of it being a legend come to life.
35:23
Like you can do this. Like they start off the whole
35:26
movie talking about this supposed legend, which I can't
35:30
wait to talk about that. You know, and then that's the
35:34
reason that PJ dies. But like, which we never found
35:40
out who moved the fucking mattresses?
35:42
Yeah, that's true. We never get resolution on that
35:45
Jesus Christ. But what I'm saying is like you,
35:51
you know, this is supposedly this legend is the reason that
35:55
you know this death, this tragedy has occurred.
35:59
So somebody decides that they're gonna get revenge, using the
36:02
legend as like, OK, you know, a bit of poetic justice or
36:06
whatever. True.
36:08
That can be done. You're right, that would that
36:10
would make sense. OK, well, my bad is I think a
36:15
lot of the characters in this movie are pretty still.
36:18
I don't really think anybody stands out.
36:20
I don't have a favorite character in this movie.
36:23
Like they're all just kind of generic.
36:26
Just, I don't know, like, I think, I guess if I were to pick
36:29
one, I would just pick the Fishermen because I think all
36:33
things considered, Don Shinks does a good job playing the
36:35
Fishermen and it's like it's like an updated slicker too.
36:39
It looks a little bit different and I guess it's because it's
36:41
somebody that like, well, it's a ghost, but like somebody away
36:44
from the fish that's trying to do the fish thing properly.
36:49
See, and here's the thing. If they could have brought
36:51
Freddie Prinze junior back, we've got somebody acting like
36:54
ghost in the Fisherman's Slicker.
36:56
He's been Fred Jones now, so he can be like a good, good, good,
37:00
good ghost. Yeah, I'm gonna give Matthew a
37:03
little too. Sarah.
37:04
Michelle Gellar. She could be the Daphne again.
37:08
You. Know.
37:08
Yeah, Except she, like as a different character, died in the
37:12
first. I know what you did last summer.
37:14
If there was a picture of her, remember.
37:16
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Bring a picture for his Daphne
37:19
like Fred. Just like looks down like
37:21
Daphne. You mean the picture of her in
37:23
the parade the night she died? That for some reason Julie
37:27
decides to keep framed next to her?
37:29
Bed. Take that picture and Photoshop
37:31
the hair red. Just do that.
37:34
Nobody will be able to tell the difference.
37:36
Daphne surely was like fish queen.
37:39
You know what I mean? All right.
37:44
Ugly. Deputy Hafner.
37:50
Yeah, Deputy Hafner, he's like hitting on this girl that is in
37:54
high school, but also like just like fresh out of high school.
37:57
It's it's still just gross. I was like a fully grown man.
38:00
Every note I wrote about him ended with the word ominously.
38:05
Like he checks on her ominously, He comforts her ominously.
38:11
I you know it's. True, he welcomes children to
38:14
the. Party ominously.
38:16
He welcomes them in ominously. He's like, sure, I'm having to
38:22
get together like, whoa, shit. Like, I mean, the dude plays it
38:28
really well. Yeah, he's fine as an actor, but
38:30
like. Well, like back when.
38:31
It's so uncomfortable. When I was riding him as
38:34
Heffner, I was like, is this like intensive?
38:36
Like, and he was like, oh shit, never mind.
38:39
Well, maybe they still meant that.
38:40
Like he's like kind of close to it.
38:43
Yeah, I agree with you. That's my ugly too.
38:45
All right, absurd. Where do we start?
38:49
I've got my favorite absurd moment, which is so fucking
38:52
awesome. I love it.
38:54
There could be a lot, but I guess the one I'm gonna pick for
38:57
right now is gonna be where the fuck does Zoe live?
39:01
Does she live in that barn where her band practices?
39:03
And also there's sometimes parties, because when what's her
39:07
face comes to like? Check on her.
39:12
Check. Well, not even check on her.
39:14
Ask for comfort from her friend that she ditched months ago.
39:16
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's like, can I stay with
39:19
you? And you?
39:19
She's like, yeah, sure. There's a couch here and a
39:21
bathroom in the back, and it's like, Zoe, Do you live here?
39:23
Do you live in this barn? She's.
39:25
Going full Jason hearts you because like.
39:28
And to be clear, it's not like a barn that's been converted for
39:34
living. It's got no floor.
39:39
It's Earth. It is ground.
39:41
Jesus was born here. Yeah, Jesus may have been born
39:45
in a nicer barn. In Colorado.
39:51
How was there running water in the bath?
39:53
I have so many questions about this setup.
39:55
They do have electricity. Which is weird because there's
39:58
also gaps between the boards where you can see straight into
40:02
the barn. Yeah.
40:03
How the fuck does that work? I don't know.
40:04
Generator. I don't fucking know.
40:06
I don't know. It's weird.
40:08
OK? You're right.
40:08
That is absurd. All right.
40:10
Man, how's she paying for all of that?
40:12
Does she have parents? It doesn't seem like she has
40:14
parents. I don't think any of these
40:15
people have parents. No.
40:17
What's her face? The blonde girl.
40:18
She definitely has parents, but they're out of town.
40:21
I know. But are they?
40:23
Are they? She's just telling everybody,
40:25
Yeah, they're Amber. Your parents have been out of
40:28
town for 18 years. They'll be back soon.
40:32
They just wanted to go get cigarettes.
40:35
My absurd moment is in the opening when PJ goes up to the
40:41
top and he battles the fishermen with the skateboard.
40:44
But the best part about that whole thing is the dude is like,
40:48
yeah, one and he gets on the skateboard and rides away.
40:52
But not only that, he fucking does a trick off of the side of
40:56
the building. Like he's like it's like the
40:57
Tony Hawk special sounding like he's just like doing a trick as
41:02
he's falling to his death. That, but it it's more akin to.
41:09
What's the fucking game that I love watching them?
41:12
Do you play throughs of and Game Grumps or they're like either on
41:15
the bikes or the jet powered lawn chair?
41:18
What is that called? My God, what is that called?
41:23
I don't know. Holy shit.
41:25
Keep talking. I'm.
41:25
Gonna but yeah, I like that when they would go to like the modded
41:28
levels and like they couldn't get past, that's kind of it's
41:32
that energy like were you ever gonna make this out on the first
41:36
try? Guts and glory.
41:39
Guts and glory. Yeah, feels much more guts and
41:42
glory than Tony Hawk. Cuz then Tony Hawk.
41:44
You just goes like gnarly wipeout.
41:48
No. Yeah, 100%.
41:49
I think that's like a good combination right there.
41:51
And if you don't know what that game is, look up the Game Grumps
41:55
play through, cuz it's fucking hilarious.
41:57
Miss Jenkins. I kinda wanna watch it now.
42:00
He had the guy with the Rockets share.
42:02
Yeah. Miss Jenkins, just come in to
42:07
borrow some sugar. OK?
42:12
So yeah. He just fucking jumps to his
42:14
death. He doesn't even check to see if
42:16
the mattress is there, by the way.
42:17
He just fully trusts that he's accurate with where he's
42:20
jumping. Who moved the mattresses?
42:24
Who put a tractor there instead? That's what PJ is wanting to
42:28
know, and it's too late. All right, So, Jesse, what do
42:32
you rate this out of town? 3 1/2.
42:35
Wow, so you're almost going with the IMDb score.
42:37
Fuck this. We haven't even talked about it
42:40
and I'm already so angry. I love it.
42:44
These are the types of movies that are just fun to talk about
42:46
because they're so absurd. So I think I'm gonna go, I'm
42:51
gonna be generous because I don't really think that this
42:53
movie is that bad. Honestly, I think it's
42:57
serviceable as a straight to DVD slasher.
43:00
Maybe don't think of it as a I know what you Did Last summer
43:02
movie, but it's. So separate it from it I would,
43:05
but they make a point of trying it into the first two.
43:10
It's basically a remake, almost just retelling it as like a
43:13
myth, like a legend that comes to life.
43:15
But I'm gonna give it like a four.
43:17
I'll give it a four. I think that, yeah, at least
43:20
earns that. 3.75 of our is our starting.
43:23
At Yeah, that's low, dude. It is low I.
43:26
Don't know if we've done one that one before.
43:28
Alright. I do want everybody to know that
43:31
the DVD has one trailer on it. Yeah, and it's for a movie
43:36
called Population 436. Who is it starring?
43:39
It's the guy from Wrong Turn. I can't remember his name.
43:42
Yeah, yeah, He's got the deep voice.
43:44
It's Jeremy something. That sounds right.
43:46
He looks like a Jeremy. It's either Jeremy or he's
43:49
played a character named Jeremy. Or both, yeah.
43:53
So that the only one trailer. So be sure.
43:56
Maybe we've never heard of you're.
43:57
Getting the full DVD experience with us here guys, cuz we know
44:00
you're not gonna buy it, all right?
44:03
So we opened this thing off with some carnival fun time montages.
44:08
1st we have an empty trailer of stock footage.
44:11
OK, that's true. Then we've got fair stock
44:13
footage. That's right.
44:15
And then so we cut to fourteens on a Ferris wheel.
44:21
And they're telling the legend of the fisherman, and the
44:25
fisherman is this guy who kills teens with secrets every July
44:31
4th. Now spoiler for the next 5
44:34
minutes they're going to do a prank where they pretend the
44:37
fisherman's after them, but they're all in on it.
44:42
So who are they telling this legend for?
44:46
You know what? Holy shit, you're right.
44:49
They're not even doing it in like a public place where people
44:51
can overhear it. They're on like literally a
44:54
Ferris wheel. Isn't it Amber that's telling
44:57
it? Amber and Colby.
44:59
Yeah, like, yeah, we fucking know guys.
45:01
Like, stop telling us the story. We've all heard it like 50
45:04
goddamn times. Now we're doing the fucking
45:06
prank. Like, I get that it's for the
45:09
audience's benefit, so that way we're gooped when we learn that
45:12
they're all like in on it. But that quickly falls apart
45:18
once you think about it for a second.
45:22
I never thought about it and you're so right.
45:24
It's just what if they're just like telling it to like people
45:28
on like the like like above them or below them like so by the
45:32
way, the fishermen will come and get you if you have a secret on
45:35
July 4th. So lookout.
45:38
Watch out. Watch out for that, Fisher.
45:40
My God, I think I see him over there.
45:41
And I heard he's like, this is Colorado.
45:43
Nobody's fishing. We hike here, let's get high.
45:49
So they're wandering around the carnival and they come across
45:55
Lance, who is working at the carnival, I think.
46:01
Is he? Hard to tell.
46:02
I don't know. I.
46:03
Think he is? I think he is too and.
46:05
He. Found this was the area that
46:08
that era where hipsters were wearing clothing that could be
46:11
very easily confused for like carnival worker clothing.
46:15
Like he's got like a mechanic type shirt.
46:17
On Yeah, he does. Yeah, he's, he's got the look
46:20
for sure. He's Pj's cousin and the
46:22
sheriff's nephew. PJ is a sheriff's son.
46:25
Yeah, and PJ is more the group's friend group.
46:29
I don't think these guys are actually friends with Lance.
46:31
Yeah, like, he's just like their friend's cousin.
46:33
Yeah. But Lance is definitely in the
46:37
amber and there's kind of like a pissing contest between him and
46:42
Colby. Yeah, Colby is also a year older
46:46
than her. He's getting ready to go to his
46:48
freshman year in College in LA and she's got one more year
46:51
before she can join him. She then takes out her camera
46:55
cuz she's the group photographer because they kind of wanna make
46:59
her a Manic Pixie Dream girl. Yeah, like a what's her face?
47:04
And stay alive. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
47:07
Who goes and takes pictures of people sat at funerals?
47:09
I was also thinking of Final Destination 3, where they're
47:13
taking pictures at a carnival. Yeah, she's not a photographer,
47:16
though. She just works for the yearbook
47:18
and they make that distinction very clear and I like it.
47:21
OK, yeah, See, they knew how to do it.
47:23
But like and you didn't know that notice this, but the way
47:27
she holds her camera. I should have grabbed my camera
47:29
to give you a proper demonstration.
47:31
So imagine. This is the front of the camera.
47:33
Yeah, OK, I know this is not working for anybody listening,
47:37
but so she turn takes it, turns it on end, and then she does
47:41
like a claw at the top in a way that is offering no support to
47:44
the camera and in fact looks like she's never seen one
47:48
before. The moment she was told that her
47:51
character's main trait is that she's a photographer.
47:54
She's like mini panic attack inside from the actors like, Oh
47:58
my God, she's. Like how do I hold that camera?
48:02
I didn't think about it ever. So yeah, no, I noticed that she
48:06
does that later on in the movie too.
48:07
Yeah, no, it started right here. No.
48:09
Yeah, it's horrifying. You made it.
48:11
You brought it to my attention. So I paid attention and she
48:13
continues all. Right.
48:15
So they're all sitting there. Ha ha ha.
48:17
We're teens, we're friends. It's great.
48:19
And then all of a sudden we see this in the wet of a hook and a
48:23
fisherman's hat. And probably very expensive.
48:27
Banner gets torn as somebody runs through and chases PJ and
48:31
they're all screaming and the sheriff is like, oh shit,
48:33
somebody's going to die at the town fair.
48:36
And so they all go running and they run up the world's least
48:40
assuming parking structure. Why is this parking structure
48:44
here in the middle of a field? There are no buildings nearby.
48:47
Why is the parking structure here?
48:49
All good. You can't have a parking
48:51
structure and a tractor in the same area.
48:56
This is all good points, man. I don't know, Maybe this is
48:58
weird Colorado shit. I don't know.
49:00
You guys might be weird over there.
49:01
Well, okay, So they get to the top of a building.
49:04
Somehow PJ wound up on top of the building.
49:06
I don't know how he got there. With this skateboard, Travis.
49:09
He jumped all the way up there with the skateboard, yes, but
49:12
the fisherman is also up there. So he fights off his hook.
49:16
Do you think that Roger like like held onto PJ and they like
49:22
rode up there together so that way they wouldn't lose track of
49:25
each other I? Hope so.
49:27
I hope that they actually rode over there together.
49:28
That would be hilarious. But he fights him off with a
49:32
skateboard, fights away his hook, and then he does a sweet
49:35
trick off the side of the building because that's his
49:38
escape plan. But he.
49:40
Doesn't land on the mattresses like he was.
49:42
And the friends just assumed that it went well.
49:44
Yeah, they just like run over to the cars and get cleaned up and.
49:47
He just lies off the top of the parking instruction like great.
49:51
There's no way that could have ever gone wrong.
49:54
I still don't understand why he didn't like, you know, maybe
49:57
look down to make sure that there wasn't a fucking tractor
50:01
there instead of a mattress. That's right, the the opening to
50:04
this movie is just so fucking weird.
50:06
Like who? Moves the mattresses.
50:09
I need to know who moved them. Why did they replace them with a
50:13
tractor? You think Michael Weiss has a
50:16
Twitter account? Maybe we can ask him.
50:18
He might answer you. I don't.
50:19
Know I have so many questions. All right, so yeah, he's dead.
50:23
And the teens are just shitting their pants because they're
50:27
like, that wasn't supposed to happen or supposed to be a
50:29
match. No, they aren't sad enough about
50:31
their friend being dead. No, they're not.
50:32
They're more worried about getting caught.
50:34
Yeah, they are all sociopaths. Yeah, throwing it out there now.
50:38
And of course Amber, because she's her final girl, she wants
50:41
to tell. But everybody else is like,
50:43
don't you tell, We'll cut you. It's so crazy.
50:45
It's almost like shot for shot, what the original was.
50:49
You got the blonde, overly aggressive dude and then you've
50:52
got the good girl like Amber instead of Jennifer.
50:56
Love you. It's character.
50:58
It's weird. OK, July 1st.
51:01
One year later, by the way, we're gonna be getting a
51:03
countdown. To July 4th of this.
51:06
Yep. So that was June.
51:10
Damn. No.
51:10
This is July 1st, One year later.
51:12
Okay. Never mind, you're right.
51:16
Okay. So Amber is at Pj's grave in the
51:19
middle of the field. Around No other grapes.
51:22
He's not in the cemetery, he's in a field.
51:24
They buried him right there where the parking garage was
51:26
and. They tore down the parking.
51:27
Garage. And they're like, you know what?
51:28
Terrace it and that's. Silly.
51:30
You're right. We don't need this out here.
51:33
The entire town population could fit their vehicles inside of
51:36
that parking garage. Why do we have this?
51:38
It's become a memorial. She takes some really bad
51:42
photography and then she goes to a barn party.
51:47
Lance flirts with her at the party and then her friends come
51:51
over and they're like, come look at this hot guy and she's like,
51:55
don't worry, I'll be with Colby in LA so you won't have to hold
51:58
my hand anymore. And they're like, um, bitch,
52:01
Colby's right over there. By the way, we.
52:05
This girl that she's talking to, she, she is.
52:09
So we'll go at the poster if you did actually watch this movie,
52:12
because she is on, we think. That this?
52:13
No, I have a picture. I have a picture.
52:15
Try to remind me to post it. OK, we have a picture of the
52:20
poster. Like the the menu screen and you
52:24
know who's not on there? Kobe.
52:26
You know who is on there? Unnamed friend #2.
52:30
Yeah, I don't think she gets a name.
52:32
Yeah, it's not even the one that, like, holds the hands.
52:35
It's the hand holder's friend. Yeah, the friend of a friend.
52:38
Yeah, she's on the poster. Somehow they, like, decided she
52:42
was more important to the story. They were like, yeah, even we
52:45
don't like Colby. So yeah, she sees that Colby's
52:49
actually at the party too, and she goes over there to confront
52:52
him. Yeah, apparently he was supposed
52:54
to have an internship all summer and then she was going to join
52:57
him in LA in the fall. And then he was like, well, it
52:59
fell through and I'm gonna be working at the pool again.
53:02
Besides, things really haven't been the same between us since
53:05
last year. Bye.
53:07
Yeah. God, he he fucking sucks.
53:10
Like, but you kinda have to wonder, like, if this is how
53:14
he's reacting to her now. Like, did he actually maybe
53:18
break up with her at some point in the school year and she just
53:20
didn't take the hint? It's possible.
53:23
I'm not gonna say no. I mean, and I'm not blaming her
53:26
for it, She's a high schooler. She's dumb young in.
53:28
Love. Well, we've seen how stupid
53:30
these people. Are.
53:32
And this already, so yeah, I can see that when something by her.
53:35
But you know what happens when you break up?
53:38
You go Dr. Sadly, and then you park by a fence and sit on the
53:44
hood of your Jeep. That's definitely going to be,
53:46
like, way too hot to sit on after you've been driving around
53:49
for hours. Yeah, and then the town deputy
53:52
comes up and comforts you ominously.
53:55
Honestly, yes, we get Mr. Hefner.
53:58
Hafner, He's like, so. He is so much older than her and
54:03
she is still in high school at this point and he is like
54:07
hitting on her. Yeah, And it's like and he
54:12
here's the scary thing about him is that like he's hitting on her
54:15
in a way that like if you were to repeat word for word what he
54:19
said like. As a normal human, you'd be
54:22
like, no, that's just comforting a person.
54:24
Or that's just being a police officer, asking why she's out
54:27
here alone. But it's like his delivery.
54:30
And this is what predators do. They say things that on paper
54:35
are socially acceptable, but in a way that make their victims
54:40
incredibly uncomfortable. And I can't tell you how many
54:42
times in my life I've been in a position where I've been like,
54:45
oh, that person made me super uncomfortable.
54:47
Why? What do you say?
54:48
Well, he said this. Well, that's not that in a.
54:51
I'm like, no, it's the way, it's the implication.
54:54
Yes, understand entirely what you're talking.
54:57
About yeah. And yes, he does come across as
55:00
a creep in this movie too, he is saying.
55:03
This okay. So then she goes home.
55:05
She looks at her photo board sadly.
55:08
And reads the note from her parents, sadly.
55:10
Yeah, the note that was like framed in a way.
55:11
It's folded like all the others have been in all the other
55:13
movies. So you think it's gonna be that?
55:15
I know what? You do.
55:16
Also ominous. Yeah, they are.
55:17
Holy. Shit, they.
55:19
Just leave her a note. But it's like really nice.
55:20
And then it just says no party :).
55:24
What if she hadn't seen that note there?
55:26
I could never leave you a note somewhere and expect you to see
55:30
it. I don't know.
55:33
I like you. Know I'm bad about it, but maybe
55:36
she's good. No.
55:37
So I don't know. She could be a good note person.
55:40
Yeah. Anyway, they're out of town, so
55:42
she goes to bed, and then she's woken up by a ruckus in the
55:46
kitchen at what looks like the middle of the night.
55:49
Yeah, because it's dark. And here is why I don't think I
55:53
like her family, because they've got a radio clock downstairs in
55:56
the kitchen and it's going off and it says that it's like 2:30
56:01
PM. Does it really?
56:02
Yes. That's fucked up.
56:04
Yeah, yeah, set your clocks correctly people.
56:08
How do you function if you don't know what time it is in your
56:10
kitchen? I see my note, I just have radio
56:14
jump scare and then I was singing to myself.
56:16
God We Are is radio jump scare. Yeah, so the phone rings and she
56:25
goes to check it and she sees that she has 50 messages on her
56:29
phone. So she looks at them and all 50
56:32
messages say, I know what you did last.
56:34
Night. You know what's really scary
56:35
about this? What is that?
56:37
It's 2006, and it probably cost you like $0.50 per each of those
56:41
messages. Yeah, she had to pay $25 to be
56:44
harassed by a ghost. Damn, that's sadistic.
56:50
So Amber goes. Wait question, Yeah.
56:53
How did the Ghost send this text message?
56:55
Is it like the Ghost and unfriended that?
56:58
Like it's in the computer just making the message appear?
57:02
Where did we burn? On that, didn't we talk about
57:05
like if it like what kind of ghost that was in that episode?
57:08
Yeah, I think we decided that it was in the computer.
57:10
Yeah, I think so. Yeah, like cuz I can't picture
57:14
that dude if he hadn't died. Would have been very annoyed by
57:19
cell phones, so I can't picture him in the afterlife deciding to
57:22
learn how to use a cell phone. I feel like it's got to be like
57:25
a Danny Phantom, like he goes into it and whatever.
57:29
Think about the ring, though, you know what I mean?
57:32
Like, she was back in the time before TVs and telephones
57:35
existed. Yeah, but she learned how to use
57:37
that technology. Yeah, but she wasn't like a
57:39
grumpy old man. She was a grumpy little girl.
57:43
If the ring were made nowadays, tomorrow would be a tik toker.
57:46
Let's be real. No, you know it.
57:51
You're right. OK, so she goes over to visit
57:56
Zoe. Again, she is not visiting her.
57:59
She is begging her for help. OK, whatever.
58:02
So she's begging her for help because she's freaking out and
58:04
my mom and dad are gone. Yeah.
58:07
And so I was like, hey, remember how we used to be friends?
58:09
And we aren't anymore. But she still lets her say
58:12
because she's the bigger person. Yes, July 2nd, Zoe and Amber
58:17
decided they're gonna go visit Roger at the ski lift repair
58:20
place, which is just also where the ski lifts are.
58:23
Yeah, Roger, by the way, is the guy that was the fisherman
58:26
during the prank. He is very unamused with seeing
58:29
them. He's also angry and then he sees
58:34
the text messages, but he's like, well, I haven't spoken to
58:37
Colby. Yeah, I do want to go to the
58:40
cops though, because my life's kind of messed up anyway and
58:43
they're like, well, let us talk to Colby 1st and see.
58:46
See what we can come up with. So Amber tries to ease the
58:51
tension with Zoe by, like joking about her Flyers and like, hey,
58:58
remember how you said you sent me a bunch of Flyers before and
59:01
I ignored them? Do you know, maybe send me one
59:03
more, maybe one more. Ands always like those cost
59:08
money to print. I don't know if you noticed, but
59:10
I'm unemployed. Yeah, yeah, I live in a barn.
59:14
That may or may not have actual energy.
59:17
We don't know. We don't know.
59:21
So yeah, they have a sheriff jump scare cuz.
59:25
That these people in Colorado have nothing better to do than
59:28
check on teenagers in their cars.
59:30
He is like, the least justified red herring in this movie
59:34
because, like, there's nothing like, it's all framed in a way
59:37
that it's looking ominous and suspicious.
59:39
But really, like, everything they is doing is like, he's got
59:43
clear motives. Yeah, he's just checking on
59:45
them. They're like pulled over on the
59:46
side of the road, like, oh shit, car problems.
59:48
Yeah, and I mean, yeah, he's a mad, sad dad, but.
59:52
Is justified, Yeah. I don't think we've ever been
59:55
upset at the mad, sad dads in this.
59:57
No, they're always justified. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:01
So Zoe confronts Colby as he is lifeguarding.
1:00:06
They fight a little bit and when he goes back to his top chair,
1:00:09
somebody has written in the water next to his chair.
1:00:13
I know. And like, fades from the
1:00:16
pavement, which I think is kind of cool it.
1:00:18
Was really cool. I like that.
1:00:22
OK, so Amber. Amber is mountain biking miles
1:00:28
away from civilization. You know, the day after she
1:00:31
begged to stay at her friend's barnhouse because she was scared
1:00:34
of being alone. So she's out there all alone.
1:00:39
Her tire gets shredded, she's not concerned about how it got
1:00:42
shredded, and instead she walks to the ski resort.
1:00:46
Looking for somebody to help her.
1:00:47
And this man appears and he's like, I'll give you a lift since
1:00:49
the storm's coming and you may think that he's gonna give her a
1:00:52
ride back to town in his truck. I'm assuming he has a pickup
1:00:55
truck because it's Colorado. Yeah, but no.
1:00:57
Like, he actually puts her in a ski lift.
1:00:59
Yep. Like actual left, he meant it
1:01:01
literally. I'm calling bullshit on these
1:01:03
ski lifts, like these are full on gondolas.
1:01:06
They're enclosed. This is like bougie ski resort
1:01:11
ski lifts. It's not, and it's not that kind
1:01:14
of town. This is like your family can't
1:01:18
afford to go on a ski vacation, but they can't afford like
1:01:21
Aspen, you know? So you're saying?
1:01:23
That this ski lift is too good for this town.
1:01:26
Yeah, Okay, I didn't realize you could be too good for a ski.
1:01:29
Lift and also all the other ski lifts are uncovered like the
1:01:33
ones that we've seen them working on.
1:01:35
Like, why do we suddenly have this covered gondola?
1:01:37
Oh, it's because we need to have the fisherman smash the window
1:01:41
and spook amber. I do like this.
1:01:44
What all I could think of was like cool, now that nice guy
1:01:47
that gave her a lift down is going to have to repair that
1:01:52
window. Yeah, he's fucked like he's
1:01:54
going to get blamed for. It and he's going to be like
1:01:56
pissed cuz he's like I gave her a bride.
1:01:58
I was just trying to do the nice thing.
1:02:00
Wait on the storm. He might get fired.
1:02:02
He might. Playing on this one.
1:02:05
So yeah, she gets spooked because yeah, he attacks the ski
1:02:08
lift thing. Okay.
1:02:11
So. Colby's always Amber meet to
1:02:16
talk about all this. Wait, Colby doesn't believe
1:02:19
what's going on? And then they bring up the fact
1:02:22
that Roger's not answering his call.
1:02:24
Yeah, and this is where we get the Roger Sad montage.
1:02:27
Yeah, and this says Roger's whacked.
1:02:29
And then he's just like it cuts him and he's just like drinking
1:02:32
and popping pills. Snorting pills.
1:02:34
Snorting pills. Yeah, and you get a glimpse of
1:02:37
his suicide note, too. Yeah, it's actually a really
1:02:40
rough scene. This is one of those where the
1:02:43
disorienting cut shots works, yeah.
1:02:45
By the way, we completely skipped earlier when they met in
1:02:48
the woods and they burned the slicker and they threw the hook
1:02:52
in the lake. I'm.
1:02:52
Gonna be honest, I did not put that in my notes at all.
1:02:54
Okay. Well, it happened that was back
1:02:56
after it originally happened on that night and they just threw
1:03:00
the hook in the lake and they're like, OK, we won't speak of this
1:03:02
again. Well, right here it's revealed
1:03:03
that Roger. Quinton got that hook?
1:03:06
Yeah, he hasn't now. Yeah, and he is going to use it
1:03:13
to harm himself, but instead he gets killed by the fisherman.
1:03:19
Yeah, he battles him with a bus saw.
1:03:21
Like that's fucking awesome that they have a bus saw file.
1:03:25
It's great. But yeah, he loses, he gets his
1:03:28
throat. So it's a good kill.
1:03:29
Zoe, Amber and Colby. Find the body when they go to
1:03:33
talk to him, and then the cops arrive and Dippy Hafner
1:03:38
ominously fills them in on it's like.
1:03:41
God, yeah. He'd been failing classes,
1:03:43
fighting with people. He was on antidepressants
1:03:47
anyway, yeah. Like, yeah, Anyway, Amber.
1:03:50
Did you need to tell him all of that?
1:03:52
Was that? Like their knowledge to have.
1:03:55
Yeah, I mean, I don't think that that was really cool because he,
1:03:58
like, told him that in confidence.
1:04:00
Yeah, like well, he wanted Amber to think he was cool.
1:04:03
Yeah, I guess so. Yeah.
1:04:05
He's like, I got all the gossip, by the way.
1:04:06
Amber, if you got anything you want to tell me, give me a call
1:04:09
or I'll call you. It's really awkward.
1:04:12
Yeah, I wrote ominously. Comforts Amber again?
1:04:14
Yeah, OK, so they assume that Roger was behind it all, but
1:04:20
then they find like. A trail of shredded photos in
1:04:27
Amber's house. Yeah, yeah.
1:04:29
And then like, of course, another note of like, I still
1:04:31
know or whatever. It's like all cut out and
1:04:33
spelling soon from the. Pictures.
1:04:36
So July 3rd, yeah, the trio checks up on Lance, accuse him
1:04:40
of being behind it. And he was like, well, you guys
1:04:44
really gonna be worrying about my uncle?
1:04:45
Because he's been going around asking about some secret and
1:04:48
they're all like, see? And here's the thing too, like.
1:04:54
I don't If it's a ghost, why is the sheriff asking about a
1:05:00
secret? I don't know.
1:05:02
Maybe you just like gossip, you know?
1:05:05
What's the details? Like he's just secret.
1:05:07
He's just trying to treat Lance like a son now.
1:05:10
Yeah. And I guess.
1:05:12
If you. Yeah, So what you eat or not
1:05:15
there about me? So yeah, the.
1:05:20
Then Colby, it's like, oh, OK, well, clearly the sheriff's
1:05:22
behind it all. And he leaves.
1:05:25
They sit in the diner, talk about this loudly.
1:05:27
You know what this conversation would have been good for?
1:05:31
Loudly reciting an urban legend. That everybody.
1:05:34
In your group. Was in on, but instead they're
1:05:38
having a super secret conversation within 2 feet of
1:05:43
other tables. Including the sheriff.
1:05:45
Including the sheriff and then. Fucking Colby decides he's gonna
1:05:51
leave a note on the sheriff's car.
1:05:53
I didn't even write down what it said, but it's some bullshit of
1:05:56
like. OK I see I got half of it, but
1:05:59
then I started freestyling so I. There was no pausing this movie.
1:06:05
There was not. We just we powered through.
1:06:07
It we know what you're doing this summer, so back off it so
1:06:13
nobody else knows. I'm not at all confident and
1:06:18
that's how it actually. So it is something like we know
1:06:22
what you're doing this summer. That part's correct.
1:06:24
I threw in my own flair there. You improv.
1:06:27
Yeah, so now we get to see Zoe. She's having dreams of the
1:06:32
fishermen, yeah? And she wakes up and sees that
1:06:35
all of her instruments have been fucked.
1:06:37
Up. No, no.
1:06:37
First she has a dream. That she's woken up by speaker
1:06:41
feedback, and when she wakes up, the fisherman's there, but it's
1:06:45
Pj's face. But she wakes up and it was just
1:06:47
a dream, except the fisherman's standing right over her.
1:06:49
But then she wakes up again and all of her shit's fucked, yeah.
1:06:53
Maybe she did all of that and like all of that dreaming.
1:06:58
Yeah, so Lance confronts Amber. He's like, I know what you did
1:07:02
last summer and she's like, oh shit, it is you.
1:07:03
And he goes now, like Roger told or PJ told me what you guys were
1:07:07
planning beforehand. And now somebody has fucked up
1:07:10
my sweet new Yamaha that I paid $6000 for.
1:07:15
Fucked up her mountain back, dude.
1:07:17
Yeah, so we get to see Colby. Apparently he's just like a
1:07:21
swimmer. I guess so he's.
1:07:22
This is such a trope and horror. Movie It is like, really, Do you
1:07:25
want? To create tension, let's have
1:07:26
somebody swimming laps. For no apparent reason, although
1:07:30
he's a lifeguard, so I guess it makes some sense.
1:07:32
Yeah, that's true, actually. So he's out there swimming and
1:07:34
then all of a sudden the fisherman just comes out of
1:07:37
nowhere with the hook and gets his Achilles.
1:07:39
Yeah, it's pretty fucking gnarly.
1:07:42
Yeah, it's not cool. And he bleeds a lot in the pool,
1:07:45
so at least he knows he won't have to worry about work
1:07:47
tomorrow cuz they're gonna have to plea in that shit.
1:07:49
Don't even like, give the movie props, right?
1:07:52
The effects are pretty good. No, I do think the effects are
1:07:55
really good, Yeah. So they all converge in Zoe's
1:07:58
garage, house, barn, and they decide that they're going to
1:08:03
approach Hafner and they go to Hafner's house and oh, he's
1:08:07
having a party. Ominously.
1:08:08
Ominously, it is. Honest.
1:08:11
Yeah. It's like he he's like it's a
1:08:13
party. Full of cops.
1:08:14
No shit is ominous. Yeah, well, they're like, well,
1:08:17
you said if we ever wanted to talk, we could come over here
1:08:20
and talk and here we are. He's like, yeah, having to get
1:08:22
together, but come on back. And then the sheriff pops up.
1:08:26
And Hafner is like. In full uniform, by the way.
1:08:29
Yeah, everybody is dressed casually, but he's still got his
1:08:32
badge and his cop uniform. On Mmhmm.
1:08:35
Yeah, he's like these kids here were coming to talk to me.
1:08:42
And then we have a weird jump to the next scene.
1:08:45
Yeah, it just stops. They don't have a conversation.
1:08:47
It's such an intense jump that it feels like we're meant to
1:08:51
think something bad happens. I think our DVD did something
1:08:55
well. Sometimes it does that whenever
1:08:57
you're like, you go into the next scene.
1:08:58
I think it just had a. I had to conquer myth.
1:09:01
I can't. What just happened?
1:09:02
I was like, whoa, let's go, let's.
1:09:04
Keep going. Yeah, they come up with like a
1:09:07
bullshit thing to the sheriff and they go, we're worried that
1:09:10
there will be an attack on the anniversary of PJ South.
1:09:13
Bay. That's a good cover.
1:09:16
Yeah, a little bit tackless, because that's also the
1:09:18
anniversary of his son's death, and he's probably not handling
1:09:21
it well. That's true.
1:09:22
Yeah. All right.
1:09:24
No, it's July 4th. Colby has the hook.
1:09:28
And Zoe has a big show that she's gonna perform at.
1:09:31
Yeah, so there's like. A The whole thing was that they
1:09:33
were all gonna leave town together.
1:09:35
Yeah. They're like, if we stick
1:09:36
together, we'll be fine. And then they go to pick up Zoe
1:09:39
and she's like, well, there's gonna be agents at the talent
1:09:42
show tonight and they've got, like, connections in LA.
1:09:45
So it's like, Ohh OK And she's like, I'll definitely be safe on
1:09:49
stage. I believe Helen would like to
1:09:54
speak about that. You know, I was really hoping
1:09:56
we'd get a moment like that in this movie.
1:09:58
I thought it was building up to that, but it just doesn't do it.
1:10:02
Especially like, say they took her like even harder rock made
1:10:05
her metal, and then like, they think like the blood is just
1:10:08
part of the show's effects. Oh yeah.
1:10:10
That would be awesome. Yeah.
1:10:12
Holy shit. Yeah, Fuck yeah.
1:10:13
Metal. Yeah.
1:10:16
So they all decide that they'll leave right after her show and
1:10:19
they'll all be there with her together.
1:10:20
You know, for the entire town, being here at this talent show,
1:10:25
there sure are a lot of quiet places for people to be allowed.
1:10:30
Well, like, I love like it shows you this dude playing a song
1:10:34
whenever it first cuts to that. How hungover he's gonna be
1:10:37
tomorrow. Yeah, but the way that they have
1:10:39
the lighting done, it's so well done to like, make it look like
1:10:42
there's a lot of people there, but really, I only saw four
1:10:44
people there. Like, this is not a big
1:10:46
sentence, I don't think. So Colby is very, very drunk.
1:10:52
And he just continues drinking. At one point he goes behind the
1:10:55
bar. I guess he's got a friend who
1:10:57
works there and told him where he could find, like, a bottle
1:11:00
that he could just drink from. So that's what he does.
1:11:02
Well, Zoe and the Hooks perform. What a name.
1:11:06
Holy shit, that's so fucking. Nice.
1:11:09
You realize that they probably didn't come up with a name for
1:11:11
the band until that scene, and they're like, ohh shit, we have
1:11:14
to introduce the band, the hooks.
1:11:19
So um. Amber is showing Lance the
1:11:22
inspiration for the prank and she's like talking about the 1st
1:11:25
2 movies, so she's like got news clippings of Jennifer with you,
1:11:29
it's character. Like whole scrapbook together.
1:11:31
And I don't mean that. Like, it's a bunch of like, it's
1:11:34
a literal scrapbook with, like, stickers and shit.
1:11:37
Like it's an actual fucking scrapbook of people's real
1:11:40
tragic deaths. Yeah, it's it's kind of weird
1:11:43
again. Reminds me of a final
1:11:44
destination. And final destination they
1:11:48
wouldn't have like, made it into like a cute little scrapbook.
1:11:51
They would be like it would be more like the Pepe Sylvia
1:11:54
Bulletin board. I think it would be cool though,
1:11:56
if it was somebody that was obsessed with death.
1:11:59
You know, they just like scrapbook it.
1:12:01
OK, so after the shows I was backstage.
1:12:05
It went really well. Yeah.
1:12:07
She got an agent's card. It's super exciting.
1:12:11
And you think that they're going to be OK because Zoe and Lance
1:12:14
and Amber all together, Fuck Colby, we don't care about him.
1:12:17
So they're like, all right, time to get out of here.
1:12:21
We're definitely going to make it out alive.
1:12:23
And then as they go to the door, oh man, the fisherman appears.
1:12:26
So they go running. And the world's largest fucking
1:12:28
locker room. Yeah, it's.
1:12:30
NFL teams don't get locker rooms this large, but they're like
1:12:34
running around. They get split up.
1:12:37
Cuz again scooby-doo elements going on here.
1:12:39
And of course of course Zoe dies.
1:12:43
Cuz she just had her moment. She achieved her dream.
1:12:46
Yep. She peaked.
1:12:49
She peaked. She peaked right after high
1:12:52
school. Yeah, so she's gutted and thrown
1:12:57
over a staircase. So.
1:13:00
That's that's what happens to her.
1:13:02
Lance and Amber find her. Amber hugs her and cries.
1:13:06
So that way her nice white top becomes very bloody and
1:13:08
suspicious and they hide as the sheriff appears because he finds
1:13:13
the body and he calls it in. So that way we know that he's
1:13:16
legit and he hears Lance and Amber and he like, goes to
1:13:19
approach them and they're like, no, you don't understand.
1:13:21
There's a killer and then as soon as they say that he's
1:13:24
killed also, yes, OK. So they try to call Colby to
1:13:29
warn him about what's going on, and he runs to the kitchen.
1:13:32
I'm using the term run very generously.
1:13:34
Yeah, he's like limping. Yeah.
1:13:35
Yeah, Not not doing super. Yeah, he's doing.
1:13:37
I mean, he's doing pretty good considering.
1:13:39
Yeah, all things considered, Yeah, being very drunk and like,
1:13:43
not at full utility of one of your feet.
1:13:46
Yeah, very true. Yeah, so he runs to the kitchen
1:13:49
and he grabs a knife and he stabs the fisherman and it does
1:13:52
nothing. No.
1:13:54
And he's killed, so now we can stop talking about Colby.
1:13:57
Well, I like his death though. He hides behind one of the
1:14:00
shelves and then he peeks out the window of one of the doors
1:14:04
and the guy just hooks through the door and hooks his face.
1:14:07
It's really well done. I like it.
1:14:09
So Lance and Amber run outside, Deputy Hafner finds them and
1:14:13
he's like, well, Roger told me what happened last week.
1:14:16
I was protecting the secret for you, Amber and I was doing it.
1:14:19
Ominously. Hey, he sounds like the fucking.
1:14:22
Killer here. Well, I mean, we think he is
1:14:25
because he's like getting the car.
1:14:26
I'll take you somewhere safe and Zoe's body is in there, he goes.
1:14:28
I legitimately don't know how that got in there.
1:14:31
And as he's saying that, the fisherman appears and Hafner
1:14:35
shoots him a couple of times with a shotgun.
1:14:39
Yeah, he's taking shotgun blasts.
1:14:41
It's insane. It's not doing anything.
1:14:43
He Dick stabs Hafner. And he gets.
1:14:47
Shoved into a forklift? Yeah.
1:14:49
Sorry, Mom. Brutal.
1:14:51
Oh, that ties back into Saw three, because we start off with
1:14:54
slow ass motherfucking Jeff on the.
1:14:56
On the. Forklift.
1:14:58
Yeah, so Lance and Amber steal the deputy's truck, because
1:15:01
who's gonna rest him now? And she realizes that when she
1:15:07
hits the fisherman with the hook that he's a zombie because she
1:15:12
knocks off his hat and he bleeds black.
1:15:15
And he only. Takes damage from.
1:15:18
The hood From the hood, that's. The only thing that can hurt
1:15:19
him. So she's like, that must be the
1:15:22
guy from 10 years ago. It's the only thing that makes
1:15:25
sense. Yes, I really kept waiting for
1:15:29
it to be like, I'm not even joking when I'm comparing it to
1:15:33
scooby-doo. I was like, how are they gonna
1:15:35
explain this one? Yeah, well, it's like the first
1:15:38
time that we go to Monster Island, and it's actually
1:15:40
monsters and not bad guys in masks.
1:15:42
And it was like, well, this isn't what scooby-doo is
1:15:44
supposed to be like. I like his look though.
1:15:47
Yeah, I think he looks pretty good.
1:15:48
So we get like the face reveal of him and yeah, you find out
1:15:51
he's just a fucking ghost. Yeah, so they set a trap in shop
1:15:58
and they end up fighting him and like the fisherman starts
1:16:01
revealing that he can disappear and reappear and disappear and
1:16:04
reappear. So he's got like some unfair
1:16:06
tricks. Yeah, so Lance and Amber run off
1:16:11
and Lance gets attacked while Amber is trying to get.
1:16:15
Some piece of farm machinery to work.
1:16:17
I don't know what it is. It's a shredder.
1:16:19
Bulldozer thing, I don't know. I wrote backhoe, but then they
1:16:23
end up pushing the fisherman into it and it like shreds him
1:16:26
up. So I think maybe it's like a
1:16:28
chipper wood chipper. Of sorts.
1:16:31
It chips things. It chips him.
1:16:33
Yeah, yeah, so, so much for the hook being the only thing that
1:16:37
can damage. It's amazing.
1:16:40
The same material, 5 minutes. Yeah, holy shit.
1:16:43
You're right. You're so right.
1:16:45
Well, it doesn't kill him. He's not dead.
1:16:49
It's just a lot more pissed off now.
1:16:51
It just sets him back. It's a set back.
1:16:53
Yeah, so there we cut to them in an ambulance and they're being
1:16:56
questioned. And she was like, it's just some
1:16:58
guy, but he won't be any trouble now.
1:17:01
And the cops are like, sounds legit.
1:17:03
All right, bye. What the fuck happened to
1:17:08
Hafner? We didn't.
1:17:11
We totally didn't kill him. We did.
1:17:13
I know that you can't find any traces of a body of the guy.
1:17:16
Who the sheriff killed them but? You just have to yeah, like.
1:17:19
Yeah, definitely was that hook that has our fingerprints you
1:17:21
have. No, that's nine hours.
1:17:22
We use that for protection. That's self-defense, yeah.
1:17:24
Come on, man. It was the only thing that could
1:17:27
hurt him. Do you understand?
1:17:28
Red. Black.
1:17:30
Except, we realized. Killed a bunch of teenagers 10
1:17:32
years ago, and then they killed him.
1:17:34
Except they didn't really kill him.
1:17:35
He came back and then they actually killed.
1:17:37
Him. Have you heard the myth?
1:17:39
Where are you on the Ferris wheel?
1:17:42
So you already know. Okay.
1:17:43
Let's start. From the beginning, Okay.
1:17:46
So you're later. Yes, another year.
1:17:48
Amber is in Nevada with the best sell reception in the world.
1:17:51
This is like the opposite of every horror movie trope.
1:17:54
In the desert. The desert.
1:17:56
She's on her way to LA. Yeah, cuz now Lance is living
1:18:00
there cuz Lance's replacement Kobe.
1:18:02
And neither of them is ever gonna address this in therapy.
1:18:04
It's so weird, yeah. And she she she's like, man,
1:18:10
what happens to me that I go out in these deserted areas and my
1:18:14
tires are just shredded. What a life.
1:18:18
And then Lance is like, do you have a spare?
1:18:20
And she goes, yeah, I drive a fucking Jeep.
1:18:22
These things are made of tires. It's true.
1:18:26
And she gets out to go replace it, but she, like, walks around.
1:18:30
One thing that this movie was missing was a what are you
1:18:33
waiting for? Moment.
1:18:34
And I thought that this is where we were gonna get it, because
1:18:37
the camera's, like, building up to it.
1:18:39
It's just panning around here. But then, like, it gets too.
1:18:42
It would have been funny for her to like she's like looking at
1:18:45
the tire and trying to pump herself up to change it.
1:18:47
And she's like, come on, what are you waiting for?
1:18:49
What are you waiting for? Yeah.
1:18:52
That would be awesome if they did that.
1:18:55
But now the fisherman's there just.
1:18:56
Behind her and he gets her. So he survived it.
1:19:00
He did OK And that's the movie folks, this.
1:19:05
Movie makes less sense when you talk about.
1:19:07
It. You're right, man.
1:19:08
There's just like so many fucking weird things about it.
1:19:11
There's so many plot holes. Who?
1:19:13
Knows the magic to this, like. Did the fisherman do that like?
1:19:21
No. Well, no, it wasn't a secret
1:19:23
yet. What if PJ had a secret?
1:19:27
PJ had a secret. There could be a prequel to
1:19:31
this, then. Oh shit, I just.
1:19:34
Wanna know what happened? I don't know.
1:19:36
We'll never know. That's part of the mystery.
1:19:39
Do you change your score? I'm.
1:19:41
I'm gonna 4.5 baby, 4.5. I think that.
1:19:46
Yeah, it's stupid. Yeah.
1:19:48
It doesn't make sense. Yeah, it's generic as hell.
1:19:51
But God damn, it's got some good kills, and it's a hell of a lot
1:19:54
of fun to talk about. I'm not changing it.
1:19:57
It's still 3.5. Look, this is fun to talk about.
1:20:00
It's a beaten to watch. For me personally, Oh yeah, it's
1:20:03
I I can see the people that this would appeal to, like I can see
1:20:11
where people would get enjoyment out of it.
1:20:12
And I'm not knocking the people that like it, and I'm not
1:20:14
knocking the people that were involved in it, even though it's
1:20:17
probably sounded like I have been for the past hour and a
1:20:20
half. It just it like it doesn't do it
1:20:24
for me because I I think if they had leaned into it being campy a
1:20:31
little bit more I wish they'd it would be great.
1:20:34
Yeah. Yeah.
1:20:34
Like it would be really really fantastically hilarious.
1:20:38
I agree. But like it it's not even like
1:20:42
can't playing it straight. It's just like it's taking
1:20:44
itself seriously. Yeah.
1:20:46
So I just, I I just, I don't, I don't like it.
1:20:49
Yeah, I I agree with you. I wish it would.
1:20:51
Like, go camp. Like either unintentional camp
1:20:54
or like full on lean into the absurdity of a camp.
1:20:57
I think that would be the one I would want.
1:20:59
Yeah. All right, well, what did Talia
1:21:03
think of it? Talia was just like, she was
1:21:06
restless throughout this whole movie.
1:21:08
Yeah, I like, I think she sensed our stress of just like wanting
1:21:11
to push through and get done. Like she was just like play
1:21:15
games with me instead. Yeah, she really wanted to play
1:21:18
a lot of games last night. So I think Talia gives this.
1:21:23
She's gonna give this a three. That sounds right to me.
1:21:26
I was thinking the same thing. Yeah, she was like 1-2, three.
1:21:28
That's how many of these movies there are.
1:21:30
And this is a movie. Yep.
1:21:32
So makes sense. Zoe didn't watch a minute of
1:21:34
this. Which is weird.
1:21:37
There hasn't been a movie she's hated this much since.
1:21:41
What was the movie that she hated?
1:21:42
She came running in right after it was done.
1:21:44
I can't remember. It wasn't that long ago, anyway.
1:21:50
Okay, who did you relate to? The like friend that's kind of
1:22:02
sick of holding her friend's hand.
1:22:04
Like. A shitty relationship, that.
1:22:07
She she's like hanging on to you for now.
1:22:09
Like, not that I don't support my friends in that, but like,
1:22:12
it's all like, OK, cool. Look, he's over there.
1:22:15
Do you see him being a douche bag?
1:22:17
Can we can we just, yeah, get done with this?
1:22:20
But I relate to that. OK, I relate to PJ because
1:22:27
whenever I was a kid, I was a teenager.
1:22:29
I skateboarded and I. Hurt myself badly skateboarding
1:22:34
a couple of times. In fact, I actually did that as
1:22:36
like a 20 some year old too, like a few years ago.
1:22:39
I really, really hurt my wrist that one time.
1:22:42
He still talks about it to this day.
1:22:44
It fucked. Anytime his wrist kind of hurts,
1:22:47
he's like, it's that time that I was skateboarding with our buddy
1:22:50
a few years ago and I'm like, it's probably not.
1:22:52
You're like, no, it definitely is.
1:22:54
So PJ was just playing with fire there.
1:22:56
He was skateboarding on top of a building.
1:22:58
He's gonna really. One day it's your wrist, Next
1:23:00
day it's your guts. Then the day after that, it
1:23:03
spikes. Do you have a dream sequel for
1:23:09
this? OK, OK, this is not gonna land
1:23:13
with you at all. And I don't know how many of our
1:23:16
listeners will land with it. So you know the show I watch,
1:23:18
Cruel Summer. Yeah, it's a really terrible
1:23:21
show, but I can't not watch it. But I talked about this on Girls
1:23:26
Like This a couple of sets ago. So the whole premise of the
1:23:31
show, like the first season, it was like 3 separate summers.
1:23:35
So like you get snippets from each and you have to put the
1:23:37
pieces together for what happened.
1:23:39
OK, so like you see the before, the during and the after and you
1:23:42
have to go along with it. Season 2, completely different
1:23:47
set of characters, completely different setting.
1:23:49
It's fine. Except it's summer 1999, winter
1:23:55
1999 and summer 2000. What Okay?
1:23:59
So they completely ignore the summer part of Cruel Summer. 1/3
1:24:05
of the show is dedicated to winter.
1:24:07
That's hilarious. And I want the next I know what
1:24:11
you did last summer. To take place in the winter.
1:24:14
In the winter. I want it to take place in the
1:24:16
winter. You know, honestly, I.
1:24:19
Just go full absurd. You know what I mean?
1:24:21
I. Agree.
1:24:22
I'm a big fan of taking seasons like horror movies and putting
1:24:26
them in like interesting seasons like Friday the 13th in the
1:24:29
snow. Like that sounds awesome.
1:24:31
And the great thing with Friday the 13th is it can happen all
1:24:34
year round. Yeah, exactly.
1:24:35
They stuck with the Summer camp theme, but it could have.
1:24:37
It could have been fucking April.
1:24:39
How many April horror movies do we get?
1:24:41
We've got April Fools. That's true.
1:24:43
Yeah, and that's it. And also Nightmare on Elm
1:24:46
Street. No winter ones.
1:24:47
Of those, I think it would be pretty sweet to have one of
1:24:49
those be cold, you know? It would be pretty cool.
1:24:53
I'm on board. I like it.
1:24:55
Plus, I just, I love the absolute high camp of it being.
1:25:01
I know what you did last summer and then it's in the winter.
1:25:04
Well, isn't it like a? Cuz you could do a similar thing
1:25:08
like, you know, a bunch of teens.
1:25:10
You know, just cavorting a route.
1:25:12
No manslaughtering innocent strangers.
1:25:15
And then they come home on winter break you.
1:25:17
Want me to tell you this can be done?
1:25:20
Do it like you can continue it in Colorado, Just go to the
1:25:23
slopes. Exactly.
1:25:25
We could even tie it in. 4th of July in like, snowy weather.
1:25:28
Yeah, you can do it. All right.
1:25:31
We got it right there. I'm on board.
1:25:33
Hire us for the next installment.
1:25:35
It can't get any worse. Dude, our Wrong Turn 3.5.
1:25:40
It's pretty awesome, by the way. Like, I still think that that's
1:25:43
a great premise for a Wrong Turn movie.
1:25:45
All right, I'm sure you got a positive review for this.
1:25:48
And I would really like to hear from somebody who genuinely
1:25:51
loves this movie because like I said, I fully understand how
1:25:55
somebody could love it, but I want to hear it in their own
1:25:56
words. OK, well I went to IMDb.
1:26:01
And this is somebody that rated it eight out of 10.
1:26:04
OK, see, I went, I wanted to like, I wanted to vet these, and
1:26:08
I wanted when they actually had like good insight on why they.
1:26:11
Oh yeah, no, I always do that. I always look for something
1:26:13
other than loved it. Yeah, and it was actually
1:26:18
reviewed 2 days before it released.
1:26:28
You've vetted that really good. This is a first.
1:26:34
Well, maybe he had like an early show.
1:26:36
Here's. The thing I could totally cut
1:26:38
that out and nobody would ever know.
1:26:40
But it's staying in. That's fine.
1:26:42
That's cool. I wanna be fully transparent
1:26:44
about the reviews here. All right, so it is titled.
1:26:49
Not the best, but dot dot dot still very decent as someone
1:26:55
whose work. As someone who works in the
1:26:58
movie making industry, I know first hand that it's become
1:27:01
quite difficult to get film makers to come up with
1:27:03
storylines that are good. Hence the numerous and
1:27:06
unnecessary remakes this is going on in, like the big remake
1:27:09
boom by the. Way, Yeah.
1:27:10
Oh yeah. It was the IT was the odds.
1:27:13
Yeah, mid odds. Nonetheless, I'll Always Know,
1:27:16
is a breath of fresh air from all the depressing remakes and
1:27:19
rehashes of ancient movies that deserve to be left alone.
1:27:23
Yes, there are times when the script is contrived and dull,
1:27:26
but for the most part the action is decent and keeps a good
1:27:29
steady pace. The gore is immensely greater
1:27:32
than either one or two. And of course everyone is a red
1:27:35
herring. Although I enjoy this movie, I
1:27:37
know it won't be everyone's cup of tea as I've seen from reviews
1:27:41
I've read. So other people have seen this
1:27:43
too already. For someone who is looking for a
1:27:46
movie that is about Scream, that is a.
1:27:48
Was this movie peak on the festival?
1:27:51
Service. I don't know.
1:27:53
That would be amazing if it were for someone who is looking for a
1:27:59
movie that is above screen, below Wes Craven in the 70s and
1:28:04
80s and just wants to see a horror movie that gives great
1:28:08
gore slightly above acting, especially the 80s.
1:28:11
And a script that's more intelligent than most.
1:28:13
See this. For everyone else, avoid.
1:28:16
I want this dude's letterbox to count.
1:28:19
Yeah, I wanna know what he's watching.
1:28:22
He's got the early scoops, you know?
1:28:24
Like, you know, you can find out all that shit online.
1:28:26
Really. No.
1:28:27
Like, again, it's one of those, I'm not gonna judge somebody for
1:28:30
loving this movie. And I really hope there are
1:28:32
people out there that love it, because every movie deserves to
1:28:34
be loved. It's not what I wanted.
1:28:39
And that's also part of that's just cuz I'm not a very big
1:28:42
action person, you know, he mentioned a lot of action in
1:28:44
this. Maybe that's what appeals to
1:28:45
him. Yeah, that's true.
1:28:46
I didn't like the action. Pieces of this, yeah, I just it
1:28:51
wasn't for me. But that doesn't mean that it's
1:28:53
a bad movie. You know, I think if you have
1:28:55
never seen any of the other, I know what you did last summer
1:28:58
movies. I think if this was like your
1:29:00
first one, you would maybe have like, it's decent, you know,
1:29:03
it's not bad. Yeah.
1:29:03
Stuff that it comes in on this. We came in on Sleepaway Camp on
1:29:07
Part 2. Yeah.
1:29:08
Like, I mean, that's great. Yeah, but like, still like it
1:29:11
was completely different from part one.
1:29:13
Yeah, that's true, Yeah. And I could see if you came in
1:29:16
on this like you'd be like, oh, OK, well, I don't have prior
1:29:18
expectations and you know it. It's just hard to separate it
1:29:23
from the other two for me personally.
1:29:24
And I think a big part of those because those movies were super
1:29:28
important to me growing up and really good.
1:29:31
Yeah. And I fucking loved the
1:29:33
soundtrack to the first one. I listened to it on repeat.
1:29:38
Yeah. All right.
1:29:39
Cool. Well, that was some good
1:29:41
perspective from somebody that does actually like it.
1:29:44
Well, that's good because we don't have any listener reviews
1:29:46
for this one. Yeah, our listener reviews were
1:29:48
I didn't know this movie existed and I forgot this movie existed
1:29:52
until you posted this. Yep.
1:29:55
That's totally understandable, cuz this is a well, actually I
1:29:58
would have thought that more people knew that there was that
1:30:00
there to know. You did last summer.
1:30:01
Here's the thing, though, is there are plenty of franchises
1:30:04
that I'm surprised at how many entries there are to them.
1:30:06
That's true. That happens to me too.
1:30:08
Yeah, like it happens. It's not that surprising.
1:30:11
It's not like. Like it's an old franchise, like
1:30:14
the best ones were in the 90s. Like, it's not like it's fresh,
1:30:17
It's on people's minds, all the. Time and I could honestly Did we
1:30:20
know that it existed before we found it at?
1:30:23
I don't think so. Movies to go, that was their
1:30:25
first watch for us both back then and that was in the twenty
1:30:28
10s. Yeah, like, yeah.
1:30:31
Did we even know it existed? And we were like, is this a
1:30:33
sequel? Like, I think we might have had
1:30:35
that reaction. Yeah.
1:30:37
So yeah, I get it. That's cool.
1:30:41
Or maybe GET. I'm sure we'll have some Screen
1:30:43
6 reviews. No, we definitely will.
1:30:46
I'm very excited to talk about it.
1:30:48
That's what we're talking about next week is Screen Six.
1:30:50
We are closing up our screen coverage for now.
1:30:52
For now, there will be a 7. That's been confirmed.
1:30:54
Yeah, we just don't have like any kind of a date yet.
1:30:57
And that's not coming anytime soon until some big execs decide
1:31:02
stop being Grady, oh. Shit, I didn't even think about
1:31:04
that. But yeah, that's really deleted.
1:31:06
Dude, that. Halloween had that with COVID,
1:31:09
and now Scream's gonna have that with the fucking strike.
1:31:11
Yeah, yeah, all right, so I'm being greedy motherfuckers.
1:31:14
Yeah, pay the people what they're worth.
1:31:16
Yeah, OK. Anyway, scream 6 right now.
1:31:21
You can watch it on. Paramount plus.
1:31:23
Paramount Plus for sure. That's all I know you can.
1:31:26
Rent it, Yeah, Let me look up where to rent it.
1:31:29
It's also it just came out on Blu-ray this week actually so.
1:31:34
So you can rent it, or you can stream it on Paramount Plus or
1:31:37
Prime if you have a premium subscription.
1:31:40
Or you can rent it from YouTube, Google Play, Red Box, or Voodoo
1:31:44
for $6. Trust me.
1:31:46
All worth the price of admission.
1:31:48
If you've not seen it yet, and you've seen like the other five,
1:31:51
fuck yeah, watch it. And if you were concerned about
1:31:55
part 5, like if it made you concerned about part 6, don't,
1:32:00
yeah. Don't be.
1:32:02
Don't be concerned. I mean, I get where you're
1:32:03
coming from, but. You know what?
1:32:05
No, it's fun go in concerned. Because I went in concerned and
1:32:08
I had a pretty nice experience with this.
1:32:11
So you'll it might change your mind.
1:32:15
And it's starring. Are there Dylan McDermott or
1:32:19
Dermot Mulroney? One of the two of those.
1:32:21
I get their names mixed up a lot.
1:32:22
Yeah, I don't really. I'm not super familiar with the
1:32:25
dude, but I respect them for this.
1:32:27
Yeah, but I gotta. Say it's Dermot Mulroney.
1:32:30
He had a brief guest appearance in like a three episode arc of
1:32:33
Friends. We'll have this figured out next
1:32:36
week. Will we?
1:32:37
We will okay. We'll get to the bottom of.
1:32:38
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1:32:42
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1:32:47
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1:32:49
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1:32:51
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1:34:04
Was supposed to do that with you, wasn't I?
1:34:05
You are, and it's always over there yelling with me.
1:34:08
Right now, she's at least in it.