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The Return Of The ForAllNerdsShow · For All Nerds Show

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  You are now listening to For All Nerds Show, a podcast about geek and
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  pop culture from the perspective of people of color. For All Nerds is hosted
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  by DJ Benarmen and Taitana Keene Jones. For All Nerd Show as a member
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  of the Loudspeaker's Network, where we will always say rest in peace to our
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  founder, combat Jack. For All Nerds Show is powered by our listeners.
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  Everything we do, from our podcasts, live events, our website are all
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  com slash for All Nerds. Welcome to For All Nerds and What's up y'all,
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  and welcome back to this very extremely special episode. Oh the All Nerves
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  Show, the voice of urban geek. The podcast and distresses geek and pop
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  culture from the perspective of people of color. And as always, I mean
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  not for a while, but back in the Captain's chair, it's your boy,
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  DJ Been, I mean aka the Mobius Deep Ghost in the Sheltere Doctor
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  whose man is this master spin herself Trinidad Bang, keep that same inner JOm
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  when you see me, are Sinio Holo back here in the spaceship tonight and
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  as always, it's been a minute. Yeah, waiting to jump in,
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  waiting to jump in. It is I Tatiana King d Grand Duches of Tech,
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  also known as the Coldest Winter Soldier ever, Tatiana Kang, the Conqueror,
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  Scroll of City and Miles Tails the Prowler, Lord of Lightsabers and the
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  Team of the North. Mm hmmm mm hmm. Yeah, I don't really
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  know what to say. Yeah, we are back, as you can see
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  if you're watching us on twitch, dot tv, Slash for All Nerds or
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  YouTube, you know for all nerds whatever it is on there. Uh you
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  know, I can't remember, it's been a minute, but yeah, YouTube
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  for all Nerds. We there, you know, everywhere everywhere. Listen,
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  Ben, you remember we own the internet at this point, We've been on
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  there, and I just want to say that I'm so proud and happy that
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  see you back. I told Bent, I mean, I do not like
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  podcasting with anybody but him. I can't just bring myself to just be doing
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  it with somebody Rand. I'm like, nah, I need my bro.
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  I need my bro. So it's a hit different. So let me just
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  say congratulations on your return. I think it's something to celebrate. So I'm
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  happy you're back. Well, thank you very much, and thank you for
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  holding down everything when I took my sabbatical, because, you know, just
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  off the break, because I saw people asking, where's the show? You
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  know, all that type of thing, and you know, certain people didn't
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  know because I guess they might not follow me on socials specifically. But my
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  father, William Bird Johnson, passed away from this realm, from this world
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  on July thirty first of this year, and so ever since then, I
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  obviously needed some time to just get myself together and to grieve properly and to
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  mourn him and to celebrate his life the way I feel like it should have
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  been and should be to this day and you know, forever. So that's
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  what I've been doing, you know, And it was definitely tough on me.
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  You know, my mom passed some years back, and I mean not
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  that long ago, to be honest, and so you know, both of
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  them passing has been a little hard on me, and so I really needed
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  some time off. I took time off from work. I really wasn't doing
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  much of anything, playing a lot of video games and working on music mainly,
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  and reading comic books and stuff. Like that. So that's all I've
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  pretty much been doing. And then I started back, you know, DJing
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  weddings and you know, my basic my day job. I got back to
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  that, and then I started back with some therapy recently and shout out to
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  my therapist and that's been helping a lot. And then I was like,
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  you know, it's about time to do the show because you know this week
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  is New York Comic Con, and you know I'll definitely be there because you
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  know, no matter what is going on in life, as Christmas man,
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  Yeah, that's my Christmas, my Halloween, all rolled under one. So
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  I'm so hyped. I mean, we're recording right now on Wednesday night and
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  Comic Con starts in the morning, and I know the hall's already filled up
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  and you already in there. Yeah. I was already in there. Everything's
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  there. Everything's crazy. The com before the storm, did you see anything
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  like the because I'll tell you that the one year that just always blows me.
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  I mean that blows me. It's like one of my favorite moments is
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  when they had the Jurassic Park entrance. Okay, because when you walked into
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  theme music played and this mist hit you in the face and so yeah,
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  the miss and the theme music between the mist and the theme forty theater effects.
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  I never realized how much I loved the or loved the Jurassic Part theme
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  until that year because it's John Williams, you know, so you had another
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  of his themes, but I never realized how good that one was. And
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  when you walk in and that missed hit, I was like, yo,
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  I used to walk through that like that whole weekend. I would just walk
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  through that joint every time I was throwing it at all to make sure I
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  walked through that entrance. So yeah, man, they were. It was
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  so funny. Most of the stuff was already up, like as you can
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  imagine, they were probably doing some last minich and touches because like when I
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  went to go get my badge, like there was like this when those tractor
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  type things that's like hanging stuff up and they was dropping boxes and shit,
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  and I'm like, damn, y'all fucking up already. But like I'm sure
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  there'll be something like that somewhere maybe, but but you know, the typical
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  giant banners were everywhere the you know, this is the main shaite, this
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  is that, And I would just say that it's cool to kind of be
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  back in those halls and get that the preliminary energy and that feeling back again.
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  Like I like, call me a weirdough, right, I like when
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  places that are supposed to be super packed are actually very empty. Yeah,
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  because I I or empty enough, you know, relatively speaking. It's like
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  I actually thought some of the pandemic was a blessing because I liked being in
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  New York in a place that should never be empty, completely empty, but
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  it was. It was pretty cool, like to to be able to be
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  un you know, unfeathered, no one's, no one's in your way,
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  no one, no bio and all this other stuff, and it's just like
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  you get to see it and it's most pristine, right, and it's most
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  intended. So it's really cool to see Comic Con in that way. But
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  man, everything is up ready to go. Hopefully they picked them in boxes
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  they dropped, and I'm you know, I'm excited. I'm excited to see
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  everybody. Oh I did see Joe Illich. Shout out to Joe Ilache.
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  I did see him there too. Shout out to Joe. I can't wait
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  to see him tomorrow. I can't wait to see so many people. If
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  you're at Comic Con, look out for us. You know, we will
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  be there all four days pretty much most of all four days, so we'll
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  be out there, uh with some exclusives. We got some stickers as always.
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  We have a panel on what will be part of a panel on Sunday
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  Sunday, Sunday Sunday, So at that panel we'll definitely have some T shirts
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  and stuff as well to give away to people. So come through to that,
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  you know, get yourself something, some good stuff. Yeah. Yeah,
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  we'll be there all four days. You'll be seeing us. You know,
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  we rocking these shirts you know that you see on me right now,
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  Ty Town of wearing one that you can you know, get on for all
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  nerds dot com. Thanks, thank you so much, even during this break,
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  to everyone who has been supporting us, supporting a small black owned independent
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  business at for on Theirds dot com. We've been doing these shirts ourselves now,
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  printing them off, coming up with these designs, shipping them out,
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  all this different stuff. It's a work in progress, so thank you.
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  Appreciate the grace for those who are getting grace. Yes, something we've talked
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  about across media about how black owned brands are treated, especially brand new black
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  owned briends who are actually putting into work and doing their best to be great.
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  Sometimes things also happen. So please give us some grace. Reach out
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  to us, because all we want to do is make sure you're happy,
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  and if we want to make sure everything, if anything's going on, that
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  it gets resolved. So if you have a problem, reach out, email
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  us, hit us up. We're going to make it right. But you
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  know, give us some grace. Yes. And speaking of grace, like
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  we said, we've been taking a break, you know, getting our own
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  thoughts and order and everything. Thing. And another thing. If you follow
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  me on social media, especially on Twitter, you might have seen I had
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  some tweets where I was discussing some of the reasons why I was in in
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  a hurry to get back the podcasting. And like we said, this is
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  the tenth anniversary of four on NERD, so we've been doing this a minute
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  and I've been doing podcasting even longer than that. Like I saw someone had
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  a tweet today where they're talking about when you've been podcasting since since it was
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  like you know, in house journalistic editors and all this to more of a
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  TV type of world where they you know, outsourced their editing and all these
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  things. And you have TV showrunners coming into podcasting and tell people to do
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  and I'm just like, I've been in podcasting when motherfucking know what a podcast
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  was. Like you talking about when podcasts and had internal editors. I'm talking
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  about podcasts and when everything was you back in my day? Yeah, And
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  I mean, and that's not my thing like back in my day. And
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  I think it's just I've been in this a long time. And like,
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  as far as why I even sweach to fall nerds from doing hip hop type
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  podcasting was I hated how I saw when we and you even see it today
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  with the Joe Budden and Drake stuff. When someone has a criticism of someone,
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  it turns into beef, you know. And so I was like,
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  well, if I talk about somebody Comma book, they you know, they
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  might be mad, but what they gonna do. I slapped these Comba book
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  creators around. You know, ain't the one in proproaching me in the street
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  fans trying to draw you into a panel and kill you off. That's the
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  only dude. Kry Randolph, you know me and him, might you know
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  he might got hands for him, because I'm not in that damn book you
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  are. He might he might got hands for me, you know. So
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  other than that, I slap around, you know, but I've seen Joe
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  Illige working out my man. You not Astro, Isaac not Ato, No,
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  oh god, God, his name is staving me. So I'm just
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  trying to keep it moving. But yeah, I slapped these comic book creators
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  around. So I've switched to for All Nerd so I could say whatever I
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  wanted to say and not worry about that. But in the time that we've
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  been doing it, what I've seen, and what I'm sure you've all seen,
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  is how the ecosystem around us has changed and grown. And it's like,
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  now there's all these different people of color representing in the system, when
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  before it was just us and a couple of other people. Shout out people
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  like Rodhamus Prime who've been around longer than us even and you know the black
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  nerd, you know, the black girl nerd who you know had a different
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  name back then, you know. So it's like there's a couple of people,
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  but it wasn't a lot when we started, and so now it's a
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  lot of people. But beyond that, just the whole ecosystem of YouTube,
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  of social media, of everything has turned into this thing one where it's very
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  negative. Negativity gets you more clicks. You know, neat you dog something,
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  people will immediately come to you. You know, you hate on something,
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  people will come to you. And we have never been like that.
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  People call me a hater, but for the most part that you see,
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  we are pretty positive on most things. Are We don't sit around like you
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  can look at our headlines, et cetera. We don't have those clip baited
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  ass headline but we're like this show sucks. You know, sometimes we have
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  we have questionable headlines, but never we have questionable that make you want to
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  ask a question. Yeah, never, But we're never just and we don't
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  just outrighte doll things. I've never been that way. You've never been that
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  way, you know. Like I said once five years ago, I was
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  working in like even to the day's to work in Hollywood in some capacity where
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  I learned, you know, it's a lot of cooks making these pies,
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  and sometimes the people who you want to say suck, like the writers and
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  directors made a good ass pie and then that pie got ruined by someone else
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  along the way. Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of factors that you
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  don't know about. I mean, the thing is, at the end of
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  the day, we're media professionals. We've been at this forsolon that we can
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  very clearly call ourselves that, and I believe that no imposter system here.
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  I'm I'm a media professional and we learn Thank you sir, We've learned to
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  and thank you to you too, right, We've learned to critique right and
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  back up our thoughts with details and supporting information. And this is that that
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  so so just furtheres to what be I mean is saying about not being straight
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  haired, like, oh, this is ass right now, we might use
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  that, I might use that as an adjective like all this shit was asked,
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  but then explain what I mean by that, right, Like I won't
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  just say this ass and then go skip down the street, right, Like
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  I try to explain myself and then even even me, I've evolved over time,
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  like temper that way, like from what that I mean is saying him
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  being in a space he's taught me like hey, by the way, you
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  know even though you're feeling that way, even though and it's like it's just
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  a way to balance and communicate it. Right, you can tell the truth
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  because at the end of the day, we're going to tell the truth without
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  like with also still being considerate of the fact that there are a lot of
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  moving parts, a lot of different people who do different things that create a
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  product, a show, a book, whatever, Right, Like, there's
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  a lot that goes into it. So it's like we're still being mindful,
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  still trying to be respectful of the people who are involved. But at the
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  same time, if something ain't right, we're gonna I then I mean,
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  we're gonna say something. And that being said, that's the thing, like
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  I said, there's this negative you know, ecosystem going on that you have
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  to fight against. And then my other issue that I also brought up is
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  the fact that we are basically at some point it's like when we do a
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  show like Views from the six one six, where we cover all a Marvel
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  show in depth, we are being a huge commercial for Marvel and for Disney.
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  We're not getting paid by the one. Everyone thinks that we are not
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  getting paid y'all nothing, We're not getting paid like we're covering because we thought
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  we fucked we were fucking with it that we love it, that like the
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  overall process, that's something that we're interested in. And you know, this
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  is something that interests us in general fandom. Right now, we cover but
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  we don't get much. Right, this is the very people that were potentially
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  were the people, but the corporation rather that we're propping up. We're not
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  getting too many kickbacks from that, right, and no no kid backs,
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  no monetary kid back worse times. And that's because, like I say,
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  the ecosystem has grown and there's always somebody else that these people can give access
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  to that this corporation give access to. And because of that, it becomes
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  this thing where it becomes a crab and the barrel thing where we are start
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  fighting over it. And I'm looking at in the camera and I say this,
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  it discussed me. It straight have discussed me. How a lot of
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  people in this world, I mean, in this sphere act and we as
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  you can see, like by All Star shows, we are always the ones
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  reaching out to everyone. We've brought all kind of different people with their own
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  platform onto our platform to express their views, to join in this camaraderie,
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  to show that you know, the unity and the strength that can happen,
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  and nine times out of ten, I do not feel that same love come
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  back, and it is what it is. Rest in peace of my brother
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  combat Jack. He used to tell me it doesn't matter, you know.
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  He's like, you know how many people I've put on who never said anything
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  to me? It doesn't matter. I still put more people on, and
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  that's what it is. And we do the same thing. But by that
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  token, I am not going to sit here and fight for access so I
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  can be a commercial to these scenes now I will. You know, today
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  we're gonna distress Loki and in the future we might get back to doing you
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  know views where it's a more centered show. But at the same time,
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  we're just you know, like, okay, we gotta chick out our news.
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  No, we're not going to kill ourselves before could we used to kill
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  ourselves with all this in depth? And somehow I'll just be honest, I
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  don't feel like these shows deserve that, like, you know, a lot.
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  Wow. Based on what I read today in the Hollywood Reporter about how
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  Marvel was doing things basically throwing one hundred and sixty five million dollar buckets of
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  money at the problem and hoping something works out. Instead of just you know,
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  paying the rights and doing shit the right way. I mean, yeah,
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  I mean speaking of news to talk about you know, since we Yeah,
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  that's pretty much that, you know, like that is the thing there
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  is. There's a lot of things that we at the combat in order to
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  put this show out, in order to bring you what we bring, and
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  sometimes I have to think about is it worth it or not? You know,
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  and especially recently, like when my father passed, it made me put
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  everything into perspective. And it was a lot of like whammies in a row
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  where a lot of people are like nah, nah nah, and I was
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  like, hold on, fam you know the fuck I am. And I
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  really had to say that to certain people. And I'm gonna say this right
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  now. I'll shout out to the people at Apple because me and them got
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  into it, you know, straight up, and then we cleared it up
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  and we all good. And I want to give them a second right now
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  because they sent me the first. I can't even talk about much of it
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  because they're you know, it's really coming out soon. Yeah, but it's
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  just more like you know, I think the social embargoes up, but no
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  reviews, so I won't even say much about it, But Monarch Legacy of
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  Monsters. It's the news show on Apple from the God's Zilla universe, and
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  it comes right off the Godzilla films. It features shots and scenes from the
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  Godzilla films. I mean it play much takes place after Godzilla and Godzilla versus
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  Ten Kong. I think it's pretty much up the time, and I've seen
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  four or five episodes. There's like eight episodes so far. I think I'm
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  seeing four of them. I'm loving it all right, you know, let
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  me just say this series though, like, no, that's just serious series.
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  But like I feel like everything is like six episodes, eight episodes.
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  I don't need more than that. You don't need it's done well then you
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  probably don't know you want you need more. And we'll talk about Loki in
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  a second. And this no, do you barely need that. That is
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  the problem, and people there a few things I will talk about with that,
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  But Monarch Legacy of Monster is really dope. Once it drops. I
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  think they're doing a premiere at New York Comic Con for the first episode.
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  If you got Apple TV, Apple TV got a million different fire ass shows
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  that no one will and because you need to pay it's just another dollars to
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  doughnuts they got. You know, they're killing everyone else. It's just they
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  don't have the right marketing behind it. And I think this one might be
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  one of them that will help them because this is really geek oriented and I
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  you know, like and it's a brand where I don't think they've had that,
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  Like they had C which was a really dope show, but it was
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  like an unknown But it's an unknown brand, you know, it's a new
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  I P. While this is a you know, this grows. So I
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  think this is gonna draw men. Kurt Kurt Russell and his son played the
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  same character in it. Yes, it's dope. That's really dope. I
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  really love how they're doing that. You know. I love Kurt Russell's son
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  and I love Kurt. So look Kurt russell son, you know John walking
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  out, baby, walk it out, get out. He's such a man,
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  He's the man. Yeah. I can't wait for all with that Thunderbolts,
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  Like, who are you? I'm gonna touch a dormalogic. Yeah,
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  man, you know he gonna add up in Thunderbolts. Oh my god,
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  he's gonna be adding up. But yeah, on that, speaking of Thunderballs
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  and everything else, Marvel and what we were just talking about, you know,
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  with shows having long run legs. First, I want to give a
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  big bid shout out to my brother Mellow Brown. Check out Bear Mellow is
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  his name on YouTube. Make sure you follow his channel, hit that subscribe
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  button, all that good stuff. He has his first in a series,
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  a breakdown of pilot episodes, because you know, Bear Mellow Mellow Brown is
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  you know, a quite successful w GA rider and soon to be showrunner,
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  so you know, my man's doing his big things out there, and so
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  to help other people get into the business, he's doing a series of YouTube
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  videos where he'll be breaking down anime pilots and showing how they're use such ill
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  techniques that a lot of Western pilots don't use and show how those can be
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  applied to Western pilots so that way, you know, you can write a
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  better pilot. His first one is on this show Blue Period, which is
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  one of the few animes that I've watched, and Blue Period's pilot is like
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  one of those fuck you you know pilots, but it's just like fuck you
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  for writing this dope shit. You know, how could you write this incredible
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  and direct. Everything about Blue Periods pilot, it's just perfection, and Mellow
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  breaks down widse perfection and talking about time. Blue period is thirty minutes long,
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  you know what I mean, And it's doesn't need time, all right,
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  so check that out. And then I'm deep on going about time,
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  right because make sure you follow Bear Mellow on YouTube and watch that. And
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  then getting to time, we get into Loki, right, which season two
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  just drop. Episode one is out. By the time you see this or
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  hear this, episode two will probably be out. I personally enjoyed the first
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  episode, right. I thoroughly enjoyed the first episode. There's all the characters
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  I love Loki. Moby is h B fifty two, B fifty seven.
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  You know he's yelling out shit be fifty seven, right, she's fifty seven
• 22:12
  B fifty two is the group I know? Yeah, all you know all
• 22:17
  the whole trappings the TVA were back in at all that, right. I
• 22:21
  also felt like the first episode was a big waste B fifteen sorry all right?
• 22:26
  They waste the time, yes, and I'll explain why. A big
• 22:33
  waste of time, right, and and really a and you see there was
• 22:37
  a character I didn't mention right Now criminally negligent in its use of Sylvie Okay,
• 22:45
  who's the heart and the soul of the first season and shows up in
• 22:48
  a basically an after credit scene when we don't get to see any of her
• 22:52
  reaction to all the events that are driving this episode to the big event.
• 22:56
  We don't get to see her reaction or her emotion praps. We'll get to
• 23:00
  see it in episode two, but it doesn't mean it doesn't does not bode
• 23:03
  well for time right once again, because you have a whole forty five minutes
• 23:11
  of time that you could have devoted because we only have so many episodes.
• 23:15
  Again, right, we only have so many episodes, So it's all right,
• 23:19
  So what you did devote to in this episode? Right? Loki starts
• 23:23
  off being in fear of King and knowing that Kane is trumming. Right.
• 23:27
  Loki ends the episode being in fear of King and knowing that kanets prumming and
• 23:33
  looking he wants to find Sylvie. He starts episode wanting to find Sylvie,
• 23:37
  ends this episode wanting to find Sylvie. B fifteen starts the episode knowing that
• 23:41
  the timeline is split and that that's how it should be, and she needs
• 23:45
  to find Sylvie. Ends the episode knowing the timeline is split, needs to
• 23:51
  find Sylvie. Mobius starts the episode same way, knows the timeline Split needs
• 23:55
  to find Silvie, needs to find Loki. Ends episode knows the timeline of
• 23:56
  Split needs to find Sylvie. He needs to find Loki found then, okay
• 24:02
  the mission of commons? Wow, is that your point? Let me let
• 24:07
  me keep going. I'm not done yet, right, Okay, We're introduced
• 24:11
  to a new character who's you know, basically provides a mcgufferin for this episode
• 24:15
  where they have to do a bunch of things a problem that was only introduced
• 24:21
  in this episode fixing low key s time jumping thing and solved in this episode.
• 24:26
  It wasn't carried over from the last season. That why didn't that happen
• 24:29
  to Sylvie? That's another question that probably won't be answered. And that is
• 24:33
  my biggest thing about this episode, and I'll finish with that, is that
• 24:36
  none of this will matter. They're not going to go back to that mcguffin.
• 24:40
  It's a pointless mcguffin. You know, why would you go back to
• 24:42
  that? Because we already know the timeline is split and it and the mcguffin
• 24:48
  didn't fix the timeline being split. The timeline was still being split, and
• 24:51
  tv A just needed to put the shields down so he can power up the
• 24:53
  thing to make sure that the thing can handle the timeline being split. But
• 24:56
  the timeline will still be split. Yeah, the lo which will never be
• 25:00
  referenced again because why would it need to be. And that was my problem
• 25:04
  with this episode. I felt like no one moved and the most important character,
• 25:10
  Sylvie, isn't even featured. So it doesn't bode well when you only
• 25:15
  have so many episodes to waste so much time on a mcguffin, that won't
• 25:19
  matter that and then you don't focus anything on the main character. And don't
• 25:26
  get me wrong, Okay, it's fun. You know, it's witty,
• 25:33
  it's got all the things you missed. See dude, jet Stee, Oh,
• 25:36
  Moby is being you know, it's fucking on oncen't eating up scenery and
• 25:40
  you know, I mean my man is saying body and he's you know,
• 25:42
  and he's fearing for his life and he's like he's selling came better than man
• 25:48
  or anything else. Absolutely, absolutely, but that. But we knew all
• 25:52
  this and he was already there and I don't need you to have a whole
• 25:56
  season's progression, but I need this see where you're going in this episode.
• 26:00
  I saw nothing because no one made a move that they weren't already making.
• 26:08
  No new problems were introduced, no new you know, or they weren't solved
• 26:12
  in this episode. Well, according to you, nothing A lot of stuff
• 26:18
  didn't get addressed or solved. I mean you said people didn't move, so
• 26:22
  there were a lot of things not solved. No besides, but those things
• 26:26
  all but that's what I'm saying. All that was from last season. All
• 26:29
  those characters were already on that path. Yeah, nothing new was introduced to
• 26:33
  their paths to made them change their point to like to reassess things, to
• 26:37
  think about things differently, to be like, maybe I shouldn't go on this
• 26:41
  path. Everyone's passes though the exact same that they were on last season.
• 26:45
  And then we had a mcguffin episode where they had to solve a problem that
• 26:48
  won't matter next week, right, and that So I was gonna say,
• 26:52
  basically, your I mean, your feedback is very sound and it's logical,
• 26:56
  and when you're talking about story, future concept and you know the reason like
• 27:04
  that, what you're saying makes perfect sense when you're looking at it from a
• 27:08
  pure entertainment standpoint. I think it hit the mark, like, yes,
• 27:11
  I did enjoy I greatly enjoyed that. Greatly enjoyed it. Now that was
• 27:15
  separate from everything you said. Then once I apply all that, I'm like,
• 27:19
  yeah, well, you know, we don't have much time for y'all
• 27:22
  to be doing nothing. You only have six episodes, and this is earned
• 27:30
  episode one. Like critis saw the first four. Oh god, oh god,
• 27:36
  this moon all over again. Oh my god, I was, you
• 27:40
  know, And that's where I go back to, like, yeah, certain
• 27:42
  certain series, noah, don't have to be. It's also like when you
• 27:47
  when it's like you could use more time. I guess I feel like this
• 27:49
  is one of the ones that maybe needs it, but no, because they're
• 27:52
  wasting it. They would waste no matter what. They don't waste no,
• 27:56
  because that's the thing. It's like when you waste. If you have more,
• 28:00
  gonna waste more because if you have less, you're gonna use less because
• 28:03
  you know, I got less, and this is all like, but they
• 28:06
  got less and they still wasted or what was? Because that's what that's what
• 28:08
  it ain't got shipped to say, and that's my worry. And this is
• 28:11
  like, y'all because like we we did not see those first four episodes that
• 28:15
  some criticis. But like when I saw the first four or Moonnight and I
• 28:19
  knew there was only six, it was the same thing. I was like,
• 28:22
  ain't no way, you know, I saw the first four so much,
• 28:26
  and I was, yeah, me and time Town were just like we
• 28:29
  didn't want to ruin it for y'all and everything. But I was like,
• 28:30
  yo, there's no way. Knowing story structure and stuff, I was like,
• 28:33
  there's no way. Or if they do, it's a miracle, you
• 28:37
  know, if they pull this together. That makes sense from your review a
• 28:41
  critical standpoint, because it's like if you're able to show people weeks months ahead
• 28:47
  of times seventy eight percent of the series and it's not enough to give away
• 28:55
  or like give you real full contents of what's going on, I don't know
• 28:57
  that's a good or bad thing. No, no, no, my thing.
• 29:00
  When Moonlight was more so that I knew that seventy eight percent, there
• 29:03
  was no way in that twenty two percent they could wrap up that seventy eight
• 29:07
  percent. Logically, I knew it was going to make I knew it would
• 29:11
  fall flat on his face. And you know, people might disagree with me,
• 29:14
  but I felt like Moonlight fell flat on its face at the end.
• 29:17
  I feel like this. I felt like the series does not make sense when
• 29:21
  you go back and look at it. A lot of things don't hold up
• 29:23
  to a rewatch, and the director claims they do, but they don't.
• 29:29
  And that was like my issue because it's a show that should be that that's
• 29:33
  what they wanted, but they fell flat on their face. And sadly,
• 29:37
  God damn it. Shout off to Kate heron you know our People's she is
• 29:41
  not sure running this season and she's not directing. Well. My question to
• 29:47
  my next comment actually was going to be, could we compare this first episode
• 29:52
  to last season's first episode, and in terms of what you're saying about introduction
• 29:56
  of no because last season they had to do so much more work they did,
• 30:03
  I'm the same. I'm just saying that first episode the first episode of
• 30:07
  each season, regardless of what work has to be done, Like just from
• 30:11
  an introductory perspective, that's from a story structured perspective. If you compare the
• 30:15
  two, where would you where would you feel like we are. Well,
• 30:18
  that's what I think. I think every start of your season should be like
• 30:22
  a pilot episode. Now, it's not gonna be as good as your pilot,
• 30:26
  because pilots are, you know, incredibly hard and incredibly difficult, and
• 30:29
  you've already established the world all that. The season one pilot episode was pretty
• 30:33
  damn good. It's incredibly good, you know, because it had a lot
• 30:37
  of work to do. It had all the TV to introduce all these new
• 30:41
  characters. But you can argue that season two also has a lot of work
• 30:45
  to do. Sure, there's stuff that's been established and you're just continuing or
• 30:48
  hopefully continuing that through line. But my thing is you are now having to
• 30:52
  grab all those same people from almost two years ago back into the fold.
• 30:56
  As number one number two, you still have to grab new people. You're
• 31:00
  combating against very bad negative reviews of the last two big time quote unquote Disney
• 31:07
  plus shows, Marvel shows like if we Be if We keep it a buck
• 31:11
  right now, Like they're not at the highest level right now, no at
• 31:15
  all, understand And that's why. So this did have a lot of work
• 31:19
  to do, and I don't know accomplished that to what you're saying, but
• 31:22
  it was entertaining. It was entertaining, but it was one of the things.
• 31:26
  One thing it doesn't have to do is establish the world, because this
• 31:30
  thing doesn't. If you did not watch season one, you're completely lost in
• 31:33
  the story, you know. So you are already watched that quick. You
• 31:37
  know it ain't gonna do it. You know you're gonna watch season one,
• 31:41
  you know. And that's and they know that because they have it's all right
• 31:45
  there. Not only you're gonna watch season one if you have to, you're
• 31:48
  gonna watch pretty much all leading up to it, you know, the MCU.
• 31:51
  So because it's all right there, and you can always do it.
• 31:53
  If you're watching this on Disney Plus, then you can watch it, so
• 31:56
  they don't have to do that work. So and that was my I felt
• 32:00
  like there wasn't much work done in this episode other than being entertaining, other
• 32:04
  than like quips and that Marvel shit that gets away with not having a story.
• 32:10
  I have a question though, that what you're saying made me start thinking,
• 32:14
  like, are we at that nexus point? To use a Marvel term,
• 32:16
  are we at the nexus point where you've if you have no insight into
• 32:22
  the Marvel universe that you can't jump in, Like, are we at that
• 32:29
  point where it's just like, I mean, and I'm not talking, I
• 32:30
  mean, obviously they're they're gonna bring in they're bringing new cavacters, they're bringing
• 32:34
  new actors to replay those caacters. But it's like, if you did not
• 32:37
  watch the first twelve fifteen years of the MCU and you start now, can
• 32:44
  can it be done? Is it possible? Are you going to be lost?
• 32:46
  Can you? And I might even talking about catching up. I'm not
• 32:47
  talking about going back. I'm starting now as someone who doesn't know shit.
• 32:52
  Am I gonna be all right? Well, let's say you started on Doctor
• 32:55
  Strange in the Multiverse of Madness, which is a film that really says,
• 33:00
  fun what happened in one division? Well, actually it doesn't in one way
• 33:04
  because Wanda is a villain at the end of one division, and the film
• 33:07
  says she's a villain. But whatever. That's a really strange film to start
• 33:12
  on. Okay, but I understanding hard I wouldn't. Okay, but I'm
• 33:15
  saying right now, you know you're in the think of shit, so you're
• 33:17
  gonna have to start off for craziness. So if you start on that,
• 33:21
  it explains Wanda's the villain. This dude's trying to fix the multiverse boom.
• 33:25
  And you can watch that movie and enjoy it. Mark, That's the thing.
• 33:28
  That's what Marvel is exceptionally good at. You can watch any of these
• 33:31
  things by themselves and get for the most part, at least would you understand
• 33:38
  you don't need to understand all that. That's the thing. Like you can
• 33:43
  watch Spider Man No Way Home having never seen any of the other Spider Man
• 33:47
  if you like, and if you've seen the Spider Man movies before that,
• 33:52
  you would have all those nostalgia hits and all that. And if you've never
• 33:54
  seen Tom Holland it wouldn't matter. But if you didn't, and that's my
• 33:59
  question, like if you did, like, are we at is Marvel?
• 34:01
  I mean, it's that's just mean. It's like all these movies, the
• 34:07
  better ones especially, can be enjoyed. Like people saw A Man that was
• 34:09
  their first Marvel movie, that third and Man and people, you know,
• 34:13
  people who enjoyed and enjoyed it. People who didn't didn't. You know,
• 34:16
  I thought it was cool. Yeah I didn't think it was like, you
• 34:20
  know, I'm not in a rush to watch it again, you know,
• 34:22
  but I know people who enjoyed it, you know what I mean. So
• 34:27
  it's like it's like this the first episode of Lukie I thought was like enjoyable
• 34:31
  but also a bid waste to lesson. But I think if you jumped in
• 34:35
  right now, I mean, you probably need to watch Loki season one,
• 34:37
  but I don't think you need to watch much more than that to come.
• 34:42
  Yeah, and you know, because Loki is its own series, Like it
• 34:45
  starts off and and explains everything that went on before that. Yeah, that's
• 34:47
  true. And then throughout the series, especially through season one, it explains
• 34:51
  the history of Loki. You know, he gets to watch the film of
• 34:53
  his life. You get caught up on a lot of you know, his
• 34:57
  history through the MCU through you know, pretty good storytelling, even though that
• 35:01
  film shit was like you know, that wasn't easy. Like let's have them
• 35:05
  watch your you know, clip show so you know, catch everyone up.
• 35:07
  Yeah. Yeah, well, I mean I'm glad we're having this conversation.
• 35:12
  Be I mean when when when I said, oh, I enjoyed it,
• 35:15
  and he was just like not like he had a complete opposite reaction For me,
• 35:17
  I was just like whoa, what why? But then like you said
• 35:22
  again, but you're also getting in the very also, but that's a way
• 35:25
  that a lot of that certain people may not be looking at it. It
• 35:29
  wasn't even like that though with this. When I watched the episode, I
• 35:30
  was like, that was great, you know, very enjoyed, but funny.
• 35:32
  Oh man. I went to sleep and I woke up the morning and
• 35:35
  I was like, yo, you thought about it. I was think,
• 35:37
  oh, did anything happen in that joint? Like consequent I mean Loki got
• 35:40
  pulled out of being time sleeping? Yeah, but that was creating in that
• 35:44
  joint, ye, And Sylvie didn't need to get that, but she went
• 35:47
  through the same ship allegedly like and I got to see keithway Khan, so
• 35:52
  hey did dad from everything we were all want and you know, a short
• 35:55
  round from Minana Dnes But and Casey's back, know, so you're like,
• 36:00
  oh Casey, you know, and it's but that's what I mean. I
• 36:06
  don't give it. Damn. He's funny. But you know I had enough
• 36:08
  Casey, Like I didn't need to see him in this episode. Who did
• 36:12
  you miss? Though? Like I've Sylvie, Sylvie, And that's the other
• 36:16
  part because I also because someone's gonna say that, they're gonna say, oh,
• 36:19
  Ben, you just wanted to see Sylvie. Is it more than that
• 36:22
  I mean, or is it just really that's the base one of the base
• 36:24
  reasons you will. I mean, she's to me, she is the heart.
• 36:28
  Like whether or not her name is the show is not named Sylvie,
• 36:30
  but she's about her. She's low, she's as Sylvie, but she's lokey.
• 36:36
  Yeah, and so she's the heart and you know, and it's their
• 36:38
  relationship and I get that they're separated right now, and she's doing through her
• 36:43
  own thing and like maybe season I mean, episode two, you know,
• 36:46
  will be all Sylvie and I'll be shutting up next week. But yeah,
• 36:53
  but but you know, right now, I don't know. And like I
• 36:59
  say, if there's only six, damn, that was like basically two is
• 37:02
  going to start the strow because one was like I say, no one moved,
• 37:07
  No one moved. Everyone is at the same point they were. You
• 37:10
  know, I'm not gonna say it all again, but besides, besides Sylvie,
• 37:14
  besides Sylvie, because we don't know what she moved around. We know
• 37:16
  she's in wisconin Kansas, wherever the hell she Yeah, we know she's off
• 37:20
  that and we know why she's there. You know, she wants to live
• 37:22
  her life and she never got to enjoyed all right, so we'll see.
• 37:29
  Like I said, I enjoyed it. It's just this is skinned that was
• 37:36
  great. It was all okay, let's talk about But the things that did
• 37:40
  work, like you said, just from even from a pure entertainment perspective,
• 37:45
  I didn't like them jumping, like using the concept of time actually still doing
• 37:49
  it right, Like using that concept of talking to somebody in the past and
• 37:54
  yeah, slowly remembering what they've been told for you know, that's what they
• 37:58
  did with ob Like I thought that she was cool, you know, like
• 38:00
  I said, things that get written or broken that in the future of the
• 38:04
  past you see the effects of it. You know. That reminds me a
• 38:07
  lot of games and stuff. And like you said, it's been on an
• 38:08
  older Bill and Ted. Bill and Ted did that the best. Like at
• 38:12
  one point he's like, remember to drop a trash can on this guy's head,
• 38:15
  and the dude's like what, And then a trash can drops on the
• 38:16
  guy's head because he's like, you know, just remember to do this later.
• 38:20
  We got to go back in a time machine and then drop a trash
• 38:22
  can on this guy's head and then that's not played. Feel like great comedicy
• 38:28
  effect. I love she like that because it's clever. It's not just a
• 38:31
  regular joke. It's also like, hey, let's use let's throw some physics
• 38:34
  in there and then the joke and all that shit. Great, that worked,
• 38:37
  you know, No, like I said, it was wildly entertaining.
• 38:42
  It just doesn't. It doesn't bode well, that's all I'm saying, Like
• 38:46
  like five more you know, minutes, and I even know Miss Minnies was
• 38:52
  like what is she? We still know what quite what she is because apparently
• 38:55
  she's not just a holowground they because movies and them that movie's a little and
• 39:00
  like, oh, don't trust her. She was there with yeah, because
• 39:04
  she's there with he who remains. She knew all this was gonna going to
• 39:07
  happen, is what he's saying. She was there with him, so she
• 39:10
  already was she already knew what was at it? Or are we gonna see
• 39:14
  her? They're gonna forget about her too? Oh no, no about the
• 39:16
  like we're never gonna hear about the loom ever again? You think would you
• 39:19
  fuck around and find out it's gonna happen. Somebody's gonna wuck around and find
• 39:22
  out what miss minutes. But the loom I doubt ever gets mentioned it.
• 39:27
  I almost say I want to put money on that, but I ain't.
• 39:30
  That's I think I'm personally trying to understand the fifteenth k I'm trying to understand
• 39:35
  her arc. Like all she kept saying was, oh, you know the
• 39:37
  light the world is different now, we gotta move different now, And I'm
• 39:40
  cool, But then what is she She's just an assistant to Loki and Sylvie's
• 39:46
  story, like she just simply supporting that it is. Does she have her
• 39:50
  own story? That's what if anything? Like like out of the entertain side.
• 39:53
  That's one of the things that bothers me because it doesn't feel like like
• 39:57
  what's Like I'm glad they're giving her a more screen time obviously, but it's
• 40:00
  just like, what are they gonna do with her? Like, okay,
• 40:04
  be fifteen now you got cut out your kneel, you're out the matrix?
• 40:07
  Now what that's how they playing That's that's the at least in the first episode,
• 40:13
  that's kind of how they're playing her. And I'm like, Okay,
• 40:15
  now what y'all gonna do with her. She's gonna do some shit, or
• 40:16
  we're just she's just gonna be a sideline character. I don't know, we'll
• 40:24
  find out. I read one review from someone who's seen the first four and
• 40:29
  they said Sylvia is wildly underwritten. So, like I said, after seen
• 40:34
  the first episode where she's barely in it, now I was like, yeah,
• 40:36
  I don't. I don't spend much. And then you know, if
• 40:38
  if Sylvie ain't getting no love, be better, you know, crazy,
• 40:43
  because be better standing in line, because the whole point of the whole first
• 40:47
  season was Sylvie, Like all roads lead to that one. So I don't
• 40:53
  under like I would give them. The only thing I can think of that
• 40:57
  was a sense was like, oh this is and it's a cheap shot,
• 41:00
  but this is the carrot we're dangling in front of you. We all know
• 41:01
  you want to know what's happening with Sylvie, so you gotta follow this white
• 41:05
  rabbit all the way to the end of forty five minutes and just to find
• 41:07
  out that she's in Kansas. So yeah, watching this episode because we want
• 41:12
  to do a McDonald's you know, commercial at some point in the future.
• 41:16
  But I will say that that that marketing Tyn was Again, this is the
• 41:20
  marketing major in me that that marketing time was pretty cool, even though I
• 41:22
  don't know if it really went anywhere, but the marketing Tyn. They have
• 41:24
  a McDonald's where they had like all the different types of shows including Loki that
• 41:29
  incorporated McDonald's to it. They even had Coming to America with McDonald's and shit
• 41:32
  like that. So I thought, I thought that shit was fired. Like,
• 41:35
  Okay, y'all given, y'all given, y'all given, y'all giving the
• 41:37
  nods and flowers to the other people who's really like, you know, honoring
• 41:40
  y'all legacy too, So mm hmm whatever, whatever. I don't know.
• 41:46
  I sixen. Yeah, I'm still in it. I'm still in it.
• 41:52
  I'm still in it. I mean, I'm going to be in it.
• 41:53
  This is the Marvels. Like we weren't here for all, you know,
• 41:57
  for Secret Invasion Ride. I think I think we didn't record, but I
• 42:00
  wasn't. No, I was here. I mean I watched it all.
• 42:04
  Don't get me wrong. I'm talking about we didn't record and that she was
• 42:06
  asked like, I mean, you know, you just talk about not calling
• 42:07
  things ass but it was he scroll Social Club and Anti scroll all of them,
• 42:16
  and okay, that's not okay, like not to call things to ask,
• 42:20
  but like my one, I felt like nothing happened. And then the
• 42:23
  biggest things that happened in that show I feel like will not be referenced.
• 42:28
  I mean, they're not gonna be referenced here because Loki is in some interdimensional
• 42:30
  ship. But at the end of that show, the President of the United
• 42:32
  States of America basically just declared war on all alien races, not just the
• 42:37
  strolls. He said, any alien murdered them, put them. And that's
• 42:42
  asked guardians, Like you know, that's a lot, and there's like asked
• 42:45
  guardians in Norway. But then there's also like a celestial in the ocean somewhere
• 42:49
  or that's supposed to get touched its four years. It's supposed to be the
• 42:53
  big story in Armor Wars. Okay, so that's they actually addressed the hand
• 43:00
  because I think all awards are going to be like people trying to salvage the
• 43:04
  celestial tech from the celestial So we'll see. But yeah, I don't know
• 43:10
  if that, you know, kill all the aliens are going to get referenced
• 43:14
  again. I just don't. And that was the most interesting thing at that
• 43:17
  show. So that's all, you know, that was my part of that,
• 43:20
  Like that was the most interesting thing. Other than that, I don't
• 43:22
  feel like anything happened. I feel like a lot of these things are waiting
• 43:24
  again for something to happen that is never going to happen. News came out
• 43:29
  today that Marvel quietly fired the what they weren't even called showrunners thanks to the
• 43:35
  new WGA deal. Now Marvel is going to put show runners on the rounds.
• 43:38
  That that's the new WGA deal at work. Shout out to see all
• 43:43
  great work there. So yeah, Daredevil needs new showrunners. I just feel
• 43:50
  like I think I think Marvel's like creating all these different shows in vacuums,
• 43:58
  and I think that might be a problem. That's what the report, the
• 44:00
  Hollywood Reporter report said but essentially expressed that things were being created in the vacuum.
• 44:06
  That's why I said earlier when we were speaking just they were literally just
• 44:09
  throwing money at the problem, and it's like, all right, yes,
• 44:12
  create something, and you know, damned to you know, planning and this
• 44:16
  and that, like it was giving DCEU, oh not DCU and I current
• 44:21
  DCU, but DC it was giving that for a while. I was just
• 44:23
  like, what's going on? It just feels like you're just doing anything because
• 44:28
  it's like, you know, you know, it's kind of like, you
• 44:30
  know, someone knows they're gonna win no matter what, so they kind of
• 44:34
  the effort's not exactly all the way there. It's you know, they won
• 44:37
  two championships. It's hard to win that third. You know, it's mad
• 44:42
  hard to win that third. You know, it's mad hard to win one.
• 44:45
  But then when you win to you know, it's like everyone's done it
• 44:47
  for you and you get complacent. That's when Shack got fat. You know,
• 44:51
  Shack was super fat on that third championship, you know, and you
• 44:55
  know that that's why it was the last one for the Bulls. I mean,
• 44:58
  the Bulls did's twice, but you know, the second time that was
• 45:00
  it. Somehow this is going to get back to Shack. We're only a
• 45:02
  few degrees of separations. Hey, it's almost like it's almost basketball season.
• 45:09
  Baby got Lakers. Shout out saw Cameron and Mace two on because they are
• 45:16
  doing it. That has become my favorite show over the last year and big
• 45:20
  inspiration to me as well, So shout out to them. They're doing it.
• 45:23
  Love that ship. I watch it every morning now. Yeah. Yeah,
• 45:25
  so just back to just to finish up with Loki, like we're still
• 45:30
  in it. I'm I am concerned based on I said. I've been hearing
• 45:35
  mixed reviews from people who saw the first four. I still am hopeful because
• 45:38
  I still have fun and I'm going to let that be the catalyst to give
• 45:43
  me the energy to keep going. You know what I'm saying, Like,
• 45:45
  but what you said was not wrong. What you said was very very on
• 45:49
  point, and I think it, you know, I think this is another
• 45:54
  fat shot, you know instance where it's like they are coasting on what came
• 45:59
  before. You know, they're coasting on Owen Wilson and why can I not
• 46:04
  remember Loki's at hitleson Tom Hidlson. Yeah, they're coasting on knowing how great
• 46:09
  these people are these roles. You know, is that going to be the
• 46:15
  new like literary test name that you created, the fat shock test? Like
• 46:22
  that's when you that's when you've been winning too long, You've been You've been
• 46:25
  doing it the way too long. Your chat looking good today. Shout out
• 46:29
  to chat Man. I saw him on TV today that man is slimming up
• 46:31
  brou because he's been putting on some pounds doing that host and that boy he
• 46:36
  was looking good today. That dude is in shape. What about your girl?
• 46:39
  We haven't seen her googling bout the raw ravana. Yeah, it's a
• 46:44
  damn shame you haven't seen her. You heard her voice, see what I'm
• 46:49
  saying, what a waste? The biggest I mean the biggest in terms of
• 46:52
  the real life implications. But what's going on with this whole Jonathan Majors thing?
• 46:58
  Mm, Like, we haven't told nothing about that about and right now,
• 47:01
  I just feel like it's it's like that that news cycle is dead now.
• 47:05
  I feel like no one can like people people care, But I just
• 47:08
  feel like it happens this way all the time. Something major happens that it's
• 47:13
  just like you really should be paying attention to it, and then it just
• 47:15
  disappears into the ether, right like, because it's gonna come up again,
• 47:20
  like it's you know, it's going to continue to be hang like, what's
• 47:22
  happening. I'm in the trial still on going, That's what FA said.
• 47:25
  He's like, you know, we're not doing anything. And based on that,
• 47:30
  I believe that Disney has done their research and hired their super detectives and
• 47:34
  they figured it out good. They think they're good because otherwise they would have
• 47:37
  fired this Negro ain't no way so because he doesn't he appear what I mean,
• 47:43
  besides his image, doesn't he appear in this? What this niggas the
• 47:45
  major villain heavily. I remember Richter Aka that he filmed a lot for this.
• 47:54
  Oh, he is the main antagonist of this of this season. You
• 47:58
  know we are not seeing him yet, but yeah, Vitor Tommy I think
• 48:01
  will be all over the second episode and throughout it, you know, from
• 48:05
  then on, and and you know everyone's guessing that it's going to end with
• 48:09
  more Kings or different you know, variations. But yeah, this is now.
• 48:15
  That is one thing people have said that, you know, maybe they
• 48:16
  recast them by the end of this, and I doubt it. I just
• 48:19
  don't think that's how it's going down. I think they're committed to Jonathan Major's
• 48:22
  they are committed. The thing is happening in context and timeline context to like
• 48:28
  the events after Man, cause you remember at the end of ant Man they
• 48:30
  had that whole thing where it was a Chilean king so like they was already
• 48:34
  loose like this, that's my think. I mean, I've said that already,
• 48:38
  like ant Man doesn't really see it made sense with the first season a
• 48:42
  Loki, yeah, you know, And so that's my problem. It's just
• 48:45
  like with Doctor Trainy, it feels like these things are being made in these
• 48:47
  vacuums where people are like they're trying to connect it after it's over, but
• 48:52
  it doesn't really connect. So it's like, fuck it. You know,
• 48:54
  this this came the conqueror who has been trapped became the conqueror is the one
• 49:00
  that we're worried about. And at the end of Loki, all of the
• 49:02
  canes were freed, so why is this one trapped? And this one was
• 49:07
  trapped by the other canes? So when did they trap him when they weren't
• 49:12
  even in existence until five minutes ago. I mean, but if it,
• 49:19
  you know, fuck it, you know, because we're moving on and now
• 49:21
  we're there'll probably be another kinge to conqueror because that one was black anyway,
• 49:24
  So I don't know, you know, it sounds so exasperated. It's like
• 49:30
  this shit could be dope. And the other thing with Jonathan Matrix is I
• 49:34
  feel like the court of public opinion, especially you know, black people and
• 49:38
  especially black women. Well not all, but some have. I think the
• 49:43
  court of public opinion right now is against him. So I don't think it
• 49:45
  matters what Marvel does or how to score case turns out. I think people
• 49:50
  view him as a woman beater, and that's just how it's going down.
• 49:53
  And I don't know if that's right, because like from what I've seen in
• 49:57
  the research, it seems like I don't know if yeah, I don't know,
• 50:00
  you know, I don't know, seems kind of weird on both ends.
• 50:05
  Honestly. Over the summer, there was so much, yeah, it
• 50:10
  was, there was a lot of there was a lot of shakiness introduced.
• 50:15
  And that's what I'm saying when you say, like a lot of people are
• 50:16
  against them, I'm like, well, it's not as vocal as I'm not
• 50:20
  saying that people still not against it, it's this doesn't feel as vocal as
• 50:22
  it was. And that's why I'm like, I don't understand. I mean,
• 50:24
  I understand why, that's how media and that's how influence works, but
• 50:28
  like, yeah, for stuff to kind of just die down when it was
• 50:30
  like such a huge deal, like well, there's no more news, and
• 50:35
  it's trying to pop back up when the case goes to court, you know,
• 50:37
  officially, because every time it goes to court and keeps getting pushed back
• 50:40
  for something or this happens. So there hasn't been anything for people to feed
• 50:44
  on. It's not like Johnny Depp, you know, when he was in
• 50:46
  court every day and there's news and it's like, oh shit, revelations and
• 50:50
  all that. So that's why people were feeding on that. Trust. If
• 50:52
  it gets into an ugly court case like or even close to anything like the
• 50:57
  Depth, where the information comes out and shit comes out, it's gonna be
• 51:00
  all over everything because this man's a superstar and the MSCU is huge, and
• 51:05
  so it's like once again that negativity clitch thing. People are gonna use this
• 51:09
  to become stars themselves. So many people fed into that Johnny dep trial just
• 51:14
  to say anything, and usually it was horrible, negative shit, and you
• 51:17
  know, and they became little stars themselves. So you know, and we
• 51:22
  live in a world where people don't care about shame or anything, so people
• 51:24
  will do anything, you know, for the click. And I'm just like,
• 51:30
  I like Jonathan Major and after I don't know, him personally. I've
• 51:32
  never met the man. I don't you know, I don't know. It
• 51:35
  could be a woman beater, could not. Everything seems suspect. It seems
• 51:37
  suspect on his size. On the Huser's side, I don't know, and
• 51:43
  I wasn't there. I also know that most Hollywood drum and we also accepted
• 51:51
  all you know, or that we don't, but you know, the industry
• 51:54
  will accept it from white people a lot more, and you go on and
• 52:00
  watch their movies. Tom Cruise is one of my favorites. I fucking loved
• 52:02
  the Mission of Possible. This Nigga's a commercial for Scientology, which is one
• 52:07
  of the you know up there with the I mean the Catholic Church, I
• 52:09
  mean all the ships. You know, it's like, you know, it
• 52:14
  becomes one of those things like who do you not support? Who do I
• 52:16
  just find out today was like a super right winger and you know, believed
• 52:20
  in Jordan Peterson and all this kind of ship made Michelson like, yeah,
• 52:29
  he looks like I know he's sorry, but you know it's no shots.
• 52:35
  I mean, you got the Nazi face bright, you know, and I'm
• 52:40
  handhim when he's rocking the Nazi haircuts. You know what you heard me the
• 52:46
  Nazi face, Like he looks like he could play a Nazi, you know
• 52:51
  what I mean? Like I would not like Mad Michleson is a Nazi.
• 52:53
  It's not a stretch. You're like, yeah, that's a good role for
• 52:55
  him. I don't think he's ever coming on this show. That's I don't
• 53:00
  really ask you, you know if if that's true about him, funk out
• 53:04
  of here. I don't care, Like, yeah, you know, I
• 53:07
  mean you comic con be like, you know what you look like, sir,
• 53:09
  Like, no, I'm just saying to be a good role for you.
• 53:17
  As if y'all didn't believe us before when we said we're very honest on
• 53:22
  this show. Its true. I mean like, sorry, Mad. You
• 53:25
  know, you're also getting caught in that cross fire of working on Hannibal,
• 53:30
  which is you know, produced by you know, Brian Fuller, who is
• 53:34
  you know? Yeah, you know there's core cases going on these days.
• 53:37
  There's a lot going on out here. I don't know who to believe anymore.
• 53:45
  We got to move on, move on. This is something that I
• 53:50
  wanted to mention when you talked about Mellow. I want to also shout out
• 53:53
  our brother Kimsonian. Okay, oh yes, thank you, super super super
• 54:00
  because his short action, his short film Live Action Exposure, a film by
• 54:07
  Kimson Albert is an official selection at Urban World and it's going to be available
• 54:14
  for It's gonna be at screening on November fourth at seven thirty pm at AMC
• 54:19
  thirty fourth in New York City. It's going to be streamed at the Urban
• 54:23
  World Film Festival. I am so freaking proud of my boy, mister Kimstonian
• 54:30
  an animation extraordinary by the way. Okay, Like he's been behind the teams
• 54:36
  of I mean a cartoon network like Bread and Butter right there. But like
• 54:38
  I just love the fact that I've known him for so long now, and
• 54:43
  you've known him longer, but I've known him for so long now, and
• 54:45
  like just to see all the different things he's gotten to do in his life
• 54:47
  and all the progression and stuff like that, and same like like even looking
• 54:51
  at people like you and everyone else, just like myself, like all the
• 54:53
  things that you just wouldn't didn't even come to mind ten years ago whatever,
• 54:58
  and now you're doing it. Like, so salute to you, Kimsonian.
• 55:01
  Very proud, so tight. I will be seeing your film, and I
• 55:05
  also definitely encourage everyone who is in the New York City area to go see
• 55:08
  it again. I said it was on November fourth, seven thirty pm at
• 55:15
  the AMC thirty fourth. I just had to look and I'm working that night,
• 55:20
  so I will not be Yeah, that's why I just checked it.
• 55:22
  And I'm tight we've covered Urban World before. That's actually where I met Kofebo.
• 55:28
  Nice. Yeah, I will not be there because unfortunately I after work
• 55:31
  that night. But Kimson, I'll definitely check it as soon as it comes
• 55:35
  to streaming or you hit me with that copy so I can pete it myself.
• 55:37
  But you know, congrats to you, very big things doing. And
• 55:42
  uh, before we get out of here, speaking of some other big things,
• 55:45
  you know, Like we said, this week is New York Comic Con.
• 55:47
  You can catch us there, but next week is Howard home Coming a
• 55:53
  HU, you know, and we will be in the house. I'm actually
• 55:58
  touching down in DC Wednesday night, and I'll be there for Thursday, October
• 56:04
  nineteenth. Oh oh, because as you know, Tatiana and I will be
• 56:09
  at the nm H AAC. I think I got it right that time close
• 56:15
  to NMAAHC might the National Museum of African American History and Culture Culture. Okay,
• 56:22
  I'll mess it up again. That's right, close enough, close enough.
• 56:25
  We will be there at the Oprah Winfrey stage presenting When They See Us
• 56:30
  as Heroes, a panel featuring Eve Viewing, Jonathan Gray, Tim Fielder,
• 56:37
  No not Jonathan Gray. Sorry brother Jonathan, that's my dude, but you
• 56:40
  ain't on this pan. I missed so much that. I mean, it's
• 56:44
  the Oprah Theater. We will be on the path. We will be moderating
• 56:50
  the pan. The worst part is Jonathan listens to the show. He's to
• 56:52
  be like word and then it is to be like no Jonathan Gales, Yeah,
• 56:57
  sorry, Tim Fielder and Eve Ewing. Those will be the panelists that
• 57:02
  we will be posting Esteem panelists and we again super doup excited about that,
• 57:09
  like obviously honored. We've been talking about this like for almost a year now,
• 57:14
  or at least alluding to it and then having to talk about it six
• 57:15
  months before. But like this, this is exciting for many different reasons.
• 57:21
  I mean, it's the Blacksnian. It's like to be able to be asked
• 57:25
  to do something like that is humbling, and to also to be recognized for
• 57:29
  our contribution to the culture is inspiring and humbling at the same time. So
• 57:34
  and it makes us feel good, like you know, at the end of
• 57:37
  the day, like not everyone does things for like accolades and awards and stuff,
• 57:40
  but it's nice when you get them. So and it's nice when you
• 57:44
  have these opportunities. And you know, similar to what we were talking about
• 57:46
  before, Like, Yo, we've been doing this, we're professionals. Give
• 57:49
  us the opportunities because we're gonna kill it. We're gonna kill it every time
• 57:52
  we've done this. We know what we're doing. And you know, again,
• 57:54
  just shout and salute to the African American Museum because like this is going
• 58:00
  to be incredible. And also, Jess a reminder for those who are interested
• 58:04
  in attending in person, please register. It is free ninety nine. You
• 58:08
  just got to register. If you can't be there in person but you still
• 58:10
  want to watch it, there is a streaming option. You still got a
• 58:14
  register. I think that's the way you're gonna get the link. And if
• 58:16
  you're going to be there in person, they are actually encouraging everyone to show
• 58:20
  up in cost play. Oh so dead ass. This is going to be
• 58:23
  the Four All Nerds Comic Con in DC during Howard home Coming. We want
• 58:28
  y'all decked out in your cosplay. If you don't want to do the cosplay,
• 58:32
  that's okay. Make sure you're wearing your comic book a superhero shirt,
• 58:36
  or you can wear your Four All Nerds thease like we got. We just
• 58:38
  want to see you there in living color, looking great, beautiful and just
• 58:44
  representing. And everyone is invited, everyone is welcomed, and I'm just I'm
• 58:50
  just thrilled. I'm thrilled that is happening. It's almost there. Yeah,
• 58:53
  October nine to this day, I still can't believe it. It's going to
• 58:57
  be insane. It's going to be, you know, a beautiful moment in
• 59:00
  time. And you know, we've worked hard for this and we earn it
• 59:02
  and we deserve it, and so you know, I'm just grateful. And
• 59:06
  I did not know that they're actually being cosplay, and that really influences my
• 59:08
  fit choice. So I'm coming superfly, you know, all right now,
• 59:12
  I know what I'm doing. Yeah, No, I'm not. Yeah,
• 59:13
  all of the tidd to come in one thing. No, it's it's no,
• 59:15
  I'm coming up. They are encouraging cosplay. So I mean, and
• 59:19
  my thing is like this is pretty monumental anyway, right, like representing for
• 59:22
  the culture, representing for the fandom, you gotta do it. Oh yeah,
• 59:28
  And this is like the whole afrofuturism thing is basically what for all nerds
• 59:31
  is. It's like, I'm gonna talk about this during the panel, but
• 59:35
  you know, as a DJ, as someone who grew up on hip hop,
• 59:37
  which I feel is like afrofuturism, Like it's the promise of aftro futurism.
• 59:44
  It's like George Clinton and Autumn and the Mothership. You know, we're
• 59:47
  giving this idea and hip hop to me is the promise of it, because
• 59:51
  it's like this music that comes from using technology in ways that it wasn't meant
• 59:55
  to be used. And there's a whole other thing that I'll talk more about
• 1:00:00
  it on the panel. You're gonna have to be there to see it because
• 1:00:01
  you know, there's a lot going on. It's just gonna be fire.
• 1:00:05
  And then, like we said, it's also Howard home Coming. I'm touching
• 1:00:08
  down Wednesday night. Wednesday night, you can catch me at the eighteenth Street
• 1:00:12
  Lounge. It's fired a newly revamped Eighteenth Street Lounge. Shout out to my
• 1:00:15
  brother DJ Armageddon, Shout out to the Grandiose Group everybody out there, my
• 1:00:22
  boy b Miller. Thursday night, I'll be at Park with my man Alamo
• 1:00:27
  and Big O and shout out to Mark Barnes. You know Park. I
• 1:00:30
  mean y'all know you know how it's going down Friday night day party. Check
• 1:00:35
  my Instagram. I can't remember where at some joining in Northeast is gonna be
• 1:00:39
  insane that this the third fifth annual Hookie Day party. It's crazy. Who's
• 1:00:45
  going down Saturday? I'm not sure where I'm at yet. And Sunday I'm
• 1:00:49
  at the Dude Drop In with my brother Harry Hotter and DJ Analyze. That
• 1:00:52
  shit is gonna be a lass event. I don't really think it's Howard homecoming
• 1:00:55
  as much, but it's gonna be fire, so you know, yeah,
• 1:01:00
  Well, I will also be on the ground in the streets and all that
• 1:01:05
  during homecoming, not telling you all where I'm gonna be. If you're there,
• 1:01:07
  you're there. If you're not, you're not great, But I am
• 1:01:10
  going to be celebrating. You definitely got to come to one of them events.
• 1:01:15
  An amazing alumni. Yeah, we'll see, we'll see. I'm actually
• 1:01:22
  actually tend to hit up several events. I actually tell that, especially especially
• 1:01:25
  like the day of TAILGA Saturday, like because there's like always a million events,
• 1:01:30
  like literally parties and events happening on top of the other. They're all
• 1:01:34
  overlapping and sometimes get close. So I will be at multiple events. Shout
• 1:01:38
  out to my man Bobby Patterson who bought the old bar seven. That's gonna
• 1:01:43
  be popping all weekend. Yeah, it's it's a lot going down U Street,
• 1:01:47
  gonna be outrageous. We have a Pearl Lounge Saturday night, might be
• 1:01:52
  up and there for a quid minutes. So yeah, it's it's a lot
• 1:01:54
  going down. Follow me on Instagram, DJ Ben, I mean you know
• 1:01:58
  what I mean, me on Instagram to and see my third ship. So
• 1:02:02
  but that being said, I think, is there anything else that we should
• 1:02:07
  be mentioning or talking about. I mean, like I said, we Loki
• 1:02:10
  comes out Thursdays at nine pm, so I know we're gonna be watching that.
• 1:02:15
  We're probably gonna come back next week. And that's another thing I think,
• 1:02:17
  like the scheduling of when we do our reviews is gonna be different.
• 1:02:21
  Than what y'all used to like, yeah, like you know what you say
• 1:02:22
  again when we talk about busting our ass, like you would get that shit
• 1:02:27
  right after right or like the next day. And obviously and also that was
• 1:02:30
  that was helped by you know, us being able to see review review previews.
• 1:02:36
  Yeah, so you know, if we can't do that, then you
• 1:02:38
  know, we gotta do it. We gotta do it the hard way,
• 1:02:39
  right. So, and I think this actually might be helpful for you all
• 1:02:44
  because as I think about it, like you know, lead the day before,
• 1:02:47
  so like leading up to the next episode, like that's when it is
• 1:02:51
  fresh in your mind anyways, but it might be worth you hearing us from
• 1:02:53
  us a little bit later. And that allows us this information to marinate a
• 1:02:58
  little bit, allows us to marinate because if I recorded this one, you
• 1:03:01
  know, the day, the night of, or you know, right after
• 1:03:04
  I saw it, I would have been like, oh yeah, very in
• 1:03:06
  trouble. And then I would have been like the next week I would be
• 1:03:07
  like, you know, people would have been like, but Ben, you
• 1:03:09
  said joy, but what you said yeah, because like the next week I
• 1:03:14
  would have been like, especially if it you know, because I've heard the
• 1:03:16
  second episode, its slow and i've heard another problem I've heard said the same.
• 1:03:22
  Yeah, and the four episodes i've heard spend a lot of time like
• 1:03:27
  this one did too much time to me on what Bruce Willis said in Looper,
• 1:03:31
  when you're talking about time travel, you know, we'll be all here
• 1:03:35
  they drawing diagrams of straws, and I feel like the first episode was a
• 1:03:38
  lot of diagrams of straws, and I feel like they're down for a lot
• 1:03:43
  more diagrams and straws, Like they're like, let's do this because we ain't
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  got shit use to talk about. Please, guys, nobody cares. I
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  know, nobody cares about about the diagrams. But like you said, we
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  just want to see Sylvie and Loki and how they're going to get out whatever
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  messes has been created or not. Yeah, all right, yeah, I
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  think that's about it. Like we said, catch us at New York Comic
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  Con this week, it's going down. You know, we were talking about
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  all the things. A lot of comments. Oh right now, you know,
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  I ain't been doing comics, ey cop, But shout out to my
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  brother Joel, who has been holding Joel is also going to be a New
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  York Comic con so yeah, you see, he's been holding out crazy.
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  He's been having those comics ye cop videos during out the summer. If you
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  see Joel say hello, thank him, all that other stuff give him,
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  so he'll be wearing one of the shirts as well, so it'll be easy
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  to spot. But he's been killing it, and I just want to shout
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  out I have. I haven't been reading too much stuff. I mean I've
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  been reading. I'm bullshit. I'm always reading a whole hell a lot of
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  things. But you know, new old whatever X Men, Red is still
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  in Fuego Alluing and Karen Gillan on Immortal x Men are just doing the Lord's
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  work and I just want to shout them both out because those two butts have
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  been incredible. Luing also killed it with the first issue of a Mortal thor
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  Uh. I think that's about it from the mainstream that I've been reading,
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  and that's about all I got time or I remember right now the shout out.
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  So yeah, check those out though, because I'm really loving what's going
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  on with the whole Mutant saga, just this whole from you know what.
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  Oh no, I will shout no, I won't No, I'm gonna keep
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  it positive. I'm gonna keep it moving. Yeah, you know, shout
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  out to what Hitman did on you know, House of Its Powers. That's
• 1:05:30
  the first issue of God's that's Hitman's new book. I don't know about That's
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  awesome. I don't know. The first issue is like I don't know it.
• 1:05:36
  And before we go, I also want to give personal shout out to
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  Stephanie Williams. Steph I will She has a lot of stuff like that that
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  child does not sleep, but particularly I love the big props she got last
• 1:05:48
  week when she mentioned Strange and Unsung, the all stars of the DC multiverse
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  because there is a forward by James gunn Uh you know, I guess the
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  head honcho now of DC. You and he he just was posting about it
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  like everywhere, and I just really liked that she got that shine and that
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  that support. So shout out to you, Steph. And we're gonna see
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  Steph at Comic Con too. Most definitely she got a big table. I
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  think you know, she'll be sitting there to the big dogs this year.
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  And artist ally, artistality is like that, you know, artistality is based
• 1:06:18
  on popularity, like Tom King holds down this one spot and then I remember
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  a couple of years ago, Kry Randolph and them, they were hitting with
• 1:06:29
  the Magic Book. Jesus is the name slipping me right now, but they
• 1:06:32
  were hitting with that book, the Urban Magic Book Excellence, killing with that
• 1:06:40
  ship and they had to slot. Their table was right next to Tom King,
• 1:06:44
  and I was like, oh, Carr, you feeling good? Yeah?
• 1:06:47
  Getting that love this year right, He's like, your essence is selling
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  through the roof. I think they got an option for a movie all that
• 1:06:54
  shit, so they you know, they were living right then. Yeah,
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  yeah, So see where Cary will be there this year. I think you
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  know, I can't wait to see me. I can't wait to see everybody.
• 1:07:01
  Like we said, if you see us, say what up. We've
• 1:07:04
  told people this for years. We are easily to approach. Let's say,
• 1:07:08
  hi, we are not mean. We'll smile. Well. Love taking pictures
• 1:07:12
  for people. I love hearing that you're a fan of the show. It
• 1:07:15
  makes my fucking day, mates my week, dog, I promise you.
• 1:07:17
  I was looking at pictures from old comic cons and those cats who I didn't
• 1:07:21
  know who came up to me like, yo, I love your show,
• 1:07:23
  d D. We took a picture, you know, there's cats who I'll
• 1:07:27
  become friends with through the years just from them saying what up. So,
• 1:07:30
  you know, be wanting to shot up to my man Tiger billionaire and my
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  brother. It's like my dog man. He knows who he is. So
• 1:07:36
  hopefully I see you there this year and yeah, man, can't wait.
• 1:07:40
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• 1:08:00
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• 1:08:09
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• 1:08:18
  I got a plan just to play some music, play some video games,
• 1:08:23
  talk some shit, so might actually do something later to night. I've seen
• 1:08:26
  how I'm feeling, see if I stay up all night because I'm hype for
• 1:08:29
  fucking Comic Con and then uh, Spider Man two drops this weekend or next
• 1:08:34
  weekend, one or the other, I think next weekend game. Yeah,
• 1:08:38
  And so I'm gonna be heavy on there, like I promise I will.
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• 1:08:56
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• 1:09:12
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• 1:09:15
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• 1:09:23
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• 1:09:26
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