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Patriots Unfiltered 12/18: Ravens Preview, Injury Updates, Week 16 NFL Picks · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 4: are at the point now he's a or. We're trending
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  Speaker 3: Which one do you think the Patriots at better shooted
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  Speaker 3: to defend?
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  Speaker 2: I think earlier it was, oh gee.
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  Speaker 3: on my fun with calendars with Paul. Math not my strong.
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  Speaker 1: That's why I put my calendar out.
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  Speaker 4: You know, in the second half they maybe they could
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  Speaker 4: have used his energy a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 2: at Chills Stadium, and we're getting ready for the Baltimore
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  Speaker 2: Ravens Sunday Night, Sunday Night football on Andre and it's
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  Speaker 2: Evidence caul let's deuce. It's Alex as Fred, It's Alex
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  Speaker 2: and Matt in the booth. Well you have that extra person.
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  Speaker 4: Don't play mallet, but a boy in the booth.
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  Speaker 2: So what what's going on today? We got our market sick? Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's said, we got a new I guess lose a
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  Speaker 2: few people that are sick in Baltimore, I guess. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm going to talk about Patriots. Are our injury
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  Speaker 2: report has me worried?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, yeah da, So right off the bat, let's talk
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  Speaker 2: about that, sure about it?
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  Speaker 6: Sure call no robertsplane, which we kind of anticipated when
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  Speaker 6: he was in the walking boat yesterday. But also Christian
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  Speaker 6: Ellis too, another one who well.
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  Speaker 4: He is an illness So let's hope that that's not
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  Speaker 4: something that I'm not worried about mattling games. Yeah, but
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  Speaker 4: Marcus Jones and Carlon Davis. Yeah, Marcus Jones was in
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  Speaker 4: rough shape after the game, and so I think a
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  Speaker 4: lot of us like kind of clocked that and made
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  Speaker 4: note of it and then just beat up me. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: he was struggling to get his pads off and like
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  Speaker 4: was just kind of you know, in pain.
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  Speaker 2: Listen, like fairness that that is, like that the controversial
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  Speaker 2: play that he was involved in. I mean, both guys
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  Speaker 2: hit the ground hard. There was no like that guy,
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  Speaker 2: you know, bracing for a fall there. They were both
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  Speaker 2: you know, focused on the ball and that was it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That guy, I mean he played in the slot like
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  Speaker 4: that is here in a car crash every single week.
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  Speaker 4: So he's got a knee injury is the official designation there.
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  Speaker 4: Carl Davis has a hip. It was said in the
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  Speaker 4: game it was a groin. Now it's a hip.
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  Speaker 2: Connected, yeah, which worries me more so he's.
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  Speaker 4: Got he's got a hip and then well he has two,
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  Speaker 4: but he has one that's hurt. And then he is
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  Speaker 4: thank you, Harold Landry is still dealing with the knee
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  Speaker 4: thing like he's gonna play.
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  Speaker 2: Let's say, is what is that Brady right shoulder thing?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think Vrabel's been like this generally
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  Speaker 6: through the season.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll see today.
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  Speaker 6: I'm not going to get too worried just yet about
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  Speaker 6: some of these we'll see. I think he's liberally rested
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  Speaker 6: guys generally on you know, bar Moore has consistently been
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  Speaker 6: out Wednesday. I mean, definitely interesting and eyes will be
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  Speaker 6: peeled for when that injury report comes out today.
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  Speaker 3: But I put Landry in that category. I think he's
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  Speaker 3: periodically gotten some d nps at practice. He's certainly not healthy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not trying to say, oh, it's nothing, it's nothing.
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  Speaker 3: It's not Brady right shoulder, right, It's something he's dealing with.
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  Speaker 3: And I think he's missed some practice time. But I
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  Speaker 3: agree with Evan, I expect him to play. Jones and
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  Speaker 3: Davis to me are the ones that I would be concerned.
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  Speaker 1: If he had lose. I mean, you know, Chucky Trees.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, I had to pick a unit to be
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  Speaker 2: banged up for this game, would it be your defensive facts?
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  Speaker 4: I think corner, Yeah, I would be fine, Like if
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  Speaker 4: Carlon Davis can't play in this game, right, They don't
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  Speaker 4: really throw the ball. They're outside receivers anyways.
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  Speaker 3: But would you think about using one of those on
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  Speaker 3: one of the tight ends.
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  Speaker 4: I've thought that they might do that all year and
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  Speaker 4: they have it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, every game.
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  Speaker 4: That would have been my answer to every game they
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  Speaker 4: have they play good tight ends. I'm like, maybe this
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  Speaker 4: is the week they put Carlton Davis on the tight
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  Speaker 4: end and they never do.
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  Speaker 3: There's a play here or there, but haven't done it
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  Speaker 3: really consistently. But Marcus Jones and Jay Flowers to me,
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  Speaker 3: ye or two guys that I think could have seen
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  Speaker 3: each other quite a bit.
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  Speaker 1: And you don't really have a second slot guy. I mean,
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  Speaker 1: the next guy.
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  Speaker 6: Up after Chucky Trees would be uh, your guy Miles
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  Speaker 6: Battle from last year is the next on the list,
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  Speaker 6: and he's an outside guy too, So there really isn't
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  Speaker 6: a little quick, shifty guy to deal with, what you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, receiver? Yeah yeah, okay, So we have to keep
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  Speaker 2: our eye on the injury report. We'll have another one
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  Speaker 2: coming out today and of course after Friday's practice. Uh,
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  Speaker 2: and then Evan will have his Saturday update.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be interesting. You know, downgrades
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  Speaker 4: and travel and all that stuff. But we did see
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  Speaker 4: carl and Davis and Marcus Jones in the locker room
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  Speaker 4: and you know, they they look to be, you know,
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  Speaker 4: as good as you could possibly look walking through a
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  Speaker 4: locker room. So I hopefully that is just like a
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  Speaker 4: Wednesday maintenance coming off a tough game kind of day.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe not for Davis because he was hurt during the game,
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  Speaker 4: but for Marcus Jones.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think. I mean, I'm gonna say now, I
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  Speaker 1: Betpallin doesn't play.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'd be shocked if he like it.
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  Speaker 1: Like, you know, why do you say that, Well, now
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  Speaker 1: he's in a walking boot.
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  Speaker 2: We hadn't seen me.
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  Speaker 1: He was in the locker room last week yesterday.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that yesterday. It could be significant,
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  Speaker 2: could be you know, preventative.
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  Speaker 6: Just just keep mobile, balancing, you know, Like again, you're
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  Speaker 6: going against Derrick Henry in a really tough run game.
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  Speaker 6: It's it's just it's hard to see throwing Spolaine in
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  Speaker 6: there for what to get them further injured, and now
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  Speaker 6: you lose this game. I mean, these Jets and Dolphins
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  Speaker 6: games get even more critical. So I I'd probably back
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  Speaker 6: off and just like.
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  Speaker 2: In a moment of truth, if Rabel said I'd rather
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  Speaker 2: be healthy, you know, down the road, then you know,
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  Speaker 2: put it go all in for this game. Would you
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  Speaker 2: be upset at that? I'm not saying he's saying that. No, No,
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  Speaker 2: you know, I'm just no.
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  Speaker 6: I would understand it. I just I guess my question
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  Speaker 6: is with a guy like Landry and Spolaine, is how
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  Speaker 6: healthy can you get? You know, and how severe are
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  Speaker 6: these bumps and bruises which you know are I mean,
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  Speaker 6: with lander you could go all the way back to
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  Speaker 6: you know, Tennessee, New Orleans. So I mean it's, uh,
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  Speaker 6: you just don't know. You don't know the severity, you
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  Speaker 6: don't know what they're dealing with.
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  Speaker 4: It's like that seems to be land situation where it's
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  Speaker 4: like this is just a knee thing and it's not
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  Speaker 4: going to get remarkably better or worse. So we're just
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  Speaker 4: going to manage it during the week and he's going
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  Speaker 4: to play on Sunday.
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  Speaker 1: It's like the hockey thing where then this is just
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  Speaker 1: clean up. And also he had a puncture kid, he
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  Speaker 1: just had a procedure.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, now I do clean up that. You could see like,
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  Speaker 4: is it crazy to maybe start platooning that spot a
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  Speaker 4: little bit with Landry because he just hasn't been himself
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  Speaker 4: and he and he hasn't been as disruptive, and I
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  Speaker 4: just wonder if maybe playing a little bit less, like
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  Speaker 4: letting Ponder or Anthony Jennings or whoever, like play a
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  Speaker 4: little bit more at that spot and maybe you just
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  Speaker 4: use Landry like on third down or obvious passing situations
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  Speaker 4: or whatever.
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  Speaker 6: That was my question that was just like, well, where
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  Speaker 6: do you use him? Because it feels like he's missing
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  Speaker 6: some of the juice to to really get after the passer.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, you know, I found myself going back and
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  Speaker 6: forth thinking about that, being like, well, on one hand,
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  Speaker 6: I think he's a smart, tough player, and maybe you
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  Speaker 6: don't need the speed as much on the early downs, don't.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer is.
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  Speaker 4: It's I would play him on third down because I
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  Speaker 4: still think, you know, he has enough juice and enough
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  Speaker 4: kind of savvy yeah to win, But like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: playing him, you know, seventy eighty percent of the snaps
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  Speaker 4: on a bad knee. It's just a thought maybe they could,
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  Speaker 4: you know, give Ponder Jennings a little bit more opportunity
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  Speaker 4: out there and maybe Swinston's active for the game, you know,
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  Speaker 4: and and try to rotate that spot a little bit
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  Speaker 4: more because but they need more out of both him
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  Speaker 4: and Chase on than what they got against Buffalo. I mean,
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  Speaker 4: those two guys were really shut down against the Bills.
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  Speaker 2: So so Ryan and now Tucson has a couple questions.
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  Speaker 2: The first one he says is simple, are you emotionally
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  Speaker 2: prepared to lose this game on Sunday night? Why? Why not?
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  Speaker 1: Yes?
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  Speaker 4: Well, it's it's honestly not the end of the world
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  Speaker 4: if they lose the game. Now it's terror. You don't
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  Speaker 4: want to lose two games in a row and that
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  Speaker 4: whole thing, But it's the division and like playoff seating,
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  Speaker 4: it's really not the end of the world if they
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  Speaker 4: lose the game on Sunday.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I am I am? I actually,
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  Speaker 2: I just like you said, two in a row. You know,
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  Speaker 2: all of a sudden, we played the two good teams
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  Speaker 2: and we end up losing both to both of them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know emotionally if that's good for me.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I think leaning more into my historical
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  Speaker 6: perspective on the Ravens and the respect that I've always
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  Speaker 6: had for that team, whether it was Joe Flacco or
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  Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson. I was telling Paul I went back and
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  Speaker 6: looked at the last three games just to remember that
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  Speaker 6: twenty nineteen game, the twenty twenty game with Cam Newton,
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  Speaker 6: and then the mac Jones game was such an interesting
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  Speaker 6: cross section of like the end of the Brady era,
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  Speaker 6: that one twenty twenty year with Cam Newton, and then
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  Speaker 6: you know the mac Jones offense in twenty twenty two,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, just seeing kind of the different players
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  Speaker 6: pop up and say to Paul, I'm like, God, we talked,
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  Speaker 6: we spent we talk about these guys.
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  Speaker 1: All the time.
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  Speaker 6: And then you look back and I'm like, who is
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  Speaker 6: that fifty three? Like I don't you know, the guys
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  Speaker 6: have turned out enough to go back, But.
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  Speaker 4: How relevance does that game?
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  Speaker 7: Hatch?
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  Speaker 3: I don't pick enough to go back and watch the
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  Speaker 3: mac Jones games.
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  Speaker 6: I would say, Lamar Jackson appreciation is what it is,
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  Speaker 6: just you know, the player that he is and the
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  Speaker 6: cross section he was really coming in.
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  Speaker 1: No, they could they couldn't do anything, you know.
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  Speaker 6: But yeah, that I mean, That's where I'm kind of
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  Speaker 6: defaulting back to and I think the Ravens need this
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  Speaker 6: game more. They're they're seven and seven. They're chasing the
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  Speaker 6: Steelers right now. They're out of the playoff race right now.
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  Speaker 3: That's why I'm emotionally prepared to lose. It's more about them. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and Evan's right, it's if you had to. You don't
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  Speaker 3: want to lose two in a row. You don't want
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  Speaker 3: to lose any more games.
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  Speaker 8: I haven't done it all year either.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't want to lose. I'm not suggesting that, oh,
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  Speaker 3: this is that you can take your foot off the gas.
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  Speaker 3: Like back to the health of the team. I'm not
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  Speaker 3: sitting anybody who can play because this game isn't vitally important.
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  Speaker 3: I would worry with Spellane specifically. We go back to
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  Speaker 3: the Giants game when he didn't play a ton late
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  Speaker 3: in the game, and we all talked about in the
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  Speaker 3: post game. We didn't know why it was weird. He's
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  Speaker 3: always pretty much one hundred percent, and then that game
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  Speaker 3: was much less. You get two weeks off and he's,
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  Speaker 3: you know, dealing with a toe injury. You know, that
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  Speaker 3: was what came up on the injury report last week.
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  Speaker 3: Now it's ankle, Now it's his ankle and he's in
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  Speaker 3: a boot traveling, and I'm wondering if you know Evan
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  Speaker 3: threw something out And I actually asked Evan off the air,
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  Speaker 3: so Mike, this is not tattling on air like you
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  Speaker 3: did to me, just sort of throwing things out there.
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  Speaker 3: Do you think that maybe you know, he did dress
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  Speaker 3: out for the game, and we all kind of looked
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  Speaker 3: at his emergency purposes. But I wonder if maybe going
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  Speaker 3: through the pregame, and Evan said he did notice he
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  Speaker 3: was really hobbled in pregame. I wonder if he aggravated
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  Speaker 3: something or injured something in the pregame. And it's a
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  Speaker 3: whole different problem which would be to me far more
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  Speaker 3: significant going forward. If he could play, I would play him.
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  Speaker 3: But I don't know if that's the case right now.
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  Speaker 3: And I thought Mike re said just a little little
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  Speaker 3: minor thing when he tweeted he was like the last
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  Speaker 3: guy and is leaving and he says, lead them. You know,
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  Speaker 3: he's got a boot on, he's not going out to practice.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you don't.
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  Speaker 1: Like lead them, lead them, lead them?
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  Speaker 3: He said to as to.
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  Speaker 2: What's very dramatic, it is.
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  Speaker 3: It is very dramatic, very dramatic, I really and I
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  Speaker 3: agree with Mike. I don't expect to see spoiling play
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  Speaker 3: this week. Now. Maybe it's completely different. We're going to practice,
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  Speaker 3: he said, That's what I'm just Mike to me as one.
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  Speaker 4: You know that I love Mike. He't I'm not saying
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  Speaker 4: he made it up.
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  Speaker 3: I just no, one didn't do it. I know that,
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  Speaker 3: like this isn't brave heart.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 9: Was it also dramatic because of like what has been
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  Speaker 9: going through? Maybe maybe are we too far removed from that.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just trying to clear.
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  Speaker 3: Did not make it dramatic?
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  Speaker 10: Not?
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  Speaker 3: I mean, how else are you going to take that?
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  Speaker 3: But Mike just said that Spolaine wasn't going out to practice.
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  Speaker 3: He had the boot and as was leaving, he said
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  Speaker 3: leave them. That's all that. But that's all Mike did
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  Speaker 3: was just presented the facts. I think I sort of
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  Speaker 3: presented it a little bit more dramatical.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, like you like a bag of chips and
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  Speaker 2: he meant to say leave them, leave the chips.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I mean that honestly feeds into something that I mean,
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  Speaker 6: we said in that Bills game, maybe Spoleain could have
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  Speaker 6: made a play, But I Also he's been the heartbeat
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  Speaker 6: of that team in the middle.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, he's just kind of the leader of that defense.
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  Speaker 6: Is the first game they've had to play without him,
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  Speaker 6: and I I think that is significant.
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  Speaker 1: I think he is the leader.
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  Speaker 6: And you know when I caught that from Mike, you know,
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  Speaker 6: especially with Elis out of practice too, you know, they
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  Speaker 6: need somebody to kind of step up. And I wonder
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  Speaker 6: if that played into the fact they couldn't turn it around.
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  Speaker 6: You know, they couldn't make a play, they couldn't stop
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  Speaker 6: the bleeding. It just kept pouring and pouring until that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, Paul, when you go on your shows, you
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  Speaker 2: should you tell, you should say to like lead them,
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  Speaker 2: you know, next.
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  Speaker 3: Week before before I leave to go to my show,
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  Speaker 3: that's gonna be my meme. This is your show.
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  Speaker 2: That's a new meme. It was practice.
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  Speaker 4: That's literally it was yesterday yesterday?
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  Speaker 2: Is it even better Wednesday?
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  Speaker 7: Practice?
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  Speaker 1: I love heart of Players. That's great. You know, that's
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  Speaker 1: totally on brand with him.
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  Speaker 9: Intense explain Like I asked that man before we did
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  Speaker 9: the pet adoption event at training camp, like just softball,
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  Speaker 9: Like how fun is this to be? Having all these
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  Speaker 9: puppies in an adoption event at practice, and he's like, yeah,
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  Speaker 9: that's cool, but like I'm more excited about football, like
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  Speaker 9: it was the most.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah it was. That's him.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Well that's that's a good one. Okay, what else?
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  Speaker 2: What else do we have? I listen, I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to beat the dead horse here, but all this talk
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  Speaker 2: about who would you rather face in the playoffs, you're
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  Speaker 2: one of your places. NBC Sports Boston had a poll
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  Speaker 2: this morning. This is why I got triggered. You know,
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  Speaker 2: which team would you least or most or at least one?
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  Speaker 2: If I forget which, I think it's fans. We need
• 15:29
  Speaker 2: to push back.
• 15:30
  Speaker 1: On this stuff.
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: No, you need to put as fans.
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: It makes you I'm a fan, and I'm not pushing back.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: Well, I'm telling you right now, I need It makes
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: a fan base look weak if that's what they're worried about.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: Who should we or we shouldn't face? It makes you
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: look weak fans, So push back on it. Say we
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: don't care.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I want what's best for my media.
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: You talk about you care, don't drag us into your polls,
• 15:56
  Speaker 2: because we'll take whoever, whoever you know, whoever's our opponent.
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: That's who will be dramatic about that at all.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: Lead them so like think like me, yeah, so you're
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: back on this type of discussion. We're not afraid of anybody.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: Who do you want to face friends or not want
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: to face?
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: I had. This is so funny because I had this
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: exact conversation. Would Do says, we were going over to
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: the pro shop this morning, a very crowded passion.
• 16:31
  Speaker 6: By the way, if you're looking for rivalries gear, you
• 16:33
  Speaker 6: better get your butt down here.
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: Just god. But like, yeah, they were doing a rivalry refresh.
• 16:43
  Speaker 6: So if you've been shopping and you're just trying to
• 16:45
  Speaker 6: find rivalry gear, you know that it's not available anywhere.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: So the rivalry refresh happened today. Paul and I were like, hey,
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: let's go over and see what they got. You know,
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: with this stuff, it's great for Christmas presence.
• 16:56
  Speaker 6: And the line was literally like we're walking and we
• 16:59
  Speaker 6: can see it all the way out to like that
• 17:01
  Speaker 6: new overhang structure that's like out by the parking lot,
• 17:04
  Speaker 6: and I'm.
• 17:05
  Speaker 2: Saying that's like forty forty fifty.
• 17:08
  Speaker 3: It was at least fifty. It was fifty plus people deep,
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: I mean easily.
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: And I said the palm like is that for the
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: pro shop?
• 17:13
  Speaker 6: And then lo and behold you come around the corner
• 17:15
  Speaker 6: all the way in we saw uh you know Ariel
• 17:18
  Speaker 6: down there who runs the Hall of Fame.
• 17:19
  Speaker 1: She said, no, they've been lined up since eight and
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: eight o'clock. People were winding up.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, this was the Wow.
• 17:26
  Speaker 9: Eight pm, so that happens to come early for like,
• 17:31
  Speaker 9: I'm wondering.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: So Mike and I didn't get we.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: Could have thrown our way, I don't know, just to
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: be clear, we were.
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: Offered there, but we did not.
• 17:41
  Speaker 8: Do it would be like flashing his badge.
• 17:48
  Speaker 6: You know here Now, me and Paul are like probably
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: the most humble people in the whole the rivalry.
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: Gere especially humble of you to say immediately after, you know,
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: during the game that we wore them. And you know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: the way Nike does it, it takes a while to
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: get more stuff. So I guess they finally got it today.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering, and maybe some of our fans could confirm.
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: Does that mean that fanatics gout refreshed as well because
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: it wasn't available there?
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know so online.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: So for those people that don't live in the Foxborough vicinity,
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: maybe they'd like to go to Fanatics and check it
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: out and see if they've got a restock of our
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: rivalry gear.
• 18:25
  Speaker 8: I was able to get.
• 18:26
  Speaker 9: Well, this is probably different, but the rivalry RKK sneakers.
• 18:31
  Speaker 9: But Second Mark like stock exes. Technically is that a
• 18:34
  Speaker 9: second market?
• 18:35
  Speaker 10: What?
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Yes?
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: Stock x yes, yes, going down? What's that?
• 18:41
  Speaker 8: It's a big online retailer of sneakers.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Okay, how they're going to need to see you after
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: the show.
• 18:50
  Speaker 8: So secondary market. I would buy it for Fanatics if
• 18:52
  Speaker 8: I could, or.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: The pro show second black market. Secondary I got it
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: for my brother in law just like two weeks ago.
• 18:59
  Speaker 4: It's like when they have the like places in China,
• 19:01
  Speaker 4: they'll send you like knockoff pers.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Sure that great for that.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: So if anyone, anyone can confirm or tell us whether
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: or not Fanatics has Patriots rivalry gear, let us know
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: and we'll get the word out so people can rush
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: to their internet.
• 19:18
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, for sure. Now it's in demand. It's the
• 19:21
  Speaker 6: hot item. I mean even going to my wife's Christmas
• 19:23
  Speaker 6: party last week, people are like, where can I get stuff?
• 19:25
  Speaker 6: So it's way to Jiana I because I knew that
• 19:29
  Speaker 6: Lyndon had already told me that, like.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: A bunch of people would like hit her up of like,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: do you know where it could get?
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: So I was like, I should probably you know, with
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: the jacket.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, no, I don't know.
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
• 19:36
  Speaker 11: I left.
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: Just got there's number one of those humility exercises by you.
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I don't know, just demonstrating my dominance and being humble.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: A lot of the fanatics gear says almost gone underneath it.
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: So but wait, so there is some stuff there is.
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: There's a couple of the weather jerseys left, but they
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: all say almost going.
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: There's no apparel.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: What no apparel?
• 19:59
  Speaker 8: Sweat shirts?
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: I don't the bomber jacket.
• 20:01
  Speaker 9: All I see is T shirts. But it's not even
• 20:05
  Speaker 9: the Rivalry blue. They're gray, but it's still technically part
• 20:08
  Speaker 9: of the same line.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 20:09
  Speaker 6: That's what Ariel told us this morning, was that they
• 20:11
  Speaker 6: have stuff that isn't it's it's just kind of the
• 20:13
  Speaker 6: n E logo.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It's not actually right. So, I mean, there, it's almost rivalry.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: I want the authentic stuff.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: What will you get.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: A lot of people ask me for one of those.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm sorry. We just got an email about
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: talking overreach.
• 20:30
  Speaker 9: That's why I said the talking stick. We got a
• 20:33
  Speaker 9: talking stick, Well, do.
• 20:35
  Speaker 2: We have to do that? I mean, I might, I
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: might resort to that. No, you can't hear. You literally
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: can't hear.
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: You know what all the experts say, the experts. I
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: apologize sixteen times. I'm sorry. You know, I'm just talking
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: what fans are saying. If you want to call them experts.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Great. Now, Paul's upset.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: Say what you were going to say in school?
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: I forgot what I was going to say. Now.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I forgot more about radio than when people leave.
• 21:08
  Speaker 6: Well, I was gonna say, Fred, the shirt you're wearing
• 21:10
  Speaker 6: now looks kind of rivalry blueish, and and I've noticed
• 21:14
  Speaker 6: in the locker room and generally around the area that
• 21:16
  Speaker 6: I've seen more of that kind of blue around.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: So I think it's it started a little bit of.
• 21:20
  Speaker 8: A recency bias.
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: Maybe, Yeah, Curtis and Saint Louis says, fanatics says nothing. Nothing,
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: that's that's that's stinks. Come on, Michael, I wonder if
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: they ordered more stuff, because we're going to get it
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: talking to you went through the steps of trying to
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: get more stuff, and it was that much of a
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: delay between then and now.
• 21:37
  Speaker 8: Ye did they just get totally blown away.
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: With the they we didn't order enough.
• 21:42
  Speaker 8: They're creating the hype then, well yeah, kind of a
• 21:44
  Speaker 8: smart business.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: This is like, you know, creating the demand exactly.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: I mean the line, I felt like we should have
• 21:50
  Speaker 6: been out there like that video where it's like fast
• 21:53
  Speaker 6: sped up motion of like, I just love all.
• 21:55
  Speaker 9: The people that hated them at first, and they could
• 21:57
  Speaker 9: have got them right away, and now they love them
• 21:59
  Speaker 9: and they can't get any of it.
• 22:00
  Speaker 8: It's just all injected into my veins.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I I liked it from the moment I
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: saw it. I thought it was just soiled, distinct and
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: different and like it wasn't like Neon or you know,
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: in your face. I think it really represents New England's
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: yeah crumb ship. Yeah Jay and Indy says, I don't
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: care who we play in the playoffs. If you want
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: to be the best, you have to beat the best.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: If we are one and done, then we must not
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: be good enough. That's how I feel.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: That's how I don't mind.
• 22:31
  Speaker 4: The opponent thing is whatever, But the whole take now
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: that they'd be better off as a wild card team,
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: that one bugs me.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: Oh I haven't heard that one.
• 22:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, now, now it would be they'd be better off
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: losing the division and being the wild card team. I
• 22:46
  Speaker 4: assume thinking that they would be the five seed going
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: to Pittsburgh, and so that would be Pittsburgh is technically
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: the weakest team in the in the playoffs and so
• 22:57
  Speaker 4: but like to me, it's like, there's that's just totally
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: flawed logic, Like it's just a loser mentality, Like you
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: want to win the division, you want to host a
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: home playoff game. If you're the number two seed, then
• 23:10
  Speaker 4: you could host the home the wildcard round, the divisional round,
• 23:13
  Speaker 4: and if Denver loses, then the AFC Championship game. Right, So, like,
• 23:17
  Speaker 4: why wouldn't you want that? You want to go on
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: the road three straight times to try to get to
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: the super Bowl?
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: What do you want?
• 23:23
  Speaker 2: No, he's saying, if you're in to the number two seed.
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: Do you want something?
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: Do I want something?
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: Like?
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Who do I want to play?
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah? That's interesting. I agree with you everything you said.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Just why you think about these things? Yeah, I just
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: I'd rather the Buffalo and Denver have to play before
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: I have to play either one of them.
• 23:39
  Speaker 4: Right, I just don't understand the whole I'd rather be
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: all be and it all stems from Houston, Like everybody's
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: so terrified of the Texans, and right now is it
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: currently sits two seven is Patriots Texans, And so everyone
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: now is saying it would be better if they were
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: actually a wildcard team so that they could avoid the Texans,
• 23:59
  Speaker 4: which I think is like all sorts.
• 24:01
  Speaker 8: Of great defenses all year, it's short sighted.
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: So you're going to lose on purpose so that you
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: can get Denver or get that and get lucky.
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: You're eventually going to play Texans, so then you're going
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: to lose eventually. So I don't know, I just it
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: just I don't like that the narrative. I don't like
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: the discussion. It's to me, it's a waste of time.
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: I agree with the discussion of like it's fun to
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: break down which teams would present the biggest challenges. I
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: think that's but the whole lose to get the wild
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: card instead of the division spot, to me is just
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: as now.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: I like the discussion how do we get all home games?
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: To me, that's a whole different thing, Like you know,
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: how would we as the number two seed possibly get
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: an AFC championship here?
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, well you know what intrigues me a
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 24:55
  Speaker 6: I might be alone on this, but like I like
• 24:57
  Speaker 6: historical matchups, like repeat of historical match up things that
• 25:00
  Speaker 6: you can connect.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: So, you know, I like to the Bills.
• 25:03
  Speaker 6: That would be really exciting to me to you know,
• 25:04
  Speaker 6: get to see those guys a third time. And you know,
• 25:07
  Speaker 6: like especially imagine the AFC Championships here against the Bills,
• 25:10
  Speaker 6: you know, and.
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: They need to go through you. Like I would be
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: like that where it's like, you know, and nothing to
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: do with the teams.
• 25:17
  Speaker 6: But you know, I know they played Jacksonville and Houston
• 25:19
  Speaker 6: in the playoffs, but I don't know, I just it's
• 25:21
  Speaker 6: hard to get up, but like I would get up
• 25:23
  Speaker 6: for like going to Denver, like you've seen.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Those playoffs, you know, Like let's just say the Patriots
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: played the Bills in the AFC Championship game. What would
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: be the more intense feeling beating them or losing to them?
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: I think is more intense feeling losing than winning to
• 25:43
  Speaker 4: me as a relief.
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: Be better than the despair.
• 25:49
  Speaker 9: Uh you know.
• 25:50
  Speaker 6: I I want to say yes, but I always just
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: feel like generally the losses just kind of eat away
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: at you, and winning, like I don't know what e said, like,
• 25:57
  Speaker 6: just check the box like good one, forget about it,
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: moving on, like it's not like I bask in the
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: glory of So we beat.
• 26:04
  Speaker 8: Them here after everything we've been through the last couple
• 26:07
  Speaker 8: of years.
• 26:07
  Speaker 6: No, yes, you didn't even win a super Bowl.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: Okay, this particular year. If you knock off the Bills
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: to go to the Super Bowl.
• 26:20
  Speaker 8: That's poetic.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: That's better for me than losing to them, because who
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: thought we were supposed to even be there?
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: Who would have thought?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: And now we're nipping at their heels, we'll get them
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: next to you.
• 26:30
  Speaker 6: Oh, I mean that the tears would be funny because
• 26:33
  Speaker 6: I've been saying it along like this should be Buffalo's year.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: If I'm Buffalo, I'm like looking at the lot in
• 26:37
  Speaker 6: the at the field saying, who can't we beat?
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: You know, we got the best quarterbacks lose.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: To the Patriots in the AFC Championship game, and that's
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: an abject disaster for.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Buffalo or the more reason like the elations.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: Better absolute failure Like you were you were a lap
• 26:54
  Speaker 4: ahead of the Patriots, and the Patriots somehow caught you
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: and then knocked you out of the playoffs. That would
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: be mcdermom wouldnt like that would be an absolute abject
• 27:03
  Speaker 4: disaster if that were to happen.
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: Do you think it'd be the same if they went
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: to the Broncos and lost the Buffalo I mean, is
• 27:09
  Speaker 6: it super Bowl or bust this year for the McDermott regime,
• 27:12
  Speaker 6: or do you think they'll have some grace if they don't.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I think it's different if you if you lose to
• 27:17
  Speaker 4: the Patriots, because they hate the Patriots, like it hurts.
• 27:21
  Speaker 8: More, but it's still like, this is your chance, this
• 27:23
  Speaker 8: is your window.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but I think Nicks, I think it's different. I
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: think the Patriots being a division of rival and the
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: way they feel about the Patriots there in Buffalo, I
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: think that losing to the Patriots in the playoffs would
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: be that would be def con one.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, let's make it happen, all.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: Right, them my friends in the mafia tell me.
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: The Bill's mafia, Yeah, Brian writes in.
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: Friends in the Mafia, Evan running around with.
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: Paul is indicated in the past that he doesn't use
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: nicknames for the people he's covering because he feels uncomfortable
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: since he's not their friend. Therefore, I was hardened to
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: hear Paul refer to John Stryker several times last week
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: is stretch. I can only conclude that Paul has struck
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: up a friendship with Striker. I wonder if there is
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: a good meet cute story he can share with us.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I also wonder if coach Rabel ever joins them when
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: they're hanging out. Who knows, maybe we'll be hearing references
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: to Raves in the near future.
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: Is funny.
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: I never met him, never met Striker?
• 28:26
  Speaker 4: You've never met him?
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: No, I only met him briefly at the combine. I
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: talked him, not even hither.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's another tall guy.
• 28:35
  Speaker 8: He's around all the time.
• 28:37
  Speaker 6: I mean, I've never been honest, I haven't seen I
• 28:39
  Speaker 6: wonder locker room sometimes.
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: But so, but you're comfortable calling him Stretch.
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: I probably just made a mistake, everybody, But that's kind
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: of his name.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, No, I probably made a mistake. I do. He's right.
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: That email is one hundred percent right.
• 28:53
  Speaker 4: I think it's a different situation.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: This isn't like when I don't know the guy, I
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: don't generally call him by their nicknames.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 28:59
  Speaker 9: He knew his name was Stretched before we knew what
• 29:01
  Speaker 9: his actual name is like, he's very widely referred to
• 29:05
  Speaker 9: across the entire organization here as stretch.
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I think there was Mario Douglas.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I called him too, and I don't you don't call
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: him pop.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: No, until he came in and we kind of talked,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: and he said that was the because he was already
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: he goes. Everybody calls me pop. So I've been calling
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: him pop a little bit more often, but generally I
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: call him to Mario. It's like, don't really.
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: Talking about talking about pop.
• 29:29
  Speaker 4: Now we know him all that well, play pop more.
• 29:35
  Speaker 2: When we used to have the paper, I heard that,
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: thank you. When we used to have the paper, I
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: banned the writers from calling Parcels the big tuna or
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: Tuna smart.
• 29:43
  Speaker 3: That's because he didn't like him.
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: No, that's that's absolutely not true.
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: But but he doesn't like it, doesn't Well.
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: No one calls him that to his face, you know,
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: So I didn't think that we should in the paper smart.
• 29:59
  Speaker 4: That's fair. I wouldn't call like Vrabes in an article.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't write it that way.
• 30:04
  Speaker 3: It's just on professional people are asking questions of the players,
• 30:06
  Speaker 3: like we heard Rapes say earlier, that kind.
• 30:09
  Speaker 8: Of yeah, if you're not a player, I don't think
• 30:13
  Speaker 8: you should say rabes, rapes.
• 30:17
  Speaker 2: Let's see, uh, Klaus Herbert from Austria writes and first
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: time writer Justin and Patriots fan. Since the terrible loss
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: of Super Bowl what is that forty two? Yeah? Yeah.
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: In the beginning of the season, Evan especially was leaning
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: towards hiring Ben Johnson rather than Vrabel as a head coach.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: What's your opinion today close to the end of the preseason, Uh,
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: I think he made regular seats. Would some of you
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: think that Johnson might have been a better fit for
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: the Patriots than Vrabel?
• 30:52
  Speaker 4: They've both done great, so it's kind of hard to say, honestly.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I mean, I I think I underestimated how uh much
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: of a football mind Mike Rabel was until I covered
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: him and you got to be around it a little
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: bit closer. Even going back to uh his introductory press conference,
• 31:11
  Speaker 4: when he came in here and was talking, you know,
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: a little ball with us and stuff like that. I
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: didn't realize that he had that type of acumen. I
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: thought he was more of like a raw rock coach,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: you know, a guy that was going to come in
• 31:24
  Speaker 4: and set the culture and get the troops all rallied up.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: But I think he's a brilliant football mind and probably
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: underrated that a little bit with the Ben Johnson things.
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: So I think they kind of got They obviously got
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: the right guy, but I think that they you know,
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: I think, yeah, but Ben Johnson's really been a really
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: good coach for Chicago.
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: Also, Now, what's.
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: Their culture been like there?
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: Like, has it been as drastic he had such a
• 31:50
  Speaker 9: drastic turnaround here?
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, they're they're his
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: chops are obviously with designing offense and nex'es and o's
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: and I I don't know what their culture is, you know,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I'm not there, but I think that it's It's hard
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: to say because they've both done really, really well.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I think I think that if everything was reversed, if
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Rabel went to Chicago and Ben Johnson came here, Rabel
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: would have to bring a strong offensive coordinator with him,
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: because you've got that young quarterback that you're gonna have,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: and I don't know if that's the type of coach
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: Rabel is. And if Ben Johnson came here, you wouldn't
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: need such a strong offensive coordinator, but maybe you'd need
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: a stronger defensive coordinator.
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, And I think that that's really you know
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: why McDaniels has just been such a key hire for Rabel's, right.
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: You know, they kind of had the best of both worlds.
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: They got a type pans guy and they got you know,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: the head coach that can lead the troops. And you know,
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: I think that that's that's really good. But like I said,
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: I I think I didn't you know, I didn't cover
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: him when he was with the Titans, so I didn't
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: really know, you know, that in depth of what kind
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: of football mind he is. But like even I think,
• 33:01
  Speaker 4: you know, maybe not necessarily like offense scheming like Ben Johnson,
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: but like technique things like you know, stances and getting
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: off the ball and you know, different sort of things
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: like that that he is out there in practice and
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: we you know, watched a little bit of practice that
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: we get to watch it for Abel's like out there
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: like in a pass set, like showing guys stuff, and
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: he's out on the special teams field showing them things
• 33:25
  Speaker 4: and you know, he did it, he lived it. So
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I think that that element of him is much much
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: better than I thought, much more like Belichickian than I realized.
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: It's a nice It's in a good package too, Like
• 33:37
  Speaker 6: I find when he shares football knowledge, never it's never overbearing.
• 33:40
  Speaker 6: It doesn't he never gets into the weeds. I think
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: he just does enough to, you know, subtly show you
• 33:45
  Speaker 6: how much he knows.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Like that.
• 33:46
  Speaker 6: I've been surprised by it too, where he's able to
• 33:49
  Speaker 6: talk about a lot of different positions with you know,
• 33:51
  Speaker 6: with intelligence and experience.
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know. I love Mike Frabel,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't pick any other coach right now. But but
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson's done a great job.
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: There is still part of me that wonders, like, is
• 34:01
  Speaker 6: this always going to mesh well with him and Caleb
• 34:03
  Speaker 6: Williams because they're just they're both unique dudes. I mean,
• 34:05
  Speaker 6: you know, they both seem a little bit quirky. But
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: big game for them this weekend against Green Bay and
• 34:10
  Speaker 6: no chance for them to really cement their arrival.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Zach writes in with all the talk about how easy
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: our schedule is, I know it's making me a bit jaded.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: I actually want to face the hardest possible lineup in
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: the playoffs to silence all the haters. Houston and the
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: wildcard rematch against Buffalo in the divisional round, Broncos in
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: the AFC Championship game. Lastly a win over the Rams
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: of the Super Bowl to get our seventh ring. The
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: media and fans with this loser mentality needs to stop.
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: I like it. That's quite a path though, man, I mean,
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: you beat those three teams.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: That's carnage, that's I mean, that's not quite the same
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: as when the early dynasty. But when you're beating MVP,
• 34:49
  Speaker 6: you're beating an MVP in the divisional round, then you
• 34:51
  Speaker 6: got to beat another MVP in the conference championship round.
• 34:54
  Speaker 6: You know, back in those days when it was when
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: it was really hard. Those are memorable games too that
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: you know, the ones against like Houston and Jacksonville kind
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: of faded memory.
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: You know, it doesn't matter. Just like Paul Shows will
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: tell you that the twenty twenty four Celtics had an
• 35:08
  Speaker 4: easy path and that somehow puts an asterisk on the title.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: I did not celebrate that any lesson I would have
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: any other championship. Like if they win a Super Bowl,
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: you're not going to care who was in the way.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: You're gonna celebrated like they want a title no matter what.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: Now it only matter if they don't win. Sure, I mean,
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: if they win, who no one cares who they beat.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: But if they don't win, you'd say, she's if only
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: you know, Like like when I was in New Orleans
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: in ninety six watching the Super Bowl the first time
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I went, I never once thought she's we're here, But
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: she's pretty lucky that Jacksonville beat Denver for it, right right?
• 35:46
  Speaker 12: You know?
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, if you're the last two standing, you're
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: the last two standing.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: But if they lost to Denver, that would be like, jeez,
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: it's too bad. Jacksonville had them on the ropes last
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: week too. We would have beaten Jacksonville, just like when
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: the Patriots Indy and six. I know they would have
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: beaten Chicago in the Super Bowl, but they didn't get there. Right, yeah, right,
• 36:05
  Speaker 3: it's too bad?
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: All right? Eight five five patch five hundred is the
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: hot line. Let's see what people have to say. Who
• 36:12
  Speaker 2: are calling, will go to herm in DC. What's up herm? Hey?
• 36:17
  Speaker 5: How's it going? Fellows and ladies? Of course?
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: Hey?
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: Doing?
• 36:21
  Speaker 5: Okay, A quick question. I feel like there's been a
• 36:25
  Speaker 5: little bit of criticism surrounding Christian Zalees, and I wanted
• 36:30
  Speaker 5: to find out for you guys what exactly the issue is,
• 36:32
  Speaker 5: because I just looked it up. I think he played
• 36:36
  Speaker 5: six hundred and thirty seven snaps this year, and I
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: think he only gave it one score, so and I
• 36:43
  Speaker 5: believe it was maybe be palled. Yes, they cart me
• 36:45
  Speaker 5: if I'm wrong, that, matter of fact, might have been
• 36:48
  Speaker 5: on the day they lost to the Bills, had a
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: little bit of a criticism for Christian that his guy was,
• 36:54
  Speaker 5: I guess uncovered a lot that game. Yeah, so I
• 36:58
  Speaker 5: guess over My question is one, what's critiqueous around in
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: Christian Gonzalas And then the second question after you guys
• 37:05
  Speaker 5: was I'm not sure Obviously you guys as much guilty
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: of it, to be honest with you, So it's not
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: really directed towards you guys. But why the how can
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I put this? The I guess thirst to separate, not
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: separate might be strong, but to create some kind of
• 37:27
  Speaker 5: division between coach McDaniels or coach Brabel, right, because I
• 37:31
  Speaker 5: think we have to be careful when we do that,
• 37:34
  Speaker 5: because Eric the enemy left Kansas City and look how
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is looking right now, and then.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: Kelly warr the Eagles.
• 37:45
  Speaker 5: And look how killing Hurt is looking right now, right,
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: no questions.
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: I get your bigger point is, you know you don't
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: want h Drake May to get into that OC cell
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: that happens to a lot of teams. You want some
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: continuity there, you know. So, But the whole thing is
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: the premise is their division between Mike Rabel and Josh McDaniels.
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: That that's what people are trying to drum up. But
• 38:16
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's true.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know.
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: All I look at this is the proof and the pudding,
• 38:22
  Speaker 6: and I mean I think it would look. I think
• 38:25
  Speaker 6: they've done a good job though, building that staff and
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: you know, not just Thomas Brown and Ashton Grant, like
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: you know, two guys behind Josh that it feels like
• 38:33
  Speaker 6: they're trying to build back to what Bill had here
• 38:35
  Speaker 6: when you did lose guys that you have people you
• 38:38
  Speaker 6: know built in.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: But I just I don't know where Josh is gonna go.
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 38:42
  Speaker 6: It would be a really if there was division and
• 38:44
  Speaker 6: Mike Rebel didn't like him and wasn't happy with the
• 38:46
  Speaker 6: performance this year, it would take some major cajones to
• 38:48
  Speaker 6: fire a guy. That's basically put Drake May into the
• 38:51
  Speaker 6: MVP conversation. But hey, people love the soap opera and
• 38:56
  Speaker 6: that's part of following football.
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: Oh my god.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, there's definitely the soap operating to the Gonzales thing,
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: because I feel like that was directed towards me because
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: I've been kind of critical.
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: I think a little bit.
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: I think that where it stems from with Gonzales is
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: that I think he's a phenomenal player. And I've been
• 39:12
  Speaker 4: a Christian Gonzalez guy since the beginning. Uh Douce and
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I had him a number one on our big boards
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: when they drafted him that year. Both of us did.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: So I know that he's what he's capable the level
• 39:23
  Speaker 4: he is capable of playing at, which what I think
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: we saw last year was, you know, pretty close to
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: that ceiling. And I just don't think he's been quite
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: as good this season. Now, he didn't have a training camp,
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: he's had this hamstring thing, Like is it lingering? Is
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: that all sort of at play here? Absolutely could be
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: the case. But I would also say that I think
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: the great great corners make plays on the ball. They
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: don't just run with one guy and take the guy
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: out of the game. They're also turning the ball over,
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: they're making big plays on third down. You know, they're
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: making plays, are impactful plays in the game. It's great
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: that he can cover any receiver in football and he
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: can stick with that guy in man to man for
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: four quarters. That's a really valuable thing to have. But
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: I think to get to that next level, you'd like
• 40:12
  Speaker 4: to see him make some more plays on the football.
• 40:14
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like he did in the first Buffalo game, which
• 40:16
  Speaker 6: you know is an example of earlier in the season
• 40:17
  Speaker 6: when he did do that. But I don't think we've
• 40:19
  Speaker 6: seen it lately, and it hasn't been a murderer's row
• 40:22
  Speaker 6: of receivers that he's.
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: Been going up against.
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: And you know, I tie it to what Vrabel said
• 40:26
  Speaker 6: in these games, you need your best players to play
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: the best and he wasn't called on a lot, but
• 40:31
  Speaker 6: watch sitting in the press box. You know, we had
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: a little different view of it, and you can see
• 40:36
  Speaker 6: when guys are running away from him and getting open
• 40:38
  Speaker 6: and then you know, dropping passes or the pass was
• 40:40
  Speaker 6: too late and he bobbled it out of bound. So
• 40:41
  Speaker 6: you know, there were a few instances of that where
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: you know your your best player isn't isn't making plays,
• 40:46
  Speaker 6: and isn't doing anything to turn the momentum around.
• 40:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, we have an update about rivalry stuff. Oh
• 40:54
  Speaker 2: Josh and Turner Falls says that Dix has some stuff online.
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: Going to get a jacket as I already have a
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: jersey incoming, nice, so get online to Dick's Sporting Goods
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: and maybe he can get some stuff there.
• 41:07
  Speaker 6: I'd like to see the numbers for Drake jerseys that
• 41:10
  Speaker 6: they've sold to that thing, because I've seen everywhere and
• 41:14
  Speaker 6: he's number one in Pro Bowl voting, Like.
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: I imagine that those have sold like hotcakes.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Let's go to Alex in San Diego. What's up, Alex?
• 41:24
  Speaker 13: Hey, guys, what's up?
• 41:25
  Speaker 11: Happy holidays?
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: Do you all?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: Thanks?
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: Alex Hey.
• 41:30
  Speaker 13: I just kind of my friend brings this up to
• 41:32
  Speaker 13: me the other day and I was like, I didn't
• 41:33
  Speaker 13: even realize he was a free agent. I know we
• 41:36
  Speaker 13: are super thin, but thoughts on a potential Matthew Jude
• 41:40
  Speaker 13: on reunion. I love what he did for us. The
• 41:42
  Speaker 13: guy was a beast, but I know he hasn't been
• 41:44
  Speaker 13: the same players since leaving, and I just feel like
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: this would kind of be like a James Harrison type
• 41:49
  Speaker 13: of signing in like twenty seventeen. But yeah, just your
• 41:52
  Speaker 13: guys thoughts on that.
• 41:53
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he's Yeah, I don't think he's quite
• 41:56
  Speaker 6: the player he was. I just don't know if he's
• 41:58
  Speaker 6: like better than Anthony Jennings right now? Is what you
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: would need for him? If you could tell me that
• 42:02
  Speaker 6: he could come on and be a third down pass
• 42:03
  Speaker 6: rusher and have some juice off of the edge, I
• 42:05
  Speaker 6: would be interested.
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's that player anymore.
• 42:08
  Speaker 2: Is it true that he was literally the lowest ranked
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: edge rusher in the league.
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he has seven total quarterback pressures on the season,
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: and he's been playing a decent amount for the Dolphins.
• 42:20
  Speaker 4: It I just I don't really understand, Like I get
• 42:23
  Speaker 4: it's a recognizable name, but you also have to remember
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: on top of the fact that Judan is probably two
• 42:29
  Speaker 4: years removed from being what he was, Like it's a
• 42:33
  Speaker 4: totally different regime and defense like this is you know,
• 42:36
  Speaker 4: this isn't like Bill's still here and this is one
• 42:39
  Speaker 4: of the guys that he had a connection with and
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: is bringing back. So I just don't really from all angles, Like,
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I don't really see like what Vrables tied to Judon
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: would be. You know what, Judon's production has been really
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: the last two seasons, And like Elliot, Wolf deserves some
• 42:54
  Speaker 4: credit for getting a third round pick for him, because yeah,
• 42:57
  Speaker 4: because the guy's completely fallen off a cliff since the
• 43:00
  Speaker 4: Patriots traded up.
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Before the game.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: He was a great player for the pando but yeah,
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: it just it's he He hasn't been that guy in
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: a long time.
• 43:09
  Speaker 3: And he wasn't that guy with the Patriots when he
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: left either. Yeah, that's why I think that trade was
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: as remarkable as it was. They got a third round
• 43:17
  Speaker 3: pick for a guy who was clearly on the decline.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: Yep, Christian in La. What's up, Christian?
• 43:25
  Speaker 14: Hey you guys. Happy Happy Thursday and happy holiday season
• 43:29
  Speaker 14: to you guys. I'm a little worried. To be honest
• 43:32
  Speaker 14: with you, guys, I'm a little worried because there's some
• 43:34
  Speaker 14: things that this team needs to prove. This team needs
• 43:38
  Speaker 14: to prove that they have the mental toughness to bounce
• 43:41
  Speaker 14: back from an absolute collapse of a loss.
• 43:45
  Speaker 13: This team needs to.
• 43:46
  Speaker 14: Prove that Drake May can play in the cold. This
• 43:50
  Speaker 14: team needs to prove that Drake May can play clutch
• 43:52
  Speaker 14: ball when it's needed this team, and McDaniel needs to
• 43:57
  Speaker 14: prove that he can call a successful second half. Six
• 44:02
  Speaker 14: touchdowns six four sorry, four touchdowns, only four touchdowns in
• 44:07
  Speaker 14: the last six weeks. That seems to me like a
• 44:10
  Speaker 14: paper lion. That seems to me like the like a
• 44:13
  Speaker 14: team that made the playoffs a playoff.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: So question, let me ask you a question.
• 44:20
  Speaker 14: Hold on, Hold on a second. Brabel needs to he
• 44:23
  Speaker 14: can stop his ex best player, Derek Henry this weekend.
• 44:27
  Speaker 14: Brabel needs to so that he can call a complete
• 44:30
  Speaker 14: defensive game for once this season. And if we can't
• 44:33
  Speaker 14: do those things, god, I guarantee you, we're gonna limp
• 44:36
  Speaker 14: into the playoffs. I hopefully hopefully beating two teams that
• 44:41
  Speaker 14: would love to play spoiler before the playoffs, and I'll
• 44:44
  Speaker 14: against the player, you know, against the Patriots. And if
• 44:47
  Speaker 14: we can't do all that stuff, he's gonna go into
• 44:50
  Speaker 14: the playoffs and we're gonna get bounced in the first
• 44:52
  Speaker 14: round and then we're gonna get a high draft pick
• 44:55
  Speaker 14: could be made it into the playoffs, and then next
• 44:57
  Speaker 14: year we're gonna have that same regressive year Washington had
• 45:01
  Speaker 14: because they could not significantly improve about the draft.
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: All Right, we're getting ahead of a little ahead of
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: ourselves here, christ all right, so I agree if they
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: can't do all that stuff. But if the Patriots lose
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: this game, tight game, like by a point of two
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: or three points, how do you feel.
• 45:23
  Speaker 14: If they prove those things. I didn't say they had
• 45:25
  Speaker 14: to win. I said they had to prove something.
• 45:27
  Speaker 11: Right, Okay, lose the tight game, and that means.
• 45:30
  Speaker 14: The mental toughness was there to come back from the collapse.
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: Okay, at.
• 45:34
  Speaker 6: But what if they I mean, so if they do
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: it in this game, they've proved it and that's it.
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: That's the truth.
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: Now, if Drake may has one comeback, I just I
• 45:41
  Speaker 6: think you're asking for perfection right now, Christian, this isn't
• 45:44
  Speaker 6: a talented team to play that perfect.
• 45:45
  Speaker 14: I don't think it's not a one game thing. It's
• 45:48
  Speaker 14: how we play. Again, we don't have to win. But
• 45:51
  Speaker 14: if Drake may prove he can play in the cold
• 45:53
  Speaker 14: by having a good game in the cold, yeah, I
• 45:55
  Speaker 14: think he might be to be able to have good
• 45:57
  Speaker 14: games from now on in the cold. You know, if
• 46:00
  Speaker 14: if Josh McDaniels can somehow finally put together a second
• 46:04
  Speaker 14: half where we score a touchdown maybe or field or
• 46:08
  Speaker 14: take the ball for more than like two minutes. Yeah,
• 46:11
  Speaker 14: I'd be satisfied that we proved that he can do that.
• 46:14
  Speaker 14: If Brable can call a good defensive game whole game, yes,
• 46:17
  Speaker 14: I would be happy. We don't have to win, we
• 46:19
  Speaker 14: have to prove some things.
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: That makes sense.
• 46:21
  Speaker 2: So it's all gonna come to realization in this game.
• 46:26
  Speaker 14: I guarantee you guys, if this doesn't happen next week,
• 46:29
  Speaker 14: this team will be demoralized and will probably lose a
• 46:32
  Speaker 14: game because we tend to play down the team. You
• 46:35
  Speaker 14: guys know that, especially Miami. We tend to really play
• 46:39
  Speaker 14: down against Miami, and they would.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: Love to play against a lot of people we played
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: up this year. But now, okay, all right, thanks Christian.
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: He's impassioned, he's very I don't know if he's trolling us,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: but you know, no, it's reaction.
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: I feel like this, uh, for some people, them landing
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: ten games in was like a really bad thing because
• 47:03
  Speaker 4: I feel like the expectations for this season got really
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: really high because they of how many games they won
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: in a row, and like now all of a sudden,
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: like if they do what Christian's doom in gloom scenario.
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: Now the whole regime is up in smoke because they
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: they didn't end this particular season being the first one
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: under Mike Rabel with a super Bowl like you know,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: and so like now all of a sudden, it's an
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: abject failure, where like this was undoubtedly a success. If
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: they win the division this year, Yeah, there's there's no
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: like whether they win in the playoffs or not.
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: Right anymore, there is one thing that stuck out that
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: Christians said, if Mike Rabel can stop Derrick Henry, Like,
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: I know it's cliche to say, well, Mike Rabel isn't
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: out there, but what if Mike Rabel doesn't have the
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: horses to stop Derrick Henry? You know, like, are you
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: gonna blame that on Mike Rabel? I know, you know,
• 48:01
  Speaker 2: I think we have to be a little bit realistic.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: I have we should have hopes out you know, to
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: the moon, like I hope we win the super Bowl,
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: but we have to be a little bit realistic. We
• 48:12
  Speaker 2: are ahead of schedule here.
• 48:15
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna I'll say it now because
• 48:16
  Speaker 6: Paul loves you know, you tell everybody if I tell
• 48:18
  Speaker 6: you all week that the Ravens stink and then the
• 48:20
  Speaker 6: Patriots win. Well, the Ravens stung you. But so I
• 48:23
  Speaker 6: believe in the Ravens. I think they're you know, a
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: very good team. And if the Patriots win this game,
• 48:28
  Speaker 6: I mean spoiler, I'm probably gonna pick the Ravens. It
• 48:31
  Speaker 6: would prove a lot to me, to the Patriots to
• 48:33
  Speaker 6: be I think there's a really tough spot for them
• 48:35
  Speaker 6: to turn it around to get up for Sunday night
• 48:38
  Speaker 6: football on the road national audience.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: You just lost. It's asking a lot. And like one
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: more point I'll make.
• 48:44
  Speaker 6: Is I think they've shown twice this season that they
• 48:46
  Speaker 6: can bounce back a little bit from a loss. I mean,
• 48:48
  Speaker 6: you know, they did bounce back and go down to
• 48:50
  Speaker 6: Miami and you know, beat to it for the first
• 48:51
  Speaker 6: time down there, and you know, I know Carolina wasn't
• 48:54
  Speaker 6: exactly a Jugger or not, but they came home and
• 48:56
  Speaker 6: they held serve and that helped them go into the
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: Buffalo game.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: So there's just a lot that he's asking for in
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: this game. It seems like it's impossible to deliver, you.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: Know, And I kind of forgot about it, as bad
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: as Miami might have been at that time when we
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: beat them. We had never done that with Tua before,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: you know, like we couldn't beat Tua.
• 49:14
  Speaker 4: And any team or in Miami, right, and we did
• 49:18
  Speaker 4: and however.
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: It transpired, you know, however it came about. We we
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: ended up coming out with the w SO.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: And just to like illustrate how things have somehow changed
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: that now is now deemed to have been playing down
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: to a team, right, Like, I don't know what other
• 49:37
  Speaker 3: other people thought, Like what are the games that they
• 49:41
  Speaker 3: played down to? Because I think that any time that
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: there was a close game with these bad teams, which
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: there's been a handful, like the Saints, Oh, the Saints,
• 49:48
  Speaker 3: the Falcons, the Bengals, there's love the Dolphins that they played,
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: you know, played down to the Raiders, the lost right,
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: Like it's not playing down like you didn't you went
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: into the season thinking that they can make some progress
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: and have a chance to they should be able to
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: be to be able to take advantage of bad football
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: and win some of these games. Now when they only
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: beat one of these teams by a one score, it's
• 50:16
  Speaker 3: playing down to them, Like the roster hasn't changed, Like
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: you have the same amount of talent that you had
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: coming into the season probably less. So I just I
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: agree with Fred's premise, Like what, I get that your
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: expectations are rising. They should. They've won eleven games. I
• 50:37
  Speaker 3: feel better about the team today than I did before
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: the season started for obvious reasons. But that doesn't mean
• 50:42
  Speaker 3: they magically are better than everybody. They're playing better than
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: most of these teams, and that's how they were able
• 50:48
  Speaker 3: to beat Atlanta in New Orleans and Cincinnati and Miami
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: and these games that could have gone either way. They
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: played better than the other team when it mattered most.
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: I'm not gonna give up on the season if they
• 51:02
  Speaker 3: lose to the Ravens. Let me know which Ravens team
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: shows up. If the Ravens team shows up that that
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: played Pittsburgh two weeks ago, the Patriots are gonna win
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: because that team was disinterested and sloppy. They turned the
• 51:13
  Speaker 3: ball over five times the week before that in a
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: home game on Thanksgiving Night against Cincinnati. Patriots are gonna
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: beat that team. That's the team they've beaten all year,
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: the team that they make the mistakes, and the Patriots
• 51:25
  Speaker 3: are there to take advantage of the mistakes. If Baltimore
• 51:28
  Speaker 3: wants to play to its capability, the Patriots can play
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: a good game and lose because Baltimore has talent. To
• 51:34
  Speaker 3: Mike's point about this is going to be an impressive win,
• 51:37
  Speaker 3: let me know which Baltimore team shows up, because the
• 51:40
  Speaker 3: Patriots team that shows up, they're pretty much the same
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: team shows up every week. It's pretty good. It ain't great,
• 51:45
  Speaker 3: it's flawed, but they're pretty good consistently every week.
• 51:49
  Speaker 4: The other thing that's starting to irk me and I
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: did some research on this this morning, the whole fourth
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: quarter comeback thing, Like now, all of a sudden, that
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: is like what makes a good quarterback is you have
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: and it's such a like arbitrary, like you have to
• 52:03
  Speaker 4: be trailing in the fourth quarter and like you have
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: it has to be like you did it. Like so
• 52:09
  Speaker 4: like he doesn't get credit for Antonio Gibson's kickoff return
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: touchdown against Miami because because that is that's you know,
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: in the other direction, right, like that's a not a
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: Drake May touchdown drive, so it doesn't count. And then
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: like you know, last year he puts them up on
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: the Colts in that game against Anthony Richardson, he did
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: drive them down the field to score and take the lead,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: and the defense, gave it right back and they win
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: the game on the two point conversion, So he doesn't
• 52:36
  Speaker 4: get credit for that, even though he put them in
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: the position to win the football game. Then down in Tennessee,
• 52:41
  Speaker 4: he makes one of the plays of the year to
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: get them into overtime, and yeah, he threw the pick
• 52:46
  Speaker 4: in overtime that lost him the game. But like he
• 52:48
  Speaker 4: doesn't you know, like there's all this like context of
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: all these like situations.
• 52:53
  Speaker 3: My bigger thing for that whole narrative is that, you know,
• 52:57
  Speaker 3: give me the give me the dozen examples that he failed. Oh,
• 53:00
  Speaker 3: you can't because they weren't any Oh, I got it,
• 53:03
  Speaker 3: Like Sunday, they had a chance to do it. He
• 53:05
  Speaker 3: didn't do it. Okay, so that's it. He can't do it.
• 53:08
  Speaker 3: And Evan's right, that's kind of the narrative that's bubbling
• 53:12
  Speaker 3: under the service. Yeah, he hasn't had a lot of
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: chances to do it.
• 53:15
  Speaker 4: Right, So I actually did this because I'm a nerd
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: and this is what I do. But I broke it
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: up between like when did he have an opportunity in
• 53:22
  Speaker 4: the fourth quarter in a one score game to take
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: the lead or win the football game versus like last year,
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: you know, he's down to the Texans by two touchdowns
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: in the fourth quarter. Well, he didn't make a fourth
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: quarter comeback, you know, or even take any last year
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: as twenty three to three in the fourth quarter. Was
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: he supposed to come back for that?
• 53:42
  Speaker 3: Just going by this year, they've had the lead in
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: the fourth quarter of all these games. It's not like,
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's not his fault that he hasn't had
• 53:49
  Speaker 3: to come from behind. A matter of fact, it's to
• 53:51
  Speaker 3: his credit that he's had the position, that the team
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: in position to have the lead in the fourth quarter.
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: That's sort of the point I'm making is like it's
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: like we're talking about like three game games where like
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: you could have this argument that he didn't come through
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: in the clutch and that's supposed to dowt define him that, you.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Know, like, well it's a Christmas point. He does it
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: once and now he's proven he done it, and now
• 54:10
  Speaker 1: it's just.
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: That's I'm not going to feel any differently if they
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: do it. But let's say that they have the same
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: situation that they had against Buffalo and Baltimore down four
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: three minutes left and he doesn't do it, and then
• 54:23
  Speaker 3: they go to the playoff, same thing happens. Well, now
• 54:26
  Speaker 3: I might look at it and say, there's something missing there,
• 54:29
  Speaker 3: like give me a you know, give me a handful
• 54:31
  Speaker 3: of examples where he had a chance and didn't do it,
• 54:33
  Speaker 3: Like right now, to my mind's he's had one. Yeah, Sunday,
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: And by the way, it couldn't have come at a
• 54:39
  Speaker 3: worse time, in the midst of an epic collapsed by
• 54:42
  Speaker 3: the team. You know, momentum was huge at that time.
• 54:48
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and he doesn't get you know, the Week five game,
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: it was tied, So now that's not a fourth quarter comeback,
• 54:53
  Speaker 4: it's just a game winning drives. And now now that
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: you know, now.
• 54:56
  Speaker 3: He gets he's gotten plenty of points. He shot plenty
• 54:59
  Speaker 3: of points that one.
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: But but I just feel like we're just it's just a
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: very arbitrary like thing that just like sometimes lacks a
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: large sample size, would be like a lot of context,
• 55:10
  Speaker 4: like of like what was going on in the game.
• 55:13
  Speaker 6: Not entirely the same thing, but how do you feel
• 55:15
  Speaker 6: about that? It's like the narrative of Lamar can't win
• 55:17
  Speaker 6: the big one. You know, Lamar can't get the super
• 55:19
  Speaker 6: you know, it's it's different, but how similar lineful.
• 55:21
  Speaker 3: In nineteen when people started talking like that, I pushed back.
• 55:24
  Speaker 3: I don't push back anymore. Hasn't been in a Super Bowl, right,
• 55:29
  Speaker 3: and is the reason I do push back a little
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: with Josh Allen because he plays out of his mind
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: and this team finds a way to loose. Yeah, Like
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: that's not the same like last year. Everybody's like, well,
• 55:41
  Speaker 3: you know Mark Andrews dropped the two point conversion, Well
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: maybe if Lamar did turn it over three times, they
• 55:45
  Speaker 3: wouldn't needed the two point conversion to tie it. And
• 55:48
  Speaker 3: I love Lamar Jackson. I think he's a tremendous player,
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: but facts are facts. He hasn't been as good in
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: the postseason as he is in the regular season. Josh
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: Allen is he is. He plays just he's seven and
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: six or something like that in his postseason games, but
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: look at his numbers, Well, he's better in the postseason.
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: The thing with Drake is people want to right now
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: decide whether or not he's truly an elite quarterback, one
• 56:14
  Speaker 2: of the greats. Yeah, and they want the evidence, and
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: you're not gonna get it this early in his career.
• 56:20
  Speaker 2: You just don't know. I mean, as great as Tom
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: Brady was.
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: And people who were trying to go up the side
• 56:26
  Speaker 3: do it.
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: You know, as great as great as Tom Brady was
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: early in his career, there were some people that said, oh,
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: they extended him too early. Yeah, you know, we don't
• 56:34
  Speaker 2: know yet.
• 56:34
  Speaker 6: Well, it is the unfair, ultimate unfair comparison to compare
• 56:39
  Speaker 6: him to Brady, who had an innate sense, could kind
• 56:42
  Speaker 6: of do it from the get go, and that was
• 56:43
  Speaker 6: his superpower.
• 56:44
  Speaker 1: That's what to me made him the greatest of all
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: time was when.
• 56:47
  Speaker 6: The game was on the line, you knew that there
• 56:48
  Speaker 6: was nobody better and you were gonna have to bury
• 56:50
  Speaker 6: him twenty and.
• 56:50
  Speaker 3: His second start at home, his second career start at home,
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: he had an opportunity to do that, do you know
• 56:57
  Speaker 3: what I mean? Like, sometimes guys just have more chances
• 57:00
  Speaker 3: and whatever happens. And I'm not suggesting that May is
• 57:02
  Speaker 3: going to be better than Brady in crunch time, because
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: that would have to be significant, you know, to be
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: like those guys.
• 57:09
  Speaker 6: You know what's kind of funny, Like similar comparison is
• 57:11
  Speaker 6: Vinitari and Gostowski, where like Kestowski was never really put
• 57:14
  Speaker 6: in the position to kick the you know, he can't
• 57:17
  Speaker 6: kicked the game winner.
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: Well, he didn't have to kick.
• 57:18
  Speaker 3: It's a good example how he was was. But yes,
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: that was very, very similar. The first couple of years
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: of Gostowski's career, he didn't have those opportunities.
• 57:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah, and I think those six Chargers game, I was that.
• 57:31
  Speaker 6: I remember that one he nailed was good, wasn't you know?
• 57:33
  Speaker 6: They still had a chance. But same thing. You're spoiled
• 57:36
  Speaker 6: by venitary and his clutch ability to make kicks in
• 57:38
  Speaker 6: the snow, and you know, clock expires and we win
• 57:41
  Speaker 6: because House he wasn't really put in that position.
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: Earlier, Travis in West Virginia about Christian in LA, he said,
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: he's not trolling you. Stop. You've been brainwashed by boring,
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: uninteresting callers who regurgitate the same old talking points, so
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: you're unable to recognize the brilliance of someone with an
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: original and entertaining point of view. Wow, Chris says, shut
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: down the team, shut down, PU shut down everything. Our
• 58:06
  Speaker 2: draft pick is too late in the first round to recover.
• 58:08
  Speaker 2: I announced my fan hood. Mister Kraft, please submit the
• 58:12
  Speaker 2: paperwork needed to have the Patriots removed from the NFL.
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: We are only eleven and four. We obviously can't enjoy
• 58:17
  Speaker 2: this at all and need the freedom from the pain
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: of the season I want.
• 58:21
  Speaker 6: Actually, I'm pissed having off because I wanted to ask him.
• 58:23
  Speaker 6: I was looking at Cincinnati right now. I think they're
• 58:26
  Speaker 6: like four four and eleven, four and twelve something like that,
• 58:28
  Speaker 6: and like, to me, they're such on that cusp.
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: But like you're not going anywhere, Like wouldn't.
• 58:32
  Speaker 6: You like to get like into the top five, Like
• 58:34
  Speaker 6: I don't know, maybe put Buro out and you know,
• 58:36
  Speaker 6: like sit Jamar Chase out of it. I just thought
• 58:38
  Speaker 6: of him when I saw them in the standings, Like
• 58:40
  Speaker 6: what do they They're going to try to win this
• 58:41
  Speaker 6: weekend and like try to get.
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: Another elite weapon. Dana Virginia in Michigan. Paul isn't getting
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: enough recognition for shutting down Christian in LA and the
• 58:50
  Speaker 2: pregame show this past week. And he definitely needs more
• 58:52
  Speaker 2: flowers or maybe a new car. So no, listen, Christian again,
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: you brought it, got us talking, get people talking. That's great.
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: I don't have to agree with him.
• 59:05
  Speaker 2: But James Pettigrew, the most interesting Patriots fan of the world,
• 59:08
  Speaker 2: says to me, the window was open when we win
• 59:12
  Speaker 2: our for a super Bowl. We have dynasty windows here
• 59:14
  Speaker 2: in New England, not AFC championship windows like the Bills. Well, listen,
• 59:20
  Speaker 2: I think we have to reset though. I mean, you know,
• 59:24
  Speaker 2: I think it's it's almost disrespectful to expect us to
• 59:27
  Speaker 2: do what the dynasty did. Like if we get to
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: the AC Championship this year and we lost it, I'd
• 59:35
  Speaker 2: be very very excited about next year. Oh boy, like,
• 59:37
  Speaker 2: let's go, let's go.
• 59:39
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I would, I mean, I would just continue my
• 59:41
  Speaker 6: caveat of you've got to continue to really improve, and
• 59:45
  Speaker 6: you know now teams are going to be gunning for you.
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: And I don't want to overreact to the Bills game,
• 59:50
  Speaker 1: but there are.
• 59:51
  Speaker 6: Some places in that game where I said, you know
• 59:53
  Speaker 6: this guy that I felt okay with maybe during the
• 59:56
  Speaker 6: wind streak, you're starting to see that when you get
• 59:59
  Speaker 6: into crunch time, you're gonna need some more talent in
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 6: some more key spots.
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: And it's not their fault, Like this is the start
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: of the process.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 6: I think they did great in free agency in the
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 6: draft last year, but next year they might have to
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 6: be better with less resources and maybe a little bit
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 6: more targeted. And to the point of that last email
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 6: or you're probably going to be picking low, so you're
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 6: not for the first time since what like drafted you
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 6: know Mac Jones, I guess would be the first one.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 6: Like you're not going to have a top half of
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 6: the first round pick this year probably, and you're gonna
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 6: have to make the.
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: Best of it. Let's go to Kevin in Nashville. What's up, Kevin? Hey?
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 12: Can you hear me?
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 2: Yep?
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 12: I am honored to follow a crash out from Christian
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 12: in LA for my first call, so thank you for
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 12: taking it nice perfect. I got two questions, if that's
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 12: all right?
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 12: Wanted to ask this one a catch twenty two wasn't
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 12: able to call in yesterday. Regarding the Ravens defense, specifically,
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 12: how good Kyle Hamilton is kind of as a big
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 12: nickel for disguising the defenses. Given kind of the adjustment
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 12: struggles we saw from the offense last week in the
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 12: second half, are we concerned at all maybe medium cy
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 12: about Drake and kind of the offense as a whole,
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 12: their ability to I guess adjust to the fluidity of
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 12: Baltimore's disguised defense, And if so, what do we think
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 12: is the best approach for countering that you know, more
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 12: window dressing for our emotions to hopefully trick them, or
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 12: maybe take a progression approach to take some of that
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 12: pre snap reading pressure off of Drake. And the second
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 12: question is I couldn't recall if the pre and postgame
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 12: shows we're active for the twenty one loss in Buffalo.
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  Speaker 12: If we end up having to go on the road
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  Speaker 12: for the playoffs, which seems more and more likely as
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 12: we get closer to the end, are Paul, dust and
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  Speaker 12: Quantie going to travel with the team and do the shows?
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 12: And even more importantly, how much diet pepsi is it
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 12: going to take aull adjustice.
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  Speaker 2: Well normal here? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll stop the shows
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  Speaker 2: we'll do now if we go to the super Bowl,
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: it's all hands on deck. Yeah yeah, we'll do That's.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: Different usually live we do pre postgame super Bowl. Where
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  Speaker 1: does that work?
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  Speaker 3: So it's something that we're gonna have to talk about
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  Speaker 3: because we've never really we've never done a pre and
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  Speaker 3: post game I've never done it normal.
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  Speaker 8: Super Bowl in Germany, we flew back and we did
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  Speaker 8: it from here. Oh yeah, I forgot. You were in
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 8: there for the game.
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  Speaker 3: Seven thirty, which I mean that could be in play too.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: I don't know, but we've never been able to.
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  Speaker 1: Really, you're really hammering this deuce is never going to
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: super Bowl thing?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: No, you'll, you'll, you'll get the super Bowl experience. Well,
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: like Fred said, it's all hands on deck, every will.
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  Speaker 2: It was so tough because it's just to get into
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 2: the press spots and like now you've got to find
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 2: a space to broadcast from.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you need to be there hours.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's tough. And plus super Bowl has a
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 2: lot of pregame stuff going on on TV. You're you're
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 2: coming up against that. It's it's okay. I've never had
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: any complaints said, oh, you didn't have a pregame show
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 2: in the super Bowl. Never heard one complaint about that. Interesting, Yeah,
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: you made me do.
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  Speaker 1: It, like the day before the morning show.
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  Speaker 3: She'll do one, you know, maybe we'll do an extra
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  Speaker 3: one on Friday. Yeah, week I think we've even done.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 3: We did Saturday one week and we didn't like, we're
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 3: still mad at you for that. And Fred apologized about
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 3: ten minutes into the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, as you get.
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  Speaker 8: Close, how are the ratings on the Saturday?
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  Speaker 2: It wasn't good, But you try it.
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  Speaker 3: You try this on.
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  Speaker 2: As you get closer to the suit, like people are
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: like not focusing on you. There's so much going on much.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't worry nobody's listening anything.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: I'll do my best.
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  Speaker 6: I'll do my best to jump into Kevin's scheme question.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 6: Because Evan and I talked a little bit on the
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 6: on the pregame and the preview that we taped earlier.
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  Speaker 1: I think it is interesting.
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  Speaker 6: I mean, you know, by the numbers, the Ravens are
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 6: a man coverage, single high kind of team.
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: But you know, I think Paul said they.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 6: Got Gilman in, they drafted starts, so they have those
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 6: two high safeties now so they can put Hamilton in
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 6: the box, and I think that was a big part
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 6: of where their defense started to really get better. I
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 6: would just say generally, if the if the Ravens try
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 6: to play a lot of cover two like the Bills
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 6: did in the second half, the Patriots have to figure
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 6: out a way to run the ball. They got to
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 6: run on the light box and get them out of
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 6: the cover two. But I think it's a smart play because,
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 6: as Evin pointed out, Drake's superpowers pushing the ball down
• 1:04:19
  Speaker 6: the field and making those plays. Wish Evan was here
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 6: He talked to Kaishaan Budi yesterday about the you know,
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 6: the coverage in the second half, and he was kind of,
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 6: you know, lamenting that it, that it really hurt their
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 6: deep passing games.
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  Speaker 1: So I think they'll see more of it, even.
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  Speaker 6: Though the Ravens tend to play a little bit more
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  Speaker 6: up high, but they have the personnel to do it.
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 6: And you know, Kyle Hamilton going against Hunter Henry, that's
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 6: that's a good matchup for them. And I'd say the
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 6: same thing about Humphrey and Digs in the slot. You
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 6: know that those two guys can can stick, so they're
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 6: gonna have to find other ways.
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• 1:04:50
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  Speaker 2: What's going on? Yeah, that's true.
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  Speaker 6: Well, Will watching him living here today's.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, coach, It's it's awesome seeing him around. Anytime he's around,
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 10: it's it brings join to us. It brings Jorida the
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  Speaker 10: locker room and brings Jorda. See his face, see how
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  Speaker 10: he's doing. And I'm just praying for him. And he's
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  Speaker 10: continued to fight, and you know what a story, and
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  Speaker 10: it's been something for us to ride around him and
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  Speaker 10: somebody care about and another thing.
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  Speaker 1: Is just bigger than football.
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  Speaker 3: And uh, just.
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  Speaker 10: Props to him for you know, see me in here.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 10: A couple of times throughout the year, and it's been
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 10: it's been cool to see I.
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  Speaker 1: Know he's obviously works with the defense. Uh and is
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  Speaker 1: here what he cannedy, But do you guys have.
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  Speaker 5: Any kind of personal connection or something you talked about
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  Speaker 5: it with anything specific in your relationship.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I got to know his son well.
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  Speaker 10: He was around training camp a lot, so I know
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  Speaker 10: he's a big hockey player. And uh, it's been cool
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  Speaker 10: to for coach t just to some on the different
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  Speaker 10: side of the ball top to be able.
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  Speaker 3: To relate with in life.
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  Speaker 10: And he kind of we kind of told our stories
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  Speaker 10: kind of they get to know each other early on
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  Speaker 10: in the year, and you know, he had a great
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  Speaker 10: story and coming from his background, and I think he
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 10: relates their player as well. Everybody from I've talked to
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  Speaker 10: from was in Detroit and uh, Tennessee. Everybody loves him
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  Speaker 10: and he's easy to care about and and uh, I
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  Speaker 10: think he'd be awesome to have a round more. But
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 10: obviously he's dealing with with things that are I said,
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 10: bigger than football and just looking forward to having back
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 10: whenever that is. And I think he's like just brings
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 10: joy to the locker room.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 6: We were talking about the National Football League you're not
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 6: going to win every game.
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: What's your just general thought on a bouncing back at
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 4: you know, facing the adversity and how you go.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 10: About doing Yeah, I'll see the stings, you know, things
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 10: when you don't come up on the winning side. But well,
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 10: I try to learn in this league is it's onto
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 10: the next week. You know, the next week's you know,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 10: just as important as the last week and the week
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 10: before that, and it's every week is important and and
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 10: it matters. And just trying to play my best ability
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 10: and fix the things that I can fix and make
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 10: plays and try to fix plays that I wish I
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 10: had back and try to let not up and again.
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  Speaker 10: But at the same time, I think it's there's some
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 10: good things we did from last game, but also some
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 10: things we've got to improve on to be better down
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 10: the road and be better against the Ravens this week.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 10: And we had a tough challenge and they were a
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 10: good defense, and they're good football team with a great quarterback,
• 1:09:12
  Speaker 10: so they.
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: They're a tough challenge.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 10: And just trying to learn every week and store things
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 10: and I remembery ranked to use them again down the road.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 17: Right with I'm curious because you had your schedule time
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 17: time games and seeing who this was one where you
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 17: were taken out of the initial spot you guys were
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 17: in and moved to prime time where more eyes will.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 14: Be on you.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 17: Kind of is there an extra level of excitement to
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 17: know that you know they wanted you in that spot,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 17: they wanted the Patriots to be playing in that element.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 10: That's what you played for. That's what we're trying to
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 10: play for for for many years down the road, trying
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 10: to be the team that you know, people want to
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 10: see you at night and people want to see when
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 10: the only game on is us. That what you want
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 10: this environment to be. That's what you want the newly
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 10: one Patriots to be playing on night games that matter
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 10: and you know home playoff games, and that's what we're
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 10: building tours and working tours, and that's one of the goals.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 10: So we're keep trying to get there and do whatever
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 10: we can to get there. And it starts in practice
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 10: out here today and tomorrow and each and every day.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 10: I think it's one of the tough things at the
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 10: end of the the thing is Week sixteen. You know,
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 10: it's trying not to battle in that kind of tailing
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 10: off and taking shortcuts just try to keep going and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 10: do things a little more, study a little more, do
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 10: a little bit more after practice, just to try to
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 10: make up for the sixteen weeks that you put on
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 10: your body and know that these weeks are the weeks
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 10: that you play the last fourteen games for.
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: Gick, do you expect to see some of the things
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: that those were successful doing to teat you.
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 17: Mostly in the second half, other teams try to copy that,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 17: and if you've been working to kind of work out
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 17: whatever those issues.
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 10: Were, well, I'm sure teams try to do whatever other
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 10: defenses try to do to quote unquote you know, stopped
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 10: us or felt like worked. So you try to not
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 10: over overlook that and realize that these teams are going
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 10: to be who they are. And I practice all year long,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 10: but you never know until you really get out there,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 10: and it's not the football and see but you obviously
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 10: we're trying to work on things that we can can
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 10: role and control on details and me making throws and
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 10: better ball placement and better decisions, and that's what we
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 10: can control and let the rest toward yourself out.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: You care about the MVP conversation, You.
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 10: Know the MVP is it's obviously, uh you know, one
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 10: of the big accolades for for this league, and it's uh,
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 10: you know something that you know, it's the honor as
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 10: a player to you know, earn their award and respect
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 10: me all the pass m vps. But I think at
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 10: the end of the day, you'll win. The super Bowl
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 10: is the biggest thing, and I think it's what kind
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 10: of makes makes this league go is is winning the
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 10: big one, and that's what you work towards and that's
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 10: what this game is about. You know, I love winning,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 10: and you know the personal acolades come with all that,
• 1:11:41
  Speaker 10: but I'd rather win than than win, you know, personal awards.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 10: And I hope you know, people in that locker room,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 10: I know a lot of them feel the same way.
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 18: Say Scotty report when you can't one more time, this
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 18: is scouting report on.
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 10: Yeah, lay with my last year in college. He's a
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 10: great guy in the locker room. He's good on the edge,
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 10: he's fast, he's uh, you know, played inside a little bit.
• 1:12:02
  Speaker 3: He's played on the edge.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 10: He played inside of Florida State, if I remember in
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 10: college and now you moved to the edge when you
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 10: got North Carolina.
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 3: So I know he's with you.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 10: Know, Vegas and you know, good to see him back.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: And I think.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 10: Everybody's just trying to suit, you know, just to help us,
• 1:12:17
  Speaker 10: whether it's you know, on game day or throughout practice
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 10: or you know, whatever you can do.
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 3: I know he's gonna work hard, and I know he's
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 3: got good work.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 2: I think great, but win.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: The Long Bowl opportunity potentially to stay.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 6: Do you ever have to play against you were on
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 6: with tendency to you know, to take a shorter.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 10: Easier Yeah, that's what I've been battling, you know, probably
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 10: since college. Since college, I was you know, more down
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 10: the field and it's not even you know, trying to
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 10: force that is kind of the offense I was in
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 10: and the backs weren't getting out.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: They were more blocking in college.
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 10: So I'm just trying to take to take the plays
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 10: that the defense gives me and realize that, you know,
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 10: moving the chains and uh, being in second and four
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 10: versus second and ten is better.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 3: So just challenging that.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 10: But at the same time, you got to get defense,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 10: you know, on his toes for not squad on routes
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 10: and let him know that we can hit one over
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 10: their head.
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: We're going to tramp to the design runs in the
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 4: red zone last week. Just how did that kind of
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 4: come about?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 18: And you know, how do you feel about doing that
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 18: a little bit more with.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 10: Yeah, we tried them previous weeks. They just haven't worked,
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 10: you know, as well as they did on Sunday. So
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 10: it's something that makes it, you know, even down there
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 10: when you know, when it gets tighted, it's eleven and eleven,
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 10: and it's something that you can gain an extra hat
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 10: versus you know, me just handing it off and watching.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 10: So something you can use. But also you gotta be
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 10: smart and these defenses are are good and now these guys.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: And now great moments in.
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  Speaker 2: History final one. Outside of football, I am also an
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  Speaker 2: author mar tell Us parent No Home Out. I care
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  Speaker 2: deeply about my charitable foundation. That could be right? Yeah
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  Speaker 2: what Eric, who doesn't know?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah never mind?
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  Speaker 3: Why never mind?
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 2: Eric? And I have a slutty cat and I like
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  Speaker 2: to eat sawdust.
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  Speaker 3: What Eric SkELL nowod cat?
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  Speaker 2: Good?
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  Speaker 1: Cody good?
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  Speaker 3: Screw your Cody.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't know about your cat.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, real slut. No, he doesn't let the cat in.
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  Speaker 2: I mean that's the problem. It's not really his cat.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Do let her in, but it's not your cat. Well,
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  Speaker 2: she's just a stray. I just take care of it.
• 1:14:21
  Speaker 2: But why don't you just take her in?
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: I do let her in.
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  Speaker 2: I mean make her your cat, make you your cat.
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  Speaker 3: I don't mean just like Cody, if you were here,
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  Speaker 3: I would beat the crap on it.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 19: You know, great game Cody, good joke like he's trying
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 19: to play you know, you know, yeah, either board games
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 19: with him.
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: I mean, make you shut up, to make the cat yours.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 2: Give the cat a home.
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: She has a home. She got chewed up. Ears, Well she's.
• 1:14:50
  Speaker 19: You called her she was a stray and now she
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 19: lives in my house. She lives in your house now,
• 1:14:55
  Speaker 19: so you did take her in, yes years ago? Fred, Okay,
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 19: that's not the cares. Yeah, you got out of the shop.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 19: What's the cat's name?
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: That's not going to you.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 2: You don't have a name because you didn't take it.
• 1:15:06
  Speaker 3: I did have me.
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  Speaker 2: You don't have a name.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 11: Cat.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: I do have a name.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 3: And told I've told you before, and you all like Meg,
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: what is it? No Mozart Mozart Mittens said, of course.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: I said that which motive you did?
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 2: Which which movement of.
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: I hate you all that?
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: Oh what happened? Are we are? We on the air?
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 6: We are on the air, Fred, and it's time for
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 6: the co Pilot Question of the Week, presented by Microsoft Copilot,
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  Speaker 6: where every day is Game Day and where every decision
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  Speaker 6: is powered by insight and innovation. Microsoft technology helps to
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  Speaker 6: make decisions faster, insight sharper, and strategies more adaptive. A right, guys,
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 6: we're talking to Ravens this week, Paul, is a little
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 6: bit directed towards you.
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 1: How many times did.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 6: The Patriots and Ravens have to play before the Ravens
• 1:15:53
  Speaker 6: finally beat the Patriots? This, of course nineteen ninety six
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 6: Cleveland and Baltimore, So starting in nineteen ninety six, how
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 6: many times did they play? Patriots won quite a few
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 6: of the first round of the first matchups?
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: How many? And what was the first Raven's victory over
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: the Newland Patriots?
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: What was the first Ravens victory over the Patriot there?
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: Start there? Memorable one?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 3: Was it the playoff game in nine?
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, wow, good, Paul, thirty three fourteen?
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: That was that was how long it took.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say the Ravens won seven. I mean the
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 3: Patriots won seven in.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: A row, bow close five five, five times?
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: So ninety six, forty six, thirty eight.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 20: Exactly, ninety nine, yep, twenty to three correct, Jesus, uh baby,
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 20: it's rainy, rainey.
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to think. Was it
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 3: three or old four? I'm gonna say, oh, four, right,
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 3: And that ended up being a blowout because there was
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 3: like a Jarvis Green fumble recovery in the end zone.
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 3: Twenty four, yes, yes, again.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: You got two more, probably got four. This one's pretty famous, okay.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: Seven at Baltimore Rex Ryan time out.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: Barscott throwing the flag into the stands.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: Game ends with a Kyle Bowler hail Mary. That fell
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 3: about four yard show that completed, that fell about four
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: yards short of the end zone. I can't think of
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 3: the score of the game though, but Gerbard Gaffney lay
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: touchdown to win it. I just can't think.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: Twenty seven four one more, one more?
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 3: All right, So that was seven. I'm gonna say they
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: played in the nine regular season right here?
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 2: Correct?
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: Might it have been a wouldn't have been the second
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 3: iteration of Dion Branch No, not yet, No, I can't
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 3: think of it again. The twenty seven one, twenty seven
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 3: it's a Derek Mason game. Is that the game where
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: look at the scoreboard, Mason, that was there.
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 2: You go out right?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: This was like, shut the bleep up, Mason, look at
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: the school boy.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: I just set this one up and you knocked it down.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 6: Paul, that was I think that might have been my
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 6: most impressive performance by you.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: I thought you'd remember the ninety six one.
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 6: I didn't think you get the exact score two bless
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 6: so twenty five for thirty nine three ten four teddies.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 3: Why do you think I remember the game?
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 1: That's try to him up for that.
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: Wigham may have had a block punt return for a touchdown, Yes.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 1: Bruski, I think maybe they were get him a touchdown block?
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: Correct this guy, look at the brain on Brad. I
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 1: never run to the locker room so I.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 8: Can get any more power to run all the time.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: You got to check on the boys.
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 2: I have to leave them twelve minutes. You know I'll
• 1:18:38
  Speaker 2: be back.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: What is it when you come back. I have a
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 3: bone to pick with you about yesterday's trip to the
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 3: locker room, but I'll wait till you come back.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: Oh boy, reporter, So what we're going to do in
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 2: twelve minutes takes them? You get a vibe check takes
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 2: you two minutes to get there, two minutes to get back,
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 2: So now he has eight minutes.
• 1:18:54
  Speaker 8: And that's if they let you in on time. Right,
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 8: you might be sitting outside going in there.
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 3: I'm a little word about it.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: He just waves, it's.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 8: A reporter social hour, exactly.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 2: Exactly who's in there working.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give Fred more logs to throw on
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 3: the fire. So yesterday he comes in. Basically, Wednesday is
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: just to check in with Steph Dicks. Okay, right when Mike.
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 9: Rights and I had to talk talk to Marcus Jones
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 9: about something too, So there's a little meaning.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: But I mean yesterday he Wednesday is when he goes.
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: It's generally because Diggs talks every Wednesday.
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 2: Has to hold the mink.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 3: How was how was Diggs? Now? Diggs, I think for
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: the first time showed a little sign after a loss.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: I think he did that. He did fine. I'm not
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 3: trying to make a Felgrin maz out of it, but
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 3: there was a little sign of you know, I think
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: he said bleep, you know, I don't know, like I
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: always want the ball or you know, he got back
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 3: to saying like we have a lot of good players
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: and we gotta you know, we gotta find a way
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: to get you know, everybody. But but you know how
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 3: the questions were about how are you dealing with maybe
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: a lesser role, limited plan time, and he kind of said,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: you know, it's been an adjustment. Mike didn't really give
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: us any of that that stuff. I heard all those
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 3: quotes when I was on the radio later. So that's
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: the bone I have to pick with Douche.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 2: Yes, let's do it. Let's do it.
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 9: When those dig scrums are packed, they're intense, Like most
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 9: of that, you're just holding your hand praying.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 3: Really hear what he says. Yeah, That's happened to me
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: millions of times.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 4: It's tough spiing.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 2: Fresno writes in I'm in lockstep with Paul's takes and
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 2: how he arrived at them. Regarding the different reasons for
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 2: Lamar and Josh Allen's postseason losses, Evan's annoyance ari complaints
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 2: about Drake's lack of comeback charges in Crunch Time is
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 2: justified if he's responding to people who think the case
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: is closed on Drake's ability there. The case is not closed.
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 2: Like I wrote yesterday, Drake is zero to one but
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 2: Evan is out of his mind skewing things to view
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: Drake positively. Now when he discounts the real importance of
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 2: late game comeback charges, name me three great Super Bowl
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 2: winning quarterbacks who didn't consistently lead those throughout their career.
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 2: I'll spot you one, Aaron Rodgers.
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 3: I was going to say, they only have one and
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: that's it. Yeah, he's the only one who won a
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 3: Super Bowl and really wasn't great in those situations.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 2: No, I agree with Spie. Great quarterbacks are usually made
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: great by those moments. I agree, you know, so you
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 2: have to have those moments in your career. But again
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 2: we're not.
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 3: Even getting I thought Speed gave those details. Yeah, it'll come,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 3: He'll have chances to do it, and then we'll you know,
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: then we might change, you know, hopefully for the better,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: but you know, if it's not, then you got to
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: sort of change the way you look at things.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 2: Curtis and Saint Louis correct me if I'm wrong. He says,
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 2: if the Patriots win the next two games and Buffalo
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 2: loses at least one, that's the earliest the Patriots can
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 2: clinch the division. That is correct, that's correct. Second question, outside.
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 3: Of other wards, A win for the Patriots this week
• 1:22:08
  Speaker 3: and a loss for Buffalo does not clinch the division.
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 2: Right. Uh. Second question, outside of Drake May, which player
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 2: that was on this team last year has taken the
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: biggest leap?
• 1:22:21
  Speaker 3: Which player that was on it besides Drake May?
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 2: Besides Drake Man.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a great year. I don't know if it's
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 8: that big of a leap, but I.
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 3: Think he I think that's a good one.
• 1:22:33
  Speaker 2: I think he's gotten the most recognition certainly now.
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: I think that's a good one. Maybe Booty, Yeah, that's
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 3: a good one.
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 2: That's a real good one. Yeah.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 3: But I like Marcus Jones better than Kashawan Boody. Not
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 3: the player, I mean saying the example as this as
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 3: the bigger leap. I was trying to think of who
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: else was around last year that's played really well.
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 9: I think Marcus has done a lot for his reputation
• 1:22:59
  Speaker 9: as a defense under two. Like he was always like
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 9: just really like revered for what he does in special teams.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 8: But I think he now has a lot of respect
• 1:23:08
  Speaker 8: as a slot corner.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 3: I know I can speaking just for myself, I would
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 3: say I would put myself in that category. I have
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: not necessarily been a huge believer of him as a corner.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 3: I think he's had a really good year as a
• 1:23:19
  Speaker 3: corner this year.
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that covers it in terms of guys
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 2: who were here last year and making significant leaps.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just looking at the rot you know, like
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: the names of all the you know, Stevenson, Henry, He's no,
• 1:23:37
  Speaker 3: no huge leaps there. You know, a when who's been better,
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 3: but no huge leap.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: What's going on with Hooper and his production?
• 1:23:45
  Speaker 3: Hooper at the tight ends have sort of kind of disappeared.
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 3: I wonder about his because remember you had to miss
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: a little time with an injury. I wonder if he's
• 1:23:54
  Speaker 3: banged up a little bit too. But he's had a
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 3: good year. Hooper's had a good year lately. No, he's
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 3: but Henry didn't do anything lately either.
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 8: Teams like paying more attention to the tight Ends or something.
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 3: That's what I'm thinking is they're getting defended a little
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 3: bit because.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 9: Last year a Hunter and Hooper where I think I
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 9: think the end of the year is the best tight
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 9: end tandem. So I don't know, maybe they were just
• 1:24:15
  Speaker 9: getting more attention or.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 2: Could be, but usually you know, earlier he was good
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 2: for like those Yeah, you know two catches a game
• 1:24:21
  Speaker 2: that were you know, for sure key catches. I'm not
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: seeing that now. Nelson's in La. What's up, Nelson?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 3: What's what guys?
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 12: We're doing good, man, We're doing good.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 2: Bro.
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 12: We lost this week, but I'm excited for the next
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 12: game coming up. Like you're saying, I'm not trying to
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 12: hide for no team. Let's get it going.
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 3: On, right, We're gonna get going.
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 3: I like hearing your your radio.
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 5: You know, all the time.
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 11: I hear you.
• 1:24:52
  Speaker 3: I can't call it the time because I work nice shoes,
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 3: but I hear it all the time.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 2: Though, got to pay the bills.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: I hear you, yeah when we're here, and you can
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 3: always listen to us later that podcast.
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 2: But you know, think don't don't get it wrong.
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 14: I haven't been calling, but you know I hear you
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 14: all the time.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep, that's great. Appreciate that, Nelson. You've spread the
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 2: word too out in LA. Thank you for the call.
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 2: Kyle has an over undergame. Uh while we wait for
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: Duce to get back in five minutes, I'm only kids.
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 2: Drake May passing yards two hundred and fifty and a
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 2: half over over.
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 8: Under, Oh, three hundred yard game, that's right.
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 2: Drake May passing touchdowns two and a hay under, well,
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 2: I said, I'll say over, he's getting three Hundre's gonna
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 2: have some rushing touchdowns too.
• 1:25:38
  Speaker 3: Oh well, that's passing touchdown.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's why I say I like by saying
• 1:25:43
  Speaker 2: under two and a hey, doesn't mean.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 8: The receivers back involved.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, Henderson rushing yards seventy five and a hay Henderson,
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say under, I'll make.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 8: Like one play and get that. Yeah tricky, I know.
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, he got me on that. Two weeks ago. The
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 3: number that we had was like sixty four and a half. Yeah,
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 3: and like his last carry of the night it went
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 3: twenty six yards against the Giants and you got sixty five.
• 1:26:13
  Speaker 2: There you go, like sounds a killer. Yeah, I think
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 2: it's gonna be split. So I'm gonna say under, Henderson
• 1:26:21
  Speaker 2: rushing touchdowns one and a hay under Yeah, Henry rushing yards,
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 2: Oh for them, I'm gonna hunter Henry Derrick Henry rushing
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 2: yards seventy five and a hay.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 3: It's a good number.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say O say over.
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah, right around that he's gonna have a huge.
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 8: Was last week his first hundred yard rushing game in
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 8: a while or something.
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: I can look that up.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: While you're looking that up, total score forty five and
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 2: a hay over.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 8: Over.
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say under based on what my score prediction
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 2: is going to be.
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, So he's had a few like he had
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 3: ninety four the game before that, then he had sixty
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: sixty four in those two games between, and then one
• 1:27:13
  Speaker 3: O three seventy five one nineteen seventy one two. So
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 3: he's been back and forth a little bit.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: And Kyle's prediction is Patriots thirty one seventeen. Love it.
• 1:27:25
  Speaker 2: There you go. Let's see uri rites in uh first
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 2: of Forromos, Happy Christmas. We get into that time right
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 2: almost there? What what's today? The seventeen eighteen?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 5: Wow?
• 1:27:40
  Speaker 8: Less than a week or years?
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: Ready, it's a week from.
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 3: No, I am ready?
• 1:27:44
  Speaker 2: Are you ready? You're all set?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:27:45
  Speaker 2: I got When you say ready.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 8: Is all set?
• 1:27:48
  Speaker 3: I got no, I got everything wrapped already.
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 2: What about food?
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 8: You wrap th food personally?
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 2: I bet you. He's a good rapper.
• 1:27:55
  Speaker 8: I just are you good at it?
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: I am not?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 19: Well?
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 8: I saw what Evan has for Yankee swap and the
• 1:28:01
  Speaker 8: way it was wrapped it.
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 2: And it's you already saw his present.
• 1:28:04
  Speaker 9: Yeah, he made me bring it up to run. No,
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 9: I didn't see the present. I saw the rape.
• 1:28:07
  Speaker 2: But you now know which one is his?
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: That's true.
• 1:28:11
  Speaker 9: I want to know because I don't want to pick his.
• 1:28:13
  Speaker 9: It could get stolen from me.
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 2: Anyways, you don't know what to know who brought what right?
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: Isn't that part of it? Yeah?
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 9: But when he sits next to me and he's lazy
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 9: and doesn't want to walk up to the suite to.
• 1:28:24
  Speaker 3: Drop it off, he really is the fact that he
• 1:28:26
  Speaker 3: even lies.
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 2: He was like, Matt is you know?
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 8: He was like, are you going to bring your gift?
• 1:28:31
  Speaker 8: I was like, yeah, I'm going to take a walk
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 8: up there. He's a great Is he going to come?
• 1:28:34
  Speaker 8: He's like no, but I want you to take mine.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 3: Yes, Mike and I this first thing this morning.
• 1:28:38
  Speaker 8: We're both excited to get drop steps in and.
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 3: There was a bunch of.
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 2: Yuri's question, is is there any possibility the Dynasty uniforms
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 2: two thousand to twenty eighteen make a comeback, maybe as
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 2: the throwback uniform.
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  Speaker 9: No, how far removed from I feel like maybe in
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 9: like twenty years.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's way.
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  Speaker 3: Too I don't think you. Yeah, I agree with you.
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  Speaker 8: And what's mad? How like it has to be like
• 1:29:07
  Speaker 8: another generation?
• 1:29:08
  Speaker 2: I feel like before to me, the current uniforms are
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 2: too close to those. Yeah, we're like you have to
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 2: get away from that to throw back to it. I
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 2: don't know, I don't even know what I'm saying. Let's
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: go to Eldred, North Carolina. What's up Eldred?
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  Speaker 11: Hey, fellas lady, how you doing good? Eldrim off today?
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 11: Ain't in the truck? Good for you cut me off yesterday?
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 11: But it's cool.
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  Speaker 14: But I was going to ask, if.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 11: You meet with Josh McDaniels, can you ask him why
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  Speaker 11: you always throw deep to a slow receive and you
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 11: got somebody on the side to run the four two
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 11: or four to three and he never shooting a shot?
• 1:29:47
  Speaker 3: Who would that be? Who are we talking about?
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 11: We're talking about when you throw it to number thirteen.
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 11: But you got Kyle Williams sitting on the sideline.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: They dialed up a couple of deep shots to Kyle
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: Williams on Sunday. He was covered and they weren't able
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 3: to execute him. But they I would say conservatively, they
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: dial up a deep shot to Kyle Williams once a
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 3: game they give they give him a shot that there
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 3: was a play in this game that was coming toward
• 1:30:17
  Speaker 3: our side, the press box side that end zone. Uh,
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 3: and they had it double covered. I think when he's
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 3: in the game, Eldrid, they kind of on the lookout
• 1:30:28
  Speaker 3: for something downfield. Big play potential with Kyle Williams.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 11: Okay, yeah, one more question, ye, Paul Uhude, this was
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 11: Kid on Evan Show yesterday and there's a lot of
• 1:30:41
  Speaker 11: people call him from North Carolina and we're worried about
• 1:30:45
  Speaker 11: their clutch day because the game and they were the
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 11: game and the game that you got to have it.
• 1:30:54
  Speaker 11: Drake haven't showed up that well. We're figuring he's young,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 11: you get it into it, but a lot of us
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 11: we saw the same thing.
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we just warndery.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 3: We'll see now. Like I just like I said, I'm
• 1:31:05
  Speaker 3: not telling you that it's nothing to worry about. I'm
• 1:31:07
  Speaker 3: just saying I don't think we have enough evidence yet.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 3: But I know you guys have been watching them in college.
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 3: You guys have a little bit more background with him. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 3: he's better and in your defense, Biggie, you talked about
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 3: that in the pre draft process.
• 1:31:23
  Speaker 2: In the locker room. What was the mood where the
• 1:31:25
  Speaker 2: players fand into that none of them looked.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: Like Riick Henry hammock.
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 7: Rock, Like, what was it?
• 1:31:36
  Speaker 6: Like, I'm back, everybody, did you miss me? I ran
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 6: over to the locker room real quick.
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: Down the minute.
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  Speaker 1: Now, not a lot to report today, unfortunately, just kind
• 1:31:45
  Speaker 1: of quiet.
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: A lot of it was only there for funny.
• 1:31:48
  Speaker 3: Everybody else thought there was a lot.
• 1:31:50
  Speaker 1: Well, I said, robertsplen Is in a boot? Is that
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  Speaker 1: what it was?
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  Speaker 4: This?
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  Speaker 1: What did I not have an.
• 1:31:54
  Speaker 3: The Dicks comments, which one when you talked about you
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: may him about his sort of limited role and you know,
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 3: he was okay, and he was kind of like blee,
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: you know, oh yeah, I mean he was okay. I'm
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: not suggesting that he was in sndiary or anything like that,
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: but I thought that was kind of the first sign
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: after a loss that he wasn't a big part of that.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 3: He was like yeah, I'm over here.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, sometimes he did, but he did a good job.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 3: He I thought he did a good job of sort
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: of straddling the line there not Yeah.
• 1:32:28
  Speaker 1: Now I remember that response.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 3: But but I heard it when I was driving to
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 3: do my show, and I was like, I heard it.
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  Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, yeah, I had no excuse I should. I'm
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 6: gonna be better on that. But we didn't have any
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 6: scrums today, so nothing to not report. But did see
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 6: Terrell Williams walk through again. Uh see will Campbell walking through? Uh,
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 6: you know, no brace and I don't want to talk
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 6: about limps.
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: He looked fine. Uh but you know, decent energy is
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: as quick.
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  Speaker 6: They just they just got us in, So I just
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 6: you know, wanted to get in make sure everything was good.
• 1:33:04
  Speaker 1: Island. You didn't see did not see Spallaine.
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: And he was pow wowing, which Splaine came by in
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 2: a wheelchair.
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: Every day gets a little right, the leg's gone.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 2: No one one.
• 1:33:16
  Speaker 1: Good little Evan note and I'll let him maybe talk
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: about it on the shows next week.
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 6: But there was a good clip from Kirk Cousins on
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 6: the Internet's talking about you know, reading through defenses and
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 6: went on a little die trap about it all. He
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 6: described it, and Evan went over to Drake and was
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 6: asking Drake about it, just kind of on a one
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 6: on one, and I caught a little bit of the
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 6: response of Drake kind of explaining, oh, this is what
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 6: I did in college. And so it seemed like Evan
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: was getting some some good info. So we'll tee that out.
• 1:33:42
  Speaker 1: Maybe for next week he can he can talk about
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: that a little bit.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: And Alex on the the follow up, you just asked,
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  Speaker 3: did you hear it or did you see it?
• 1:33:50
  Speaker 2: I would.
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  Speaker 3: I think I know why you asked, because I would
• 1:33:52
  Speaker 3: agree reading it sounded worse and you can hearing it. Yeah,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: I felt way better about it. But I did hear
• 1:33:59
  Speaker 3: it when I was driving in. But then Phil Perry,
• 1:34:01
  Speaker 3: I think, wrote it up and they were reading the
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 3: quotes when we were on, and I was like, they
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 3: definitely read worse than they sound.
• 1:34:08
  Speaker 8: You need the tone and you need the whole.
• 1:34:10
  Speaker 3: Right, the whole thing. And he didn't Phil. Into Phil's credit,
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 3: he put the whole answer in.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 8: A lot of times are like crap.
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  Speaker 9: Of course, I wish I was getting the ball more,
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 9: but dot dot dot but the butt dot dot.
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 3: Didn't do that. I don't want to throw full out
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 3: of the bus. Bill put the whole thing in, but
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 3: reading it, it came off a little bit harsher than
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 3: it sounded.
• 1:34:28
  Speaker 2: Media literacy, all right, well, listen, it's that time of
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 2: the week, Paul, what happened last week?
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 3: Okay? Young Evan took the took the week last week
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 3: at ten and six, followed by Paul at nine and seven,
• 1:34:48
  Speaker 3: Fred and Alex eight and eight, and Mike at seven
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 3: and nine. So pretty mediocre week with the spread, uh.
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 3: Sticking with the adiquosity Paul at eight and eight, followed
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 3: by Evan and Fred at six and ten, Mike and
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 3: Alex at five and eleven.
• 1:35:05
  Speaker 1: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the basement.
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  Speaker 7: So playing my actual music.
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  Speaker 2: I again, it's Thursday.
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  Speaker 3: I like it.
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  Speaker 7: How have a song?
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: She's blowing?
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  Speaker 4: Hi?
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  Speaker 1: Mom, No, I have a song. I got ang Maya
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  Speaker 1: I finally made.
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  Speaker 3: So the season standings now getting to the nitty gritty,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: only three weeks left or some of that. Alex maintains
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 3: her one game lead over Fred one forty five seventy
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 3: eight and one to one forty four seventy nine and one.
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 3: Paul has moved into third place at one thirty eight
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 3: eighty five and one. Truly remarkable comeback turnaround one thirty
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  Speaker 3: seven eighty six and one for Mike, so only one
• 1:36:01
  Speaker 3: game behind me and Evan one thirty two ninety one
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 3: and one. That's just poor to mean for ball mower.
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 3: Uh with the spread Fred one eighteen one oh four
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 3: and two. But uh uh uh oh come conten Yes,
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: well one fourteen one oh eight and two. So I'm
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 3: only four games back.
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 2: With three to play, with three weeks to go.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 3: Uh, that's good. Evan one O seven one fifteen and two,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: Alex one O five one seventeen and two, and Mike,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 3: it's really ninety ninety two one thirty and two.
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  Speaker 1: Gracious, you will fade me.
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  Speaker 2: Goodness, gracious, he says, that's bad. Even it would be
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 2: if you were wad. This is what this is.
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: This is all the all the evidence I need to
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: never have to gamble.
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 2: So there you go.
• 1:36:55
  Speaker 6: But I should just be the opposite, right, I should
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 6: just start kissing yourself.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, myself. I'm gonna think this is what I'm gonna do.
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 8: And then last night that is what my heart is
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 8: telling me.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 2: All right, let's get into it. We gotta hurry because
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 2: there's no buys tonight Thursday night on Prime it's the
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 2: eleven and three Rams against the eleven and three Seahawks.
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: Big game, great game. Will you put this one on
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: tonight Paul this, this is worthy of firing up the service.
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 3: About it today, and I think I just might, especially.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: With the boys home Amazon Prime.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: Here my guesses I won't be seeing the Boys because
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 3: I don't know. They just go off and do lose
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 3: Seattle by one and a half.
• 1:37:33
  Speaker 2: One and a half.
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's interesting.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 6: That flipped on it did great game. Usually I go
• 1:37:39
  Speaker 6: with Seattle at home. I'm gonna go with Matthew Stafford
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 6: and the Rams though. I just have a little bit
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 6: more belief in him than sam Donold at this point
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 6: of the year.
• 1:37:47
  Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take the Rams and I'll take those points.
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 9: I'm gonna take Seattle. Really, Sean McVay had a kid
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 9: this week. Pooka has some drama.
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 3: No DeVante Adams.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 9: Having issues with their playing apparently. Yeah, so what about
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 9: the dad's strength for the coach though? Yeah, I'm thinking
• 1:38:08
  Speaker 9: of coming up with game plans when you had a
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 9: kid midweek.
• 1:38:12
  Speaker 1: He's tired, fleet of people.
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 8: Right, sticking with it Seattle.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: I'm with Alex. I'm gonna take Seattle. I like you know,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: I believe the Rams are the best table football, But
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: Thursday night home game, Division game, I take the home
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 3: team Seattle.
• 1:38:34
  Speaker 2: Evan was saying on the X that it wasn't a
• 1:38:39
  Speaker 2: good idea to have such a big game on a
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 2: Thursday night. It wasn't fair to either team.
• 1:38:43
  Speaker 3: I kind of agree. I would agree.
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with the Rams. I think they're
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: just the better team. Do you take anything off last
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 2: game last week Seattle's performance? I mean, I know they.
• 1:38:55
  Speaker 3: Won, but the Sam Donald thing, to me is worth
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: wondering about us. You're starting to get the Donald bias
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: are coming regression?
• 1:39:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I just I guess I have a little bit
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 6: of recency bias, catching a little bit of the Rams
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 6: last week. I just don't impressed with Matthew Stafford. How confidence,
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 6: smooth in command.
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 2: He looks pro. We have two Saturday games this week,
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 2: the first one Saturday at five o'clock odd time. But
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 2: I'll take it. Philadelphia nine and five at Washington four and.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 3: Ten, Philly by six and a half. Now, where can
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: we can consume these games?
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 1: Fox on Fox on Fox nice one for business.
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 3: I might be able to watch because I can click
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: back and forth for college football playoffs. Yeah, I understand
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 3: my dilemma.
• 1:39:41
  Speaker 9: I understand on a Saturday, I get it on a Sunday.
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 8: I don't understand what else is going.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: On to watch the games on Sunday.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 9: Red zone? Yeah, or do you flipping between red zone
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 9: and what else?
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 3: No, red zone is concerting. There's a play all the time,
• 1:39:56
  Speaker 3: there's no commercials.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: Matt Lock. I'll take Philly and I'll lay the points.
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 8: Philly, Philly.
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Philly as well. Yeah, Washington is just
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 3: a time and a half, six and a half. Eagles
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: a favorite body.
• 1:40:17
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Philly, but I will take the points.
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 2: I will take the points. Saturday, eight twenty on Fox.
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 2: A good game, the nine to four and one Packers
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 2: at the ten and four.
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: Bears Chicago by one and a half.
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: Flip two, Yeah, great game.
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: Tough loss for green Bay last week, losing Michael Parsons
• 1:40:41
  Speaker 6: and Christian Watson.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Chicago.
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 6: I think this is a big win for for Ben
• 1:40:46
  Speaker 6: Johnson and I'm gonna lay the point and a half.
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 8: I'm gonna take Chicago too.
• 1:40:52
  Speaker 3: I thought I would be alone in this one, but
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 3: I will take the Bears.
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the Packers.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 6: Got just just my instinct getting interesting between you what
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 6: he's doing?
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 2: What am I doing?
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 1: I know, I know, making an interest.
• 1:41:07
  Speaker 3: You know what you did? Curse.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 2: I just I feel like Green Bay is gonna win.
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 2: I go buy Fields, Freddy Fields, Freddy Feels, go By Fields.
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one Fox Tampa Bay seven and seven at
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 2: the Panthers seven and seven.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: Tampa Bay by three.
• 1:41:28
  Speaker 6: Just a gross loss for them last week. Hearing them
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 6: talk about it, they seemed disgusted with themselves. Uh So
• 1:41:34
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna pick Tampa to bounce back, even though y'all
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 6: know I love me some Panthers.
• 1:41:40
  Speaker 8: Tampa Tampa.
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 7: I guess.
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 3: God that division should be just throwing a vision that
• 1:41:47
  Speaker 3: whole division should be relegated. I'll take Tampa both ways.
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Carolina, Wow, big surprise. Gonna take Carolina
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one on CBS. Buffalo ten and four at
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 2: Cleveland three and eleven.
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: Buffalo by ten and a halfeesh.
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 6: So I'm gonna take Buffalo to win, of course, but
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna take the points. Just maybe one of those
• 1:42:17
  Speaker 6: weird little letdown games for Buffalo where they're not quite
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 6: as sharp.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: It's got to be a little bit of a letdown.
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 8: Tempting, tempting, same thing. I guess.
• 1:42:33
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the same thing. I don't like being
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: aligned with Deuce, but I kind of agree. I mean they,
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 3: you know, shootout against Tampa a few weeks ago, you know,
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 3: shootout against Cincinnati to come back against the mean at
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 3: some point you don't play that well. Yeah, And I
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: think they'll do enough to win on the road, But
• 1:42:52
  Speaker 3: ten and a half on the road, that's a lot.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: I'll take the point.
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: I thought i'd be alone on this one. I'm taking
• 1:42:57
  Speaker 2: the points too. I'm going into the window with the points.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 11: Uh.
• 1:43:01
  Speaker 2: You know, the Bills won their Super Bowl last week,
• 1:43:03
  Speaker 2: let's say s it, you know, so there's got to
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: be a lot true, there's got to be a letdown.
• 1:43:07
  Speaker 2: They win the game, but they don't cover all right.
• 1:43:10
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one on Fox, the Chargers at ten and
• 1:43:14
  Speaker 2: four at Dallas six seven and.
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: One, Dallas by two and a half.
• 1:43:19
  Speaker 1: M It's a tough one for me.
• 1:43:22
  Speaker 6: As you can tell from my record, They're all probably
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 6: pretty tough for me, whether I know it or not.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 2: This whole thing is tough exercise segment.
• 1:43:30
  Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go with Dallas.
• 1:43:32
  Speaker 6: I think that their their defense has been playing better
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 6: and I think they'll get after Justin Herbert and do
• 1:43:36
  Speaker 6: enough to win by more than two and a half points.
• 1:43:39
  Speaker 3: Dallas, Dallas, Yeah this. You know, Fred likes to talk
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 3: about the spreads like when they're odd. This is an
• 1:43:47
  Speaker 3: odd spread to me. I will take the Chargers to
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 3: win the game.
• 1:43:50
  Speaker 2: I am with Paul Chargers win this game.
• 1:43:53
  Speaker 17: Uh.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one, what, I don't know what you don't
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 2: want to be a Sunday at one on CBS. It's
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: the Jets three and eleven at New Orleans four and ten.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 3: Speaking of the Jets, Deuce is playing the role of
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 3: the Jets, just trying to be spoiler, that's all. I'm
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 3: trying to do the Jets at New Orleans, New Orleans
• 1:44:17
  Speaker 3: by four and a half. The Jets, since I always.
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 6: Go first, I need to start planning some misinformation. Of course,
• 1:44:24
  Speaker 6: I made huge news for New Orleans. You know what's
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 6: going on there, so I really feel great about them.
• 1:44:29
  Speaker 1: I'll take New Orleans. How many points?
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: Four and a half?
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I gotta lay those based on all that
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 6: recent news that I heard about the Saints.
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 9: Crazy really, I already had it written down, so I'll
• 1:44:39
  Speaker 9: just go with it.
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 8: New Orleans New Orleans.
• 1:44:45
  Speaker 3: Can the Jets be that bad?
• 1:44:47
  Speaker 14: Yeah?
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: I mean New Orleans. I'm gonna pick Orleans to win
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 3: at home. Yeah, I'll lay the points. New Orleans both ways?
• 1:44:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, New Orleans both ways is the play they're playing.
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 3: They're being spunky strut with Tyler Shuck.
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, they beat the pan.
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 2: How big is your unit?
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 1: I think it's four point five?
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 3: Okay, bigger than that.
• 1:45:13
  Speaker 1: That's what pretty average spread.
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: I mean, I was just tossing mic and discuss.
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: It depends on what game I want.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 3: That's a big spread on a red zone. Uh.
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one on Fox, it's Minnesota at six and
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: eight against the Giants two and.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: Twelve, Minnesota by three.
• 1:45:37
  Speaker 2: Wow. Oh so this to me, this is an interesting
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 2: what the sharps?
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 15: No?
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, do you guys catch any of that?
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 3: What were the records again? Six and eight, two and twelve,
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 3: And you're wondering why the road team is favorite?
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah? By only three? Oh, by only three? Well it's
• 1:45:55
  Speaker 2: J J.
• 1:45:56
  Speaker 1: McCarthy. Uh, I'm gonna take J. J. McCarthy, I think obviously.
• 1:46:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, he's just on fire right now and they're
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 6: easily gonna win this game out later.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 8: Points Minnesota Minnesota.
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, I don't think Minnesota is good enough to
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 3: be favored on the road. I will take it. I
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 3: will take the Giants. Oh bad team.
• 1:46:15
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's yeah. But the Giants are really bad.
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 3: They are, but out at home. I think that they'll
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 3: show some. Yeah every once a month, Yeah, they show some.
• 1:46:24
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna hot I'm taking Minnesota both ways. Uh, this
• 1:46:28
  Speaker 2: is a this is a good one. Though. The sharps
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 2: are telling us something here, so Paul might be onto something.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 2: Sunday at one at CBS. UH, the playoff eliminated Kansas
• 1:46:41
  Speaker 2: City Chiefs are at the playoff eliminated Tennessee Titans six
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 2: and eight against two and twelve.
• 1:46:48
  Speaker 3: Kansas City by three.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 1: It's a really tough one with Gardner Minshew.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: Of course, it's a really big shoe.
• 1:46:57
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna go Withansas City in this one, but
• 1:47:03
  Speaker 6: I'm going to take the points for Tennessee. I think
• 1:47:04
  Speaker 6: they kind of keep it close. I think they've been
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 6: a little a little frisky at home.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 8: Spread one more time.
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 21: I'm sorry, three flat four Kansas City, Kansas City by three, Tennessee.
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 3: Al Right, the cover Kansas City and Tennessee sound.
• 1:47:24
  Speaker 1: Like you shifted gears there.
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 3: No, I'm taking the Chiefs both ways. I don't can't
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 3: take tennis.
• 1:47:33
  Speaker 2: From what I heard out of the Chiefs locker room,
• 1:47:35
  Speaker 2: you got to take the Chiefs.
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 1: Some of them aren't even sure they've been eliminated.
• 1:47:39
  Speaker 2: Mahomes was hurt.
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 7: I love this already.
• 1:47:47
  Speaker 1: Did you say the garnermentship.
• 1:47:52
  Speaker 2: Kansas City both ways? Sunday one on CBS Cincinnati four
• 1:47:57
  Speaker 2: and ten at Miami six and eight.
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 3: Uh, Cincinnati by four and a half.
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 1: Geez, I guess our line was before they benched.
• 1:48:08
  Speaker 6: This is the interesting one to me where it's just
• 1:48:09
  Speaker 6: it's like for nothing, and you know, Cincinnati you're close.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 1: To getting, like, you know, a good drop pick.
• 1:48:14
  Speaker 6: Don't win, But I think they're gonna I'll take Cincinnati
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 6: and I'm gonna lay the points.
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 8: Cincinnati Cincinnati.
• 1:48:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna take Cincinnati both ways too. With Quinn
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 3: Yours playing quarterback. Yeah, I think Borrow's gotta snap out.
• 1:48:30
  Speaker 2: Of it a little.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Joe Burrow. But all right, bro, I
• 1:48:33
  Speaker 3: get it, you're down. You gotta play too.
• 1:48:36
  Speaker 2: You think you'll have fun this week?
• 1:48:38
  Speaker 3: I don't know. Yeah, probably not going to Miami. Why
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 3: not what's not that.
• 1:48:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with Cincinnati to win the game.
• 1:48:44
  Speaker 2: I think Burrow, like, I don't know what's going on
• 1:48:47
  Speaker 2: up in Cincinnati as a result of his remarks, but
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 2: I gotta imagine there's a lot swirling and so he's
• 1:48:53
  Speaker 2: gonna come out to show everybody. Yeah, I'm still engaged.
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:48:57
  Speaker 2: So I think he'll have a good game. And I
• 1:48:59
  Speaker 2: think the sharps that too. That's that's why. All right, Uh, Sunday,
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 2: Now we go to four oh five on Sunday, it's Fox,
• 1:49:09
  Speaker 2: and it's Atlanta five and nine at Arizona three and eleven.
• 1:49:14
  Speaker 3: Atlanta by three.
• 1:49:17
  Speaker 1: Ah boy, Jacoby Brissett versus Kirk Cousins.
• 1:49:20
  Speaker 2: Oh boy.
• 1:49:21
  Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. I'm gonna go with the upset
• 1:49:26
  Speaker 1: and go Arizona.
• 1:49:29
  Speaker 8: Atlanta Atlanta.
• 1:49:34
  Speaker 3: I guess they just have to play these games. Huh.
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Arizona at home.
• 1:49:40
  Speaker 2: You're a sucker for Arizona.
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 3: No, I think they stink.
• 1:49:43
  Speaker 8: They're so bad.
• 1:49:44
  Speaker 3: And every week you watch like the beginning of the
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 3: game and announce just tell you how well Brissette's playing.
• 1:49:49
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, I watch these games. He's not playing
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 3: like it's this, it's the typical. Yeah, he does turn
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 3: the ball over like early in the game, and that's
• 1:49:58
  Speaker 3: how they fall behind. And he gets a whole bunch
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 3: of plastic yards at the end of the game when
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 3: it's over, like Trey McBride ends up with like thirteen
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 3: catches when they're getting killed. Yeah, he stinks.
• 1:50:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, as excited as we are about the turnaround
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: the Patriots had. If you're an Atlanta fan, aren't you
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: so disappointed? Like thinking, you know, we're coming into the
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: season with Pennix and we're gonna have a good and
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: like and we have all this talent, and what a disappointment.
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: But having said that, I'm gonna go with Atlanta both ways.
• 1:50:26
  Speaker 2: Here Sunday four or five, Fox Jacksonville ten and four
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: at Denver twelve and two.
• 1:50:35
  Speaker 3: Big game, Trevor Lawrence.
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 2: We turn our lonely eyes to you.
• 1:50:39
  Speaker 3: Big game, Denver by three.
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: Wasn't this just the game you were talking about ninety six?
• 1:50:45
  Speaker 6: Yeah, Jacksonville and Denver. Shoot, I'm going with Denver. I'm
• 1:50:50
  Speaker 6: gonna take Denver at home on lay the points.
• 1:50:57
  Speaker 3: It's three, Denver by three.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 9: Denver wins. I feel like they play a lot of
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 9: close games, so we're gonna make it fun. Jacksonville covers.
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna take Denver both ways, but Jacksonville is impressing me.
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 3: They're starting to move into Maybe they were a little
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 3: better than people give them credit for territory with Houston
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 3: and Denver. I think they're behind those two teams. But
• 1:51:24
  Speaker 3: I think Denver gets it done at home as because why.
• 1:51:28
  Speaker 2: Fred they always play at home?
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 3: Correctly.
• 1:51:31
  Speaker 2: As I said earlier the week, the only silver lining
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: about Denver beating the Packers last week was the narrative
• 1:51:37
  Speaker 2: of the ANFC is not as good as the NFC. Well,
• 1:51:40
  Speaker 2: our team beat your team. If you're an NFC team, okay.
• 1:51:45
  Speaker 3: Direct your best team beat their seven seed.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 2: Having said that, taking the jag Wow, taking the Jaguars.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 1: First seed window back open.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: Let's go Sunday four twenty five CBS. You like that out?
• 1:52:04
  Speaker 7: You like that so good?
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: Sunday four twenty five CBS. Pittsburgh eight and six at
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: Detroit eight and six.
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 3: Pittsburgh at Detroit, Detroit by seven.
• 1:52:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that number. Pittsburgh, I just I don't.
• 1:52:21
  Speaker 1: I'm not impressed with them at all. I'm gonna take
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 1: Detroit all later points.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 8: Lions Lions.
• 1:52:27
  Speaker 3: Huh. So I'm gonna take the Lions both ways too.
• 1:52:30
  Speaker 3: It's gonna be one of these deals. Pittsburgh's gonna have
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 3: winning the Super Bowl, and I'm just gonna say, you know,
• 1:52:35
  Speaker 3: not very good, right, but I'll take the Lions.
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: Now, Folks, be careful. When there's a flat number, that
• 1:52:44
  Speaker 2: means that Vegas is probably hoping for a push. And
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 2: then you ask why, I don't know. Well, they get
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 2: the big right, but I'm going to take Detroit to
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 2: cover those seven points, which means they have to win
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 2: by at least eight. That's how it works. Sunday on CBS,
• 1:53:05
  Speaker 2: the Raiders at two and twelve are at Houston nine
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 2: and five.
• 1:53:12
  Speaker 3: Houston by fourteen and a half.
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 2: Houston with a really easy schedule.
• 1:53:16
  Speaker 6: Golly, mice, Molly, that's you know what I feel like.
• 1:53:21
  Speaker 1: It's a lot that Houston's gonna beat him by that much.
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 6: So I'm gonna go do the George Costanzo and I'm
• 1:53:25
  Speaker 6: gonna take the points for Vegas.
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 8: I was going to do that too.
• 1:53:31
  Speaker 2: It's a lot of points.
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, same with me. I'll take Houston to win the game,
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 3: but Vegas has to show some hard after getting shut
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 3: out thirty one nothing last week or not. No, I
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 3: could mail it in and I could lose the pick.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 3: But I'll take Houston to win. I'll take Vegas to cover.
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 3: But if you're dipper within two touchdowns, there's any.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: Time for the Who's Honor? Speech? This week?
• 1:53:56
  Speaker 3: You know the ship be sinking.
• 1:53:58
  Speaker 2: The minority owner Brady needs to come in that locker
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: room and ask these people, this is your honor?
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, who's honor? Your honor? You forgot what your family is?
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 2: Your family's honor, my honor.
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 8: Now on the booter.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: With his Dave Garaway glasses. What is with those sunglasses?
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 1: Super cool? I love so much he's.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 2: Selling time exs eighteen sixty.
• 1:54:22
  Speaker 3: Who did you take?
• 1:54:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know who. Oh, I don't know who. I'm
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna take the points. I'm gonna take the points.
• 1:54:30
  Speaker 2: But Houston wins. Allright? All right? We skip over the
• 1:54:33
  Speaker 2: Patriots Sunday night at eight twenty, and we go to
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: Monday at eight fifteen on ESPN, it's the forty nine
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 2: Ers ten and four. Some people think the most underrated
• 1:54:43
  Speaker 2: team in the league at indy eight and six.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 3: San Francisco by six and a half six and a half.
• 1:54:53
  Speaker 3: I would agree that the Niners are right now, yeah, underrated.
• 1:54:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I'm gonna go with them. And I'll
• 1:54:58
  Speaker 1: lay those points against Philip.
• 1:55:00
  Speaker 8: Rivers all those weeks with Mac Jones, bang bang Niner gang.
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 3: So I will take San Francisco to find a way
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 3: to win the game, but i'll take the points.
• 1:55:10
  Speaker 2: Really, six and a half into the Philip.
• 1:55:12
  Speaker 3: Six and a half at home. But that's that's a
• 1:55:14
  Speaker 3: lot of points.
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, here's the thing. Rivers did well
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: for himself. He didn't throw up all over him, so
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: he great moment, did pretty well. But that's it. That's it.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: They're not gonna score a lot of points and forty
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: nine as well. That's why they're giving him the six
• 1:55:29
  Speaker 2: and a half so they cover.
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 6: I wonder how he's feeling this week after jumping back
• 1:55:34
  Speaker 6: into an NFL game like not having played one.
• 1:55:37
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it's gonna be all right.
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 2: Now we go back to Sunday night. It's the eleven
• 1:55:42
  Speaker 2: and three Patriots against the seven and seven Ravens.
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 3: Ravens by three.
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 2: Such disrespect? What disrespect?
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 1: That feels a well? Right, they get three, they're home,
• 1:55:55
  Speaker 1: all right, So y'all know me, I'm wrong about all everything,
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 1: and I'm going to pick the Ravens.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 6: So, you know, maybe it's kind of a reversion power
• 1:56:02
  Speaker 6: for good. But I think it's a tough spot.
• 1:56:04
  Speaker 1: For the Patriots.
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 6: They're they're banged up in the wrong spots, and I
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 6: think the Ravens need the game more and usually we
• 1:56:09
  Speaker 6: get this part of the year, especially with an MVP
• 1:56:12
  Speaker 6: caliber quarterback and Derrick Henry. I think they can get
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 6: it done. But I think the Patriots hang in there
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 6: and show some spunk. But I'm gonna take the Ravens
• 1:56:19
  Speaker 6: twenty seven to twenty three.
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 9: I will take New England twenty seven to twenty six.
• 1:56:29
  Speaker 3: So I think of this game similarly to the way
• 1:56:32
  Speaker 3: Mike is talking about it. And the bigger thing for
• 1:56:34
  Speaker 3: me than health, because the Ravens are beat to crap
• 1:56:36
  Speaker 3: two is the desperation factor that Mike just talked about.
• 1:56:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know which Ravens team will show up. They've
• 1:56:44
  Speaker 3: had some desperate situations that they've completely laid an egg
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 3: in and it. You know, maybe this will be another
• 1:56:49
  Speaker 3: one in the Patriots that come back with a big
• 1:56:51
  Speaker 3: win and make everybody feel better. I think that there's
• 1:56:55
  Speaker 3: some pride in that organization. I think they they got
• 1:56:58
  Speaker 3: to find a way to win a game at home
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 3: and give themselves a chance in the last two weeks.
• 1:57:02
  Speaker 3: So same scorer as my twenty seven to twenty three Baltimore. Okay,
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 3: you have little faith, it's not of little faith. I
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 3: think they absolutely can win.
• 1:57:10
  Speaker 2: Said I picked against the Patriots this week.
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 3: Patriots can absolutely win this this year.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: The number, the score that came to me, twenty two
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 2: to nineteen Patriots.
• 1:57:21
  Speaker 1: It's a weird one.
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 2: Twenty two to nineteen. Patriots pull it out.
• 1:57:25
  Speaker 3: Every once in a while, he goes Berman.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Now, I don't know if it's going to be
• 1:57:28
  Speaker 2: one of those last fourth quarter and so we still
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: won't have the evidence that people are looking for from
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: Drake May. But the team shows spunk against a very
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: tough Ravens team. I think the Patriots defense rises right.
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: You know, the Ravens will possess the ball, but you
• 1:57:50
  Speaker 2: might see a lot of threes instead of sevens, and
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: that's going to be the difference in the game. And
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: twenty two points is going to be enough. Twenty two
• 1:57:59
  Speaker 2: points is going to be enough.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 3: It's a good theory. You know they tighten up the
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 3: red zone defense and field goals instead of touchdowns. That's
• 1:58:06
  Speaker 3: a good way to win a game on the road. Absolutely.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: All right, Well listen, I hope we're all right. I
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: know that can't be possible. Well, I hope these guys
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 2: are wrong.
• 1:58:15
  Speaker 3: I hope I'm wrong.
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but we will have the post pre pregame show
• 1:58:21
  Speaker 2: Sunday morning. I mean no, we'll do it six o'clock. Yeah,
• 1:58:26
  Speaker 2: We're not like BZ.
• 1:58:28
  Speaker 3: Oh seven seven. Yeah, I'm still in that two hours
• 1:58:31
  Speaker 3: seven seven o'clock.
• 1:58:33
  Speaker 2: Scare me seven o'clock for the pregame show and then
• 1:58:36
  Speaker 2: the post game show immediately following. You guys gonna be
• 1:58:38
  Speaker 2: okay with the night.
• 1:58:39
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we're used to it now.
• 1:58:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah. It's a tough way to go into Christmas though,
• 1:58:43
  Speaker 3: I know, I know you guys. Just got to make
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 3: sure you I'm gonna be nice on the air.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 2: All right, We will see you next Tuesday.
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 4: Hey, this is Evan. Thanks for tuning into the show.
• 1:58:56
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• 1:59:08
  Speaker 7: Thanks a lot.