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#430: AuDHD vs Health, Pooping Anxiety, SSRIs Sexual Side Effects · Pod Therapy

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  Speaker 1: When the sweet little okay dress is done already.
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  Speaker 2: Uh. The European lady who's like helping me with the dress,
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  Speaker 2: she was, oh, this is so beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. Mother of the bride.
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  Speaker 3: I was like, oh, okay, it would it could have
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  Speaker 3: been worse. Not, No, it could not have Oh yes,
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't. You can said shot, good wedding problem, fabulous matter.
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  Speaker 3: This is pod therapy, real people, real problems, and real therapists.
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  Speaker 3: You can submit your questions anonymously pod therapy dot net
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  Speaker 3: or emails at pod therapy guys at gmail dot com.
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  Speaker 3: And now broadcasting from the unnamed studio. That's Jim. That's
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  Speaker 3: what me.
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  Speaker 4: I met time for some potstren dot com splash therapy.
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  Speaker 3: You can name our.
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  Speaker 4: Studio and you need to make us say words.
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  Speaker 3: Here's the thing. It would have been worse if the
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  Speaker 3: bride to be was there with you and that was set.
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  Speaker 5: There's a little bit of like by not by much,
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  Speaker 5: not because here's something that is standing there.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, then that's insulting because I think about this every
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  Speaker 3: time I have to go on campus. Okay, I have
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  Speaker 3: to go up to you and R and I try
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  Speaker 3: to avoid campus because when I walk through there, I
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  Speaker 3: do people think it's thrown at him.
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  Speaker 1: Everything flirst.
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  Speaker 5: But you don't get professor no, because I don't think
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  Speaker 5: i'm I don't think I look like a professor wearing
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  Speaker 5: it's just usual dad, stop wearing.
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  Speaker 3: Just a red vest. Yes, yeah, the looks like you
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  Speaker 3: are really strange. I walk around campus.
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  Speaker 4: I'm a few years younger than you, and but you
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  Speaker 4: look like, okay, thanks, are we hurting each other now?
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  Speaker 3: But we've never done that before. You're doing like a professor. No,
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  Speaker 3: I feel like, yeah, because you were like jacket. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like I'm dressed more like, what do you wearing?
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  Speaker 3: What do you wear? More casual?
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  Speaker 2: Like?
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  Speaker 3: I got some jeans and fucking uh shirt, but usually
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  Speaker 3: just like a polo shirt.
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  Speaker 5: And some Okay, well, you're wrong, so let me use
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  Speaker 5: how confused is about this stuff? He's on the wrong
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  Speaker 5: that I thought you're walking onto a college campus.
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  Speaker 4: Is a forty something wearing a fucking pop collar and jeans,
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  Speaker 4: You're dumb like you clearly should be wearing a jacket. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: why for what purpose? Understand your age?
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  Speaker 3: Campus? And I'm dressed like this? Is that inappropriate? You're great?
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  Speaker 4: First off, You're always great. I'm wearing shorts and a
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  Speaker 4: T shirt and a baseball and fucking killing it. Okay,
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  Speaker 4: I start with I look fantastic. Let's start with that,
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  Speaker 4: no doubt about it. If I could change one thing again,
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  Speaker 4: a slight nudge. Not my place to suggest it, but
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  Speaker 4: if you were asking, would.
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  Speaker 3: Which I am? If i'm if?
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  Speaker 5: I am just gonna go down tomorrow after Monday afternoon
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  Speaker 5: and just and just walk around the campus of un
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  Speaker 5: l V. Yes, take a nice stroll around un ov's
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  Speaker 5: campus for say half an hour, okay, and just you know,
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  Speaker 5: just the.
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  Speaker 3: Just the the area.
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  Speaker 5: Maybe check it out, maybe see if I want to
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  Speaker 5: recommend that to any of my younger family members for
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  Speaker 5: their college pursuits.
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  Speaker 3: Understood.
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  Speaker 4: If you came to me as a friend, he said, Jim,
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  Speaker 4: you see me wearing my tennis, my shorts, no one's uh,
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  Speaker 4: would you recommend anything? I'd say, yep.
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  Speaker 3: Let me get a little jacket on you. Now that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: So you so you'd recommend a little more formality. Now
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  Speaker 3: I get a jacket on you. Let me get the
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  Speaker 3: double pocket button up. So nice sport coke.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that's what I'm going for. I don't
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  Speaker 4: know if that's always the.
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  Speaker 3: Right one question?
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yes, why it distinguishes impressing? Well, it's not impressive,
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  Speaker 4: and benefit do I get from it? Ignore that I
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  Speaker 4: am not a student. I am in the group of
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  Speaker 4: people who explain information.
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  Speaker 3: So even if you're number, what I'm learning is that's
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  Speaker 3: important to Jim, That's what I'm learning.
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  Speaker 4: Listen, do you want the vibes or fucking nuts? Okay,
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  Speaker 4: So Whitney has guest taught in my class, She's shown
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  Speaker 4: up stress.
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  Speaker 3: She is always stressed.
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  Speaker 4: I feel like the last time you showed up where
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  Speaker 4: you were in a hoodie.
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  Speaker 5: I have guests taught at quite a few universities, which okay,
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  Speaker 5: But here's the difference when Whitney shows up.
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  Speaker 4: No, there is a difference. You're you're gonna be underwhelmed,
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  Speaker 4: and Whitney will agree. When when Whitney shows up, she
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  Speaker 4: is undercover, so she's not They do not know that
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  Speaker 4: she is explaining anything to them. Do you not know
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  Speaker 4: that she's a lecturer. They think that she's a regular
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  Speaker 4: patient who is volunteered to let me do an intake
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  Speaker 4: session with her. So you believe the hoodie is part
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  Speaker 4: of her disguise. I'm part of her character. That's what
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying. Yeah, no, I'm fine with it, but like
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  Speaker 4: if she were presenting herself, Like when Nick shows up,
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  Speaker 4: he usually shows up a little bit dressed higher than Whitney.
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  Speaker 4: But that actually works because Whitney's there to sort of
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  Speaker 4: not give.
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  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take a picture of myself before Jim the
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  Speaker 5: next time I am staying in front.
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  Speaker 3: Of a college lecture hall.
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  Speaker 4: Nick, is your own fucking fault that you feel out
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  Speaker 4: of place on a god campus. You can just wear
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  Speaker 4: a fucking elbow patch jacket and that's on you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I'm not going to pack that just to
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  Speaker 3: walk around on campus.
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  Speaker 4: So anyway, Nick, what what else is going on?
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  Speaker 3: His guns? I don't spend time there. I usually just
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  Speaker 3: have to go there walk through real quick to pick
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  Speaker 3: something up, Like I had to take my laptop in
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  Speaker 3: to get it worked on. Like I'm not spending I don't.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just I don't understand any part of Look, the
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  Speaker 4: point is you are solidly in your forties, which is
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  Speaker 4: why I'm holding out card. This orange card which Jacob
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  Speaker 4: Whitney and I have.
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  Speaker 3: Is the day of your birth, which is coming. Thanks,
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  Speaker 3: So why do.
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  Speaker 4: You tell everybody. Hold you're going to be as you
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  Speaker 4: open up this. Okay, there we go, thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: My my birthday is in July, but thank you, oh
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  Speaker 3: very be on top of it.
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  Speaker 1: I don't be late.
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  Speaker 3: Well yeah, I'd rather be early than like the whole bit.
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  Speaker 1: That's yeah.
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  Speaker 4: The thing.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be sixty two years old.
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  Speaker 1: Amazing for you.
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  Speaker 4: He does, he does not a day over there. It
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  Speaker 4: is not a day over six zero, my man, So good.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you we that out to us, buddy, all right,
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  Speaker 3: from all of us. Years from now you can look
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  Speaker 3: back at it and say, who are these people have?
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  Speaker 4: Yep, the camera, Jacob and Whitney, there it is. We're
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  Speaker 4: still practicing cameras and uh, thank you.
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  Speaker 3: We're doing so good. What's the card there, buddy? All Lows,
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  Speaker 3: thank you, You're welcome.
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  Speaker 1: History amount you have to guess there was.
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  Speaker 3: There was a quick text discussion about what to get you. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're like yo.
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  Speaker 5: I think Joe suggested we get you a gift card
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  Speaker 5: and Joe was like golf something maybe, And I think
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  Speaker 5: the immediate follow up was Whitney just going like Lows, Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I was just that Lows like two hours ago. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: there was colored.
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  Speaker 3: So here's the thing. Here's the thing. So I have
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  Speaker 3: a little patch of grass. Oh, it's about fourteen feet
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  Speaker 3: by eighteen. This is real grass. Is real grass, and Nevada.
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  Speaker 2: That is to get people to put grass in our backyard,
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  Speaker 2: even a little two foot.
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  Speaker 5: Then they were to get underground, like you got to
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  Speaker 5: hire illegal people.
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  Speaker 3: So we got we because we got somebody coming in
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  Speaker 3: to work on the backyard and we talked about doing
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  Speaker 3: something different to the front. And the guy's like, you've
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  Speaker 3: got natural grass. He's like, don't touch it. Don't He's like,
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  Speaker 3: because the moment you take it out, you can't put
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  Speaker 3: it back in. Yes, like you've got it. You got
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  Speaker 3: a hold on it. That's true. So because it's fourteen
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  Speaker 3: by eighteen estimate, okay estimating, it's such a manageable size
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  Speaker 3: that I can spend a ship ton of time on it.
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  Speaker 3: And so like, I love my grass. I've got it.
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  Speaker 3: I've got it. It is. It is cut so nice
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  Speaker 3: and it's really what the fuck how I can't wait
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  Speaker 3: for it? With a lawnmower, you have a whole ass lawnmower. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: this grass.
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  Speaker 5: I have an electric one. Okay, okay, use this room.
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  Speaker 5: To tell me how big this grass?
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  Speaker 3: It's about eight this.
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  Speaker 5: Room byeen by eighteen about the numbers I've been saying
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  Speaker 5: for the last Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know those. What is this?
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  Speaker 5: It's about the size of this room. Okay, the whole grass.
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  Speaker 5: You have a whole grass the size of this room.
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  Speaker 3: WHOA, yeah, I don't know. You're a millionaire. Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: I'm a pretty big deal.
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  Speaker 5: No ship, Yeah that's huge. So I was at loses
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  Speaker 5: today because I needed I needed to get take over here.
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  Speaker 3: Living his best life with all his I had to
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  Speaker 3: figure out first. So I had to get some some
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  Speaker 3: grassy because I got one little patch that's just not
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  Speaker 3: coming in very well. And so I have to figure
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  Speaker 3: out is this It's either it's either long fescue or
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  Speaker 3: it's bermuda. And I'm not one hundred percent sure, but
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  Speaker 3: I figured it out. It is uh. It is uh,
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  Speaker 3: it's a different it is fescue.
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  Speaker 4: Hold on, may I understand this again? Forgive me ever
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  Speaker 4: understood grass? Never had it? Okay, in your room, size
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  Speaker 4: of grass, you have a portion that's not the same species.
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  Speaker 3: It's all the same. But I couldn't figure I need
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  Speaker 3: to plant some new grass. I need to got it.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, so you need to figure out what the whole
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  Speaker 4: thing is before you funk around and find out.
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  Speaker 3: Did you figure it out? How do you know? So
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  Speaker 3: I'm glad you asked delay. Uh no, this is this
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  Speaker 3: is good. This is good. Thank you. We're going to
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  Speaker 3: delay these questions. I'm gonna let the listener know how
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  Speaker 3: to identify your grass.
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  Speaker 6: If you look closely at fescue, Okay, you're not going
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  Speaker 6: to see like a vein that goes right down the
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  Speaker 6: middle the big right.
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  Speaker 3: You're going to see a lot lots of veins going
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  Speaker 3: all the way down the blade, even spaced out. That's
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  Speaker 3: a sign that it's fescue. So that's one of the
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  Speaker 3: ways that you would know.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, so then you figured it out. Yeah, part that
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  Speaker 4: was bad.
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  Speaker 3: Bermuda kind of spreads this way because so there's roots
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  Speaker 3: that go underground and then there's roots that go over
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  Speaker 3: the ground. Okay, And so Bermuda's is what they use
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  Speaker 3: on the golf course because you can cut it really,
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  Speaker 3: really really short. That's exciting. Man.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, do you have an entire studio because this is
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  Speaker 4: no joke.
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  Speaker 5: This is all going towards grass. Yeah, there was second,
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  Speaker 5: then kind this is.
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  Speaker 2: I want.
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  Speaker 3: Jacob, do you have real grass? It's not imaginary? Well,
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  Speaker 3: but I thought, I haven't been out there in a while.
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  Speaker 4: It's all it's all fake grass. Yeah, you have fake grass.
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  Speaker 4: What do you have Whitney Rocks and I have fake grass.
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  Speaker 4: So the fact that he had.
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  Speaker 2: We had some fake grass in the backyard. But I
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  Speaker 2: know the previous owners dogs peede all over it.
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  Speaker 3: So to get it is that bad? It's the dog.
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  Speaker 3: You can't it's hard to get the smell out.
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  Speaker 4: The cheapst it's real grass, the cheapost stuff. And yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: it's yeah, that's incredible. Like honestly, it's such a flex
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  Speaker 4: in Las Vegas that you have like whatever, one hundred
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  Speaker 4: and fifty square feet of real grass.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, it's a completely alien to my thought.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, if I had real, no idea anywhere on my property,
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  Speaker 5: it would have been gone by, Like I would have
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  Speaker 5: just turned it. If I would have just turned the
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  Speaker 5: water off and been like it's all gonna die.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, or do anything it's gonna die.
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  Speaker 1: Be really hard to keep alive.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I was like, I mean, first of all, putting
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  Speaker 5: it in, like putting putting the grass into this area,
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  Speaker 5: from like my yard would have been I think like
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  Speaker 5: half the cost of the fake grass, maybe a little
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  Speaker 5: less than half the cost, even with all the irrigation
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  Speaker 5: and everything.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, but then it would have been that cost.
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  Speaker 5: You know again, it would be like fifty percent of
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  Speaker 5: that cost again like every year.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yep, just because you're like preceding.
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  Speaker 5: Every year and the water bill and like all that
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  Speaker 5: kind of stuff. Like here you were not allowed to
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  Speaker 5: water more than once a week. It's so like you
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  Speaker 5: just can't keep grass alive. Okay, So my fake grass
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  Speaker 5: looks great.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and I don't have to know. I
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  Speaker 3: wish it.
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  Speaker 1: Cooled though, like I feel like mine really.
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  Speaker 5: Mine does talk after that, it doesn't cool as well
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  Speaker 5: as as real grass does it. It hadn't like cleared
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  Speaker 5: that hurdle. But this is a lot like my old house.
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  Speaker 5: We had fake grass that would burn your feet.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I have that.
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  Speaker 5: You can walk on it barefoot in the in the summer.
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  Speaker 5: It's warm, really not painful.
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  Speaker 1: Jesus, all right, we'll later.
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  Speaker 4: Get a titanium or some ship. Anyway, Listen, I'm rooting
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  Speaker 4: for you.
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  Speaker 3: But because birthday, thank you in that box up, Robert.
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  Speaker 3: It is a dick in a box, is it? It
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  Speaker 3: might very well be a dick. I would Hi, Nick
• 14:01
  Speaker 3: and Jim. I've been shopping a lot at Bull Moose,
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  Speaker 3: a record store o collecting physical media. I got copies
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  Speaker 3: of Aren't Ego and Battlefield Earth for dirt cheap.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, thank you? Okay, I was a feeling
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  Speaker 1: offended at no longer.
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  Speaker 3: These are four and then it says for your viewing pleasure,
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  Speaker 3: and then that's scratched out and it just says for
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  Speaker 3: your viewing pleasure. Robert Brownie p s. The folks at
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: Bull Moose are professional and kind, but even they couldn't
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  Speaker 3: hide the judgment in their eyes when I set Battlefield
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  Speaker 3: Earth on the counter. What oh, I have watched? What
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: are we looking at here? We got two? Have you
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  Speaker 3: never seen Battlefielders? Show? Yes?
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  Speaker 4: And Forrest Whittaker. We're not watching Battlefield to watch award?
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  Speaker 1: Okay after party?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's no way I'm talking about Yeah, look
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  Speaker 3: at it.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, okay, legitimate.
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  Speaker 3: Why don't you open up the other one, bud? That
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  Speaker 3: that's oh yeah, oh, Robert, you don't even know what
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  Speaker 3: you've done to me. Baby, I'm so excited, thank you
• 15:28
  Speaker 3: so much. Let me get in there.
• 15:32
  Speaker 5: That's down here, him hitting his microphone to the DVD case.
• 15:36
  Speaker 4: Look at it, Look at look at this, gentleman. I
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: don't know if you guys know, but that's Oscar Award
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  Speaker 4: nominee John Travolta, also Oscar Award nominee Forrest Whittaker. And
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: if you weren't racist, you'd support this movie, okay. And
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: if you believed in God, because apparent.
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  Speaker 3: But if you love America, America, that's an easy choice.
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  Speaker 3: I'm so excited.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, oh ship, it's got chapters, scene index, God.
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  Speaker 3: Damn all right, let's move on.
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  Speaker 5: It would have been really funny if that case had
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  Speaker 5: not had a dvdholder. Robert, you missed the Just send
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  Speaker 5: me the empty box. Here's the case, the empty but honestly.
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  Speaker 3: In like condition. Motherfucker is it rewound? It's Battlefield earth
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: hold on. What's that?
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  Speaker 5: Don't tell me we have two copies of battle what? Okay? Okay,
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  Speaker 5: I would draw my judgment a little move there at the.
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  Speaker 2: End Browne, Okay, that it was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: I don't even look at it.
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  Speaker 1: How funny you put that.
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  Speaker 3: Barry Pepper fucking running from explosions. Oh my god, it's
• 17:11
  Speaker 3: so good. I just convert Scientology.
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  Speaker 5: No, I'm looking at the production company that produced Battlefield
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  Speaker 5: Earth and oh, that's just a joke company.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, that's your opinion, man, No it's not. It's it's
• 17:25
  Speaker 3: the opinion of the things that I looked up.
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  Speaker 5: Production company is produced by a company called Franchise Pictures,
• 17:32
  Speaker 5: who specialized in rescuing stars pet projects. Yes, yes, like
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  Speaker 5: that was because definitely a John Travolta pet project.
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  Speaker 3: All right, well, we've got some great questions for today.
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  Speaker 3: L Rod Hubbard had pictures of him.
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  Speaker 5: What I don't want to hear about that, Okay, I
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  Speaker 5: want to hear about is all scientolic Scientology.
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  Speaker 3: It is based on one of L. Ron Hubbard's books.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I've never heard of this movie before you talked
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  Speaker 2: about it.
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  Speaker 1: I only hear about it from Okay, don't let.
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  Speaker 3: Them talk you out of it. It's a solid ric.
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  Speaker 1: I want to see it more.
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  Speaker 5: I tell you what it is. It is a movie
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  Speaker 5: based on the L. Ron Hubbard, the creator of Scientology,
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  Speaker 5: science fiction writer, bad science fiction writer, like famously not
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  Speaker 5: a successful science writer Scientology. That's the thing is that
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  Speaker 5: he founded a religion and made a lot of money
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: off of founding a religion. Of the tenets of that
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  Speaker 5: religion seem very familiar to a lot of the plots
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: from some of the books that he had written before Scientology.
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: So the entire religion started being based off of the books.
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: This is one of the and they make the like
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: you're required to buy the books.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: I think if you're a scientologist.
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: Okay, first off, Whitney, Forrest Whittaker, isn't that Academy Award.
• 19:05
  Speaker 5: Win such a weird Okay, Jim always wants to die
• 19:08
  Speaker 5: on Academy award?
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: Jim, how many times have you seen this movie?
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: More than once? Whitney more than once? And that's honestly
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: a lot more than most Americans, to be honest right now.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: Not if you're a scientologist, you've probably seen it all.
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Maybe a few more if you're a scientologist. For a
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: non scientologist, more.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: Than you would expect.
• 19:36
  Speaker 5: Okay, but I mean you get like the dumbness. It
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: overtakes a lot of the scientology part.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: Why do you hate Forrest Whittaker And you know he's
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: just done such good work and he's an artist, and
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: shame on it.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: What did he win an oscar for again? Acting? Oh? Interesting?
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the thing that he throws out interesting, fast and
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: loose all the time.
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: For act got it?
• 20:01
  Speaker 5: Also, you know, both of them have produced a lot,
• 20:05
  Speaker 5: so they could have genuinely been nominated as producers as well.
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: That's your opinion, man, That's a lot of things in
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: my opinion, this evening.
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: You know, just demonstrably art, Jacob.
• 20:15
  Speaker 4: I'm into the art, Okay, I'm just I mean, I
• 20:18
  Speaker 4: get guys like you that are into science. You know,
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: you guys are just about the math. Okay, Guys like me,
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: we just appreciate the art, you know. And so just
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: a guy who's won an Academy award, I don't really
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: see and like acting, you know, I don't really like
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: question it, you know, just I assume he's got talent.
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: That's what question something.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: We got some great questions for today's show. We're starting
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: off with.
• 20:45
  Speaker 3: ADHD and food.
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: Here we go, Hello Pod Therapy crew. This question may
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: be mostly a nick question, but here we go. I'm
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: a younger ish adult female who has been a diagnosed
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: and is medicated for ADHD.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: I think the.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: Medication works great, no complaints about symptoms, et cetera. For
• 21:08
  Speaker 4: the past five ish years, I've been taking my food
• 21:11
  Speaker 4: slash fitness pretty seriously, trying to increase muscle and decrease fat.
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: I've learned that I do best working out first thing
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: in the mornings, and anything after that is honestly awful.
• 21:25
  Speaker 4: Usually I grab something like a banana on the way
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: out the door in the mornings in order to take
• 21:31
  Speaker 4: my meds and make sure my stomach isn't empty for
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: the workout. At first, I used to take a pre
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: workout and protein bar prior to the gym, then protein
• 21:42
  Speaker 4: shake after, but my stomach decided that was a no go.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: After a year or two, I feel like the same
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: weird thing keeps getting worse. I know macros, what I
• 21:54
  Speaker 4: should eat, et cetera, but it has gotten to the
• 21:58
  Speaker 4: point that if my body doesn't want on whatever the
• 22:01
  Speaker 4: thing is I'm trying to eat, if I force myself
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: to eat it, I will near instantly vomit. I feel
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: like a complete idiot, a spoiled brat child saying that,
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: but honest to God, this is what happens. I literally
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: have thrown up out of my car window so many
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: times involuntary trying to choke something down that I have
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: to mark on the paint of my driver's side door.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: Even though I clean it off as soon as humanly possible.
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: I sew badly want to just eat my grilled chicken, veggies,
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: overnight oats, and fruit. But if it isn't whatever my
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: body decided has the green light today, No matter how
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: much my conscious mind is happy to eat whatever, it's
• 22:49
  Speaker 4: this weird unconscious part that literally refuses to allow it.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: I usually have one or two safe foods at a time,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: but they're usually something stupid, like dried pineapple with absolutely
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: nothing on it. It has to only have organic pineapple
• 23:07
  Speaker 4: on the label. Why no clue? This is not just
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: the most ridiculous thing in the world, but is obnoxious
• 23:15
  Speaker 4: when it comes to grocery shopping, meal prepping, et cetera,
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: and is especially not great for hitting my macros. I
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: haven't been able to hit macros in months because of this.
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: It is not one specific food or food group, time
• 23:30
  Speaker 4: of day, location.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: Et cetera. It shifts.
• 23:34
  Speaker 4: I try to track most things and have been trying
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: to find a pattern, but cannot. I typically eat buy
• 23:41
  Speaker 4: mostly clean foods, rarely eat out, et cetera. So I
• 23:45
  Speaker 4: doubt it's that when I do eat out, like more
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: than one meal in a row, that isn't more along
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: the lines of cleanish. I mentally and physically feel like shit.
• 23:57
  Speaker 4: I had not had much luck thinking about even where
• 24:00
  Speaker 4: to maybe possibly turn to deal with this where someone
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: would actually take me seriously and not just view this
• 24:06
  Speaker 4: like an oversized, spoiled brat child until I saw a
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: post on Facebook that was something to the effect of
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: adhd oh, shoot, I forgot to eat. I'm hungry a
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: SD but this food isn't the right food autism slash DHD. Welp,
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: guess we're not eating today.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: No, I do not have.
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: ASD diagnosis, but it is the first thing at all
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: that has even hinted at something resembling what I'm dealing with.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: So I'm reaching out to you all. Has anyone ever
• 24:41
  Speaker 4: heard of something like this? Any advice on where to
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: turn nick, ideas as a personal trainer slash fitness guy,
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: ideas of unique ways to hit macros?
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Help As I sit here with my half finished protein
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: iced coffee that is actually my favorite, and I want
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: to finish so bad, but my body decided MEH, if
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: you drink more, you'll vomit, So try again later. Uugh
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: CI signed the Frustrated Foodie Pronouns are she and her? Okay,
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: that's odd. Yeah, I'm not familiar with this. Yeah, it
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: seems very because my first thought to this, which is
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: something that you obviously writer thought about right away too,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: which is maybe it's a timing thing, because there is
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: kind of that belief which has kind of been disproven,
• 25:37
  Speaker 3: which is like that that you have like a window
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: of time after a workout, well like you got to
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: get your protein in within thirty minutes of working out
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: that way. Yeah, yeah, which is there's no scientific support
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: for that.
• 25:48
  Speaker 5: I always hear it, like the pre workout stuff and
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: the and the post workout and all the different things,
• 25:53
  Speaker 5: and I do kind of go like, I mean, I
• 25:55
  Speaker 5: hear you, like, I'm not saying those things don't do anything.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but it seems notice it's overblown. The pre workout
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: basically is to provide your body energy to get through
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: the workout, right, So yeah, like creotine monohydrate is kind
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: of like the most common pre workout, and all that
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: really does is it gives you energy so that you know,
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: if if you do if you're doing a bench press
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: and you do three sets of ten reps and then
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: you basically you multiply those reps by those sets by
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: the amount of weight that you moved, that's your total volume, right,
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: And a pre workout basically gives you a little bit
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: more energy to get a few more reps in so
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: you can increase your overall volume for the workout. Okay,
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: that's how that works. So the timing for that is
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: important only because it needs to happen before the workout
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: so you have the energy during the workout.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: But as far as like a window for you know,
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: your body getting in the protein, the best way to
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: get in protein actually is to do it throughout the day.
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: So if you do it, you know, break the day
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: into four quarters and get you know, whatever your macro
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: is for that day for protein, divide that by four
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: and make sure you get that within each window. Oh,
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: just so it's spread out. You don't want to have
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: it all at once. But there's no real window like that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: But obviously, writer, like you thought of that, and that
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: doesn't seem to be the issue because like I've I've
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: had that before too, where like after a workout, if
• 27:24
  Speaker 3: I try to have a big meal, I just my
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: body just doesn't want it, Like it's it's tired, it's
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: it's doing other things. It doesn't want to stop what
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: it's doing to start to digest food. Yeah, so if
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I eat a whole bunch, it's just like, Nope, we're
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: not dealing with this right now. Let's throw this up
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: so we can get back to doing what we're repairing
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: the body. Yeah, right, But obviously you thought of that,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: which is yeah.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: Well, like interesting, how.
• 27:49
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: The macros thing is always interesting to me and innocence
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: that like when I've tried to stick with macros in
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: the past, it definitely helps with like how your body
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: looks per se, like composition wise. Sure, but I guess
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: I would ask the writer, maybe we don't know why
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: your body is like rejecting some of these foods at
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: certain times, And that sounds like something that might be
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: worth looking into, either with a doctor or with a
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: therapist kind of combined to see what's going on if
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: it is more mental, if it is more something physical,
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: is your body having maybe a reaction to something.
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: Like first thing I thought was gluten?
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, And I was just having this discussion today
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: with a friend who's like on a health journey, and
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: they were talking about increasing protein. But like dari already
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: doesn't do well with me. But Way in particular, I
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: was eating it and I would get these sharp pains
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: in my chest and I was like, I realized it
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: was from I was drinking a smoothie, but there was
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: Way in the smoothie, like the protein power. So I
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: really can't do like way protein and so ever, you know,
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: every fitness person's like, oh, just do protein shakes, and
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: I'm like, I gotta find one that's not doesn't have
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Way in it plant based. There's some plant based ones.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: Then it's like do they taste Not that they have
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: taste great.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: But will they be like palatable?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: And so then I can kind of relate to the writer,
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: because yeah, some days I'm just like, oh, I'm literally
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: force feeding myself chicken to a point. But protein is
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: filling to start with, so you're like, oh, I need
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: so many grams. It can it can feel mentally draining.
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: And so I guess what I would ask maybe of
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: view two Nick, is like, what do you think is
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: more important as you know, a mental health therapist, but
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: also going into the health and fitness side of it,
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: like is it more important just to.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Like keep food down?
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: What's the balance between Like, yeah, you don't want to
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: force feed yourself in vombit.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: That's not good for.
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: You, right, So what what would be a more manageable
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: goal while they figure it out, Like how how important
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: are macros or how important is it to.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: Listee your body more?
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: Depends on what your goal is. Yeah, right, Like, so
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: I've got a few of my clients that I'm working
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: with with right now, my my in person clients. They're
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: not like I got one of my clients. It's funny.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: He's a neurologist and like interesting, yeah, and so his
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: his when he first started working with me, like one
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: of his like he just wanted to get healthy, you know,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: And that's it. He's just like he's he's older, and
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: he just like I want he understands, like he understands
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: the health aspect of it, and he understands that like
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: one of the best deterrence for long term like disease
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: is muscle mass, like lean muscle mass, and so he's like,
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: I I want to build up more muscle because that's
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: important for longevity and all that. So like, okay, cool,
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: But every once in a while he keeps talking about
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: he wants to do a six hundred pound deadlift. Yes,
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: it's like, all right, well, what what exactly are? Because
• 30:49
  Speaker 3: because we can, we can do both of those, but
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: they're gonna be different paths. So it's going to be
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: it's gonna be differently. Yeah, And so like how important macros?
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: I guess it really depends on, like how what is
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: your goal that you're trying to accomplish, you know, with
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: the with most people, you know, they want to they
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: want to lose weight, and so ultimately you want a
• 31:14
  Speaker 3: caloric deficit, but you're still want to pay attention to
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: what those macros are because like you can be in
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: a caloric deficit and be incredibly unhealthy if you're not
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: getting enough protein or if you're not getting enough carbs
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: or lipids or whatever. It is, like you still have
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: to have a good mix of all of that. So
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: I don't know, like I I get what the writer's
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: talking about, Like, Okay, well maybe I just need to
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: like back off of like paying attention to the macros
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: and just figure out the keeping food down part. Yeah,
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: And I would agree with that, like that's probably where
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: you want to go. But I get the writer's frustration.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, I've been dealing with this for a
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: while I'm no closer towards the solution, and now I'm
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: getting further away from my health goals.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did want to telerator too. They mentioned this twice,
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: feeling like a spoiled spoiled brad or I'm like, yeah.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Oh, back off, honey.
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: Where stuff happens when we are like trying to yeah,
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: add different foods. And I know you said after a
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: year or two, so you've been doing it a while,
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: then your body started reacting, so it might feel silly
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: to you, but that's not silly, Like, yeah, who knows
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: what's going on? Maybe there is a food allergy. Allergies
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: are introduced at different times in our lives, especially as
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: uh oh, I think you said you're a woman, like
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: our hormones are fluctuating different times of our lives.
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Like that'll affect stuff, and yeah, tell me if I'm wrong.
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: But with ADHD there's like, oh my gosh, maybe the
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: ADHD specialist here can share, especially with like anahistamines or
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: something like that. With ADHD, come back to me, you
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: know later, I'll I'll figure it out. But yeah, and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: so it makes me wonder if there are maybe allergic.
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: R it's a whole nother yes, And the writer seems
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: to be saying, like, look, I have tried every single
• 33:05
  Speaker 4: door to explain this, right, and like that's the frustration
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: that I can really appreciate, where it's like, yo, is
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: this being a woman?
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Is this hormones?
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: Is this autism spectrum?
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: Is this ADHD?
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: These are all fair hypotheses, And there's actually a lot
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: of humans out there that are like I haven't quite
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: landed on like a diagnosis, right, but like I'm struggling,
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: and I just I lack consistency, I lack discipline, I
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: lack the ability to follow through even though I'm completely
• 33:38
  Speaker 4: crystal clear on what it is I need to be
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: working on. And it is problematic because like, on one hand,
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: I want to point to that as part of the
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: human condition, right, Like I don't want it to always
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: be like that's that there's a pathology. All the rest
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: of us can handle our shit, but you who have
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: a mental illness can't. Like I don't want there's.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: No reason to add You're already deal with a lot.
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: There's no reason to now add judgment.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's what I'm Yeah, we.
• 34:06
  Speaker 5: Don't need another problem, and that's what judgment is. Like,
• 34:09
  Speaker 5: we got problems, let's just fix the problem.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: Well, And I get where people come from, because you know,
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: I appreciate that they're a place you're like, so what
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: is wrong with me? And it feels like there needs to
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: be a more medical explanation and there's something about that
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: that's like validating, and I appreciate that. But yeah, more
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: than the diagnosis is really just a solution.
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I know, I definitely empathize with Whitney's point two of
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: like it's you're trying to hit a moving target as
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: you get older. Yeah. Sure. Like so I've spent in
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: my own little journey over the last like three weeks
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: figuring out like, Okay, I gotta do something different because
• 34:45
  Speaker 3: like my gut is not doing well, and so I
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: just figured it was coffee, and I cut out coffee.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: And I went like two weeks with no coffee, and
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, I'm feeling a little bit better.
• 34:58
  Speaker 3: And then I had a bowl of cereal and then
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: I was right back to where I was. Cereal. Yes, cheerios, Okay,
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: what kind of cheerio? Okay? I like that, Whitney. First off,
• 35:10
  Speaker 3: I'm really proud of both of us. I like that
• 35:12
  Speaker 3: we're on the exact same page.
• 35:14
  Speaker 5: We're both assuming it's the most boring fucking cereal I'm
• 35:18
  Speaker 5: playing and you were just wrong because it was funny,
• 35:19
  Speaker 5: nut cheery.
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: That I love that cereal vomit cheerios. Then I discovered like,
• 35:28
  Speaker 3: oh no, it's milk.
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm gonna say.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all of a sudden, and this is just within
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: the last year, but all of a sudden, like any
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: time I have milk, it's just it's not good. Is
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: that you two? You can't be doing this.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: I got the wrong coffee at Dutch Bros. They gave
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: me I get their Golden Eagle with either almond or
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: oat milk, And one day I didn't realize right away.
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: I'm just like drinking my drink on my way to
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: the office and like minutes to the tea, like I'm
• 35:58
  Speaker 2: about to pull in.
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: I was like, mm no, I canceled sessions.
• 36:03
  Speaker 3: No, that's an expensive mistake.
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: It was not good, Like I cannot and I almost
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: cut the first one.
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: Shore I was like, I'm sorry, you got to go
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: by poop, But I didn't say that girls don't poop.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, of course that's silly of me.
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, guys, I vomited during eighth grade health class.
• 36:27
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I've told that, sorry.
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: But yeah, I found it later.
• 36:30
  Speaker 2: These half and half like not even just milk, like
• 36:34
  Speaker 2: heavy milk you.
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: Handle half and half that was just cream, dude. Yeah,
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: that's what I do. That's what I know. That will
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: fund lactose tolerant.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: I think I have an allergy because.
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: You tolerate lactose.
• 36:47
  Speaker 2: We bought, we buy the lactate, Like, what's that lact
• 36:51
  Speaker 2: tape fair No, fair life milk that's like lac tastes
• 36:54
  Speaker 2: free or whatever, like doesn't have the lactate in it
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: or whatever, And no, my stomach still it's not as
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: but it does not like it.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Still, I think I have a legit.
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: Like taste of oat milk. I don't like the vanilla ones.
• 37:10
  Speaker 5: I think are the sweetened ones. I don't like the
• 37:11
  Speaker 5: sweetened ones. Like the plain unsweetened oat milk has a
• 37:15
  Speaker 5: nice smooth flavor to it.
• 37:16
  Speaker 3: I like it.
• 37:17
  Speaker 5: I like that anything that you need to cook, like
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: if you need a milk replacement for cooking, oat milk
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: works really well for that, or for like a sour
• 37:25
  Speaker 5: cream substitute recipe as well.
• 37:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, so I don't know if you guys are comfortable
• 37:30
  Speaker 4: with social Darwinism, but basically it would argue that I
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: am the superior species and that you guys should.
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: Be drinking milk over.
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: I think over the last eight years of doing the show,
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: we've proven otherwise.
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: I think that I'm the superior species.
• 37:48
  Speaker 3: Clearly.
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: I mean clearly, I am the superior genetics. I'm younger
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: than you two old bucks, okay, first off, and then
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: with this bitch, she can't even handle some half an half,
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: all right, So nobody would have put their money on
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: me to be the guy that would survive the four
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: of us.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: I would argue, even with your argument, I don't think
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: there's any additional money coming in.
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick break, and when we kind of,
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: I don't know if we came to a conclusion with this,
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 38:21
  Speaker 5: I honestly think we kind of did. I think did
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: like the best that we could. Yeah, this is a
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: tough one and I'm sorry.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: I don't have makes your stomach feel okay for now?
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: And maybe do maybe going for some extra texting?
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would say, also, just be kind to yourself,
• 38:37
  Speaker 3: because like when you're dealing with stuff like this and
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: you don't know, especially with food. It is so frustrating
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: and it's so difficult, you know, because and you're just uh,
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: you know, I talk about Laura all the time like
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: being you know, kind.
• 38:51
  Speaker 5: Of silly act disease. Nobody likes Laura, and then she
• 38:55
  Speaker 5: also has like allow.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: For this, and she never signed up for this show,
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: and she's like for a lot of people, she's the
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: person they think of as silly acting.
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: But like like when you have like an allergy and
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: your skin breaks out, and it's like, okay, well, now,
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: what in the fuck am I supposed to do? Is
• 39:13
  Speaker 3: it detergent? Is it soap? Is that the sheets? Is
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: it like non?
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Is it the grass in my vacuum tract?
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: And so you have to like one by one and
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: it is so frustrating. And it is the world's largest
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Rubik's cube. So be kind to yourself. Yes, you know,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: stick with it. Just continue to try to be scientific
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: about it. Uh, recruit some experts, you know.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: First, That's what we always learned, I think.
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: So do you want to rule out medical stuff before
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: diving into like is this a mental Have y'all ever
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: done an allergy?
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: Study the thing where they know they that's old school.
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: They don't do Pokey.
• 39:51
  Speaker 5: The Pokeys thing is thirty years ago. It's not even
• 39:55
  Speaker 5: like kind of current anymore. As they just did a
• 39:58
  Speaker 5: like a crazy panel. It's like allergies and things that she's,
• 40:02
  Speaker 5: uh what it's like less than analogies yea, sensitivities all
• 40:07
  Speaker 5: these different things and I mean huge, yeah, everything on there.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: Well and if you're going through and check it or
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: X and all this different stuff on there and then
• 40:18
  Speaker 5: looking at it with a doctor and the doctor is
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: going like this and this and this are probably gonna
• 40:22
  Speaker 5: drop off once you get rid of this one. So
• 40:24
  Speaker 5: once you cut, Like almonds were one that came up,
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: and she was like the doctor said, like, once you
• 40:30
  Speaker 5: get rid of dairy, then the almonds when it's gonna.
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: Go away and you're gonna be fine with almends. These
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: things are attached. Yeah, but see I think that case
• 40:40
  Speaker 3: in point like that's how like if you don't have
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: a blood test right and a doctor to walk you
• 40:46
  Speaker 3: through that, how would you ever figure that out? You
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: would never know. That's insane. There's so many layers. It's
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: like okay, well if I can't I can have almonds.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: But I can have almonds only if I don't have dairy.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: Who you would never act those two dots.
• 41:01
  Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, you're gonna go like you're gonna spend your
• 41:03
  Speaker 5: life going like I can't eat almonds.
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: So writer, you need to go see SHA's doctor. That's
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: I think that's where we're at.
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: No, I would go see a doctor if if you are,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: if you're speaking literally in your letter and you can't
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: keep things down, I want you to go see a
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: doctor just ru rule it out. Yeah, because go get
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: a good you know, get tell them, tell them what's
• 41:22
  Speaker 5: going on. Say, you know, I don't know if this
• 41:25
  Speaker 5: is a physical thing or a mental thing or a combination,
• 41:27
  Speaker 5: but I just want to rule ship out. So let's
• 41:30
  Speaker 5: let's just test anything and everything that we can. If
• 41:33
  Speaker 5: you don't have insurance, that gets trickier.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Sorry, But then once we've got that, then we can
• 41:40
  Speaker 3: deal with like the macro exactly, and then we can
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: do then because then we know, like it's kind of
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: like cleaning off the windshield before we drive someplace, like,
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: let's let's make sure we know where we're going first,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: and then we can start to navigate.
• 41:53
  Speaker 5: The best piece of advice I think i'd probably give
• 41:55
  Speaker 5: is is really like you're you're worried about a few
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: different things right now, and I'd like you to stop that.
• 42:01
  Speaker 5: I'd like you to not worry about all these different
• 42:03
  Speaker 5: things at the same time. So you're worried about like
• 42:06
  Speaker 5: eating and getting that nutrition and everything, and you're also
• 42:09
  Speaker 5: worried about the health journey and weight loss and fitness
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: and all these other things too. Maybe pause the fitness
• 42:17
  Speaker 5: part of this for a moment while you figure out
• 42:20
  Speaker 5: the eating part. Let's let's take some worry off the plate.
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: You don't you don't have to do the fitness you don't.
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: You don't have to to achieve your fitness, your your
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: ultimate fitness goal. Right now, Let's figure out how to
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: eat a sandwich first, and then after we figure out
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: just the eating of the sandwich and keeping it down,
• 42:39
  Speaker 5: then we get back to like, Okay, now, now what
• 42:41
  Speaker 5: do I want to eat? Now that I figured out
• 42:43
  Speaker 5: how I can eat again, Now now we figure out
• 42:45
  Speaker 5: what was going on with that, we.
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: Solve that problem. That's fair. Good. Now let's move on
• 42:50
  Speaker 3: to the next thing.
• 42:51
  Speaker 4: That's fair getting kind of reductions with it. I think
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: once you've figured out how to fitness challenge in your
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: butt m hm, then own only then writer.
• 43:02
  Speaker 3: You can always email me to Nick at mentalfit personal
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: training dot com and then I can connect you to
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: a nutritionist I know.
• 43:09
  Speaker 4: Also you can email me a gym at mental fit personal.
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: Demon dot com. Yeah, he goes by mailer demon. Where
• 43:20
  Speaker 3: to take quick break?
• 43:21
  Speaker 4: When we come back, we're discussing travel anxiety.
• 43:24
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  Speaker 1: I told Peter Aboudy, who's Oh my god, that's so true?
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Is true? It is so true.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: When you look her up, you're like Natalie Apartment, Oh
• 43:59
  Speaker 4: yeah yeah, not Kia Nightly, but not not Kiara Knightley.
• 44:04
  Speaker 3: Like it's they're close enough. So I'm with you on this.
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: H We've got some trivia for today. I assume, oh
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: you were looking at your phone. I thought you had trivia.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: I have questions. No, okay, famous first from Emma. What oh,
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: let's go Jacob, all right? What was the first country
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: in the world to grant women the right to vote nationally? Bro?
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: Let me tell you right now. I got you on this. Huh,
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: all right, let me help you out.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, Yeah, because he's been needing your help all night.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I got you. Ah, help me out, jim My man,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: doubt me. It's Thailand. Thailand.
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: They were about that women's suffrage. Huh, all right, way
• 44:51
  Speaker 4: ahead of schedule, more than you think it is.
• 44:55
  Speaker 5: I don't know who was first, but I know that
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: so far, every one who has done it did it
• 45:02
  Speaker 5: way too early.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: Yes, only regret, because if that's where we're at, only regret.
• 45:09
  Speaker 5: I don't know if the current state of the US
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: federal system is because we gave women the vote, Yes,
• 45:18
  Speaker 5: but I don't know it's not because it's all.
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: Has it gotten better? Has it gotten better? Same thing
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: we told the last writer.
• 45:27
  Speaker 5: I just want to solve one problem at a time,
• 45:29
  Speaker 5: if that means taking the vote away from women to
• 45:31
  Speaker 5: see if that was the problem.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: That you want to check.
• 45:33
  Speaker 4: That's a science move and that's just a variable thing.
• 45:37
  Speaker 3: Now I just want to welcome everyone to the manisphere.
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Joe.
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: Give me the options. Your options are New Zealand, Sweden, Austria,
• 45:50
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Australia. Oh I might and Finland. Damn it,
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: there's a hook. Those are all good. Go south. I'll
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: go to Sweden. No ship. Can I get a steel
• 46:05
  Speaker 3: whitney for the.
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: Steam sh Finland?
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: No right? Give me Australia. Points for Nick it was
• 46:18
  Speaker 3: New Zealand.
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: I wanted to move there.
• 46:22
  Speaker 3: Oh oh, let's let's do a Guest of the year.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: Bonus points. Oh two thousand. Right to vote. This is
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: when women got the right to vote in New Zealand.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: I have no idea. I'll give you in New Zealand.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: Crisis, right, I have no idea. I like eighteen hundreds,
• 46:47
  Speaker 5: seventeen hundred, nineteen hundred.
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: I'll give you, tell you what, let's do this. I'll
• 46:51
  Speaker 3: give you a year. Okay, you go sooner or okay.
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: Bonus points are for Jacob. It's his question. Will go
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: nineteen ten? Go north? Go North? Out of respect?
• 47:06
  Speaker 5: I didn't know what you meant when you said go
• 47:08
  Speaker 5: south to the four questions, I don't know what you mean.
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: Now, there's no way they did this before nineteen ten.
• 47:16
  Speaker 5: Listen, I know, I'm really not sure that New Zealand
• 47:20
  Speaker 5: was around before nineteen ten. I don't know when they
• 47:24
  Speaker 5: became a country.
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: Go north.
• 47:26
  Speaker 5: I'll say it happened before. That happened earlier than nineteen ten.
• 47:30
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna bet that when New Zealand became a country,
• 47:34
  Speaker 5: I bet that they never didn't have the right to vote.
• 47:37
  Speaker 5: I bet as long as New Zealand has had voting,
• 47:40
  Speaker 5: the women had the right to vote.
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: I bet. It's a trick question, and New Zealand is awesome.
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: I don't have that information, but let's go with it,
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: all right. Eighteen ninety three, all right, Whitney, Jesus, who
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: knows when New Zealand became a country. Who was the
• 47:56
  Speaker 3: first person to walk in space?
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: Oh? Don't the first person to walk in space?
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: Give me options?
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: Okay, your options are.
• 48:10
  Speaker 5: Ah, New Zealand found Oh no, that's British colony eighteen forty.
• 48:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was like there's indigenous people, so they became
• 48:17
  Speaker 2: they became a British colony in eighteen forty.
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: Okay, I'm gonna keep looking.
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: All right, sit on that. Give me options?
• 48:24
  Speaker 5: Uh, Yuri Gear, Gary Garnagaron, Uri Gagaron, Neil Armstrong, Alexei Leonov,
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: buzz Aldron.
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: To walk in space, yes, not walk on the moon.
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: Correct, to walk in space. Buzz Okay, go, thank you.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I don't know. Buzz Aldron is what I'm gonna say.
• 49:00
  Speaker 3: Oh, I thought you were buzzing in to answer the question.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: It's already your question. Definitely mean, No, it was not buzz.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna take a Alexi what read me back to.
• 49:16
  Speaker 3: Leonov? Yeah? That guy?
• 49:18
  Speaker 5: No, it's line off. Sorry guy, that's on me. I'm
• 49:23
  Speaker 5: a silly bit guy.
• 49:25
  Speaker 3: Yes it was.
• 49:26
  Speaker 4: Hey, so you're a Gregarin, I believe is the first
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: human ever to go into space. The Russians accomplished that
• 49:34
  Speaker 4: first after Sputnik. They got the first guy to orbit,
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: and obviously Buzz is the second human effort to touch the.
• 49:43
  Speaker 3: Movie Hey Jim, what was.
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: It?
• 49:46
  Speaker 3: What was the first film to gross one hundred million
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: at the US box office? A? Definitely options? Iron Eagle Fuck? Yeah, okay, Jaws,
• 50:01
  Speaker 3: Star Wars, The Godfather or.
• 50:05
  Speaker 4: Et So this weekend I didn't get to tell you guys,
• 50:08
  Speaker 4: this is the Patreon. I went to the John Williams
• 50:11
  Speaker 4: Philharmonic Orchestra live performance at Smith's Center because I'm fancy
• 50:17
  Speaker 4: and because I support Jacob.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: Was John Williams there, I couldn't be sure.
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna go see the notebook the Smith's Center on Tuesday.
• 50:25
  Speaker 3: There's the notebook like just playing the score. I think
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: Laura's going this weekend playing. Oh there's a play.
• 50:32
  Speaker 4: Oh that's nice center, that's nice to go on anyway,
• 50:36
  Speaker 4: So I was surprised when they played Jaws at like
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: how early that was and John Williams is Pantheon, and
• 50:45
  Speaker 4: like how powerful it was, and just like listening to
• 50:47
  Speaker 4: a symphonic orchestra played Jaws is like fuck, this is
• 50:50
  Speaker 4: like legitimately a score. So I'm gonna go with Joe.
• 50:55
  Speaker 3: I did not, you know, it's really cool.
• 50:56
  Speaker 4: So like I got seats there when I went for Chris,
• 51:00
  Speaker 4: and I sat in the balcony, the cheap seats, and
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: then they called me back and they were like, hey,
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: we saw that you came. Would you like to come
• 51:07
  Speaker 4: back for like a very affordable price and sit in
• 51:10
  Speaker 4: like the good.
• 51:10
  Speaker 3: Seats And so they put me in the good seats.
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: Really cool man. I liked it a lot, So anyway,
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: I'm going with Jaws. Yes, hell yeah, that's it Earth.
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: None of us are. You don't know, Go ahead, Whinney.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: It is John Glynn.
• 51:29
  Speaker 2: I know that astronaut. I was like, that's only astronaut.
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I know so little there for myself.
• 51:36
  Speaker 3: Am I winning because I got it with I got
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: one point because he was the one that they said
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: in the movie Hidden Figures. Yes, that was the mission.
• 51:47
  Speaker 3: I think that they were trying to curious.
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: My grandpa was friends with him.
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: Wow, grandpa lived in Texas, so that's fair.
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: He was an aerospace engineer.
• 51:57
  Speaker 4: Oh oh there you go. Okay, Wow, it's super cool.
• 52:01
  Speaker 4: All right, I'm winning. Next question, I have winning travel
• 52:06
  Speaker 4: travel anxiety. Dear doctor Jacob and the others, I have
• 52:12
  Speaker 4: what I call travel anxiety. I've talked with the therapists
• 52:15
  Speaker 4: before about this, and clearly it's time to revisit that
• 52:19
  Speaker 4: and make an appointment. But I'm curious what you all
• 52:22
  Speaker 4: have to say about it. The day or two before
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: a big trip or a vacation, I start getting nervous.
• 52:28
  Speaker 4: My stomach goes crazy, and I start secretly wishing that
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: the trip would get canceled so I could do some
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: acting and say, oh.
• 52:36
  Speaker 3: No, what a shame.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: I was really looking forward to this trip. The anxiety
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: almost always censors around an irrational fear of getting sick
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: or having in a bathroom emergency at an inopportune time
• 52:51
  Speaker 4: while I'm in a foreign or strange place and inconveniencing
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: the people I'm traveling with. It's definitely worse when the
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: destination is somewhere I've never been before. I've even noticed
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: this quote fear of the unknown end quote. An anxiety
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: start starting to creep into my daily life whenever I
• 53:10
  Speaker 4: have to do something out of my usual routine. Once
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: the anticipation is over and I'm actually doing the thing
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: or finally at the destination, I'm able to calm down
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: and mostly enjoy myself, but there's always an undercurrent of
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: not being able to fully relax and enjoy the experience.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: When the return trip gets close, I start thinking that
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: I need to be careful, stay healthy, and not eat
• 53:34
  Speaker 4: or drink anything to adventurous because we're leaving again pretty
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: soon and I don't want to have a bathroom emergency
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: on the plane. But of course ninety nine percent of
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: the time, everything works out fine and nothing negative happens
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: to me. And the kicker is that as soon as
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: we get back home, I almost always have the feeling of, hey,
• 53:55
  Speaker 4: that was pretty fun. I wish we could go back,
• 53:58
  Speaker 4: and I'm always left with warm feeling and memories from
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: the trip. I've tried all the usual self talk stuff like, hey, me,
• 54:06
  Speaker 4: even if what your fearing did happen, you deal with
• 54:09
  Speaker 4: it in the moment and everything would probably be fine.
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: Worrying about it now is only making you feel worse
• 54:15
  Speaker 4: and might even make the thing you're worried about happen
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: because your stomach is a nots. But that doesn't seem
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: to help the anxious response my body goes through. I
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: know that getting out of my comfort zone is a
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: good and enriching thing for me to do. I don't
• 54:30
  Speaker 4: want to live like a hermit, but I fear that
• 54:34
  Speaker 4: if I was, if it wasn't for my travel loving wife,
• 54:38
  Speaker 4: I would rarely even plan trips for myself. Let me
• 54:41
  Speaker 4: know if you have any other ideas for tools or
• 54:45
  Speaker 4: thoughts thought reframing that might help with this issue. Sincerely,
• 54:50
  Speaker 4: Anonymous pronouns are he and him.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: Alan on is all.
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: I So, first off, I struggle with this because I
• 55:00
  Speaker 4: relate to this.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: All the way. Yeah, but somehow he's the most likely
• 55:07
  Speaker 3: to survive out of all Yeah, no problem, Yeah, because
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: of evolution. So no, oh my god, I I just
• 55:17
  Speaker 3: I get this so much.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: So like, yeah, tell me about your experience when travel.
• 55:21
  Speaker 4: Girl, you don't even want to know. Okay, I'm so
• 55:26
  Speaker 4: scared of pooping. I'm so scared of having to poop
• 55:30
  Speaker 4: like that is that is the worst. Like I mean,
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: you know, like if you're like, oh, let's all go out,
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: and you're like, but what if I have to poop?
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: Like, that's gonna be like your worst.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Your body doesn't just shut down. I feel like when
• 55:43
  Speaker 2: I travel, my body's like nope, we know we can't
• 55:45
  Speaker 2: do anything.
• 55:46
  Speaker 4: So you're kind of right. My body does shut down
• 55:50
  Speaker 4: on camping trips, and I'll notice I don't poop for
• 55:52
  Speaker 4: three days. Sure, But if we are going out right now,
• 55:56
  Speaker 4: if you were like, hey, guys, let's all go to dinner,
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: my first thought would be like, but what if I
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: have to poop? Like they're a nice pooping place, there
• 56:04
  Speaker 4: is going to be weird if I boop?
• 56:05
  Speaker 3: How much poop do I have to poop. There are
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: two toilets that Jim is comfortable with. There's one in
• 56:10
  Speaker 3: his house and then there's one toilet out in La Jolla, California.
• 56:15
  Speaker 3: I love that, absolutely comfortable. Okay, if I may expand
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: on your thought. If someone has rented that room, we're
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: not going to end. So let me expand on your
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: thought a little bit.
• 56:24
  Speaker 4: So when I go to hotels, like, one of my
• 56:27
  Speaker 4: things is I will always use the bathroom in the lobby.
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: I will never use it.
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: I've heard this. I have friends to do this.
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I will never like that.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: The lobby bathroom is the pooping bathroom.
• 56:36
  Speaker 3: That's the pooping bathroom.
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: I will not go potty in the bathroom that is
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: part of our hotel room because my children need to
• 56:43
  Speaker 4: use that bathroom and I'm not about to take it up.
• 56:46
  Speaker 3: They don't. You don't want your children to learn this
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: about you.
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: No, it's so funny share a hotel. You're joking, but
• 56:52
  Speaker 5: that is one Like, I'm so scared.
• 56:54
  Speaker 3: They were a hotel room with your children. Not on purpose.
• 56:58
  Speaker 4: It's an economical thing, Okay, But I don't want to.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: Image Jim thinking about his kids being by themselves.
• 57:04
  Speaker 3: In the that's true.
• 57:06
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't hitle that they're by themselves. But no,
• 57:08
  Speaker 4: I get the writer's point.
• 57:09
  Speaker 5: I I if I'm paying for the bathroom, okay, in
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: the hotel room. Yes, that I'm using the bathroom. One
• 57:17
  Speaker 5: of the bet that I'm paying. Okay, on your point.
• 57:20
  Speaker 5: On your point, one of the best pooping experiences of
• 57:23
  Speaker 5: ever in my life. I was sixteen years old.
• 57:26
  Speaker 3: Wow, this is memorable. I'll never forget.
• 57:29
  Speaker 4: I'll never forget it, So I don't I don't like
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: to talk about it a lot because they don't want
• 57:35
  Speaker 4: to flex.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: Pretend there's no cameras and no audio equipment. Go good,
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: We're just a couple of guys talking. Just a couple
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: of guys talking.
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: So Nick, When I was in high school, I went
• 57:44
  Speaker 4: to Europe.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Don't look at me when telling the start. Please just
• 57:47
  Speaker 3: look at the camera.
• 57:48
  Speaker 5: You said, there's no cameras, Yeah, just look at that.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: When I was sixteen, I went to Europe, all right.
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: I went to Italy.
• 57:57
  Speaker 4: And in Italy I went to Venice, where the gelato
• 58:02
  Speaker 4: comes from, I discovered and Florence. I'm not sure what
• 58:06
  Speaker 4: was there, but they had a discotheca and I went
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: to that and I cried at the discotheca because I
• 58:12
  Speaker 4: felt uncomfortable the whole time. And then I went to Rome,
• 58:15
  Speaker 4: where the Pope lives, and I almost bought a prayer
• 58:18
  Speaker 4: for fifty euros city. Yes, yeah, it's in Rome. I
• 58:23
  Speaker 4: went to correction. I went to Vatican City inside of Rome,
• 58:28
  Speaker 4: which is a country where the Pope lives, and I
• 58:31
  Speaker 4: almost bought a prayer.
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: What was the point I was bringing up? I don't
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: know best poop I've.
• 58:35
  Speaker 4: Ever had in my life America and world.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: I'm not necessarily against you, but it does depend on
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: where you live. Listen in Europe, I'm sorry, writer, we're
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: out of time for your question. They pay for something
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: called a water closet, and I paid for the water
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: closet best money I've ever spent in my life. It
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: was the most spot poop I've ever had in my life.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Because were you sharing a room up until?
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: No? Well like with other.
• 59:05
  Speaker 4: Europe's weird like, I mean, let's.
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: Buy yourself to Europe.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: I'm like, no, I went with a group of students.
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: So did you have to share a room with those students?
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah? We shared rooms. That's because.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Have you ever paid the poop we do every day
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: the mortgage, myse that doesn't.
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: I bought several bathrooms.
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: There's multiple vacuum a minimum of three.
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: You were paid room several bathrooms?
• 59:34
  Speaker 4: Fine, have you ever paid for a luxury pooping experience Paris?
• 59:38
  Speaker 3: It wasn't luxury. Did they do the water? It was
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: a public toilet thing that you had to pay for.
• 59:43
  Speaker 4: That's what I did. That's the same thing I did.
• 59:45
  Speaker 4: We're both the same amount of It was.
• 59:47
  Speaker 3: Not memorable to me anyway, But I digress. You poop
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: does the pop? Here's the thing like? Okay, So as
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 3: far as like different techniques, I mean, you're squeeze with
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: your a you're already doing I mean the main one,
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 3: which I think, here's the thing like it. It doesn't
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: seem like it's stopping you from doing these things. You're
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 3: still traveling, which I think is really cool. So we're
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 3: just trying to find some ways to decrease the anxiety
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: ahead of time. Yes, I think probably distraction would be
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 3: one of the best things. You're already reframing it, and
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 3: I think in a really healthy way, like you're identifying
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: the end result. Like I've done this before, I always
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: have a good time. I'm probably overemphasizing this, I'm probably
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 3: maybe making the situation worse by continuing to focus on it.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: That's working for the most part. I think the next
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: thing to do is just like, after you've had that
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: initial thought, you've reframed it, let's do some some sort
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: of distraction. Yeah.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: I think the only angle I thought of different than
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: what both of y'all shared is, you know, I had
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 2: a client not long ago who really struggled with anxiety,
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: kind of kind of a generalized anxiety. I know this
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 2: isn't so generalized it's toward travel, but certain aspects of
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: their life would come up and it would be very
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: hyper focused on that one aspect.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: So if yours is travel, it was kind of like.
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: It felt like the the fear came from the unknown
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: of like will I have to poop on this plane
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: or whatever? Like is my stomach going to be upset
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 2: this whole trip? You know what if? Because we're kind
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 2: of with anxiety imagining like worst case scenario, am I
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 2: going to be miserable and then stuck on this metal
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 2: tube flying through the air?
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Whatever?
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: So sometimes with them, what I found to be helpful
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: was kind of answering the question. But it's like yeah,
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 2: maybe am I. It's kind of like a little bit
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: of acceptance in something.
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 3: Like kind of like no, but I've heard this before,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 3: where it's just kind of like yeah, and I'll be
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: okay and all bee yeah, which yeah.
• 1:02:01
  Speaker 2: The writer touched on a teeny bit like oh, I've
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 2: gotten through it before and you know I know that
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: like some version of that, but I almost mean, like
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: to an extreme of feeling like the question is out there,
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: is this going to be a terrible trip? Is it?
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: Am I going to hop these issues?
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 2: And it's sort of like saying, yeah, yeah, I might,
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 2: And it for some reason eases to know the answer
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 2: because anxiety lives in like the EndNote, right.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 4: And it's empowering because it's like I guess that would suck,
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 4: and I know I will be okay.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: People people have upset stomachs on planes. Yes, I sent
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 2: sixteen hours on a plane. Yeah, one flight, So people
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 2: have stomach issues on that.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, oh yeah, I mean I've done the stomach
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 5: issues on flights thing before and oh it's just hell.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: Every time, but you get through it, yes, Like is
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: that the end of the world?
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, unless you get sucked out through the toilet and
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 5: the plane, in which case for you, it is the
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 5: end of the world.
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 3: Which happens a lot. It happens more than Southwest wants
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: to admit. Yes, I'll tell you that, right legal, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 3: because it doesn't happen right yeah.
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 5: Never, No, Spirit doesn't have impossible doesn't Yeah, exactly. They
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: just don't have to toilet.
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 3: You gotta swipe the card to get.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: In, and it's very there's one you have to pay for.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: Some paper towels waded up on the floor. I promise
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: you to go in there barefoot.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: Yes, I promise you in our lifetimes there will be
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 4: a pay.
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 3: For toilet on an airplane. I subscription is going by
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 3: the time we agreed to be platinum.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Okay, let me tell you how, with one subtle, small
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: little flip, the airlines can make that money and.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: We'll thank them for it. Okay.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: You keep the free bathrooms on there, Okay, and then
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 5: you have an upgrade.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 3: You have a bathroom.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: But you're right about this, Yes.
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 5: God, if you're on an eight hour flight, you're like,
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: and it's like an extra hundred bucks and you can
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 5: use the first last bathroom.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 3: No, you're paying it. You're right, I know. I mean
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 3: on things that I will drop money on.
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I will drop money to make that a comfortable experience,
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: especially if I can do it.
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: On the plane.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 5: And you can make it a free perk for first
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: last tickets. You can make an extra thing to charge
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 5: more for the class tickets as well. How many change
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 5: out one of the bathrooms, one of the sets of
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 5: dual bathrooms that are next to each other, You pull
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 5: that out and you put a single one in that space, A.
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 3: Little little bear rug at the front. I mean obviously
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: just a recliner with a hole in it. Yeah, you're
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 3: doing you're doing what trains are already doing. That's true. Yeah,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 3: because that's basically what Amtrak. Yeah, because I was looking
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 3: at Yeah, because my mother has a terrible wondering Yeah,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: tangement pulls the main train. That's what's happening. Keep my
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 3: mom's name, you got it mouth, she's not keeping out
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 3: of her mouth. Oh Mom, I've change from the t
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 3: I might be changing the two out of the three.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: Uh No. So I've been looking at at Amtrak to
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 3: get her a ticket to come down. And so they've
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: got the same thing like where you've got like you
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: can go coach and you've got the public restrooms on
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 3: each one, or you can go into a room at
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 3: and you will still share. But then you've got the bedroom,
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 3: and then you've got the family room, which both have
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: their own bathroom inside. And so even if you do
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: the room at, then yes you're you have a public
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 3: or shared bathroom, but it's a one within their train.
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 3: There are car so it's better than even that you're sharing.
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 5: Instead of sharing it with like a car of thirty people,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 5: you're sharing it with five people.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, got it. Now those five people are fucking disgusting.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 5: Yes, it's honestly the single best thing about the times
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 5: that I've been in the UH. In the sweets at
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 5: T Mobile Arena to watch things like nights games, you have.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: Your own bathroom.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 5: It's usually shared between two sweets, so it's your sweet
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: another suite that shares this.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 3: Going back, I've gone to Yeah, yeah, I just I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 3: just go in my seat. I pay for the seat.
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 3: I believe that most people did. I paid for the seat.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: There we go.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you're in the right set. Try to stop paid
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 3: for it. I didn't see any rules last time. America.
• 1:06:43
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  Speaker 3: still not true, Jacob. What was the first toy to
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 3: be advertised on American television?
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 4: Oh Jesus log log.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: Your neighbor's dog.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go away, something similar to what Jim just saying.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the slinky.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: No, I'm sorry. That was a great great options options,
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 3: There are options options, silly putty slinky. Oh well, Barbie
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: or mister potato head. Barbie's pretty old, Whitney. It's not Barbie,
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 3: you don't think so.
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be mister potato head.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: It is mister potato Yeah, good moves. Having heard all
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 3: the answers, I still think it's slinky. Yeah. I kind
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 3: of still with them on that. Uh, Jacob nineteen fifty
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 3: before or after? Oh? Before, no, nineteen fifty two. No, wow,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: First it was it was you got the parts because
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 3: you had to supply your own potato, right, Yes.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I do that adorable.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: You had to have your own potato. It makes it
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: way more interesting. Yeah, it does.
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 5: You just got a potato and had little metal spikes on,
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 5: like the little things that it would just spike into
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 5: the potato.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's still sets of them.
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 3: You find them on eBay and stuff. Extra rules. Whitney,
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 3: who was the first woman to win the Nobel Prize.
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 4: Helen Kell options trump, Helen Keller, I know this one.
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 3: God damn it.
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: I feel like I should option. Hold on. I'm going
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: to give Jacob a chance here.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 3: You can steal it.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you get this right off the bully. I'm
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 1: a feminist, so.
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 3: You know that. I believe it's Madam Cury.
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 5: I was Marie Curie, Madam Madam whatever her Marie Marie
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 5: Cury Curie correct now.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Later died from the radiation.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 1: Was someone like that.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 5: But I can quite remember studying radiation and eventually at Guilder.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, whitening of you to let a man guess get
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: the points and get nothing in return and then get demands.
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: Well I'm impressed. Yeah, and then he did the extra
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 1: explaining that we already knew.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 3: Her name was Curi.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: How do you spell it? I never heard of that.
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 3: Oh I don't know. I don't know Wedney nineteen ten
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 3: before or after?
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I should have watched that Radium girls.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: I totally watched a documentary on.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: After.
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: That's when she won her second thank you, I got
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: her first one was in eighteen oh three. All right, Jim,
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 3: what was the first food chain in the United States?
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 3: Fuck me? I mean right like.
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: McDonald's.
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 3: I'll bet you it's not. I'll bet you McDonald's like
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: the first.
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: That means there's two of them, like more than one.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 4: Give me options. It's gonna be it's gonna be some
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 4: dumb ass thing.
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 3: Go ahead, white Castle, McDonald's, Howard Johnson's, or Dairy Queen.
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 4: So ho, joser, I thought it was a hotel chain, right,
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 4: a buffet.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 3: I think it's Howard Johnson did the hotel. No, it's
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 3: an American thing, Tim Tim Tim Martin's.
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 4: I'll bet you the Hojo's is solid, all right. So
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 4: we had White Castle, which I don't feel good about it.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna let that one go.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 4: McDonald's, McDonald's, Hojo's, and Dairy Queen McDonald's.
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: Dude, I feel pretty good about Dairy Queen. I mean
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: it's kind of got a retro vibe, right it does.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: Dairy Queen.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 3: Yes, No, give me Dairy Queen. No.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 2: I tried to help you in the family a helper
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: around here, and Jacob accepted my You.
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: Did not goes to Jacob.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: What it was Johnson's McDonald's and White Castle, White Cat.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know how Johnson's No, Oh, is it McDonald's.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: No, it's got to be White Castle. No, I would
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 5: like to choose White Castle. I knew it wasn't McDonald's.
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: All I could think of was the Michael Keaton movie
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: The Founder.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking. I didn't watch that. I
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: wanted to. It's about when they started McDonald's.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: They were trying to copy.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 5: Well, no, but there are just already other chained restaurants
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 5: around that and that didn't know.
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 3: McDonald's didn't open until nineteen forty. White Castle open in Wichita,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: Kansas in nineteen.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: How you tell you all bend? So the White Castle
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 4: and White Castle closing. I just went for the first time,
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 4: like we to go in there. So it's pretty trash
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 4: really it's White Castle, but you like that's what they're known.
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know that. It's like walking into a
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 3: waffle house being like, this isn't that nice? It was
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: not around here. I was not impressed. Yeah, it was
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 3: pretty gross. So they were trying to impress. Well, it's not.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 4: The way that ship gets like spun up the no,
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 4: but like the way that she gets spun up in
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 4: Las Vegas is like the nostalgia is pumping one hundred percent.
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: So they're like, oh, White Castle.
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: There's two locations where you can go and you're like,
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: oh my god cool, or like Steak and Shake and
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 4: you're like, oh my god, this is so cool.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: People love steak and Shake here.
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 4: The one in South Point is I mean busy.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 3: Okay, have you been there?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 1: I walked by it.
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 3: Have you been there, Jacob? Not recently. I've been there
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: like once once or twice ever, Nick? Have you been there?
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 3: I haven't been to.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: How many in Texas that I got here And I'm like,
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: why the fuck? Is there a line at Steak and Ship?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's the nostalgia, right, so like it's it's just
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 4: what he wasn't everywhere, like it wasn't on the West.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: There's only like one in Vegas and it wasn't before.
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: It's like the guy. I think there's one downtown now
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: and one in South Point now. Yeah.
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just a cheap burger place. It's cheap burger,
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 4: shaken fries. It's fine. There's nothing exciting about it. But
• 1:13:21
  Speaker 4: though then the chili on spaghetti, that's right.
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 1: We don't know what it's all about.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: But anyway, right, good luck, all right.
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 4: Next question, medication updates for mental health from our friend Test.
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: Hey, my, hey, Test, Hey speaking your language?
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 3: Is that Bud? Is that why you thre? Yeah? Oh
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 3: is that a thing? Yeah?
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: Okay, it sounds like you're from Minnesota.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 3: Minnesota, Alberta.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 4: Oh Ship, Hey, my lovely besties, miss you all already,
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 4: and I haven't even been back home that long. You
• 1:13:57
  Speaker 4: may remember I sent him a letter a while back
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 4: about medication curiosity in a nutshell, I'm taking lexapro for
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 4: depression and anxiety and it levels me out, but I
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 4: can't come so frustrating.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 3: Right, Well, I went back to my doctor. By the way, nice, yeah,
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 3: dog got it? Fuck great, thanks tests.
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: It's not fair that I read the fucking questions, all right,
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 4: because I'm Ron Burgundy out here just reading what of.
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 3: The fuck they write? It's not fair. Go on.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: Well, I went back to my doctor and he referred
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 4: me to a psychiatrist to discuss other medication options. We
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 4: went through the typical intake interview and discussed my issues
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 4: a little. We settled on a few different options. We
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 4: are going to try. Number one, we are going to
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 4: lower my current dose for a period of time to
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 4: see if that helps with any side effects, and also
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 4: if it negatively affects my issues or if I can
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: work to come off of it fully. Number two, he
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: gave me a short term prescrip for well butrin. Once
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 4: I'm on the lower dose for a while, if I
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 4: feel I still need medicinal support, I can feel that
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: prescription and see how it goes and if the side
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: effects are less or non existent. Number three, of course,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 4: he recommended therapy. Everybody drink, specifically cognitive behavioral therapy from
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 4: anxiety and worry issues. Even though I'm not certain that's
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 4: my largest issue, but it is the easiest one to describe,
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 4: so he focused on that quite a lot. I tried
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 4: to explain my depression better, but I guess I just
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 4: have a hard time putting it into words. Maybe I
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: need a therapist.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: Ha ha.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: In Canada, our free quote healthcare doesn't cover mental health
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 4: other than things like group therapy, meetings and things of
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: that nature. If your job has benefits, there is usually
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 4: some coverage or discount for mental health. But unfortunately, my
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: job doesn't currently have benefits. This is a problem because
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 4: I really don't know that group sessions will be helpful
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: to me, and they often take place during work hours.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: He did give me a couple resources for lower cost
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 4: one on one therapy options, so I'll be looking into
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 4: that to see if I can supplement with my meds
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 4: with actual therapy. I'm hopeful, but frustrated. The frustration just
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 4: comes from the feeling of playing Russian Roulette with meds
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: until something works, which is exhausting and scary. Is I
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 4: have not had good experiences when switching meds. I'm going
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: to do it all and work to get a system
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 4: that works for me, and we'll see what happens or
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 4: I'll just pack up and move to Las Vegas. Is
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 4: there a park I can squad in for an extended
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 4: period of time. Just wanted to send along the update
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: and also hopefully if someone else is dealing with this, No,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 4: you're not alone, and I know it fucking sucks going
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: through the process, but hopefully it's for things to be
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: better in the long run. As always, love you all
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: sexually xoxo. Tests slightly slutty scoop.
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 2: Medication changes are a bitch because they take months, Like
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 2: like your doctor will say, try this med give it
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 2: a month, and then oh you need to change meds,
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 2: like taper off for a couple of weeks and then
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 2: start the next med and like taper up now, and
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 2: you're giving it. I mean you're months into it by
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 2: the time you've tried like maybe two medications. And then
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 2: maybe you're like, oh, there's a side effect. Do we
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 2: just add something to counter that side effect? Or like
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: test is going through, are they going to lighten it up?
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 3: Then? I mean it's almost like trying to locate a
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: food allergy.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 5: Weird.
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know what sex with all the foods.
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, libido stays up with the food allergy depending
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 2: on what the allergy is.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: This is true. Yeah, I mean the nice thing is
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: that you've got a doctor. It sounds like you've got
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 3: a pretty good relationship with that. You can you're really
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: you need to work with your doctor as like this
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 3: is a team approach, you know, as opposed to the
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: doctors just like here, take this and then well you'll
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 3: feel better to just be able to have that open
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 3: communication and give your doctor feedback as much as you
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: possibly can on what are you noticing, what are you feeling,
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 3: and and and is it going to work for you?
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: And then so hopefully to make that process as smooth
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: as possible. You know, that's my first piece of advice.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 1: I mean, we mnd know some parks in Vegas if
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 1: you need a long stay.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 3: It is getting warmer. You're not going to freeze at night.
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 3: That's really nice. Yep, warm, but that's really nice. Yeah,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 3: that's so beautiful. Don't worry about the days.
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm really glad that you're getting to try this out.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: So this is one of those things that like when
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 4: you get on the social Internet and you look up
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 4: the typical medicines that we prescribe for you know, anti
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 4: depression or anti anxiety usually discover s s R. I's right,
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 4: like the selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors. And just to take
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 4: a second on this, because we don't get to talked
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 4: about this lot, and something I think is really important
• 1:19:01
  Speaker 4: for public education. You have like all these different neurotransmitters
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: in your brain, right, So you have serotonin and dopamine
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 4: and orprian effort and all these interesting things. So like
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 4: what SSRIs selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors are doing is essentially
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 4: I just want you to imagine for a second, like
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 4: these little bathroom sinks in your brain, right, and each
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 4: sink is like dripping a different neurotransmitter. So there's a
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 4: little sink that's dripping serotonin. That's just one of the
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: neurotransmitters in your brain has a specific function. So what
• 1:19:32
  Speaker 4: this medicine is doing, what SSRIs are doing, is they
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: are inhibiting the re uptake of some of that serotonin.
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 4: So imagine that they're just like rolling up these little
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 4: tissue paper balls and they're basically just tossing them in
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 4: the sink. So you've got this dripping sink that's dripping serotonin,
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 4: and you have these little tissue paper balls that are
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 4: going into the drain, and they're basically just like stopping
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 4: the reuptake the drain of that neurotransmitter. So essentially, what
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: these medicines are doing is, over time, they're allowing you
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: to kind of marinate in your specific natural kind of
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 4: herbs and spices, in this case, serotonin. And so over time,
• 1:20:13
  Speaker 4: what we tend to there it is it's the original recipe.
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 4: So what we tend to see is that when we
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 4: allow the brain to marinade in its own serotonin, it
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 4: increases what's called the dendritic forests. So when you were
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 4: in a high school biology, you learned in your study
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 4: of the brain that the brain has all these neuron cells,
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 4: these dendrites, right, and so you have all these cells
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 4: that sort of branch out and they reach out and
• 1:20:38
  Speaker 4: they touch each other in these little synapses. What we've
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: noticed is that whenever we saturate your brain in its
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 4: own serotonin, we're not adding anything to it, that it
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 4: tends to densify the forest between all these little dendrites,
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 4: these neuron cells.
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 3: In your brain.
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: And we notice that when that happens, it has a
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 4: counteractive effect again depression and also against anxiety. So that's
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 4: what SSR eyes are now.
• 1:21:07
  Speaker 3: So go ahead, what out of that is helpful to test?
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 4: So yeah, it's come full circle. So for tests, test
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: is on a different medicine, right, So she's on well buttrin.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 4: So while buttrin is interesting because for some people when
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 4: they're on those SSRIs, they will notice one of the
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 4: side effects that we see, which is again very rare,
• 1:21:26
  Speaker 4: and a lot of people get really scared to try
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 4: out SSRIs because they're scared there's going to be a
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 4: nausea side effect, or a weight gain side effect, or
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 4: a sexual side effect. And what you really need to
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: understand is that all three of those side effects feeling nauseous,
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 4: gaining weight, and low libido or inability to climax, those
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 4: are also side effects that we tend to notice with depression.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 3: Right.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: So like when we're giving you a medicine to treat
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: an ailment, and that ailment also causes the same things
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 4: that could be side effects of a medicine, you want
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 4: to take those side effects with a grain of salt, right, So,
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 4: like for some people, and in Tessa's case, for tests,
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 4: for sure, she experienced this side effect of inability to
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 4: sexually climax, and we notice that in men and women
• 1:22:10
  Speaker 4: sometimes it is a rare side effect of what SSRIs accomplish.
• 1:22:15
  Speaker 4: So what's neat about what Tessa's doctor ultimately did is
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 4: they prescribed her well buttrim. So what we like about
• 1:22:22
  Speaker 4: well Buttrin or bupropion is the other name for it,
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 4: is that this medicine has a really cool partnering effect
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 4: with these SSRIs. So why we like well buttrim is
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 4: it will work with SSRIs and a it will augment
• 1:22:37
  Speaker 4: or boost their healing powers just all by itself. So
• 1:22:42
  Speaker 4: sometimes people aren't noticing their depressions getting better, and their
• 1:22:45
  Speaker 4: doctor keeps raising them on their like lexapro or their seertraline,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 4: their SSRIs, their prozac, And then what will happen is
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 4: we'll give them well buttrin and that adds this whole
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 4: cool magnifying effect will actually make them even more power
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 4: without having to raise it, which is really really cool.
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 4: But then the other effect that doctors tend to like
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 4: about well Buttrin bupropeon is that it actually counteracts some
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 4: of the very rare and mild side effects that we
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 4: tend to notice with ssri.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 3: So in Tessa's case.
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 4: Here, we see that she's talking about a sexual side
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 4: effect to the inability to climax that does happen sometimes
• 1:23:21
  Speaker 4: while buttrin bupropeon kicks up the efficacy of the overall
• 1:23:26
  Speaker 4: SSRI and it actually takes a bite out of that
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 4: side effect, of the sexual side effect. So generally speaking,
• 1:23:33
  Speaker 4: it's very very effective. And what's really cool about that
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: bupropion the well putrin is it's actually another kind of
• 1:23:40
  Speaker 4: reuptake inhibitor. So where you have your typical SSRI selective
• 1:23:44
  Speaker 4: serotonin reuptake inhibitor, this is anura pernephrin dopamine reuptake inhibitor
• 1:23:49
  Speaker 4: and n DRI, So it's a different kind of couple
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: of different sinks, those little dripping faucets in the brain.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 4: So again, none of these medicines are adding anything to
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 4: your neural chemistry. They're allowing your neurochemistry to enjoy more
• 1:24:04
  Speaker 4: of what it already organically makes on its own. And
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 4: so essentially all these meds pulled together can kind of
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 4: solve the problem. So what I love is about that's what.
• 1:24:13
  Speaker 3: The six hour ADHD deep dive.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 4: Very close, yeah, very very similar to that same idea.
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 3: So anyway, the point that.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to come to is like, I'm really proud
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 4: of tests because when you're dealing with stagnant depression and
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: then you start taking the meds, you're doing what you're
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 4: supposed to do and you notice you're having side effects,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 4: it's so easy to quit, it's so easy to lose heart.
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 4: And in this case, tests went back to the doctors
• 1:24:36
  Speaker 4: and told them more and they did for tests what
• 1:24:39
  Speaker 4: we actually really expect the doctors to do, which is
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 4: to prescribe her well bututrin slash bupropion, and it usually
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 4: eliminates the sexual side effects and it boosts the power
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 4: of the antidepressant. So all those things combined together, all
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 4: these little dripping syncs, together with the little clog drains,
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 4: ultimately a for a better neural chemistry, which overall causes
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 4: healing for the person.
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: I don't know about you, guys, but I'd rather hear
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 2: from a doctor than Jim.
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 3: That's fair, That's fair. I don't know.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 5: I mean, take take some ship, don't take some ship,
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 5: feel better, don't feel better?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 3: Perfect?
• 1:25:13
  Speaker 1: Thank you?
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 3: No, Here's I wouldn't throw out the therapy yet, I
• 1:25:18
  Speaker 3: mean the group therapy. If you can make it right,
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 3: give it a shot. Like worst case scenario, you're you're
• 1:25:24
  Speaker 3: out a couple of hours. But I mean there may
• 1:25:28
  Speaker 3: be some other.
• 1:25:29
  Speaker 5: Case scenario that other people in the group therapy could
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 5: team up and beat the ship out of the top.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: Huh that scenario that's worst case.
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 5: I haven't Yeah, I mean you got worst case you're
• 1:25:40
  Speaker 5: out numbering yourself.
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: Worst case you don't die from it, you're just really injured.
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: This that would be terrible. You just have to live
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: with it. Yeah.
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like that that Share movie.
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 3: It's exactly like that Share movie. Yeah. I was gonna
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 3: say it's like that Share movie. Yeah, yeah, that would suck. Yes,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: that would suck in the Share movie that Yeah, that
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: would be terrible. So anyway, I would try the group therapy,
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: give it a shot, honestly, nothing to lose, And there
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: may be other people in the group kind of going
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 3: through the same thing that maybe they've found something that's helpful,
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 3: and you can share a lot of information. There's a
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff that from group therapy they can get
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: from other people in group that's way more beneficial sometimes
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 3: than what you get even from your therapist. That's true.
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 3: Or the psychiatrist. Yeah, but do your best to not
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 3: give up on it and continue to It's it sucks,
• 1:26:36
  Speaker 3: it's a slow process. Like Whitney said, it's.
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Usually worth it though, even clients or friends who have
• 1:26:42
  Speaker 2: gone through that, like all of the metadjustments and trying
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 2: different things. The frustration is there, but most of the
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  Speaker 2: time the benefit is there too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I will say, you know, you did bring up
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  Speaker 3: a lot of anxiety about like kind of feeling like
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  Speaker 3: it's Russian Roulette with all of these meds and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: and that does feel scary. But in the grand scope
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  Speaker 3: of medicine, which I know nothing about, but we'll talk
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  Speaker 3: about it right now. It these are pretty low stakes
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  Speaker 3: with these medications. Yeah, So that's not like anything that's
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  Speaker 3: overly serious. I mean, we we still take it seriously,
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  Speaker 3: of course, but it's not anything that not life and death.
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  Speaker 3: You don't need to be, you know, too worried about.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's absolutely true. So I'm just proud of you.
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  Speaker 4: I'm proud of you for giving it a shot. I'm
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  Speaker 4: proud of you for working on it. I think this
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  Speaker 4: could be something where you know you're you're going to
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  Speaker 4: ultimately find progress and as long as it's something that
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  Speaker 4: you're you know, working on medicinally, you're going to find
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  Speaker 4: answers tests, So don't give up on this. And you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm really glad that you're willing to try the whole
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  Speaker 4: group counseling thing too. I'm actually teaching the group counseling
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  Speaker 3: So this is an invitation.
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  Speaker 4: Therapy group noudes.
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  Speaker 3: If you're listening to this stuff right.
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  Speaker 4: Now, just email me. I'll tell you where to go test. No,
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  Speaker 4: but I know the location, he does, He knows. Yeah,
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  Speaker 4: I share it with Nick just the case anything about
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  Speaker 4: it happens. But like one of the things that we
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  Speaker 4: often try to inform people about is that actually group
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  Speaker 4: counseling is as effective or more effective than individual counseling.
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  Speaker 4: And a lot of people don't know that or expect that.
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  Speaker 4: When you think of therapy, you think of one on one.
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  Speaker 4: It's really intimidated to sit with a group. But actually,
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  Speaker 4: more often than not, we tend to see that that's
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  Speaker 4: very very healing. So, you know, tests, be open minded
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  Speaker 4: because you never know if that's going to be something
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 4: that is very about not at all, tests is considered
• 1:28:43
  Speaker 4: very close minded. Yeah, just living in her little world
• 1:28:46
  Speaker 4: and unwilling to try new things.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, that's what I think of when I think
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  Speaker 3: of tests.
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  Speaker 4: Anyway, Thank you, Tess, We love you. Good luck as
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