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Hawkins and Ryder Reunite Q&A - FROM THE VAULT! · The Major Wrestling Figure Podcast

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  Speaker 1: It's that time of the month.
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  Speaker 2: Time to get H-A-R-D. It's the Hard Foundation bonus episode
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  Speaker 2: with your hosts, the Major King Matt Cardona, Maximum Effort Brian.
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  Speaker 1: Myers, and Dr. Silver Balls himself, Smart Mark Sterling! Welcome
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  Speaker 1: everyone to the Hard Foundation bonus episode Q & A.
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  Speaker 1: Today is November 18th. 2021. Uh, and I am your
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  Speaker 1: moderator for this evening. Smart Mark Sterling Esquire. And I'm
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  Speaker 1: joined by first from New York from hailing from Long Island,
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  Speaker 1: New York, currently residing in Long Island, New York.
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  Speaker 3: Well, which one I'm hailing, but he's currently residing.
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  Speaker 4: I guess that's me then.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, that's you.
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  Speaker 4: I am your host, the most professional wrestler impact wrestling star,
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  Speaker 4: Scotty Pippen of wrestling figure collecting, uh, The man that
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  Speaker 4: lost 269 matches in a row, Brian Myers. What's up, everybody?
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  Speaker 4: And I'm your host. I'm your host. Always ready.
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  Speaker 3: The internet champion, then now forever, Matt Cardona. And this
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  Speaker 3: is a very interesting episode. We have a full retrospective
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  Speaker 3: series going on. We did developmental. We did our debut.
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  Speaker 3: We even did the indies. We did ECW.
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  Speaker 4: Edgeheads. Edgeheads.
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  Speaker 3: We did our singles runs right after the edgeheads. And
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  Speaker 3: this is our run where we reunite. So there's a
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  Speaker 3: little bit of a backstory. A lot of highs and lows,
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  Speaker 3: even in that year period. A lot of things I
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  Speaker 3: don't think we've ever said publicly. I'm sure a lot
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  Speaker 3: of things will be taken out of context. A lot
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  Speaker 3: of clickbait stuff will come out of this article. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: come out of this interview and into articles.
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  Speaker 4: Clickbait away, please.
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  Speaker 2: But....
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  Speaker 4: Mark, do you have like a format? I know we
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  Speaker 4: have questions, but do you have a starting point? What's
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  Speaker 4: the starting point? Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So the way that I frame this is Brian is rehired.
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  Speaker 1: He goes to Raw. Broski's on SmackDown for a short
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  Speaker 1: period of time.
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  Speaker 4: Well, no. At first, first, we're together on SmackDown. Really?
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  Speaker 1: Right away?
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  Speaker 4: Which, yeah, we did a bunch of like live event
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  Speaker 4: jabroni tags. There's actually a, is it TLC? There's like
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  Speaker 4: a 10 man.
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  Speaker 1: All right, well, let's just start from Brian gets rehired.
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  Speaker 1: He's not doing much.
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  Speaker 4: He's a hype bro. What do you mean he's not
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  Speaker 4: doing much? Brian gets rehired.
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  Speaker 3: I learned that from Billy Kidman. Brian, my good person,
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  Speaker 3: doesn't even tell me he got rehired. Billy Kidman tells me.
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  Speaker 4: Back story to that. I'll actually never forget it. I
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  Speaker 4: was at a convention with Hornswoggle and Raleigh Allen, head
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  Speaker 4: of security of the major pod, and Mark Carano called me.
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  Speaker 4: And I see that he's calling me, and I'm thinking–
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  Speaker 4: For some reason in my head, I don't know, it's
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  Speaker 4: whatever was going on at the time, I thought he
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  Speaker 4: was calling me to use my school for Holy Foley.
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  Speaker 4: Remember that show they were filming on the network? Yes.
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  Speaker 4: For some reason, I just thought it was that. Dan
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  Speaker 4: Barry's on that show. They do it at New York
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  Speaker 4: Wrestling Connection. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe there was some rumor
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  Speaker 4: that they needed to do that, and I just assumed
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  Speaker 4: that's what he wanted. And then he actually offered me
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  Speaker 4: my job back. So I'm there with two of my
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  Speaker 4: best friends in the whole world, Raleigh and Dylan, and
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, I just got this life-changing news but like Mark,
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  Speaker 4: I don't want to say threatened me with my life,
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  Speaker 4: but pretty close to it, like about the secrecy of it. Uh,
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  Speaker 4: so I literally only told, like, I like, excuse myself
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  Speaker 4: from the gimmick table and went and like a stairwell,
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  Speaker 4: the hotel and called Liz and I'll never forget it.
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  Speaker 4: And she was crying and stuff. And that's the only
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  Speaker 4: person I told for like such a long time.
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  Speaker 1: How did he do it? Like, how did, like, he's
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  Speaker 1: just like, Hey, would you be interested in this?
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  Speaker 4: He said that they, because they were expanding to, uh,
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  Speaker 4: SmackDown being live and the brand split and stuff. And
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  Speaker 4: then Vince wanted guys that had worked TV before and
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  Speaker 4: knew how to do it and were ready to go.
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  Speaker 4: He didn't want a person that needed to be in
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  Speaker 4: developmental or whatever. He just wanted guys that had been
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  Speaker 4: there in the past to just bring them back and
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  Speaker 4: give it a go. So it was like me and
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  Speaker 4: Rhino and Benjamin and people like that. Right.
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  Speaker 1: So then Broski, you found out about it.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I didn't tell Broski.
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  Speaker 1: Okay.
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  Speaker 4: So at this time, so this is like me....
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  Speaker 3: I win the IC title, but then I'm also doing
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  Speaker 3: hype bro stuff in NXT. And, but I'm also doing
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  Speaker 3: like pretty cool stuff on television in WWE land. I'm
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  Speaker 3: like wrestling Rusev for the U S title on a
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  Speaker 3: pay-per-view and I'm like hitting my stride. Uh, and then it's, uh,
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  Speaker 3: the match I'm against Rusev. Um, and we're going over
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  Speaker 3: the match earlier in the day and Arne Anderson's like, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And then Mojo runs out. I'm like, Mojo, like he's
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  Speaker 3: not even here. It turns out he was, he was
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  Speaker 3: hidden on a bus and, That's insane. Obviously, he knew
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  Speaker 3: he was there. Didn't tell me. So, like, instantly, I fucking... Like,
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  Speaker 3: I was just... The Hype Bros, in my mind, were doomed.
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  Speaker 3: Because I couldn't trust the guy.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's so... But it's
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  Speaker 4: wild on so many levels. Like, the WWE would hide Mojo. Like, oh, man,
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  Speaker 4: the Mojo pop tonight is going to be epic. So,
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  Speaker 4: I was trying my hardest with the Hype Bros. But then.
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  Speaker 3: Things were turning around. I was the IC champion. I
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  Speaker 3: was doing stuff on Raw.
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  Speaker 4: I had merch.
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  Speaker 3: Pretty sure I got new music from downstate. Everything was
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  Speaker 3: finally turning around for me.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like, what? Now I got to be with him?
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  Speaker 4: It doesn't make sense. Why?
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  Speaker 3: And it was his hometown, Mojo's hometown. He comes out
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  Speaker 3: like I don't want to say there was no pop,
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  Speaker 3: but it wasn't like a pop. Because this was before
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  Speaker 3: NXT was really a thing.
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  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying? It's a thing.
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  Speaker 3: It's a thing, but it's not on TV yet. You
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  Speaker 3: know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 4: That's true. It was very popular. Yeah. So he comes out.
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  Speaker 4: We start the Hype Bros.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm like, there's instantly these trust issues there. I
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  Speaker 3: don't want to do it at this point. Because before
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  Speaker 3: I was all for it because I wasn't doing anything
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  Speaker 3: on TV. Now I'm doing something. Now I'm finally after...
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  Speaker 3: The YouTube run ends, and I'm like, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: years of doing nothing. I'm finally doing something. I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to do the Hype Bros now. But, you know,
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  Speaker 3: I had to make the best of it, and that's
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  Speaker 3: what I did. Or tried to, at least. So that's
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  Speaker 3: the summertime. So, Brian, you debut. When do you re-debut?
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  Speaker 4: It's summertime, right? It's when the draft is. Yeah, like
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  Speaker 4: late August 2016.
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  Speaker 3: I remember I picked you up from the airport that
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  Speaker 3: first day.
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  Speaker 4: No, my first day was in Nashville. I definitely picked
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  Speaker 4: you up the first day from the airport. 100%. Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Because at that point, I knew you were coming back.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. Then it finally got out. Yeah. Possibly.
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  Speaker 1: So you're both on Raw, but then.
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  Speaker 4: We're both on SmackDown.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's what it is. Then do you both get
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  Speaker 1: drafted to Raw at some point? You're always together?
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  Speaker 4: Well, first, then I get injured... And I'm sent home.
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  Speaker 4: This is kind of funny. This will take me back
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  Speaker 4: to that TLC thing. This is a Broski and Arne
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  Speaker 4: Anderson burial all wrapped into one. Broski gets injured on
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  Speaker 4: that episode. What is that? Tribute to the Troops? No.
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  Speaker 3: It's a day that they're going to film Tribute to
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  Speaker 3: the Troops, but it's a live SmackDown.
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  Speaker 4: And I think me and Mojo....
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  Speaker 3: Well, I'm supposed to win a battle royal. I end
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  Speaker 3: up winning the battle royal, and I believe, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know for sure, that we're supposed to win the tag
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  Speaker 3: team titles. But I don't have any proof of that. Anyway,
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  Speaker 3: I win the battle royal, but my knee blows out right.
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  Speaker 4: Before, like seconds before. That same month, I want to say,
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  Speaker 4: is TLC, and there's like a 10-man, and we're in it. Right, yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Do you remember this? We were doing a lot of events,
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  Speaker 4: and then they liked it so much they put it
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  Speaker 4: on the pay-per-view. And there's a spot where me and
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  Speaker 4: Broski get in, and, like, we have, like, a little
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  Speaker 4: face-off and, like, wait for the reaction. And I don't
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  Speaker 4: say it was crickets, but it wasn't, like, you know,
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  Speaker 4: Rock Hogan or anything. But whatever. And then I remember
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  Speaker 4: getting to the back of Arn Anderson. I was like,
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  Speaker 4: why'd y'all do that? Nobody remembers y'all's team. Like, basically
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  Speaker 4: saying we were being, like, marks for ourselves. I was like, okay, thanks, man.
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  Speaker 4: Then Broski gets hurt, and Arn pulls me aside a
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  Speaker 4: couple months later, and he's like, hey, man, I had
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  Speaker 4: this idea that, like, you're the guy that helps Broski
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  Speaker 4: get back on his feet. And when you guys reunite
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  Speaker 4: or whatever, blah, blah, blah. And then I go to
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  Speaker 4: Broski to tell him this whole thing that Arn was
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  Speaker 4: thinking about, about us being a team again. And like,
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  Speaker 4: however he laid it out. And I go to Broski,
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  Speaker 4: I said, dude, Arn had this idea that we were
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  Speaker 4: a team again when you get back. And Broski looks
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  Speaker 4: me dead in the eye and goes, I'd rather quit
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  Speaker 4: this company than be a tag team with you.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know if that was the exact quote, but.
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  Speaker 4: No, it was something very similar. Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I, at this point, When I get hurt, obviously
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  Speaker 3: there's no good time to get hurt, right? But I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: oh my God, yes, that means the Hype.
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  Speaker 4: Bros are done.
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  Speaker 3: Because they started doing stuff with Mojo. Mojo beat Brian
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  Speaker 3: on a paperweight kickoff.
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  Speaker 4: Thanks for that, by the way, because then I proceeded
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  Speaker 4: to wrestle Mojo for months.
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  Speaker 3: Mojo somehow, someway wins. Well, we know how, because Rob Garkowski,
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  Speaker 3: his friend, got involved. Listen, I love Dean Mutati.
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  Speaker 4: Don't like Mojo. I'll never forget walking into that mania.
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  Speaker 4: because we had access on that Sunday, so we were
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  Speaker 4: kind of late for the call time, because you do access.
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  Speaker 4: And the first person who told me, I think it
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  Speaker 4: was Breeze and Brody. And I'm like, oh, so who's over?
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  Speaker 4: And they're like, Mojo's over. And I go, okay, no,
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  Speaker 4: for real, who's over? And they go, no, Mojo's over.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm just like, speechless. And then they proceeded talking
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  Speaker 4: about the Gronkowski stuff, and it made a lot more sense.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm thinking, all right, well, there's no way they're
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  Speaker 3: going to bring me back now, because I knew all along,
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  Speaker 3: I was just there to bring Mojo along, you know?
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  Speaker 3: Like I was just there to, you know, accentuate his positives,
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  Speaker 3: highs and negatives while he got his reps in. So
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  Speaker 3: this whole time, like I'm planning for like this singles
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  Speaker 3: comeback and I'm even getting texted by the writers Like
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  Speaker 3: the plan is as of now that you're going to
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  Speaker 3: come back as a surprise entry at the money in
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  Speaker 3: the bank pay-per-view and be in the match. So I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: fuck yes. Like that's like my recovery time was like
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  Speaker 3: six to nine months. I made sure I was back
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  Speaker 3: exactly six months of the day. Cause that was in
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  Speaker 3: time for money in the bank. And I'm like, I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to be, I was even like, this is how
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  Speaker 3: like crazy I was. I was pitching to win Money
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  Speaker 3: in the Bank. Like I like sent it to like
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  Speaker 3: the writers that I would win and win the world title,
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  Speaker 3: like crazy shit. Like, cause that's where I thought like
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  Speaker 3: was a possibility. Like my idea was to like win
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  Speaker 3: the Money in the Bank and then cash in at
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  Speaker 3: Barclays at SummerSlam, but then like lose the next night.
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  Speaker 4: Like kind of like the IC title thing. Anyway, the
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  Speaker 4: Mojo singles run fails. So who do they call? me
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  Speaker 4: so the hypros are back and i'm like furious another
• 10:52
  Speaker 4: one of my favorite favorite stories is uh this is
• 10:56
  Speaker 4: a ziggler group chat favorite too the day broski's back
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  Speaker 4: and obviously he has these big plans for himself that
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  Speaker 4: didn't you know happen um he got i think it's
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  Speaker 4: the day before he gets the the script of the
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  Speaker 4: verbiage whatever and it's some pre-tape with mojo and then
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  Speaker 4: a hand comes out of nowhere and taps him on
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  Speaker 4: the shoulder And it reveals Zack Ryder, and he goes,
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  Speaker 4: I'm back, bro. Okay? And he goes, in our group chat,
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: he's going nuts. Never, ever will I say this. This
• 11:28
  Speaker 4: is bullshit. Just absolutely going nuts. So I watch SmackDown.
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  Speaker 4: I've been switched to Raw at this point. I watch SmackDown.
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  Speaker 4: How does it play out? I'm back, bro. I remember
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  Speaker 4: that day, I went into.
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  Speaker 3: Vince's office to not get out of it, but kind
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  Speaker 3: of like, you know, I'm back, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I have all these ideas, blah, blah, blah.
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  Speaker 3: And like, you just felt like he wasn't, he wasn't
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  Speaker 3: being receptive, being very nice, just like was not being receptive.
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  Speaker 3: And I remember like, I'm pitching hard for myself. And like,
• 12:03
  Speaker 3: as I'm about to walk out of his office, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: like the bathroom door of the office opens up and like,
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  Speaker 3: it's Triple H who comes out. So he like heard
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  Speaker 3: me like pile ticket for myself, which was, I wasn't
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  Speaker 3: like saying, I don't want to do this. I was
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  Speaker 3: just trying to say like, Hey, like there's so much
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  Speaker 3: more we could do here, you know?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But anyway, kept doing the high pro stuff. Long story short,
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  Speaker 3: it ends. Thank God. Because I was just miserable and
• 12:28
  Speaker 3: we weren't doing anything. So it was like, it was just, it,
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  Speaker 3: it just sucked.
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  Speaker 4: It sucked.
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  Speaker 1: I'm going to be totally honest with you. I liked
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  Speaker 1: the Hypros.
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  Speaker 2: Why?
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 4: What's the like about the Hypros?
• 12:43
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't mind the Hypros.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: So then at some point, I become much better friends
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  Speaker 1: with Brian while you're on SmackDown, I think, and he's
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: on Raw. So I remember specifically... Brian sort of like
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: being excited that you were drafted to Raw, that you
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  Speaker 1: guys were going to travel together, because I think you
• 13:05
  Speaker 1: just lost Finn at the time. He was your travel partner. So, anyway,
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: Brodsky comes to Raw, and I think we'll take the
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  Speaker 1: questions here.
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  Speaker 4: Well, I think there's more to it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure people are going to ask questions revolving
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  Speaker 1: around this stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, but there's this, well, a couple. The gist of
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  Speaker 4: it is, I got switched to Raw for the remainder
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  Speaker 4: of my run, and that's when the losing streak kind
• 13:34
  Speaker 4: of became a thing.
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  Speaker 3: Right.
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  Speaker 4: And then post this Hype Bros breakup, Broski just went
• 13:40
  Speaker 4: into maybe the most obscure era of his career.
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: Was that when you were not on a television, like
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  Speaker 1: a main television show for one year?
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  Speaker 4: Yes, yes. An entire year.
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  Speaker 3: And that's when I started the Still Here and the
• 13:55
  Speaker 3: Always Ready stuff.
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  Speaker 4: Legit.
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  Speaker 3: There was one time I was going to be on Raw.
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  Speaker 3: I believe it's when I first get drafted. And it's
• 14:03
  Speaker 3: in the script until the day of where I'm supposed
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  Speaker 3: to beat Bryan.
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  Speaker 4: Remember that, Bryan? At NASA Coliseum. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Why did that get switched? Because we're involved. Yeah, I guess.
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  Speaker 3: And then we end up having the match on fucking
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  Speaker 3: main event. And we have a kick-ass match. But it's like,
• 14:21
  Speaker 3: who cares? It was supposed to be on Raw. I remember, like,
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: the pitch, it was my pitch and it actually went
• 14:28
  Speaker 3: all the way through it. Even like Ed Koski, like
• 14:30
  Speaker 3: texted me the night before that was in the script, uh,
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: something where I believe you come out and say you
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: want to break your streak, uh, in your hometown. But
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: then I come out and say, I want to, I
• 14:40
  Speaker 3: haven't been on raw. You know, I just got drafted, blah, blah, blah.
• 14:43
  Speaker 3: And then you say like, Hey man, like, why don't
• 14:45
  Speaker 3: we end the street together?
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: Come back together as partners.
• 14:47
  Speaker 3: Then you like, hit me with the cane or something
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  Speaker 3: like that and tell the ref, ring the bell, ring
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: the bell, and then you run into a ref rider, one, two, three.
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  Speaker 4: It was supposed to be a quick thing, but it
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: would have been great for both of us. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe I'm messing up exactly what I'm supposed to do.
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  Speaker 3: It was along those lines, which turned into a two-segment
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  Speaker 3: match on Main Event that nobody saw unless you were
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  Speaker 3: in that building.
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  Speaker 4: Right. It's probably on Peacock. Yeah. It was a good match, actually.
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: So, whatever. We know what happens there. In front of
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: the cameras for that entire year, Brian's losing, Broski's doing nothing.
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  Speaker 1: You guys reunite. So let's hit the questions because there's
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: a lot of detailed questions. And I think that these
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: people are going to sort of fill in. There's a
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: lot of questions. Double what we normally get for these.
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: So Tommy Sapienza, he says, were there any plans or
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: storylines for Brian when he returned that may have been scrapped?
• 15:37
  Speaker 1: That's a great question.
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know for sure, but from when
• 15:42
  Speaker 4: I came back.
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: What was the Clint Eastwood stuff? Or no, Chuck Norris.
• 15:46
  Speaker 4: Chuck Norris facts. I mean, from when I came back.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: I want to say at least three or four weeks
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: in a row, maybe more. I was always in the
• 15:53
  Speaker 4: script to be on SmackDown. Whether I was in a
• 15:55
  Speaker 4: pre-tape or something to debut. And always day of it
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: got changed. Until it became nothing. And then somebody, some
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: writer pitched the Chuck Norris fax to Vince and he
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: laughed and never heard of this 15-year-old gag. And that
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: was it. It just had nothing to do with me.
• 16:18
  Speaker 4: Just completely thrown against the wall was what it was.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: What was with the famous clip of you talking in
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: between your legs? Whose idea? And they're like, yes, let's
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: do this. And are you doing it going, yeah?
• 16:31
  Speaker 4: Impact Wrestling writer Robert Evans, the man that walked out
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: of WWE during Bret Hart's Hall of Fame speech. The
• 16:38
  Speaker 4: Quit Man. The Quit Man. He was assigned all those.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: And basically he wrote them, but he said that Vince
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: wanted to see How many, like, my range. You know
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: what I mean?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: Funny, serious, accents, weird positions. He said that's what it
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: was his directive. So I just went for it. Got it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Mr. Waffles, how was this pitched? What was your reaction
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: to the idea of doing this? I didn't even know
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: what he means by this. I mean, reuniting?
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: The first day, I remember we heard a rumor that
• 17:17
  Speaker 4: it might be happening. And then they came out of
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: the meeting and were like, tonight's the night. You guys
• 17:23
  Speaker 4: get back together on Raw.
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: By the way, actually, we should say, the podcast, the
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: Major Wrestling Figure podcast starts before this.
• 17:32
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Well, it starts in August of 2018.
• 17:37
  Speaker 4: And I think at this point.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I'm clearly not doing anything. Brian is on this losing
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: streak with no end in sight. I think at this point,
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: we're both for it. We're doing the podcast. And we
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: heard rumors that it was going to happen, but just rumors, right?
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: And obviously, it wasn't rumors started by the internet, like
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: people within the company, writers, whoever. Mark Carano, I don't know,
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: maybe some agents. But then one day, it just happens.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: It switches throughout the day. I'm supposed to wrestle Jinder
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: Mahal on Main Event, and it just changes.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think the week prior, we do the... thing
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: where i'm the ref and you run in and help
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: me no that's happens that day but even then i
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: feel like we didn't know like if it was really happening.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: No but all this also we knew that we might
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: get back together but it just one day like midway
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: through the day it's like all right this was happening
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: that's when you're the referee like i i was supposed
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: to have a main event match that day.
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: Okay i think you're right about that i think you
• 18:41
  Speaker 4: might still have the main event match.
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: Oh, I don't even know about that. That could be interesting.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: But the following week, we have the tag with Revival.
• 18:50
  Speaker 4: That's when it was like they were talking about it.
• 18:53
  Speaker 4: Like Vince said this. He said, no more Kane for me. Oh, right, right.
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: No more Woo for you.
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: But the run-in part was such a... Because people remembered,
• 19:01
  Speaker 3: you know? It was obvious people remembered.
• 19:03
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: Yes, absolutely. Yes, I remember being very excited about that.
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: Also, being a ref for a two-seg television show and
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: never doing it is... insane and one of the most
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: nerve-wracking things I did in WWE. And like Brian said,
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: the real headpiece, real countdowns, giving guys real times. I'm like,
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: this is nothing I've ever even thought of doing. And
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: now I'm just winging it.
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: Do you remember who the match was?
• 19:28
  Speaker 4: It's actually, and that's another thing, it's a crazy match
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: because they're doing a lot of stuff. It's Revival against
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Bobby Roode and Chad Gable. So do you walk up
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: to them and.
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: You're like, hey guys, I'm your ref. And they're like, what?
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: And I have to really be involved. It was difficult.
• 19:41
  Speaker 4: And then there's one part During the commercial, I don't
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: know if I've ever said this. During the commercial, I'm
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: just kind of dying. I'm like, holy fuck, got through
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: one seg. And maybe someone went to the floor just
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: to kill time, but I'm supposed to be counting. And
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: I'm just like, no, no, no. I don't know why
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: I'm not doing it. And then the crowd starts doing it,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: trolling me. And I realize, oh shit, I'm supposed to
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: be counting. It was like a pretty... pretty dumb moment.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: That's funny. All right. Ryan, or Russ Saylor. Brian, when
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you came back, did you want some distance from Broski,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: or did you want to be teamed back with him?
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: Like, initially, like I said, Carano, like, made it sound like,
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: and actually, writers who were name-nameless called me and made
• 20:29
  Speaker 4: it seem like it was going to be a big deal, like,
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: when I came back. So, I was interested to see
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: where it would go. But once it went nowhere, obviously,
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: I was not, like, My whole run, I've always just
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: wanted to be booked. I just want to be involved.
• 20:41
  Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, yes, I want to be the champion
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: and I want to be the top guy, but I'll
• 20:46
  Speaker 4: take any little sliver of the pie just to prove myself,
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: you know? So I didn't really care after a certain point.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Absolutely.
• 20:55
  Speaker 4: Mr.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: Waffles, again, did you have any detractors at the thought
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of the reunion?
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Not that we know of. Like I said, it just
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: kind of came out of nowhere. And like Brian said,
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: by week two... It's like, okay, no more Kane. Vince
• 21:09
  Speaker 3: says no more Kane. Vince says no more woo-woo-woo, which
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: we were both fine with. And our main thing is, okay,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: can we get our old music back? And that was
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: the most... This is embarrassing. They didn't have it on file.
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: I'm trying to explain, like, hey, it was even on
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: a CD. So they find the CD version. I'm like, yeah,
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: but that wasn't the real version. Can we cut out
• 21:31
  Speaker 3: this part? And then, long story short, they say that
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: it's not... The right quality, not the right sound quality.
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: It's so old. They said it wasn't like HD sound
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: quality because it was so old.
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: I don't necessarily buy because people who have come back,
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: like John Morrison, MVP, all had the same theme around
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: that time.
• 21:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah. I do think, and this might just be me
• 21:50
  Speaker 4: being a mark, I think the music was one of
• 21:53
  Speaker 4: the biggest downfalls of the return. 100%. Because it was
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: so extra generic and bad. They gave us.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: three choices it was shit shittier and shittiest which one
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: do you want.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: And we were just like oh my and this is
• 22:08
  Speaker 4: after like repeatedly asking right and because.
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: You know like even at wrestlemania which is fine well
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: i don't want to jump ahead but we come out
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: to different music you know yeah and uh so like
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: but what sucks is like it was so shitty that
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: on these live events it would play and get no reaction.
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: Because nobody knew what it was. Yeah. It was just, oh,
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: it was horrible.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: It sucked. Yes, for sure.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: And we tried, we went to Hunter, we went to Neil.
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: He just gave no shits about our music.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: All right, Marcus Avedia, did you guys ever want to
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: have a feud against each other when Brian was hired back?
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: Was that ever discussed or anything pop in your brain?
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: No.
• 22:54
  Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like we got to play out
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: a lot of that an impact. I mean, I've had
• 22:58
  Speaker 4: a lot of fun doing that. That's something I always
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: wanted to do. I don't know about Matt, but.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: It wouldn't have really made sense at the time because
• 23:04
  Speaker 3: neither of us were doing anything.
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: And you kind of, I mean, you kind of did
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: have as good of a feud as you possibly could
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: while Brian's in a losing streak and you're doing nothing.
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: You guys wrestled a bunch of times like on live
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: events and all that stuff. How many of those, how
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: many of those 269 losses? Not many.
• 23:20
  Speaker 4: No, not many.
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: No?
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: No, not many. We've hardly ever touched before our impact stuff,
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: believe it or not. Right.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: I'm just remembering that overseas.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Well, there's one November tour where, like, Brian does the whole, like,
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: loses to somebody, gets on the mic, and somebody else
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: comes down.
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: Which is, like, so fun. Right. So my stuff was always, like,
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: hit a rough rider.
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: I remember one day I was doing, like, the Hogan stuff,
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: and I got pulled aside, like, hey, just do your
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: Zack Ryder stuff.
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: No more. No, we just kept changing every night. Then
• 23:49
  Speaker 4: it was, like, warrior splash. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and
• 23:53
  Speaker 4: then IRS pulled him aside and said, please stop doing that.
• 23:56
  Speaker 4: But I wrestle somebody in a full-blown match, lose. Then
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: I want to say Titus comes, beats me, I lose.
• 24:03
  Speaker 4: And then Brose is the last one. So I figure
• 24:07
  Speaker 4: why not make it as goofy as possible.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: That sounds great.
• 24:10
  Speaker 4: Yeah. To do the gimmick like that is so fun.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: Mark Garofalo. Any fun stories from wrestling in Japan in
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: June of 2019? That trip was so fun.
• 24:24
  Speaker 4: I have, like, vivid memories about so much of it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Kaz, our sponsor to the Total Con, Rivera.
• 24:32
  Speaker 4: Wrestling the Good Brothers, Wrestling Revival, you know, Sumo Hall, like,
• 24:36
  Speaker 4: just cool stuff. I had never been, so it was
• 24:39
  Speaker 4: all just, like, unreal for me.
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: To be honest, Mark Garofalo, there is a very popular
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: vlog on our YouTube that documents that entire trip, so
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: check that out.
• 24:50
  Speaker 4: Joe Ellis. Broski knocked Gallows out in a match, too. Well,
• 24:53
  Speaker 4: it was Japan, so you had to be a little stiff.
• 24:55
  Speaker 4: He was working Long Island Strong Style.
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: Was that when he freezed to take a... What is it?
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Atomic drop? No, that was Anderson. It wasn't this tour.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Joe Ellis. Who doesn't do drop-to-holds? That's me.
• 25:11
  Speaker 4: I'm not a drop-to-hold guy. Broski says no to drop-to-holds.
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: I could take him. I just don't give him. I'm
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: not a drop-to-hold guy.
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Joe Ellis, any good backstories about people busting Broski's balls
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: about misspelling his name on live TV? I guess that
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: only happened one time, right?
• 25:29
  Speaker 4: He kind of got a pass on that one and
• 25:32
  Speaker 4: didn't get as much traction. I hated it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 3: It was so confusing because they misspelled my name. So
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: then the story was that I was complaining about it.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: But then as I'm doing it, I misspell it.
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: I say cover.
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: I cover the best I can. Even I don't know
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: how to spell my name at this point. So I
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: did the best I could try to cover it, but.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: That was live. That was a one-taker, and can't redo
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: that one, pal. That's obviously why that's that way, yeah. Yeah.
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: I kind of remember Dave Kapoor, who produced that one,
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: being like, Jesus, man, how'd you fuck that up? I
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: also remember right before- He didn't say that, but he
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: had that look in his eye.
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Oh, yeah, and I remember right before he said something like,
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: you got to nail this one, get it out of
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: the park.
• 26:13
  Speaker 4: His pep talk went completely sideways. Yeah, it did the opposite.
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: It made me more nervous. I forgot my fucking name.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: My God. Jonathan Espinoza, did it cross your mind that
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: it was going to be another one-night-stand type of deal
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: like Broski's Intercontinental run?
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: 100%. Or did you guys kind of know.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: You were going to have a little more time defending
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: and being the tag team champion?
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: First of all, if I could redo it, I wish
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: it was one night. That's all I'm saying. What are
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: you talking about? We had the most uneventful run ever.
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: I would have loved for it to be one night. Yeah, maybe.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: When people give me shit about the one night of
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: IC title, I'm like, no, I'm so glad it was
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: one night. So remember, by the way, I didn't want
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: to just have it meaningless for like two months, which
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: we did for the tag titles. There were weeks we
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: weren't even on Raw. We were losing as champs.
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: I've always thought this was another detriment to the run,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: besides the terrible theme music. So that night in Barclays
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: was originally, the night after Mania, it was supposed to
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: be us and Braun and Finn fighting. in an eight man,
• 27:12
  Speaker 4: like kind of establishing us as like more upper tier guys,
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: you know? And then crazy late in the day, it
• 27:21
  Speaker 4: gets changed to versus Revival, two sags, rematch. And then
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: we're like, oh, we're losing these belts. And then we weren't,
• 27:29
  Speaker 4: and we were shocked.
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: Hmm.
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: So.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember, so I was there as an extra,
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: and I remember hearing that you guys were doing this main,
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: but then it didn't happen.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: And I was like, I guess, you know, you have, like,
• 27:43
  Speaker 4: the tunnel vision to get done what you have to
• 27:45
  Speaker 4: get done, you know, on this hectic workday. But looking back,
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: I wish we had that original match where, you know,
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: it just would have established us a bit more. It
• 27:53
  Speaker 4: was still a cool night.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: I remember, like, the directive when we did our entrance, like,
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: stand on the announce table, and we'll go to commercial
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: break on that. So then we had a kick-ass match,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: but Brian's 100% right. It would have been a lot
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: better standing tall with Braun and Finn.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: It was a great match. Jonathan Espinoza, he says yes
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: about being offered entrance songs. No. Steve Hoker, once the
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: winning the belts... Sorry, I mean championships. I don't know
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: what he's saying. Did it go exactly as planned or
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: did WWE change things as it progressed? I guess you
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: kind of talked about that.
• 28:27
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty damn sure that the next week... So we
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: beat Revival. We win the titles. We beat Revival. Then
• 28:33
  Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure the next week, if not the week after,
• 28:36
  Speaker 4: we lose.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: In some match, I have the debuting Viking Raiders as champs.
• 28:42
  Speaker 4: Pretty sure it's the next week.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, oh, the writing is on the wall here.
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: Writing is on the wall. Also, I think I was
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: thrilled to be in the spot after losing for 269 matches.
• 28:57
  Speaker 4: To be with my best friend, I felt like it
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: was just... Anything we got out of it was fine
• 29:01
  Speaker 4: by me. Plus, WWE doesn't give a fuck about tag
• 29:03
  Speaker 4: team wrestling, and they never have. Probably never will, so...
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: It was what it was. I was riding the wave.
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: For Brian, Bower Stode, by the way. Bowser Toad. For Brian,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: when you returned, were there promises that weren't fulfilled by
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the WWE?
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: Not really, no. I don't need to have a fake
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: complaint about that. But like I said, that initial call
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: made it seem like this was a bigger deal than
• 29:31
  Speaker 4: it ended up being.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you did have a long talk with...
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Jim Johnston about music and then you just got the
• 29:38
  Speaker 3: generic stuff.
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: But he got let go.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: We talked about that. Brian Culp asks a very similar
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: question to the person above, but then also adds, was
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: he hesitant to leave the Indies?
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: No, because... You got that out of your system. In
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: that first firing... That was like my goal to make
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: it back, you know? And this one hasn't even crossed
• 30:05
  Speaker 4: my mind. It's just two different worlds. But that was
• 30:08
  Speaker 4: what I was like striving for, you know? So I
• 30:11
  Speaker 4: was like, wow, I did it. Absolutely.
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: Brian, Johnny Barnett, what was it like getting thrown through
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: drywall by Braun Strowman? And was that shoot drywall or
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: working drywall?
• 30:23
  Speaker 4: Super scary. There was like a little X on the wall. No,
• 30:27
  Speaker 4: on the floor. to see where I had to go through.
• 30:31
  Speaker 4: And then, of course, Braun's like a shoot meathead idiot
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: and like manhandled me. So like it was like skin
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: in my teeth type thing. And then like literally Ellis,
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: the stunt guy, was like, man, you got to nail
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: this because if you go left or right, you're going
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: to get rocks. So pretty scary. But I had like
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: several Braun scary things. Like he puts me through the
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: table in catering, which was insane.
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Tacos with Baron Corbin. And then Braun puts me through
• 31:00
  Speaker 4: the video wall the other time.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. And then your action figure comes with the
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: video wall, right?
• 31:06
  Speaker 4: Well, it comes with, like, a wall for Braun to
• 31:08
  Speaker 4: throw me through, basically. Yeah.
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: Greg DePaoli, it's a weird question, so I'll reword it.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: He's asking about, like, how did they find you? Basically,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: are you on a list or whatever? But also, like,
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: were they, like, checking in on you? Like, how did
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: they know that you were in shape? You know, that
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: kind of stuff.
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: I honestly have no clue. I know when Carano called me,
• 31:31
  Speaker 4: he said they presented Vince with a list of possible
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: people to bring back. And he handpicked me and these
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: other guys off the list.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I see. Oh, so somebody probably was like, is Hawkins
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: in shape?
• 31:43
  Speaker 4: Somebody in the office maybe did their due diligence.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Is Hawkins in shape? Okay, yeah. Oh, barbed wire match?
• 31:49
  Speaker 4: Okay, cool. I don't know. I mean, I think they...
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: I do know he asked me if I had a
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: contract with Global Force or whatever, which I didn't. So
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: someone smartened him up to something.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: Right, true. Brian Culp, we already answered this. When does
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Matt find out about Brian being rehired and what's Matt's
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: feeling about possibly being a team again? We've heard that.
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: Greg DePaoli again. What differences did Brian notice from his
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: first time with the WWE and his second? Also the
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: same question pertaining to the indie scene in both scenarios.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: I kind of just answered the indie one. WWE actually
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: was just talking to Fandango over the weekend like, My
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: second run was so much more fun. It was so
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: much more laid back. It wasn't like that eggshell environment.
• 32:34
  Speaker 4: No dress code. I don't know. It was a lot
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: more enjoyable. I don't know if I was just more older,
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: more mature. I don't know.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: True, true, true. I enjoyed it a lot. Literally, it
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: was four years of just, I loved it. Made more money. Obviously,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: that's always nice.
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, right. Greg asks another question that doesn't really have
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: anything to do with you guys. Corbin Joslin, what was
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: Brian's thoughts on the Face the Facts character? Well, you
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: kind of already said that. You didn't mind it. You
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: just wanted to go for broke. Oh, how about this?
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Did you have any pitches for the character that never
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: came to light?
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: For the Face the Facts character?
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: Well, just like, I don't know, your debuting character or
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: ways to fix it or I don't know.
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: No.
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: Just trying to go with what they were given.
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: Yeah, basically.
• 33:30
  Speaker 3: I was big into pitching crazy ideas at this point.
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: Just kind of throwing shit against the wall. I didn't
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: want to pitch something small. I knew if I'm going
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: to get it... At this point, I realized, too, fuck
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: pitching to the writers. I need to go right to Vince.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: Because that's how you're going to get things done. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: I would pitch, I guess, outlandish ideas because I just
• 33:54
  Speaker 3: wanted to get his attention.
• 33:56
  Speaker 4: You know, like.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: And then I, you know, if you did Bobby Roode,
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: that's not going to get his attention.
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying?
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: So, like, one pitch was to get fired. Was to
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: legit get fired. Do, like, kind of like the Matt
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: Hardy deal from back in the day. And then, like,
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: I wanted, SummerSlam was coming up with the Barclays. Then
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: I wanted to, like, hop the rail, get arrested. I
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: even said I'll really get arrested. Like, put my mugshot up, everything. Like,
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I wanted to make it as real as possible. And
• 34:23
  Speaker 3: he actually liked the idea. He said it was too,
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: SummerSlam was too soon, but let's build to it. And
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: a couple weeks later, it was actually in the script
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: that Baron Corbin fires him.
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: I'm like, no, that's not what I mean. Then it's fake.
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: Why?
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: Because he's Baron Corbin.
• 34:36
  Speaker 4: Well, because he was like Constable Corbin. Constable Corbin. Mark,
• 34:39
  Speaker 4: show some respect.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Okay, right.
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: Oh, right.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: So you want to get fired like WWE's come to
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: terms with Zack Ryder.
• 34:45
  Speaker 4: Right, right. No one's going to believe a Constable Corbin fight. Right.
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't happen. And then it's still a plan.
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: It's still a plan. It's still a plan. But then
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, well, I hope it doesn't happen. Because
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: then AEW was just started with like all in and
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: everything like that. And it's like, well, fuck, if they
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: do fire me and then I don't do like all
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: in or something like that, they're.
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: Going to know it's fake. Yeah. You know?
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: So then you stop pushing.
• 35:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah. Maybe it's not all.
• 35:16
  Speaker 3: Maybe they're starting AEW. Maybe all in already happened.
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: Hmm.
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: Michael Maniaki, walk us through the entire pitch for the
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: Gratitude Era. Would it eventually lead to a heel turn,
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: and was there ever talk of a potential stable?
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: We actually had a great talk with Vince about it.
• 35:33
  Speaker 4: We waited outside his office one day and went in,
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: just hung out with him on his couches in his
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: office and pitched it, and he seemed super receptive of it,
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: where I was like, oh, cool, we can turn heel
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: and move on because the babyface run was so just dead.
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: And he even said gratitude. I was like.
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: You know, like, and we were doing it on, they
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: were doing these weird things like during commercial breaks, they'd
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: send people out for, for promos.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: So they, we would do it during.
• 36:01
  Speaker 3: That and we get it in on like ww.com exclusive videos. But, um,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: you know, it never really got a chance. We wanted
• 36:08
  Speaker 3: to be full blown heels, but be in our head
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: where baby faces, but, Never happened.
• 36:17
  Speaker 4: No, yeah, yeah, exactly. They also, like, had us, you know,
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: become a team, and then they brought up, you know,
• 36:23
  Speaker 4: Vikings and Street Profits. Like, right away, it was like, oh,
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: my God, like, they're shining new toys. Like, we don't
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: have a chance. You know, we got to, well, let's
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: turn heel and work with them, you know, so we
• 36:32
  Speaker 4: still have a good spot.
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: For sure.
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: Right, we actually did, like, a loop of live events.
• 36:38
  Speaker 3: Maybe it was an overseas tour as heels against Street Profits,
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: and we do, like, Tribute to the Troops as heels
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: against Street Profits, but I don't think that match ever
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: airs anywhere.
• 36:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think you're right.
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: This is a very specific question. Chris Stanley, was there
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: any feedback backlash for the promo where Broski described the
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Viking Raiders as horny?
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: That was a direct line from Vince. Yeah, I remember
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: watching it back. I guess it was a pre-tape. And
• 37:04
  Speaker 3: I don't want to say it was Kapoor. Because the
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: way these pre-tapes work, it's so fucking frustrating. I always
• 37:09
  Speaker 3: prefer to do them live. Because if it's live, it's done.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
• 37:13
  Speaker 4: It's done. But if it's a pre-tape, Like, the writer
• 37:17
  Speaker 4: who's assigned to it has to watch it and approve it.
• 37:19
  Speaker 4: But then he has to get another writer who's higher
• 37:20
  Speaker 4: up than him to watch it and approve it. It's like, oh,
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: my God. And then sometimes they show, they send it
• 37:25
  Speaker 4: to Vince to watch his office. Oh, it's such a process.
• 37:27
  Speaker 4: Let's just do this baby live. It's such a process.
• 37:29
  Speaker 3: But whoever the higher up writer was, like, thought I, like,
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: ad-libbed that line.
• 37:34
  Speaker 4: I'm like, no. Like, this is written. I didn't want
• 37:37
  Speaker 4: to say this. Yeah. We thought it was lame. But
• 37:40
  Speaker 4: I think Vince thought it up and, like, popped himself. Yeah.
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: Greg DePaoli, he's really getting his money's worth here. Will
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: Brian ever do the short hair again? Truly one of
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: my favorite Myers looks.
• 37:52
  Speaker 4: Oh, never, no.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Never?
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: One of my biggest mistakes in my career was cutting
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: my hair.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: All right, Greg DePaoli again.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: I can't wrestle with it. I was just so used
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: to it, accustomed to it. I felt, like, awkward in
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: the ring. And then, like, the compromise was the, you know,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: the 2015-16 hair that Daniel Bryan has now for some reason.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Mm-hmm.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: And then at least had something to move while I
• 38:16
  Speaker 4: worked and stuff. But yeah, it was a bad idea.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: All right, Greg asks, we've kind of talked about this.
• 38:22
  Speaker 1: How blind is the draft truly for wrestlers? People such
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: as Cena or Taker must know where they're going. Is
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: there ever anger in the locker room backstage staff due
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: to any of these switches? With the current product, does
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: the draft even matter like.
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: It used to? I don't think the draft ever really mattered.
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: It doesn't really matter. All that matters is your life schedule, right?
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: If you're leaving on this day and coming back on
• 38:44
  Speaker 4: that day, that's all that really matters.
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: Or the people you ride with.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: For whatever reason, it is real. I do believe top, top,
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: top guys know what they're doing. But everyone else, they
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: just keep in the dark and kind of like fuck with.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: It's very bizarre.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: And I feel like back in the day, they deliberately
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: broke couples up and stuff like that.
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, for sure.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: But now they don't do that. I think every couple's
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: on the same brand.
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: You.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: Know?
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: Okay, Greg asks again, did you notice access with higher-ups
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: like Vince Triple H was different as time went on
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: in the WWE, or was it consistent throughout? Like your
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: access to those guys.
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: The access is, the access is, well, here's one thing.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: When we first started, Vince was a lot more accessible
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: because he'd be running rehearsals. You know, like, you know,
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: for instance, if someone's cutting a promo on the show
• 39:39
  Speaker 3: and we have rehearsals for that, or if there's like
• 39:42
  Speaker 3: a big spot, a big physicality thing, there's rehearsals for that.
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: So Vince is, was at ringside handling that. Now, I mean,
• 39:50
  Speaker 3: I can't speak for right now because I'm not there,
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: but towards the end of our careers there, he wasn't
• 39:55
  Speaker 3: out there by the ring.
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: He'd always be in his office. Johnny Hicks would do that. Right.
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: So it was a lot harder because you wouldn't just
• 40:03
  Speaker 3: necessarily see him out by the ring or walking the halls.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: If you wanted to get to Vince, you have to
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: literally set up shop outside his office and hope to
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: see him that day.
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: It was never a guarantee.
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: You just gotta man up and do it. You can't
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: just there's no point. You know, you gotta complain about nothing, basically.
• 40:22
  Speaker 4: You gotta go straight to the source. But, he's there
• 40:27
  Speaker 4: if you do that. You know what I mean? It's
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: not like you can't talk to him.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it's a guarantee you'll get in with
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: him that particular day, but.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: If you wait... I also would always just wait until
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: everyone gets out of the meeting and say, hey, is
• 40:40
  Speaker 4: he in a great mood today or is he in
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: a bad mood? Oh, right, right. If they say, oh no, man,
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: he was a miserable prick today, it's like, okay, then
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: my grievance can wait. You know, and they say, man,
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: he's all smiles and making jokes. And it's like, okay, sweet.
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: Let's go see him.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: All right, Greg. So Landon Bumgarner asked a question. I,
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: that doesn't pertain to anything. Greg asks again, uh, now
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: you sort of, you'd said that your goal was to
• 41:04
  Speaker 1: get back into WWE, but like, I'm going to change
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: this question a little bit. That doesn't really happen often.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: So was it like this, high goal of yours? Like
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: hopefully that can happen, but I'm going to focus on
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: this stuff or was, was that like your main focus?
• 41:22
  Speaker 4: No, it wasn't my main focus. I was still, you know, 28, 29.
• 41:25
  Speaker 4: I thought I was pretty young. Yep. Yeah. I don't know.
• 41:29
  Speaker 4: I just, that's what, that's what I wanted. I thought
• 41:31
  Speaker 4: that's where I like belonged, you know? Yep.
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And there was, there's no, um, AEW at this time,
• 41:41
  Speaker 4: you know, I just, It kind of is what it is.
• 41:44
  Speaker 4: The impact was pretty fledgling. It was the only game
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: in town. I'd already had so many ties there and connections. Right.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: All your friends there. Landon Bumgarner asks, was there excitement
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: doing the run-in slash save to reunite versus just being
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: paired in a match?
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah. It was cool.
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: I totally was excited for it because it was a
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: breath of fresh fucking air. I was literally doing nothing.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Like I said, hadn't been on TV in over a year.
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: I feel like maybe the show that would have been
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: the year, like I'm in a battle royal. Maybe we're
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: both in the final four of a battle royal or something.
• 42:26
  Speaker 4: Remember that, Brian? That's before we get together. That's the
• 42:30
  Speaker 4: only reason I really remember that. That's one of the
• 42:32
  Speaker 4: first times. And I knew it was going to happen.
• 42:35
  Speaker 4: That's one of the first times I started getting cheered.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: I remember that, yeah. I became like a lovable loser.
• 42:41
  Speaker 4: You know, the character became endearing. It's like you lose
• 42:43
  Speaker 4: so many matches in a row. Like, how do you
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: boo this guy anymore? You know, he's out here every
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: week trying at least. And then they purposely had me
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: in there pretty late. And then I think Baron Corbin
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: throws me out and got like a really big reaction. Yeah.
• 42:56
  Speaker 4: Which I thought was, you know, cool. It's flattering. Hell yeah.
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: All right. This is an interesting one. I don't know
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: if I know this answer. Brian, cheers. You've already told
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: the story about meeting with Vince and getting the spot
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: at Mania 35 versus The Revival. But what did you
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: guys do after WrestleMania 35 title win? Did you stay
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: for the whole show, leave early to spend time with family? Also,
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: did you have any conversations with The Revival about how
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: they felt about losing the streak?
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: Well, a couple of things.
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: So let's quickly talk about that Vince story because not
• 43:26
  Speaker 3: everyone knows it. It's a couple of weeks before Mania.
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: Brian and I, we both assume we're in this battle royale.
• 43:33
  Speaker 4: And I want to pitch.
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: I have this idea that I will sacrifice myself and
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: let him eliminate me. He'll win in his hometown and
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: the streak. We go to Vince with that. We also
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: had to go to Vince because for some reason you
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: have to submit your gear for WrestleMania for Vince's approval.
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: And I knew right away I'm not sending this in
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: because they'll find a reason to say no.
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: Brian, of course, sent his in. Vince says no.
• 44:00
  Speaker 3: So we have to go in there to pitch this idea.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: and for Brian to convince Vince to let him wear
• 44:06
  Speaker 3: this jet skier.
• 44:07
  Speaker 4: I had a pretty good read in the room, though.
• 44:10
  Speaker 4: I could tell that Vince had no interest in our
• 44:15
  Speaker 4: pitch very early on into the pitch. Instantly. Someone kind
• 44:20
  Speaker 4: of smart as of any way that there was that
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: SNL involvement in that match, and there's just no way
• 44:25
  Speaker 4: to take it over. So me, I'm just like, man,
• 44:30
  Speaker 4: my hope. determination here is to get my gear approved
• 44:33
  Speaker 4: because if I can't wear this, I'm going to have
• 44:36
  Speaker 4: no gear. No one's going to make my gear, you know,
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: 10 days out and whatever. So that's what had me
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: like fired up.
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: So yeah, so we leave that meeting knowing, okay, at
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: least we tried to get that approved.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: The pitch approved.
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: Didn't happen, but Vin said that Brian could wear the gear.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: So whatever, it's a win.
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: A couple of days later, I'll never forget. I'm at
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: California Grill. A very nice restaurant at the Contemporary Hotel
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: at Disney. And John Cohn calls me and tells me
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: that we're going to be going for the tag team
• 45:13
  Speaker 3: titles at WrestleMania.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: I'm like, what? How did this happen?
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: Because at the time, we're doing nothing. The team is
• 45:20
  Speaker 3: back together. Not that it has flopped, but they haven't
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: done anything with it.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: And the Revival... It got lost in the WrestleMania shuffle. Yeah.
• 45:28
  Speaker 4: As expected, though. Sure.
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: But Revival are in something with Bobby Roode and Gable
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: to have these kick-ass matches on the live events. So
• 45:36
  Speaker 3: if anybody, quote-unquote, deserved the match at Mania, it would
• 45:40
  Speaker 3: have been Gable and Roode. But, I mean, I have
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: to believe it's because we went in there and talked
• 45:45
  Speaker 3: to Vince and reminded him, hey, we're the hometown kids.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: And the losing streak.
• 45:50
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: And the Jets gear.
• 45:53
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: It all fits.
• 45:54
  Speaker 4: I do think it all triggered something. Yes.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: So, I mean, of course you never know, but, but
• 46:00
  Speaker 3: of course I'm hoping that we win. Of course, you know,
• 46:04
  Speaker 3: how great would that be? And, and because of the,
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: if it wasn't for the streak, I don't think we
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: necessarily would have won. You know, if we were just
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: two hometown guys.
• 46:12
  Speaker 4: No, no way. Uh, a lot to the story then.
• 46:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah. There was just so many things lined up, you know, um,
• 46:20
  Speaker 3: And we have that moment, that incredible moment, which I've
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: said before. Of course, one of my career highlights, 100%
• 46:29
  Speaker 3: winning the tag team titles with Bryan at WrestleMania. We
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: never got to walk down that aisle at WrestleMania as partners. Yes,
• 46:37
  Speaker 3: we did the edgehead thing, which was cool. But never
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: as Hawkins and Ryder wrestling in a tag team match.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: So this is super special. And the best part was like, okay,
• 46:46
  Speaker 3: I had my IC title moment, but this moment was Brian's,
• 46:49
  Speaker 3: but I was a part of it, and B, I
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: had the best seat in the house.
• 46:53
  Speaker 4: Obviously, I know what's going to happen. I'm taken out
• 46:56
  Speaker 4: on the floor, and I hear the crowd. I have
• 46:59
  Speaker 4: goosebumps right now just talking about it.
• 47:00
  Speaker 3: They're chanting for him, and I know, well, fuck, he's
• 47:03
  Speaker 3: about to fucking roll up Dawson, one, two, three. So
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: that pop was just incredible, and I literally had the
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: best seat in the house.
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: I had the second best seat.
• 47:10
  Speaker 4: Just laying there on the floor. Mark and Vinny had
• 47:13
  Speaker 4: pretty good seats. But to answer the question, we all
• 47:17
  Speaker 4: had to stay to watch Kofi on the monitor, and
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: then we left. I remember I left as Batiste's music
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: was playing. I was so hungry and so relieved, and
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: I just wanted to get to the after party, and
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: all I wanted was sushi, and there was no sushi,
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: and I was pretty devastated. I think it was the
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: first year with no sushi. Yeah, I couldn't believe it.
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: And then I know we watched the match back on
• 47:41
  Speaker 4: Dawson's phone at a table at one point. Um, and
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: I also remember Ricky, the dragon steamboat giving us feedback
• 47:49
  Speaker 4: on and saying he liked it so much.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Uh, there's a, there's a great picture of Pat Patterson,
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: like grabbing us at the after party.
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: And he, of course gets a candid shot of it.
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 48:00
  Speaker 3: Um, it was just a, you know, I think everyone's
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: on cloud nine after WrestleMania, but especially if, you know,
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: you win a title.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah. And you know, it was super great. Super. It
• 48:11
  Speaker 4: was such a, such a great night. And I, I,
• 48:14
  Speaker 4: I feel like a.
• 48:16
  Speaker 3: Lot of the roster were very.
• 48:19
  Speaker 4: Happy for us. Because they saw what we both had
• 48:24
  Speaker 4: been through for so long.
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: It was definitely a feel-good moment. I didn't feel jealousy
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: or anything. Someone always told me this, and I always
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: thought it was so cool, that the girls' locker room
• 48:35
  Speaker 4: erupted when we won. Oh, wow. I always thought that's
• 48:38
  Speaker 4: a cool thing to say. The who erupted? Like, the
• 48:43
  Speaker 4: entire female locker room, like, popped when we won.
• 48:47
  Speaker 1: How do you know that? Somebody told you?
• 48:49
  Speaker 4: Dana Brooke told me that.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's cool.
• 48:51
  Speaker 4: She said everyone was so happy. Of course. That's a
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: feel-good thing.
• 48:54
  Speaker 1: Everybody does.
• 48:54
  Speaker 4: Someone tells you that.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: You know who else erupted? Bill McKenna.
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: Live. Bill McKenna. And he hates Rosie. It's funny.
• 49:03
  Speaker 3: And he was the one who put the X-Nay on
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: getting us figures. So it's kind of ironic.
• 49:08
  Speaker 4: And that's a shoot, dude.
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: How does WWE handle any contract situations as individuals currently
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: has with independent companies? If you have a fig slash
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: merch deal signed with a third party and then you
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: get signed?
• 49:20
  Speaker 4: It just won't. They won't do it. I don't think.
• 49:23
  Speaker 1: Got it.
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: No, I think he means like, for instance, Brian had
• 49:26
  Speaker 3: that FTC deal.
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 49:29
  Speaker 3: But then like WWE didn't have to buy it out,
• 49:31
  Speaker 3: but then did anyway, right?
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: Is that what happened? Yeah, it was.
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: Real shady.
• 49:36
  Speaker 4: Which I also said, don't do this. This is Brian Myers.
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: You're making Kurt Hawkins... And then I think it's just
• 49:42
  Speaker 4: such small potatoes at WWE. They just want it to
• 49:44
  Speaker 4: go away.
• 49:44
  Speaker 1: Uh, how much interaction did the pair of you have
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: with NXT at this point in time? And how did
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: it differ from the old FCW days?
• 49:56
  Speaker 3: So this is kind of a crazy story.
• 49:59
  Speaker 4: This just popped in my head actually.
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: So the WrestleMania on sale party in Dallas, uh, for
• 50:09
  Speaker 3: WrestleMania 32, I'm there wrestling as like NXT put on matches.
• 50:14
  Speaker 4: So the hype bros, we wrestle, uh.
• 50:17
  Speaker 3: Blake and Murphy and I'm there just, I'm like, you know,
• 50:20
  Speaker 3: I'm just having a match. And then months later I
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: go on to win the title, the intercontinental title and
• 50:27
  Speaker 3: that same arena. I remember before, before we even got
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: back together, We were booked to do the WrestleMania on-sale
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: party at MetLife against the Bollywood Boys.
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: Nightmare situation.
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: So I even got matching gear because we weren't together yet.
• 50:46
  Speaker 3: And then there was a snowstorm and it got canceled.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: But isn't that crazy? We would have had the match
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: at the on-sale party and then months later win the titles.
• 50:55
  Speaker 4: The worst part is the boys are ribbing us because
• 50:57
  Speaker 4: we were going to have to put the Singh Brothers
• 50:59
  Speaker 4: over because of my losing streak. I couldn't.
• 51:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 51:03
  Speaker 4: Wasn't going to end it at an on sale party
• 51:05
  Speaker 4: thing you know but then you have to lose the
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Singh Brothers who I think also like had never won
• 51:11
  Speaker 4: a match or whatever it was like pretty shitty situation
• 51:16
  Speaker 4: and then if you know the Singh Brothers they can
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: be fairly annoying and like they would just come up
• 51:20
  Speaker 4: to us it felt like every week and talk about
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: it until it happened and then it finally got cancelled
• 51:24
  Speaker 4: and I was like what a blessing from the wrestling.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: Gods general question from Mark Vickchniknich Throughout your time wrestling,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: if you guys ever went to the bars or clubs,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: would people try to F with you because you're wrestlers
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: and they say it's fake?
• 51:42
  Speaker 4: No. I'm sure it's happened a couple of times. Yeah.
• 51:45
  Speaker 4: Very rarely. Just ignore it. It's an old school problem,
• 51:50
  Speaker 4: I would say.
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: Isaac Ortiz, who was the little birdie who told you
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: to start the podcast anyways?
• 51:55
  Speaker 4: Can't say. Can't say, but we're forever in debt to
• 52:00
  Speaker 4: that person. It was Seamus. Seamus.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: Joe Iede, can you talk about your perspective on the
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: plane being delayed at Crown Jewel? Do you guys want
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: to talk about that?
• 52:10
  Speaker 4: No, I'm not talking about that. I'd rather skip that. Skipping!
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Jonathan Wilhelm, did Brian keep the cane after his run?
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I think all said and done, there's probably like
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: five canes in the whole run because they break and whatever.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: You sold a few, right?
• 52:27
  Speaker 4: I sold a few. I think I have two still left. Okay. Oh,
• 52:31
  Speaker 4: we have the same one, though. Oh, it's always the
• 52:34
  Speaker 4: same cane? Like, always the same style. Okay.
• 52:37
  Speaker 3: So, like, you have the cane that's on your Mattel figures?
• 52:41
  Speaker 3: Do you have that cane? Yeah, because it's the same style,
• 52:44
  Speaker 3: same thing.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: Chaz Roman, where does I Smell Collusion, I Smell It
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Real Bad come from? Or did you guys just make
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: it up?
• 52:51
  Speaker 3: It comes from Jody Hamilton in Deep South. Go listen
• 52:54
  Speaker 3: to those Deep South episodes.
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Yes. But it's really, he didn't say that in real life.
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: He did a pre-tape one time where he's like the
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: commissioner character and he says it.
• 53:06
  Speaker 1: Joe, you guys talked about winning the titles in 2008
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: and guys who have been there longer not too happy
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: at having to put you over. I don't remember that,
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: but I guess you might have. 10 years later, did
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: you feel any heat again from people who might have
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: felt like you took their opportunity or thought you're.
• 53:25
  Speaker 4: No, and if I did, I don't give a fuck. No, yeah.
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: Like we kind of said before, I really did feel
• 53:30
  Speaker 4: like everybody was very happy for us. And if there
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: was anyone who didn't like it, tough shit.
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: Jason Dunsel is asking about Silent Library, which is not
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: around this time, and we've.
• 53:41
  Speaker 4: Talked about that before. Not even close. Uh.
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: Diego Brito, once the pod started to pick up steam,
• 53:48
  Speaker 1: were you guys ever worried that WWE would try to
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: do something to put a pause to it somehow? Yes, 100%.
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: I can speak to that.
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: There was a couple times I remember Broski's like, they
• 53:59
  Speaker 1: want to talk about the podcast. And I'm like at
• 54:01
  Speaker 1: real work going, oh, no.
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: It doesn't make any sense because we offered it so
• 54:07
  Speaker 4: many times initially. And then we just had to do
• 54:10
  Speaker 4: it on our own. But then also at this time,
• 54:12
  Speaker 4: and WWE's really cracked down on it, Everybody had all
• 54:16
  Speaker 4: these endeavors they were doing, whether it was a clothing
• 54:19
  Speaker 4: line or a podcast or whatever, and they were just
• 54:22
  Speaker 4: letting people do it, you know? Right. So I was like,
• 54:25
  Speaker 4: why would they come after us before they get so-and-so
• 54:29
  Speaker 4: or something else?
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Greg DiPoli, Broski. When Natty grabbed your hog in
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: the SmackDown Live group photo, what is your reaction?
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: She didn't. It's just the way the screenshot is taken.
• 54:46
  Speaker 4: It's insane. If you watch it, it doesn't happen. Yeah,
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: so I don't know who screen grabbed that and how
• 54:51
  Speaker 4: they did it.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: So her hand's moving by.
• 54:52
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's like lightning fast that you don't see it. Yeah.
• 54:56
  Speaker 4: But it made for an incredible screen grab that's literally
• 54:58
  Speaker 4: gone viral.
• 55:00
  Speaker 1: Oh, man, it's great.
• 55:03
  Speaker 4: It was the anniversary of it a couple days ago.
• 55:05
  Speaker 4: I sent it to Tyson Kidd.
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: All right, so we're coming up on an hour, and
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: there's still a ton of questions. And I still have
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: a lot of questions about this run. I mean, I
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: think part of the reason it's so fresh in our minds, right? Like,
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: all of us, we just sort of, like, lived it.
• 55:22
  Speaker 1: There's more to this. There's more to the podcast. We
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: didn't even scratch the surface with the early podcast stuff
• 55:27
  Speaker 1: and the WWE. So I think we should make this
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: a part two. What do you guys think?
• 55:33
  Speaker 3: At least because, I mean, there's so many things that
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: are very important.
• 55:36
  Speaker 4: Like, for instance....
• 55:39
  Speaker 3: Walking the fine line with the podcast, knowing what we
• 55:42
  Speaker 3: could and couldn't get away from knowing, okay, we need.
• 55:45
  Speaker 4: Photos to use for the podcast.
• 55:47
  Speaker 3: So let's take them with, you know, you know, with
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: the WWE, you know, uh, backdrop, you know, not the
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: WWE logo, but like at the, at the arenas where the,
• 55:56
  Speaker 3: you know, where the photographers take photos, but we couldn't
• 55:58
  Speaker 3: have a WWE camera take the photos because then it
• 56:00
  Speaker 3: instantly becomes WWE property. So we would do with our
• 56:03
  Speaker 3: cell phone, you know what I'm saying?
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: So stuff like that. All the original stuff is cartoons
• 56:09
  Speaker 4: of us or whatever, never a real likeness.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: There's a lot of things about, you know, the contract re-signings,
• 56:19
  Speaker 3: you know, when they offered everyone new deals. When we
• 56:22
  Speaker 3: get released, there's so much that goes into it. We
• 56:24
  Speaker 3: can't cram it into, you know, an hour, at least
• 56:28
  Speaker 3: another five. There's no way we can do it in
• 56:30
  Speaker 3: another five minutes. There's a lot of interesting things that
• 56:32
  Speaker 3: go down, like when the pandemic hits and, you know,
• 56:37
  Speaker 3: Noah thought we were going to get released.
• 56:40
  Speaker 4: 100% not.
• 56:40
  Speaker 3: It was like the furthest thing from my mind. And
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: I'll leave this as a little teaser. Brian legally could
• 56:48
  Speaker 3: not go to the tapings of Raw because it was
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: in Florida. You could not fly from Florida to New York.
• 56:54
  Speaker 4: He could not go.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: So I emailed Paul Heyman and said, like, hey, Paul,
• 56:59
  Speaker 3: just want to let you know, Brian can't make it.
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: I live in Orlando, 20 minutes away. I can do
• 57:05
  Speaker 3: singles matches. I just want to wrestle. And he writes
• 57:08
  Speaker 3: back to me like, on that Monday, okay, I'm going
• 57:10
  Speaker 3: to tell Vince, two days later, I'm fired.
• 57:14
  Speaker 4: You know? So it's not like we were like, ooh,
• 57:17
  Speaker 4: we're off. Like, no.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Like, we still wanted to wrestle. We were always trying
• 57:23
  Speaker 3: to get on the show.
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so much more to this.
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: So much more.
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: There's also the fun night. You know what's fun? One
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: of the last sort of things that you guys did
• 57:36
  Speaker 1: On Raw, me and Vinny are in the ring with
• 57:39
  Speaker 1: you guys.
• 57:40
  Speaker 4: The edgehead thing. Isn't that kind of neat? Yeah, like
• 57:43
  Speaker 4: we almost thought the edgeheads were coming back.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: There's the time we got beat up for real backstage
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: by AOP.
• 57:49
  Speaker 4: That was really fun.
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: Not like a real fight, but it was a pre-tape
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: and somebody whispered into the ear to fuck us up,
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: which I don't appreciate.
• 57:59
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like to fuck us up. It was like.
• 58:01
  Speaker 4: We don't care if you really hurt them. Which is
• 58:03
  Speaker 4: the same thing! I know.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: Who said that?
• 58:07
  Speaker 4: It wasn't like we don't like them, beat them up.
• 58:09
  Speaker 4: It was like, if they get hurt, we don't care. Yeah. Yeah,
• 58:13
  Speaker 4: pretty much.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: That is click... If they get hurt, we don't care.
• 58:19
  Speaker 4: That's the name of this episode.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: No, no, no.
• 58:21
  Speaker 4: That wasn't a quote, but that was definitely the vibe.
• 58:24
  Speaker 4: For sure. A lot of... Listen, we....
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: We took that year, especially with the podcast. I think
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: it's also a story of we're doing this podcast every
• 58:36
  Speaker 3: week in person. Pandemic hits. We're like, oh, shit. How
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: are we going to do this?
• 58:41
  Speaker 4: And now, look, I don't even like doing the podcast.
• 58:43
  Speaker 4: I don't want a pack of my equipment. I love
• 58:45
  Speaker 4: doing it at home. Oh, my God.
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: I know, right?
• 58:48
  Speaker 4: Yes.
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: And now, also, it got Mark to be like, really
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: a character on the show because he'd come in every
• 58:55
  Speaker 3: once in a while when we were recording.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you guys did it in New York, yeah.
• 58:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 58:59
  Speaker 4: Mark, was that weird for you, like we would do
• 59:01
  Speaker 4: it and then you don't even know what was said,
• 59:03
  Speaker 4: like you're hearing it for the first time?
• 59:05
  Speaker 1: Well, it was.
• 59:06
  Speaker 4: weird now.
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, when you think about it, it sucked because
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: I had to listen to every single word to make
• 59:11
  Speaker 1: sure that, you know, whatever.
• 59:12
  Speaker 3: So now I also, I also had to listen to
• 59:15
  Speaker 3: it and give Mark like editing notes.
• 59:17
  Speaker 4: If we said something drastic, we shouldn't say.
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: I remember too, actually early on, this is so not
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: even a thing, but early on your guys, you guys
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: want to edit my podcast. I'm like, yeah, sure. So
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: that first episode or second episode, I'm cutting out full
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: lines and bits. I'm like, all right, this is going
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: on too long. Nobody wants to hear about this or
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: this stutter or whatever. And Broski listens to the first one.
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: He's like, where's that thing that I said? And I'm like, oh,
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: I cut it. And he's like, put it back in.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: So I realized early on it wasn't necessarily like an editing,
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: like I'm making this a tight piece. You listen to podcasts.
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: Like Entourage.
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: Entourage podcast. They stop stories mid-story.
• 59:59
  Speaker 4: Who's editing that? Really?
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's weird, man. You're like, they definitely talked for
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: 15 more minutes about that.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: Right.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: And somebody cut it. But that's kind of what I
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 1: thought I was going to be doing. But, yeah, I
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: had to cut all the swears and listen to it.
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: But to be honest, I liked it. And I'll say
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: this right here. Please don't tell my job. But you
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: guys record on Mondays. And I would go into work
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: on Tuesday. And I would... I would make my breakfast
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: and I would sit at the computer and it's audio.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: So you can't see what I'm editing. So I'm just
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 1: editing on my computer and everybody just thinks I'm working.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: So Tuesdays were great because I would edit the podcast
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: from like, you know, whatever, 8.30 in the morning until noon.
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: That was half my day.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: Wow. Count the clock, huh?
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't tell me.
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 4: Count down those hours.
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: Anyway, we'll talk about more stuff, but here's what I
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: want people to do because it's fresh in your mind.
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 1: Because if I ask for another thread, and I will
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: in a month, you're going to forget. So while you're
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: listening to this, go to the thread of this post,
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: this audio or video podcast you can comment on. Ask
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: questions for part two in that. So while you're listening,
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: while you're watching, something jogs in your mind. about what
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: you want to hear about, please write it right there,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: and I'll use those questions next month when we take
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: a part two.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll tell the story how Brian and I, we
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: got in a fight. Not a real fight, but we
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 3: were blaming each other who fucked up the double team
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 3: finish in Saudi Arabia.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 4: A lot of cool stuff we have. We have a
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 4: lot of stuff in the tank. All right. We flew
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 4: all the way over here to just botch one move
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: and leave. What a trip.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: Oh, my God. Oh.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 3: We'll talk about the time where I forgot what was
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 3: going on in a match with Ziggler and Bobby Roode.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 4: Let's get a couple blackouts in this run. I thought
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 4: his career was over.
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: How about when he said he didn't wrestle heavy machinery?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 4: That was scary. I didn't wrestle. There's a live event
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 4: with Street Profits. He won't get in. He keeps tagging
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 4: me in. And then he just forgets how to punch
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: and kick. He couldn't do anything. Yeah, I forgot it
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 4: would be a heel.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: Well, now he's doing great. Now he's having 32-minute matches
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: on indies. All right. We're out of time. Thanks, guys.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: We'll see you next month. Heart Foundation, you're the best.
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: See you, guys.
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: One, two, three.
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  Speaker 1: I'll be back, Jack.
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 4: Thank you.