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Tom Morello: Riffs sind Familiensache · STAR FM Rocktalk

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  Hi, hier ist Simon und willkommen beim Starfm Rocktalk.
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  Hier bei uns im Sender geben sich die Rockstars quasi die Klinke in die Hand.
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  Und wir setzen sie selbstverständlich sofort vors Mikrofon.
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  Hier geht's um alles. Neue Platten, alte Geschichten und unvergessliche Momente.
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  Und vor ein paar Monaten, da hatten wir jemanden, der wirklich so eine richtige
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  Legende ist. Tom Morello.
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  Und zwar war der Rage Against the Machine Tausendsasser kurz vor einem Konzert
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  mit seiner Solo-Band hier bei uns im Sender.
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  Und zu der Zeit war sein kommendes Solo-Album Everyone Gets Everything They
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  Want noch strengstens geheim.
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  Uns gab der Gitarren-Genius dennoch einen exklusiven Einblick in seine erste richtige Soloscheibe.
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  Im Zuge dessen hat uns Tom ordentlich was von seinem Sohn Roman vorgeschwärmt,
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  der nämlich ebenfalls prominent auf der Platte vertreten ist.
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  Aber auch erklärt, was Authentizität in der Kunst für ihn bedeutet und er hat
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  uns ein bisschen was von seinen nicht ganz legalen Freizeitaktivitäten hier in Berlin erzählt.
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  Also, viel Spaß beim Rocktalk mit Tom Morello.
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  Tom Morello, great to have you in our humble studio today.
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  It's a pleasure to be here. Always love being in Deutschland and Berlin,
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  one of my favorite cities to be in and one of my favorite cities to play.
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  And you just came back from a very busy weekend. You played the Twin Festivals
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  Rock am Ring, Rock im Park. Yes.
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  And now you're playing a headline show at the legendary SO36.
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  How was it to play those massive stages? Yes.
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  Well, I've been playing at Rock am Ring and Rock im Park for quite some time.
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  Played there with Rage Against the Machine, played there with Audioslave,
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  played there with Prophets of Rage, and now to play it as a solo artist was pretty amazing.
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  The crowd's enthusiasm has remained undiminished through the years and was really
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  to 90,000 people a day just going absolutely crazy.
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  It was so fulfilling to be able to rock those stages as a solo artist.
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  Und wirklich, die sind die größte Rock'n'Roll-Memories ich habe,
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  ever, waren wir in den letzten Jahren, und wir haben es dieses weekend geändert.
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  Aber jetzt, du bist in ein viel kleineres Jahr. Ich meine, So36 ist ein klassisch
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  Berlin Club, ich würde sagen. Es hat eine Reputation als die punkte Platz.
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  Great, ich bin richtig in.
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  Ich bin gespannt, dass ich das. Aber was sind deine Gefühle,
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  die große Städte zu kommen? coming from a huge stage. Sure, there's a couple
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  of principal differences.
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  One is this is a headlining show, so to be able to play all of the songs from
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  my history. I've made 21 records in my life, right? And so we honor the Rage
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  Against the Machine riffs. We honor Chris Cornell.
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  There's a lot of my solo material as well. But also one of the differences is
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  my son Roman will be joined.
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  He'll be his first. He just got out of school, so he missed the festivals last
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  week, but his first show will be with us tonight. Und wenn du nicht mit dem
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  kleinen Mann kennengelernt hast, ist er ein unglaublicher Mensch,
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  ich bin ein Proud Dad, aber er ist auch ein unglaublicher Wettbewerb.
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  Young Musician, we've also been composing together. We wrote a song with Serge
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  Tankian from System of a Down called Adjournit, which is the latest single from
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  my upcoming solo rock record.
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  And so this will be the European debut of that song with Roman and I tonight.
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  So this is the first time you're actually going to play this song live?
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  It's the first time with Roman tonight. We played it at the festivals.
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  Yeah, yeah, first time with the co-author, Roman, tonight.
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  So you already took it away a little bit. So you are working currently on new
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  music. There's new music coming out in autumn. Yeah.
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  We basically know nothing about it except that song. Maybe you can just tell
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  us a little bit what we can know. Well, this will be the 22nd record of my career,
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  but it will be the first solo Tom Morello rock album.
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  Over the course of the last five or six years, with my backup band,
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  the Freedom Fighter Orchestra, we've been playing all over the world.
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  Six continents worth of shows, embracing the totality of my career.
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  I love to play the Rage Against the Machine riffs. I love to honor Chris Cornell.
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  I love the Americana and the folk music of my Night Watchman thing.
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  And so that's been what the shows have been like. I wanted to make a record that reflected that.
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  Until this time, all the first 21 records have been in some ways very sort of
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  specifically oriented. This is a Rage record. This is a Prophets of Rage record.
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  This is an acoustic record.
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  This is an EDM-influenced record. I wanted to make a record that has all of
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  the power of the riffs that I am capable of.
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  All of the crazy guitar playing. A lyrical point of view that comes more from
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  the Dylan or Roger Waters world, you know.
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  And then with Roman Morello shredding his young ass off.
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  So is Roman going to be on all of the songs? No, I think probably about half. About half, yeah.
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  So what happens is, I'll tell you the process. So he practices a lot in his
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  room. Like I used to practice a lot.
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  Und wenn ich ein guter Riff aus dem Riff komme aus dem Riff, ich stehe es.
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  Und ich mache es in einem Song. Und mein, uh, der, der, der.
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  The way I look at it is, let the best riff win.
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  And if I've got a better riff, then I'll make that into a song.
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  And if he's got a better riff, then that's going to be the song.
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  And that's what happened with Adjournet. The song was Surge.
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  The main riff of that song was one that I heard him playing.
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  And I said, I think me and Surge could do something with that.
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  How does he feel about you stealing his riffs? I mean, he feels pretty good about it.
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  He's going to rock in front of about a million people this summer in Europe.
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  He feels pretty good about it.
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  But doesn't he want to have his own... Obviously, you share the same last name
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  and stuff, so it's technically 50% his.
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  But doesn't he want to have his own band and put it out under his name?
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  He certainly could, but he certainly is very creative within the confines of
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  this. And he's 15 years old as well, but this will be his third summer touring
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  with me. We did it since he was 13. We've toured together.
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  One, as a father, I'm very proud. Also, it's also a real pleasure to just to
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  have a kid in your band. Yeah, and if you have a band meeting and you disagree
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  on something, I can just send him to his room.
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  If you compare like his musical upbringing and how he ended up doing music,
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  if you compare it to yourself, you know, you start at a young age composing
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  music, writing music. I didn't start playing guitar until I was 17.
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  Oh, so he was like two years at Head Start. Well, he started when he was,
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  you know, nine, eight or nine. So, yeah, so he is considerable Head Start.
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  But yeah, I grew up on heavy metal. Metal was the music that made me love music, right?
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  And from there, it was a journey of other music that I thought was heavy.
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  It was punk, and then it was hip-hop, and then it was folk music,
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  which is heavy in its own way.
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  He's grown, and his brother, they've grown up,
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  Es ist wie es, dass es keine Tribal-Musik-Affiliation wie es gibt.
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  Du kannst du metal und du kannst du pop und du kannst du folk-musik und du kannst du whatever.
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  Und so es ist broader und es ist weniger judgmental in einer Weise,
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  das ist wirklich, wirklich nice. Ich denke, dass er ein Gary Moore-Solo ist
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  und dann er wird ein Mariah Carey-Song. Und zu ihm, es ist alles cool.
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  Aber er macht einen der Dinge,
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  you'll see on this record, and it's certainly the case with Adjournit,
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  is he has that Morello DNA where he writes riffs that feel like they're from
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  my wheelhouse, but they're riffs that I wouldn't have thought of.
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  So it's great to have a bandmate who's constantly coming with ideas,
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  so you go like, I wish I would have thought of that. How would you describe
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  the difference between your riffs and his riffs? Yeah.
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  Well, as guitar players, there's a main difference. He's a technical player
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  like like perhaps in 1986 i had the technique that he has now but he's got he's
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  got all you know he's already put in his 10 000 hours on that so he can he can shred his ass off.
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  Um the difference between our riffs i mean sometimes it's it's indistinguishable but,
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  i mean not he loves a big pentatonic riff in the,
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  in the mold of jimmy page in the mold of tony iomi in the mold of you know deep
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  purple like that's the wheelhouse of riffs that we mine except that he also
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  has the other references of Rage Against the Machine and Soundgarden and Tool etc.
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  As well to draw from. Do you think it's stressful for him to have such a watchful
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  eye as one of the most legendary guitarists as I might say?
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  The last thing in the world that he thinks of of me is a legendary guitarist.
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  He is a teenage boy who has the same amount of disrespect, an appropriate amount
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  of disrespect for me like all teenage boys certainly should.
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  Und er ist mein Son und er ist in der Band und es ist, ich will sagen,
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  das war zwei Jahre alt, er ist 13 Jahre alt.
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  Wir haben die erste big Festivale. Wir haben ein paar kleine Schöne in Italien,
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  wie Theaters oder 2,500 Pläne. Und wir waren, ich glaube, es war der Mad Cool
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  Festival in Spain, die ist über 60,000. Und wir stehen auf der Seite, und er sagt,
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  Dad, I'm kind of nervous. I'm like, oh really? Okay, well, we had a show yesterday.
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  Do you still know how to play the songs? And he's like, yeah.
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  I'm like, are you still pretty confident the rest of us know how to play the
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  songs? He's like, yeah. I'm like, let's just go play the songs.
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  And that was it. Wow, that's a very good prep talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Is it as simple as that? It's as simple as that. Just go play the song.
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  Talking about people involved in making this record.
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  Looking back at your previous Solar efforts, there was a tonne of colourful
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  people working with you, from Mumford & Sons to Steve Aoki. It's insane.
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  Is this something we can expect from this upcoming? Yeah, less so of that.
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  The door is certainly open to collaborations. I love making this song with Surge.
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  I made a song with Beartooth, Everything Burns, which will be on the record as well.
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  But I really want this to stand, to represent the kind of show...
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  Wenn du den Film von Rock on Ring, Rock in Park hast, ist es mir als ein Solo-Artist,
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  mit 90,000 Leuten in der gleichen Weise wie viele meine Bands haben.
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  Und ich will es, als Collaborators, da werden viele Collaborators,
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  das ist ein Tom Morello-Rekord.
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  So, to put it in one sentence, it's going to have less collaborations.
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  Less collaborations, yeah. The Atlas Underground records were built around collaborations.
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  The whole idea was in some ways to, in all my other bands and projects,
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  I'm a very type A controlling person, and it's got to be like this.
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  In this one, with the Atlas Underground records, I let go. I'm like,
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  I wonder what it would be like if Marcus Mumford and I wrote a song together.
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  I wonder what it would be like if Wu-Tang Clan and I wrote.
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  And just really sort of letting go, this one I'm more controlling against.
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  Das macht mich mehr comfortable around it. Wie compare es? Es ist all part...
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  Ich habe es, mit den Collaborative Records, dass ich mit genug Musik auf meinem
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  und mit meinen Bands gemacht habe. Ich habe es, wir sehen, was passiert,
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  wenn wir wirklich die Tür zu sehen, in different ways.
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  Right now, ich habe eine wirkliche Idee, eine Art Art, eine Art,
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  eine Art Art, eine Art, eine Art Art, eine Art, eine Art Art,
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  eine Art, eine Art Art, eine Art, eine Art Berlin-Einheit, eine Art Berlin-Einheit,
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  eine Art Art, eine Art, eine Art Die letzten zwei Mixer für den Rekord.
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  Ja, ja, ja. After the show? Oh, Jesus.
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  Ist das ein speciales Gefühl für dich denn? Weil du bist still von der Show?
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  Ich weiß nicht, es ist nicht ideal. Normalerweise, ich würde es nicht mehr so
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  sagen. Aber es gibt auch die Verlangen und ich muss es tun. So ich werde mit
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  den Händlern mit dem Händlern auf und mit dem Englern und Mixer in L.A. Oh, Gott.
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  Okay, das ist ein bisschen stressvoll. Aber ich liebe die Idee.
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  Ich fühle mich, ich habe wahrscheinlich...
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  Harder on this record than almost any other record that I've been involved in.
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  I really wanted to find the path.
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  And the path happened with sort of accepting that I could have an acoustic song,
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  a minor key ballad on this, as well as five songs with huge banger riffs.
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  I could have Roman play on half this record. Like, that's just going to be part of the thing.
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  I could embrace my backup band, the Freedom Fighter Orchestra,
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  to play on some of these songs.
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  I want to make a hard record where musically and riff-wise stands toe-to-toe
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  with anything that I've ever done, but sonically feels more like 2026.
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  Oh, wow. Okay. Talking about, you know, 2026 and your upbringing,
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  you already said you've been raised by heavy metal.
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  And lately you became basically a spokesperson for like traditional heavy metal,
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  you know? I mean, especially in this year, I've already seen two movies with
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  your beautiful face in it. Talking about like bands I absolutely love. Maiden & Priest.
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  So how does it feel for you to be this kind of spokesperson?
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  Yeah, well, I mean, it's not so much how I feel. I've been a spokesperson for
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  metal when I was 15 years old.
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  I've never shut up about the bands that I like. And a lot of times in the world
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  of metal, outside of the world of metal, there's disrespect or people don't
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  understand why it's great, etc.
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  And I've been involved in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame now for almost 15 Jahre, where I have,
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  Ich habe sehr hart gearbeitet und bullied und coerced und cajoled,
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  um, in getting Randy Rhoads in und Judas Priest in und this year Iron Maiden
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  in, Stevie Ray Vaughan in, Rush in, Kiss in.
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  These groups that were completely outside, but that I recognize are so important
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  to the history of music that deserve to be honored. So, you know,
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  making the Judas Priest documentary, first of all, I have opinions about all
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  metal, so if you put a microphone in front of me, I'm going to talk about it.
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  But it was a real honor to make the Judas Priest documentary with Sam Dunn.
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  Do you feel like metal as a genre, especially like this old-school kind of metal,
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  you know, gets more recognized these days?
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  I mean, especially like this year was a good year for this kind of music.
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  Yeah, I mean, well, all you got to do is look at the, you know,
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  Iron Maiden is headlining the biggest festivals on the planet.
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  Judas Priest has never been bigger than they are in 2026.
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  You know, Rush just began a tour last night, which is one of the most anticipated
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  ones in forever. So these bands now that are in their 45.
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  To 51 years on the planet are now just destroying it. And I think that it's
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  a testament, one, to just how great that music is and how it's not just people,
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  you know, 50- and 60-year-olds at the concerts anymore.
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  It's multiple generations now. Like, you know, certainly when I was playing
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  Rage Against the Machine riffs at Rock on Ring and Rock on Park the other day,
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  I look out there and it's all, you know, it's 15 to 25 year olds, like losing their shit.
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  And that's an encouraging sign. Isn't it interesting as well?
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  Like, I mean, when you started with Rage Against the Machine,
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  you had a very young audience and you brought them like a new style of metal.
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  And now you do the documentaries and you talk about like an older style of metal.
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  Do you feel like you bring this kind of like already established music,
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  but maybe a little bit forgotten music to another new generation?
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  Yeah. I mean, well, hopefully, I mean, certainly that was the case with the
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  Judas Priest documentary was to, because it's such one, the music's so great, too, the story.
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  If the members of Judas Priest had never made a note of music it's a tremendously
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  fascinating story but I'm an advocate for hard rock and metal, always have been like I,
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  said, that is the music that made me love music and last summer,
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  being the musical director of the Back to the Beginning show and Ozzy and Black Sabbath's last show,
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  it was such an honor to do that, but I took it so seriously,
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  I'm like, this really matters to you know not just to me not just the other
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  bands playing but like to the world,
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  with you and most of basically all your projects being like very political as
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  well you know it's a very beautiful combination of like a political message
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  um like music do you sometimes feel like this kind of music you know like priest
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  maiden all the classics you know.
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  Could have been a little bit more political in the message way than it is.
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  Yeah, well, I think that, first of all, sometimes there is political messaging
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  in those bands that doesn't get, like Black Sabbath's War Pigs is as powerful
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  a political song as anyone's ever made.
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  You know, Iron Man's Run to the Hills is a, you know, the American Indian,
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  the Native American genocide, etc.
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  So there are songs like that. But my take, in order for music to be great,
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  It has to be authentic, right?
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  So for me, if I didn't write songs about injustice, it would, it would be false.
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  And I couldn't make music that I think connected with people,
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  other bands, whether it's, you know, Motley Crue writing about,
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  you know, groupies and stuff that's authentic. So it comes across as something that's powerful.
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  Judas Priest writing about, you know, Rob Halford's lyrics have a wide range
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  of, a wide range of topics.
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  It's very, it's very authentic, very authentic and comes across as such. You know what I mean?
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  So, it's not like, don't make political music to please Tom Morello,
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  make music that is honest to your heart, and that's how you can connect with people.
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  That's a very beautiful way to put it. But still, do you feel like some bands
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  could have been, I mean, obviously, like, underlying, you know, the priest and stuff.
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  To me, it's very, very clear. As an artist, you have one responsibility,
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  and that is to tell the truth in your art. That's it. That's the responsibility. The end.
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  Und so, but if, if, if, however, you are an artist that does have ideas about injustice in the world
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  and you censor yourself because you're afraid you're going to lose,
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  you know, the radio station is not going to play or these fans are going to
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  write nasty comments, then that to me feels like you're doing yourself and your
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  times a great disservice.
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  To me, to single out bands as a place to people who should be expressing themselves
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  politically seems very narrow.
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  I think that whatever your job is, whether you are a radio disc jockey or a
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  tour manager or a carpenter or a student or whatever, you shouldn't leave behind
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  what you believe in what you do.
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  And so it's not a matter of should more bands be political? It's like should
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  more human beings stand up for their planet in whatever their vocation is?
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  And the answer to that is yes.
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  Ja, da ist eine andere Antwort zu das. Ja. So, was sind die nächsten Steps mit
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  der upcoming Album? Sure, sure, sure. So, wir sind die Anfang der Europäische Tour.
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  Wir gehen nach, haben wir ein paar Shows in den USA.
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  Ich annonze die große Power to the People Festival, auf October 3 in Washington,
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  D.C., zu versuchen, zu retten, die Demokratie und zu retten, die Faschismus.
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  Und dann die Rekord wird in den Fall kommen.
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  All, you know, knock wood, all things go well.
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  And I continue to work on music. So, like, I've always got, I've got music beyond,
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  you know, the songs from this record, too.
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  So, I feel like in a pretty great creative place now and so excited for this
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  record to finally be unleashed. Because it is a, some of my other music,
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  like, ever since the first, let me, here's an origin story. Okay.
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  So, I was in a band before Rage Against the Machine got dropped from my label.
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  I was 27 years old, which is not super young to be starting a new band,
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  right? And the only thing I knew was until that moment, I was trying to be famous.
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  I was trying to make records. I was trying to be a rock star.
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  And I failed at doing that by doing, I did what the producer said.
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  I did what the manager said.
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  We made songs to try to please people. And that didn't work.
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  So I said, okay, I'm never going to make records. I'm never going to be a rock
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  star. But I can't help but being a musician.
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  So I'm only going to make music that I believe in. And that's when I started
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  writing the riffs for the first Rage Against the Machine record.
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  So from that day to this, that has been North Star that's guided everything I do.
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  The thing that on this record that I couldn't be more psyched about,
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  it feels like to me, it's the same feeling as the first Rage Against the Machine
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  record, the first Audioslave record,
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  the first Prophets of Rage record, the first Night Watchman record,
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  where it's like a lifetime of being ready to do this thing is about to give
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  birth. And so it's really exciting for people to hear that.
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  When I hear you talking about your projects and especially what's going on with
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  this one, do you ever lose track about all the things you do?
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  I mean, is it stressful? Yes, I lose track. Yes, it's super stressful.
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  I lose track. I do too much stuff.
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  I'm in the middle of mixing a record on the same night of playing a show.
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  Yeah, exactly. On the same, you know, organizing a festival that's coming up.
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  I've got my frigging kids around and wandering around Berlin right now. Yes, it's stressful.
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  How do you manage? I've always had an engine on me. I always say yes to too many things.
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  But it's all part of living your life all the way up.
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  I think it's awesome to be able to play for 180,000 people on the weekend and
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  then give your kids, teenagers, a nice walking tour of Berlin the next day.
• 20:27
  And then visiting with some friends and playing in a punk club here.
• 20:32
  And that night going and mixing the last two songs. Like, that's pretty good
• 20:34
  living, man. That's pretty good living.
• 20:38
  So you said you have a couple of days off in Berlin? No, no, no.
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  Today, we got in yesterday, walked around today, and we have a show in Warsaw
• 20:47
  tomorrow. Oh, okay. So you don't have much time to enjoy it.
• 20:51
  We have enjoyed it. We've done pretty well. We got some tourism in while we
• 20:54
  were here. What did you do?
• 20:55
  Well, this is my kid's first time in Berlin. First time in Berlin.
• 20:58
  So we did, like, Brandenburg Gates. We did the Soviet monument at the former
• 21:04
  Crossroads. They're interested in World War II history, so they saw the Bundestag,
• 21:08
  and they know some of that history.
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  We saw the memorial to the slain Roma and the Jewish Holocaust memorial there,
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  which is very moving and haunting.
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  We peed on Hitler's grave over in that parking lot there. My son was waiting
• 21:22
  to do that for a long time, so we checked that box.
• 21:25
  It's a very bad place to take a piss because it's a very open parking space.
• 21:28
  Ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja,
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  ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja,
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  ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja,
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  ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja,
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  ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja,
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  ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja,
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  ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja, ja Ich habe das schon gemacht.
• 21:36
  Yes, I have.
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  And then tonight they're going to go to a punk rock show in Berlin So I think
• 21:45
  that'll check a lot of the boxes That sounds like a perfect time to Berlin Yeah,
• 21:48
  yeah, yeah, yeah Well, thank you so much for talking to me Of course And taking
• 21:53
  the time Of course To give us some insights about
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  the upcoming record Which is still quite mysterious Yes To most of us It'll be,
• 21:59
  less mysterious very, very soon Less mysterious very, very soon But again,
• 22:02
  I just want to thank you One, thanks for having me I really appreciate it And
• 22:05
  to any of your listeners out there,
• 22:08
  thanks for a lifetime of musical camaraderie.
• 22:13
  It's really, Germany was one of the first places that embraced Rage Against the Machine.
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  Some of the first biggest shows that we ever played were here.
• 22:22
  The idea of continuing to come back here now after 30 years of rocking with,
• 22:26
  every time I've been here with a different band, it's been a great experience.
• 22:29
  It's already been a great experience.
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  And tonight we're looking to have another one. Well, thank you so much for always coming back to us.
• 22:35
  We can only say the same thing about you Yeah, right now, right now, well thank you.