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Episode #315: The Silent Struggles of Motherhood · Tea Time w/Amie & Bev

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  Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, Welcome to tea time with Amy and Bev.
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  Speaker 1: Happy Mama's Day, Happy Mama's Day, and good Day.
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  Speaker 2: Good Day.
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  Speaker 1: Of course we're recording this on Mother's Day, so that's
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  Speaker 1: why I say that this isn't going to go out
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  Speaker 1: until the Thursday after, which is okay, but maybe you
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  Speaker 1: might listen to this on Mother's Day.
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  Speaker 2: So there you have it in the.
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  Speaker 3: Future, you have it.
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  Speaker 4: Every day is Mother's Day. It's Father's Day too, as
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  Speaker 4: far as I'm concerned, we just seem to identify it
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  Speaker 4: as a day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so how are things?
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  Speaker 2: Things are good? I thought maybe.
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  Speaker 1: If you're up for it being a mom, should we
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  Speaker 1: talk about that?
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  Speaker 3: We can.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting dynamics, isn't it is.
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  Speaker 4: It's like putting on a different hat altogether, and it changes.
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  Speaker 4: It kind of shifts everything a mom's hat versus a
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  Speaker 4: grandma's hat or you know, a sister's hat. It's all
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  Speaker 4: these different hats that we wear, and how we show
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  Speaker 4: up differently with those different hats on. It's kind of
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  Speaker 4: actually interesting now that you were talking about this.
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  Speaker 1: And when you put a mom hat on, when you
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  Speaker 1: decide to take on that role, you take on a
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  Speaker 1: bunch of other roles too that you didn't know come
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  Speaker 1: along with that, right, So a caregiver, a nurse, a teacher,
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  Speaker 1: like you would think, I you know, the oh, the
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  Speaker 1: the blanket is, I'm a mom, But underneath that's similar
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  Speaker 1: to being a wife. You take on the wife, the
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  Speaker 1: role of a wife or in a relationship, there's other
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  Speaker 1: hats that come along with it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe that's when people, maybe younger moms or just choosing
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  Speaker 1: to be a mom, thinking about being a mom, that
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  Speaker 1: might become the big difficult part is, Oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 1: there's so much more to this than I ever realized.
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  Speaker 1: Because you look at your own mom, your own mom,
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  Speaker 1: whatever fashion she showed up in. I know your mom
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  Speaker 1: showed up differently than my mom, and and they were
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  Speaker 1: our role models because they were our mom and them
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  Speaker 1: doing the best that they could with their skills and
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  Speaker 1: how they were raised and their belief systems and all that.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what they had to demonstrate for us, when
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  Speaker 1: in fact, there was so much more that we didn't
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  Speaker 1: see that was going on behind the scenes, maybe their
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  Speaker 1: internal mental emotional struggles, maybe they're trying to wrap their
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  Speaker 1: brains around even just taking on this new role of
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  Speaker 1: a baby that they have to take care of and
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  Speaker 1: how are they going to do it, and them wanting
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  Speaker 1: to feel loved, and so also maybe I know my
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  Speaker 1: mom was in that position of seeking relationships and seeking
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  Speaker 1: that love.
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  Speaker 2: Outside of herself.
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  Speaker 1: So there's this there's so many more things happening behind
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  Speaker 1: the scenes that and when she would get in the relationships,
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  Speaker 1: the relationships weren't that great, and you know her mental
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  Speaker 1: emotional struggle through that, And even though it's not talked about,
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  Speaker 1: the child can pick up on that energy and they
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  Speaker 1: know something's off, but they just don't know the details
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  Speaker 1: because now the mom's trying to protect the child from
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  Speaker 1: seeing or experiencing certain things. And so there's this whole
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  Speaker 1: incredible dynamic of being an infant or a child and
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  Speaker 1: your mom trying.
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  Speaker 2: To do her best in.
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  Speaker 1: Raising you in whatever that looks like. I know that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, there's been some amazing experiences and not so good,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, and just keeping that in mind that
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  Speaker 1: every person's doing the best they can, and but moms
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  Speaker 1: have that's a lot of a huge load.
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  Speaker 3: It is a huge load.
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  Speaker 4: And if and we could take that load off of
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  Speaker 4: our shoulders by just recognizing we're guides. We are a
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  Speaker 4: guide in all capacities. We're a guide for ourself, We're
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  Speaker 4: a guide.
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  Speaker 3: For our partner.
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  Speaker 4: We're I mean, really, in a generic statement, we're guides
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  Speaker 4: for everybody because they already have their higher self, they
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  Speaker 4: already have their team of spiritual guides.
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  Speaker 3: However you want to look at.
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  Speaker 4: They've already got everything that's around them, and they're going
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  Speaker 4: to live their lives the way they want to, no matter,
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  Speaker 4: especially for the kids, no matter if we have our
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  Speaker 4: thumb on them or not. You can think that you've
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  Speaker 4: got them pin down and you've got to figure it
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  Speaker 4: out and everything is this way, and it's never that
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  Speaker 4: way because they've got their own journeys.
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  Speaker 3: And if we can recognize that, it takes a lot.
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  Speaker 4: Of stress pressure off our shoulders of thinking that we
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  Speaker 4: have to do all those things. And also, you know,
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  Speaker 4: bringing them in to help facilitate whatever we're doing, if
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  Speaker 4: it's working in the yard, if it's doing a podcast
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  Speaker 4: or whatever. It's like, help will help me set up
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  Speaker 4: the camera or help.
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  Speaker 3: Me set up this.
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  Speaker 4: It's a it's like it's a including in all things
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  Speaker 4: because that gives them the experience and the opportunity to
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  Speaker 4: decide is this what I want to do? This is
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  Speaker 4: kind of fun, but also not feeling left out, which
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  Speaker 4: I also know is an inside job. And it's not
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  Speaker 4: our job to make sure everybody feels like they're wanted
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  Speaker 4: and they got their trophy. And it's not all about
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  Speaker 4: that stuff, because again, all the experiences that we have,
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  Speaker 4: each of us on an individual basis, are what helped
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  Speaker 4: to guide us into be the best guy we possibly
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  Speaker 4: can be for whoever's around us.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I know earlier in might day when I had
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  Speaker 1: my son that the best role model by no means
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  Speaker 1: I was an emotional mental wreck.
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  Speaker 2: I too seeking.
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  Speaker 1: Love outside of myself, dealing with all my pains and
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  Speaker 1: not knowing what to do with that, turning to alcohol
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  Speaker 1: to remedy that so I could forget about my reality
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  Speaker 1: and relax and have fun. So that's what the alcohol
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  Speaker 1: did for me, and so turning to a substance to
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  Speaker 1: be able to cope with life. None of that was
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  Speaker 1: a good being a good role model if you put
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  Speaker 1: stipulations on what a role model looks like. So by
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  Speaker 1: my standards, in one way was not a good role model.
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  Speaker 1: Was not teaching how to live life and how to
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  Speaker 1: embrace life and how to you know, love yourself. None
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  Speaker 1: of that that was not even in my wheelhouse at
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  Speaker 1: the time. And at the same time, I was a
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  Speaker 1: role model of this isn't healthy. So when you think
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  Speaker 1: about what your life experiences were like when you're you know,
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  Speaker 1: taking on that role of being a mom, that, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: on one hand, it wasn't the best and on the
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  Speaker 1: other hand, I was the best teacher I could be.
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  Speaker 2: Right, And then it's up to that individual.
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  Speaker 1: As a child, They're going to take on whatever it
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  Speaker 1: is I'm teaching. So my son taking on whatever it
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  Speaker 1: is I'm teaching in that time by how I'm behaving
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  Speaker 1: and how I'm reacting and reacting to things and how
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  Speaker 1: I'm showing up in life. And then he gets decided
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  Speaker 1: as he gets older, what is he going to do
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  Speaker 1: with that information? That's not my responsibility.
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  Speaker 3: M hm.
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  Speaker 1: So it's you know, it's just I think ultimately in
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  Speaker 1: this conversation, what I like to do is bring some
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  Speaker 1: ease to the moms who maybe have maybe having some
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  Speaker 1: diffficulty in their relationshipships and stuff. But in bringing in
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  Speaker 1: those spiritual aspects of you know, we are all each
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  Speaker 1: here for a journey for our spirit and this is
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  Speaker 1: a vehicle that they are operating through to have a
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  Speaker 1: human experience for growth and expansion on a spiritual level.
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  Speaker 1: And so is our kids and our grandkids, and our
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  Speaker 1: spouses and our brothers and sister Right, it's like all
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  Speaker 1: of us are here for a reason that we none
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  Speaker 1: of us absolutely probably could comprehend what that is.
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  Speaker 3: And it's not our responsibility, and it's a choice.
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  Speaker 4: It's just like everything you just said before that when
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  Speaker 4: you talk about how we raise our kids, because I wasn't,
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  Speaker 4: I don't feel like I was always the best role model.
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  Speaker 4: And that's only because I've acquired information since then. They
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  Speaker 4: can tell me that I could have been a different
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  Speaker 4: role model than the way that I was then, But
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  Speaker 4: they chose us, and so with all that experience they
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  Speaker 4: gained from us, they can either expand or they can contract.
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  Speaker 4: It's a choice. It's all a choice. So it's not
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  Speaker 4: anything we've done wrong. And so for me, because I
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  Speaker 4: used to do it all the time, I used to
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  Speaker 4: beat myself up and think, man, I should have done
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  Speaker 4: this differently.
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  Speaker 3: I could have been a better mom.
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  Speaker 4: Sure, I could have been a better mom with the
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  Speaker 4: knowledge and information that I have today, But I didn't
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  Speaker 4: have any of that knowledge and information that I did
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  Speaker 4: at that time. And so it's just a constantly, like
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  Speaker 4: you always say, showing up and doing and being better always,
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  Speaker 4: And that's in always that you show up, not just
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  Speaker 4: says to your mom or as the mom or as
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  Speaker 4: the daughter or any of those things. You're doing it
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  Speaker 4: and always, and it's giving ourselves some leniency and not
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  Speaker 4: putting so much pressure on ourselves to be so perfect,
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  Speaker 4: perfect according to what. And so then you have to
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  Speaker 4: kind of ask yourself some questions that kind of just
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  Speaker 4: leads you into that space of perfect according to whom,
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  Speaker 4: because you're perfect already the way you are, unless you've
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  Speaker 4: judged yourself against somebody else or you've been judged growing
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  Speaker 4: up and that was the perspective, doesn't mean that it's true.
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  Speaker 4: And so it's nice and it's for me, it's been
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  Speaker 4: freeing to be able to let that stuff go and
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  Speaker 4: know that it wasn't my responsibility. And even still I've
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  Speaker 4: pulled back even more.
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  Speaker 3: I can only do what I can do.
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  Speaker 4: I was, you know, trying to almost trying to kill
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  Speaker 4: myself in so many ways by trying to be everything
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  Speaker 4: for everybody, and it just doesn't work. That way, because
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  Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it was me that
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  Speaker 4: needed that attention, just like it's the kids that need
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  Speaker 4: their own attention as well. They need to learn how
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  Speaker 4: to do that, and they learn that by the way
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  Speaker 4: that we treat ourselves, because like you said earlier, it's
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  Speaker 4: not something that we say or do or expect. It
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  Speaker 4: is the due part. It is how we show up
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  Speaker 4: on the daily basis. It's not feeling like you I'm
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  Speaker 4: pretending like your mommy's having a great day when mommy's
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  Speaker 4: not having a good day. Sometimes we just don't have
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  Speaker 4: good days, and it's all right to let them know that.
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  Speaker 4: And then it's ways how do I find to love
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  Speaker 4: and nurture myself and find myself back into that balance
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  Speaker 4: where I don't feel bad Because as you're doing those things,
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  Speaker 4: you're teaching your children how to do the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: But not even trying to teach them anything. It's just
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  Speaker 4: teaching them to be more in a space of peace.
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  Speaker 1: And if you think about nature out in the wild
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  Speaker 1: with animals and such, that the animal is born and
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  Speaker 1: right away it's taught how to hunt, how to be cautious,
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  Speaker 1: you know, how to be aware.
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  Speaker 2: It's taught these.
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  Speaker 1: Not obviously animals not talking, but they have their own
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  Speaker 1: way of communication. And then it's like Mom's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: I did my part, off you go. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: like you need to go on with your life. A bird,
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  Speaker 1: I was actually quite shocked when I heard this for
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  Speaker 1: the first time.
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  Speaker 2: It's been years ago.
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  Speaker 1: But a mama bird she just takes off flying and
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  Speaker 1: the baby birds are expected to.
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  Speaker 2: Do the same.
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  Speaker 1: And you either fly or you or you fall. And
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  Speaker 1: and I've heard that there's a I don't know this species,
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  Speaker 1: but or maybe all of them I don't know, but
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  Speaker 1: they will mama bird will actually nudge them out of
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  Speaker 1: the nest to get them to fly. And it's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: you know how to fly, now, now you need to go,
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  Speaker 1: you know, build your own nest and get your own
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  Speaker 1: food and do your own thing and instead, and we
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  Speaker 1: as humans don't always.
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  Speaker 2: Do that, do we. We were just like, oh, you
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  Speaker 2: need to stay.
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  Speaker 1: With me, Oh we need to stay tethered. I need
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  Speaker 1: to take care of your problems. I need to be
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  Speaker 1: responsible for you for the rest of your life. Like
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  Speaker 1: we because we're human and we have these emotions and
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  Speaker 1: these thoughts and all these things that we take on
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  Speaker 1: additional role or responsible abilities that sometimes isn't okay. So
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  Speaker 1: as I say this, I have to kind of retract
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  Speaker 1: because when we bring in the spirit aspects to me,
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  Speaker 1: like you said, choosing the parent parents that are choosing
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  Speaker 1: how we get here, is those people that we're choosing
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  Speaker 1: to come through are going to put us in the
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  Speaker 1: exact situations or experiences that we need for our expansion
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  Speaker 1: and growth as a spirit being. And so it again
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  Speaker 1: go back to what I said, we don't know what
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  Speaker 1: that spirit journey is. And when there is a difficult
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  Speaker 1: relationship between a mom and a child, that I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to say you signed up for it because your spirit
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  Speaker 1: has some learning to do. Your spirit has experiences that
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  Speaker 1: they want to have for their expansion when they return
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  Speaker 1: back into that all loving energy, and.
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  Speaker 2: You don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 1: And so you're still even though it's a rocky, difficult situation, differ,
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  Speaker 1: difficult relationship, your spirit has some growth and expansion that
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  Speaker 1: is happening that you are like, we're all completely unaware
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  Speaker 1: of what's happening on that level. And as you said,
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  Speaker 1: it's all perfect. It doesn't matter how good you are
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  Speaker 1: being by whoever standards that is or how bad you
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  Speaker 1: are again depending on whose standards that is that maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's all perfect, maybe it's all playing out the way.
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  Speaker 2: It's supposed to. Yeah it is.
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  Speaker 4: You're saying all this stuff, and I'm just like sitting
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  Speaker 4: here thinking like we freaking were perfect on that in
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  Speaker 4: that moment, we were perfect. And how much to carry
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  Speaker 4: that way on your shoulders of thinking that there's always
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  Speaker 4: something you could have done better that's still undermine's self
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  Speaker 4: because that means at that moment and that perfection, we
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  Speaker 4: were trying to find something wrong with things when it
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  Speaker 4: was exactly the way it was supposed to be.
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  Speaker 3: There it wasn't. There was not an it wasn't supposed
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  Speaker 3: to be any other way. It just wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: And I can you know, there's so many scenarios, not
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  Speaker 1: only just mine my experiences, but being a witness to
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  Speaker 1: the relationships of a mother and a daughter. There's a
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  Speaker 1: relationship where the ma you know, a family, the dad
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  Speaker 1: dies and the mom you know, now she has to
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  Speaker 1: navigate life with three kids and raise them and have
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  Speaker 1: a career and do all the things. And then the daughter,
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  Speaker 1: the one daughter of the family, turns into a drug addict.
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  Speaker 1: And that relationship ship's been super difficult for several years,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, well, what if that's actually all perfect
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  Speaker 1: for her and for the mom for their spiritual growth.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe maybe if you bring in past life experiences that
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  Speaker 1: maybe roles were reversed in the previous life or another
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  Speaker 1: lifetime and their sole agreement was okay, let's flop roles.
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  Speaker 1: So we can each have that experience, one being the
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  Speaker 1: drug addict and whether they overcome that addiction or not,
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  Speaker 1: or you know, change the dynamics of their own life,
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  Speaker 1: or or you know, the mom is able to heal
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  Speaker 1: that turmoil or doesn't. Like what is it on a
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  Speaker 1: spirit level that they're getting, not just on a human level.
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  Speaker 1: And the human level is where we have our suffering.
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  Speaker 2: Side to suffer through that pain.
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  Speaker 1: And I am please, don't please, you know, with the
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  Speaker 1: audience watching, please don't think that I'm minimizing anybody's pain.
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  Speaker 2: I mean even you know, the.
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  Speaker 1: Loss of a child, a murdered child, a raped child,
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  Speaker 1: like any of those is not I'm not demeaning any
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  Speaker 1: of that pain that we feel. But what if it's
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  Speaker 1: in alignment with our spirit? How how do we know
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  Speaker 1: pain unless we experience it? How would our spirit no
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  Speaker 1: pain unless it experienced it through the human body. How
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  Speaker 1: would it know love? How would it know freedom? How
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  Speaker 1: would it know excitement or joy unless it's experienced through
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  Speaker 1: the human body, and through the human body, we get
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  Speaker 1: both right, we get both ends. We don't know what
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  Speaker 1: joy is until we know what loss or pain or
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  Speaker 1: suffering is. We don't know what love is unless possibly
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  Speaker 1: we know what abuse is.
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  Speaker 3: Makes perfect sense to me, it does.
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  Speaker 4: It makes perfect sense for the experiences, and it's it's
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  Speaker 4: also not to cling onto those experiences, those stories because
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  Speaker 4: it does, because otherwise we're using it as a defining
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  Speaker 4: for all the experiences we're going to have coming after that.
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  Speaker 4: And so to me, it's what we've got to, not
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  Speaker 4: we've got to It's an opportunity for us to see
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  Speaker 4: things from a different perspective, So we're not carrying that
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  Speaker 4: along with us and reliving it over and over and
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  Speaker 4: over again.
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  Speaker 3: Doesn't mean it didn't happen.
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  Speaker 4: It just means that we're so much bigger than that
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  Speaker 4: one experience, and so many times we can live in
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  Speaker 4: that experience over and over and over and over again,
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  Speaker 4: and being victimizing ourselves in a lot of ways by
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  Speaker 4: maintaining or keeping ourselves in that space. And so again,
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  Speaker 4: it's just all this stuff is an opportunity to you
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  Speaker 4: experience the pain part, well, what is the opposite feel
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  Speaker 4: of that? And we're that's what we get to do
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  Speaker 4: in this human experience. We get to feel like you
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  Speaker 4: just said that, we get to feel the sadness in
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  Speaker 4: order to recognize when we're super happy. We get to
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  Speaker 4: it helps us to navigate those feelings, help us to
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  Speaker 4: let us know which direction we're going in and when
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  Speaker 4: it comes to sadness and grieving and all that stuff,
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  Speaker 4: it's allowing the self to do that stuff. It's not
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  Speaker 4: as children, we a lot of us learn to kind
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  Speaker 4: of step that of side, or you know, put some
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  Speaker 4: rubs and dirt on that and go play, just ignore
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: your feelings and go carry on. But we're in a
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: space now that as adults are learning to feel those
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: feelings so that we're not stifling it or sticking it
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: down into a box in the basement of our bodies
• 19:54
  Speaker 4: for later on for it to come out.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: It's it's just.
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: I'm kind of glad, kind of going a little bit
• 20:02
  Speaker 4: a different direction. I'm kind of glad that of all
• 20:04
  Speaker 4: the experience that I've had. I'm even happy about the
• 20:07
  Speaker 4: stuffing that I did because now I've gotten to at
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: a stage where what we were talking about at a
• 20:13
  Speaker 4: while ago that I have a comprehension or an understanding
• 20:17
  Speaker 4: and I can see things from a different perspective. So
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: now I see it differently and I don't feel like
• 20:21
  Speaker 4: it doesn't need to stay in the box anymore.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: So it's like I.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Along the way have acquired tools that are like, oh yeah,
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: now that kind of makes a little bit of sense
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: why I went through that really dark time. It's all opportunities.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: It doesn't feel like opportunities when we're going through the
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: experiences for sure, but it's always finding the silver lining
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: and everything because I feel like there's and sometimes a
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: silver lining is how did you show up or how
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: did it affect your life that you changed so much
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: to become the person that you are today.
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Those are the kind of silver linings.
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: I'm not always saying there's a silver lining like you
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: were saying and the death, But to me, the silver
• 20:59
  Speaker 4: lining in a death is knowing that I still have
• 21:03
  Speaker 4: access to that person, that soul.
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: I can still communicate with them.
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: All they did was leave their avatar, and it was
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: an opportunity when that person left for me to go
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: with inside, to even navigate, to know.
• 21:15
  Speaker 3: That that person was still there this whole time.
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: And they're always there when we when we pay attention.
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: It's true so fun.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: And it's when I see those posts of I miss
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: my mom because their mom has transitioned, I think, man,
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: just sit and connect with your heart center and just
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: bring her energy in and she's there like right now.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: There's no there's no waiting, there's it's like immediate, she's there.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: I had a a.
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: Somebody I know who just recently had an experience is similar,
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: but it's most recent experience that I could that I
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: could share. As an example is h a person went
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: into a building and they're like, you know, when you're
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: it's pretty big building, and when you're in there, it's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: a little creepy and that the you know, there's noises
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: and stuff, and and she's just like she came back
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: and was telling me the story. She says, I was
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: just over there and I was like, okay, there's any
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: ghosts in here. I wanted to be my friend. I'm
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: just gonna say Ben. I wanted to be my friend Ben.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And And so she got done in the building, and
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: she walked outside and a motorcycle drove by, playing a
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: song that reminded her of her friend Ben, and it
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: was that the not the lyrics, but the music that
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: she had written a poem for to read at his
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: funeral services. And when she came in was telling she
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: was just a man.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: Gosh, he heard you.
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: He was letting you know, he's with you.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: He's letting you know you heard it, you know, or
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: she heard you, and all these things. And she was
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: just like, oh my god, who this guy? You know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: and just kind of beside herself. And I was so
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: excit elated about it, like that's so exciting, you know,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: trying to keep the energy up, and but it's like that,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: you know, She's like, you call on these people, on
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: those that have transitioned your mom, your grandma, whoever was
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: that mother figure, anybody really, but we're on the topic
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: of mom. So and you just bring their energy in
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: and then watch and witness what happens. Well, for me,
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: it's it's you know, hummingbirds and dragonflies. For my grandmother,
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: she was a mother figure for me. She raised me,
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: and and so you just you just pay attention, the songs,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: something some words, somebody says would be exactly what that
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: mother figure would say, you know. So, so it's like,
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: don't discount that they're not here in physical form, because
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: they're absolutely with you in spirit form.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Ever since, I'm so glad you said that Happy Mother's Day,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: mom My mom's in the spirit, Happy Mother's Day. And
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: what I was recognizing too, the grief is great because
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: it's a releasing of so many different things, all the
• 24:28
  Speaker 4: way back to childhood. To me, it's just a path
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: of least resistance. You can just let it all flow out.
• 24:34
  Speaker 4: But on the other side of that that grief is
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: that connection you have, that recognition of that connection, and
• 24:40
  Speaker 4: grieving helps you purge and release a lot of these
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: things that may have made your your rose colored glasses
• 24:47
  Speaker 4: a little bit muddied. So it's it's it's a way
• 24:51
  Speaker 4: of clearing things up so that you can see that
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: they're always here with us and we can fill them
• 24:56
  Speaker 4: and like you said, picking up and having songs that
• 24:59
  Speaker 4: show up.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Or seeing numbers that you wreck.
• 25:01
  Speaker 4: My mom was born on ten ten, so it's like
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: ten ten is a very big thing. And if I
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: hear a reading or if I see an a license
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: plate or whatever. It's like I always know besides that
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: she's always showing up in things, even when I don't
• 25:13
  Speaker 4: ask her to, right, But that's like.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: A mom sometimes, I mean.
• 25:18
  Speaker 4: But on the other side of that, that would be
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: me recognizing her. That's how Mom was in some ways.
• 25:24
  Speaker 4: So you know, it's a wonderful thing. It's a wonderful
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: thing to have all these experiences. And then with all
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: the emotions that we've gotten to feel because of all
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: the experiences we've had, now we can express or feel
• 25:37
  Speaker 4: the things that the person's feeling. On the other side,
• 25:39
  Speaker 4: maybe they were sad for the way they left things,
• 25:42
  Speaker 4: and you could feel that sadness withinside of yourself and
• 25:44
  Speaker 4: then but you don't have to hold on to it.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Or then now they're happy for.
• 25:48
  Speaker 4: You because oh my gosh, they can see things so
• 25:50
  Speaker 4: clearly now and look at how great you're doing. And
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: now you get to feel that energy. So we're so
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: lucky we get to be in these physical bodies to
• 25:57
  Speaker 4: feel all these emotions because it's a language. That's what
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: this body has been. It's learning a different language, and
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: so then we're learning languages of all the people that
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: are around us. We're learning the language of our children,
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: we're learning the language of our mothers, we're learning the
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: languages of everybody that's around us. And it's an awesome thing.
• 26:16
  Speaker 4: And we've got all these amazing tools and those feels
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: that we have that are so beneficial in us navigating
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: things and being able to feel so much more love
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: for an individual, loving them so much, but feeling that
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: not at just being words.
• 26:33
  Speaker 3: And a lot of times I think people grew up
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: with just the.
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: Words because that's you know, there was not the emotion,
• 26:39
  Speaker 4: the connection of the emotion behind those words coming out.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: So now we're learning that.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: So when you look at your kids and you say
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: I love you, you really freaking love them like you're
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: really feeling it. You're looking at them to I love you,
• 26:51
  Speaker 4: not just at the back of their head as they're
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: walking away, it's all the time. It's giving them a
• 26:56
  Speaker 4: hug and looking them face to face and telling them
• 26:58
  Speaker 4: how much you love them.
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: That means more than anything in the world. Those are
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: the things that they're going to remember.
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: That face that you see is what you're going to
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: remember always, whether it was your mom or your kids.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: It's a it's a blessing.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: When you think about the dynamics of relationships in general.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: But that relationship between a mom and a child because
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: of that physical connection that they've had for nine months
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: or so or you know in that area. Some babies
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: are born sooner than that.
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: But and that.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: There's I feel like there's more of a spirit connection
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: between a mom and a child that because the mom's
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: the mother's intuition, So mom's intuition is way stronger than
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: because of that physical connection. And it's different, not to
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: put down dads, but it's a different experience for a
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: father figure with a child than a mom's connection, not
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: necessarily relationship, but connection to the child. Even if that
• 28:22
  Speaker 1: child was adopted or even if that child was artificially inseminated,
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Like there's still connection that is stronger in a way
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: that a lot of people don't understand.
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: I will I will.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Funny, not funny because it was supposed to be a
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: surprise for me, but it was two years ago.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: I believe.
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: It was like a I don't know, the Thursday Wednesday
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: or Thursday before Mother's Day, and my son didn't live
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: here in the area that I live in.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: He lived three and a half hours away.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: And I said to my husband, I'm like, I feel
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: like Matt's going to be here this weekend by Mother's Day.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: And sure enough, he showed up at the doorstep Sunday morning,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: you know, knocking on the door.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: And so it's just you just have this sense.
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: My grandmother, this is my my grandparents.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: Would get they rode motorcycle.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: Quite often, and they would go on these motorcycle trips
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: and they would be gone and my grandmother one time
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: was a major incident happened with my uncle. My grandmother said,
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: I believe they were in California or something. My grandmother
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: looked at my grandfather and said, we need to pack
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: up and leave now. Now. This isn't a time before
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: cell phones or anything else. Like she just knew.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: We need to go home now.
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: And there was a there was this major incident to happen, Like,
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: how do you know that? How do you just know
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: these things are happening with your children? And so she's
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: very intuitive that way.
• 30:24
  Speaker 4: And the best way to be intuitive is to be
• 30:26
  Speaker 4: quiet and listen. Yeah, because you feel all these things
• 30:29
  Speaker 4: and we don't have to always say them, because that's
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: something I've been practicing. I don't have to say, oh, hey, Freeman,
• 30:35
  Speaker 4: I just picked this up or whatever this is happening.
• 30:37
  Speaker 4: I just keep it and I listen to what I heard,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: and then I see sometimes it comes up, sometimes it doesn't,
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: but I just see what kind of comes up from it.
• 30:44
  Speaker 4: And it's that's my way of playing, or my way
• 30:47
  Speaker 4: of knowing that I'm intuitively picking up things, or how.
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: Easy it really is.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: The quieter that we've gotten, which is pretty amazing, and
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: it's and it can't be super loud too. Our intuition
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: can be super loud, can be it's not always usually
• 31:05
  Speaker 4: it's that still small voice they say. But it's that
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: that's not always a truth or it's nagging, because it'll
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: say it over and over again, not with an energetic nag,
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: but with a don't forget to get.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Your keys, go get your keys, go get your keys.
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: Whatever, something simple as that before you leave. And then
• 31:25
  Speaker 4: I'll leave and I'm like, damn it, I.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Was told like three times. I was told times.
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: But it's because you know, we get busy with other
• 31:33
  Speaker 4: things or what we think that we should be doing
• 31:35
  Speaker 4: or whatever.
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: It's like in that moment, and that's the practice.
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: Really, it's in every single moment is to listen to
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: the little nudges and then follow through and then see
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: what happens after that, which has been a lot of
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: stuff that I've been playing lately. It's just really falling.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: That's our passion. But we'll talk about that in the
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: next episode.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: Make a note. I remember we are.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I was gonna say something, No, I lost it.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: It's okay, so mom being a mom. We'll just wrap
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: this up that. You know, being a mom is is
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: a huge job, if you will, job responsibility.
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: I was gonna talk about survival.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: So in our early days, I know Bev and I
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: both were in survival mode when we had our children.
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: Child and and uh, you know.
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: When you're in survival mode, you know you don't really
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: have or haven't learned. I didn't know. I didn't learn
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: till later in life to be quiet, as you said,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: like when you're sitting in some silence or allowing some silence,
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: that's when you're that intuition is a lot stronger.
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: But when you're when I was young.
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: Mom, like I said, I was emotional and mental wreck
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: that I had no space to be quiet. They're in
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: my head, in my body, in my life. There was
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: no space to be quiet, and so yeah, the person
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: I am today is definitely nowhere near the person I
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: was when I gave birth and and now and Bev's
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: practicing this now that if, if, or when there are
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: any grandchildren in my experience, my interaction with them thousand
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: times different than what it was when with my son,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: like not even not even fifty per ord, like thousand
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: percent different, because that person is way different in me.
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: Exactly.
• 33:48
  Speaker 4: We can't go back once we've learned all this information
• 33:51
  Speaker 4: and knowledge and we've gotten to the point where we'rever
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: right now. There is no going back there is it's
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: only going forward. That's it, and it's it's an it's
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: an awesome journey because we made it through that part
• 34:03
  Speaker 4: of it already, and who knows what we're going to
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: look at in the future. But it's like, in this moment,
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: it's like I realize all the things, all the reasons
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: that we had to all those experiences, because we do
• 34:14
  Speaker 4: show up and it is an opportunity for our kids
• 34:17
  Speaker 4: to see a different side.
• 34:18
  Speaker 3: Of us, not to be like, well, this is bullshit.
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: My mom didn't raise me this way.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: It's a look at it and know that I have
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: different tools than I had then. So you can use
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: the same tools that you're using right now, or you
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: can start implementing some different tools.
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Or you can take the tools that I'm.
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: Using right now and modify them to fit and make
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: it feel better for yourself.
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: It's just an opportunity.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And the other thing I was going to say earlier.
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: When I had mentioned the difficulties, the really hard experiences
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: between a mom and a child, that.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: How many, how.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Many communities of people have come together because of some
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: kind of a hardship, whether it was drug addiction or
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: murder or missing or whatever that case might be. How
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: like the amount of people that come together because of that,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: and those relationships were formed and bonds were made because
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: of a heart experience and the beauty of that, Like
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: if that child hadn't let's say, exited, meaning transitioned, died,
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: that you would have never met these groups of people,
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: or you may not have created that group of people
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: to come together for healing. And so what if the
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: dynamics is or was that agreement between you and your
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: spirit and their spirit, your child's spirit that you come
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: in as the mom, they come in as child, This
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: experience is going to happen. But the beauty of what's
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: going to happen is you start a group that's going
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: to create healing and comfort and compassion for.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: A huge group of people.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Right, So, keeping in mind that something traumatic turned into
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: something so incredibly beautiful for so many people, and maybe
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: that's what your spirit's journey was all about to begin with.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: But something had to trigger that flip that switch for
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: you to go on that journey to help all these
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: people thousands and there's groups that like millions of people
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: are part of that for their healing purposes of whatever
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: experience they had. So anyway, there's so much beauty in
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: what we see as maybe heavy or traumatic. And remember that,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: and remember that if you are going through something where
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: you feel like you're alone and nobody understand and you
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: need support that there are the Moms against Drunk Driving,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: there's there's uh was it parents helping parents?
• 37:11
  Speaker 4: I think it's helping parents heal you helping parents or
• 37:15
  Speaker 4: or something like that. So I would look into that
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: for sure, because again that's one of those huge, huge
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: organizations that came up and really listened to the what
• 37:24
  Speaker 4: people would call wu woo and everything else. But it's
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: contact it's information, it's it's it opened another door for
• 37:31
  Speaker 4: them because of the experiences that they had, and it's
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: like they didn't look at it as that was the
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: end right there, that was the end of life and everything.
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: Because anybody that's left us in this plane, they've left
• 37:42
  Speaker 4: their physical experience, doesn't want us to be unhappy, just
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: like we if we were to pass to day, we
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: don't want our families to be devastated and unhappy that
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: we're not here. We want to be celebrated, celebrate us, right,
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: and so we celebrate them.
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, celebrate them, Celebrate that you had the time you
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: had with them, for sure. And for the moms that
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: are in it right now with a relationship with their
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: child that may be uncomfortable, do the best you can.
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: Love yourself through it first and foremost, love yourself through
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: it and allow that healing and nurturing for yourself for
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: whatever that situation may be.
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, lean on spirit, Leana, go on, go within, because
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: that's the that's huge because there's so many things that
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: we feel like we don't have control over. Especially one
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: of the experiences I know of is having experience with
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: my brother was addicted to drugs and stuff but I'll
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: tell you, his energy was so freaking powerful, So I
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: would say that to kind of tie this all up.
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: His experiences were for everybody else's growth. It was around
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: him as well, maybe even more so than just for
• 38:57
  Speaker 4: his own growth, because I feel like he was such
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  Speaker 4: a strong power already, and so it was for everybody
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  Speaker 4: else's growth to kind of let go and allow him
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  Speaker 4: to have that experience.
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  Speaker 3: It was his life. It wasn't up to us.
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  Speaker 4: Just because someone doesn't live the way we live or
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  Speaker 4: think that they should live, doesn't mean they're doing it wrong.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, friends, every day is a mother's day.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with BEV, like it never goes away, even
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  Speaker 1: when you're when your child has grown and into adulthood
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  Speaker 1: and have their own life, it's still it's still a
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  Speaker 1: part of your daily existence, and we just do the
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  Speaker 1: best we can. But also remember to celebrate you. Celebrate
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  Speaker 1: your accomplishments, Celebrate how far you've come, Celebrate your healing.
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  Speaker 2: Celebrate where you are.
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  Speaker 1: If you're in the middle of the muck and guck,
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  Speaker 1: it's okay, and you have a lot of spirit support,
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  Speaker 1: and there's lots of physical support out there for connection
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  Speaker 1: with other humans. So be sure to reach out if
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  Speaker 1: you're struggling, but ultimately we're here I feel to learn
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  Speaker 1: to love ourselves and our children. Will definitely give us
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  Speaker 1: the opportunity to.
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  Speaker 2: Learn how to do that if that's the path we choose.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, So you can find us on many platforms. We're
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  Speaker 2: Bev and I have been.
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  Speaker 1: Doing this since twenty nineteen twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty twenty,
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  Speaker 1: right before write about time everything shut down, so six
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  Speaker 1: So with that, thanks for hanging out. With us, tea
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  Speaker 3: Bye,