Latest / Vigilante Vibes Podcast / Ep. 103. Who are the New Avengers in Marvel Comics?!
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- 0:19Hi guys, it's Megan from Vigilante Vibes and by now you
- 0:23are probably sick of hearing the name The New Avengers.
- 0:28And I get it, I get it. It's everywhere since Marvel, I
- 0:33guess. Spoiler alert I guess.
- 0:35I guess since Marvel went and spoiled that the asterisk and
- 0:39Thunderbolts actually means the New Avengers like two days after
- 0:44the movie premiered. Which was a choice.
- 0:48Not a choice I'd agree with, but I don't work for Marvel So what
- 0:53can you do? But who are the New Avengers?
- 0:56We know who they are in the MCU now, but who are they in the
- 0:58comic books? So I have a quick breakdown of
- 1:02them and I will explain how they formed, who's on the teams, and
- 1:07I have comics at the end that you can check out.
- 1:10And it is a lot. It is quite the task to learn
- 1:14all about the New Avengers, but it is a fun task and I highly
- 1:18recommend it. So The Avengers first came
- 1:23together when Loki's antics forced some of the Earth's
- 1:25strongest heroes to team up Iron Man, Wasp, Pulk, Ant Man and
- 1:30Thor Jordan forces to take down the Trickster God and protect
- 1:34their world. Since then, different Avenger
- 1:36squads like West Coast Avengers, the Young Avengers have stepped
- 1:41up when needed. But that begs the question, who
- 1:44exactly are the New Avengers? In Avengers Disassembled from
- 1:482005, Scarlet Witch, devastated by the loss of her children,
- 1:52which is fair, caused the team to fall apart.
- 1:56After the tragic deaths of Ant Man, Hawkeye, and Vision, many
- 2:00heroes decided it was time to walk away.
- 2:02With the original team disbanded, someone had to fill
- 2:05the void. That's where the New Avengers
- 2:08come in. After a massive prison break at
- 2:11the Raft left some of Marvel's Universe's most dangerous
- 2:15villains loose in New York City, which is, of course, it's New
- 2:18York City, a group of heroes stepped up to take the place of
- 2:22the missing Avengers. This fresh lineup brought
- 2:24together veterans like Iron Man and Captain America, along with
- 2:28the newcomers to the team like Spider Man, Wolverine, Luke
- 2:31Cage, and Spider Woman. They also brought in the
- 2:34incredibly powered century, Bob Reynolds we all know and love,
- 2:39who had actually locked himself up in the Raft as a part of the
- 2:43team. He tried to keep his darker
- 2:45side, the Void, in check. During Civil War from 2006, The
- 2:50Avengers were split down the middle when Captain America and
- 2:53Iron Man clashed over the Superhuman Registration Act Luke
- 2:56Cage and Spider Woman sided with Cap, refusing to sign up and
- 3:00choosing to fight back against Iron Man's Pro Registration
- 3:03team, much like we all saw in Captain America Civil War in the
- 3:08the MCU. After the dust settled, Luke
- 3:12Cage went off the grid and pulled together a new crew of
- 3:15unregistered heroes operating in secret out of Doctor Strange's
- 3:20Sanctum Sanctorium. This underground version of the
- 3:23New Avengers included Iron Fist, Doctor Strange, Echo, Spider
- 3:27Man, Wolverine, and Spider Woman.
- 3:30Clint Barton also jumped in, taking on the identity of Ronan.
- 3:35Eventually, it was discovered that the Raft breakout was a
- 3:38part of the scroll invasion of Earth.
- 3:40This led to a gigantic battle in New York where due to some
- 3:44behind the scenes manipulation, the villainous Norman Osborne,
- 3:48the Green Goblin managed to kill the scroll leader, essentially
- 3:52replacing Nick Fury in the aftermath due to a wave of
- 3:56popularity and political support, this began the Dark
- 4:00Rain era of Marvel Comics, in which Norman Osbourne elevated
- 4:03villains to positions of importance and began persecuting
- 4:07and attempting to assassinate various heroes.
- 4:10If you haven't checked out anything from Dark Green, you
- 4:13have to check out something from Dark Green.
- 4:15I highly recommend it. It's arguably one of Marvel's
- 4:20darkest times of Marvel Comics, and I am here for that.
- 4:24I like it all, so definitely check out dark green.
- 4:28Some really, really incredible stuff is in it.
- 4:31Moving on, Captain American Iron Man LED 1 squad out of The
- 4:35Avengers Tower while Luke Cage took charge of the officially
- 4:38recognized New Avengers. They set up shop at Avengers
- 4:42Mansion, bought from Tony Stark for just $1.00, a symbolic move
- 4:46to show the start of a more united front.
- 4:50The teams split the lineup at Luke Cage's crew, including
- 4:54Spider Man, Wolverine, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Miss
- 4:58Marvel. Who you know at the time is Miss
- 5:00Marvel. It's Carol Danvers who is now
- 5:03Captain Marvel, Hawkeye, Mockingbird, and The Thing.
- 5:07Side note, Bucky Barnes does later join the New Avengers but
- 5:11not as The Winter Soldier or Bucky Barnes.
- 5:13Bucky worked with the team when Steve Rogers was believed to be
- 5:17dead, operating as a gun wielding Captain America who
- 5:22went by the nickname Bucky Cap given to him by Spider Man,
- 5:26which I think is adorable. This version of the New Avengers
- 5:31handled everything from mystical threats like the Eye of
- 5:34Agamotto, which I actually am wearing today, to clashes with
- 5:39the New Dark Avengers. But after Avengers versus X-Men
- 5:44from 2012, Luke stepped away to focus on raising his daughter,
- 5:48and the team eventually went their separate ways.
- 5:51And New Avengers #1 from 2013 by Jonathan Hickman and Steve
- 5:56Epstein. Black Panther witnessed a world
- 5:59ending event but it wasn't his own.
- 6:02T'challa saw an incursion a which is a collision between two
- 6:05universes that ends with one or both being destroyed.
- 6:10Realizing the multiverse was falling apart, he brought
- 6:13together the secret Illuminati, Iron Man, Mr. Fantastic Namor,
- 6:18Doctor Strange, and Black Bolt meeting in Necropolis after
- 6:23Professor XS Death Beast joined the group to represent mutant
- 6:27kind. This ultra secret team did
- 6:30everything they could to prevent total annihilation, even taking
- 6:34some extreme steps, but in the end, their efforts were not
- 6:38enough. The multiverse collapsed and
- 6:40Doctor Doom ended up piercing together the remains into a new
- 6:44world called Battle World, which he ruled over in Secret wars #1
- 6:50from 2015. Before the multiverse collapsed,
- 6:54Robert Dacosta Sunspot that you most recently seen in X-Men 97,
- 7:00bought out AIM and started using its resources to figure out
- 7:04what's causing the incursions. After the multiverse was
- 7:07restored, he gave the organization a major rebrand,
- 7:11turning it into Avengers Idea Mechanics and New Avengers #1
- 7:17from 2015, written by Al Wing and Gerardo Sandoval.
- 7:23I never get his name right and I'm so happy.
- 7:25I just did have ruined the moment by celebrating.
- 7:29Sorry guys. So Sunspot's version of The
- 7:33Avengers was a unique lineup featuring Wiccan, Hulkling,
- 7:37Squirrel Girl, White Tiger, Power Man, Songbird, Hawkeye,
- 7:40and Pod. One of their biggest threats was
- 7:44The Maker, which is an evil version of Reed Richards who had
- 7:49made his way to Earth 616 after Secret Wars in 2015.
- 7:54So the New Avengers weren't around for too long.
- 7:58The New Avengers ran from like 2003 to 2012 ish in the comics,
- 8:02officially breaking up not long after Avengers versus X-Men,
- 8:07which is really really a fun storyline.
- 8:10You have to check that out. During that event, the New
- 8:13Avengers joined the fight against Cyclops X-Men, some of
- 8:17whom had been taken over by the Phoenix Force.
- 8:20After everything went down, Captain America decided it was
- 8:23time for a new kind of team, one that would promote unity between
- 8:28humans and marginalized groups like mutants and humans and even
- 8:33androids. This new squad, called the
- 8:35Uncanny Avengers or The Avengers Unity Division, operated out of
- 8:42the old New Avengers base. A few former New Avengers were a
- 8:46part of the original lineup, which included Steve Rogers, who
- 8:49is Captain America, Scarlet Witch, Thor, Wolverine, Rogue
- 8:53and Havoc. So that's the short version of
- 8:59who the New Avengers are. I can give you the long version,
- 9:02but I don't know how long you want to sit there and listen to
- 9:04me talk, 'cause it is. It's so much to go through, but
- 9:09if you guys want it I'll do it, but if you don't want it I will
- 9:13not do it. So choice is yours.
- 9:16So as far as the comics go, there is so much to cover.
- 9:21There's so much. A quick tip is anything Brian
- 9:25Bendis writes, you're on the right track.
- 9:28Bendis work is so recommended. He is so talented.
- 9:31I love what he's he has done with the New Avengers.
- 9:34His era is one of my favorite, at least for as far as writers
- 9:39go. So the New Avengers run by
- 9:43Bendis is 1 to check out. Avengers Disassembled, Avengers
- 9:50versus X-Men House of M which is one of my favourites.
- 9:58I'll I'm rereading it right now. I just love it.
- 10:01Next one is Civil War, Mighty Avengers by Bendis, Secret
- 10:09Invasion, Dark Avengers, Avengers slash, X-Men, Utopia,
- 10:19Siege. And like I said, you have to
- 10:23check out Dark Rain. It's so good.
- 10:25You it's just love it. But also one that like I thought
- 10:29was kind of cool was New Avengers volume to #16 This is
- 10:33where you can see Daredevil join the team for once, which I
- 10:39thought was pretty cool to see him as an Avenger, but that's
- 10:42just me. So that is the short version of
- 10:45who the New Avengers are who are there in the comics.
- 10:50They're not very much like the MCU, but that's OK.
- 10:54The MCU is just loosely based on the comics.
- 10:58It would be interesting to see if we got Uncanny Avengers at
- 11:01some point in the MCU because we given the fact that we are
- 11:04getting X-Men, we have the New Avengers.
- 11:08Thunderbolts is apparently a thing of the past.
- 11:10It was very short lived, probably about two hours to
- 11:14their lifespan in the MCU, which is a choice, but whatever.
- 11:22So yeah, the possibilities are pretty, pretty endless,
- 11:25especially come with Doomsday coming up and Secret Wars and
- 11:29all of the actors that will be involved in those.
- 11:32So I'm interested to see where they go with this.
- 11:34I'm interested to see what they do with the New Avengers if they
- 11:37end up all just being one Avengers team with Sam's
- 11:40Avengers, which feels pretty likely.
- 11:43So yeah, so let me know in the comments what you guys think of
- 11:47the change for from Thunderbolts to New Avengers and let me know
- 11:53what you think of the line up. Also, be sure to check out my
- 11:57review of Thunderbolts that I've posted Friday, maybe Saturday, I
- 12:04don't know, it's like 2 in the morning, who knows?
- 12:06So be sure to like and subscribe and have a marvelous day.