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"If It Ain't Broke..." (Giants Recap Rd2) EP42 · DMV Mess Hall

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Hi folks, this is Rick dog. Walker the d.o.c., this is John
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kind and you're listening to the mess hall with rally captain and
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tail gate 10. What's going on rally?
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How you feeling the dead man? Dad, I'm tired, but nothing is
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going to stop me from getting this episode out.
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So let's get it. I appreciate that.
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Man. Those of you that are wondering,
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it's Monday, December, 19th at 3:15, we're rather now recording
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this needless to say, it's been a long Monday for everybody.
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I got back from the stadium at about 1:45, two o'clock last
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night. So it's pretty much a 12-hour
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day. I got to the stadium.
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About 115 after watching that World Cup game, getting pissed
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off at a kept going to extra time and penalty kicks and
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everything else. And I got stuck in so much
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traffic leaving that Stadium. It was just so a movie
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frustrating. Luckily I had a cigar that I
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just ended up puffing on while I'm sitting in traffic stop, not
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going anywhere and they got back to the house.
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And I know you had a long day having to go straight to work
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this morning at whatever time you get out.
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Yeah, man, it was like three something.
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So, That's crazy man. Yeah, you know, I always say I
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love going into work early. I'm sorry.
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Yeah, I hate going in to work early.
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I love getting off of work early so it's the the necessary evil
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that makes the world go around, you know, we all gotta gain a
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paycheck. Yeah, no.
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Yeah. Oh man.
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But man, I'd say it's going to talk to you.
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It's good to see you again after less than 24 hours, but got a
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chance to see you at the game, obviously making a round through
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Lots, how was it pregame? And Than cold.
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Well, let me tell you something. So yeah, we all know that it was
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chilly outside but for me because I get asked to go to so
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many different tailgates and to pop my head in, I walk, the lots
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and I was warm. And now, it's also because I was
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walking and I and, you know, I had a couple of those beverages.
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I mean, I have to show my hospitality and it's rude.
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I was told to, to decline someone's beverage so So hey,
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I've gotta you know, indulgent and let them know that I'm a
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good participant, you know, you invited me.
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So yes I will partake but it was just probably the crowd the most
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crowded I've ever seen. The FedEx Field parking lots
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ever the burgundy and gold. They showed up and don't get me
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wrong. Yes.
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The Giants fans were there as well.
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They did show up and I and I Said that to say because, you
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know, I had a guy. I said, I said, I really didn't
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see a giant take over, like, what I'm used to sing the
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burgundy, and gold really showed up now, maybe it was because the
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game was flexed, and they just don't want to drive down from
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Jersey wherever they from New York or whatever have you.
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But it was a lot of just burgundy and gold in.
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It, felt good seeing all those people in the parking lot in the
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stands walking through the stadium.
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I mean, it was, it was huge, man.
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An, it was mad and we had easily our most energetic tailgate of
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the Season, maybe the past five seasons, we had our regular DJ
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back, he brought in a special DJ from Ibiza.
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And I'm not talking about the nightclub in downtown d.c.
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I mean, it was just a good vibe and a lots I had legitimate
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maybe two, dozen three dozen people reach out to me to say,
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hey are you still doing that tailgate thing that I haven't
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heard from in over 15 years, you know?
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People, I haven't seen since 2012.
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We're coming out the woodwork coming back to the stadium, and
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they just wanted to be there. They want to be a part of this
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people that were telling me if they change the name.
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I'm out. Well guess what?
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Names change and I saw your asset FedEx for you so no you're
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not you know it's just different stuff and it was great to see
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that ahead of time and I was hoping you know to have that
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energy carry in into the game. But I've been doing the tailgate
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for over over 20 years now. I've never missed the kick on
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ice, not once miss the kickoff. Shut down.
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We actually brought out the Big Bertha Grill.
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I've got three flat tops, and then I've got a 6-foot grill
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that stays in my van that I don't use anymore.
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It's an old grill that still works.
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We just don't use it because I've got the flat tops.
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Well, we wanted to get the cooking done early so we could
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get inside. So we had, you know, over 12
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feet a gorilla. Space got all the cooking, dog.
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Got everything. Packed up took me. 45 minutes to
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get in the stadium. Why do you live on, Mike sellers
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to get inside that Stadium? Because if you're a season
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ticket holder, you have a special Washington gold pass and
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then that Washington gold lines the lane.
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Yeah. And they're supposed to be
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checking those Lanes, it's like a TSA PreCheck, right?
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Know, not everybody has it, but if we have, yeah, so they're not
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checking the Washington Gold Line, everyone and their mom
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from New York to wherever that doesn't have season.
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Tickets is standing in this line, and everyone's Arguing and
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screaming at each other when you got season ticket, holders
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yelling, and screaming, because you got a group of twelve Giants
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fans saying, well, no one's making me move.
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Then I get to the front of the line where they're doing
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security checkpoints and I said, yeah, we were told not to look
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for Washington goal today. We're told just to get everybody
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inside the state, so that's how my main game started.
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That's what kind of really rubs me the wrong way and piss me off
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because we don't get a lot of perks and season ticket holders
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we 50% off concessions. So, you know, non-alcoholic
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concessions which a is great if you want to buy food in the
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stadium. Yeah.
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And you know I bought nachos every once in a while we get
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fast lines in the stadium for food if they're checking half
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the time, I don't check. And then we get easier access
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into the stadium, didn't get any of that yesterday.
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And it's the first time I've ever missed kickoff and man,
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it's just, you lose money as a season ticket holder.
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When you buy season tickets, you can get the same amount of game.
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Ames individually on secondary market and pay a lot less money
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than you and I do. So that's some of my frustration
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just to kind of started off and then I get to my seat with maybe
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five minutes left in the first quarter.
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Mike, you got? I mean that was just it was such
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a cool with five minutes left in the first quarter.
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Yeah man, took me 45 minutes to get through that line god dog.
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So people have their cell phones up.
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So all of us standing in line and could watch and I was
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listening on the radio and I'm just so, Pissed off at that
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point. And then I'm going through the
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metal detector line. And then I got a guy saying, hey
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you idiot, take your keys out of your pocket which was security
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guard that work there like it says on the sign to you can keep
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your keys in your pocket and the fact that the guy called me an
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idiot. At that point, I was just angry
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and that didn't sit well with me.
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So, he and I were going back and forth to the point of his
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supervisor came over and calm him down the situation down, but
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I wasn't having it. At that point.
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I was I was just done, William S, so by the time I actually got
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to my state, I wish that the team would have put me in on
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defense, so I could have actually done something to stop
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the Giants because I was ready to rip someone's head off, man.
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I don't know about you starting linebacker tip, I would have
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deal without in Jammin. Dodger, did I John Bostick?
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I'll tell you that right now. All right, oh, man, But what was
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it like in your section? I'm assuming you got in the game
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earlier. Obviously, you know, I don't
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know if you had any other problems and I had trying to get
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in and yes, I get it. There was 80 thousand people
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there. How many thousand people there?
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The other day? The police was asked you, I just
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asked you did you get a final count and you said 80 but that's
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you're just throwing it out. I'm just sold it out to actually
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the official capacity now or 67,000, okay.
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And looking in the stands, it looked packed.
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So I would almost say is like, maybe 60 60 to 62.
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I'd say because I did see that the upper deck they had us some
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some, some yellow and red and then I saw it in club, they had
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a couple openings, but for the most part, every seat seem to be
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taken. So, I really enjoyed that man.
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You know, we put the call out, obviously Jonathan Allen.
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Put the call out, and, and the organization for the call out,
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and people came out and be, and why?
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Because this was an important game now, will we See them for
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the Browns, probably not. But they can only say that they
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came to see the most important game, even though it may have
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been a, let down to everybody. It was an important game for the
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fans. Yeah, I just didn't feel like it
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was an important game for the team and I'll say that because I
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just saw treat from the Giants and I'll talk to you in a
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minute. It felt like when the Seahawks
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lost and Washington knew that they were going to be the
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seventh seed or the 6 seed, no matter what it felt to me like
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the sense of urgency completely went away from the team that
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they weren't playing to win the game.
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And we talked about this earlier on our preview show, I needed
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River Beltran to be River Beltran and the way he called
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that game and he is All players, but the way he coached that game
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game, I felt like they were playing scared and I made it in
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time too. Well, actually I missed this
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part so I watched this on the replay.
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So it was, what was it fourth? And ten.
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Fourth and 12 from the 34 yard line, right?
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In the first quarter, Rivera opted to punt versus kick, a
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field goal at that point, I would have been a 51-yard.
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Field goal. All right.
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The Giants, caught the ball at the 5 or the seven regardless
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and they ran it back to the 30. We're on the 34.
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Yeah. So it was a four yard or change
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a field in that something. And he didn't trust Joey slide
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because apparently he didn't think he had the leg to do it
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where Joey later on the game, hit a 51-yard.
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So I was going to say that I like to get in a little early
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And shout-out to the gogo bands that played in Legends.
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Oh, it was a great great at the concert, you see burning their
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concert. Yeah.
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Say again, you see burden Davis, the W.
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Heck, yeah, I saw Vernon, bounce bounce bounce.
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Bounce didn't necessarily like the song, but at the same time,
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I'm here to support. So, I mean, that's just how it
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is. I mean, a lot of people don't
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like, left hand up, but they're there to support local artists.
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So I like to get in early and just get a feel for what?
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The punters? The kicker's or what are they
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doing during warm-ups? And I saw him hit from practice.
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He from both ends from sticking to the the west side, back to
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the east side of the spans. And I was saying I saw him
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making these, what are we doing? And so I just was weirded out,
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man. But, but it goes something that
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I said, did, you know, early on. I said, man, I just don't like
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these Giants, man. I mean, they're the ones who I
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whoo-hoo. I just feel as though no matter
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what are going to give us the most problems and here we are,
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they gave us the most problems. I mean I need to be Nostradamus
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or something man, I really do. Well we talked about earlier
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that these Giants. It's not going to be an easy
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game and then no pushover. And right, I hate to say it.
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I won my bet that I put in at Caesars sports book the other
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day because it took the Giants plus four and a half, but still
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pisses me off. I just I thought we were going
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to win the game. I didn't think we were going to
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cover the game. When we gave our stores and
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predictions, we I'll have them not covering four and a half
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point spread least, that's what I got it at.
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It was just frustrating and hearing that.
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You saw Joey make these kicks, not surprised.
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It sounds like Rivera was lying to us, again, this is actually
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what coach said about it coach early on, in the game, the
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decision to go for the punt and short yardage situation.
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Can you kind of describe the thought?
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Well, we got him. We got him pinned.
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You know, we figured from where we were, we were going to get
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him pinned. Ron, you said you want to get
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them pinned on that fourth down was or something with the wind
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or anything like that. With the conditions, what we
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thought the ball would hang up and we'd be able to get the
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coverage down there and get into position.
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You know, earlier in the game. We did the same thing, but trust
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kick a little bit short and they, you know, they popped it
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for about 20 yards in a return, but we thought would get this.
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The, the second one, we would be able to get it pinned, into the
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into that corner. With the first one.
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I guess it was the fourth down. Did you did you think consider
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going for a field goal on that one?
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Oh, The Very Yes. And very first thing.
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No, because of the Winds and because of watching, Joey kick
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and the same thing when we We came out in the second half
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watching, Joey kick. You know, we were a little
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concerned about that ball. Coming up short.
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I just, I don't get it, man. It's to me, it's a playoff game.
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You win this thing, your 90 plus percent of making the
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postseason. Yeah, he just didn't coach to
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win the game. And to me, it was coaching
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scared, and you have two weeks to make this game plan.
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You have two weeks to prepare for the Giants, and you just
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played them two weeks prior. And you tied, I just I don't
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know what the game plan was and what they wanted to do and I
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know you haven't had a chance to go back and watch the game, but
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I went back and watched the game and I didn't realize some of the
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stats for the game. I didn't realize it.
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Brian Robinson was averaging over seven yards, a carry.
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You know, why would you take the ball out of that young man's
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hands when he's having over seven yards, a carry?
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And I'm stuck in traffic, I mentioned earlier.
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So I decided to call in to Doc Walker and linell.
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I want to 67 and fan and chat with Doc.
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And, you know, it felt to me like Scott Turner was
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auditioning. His offense for a head coaching
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job someplace else you think? Cuz that's what it felt.
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Felt like because when you have Brian Robinson, 12 carries for
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89 yards 12 carries, that's it with a seven point four yard
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average, Antonio Gibson 5 for 21 yards with a 4.2 yard average,
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so your two running backs. Only carry the ball 17 times.
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Those 17 times, gets you over 100 yards.
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Why do you go away from that? And okay, you're down 14 to 3 at
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halftime, but You're still within scoring range of these
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guys, they're not blowing you out.
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Yeah, and I don't understand why you take what this team is best
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at and completely throw it out the window.
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We talked about it heinicke, drops back for more than 27 28
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attempts odds. Are we're losing that game and
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Julia Donaldson stat. She's come up with.
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If Brian Robinson, carries a ball more than 15 times, we're
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five an hour. You only gave it to him 12
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times, you know, it's those things that just frustrated me
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watching it live and then re watching the game this
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afternoon, like, man, that he was eating him up.
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Be Rob was just laying the wood on anyone that wanted to touch
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him. And it's like a boxing match,
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man. You hit him with the body blows
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and then we hit him after the fact with okeydoke.
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It just, it drove me insane, man.
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And I just, I don't understand what we did during the by weeks,
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but pair for these guys. They always say that a lot of
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times teams that come back from the by, or weaker than stronger
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because of the cohesiveness is just a little off.
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No different than the guy who have the first round.
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Bye in the playoffs, you know, the times that team will lose
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because they just haven't kept it going.
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So maybe it was too much time off.
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Who knows? I don't know.
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But I have to agree with you. They seemed not all there.
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And like you said, they had two weeks to prepare.
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And what I saw was basically the same thing that I saw up in New
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York. I mean, it was, it was almost
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Deja Vu, there was in speaking of deja, vu.
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I mean Thibodeau, just made up Charles 10, you know, on that
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strip. Sack Leno was one-on-one against
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Thibodeau, right? We had a holding call on
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Cornelius. Lucas, drove us back.
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So, it was second and 18 from our 10 yard line.
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If I think Scott Turner has a clause in his contract where he
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has to call an empty set, at least a half a dozen times to
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completely screw us up. Because it's second and 18 at
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the 10 Thibodeau, is his licking, his chops and there's
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no back to chip him. There's no tight end to hit them
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and then release letõs, just one-on-one.
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And you talked about Déjà Vu. We saw what happened in New
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York, Ali in that same situation, right it over time.
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We're heinicke, got hit. Luckily, he didn't actually
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humble the ball, but this time hiding, he got hit.
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I mean, I the who I don't remember who was calling the TV
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call, but they said Thibodeau hit a grand slam.
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He had the sack, he had the strip, fumble and a touchdown
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right there and this was actually what heinicke said on
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the Strip defense played amazing.
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I really, I really think the turning point that game.
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The biggest play that game. Is this a fumble for a
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touchdown? The first half.
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That doesn't happen. Our defense is playing.
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Well, that's that's tough one. Empty, they didn't bring a
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pressure. So I feel like I was protected
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it was you know it five offensive lineman for for looked
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at my first tree, they jumped it and took a second Pitch to throw
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the ball to the debates on. On a corner out.
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And, you know, when I was getting ready to release it, I
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got hit. Five Guys to block or guys were
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rushing, but that fourth guy counts, as three Thibodeau is no
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joke and he ate us up all night long and yeah.
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Brian Mitchell talk again here. Oh yeah.
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Both times and be mixed talks about how coach Gibbs and his
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staff would game plan all week long and if it didn't work the
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first quarter, they'd throw it out and completely start from
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scratch and come up with something new on the Fly.
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I don't feel the Scott Turner has the capability or ability to
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do that at all because how many times on third down where we and
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empty sets, and the Giants took advantage of that and their head
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coach. Their defense coordinator loves
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to bless. That's all the guy does.
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And there were a couple times when Leno was overloaded on his
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side. They brought three and they got
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the Taylor Taylor was only sack for three times, but But he was
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hurried how many times and it just, yeah.
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Man, I could just I don't understand what we were trying
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to do yesterday last night. Do you think he needs to get to
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his reads faster or you just no matter who was back there, they
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wouldn't have enough time. I think no matter who was back
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there, he would have had enough time because the Giants were
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playing off on his own, and he talked about, they jammed his
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first read, and then your second read with John Bates.
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I'm sorry. John Bates does not scare me to
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really be able to do anything. So, there were just you got to
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give him a little more time to get those balls out.
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And we talked last time, how cool he said that they were in
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matched vertex, 70% of the time. Well, they're not going Mass
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protect on third down and I was watching the postgame show this
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morning because they're replaying it.
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I didn't realize this stat guess when we converted our first
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third down, When? Fourteen minutes and 17 seconds
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in the fourth quarter. What the fourth quarter was.
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The first time we got a third down, we were 14 10 on third
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down. Can't win like that.
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No, it. It's just it's something we have
23:56
constantly talked about on this show in it drives.
23:59
Me crazy is okay. The Flea Flicker.
24:04
Why in the hell did Scott Turner decide to call a Flea?
24:08
Flicker at second and three because you think you're going
24:13
to be able to convert that. And I'm sorry on the Flea
24:18
Flicker, whoever the killer threw it to, I want to say it
24:20
was the Ami was Danny Brown was Triple covered or double covered
24:24
double. Yeah, so that's a me.
24:26
Someone else should be open, but he decides that Chuck it up
24:29
there. The first thing, why are you
24:31
trying to get cute? Why are you calling a
24:33
flea-flicker right there? I think we were maybe in our 35
24:36
somewhere around there. We were in our territory, not
24:38
theirs. I just, I don't get it.
24:41
But then after that, it's third and three, and you decide to
24:45
give the ball to Curtis Samuel out of shotgun and Curtis gets
24:49
to yards, give it to your Bruiser.
24:53
You don't feed be robbed at that point.
24:55
It's still early in the game and he's still fighting for those
24:58
are be rocking. Get three yards with 12 men on
25:01
the box. But you decide to be cute and
25:04
give it to curse, he'll drag the hell out of them.
25:08
It's just the coaching. The game plan.
25:13
Everything from an offensive perspective.
25:16
Drove me crazy. Yes, the Giants scored 20
25:18
points, but the defense held them to 13, you know, you that
25:23
Thibodeau talks down. It was what it was.
25:25
If your defense holds an opponent to 13 points, you hope
25:28
your offense can score more than 12 and they did it.
25:32
It's just so upsetting. And everyone is yelling and
25:35
screaming about the referees today and And we'll talk about
25:38
that in a little bit, but to me, that's not why we lost the game.
25:44
We got outcoached. Yeah, they made plays when they
25:49
needed to make plays and and I tell you.
25:53
So what was pivotal for me, was when it was fourth and nine and
26:01
I said to the guy that was sitting next to me.
26:05
I said, are they gonna go over this?
26:07
I said, oh, if they go for The level of disrespect is just
26:09
through the roof and sure enough, so they didn't fear us.
26:14
No, no team almost. There's there was no reason for
26:18
them to go forth and nine unless you just want.
26:22
Well, I take that back there was a reason for them to do it to
26:24
keep them into the momentum going, and keep their offense on
26:27
the field for potentially having us.
26:29
Get the ball back and scoring there.
26:32
But still, I think they were in Their own their own on their
26:38
side of the field. They weren't for that 9.
26:41
And I said there was a fourth and nine on Washington's 24 and
26:47
they threw it. It was to ch1 actually.
26:51
I was 10:18 it was still 723 if that point.
26:57
Yeah. And it was right before the
26:59
two-minute warning, so there was 223 left in the game on 24.
27:05
Then they should have kicked a field goal.
27:06
There, you're talking a 24 that's a 41-yard, kick, they
27:10
went for it, got the first down through the 11 yards right on
27:13
Bobby McCain. You know it's just they were
27:15
picking us apart all game long and The defensive game plan was
27:22
better because Daniel Jones didn't run all overalls.
27:26
He was 12 carries for 71 yards. The first game this game, he was
27:31
10 carries for 35 yard, so they obviously wanted to make a point
27:35
of let, Daniel Jones beat you with his arm.
27:38
Don't beat you with his legs. This time Jones was 21 and 32
27:42
for 160 yards. He didn't put up a ton of yards.
27:46
The Giants offense in general, didn't put up a ton of your
27:49
Guards, the defense did their job, your offense, just did it,
27:54
but it was just straight disrespect from a Giant's
27:58
perspective where they felt that they could do whatever they
28:01
wanted to even though the stats don't show it, they did really
28:05
whatever they wanted to that game.
28:08
I mean their swag was on 100, bro.
28:11
Oh yeah, I mean total yards. Giants had 160 yards passing.
28:16
They had 288 yards total So it's not a Time.
28:21
The commander has had three hundred eighty seven yards total
28:24
387. I mean, how can you have three
28:27
hundred eighty seven yards total and you're beating them by 100
28:31
yards and you only put up 12 points and it's just, it's
28:34
because of this freaking offense, that drives me crazy.
28:38
And Rivera just has press conference and during his press
28:42
conference and try to see if I can pull the quote up here.
28:45
You know, I'm wondering myself. Are we going to get a chance to
28:49
see? See.
28:50
Carson. Because did you see during the
28:53
game? Every TV timeout.
28:55
Oh yeah, every change of possession and Carson's out
28:58
there warming up with heinicke, throwing the ball pregame, I saw
29:04
it man pregame Carson was on like ten.
29:10
I mean, he normally, you know, you respect the quarterback to
29:14
do it would Taylor was doing and okay, I'll catch the ball and
29:18
I'll do some nice form throw. To the war, my arm up.
29:22
Now Carson was like, oh I'm gonna, I'm Gonna Roll out.
29:26
I'm realizing my right and throw it hard.
29:28
I'm going to roll to my left and throw it hard even harder.
29:32
It was, I said, I said, wait a minute, what is this dude doing?
29:36
So I thought that was kind of strange.
29:40
Maybe he was trying to let the coach seated.
29:43
Hey, I'm mobile. I'm ready?
29:45
I can put some zip on it. There were a couple of times
29:49
when he because Taylor stays in the same spot and doesn't move
29:53
when he's about to go in, he's just throwing the ball to
29:56
whatever receivers catching on the other end, Carson was
30:00
backing up 10 yards, 20 yards, 30 yards, and throwing bombs
30:05
back. He wasn't just sitting there
30:06
doing the whole, okay? Let me just pitch and catch with
30:09
you, so he was definitely line it up and trying to prove.
30:13
Hey, Scott, Turner, I know you're up there, watch this,
30:17
check me out. Let me drop this one in here.
30:19
And I mean, At a certain point I'm thinking we got to put
30:23
Carson in for is not working right now.
30:26
He's just having an issue in this offense is having a problem
30:29
in. I was hoping it was going to
30:31
happen but then after halftime hide-a-key had his helmet on and
30:35
Carson's just coming out of there like I throw the ball,
30:38
that's fine. What did you want Carson to come
30:41
out or is that just me? Well, you know that I've always
30:46
told you I want whoever is going to be better for the team and we
30:52
talked about it on the preview show where I said, hey if he's
30:57
jacking it up, bring Carson out and maybe put heinicke, keep
31:02
both of them on the field or some type of other type of play
31:05
just to get Carson. The the moves in the of the
31:10
game, get back up to speed and I think that you probably could
31:14
see that even though you said you wouldn't want to see it.
31:18
I think that that there's something is said, it's like
31:20
when Daniel Jones and say Quan went to the Wildcat and it was a
31:24
direct snap, you know, we weren't expecting that and he
31:28
ran it in for a touchdown that was in my end zone because when
31:32
he, when he got back into the quarterback position, and Daniel
31:35
Jones was a DJ was the Was it running back?
31:39
I was like, wait a minute. What kind of nonsense is this?
31:42
So I know as a fan. I'm scratching my head.
31:45
Those guys on all fours in a four point stance was like okay,
31:50
who do we key on or this is a trick place.
31:52
Going to go to DJ. Nope, say Quan ran it right up
31:56
our gut into the end zone. See, I'm not surprised about
32:00
that though, because they've done that before.
32:03
It's like and for those that didn't hear our last show, rally
32:07
wanted car. And Ann Taylor in at the same
32:10
time, one that can't move and the other that Scott, you know,
32:14
Skittles for an arm in there, wasting space, the thing that
32:18
drove me crazy is, it's the first half and Taylor was 7 for
32:22
13 and only have 43 yards, right?
32:25
His average yards per pass was 2.9.
32:30
Less than three yards per pass. I mean, he's just Alex Smith was
32:36
Captain shut down. You know what the hell is
32:39
Taylor? Yeah, two point nine yards.
32:41
Average per pass. Well, he's Corporal.
32:44
Check that it. Balances camping checked, I
32:47
just, I mean, no, And then you've got fans and you got
32:52
people saying, well, we don't want to see Carson against this
32:55
pass rush against the 49ers. And yeah, we're skipping ahead a
32:58
couple of days. I am just tired of a heinicke
33:02
experiment and I was hoping that Rivera was going to potentially
33:06
talk about a change while David Aldridge asked Rivera Ron, do
33:10
you consider a quarterback change?
33:13
Andy, did you give do you give any thought to a change?
33:16
Your quarterback for next week? No, no.
33:18
David. I think the biggest thing more
33:20
anything else is, you know, sticking with with Taylor and
33:23
what we're trying to establish, you know?
33:25
And it is something though, that obviously is talked about,
33:29
obviously, Out there and it is something that, you know, to be
33:32
quite Frank as I do have to think about at some point.
33:36
But if we can continue to if we get back on track and play, the
33:39
way we played and do things that we've done, you know, then we'll
33:43
stick with where we are until then, you know, I will I will do
33:46
that. Well, I'll say this on a good
33:51
note. I couldn't believe how far he
33:54
threw the ball. Downfield this disk last game I
33:58
I said hey who do that? But I Little Island legitimately
34:02
said who threw that ball because I did not expect him to be able
34:07
to throw the ball that far. When he's got an arm to throw
34:12
deep, he doesn't have an arm to hit those tight window, Thrones,
34:17
those deep outs, those other Thrones.
34:20
But I mean lob in the thing up there, he overthrew Diaw me on
34:25
one of those players, you know, the Ami was off.
34:27
I mean, I think if he were thrown to Terry in that
34:29
instance, Terry would have called out to her, but the Army
34:32
wasn't able to get there. But when I say he's got skills
34:35
for an arm, I'm talking about those deep outs that those you
34:39
Need to have zip on that ball or else odb's going to break on
34:43
that thing for a pick six and a couple of those times.
34:49
I felt like he thought it was. You remember that old MTV like
34:53
sports show where they do like rock and jock baseball and rock
34:56
and jock like basketball. There's like a 25-point circle.
35:00
Would opened up with a minute left in the game so you gives
35:03
you a chance to come back. I felt like heinicke was going
35:07
for that 12 point play. We're there obviously isn't one,
35:12
but he was going deep at times where he had Curtis, you know,
35:17
across the middle or he had Antonio leaking out, but he was
35:20
trying to go for that home run ball and it just it wasn't
35:24
there. Each time he threw a deep.
35:26
There was at least two if not three Defenders on our wide
35:30
receiver each time the only time that wasn't was when he threw
35:34
its adoption over the top and Dodson had that amazing catch.
35:38
But just Johnson was 101? Yeah he wasn't a double trouble
35:43
at that point. So when you say that, did you
35:48
see that live? Or is that something that you
35:50
went back and reviewed it? No, I saw that live.
35:55
Yeah. And I'm these just watch it
35:57
because where I am on the field, I am more like 35 yard line home
36:03
ends at home. Sideline right there and there a
36:06
couple times because when he was chucking it deep, he was
36:08
chucking it. Deep towards my side or the
36:10
field away from you. And you can see the underneath
36:14
routes open, he was just missing them.
36:17
And I felt like he was reversing his progressions.
36:21
His progressions were going deep to shallow.
36:23
A low versus shallow to deep, maybe, because he read his stats
36:27
at halftime saying I'm only throwing two point, nine yards
36:29
per pass, but he wasn't completing his passes because
36:33
they just weren't there. So, it was just frustrating.
36:37
But one good thing that he was doing was we talked about it?
36:42
Is he going to start using his legs?
36:44
And he finally did. It was the Taylor of old that we
36:48
were used to. He was three carries for 33
36:50
yards and he had his longest 4:15 He was a threat to run the
36:55
ball so that was nice to see and there were a couple times where
36:59
Taylor two weeks ago would scramble and then still try and
37:04
throw the ball. Whereas this time, I think on a
37:06
15 yard run, he ran to the out and actually ended up holding
37:09
and tucking in rags. I'm thinking, please don't
37:11
throw, please don't throw and thank God, you know, Jedi mind,
37:15
trick works, and he decided to run that thing because, but why
37:20
we went away from it, man? I'm just Yeah, no, it's
37:26
frustrating. It's frustrating, bro.
37:28
And maybe he is a auditioning for a another job HC type stuff,
37:35
but until we know, let's not speculate.
37:41
Oh yeah, I mean, he just got an extension here.
37:43
Rivera extended him for no reason.
37:46
That's the other part that drives me.
37:47
Freaking insane because coaching contracts are guaranteed.
37:52
So you just, Extended Scott Turner so we can't get rid of
37:55
his ass. He's going to be here, he's not
37:57
going anywhere and Scott calls us out of games.
38:03
He has had one good gameplay on this entire season, which was
38:07
the Eagles game on Monday night, you would think he would have
38:09
stepped it up again this one. I just who do you blame for this
38:17
loss? We haven't lost since November
38:19
6th. So maybe we're a little spoiled
38:22
because it's been a while. I think that was the Vikings
38:25
game where's but who do you give credit sue for this loss.
38:30
I give credit for the loss to the defense bro.
38:34
Really salty. But ultimately they have to stop
38:38
the stop the team from from it scoring and And that fourth and
38:43
nine. I'm not gonna blame the rest.
38:45
See some this ain't going to be rally.
38:47
Captain blame the wrist. They had their little issue into
38:50
it but to me fourth and nine for the nine, dude, you gotta stop
38:56
that. Yeah.
38:57
And we were I don't know what type of coverage we were playing
39:01
but it wasn't, it wasn't, it was a Pressman and so he's just
39:07
picking us apart. So I gotta I gotta go.
39:12
Can't be a guy that's is coordinator either.
39:15
The play comes in. You've got to execute regardless
39:18
on how busted you feel it. Maybe you've got to execute, you
39:23
get paid money to execute and I think the defense is the one
39:30
that let us down even though they did hold him to 20 points.
39:35
Well, 13 points. I mean to the point can't blame
39:37
seven on them so they're not 7 was on.
39:41
Hi Nikki. I should know that seven was on
39:43
Charles Leto and Scott Turner, not on heinicke, because there
39:46
was nothing Taylor could do at that point.
39:48
He's in the right there, rushing for people.
39:50
You got to hope your five guys can block for, but he didn't
39:53
feel that pressure. And once he hit his back foot,
39:57
he should have got rid of it, he just did.
39:58
But see it's hard for me to blame this on the defense.
40:02
I mean, I understand that Daniel Jones wreak havoc at that point
40:08
in the first matchup. So, round two, they wanted to
40:12
make A concerted effort to slow him down and it felt like let's
40:16
see how many sacks that we have on DJ.
40:20
I think how many sacks did you get yesterday?
40:24
How many sacks did I get ya? Well if we're not talking about
40:28
White Castle's, I didn't get any sacks.
40:31
Yeah well neither did our defense and zero sacks and see
40:35
that's what I'm saying man. I mean whether whether it was
40:40
the bye week, that just kind of made him feel more comfortable,
40:44
whether it was press clippings, whoa, whether who do whatever it
40:48
was, okay, whatever it was, ultimately your A job is to stop
40:53
them from scoring who was it? That said, hey you want me
40:56
dancing in the end zone? Then stop me from scoring and I
40:59
won't be able to dance in the end zone.
41:00
Don't be mad at me but dancing is I'm celebrating.
41:03
Stop the man from scoring so that's that's ultimately what it
41:06
boils down to. So see how you like the game
41:12
plan from the defensive line perspective was to hold your
41:17
gaps and don't rush Daniel. And give him Lanes to step up in
41:24
and take advantage of. I feel like we weren't attacking
41:28
him like we should have or like they did the first time prior
41:33
because he found those Lanes when our guys didn't rush for as
41:37
one. And then he just took advantage
41:40
of what his legs. And this time he was just
41:42
getting 7-yard passes here and there on first down I felt like
41:46
every time and it was obvious they were picking on Danny
41:49
Johnson so every time it was first down Danny Johnson,
41:52
one-on-one, boom, curl route, right in front of them.
41:55
You know, and we just did not adjust but it's hard for me to
42:00
blame the defense but this is actually what our listener
42:03
carnivore Steve. Who he blamed for the loss.
42:08
Dougie Ted, this is Steve Captain carnivore Conover.
42:12
And my Blaine pie goes 50% Scott Turner for going empty, and not
42:18
at least chipping. Number 5 and leaving Taylor
42:23
heinicke. Open on The Blind Side.
42:25
Several times. 25% to Taylor heinicke for not taking care of
42:31
the football. And 25% to the referees for
42:37
several egregious calls and non calls.
42:40
Thanks, brother. Now, we appreciate you calling
42:45
in Steve and listening and supporting the show, man.
42:47
Definitely in, I'm not sure if I agree with the percentage of
42:53
that but we also have Kevin for Rockville, texted in Kevin said,
42:59
I blame Taylor heinicke and the offensive line they moved the
43:04
ball. Well, but once it got close to
43:06
the Red Zone, we fell apart. It was a very wonderful game if
43:09
they had any average, but if they had an average performance,
43:13
the It was all right, would have liked to stop on those long
43:16
drives drives but they ultimately only gave up 13
43:19
points. So okay, see here.
43:24
Once again I'm telling you why I'm saying defense.
43:27
No, I hear you. I get the ball in the 4-yard
43:30
line. Therefore your line and they
43:31
drive down 97 yards. I mean it was a 97 yard
43:36
touchdown drive, you know, it's and then and then after that, it
43:39
became the SE Kwang Berkeley show.
43:42
We got to stop it and we couldn't stop it.
43:45
So so you know, a team is going to score touchdown here.
43:49
There, I got it. But the thing is, is how did
43:54
they score? How did they move the ball?
43:57
And everything that we touted about or for which don't get me
44:03
wrong. We've got an awesome front for.
44:05
I love those dudes, but they're human too.
44:09
So the defense to me, let us down and that's why I said that
44:13
and we had a lot of five-man defensive line sets round 1,
44:19
round 2. We went away from that, and I
44:21
don't know if you notice when say Quan was gassing Us in the
44:23
fourth quarter, they brought John Ridgeway yet.
44:26
Stop it and Ridgeway actually first play in there, wearing
44:31
red, Which Way Ridge wages bear hug them, stop sake, one right
44:34
there. So, I mean, it's slow down the
44:36
running attack, but the defense did not seem to make adjustments
44:41
and then the Giants didn't make any on their side because they
44:44
didn't need to, you know, for us.
44:48
I mean, everyone knows if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
44:51
Well, it wasn't broke with Brian Robinson, but Scott Turner like
44:55
to try and fix it. The Giants on the other hand
44:58
actually do what you're suppose to do, it wouldn't work for
45:02
them. So I just kept taking advantage
45:03
of us. So the lack of defensive
45:06
adjustments, I'll give you that. I do blame.
45:10
If I had to give a percentage, I'll say maybe 20% of my blame
45:16
pie goes to Del Rio, not making adjustments, Danny Johnson on an
45:20
island, and getting picked apart, and missing Benjamin st.
45:24
Juste, these past two games. Ames has been massive two or
45:29
three three. Right.
45:31
Well, I mean, just two games versus Giants.
45:33
Okay, I guess so I got you know not having bsj for the first
45:37
time in the Meadowlands and not having him this time.
45:40
Huge they picked on Christian homes.
45:43
Last time to the point of homes, got benched, Danny Johnson, came
45:46
in. Danny had a better game when he
45:48
came in and relief, Danny started this game because B SJ
45:52
wasn't there. He didn't have a good game.
45:54
He got picked on. I don't know how many passes he
45:57
But every time it was first down, I felt like it was second
46:00
and 3 and 0, who was on The Tackle, Danny Johnson, Danny
46:03
Johnson. It's just, he was just getting
46:05
beat up constantly and Rivera, not not Rivera, but the real not
46:09
making any adjustments. Drove me crazy, but I just Mi
46:13
Pais, I want to say 70%, goes to Scott Turner.
46:19
Oh, he called a bad game. I just I don't see any other way
46:25
around it. When You've got a stud like
46:28
Brian Robinson. Junior getting seven point four
46:32
yards, a carry when you have a beat-up offensive line and all
46:37
you're doing is making them pass block versus run block.
46:42
I don't get that offensive line and hate the past fly.
46:46
I played left tackle absolutely hated pass blocking.
46:49
I wasn't that good at it? I can run block my ass off, but
46:53
the fact that Brian Robinson only had 24 snaps, he was in on
46:58
38% of the offensive players. Why are you taking the ball out
47:03
that young man's hands got Turner?
47:05
You don't even have them on the field?
47:07
It's not that high. Like he wasn't giving it to him,
47:09
he wasn't actually on the dam failed.
47:11
Well, if I'm not mistaken, I do remember him, calling himself
47:17
out II. Remember a couple plays, he
47:19
called himself out and they wanted and matter of fact, if I
47:22
remember correctly, they wanted him to stay and no, he waved
47:26
himself out. So I'm not sure what was going
47:28
on with that. Did you see that?
47:30
It wasn't? There was all the 19 yard run.
47:33
So on the one 19 yard run, he called himself out because I
47:37
don't know if he was gassed. Yeah.
47:38
And what if that point, but You know, I was talking to Doc
47:42
Walker linell about this last night and they're harping on it.
47:46
The last drive down the field. Scroll through the stats now
47:52
here. So heinicke, hits, Curtis Samuel
47:55
down the left sideline or down the right, sideline depending
47:57
where you're looking at it 30 yards.
47:59
Then next thing you know, trying to pull this up.
48:02
Where is this Brian Robinson ended up having a carry?
48:08
I want to say for 18 or 19 yards and in didn't come back in the
48:13
game. Be Rob got us down.
48:16
Why can't I find this? I'm sorry.
48:19
For those of you that are wondering why I'm stalling here,
48:22
but I Robinson got us down. Regardless I want to say to
48:28
within a couple of yard line and then he never came back in the
48:31
game and I just I don't get why they didn't give him the ball
48:37
back, why they didn't get him a chance to actually finish that
48:40
thing off off. Those who listen Stan get to
48:43
say, well be Rob was in on that touchdown.
48:45
So okay, yeah, well the touchdown didn't count because
48:49
Terry McLaren wasn't lined up properly and everyone's throwing
48:53
a fit about that and the referees Yes.
48:57
I don't have a problem with the call on Terry.
48:59
If Terry wasn't where he was supposed to be Nikki Giovanni
49:02
Allah and for those of you listening, we're also going to
49:04
have this on YouTube, Nikki Giovanni put up a video.
49:08
Terry said that the refs are he was good.
49:10
If you look at the video The Ref points down to the line, doesn't
49:15
actually give Terry a thumbs up or anything and you also have a
49:18
bunch of fans yelling and screaming at that point.
49:20
So who knows what Terry actually heard or what the rough said.
49:25
But the fact is Terry wasn't exactly where he should have
49:30
been. She's a, and he couldn't move
49:33
again because another wide receiver one in motion.
49:38
You cannot have two people in motion at the same time or else.
49:41
That's an offensive pillory. So he was damned if he did.
49:44
He was damned if he did it at that point.
49:47
But be Mitch was talking about this today on his show.
49:50
What's with all the motion you're at the 2-yard line.
49:54
No, who are you? Fooling, give the ball to be
49:57
robbed and I'm just punch you in the mouth.
49:59
Yeah. Because the guy who your
50:01
motioning for that safety, or that corner is trying to travel
50:05
or DVDs trying to travel. You know he's not being affected
50:08
by this play anyway. No just line up around the damn
50:10
ball. The pitch you want to run but
50:12
they're trying to confuse people thinking it's going to be a Jet
50:15
Sweep or something like that to maybe get their eyes looking in
50:18
the wrong direction. That's the purpose behind all
50:21
that motion, we get that well but if You know, that you're
50:25
going to run it up the gut, like that just freaking run it up the
50:28
gut, just do it. It's just the a tried get too
50:33
cute with some other stuff and that's why for me, it's going
50:37
back to Scott Turner, a majority of my brain power goes to him
50:40
because he's calling us out of games.
50:43
It's third and two, third and three and you give it to Curtis
50:47
Samuel out of shotgun. How did you know?
50:50
Yes, yes, man. Come on.
50:52
How many times have we said that this whole year?
50:55
Why are we, why are we doing this out of shotgun?
50:58
Do you do we not trust? The quarterback sneak, do we
51:00
know? I trust you know, full back in
51:03
the tail back and through the eye and just run it up the gut.
51:06
Obviously we don't It. I think he just wants to be
51:10
cute. I think he wants to try and pull
51:14
some We don't have a cutesy football team.
51:18
Just, you know, in the thing is we have to play a damn near
51:24
perfect game because does not say that.
51:26
Yeah, lack of quarterback Talent.
51:29
If your quarterback is not the better quarterback than your
51:33
entire team, has to step it up a notch.
51:36
And we have these past couple of games, the problem is the Giants
51:41
have the better quarterback, right?
51:44
And the defense got Gasps in the fourth quarter, I don't blame
51:48
our defensive line, all those first-rounders up front because
51:52
they were on the field. We converted one third down so a
51:57
lot of time on the grass that's why it's hard for me to really
52:02
get it on them. And John Allen was fighting his
52:06
heart out man. There was one time where I
52:08
thought John was going to come to blows in the Huddle on his
52:11
own team because John's yelling and screaming at them.
52:14
Like what the hell is. Until the possession was even 30
52:18
minutes to 29 minutes at that point, you know, 30.3 29.3.
52:23
But I felt like our defense and that fourth quarter, they had
52:26
just been out there for so long and the Giants went into a hurry
52:28
upset and it was just kind of frustrating and Rafael.
52:33
Rubio said this in saying my 13 year old son, said to me on the
52:37
way home Dad it was the Commander's versatile refs.
52:40
A lot of judgment call should have been a flag for holding.
52:44
It was a lot. not called, and The illegal penalty on Terry.
52:51
Okay? But how do you not call pass
52:53
interference on that Curtis Samuel play?
52:57
Did you see the picture that's out there everywhere?
53:02
Yeah, yeah, I mean he's a dude, he's all over him.
53:05
It's almost like it's a freaking.
53:08
Go go and a grind session. I don't know if you've ever been
53:12
to a go-go wagons concert ahead of time.
53:14
Yeah, yeah. Well, how about this?
53:18
Little dirty dancing, when the girl turns it back to you and
53:21
you sneak up behind her. And I sneak up with you close to
53:24
her and dance but he's not saying.
53:27
But that's what it, that's what it was.
53:29
Yeah, ultimately it was so I couldn't believe it and so that
53:36
just Well, this is actually, this is what Rivera said about
53:41
it. The call on Terry, Terry seemed
53:45
pretty adamant. He appointed his hand out to the
53:47
ref. What was the Expo?
53:48
Did you guys see on the film? Looked like Terry Point.
53:50
That's exactly what I thought to thank you as well.
53:56
The fourth down, I mean I again in fact don't ask me about the
54:01
referee because I can't answer the question.
54:06
I'm not giving any of my blame to the rest.
54:08
Yeah it's just we never should have put ourselves in that
54:12
situation. Even number one, we've talked
54:15
about it time and again, you can't leave the game in someone
54:19
else's hands and make it that close.
54:22
It's like a boxing match. You can't let it go to the
54:24
judges. They in essence, let it go to
54:27
the judges and the gel in see something different than what
54:31
you thought. Exactly.
54:34
But it's to call that ticky-tack flag on Terry to take the
54:39
touchdown off the board, but to not even Give Curtis the benefit
54:44
of the doubt on that. Actual pie is unbelievably
54:49
frustrating and Nikki. Avala is the pool reporter for
54:53
the Press. So the NFL makes referees
54:56
available to talk to the Press after the fact and Nikki ask
55:02
them this question. So question, let's talk about
55:05
the terrible claw employer was that indeed illegal formation
55:08
and what did you see, it appeared that he pointed to the
55:11
official Is the obligated to tell Terry that he's at the line
55:15
or not. And this was from referee, John
55:18
hussy. Well I didn't see any of that
55:21
because I'm in the backfield when I was told and what has
55:24
been confirmed is that the ball was snapped at the half-yard
55:27
line and he was lined up our yard.
55:29
Back at the one and a half yard line in order to be deemed
55:33
legal. He needs to break the Beltline,
55:35
the ways of the center and he was not breaking the waistline
55:38
of the center. That's why the penalty was
55:39
called, because he was not an illegal formation.
55:43
Okay, then Nikki asked what a player does point to the
55:47
official like that. Does the official have to say
55:48
whether he's at the line or not referee, says not, typically the
55:52
official could be doing other things, like, counting the
55:54
offense. There's a multitude of different
55:56
duties. So I can't confirm whether the
55:58
official even saw that or not, but he was clearly off the line
56:02
of scrimmage. So okay illegal formation
56:08
whatever. Next question on the fourth
56:10
down, play it look like defensive pass interference
56:12
against Washington. Wide receiver Curtis Channel but
56:15
nothing was called. Are you able to explain what
56:17
we're seeing there? The referee says pass.
56:20
Interference is a judgment call to the officials.
56:22
It didn't rise to, what they felt was a restriction, thus
56:25
they didn't call it. That's basically the bottom line
56:28
there. It's a judgment call, didn't
56:29
believe it was pass interference.
56:32
I don't know how many Times on whether it was College up the
56:36
pro that same scenario. They're getting the flag first
56:40
down ball in one. I don't want to hear that man.
56:43
That's right there. I've seen it many times and you
56:47
can't tell me that it should not have been poor poor poor play
56:54
referee right there so but ultimately What can we do about
57:00
it? And, and I remember, I think it
57:02
was DJ swear injure or something like that.
57:06
Something happened. Where was a play, and they came
57:08
back and they said, oh yeah, we should not have called that and
57:11
if he hadn't called that, then the time the Redskins would have
57:14
won the game. Well, that doesn't help now.
57:17
Yeah, you know, it doesn't help. Now if the ref comes out and
57:20
says yeah, I told him what he did and he did check in with me
57:23
or yeah, guys, that was passing the France.
57:25
I mean, what are they gonna do? Find the rest.
57:28
I think they do find the Or they can even borrow them from from
57:31
from reffing anymore, NFL teams in that same calendar year.
57:35
But now, man, I don't want to hear it.
57:39
We we all saw it. Yeah, I mean he was draped over
57:43
his back. It was a bang bang play, just
57:46
the rf8 his whistle. He didn't wanna make the call at
57:49
that point. I just called both ways.
57:51
That's all I'm saying. You got it.
57:53
I mean, if you call it to play beforehand on Terry, you got a
57:56
call, the other one on that. But who would you give you a
58:00
real chain two this week knowing?
58:03
What happened who still gets to wear that shame?
58:06
Yeah, Dotson. It was a bass man.
58:10
I mean, Jahan stepped up big time for 4105 with a TD.
58:16
I mean that young man is he knows how to find the end zone
58:22
and he leads the team in touchdowns right now.
58:27
Receiving touchdowns And he missed how much the games.
58:30
Yeah, I mean, I just, I couldn't be happier with the effort.
58:33
He puts out on that field. He's got six touchdowns for the
58:36
season only 338 yards, but it's because he missed a bunch of
58:39
games. I felt like, if he'd been in
58:41
there during that stretch run, we were winning, right?
58:44
Yeah, I mean he would be better but I'm thinking to myself, when
58:49
Dax mail and goes back there for that pun, that he fumbled, but
58:52
wasn't a fumble. Why is Jehan not back there?
58:56
It was such a crucial point in the game.
58:58
And we pin them back. Why was Jahan not back there?
59:02
Catching that part because you are training camp with me.
59:05
We talked about it during training camp.
59:07
Everyone talked about it, jahan's catching punts well we
59:10
want to try and put him back there to give us a change of
59:12
pace. Sorry, but that smell em.
59:15
Ain't it? The only thing.
59:19
Yeah, go ahead. It's a crucial point in the
59:21
game, but Jehan back there. I was going to say, the only
59:25
thing I can think of realistically, man, is they
59:28
don't want to get hurt, and they feel that possible.
59:32
If putting him back there, he gets hurt.
59:35
Now you've just taken away a piece for our offense that we
59:38
have shown you that we can score with.
59:41
So now we got to start all over again and we don't want to do
59:44
that as you said it playing scared.
59:46
I mean you play football. No one wants to get hurt in
59:48
football but you play the game and if he is better than
59:53
Erickson. Ormaline then yeah, man.
59:56
I mean come on you put the best 52 on the or the Yea best 82 on
1:00:00
the field or best 11 on the field, who's ever playing with
1:00:03
his offense defense better team. That's who supposed to be there.
1:00:05
Not because I know your mom, you know, this this isn't Pop Warner
1:00:12
or High School. You did it.
1:00:13
Your top booster, know the best 53 and if it's skillsets shows
1:00:18
that he is the best, then put them in.
1:00:23
John is a more explosive player than Dax melon in John's pinky.
1:00:29
He has more Talent than Dax Miller has in his entire body
1:00:33
and you know who's the coach for the Rams?
1:00:38
Why can't I think of his name right now?
1:00:40
You know who I'm talking about was maybe?
1:00:41
Yeah, McVeigh make phase. Basically Mantra is, you attack
1:00:46
success. We did not attack success.
1:00:49
When we tied, New York up there, we were up 10.
1:00:52
Nothing and they came back and ended up time that damn game.
1:00:55
We did not attack success today when we decided to punt the ball
1:00:59
on the 34 yard line, we did not attack success today when you
1:01:03
don't have Jon Donson back there a Difference Maker remember
1:01:07
Wendy on would go back and feel Ponce.
1:01:09
It's not like you did it all the time but when he did it you had
1:01:11
to get scared because you knew something could happen.
1:01:15
Same thing with Santana. He could break it at any given
1:01:18
time. Yeah.
1:01:19
And if this kid has this Talent. And you prep him with this
1:01:23
Talent, why not give him a chance to show how Dynamic he
1:01:28
is? If I'm the Giants?
1:01:30
I immediately start quaking in my boots because of that spin
1:01:32
move. He put on us up in New York.
1:01:34
Yeah, you know, it's just, it's that lack of Dimension that this
1:01:40
coaching staff doesn't have drives me crazy, but Dax not
1:01:45
Dax. John is a perfect one to get a
1:01:48
real change. I mean, for me, I'm going to
1:01:53
have to break it up. Okay.
1:01:55
So I want to hear this 50% is going to go to trust way and
1:02:02
this isn't being funny stress pin them back.
1:02:07
How many times man? He was freaking Stellar two
1:02:10
times inside the 20. He just he flipped the field for
1:02:13
us a ton and Tres did his damn job.
1:02:17
He's actually leading the team and Pro Bowl boats, our punter.
1:02:21
Is leading a Pro Bowl V because he is that damn good.
1:02:24
He's the best player we've had in our team in the past.
1:02:27
You know, eight, nine years which is kind of sad to say he
1:02:30
is put up almost every year. I'm not mistaken.
1:02:33
Yeah. And I'm his wife actually had a
1:02:35
custom shirt at training camp that said something about Tres
1:02:40
on it and I asked rest where to get that from can I buy that is
1:02:43
like what my wife had these custom-made?
1:02:45
And they're in women, so be kind of awkward on you.
1:02:47
I'd so rocket. But you know, the trusses my
1:02:50
man, the other For me, it's got to go to Terry.
1:02:54
Terry broke 1,000 yards. Alright 1,000-yard season in a
1:03:00
row, first redskins Washington player to do that since Henry
1:03:04
Allard. And you could tell he wanted
1:03:07
this man. It just I got into an argument
1:03:10
with some older Redskins fans in the stands after the game that
1:03:15
sit behind me and they were pissed off about the whole, In
1:03:21
Gold thing because they were stuck outside with me and that
1:03:24
forward if I'm in that line. So he was already heated because
1:03:26
of that and then the game and the word going back and forth
1:03:29
and their say, well I'm not coming back next year unless
1:03:30
Schneider is gone. So I'm talking with them.
1:03:32
So you didn't start rooting for this team because of Jack, Kemp
1:03:35
Rock, like what you and I have been talking about you know,
1:03:37
during our shows. Yeah, every time it's like that
1:03:40
has nothing to do with it. So why won't you come out here
1:03:42
and support these players? And then they're talking about
1:03:44
these players don't care. Like, how can you say these
1:03:46
players? Don't care.
1:03:47
John, Allan's yelling and screaming at his teammates and
1:03:50
going there, Terry's out. Are busting his ass.
1:03:53
How can you say these guys? Don't care and you know, with
1:03:56
all due respect to them. Sorry, they're wrong.
1:03:59
But I'm also can't tell them where to spend their money
1:04:01
because they fly here man for every home game from Houston.
1:04:07
Every day. Yeah, okay, that's different.
1:04:12
So I get not wanting to come back but to tell me you're not
1:04:16
going to come back because it dies to me that's BS.
1:04:20
But, you know, it is what it is. I just felt that, you know, the
1:04:25
day. We let slip man, we let these
1:04:27
two games slip and maybe it was Sabotage by the refs.
1:04:34
But all I know is right now. We're still Fill in the
1:04:37
playoffs. If it ended today we still are
1:04:42
got where I can appreciate that. We're in the seventh seat with
1:04:45
three games left. If we go through, you know we're
1:04:48
in, we still control our own destiny.
1:04:51
If we finish 2 & 1, then the Seahawks in the Lions.
1:04:56
Have to go three and out to overtake us.
1:04:59
So even if we give a game off the Seahawks, have to go
1:05:02
undefeated or the Lions have to go undefeated, so we have a
1:05:06
thirty-five percent chance of making the postseason right now.
1:05:10
Which is not a lot. Obviously.
1:05:13
Seattle has the Chiefs next. So hopefully that's the Chiefs
1:05:17
on Christmas Eve. Hopefully, that's a loss for
1:05:19
them. Then they got the Jets and then
1:05:22
they got the Rams, the Jets. And the rams look like easy,
1:05:25
pickings right now, The lion scare me though, man.
1:05:29
The Lions have the Panthers, the Bears and the Packers.
1:05:35
So, We have to play in hard, they are, we have to not let it
1:05:42
end up where if the lines go through, you know, we give up
1:05:46
again with Don Irene, it's in our control man.
1:05:49
And hopefully we don't get sabotaged Again by these refs.
1:05:53
Man, it's love-hate relationship did this.
1:05:57
This winning in type of thing, you know, I love it on one
1:06:00
aspect, because you control your own destiny.
1:06:02
I hate it on the other because of the pressure.
1:06:04
And a lot of times our guys, Whatever reason historically
1:06:08
just have not done well under pressure and I don't know who I
1:06:13
heard saying this, but it might have been you.
1:06:16
And I are, it was whoever it was basically says you're perfect
1:06:22
games are pretty much come to an end, you know, because you got
1:06:27
to be perfect in the ball, has the fall just the right way.
1:06:30
You know, and all these games will be one.
1:06:32
They've always said, well, the boss fell the right way.
1:06:34
Well, at some point, I'm the boss Not going to follow the
1:06:37
right way and you've got to rely upon sheer Talent versus luck.
1:06:42
Because luck is only going to get you so far.
1:06:45
So it's difficult, man. And I hate these when you're in
1:06:52
scenarios because we had the perfect cushion last night.
1:06:57
It was there. I mean with caution, we win that
1:07:01
game and we can't afford to lose to the 49ers.
1:07:03
Yeah, and the 49ers with mr. Relevant in sorry, the 49ers are
1:07:08
relevant. They clinched the AFC West,
1:07:11
they're doing a damn good job right now.
1:07:13
And I figured, we'll beat the Giants will loosen the Niners,
1:07:17
and then we'll see what the last few games come down to one.
1:07:20
Now that's flipped at a pretty much beat the 49ers this week
1:07:24
and we'll get to that on Wednesday.
1:07:26
But man, it's going to be a tough round of these pliers.
1:07:29
Laughs and I'm kind of glad I didn't buy plane tickets to all
1:07:33
these different towns right now. Well you know what?
1:07:39
I'm glad I didn't either because here it is.
1:07:42
It you would have got a credit that's about it man it's not
1:07:46
blessed with it so that's what we're giving you a credit
1:07:48
instead. Happy Trails brother.
1:07:50
Well regardless I still hope we make it in 35 percent.
1:07:55
You're still telling me we got a chance but we'll get into that
1:07:58
on Wednesday. May All right, but with that
1:08:01
being said, we appreciate you guys jumping on with us and
1:08:04
listen to another episode of, that's all rally.
1:08:06
And I give you back this Wednesday, you know, if anybody
1:08:09
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1:08:20
voicemails and text messages. There are a couple that I could
1:08:24
not play because they had too many curses in them and I am too
1:08:26
tired of bleep amount but I feel all y'all is praying.
1:08:29
I definitely do. And we, once again, echoing what
1:08:34
Ted said, we appreciate you guys, listening.
1:08:36
And remember, you could be any place that you want to be in the
1:08:39
world, but you decided to spend it with us.
1:08:42
Keep rubbing with us and you rip it hard.
1:08:45
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