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Peter Weber Reacts To Former Producers' Book and A Bachelor Nation Alum Attends Taylor Swift's Wedding! · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast
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  Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.
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  Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome back to another episode of the Almostimous podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Ben is not here. And I know Ben and I
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  Speaker 2: have been doing very few podcasts together lately. It's been sad,
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  Speaker 2: but it's because I'm not allowed to do the housewive
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  Speaker 2: podcasts that he's doing with Lauren, which are I love.
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  Speaker 2: And then he's been out shooting his show and he's.
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  Speaker 3: Also like, you know, living his life. He took a
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  Speaker 3: nice vacation, which he so deserves. So it's summertime.
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  Speaker 2: So sorry. It will resume to regular schedule programming in
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  Speaker 2: the next month or so, all right, but until then,
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  Speaker 2: don't we love having Heather. Heather is such an expert
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  Speaker 2: because Heather does give such insight as to casting. She's
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  Speaker 2: a pop culture She's very, very educated on pop culture.
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  Speaker 3: Cleonline is what Ashley's trying to say.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, but we are great full for it. You have
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  Speaker 2: so much good insight. So this first headline he responded
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  Speaker 2: just perfectly. Chris Harrison has been asked. He was at
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  Speaker 2: a golf championship this weekend and he was asked about
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  Speaker 2: the Taylor Frankie Paul drama, and he had a great response.
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  Speaker 2: He said, I'll say this all this makes me more
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  Speaker 2: excited about my new show. I mean that is PR
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  Speaker 2: savvy Chris Harrison. No, well, you know Chris has had
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  Speaker 2: his moment of not being PR savvy. We've seen it.
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  Speaker 2: But this is a great answer. And then he said
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  Speaker 2: that he is excited about the show that he has
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  Speaker 2: produced executive produced with his wife Lauren that's going to
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  Speaker 2: be on Fox Nation. It's coming out this fall. He said,
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  Speaker 2: it's a dating love show that I've always wanted to
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  Speaker 2: do after seeing what's going on with Bachelor Nation and
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  Speaker 2: watching other shows. He says that all the shows that
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  Speaker 2: I'm watching, I'm excited to be bringing something different. I
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  Speaker 2: think what he means is he's doing a dating show
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  Speaker 2: that's like pretty wholesome. It is about it's very marriage oriented.
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  Speaker 2: It's about people that like want a calm, happy dating
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  Speaker 2: environment and not one where there'll be a lot of
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  Speaker 2: drama thrown their way.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna jump in and say that there's gonna have
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  Speaker 3: to be some sort of drama. It's a TV show,
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  Speaker 3: so there will be something, but it's I just think
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  Speaker 3: it's leaning more to We're not going to be seeing
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  Speaker 3: people in bikinis doing Love Island kind of stuff. Is
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  Speaker 3: I get that vibe?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah? Like I said, I've only watched one episode of
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  Speaker 2: Love Island and the guy was bragging about sleeping with
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  Speaker 2: four hundred women, and I was just like, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think it's the show for me.
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  Speaker 3: Well, if anybody's listening, it's the show for Heather her.
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  Speaker 3: Heather is very proud of herself because she actually hasn't
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  Speaker 3: fallen behind on I have watched all thirty something on Time.
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  Speaker 3: The only ones I skip are after Son, because let's
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  Speaker 3: be real, we all skip after Son. But I'm I'm
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  Speaker 3: fully I've made it part of my daily routine and
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  Speaker 3: that's how I stick with it and like keep on
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  Speaker 3: track every single night. I'm like, all right, little bit
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  Speaker 3: of Love Island while I'm working, and I'm in Okay,
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  Speaker 3: I got it, No who got kicked off? I'm good bye.
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  Speaker 2: So I just can't watch shows that I'm not fully
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  Speaker 2: invested in. I'm just not a background watcher. Like I
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  Speaker 2: can't watch and work at the same time because then
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  Speaker 2: I will end up rewinding every scene.
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  Speaker 3: Be like what I will do a whole thing where
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  Speaker 3: I will crank up the volume if I think something
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  Speaker 3: like really important's happening, and then I'll like mute. So
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  Speaker 3: like Love Island every single night does like a really
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  Speaker 3: nice recap at the beginning of every episode of anything
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  Speaker 3: you missed from the previous one. So I don't ever
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  Speaker 3: feel like I'm super at a loss. I will say,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe because I'm just getting older. The
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  Speaker 3: show is not clicking with me like it used to.
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  Speaker 3: I think it is part of a generational thing and
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  Speaker 3: just how gen Z communicates and acts in these kinds
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  Speaker 3: of environments that's very different than the millennial dating shows
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  Speaker 3: we've been watching for the last decade. So It'll be interesting,
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  Speaker 3: honestly to see how things play out on this Chris
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  Speaker 3: Harrison one, because I'm assuming it will also be gen Z.
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  Speaker 2: See, I'm feeling like it's gonna be millennials, just like
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  Speaker 2: the Younger Tale, and like they're gonna be early thirties.
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  Speaker 2: But you're right, like, how do you have a getting
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  Speaker 2: show of just early thirties?
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  Speaker 3: Even younger millennial is now like mid thirties.
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  Speaker 2: Well, technically, I think the last year is they're turning thirty.
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  Speaker 2: I think the millennial the last year of millennials turning
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  Speaker 2: thirty this year, which I feel like the I think
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  Speaker 2: that's the technical thing. That's technical. Do I agree that
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  Speaker 2: a part of our generation? Yeah, they're too cuspy, Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: they're far so Wait, I want to know what do you.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I can pinpoint the difference between
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  Speaker 2: gen z and and millennial, but I just think overall,
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  Speaker 2: we're like much more well, I think we're harder workers
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  Speaker 2: for sure.
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  Speaker 3: Don't I get into it?
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  Speaker 2: Well, please please, And then we're also much more polite
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  Speaker 2: and social, and they like, don't give any gurus. Oh sorry,
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  Speaker 2: I said that.
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  Speaker 3: It's fine. I also love that you say that. By
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  Speaker 3: the way, I'd never heard anybody save Garup.
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  Speaker 2: I just only say Drew. I guess I think it
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  Speaker 2: like lightens it. It's funny. Yeah, they're.
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  Speaker 3: I've said this to somebody else that's watching this season.
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  Speaker 3: The language that they use this is like gonna sound weird,
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  Speaker 3: but they use therapy terms and very not typical terms
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  Speaker 3: you would hear a twenty some thing use. And I
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  Speaker 3: think it's because of just the chronic online the buzzwords
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  Speaker 3: that are being used, like they constantly are saying to
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  Speaker 3: each other, like your feelings are valid, your feelings are valid,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, yes, I never would have said that
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  Speaker 3: when I was twenty one years old to somebody else,
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  Speaker 3: you know. So it's very much like some of that
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  Speaker 3: stuff where I'm like, you say words and you don't.
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  Speaker 3: It makes you sound older than you are, and I
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  Speaker 3: don't know if you fully understand what you're saying. And
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  Speaker 3: then they actually have said a lot of words, like
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  Speaker 3: simple words like incorrectly. I can't think of one off
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  Speaker 3: the top of my head right now. But it's like
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  Speaker 3: instead of compromise, like an example, instead of compromise, we're
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  Speaker 3: gonna comprise. Ah, yes, yeah, things like that, and it's like, uh,
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  Speaker 3: but it's I will say that the environment because they're
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  Speaker 3: constantly together and it is very It's produced in a
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  Speaker 3: different way than The Bachelor, and I think that's why
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  Speaker 3: it resonates with an audience is the sense that producers
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  Speaker 3: actually never enter the villa, so they never see them.
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  Speaker 2: What oh yeah, so you only talk to them in confessional.
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  Speaker 3: Rooms only and they never see them dru.
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  Speaker 2: Like the speaker. That's what we did on Stars on Mars. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so I didn't like it.
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  Speaker 3: The villa has like over eighty hidden cameras, so that's
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  Speaker 3: what's filming them at all times. So they there's no
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  Speaker 3: camera crew in your face, absolutely no camera crew, no producers.
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  Speaker 3: The people come in to feed them, and that is
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  Speaker 3: not The only meal that's shown on the show is breakfast.
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  Speaker 3: You don't see them eat lunch and dinner. And that's
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  Speaker 3: because they come in feed them and they separate them.
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  Speaker 2: To see them like the animals and the.
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  Speaker 3: Seale literally and they make them separate. They make the
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  Speaker 3: boys and the girls separate meals, and they're not allowed
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  Speaker 3: to talk like when they eat and so. And what's
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  Speaker 3: also crazy is they have the drink rule as well,
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  Speaker 3: so to see then they get the drinks. You can't
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  Speaker 3: see what I'm doing with my hands. The amount of
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  Speaker 3: alcohol in their cup is so tiny during the end
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  Speaker 3: of the night that I'm just like, so you did
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  Speaker 3: all that weird shit, Yeah, sober.
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  Speaker 2: This is why you're on the podcast. Okay, you know
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  Speaker 2: all of these details. It's it's crazy. I mean the
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  Speaker 2: show to me, I still do stand by that.
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  Speaker 3: I think Love Island is one of the greatest dating
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  Speaker 3: shows of all time, just because I mean, they do
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  Speaker 3: the bombshell thing better than anybody. And then just the
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  Speaker 3: fact that they have America voting and randomly the Islanders
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  Speaker 3: will be told like you're kicked out of the villa
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  Speaker 3: because America doesn't like you. Like that is an element
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  Speaker 3: that other shows don't imagine.
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  Speaker 2: I would be eliminated so early on if I have. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: there were times if people wud be like Ashley and
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  Speaker 2: you're done, You're done.
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  Speaker 3: So Amaya Papaya from last season was very Ashley coated
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  Speaker 3: and she won. Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 2: You would?
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  Speaker 3: You could have been a villa favorite like Amaya. Papaya
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  Speaker 3: was crying all the time and she was singing to herself.
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  Speaker 3: She was like an neb SAIDA was perfect and that
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  Speaker 3: is actually a very accurate portrayal of how she sang
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  Speaker 3: just what I did, and we loved her for it.
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  Speaker 3: So you would definitely transpire onto the Love Island audience
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  Speaker 3: if that had been your avenue. I just you would
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  Speaker 3: have been very scared being a virgin in the villa.
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  Speaker 3: That would have been actually horrific for you. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if they've had a virgin in the villa. I
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  Speaker 3: feel like they have on UK, but I don't know
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  Speaker 3: about US. I haven't watched all the US seasons. To
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  Speaker 3: be totally fair. I watched more UK before I transitioned over.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, so thank you for the deets, though, I mean
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  Speaker 2: you're making me actually a little interested in watching. But
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  Speaker 2: I can barely get through one episode of a scripted
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  Speaker 2: show per week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah you can't.
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  Speaker 2: I keep falling asleep in the middle of Cape Fear.
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  Speaker 2: So like Cape Fear has been met my like what,
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  Speaker 2: she makes a weird face.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
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  Speaker 2: Oh with Amy Adams and Harvey or Bardam is executive
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  Speaker 2: produced by Spielberg and This Scarsese. It's on Apple TV.
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  Speaker 2: You are such a reality TV girl. It's hilarious because
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  Speaker 2: I am just a scripted girl, even though I am
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  Speaker 2: a reality contestant. Yeah, I need my escapism and its inscripted.
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  Speaker 2: But I like try to watch a half an hour
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  Speaker 2: every night and it's just like, oh, five minutes in
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  Speaker 2: good night. But I really like the show.
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  Speaker 3: It's just I did want to tell you I'm sad
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  Speaker 3: this week because.
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  Speaker 2: Your first non Rory week.
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  Speaker 3: It's my first and by the way, the fact that
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  Speaker 3: people call it rory, I actually had no idea. Somebody
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  Speaker 3: on our team said that and I was like, ror,
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  Speaker 3: what are you talking about? I thought they were talking
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  Speaker 3: about Gilmore girls. They were like Housewives and I was like, wait,
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  Speaker 3: that's so cute. But yeah, I'm actually sad. This is
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  Speaker 3: my first week without besides you, without my girls on
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  Speaker 3: my screen, and it like it kind of makes me
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  Speaker 3: bummed because there's not a season of Housewives right now
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  Speaker 3: that I'm like really vibing with. So it's gonna well,
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  Speaker 3: obviously we're gonna be recapping Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip
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  Speaker 3: Roaring twenty starting next month. Not me, guys, Ben and Lauren.
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  Speaker 3: So we're excited about that because we'll get to see
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  Speaker 3: some fan favorites on that.
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  Speaker 2: Ben learning about other classic Ladies lore might be hilarious.
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  Speaker 3: The funniest part was that he didn't know what the
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  Speaker 3: twenty meant, and I go, oh, twenty years. The show's
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  Speaker 3: been on for twenty years and they have and Lauren
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  Speaker 3: were both shocked at that.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I feel like Lauren shouldn't be. We're so shocked
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  Speaker 2: at that. My mom used to like watch Ramona and Luanne.
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  Speaker 3: This is why these feel like my friends because I
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  Speaker 3: have been watching for a very long time.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, there, Amy Robot and TJ Holmes here from the
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  Speaker 4: Amy and TJ podcast where we are doing the exact
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  Speaker 4: opposite of taking a summer vacation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't do that. There's entirely too much going
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  Speaker 2: on in the world right now to not be talking
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  Speaker 2: about all this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, drama at the White House, drama at the World Cup,
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: drama about the Reflecting pool, and yes, drama at the
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  Speaker 4: Villa pool on Love Island. All day, every day, we
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  Speaker 4: have you covered with the latest breaking news in the
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  Speaker 4: stories everyone will be talking about.
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  Speaker 3: Listen to Amy and TJ on the.
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  Speaker 2: You're talking about hook ups, right, We're talking about Love Island. Well,
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  Speaker 2: we got a hook up headline. Did you guys miss
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  Speaker 2: our Julia l'placa interview that aired a couple days ago.
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  Speaker 2: Go check that out if you're so willing, because there's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of people out there that don't. They're not
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  Speaker 2: on Julia's team right now. Not to say that we're
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  Speaker 2: on teams, we're not. I would love to have Peter here.
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  Speaker 3: We're definitely not on teams, and people should listen to
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  Speaker 3: both sides, especially an interview where the host read the book.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember, like back in the day when people
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  Speaker 2: would like be delivered two sides, and then they have
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  Speaker 2: to make decisions on their own without vilifying the people
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  Speaker 2: who are just having the conversations.
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  Speaker 3: Or how about we actually go off the quotes that
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  Speaker 3: the people involved are saying. So I would love for
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  Speaker 3: you to read what Peter is actually saying verbatim, because
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  Speaker 3: then we can also talk about the words he's not using.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, So Peter said, I just find it ironic that
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  Speaker 2: Julia is coming out with a book all about finding
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  Speaker 2: your truth and searching for love when the entire time
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  Speaker 2: I was trying to do just that on my season
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  Speaker 2: of The Bachelor with her as my main confidant and
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  Speaker 2: guide her and throughout the process her actions said otherwise,
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  Speaker 2: So he's saying that he thinks that Julie was manipulative
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  Speaker 2: to him, Well, read on and good God do it. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: I am, by no means a victim of all of this.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a grown man who's responsible for my actions, and
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  Speaker 2: I know that that's a big one. That being said,
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  Speaker 2: I'm going through an experience. That being said, going through
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  Speaker 2: an experience like I did involved a certain level of
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  Speaker 2: trust being given to people I really didn't know that
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  Speaker 2: much about at the time he said, I'm having a
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  Speaker 2: hard time understanding how Chris Harrison and Julie can both
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  Speaker 2: endorse this type of book when they know how badly
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  Speaker 2: they let me down. And then lastly to have her
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  Speaker 2: laugh in my face, Well, I was very vulnerably expressing
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  Speaker 2: my reasons for wanting to be left out of this
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  Speaker 2: book was unforgivable. And yes she knows. I have the
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  Speaker 2: conversation corded, so lots of stuff there that we would
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  Speaker 2: have enjoyed asking Julie. We did ask her about her
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  Speaker 2: producing during his season, and based on what I read
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  Speaker 2: in the book, nothing seems like she produced him out
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  Speaker 2: of him, out of having a love story.
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  Speaker 3: Well, also we have to he's he's implying that the
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  Speaker 3: comments that she made about Hannah were coming from a
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  Speaker 3: personal place. You would look like an idiot if you
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  Speaker 3: gave her the rose. He's implying that there is absolutely
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  Speaker 3: no way that that comment could have been a producer
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  Speaker 3: comment from a producer from a professional standpoint. So that
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  Speaker 3: is a judgment that he is making. And I want
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  Speaker 3: to say that we're actually never going to know the
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  Speaker 3: answer to that question, because she is ndad up the
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  Speaker 3: wazoo that she is never going to be able to
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  Speaker 3: say or speak to what kind of conversations executives had
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  Speaker 3: with her that were maybe influencing what she was saying
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  Speaker 3: to him.
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  Speaker 2: I want to know if there's other examples that he has,
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  Speaker 2: because that one exam seems to be the only one.
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  Speaker 2: Does It doesn't do it for me because I felt
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  Speaker 2: I have been told many things like that behind the scenes,
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  Speaker 2: where it was like, you're gonna look like a dumbass,
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  Speaker 2: you should probably chill, and and honestly, the one moment
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  Speaker 2: to me that really sticks out about that, I knew
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  Speaker 2: that they were telling me the truth, and I did chill.
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  Speaker 2: This is, of course, his moment is more romantically based.
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  Speaker 2: It's not behavioral based. It's it's well, of course it is.
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  Speaker 2: But it's like if you give her a rose, if
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  Speaker 2: you give her a declaration of like acceptance and like love,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna look dumb.
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  Speaker 3: I think that Peter has every right to say what
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  Speaker 3: he said and feel the way that he feels. And
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  Speaker 3: I think that she has every right to say and
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  Speaker 3: do what she wants because it was a part of
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  Speaker 3: her experience as well. What I'm going to say is
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  Speaker 3: that the word groomed grooming was not used by Peter whatsoever,
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  Speaker 3: So until Peter uses that language, I'm not going to
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  Speaker 3: put any weight behind that term.
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  Speaker 2: I think what Nick would argue with you is that
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  Speaker 2: somebody who is groomed doesn't necessarily know that they are.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think this was grooming. I think that this
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  Speaker 2: was to people of similar ages and of similar power rankings.
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  Speaker 2: And there was a crush on her end, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know what it was well on his end
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  Speaker 2: during filming, and I from what I'm reading in the book,
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  Speaker 2: doesn't seem like there was any sort of power pull
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  Speaker 2: or any sort of influencing about her feelings onto him. Do.
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  Speaker 2: I think that the book in general is something that
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  Speaker 2: I would never do this right. I wouldn't like I
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  Speaker 2: would have respected my friendship enough with him to never
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  Speaker 2: reveal such secrets. I can't. I feel really bad for
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  Speaker 2: the position that Peter's in, while I was made very
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  Speaker 2: clear in the Julie interview that I don't think that
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  Speaker 2: he has anything to worry about. I think that he
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  Speaker 2: looks like a nice man here, and I'm sorry if
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry for what he's going through, because like he's
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  Speaker 2: probably feeling embarrassed and all that stuff.
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  Speaker 3: I personally think that that's where this is coming from.
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  Speaker 3: I think that it's coming from a place of embarrassment.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm going to say this too. I mean, Hannah
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  Speaker 3: Brown said multiple times about their sexual romps on camera
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: that have lived on in memes and clips and all
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: sorts of things. I have never heard him say publicly. Oh,
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: I wish Hannah Brown would keep that to herself. That
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: was a private moment. We all know about sex and
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: the windmill four times people like so, I I just
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: think that, like, if that is upsetting to you, again,
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: you have every right to be upset that she is
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: now making a book and profiting on it. I understand
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: that there's we are talking about semi different situations. Yeah,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: but are you mad that she's profiting on it or
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: are you mad that she revealed it? Because what you
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: keep saying is that you're upset that she revealed a
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: private moment. Well, Hannah Brown has also revealed a private moment,
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: and I don't see the same sort of outrage.
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: The thing is that Hannah did talk. It was like
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: within the means of the show, like it happened in
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: a wind mail on the show, So we'd.
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: Have to know, but it also happened off can but
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: it also happened off She did not need to say that, just.
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: The way this happened off camera at his parents' house.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: I just want to say that I have a lot
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: of sympathety towards Peter right now.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Absolutely who wants to be living in the press and
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: having this.
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah for him, what I don't want, you know, go
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: on whatever podcast, go on next podcast. I would love
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: to hear his conversation with Nick.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Also, Peter's in a relationship and he's extremely happy, and
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: we're happy for him, So I can't imagine having to
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: navigate that with your girlfriend, like all of this that's happening.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna say though, we will be reading the book
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: on our new spin off series with Kalen Bell and
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: giving a really honest conversation because I think it's important.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Like I'm giving my opinion right now based on like
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: my background, but I have not read the book, and
• 20:37
  Speaker 3: I want to make an educated, like comment on what
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: I have to say, and maybe my opinion will change
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: after reading it. Maybe it will just reinforce things. But
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: we are going to read the book and you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: review it here on the pod.
• 20:58
  Speaker 5: Welcome to The Orange Doesn't Fall, the podcast where Reality
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: TV meets real life. I'm Tamra Judge.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: And I'm Sophia.
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: Each week we're spilling the tea on pop culture, relationships, motherhood, dating, drama,
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: and what it's really like growing up in the middle of.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: Reality TV chaos.
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: One of us lived.
• 21:16
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• 21:18
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• 21:23
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• 21:28
  Speaker 2: Let me tell you this, guys, I read the book
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: months ago, when none of this controversy was happening, so
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: I read it through totally different eyes. If I reread it,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: which I'm sorry I don't have time to do right now,
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: I could see it through a different view. I could
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: there might be certain parts. I don't know. I read
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: it like a rom com, and I looked out for
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: Peter while reading it. I was like, is this gonna
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: be some something that pisses off? It's gonna be something
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: pisses off, And there are parts like yeah, but I
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: thought overall, it just still looked like a nice guy.
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: And then let's go into one other thing that I
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: just read. Peter said that he had a ninety minute
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: conversation with Julie before the book release, where he asked
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: for some discretion when it came to sharing intimate details
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: about their relationship. And then he says, like I already said,
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but I'm rereading it to have her laugh
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: in my face while I was vulnerably expressing my reasons
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: for wanting it to be left out. It's unforgivable and
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: it's on record. I mean, like, dude, if you feel so,
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: I release it, because I mean, that's it's threatening. It's
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: also like that sucks if she laugh in your face
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: while saying that. I don't know, you have to listen
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: to it. I don't know if I'm Pete.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: I'm writing my own book.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna read it. I'm gonna read it.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna write my own book about me flying into
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: this next chapter of.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: My life, flying into it.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: How to put that in there and just make your
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: book bigger, better, whatever like that? Use the fuel to
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: the fire.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: His book is so so good already in my head
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: because we have Hannah in the windmill. We have him
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: between Maddie and Hannah Ann, which that was why old
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Kelly Kelly and now this, you have four relationships five
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: that I want to read about. So that's go for
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: Peter Pete.
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: Just go do that. Go write your own book and
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: we'll happily read that one too.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Use some of the quotes from the phone call. We're good.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Let's do it all right.
• 23:44
  Speaker 3: Last headline, if you were to think who is going
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: to Taylor and Travis's wedding from Bachelor Nation.
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: Yo, I have so many thoughts on this wedding, but
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to air them out publicly.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: And I don't mean that in a mean way. I
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: don't mean that in like a particularly mean way, but
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: I know the swifties out there. It's scary. It's almost
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: like talking politics when you talk to swifties.
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: No, we definitely won't get into that, but because I
• 24:09
  Speaker 3: can't handle it either. But I want to know, what
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: did you think when you saw Becca and Hailey that
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: they had gone to the wedding? Were you?
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: My initial reaction was jealousy, of course, because I'm an
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: honest person. Okay, I may have been judging certain elements
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: of the wedding all weekend and loving being on Instagram
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: trying to get every single detail and every guest and
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: really trying to figure out what it looked like inside there.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: But I am jealous that they got to experience it,
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: and they got to see what was See what it
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: looked like inside, See what are dressed looked like? Hear
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: those vows, See what the interminglings were, the seating arrangement,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: if it really looked like Masson Square garden, all of
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: the things. But I'm also happy that if there was
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: one person in my circle that got to experience it,
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: then it was back in Tilly and oh my gosh,
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: I mean, how cool, seriously, how cool. No matter the
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: thought that I think it was. Actually my most controversial
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: take is this, I'll say it, Oh God, should I
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: say it?
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: The raffle?
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: No? Not the raffle. It's that like to me as
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: I followed somebody's love life for twenty years, and yes,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: is it a my like do I own her love
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: life or all her decisions that she makes with it?
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: Now?
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: But have I been invested in her story and how
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: is and has she in a huge way been involved
• 25:32
  Speaker 2: in the soundtrack of my love life? I wanted something
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: that felt less commercial. Okay, that's all felt commercial to me.
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: Well, we'll leave it at that. I'm not a fan,
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: so I don't have anything to say on that. But
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: Becca said that on her podcast that.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: She said apparently nothing I heard. I was like, she
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: couldn't reveal anything, but I can't believe she didn't tell
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: Tanya until she sent the dress picture.
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: She did say that they got the invite a few
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: months ago. She said it was incredible food, played games,
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: and she didn't participate in the bouquet toss because you know,
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: she'd already found her person, so she didn't want to
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: be involved in that aspect.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Wow. So there was a bouquet toss.
• 26:20
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I saw who got it. It was a
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: football player's girlfriend or guest or something. And it was
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: a very small bouquet which was which was shown, and
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: so people in the comments were like, calm down, guys,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: that's not her bouquet. That was her toss bouquet or somethy.
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: It's really tiny. But anyways, you know who caught my bouquet?
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Who the who? No, Nick, I did it on purpose.
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: I like it. I was like, oh my god, I
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: forgot to toss it. And then I we literally were
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: like Nick, get out there, ging out there, and like
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: I basically just stood it and now look the arrival
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: of his three children happened this week.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. That And what did I say say
• 27:00
  Speaker 3: last time I saw you? I said, do you think
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: they're gonna announce it this weekend? And you were like, no,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: bird literally the day he out with it, So we
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: can jump to that. Yeah, Nick and Natalie welcome their
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: twin girls and kind of revealed the meaning behind their names,
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: which are Dove Tomlin Vial and Iris Parker Vial, their
• 27:25
  Speaker 3: rainbow babies. So now that they're they're a family of five.
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: I can't believe things like this happened so fast. It
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: feels like yesterday. And Nick called us until as well
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: as they're they're having twins, and now they're out, it's nuts.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So it's Dove and Dove Tomlin Viall, which is very pretty. Dove,
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: Natalie says is significant because of losing her dad this year.
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: She said she heard mourning doves all the time. And
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Iris's core meaning is rainbow, which after losing three babies,
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: is crazy that they had three lost pregnancies before these twins.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: These these being our rainbow baby. Is that name felt right?
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: And then she said it's also my favorite flower. Irises
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: her mom's Sarah Flower and then Tomlin. The middle name
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: of Dove is for my Natalie's grandmother's maid name, and
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Parker is Nick's mother's maid name. We're very happy for them,
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and it seemed like it was a really nice delivery,
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: So congratulations. Nick is a girl dad, and I could
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: imagine nothing else.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: A lot of estrogen in that house, and I love
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: it for him. This headlined is so funny to meet.
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: Lindsay Hubbard addresses Matt James hookup rumors after they were
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: spotted together. The hookup from this is so funny because
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: it's literally just a picture of them like at a.
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: Bar walking in.
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: It's so funny. But Andy asked Lindsay on Watch What
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Happens Live on Tuesday, he said, by the way, there
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: are rumors about you and Matt James hooking up. And
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: she said, I don't know what you're talking about, and
• 29:03
  Speaker 3: he goes, yes, you do, and he goes, you're very online,
• 29:07
  Speaker 3: and she goes, there are a lot of rumors about
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: all of us because we're all single, and she said,
• 29:14
  Speaker 3: it's going to be a hot girl summer. So basically,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: Dumois earlier this month had a tip that said Lindsay
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: Hubbard walked into the event with Matt James, who it
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: seemed like was her plus one. It also said Matt
• 29:33
  Speaker 3: had his arm around Lindsay and he was caressing her
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: shoulder in a flirty, cute way. It says the post
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: what it definitely looked like they were flirting. Thought it
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: was cute that they were all the same table hanging
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: out and having fun together, including Carl, Lindsay's X. And
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: so Lindsay responded to the post and said, oh, cute
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: and flirty. I'll take it. I'm gonna say this. I'm
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: not a longtime Summer house watcher, and I know you've
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: met Lindsay. I think she's way too much personality for
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: a Matt James. Like she's also a single mom. Like
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I don't know if that's in Matt James's cards right now.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: This seems like if they're hooking up at best, there's
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: not gonna be any great romance that evolves.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: I don't see it.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: You don't even see it, Like maybe they're just flirty,
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: friendly friends.
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: I just think it's so funny how a rumor can
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: spark that quickly.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is this is really like a big deal.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: I mean, Glenn Powell is a movie star, a movie star,
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: and he spent his weekend with Cassie Randolph and he's
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: been hanging out with Rachel Lindsay.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Rachel Lindsay was in this group.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: She was in the group. Hey, yes, oh my gosh,
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: had I didn't see her in the pictures, but I
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: was really looking for the pictures between Glenn and Michelle.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: So obviously, you guys, you know that Cassie Randolph's her sister.
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: Michelle Randolph is like a pretty big actress right now,
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: and she's been dating Glen Powell. But they made it official.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: They hard launched the thing, and he did it on
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: his Instagram this weekend or fourth of July in Texas.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: It was really cute. There's a picture of Cassie of Michelle,
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: just like a solo shot of him in in the carousel,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: and then you scroll a little bit further and you
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: see that there's a picture of them kissing. This is serious.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: Most A list actors don't hard launch relationships like this,
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: So I think it's gonna be a long one.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Can I just say something I've learned from the headlines
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: this week? Yeah, if you go on the Bachelor. You
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: could be at anywhere and Travis's wedding, or your sister
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: could be dating Glenn Powell. People. Yeah, like this is
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: the power of the Bachelor nation. Like these people would
• 31:53
  Speaker 3: not be in these scenarios had they not been on
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: the back.
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: Ste I know it's so true. I don't know. Michelle
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Well may have been an actress, I guess.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Sure, and Michelle's gorgeous. Come on, I could have crossed
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: with Glenn Powell at some point. But but Becca getting
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: to Taylor and Travis's wedding. I mean, it's guys, if
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: you're ever wondering should I sign up for the reality
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: dating show, I think this is your episode to realize
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: maybe I should.
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: That.
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: Yes, seriously, it's a it's a good time. It's led
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: me in a really fun direction.
• 32:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you could be a housewife, like all these things
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: happened from the universe. But anyways, I really liked this episode.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: Lots of good.
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: Headlines this week. That's a good headlines. And congratulations to
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Kendall Long who's expecting a second baby. Her other baby,
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: her first was born March twenty twenty five.
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: So how about I didn't realize when I was putting
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: this together that she had another baby. Oh yeah, I
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: was like a little out of it, Like I was
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: like baby number two, where's baby number one? Like I
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't remember any of that. But yeah, happy for them.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, that's another magical story. So funny to go from
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: her being so upset over Joe a few years ago
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: to having just discovered that her real match was waiting
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: in the wings.
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: Does she still do taxidermy?
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know. That was just like a fun hobby.
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: It wasn't like her profession.
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: Oh okay, yeah, that's what I associate her with.
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: But anyway, of course, all right, guys, thank you so
• 33:26
  Speaker 2: much for listening. Talk to you next time.
• 33:28
  Speaker 3: Until then, I've been Ashley, I've been Heather Bye.
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