Latest / Sarah Knows Support Workers / Keeley’s Cause: From School Exclusion to 691 iPads for Kids With Autism
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- 0:00Hi, everyone. It's Sarah.
- 0:01No support workers. And today, we're going to talk
- 0:03about something that's really interesting and intriguing and
- 0:06there's a lot in the sector happening.
- 0:08And I'm so glad to have you, Sharon.
- 0:10Oh, thank you. Thanks Sarah for having me all.
- 0:12Right now we're going to get down to the nitty gritties
- 0:14because I am nosy as hell. You're ready.
- 0:16Yeah, go for it. All right, so.
- 0:18Ask away. Achilles calls.
- 0:20Achilles calls? Did that start from school?
- 0:22So yes, Kelly struggled in primary school.
- 0:26It started around probably grade three, grade 4.
- 0:29So Kelly was struggling. I noticed that things weren't
- 0:34above board. Like Kelly at that time was
- 0:36diagnosed with Asperger's and so had her brother before.
- 0:40But the difference between the two of them was really prominent
- 0:44for Keely and I knew she was struggling.
- 0:46So I approached the school and asked them could we get a
- 0:49cognitive report? And they told me that Keely
- 0:52wouldn't meet the criteria for funding just to tap into one of
- 0:55the aides in the room. So we did that.
- 0:57Then grade 4 come and she was still struggling.
- 1:00She didn't know timetables and everything, and they were
- 1:03putting her up to grade 5. So I had a really big issue with
- 1:06that because why are you putting my child up to grade 5 if she
- 1:11can't do her times tables? Because she's only got another
- 1:14two years before she gets to high school.
- 1:16And if she doesn't know them, she's really, really going to
- 1:18struggle. So while they weren't happy
- 1:20about keeping her down, we kept her down.
- 1:22I encouraged them to, you know, do times tables and everything
- 1:26with her, but no. So grade 6, they signed Kelly
- 1:29off, Grade 6, Year 7, ready. But prior to that, the doctors
- 1:32had said that Kelly needed technology to support her.
- 1:36And the school decided that they would overrule that because what
- 1:40would the other parents say if Keeley had an iPad and their
- 1:43kids didn't? And I said that's like saying to
- 1:46the blind boy that he couldn't, can't bring in his guide dog
- 1:49because others will want a puppy.
- 1:51Like, it's just it's ridiculous. Yeah.
- 1:53If you've got a child, no matter who they are, if they need extra
- 1:57supports that help them along the way, then then that's what
- 2:01they should get, right? Even if it was only because they
- 2:04had iPads there. So even if it was only a couple
- 2:06of hours or whatever. So then grade 6 come, they
- 2:09signed off, Grade 6, year 7 ready.
- 2:12And then we decided to home school Killy because Killy was
- 2:16being bullied at school by teachers and by students, and
- 2:20there was only one bus out to Ballarat and a number of those
- 2:24bullies were on that bus. So you're talking 30-40 minutes
- 2:28away. If something went wrong then
- 2:30that's a long way to go and get to her before she's in a state.
- 2:34And we've been through this with my son in Year 7.
- 2:37He was getting engraving pens in his back and being bullied that
- 2:41way and he was only 15 minutes away.
- 2:43So this was a big concern. So we went into foots grade to
- 2:48the psychology school there that did the reports.
- 2:51We saw them for five visits and then we got Kili's cause report
- 2:54back. So came back saying that Keely
- 2:57had an IQ of 62, functioning at a grade 3-4 level, requiring a
- 3:02full time aid and also a mild intellectual disability.
- 3:07So while that was good in one way, it wasn't in another.
- 3:11So Keely kind of went through a depression state where she
- 3:16thought she was dumb because we explained that there was a mild
- 3:19intellectual disability that impacted on her learning.
- 3:22So we went through a couple of weeks, I think, of depression.
- 3:26And then two weeks later, she was sitting in the back room
- 3:31under the window and she just turned to me.
- 3:33She was 13. And she said, you know what,
- 3:36Mum, we have a right to an education as much as anyone
- 3:39else. We have dreams too.
- 3:40And I said, you know what, Kelly, you're absolutely right.
- 3:42And she said, good, I want to start a charity.
- 3:45I want to call it Kelly 'cause I want to design the logo.
- 3:48I want to find two kids that have what I have.
- 3:50I want to raise money through sausage sizzles and I want to
- 3:53buy them each an iPad. Keely still never had her own.
- 3:56Then she said, And I want to go global.
- 3:58So I said, well, let me get it off the ground first and
- 4:01register it and see how we go. So we were with the lions at
- 4:06that time. Well, I still am, but Keely was
- 4:08a cub and we went to see them about, you know, how do we do a
- 4:12sausage sizzle to raise money and they asked us what for.
- 4:16So they decided that they would take Kili's cause on as a
- 4:19project, which it still is today.
- 4:21So 2 sausage sizzles turned into 59.
- 4:25Kreswick Lions found out that Kili still didn't have her own
- 4:29iPad and they sponsored hers. We are now 691 iPads.
- 4:34So there's no government funding.
- 4:35We receive none. It's perceived that everyone
- 4:38owns an iPad in the world, so there's no need to fund them.
- 4:43But for kids with autism and intellectual disabilities and
- 4:46also the specialist schools who aren't funded unless you've got
- 4:50an iPad, then your child's got nothing.
- 4:53So Keely decided she was going to bridge the gap.
- 4:55There's not another organization doing this on a full time basis.
- 4:59And so she decided she was going to make it her mission to change
- 5:02that. And that's how Keely's cause
- 5:04became along. Wow, that's quite a big story
- 5:07and I hope you don't mind if I unpacked it a little bit more.
- 5:10Go unpack it. Unpack it.
- 5:13When she first came to you and said I want to do this, did it
- 5:16did it surprise you that she was quite an advocate in our sector?
- 5:20Yes, because Keely was a select mutive.
- 5:23Yeah. So Keely, as you saw before,
- 5:27doesn't really get involved in talk.
- 5:29She feels judged a lot because she was bullied for it.
- 5:32So Keely used to always just pull off me, make me speak on
- 5:37her behalf, yada yada yada. So when she came up with this
- 5:40idea, I was kind of taken back. But then I wasn't because of the
- 5:45way the kids are being brought up.
- 5:46I knew that there was some some fire in her, that she would
- 5:52always find her place in this world somehow and we just didn't
- 5:56know where or how. And they all do in one way or
- 5:59another. They all find their way, and she
- 6:01found her niche. Did you expect?
- 6:05To blow up. Did I expect it to blow up?
- 6:07Absolutely. Yeah.
- 6:08I said yes. She said to me, will it work?
- 6:11And I said, I don't know, Keely, but I'm going to back you 100%
- 6:15going to give it a go. And if it works, it works.
- 6:17And if it doesn't, it doesn't, we can at least say we gave it a
- 6:20go and here we are. National charity.
- 6:23She's won I think 1617 awards, three of them international.
- 6:30I think it was two years ago she was put on the Victorian women's
- 6:33honor roll as the youngest ever to go on it since 2001 and
- 6:39there's only 735 people on it. So and then she won the Diana
- 6:43Award in the UK and I think it's because she's doing something
- 6:48that nobody else is doing. But it comes from lived
- 6:50experience. It's as she said, she doesn't
- 6:53want anyone to have to go through what she went through.
- 6:56It was hell. So if she can bridge the gap and
- 6:58prevent half of that, then she's she's made a difference.
- 7:02Yeah, 100%. Was there any moment where you
- 7:06guys were like, God, this is really hard, Maybe I just throw
- 7:09in the towel. Yeah, I think it comes when
- 7:11you're trying to look in with for funding and partners and
- 7:14sponsors and stuff like that. It's a lot of work because
- 7:17because we can't get the funding in any way, we have to rely
- 7:21heavily on the community, corporates, businesses.
- 7:25So yeah, that was really hard. I think the break for me was
- 7:28when we were able to get a sponsorship with Brighton Auto,
- 7:33and that came with a car. And then that made me realize
- 7:36that they're saying something that we see, and if they can see
- 7:41it, then so can everyone else. And as we've grown and evolved,
- 7:45the people that understand the autistic community are the ones
- 7:50that come on to support. But also not just the community,
- 7:53it's people that know someone. There's always someone in
- 7:56business that knows someone. Oh, my friend's got autism or my
- 7:59cousin's got autism, or, you know, so there's always someone
- 8:03that knows somebody. So the more we share our story,
- 8:06the more people see it, the more people support it.
- 8:09What was the feeling like when you got to give the first iPad
- 8:13to somebody? That was amazing.
- 8:15Her name was Amy. We still see Amy every now and
- 8:19again. Amy, I think she was about what
- 8:21is she's 17 now and we've been going what, nine years?
- 8:26So she would have been 8. And Amy was very much like Keely
- 8:30struggled. She was like a mini Keely
- 8:33struggled with, you know, talking and everything.
- 8:35She's now 17. She's I think she's passed her
- 8:39year 12 already. She's doing amazing work and
- 8:42going on to do some things that other kids might not normally
- 8:47get. But for a child with autism and
- 8:50a disability, that's that's a huge gig because that iPad is
- 8:55what helped her to get there. Because the iPad holds the
- 8:59teachers accountable, right? Every school has individual
- 9:02learning plans for kids with disabilities.
- 9:04But depending on the school and depending on the teachers, it's
- 9:08whether they get it or not. And there's a lot of teachers
- 9:11doing amazing things out there. And if it wasn't for Keely's
- 9:14Grade 2 teacher who brought to our attention that Keely
- 9:18struggled with paper based work, she gets them all wrong, wrong
- 9:22every answer. But if you put that same test on
- 9:25a computer and ask her one by one, she gets them all right.
- 9:29So she first brought that to our attention.
- 9:32So then when we saw Amy struggling, we knew that the
- 9:36iPad would help her because it's not only about communicating and
- 9:41education, it's also about regulating their meltdowns and
- 9:45stuff like that. So to a child with autism or a
- 9:48person with living with autism, that iPad technology is their
- 9:53whole world in a way that they understand beyond us.
- 9:56Because our world is unpredictable and their world is
- 10:00literal. Their anxieties come from our
- 10:03unpredictable world because it's ever changing.
- 10:06I always say I'm like, I'm so glad I live in now compared to,
- 10:11you know, a couple of 100 years ago because I really would not
- 10:13have thrived as I do now because technology has come such a long
- 10:17way. And that gives us me to do
- 10:20things that we never would have thought was possible.
- 10:22And you know, for anybody that is neurodivergent, you do get
- 10:27stuck in a box. Yeah, absolutely.
- 10:29You get, you put in that box, right, Whereas the iPad, because
- 10:33it gives you a tailored education location to your
- 10:36individual needs, then you get to thrive the way you need to
- 10:39thrive. If you're just going to school,
- 10:41you're, you're learning current talk curriculums, right, which
- 10:45is great. But for people with autism and
- 10:47for Keely, they can't do them because the steps now.
- 10:51So when we went to school, adding up was 345 and 372 when
- 10:55that was your figure. Now it's a seven step process,
- 10:58right? So, you know, and, and the words
- 11:01and the processing of the information, like Keely can read
- 11:04a whole book from back to front, but she can't tell you what it's
- 11:07about. So when she got her tailored
- 11:10individual learning plan, that's when everything started to
- 11:14change. That's when her confidence grew.
- 11:17The charity has helped her. She thinks she's helping lots of
- 11:20people, which she is, but she doesn't realize that that this
- 11:23charity is actually helping her. So it's built her confidence.
- 11:27It's helped her to speak better. She's doing things that she
- 11:30would never do. Like we're working and part time
- 11:33and you know, now we're doing our course in education support
- 11:37work. Yes, she's struggling, but we're
- 11:40just helping her and guiding her through the best way we can.
- 11:42And because at the end of it, despite all the, you know, the
- 11:46work that you've got to do, that end product of her being an
- 11:49education support worker is what she wants to do because she
- 11:53wants to give back to those that's helped her.
- 11:55Because, as she said, without their support, she wouldn't know
- 11:58half of what she knows. Because when she went to the
- 12:01specialist school, she was taught how to be an adult in a
- 12:04real world, you know, how to bank, how to go travelling, all
- 12:07those things that count that don't often happen.
- 12:10Her growth once she hit that specialist school was huge.
- 12:14She had no friends in mainstream school.
- 12:16She had so many in the specialist school that were just
- 12:19like her that she still has today.
- 12:21So, so, yeah. So a lot of people say I don't
- 12:25want my child going to specialist school.
- 12:27You know, it demeans them because of the other children
- 12:30that are around. But that's not the case because
- 12:34if you if you look a child with a disability, they automatically
- 12:38flock to other kids with a disability.
- 12:40So my son when he was younger, Yep, my son in in Kinder, he was
- 12:474. His best friend was a little
- 12:49girl that had epilepsy. Now she was having nine to 10
- 12:53seizures a day. And one day I went to pick him
- 12:55up from Kinder and she'd had a seizure and he wasn't leaving.
- 12:59And I said to him, we've got to go home.
- 13:00He goes, I'm not going until Cherie wakes up.
- 13:04So we waited and waited. And then she woke up.
- 13:07And then his next friend was someone in a wheelchair.
- 13:10And because they get each other because they understand each
- 13:13other's struggles, whereas it's harder sometimes to make
- 13:17friends. And Lee also had auto processing
- 13:20disorder. So that kind of delayed the
- 13:23conversation. So he was, you know, 2
- 13:25conversations behind and then they go, oh, what are you
- 13:28talking about? So that started a lot of
- 13:30bullying as well. And they're saying for Keely,
- 13:33because Keely was different and because the focus in school was
- 13:37about what she wasn't doing, that allowed her to then be
- 13:41bullied in the playground because, Oh my God, the teacher
- 13:43said you're naughty and we can't play with naughty people.
- 13:46And, and it just starts. And there's so many things that
- 13:50need to be changed in the school setting.
- 13:52I think teaching empathy and inclusion and discussing
- 13:56different types of disability needs to be taught every week
- 13:59because the whole world is filled with it.
- 14:02It's not going to change. You guys are quite empathetic
- 14:05towards people. They come from all walks of
- 14:07life. Absolutely, absolutely
- 14:10everybody. Everybody's got a right to be
- 14:11here. And everybody has different ways
- 14:14of learning, whether you've got a disability or whether you
- 14:16don't. And I think we have to adapt to
- 14:18that. You know, if we're adapting to
- 14:19everything else, we need to adapt to those sorts of things.
- 14:23Because as Keely said, everybody has a dream of being someone
- 14:27someday too. So if you give everybody the
- 14:29opportunity, then there's no reason and for everyone to say I
- 14:33didn't get that because you were given it.
- 14:35It's what you do with it. It's what you do with that
- 14:37opportunity. So at the moment in the NDIS,
- 14:40it's a little bit spicy and it's a little bit hard and difficult
- 14:45and everything in between. And getting an iPad can be very
- 14:48difficult and under people's plans to have so people can
- 14:54communicate. What are some of the changes
- 14:56families have told you since receiving an iPad for their
- 14:59kids? The biggest change is for a non
- 15:02verbal family, they get to hear their child's voice where
- 15:06they've never heard it before in communication.
- 15:08Because I've seen so many people walk up to people that are non
- 15:12verbal and stand in front of them and go, hello, can you
- 15:16understand me? Yeah, they can understand you.
- 15:19They hear every word you say, right?
- 15:22And a lot of parents. You up before you got there.
- 15:25They probably are on automatically.
- 15:27Got a chicken thinking this person is not something I want
- 15:30to hang. Out with absolutely, absolutely.
- 15:32And there are a lot of parents that think because their child's
- 15:35non verbal and that they can't hear them speak that they don't
- 15:39have the options that many have. But if you give that child that
- 15:43is non verbal technology, the words that come out of their
- 15:47mouth, the things they write blows you into next heaven.
- 15:52So we took an iPad. We had to present three iPads at
- 15:55the Children's Hospital one day. Two were coming from 2 hours
- 15:58away and one was in the hospital.
- 16:01So Keely presented the iPads and one of the boys was non verbal
- 16:05and Keely would have been about 15 and the mother had a bunch of
- 16:08flowers for Keely. Keely couldn't understand while
- 16:12the why the mother was giving her the flowers when she was the
- 16:16one gifting. So I had to explain to her that
- 16:18this wasn't just a about her giving an iPad, he was non
- 16:22verbal. You were changing the family
- 16:24dynamic as well. This family was now going to be
- 16:27able to communicate with their child beyond anything they had
- 16:31before. She hung onto those flowers for
- 16:34about 8-9 months till they were wilted and rotted.
- 16:37Because she's never done it for what she can get out of it.
- 16:41She's always done it selflessly. So nobody has to go through.
- 16:44And that has been the main thing.
- 16:46Nobody has to go through what she went through.
- 16:48It was a hard time, you know, kids used to come around here
- 16:51and knock on the door to play with her and I'd hear her crying
- 16:54out the front and they'd be stepping on her right.
- 16:56And I went out and I said, if you don't like her that's fine,
- 17:00but don't, don't do this to us. Stay away from her.
- 17:02And she was hysterical. You know, there was the year
- 17:05that we did the grade 4, you know, I want a birthday party.
- 17:08I want to invite everyone. I went, Oh my God, we never got
- 17:111 reply. I had booked a jumping castle
- 17:14face painter. Keely wanted a dress up day.
- 17:17My girlfriend knocked on the door.
- 17:19So so she came in with her son and daughter and then that was
- 17:22it. So Keely said, mum, what's wrong
- 17:25with me? And I said, there's nothing
- 17:26wrong with you, sweetheart. It's wrong with everyone else.
- 17:30So it's that it's that stigma that Oh my God, that person's
- 17:34got a disability. You know, we don't want to
- 17:36associate with them and that mother.
- 17:37And every time they bring the child, the child plays up Da da
- 17:40la. Well, that's really great, but
- 17:42let's roll reverse it and let's take the shoe off the foot and
- 17:45place it on your own. What if this was you and you had
- 17:48a child with a disability and you were navigating the world
- 17:51that they're navigating? You know, sometimes people just
- 17:54need support and guidance and just someone to say, I might not
- 17:58understand your journey, but I'm here to learn.
- 18:00And sometimes the more that you learn about their journey
- 18:03creates a bigger bond and situation that these kids can
- 18:08still be part of a normal life. I've been lucky that my friends,
- 18:11when they don't understand, they'll always say, hey, Sharon,
- 18:14I'm not sure on this. Can you fill me in?
- 18:16What's the go here? And that may be a meltdown or
- 18:19whatever. And then I'll explain why they
- 18:21do it. And they go, OK, yeah, we get
- 18:22that. So Lee, when he first met his
- 18:25friends in year 7, he told them that he had Asperger's and
- 18:29whatever, and they didn't understand that.
- 18:30So because he was in a school that supported neurodivergent
- 18:34kids, they went to one of the teachers and said, look, Lee's
- 18:37got this, but we don't know what it is.
- 18:39And the teacher explained, they go, yeah, OK.
- 18:41And then that was the end of it. And then the friendship just
- 18:43kept going. But at least they went and asked
- 18:46and I think that's more important.
- 18:48Like don't judge because sometimes the mum just needs
- 18:51support too. They live a very lonely life.
- 18:54If there's no friends, it's lonely.
- 18:56It's a lonely life for for some of the families.
- 18:59Hard to see your kids struggle to be honest.
- 19:01Yeah, that's right. And then you've got them that
- 19:03have lost their families because their children have a disability
- 19:07and their own parents don't understand.
- 19:09And that's that's even sadder. Yeah.
- 19:12Yeah, So I always say put yourself in that position
- 19:15because this could have been you, too.
- 19:17It's not, but it could have been.
- 19:19And see, this is another thing, you know, when when there's an
- 19:22autistic child or whatever, when we meet someone, we want the
- 19:25whole romance and, you know, happy ever after and Cinderella.
- 19:29But nobody's sitting down and saying, hey, what do we do if we
- 19:33have a child with a disability? There's not a discussion about
- 19:36that. And there should be.
- 19:38And it may never happen, but you've got people that, you
- 19:40know, I'm going to have two kids and, and ones gonna be a
- 19:43ballerina and ones gonna be a doctor and Oh my God.
- 19:45And then they find out they're having a child with a disability
- 19:48and it's Oh my God, I never planned on this.
- 19:50I never asked for this kid. Right, Jay, you know what I
- 19:54mean? Like, you can't kind of
- 19:55stipulate and this is what it is and you have to learn to manage
- 19:59it. People always say to me, I don't
- 20:01know how you do it, Sharon. Well, I had to do it because,
- 20:04well, I can't just sit in the corner all day feeling sorry for
- 20:07myself because it's not gonna change it.
- 20:09So I had to work out. Well, what am I gonna do?
- 20:12I'm gonna work best with my kids to understand them and support
- 20:15them, 'cause when Lee was diagnosed, he wasn't diagnosed
- 20:18till Lee was 10, 'cause he's 34 now and there were no supports
- 20:22back then. So you just had to wing it?
- 20:25Yep. So you'd learnt to do things
- 20:28differently and then it just becomes your norm.
- 20:31So I've got a question for you. You have to move into being ACEO
- 20:35now. So what have you learnt now from
- 20:38moving into a small startup, which really what it is, into an
- 20:42absolute foundation and the juggernaut for giving kids
- 20:45iPads? Yeah, that's, that was mind
- 20:48blowing, Yeah. Because we started off as an
- 20:50incorporation and then we took the next step to register
- 20:55nationally and follow all those steps to do that.
- 20:58And when you register nationally, you kind of go,
- 21:01yeah, OK. But then when we first put out
- 21:04the iPad applications, they were mainly just Victoria.
- 21:08So and then each year as we went, there were a couple of,
- 21:12you know, here and there. Now we're hitting every state
- 21:15every time. We we usually have our iPad
- 21:18applications open for about two to four weeks.
- 21:22The last round we had to shut after four hours because we had
- 21:26over 250 applications. And these all from everywhere,
- 21:31but anyone that could donate an iPad I'm, I think I've spoken to
- 21:35you this about this in the past that big businesses that buy
- 21:39iPads in bulk and update every year, they can donate iPads
- 21:44straight to you. So they can donate straight to
- 21:46us and then we send them off to specialist schools because there
- 21:50are some specialist schools that have iPads, but unless the
- 21:53school can afford them, then they don't have them.
- 21:56So that means the kids aren't getting inclusive educations.
- 21:59So there's 11 schools that we know of just in Queensland that
- 22:03have not one iPad for their child and because Keely went to
- 22:08her specialist school in Melton, they had iPads.
- 22:11So I just assumed that the the government supported it, you
- 22:14know what I mean? It's funded, it's a school.
- 22:16But we found out probably two years ago that no, it's not.
- 22:20And that's why we were donated 130 iPads from Fire Rescue
- 22:25Queensland and they're the ones that have gone out to the
- 22:29specialist school. So we gave 4040 second hand ones
- 22:34to Ballarat, plus 5 new ones. A mountain specialist school got
- 22:3820 and then we went over to Monash Specialist School and
- 22:42they got 20. So those kind of iPads go there
- 22:46and we have given a couple to family members who are desperate
- 22:50who can't wait for that next round round.
- 22:54So what we normally do is we we take the children of whoever we
- 23:00select due to how many iPads and then sometimes we make them
- 23:04reapply because we don't have any.
- 23:06And this year, last year we decided not to do that.
- 23:09We decided that because of the volume we would put them on a
- 23:11wait list. So there's currently 75 plus
- 23:16children on the wait list now Australia wide waiting for
- 23:19iPads. And part of the gala is why
- 23:22we're doing the gala. Last year we raised 41,800
- 23:26profit that brought 51 iPads and then we had a lot of sponsors
- 23:31that had sponsored a few as well.
- 23:33So and I think the beauty of Keely's cause is that we set it
- 23:36up to be a win win. So nobody loses.
- 23:39So if you sponsor an iPad, you get to meet your recipient and
- 23:43their family. So that's a very special thing.
- 23:46But getting back because I've gone off jargon as usual, as
- 23:48Sharon does, going from incorporation to national to a
- 23:53director to CEO, yeah, I'm absolutely honored.
- 23:58For me, that kind of journey, I would never have anticipated
- 24:03that I would even reach those sort of milestones for myself.
- 24:07But that makes me realize that I'm also capable.
- 24:10So the things I often doubted myself that, you know, I
- 24:13couldn't achieve, I'm doing all them.
- 24:15And some, I mean, some of the things I'm doing now, I go,
- 24:17well, we were you. Who's in your body, Sharon?
- 24:20Because the things that are about to come out are absolutely
- 24:23insane. And yeah, I don't know where
- 24:26they got that from, but the journey of, you know, always
- 24:30being the cheerleader for the kids, I think empowers you back
- 24:35because you're pushing them to be their better selves that you
- 24:38actually become your own. But iPads are expensive too so
- 24:42to be able to give a family that is in need an iPad is so
- 24:46rewarding because not every family can buy one No, that's
- 24:50right, has technology in the NDIS plan to buy 1.
- 24:54So to be able to hand over something that does change
- 24:57somebody's life dramatically, it's must be quite overwhelming
- 25:01with emotions. Absolutely.
- 25:03Especially when you see those people that are receiving them.
- 25:07The kids are so grateful, they're so excited.
- 25:09But the families, the families are in tears are indebted to
- 25:13you, right? Because if you hadn't have done
- 25:15it, nobody else would have. Like, we'll message them and or
- 25:18ring them and say you've been accepted.
- 25:20But there may be a wait list. You can kind of fish out the
- 25:23ones that are real and the ones that kind of think this is a,
- 25:26you know, let's just get an an iPad for free because they're
- 25:29offering them, they're in tears. You've changed their life.
- 25:34They're crying because you see them where others don't.
- 25:38And then you say you may be on a wait list.
- 25:39Well, we don't care how long we wait because we're getting
- 25:42something we would never have had before.
- 25:45Yes, we know it's going to change their lives completely.
- 25:48Yes, we could have done secondhand.
- 25:50We could have done something cheaper.
- 25:52We could have done the whole lot.
- 25:53But the iPad is the tool. The kids that need the prologue
- 25:57to go can go straight on there, yeah.
- 26:02It's only Apple that offers it, so yeah, you are limited to 1
- 26:05brand if you need to. That's right, that's right,
- 26:08that's right. So so we decided that Apple is
- 26:11what it would be. So it's, I think it's a more
- 26:16easier platform to understand for people with autism because
- 26:20it's easier to navigate as opposed to going on to something
- 26:24else. And that I struggle with
- 26:26technology. These kids thrive on it.
- 26:28I struggle with it. It does my heading.
- 26:31I don't know if it's the age and I'm I used to pick on my mum and
- 26:34say she was prehistoric but yeah, kids are calling me that
- 26:37now. So you've gone through all this
- 26:39stage, you've got to CEO. What made you guys think, hey,
- 26:43wouldn't mind putting on a gala? Well, screenshot behind that.
- 26:47So everyone had said, you know, you're going to have a gala and
- 26:50have a gala. No, no, no, no, we're not ready
- 26:52yet. And then last year we kind of
- 26:54went, should we have a gala? We're at a position now that
- 26:59Kelly's clause needs to be celebrated.
- 27:01So it was more about having a gala, celebrating what we've
- 27:06done, what we've achieved and everything like that, and
- 27:08putting Kelly at the forefront. So last year's 1, Kelly entered
- 27:12the room. She made her grandendron down
- 27:15the stairway. It was a place to gather and
- 27:18see, you know, what kind of money we would raise.
- 27:21There was 150 people in the room.
- 27:24We kept it at 1:50 and by God, what a night.
- 27:27So what a night. What can people expect if
- 27:31they're wanting to attend? So we make it, we make it like a
- 27:34celebration, right? A lot of people go, oh, I don't
- 27:36want to come to a gala. They are so boring and we didn't
- 27:40want to make it boring. So we do our formalities, they
- 27:44have a few laughs along the way, and then come 9:30, it's party
- 27:48and celebrate. So everything's out of the way.
- 27:51In between that, the band gets up the plays the music, and then
- 27:56once that 930 mark comes, it's party Hardy.
- 27:59So like last year, you know, you know, when you go to a concert
- 28:04and you do an encore for them to come out when they leave, they
- 28:07were doing that at the gala for the band.
- 28:10So we actually got the band back because everybody loved them.
- 28:14And so they're they're from Brisbane.
- 28:17So two of those guys have been on X Factor and Australian Idol.
- 28:20So 33 Red. They interact with the the
- 28:24crowd, the music was great for everyone.
- 28:26Everyone got involved. The money raising, the laughs,
- 28:31the chats, the dancing, I think was the highlight, right?
- 28:34And the most, the most important feedback I got from the women
- 28:38was my God, I feel like a Princess in here because it's
- 28:43because the Park Hyatt is fully marbled.
- 28:47It is stunning. So there is a few people are
- 28:50like, I don't want to dress up Sharon.
- 28:51And then they're like, Oh my God, I'm so glad I did.
- 28:53I feel like a Princess. I feel so elegant.
- 28:56So we were only going to have the one gala and then there was
- 29:00a call out. Well, are you going to have
- 29:02another? So we went.
- 29:03You're OK, we'll do 1. We'll do an encore performance.
- 29:06So this is our encore because the band's coming back.
- 29:09Obviously we have you, Sarah, doing our roving MC, which will
- 29:13be really exciting. I can't wait for that, she says.
- 29:16Oh my God. Live up to the hype.
- 29:19No, no, no. You're all gorgeous.
- 29:21Gotcha. No pressure.
- 29:22No pressure. We just want you to be you,
- 29:25right? We love you as you at your best.
- 29:28What is something so if anyone was thinking about buying any
- 29:32tickets or sponsoring or donating, what would you say to
- 29:36them and how would they get in contact with you?
- 29:38OK, so obviously Facebook and Instagram have the link on
- 29:43anything on the Keely's Cause website comes directly to me.
- 29:47The link is in the event page or you can e-mail me.
- 29:52You can buy a single ticket for 2:50 for those that want to come
- 29:56and they're struggling with, you know, maybe the cost of it.
- 30:00We can make a payment arrangement.
- 30:02We're happy to do that. We did it last year and it was
- 30:04successful. There's a table of 10 that is
- 30:07then discounted to 2200, or there's a featured table for
- 30:113000 that has your logo and everything and you get mentioned
- 30:15on the night and that's table of 10 and yadda, yadda, yadda.
- 30:20Every bit of money made from that gala goes to buy iPads.
- 30:25Like I said, we bought 51 last year from the 41,000, and we
- 30:31will have those kids that receive those iPads up on the
- 30:35screens so that everybody knows where their money went and who
- 30:39they supported. And I think that's the most
- 30:40important thing. We show where your money goes.
- 30:43Yeah, and that's why having the sponsorships and meeting your
- 30:47recipients is really important, because if the business or
- 30:50organization wants to extend that relationship with the
- 30:54family, they're able to do that. But the family is indebted to
- 30:58the sponsor and they will shout them from the rooftop.
- 31:01So that's why I say it's a win win because nobody loses.
- 31:04Your money isn't just going into a pool that just sits there and
- 31:08we do things we probably shouldn't be doing.
- 31:11It goes directly to iPads because without that support
- 31:14there's so many lives that need to be changed.
- 31:17So the cool thing is that you don't have to be in the
- 31:19disability and care sector to come to the gala or donate.
- 31:23No, I know that you have had sponsors that have come from
- 31:27building and need construction. Construction, we had office
- 31:30works, we have stage people W traffic.
- 31:34They're sponsors. They come from all walks of life
- 31:37because they like what we do. They like that they can see a
- 31:42child evolve, that they've given them something that contributes
- 31:46to their well-being. I think that's, that's, that's a
- 31:50good point. We're not just a charity that's
- 31:53just, you know, doing this or doing that.
- 31:55We're actually doing something that creates change, that
- 31:59changes lives, gives opportunity.
- 32:01Like we're setting them up to be effective members in their
- 32:05community to go on and get employment to fulfil those
- 32:08dreams that they want to be where they don't have to doubt
- 32:10themselves every day that they're never going to be
- 32:12somebody. And there's nothing worse than
- 32:16being segregated and feeling that you can't be anyone because
- 32:19society still keeps you down. So at least the iPad and through
- 32:24inclusive education, gives them hope.
- 32:26It gives them a drive that they can, you know, do better.
- 32:30So we gave one iPad to a girl over the other side of town.
- 32:35She's now doing animated. Yes, yeah, yes.
- 32:38Because that was her dream, and she could never attain it.
- 32:41But since having the iPad, she's gone leaps and bounds.
- 32:45So yeah. And then you know, we gave 1 to
- 32:48a little boy in Perth. He was 9 at the time.
- 32:51He has cerebral palsy, he has autism, he's non verbal.
- 32:57His mum wrote me an e-mail to say he was having 9 meltdowns a
- 33:02day, school wasn't understanding him, he was acting out, yada
- 33:07yada yada. We gave him an iPad and she
- 33:10emailed me 9 days later to tell me that she had a changed child.
- 33:16He was no longer having meltdowns.
- 33:18He was regulating. He had his individual learning
- 33:21plan. He was communicating.
- 33:22So we had an interview with the project one year just after
- 33:27Keeley won the Diana Award and he was one of the recipients
- 33:31that we chose to be on the Power.
- 33:33I mean on the Project. And when we saw that video,
- 33:36because we never saw the interview tool that came on TV,
- 33:39and when I was watching him on TV and he was just sitting there
- 33:43with his iPad, and this was not the child that I had met.
- 33:48So it was proof in the pudding. And as she said, it's changed
- 33:52his life for the better because it gave him purpose.
- 33:55The iPad helped him regulate his meltdowns, and he was able to
- 33:58learn. So the frustrations often from
- 34:02disabilities is their inability to understand or learn or be
- 34:06accepted. And This is why they have their
- 34:08meltdowns. It's not just because they're a
- 34:10naughty child, it's because they don't have the tools that they
- 34:14need to thrive. They're not like everybody else,
- 34:17they don't think the same. And the more that we adapt to
- 34:20the different ways people learn, the better off everyone will be.
- 34:23So, you know, if an iPad is all that they need to fulfil their
- 34:29life and feel safe in our world, then why wouldn't we give them
- 34:33one? Yeah, 100%.
- 34:34So what is like, what's the goal for the future for you guys?
- 34:39Is it what's coming on your iPad?
- 34:42Get and deliver them to people or.
- 34:45Yep. So we're hoping that my.
- 34:46Project. Well, there's a side project.
- 34:49So we are looking at, we want to be able to source funding that's
- 34:53ongoing, right. Donations are great and we
- 34:56appreciate them. But because we've got so many
- 34:58kids now that need them and are sitting on the wait list, in a
- 35:01small amount of time, we want to be able to get ongoing funding
- 35:05with corporates or whatever to be able to be pushing out at
- 35:09least 100 a year. If we can do a hundred a year,
- 35:12it's 100 lives changed. Is this 100 like from donated
- 35:17from like? Yep, sponsored whatever, and the
- 35:20donations will still go in the pool, but least we know that at
- 35:24least 100 children will be guaranteed assistance each year.
- 35:29Anything above that would be a high priority bonus.
- 35:34So where are you at the moment for numbers?
- 35:36Because we're in May. We're in. 7.5 months left till
- 35:41the. End We've got 75 kids on the
- 35:44wait list already. And if we open the rounds again
- 35:48in August, we may have to stop doing that this year for the
- 35:52very first time because we need to fulfill those 75 on the wait
- 35:57list. Otherwise we open it.
- 35:59If it does what it did last year, we're going to have
- 36:01another 250 kids on the wait list, right?
- 36:05So then you've got 320 kids on a wait list and we don't want them
- 36:10sitting there very long. No, that's fair, because I
- 36:13would. We'd rather them communicate and
- 36:16be. Increasingly bad.
- 36:18A lot of a lot of the kids are still on telehealth appointments
- 36:21because not much changed after COVID.
- 36:24A lot of people are still working from home.
- 36:26But these families can't do telehealth because they don't
- 36:29have the equipment. So not only is NDIS not giving
- 36:32the support, there's still that stigma around the telehealth.
- 36:38But not everybody has the capacity to have the technology.
- 36:42Do you? You're looking at families that
- 36:44most of the parents have given up work on a full time basis to
- 36:47look after their kids, right. But usually, correct, have a
- 36:50choice, Correct. Which we didn't hear.
- 36:52They're on carer payment. By the time they pay their
- 36:55rents, paying their bills, go round and drive their kids to
- 36:59all the, you know, places that they need to go to get their
- 37:02children's support or help. They're lucky if they're left
- 37:05with $10 a week, Right. Yeah, $10 doesn't sound much,
- 37:08but when you're putting that away each week to pay off
- 37:11something which they probably won't take $10.00 for, they
- 37:15can't afford it. They're lucky if the $10 is
- 37:17going to buy him bread and milk for the week.
- 37:19So that's why we put our focus on low socio economic families,
- 37:23right? Because then that way we can
- 37:25fizzle out who can afford an iPad and who can't, right?
- 37:29So with us, you've got to have a pension card in the mother, in
- 37:33the parents name with the child listed.
- 37:36We don't take the green card that is the child disability
- 37:41card because that means that parents, their parents or one of
- 37:47their parents is working full time.
- 37:50Yeah, so on the carer allowance, families can still earn up to
- 37:54200 and 2200 and 50,000 and still receive that payment.
- 37:59That's why we chose doing the, you know, the pension and the
- 38:03lows income and the family assessment assistance because
- 38:07then we know they're the families that are struggling the
- 38:09most and they're the ones we need to support. 100% because
- 38:13yeah it is it does it make you feel like you're reliving or re
- 38:18seeing sometimes your family when you're giving these iPads
- 38:21away? Yeah, Keely.
- 38:23Keely makes me. Keely growing up made me look at
- 38:26my own life through her eyes. Keely Keely's bringing up and
- 38:30her journey was a lot like mine. I never put the two together,
- 38:33but now I'm starting to. But when you see that in other
- 38:36families, because we struggled, we were a family and we still
- 38:39do. Like we're not rich and famous
- 38:42or anything like that. We've got a roof over our ahead.
- 38:45We're lucky to have a home that you know that the, what do you
- 38:49call it? The bills are paid, the food is
- 38:52we've got it. But there's a lot of families
- 38:55out there that don't. And with the rents and
- 38:57everything that's going up skyrocket, like, yeah, I don't
- 39:00know how. To do it like we'll be honest
- 39:01with you, because I'm looking at all what the funding and how
- 39:04people are getting cut and all that stuff.
- 39:06And remember the time will probably, oh God, some time ago
- 39:11when I was much more younger and I didn't have so many laughter
- 39:14lines, I used to do a well, I used to do a like work for a
- 39:20youth group and it was on a Friday night and was kids with
- 39:23there were adults with disabilities in like 18.
- 39:26They used to turn up and we'd run programs for three or four
- 39:29hours. Those parents were like, Oh my
- 39:31God, I'm I'm going to have dinner with my husband.
- 39:34I haven't had one dinner with my husband.
- 39:37I can't remember the last time I had dinner with my husband.
- 39:40Now we went to dinner and we didn't know what to talk about,
- 39:42but I've got to have dinner with my husband.
- 39:44So like there is these little things and especially with
- 39:48what's going on and how it's cut, it just feels like it's
- 39:50going to be more isolating for families.
- 39:53And having an iPad open and expands people's communication.
- 39:56Excellent. But cutting into this type of
- 39:58stuff is unfair. That's right.
- 40:00And I've always been in the community sector line.
- 40:03So before Keely started Keely's cause, I worked with women of
- 40:08domestic violence. So when my kids were younger, so
- 40:11Lee was four and two, and I left my husband back in those days,
- 40:15we were struggling at one point and I had to go to the food
- 40:19bank. And back then, you only went to
- 40:22the food bank if you lived on the street.
- 40:24Yeah. So I'm going up to the food bank
- 40:26door, crying my eyes out, apologising truthfully because
- 40:32I'm so sorry to use it. And.
- 40:34And one of the ladies from the church opened the door and she
- 40:37said, why are you crying? And I said to her, because I'm
- 40:40so sorry. Like there are other people that
- 40:43probably need this more than me, but I just need to get some food
- 40:46for my kids. And she said to me, just
- 40:49remember, this is only for now. It's not a life sentence.
- 40:53You'll get there in the end. Yeah.
- 40:56And you know what, She was exactly right.
- 40:58And that's exactly what I tell the parents and the people that
- 41:02I work with, because it's not a life sentence.
- 41:05And I look at it as it's a time where you kind of hit rock
- 41:08bottom that makes you change your life for the better.
- 41:11And I think if you don't hit that journey, you never really
- 41:15fulfill your life properly to understand what you want and
- 41:18where you're headed. So quite fulfilled now.
- 41:22Absolutely. I have a family that I adore,
- 41:25that adore me. I have 3 kids that are doing
- 41:28amazing things. I'm proud of each and one of one
- 41:30of them. And I have a tight knit family
- 41:33because I've always supported my family.
- 41:35I've always been there to be their cheerleader no matter
- 41:38what, through every loss, through every gain, and just
- 41:41kept them afloat as best as I could.
- 41:44That now has come back to I have three adult children who now
- 41:48have their own children that go, Oh my God, mum, we understand
- 41:54now everything that you did for us and we appreciate you beyond
- 41:58anything. And that is the most important
- 42:02and heartfelt reward I've had my whole entire life.
- 42:06I've had a lot of rewards along the way, but that one, when you
- 42:09know that you've made it a change and that your kids
- 42:12appreciate you, that's bigger than Ben Hur.
- 42:15So anyone listening, is there anything that I have missed when
- 42:19it came to the gala or the organization?
- 42:22No, the gala. You need to be at the gala if
- 42:24there's one place you're going to be for a great night out.
- 42:27You get to come hang out. More importantly, to let your
- 42:30hair down. What did you say?
- 42:31Sorry, my website. The website is WWW dot Keeley's
- 42:38cause K double Keeley's cause on Facebook, Keeley's cause on
- 42:42Instagram. Everything comes directly to me,
- 42:45every e-mail, every message. So if you need any support or
- 42:48some answers, yeah, just yell out as opposed to what's next.
- 42:53There's what's coming for more support for our families and
- 42:57people out there that are neurodivergent or have
- 43:00intellectual disabilities. I think while they talk about an
- 43:04inclusive world, it's, it's a long way off.
- 43:08Yeah, a long way off. So if we can still, you know,
- 43:11banter and and be there to support because we don't just
- 43:14supply the iPad, we sort of support the family behind the
- 43:18scenes as well. Every year we run a giving day.
- 43:21So we give brand new goods, brand new clothing to any
- 43:23disability family that can get where we are.
- 43:26Brand new Lego. We do that every year because a
- 43:29lot of families are lonely at Christmas.
- 43:31So we make sure that their their Christmas is going to be a
- 43:34fabulous 1. So we do a lot to remove of that
- 43:37loneliness bracket. Yeah, because it is a tough
- 43:40life. I mean I had to do mine from I
- 43:43had the two young kids right up until they were what was Keely
- 43:47was 12 whatever when she yeah, Lee was 12/13 when Keely come
- 43:53along and I just had the two kids by myself.
- 43:55So it was just me single mum doing it all.
- 43:58So yeah, so right. It's been a journey.
- 44:04And I would have to say to people that as tough as the road
- 44:08is, being a disability parent, it's the most rewarding one
- 44:12because when you overlook the meltdowns and the troubles that
- 44:16you've got and you have that one amount of love that that child
- 44:20gives to you is is priceless. You just got to work out a way
- 44:25to understand their world. I've been 100% lucky that my
- 44:29kids have taken me into their world and trusted me enough.
- 44:32And what a world it is. And what they see and what we
- 44:34see are completely two different things.
- 44:37But their worlds are absolutely ritual.
- 44:39So. Yeah, so just just hang in
- 44:43there. It's a roller coaster ride, but
- 44:45it's one that sometimes you think you want to throw your
- 44:47hands up in the air. But I wouldn't change mine for
- 44:50the world because my children have made me a better person by
- 44:53understanding their world and their journey.
- 44:55So I've learnt more than I ever anticipated.
- 44:58So thank you so much for you're. So very welcome.
- 45:02I cannot wait to be on the D4 on the 20th of June like my
- 45:06hopeful. Bringing lots of friends with
- 45:08you. It's.
- 45:09Hot. I hope you're booking lots of
- 45:11tables. Wait, wait in.
- 45:13No. Well, that's good.
- 45:14We are too and it's getting closer.
- 45:16It's only 5 weeks away for those.
- 45:18That don't have no tickets? Links to the tickets?
- 45:20Thank you. So much better be getting better
- 45:22be getting on the ticket line because last year we sold out
- 45:26and we did have a lot of people say, you know, like even 2 days
- 45:29before can we buy tickets? Can we buy tickets?
- 45:31And we went nowhere, sold out and they went, oh really?
- 45:34So there's a chance that it will do exactly the same because it
- 45:39was such a great night and we've got a lot of the same people
- 45:42coming back, but we've also got so many new people that heard
- 45:46what was a fun event last year that they missed out, that they
- 45:49were signing up for this year, so they didn't miss out.
- 45:51So this will be our last gala for a couple of years because we
- 45:55don't want to do 1 every year. This is just kind of an encore
- 45:58performance from last year's success.
- 46:01And then we'll take a bit of a break.
- 46:02And if we do another gala, then we do.
- 46:04And if not, we'll find something else.
- 46:06But yeah, all. Right.
- 46:07Thank you so much. No, thank you for having me.
- 46:10Great to talk to you, Sarah.