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Sharri | 15 October · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Why on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry.
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Speaker 3: What is superb documentary. A huge congratulations to everyone involved
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Speaker 3: in this project, and particularly the former Prime Minister Tony Abbott.
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Speaker 3: Not only was he a strong politician, but he's an intellectual,
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Speaker 3: a gentleman and he's done a great service to our
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Speaker 3: country in documenting the history of our wonderful nation. And
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Speaker 3: I have to say that watching it does make me
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Speaker 3: feel proud to be an Australian. And I've got a
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Speaker 3: copy of Tony's book and I'm looking forward to reading it.
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Speaker 3: We're coming up on the show tonight, Michael Kroger goes
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Speaker 3: undercover at a pro Palestinian protest. He'll tell us what
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Speaker 3: he discovered. Shortly just into, Alan defends her states shocking
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Speaker 3: crime record and rips into a reporter who dared to
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Speaker 3: ask about school gender transitions and harmas is publicly executing Palestinians.
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Speaker 3: But the world doesn't seem to care be because they
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Speaker 3: can't blame Israel or Israel's diplomat at the United Nations.
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Speaker 3: Will be on the show live and let's stick with
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Speaker 3: that topic now. President Trump has vowed to disarm Hermus
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Speaker 3: if the terror group does not stand down, but the
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Speaker 3: bloodthirsty Islamist group shows no sign of surrendering. On the contrary,
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Speaker 3: it's been on a brutal killing spree of Palestinians from
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Speaker 3: the moment the ceasefire with Israel took place. There's been violence,
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Speaker 3: bloodshed and murder in Gaza. Shocking footage shows Hermas conducting
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Speaker 3: a public execution of Palestinians from rival groups that it
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Speaker 3: accuses of treason. Warning, this footage is distressing, and of
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Speaker 3: course we won't show you the moment of execution, but
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Speaker 3: you will see blindfolded men kneeling in a public square
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Speaker 3: before a firing squad. Palestinians gathered to watch, and there
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Speaker 3: were even some celebrations from the crowd. And about fifty
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Speaker 3: two members of a rival Doug Mush clan have also
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Speaker 3: reportedly been killed by Hamas in violent clashes. Now this
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Speaker 3: is Hamas trying to reassert control over Gaza. They're sending
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Speaker 3: a message both to Palestinians and the world that they're
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Speaker 3: here to stay. President Trump's only desire is peace, but
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Speaker 3: he's dealing with a barbaric terror group that's committed among
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Speaker 3: the worst atrocities known to humanity. It's not going to
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Speaker 3: suddenly change its ways, surrender and choose peace. And this
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Speaker 3: has always been the point. How can any international force
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Speaker 3: convince Humus to disarm unless they're eliminated by force and
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Speaker 3: the President has vowed to take action if required.
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Speaker 4: We have told them we want disarm, and they will disarm.
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Speaker 5: And if they don't disarmed, we will disarm them, and.
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Speaker 6: It'll happen quickly and perhaps violently, but they will disarmed.
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Speaker 7: Do you understand me.
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Speaker 3: Well, there's now a Middle East plan that nations around
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Speaker 3: the world have committed to disarming Hamas is part of
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Speaker 3: that path forward, So this is no longer only Israel's problem.
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Speaker 3: It would be great if America or even the Arab
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Speaker 3: nations went in and together disarmed him Us, rather than
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Speaker 3: leaving the dirty work to Israel alone, which only increases
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Speaker 3: antisemitism globally. Not to mention the sacrifice of brave IDF soldiers,
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Speaker 3: but if the world truly can about Palestinians, it will
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Speaker 3: protect them from her mus Yet, now that Palestinians are
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Speaker 3: dying at her Musa's hands, there's a strange silence, no
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Speaker 3: protests about it, limited media outrage, basically nothing from international
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Speaker 3: aid organizations and charities, nothing from the United Nations, nothing
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Speaker 3: from Antonio Goutera's nothing from the woke left world leaders.
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Speaker 3: Hypocrisy be thy name. But perhaps this is more sinister
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Speaker 3: than hypocrisy. Could it be that these organizations only care
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Speaker 3: about Palestinians when they can blame Israel for their suffering,
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Speaker 3: when they can blame Jews. If Palestinians are killed, and
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Speaker 3: they can't blame Israel, not a peep. Just like the
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Speaker 3: world has ignored the su in Sudan, Yemen and Syria,
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Speaker 3: we've seen no mass global protests. Australian journalist Aaron Patrick
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Speaker 3: asked Amnesty International, which has often criticized Israel, if it
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Speaker 3: was concerned about these public executions, and in response, he
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Speaker 3: was given a statement criticizing wait for it, Israel. Patrick
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Speaker 3: writes in The Nightly the blood letting on guards and
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Speaker 3: streets is an unpleasant reminder that the millions of people
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Speaker 3: who marched across the West on behalf of the Palestinian
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Speaker 3: people were indirectly helping Hermas, which is now free to
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Speaker 3: murder its own citizens at will, and no one seems
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Speaker 3: to care anymore. Perhaps it's, as the saying goes, if
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Speaker 3: you can't blame Jews, then it's not news. And joining
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Speaker 3: me now live in studio is Shadow Defense Minister Angus Taylor. Angus,
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Speaker 3: great to see you again with you. We're going to
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Speaker 3: come back to that topic in a minute, but I
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Speaker 3: want to start with James Patterson's oration, the Tom Qu's
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Speaker 3: oration last night, which has made big headlines today because
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Speaker 3: he accused the Liberal Party of spending too long dwelling
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Speaker 3: on itself and not moving on. Let's have a quick
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Speaker 3: look at what James Patterson had to say last night.
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Speaker 7: There is a time limit on this soul searching process.
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Speaker 7: We must do it now, at the start of the
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Speaker 7: term so that it does not drag on forever. An
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Speaker 7: ongoing mass public therapy session doesn't exactly scream ready for government.
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Speaker 3: That's hard to disagree with that, well, Angus Taylor, do
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Speaker 3: you agree that the Liberal Party needs to stop its
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Speaker 3: apology tour and soul searching and actually give the government
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Speaker 3: a run for its money.
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Speaker 6: I absolutely agree. Look, there's understandably a lot of grieving
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Speaker 6: even anger that I've seen out from our supporters and
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Speaker 6: others about the outcome in May, but we have to
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Speaker 6: get on with the job now of holding the government
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Speaker 6: to account, working on our policies and make sure we're
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Speaker 6: in a position to beat a bad labor government at
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Speaker 6: the next election. And that does mean filling the policy
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Speaker 6: vacuum over time, which I've done in my area. I mean,
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Speaker 6: we recommitted to three percent of DUDP for defense spending,
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Speaker 6: which is incredibly important at a time as uncertain as now.
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Speaker 6: But we have to do this across the board over time,
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Speaker 6: and that work needs to happen as quickly as possible.
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Speaker 3: You've just called it a policy vacuum. Hard to disagree
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Speaker 3: with that. But what I want to ask you is
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Speaker 3: you ran for leader against Susan Lee. She narrowly won.
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Speaker 3: If you were a leader right now, would you have
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Speaker 3: more policy platforms on the table?
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Speaker 6: God not Leader Shari. So I'm not going to go
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Speaker 6: with the hypothetical, but i will say it's important over
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Speaker 6: time to get our policies out there, to stay true
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Speaker 6: to our values, which was the point that James was
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Speaker 6: making above all, to focus on freedom, free enterprise and
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Speaker 6: the power of getting government out of the way for
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Speaker 6: businesses and people get on with their lives. The importance
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Speaker 6: of conserving our key institutions, the family, small business, the
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Speaker 6: nation itself, which is a big focus for me in
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Speaker 6: the defense portfolio, and that means rolling up our sleeves,
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Speaker 6: getting the work done. And I'll continue to do that,
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Speaker 6: certainly my portfolio every day.
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Speaker 3: He also spoke about not being farage light or going
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Speaker 3: too far to the left to the tiers. Do you
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Speaker 3: think there is a position, and this battle has been
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Speaker 3: playing out in the Liberal Party between the moderate and
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Speaker 3: the more conservative faction, do you think there is a
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Speaker 3: position in the middle where the party can unite on Well, I.
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Speaker 6: Don't think we should be anything light. I don't think
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Speaker 6: we should be labor light or any other light. I
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Speaker 6: think we've got to be liberal heavy, and it's those
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Speaker 6: that is that I just talked about. We've got to
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Speaker 6: be the Freedom Party, the party that conserves our core institutions.
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Speaker 6: And if we do that and put the policies out
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Speaker 6: over the coming months and years in line with that,
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Speaker 6: I think we can win the next election because this
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Speaker 6: is a bad government and I think Australians and many
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Speaker 6: of your viewers will be they're hungry for our values
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Speaker 6: to be articulated in important policies. As I say, I'll
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Speaker 6: be doing continuing to do that every day.
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Speaker 3: I mean, there are some thigny issues that are very
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Speaker 3: difficult to solve, like energy policy that zero. Those debates
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Speaker 3: have been going on for a long period of time.
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Speaker 3: Where do you think the party should land.
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Speaker 6: Well, we've already opposed bad twenty thirty five targets. We've
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Speaker 6: said we're not going to adopt targets that are unachievable
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Speaker 6: and destructive, and you know we should stay consistent with that.
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Speaker 6: We've also said that immigration got too high under labor
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Speaker 6: and it did, I mean on its own metrics. They
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Speaker 6: weren't even meeting their own targets. But as I say,
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Speaker 6: we've got to continue doing the work. We've got to
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Speaker 6: move on from the anger and the grooving and we've
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Speaker 6: got to provide the Australian people a real contest because
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Speaker 6: that's what they want.
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Speaker 3: It's what Australians deserve, quite frankly. Now, just to return
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Speaker 3: to the Middle East, you saw those comments from President Trump.
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Speaker 3: Now he vowed to remove HERMAS by violent force if necessary.
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Speaker 3: Do you think he's implying that we could see American
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Speaker 3: troops in Gaza.
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Speaker 6: Well, it's a good question, Shari. What I would say
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Speaker 6: is that this piece is not going to be sustainable
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Speaker 6: unless her MAAS is disarmed and neutralized. That is very
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Speaker 6: very clear. And some of the scenes you've just shown,
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Speaker 6: which are quite extraordinary, tell us exactly that.
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Speaker 3: So this is unlikely they're going to just surrender voluntarily.
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Speaker 6: Well, and of course in the twenty point Agreement there
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Speaker 6: is a commitment to a multinational force and I think
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Speaker 6: in reality that is going to be necessary. And Donald
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Speaker 6: Trump has said exactly that HAMAS is a brutal terrorist organization,
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Speaker 6: no you know that, but not coexist with sustainable peace
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Speaker 6: in the Middle East. It must be disarmed and neutralized.
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Speaker 6: And if it's not, we're not going to see the
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Speaker 6: outcomes we all want to see.
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Speaker 3: If there is a presence, would you think Australia should
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Speaker 3: join our allies like America, like we did against Isis.
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Speaker 6: Would we cent troops that I think the incredibly important
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Speaker 6: piece of this is to have the Arab States voicing
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Speaker 6: that piece. We know that is going to be the
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Speaker 6: most effective way forward. And what is so masterful about
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Speaker 6: what the United States has achieved here is that they
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Speaker 6: have engaged with successfully the Arab States to be involved
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Speaker 6: in this force. That is incredibly important in terms of Australia.
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Speaker 6: It's not part of the plan, and we certainly haven't
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Speaker 6: been asked that I'm aware of, at least to be
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Speaker 6: part of it. But we do need to make sure
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Speaker 6: we do our bit to make sure it succeeds. And
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Speaker 6: I've got to say, Shari, our government recognizing Palestine before
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Speaker 6: this piece was sustainably in place is just letely irresponsible
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Speaker 6: and he's not helping to get to the outcome we
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Speaker 6: need to.
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Speaker 3: What do you think about this hypocrisy of all the
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Speaker 3: aid organizations, most governments being silent on these public executions
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Speaker 3: by Hamas.
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Speaker 6: It's pretty extraordinary and that scene I saw it earlier today,
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Speaker 6: I mean to think that Hamasi is still doing this
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Speaker 6: sort of thing. We don't know all the details around it, obviously,
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Speaker 6: but that's incredibly brutal, and I think we all want
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Speaker 6: to see the end of that brutality. We won't see
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Speaker 6: the end of that brutality until we see the end
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Speaker 6: from us.
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Speaker 3: Very quick final question, because we're out of time. Tony
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Speaker 3: Burke says up to seven hundred Gazans could still arrive
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Speaker 3: in Australia from Gaza. Do you think this should go
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Speaker 3: ahead given there is now a ces fire.
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Speaker 6: Well, Charry, we've been deeply skeptical of the way this
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Speaker 6: government has brought people in from Gaza on tourist visas.
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Speaker 6: I mean they claim they have had the appropriate security checks.
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Speaker 6: I think there's real questions about that, and we are
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Speaker 6: going to continue to us questions. I can assure you that.
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Speaker 3: All right, I guess Taylor really appreciate your time. Thank
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Speaker 3: you so much. Former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger
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Speaker 3: went undercover at a pro Palestinian rally in Sydney on Sunday.
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Speaker 3: It's a protest that went ahead despite Trump already securing
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Speaker 3: a piece deal, despite a ceasefire already in place, and
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Speaker 3: Michael Kroger joins me, Now, Michael, what did you see
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Speaker 3: that surprised you at the protest? And also did anyone
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Speaker 3: recognize you?
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Speaker 4: Fortunately? No, I was in Sydney on the weekend and
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Speaker 4: I picked up the paper and saw that this demonstration
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Speaker 4: was on just down the road from where I was staying,
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Speaker 4: so I thought I'd go along and have a look. Charie.
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Speaker 4: It was. It was pretty disgusting. Not one Australian flag,
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Speaker 4: and I gather there hasn't been an Australian flag at
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Speaker 4: any one of these hundreds of Palestinian demonstrations, which is alarming.
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Speaker 4: I listened for about half an hour, for about half
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Speaker 4: an hour speeches, no condiment nation of Hamas hez Blah,
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Speaker 4: the Hooties or Iran, no condemnation at all, No praise
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Speaker 4: for Trump or the Arab leaders, the Muslim leaders for
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Speaker 4: the peace deal, no celebration that hostages are coming home,
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Speaker 4: that even the Palestinians were going to be released. It
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Speaker 4: was just a cesspit of hatred. I thought against Israel,
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Speaker 4: signs calling Chris Mins complicit in genocide, expelled the Israeli
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Speaker 4: ambassador f Israel. And then if you look closely at
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Speaker 4: the first.
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Speaker 3: Photo slide again.
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Speaker 4: We'll have a look at have a look at this
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Speaker 4: photo of Queer Sollari with Palestina resistance. We know why
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Speaker 4: that's utually absurd. But go back to that, Go back
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Speaker 4: to that photograph, because if you notice on that photograph
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Speaker 4: that the Queer Solilari with Palestine have put together, there
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Speaker 4: are seven Hummus triangles on that on that flag, on
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Speaker 4: that side, the inverted rate. Correct, now you're not trying
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Speaker 4: to tell me. You look at that, Okay, carefully hidden.
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Speaker 4: They might say it was just decoration. Well, you know,
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Speaker 4: if you're putting up seven Hammus triangles, someone would say, hey,
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Speaker 4: hang on there, how Mus triangles. We can't put them,
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Speaker 4: but they are deliberately there. Now. In Victoria, if you
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Speaker 4: put up a terror symbol, that is now illegal. So
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Speaker 4: I don't know whether that's illegal in New South Wales.
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Speaker 4: But if you display hummus signals and there's seven of
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Speaker 4: them there symbols, and there's seven of them there, That's
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Speaker 4: why I say that there are elements of this demonstration.
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Speaker 4: We're just hatred. I mean it was just hatred. And
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Speaker 4: then of course the channing from the river to the sea.
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Speaker 4: I mean, boy, you know, no Jewish person would feel
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Speaker 4: safe anywhere near that demonstration. It was quite frankly, it
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Speaker 4: was disgusting and it was half an hour, three quarters
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Speaker 4: an hour of my life. I won't get back again.
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Speaker 3: Well, you've done us a service at least to go
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Speaker 3: under cover. Trust you weren't recognize not too many Sky
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Speaker 3: News viewers there, I guess no, hopefully not all right,
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Speaker 3: I'm keen to get your thoughts and the clash between
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Speaker 3: Jacinta Allen, Victorian Premier and Federal Opposition leader Susan Lee.
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Speaker 3: Today have a look at this.
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Speaker 4: Melbourne has gone from the most livable city to the
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Speaker 4: crime capital of Australia.
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Speaker 1: That's just purely politics, right. We all remember when the
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Speaker 1: previous leader of the Opposition, when he was a minister,
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Speaker 1: he came to town making some of the most outrageous
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Speaker 1: claims about Melbourne and safety issues in Melbourne. So we're
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Speaker 1: seeing from the current leader of the Opposition that she's
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Speaker 1: following this same anti Victorian pattern of behavior.
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Speaker 3: And Michael Susan Lee speaking about crime isn't politics when
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Speaker 3: families are living in fear.
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Speaker 4: So Susan Lee was absolutely right. I'm very glad she
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Speaker 4: came here and pointing this out. Look, there's a poll
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Speaker 4: on the Herald Sun tonight, an article written by James
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Speaker 4: cam which points out Rowland will lose her own seat
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Speaker 4: and hopefully that is true. Victoria is not a safe place.
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Speaker 4: It's certainly not a safe place for Jews. As we've discussed,
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Speaker 4: there's not a safe place for anyone. Quite frankly, there's
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Speaker 4: a fellow arrested on Tuesday for carjacking and using a
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Speaker 4: fake gun around the Sydney pointing at people. Well, he
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Speaker 4: was out on bail for car theft. Alleged car theft
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Speaker 4: from two days before there was Sunday allegedly stole a car,
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Speaker 4: bailed and then on Tuesday he allegedly he carjacked two
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Speaker 4: other cars. So Victoria is the crime capital. Susan Lee
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Speaker 4: is absolutely right. Just Center Allen has lost any control
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Speaker 4: in Victoria and if we see her, say one more time,
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Speaker 4: we trust the Victorian police, et cetera, et cetera. No
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Speaker 4: Just Center on your watch. Victoria is an unsafe place
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Speaker 4: and if a premier can't guarantee the safety of fellow Victorians,
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Speaker 4: then she ought to resign and go.
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Speaker 2: Look.
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Speaker 3: The premier also ripped into the Australians journalist Rachel Baxendale
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Speaker 3: today when she dared to ask about the reports that
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Speaker 3: children will will be allowed to transition socially in schools.
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Speaker 3: This is gender transition without their parents' consent. Have a
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Speaker 3: look at this.
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Speaker 1: Transgender kids are fifteen times more likely to commit suicide,
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Speaker 1: I would hope Rachel, you're going to dispute the higher
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Speaker 1: rates of suicide amongst transgender kids. Rachel, I'm not going
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Speaker 1: to engage with you in a debate about the different
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Speaker 1: what is the different levels of the rate of suicide
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Speaker 1: amongst transgender kid I'm just not that is, that is
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Speaker 1: that is just so deeply irresponsible. And because the data
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Speaker 1: that I have, the data that I have says that
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Speaker 1: transgender kids.
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Speaker 3: Are Michael, shouldn't the Premiere be transparent and answer proper
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Speaker 3: questions rather than try and intimidate the journalist?
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Speaker 4: Sure, well, this is a technic Justindra Allen uses. So
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Speaker 4: she's asked specific quickly about schools not telling parents of
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Speaker 4: kids that there's transitioning going on at the school. She
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Speaker 4: turns into the debate, a debate about trans suicides. Terrible,
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Speaker 4: that is, that wasn't the issue being discussed When she's
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Speaker 4: asked about crime in the previous segment, she talks about
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Speaker 4: Susan Lee coming from Victoria and being anti Victorian. This
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Speaker 4: is the way Allan behaves, right, You're just on a
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Speaker 4: similar sort of topic. You vaguely, you know, change the
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Speaker 4: topic and go somewhere else, fill up the time, and
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Speaker 4: then go to another question. So that's what she does.
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Speaker 4: What parents are not being told by their schools that
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Speaker 4: their kids are transitioning? I mean, really, Premier, I mean
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Speaker 4: I would have thought that ninety nine percent of parents
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Speaker 4: would think that was a good idea for them to
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Speaker 4: be told. What's happened to their own kids, out of
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Speaker 4: their own line of sight. But this is what the
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Speaker 4: premier does. And if you thought Daniel Andrews wasn't much good, well,
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Speaker 4: you know, welcome to Jacinda Allen.
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Speaker 3: It's a change of government in Victoria is sprittally needed,
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Speaker 3: if only for the crime crisis. Okay, Well, Michael Kroger,
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Speaker 3: well done and going under cover, surviving the protest.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you never go back again.
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Speaker 3: But thank you for sharing the photos with us all
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Speaker 3: right after the break, proof that Kamala Harris could never
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Speaker 3: have delivered Donald Trump's peace deals as she accuses Israel
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Speaker 3: of genocide. Israel's diplomat at the UN joins me next.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back, and I'm joined now by Israel's United Nations
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Speaker 3: spokesman Jonathan Harrodoff. Good to have you back on the show.
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Speaker 3: I want to start with these comments by Kamala Harris
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Speaker 3: on MSNBC a few days ago.
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Speaker 7: Have a look, A lot of folks in your party
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Speaker 7: have called what's happening in Gaza a gymocide.
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Speaker 2: Do you agree with that?
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Speaker 5: I think that Listen, it's a it is a term
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Speaker 5: of law that a court will decide. But I will
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Speaker 5: tell you that when you look get the number of
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Speaker 5: children that have been killed, the number of innocent civilians
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Speaker 5: that have been killed, the refusal to give aid and support,
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Speaker 5: we should all step back and ask this question and
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Speaker 5: be honest about it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jonathan, do these comments indicate that she wouldn't have
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Speaker 3: sent those B two bombers to Iran or delivered Trump's
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Speaker 3: Middle East peace deal.
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Speaker 2: It's great to be with you again, Sharry, and this
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Speaker 2: interview took place a few days ago on the eve
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Speaker 2: of this historic hostage release deal that was pushed by
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Speaker 2: President Trump, and rather than rather than marking the enormity
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Speaker 2: of the moment and praising President Trump, the former vice
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Speaker 2: president instead opted to accuse Israel of genocide. It was
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Speaker 2: completely inappropriate at the very least, and suffice it to
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Speaker 2: say that I am delighted that President Trump is the president,
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Speaker 2: and that under his watch and with his close relationlationship
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Speaker 2: with Israel, the Middle East is no longer being dominated
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Speaker 2: by the Islamic republics and carmenies, ring of fire and
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Speaker 2: terrorist proxies, and that we can now look forward to
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Speaker 2: a regional future of peace and prosperity and not war
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Speaker 2: and chaos.
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Speaker 3: I want to ask you about the shocking video we've
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Speaker 3: seen of her mask conducting public executions of Palestinians the
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Speaker 3: United Nations. I don't have the figures.
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Speaker 2: Perhaps you do.
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Speaker 3: Have criticized Israel dozens and dozens and dozens of times.
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Speaker 3: Have you heard you work at the United Nations for Israel.
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Speaker 3: Have you heard a peep out of the UN on this?
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Speaker 2: Unfortunately, no, of course we haven't. We haven't heard any
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Speaker 2: sweeping statements of condemnation by the United Nations Secretary General.
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Speaker 2: And since Israel wasn't involved or even been accused of
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Speaker 2: being involved in these horrific executions, unfortunately, it hasn't garnered
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Speaker 2: much outrage at all in the halls of the United Nations.
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Speaker 2: But I think this goes back to one of the
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Speaker 2: major aspects of President Trump's twenty point piece plan, namely
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Speaker 2: the disarming of her master, demilitarization of Gaza and ensuring
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Speaker 2: that it can no longer inflict terror not only on
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Speaker 2: its own people inside as we see it continues to do,
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Speaker 2: but also on the world.
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Speaker 3: We've seen some world leaders, I mean Joe Biden, Anthony
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Speaker 3: Blincoln in the US, also our Prime Minister Anthony Albanesi
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Speaker 3: and Penny Wang takes some credit for Trump's peace deal.
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Speaker 3: They claim because they recognized a Palestinian state and this
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Speaker 3: gave momentum to the peace process. What's your view on this.
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Speaker 2: Less than a month ago, we saw a very different reality.
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Speaker 2: We saw many countries member states of the United Nations
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Speaker 2: take part in various circuses at the UN where they
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Speaker 2: were issuing these empty declarations and proclamations of statehood. They
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Speaker 2: were all patting each other on the back. Nothing actually
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Speaker 2: changed the grounds. Instead, what we saw was, you know,
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Speaker 2: this was the at the UN General Assembly, all of
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Speaker 2: these empty promises, empty statements to state solution conference convened
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Speaker 2: by France. The real action didn't take place at the
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Speaker 2: UN General Assembly. It took place a few days after
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Speaker 2: the UN General Assembly when President Trump and Prime Minisinnettania,
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Speaker 2: who unveiled this extraordinary plan at the White House, away
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Speaker 2: from the UN spotlight, and that's when we saw real
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Speaker 2: peace take place, begin to take place. But that's also
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Speaker 2: when we also saw many countries and many leaders begin
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Speaker 2: to flock to President Trump and try and take credit.
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Speaker 2: I do think that it's very important to have many
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Speaker 2: partners for peace in the world who are all invested
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Speaker 2: in making the Middle East and the world is safer place.
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Speaker 2: But not only when you know peace has already been
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Speaker 2: brought about. They must they should have been a lot
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Speaker 2: more involved at the beginning in order to bring about
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Speaker 2: this piece, not just at the end to take the credit.
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Speaker 3: Exactly, to wrongly take the credit when they had nothing
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Speaker 3: to do with it, and their action in recognizing a
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Speaker 3: Palestinian state, in my view, was only rewarding the terrorists
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Speaker 3: before any pathway to peace had been established. Jonathan, thank
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Speaker 3: you very much for joining us once again. Appreciate your time,
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Speaker 3: and thank you so much for your company today. Tomorrow
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Speaker 3: I'll be back at eight o'clock for the full hour,
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Speaker 3: so don't miss it and stay tuned yes for Murray