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25W: We Have Possibly Blown our Final Whistle + Super Bowl 58 Preview + 2X Super Bowl Champion Tony Casillas + Our Visit to Wichita with Wichita State Men's Basketball · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

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  Speaker 1: It's a podcast called twenty five wist Stocking Football and
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: they are whist So, yeah, it's too bad, But what
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: don't you expect? It's a podcast called twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: Whistles twenty wine. Hello, welcome. It could be our last
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: show ever. What do you mean why it could be?
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  Speaker 3: No, like somebody dies over the weekend. What do you mean.
• 0:29
  Speaker 2: Our contract runs through the super Bowl, then it's over.
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  Speaker 3: No one told me this.
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  Speaker 2: It's always been that.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my goodness. All right, boys, make it the best
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  Speaker 3: show ever.
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  Speaker 4: Originally.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, like last year we did like seventy for twenty
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  Speaker 5: five and this year we signed double then last year
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  Speaker 5: meaning double episodes fifty even we did more than that,
• 0:52
  Speaker 5: and it was all the way up until the super Bowl.
• 0:54
  Speaker 5: This is probably unless they renew last year. We renewed
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  Speaker 5: up until NCAA basketball. But I've not hurt anything about that.
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: We'll get on it, man, I made every call.
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  Speaker 2: Really, it's super Bowl week.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, they're busy.
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  Speaker 2: It's hard to get hold anybody. So this could be
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  Speaker 2: the last show.
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  Speaker 6: Hey, it's been good.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 5: I thought you said best ever, but now I'm like,
• 1:34
  Speaker 5: it's could be our last. Who cares well, what a
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  Speaker 5: way to go out there. Two times Super Bowl champion
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  Speaker 5: Tony Casi is on with us.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome.
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  Speaker 2: It's coming up.
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  Speaker 5: And also Paul Mills, head coach of Wichitall State Basketball
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  Speaker 5: and assistant coach Quincy Acy who played in the NBA
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  Speaker 5: for a bunch of teams and guard Xavier Bill.
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  Speaker 2: So that's coming up. So we're gonna have a heck
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  Speaker 2: of a possibly last show.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe not Okay, I do not know.
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  Speaker 2: Give me send a message right now.
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  Speaker 3: And ask please just say like, hey, we're wondering what
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  Speaker 3: to do. We're recording our last show right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh we're not wondering what to do.
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  Speaker 8: I know what to do.
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  Speaker 2: Just do the show.
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  Speaker 3: Oh what do you mean? We still just do it?
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  Speaker 2: You want to just quit mid mid. I don't understand
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  Speaker 2: what we do different.
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  Speaker 3: Someone tells me, hey, you're gonna die like in the
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  Speaker 3: next thirty minutes, I'd be like, cool, all right, see, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you just.
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  Speaker 2: Said do the best show ever. Then you blew the whistle,
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  Speaker 2: but yeah, you're all over.
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  Speaker 3: It changed my mind quickly.
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  Speaker 5: Hold on, hey man, it's uh after ten here Ceral time.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know where you are, if you're in Vegas
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  Speaker 5: for the super Bowl yet or not. We are doing
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  Speaker 5: our very last twenty five whistles that we know of.
• 2:32
  Speaker 5: I'm with all the guys now and they were a
• 2:35
  Speaker 5: bit shocked. This is our last show unless you have
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  Speaker 5: heard that we're getting renewed at all for any weeks
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  Speaker 5: or for NCAA basketball. If you have any new information,
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  Speaker 5: please let us know. And I'm sitting with them now.
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  Speaker 5: Anything you want to say, Yeah, we need it, man,
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  Speaker 5: we need more episodes.
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  Speaker 6: We're not done yet.
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  Speaker 2: All right, man, talk to you soon.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: I won't to have a job. Who was there? Who
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  Speaker 2: was that mister Drapkings was mister oh well, that's cool
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  Speaker 2: for sure?
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  Speaker 3: In Vegas.
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  Speaker 5: It was actually Kevin Lagrette, who was head of iHeartRadio
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  Speaker 5: Sports from Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 2: So we'll see what's up.
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  Speaker 3: I know, I know who he is.
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  Speaker 5: All right, let's go to what's possibly the final tittle tattle?
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  Speaker 5: Oh no, no, no, all right, let's go even do it.
• 3:31
  Speaker 2: The last tattle. Read's now jumping into it, redoing it.
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  Speaker 2: Never ever does you talk? And now he jumps in.
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  Speaker 2: He's losing it.
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  Speaker 9: We're going crazy. Well, super Bowl weekend it's here. What
• 3:48
  Speaker 9: is your favorite headline heading into the big game?
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  Speaker 8: Oh?
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  Speaker 3: I got mine?
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  Speaker 5: Well, so the headlines, for example are Taylor Kelsey, Will
• 3:59
  Speaker 5: Taylor make the make it?
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  Speaker 3: That's a big one.
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  Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes is if he wins again, will he be
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  Speaker 5: a step closer being the greatest of all time? If
• 4:08
  Speaker 5: he doesn't win, is he a step closer to being
• 4:10
  Speaker 5: the greatest of all time? Just getting there?
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  Speaker 2: Rock party? Is he legit or not?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I like that one.
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  Speaker 5: Andy Reid chasing Belichick the same way that Mahomes is
• 4:18
  Speaker 5: kind of chasing Brady if he wins another one, He's
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  Speaker 5: in that conversation for sure. Kyle Shanahan back at it
• 4:25
  Speaker 5: after one lost Super Bowl last time, but also twenty
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  Speaker 5: eight to three when they were up on the Patriots
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  Speaker 5: in Atlanta. He was the offensive coordinator, so this is
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  Speaker 5: his vindication. Ish the two top defenses. My favorite storyline.
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  Speaker 3: Of all of that A lot to choose from.
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  Speaker 5: What interests me the most. I guess my favorite storyline
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  Speaker 5: is will I win this money? Because I haven't cashed
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  Speaker 5: out of it?
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  Speaker 3: You haven't seen that storyline, the headline.
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  Speaker 2: It's mine though, because I did all these futures on
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  Speaker 2: Kansas City.
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  Speaker 6: Is that up anywhere?
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  Speaker 3: No, man, it's in Bobby's Bobby's publication.
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  Speaker 5: It's a story that I'm doing now in my head.
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  Speaker 5: I was like, what most interests me about this game?
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  Speaker 5: It's that I have all these futures on Kansas City.
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  Speaker 5: I haven't made any bets on the game itself, and.
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  Speaker 3: You haven't cashed out any of those.
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  Speaker 2: I've done a couple of prop bets. I've not cashed
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  Speaker 2: out anything.
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  Speaker 3: We told you what to do. Is it just a
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  Speaker 3: bit when you ask us for advice?
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  Speaker 2: No, it's not. But a lot of times when you
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  Speaker 2: say stuff, I do the opposite.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, And that's why I asked.
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  Speaker 3: When we see the outcome, You're like, I good call.
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  Speaker 5: Who do you think wins the game? Because mine is
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  Speaker 5: there's no points mine was just a future to win
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  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: I think the Chiefs win the game.
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  Speaker 2: That's what most people think.
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  Speaker 3: That's my prediction. Yeah, except Vegas, except Vegas. You're right, correct, Kevin.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, who wins the game?
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  Speaker 6: The Chiefs?
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: If I yeah, if you're holding a gun to my head,
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  Speaker 6: I hot and say the Chiefs.
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  Speaker 2: You just put it on the quarterback, you think.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, at the end of the day, like like what
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  Speaker 6: what what do you say around here?
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  Speaker 8: Gott to be the man.
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  Speaker 5: You gotta beat the man exactly. Also, can't City's defense,
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  Speaker 5: although young, they're really good. I have one cash out
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  Speaker 5: that I could do right now for one thy ninety
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  Speaker 5: seven dollars.
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  Speaker 2: That's the one we told you. I just think I'm gonna.
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  Speaker 3: Roll, Yes, roll dogget.
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  Speaker 4: With raw Doggett.
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  Speaker 9: All right, next question, all right, do you think Kyle
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  Speaker 9: Shanahan needs to win the Super Bowl in order to
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  Speaker 9: get put in the Andy Reid category?
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  Speaker 5: Well, yeah, Andy reads in the category of is he
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  Speaker 5: the greatest of all time? And if he wins this one,
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  Speaker 5: he'll be in that category. Now he's that guy in
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  Speaker 5: the precipice of being possibly the one of the greatest
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  Speaker 5: of all time. But he needs to win a super
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  Speaker 5: Bowl because the Niners have been really good. He's been
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  Speaker 5: really good, but twice his teams have choked. He listened,
• 6:47
  Speaker 5: he didn't play defense, he didn't coax the defense when Atlanta,
• 6:50
  Speaker 5: but they also didn't score, you know, yeah, so that sucks.
• 6:56
  Speaker 3: In the San.
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  Speaker 5: Francisco they had it. Yeah, Jimmy g throw a bad back.
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  Speaker 5: But again, it's never just on one play. There are
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  Speaker 5: also always many decisions that lead to one play. But
• 7:06
  Speaker 5: I think he needs to win the super Bowl to
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  Speaker 5: be considered one of the I mean, it's just like
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  Speaker 5: a ring, even though it's always not fair. You get
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  Speaker 5: a ring, you're considered a level higher than nobody who
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  Speaker 5: doesn't have a ring, even if the person who doesn't
• 7:19
  Speaker 5: have the ring is better. For example, when people compare
• 7:22
  Speaker 5: like now read, who would you say it was a
• 7:23
  Speaker 5: better quarterback, knowing what you know, Eli Manning two super
• 7:26
  Speaker 5: Bowl wins or Jimmy wis Dan Reno played all No?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like who would you have as your quarterback? But
• 7:33
  Speaker 2: I've heard better things about Dan Marino. You've heard better things. Yeah,
• 7:36
  Speaker 2: I would say Peyton's better than Eli, right, yeah, but.
• 7:39
  Speaker 3: We're talking about Eli and Dan. Right, let's comparison.
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  Speaker 5: All I would say is a lot of people don't
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  Speaker 5: give Dan Reno the credit possibly be one of the
• 7:46
  Speaker 5: greatest ever because he has no rings. Charles Barkley same thing,
• 7:48
  Speaker 5: no rings. I think he needs a ring. He's been
• 7:52
  Speaker 5: to the Super Bowl twice falcons of Niners. He's reached
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  Speaker 5: the NFC Championship five times. He's known as one of
• 7:58
  Speaker 5: the greatest offensive minds. None owns a guy that makes
• 8:00
  Speaker 5: grea adjustments at halftime but just can't win the big game.
• 8:04
  Speaker 3: It's got to be much easier for Andy Reid too.
• 8:06
  Speaker 3: When your quarterbacks Patrick Mahomes, you got Shanahan, You're just
• 8:09
  Speaker 3: like God.
• 8:09
  Speaker 5: To be fair Andy Reid's quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes, because Patrick Mahomes,
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  Speaker 5: Andy Reid, meaning all these quarterbacks and Andy Reid systems
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  Speaker 5: from Alex Smith to Dante Culpepper to whomever.
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: They always that's you want to be in his system?
• 8:21
  Speaker 3: Oh wow, I didn't really.
• 8:21
  Speaker 9: But until like when they won it four years ago.
• 8:24
  Speaker 9: Now he had that monkey on his back too, Andy Reid.
• 8:26
  Speaker 9: You know, he went to the NFC Championship what four
• 8:28
  Speaker 9: years in row with the Eagles, couldn't get it done,
• 8:30
  Speaker 9: and then they lost to the who oh the Patriots? Yeah,
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  Speaker 9: I think right, ye, No, four.
• 8:36
  Speaker 5: We don't care, we don't hate the Patriots, and not
• 8:38
  Speaker 5: really prove him. Man, it's the last show and you're
• 8:40
  Speaker 5: being all spiteful tittle tattle.
• 8:42
  Speaker 9: Next, all right, the quarterback is a heavy favorite to
• 8:44
  Speaker 9: win the MVP. But if you had to pick one
• 8:46
  Speaker 9: non QB, who would it be easy?
• 8:48
  Speaker 5: I know McCaffrey is the dude that probably is gonna
• 8:51
  Speaker 5: get the ball and it will be the factor. However,
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  Speaker 5: I think that I think people would love for it
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  Speaker 5: Kelsey to be the MVP.
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  Speaker 2: Oh gosh, I hope and if it's close, yes please no.
• 9:02
  Speaker 5: So the problem is, if Kansas City wins, Mahomes is
• 9:04
  Speaker 5: probably the MVP, and if San Francisco wins, most likely party,
• 9:09
  Speaker 5: but it also could be one of those other guys.
• 9:11
  Speaker 5: It could be anybody from AYUK or Debo. But for
• 9:14
  Speaker 5: Kansas City to have Kelsey be the MVP, is Kelsey
• 9:18
  Speaker 5: scoring like three touchdowns? Because if Mahomes throws three, Kelsey
• 9:24
  Speaker 5: catches all three. Kelsey is gonna get the benefit of
• 9:27
  Speaker 5: that doubt because of Taylor, just because it's easier to
• 9:32
  Speaker 5: throw a touchdown because you have all these options and
• 9:34
  Speaker 5: to catch a touchdown when you're the only option just
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  Speaker 5: a numbers game. Yeah, So I think Kelsey would be
• 9:40
  Speaker 5: hilarious to win. And I think if it's even he'll
• 9:42
  Speaker 5: get it. And this is a big deal too, because
• 9:44
  Speaker 5: if he retires after this year, we're not going to have.
• 9:47
  Speaker 3: He's getting married.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna tire. And I don't know that he's
• 9:49
  Speaker 2: getting married.
• 9:50
  Speaker 3: That's what they're saying.
• 9:51
  Speaker 2: They said that about every tailor romance.
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: True.
• 9:55
  Speaker 9: Yeah, right, next up the last one. Let's do a
• 9:57
  Speaker 9: two parter because it could be the last one ever. Right,
• 9:59
  Speaker 9: Usher is set to perform. So are you excited about Usher?
• 10:02
  Speaker 9: And number two? Who out of an artist or a
• 10:05
  Speaker 9: band that you haven't seen perform there at the super Bowl?
• 10:07
  Speaker 6: Would you like to see?
• 10:08
  Speaker 5: I don't want any of my favorite people to ever
• 10:10
  Speaker 5: perform at halftime in the Super Bowl because all it
• 10:11
  Speaker 5: does is create haters. So one of my favorite yeah,
• 10:15
  Speaker 5: imagine one of my favorite bands. Let's say Foo Fighters
• 10:17
  Speaker 5: goes out and plays and freaking rocks it. It doesn't
• 10:21
  Speaker 5: matter how good they play. My wife's gonna be like,
• 10:22
  Speaker 5: why these old dudes up?
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: They're playing?
• 10:24
  Speaker 5: And people and then people who just want to complain
• 10:26
  Speaker 5: and be like that sucked even though it was great,
• 10:28
  Speaker 5: because they do it to everybody. So I don't want
• 10:30
  Speaker 5: my favorite band to play that halftime show.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: It's not worth it.
• 10:33
  Speaker 5: I think like a Beaber or an ed Shearon would
• 10:37
  Speaker 5: be cool because generally they're liked and there's really not
• 10:39
  Speaker 5: a lot they can do to make people like them
• 10:41
  Speaker 5: less because what they do you already get it. They
• 10:45
  Speaker 5: go out, they play their music, they sing at Sharon
• 10:47
  Speaker 5: especially it's guys a guitar, you'd be good.
• 10:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that would be cool, or like.
• 10:54
  Speaker 5: I just wouldn't do it if I were like somebody,
• 10:55
  Speaker 5: though that depended so much on the vocals, Like if
• 10:58
  Speaker 5: you were like an Adele for example, Oh yeah, because
• 11:00
  Speaker 5: it's so she's so good vocally that if they happen
• 11:03
  Speaker 5: to mess that up a little bit where it's not
• 11:04
  Speaker 5: exactly perfect, it didn't live up to the Adele standard.
• 11:06
  Speaker 3: Well, they lip sync it too, right.
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Sometimes sometimes in some of it, but not all of
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  Speaker 2: it all the time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like they turn it off when they're like thank
• 11:14
  Speaker 3: you super Bowl.
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  Speaker 10: Well.
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  Speaker 5: I think they also sing with their track sometimes too,
• 11:17
  Speaker 5: because it's been a thing where it's like, oh, their liptaking.
• 11:19
  Speaker 3: I think they missed the boat on this one huge
• 11:21
  Speaker 3: opportunity and not how Taylor do it?
• 11:22
  Speaker 5: They couldn't mean I believe the sponsor maybe it was
• 11:25
  Speaker 5: last year, the sponsor that the pepsi coke thing apple
• 11:29
  Speaker 5: this year. And also why would Taylor doesn't she doesn't
• 11:33
  Speaker 5: need it, No, because they don't even pay it.
• 11:35
  Speaker 6: It doesn't pay it just for the followers and promotion. Yeah,
• 11:39
  Speaker 6: she definitely doesn't need.
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  Speaker 2: It first person ever.
• 11:41
  Speaker 7: Right now?
• 11:42
  Speaker 2: All right, that's the final tittle Tattle, Thank you stupid.
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: The tittle Tattle.
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  Speaker 5: underdog at plus two. Let's let's pop those eyes little
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  Speaker 10: I like that.
• 12:20
  Speaker 5: Because you get two defenses and I'm going Kelsey over
• 12:24
  Speaker 5: seventy point five receiving yards.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's it.
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  Speaker 2: Count your smiles one final time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.
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  Speaker 10: Thank you.
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  Speaker 5: over to our chat with two time Super Bowl champion Eddies.
• 13:01
  Speaker 5: Dude who you guys sat with him in the suite
• 13:03
  Speaker 5: at the Cowboys game.
• 13:04
  Speaker 2: Oh dude, Yes, it's awesome. I have his phone number.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: And how you got him on the show. Yeah, got
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: his number.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 13:09
  Speaker 3: I told him all about what we do and everything.
• 13:11
  Speaker 3: He's like, cool, man's get me on your podcast. We'll see.
• 13:14
  Speaker 5: So he requested you and then you said we'll see dude,
• 13:16
  Speaker 5: and I said we'll see Elan.
• 13:17
  Speaker 2: That's not how it happened.
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  Speaker 6: Yes, please, please come on our podcast.
• 13:21
  Speaker 4: Do we love It?
• 13:22
  Speaker 11: Tony.
• 13:23
  Speaker 5: Tony was a nose tackle who went back to back
• 13:24
  Speaker 5: Super Bowls with the Cowboys in the early nineties. Right,
• 13:27
  Speaker 5: he won a natural championship at Oklahoma, Big big Boomer,
• 13:31
  Speaker 5: Sooner guy.
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: Him and Eddy became best friends. Did you write this?
• 13:34
  Speaker 3: I did not, but that's a great description.
• 13:37
  Speaker 5: Him and Eddy became best friends, and they met in
• 13:39
  Speaker 5: Dallas for a game this year and I grew stronger
• 13:40
  Speaker 5: during this. Okay, anyway, here he is at Tony Casillas.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 13:45
  Speaker 5: Do you consider yourself or do you think that you
• 13:48
  Speaker 5: get called out more for being a Sooner legend or
• 13:51
  Speaker 5: a Cowboys super Bowl champion? If you're just somewhere, who
• 13:55
  Speaker 5: are you mostly Tony the Sooners All American or Dallas
• 13:58
  Speaker 5: Cowboy champion?
• 14:00
  Speaker 12: Well, I'll tell you what with my Super Bowl ring,
• 14:01
  Speaker 12: I'm just this old old guy with the Super Bowl ring.
• 14:04
  Speaker 12: And you know it's a funny thing about as a cowboy.
• 14:07
  Speaker 12: You're living in Dallas, and man, it's just been you know,
• 14:10
  Speaker 12: Dallas has been this toxic relationship for so many years.
• 14:13
  Speaker 12: I think everyone just hears the same thing and you
• 14:16
  Speaker 12: know it's going to change, But you never change, and
• 14:19
  Speaker 12: you break up and you go back together. You know,
• 14:22
  Speaker 12: I think probably living in Dallas. You know, I've been
• 14:26
  Speaker 12: out of the game for so long, but uh, you know,
• 14:30
  Speaker 12: the true true fans remember you. Uh you know, Dallas.
• 14:34
  Speaker 12: It's such an Unfortunately, as I mentioned, it's been so
• 14:36
  Speaker 12: long since we've done anything relevant, and which is okay,
• 14:41
  Speaker 12: we just have to reminisce about it the old times.
• 14:43
  Speaker 12: But I think, oh, you, football is something that always
• 14:46
  Speaker 12: be in my DNA. God, I had so many great memories.
• 14:50
  Speaker 12: I think when I go back to Oklahoma, yeah, a
• 14:52
  Speaker 12: lot of people, you know, they recognize my work. And
• 14:55
  Speaker 12: in regardless of how do you get, there's some there's
• 15:01
  Speaker 12: a yoke between you and the fan base. And I
• 15:04
  Speaker 12: think that that's the beauty of that. The beauty of
• 15:07
  Speaker 12: I think when I look at playing the game of
• 15:09
  Speaker 12: football is how lucky I've been to be able to
• 15:12
  Speaker 12: play on championship teams because a lot of fans, the
• 15:17
  Speaker 12: fan base will forget different players and different groups of generations,
• 15:23
  Speaker 12: but they have the tendency not to forget hopefully the
• 15:27
  Speaker 12: history and understand that. And I think in Oklahoma is
• 15:32
  Speaker 12: obviously a great case for that. But you know, Dallas
• 15:36
  Speaker 12: is such a Again, it's just it's been such a
• 15:39
  Speaker 12: long time, and so people have to we have to
• 15:42
  Speaker 12: be relevant somewhat with the guys that played in the
• 15:45
  Speaker 12: Super Bowl thirty years. As weird as that sounds, unfortunately,
• 15:50
  Speaker 12: that's where we're at now, which is not my it's
• 15:52
  Speaker 12: not my undoing. I tell everyone I have nothing to
• 15:54
  Speaker 12: do with it, and we just did what we did,
• 15:56
  Speaker 12: and I do I do tell people. You were just
• 16:00
  Speaker 12: born at the wrong place at the wrong time.
• 16:02
  Speaker 5: So would you rather if you had to pick one, Oh,
• 16:04
  Speaker 5: you won a national championship next year, first year in
• 16:06
  Speaker 5: the SEC, or the Cowboys won the Super Bowl?
• 16:08
  Speaker 11: Damn, that's a great question because you.
• 16:10
  Speaker 2: Only get one.
• 16:12
  Speaker 12: Uh Uh, I don't know. I think that's a great question.
• 16:20
  Speaker 12: I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Dallas. I think Oklahoma
• 16:23
  Speaker 12: and let it's gonna take some transition for them to
• 16:26
  Speaker 12: get used to the SEC, and you know, I think
• 16:29
  Speaker 12: they'll win. But it's I think the parody is a
• 16:32
  Speaker 12: little different. I think the Big Twelve had some great
• 16:35
  Speaker 12: teams in it, or some teams, you know, with the
• 16:38
  Speaker 12: trans support and the nil you guys know, it just
• 16:41
  Speaker 12: changes everything. It's just you can't really get any gauge
• 16:44
  Speaker 12: on any team because they changed so much. I'm looking
• 16:48
  Speaker 12: for that answer. I'm gonna go with I'm gonna go
• 16:50
  Speaker 12: with Dallas because I think that they're we and here
• 16:54
  Speaker 12: I am following it's not even it's not even preseason yet,
• 16:58
  Speaker 12: because that's usually what everyone does. Our year, this is
• 17:00
  Speaker 12: our year, Yeah, this is our year, or it's yeah,
• 17:04
  Speaker 12: it's our year until it gets to the postseason play
• 17:07
  Speaker 12: and him, We're like, what the hell just happened the
• 17:09
  Speaker 12: last seventeen weeks.
• 17:14
  Speaker 11: But I don't know.
• 17:14
  Speaker 12: I think it's gonna be interesting. And you know this,
• 17:16
  Speaker 12: what's the bonds is what you know, Bobby, is that
• 17:19
  Speaker 12: my daughter went to Arkansas. So I'm a big Arkansas
• 17:23
  Speaker 12: FN and I know John Daly and I know he's
• 17:25
  Speaker 12: a huge obviously he's he bleeds uh you razor back.
• 17:29
  Speaker 12: But I love going to Arkansas. I love going to
• 17:32
  Speaker 12: I love the SEC and environment and everything that goes
• 17:35
  Speaker 12: along with that. And but it's just that's a that's
• 17:41
  Speaker 12: a man's that's a big boy conference. So but I'm
• 17:45
  Speaker 12: gonna go with Dallas. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna
• 17:48
  Speaker 12: continue on. It's gonna be our year, and damn, I
• 17:51
  Speaker 12: just want them.
• 17:52
  Speaker 11: I just want them to.
• 17:54
  Speaker 12: Go back while I'm still here. I mean, is that
• 17:58
  Speaker 12: too much ass? Let's just keep our fingers cross man.
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: That's not too much to ask. I think that's that's
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: that's perfect. But Tony, let me ask you this. You
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: were there when Jimmy Johnson did the famous how about
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: them Cowboys? What was that like in person? I mean,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: obviously you were on top of the world when that happened,
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: but that's something we will as Cowboys fans will say forever.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: And you were there.
• 18:20
  Speaker 11: But here's the thing. I remember.
• 18:23
  Speaker 12: You know, he got inducted the Ring of Honor, guys
• 18:26
  Speaker 12: went back for his players. He wanted to make sure
• 18:28
  Speaker 12: that we're able to come back and experience that, which
• 18:32
  Speaker 12: was long overdue. But when he when he came out
• 18:35
  Speaker 12: there and the last thing you said, I think we're
• 18:38
  Speaker 12: all just anticipating that happened, but when he said it,
• 18:42
  Speaker 12: how about them Cowboys? It just it's just very vivid
• 18:45
  Speaker 12: because I remember, after, you know, we won the Super Bowl,
• 18:52
  Speaker 12: that he that's the words that came out of his
• 18:56
  Speaker 12: after the after the game, after we won the game.
• 18:57
  Speaker 12: And it's so vivid because hadn't changed. You know, Jimmy's older,
• 19:02
  Speaker 12: but his his his delivery and his communication with us
• 19:09
  Speaker 12: in the locker room was the thing that great coaches
• 19:12
  Speaker 12: were able to do.
• 19:12
  Speaker 11: And who would have thought that that would have been
• 19:15
  Speaker 11: this legendary.
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 19:18
  Speaker 12: You know this quote that he said after the game
• 19:22
  Speaker 12: is beyond and you know, it just really sends what's
• 19:26
  Speaker 12: chills down your spine because being in that moment and
• 19:29
  Speaker 12: understanding how vivid it was and to hear him say it,
• 19:32
  Speaker 12: you know, granted this has been thirty years ago and
• 19:35
  Speaker 12: now here it.
• 19:37
  Speaker 11: Man, it's timeless.
• 19:38
  Speaker 12: And the fact that he did it when Dallas was
• 19:42
  Speaker 12: getting blown out by Green Bay at the halftime, Like
• 19:45
  Speaker 12: why did they just kind of.
• 19:46
  Speaker 11: Plug it in the locker room?
• 19:47
  Speaker 12: So these guys, these these modern day players could hear
• 19:51
  Speaker 12: that because it doesn't change, man, it makes you move.
• 19:53
  Speaker 12: And so yeah, it's it's a vivid, vivid moment that
• 19:57
  Speaker 12: will never change. And he was just amazing communicator. He
• 20:02
  Speaker 12: just pulled those things out of nowhere and just here
• 20:05
  Speaker 12: we go thirty years later. That's and you'll hear that forever.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I've always wondered, you know, like how the announcers get
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: clarifications for like names, you know, and I'm Hispanic, and
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: I know that Garcia is a little easier, but Garcias
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: is like specific. My last name is did you have
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: to tell people over and over like all right, this
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: is how you pronounce it's not Cacilla's, like, this is
• 20:26
  Speaker 3: how you pronounce it.
• 20:29
  Speaker 10: Well, it's a.
• 20:29
  Speaker 12: Butcher name, without a doubt, and I expected. What's interesting
• 20:34
  Speaker 12: is like when I was growing up in Oklahoma, I
• 20:37
  Speaker 12: had sixty five first cousins, a big culture Hispanic family.
• 20:42
  Speaker 12: Dad had thirteen brothers and sisters. Do the math, Hispanic Catholic,
• 20:46
  Speaker 12: so kind of get the picture. So when I was
• 20:51
  Speaker 12: when I was in prejudice and was really relevant prevalent
• 20:55
  Speaker 12: in Oklahoma. And so it was funny because we lived
• 20:59
  Speaker 12: on the other We lived in the white neighborhood, so
• 21:03
  Speaker 12: to speak. We got out and then it really wasn't
• 21:06
  Speaker 12: this you know, it very middle class or maybe lower
• 21:09
  Speaker 12: middle class. But my grandparents lived on the other side.
• 21:12
  Speaker 12: And what would happen is every weekend, all of a sudden,
• 21:16
  Speaker 12: you know, it's like a small house. It's like one
• 21:19
  Speaker 12: or two room house, very small. I remember I could
• 21:21
  Speaker 12: touch the ceiling when I was like sixth grade, that's
• 21:23
  Speaker 12: how small the house was. So anyway, we had everyone
• 21:26
  Speaker 12: would come there with sixty five first cousins, grandparents, everything,
• 21:29
  Speaker 12: my kid, my, my, uh. You know, my dad never
• 21:33
  Speaker 12: spoke Spanish around me, but I know when he got
• 21:34
  Speaker 12: around my uncles, they started, you know, saying all these
• 21:36
  Speaker 12: corchina words. I knew they didn't want to sit here
• 21:38
  Speaker 12: what they were talking about. But anyway, when I went
• 21:41
  Speaker 12: over to my grandparents, they my uncles and aunts pronounce
• 21:45
  Speaker 12: their named Cassius. But then we went back over to
• 21:50
  Speaker 12: east side Tulsa, it went back to Casillas, and I'm thinking, okay,
• 21:53
  Speaker 12: well aren't we related. This is something to your brother,
• 21:57
  Speaker 12: and so he never did give me really an answer
• 22:00
  Speaker 12: that so it's Casillas. So everyone called me Casillas until
• 22:03
  Speaker 12: I got to college and I'm my following had a
• 22:06
  Speaker 12: hard heart conversation. I said, Dad, I said, why why
• 22:10
  Speaker 12: is a hard name pronounced different than my other family
• 22:13
  Speaker 12: as well?
• 22:14
  Speaker 11: I just wanted to make it sound more Anglo.
• 22:16
  Speaker 12: We're living in an area and I just didn't want
• 22:17
  Speaker 12: to hear all you guys have to go deal with
• 22:19
  Speaker 12: all the prejudice. And so that's when I went back
• 22:22
  Speaker 12: to Casillas. And you know, Obviously, people that knew me,
• 22:27
  Speaker 12: you know, thought that my name was Casillas for a
• 22:29
  Speaker 12: long time, and I said, now I corrected them. So,
• 22:32
  Speaker 12: but yeah, it's a very profound name. It's very I
• 22:36
  Speaker 12: know there's a lot more cassius is out there, but
• 22:38
  Speaker 12: uh it's probably one of the most butchered names, without
• 22:41
  Speaker 12: a doubt.
• 22:42
  Speaker 5: Whenever you're drafted by the Falcons, you play a few
• 22:44
  Speaker 5: years in Atlanta and you're you know, you head over
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: to Dallas. But Dallas wasn't good your first year's in Atlanta,
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: as a matter of fact, they were terrible. So when
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: you were going to Dallas, were you like, all right,
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: I'm about to get in on it, organizations, it's on
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: the way up.
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: Or were you like, I don't even know what's about
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: to happen.
• 23:01
  Speaker 12: No, I knew anything was good, but I knew anything
• 23:03
  Speaker 12: it was gonna be better than than uh th In Atlanta.
• 23:06
  Speaker 12: It was this toxic environment the organization. It was more
• 23:11
  Speaker 12: uh more just trying to make money and not spend
• 23:15
  Speaker 12: money to be good, and it just become this culture
• 23:18
  Speaker 12: of it was very toxic. And I just coming from
• 23:23
  Speaker 12: Oklahoma and winning. I know that you're the second player
• 23:26
  Speaker 12: picked in the draft and it's you. It's a huge honor.
• 23:30
  Speaker 11: You get paid. You know, back then, I thought it
• 23:32
  Speaker 11: was a lot.
• 23:32
  Speaker 12: I mean, it's still a lot of money, but you know,
• 23:34
  Speaker 12: the anyway, I knew that there's a lot of things
• 23:37
  Speaker 12: that come with that. For one, it's that you're gonna
• 23:39
  Speaker 12: be on a really crappy team, and I was. But
• 23:42
  Speaker 12: I think it was a culture.
• 23:43
  Speaker 11: There was not.
• 23:44
  Speaker 12: I think that that's kind of the misleading about people. Whenever,
• 23:48
  Speaker 12: you know, they think that they see these athletes playing
• 23:50
  Speaker 12: on different teams and how glamorous it is, and you know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 12: social media and everything. But I'll tell you what, you
• 23:56
  Speaker 12: get into that that routine of just going to work
• 24:01
  Speaker 12: and you've heard this all the time and just getting
• 24:03
  Speaker 12: a paycheck. I mean, all of a sudden, it becomes us.
• 24:06
  Speaker 12: It's contagious and everyone has that same attitude. Hey, we
• 24:09
  Speaker 12: don't we don't need to win. We can go four
• 24:10
  Speaker 12: and twelve and I'm gonna get ready for a vacation
• 24:13
  Speaker 12: when it's the tenth week in the season. So I
• 24:16
  Speaker 12: just didn't and I hated that, and so I you know,
• 24:20
  Speaker 12: I got traded, and I tell you, what's the best
• 24:22
  Speaker 12: thing going to happen to me. You mentioned Jimmy Johnson.
• 24:25
  Speaker 12: Jimmy Johnson, he saved my football career because you know,
• 24:28
  Speaker 12: Jay Dave One said, who I knew from high school
• 24:30
  Speaker 12: recruited me. I knew Jimmy, he was both they were
• 24:33
  Speaker 12: Oklahoma State, so they had some familiarity with me, and
• 24:37
  Speaker 12: so they saw the good in me. But I tell you, dude, man,
• 24:41
  Speaker 12: when I got to when I got to Dallas and
• 24:43
  Speaker 12: I got up playing, it was it was a night
• 24:46
  Speaker 12: and day, and people were excited. Even if they were bad,
• 24:50
  Speaker 12: they still had expectations because that was coming from the
• 24:53
  Speaker 12: new owner and I was coming from a coach, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 12: you just kind of knew it wasn't going to be
• 24:57
  Speaker 12: like that forever. These guys going to make something really
• 24:59
  Speaker 12: really special happening.
• 25:01
  Speaker 5: You beat Buffalo twice in a row. They ended up
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: losing two. They end up losing two more. After what loss,
• 25:06
  Speaker 5: did you start to feel bad for them?
• 25:08
  Speaker 10: No?
• 25:09
  Speaker 12: No, never, never, never, don't ever feel bad for the opponent. Look,
• 25:15
  Speaker 12: there's a reason why you know you got the rings
• 25:18
  Speaker 12: and they don't. I guess they give you a runner
• 25:21
  Speaker 12: up ring in the Super Bowl. But this is not
• 25:24
  Speaker 12: as good as the as the uh, you know, the
• 25:26
  Speaker 12: super Bowl, the Champion Ring and and I guess there
• 25:30
  Speaker 12: was some many. I mean, you go to the super
• 25:31
  Speaker 12: Bowl four times and you can't you don't have anything
• 25:33
  Speaker 12: to show for it. I guess I feel sorry to
• 25:35
  Speaker 12: the fans. I mean they got the best fans, But no,
• 25:39
  Speaker 12: I never feeling I don't really feel sorry for the loser.
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: I mean, I just I don't.
• 25:43
  Speaker 5: Whenever they were playing the Giants, or did you root
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: for Buffalo when you guys weren't in it because you
• 25:47
  Speaker 5: had played them, or did you have like a weird
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: taste because you played them and competed against them and
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: didn't like them.
• 25:53
  Speaker 11: Well, you never we hated people in the NCAST.
• 25:56
  Speaker 12: I mean, yet that's you got the Giants, you got Washington,
• 26:00
  Speaker 12: and you got the Eagles, So you all you hated
• 26:02
  Speaker 12: each other in that division.
• 26:04
  Speaker 11: Without a doubt.
• 26:05
  Speaker 8: You know.
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: Now I cheer for Buffalo.
• 26:07
  Speaker 12: I think it's it's been so long and as long
• 26:10
  Speaker 12: as Kansas City's and the AOC and you know, all
• 26:13
  Speaker 12: these other teams, they just for some reason that's kind
• 26:16
  Speaker 12: of the you know, that's uh, they can't ever get
• 26:19
  Speaker 12: over the winning the Big Game. And it's been for
• 26:21
  Speaker 12: a long time. And but yeah, I'm just like anyone else.
• 26:25
  Speaker 12: I love watching football. I'm I'm a huge fan. But yeah,
• 26:29
  Speaker 12: when it comes to playing a team and Phil and
• 26:32
  Speaker 12: so for me and you watch guys after the game,
• 26:34
  Speaker 12: maybe it's old school, you know, exchanging jerseys and you know,
• 26:37
  Speaker 12: after you get your ass kicked, and like really, I
• 26:39
  Speaker 12: mean you really want to you want my jersey after
• 26:41
  Speaker 12: I just kicked your ass, and and I hate, I
• 26:46
  Speaker 12: don't like that, but I guess that's just the way
• 26:48
  Speaker 12: it is in today's generation.
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: So with San Francisco and the Super Bowl and obviously
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: my memories, especially when you were playing it was Dallas
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: and San Francisco in the NFTY championship every year, it
• 26:58
  Speaker 5: felt like every year, right, And so do you still
• 27:01
  Speaker 5: have you know, this negative feeling just towards the brand
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: of the forty nine ers, not the people or the
• 27:07
  Speaker 5: organization or because they were a rival or as that
• 27:10
  Speaker 5: long gone as well.
• 27:12
  Speaker 12: You know what, I think there's certain when they're playing Dallas,
• 27:15
  Speaker 12: I think some of that stuff comes out.
• 27:18
  Speaker 10: And I think that.
• 27:21
  Speaker 12: You know, our success against the forty nine ers and
• 27:23
  Speaker 12: you just mentioned we played each other and it met something.
• 27:26
  Speaker 11: You know, it's gonna be the postseason play.
• 27:28
  Speaker 12: It's gonna be the forty nine Ers and the Cowboys
• 27:30
  Speaker 12: and all these historic matchups and everything that goes along
• 27:33
  Speaker 12: with it. But I mean, when I look at the
• 27:36
  Speaker 12: Super Bowl, I just think it's such an accomplishment that
• 27:39
  Speaker 12: teams get there because it's so hard to get there.
• 27:42
  Speaker 12: And I think we you know, there's a lot of
• 27:44
  Speaker 12: people that they have their teams and the teams they
• 27:49
  Speaker 12: chair for, and even for Buffalo in saying that, yeah,
• 27:53
  Speaker 12: I said, I feel sorry for him. But the fact
• 27:57
  Speaker 12: that you get you're able to get there is a
• 27:59
  Speaker 12: huge pomplishment and winning it. I mean, there's so many
• 28:02
  Speaker 12: things that have to happen for you to for you
• 28:05
  Speaker 12: to be able to get on that road of going
• 28:08
  Speaker 12: to Super Bowl. But you know, I look at the
• 28:11
  Speaker 12: forty nine Ers, The Raiders are probably the worst the
• 28:16
  Speaker 12: most aggressive fan base, I would say, and that would
• 28:20
  Speaker 12: be the Raiders and after that the forty nine Ers.
• 28:23
  Speaker 12: First of all, if anybody who invites you to go
• 28:25
  Speaker 12: to forty nine Ers Raiders game, don't go, man, a
• 28:30
  Speaker 12: good chance you're gonna get your ask you're or it
• 28:33
  Speaker 12: depends on which jersey are gonna wear. But I just
• 28:37
  Speaker 12: love watching I mean, there's so many great things these two.
• 28:40
  Speaker 12: You know, with San Francisco, you got a quarterback that
• 28:42
  Speaker 12: was drafted, last player picked in the draft and taking
• 28:45
  Speaker 12: his team to Super Bowl. So there's so many storylines
• 28:47
  Speaker 12: to it to not make you to want to make
• 28:50
  Speaker 12: you cheer for him just because of what their storylines are,
• 28:53
  Speaker 12: all right.
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: Three final questions.
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: Dan Quinn left defensive COORDA did a great job in Dallas,
• 28:58
  Speaker 5: but now he's gonna go and be the head coach
• 29:00
  Speaker 5: of the Commanders.
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: How big of a loss of the Cowboys is that.
• 29:05
  Speaker 11: I think it's a big loss.
• 29:07
  Speaker 12: I think that I think we all kind of knew
• 29:10
  Speaker 12: that Dan was going to be a head coach again
• 29:13
  Speaker 12: after Atlanta, and but I think that after that playoff
• 29:18
  Speaker 12: game and when Dallas lost the Green Bay there was
• 29:21
  Speaker 12: kind of some kind of decision making that was made
• 29:24
  Speaker 12: on the defensive side of the ball.
• 29:26
  Speaker 11: But I don't know.
• 29:27
  Speaker 12: I think that there's probably some things on that defense
• 29:30
  Speaker 12: we don't know about. I think that when you look
• 29:32
  Speaker 12: at the players that they have defensive lead, you know,
• 29:36
  Speaker 12: I think Micah Parson is a tremendous player.
• 29:38
  Speaker 11: But I think sometimes you may be a little selfish
• 29:43
  Speaker 11: and because you look.
• 29:45
  Speaker 12: In that game not to get too technical, the way
• 29:48
  Speaker 12: they're playing with on the nickel Pats, they're playing with
• 29:50
  Speaker 12: a lot of defensive backs.
• 29:52
  Speaker 11: They really didn't have a linebacker.
• 29:53
  Speaker 12: All their linebacker were decimated Leydon vander Ashy, he was injured,
• 29:57
  Speaker 12: so they really their their linebackers.
• 29:59
  Speaker 11: Just this appeared.
• 30:01
  Speaker 12: And I just don't think Micah the way he plays,
• 30:04
  Speaker 12: he wants to play up and make all these big plays,
• 30:06
  Speaker 12: and there's nothing wrong with that, but whenever you need
• 30:08
  Speaker 12: to solidify the core of your defense, you've got no
• 30:11
  Speaker 12: one to play. I just don't think guys really took
• 30:15
  Speaker 12: on that role. And I think Dan's gonna be a
• 30:18
  Speaker 12: tremendous a tremendous coach. Everyone I talked to been around
• 30:21
  Speaker 12: and he's this leader man, he's very defense is fun
• 30:24
  Speaker 12: to play and uh and and really the guy's really
• 30:28
  Speaker 12: he's the last three years you got to what he
• 30:30
  Speaker 12: did for the Dallass defense was amazing. And will it
• 30:34
  Speaker 12: hurt uh to a certain stoint, But I think that
• 30:38
  Speaker 12: there'll be a different philosophy, but but it'll be a
• 30:40
  Speaker 12: philosophy that's kind of similar to what they have now.
• 30:43
  Speaker 12: But I think he's going to be a tremendous tremendous coach.
• 30:46
  Speaker 12: I mean, Washington got their guy. I think he'll definitely
• 30:48
  Speaker 12: help turn that program around.
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, along with that Champ. You know people the fans
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: are always talking about like, oh.
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: I know he's a Champ, but you just it was
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: just like so actually super Bowl Tim, Yeah, I love it.
• 31:02
  Speaker 10: Man.
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: Hey to be honest, when when we were listening to
• 31:07
  Speaker 3: let him continue, Hey, just a couple of cowboys fans
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: talking here. All right, Okay, so Champ, like I was saying,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: so so, so you know, like a lot of the
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: fans love that. They blamed Dak, they blame Jerry Jones,
• 31:20
  Speaker 3: they blamed the coach, they blamed d like like Dan Quinn,
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: they blame all sorts of things, And I just feel like,
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: don't they know what they're doing, Like we don't know
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: what's going on in there? Like we they know what
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: they're doing. But you've been inside it too, Like is
• 31:35
  Speaker 3: that is that factual? To be inside the organization and
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: listen to fans listen to radio shows talk about what
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the problem is and then you just listen to that
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: and say, like, that's not even close to what's happened here.
• 31:45
  Speaker 12: Well, I think that that's now with Uh, it was funny.
• 31:48
  Speaker 12: I asked Troy im I was doing a podcast doing
• 31:51
  Speaker 12: some hit on Instagram and and I was asking, so,
• 31:54
  Speaker 12: what would be the difference between now and you know,
• 31:56
  Speaker 12: when you played in the quarterback now for the Cowboys,
• 32:00
  Speaker 12: because I probably have about five million more followers on Instagram.
• 32:04
  Speaker 12: So the social media component has really changed things. Because
• 32:09
  Speaker 12: it's a brand. I think that that really it's kind
• 32:12
  Speaker 12: of a slippery slope for the brand, especially the Dallas
• 32:15
  Speaker 12: because I think that some guys just get all caught
• 32:17
  Speaker 12: up in that really didn't cut their teeth or do
• 32:21
  Speaker 12: anything to haven't won anything in the last thirty years,
• 32:25
  Speaker 12: and so it's a representation of what this brand brings
• 32:29
  Speaker 12: you as a player, and I think sometimes that kind
• 32:31
  Speaker 12: of gets lost in all the most important thing is
• 32:33
  Speaker 12: like you go out there and you're supposed to win,
• 32:35
  Speaker 12: and this is a franchise that's one in the past,
• 32:41
  Speaker 12: so it's your job to get us relevant. And I
• 32:43
  Speaker 12: think sometimes it gets lost with just hey, I'm a
• 32:46
  Speaker 12: Dallas Cowboy, I'm America's team. Forty million people watch this
• 32:51
  Speaker 12: last week, They're going to see me and then I'm
• 32:52
  Speaker 12: gonna And I think sometimes maybe for some guys and
• 32:57
  Speaker 12: it gets they get caught up in that. I think
• 32:58
  Speaker 12: that that's kind of something we're seeing with this team
• 33:03
  Speaker 12: because whenever you show up and you play in a
• 33:07
  Speaker 12: playoff game like they did against Green Bay and you
• 33:10
  Speaker 12: play awful on offense, on defense, every aspect, coaching was
• 33:15
  Speaker 12: horrific and was terrible, and then you expect people to
• 33:20
  Speaker 12: listen to what you have to say without any criticism.
• 33:24
  Speaker 11: And to me, you can't have it both ways.
• 33:27
  Speaker 9: Man.
• 33:27
  Speaker 11: You got If you want to.
• 33:28
  Speaker 12: Be part of this platform and you don't want to
• 33:32
  Speaker 12: be criticized your play, or you played and you want
• 33:34
  Speaker 12: to be soft, then that's your problem. To me, I
• 33:38
  Speaker 12: think that that's kind of been a demise, certainly for
• 33:42
  Speaker 12: Dallas in the last few years, just because of that.
• 33:44
  Speaker 12: Because the brand's gotten so big without any without any validation,
• 33:49
  Speaker 12: validating hey, we're.
• 33:50
  Speaker 11: This good and it and you know this.
• 33:52
  Speaker 12: It makes people mad to hear America's team and like, hey,
• 33:55
  Speaker 12: you guys haven't done anything in years but.
• 33:59
  Speaker 11: Jerry's and Mark genius.
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: You are who you are.
• 34:02
  Speaker 5: You are America to My final question is more of
• 34:05
  Speaker 5: a statement. I got a text from my father in law,
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: massive ou fan. He said to tell you thanks for
• 34:10
  Speaker 5: the goal line stand against Texas and Nebraska.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: He really appreciated that.
• 34:16
  Speaker 5: What do you remember about the goal line stands against
• 34:20
  Speaker 5: Texas and Nebraska?
• 34:23
  Speaker 12: Well, I remember the Texas game and tell you your dad,
• 34:27
  Speaker 12: your dad, right, just tell your dad that I'm still
• 34:29
  Speaker 12: my butt still heard about that game because we end
• 34:31
  Speaker 12: up losing. You know, the goal line stand was amazing
• 34:35
  Speaker 12: and that it was nineteen eighty four in the Cotton
• 34:38
  Speaker 12: Bowl Ou Texas game and we're just balling out and
• 34:43
  Speaker 12: during the duration of that game, there's so many plays
• 34:46
  Speaker 12: that we recovered far more we got takeaways, but we
• 34:49
  Speaker 12: didn't get the ball. We just didn't catch any of
• 34:51
  Speaker 12: the breaks we should have. Instant replay slammed up in
• 34:54
  Speaker 12: the game. Then we had the goal line stand and
• 34:57
  Speaker 12: we had to keep them out as miserable as and uh,
• 35:01
  Speaker 12: just this kind of a cool environment if you're a player,
• 35:04
  Speaker 12: just down and dirty. And they had the ball right
• 35:06
  Speaker 12: there on the goal line right there. I believe it
• 35:10
  Speaker 12: was fourth and or it was first in half of
• 35:13
  Speaker 12: half a yard to the score, and we stuffed them
• 35:16
  Speaker 12: four times, and ultimately that's how we ended up winning
• 35:19
  Speaker 12: the game. We're tying the game because we we ended
• 35:22
  Speaker 12: up taking a safety and then they got the ball
• 35:24
  Speaker 12: back and uh, we made an interception in the end
• 35:28
  Speaker 12: zone which was clearly two yards in bounds by Keith Stanberry,
• 35:32
  Speaker 12: and that would have changed the like we would have
• 35:34
  Speaker 12: won the game. But they were certainly they're very fortunate,
• 35:40
  Speaker 12: and they kicked the field goal and tied. So you know,
• 35:43
  Speaker 12: that really pissed me off, and I was really upset
• 35:45
  Speaker 12: about that.
• 35:47
  Speaker 8: Uh.
• 35:47
  Speaker 12: In the Nebraska game, you know, we played Nebraska, It's
• 35:51
  Speaker 12: always there was always something that was gonna happen big
• 35:55
  Speaker 12: at whoever won that game, and we needed to win
• 35:57
  Speaker 12: that game. In Norman, we stuffed in the same same
• 36:01
  Speaker 12: uh circumstances. It was one of these, uh you know,
• 36:05
  Speaker 12: you you can keep them mount the in zone or
• 36:07
  Speaker 12: we're not going there one spot playing for the national championship,
• 36:10
  Speaker 12: and we ended up stuff because you know what, we
• 36:12
  Speaker 12: were used to it. You know, it's a thing about it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 12: Tell people you get used to doing things and you
• 36:18
  Speaker 12: create that confidence that you're do. You think yourself can't,
• 36:21
  Speaker 12: you can't accomplish, and you do it once or twice.
• 36:25
  Speaker 12: You know what, We're gonna get confidence. And that's what
• 36:28
  Speaker 12: we did. We played with a lot of confidence, and hell,
• 36:31
  Speaker 12: we knew it was a state and we ended up
• 36:33
  Speaker 12: went out there and got it done.
• 36:35
  Speaker 5: Tony, we really appreciate the time. And Eddie appreciates your life. Yeah, thanks, Jim,
• 36:40
  Speaker 5: he really appreciate it.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: He appreciates you existing all and yeah, everything about you.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: Actually.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: So you guys follow Tony Casias at Tony Casias on Instagram.
• 36:50
  Speaker 5: Two time Super Bowl champion, and you know, let's go.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: Let's go Chiefs. If you guys like, well, I have way,
• 36:59
  Speaker 5: I got a bunch of money on the Chiefs.
• 37:00
  Speaker 2: I bet a bunch of future.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: I bet a bunch of futures like way a long
• 37:04
  Speaker 5: time ago on Kansas City. So we're looking at a
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: big payout if they happen to win.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: So let's go Chiefs.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I support my buddy, So let's go Chiefs.
• 37:12
  Speaker 12: Yeah.
• 37:13
  Speaker 11: Yeah, let's go cheef.
• 37:14
  Speaker 2: Let's go cheese.
• 37:15
  Speaker 11: Hey. So what I like is the prop bets. What
• 37:18
  Speaker 11: do you think what's the biggest prop bet for you?
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Well, we were gonna we like the over under.
• 37:24
  Speaker 5: I think it's now it's like twenty one of the
• 37:26
  Speaker 5: first touchdown, the jersey the first person who scores, And
• 37:30
  Speaker 5: so we were laying out obviously Debo, but Mahomes.
• 37:35
  Speaker 2: But he's not gonna rush.
• 37:36
  Speaker 5: He has no rushing touchdowns the whole year, So I
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: don't know. To me, it feels like I'm gonna bet
• 37:44
  Speaker 5: the over on that and hope it's like a Kelsey.
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: But McCaffrey Brandon Ayuk is a low number two.
• 37:49
  Speaker 5: But like McCaffrey Kelsey, you know, I think those guys
• 37:53
  Speaker 5: are who I would bet on scoring.
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: That's that's our favorite one.
• 37:56
  Speaker 10: Man.
• 37:57
  Speaker 12: I thought you were gonna do it over and under.
• 37:58
  Speaker 12: How many times are gonna shaw Taylor's You.
• 38:01
  Speaker 5: Know, I've learned not to really talk about that. You know,
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: I feel that the the power of the Swifties when
• 38:08
  Speaker 5: I am.
• 38:08
  Speaker 11: Not I'm sorry, I just had I had to throw
• 38:11
  Speaker 11: that out hey.
• 38:12
  Speaker 2: And I'm glad you did. But swift you heard it.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: It wasn't me.
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Swifties and whatever number that is, it's going to be
• 38:17
  Speaker 5: over probably unless she hides.
• 38:21
  Speaker 11: Yeah. I love yeah, I love I love the prop bets.
• 38:25
  Speaker 12: We did a Super Bowl party before the's like twenty
• 38:27
  Speaker 12: five questions and you know how long the national anthem is?
• 38:30
  Speaker 12: How you know who they which coach are going to
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  Speaker 12: show first? And you know which just this different thing
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  Speaker 12: is pretty cool to the bet prop bets. But man,
• 38:38
  Speaker 12: I really appreciate you guys having me on here. This
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  Speaker 12: is true and honor. I appreciate love your show, my
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  Speaker 12: boy man. Thanks for the thanks for the Champ comments
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  Speaker 12: that that that made by day.
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  Speaker 2: You got it, Champ anytime, all right, Tony, see you
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  Speaker 2: letter buddy, Peace out.
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  Speaker 5: talk now with witch Toss State head coach Paul Mills
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  Speaker 5: from our show Too Much Access. Coach Mills was an
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: assistant at Baylor for fourteen seasons before going to Oral
• 40:11
  Speaker 5: Roberts and now witch Toll State. He talked about his
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: inability to sit during games because of an old injury,
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: and we really liked him.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: Good dude, here is coach Mills.
• 40:20
  Speaker 5: Coach, thanks for having us. We noticed there's a game
• 40:23
  Speaker 5: on now when we're here.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: What's like ten am?
• 40:25
  Speaker 10: Yes?
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: Early, this game can't be live because you're not there.
• 40:28
  Speaker 5: So do you ever choose to show bad games? Or
• 40:31
  Speaker 5: is it only wins on the screen in the locker
• 40:33
  Speaker 5: room one?
• 40:34
  Speaker 13: I have no idea what game it is, So I'm
• 40:36
  Speaker 13: not responsible for that. But there's no reason in the
• 40:39
  Speaker 13: world to relive bad games. You know, you're probably trying
• 40:42
  Speaker 13: to relive good experiences. So I can promise you I've
• 40:46
  Speaker 13: been married for twenty six years. If my wife ever
• 40:49
  Speaker 13: asked me to watch our wedding video it actually went well.
• 40:53
  Speaker 13: If it had gone sideways, we wouldn't want to relive that.
• 40:55
  Speaker 13: So if a game's on, it's probably one we won. Okay,
• 40:58
  Speaker 13: so it's Saint Louis we win, Yeah, and we win
• 41:02
  Speaker 13: this for sure? Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's good.
• 41:04
  Speaker 5: Do you ever see yourself in even a game you
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: win and you're kind of maybe, man, I wish I
• 41:08
  Speaker 5: would have reacted that way, Like I'm kind of embarrassed
• 41:10
  Speaker 5: by because I do it all the time. I always
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: embarrassing my own actions. You ever see you react to
• 41:14
  Speaker 5: something and you think, maybe maybe that's a little too much?
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: Yes, definitely.
• 41:17
  Speaker 13: I think any of us, as we're doing anything, we're like,
• 41:21
  Speaker 13: I could have handled that better.
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: And you know, it's just an issue of growth, right.
• 41:24
  Speaker 13: I think people who don't ever want to grow, they
• 41:27
  Speaker 13: think they're always perfect. But the people who can kind
• 41:30
  Speaker 13: of look introspectively and say, man, I could have tightened
• 41:32
  Speaker 13: this up, I could have responded better. I find myself
• 41:35
  Speaker 13: sometimes doing that with my own children, like we got
• 41:38
  Speaker 13: in ninety two on the history test instead of a
• 41:42
  Speaker 13: ninety five and not really, but you kind of do
• 41:47
  Speaker 13: that with your players, and you learn how to handle
• 41:50
  Speaker 13: things better.
• 41:51
  Speaker 5: Being a parent and being a coach similarities there, same thing.
• 41:56
  Speaker 4: A lot of encouragement.
• 41:57
  Speaker 13: You recognize when they're down, and you recognize when they
• 42:01
  Speaker 13: need to be encouraged. You recognize when things aren't going.
• 42:04
  Speaker 4: Well and you're asking them why.
• 42:07
  Speaker 13: And the reality is, I'm probably with these guys more
• 42:12
  Speaker 13: than I am some days with my own family. I mean,
• 42:15
  Speaker 13: I'm around these guys four hours every day, six days
• 42:19
  Speaker 13: a week, and then if you're traveling and playing games,
• 42:21
  Speaker 13: you're probably with them about ten twelve hours a day.
• 42:24
  Speaker 13: So you're around these guys quite a bit, and you
• 42:27
  Speaker 13: kind of recognize what works. Some guys are encouragement guys
• 42:30
  Speaker 13: and you got to tell them how good they're doing.
• 42:32
  Speaker 13: Other guys are challenge guys. I have little Man syndrome,
• 42:36
  Speaker 13: and so the more you challenge me, the more I
• 42:39
  Speaker 13: would kind of all right, I'll prove you wrong. And
• 42:42
  Speaker 13: so you kind of do you have to know all
• 42:43
  Speaker 13: the different personalities in the room and how to handle it.
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: But very similar. I'm a better coach because I'm a parent.
• 42:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 5: My next question was about leadership, and you talked about
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: a little bit there because it's on a one size
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: fits all with different personalities, even with me and my role,
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: and I have a big staff, and I have to
• 43:00
  Speaker 5: handle everybody a little differently based on the performance I
• 43:04
  Speaker 5: can get from them on how they like to be
• 43:06
  Speaker 5: communicated with where some players like to have it told
• 43:09
  Speaker 5: and something I just like to have dance around and
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: like to be soft with them. How do you how
• 43:12
  Speaker 5: long is the kind of figure out someone's communication style
• 43:15
  Speaker 5: and method?
• 43:16
  Speaker 13: Yeah, it takes a while, you know, you have to
• 43:18
  Speaker 13: spend a lot of time with them. We do a
• 43:19
  Speaker 13: thing called Mills Mills in my L L S M
• 43:23
  Speaker 13: E A L S H Mills Mills. Yeah, and so
• 43:28
  Speaker 13: so we eat every Sunday night.
• 43:29
  Speaker 4: And oh that's what I thought.
• 43:30
  Speaker 8: It was.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: Whole mill. Let's take me a ls How many triangles
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: in this triangle?
• 43:37
  Speaker 5: I'm like, all right, let's go.
• 43:38
  Speaker 4: Being from Houston, my pronunciation isn't great.
• 43:41
  Speaker 13: So you kind of got from Arkansas, and so you know,
• 43:46
  Speaker 13: spending a lot of time in that fellowship where they
• 43:48
  Speaker 13: get to know each other, We get to know them. Uh,
• 43:51
  Speaker 13: we quite a bit obviously on the road together. So
• 43:54
  Speaker 13: being in those situations to where you know, but I
• 43:57
  Speaker 13: think you can be demanding without being demeaning. You can say, hey,
• 44:01
  Speaker 13: here's the standard. How do we rise up to it.
• 44:04
  Speaker 13: We're not going to lower the standard. This is the standard.
• 44:08
  Speaker 13: How can I help you reach that standard? How can
• 44:11
  Speaker 13: we make sure that you have the resources and the
• 44:13
  Speaker 13: people necessary in order to get to where you need
• 44:15
  Speaker 13: to go. I can recall one day somebody in the
• 44:19
  Speaker 13: office said, man, can I get you know what I
• 44:21
  Speaker 13: need to help me? I need a paper cutter. It's say,
• 44:23
  Speaker 13: all right, next morning, try to stop by target and
• 44:28
  Speaker 13: you hey, here's a bow with a paper cutter on it.
• 44:31
  Speaker 4: That's going to help you. I don't know how it's
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: going to.
• 44:33
  Speaker 13: Help you, but if that's going to help us be
• 44:35
  Speaker 13: more efficient, those are the things you want to do.
• 44:37
  Speaker 13: And so I think you're just constantly this is the standard,
• 44:40
  Speaker 13: this is what needs to get done.
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: We're not going to lower it.
• 44:45
  Speaker 13: We can be demanding without being demeaning, but you need
• 44:48
  Speaker 13: to tell us what you want out of this so
• 44:52
  Speaker 13: that we can help you, provide the resources, provide the
• 44:55
  Speaker 13: people in order to get to wherever it is we're.
• 44:57
  Speaker 10: Trying to go.
• 44:58
  Speaker 5: Just so you know, coach, so a coach, I coach
• 45:01
  Speaker 5: my son's ten year old basketball team.
• 45:03
  Speaker 4: To say so.
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: But after a game, coach, I'm exhausted. Yeah, Like sometimes
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: it's Saturday morning, eleven o'clock game. Afterwards, I'm like, I
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: need a beer, Like I'm so tired from just screaming
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: and stressing and yelling.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Are you exhausted after a game depends.
• 45:20
  Speaker 13: On the game, but you're definitely pretty fatigued. There's just
• 45:24
  Speaker 13: so much prep work. So we'll give a scouting report
• 45:28
  Speaker 13: to our players, and it'll be about one hundred and
• 45:31
  Speaker 13: twenty hours committed to that specific scouting report. And you
• 45:35
  Speaker 13: have to keep it really, really simple. So all the
• 45:38
  Speaker 13: preparation and the work that goes into presenting that information
• 45:42
  Speaker 13: to your players to help them on the court, that
• 45:45
  Speaker 13: takes a lot. The practices leading up to it take
• 45:48
  Speaker 13: a lot. The game takes a lot. That's probably the most.
• 45:51
  Speaker 13: But I have so much adrenaline flowing in me after
• 45:54
  Speaker 13: the game, whether we win or lose. If you win,
• 45:58
  Speaker 13: you're kind of like, all right, if we lose, You're like,
• 46:02
  Speaker 13: what went wrong? And I'm just so anxious to jump
• 46:05
  Speaker 13: into the film usually takes me about eight hours after
• 46:09
  Speaker 13: a game. So let's say a game seven o'clock. I
• 46:12
  Speaker 13: get home ten thirty eleven. I'm usually pulling all nighters.
• 46:16
  Speaker 13: I usually go to about seven am, breaking down the
• 46:20
  Speaker 13: game and figuring everything out. If we win by a lot,
• 46:22
  Speaker 13: sometimes I'll cut it down by like after two or
• 46:25
  Speaker 13: three and say, I'm gonna get back to this in
• 46:26
  Speaker 13: the morning. But what happens in conference is you only
• 46:29
  Speaker 13: get one day off sometimes between games. I don't know
• 46:33
  Speaker 13: how football coaches do it, because if you lose, I
• 46:35
  Speaker 13: couldn't wait another week. So I do like basketball, it's like,
• 46:39
  Speaker 13: all right, forty eight hours, we'll get another chance. But
• 46:42
  Speaker 13: I find the adrenaline. I am tired, but it's like
• 46:45
  Speaker 13: I gotta fight through this because we got another team
• 46:47
  Speaker 13: to prepare for in forty eight hours.
• 46:50
  Speaker 5: Has it ever been so bad that you buried the
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: tape and don't watch it?
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: Like the game was so bad?
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Done, don't I can't ever recall that.
• 47:00
  Speaker 13: Baylor for fourteen years prior to going to Oarl Roberts
• 47:04
  Speaker 13: and We lost a lot of games by fifty my
• 47:08
  Speaker 13: first four years, you know, going against Kevin Durant and
• 47:11
  Speaker 13: Blake Griffin and really good players in the Big Twelve.
• 47:15
  Speaker 13: And so there were days there that we forgot about
• 47:18
  Speaker 13: the tape and just kind of moved on. But it's
• 47:21
  Speaker 13: different now as a head coach because you feel that
• 47:24
  Speaker 13: these are the it's on us and the staff to
• 47:28
  Speaker 13: tighten these areas up, and so I haven't. I don't
• 47:31
  Speaker 13: believe as a head coach.
• 47:33
  Speaker 5: Has it ever really been your fault, because coach will
• 47:35
  Speaker 5: be like that one's on me, but I always feel
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: like they're just taking the bullet.
• 47:37
  Speaker 4: No, it's been my fault. So I'll tell you this.
• 47:40
  Speaker 13: When we played in the Sweet sixteen game in twenty
• 47:42
  Speaker 13: twenty one, when I was at Oarl Roberts, we lost
• 47:44
  Speaker 13: by two points to tell Arkansas, Yeah, Arkansas's.
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: Come on, man, you know what Paul Mills got.
• 47:51
  Speaker 13: Paul Mills got a technical that allowed Arkansas to get
• 47:55
  Speaker 13: too free.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: Throughout love you remember that, I love you? Oh yeah,
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: And in my mind it's man, I could have handled
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: that better.
• 48:03
  Speaker 13: And you just if you ever coach a Sweet sixteen
• 48:05
  Speaker 13: game and it doesn't go your way, lose by fifty
• 48:09
  Speaker 13: instead of losing by two. Losing by two keeps you
• 48:12
  Speaker 13: up at nights. But I do, yeah, I totally you
• 48:15
  Speaker 13: got to own it. That's on you, and I could
• 48:18
  Speaker 13: have done better. Although we did go on a fifteen
• 48:21
  Speaker 13: to four run right after the technical and kind of
• 48:25
  Speaker 13: I just like that, and so so any of that
• 48:28
  Speaker 13: you do kind of have to think through it. But yeah,
• 48:31
  Speaker 13: I definitely think from my perspective, it's on me.
• 48:35
  Speaker 5: What about like, schematically, have you ever just planned wrong?
• 48:38
  Speaker 13: Oh my goodness, yes, really yeah. And it's easy to
• 48:42
  Speaker 13: say all your players they didn't get it done. That's
• 48:45
  Speaker 13: just easy to throw your guys under the bus. But no,
• 48:49
  Speaker 13: definitely planned wrong. Didn't think a guy who, hey, this
• 48:52
  Speaker 13: only makes twenty percent of his three point shots. All right,
• 48:55
  Speaker 13: we're gonna give him some looks. And what he is
• 48:59
  Speaker 13: is he's a confident kid. So he sees those first one.
• 49:02
  Speaker 13: You want him to make the first one if they're
• 49:04
  Speaker 13: bad shooters, because what you know is they'll keep shooting. Like,
• 49:07
  Speaker 13: all right, the bad shooter made one, he's going to
• 49:10
  Speaker 13: continue to do it. Then he makes a second one,
• 49:13
  Speaker 13: you're like ugh, And the third one you're like, holy
• 49:16
  Speaker 13: Cole you can do now, he's just feeling it. That
• 49:18
  Speaker 13: match is lit and you can't put it out. And
• 49:21
  Speaker 13: I've done that before to where you just made a
• 49:25
  Speaker 13: mistake on some personnel calls alle oops.
• 49:28
  Speaker 3: We love watching him as a fan, but as a coach,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: do you like do you like alle oops? Or yeah,
• 49:34
  Speaker 3: like you know, let's just do the safe playing.
• 49:37
  Speaker 10: No.
• 49:37
  Speaker 13: So the best shot in basketball is a dunker layup.
• 49:40
  Speaker 13: So we're trying to get as many of those as possible.
• 49:43
  Speaker 13: And if you can have guys who can go up
• 49:46
  Speaker 13: and fetch that stuff, it's pretty one. It's it's an
• 49:50
  Speaker 13: electric play. But to be honest with you, it's a
• 49:52
  Speaker 13: good play. Like if you could just grab a ball
• 49:55
  Speaker 13: and you're above the rim and you just tip it down,
• 49:57
  Speaker 13: that's a pretty high, highly official shot, high percentage shots.
• 50:01
  Speaker 13: So we have guys who can go get those, and
• 50:04
  Speaker 13: we encourage you. We have a number of them in
• 50:07
  Speaker 13: our in our playbook and really try to Now the
• 50:10
  Speaker 13: key is not necessarily you do have to have somebody
• 50:13
  Speaker 13: with the athletic ability, but you have to have a passer.
• 50:16
  Speaker 4: You have to have a guy who can actually put
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: it there. But no, we we I'm a big fan.
• 50:21
  Speaker 4: How often do you practice allioops?
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: Is that kind of one part of one of the practices.
• 50:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think like they're in't like, hey, this is
• 50:27
  Speaker 4: an alley oops. Sell you out here?
• 50:29
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 50:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we don't do any of that.
• 50:31
  Speaker 13: But during the normal flow of just man, he here goes,
• 50:35
  Speaker 13: here goes player development, and here are guards practicing pick
• 50:40
  Speaker 13: and rolls.
• 50:41
  Speaker 4: Just hey, what are the reads? Where do you throw it?
• 50:43
  Speaker 4: When do I throw it? What's the timing?
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: All of that.
• 50:47
  Speaker 13: It's pretty organic, and then there are some some things
• 50:49
  Speaker 13: that are structured in order to get the same opportunity.
• 50:52
  Speaker 5: You talk about hyh percented shots. There's a coach like Nato.
• 50:54
  Speaker 5: It's at Alabama and notoriously they talk about how he
• 50:57
  Speaker 5: only wants shots near the basket or behind a three
• 51:00
  Speaker 5: point line, no real mid range. What is your philosophy
• 51:03
  Speaker 5: on the mid range? Well, I was just we were
• 51:05
  Speaker 5: talking this morning as a staff.
• 51:07
  Speaker 13: If you look at twenty thirteen, there's only two players
• 51:09
  Speaker 13: who have better than a fifty percent range from long twos.
• 51:14
  Speaker 13: Katie's one of them. Can you guess the other? Lebron No, No, Lebron,
• 51:19
  Speaker 13: Chris Paul, Chris Paul. So there are two hundred and
• 51:22
  Speaker 13: thirty three didn't go out of the time to guess, Coach.
• 51:26
  Speaker 11: I silent you.
• 51:27
  Speaker 5: Guys, I would have got that right, and coach you
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: put us on the spot.
• 51:30
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sorry.
• 51:30
  Speaker 13: I let you guys up and I saw the easy
• 51:32
  Speaker 13: trivia question that one, and I would have flunked, telling
• 51:36
  Speaker 13: y'all like twenty eight days in a month.
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: But going back to there's.
• 51:42
  Speaker 13: Only two and so what you you would what you
• 51:46
  Speaker 13: try to find out is what what are ways that
• 51:49
  Speaker 13: are quality mid range shot? Now I'm not anti mid
• 51:52
  Speaker 13: range whereas some coaches are.
• 51:55
  Speaker 10: I'm not.
• 51:55
  Speaker 13: I think there's value in it in certain responsibilities what
• 51:59
  Speaker 13: we would call pushdowns, being able to get close to
• 52:02
  Speaker 13: the guards, basically posting people up through the dribble, and
• 52:08
  Speaker 13: I think those are highly percentage shots. I think if
• 52:10
  Speaker 13: you can get ball screen twos, man, I can get
• 52:13
  Speaker 13: to the elbow, which is what Chris Paul does a lot.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: If you have guys.
• 52:17
  Speaker 13: But we show our guys their numbers and we ask
• 52:20
  Speaker 13: them to be if you take these twos, you need
• 52:22
  Speaker 13: to be able to make over fifty percent. So we
• 52:24
  Speaker 13: show them their numbers pretty much after at least every day,
• 52:29
  Speaker 13: if not every other day, so they're well aware of
• 52:32
  Speaker 13: it and if it's efficient, we're going.
• 52:34
  Speaker 10: To do it.
• 52:35
  Speaker 4: But I'm not anti middlegame.
• 52:37
  Speaker 5: We have three final questions for you taking over this program.
• 52:41
  Speaker 5: You come and is a culture change that you have
• 52:44
  Speaker 5: brought in? Is it, you know, a culture elevation from
• 52:47
  Speaker 5: what's been here? Like when you come into a new program,
• 52:49
  Speaker 5: don't have to be here, could be ru wherever. Like
• 52:51
  Speaker 5: what is your mindset when you go into a new place? Yeah,
• 52:54
  Speaker 5: it's the people. You know, there's nothing magical about any
• 52:58
  Speaker 5: specific school. Just because you have a certain jersey on
• 53:02
  Speaker 5: on the front of it doesn't mean you're going to win.
• 53:04
  Speaker 5: The people have to matter. So whatever it is that
• 53:07
  Speaker 5: we can do in order to help the people. So,
• 53:10
  Speaker 5: you know, when I got to hear the guys asked
• 53:13
  Speaker 5: for PlayStations, it's like, hey, we don't have PS fives
• 53:17
  Speaker 5: And I was like, dundal, you know, they had an
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: older refrigerator and I just came in and said, man,
• 53:23
  Speaker 5: we need to get a newer refrigerator. And so some
• 53:25
  Speaker 5: of it's just like how do we help the players.
• 53:28
  Speaker 5: And so in my mind, let's get the right people.
• 53:31
  Speaker 5: Let's get the right people in here, and then how
• 53:34
  Speaker 5: do we help them? Like, what are the things that
• 53:35
  Speaker 5: we can do to help them? I mean, again, everybody
• 53:38
  Speaker 5: talks about well, you need to have excellence in all things.
• 53:41
  Speaker 13: I just think you're not going to have the best
• 53:43
  Speaker 13: of everything, but you do need to take excellent care
• 53:47
  Speaker 13: of what you are stewarded with. And for us, that's
• 53:50
  Speaker 13: the people. We want to take excellent care of them
• 53:53
  Speaker 13: and make sure we have the right guys in the
• 53:55
  Speaker 13: locker room. From a character standpoint, and that's kind of
• 53:59
  Speaker 13: how you make strides.
• 54:01
  Speaker 4: Coach.
• 54:01
  Speaker 3: We were talking about fishing a second ago before we
• 54:03
  Speaker 3: started here. What do you like about fishing? Because I
• 54:05
  Speaker 3: was talking to my wife she asked me, and I said,
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like the lottery.
• 54:08
  Speaker 4: You know, you kind of just go in.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: You don't know you're gonna hit it or not. You
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: don't know if they're gonna bite or not. But some
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: days you get a good one.
• 54:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah, what do you like? So you're familiar with live scope?
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Ever heard this turbine fishing?
• 54:20
  Speaker 8: All right?
• 54:20
  Speaker 4: So this is a video game, all right?
• 54:23
  Speaker 13: So on your boat is a TV and you can
• 54:26
  Speaker 13: see them and you can see them swimming down there,
• 54:29
  Speaker 13: and you kind of know and you're basically going up
• 54:33
  Speaker 13: and throwing the minto or sounds like cheating. Listen, you
• 54:37
  Speaker 13: can't get them to bite. As I tell people, it
• 54:41
  Speaker 13: doesn't mean they're gonna bite. They may have just had
• 54:43
  Speaker 13: a steak dinner, all right, and they had shad all night,
• 54:47
  Speaker 13: and all of a sudden, if you just give them
• 54:49
  Speaker 13: a snickers, they don't want it. So having the things
• 54:54
  Speaker 13: necessary to help them is important.
• 54:57
  Speaker 4: Can I get a water?
• 54:58
  Speaker 5: I'm giving it for those they can't see. I'm going
• 55:00
  Speaker 5: coach the Heimlich right now. I'm saving his life. You guys,
• 55:02
  Speaker 5: their only listen to the audio this, I got you.
• 55:04
  Speaker 5: There he goes, Yep, got him. I just saved his
• 55:07
  Speaker 5: life for everybody watching. Oh there you okay, Okay, good Patty.
• 55:11
  Speaker 3: I think he's breathing.
• 55:12
  Speaker 10: He's breathing.
• 55:12
  Speaker 5: Now he's save Okay, there is eddie mouth mouth.
• 55:16
  Speaker 4: Okay, give him there he go. Coach, open up, all right,
• 55:18
  Speaker 4: I'm coming in.
• 55:19
  Speaker 2: All right, there he is.
• 55:20
  Speaker 5: Now you can't pass. Your life is being saved. Can
• 55:22
  Speaker 5: you imagine you're gonna save someone's life in his No? No, no,
• 55:26
  Speaker 5: we're good, Please not you last question?
• 55:28
  Speaker 11: All right?
• 55:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah, all good?
• 55:29
  Speaker 5: Because I was having some of those peanuts too, and
• 55:31
  Speaker 5: I got a little bit of that. I thought I
• 55:32
  Speaker 5: was gonna sue. But if it's happening here, Uh So,
• 55:36
  Speaker 5: you don't sit down when you coach, or at least
• 55:38
  Speaker 5: I've never seen you sit down. I know you had
• 55:39
  Speaker 5: the injury that kept you from, uh continue your basketball career?
• 55:42
  Speaker 5: Is that why you don't sit down? Because you're back
• 55:43
  Speaker 5: You're vertebrae bad back.
• 55:45
  Speaker 13: Like and then all of a sudden, if you just
• 55:47
  Speaker 13: jump up at the last second because somebody makes a
• 55:50
  Speaker 13: good player a bad play, then I really feel it.
• 55:52
  Speaker 13: So it's it's easier for me to stand there. There's
• 55:56
  Speaker 13: a coach who I used to spend my summers with
• 55:58
  Speaker 13: named Rick Majeris.
• 56:00
  Speaker 4: He would stand all the time.
• 56:01
  Speaker 5: You would you hang out Rick with Jerris?
• 56:03
  Speaker 13: I love rings, Yeah, yeah, And when he passed away,
• 56:07
  Speaker 13: he was just so supportive of me and helped me
• 56:10
  Speaker 13: a ton. But he couldn't sit down because of his weight.
• 56:14
  Speaker 13: He was just so big and it was hard for
• 56:16
  Speaker 13: him sometimes. But for me, Uh I did. I cracked
• 56:19
  Speaker 13: my bottom vertebrae on my spine, and if I set
• 56:22
  Speaker 13: in bleachers or I sit anywhere too long, my back
• 56:25
  Speaker 13: can lock up. And so It's just best that it
• 56:28
  Speaker 13: doesn't happen in front of ten thousand people, so I
• 56:32
  Speaker 13: just stay standing the whole game.
• 56:33
  Speaker 5: I should get you like one of those sleep numbers
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: that we have that brings your back up. You know
• 56:39
  Speaker 5: who had that was Phil Jackson. Phil Jackson had one
• 56:41
  Speaker 5: of those bigger chairs than everybody that really helped him
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: with his back. So I could get one of those
• 56:46
  Speaker 5: where you press a button and then it just kind
• 56:48
  Speaker 5: of lifts you.
• 56:50
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 56:50
  Speaker 4: Perfect, and yeah, that would be That would be the coach.
• 56:53
  Speaker 4: We really appreciate the time. Good luck with the program.
• 56:56
  Speaker 5: I know everybody's excited about having you here, and by everybody,
• 56:58
  Speaker 5: I mean Eddie and I. We don't to anybody else
• 57:01
  Speaker 5: saying bubble, thanks for having.
• 57:02
  Speaker 4: Us, Eddie, Bobby, thank you guys for coming. Thank you coach.
• 57:06
  Speaker 5: All right now, this is us talking with which TOAs
• 57:08
  Speaker 5: state assistant coach Quincy ac Quincy played four Coach Mills
• 57:11
  Speaker 5: at Baylor eight to twenty twelve. When coach Mills was
• 57:14
  Speaker 5: assistant there draft in the second round of the twenty
• 57:16
  Speaker 5: twelve NBA by the Raptors, and he took us through
• 57:18
  Speaker 5: some drills which you can watch on Too Much Access
• 57:21
  Speaker 5: and here he is.
• 57:22
  Speaker 2: It's just talking NBA, which is cool with Quincy ac coach.
• 57:25
  Speaker 5: If you saw us walking in the gym and like
• 57:26
  Speaker 5: we were here to try out, look exactly like.
• 57:29
  Speaker 10: This first glance. Well, if you hear that means you
• 57:32
  Speaker 10: you you want to be exactly that's the most important thing.
• 57:35
  Speaker 10: So that's half the battle. You want to be here.
• 57:37
  Speaker 10: I can, I can. I can work with that.
• 57:39
  Speaker 7: Okay, But what's the other half, because you probably think
• 57:41
  Speaker 7: the other half.
• 57:41
  Speaker 10: Is you know, a lot of hat on. You know,
• 57:44
  Speaker 10: I don't know if the shoes are tied all the way.
• 57:46
  Speaker 10: I don't know if you guys will be ready, you know.
• 57:47
  Speaker 7: Don't my shooes aren't type Yeah it has a strap.
• 57:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, and I don't know.
• 57:51
  Speaker 7: These are ones without shoes, Okay, I see, yes.
• 57:54
  Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, I don't know how that will hold up.
• 57:57
  Speaker 10: You know, somebody has some nice.
• 57:59
  Speaker 7: Handle, but I don't have any of that nice handle.
• 58:01
  Speaker 3: Nothing.
• 58:01
  Speaker 10: We'll get you right.
• 58:02
  Speaker 7: Whenever when you're in the league, do you get free shoes?
• 58:06
  Speaker 10: Yes, either you're responsored by a company, Nike, Adidas, whatever
• 58:11
  Speaker 10: or whatever. The league is sponsored by Nike Adidas. They
• 58:14
  Speaker 10: have shoes.
• 58:15
  Speaker 7: It's unlimited.
• 58:16
  Speaker 10: I mean to a certain extent.
• 58:18
  Speaker 7: In two k you can choose who you are.
• 58:20
  Speaker 10: Yes, it's not that easy.
• 58:24
  Speaker 7: I left coins.
• 58:25
  Speaker 10: I mean they give you money, but it's not really
• 58:27
  Speaker 10: I guess it's VC virtual currencies. You don't really see this.
• 58:31
  Speaker 5: All currencies virtual that's in a bank in ant number.
• 58:34
  Speaker 5: How has it been adjusting to not being that dude?
• 58:38
  Speaker 5: But now you've got to be this dude, the coach,
• 58:39
  Speaker 5: that's the leader, not the player.
• 58:40
  Speaker 10: Yeah. I mean it's a big ego check. You know,
• 58:42
  Speaker 10: that's a that's the main thing. Check your ego at
• 58:44
  Speaker 10: the door every day. Realize that these these dudes don't
• 58:47
  Speaker 10: care about what you did in the past. You know,
• 58:49
  Speaker 10: they want to know how can you help them and
• 58:51
  Speaker 10: if you care enough about them. So that's the biggest adjustment.
• 58:54
  Speaker 10: But I mean it comes naturally. My mom was a teacher,
• 58:56
  Speaker 10: My grandmother was a teacher, So I get a great
• 58:59
  Speaker 10: joy out of its.
• 59:00
  Speaker 7: Coaching always what you wanted to do after you finish
• 59:02
  Speaker 7: your playing career.
• 59:03
  Speaker 10: Yes, I think so. My mom she kind of she
• 59:05
  Speaker 10: spotted it early. She told me I would be a coach,
• 59:08
  Speaker 10: but I think it took a longer time for me
• 59:10
  Speaker 10: to accept it. And then once injuries kind of started
• 59:12
  Speaker 10: piling up. I had to kind of accept it a
• 59:14
  Speaker 10: little quicker.
• 59:15
  Speaker 5: When you're a professional and you are getting injuries, do
• 59:17
  Speaker 5: you want to not have people know you have injuries
• 59:20
  Speaker 5: so they don't know to move you down the bench
• 59:22
  Speaker 5: or off the team.
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: You try to like get through it, not even fake it,
• 59:25
  Speaker 7: but just try not to make it a thing.
• 59:26
  Speaker 10: No, definitely, definitely try to tough through it because I
• 59:28
  Speaker 10: mean there are people right behind you waiting to take
• 59:30
  Speaker 10: your spot, so you know, you have to have a
• 59:33
  Speaker 10: high pain tolerance and try to muscle through some stuff.
• 59:36
  Speaker 3: All these assistant coaches sitting back there, like what's your
• 59:39
  Speaker 3: job during the game. Do you focusing on a player
• 59:41
  Speaker 3: or are you looking at something specific?
• 59:43
  Speaker 10: Yeah, so I'm kind of looking at it all. You know.
• 59:45
  Speaker 10: The coaches on the front of the bench, we're all
• 59:46
  Speaker 10: kind of have an eye for everything. If it's your scout,
• 59:49
  Speaker 10: looking for play calls, looking for tendencies with the players
• 59:52
  Speaker 10: that's on the court, and a lot of the guys
• 59:54
  Speaker 10: behind the bench they have different roles. You know, they
• 59:56
  Speaker 10: have hustle points after time out plays, you know, it's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 10: a playthrough of different things.
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 5: But I get a lot of hustle points point I
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 5: scored that That's what I do. Yeah, like one hundred
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 5: hustle points and zero game point.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 10: You can make a living that, Yeah, exactly.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 5: The transition from playing the NBA to coaching at college
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 5: like baseline sideline, like there are a lot of different
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 5: things that you can and can't do and both. So
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 5: was it natural to come back and coach in college?
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 5: You have to kind of re learn the rules because
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 5: there are some small differences.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 10: Yeah, it's a lot of difference. It's actually there's not
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 10: as many sideline out of bounds plays as it is
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 10: in the NBA. You know, it's just more so kind
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 10: of get the ball in. There's no defensive three seconds
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 10: in the NBA, so you know, you can plan to
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 10: attack a lot differently. So you know, it's an adjustment
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 10: and I want to come back to kind of like
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 10: you said, kind of go back to the grassrooms to
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 10: learn the ins and out is what it is. I'm
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 10: looking for in players. What do young talent look like nowadays?
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 8: You know?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 10: So, yes, college was a great choice for me.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 7: What do people see in you as an eighteen nineteen
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 7: year old player.
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 10: I think that passion, they see that I played, They
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 10: see that I care. I come out here, I kind
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 10: of talk a little trash, you know, they can relate
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 10: a little bit. And I've done what they've done or
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 10: trying to do, you know what I mean. So I've
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 10: been through all the spoils, all of the hard times.
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 10: I know what it looks like, and I have a
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 10: different perspective. You know, it's a different I from the
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 10: sideline as it than it is when you're on the court,
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 10: you know, So I can kind of give them that perspective.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 5: What coach saw you at eighteen nineteen and invested a
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 5: lot in you to make sure that you be the
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 5: guy to go to next level.
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 10: Coach Mills the head coach here. You know, he recruited
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 10: me at Baylor when I was fifteen, and you know
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 10: he was responsible for rebounding all my bricks that I
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 10: was shooting up in college and we just built a
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 10: great relationship. But he saw it early, you know, he
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 10: saw the competitiveness, the passion, and the skill. He knew
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 10: that that would come along, you know with just what
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 10: hard work. Fifteen yeah, fifteen years old.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 7: How many star recruit were you?
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 10: I think I was a four star recruit.
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 7: You don't remember, I know, I'd have a tattooed Onmber.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 10: In the middle star. Yeah, that would be.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: I'd be so proud of it.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: I mean, I want to dance with the Start, and
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 5: I got a mirrorball trophy on my arm somewhere there,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: so if I had Start, it'd be like.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 11: All the way up and dancing with the starts.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: You believe that, you know, look at me like pure athlete.
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 10: I don't never judge the book by scope.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 7: That's right, you know, but that could also be interpreted
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 7: as an insult because that's how you look at exactly
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 7: how you look at it.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 3: Coach, what do you do with a player that's just
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: kind of you know, not really just moving as hard
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: as you should or playing as far as you should, Like,
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 3: how do you motivate someone like that?
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean each player is different, you know, different
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 10: things kind of gets different players going. Some guys you
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 10: can kind of challenge, Some guys you can kind of
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 10: call out in front of everybody. Some guys you got
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 10: to kind of go up and see what's going on
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 10: behind closed doors. It's different for each guy, and you know,
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 10: you have to really be careful, you know, because if
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 10: you yell at a guy that doesn't respond well to that.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 10: You know, now he shuts down and now you can't
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 10: get anything out of him. So you know, it is
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 10: it's a learning curve and that aspect.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 5: You know, when you're playing in the league, who was
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: the hardest guy that you had to guard?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 10: I tell people that my toughest matchup was when I
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 10: was with the New York Knicks going against LaMarcus Audridge.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 10: He was in the contract year.
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 7: So he's trying real hard.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, a lot more to play for, and I
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 10: think the Knicks were interested in him, so it was
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 10: even more. I think he probably scored on me seven
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 10: times in a row, not seven points, like seven times.
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 7: And points point.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 10: These were real baskets, So that that gave me my
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 10: toughest matchup. But overall, you know, guys like lebron kd
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 10: you know, they're just so big and so skilled. It's
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 10: so hard to guard them.
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 5: You play with Carmelo in New York, I did so
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 5: Carmela could shoot. Carmelo was big, Like what what what
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: was he like as a teammate and what was it?
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 5: That's a rare combination at least. Then now guys are
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 5: getting a lot bigger with a lot more ball skills
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 5: at able to shoot a lot better like that. He
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 5: I mean, he's kind of a That was a very
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 5: rare thing from Carmelo or playing Syracuse.
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: What was that dude like to play with?
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 10: Carmelo Man? I saw him this summer at the Top
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 10: one hundred camp. His son was there, so I got
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 10: a chance to kind of catch up with him. Great dude,
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 10: great teammate. Off the court, just unbelievable and on the court,
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 10: I mean, he's just a competitor. You know, he's gonna
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 10: he's gonna make you feel him whenever you guard him.
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 10: You know, he's always bumping you, pulling on You've heard
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 10: all the recordings of you know, how he talks when
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 10: he's getting the rebounds and stuff. So that's just who
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 10: he is. You know, He's a competitor and just a
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 10: great guy.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: Said the Pelicans try to get it back this year
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 5: after after he recover. What if they call what if
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 5: the Pelicans called you today? Can you give us ten games?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: Coach?
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 7: What about seventy? Could you give him seventy seventy?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 10: My body would break down for sure.
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: Two final questions, best shooter that you've ever played with
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: or against against?
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 10: Steph Curry. What's that like?
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 7: Is he just is he just non stop?
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 10: He doesn't stop moving? It was I was in the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 10: same game.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 11: It was.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 10: I think it was when Clay was kind of going
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 10: back and forth with Omary cast but it was just
• 1:05:01
  Speaker 10: like mad shot. Clay made a shot, made shot, Steph
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 10: made a shot. It was the about six trips back
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 10: and forth with nobody missed. Craziest thing I've ever been
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 10: a part of. And then the best shooter I've played with.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 10: I gotta say Dirk Whiskey, but Steve Novak is very
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 10: high on that list. He was a sniper, you know.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 10: I mean it was no no meat on that or
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 10: no fat on that shot. You know, he straight to
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 10: it and it's all net.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, you're all fat. Yeah you heard him wrong,
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 5: you heard them wrong. Last question, As a coach, what
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 5: are you about? Like just just straight up like, what
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 5: are you about.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 10: As a coach?
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 8: Uh?
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 10: I mean competitiveness Like when I played, I was just competitiveness, competitive.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 10: I just had a will to win, you know that
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 10: couldn't be matched in my opinion, And you know that's
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 10: kind of what I try to bring out of these guys.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 10: Is there everybody you know, everybody has a level of
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 10: competition and a level if they don't want to lose
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 10: or whatever in them, and it's just on you as
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 10: a coach to figure out ways to bring it out
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 10: of you know. So that's what I'm about, you know,
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 10: just toughness, greediness.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 7: I'm perfect for you.
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 4: Then there we go.
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 10: I will to win.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: I never win, but I have a will.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 11: I have a willeck.
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 7: You've just been with the wrong right, That's it.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: Last step is guard Xavier Bell.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 5: Bell spent his first two years a Drexel before coming
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 5: back to Kansas to play for the Shockers.
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 2: Super nice guy.
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 5: You can keep up with Xavier on Instagram at one
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 5: of one XB here he is Xavier Bell.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 7: How many shots you think you get up a day?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 10: Save?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 8: Uh A good two point fifty just.
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 5: Regardless, Like at least gonna get two fifty in. Yeah,
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 5: Eddie was trying to shoot a thousand today.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 11: I got to forty seven.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 7: I got he got tired. Yeah, So it's any advice
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 7: you'd like to give him.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 14: I just keep going, man, I think forty seven. You're
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 14: in chipping away a little bit. So you got tiny chips, yeah,
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 14: eight chips.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 5: Yeah. So we were looking at some of your numbers
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: this year right now, I averaged about fifteen game. Do
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: you know where you are point wise during a game?
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 5: Are you just playing or do you catch up in
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: between halves?
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 14: They kind of showed on our scoreboard every game, so
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 14: I kind of look up from time to time, but
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 14: for the most part, I don't really try and get
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 14: too caught up in that.
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 8: I kind of just want to help our team.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 7: If you're feeling it, does the bucket feel huge?
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: Does it feel like you can't Are there those moments
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 5: where you're like, man, I don't know if I can miss.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 14: Yeah, I feel like the person in front of me
• 1:07:23
  Speaker 14: is having a rough night. So I like to just keep,
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 14: you know, keep going on that.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 5: So can you ever identify that before game or is
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: that always in game when you kind of feel like
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 5: you're in the zone.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 14: I try and get my mind right before the game,
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 14: you know, kind of come in with the right attitudes.
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 14: You know, it's not really who I'm going against, is
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 14: really what I can do, So just kind of focus
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 14: on that, just keep going.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 5: For sure, in baseball, if you're throwing really good before
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 5: the game and the ballpen, that's kind of a bad sign.
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 5: If you're shooting and you're making everything and shoot around
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: now in basketball, is that good or does that not
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 5: matter at all?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 10: I think it's good.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 14: It kind of puts a little bit more confidence in
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 14: my head already than what already's in there. So I
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 14: would say a little bit. Sometimes I don't know. I
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 14: don't like to make a lot just so that way
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 14: I go in them.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, exactly, go in the game, start missing, get
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 8: in my head a little bit more so the stuff
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 8: like that.
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 11: It's playing on the road much harder.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 10: Is it just the same game?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 14: I would say, it's kind of it's more fun just
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 14: to be able to go into someone else's environment, try
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 14: and give them your best and hopefully shut up their crowd.
• 1:08:23
  Speaker 5: So, yeah, what's the best road wind you've ever had?
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 5: I mean, it just felt good, like that baby has
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: some candy and you walked in it. Took the spreeze
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 5: by the other hand and ate them all.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 14: We played a really good game against Tulane last year
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 14: at Tulane, I would say, so that was probably a
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 14: good a good road win for us.
• 1:08:43
  Speaker 5: I would say, what's the game where you felt collegiately
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 5: most in the zone, Even if you hadn't scored the
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 5: most points, like you felt even your passes were super crisp.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 8: I would say, so it wasn't here.
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 14: I was at an old school, but I scored thirty
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 14: in a game, and I think the flow was just
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 14: it was just in nature, just keep getting to the buckets.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 8: So that was that was probably my best one for sure.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 5: Is it like Harry Potter or you don't see the
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 5: guy's name, like what's the guy's name in Harry Potter Baltimore?
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 7: Is it like you don't say the school the old school?
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 6: Yeah, like Baltimore that don't exist exactly.
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 3: What's it like being an elite athlete in college? Like
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: my college is like we just parted.
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 8: It's a it's a grind.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 14: I think you gotta wake up every day, you know,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 14: with the right attitude, right mindset, weights, classes, practice as well,
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 14: but just making sure you're putting your best foot forward
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 14: and whatever it is that you do.
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: So, But do you get to have fun like you
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 3: get to enjoy college?
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 8: Yeah? Yeah, of course.
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 14: You know there's off days you kind of you're able
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 14: to unwind or relax, you know, catch up with old friends,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 14: stuff like that family that's closed by I'm from here,
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 14: so my family's close. But I would say it's nothing,
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 14: nothing too taxing, especially since I've been doing the sport
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 14: my whole life.
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 5: Can you hear your family in the stands since they've
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 5: always been with you and you know their voices?
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 14: Nah, but I know where they are, so I like
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 14: to I like to look over at them from time
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 14: to time, for sure, my dad especially, but for the
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 14: most part, you definitely can't hear.
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 5: That's got to be exciting though, for your family to
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 5: be able to just drive down the road absolutely like
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 5: that had to mean a lot to you to come
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 5: play here too.
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 8: It, did you know?
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 14: I went to a school that was about twenty hours
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 14: away right out of high school, so it was kind
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 14: of tough for them to get to a bunch of games.
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 14: But once I was transferred back and everything, it was
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 14: it was super cool just to see them at all
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 14: the games that they can come to.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 7: Yeah Baltimore you oh right, yeah to Baltimore. Yeah yea yeah,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 7: yeah yeah right.
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 3: Like you talk about your dad, like, is it hard
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 3: to tell your dad like that, I'm at another level now,
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: Like I got coaches at Oh you know what I.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 8: Mean with me is that we got coached.
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 14: That's funny you said that, because when I first transferred
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 14: back last year, me and my dad kind of got
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 14: into it early because he was just so big.
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 8: On getting in the gym with me doing this, doing that.
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 8: I'm like, well, I have coaches now who do that
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 8: for me.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 14: And he's like, well, you know, you can never get
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 14: away from the basics, and I'm like, I understand that,
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 14: but it's just a different level that you got to
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 14: kind of do it at now. So it was tough
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 14: at first, but I think he's got acquainted to it.
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 11: Just like I have.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 5: So if you wanted to shoot around here, could you
• 1:11:06
  Speaker 5: come in at any time and shoot in the gym?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah. So, and the coach staff we have now and
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 8: everything too.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 14: They have a lot of gas on staff who rebound
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 14: for us, you know, get in the gym whenever we're
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 14: available and all that. So I like to come in
• 1:11:15
  Speaker 14: in the morning before class just to get it out
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 14: the way and then maybe shoot after practice and everything.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 5: So somebody to rebound for you, that'll be awesome. Yeah,
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: they've worked a lot harder for us than him.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 10: That'd be chasing.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 5: We too, We want to chasing. Yeah, what would your
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 5: teammates say about you. If we asked him and you
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 5: weren't around, and we said, you know, what's daber all about?
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 7: What would they say about you?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 10: Just the right things.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 14: I would just say, you know, trying to be the
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 14: best leader I can. Obviously I'm not a leader in
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 14: everyone's eyes, but I just try and do the right
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 14: thing that I know is right for my team and
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 14: for everybody around me as well.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 7: All right, last three questions. Do you ever play yourself
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 7: into shape?
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 5: Is that a thing? Or do you get in shape
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 5: and you play yourself in a better shape?
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 8: I would say you play yourself in a better shape,
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 8: you know.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 14: I think coaches do a really good job off season,
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 14: you know, kind of repairing you for those type of runs,
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 14: those type of different environments. But I don't think it's
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 14: up until you get that first win going up against
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 14: someone who's also been preparing at that same level as you,
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 14: that you're like, okay, this is what I need to
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 14: pick it up to now. So then day in and
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 14: day out, that's where you're just trying to get better
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 14: and better at you get a two K. No, I
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 14: don't play, nah I have I haven't bought the new
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 14: two K I know I'm gonna get crap for that time.
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's the same though. It's like every year is
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 8: the same.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 14: I've heard twenty four is the best one yet, but
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  Speaker 14: I hear that every single time a new two K
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 14: comes out.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, but you got court knowledge, you got you know
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: what you're doing, so when you play the game, you
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: just dominate.
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  Speaker 8: My friends would tell you otherwise, but I'm gonna tell
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  Speaker 8: you yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, mid range. How you feel about midrange?
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 10: I like it.
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  Speaker 14: I don't take a lot of them. I shoot a
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  Speaker 14: lot of floaters more than just pull up mid ranges.
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  Speaker 14: But I actually like that part of the game. I
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 14: think it's a lost art, but it's really good. It's
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 14: appealing to me. I would say, you ever don't have
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 14: I ever done?
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  Speaker 8: Do you ever?
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  Speaker 10: Don't?
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 8: Not since the season started, But I've dunked this year?
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  Speaker 11: Yeah?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, only breakaway or you ever put it on somebody?
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 8: It was on somebody?
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 7: This find that clip?
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  Speaker 11: Hard?
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  Speaker 4: Is it to not hang on the rim like when
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 4: it's a good dug?
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, it's I would say, it's all about you've never
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 8: dunk in your life?
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  Speaker 7: How do you know that's right?
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 8: You step on the back, I would say, it's all
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 8: about momentum.
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  Speaker 14: So like two hands, it's probably harder not to hang
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  Speaker 14: on the rim, but one hand, I think it's all
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 14: about just getting off the rim and then letting the
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 14: dude know that you just dunked on them and everything.
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 5: How would you let him know without the rest knowing?
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 5: You let him know, because if you let him know,
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 5: if you stand over them like I do something.
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I would say its word choice is
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 8: what I would say. Word choice.
• 1:13:48
  Speaker 14: So I don't like to you know, I'm not gonna
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 14: say what I would say on camera. Uh the clip
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 14: that they got me this year, they got what I
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 14: said on camera.
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 7: But okay, we'll say words and then you tell us
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 7: if it's the word.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 2: I'll go first. You're satisfactory, good dude?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 10: Was that it? Yeah?
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 2: Okay that I thought that was I Yeah, that was good.
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 7: We appreciate you, appreciate you have a great season. I
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 7: hope you're healthy, and uh, this is this is for
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 7: Xavier right here. I would have been awesome.
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  Speaker 2: All right, all right, that's it the final whistles. I
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 2: got football cards here to give away just for that.
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 3: Okay, are we gonna do that?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 8: Ed?
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 2: Do you get a Malik Willis. Yeah, Titans, I'll take it.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: I like it liberty, dude.
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 2: Read You get an Amari Cooper cool?
• 1:14:37
  Speaker 3: That is why did you give him the Amari one?
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 2: Hit him drawn Eddie, you get Kevin You get a
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 2: Denzel Mims. Okay, you know what your team plays for? Uh,
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: you don't about it? Jacks Jaguars.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 6: Oh, I would not have guessed that.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 10: Mike.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 2: You get a Kyler Murray.
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 10: I'll take it.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 11: A good one.
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 2: Uh, it's a Tayshaun Gibson that's reads read on and
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 2: then I have this.
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna keep this. NBA Hoops Rookie Special Asar Thompson.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: That's worth anything like oh, I played for the Pistons.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 5: Now he does. He was drafted first round. Okay, it's
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 5: rookie special Thompson. You saw that from over there.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, I got camera no no, no, my eyes.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 2: I got Lacy. It's a Panini ten Bucks. This one
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 2: goes to do you want to mic?
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 6: What the your daddy?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 3: Okay, guys, it's gonna go straight to my kids.
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 5: Don't act and have you got you can do whatever
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 5: you want all these I don't even care you open
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 5: a new pack.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: I got a new pack. Here we're gonna open this
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 2: first one is a Brett fav rookie card. You gotta
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 2: get this to read. Yeah, Brett Favara fa Okay, here
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 2: we go. We got a Matthew Barry draft card.
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 3: Is cary interesting?
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 5: We got a first overall nineteen eighty five Bruce Smith,
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 5: whoa man the bills. We got an all American Caleb
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 5: Williams draft card.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 3: That's gonna be something.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 5: We got a draft card, uh brought Bowers? Did this
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 5: needna be worth a nickel or a thousand dollars?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Mike could have lied to me just
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 2: to get the card.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 5: And then a Bijhon Robinson. They can't put the long
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 5: horn on there. They wiped the long corn off, but
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 5: touchdown King's card.
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: They didn't pay for the licensing. I guess not.
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 2: Hey you been there?
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, you know what that's like.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: Hey, what's the deal?
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 6: Still waiting, but we're making progress. We're moving along, waiting
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 6: and waiting, and.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: We're waking progress and waiting and waiting.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 6: Okay, Yeah, last I heard is double checking again.
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 2: He just sent me something if you want to use
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: this during the episode. He sent to me right now,
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 2: I just saw it. I just like he literally sent
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: some material right now as we're ending it.
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 10: What was it?
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 5: This will be Super Bowl fifty eight. If you had
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 5: five and eight together, you get thirteen, Taylor Swift, San FRANSCOO.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 5: Forty nine ers are playing in the game? Four nine
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 5: at it together?
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: Or thirteen Taylor Swift read?
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: Are you Taylor conspiracy person?
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 2: I just saw this.
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 5: I was like, forty nine Ers the one seed in
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 5: the NFC, while the Chiefs are the three seed in
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: the AFC. Thirteen they're just they're cherry picking things equal thirteen,
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 5: They're not every number from everything. Taylor Swift, to schedule,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 5: took a plane from a concert in Tokyo to Las Vegas.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 5: The flat time from Tokyo to Las Vegas is roughly
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 5: thirteen thirteen hours.
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: Roughly.
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 5: I guess if Swift does indeed make it a game,
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 5: this will be her thirteen appearance at a Kan City
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 5: Chiefs game this season. Come on, to date, the Super
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 5: Bowl February eleventh, twenty twenty four. Two and eleven added
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 5: together is thirteen.
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 3: Wait what this is crazy?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 8: Wait?
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 2: The date of the Super Bowl is February. Oh, gat
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 2: got him?
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 5: If you subtract thirteen from one hundred, you get eighty seven,
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 5: which is a Jersey number of Swiss boyfriend.
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 3: That's true, so stupid.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 2: No, no, that's so bad. I did want to use
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 2: in the episode. Thank you buddy. Yeah, man, thank you.
• 1:17:46
  Speaker 3: You get a false star that's a five yard penalty interview, and.
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 2: Then and you get eight.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 6: After a touchdown.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 5: Then yeah, was thirteen and we talked about Dan Marino
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 5: earlier who thirteen?
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, woown.
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 2: Possibly be our final episode. Thank you guys for listening.
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Hey, I love you guys.
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: If this is our last.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 5: I've not heard from Kevin during this, but Eddie, you
• 1:18:11
  Speaker 5: gotta give us one good blow before we end.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Oh, I'll give you my best blow here is mister
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 2: go ahead.
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 6: Wow, nice job, dude.
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: That good That camera crews like what just happened in there.
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 7: That's awesome.
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 2: All right, it's been a real treat. Thank you guys.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: Maybe we'll see you next week. We probably won't, We
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 1:18:28
  Speaker 3: I love you, guys.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 5: It's like when a show goes to after they finish
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 5: their season and they wait to be picked up or not,
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 5: and they just wait wait by their phones.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll let you guys know already at twenty five whistles.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 2: That's our deal there. We'll see you guys soon or
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 2: we won't.
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 7: Bye, everybody,