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Jaguars Happy Hour | Draft Approaching, Analyzing Potential Rule Changes in '26 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, March twenty six. This is Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: Hours and now the fourth K Pop demon Hugger jap Chach.
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Speaker 2: Have no idea what that means, but welcome in. It
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Speaker 2: is Jaguars Happy Hour. It is an hour. It is
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Speaker 2: on radio, It is on Jaguars YouTube, it is on
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Speaker 2: Jaguars dot com. Here is what will be contained in
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Speaker 2: the show today is what's coming up. Of course the
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Speaker 2: latest Jaguars news. That won't take long. There's not much
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Speaker 2: going on. We'll also get into the Jaguars new office
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Speaker 2: building open this week. We'll take a look at that
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Speaker 2: real quick. Proposed rule changes are out. The NFL annual
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Speaker 2: meeting is next week and we'll give a thumbs up
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Speaker 2: thumbs down from Jeff Logman on some of these proposed changes.
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Speaker 2: We'll go around the National Football League as well. Some
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Speaker 2: other teams are a little busier, at least in the
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Speaker 2: headlines than the Jaguars these days. We're on ten to excel, Am.
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Speaker 2: Glad you're with us. J P. Shadwick with Jeff Logoman.
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Speaker 2: Good afterno, good afternoon. It's kind of quiet across the
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Speaker 2: league right now. You know. It's it's that if something's
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Speaker 2: happening right now. It's uh, it's one of those like
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Speaker 2: third or fourth or fifth level kind of transaction on
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Speaker 2: the roster that it's getting publicized, and the only reason
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Speaker 2: it's getting publicized because there's nothing else happening. Yeah, like
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Speaker 2: the Jaguars thing last week, Jake Bobo, they gave it
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Speaker 2: off her sheet and the Seahawks matched it. That's the story, right.
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Speaker 2: I was and I was reading, you know, Pro Football
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Speaker 2: Talk is you know, one of my favorite sites to read,
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Speaker 2: you know, because it's like a gathering point of information,
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Speaker 2: and they were talking about how, you know, the the
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Speaker 2: whole critique of the college quarterbacks now is big news now,
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Speaker 2: you know, and that's kind of you know, now the
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Speaker 2: focus is starting to move towards the draft and and
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Speaker 2: that's really where it's at now. So when you have
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Speaker 2: somebody make any kind of comments about man as being
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Speaker 2: maybe not the first pick overall, it creates a firestorm
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Speaker 2: of debate. I mean, that's where we're at right now.
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Speaker 2: Kind of crazy, it is, but it is what it is.
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Speaker 2: But I like the fact that the leak meetings are
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Speaker 2: coming up. Fernandez what I say? He said, Fernandez, I'm like,
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Speaker 2: who the hell is Fernandez, Fernando Mendo. Thank you. I
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Speaker 2: was not I did a morph of the first and
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Speaker 2: last name. There you did. I'm like, who's that? Thank you?
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Speaker 2: Yeah for the help on that one. Anyway, that was
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Speaker 2: a good one. Yeah, he's here. He's clear cut the
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Speaker 2: first pick. Oh, they're going to take him. Now. The
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Speaker 2: argument is is he the best quarterback? I don't know,
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Speaker 2: there's not many out there. Ty Simpson said he's definitely
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Speaker 2: a first round pick after his pro day. Yeah, well,
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Speaker 2: I mean geez, I mean one of the top thirty two.
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Speaker 2: That's I mean in one of the top quarterbacks. I
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Speaker 2: mean it's premium position, and that's that's news, right, I guess.
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Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt though, who the number
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Speaker 2: one pick is gonna be. I mean, just just look
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Speaker 2: at the body of work and look at the leadership,
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Speaker 2: look at the performance in the big games, look at
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Speaker 2: the accuracy. I mean, he's got everything you could possibly want.
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Speaker 2: I think he's a true pocket passer. There will be
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Speaker 2: I think a little bit of a learning curve, as
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Speaker 2: there always is for first overall picks, especially because of
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Speaker 2: the quality of the roster that the Raiders have. I mean,
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Speaker 2: that's a big question mark. You know, so unfortunately a
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Speaker 2: lot of first overall picks, Trevor Lawrence walks into a
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Speaker 2: situation that's not exactly optimum. There's a reason the team
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Speaker 2: has the first round pick exactly is they stink usually, Well,
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Speaker 2: the Raiders really stink. I mean that's you know, the
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Speaker 2: Jaguars stunk back when Trevor Lawrence was the first overall pick,
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Speaker 2: and they really stunk then. And the Raiders really stink. Now,
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Speaker 2: so they had lost fifteen straight at that point when
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Speaker 2: they had the Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, so then they made it,
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Speaker 2: what a twenty in a row. Well, and that's that's
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Speaker 2: the you know. And I think it's going to be
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Speaker 2: interesting too at some point because you know, the Raiders
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Speaker 2: tanked to get the first overall pick, and now there's
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Speaker 2: this big debate going on with the NBA about how
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Speaker 2: do you stop teams from tanking? You know, So will
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Speaker 2: that debate maybe flow into the NFL's draft. I mean,
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Speaker 2: I don't know, will it, because I mean the reality
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Speaker 2: is is that the Raiders tanked. They shut down Max
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Speaker 2: Crosby at the end of the year. Why did they
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Speaker 2: shut him down, Well, I mean to shut him down
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Speaker 2: to protect himself a little bit based upon the failed
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Speaker 2: physical with the trade to Baltimore. But I mean he
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Speaker 2: also claimed he wasn't hurt. So he was hurt. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: he was hurt, but he didn't he claimed he wasn't.
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Speaker 2: He was unhappy with not playing, very unhappy he was
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Speaker 2: not playing. But I believe that the Raiders were trying
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Speaker 2: to protect him from himself. But at the same token,
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Speaker 2: guys that played put it this way, the Raiders were
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Speaker 2: in contention for a playoff spot. Do you think they
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Speaker 2: would to shut him down? I don't think so. No chance,
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Speaker 2: no chance, you know, so, I don't know. I think
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Speaker 2: it's going be interesting to see, you know, could that
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Speaker 2: possibility happen with the NFL to where you get you know,
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Speaker 2: it's a lottery type system and you don't know who's
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Speaker 2: going to have the first overall t get teams not tanking.
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Speaker 2: I hate the lottery. Why it's just come on, man, like,
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Speaker 2: just do do it like they do now and just
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Speaker 2: penalized teams. If there's actual evidence of JP everybody tanks,
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Speaker 2: what do you mean actually they just stunk? You don't
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Speaker 2: think they tanked. I don't think so. I don't think
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Speaker 2: they actually tanked. I mean at that point, I just
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Speaker 2: thought they were bad. Well, I mean, look at look
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Speaker 2: at the recent past. You think was trying to tank games.
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Speaker 2: Is last year's head coach to get the first round
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Speaker 2: pick for the next guy? I don't think so. Uh yeah,
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Speaker 2: I don't think he was tanked. Come on, man, But
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Speaker 2: there's been teams that have tanked JP. Come on, Oh,
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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not challenging that the teams have tanked
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Speaker 2: in the NFL. And like I said, will that will
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Speaker 2: that debate reach the NFL about possibly having a lottery
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Speaker 2: for the picks? I don't know. I don't know. We'll
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Speaker 2: see what time. Wi. You don't like that idea, you're
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Speaker 2: not a big fan of the lottery, Like then that
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Speaker 2: gives all of a sudden a chance, at least for
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Speaker 2: a team that's pretty good to have the first pick,
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Speaker 2: which if you want parody to maintain in the league, Well,
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Speaker 2: who said they want parody? The league wants pary? Well,
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Speaker 2: I mean that's what they want. You have free agency,
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Speaker 2: right sure? Okay, So okay, so you can compete make
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Speaker 2: your team better when free agency? Yeah, for a short
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Speaker 2: better develop better, Okay, just because you have maybe a
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Speaker 2: higher pick doesn't necessarily mean you're going to make the
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Speaker 2: better pick. True. I mean there's been many a teams,
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Speaker 2: this team included. I mean, this team might be the
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Speaker 2: shining example of and not recently, but I'm talking about
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Speaker 2: going back and look at not the last year, but
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Speaker 2: like we say, the fifth teen years prior to that.
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Speaker 2: I mean, well, you want to talk about a perfect
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Speaker 2: example of drafting poorly. I mean, this team drafted incredibly poorly, right,
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Speaker 2: and so well, Okay, they had higher picks, did it
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Speaker 2: reward them? Well, when they got the first pick, we
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Speaker 2: get better then the first pick with the picks they
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Speaker 2: got with the number one pick, Yes, with Trevor Lawrence,
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Speaker 2: we got right, but those are elite go go level.
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Speaker 2: So many drafts before that. How much better did this
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Speaker 2: team ever get? Was pretty good? That's pretty good. Pain
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Speaker 2: in the asked to do with. But he's pretty good.
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Speaker 2: How good was the team when he was here? One
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Speaker 2: good year? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, same thing, one good year.
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Speaker 2: That's my point. Okay, you've got the teams that draft well,
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Speaker 2: draft well, whether it's the first pick or whether it's
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Speaker 2: pick thirty two. Okay, the good teams find ways to
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Speaker 2: get better because they draft well. So that's why I
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Speaker 2: believe that a draft lotter. I would be in favor
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Speaker 2: of a draft lottery to keep teams from tanking towards
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Speaker 2: the end of the season. I would absolutely be for that.
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Speaker 2: We'run tot xlam Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube. It is
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Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour from the Hyundai Studios and Test Drivenue
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Speaker 2: Hunday today only at your local Hyundai dealer. We're at
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Speaker 2: the Miller Electric Center across the street. Some Jaguars offices
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Speaker 2: officially opened this week. The ribbon cutting at one Tower
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Speaker 2: Court is what happened earlier this week on Wednesday, in
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Speaker 2: fact and Jaguars team President Mark Lamping, the Mayor Donald
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Speaker 2: Deagan were there, a bunch of dignitaries, city council people
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Speaker 2: all in attendance. And the first class A office building
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Speaker 2: open in the downtown Jacksonville area in nearly twenty years.
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Speaker 2: Two thousand and seven, I think was the last one.
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Speaker 2: The Jaguars business offices will hold the second, third, and
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Speaker 2: fourth floors. There are tenants scheduled to move into the
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Speaker 2: fifth and explores. There's a YMCA location on the ground
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Speaker 2: floor that is open to any YMCA member in the
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Speaker 2: du Vault County area, and there will be a restaurant
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Speaker 2: that opens very soon on the ground floor as well.
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Speaker 2: It's fantastic space for the Jaguars business offices. There were
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Speaker 2: tours held right after the ribbon cutting outside, so progress
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Speaker 2: on that side. That means all the business people are
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Speaker 2: out of the stadium, so construction can continue there and
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Speaker 2: that's where the home will be for the business office
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Speaker 2: from now on. I think it's one of the, if
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Speaker 2: not the most, one of the most spectacular buildings in
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Speaker 2: all of downtown architecture. Beautiful on the outside, and the
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Speaker 2: inside I know is absolutely going to be no slouch
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Speaker 2: compared to the outside. It just because the design and
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Speaker 2: the talents of Shauna Khan involved in that whole process. Man,
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Speaker 2: that's it And I can't wait. I'm gonna I'm gonna
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Speaker 2: take a tour sometime in the next week. It's pretty
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Speaker 2: nice and check it out. And then of course the
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Speaker 2: hotel right next door moving along very well, and shot
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Speaker 2: it very much involved in that in the design, interior
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Speaker 2: design certainly of that, they're not quite to that point yet,
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Speaker 2: but it's coming and it's moving fast. So all that
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Speaker 2: side of the the what is that Gator Bowl Drive.
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Speaker 2: I guess officially over there? Is that? What it is?
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Speaker 2: Does it end at? Like Philip Randolph, I don't know
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Speaker 2: where Gator Bowl Drive starts. I know I drive on
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Speaker 2: it every day and I don't know what I'm doing,
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Speaker 2: but it changes, you say, from to Gator Bowl Drive
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Speaker 2: somewhere in there. Why should it should be Jaguar Drive?
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Speaker 2: It's I mean, I don't know. I look at the
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Speaker 2: attendants of the Gator Bowl and look at the attendants
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Speaker 2: of the Jaguar against me. It should be its history.
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Speaker 2: I don't know one jaguar been here forever. Jaguar Drive
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Speaker 2: just my opinion. Okay, but what a beautiful building, great building.
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Speaker 2: The Marina is supposed to be open fairly soon, the
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Speaker 2: City Marina right there, and there'll be a couple of
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Speaker 2: more restaurants I think in that, and then a couple
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Speaker 2: more in the hotel when that opens. The part I'm
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Speaker 2: looking forward to kind of that revitalization. And Olympics said
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Speaker 2: there's gonna be like five restaurants combined in that area
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Speaker 2: and i' might have to have to take a trip
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Speaker 2: into the y. Yeah it's good. Got I got a
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Speaker 2: membership at the wy Gonna get me a workout in
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Speaker 2: over there. You like to work out, Yeah, trying to
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Speaker 2: keep this whole body together a little bit, JP, you know.
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Speaker 2: But it's a beautiful building. And what's really cool too,
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Speaker 2: is when if people ever have a chance to ride
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Speaker 2: up and down the river via a boat the backside
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Speaker 2: of the building, how it's it's it's almost like layered
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Speaker 2: stepped with the balconies all looking across the river. It's beautiful.
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Speaker 2: It's beautiful, beautiful. So how's the fishing in that part
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Speaker 2: of the river, by the way, it's actually I got
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Speaker 2: about uh, probably about well, actually about eight spots within
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Speaker 2: view if you were sitting. Yeah, I guess a really
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Speaker 2: good spot. I don't need you to share them on
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Speaker 2: the radio, No, no, can't share them. One I'm really good,
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Speaker 2: like right across right across the river by BK kind
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Speaker 2: of maybe maybe a little bit to the east. Okay,
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Speaker 2: all right, good to know, just asking for a friend.
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Speaker 2: That's it. There's a certain octagonal, octagon shaped doc. I'm
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Speaker 2: not going to try that one. Huh, imagine that. All right,
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Speaker 2: there's only one in that section of the river, so
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Speaker 2: we'll be hard to find there. You go. Good luck
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Speaker 2: figuring the tide out. It's tough with the tide moving. Huh.
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Speaker 2: You know you got to hit at the right right time.
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Speaker 2: That's all enough said. Maybe we can hear more on
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Speaker 2: Saturday in the Outdoor Show. Maybe maybe not, probably not
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Speaker 2: knowing you. We're back in a moment. This is the annual.
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Speaker 2: When we come back, Jeff, this is one of your
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Speaker 2: favorite segments all year long. Proposed rule changes by the NFL.
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Speaker 2: We'll get thumbs up, thumbs down, and maybe some more commentary.
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Speaker 2: How many proposed rule chaines do we have? Five? Five?
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Speaker 2: We're gonna go through all of them. Okay, when we
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Speaker 2: come back, I'm prepared. I can't wait to hear this
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Speaker 2: plenty ahead. Tintin xl Am Jaguars dot Com, Jaguars YouTube.
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Speaker 2: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back. Jaguars Happy Hour continues
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Speaker 2: on this Thursday, March twenty sixth, almost April, JP Shadrick,
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Speaker 2: Jeff Logman, Glad you're with us. Tintin XLAM Jaguars dot Com,
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Speaker 2: Jaguars YouTube. Kind of quiet on the Jaguars offices these days,
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Speaker 2: at least on this side of the building. The football
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Speaker 2: side is having meetings pre draft. You know, probably some
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Speaker 2: more free agency things going on that side of the
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Speaker 2: building in the scouting department may be more active than
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Speaker 2: at any other time of the year. This is their
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Speaker 2: like pre this is their season. Yeah, this is it. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: this is their season. Man, it's happening. There's a lot
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Speaker 2: going on over there. Yeah, And there's gotta be a
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Speaker 2: lot of kind of symmetry working together with the coaching
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Speaker 2: staff because you know, look, I'll never forget. One of
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Speaker 2: the longtime personnel guy that I've talked to years ago
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Speaker 2: said to me said, look, he said, you never want
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Speaker 2: to draft somebody that the coaching staff doesn't believe or support,
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Speaker 2: because if all of a sudden you give them somebody
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Speaker 2: that they didn't want any part of, what's that going
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Speaker 2: to look like? I mean? And so you got to
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Speaker 2: have everybody kind of run in that same direction, on
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Speaker 2: the same page whatever you want to kind of say,
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Speaker 2: from scouting and coaching. So they've got to be working
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say hand in hand, but they
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Speaker 2: have to make sure that they're in agreement whenever they
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Speaker 2: do make a big and you know it doesn't always
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Speaker 2: happen around here JBB. Going back to that poor drafting
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Speaker 2: stretch that we had as an organization. We're looking forward, Logs,
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Speaker 2: we're not looking back. I think it exists now. That's
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Speaker 2: why I'm saying I'm excited for it because of we
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Speaker 2: actually have that now. I mean, I remember hearing past
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Speaker 2: GMS talk about all this, you know, consensus stuff, and
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Speaker 2: it was total garbage. It was total garbage because it
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Speaker 2: didn't happen. I remember after the draft. They give you
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Speaker 2: a perfect example. After the draft. One time they drafted
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Speaker 2: a guy and I need names, Come on, we don't need.
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Speaker 2: I happen to talk to one of the position coachs.
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Speaker 2: I said, hey, what did you think about so and so?
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Speaker 2: They're like, don't like them, Like what what happened to consensus?
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Speaker 2: And so? Anyway, Yeah, all right, this is one of
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Speaker 2: your favorite segments each and every year, Logs. I just
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Speaker 2: say that. I don't know if that's true. I didn't
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Speaker 2: ask you before, but I'm just gonna say it, okay,
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Speaker 2: because it feels like it is. Say it. It feels
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Speaker 2: like it's one of your favorite segments. It is proposed.
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Speaker 2: Here's why why, here's why. Every year, there there's some
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Speaker 2: executives football people that have entirely too much time on
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Speaker 2: their hands, and then whenever something goes wrong, they want
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Speaker 2: to propose the rules that might have changed the outcome
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Speaker 2: some unfortunate circumstance that they found themselves in this past year, like,
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Speaker 2: for example, when the Saints got screwed in the playoff
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Speaker 2: game and the next year they made past interference reviewable
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Speaker 2: for a year. Correct. That was ridiculous. Correct, And of
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Speaker 2: course they overturned it after one year because it was stupid. Yes, okay,
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Speaker 2: the tush push. So last year there are two votes
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Speaker 2: away logs from passing that and banning it. This year,
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Speaker 2: it's not one of the five. Why because the Eagles lost. Well,
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Speaker 2: because the Eagles lost number one, and the success rate
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Speaker 2: of the tush push went down percent that's not the
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Speaker 2: percentage percent of why. Yeah, it didn't go down still
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Speaker 2: using you know what I mean, the crazy thing that
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Speaker 2: happened to the Rams with that one play where the
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Speaker 2: ball was kind of bouncing around and got recovered by
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Speaker 2: the two point play, right, yea yeah, yeh yeah in
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Now we've got to have a proposed rule
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Speaker 2: change on that. They were originally talking about it. That's
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Speaker 2: not on the list. I know they decided not to
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Speaker 2: do it, but they were saying they were going to
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Speaker 2: do it. Well, you say a lot of things, and
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Speaker 2: then only a few get through the competition committee and
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Speaker 2: then to ownership. I just hope you know, before we
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Speaker 2: get to obviously these proposed rule changes, okay, I hope
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Speaker 2: that there is some type of resolution with the officials
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Speaker 2: of the referee. Now that's one of them. And the
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Speaker 2: reason why I bring that up now is that you
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Speaker 2: can have all the best rules in the world, okay,
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Speaker 2: but if you don't have quality officials and I'm talking
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Speaker 2: about the best okay officiating your games, that's a problem.
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Speaker 2: And you also have to be able to make and
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Speaker 2: help them be at their best. So get the right
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Speaker 2: people in and make sure you give them the right
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Speaker 2: training and they also commit themselves in the right way
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Speaker 2: to make it the best that it possibly can be.
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Speaker 2: But anyway, just got a little sidetracked there. But because
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Speaker 2: the reason I say that is because sometimes all the
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Speaker 2: rule changes doesn't matter unless you have really good officials
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Speaker 2: execute game. We saw what happened the one year they
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Speaker 2: were holding out and they had the replacement officials in.
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Speaker 2: There's a term for that, JP and the it's a
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Speaker 2: two word combination. The first word I can't say the
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Speaker 2: second word show. Okay, I got you, I got it. Yes,
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Speaker 2: it wasn't good. It was not great, and it wasn't
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Speaker 2: it was terrible. No, And you know, so we'll see
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Speaker 2: what happens on that front. Everybody gives the referees an
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Speaker 2: officials grief. However, I think they do all in all
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Speaker 2: of fantastic. It's a very fast sport and you have
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Speaker 2: to call things live in an action. A lot of
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Speaker 2: them you cannot review. JP. There's been many times in
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Speaker 2: the booth where I said, I can't believe they're going
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Speaker 2: to make that call. I see the replay and I go, wow,
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Speaker 2: they're right. I hear that every Sunday. I know. I
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Speaker 2: always make the mistakes. It's just like what he's all
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Speaker 2: over these guys today, you know. And and here's something,
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Speaker 2: you know, there's a people are reading a lot right
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Speaker 2: now about the negotiation is going on between the league
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Speaker 2: and the referees right now, officials, and you got to remember,
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Speaker 2: you know, because right now they're not. It's not a
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Speaker 2: happy moment right now between the two. That's part of
19:14
Speaker 2: the game, okay, It's part of the game of negotiations.
19:17
Speaker 2: Things never get serious until the clock starts ticking. And
19:22
Speaker 2: unfortunately that's the way that it works sometimes. And I
19:27
Speaker 2: hope that as the clock does start to tick that
19:29
Speaker 2: there is there is some agreement and there's a resolution.
19:33
Speaker 2: You're going to see rhetoric from both sides. Yeah, there's
19:36
Speaker 2: a lot of rhetic right now because nobody's on the clock,
19:39
Speaker 2: that's right. I mean, we're still a long way away
19:41
Speaker 2: from games, and until you start getting close to the games,
19:45
Speaker 2: then there's no kind of urgency. Here are the proposed
19:52
Speaker 2: rule changes this year, all through the Competition Committee that
19:55
Speaker 2: will be bandied about next week at the NFL Annual Meeting.
20:00
Speaker 2: Number one, they're proposing to permit the kicking team to
20:03
Speaker 2: declare an on side kick at any time during the game.
20:07
Speaker 2: As it stands now, you can only do it in
20:08
Speaker 2: the fourth quart I like that. I think it's great,
20:11
Speaker 2: and why not. I mean the unfortunate thing is use
20:16
Speaker 2: there's no surprise because you have to that's the share, right,
20:20
Speaker 2: Why would you do one in the second quarter? Well,
20:22
Speaker 2: here's why. Okay, for example, let's say all of a sudden,
20:28
Speaker 2: the team that you so, the scoring team, scores and
20:33
Speaker 2: on the scoring play, the defense has a penalty going
20:37
Speaker 2: to be enforced on the kickoff okay, okay, and then
20:40
Speaker 2: you opt to do an on side kick. Now does
20:43
Speaker 2: that move the kickpoint for the on side kick more forward? Should? Okay?
20:47
Speaker 2: If that's the case, then you know, what would you
20:50
Speaker 2: consider an onside kick in the midfield area? So even
20:55
Speaker 2: if you don't make the recovery that your opponent doesn't
20:59
Speaker 2: have field position on the plus side of the field.
21:03
Speaker 2: I mean, there's some spot that maybe you would or
21:06
Speaker 2: in a situation that you may do it where you're
21:08
Speaker 2: not it's in the first or the second quarter, So
21:12
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that. I don't know if it would
21:15
Speaker 2: be used a lot, maybe a very rare situation, but yeah,
21:22
Speaker 2: why not let them do it? Rule? What do you think? Uh? Yeah,
21:26
Speaker 2: why not just let them do it? If you want
21:29
Speaker 2: to do it, why not? You know, that's fine if
21:31
Speaker 2: you whatever, it's your on side kicking. But I mean,
21:34
Speaker 2: I still I don't know. I still love the old
21:37
Speaker 2: style where you could just kick and surprise people. But
21:39
Speaker 2: those days are little too. But it's all, yeah, it's
21:41
Speaker 2: long gone, So I mean that's you know, it's it's
21:43
Speaker 2: like talking to an empty room. I also like the wishbone,
21:47
Speaker 2: so whatever, that's fine. Rule number two UH to eliminate
21:52
Speaker 2: the kicking team's incentive to intentionally kick the ball out
21:55
Speaker 2: of bounds when kicking off from the fifty yard line
21:57
Speaker 2: very confusing. So you get the if it's a kick
22:00
Speaker 2: out of bounds, it's a certain amount of yardage from
22:02
Speaker 2: where the ball was kicked where the ball the receiving
22:05
Speaker 2: team gets the football. So when there was a penalty,
22:08
Speaker 2: let's say on the extra point, the kickoff would be
22:11
Speaker 2: at midfield. It's more advantageous for the kicking team to
22:15
Speaker 2: kick it out of bounds because they get it like
22:16
Speaker 2: the twenty instead of letting them return it to the
22:20
Speaker 2: thirty whatever. So that's why you saw a few instances
22:24
Speaker 2: last year of teams intentionally kicking it out of bounds
22:28
Speaker 2: on the kickoff. I saw it on the Thanksgiving game
22:30
Speaker 2: Chiefs Cowboys. That happened at one point. Now, when it
22:33
Speaker 2: first happened, I was like, what in the world's going on?
22:35
Speaker 2: Does he do it? Why are you kick it out?
22:36
Speaker 2: A horrible kick? No, they did it on purpose. Yeah,
22:40
Speaker 2: and so there's some of that they want to there's
22:43
Speaker 2: a proposal to eliminate that. Yeah. I'm a little in
22:48
Speaker 2: a gray area JP and usually I'm not very in
22:50
Speaker 2: the gray area. When it comes to things that I
22:52
Speaker 2: want to learn more about what they want to replace
22:54
Speaker 2: it with. I would say, I'm guessing here, you'd replace
22:58
Speaker 2: it with if it's out of bounds, you get a
23:00
Speaker 2: that x yard line no matter what, instead of so
23:04
Speaker 2: many yards from the kicking spot, which is in the
23:07
Speaker 2: rule book. Now. I think just the wording would probably
23:09
Speaker 2: have to change, like you get it at the forty
23:11
Speaker 2: no matter what. I would think, Yeah, I don't. I
23:13
Speaker 2: don't think no, no, because I mean then then you're
23:16
Speaker 2: kind of eliminating the penalty. You know, the whole purpose
23:18
Speaker 2: of the penalty was to penalize the receiving team. No, no,
23:22
Speaker 2: the penalty is to penalize the kicking team for kicking
23:25
Speaker 2: it out of bounds. Correct, So give the receiving team
23:28
Speaker 2: the ball to forty. That eliminate if you kick it
23:31
Speaker 2: out of bounds under the current roles, though they get
23:33
Speaker 2: it where that like the twenty, right, So it helps
23:37
Speaker 2: the kicking team. But here's here penalizes the team that
23:39
Speaker 2: shouldn't be penalized. Let's go back to the original penalty,
23:42
Speaker 2: which the penalty was allowing the kickoff team to kick
23:44
Speaker 2: from the fifty, which they subsequently would kick it out
23:47
Speaker 2: of bounds and the receiving team will get it at
23:49
Speaker 2: the twenty I think the twenty five. I think it's
23:51
Speaker 2: twenty five, right, So, I mean the original penalty was
23:55
Speaker 2: designed to penal lies the receiving team, So if they
23:59
Speaker 2: can just kick get out of bounds and they take
24:01
Speaker 2: over at the twenty five, they got penalized for the
24:04
Speaker 2: previous penalty, I'm okay with that. You see what I'm saying. Yeah, interesting,
24:10
Speaker 2: So why should we kind of take away the penalty
24:14
Speaker 2: going back on the scoring play and anyway? I just
24:18
Speaker 2: don't I think the way it is, I think it
24:20
Speaker 2: is totally fine. Huh. I think you need to leave
24:23
Speaker 2: it as is. You think, okay? All right, yeah, I
24:27
Speaker 2: like that unless you got unless there's some way to
24:31
Speaker 2: still have the original penalized team still be penalized. So then,
24:38
Speaker 2: in other words, I need more information as to how
24:41
Speaker 2: we're going to replace. It's a great perspective. Logs, Okay,
24:44
Speaker 2: this is why we do this each year. I like this.
24:46
Speaker 2: You have deep thoughts about each one of these. Let's
24:48
Speaker 2: go to number three to modify kickoff alignment requirements for
24:52
Speaker 2: receiving team players in the setup zone. So this is
24:55
Speaker 2: deep football special teams where guys are lining up and
25:00
Speaker 2: you know, than the line of script, they have to
25:01
Speaker 2: be a certain amount of players, and they got to
25:04
Speaker 2: be spatial related to a certain number only loud on
25:08
Speaker 2: this side versus that side at the beak, you know.
25:11
Speaker 2: And I would guess if they're talking about this, then
25:14
Speaker 2: special teams coordinators around the league have been involved to
25:16
Speaker 2: way too much time to come up with this proposal.
25:19
Speaker 2: But there's probably a reason. I would like to know what,
25:22
Speaker 2: and I think we're not going to find it out
25:24
Speaker 2: right here. I'll have to talk to the Jags special
25:26
Speaker 2: teams coaches here. I'm sure he's had a little bit
25:29
Speaker 2: more on that one, all right. Number four to allow
25:32
Speaker 2: league personnel to consult with on field officials when considering
25:36
Speaker 2: disqualifications for both flagrant football acts and non football acts
25:40
Speaker 2: without being called on the field. So essentially, this is
25:43
Speaker 2: allowing New York to come in and throw a flag
25:45
Speaker 2: after the fact for like a punch or a flagrant
25:49
Speaker 2: football act like hitting the quarterback high. I mean, what's
25:53
Speaker 2: the purpose of I mean, that's why you have officials
25:56
Speaker 2: on the field. And here's the part that I think
26:00
Speaker 2: That is very interesting. Okay, tell me again about the process.
26:05
Speaker 2: You said, well, we're gonna send it to New York
26:08
Speaker 2: and let them do it. The replay guy or whoever,
26:11
Speaker 2: there's somebody else that's not on the field. Who is whoever?
26:14
Speaker 2: Who is New York? Is it? Is it a bunch
26:20
Speaker 2: of guys drinking beer watching games? Going man? Did you
26:23
Speaker 2: see that? Hey, let's make sure he gets a flag?
26:25
Speaker 2: I mean, who is that? They don't drink beer in
26:27
Speaker 2: the relay room? What are their training? What are their
26:32
Speaker 2: qualifications to make judgments from New York and games? Who
26:38
Speaker 2: are they? If it's if it's an identified let's say,
26:44
Speaker 2: panel of former officials that are handpicked that have earned
26:49
Speaker 2: their way to sit in that seat in New York
26:52
Speaker 2: to make those decisions. Okay, well, here's at least let
26:56
Speaker 2: me ask you something here. Jpick any decision that's ever
26:59
Speaker 2: gone back to New York. Okay, any decision that's gone
27:04
Speaker 2: back to New York? Do you have any idea who
27:06
Speaker 2: made that decision? There is? From what I understand, the
27:11
Speaker 2: process usually is this, there is a person monitoring each game.
27:17
Speaker 2: There are people in that room that monitor the game,
27:19
Speaker 2: and I think it's the head, the League official. Whoever
27:22
Speaker 2: that top person is now is a vincent. I think
27:25
Speaker 2: Troy's that room. I believe. However, there's a person monitoring
27:30
Speaker 2: each game. That's why I put that lead person in
27:33
Speaker 2: the middle. You can't watch eight games at once. You
27:35
Speaker 2: have to have somebody to take come over here and
27:37
Speaker 2: take a look at this, and this is New York
27:40
Speaker 2: now looking at it. I'm okay, that's I think the process. Now.
27:44
Speaker 2: Now the question of this rule is that can that person, Oh,
27:48
Speaker 2: we saw they missed a headshot on the quarterback, Let's
27:51
Speaker 2: buzz them and throw the flag on the court on
27:53
Speaker 2: the defensive end. I'm okay. That's the rule change they're considering.
27:58
Speaker 2: I'm okay if that's what they want to do, okay,
28:02
Speaker 2: But there's got to be some type of I guess
28:07
Speaker 2: you used to say clarity, okay, to for us to
28:13
Speaker 2: understand who is New York? Who are these people? Okay?
28:17
Speaker 2: If you're not going to talk about who that is
28:20
Speaker 2: and what their qualifications are and how that process works
28:24
Speaker 2: when it comes from New York, okay, where they can
28:27
Speaker 2: buzz into a game, to me, it's like it's under
28:33
Speaker 2: this veil of secrecy. Why why if you can make
28:38
Speaker 2: it to where it is very easy for people to
28:42
Speaker 2: understand the whole process of how it works. And what's
28:46
Speaker 2: the word I'm looking for, as far as like, it's
28:48
Speaker 2: very clear and people aren't hiding anything. There's a term,
28:53
Speaker 2: and I'm dropping the ball on exactly what the term is.
28:56
Speaker 2: But if everybody understands what the process is in New
28:59
Speaker 2: York and how it works, and what the so called
29:01
Speaker 2: chan of command and who the people are that are
29:03
Speaker 2: making those decisions and we know that they're qualified, Okay,
29:07
Speaker 2: I'm okay with that, but that's not there right now,
29:10
Speaker 2: and unless they I'm looking at Here's what I'm looking at.
29:14
Speaker 2: This is the Football Operations website, the official site that
29:17
Speaker 2: has all the rules, has everything on it, and an
29:19
Speaker 2: instant replay Part five of the review instant replay field
29:23
Speaker 2: operator will bring the referee. A surface tablet referee will
29:26
Speaker 2: view the play. After referee reviews the play, with that,
29:30
Speaker 2: a senior designated member of the officiating department will make
29:33
Speaker 2: the final decision on the review. Then who's that There's
29:35
Speaker 2: no I mean, there's multiple people, I believe, but that's
29:38
Speaker 2: the part that I don't. I'm sure they probably tell
29:40
Speaker 2: them internally who it is. Well, they've never well they've
29:43
Speaker 2: never said anything ever about any decision that has come
29:47
Speaker 2: from New York in the past. They've never said that, hey,
29:50
Speaker 2: so and so made this call from New York on this. Okay,
29:54
Speaker 2: That's why I believe that you've got to have You
29:57
Speaker 2: got to make sure that people can see every thing
30:00
Speaker 2: for what it is and understand who is making those decisions.
30:04
Speaker 2: If you're going to have this secrecy about who New
30:07
Speaker 2: York is and who's making those calls and who senior
30:10
Speaker 2: official officiating is, then to me, that's that's not good.
30:13
Speaker 2: This is just you being all over the officials again.
30:16
Speaker 2: This is now that's what I'm saying. I think the
30:18
Speaker 2: responsibility should stay with the officials on the field. Let's
30:22
Speaker 2: get one more rule. This is the fifth and final one,
30:24
Speaker 2: and this is a proposal for one year only to
30:27
Speaker 2: allow the NFL Officiating Department to correct clear and obvious
30:30
Speaker 2: misses made by on field officials that impact the game
30:33
Speaker 2: in the event that there is a work stoppage involving
30:36
Speaker 2: game officials represented by the NFL Referees Association. So only
30:41
Speaker 2: if there's a work stoppage would the NFL Officiating Department
30:44
Speaker 2: be able to change clear and obvious changes on the field.
30:47
Speaker 2: So we're setting something up just in case, just in case.
30:51
Speaker 2: So you're saying, there's talking about rhetoric, a chance rhetoric. Yeah,
30:56
Speaker 2: I'm not. I mean, you know what I mean. And
30:59
Speaker 2: so we're gonna and so again, who's the officiating department?
31:03
Speaker 2: Who is that there? You? Okay? What are their names?
31:07
Speaker 2: And how does that process work? Okay, whether whether you
31:11
Speaker 2: have the high quality officials that we want to see
31:15
Speaker 2: on the field, or whether it's a band of merry
31:18
Speaker 2: men replacements. Okay, you still want to understand who that
31:24
Speaker 2: who those people are in New York, just trying to
31:28
Speaker 2: set I mean, it's if you just make it known.
31:32
Speaker 2: Let's go back and another flashback here in Jaguars history.
31:35
Speaker 2: Can't wait? Okay, how long did we not know who
31:40
Speaker 2: was calling plays under with Doug Peterson and our off
31:45
Speaker 2: a year? Plus? Yeah? Okay, when they did it for
31:47
Speaker 2: a year, it didn't tell anybody that they were changing it. Okay.
31:51
Speaker 2: So if you just answered the question, you know, and
31:55
Speaker 2: you were just like upfront and on us and made
31:57
Speaker 2: it made it clear, do you think the the questions
32:00
Speaker 2: would have continued? Probably not, But I think that was
32:03
Speaker 2: part of the strategy from the head coach at that time.
32:07
Speaker 2: You know what, let's make him study both study what right,
32:11
Speaker 2: study play calls, trying to figure out who's calling what
32:14
Speaker 2: you don't know. You don't know you think they actually
32:17
Speaker 2: study that guessing or give him, don't give them guess.
32:22
Speaker 2: You just created more questions that continue to be asked
32:25
Speaker 2: about your organization and your staff. So my point is
32:30
Speaker 2: is that if you just go ahead and lay it
32:32
Speaker 2: out there, okay, instead of trying to hold back information
32:36
Speaker 2: and make it very clear, here's how the process is
32:39
Speaker 2: going to work. Here, who's here, here's the people that
32:41
Speaker 2: sit in that chair, and they're going to be doing this,
32:44
Speaker 2: and that guy's going to be doing that. That's how
32:46
Speaker 2: it's going to work. Then people will go, Okay, that's cool. Okay,
32:49
Speaker 2: then maybe we could have that process installed. Maybe next
32:54
Speaker 2: week we'll have probably some resolutions on some of this,
32:58
Speaker 2: because the league meetings are early next Yeah, it's the
33:01
Speaker 2: time that the clock's not ticking yet on the official
33:04
Speaker 2: stuff yet. That's not gonna happen next but like the
33:06
Speaker 2: rule changes will be voted all next week. Yeah, we'll
33:08
Speaker 2: be Monday and Tuesday. That'll happen next week. I will
33:11
Speaker 2: have a thrilling conclusion of that next Thursday. We're back
33:15
Speaker 2: in a moment, we'll go around the NFL. We also
33:17
Speaker 2: have to talk to computers coming up in just a
33:19
Speaker 2: little bit, as we always do on Thursday. What is
33:23
Speaker 2: we're going to talk to the computer? What's the computer
33:26
Speaker 2: is going to tell me? What's the category that we're
33:29
Speaker 2: going to ask the computer? Former Jaguars quarterbacks, Oh good one.
33:34
Speaker 2: Back in a moment. It's Jaguars Happy Hour. Welcome back.
33:41
Speaker 2: It is Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick, Jeff Logman from
33:44
Speaker 2: the Honday Studios at the Miller Electric Center. We're on
33:47
Speaker 2: tenon Xcel Am, Jaguars dot com, Jaguars YouTube each and
33:50
Speaker 2: every Thursday for an hour in the off season. We
33:54
Speaker 2: also have a Huddle Up podcast that comes up from
33:57
Speaker 2: the official Jaguars podcast network, Wednesday News jags Am on Tuesdays.
34:02
Speaker 2: I'm going backwards in the week, but that's Tuesday mornings
34:06
Speaker 2: at ten o'clock on Jaguars dot Com. So we keep
34:09
Speaker 2: you going with content throughout the off season and coming
34:12
Speaker 2: up in just a little bit of time week or two.
34:15
Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit further than that, a hunt will
34:18
Speaker 2: come back into play again outstanding. So they're working on
34:21
Speaker 2: that hard. That's it's one of my favorite things to watch. Yeah,
34:25
Speaker 2: it's pretty cool. It is cool. Can't get access like
34:28
Speaker 2: that anywhere else nowhere for the Jaguars. So check that
34:31
Speaker 2: out coming up in a few weeks. Let's go around
34:34
Speaker 2: the National Football League. We mentioned this fairly quiet in
34:37
Speaker 2: terms of news for Jaguars. Can we can we just
34:39
Speaker 2: go back just for a oh now what? Because if
34:42
Speaker 2: you for refree stout, you forgot that we were going
34:45
Speaker 2: to go back there and break. We talked about this
34:47
Speaker 2: because there was a word that I was looking for
34:50
Speaker 2: when it came to this possibility of a rule change
34:54
Speaker 2: that involves New York. Okay, and the one thing that
34:57
Speaker 2: hasn't existed in the process of New York being involved
35:02
Speaker 2: in the past has been the word. And I was
35:04
Speaker 2: looking for transparency. You found it. I found well, you
35:08
Speaker 2: found it. I found it as you were looking for it.
35:12
Speaker 2: If there's transparency with having a panel of people involved,
35:17
Speaker 2: whether it's for unqualified new officials that were replacing the
35:22
Speaker 2: good officials with or whether it's to help the good
35:27
Speaker 2: officials in certain moments of a game that they may
35:31
Speaker 2: not see. If there's transparency that I'm okay with it.
35:37
Speaker 2: But if there's not transparency, then why would there not be?
35:42
Speaker 2: Then why have them involved at all? I mean if
35:46
Speaker 2: because the way it's set up now is that the
35:48
Speaker 2: guys and the officials on the field and girls and
35:52
Speaker 2: ladies on the field are responsible for what they do.
35:56
Speaker 2: So now we're going to have something to where they
35:58
Speaker 2: get overruled or it gets changed from work, and then
36:00
Speaker 2: we don't know who made that decision. What if it's
36:02
Speaker 2: the right call if there's transparency JP, Again, I'm all
36:08
Speaker 2: for it, okay, but there's got to be transparency and
36:12
Speaker 2: then so just like after a game, Okay, they have
36:15
Speaker 2: a pool reporter that is available to talk to an official,
36:19
Speaker 2: the referee of the game, Yes, okay, if if if
36:24
Speaker 2: they're if you're gonna make him available after the game.
36:28
Speaker 2: And then you're gonna have somebody that's involved from New York. Okay,
36:32
Speaker 2: why would you not have them available for comment if
36:35
Speaker 2: that call certainly impacts the game, and if they're involved
36:40
Speaker 2: and they make a call, then with transparency, that person
36:44
Speaker 2: should be available for comment after the game, just like
36:47
Speaker 2: the referee of the game. Bugs. I appreciate your candor
36:52
Speaker 2: of this. Okay, we're gonna move along. We're gonna go
36:55
Speaker 2: around the nationals. I'm okay that. By the way, thank
36:56
Speaker 2: you for the help of the word. I don't know
36:58
Speaker 2: if I even use the right word in candor. I
37:00
Speaker 2: don't know it's made that up. I don't know what
37:02
Speaker 2: the word you did use with help being in transparence. Yes,
37:05
Speaker 2: thank you. You know what I did. Candor was right?
37:09
Speaker 2: Look at that. I went to the Harvard of the
37:11
Speaker 2: South Locks NFL this week announcing that the twenty twenty
37:14
Speaker 2: six kickoff game, presented by YouTube TV, scheduled for Wednesday,
37:18
Speaker 2: September ninth, eight to twenty pm on NBC and Peacock
37:21
Speaker 2: with the Super Bowl sixty champion Seattle Seahawks. It will
37:24
Speaker 2: be in Seattle, the opponent to be determined, and then
37:27
Speaker 2: the next day, Thursday, September tenth, in the US, this
37:32
Speaker 2: game will be in Melbourne, Australia, the forty nine ers
37:35
Speaker 2: in the Rams eight thirty five pm Eastern at the
37:38
Speaker 2: Melbourne Cricket Ground. That means that game will kick off
37:40
Speaker 2: at eleven thirty five am Australian time on the next day, Friday,
37:45
Speaker 2: fifteen hours ahead. Isn't that crazy. How about that. I
37:50
Speaker 2: think that's cool. Man having a game in Australia. Now
37:57
Speaker 2: nine international games on the schedule this year, four continents,
37:59
Speaker 2: seven in countries, eight stadiums. How many clips of crocodile
38:03
Speaker 2: dundee might we see a lot leading up to and
38:07
Speaker 2: during that game? Call that a knife? This is a knife.
38:13
Speaker 2: Raiders minority owner Tom Brady told Alex Sherman of CNBC
38:17
Speaker 2: that when he looked into the rules, it was made
38:19
Speaker 2: clear by the league that he cannot be an owner
38:21
Speaker 2: and a player at the same time. Quote, we explored
38:24
Speaker 2: a lot of different things and I'm very happily retired
38:26
Speaker 2: end Quote. He'd have to sell a steak in the
38:28
Speaker 2: team to be he's not doing He's not selling a
38:31
Speaker 2: steak because he got he got a sweetheart deal. He
38:34
Speaker 2: was doing some like flag football stuff this week. That's
38:37
Speaker 2: why this came out there. Did you see the ratings? No?
38:39
Speaker 2: I think her like only six hundred thousand people that
38:44
Speaker 2: watched that flag football broadcast. I mean you compare that
38:50
Speaker 2: to any other broadcast football and just it's it's peanuts,
38:55
Speaker 2: you know. And and of course also the NFL players
38:59
Speaker 2: got a quick dose of reality. When you've got these
39:03
Speaker 2: guys that do flag football on a regular basis and
39:07
Speaker 2: play and train and live in that world. NFL players,
39:12
Speaker 2: it's a different game, a totally different game. So it's
39:16
Speaker 2: going to be interesting to see if they are going
39:20
Speaker 2: to try to assimilate NFL players into this flag football
39:23
Speaker 2: in the NFL would love to have NFL players because
39:26
Speaker 2: I mean, it's great publicity and right, if you're trying
39:28
Speaker 2: to sell your game as the greatest football in the world,
39:33
Speaker 2: why would you not want to have your football players
39:35
Speaker 2: in the Flag Football Olympics, etc. Play twenty twenty eight
39:39
Speaker 2: LA Olympics flag football. I think it's going to be
39:43
Speaker 2: a really interesting watch for two reasons. One, can the
39:47
Speaker 2: NFL players play now. I think they're like cornerbacks, wide receivers, nickelbacks,
39:56
Speaker 2: the slot receivers, the guy that have a lot of
39:59
Speaker 2: quick change in direction. And I think those guys are
40:01
Speaker 2: going to be perfect fit. But I think a lot
40:04
Speaker 2: of the other guys are are going to be like linebackers,
40:07
Speaker 2: tight ends. I think it's gonna be a little bit
40:08
Speaker 2: difficult for them. It's got to be fast moving guys.
40:12
Speaker 2: And uh so, how many players will play in that.
40:17
Speaker 2: I think that's going to be an interesting watch. I
40:20
Speaker 2: played some flag football in college. I got more. I
40:23
Speaker 2: used to coach flag football. You got four penalty flags
40:25
Speaker 2: for chirping at the officials, shocking that you didn't did
40:28
Speaker 2: you get through? I was always get thrown out of it.
40:30
Speaker 2: I was always good with the officials, me and making
40:33
Speaker 2: bad calls. What do you want? I was an assistant
40:35
Speaker 2: coach on one of the best flag football teams ever.
40:40
Speaker 2: It's called the Hunters, and UH coach Kirby was the
40:43
Speaker 2: head coach. I was the assistant What are the rankings
40:46
Speaker 2: for these teams? By the way, all time flags, go
40:48
Speaker 2: back and look at that. No, no, no, that we were
40:52
Speaker 2: one of the best and we had a very talented team.
40:56
Speaker 2: I was the defensive coordinator. Christ was the offensive coordinator.
40:59
Speaker 2: We were really good. Yeah, we had a good group
41:02
Speaker 2: and group congrats we had about Is there a medal
41:05
Speaker 2: for that? About a four year run that we were
41:07
Speaker 2: just dominant? Is there a championship ring? No? No, no medals, no,
41:11
Speaker 2: just bragging rights, you know, kind of kind of like
41:13
Speaker 2: that Al Bundy memory, you know, like we're the greatest ever. Yeah, yeah, congrats,
41:19
Speaker 2: that's awesome. One more piece of news. Seahawks receiver Jackson Smith,
41:22
Speaker 2: and Jake was signed a four year, one hundred and
41:24
Speaker 2: sixty eight million dollar contract extension. One twenty of that
41:27
Speaker 2: guaranteed forty two million a year average over two million
41:32
Speaker 2: money a year than Jamar Chase for the highest ever
41:35
Speaker 2: for a wide receiver, which, uh, that's new money average. Yeah,
41:38
Speaker 2: so if you look at the average with the current
41:41
Speaker 2: contract that he has, it's obviously not forty two million,
41:45
Speaker 2: but it takes away some of the risks. The risk
41:48
Speaker 2: now goes to the club. So if he gets hurt,
41:50
Speaker 2: he says a ton of money that's going to be
41:53
Speaker 2: guaranteed to him, Which I mean that that's kind of
41:56
Speaker 2: the the ying and the yang of a player, right, Okay,
41:59
Speaker 2: do you do you take a contract now and it
42:06
Speaker 2: maybe not be as much money as what it could
42:09
Speaker 2: be a couple of years from now, But if you
42:11
Speaker 2: do that, then the risk of injury is in your core. Okay,
42:15
Speaker 2: if you sign it now, then the risk falls on
42:18
Speaker 2: the team because they have guaranteed money that they have
42:22
Speaker 2: to pay to you. And so as a player, that's
42:24
Speaker 2: always the thing that you're trying to figure out. Okay,
42:27
Speaker 2: do I get that money now and maybe take a
42:31
Speaker 2: little less of what I could make or do I
42:33
Speaker 2: take it later and get more, but I still have
42:37
Speaker 2: the risk of injury until I get that contract. You know,
42:40
Speaker 2: Whenever I hear he's a fantastic player, obviously first team
42:44
Speaker 2: All Pro, to your Pro Bowl or all that, and
42:46
Speaker 2: we saw it firsthand. Here what he can do, he's amazing.
42:48
Speaker 2: He's an amazing player. Whenever I hear his name or
42:51
Speaker 2: any of these other names, I just think about the
42:54
Speaker 2: wide receiver room they had at Ohio State in twenty
42:57
Speaker 2: twenty one. Here are the names in the wider recias.
43:00
Speaker 2: Take your pick on what year jpick. Yeah, they had
43:02
Speaker 2: a number of years in a row, but twenty twenty one,
43:05
Speaker 2: especially Garrett Wilson in Mecca Ibuka, Chris Olave, Jackson Smith
43:10
Speaker 2: and Jigba Marvin Harrison Junior all on the same team,
43:14
Speaker 2: all first round picks. And they lost two games that year.
43:17
Speaker 2: They lost to Oregon and then to Michigan. Yeah, but
43:20
Speaker 2: who's the quarterback? CJ. Stroud h the whole time, Yes,
43:25
Speaker 2: like that was the team and they somehow lost to
43:28
Speaker 2: That's amazing. Yeah, that's amazing. It's wild. It just goes
43:31
Speaker 2: to show you that college football is a lot different
43:37
Speaker 2: than the NFL. You think, Yeah, it's just you know
43:41
Speaker 2: that that's why college football has I've never been a
43:44
Speaker 2: big fan of college football because you know that word
43:48
Speaker 2: that you used a little while ago, parody. Okay, okay,
43:52
Speaker 2: So like University of Virginia can't compete with Ohio State. Okay,
43:58
Speaker 2: University of Virginia can't competat with Alabama. They can't. The
44:02
Speaker 2: payrolls aren't the same. Okay, well in theory, now it's
44:05
Speaker 2: if there's enough. It's like the Yankees, right, what are
44:09
Speaker 2: the what's the Yankees payroll now? And they just pay
44:11
Speaker 2: the luxury tax because they can pay through the notes.
44:14
Speaker 2: Imagine imagine Major the com the Royals, right Major, Imagine
44:17
Speaker 2: them compared to the Roles, but no luxury tax. Yeah,
44:21
Speaker 2: I mean that the Royals will have no chance. There
44:24
Speaker 2: you go, there's a look around the National Football League.
44:27
Speaker 2: We're gonna talk to the computer. Actually, we're gonna type
44:29
Speaker 2: something to the computer and then we're gonna get an answer.
44:32
Speaker 2: And former Jaguar quarterbacks is the category it is. I
44:36
Speaker 2: like it. How long are we going? How way? How
44:39
Speaker 2: far back are we going? A minute? Not too far? Okay?
44:44
Speaker 2: So recent you recognize this yeah, you recognize them. We
44:48
Speaker 2: got long hair. We'll come back in a moment and
44:50
Speaker 2: find out head down the stretch of Jaguars Happy Hour.
45:01
Speaker 2: Welcome back, It is Jaguars Happy Hour. JP Shadwick. Jeff
45:05
Speaker 2: Lagoman nearly fell out of his chair as we come
45:08
Speaker 2: back from this break. Hi, Jeff, you're good. I'm good.
45:11
Speaker 2: I don't need to go back that I was an
45:12
Speaker 2: armrest issue. I don't need you to have to go
45:17
Speaker 2: under the knife again. I'm good. Shoulders in the world,
45:21
Speaker 2: I'm all right. Wow, I'm glad you made it. I'm good.
45:24
Speaker 2: I love that. You know. Here comes another part of
45:29
Speaker 2: the program that you love. We go to the computer. Okay,
45:32
Speaker 2: and who are we asking? Microsoft co Pilot? Now, that's
45:37
Speaker 2: like a form of hey it is. It's what it is?
45:41
Speaker 2: What is the Jaguars franchise record for single season passing yards?
45:46
Speaker 2: Is the question this week? The answer you probably know it.
45:52
Speaker 2: Blake Bortles holds the Jaguars single season passing yards record
45:56
Speaker 2: with the four and twenty eight yards set in the
45:59
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen NFL season. Check out Microsoft co Pilot and
46:04
Speaker 2: the computer will talk back to you. Open the pod
46:07
Speaker 2: bay doors. How that's pretty cool. And Blake. Yeah, you know,
46:11
Speaker 2: and he still has it that Travers had two different
46:13
Speaker 2: four thousand yard passing seasons, including last year. And we'll
46:18
Speaker 2: see one day. They like to run the ball, but
46:20
Speaker 2: you're still here, right, so they breake it one day.
46:22
Speaker 2: I mean, how many What was the most amount of
46:24
Speaker 2: games that Blake played in a season? It's probably that
46:27
Speaker 2: years but no, no, no, me. I'm talking about like
46:30
Speaker 2: the number of games in a season. I wasn't sixteen
46:33
Speaker 2: back then. That's right, that's good point. Yeah, they changed,
46:36
Speaker 2: they added a game. Good point. So Blake has the
46:41
Speaker 2: record and it's with sixteen games. Yes, I mean, and
46:47
Speaker 2: here here's the thing. One of my all time favorite
46:51
Speaker 2: Jaguar quarterbacks is Blake Bortles. Loved him as a guy.
46:55
Speaker 2: Good dude. Yeah, tough as nails, the kind of personality
47:00
Speaker 2: that you wanted to have in your huddle. And uh,
47:05
Speaker 2: did he have the the prettiest thrown motion. No? Did
47:11
Speaker 2: his ball spin in a beautiful way? No? But he
47:17
Speaker 2: was just he's tough. I mean, he's tough. He was gritty.
47:23
Speaker 2: Guys followed him.
47:25
Speaker 1: Uh.
47:25
Speaker 2: There was a lot to like about Blake Portles, and
47:27
Speaker 2: and I wish we could see him around here with
47:29
Speaker 2: some of the alumni stuff. More. Yeah, because we don't
47:32
Speaker 2: ever see him he's in town. I think we gotta
47:35
Speaker 2: I gotta get him out and get him to come out.
47:38
Speaker 2: That would be interesting. I mean, you got to think
47:40
Speaker 2: about it. I mean when that it didn't end great,
47:46
Speaker 2: you know, not the way he wanted it. I don't
47:48
Speaker 2: think it rarely does, right, it never does, it never does,
47:52
Speaker 2: but you know, it is what it is. And again,
47:54
Speaker 2: like I said, one of the all time great Jaguar
47:57
Speaker 2: guys that you could ever have. And uh, I mean
48:02
Speaker 2: think about it. I mean, he made a huge fan
48:04
Speaker 2: of his a ton of money in the NFL. That
48:06
Speaker 2: second kind good for him, it's for him. I'll never
48:09
Speaker 2: forget and this is this is and I'm not saying
48:12
Speaker 2: this to slight him in any way. I'll never forget
48:14
Speaker 2: the first practice that I ever saw, man if I
48:17
Speaker 2: remember correctly, it was like a like a Roodie mini
48:20
Speaker 2: camp And uh at that rookie mini camp. I was
48:25
Speaker 2: standing next to Marcus Pollard and it was one of
48:33
Speaker 2: the very first passes that Blake threw in the practice.
48:36
Speaker 2: In it and I'm probably dating myself, but it looked
48:40
Speaker 2: like a Billy Kilmber throw, You are dating yourself, Okay,
48:44
Speaker 2: Billy Kimber. When I grew up, he was one of
48:46
Speaker 2: the Washington Redskins at the time quarterbacks, and uh, he
48:51
Speaker 2: wasn't known for spinning it tight. You know, it kind
48:54
Speaker 2: of wobbled a little bit, and Blake made it throw
48:57
Speaker 2: in this mini camp and what it did look very good.
49:01
Speaker 2: I mean it was it was, to be honest with you,
49:03
Speaker 2: it was bad. And I'm sitting next to Marcus though
49:07
Speaker 2: Marcus Marus looked at me, We're like, that's our first
49:11
Speaker 2: round pick quarterback. And obviously things got better because he
49:17
Speaker 2: had tremendous season, which is season record in passing yards
49:20
Speaker 2: and Jaguars history, and he led the team on a
49:23
Speaker 2: magical run that was absolutely incredible. And uh yeah, I'm
49:28
Speaker 2: a big fan of Blake's. We'll see if Trevor Lawrence
49:31
Speaker 2: can surpass him at some point in the single season.
49:34
Speaker 2: That he would, right, But you know, and the one
49:36
Speaker 2: thing that I always appreciated about Blake tough as nails
49:40
Speaker 2: and gritty, would built sacrifice his body to get that
49:43
Speaker 2: extra yard always, absolutely absolutely, that'll do it. Hey, what's
49:48
Speaker 2: coming up? NFL Annual meeting next week? The owners meetings,
49:51
Speaker 2: so that should know the Jaguars home game location for
49:53
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven by next week's show. No on site
49:56
Speaker 2: coverage for US from the owners meetings this year. Jeff
49:59
Speaker 2: will talk to you next week. You got Jeff Lockerman,
50:02
Speaker 2: J P. Shaddick, and thanks to Joe Fortunato, David, Joe,
50:04
Speaker 2: Brent Reaper. Thanks to you for watching and listening. It's
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Speaker 2: Jaguars Happy Hour.