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NFL Week 4 Review: Winners, Losers & Fantasy Football · 4th & Tea | NFL UK Podcast

• Liam: How wait what's going on? 4th&Tea: Right, Browns won, beat Steelers, James, what's your thoughts and the Browns? Liam: Austin's a beast. Done. 4th&Tea: Class. Liam: Easy. See you later. Brown's in the bin still. Anyway, three and one Browns. Right. Onto the next one. James with you and his Colts at the commanders in London. I was going to say, they're not really at the commanders. Yeah. Colts commanders in London. 30 Colts, 13 commanders. Jonathan Taylor. absolute beast, as I think everyone knows. Just shy of 100 yards rushing at 95 and two touchdowns. I also didn't realize he's got long braids. I think because I always see him with a helmet on. I saw a video of him. He's got I didn't even recognize him. He was talking about how much he likes London and the countryside and all sorts. yeah, not guess that. So I thought I'd bring that up. It's key to understanding the NFL is understanding what everyone's hair looks like. Danny Dimes. quarterback, ex-giant, you know, some people still like over here, some people don't. But he had a really impressive game on the ground with two yards rushing, but he did get a touchdown. So he got in. And I think probably the biggest thing in this game was on the commander's side with Mariota. So their backup quarterback, who actually has been doing pretty well, has got an MCL string. And I think he's undergoing tests, but... I saw that was his second one in a matter of weeks, the other one being pre-season. So he could be out for a few weeks. Does that mean that they have to rush Jaden Daniels back with that funny dodgy elbow he's got on the arm brace? A horrible elbow. Or are they going with, see if I can say this, Kaliak Manis. Is that it? Kaliak Manis. Kaliak Manis. That was going to be my question. How on earth do you say that man's name? I know. And is that Greek? I always think K is Greek. Maybe he's going to go to the Olympics for flag football 4th&Tea: Yeah. Liam: for Greece. Yeah, but he was all right though. 4th&Tea: Wasn't it his first name's like A yeah. His first name's like Athan. Liam: Ethan. It's like, it's like his second. 4th&Tea: Yeah. Yeah, it's like Aethan Yeah. Liam: It's like his second name has too many letters and he's forgot Nathan, the N in his first name. it's all over the 4th&Tea: Yeah. Liam: place. But, I saw that he was, he's the rookie quarterback. So they're really down to the bare bones, but he was all right. He did. He had that long touchdown. So I think it was trail on books. It was about 50 odd yards right in the bread basket. he's also a Rutgers boy. He went there for a few years. So that's a new Jersey connection. to you. Yeah. for I don't know if anyone can look at the highlights as well of the best spin move I've ever seen in the NFL was he somehow he has the ball. He's running into defenders and there's a full 360 degree spin move about 10 yards before the defender who then just creams him. So I think he's got the spin ability, the timings way off. So he might have to work on that. He just basically put himself off balance and then creamed but yeah, so I think the Colts winning, think, you know, I didn't, I think, I don't think it was a 17 point game in the end. I think it was closer than the scoreline suggests, but the commander's going down. Sorry, my dog's around. The commander's going down to their third string quarterback at the end. They're away from home. Good win. Good win for the Colts. Yeah. I mean, for the next London game, I realised that all of the NFL teams stay around the corner from me. So I'm going to see if they can let people in, watch the training. It's literally like five minutes down the road at the... the groove, you know, if anybody knows good, the good golf courses of the UK, that's where they're at. So I'm going to have a sneaky peek next time. Yeah. One thing to note, I've seen that the Colts are talking about getting Marvin Harrison, Jr. In a trade because as much as they, they weren't, and obviously probably largely to do with the commander's quarterback situation, the, the, sorry, the Colts wide receivers. Who are they passing to? We've been talking about some of these terrible wide receiver rooms. Alan is out at the beginning of the game. You know, they've got Warren, but you probably want to be thrown into a wide receiver. They've got Josh Downs, but I mean, he's more of like a decent slot guy. He's not your ex guy. Like you want to be peppering. Yeah. Harrison, I could see him there. I could see him there. Harrison number two or number three at the Colts. Might not be a bad shout. And I saw as well that they, you know, the scouts are reckoning it might be a, cause what was he? was, he wasn't number one overall. he number like three overall when he went, he was the top few. Yeah. 4th&Tea: He was up there, yeah. Liam: But I think a lot of people are saying that he would be valued at like a day three pick. So around four, around five. So I think if that, if the, yeah, who are they? The team, the Arizona, if they would actually let him go for a day four, I think no, why wouldn't you take a flyer on that? Yeah. I agree. I mean, I mean, he caught a touchdown pass, you know, this week. He was dreadful apart from that. 4th&Tea: First catch of the season. Liam: First catch of season, as did tell us. 4th&Tea: That was his first catch. Yeah, yeah. Liam: It was. So yeah, Colts being the commanders. Jamie, any quick thoughts before we go on? 4th&Tea: Well, my tip in fantasy was to bench Jonathan Taylor 'cause the commanders had the the best Russian defence the last two weeks. So shout out don't listen to me. Liam: was gonna say come back here for more great tips next week. 4th&Tea: Yeah. Liam: Awesome, right. Onto the next one. Jamie, it's with you and it's the Titans at the fourth and T Ravens. 4th&Tea: Yeah, I mean, this one finished a lot closer than it actually was twenty four eighteen to the Ravens. Was always gonna be the Ravens. Realistically the main talking point is Lamar Jackson's injury to his ankle following this following this game with I think was it Huntley coming in as well for the s most of the second half, I think it was. Yeah, Tyler Huntley coming in. So Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I mean Liam: Snoop Huntly, yeah. I know the nicknames, I'm down with the kids. 4th&Tea: he exactly, yeah. The I was gonna make height joke then, but the yeah, it was obviously Kin Derek as well got a got a touchdown. Lamar Jackson had two passing touchdowns. It was pretty much game over at half time. and then the Titans made it look a little bit better in the fourth quarter, but this was this was never one. The Titans look horrendous. Baltimore are good team. and yeah, finish twenty four eighteen. We n we always knew it was gonna be the Ravens, realistically, didn't we? Liam: I mean, we called it out. think one thing to note on the Titan side, they're going to have to start to wake up somewhere on offense and take getting more than a hundred yards. That's a good start. They need to start using him. Yep. 4th&Tea: Pollard got a touchdown. Tony Pollard got a touchdown. That's good. Liam: Lean on that running game and just hyper target, carnal take a little bit and see if you can start to put something together. yeah. there we go, James, anything on the Titans or the Ravens? I'd say Ravens specifically. Over the course of about 45 minutes in different times, you've been telling me that a raven is a type of crow. Yeah. So, I don't know if I believe you, but you keep telling me about it for some reason. So, yeah. 4th&Tea: J what is it with these fat 'cause like l the other week you said the Seahawk is an osprey. Like what what's going on? Liam: A seahawk is an osprey and a raven is a double crow. Yeah. He's a, I'm a Twitch. I'm a Twitcher. I'm about my birds, you know, and the Cardinals are in the bin. There we go. That's it. Right. Onto the next one. James, it's with you and it's the rams at the Eagles. Another bird. Yeah, this was a So this was an impressive game in terms of the ending here. I was locked in on the Giants game and kind of keeping an eye on the scores, saw that the Eagles were pretty comfortably up with not very long to go. And then suddenly, dun dun dun, Eagles lose. Great for the Giants. So final score, 24 Rams, 20 Eagles. So then they're now both two and two. Interestingly though, bit of a fact. Eagles were up 20 points to 10 with just a few minutes ago, giving them a 3.2 % win probability. And they managed to lose. They've done extremely well with that. I think that the story of the game really was Eagles defense up until probably the last four minutes was actually really good. I think it was keeping them in the game just about, but their offense was terrible. Jalen Hurts, less than 100 yards throwing. Although two touchdowns, they've got to score the 20 points somehow. So on the one hand, is that very efficient or is that actually just lucky? Yeah, that's that'll probably be my argument. Barclay also going down injured quite early on. And again, as a Giants fan, I know that once he starts going down, it is usually a slippery slope. not looking good for the Eagles, who also had Devante Smith not playing. And I think it could be a few weeks for him. So yes, some opportunity for others to step up, but not exactly looking good. and like I say, when Kyron Williams, when you're got a 3 % chance of, of losing as an Eagles, you know, as the Eagles team, and then Kyron scores on three, three minutes 59 and one 10, two rushing touchdowns just kind of dominated really. So the damn broke Rams win. saw Sean McVay were absolutely mad on the sideline. He was jumping up and down a lot, actually. So I think it was a good win for them. But yeah, I think it's more of an Eagles collapse after a poor offensive showing than really the Rams dominating this game, but they get the win. 4th&Tea: Yeah, good day to have both Saquon Barkley and Jalen Hurts in your fantasy, for me. So sensational. do you know what? Liam: You really are the fantasy god over here. 4th&Tea: I'm I'm in three different leagues and I yeah, I've won two out of three at the weekend, so I'll take it. But you know, yeah, well it wasn't great. But yeah, Liam: Better than me. There you go. 4th&Tea: the to be fair, the last time the only good thing for the Eagles last time they were two and two, they went on to win the Super Bowl. So there you go. That's one Liam: Nice. 4th&Tea: bit of encouragement, but they look awful. But you know. Liam: They, they do. Like they don't look like we've been talking about successful mediocrity. I really think that today, like today it just showed like the, the Eagles and the Rams, they'll say two of the biggest disappointments of the season. don't like neither of them look like an obvious Superbowl team. And I don't, I think you'd be gobsmacked at the beginning of the season. If you said the Eagles and the Rams are both going to be two and two. Yeah. So Not a lot to say. Let's see if either of start to pick up. mean, both teams got a lot of injuries and people to come back. Obviously Aaron Dunnard was out this week, maybe unexpectedly, even though he might be on a snap count. Bourne didn't play for the Eagles defense as well. So a couple of notable names. yeah. Right. Onto the next one. And it's with me and it's the Jaguars at the Cincinnati Bengals. So tight game. score was 22 to the Jaguars and 17, sorry, to the Bengals. So if you look at the, if you're looking at the stats, Burroughs threw the heck out of the ball in this game. Fantasy wise, you've got multiple people catching passes from Burroughs dominating the stat sheets. Like Chase Brown, T Higgins, even like Jamar Chase, like The stats looked fantastic. The problem was the Jags are efficient and they get turnovers. We've been saying that they're a really well-rounded team all year and I think this game proved it. The Bengals just, they just didn't have a tight enough ship to keep the Jags at bay who didn't look amazing on offense, but the Bengals struggled with the tight end and those up the middle seam passes all day. The running game got a little bit of success and Cam Little, had one hell of a fancy day Long, lots of and long field goals. Christian Rodriguez had a really big running touchdown as well. He is looking to take a lot more of that running game pie in Jacksonville. Bejel Tooting looked quite good at the beginning of the year, but there's a lot of chat about Liam Cohen having this connection to Christian Rodriguez before the season. And that looks like it's starting to come through. I think this is a really good game. Like I said, the Bengals are a good unit and the defense is showing up this year. I think the Jags just might be one of the most dangerous teams in the league. But I think positive for both in a way, because I think as well as the Jags are doing, I also think if you're a Bengals fan, you would take being two and two and looking okay. One thing to know on the Bengal side, Jamar Chase, how long is he going to be out for? Because that's going to hurt any team. So yeah, any thoughts boys? Sorry Dave, to you first. Jamie, if you've got anything. 4th&Tea: no, I mean are you happy that you know would Bengals fan actually be happy with a two and two record sitting bottom of the AFC North after four games after being two and Would I mean would you be happy? I don't think would you? You wouldn't, would you? After you know, Steelers Liam: Not happy. 4th&Tea: away. No, exactly, yeah. Steelers away and then you know, you should probably should have won that and then at home against the Jags, not being friends to the Steelers, they're not a playoff team. They had the chance to prove it. The Bengals are home against the Jags and they Pretty much bottled it, to be honest. Liam: I mean, I think before the season, given the start of all of the last seasons, the last four seasons, I think Bengals fans would have taken it after the two and start, two and no start. No. So yeah, I get what you're saying, but I just think, I just think this Jags team is legit. I think it says more about the, yeah, the Jags team. Every time I flick one, they just seem to be like, just an efficient machine, scoring points. They can run it. They've got speedy, you know, rushes. They got a couple of running backs. your mate, horse boy is doing really well. Parker Washington, think there was a lot of hype about him coming into the season. really wish I'd picked him up in, in fancy cause he was, he was on the cards, but he's just looking really solid. Like kind of like a, he's almost reminding me of like an almond, Ras and Brown type solid, just like not a big guy, just nippy. get space, he catches the ball well. so yeah, it's, It's a good team. Yeah. Brian Thomas getting touched down again. Like if he starts to factor a lot more into it as well. So, you know, that's just, it's pretty cool. so yeah, but the Jags come away from that one with a win and looking good. So onto the next one with you, Jamie, and it's the Cowboys at the Texans. 4th&Tea: What a game. this one finished thirty four thirty to the Cowboys. Wayne Houston. Houston now slumped to Norton four to start their season, almost season over for Hate to see it. They went they went twenty three thirteen up. You did think they were going to go on and win it, but Dallas Cowboys with Dak Prescott finally did turn up as well. So we finished with three hundred and thirty five yards, passing touchdown. Javante Williams, sixty two yards, three touchdown rushes as well. then C D Lamb, 17 receptions, 189 yards, touchdown pass well t receiving touchdown. so round off a good comeback win with about 40 seconds to go. I did think when the Cowboys scored, they did leave too much time on the clock, bit like in Rio, but this time they managed to hold on. but it was CJ Stroud on the other end. but I will say it's nice to see Nico Collins back, good one for CJ Stroud to actually have a weapon to throw to. hundred and eighteen yards, two touchdowns as well. but the Texans need a running game and they don't have it and their defense can't hold much compared to last season. but yeah, now they're down to to naught and four. Are they have they got a chance to come back with the Jack's top three and one? Probably not, right? Liam: think the fact that Nico Collins is back is a big game changer. Liam and I were talking saying they need him. And then I think he scored the first touchdown early on. I think they need that big body, but as you say, it's the running game. I thought Montgomery was going to do really well this season. He starts at that three touchdown game, and he's just been shut down to the point where actually I think Woody Marks might be their more athletic running back. which is not great for me with Montgomery as my only running back in one of my fancy leagues, but it's, yeah, they need to get that going. But you do wonder if Nico Collins coming back, if they can start getting those chunk plays, gets a bit of momentum, then Montgomery is a good player. Woody Marks is athletic. So I can see them turning it around and they've still got that defense, but it's gonna be an uphill battle because the momentum is stodgy at the moment. Stodgy is a good word. Stodgy. Yeah. 4th&Tea: Stodgy. I like it. Yeah. Liam: No one wants stodgy momentum. No. And I think you need to have a high ceiling on your offense. If your defense can't shut down this Cowboys attack, you need to have a ceiling on your offense that the Texans just don't have. And I think Nico's going to help, but like I they need to unlock a running game and they need to be consistent. And CJ Stroud. just maybe isn't a megastar. He might be like a top 14 quarterback, which just might not be good enough to win shootouts with the Cowboys. Why, why top 14? Top four. You know what, Jay's I don't. Yeah. It's a very specific. was going to 4th&Tea: That's a bit of a weird number. Yeah. Liam: say, I was going to say, I was going to say top 10, but I, yeah, I want it. I didn't want to give him that much credit. So then I would 4th&Tea: No, no yeah, not count. Yeah. Liam: panicked and said 14. Yeah. 15 makes sense. 16 is half the team. 4th&Tea: Yeah. Liam: Is it? Yeah. Let's just say maybe he's like the 16th best quarterback. I'm just happy it wasn't another bird stat, really, so I'm sure that you've got another one coming later. Yeah. Okay. 4th&Tea: Still time. Liam: No, mate. I'll keep it to the bird pod. So yeah. Right. Onto the next one. And James, your debut support in team game review is the Cardinals at the Giants. Let's go big blue. I would love to say, as everyone expected, the Giants get the win. They did get the win. But I wouldn't say that it was necessarily expected. think after the Jackson Dart injury, the Brian Burns injury, there was a lot of what's the opposite of stodgy momentum, good momentum, slick momentum, fluid momentum, I'd say, especially after the Cowboys victory in week one. But it's been a bit of a shaky nerves around New York at the moment, but the Giants win 36 against the Cardinals 24. and I'd say that that this was an interesting game. Great victory, really great at the end. But the first quarter, my gosh, there were some nerves, booze around the Giants Stadium. the Cardinals were just Basically jogging down the field. Like the running game was working, they were throwing it, the Giants were all over the place. I think at one point the Cardinals went up like 14-3 or something. It was something like that, I think. but then really I think it was the Giants defense that got them back in the game. The secondary showed up, Newsom was elite. Deontay Banks, who I think is you know, he was our kick returner at the end of our season. He was a first round pick, I think twenty twenty-three. But he you know, most fans were calling to cut him. But he's really, really showing up in this new defense. And yeah, once we managed to stop the Cardinals, and again it was really in the secondary, some great pressure up front, but the secondary came came alive and then Mr. Interception himself, Jameis Jameis Famous Jameis. Yeah, famous Jameis was throwing a couple of picks that really killed momentum, but luckily we got the other other side of the coin where he threw some dimes, we scored some points. and yeah overall an impressive victory at the end when they were on first and goal, four yard yards out. They needed six points to tie or seven to win. and they had four attempts after a pretty dodgy call on the pass interference to get them there. The PA the PI calls have been terrible this year. They would it was dreadful. Yeah, 4th&Tea: They haven't they. Dreadful. Liam: but yeah, four and I think two of the throws went to McBride, who's a beast, and we just tipped it out the hand, tipped it out the hand. Final play, throw it to the end zone, banks, steps up on his on his player, catches the ball. I am screaming, go down, just kill the game. That's it. There was you know, forty seconds left, we had the timeouts. No. Sprints the whole way down, scores to give us the comfortable twelve point buffer. So great win, especially after some of the like I say at the beginning, some of the down like the the the sadness in the New York area with the Giants and Dark going down, but we've got You know, couple of winnable games coming up with three and one, a game clear in the division against the Eagles, who obviously slipped up as I said before. So hey. Looks like you've got a chance to actually just be like five, six and two. Like if you look at the schedule. I mean, the vibes are so good. Look, me and James are sat in the stadium right now. The celebrations are still going on. We haven't left. We got helicoptered in. The sky's bluer than ever. Like, check it out on the YouTube folks. But yeah, we're here. The vibes are good. So that's all we can say. I mean, yeah, the Giants check out Jameis Winston. That's a leader. I think he is he some of his social media posts are just completely elite. And he talks about his fate and like just forgetting the mistakes of the past, which is exactly what he needed to do to start throwing some of the touchdowns. And you've got a defense that can bail you out. It's a shame, but I think you've just got to see how. deep into the season you can go. And I think as much as some people want to see JJ McCarthy, the longer he doesn't show up for your team, I think is showing that they're on the right path of what they want to be. So I think, yeah. But that's all I'm gonna say. Ama amazing game. Best end of a game this week. Maybe all season. That was funny. Best end of the game this week. Yeah. I was thinking that was gonna be a little bit little bit more grand than that. But yeah. This has been 4th&Tea: This week. Liam: the best thing I've seen in the last two minutes. Well, I can guarantee that at least. So there we go. Cool. That's it. Big blue, big win. Awesome. Onto the next one. And it's the Patriots at the Buffalo Bills. So big turn up in the books for the New England Patriots. think everyone's been a bit down on this season. Quite rightly, like we said, Drake made probably the biggest fantasy disappointment of the season to date. Well, we've turned that round. So big win. They win at Buffalo 29 to 26. And the disappointment this week are the Buffalo Bills. They should be winning all their home games. Like that is a hell of an advantage of a stadium. But Drake may turned up dubs who we've mentioned on every single pod, player in the league of all players. He had a hell of a game. Like he just catching all passes that thrown his way. And then there's a big, big, big. catch by Chisholm at the end. If you get a chance to see it, Chanty Gardner Johnson calls it out and says, he is just a guy off a practice squad that got elevated that made a hell of a play. That catch is up there, full stretch diving in the air under pressure for the win. So fair play to New England. They're up off the mat. Their season is going and not a lot to say. The Bills scored points. They just couldn't stop Drake May. which makes me worry for the long term of the bills, but that's it, I think. Don't think there's massive despair apart from the disappointment of the loss of the bills, but this is a kickstart to the season for the Patriots. 4th&Tea: Annoyingly so, yeah. I did think they were out for the count to be honest. then going into Buffalo you think, another loss for the Patriots. I thought Drake May would turn the ball over a lot more than he did. and then like you said, that amazing catch at the end was an overthrow by May, and because then he's had to make that make that amazing catch to make it look good. but no fair play. really good win, unexpected, solids, yeah. What else can you say? Mike Vrabel turned up. Liam: And I think on the bill side, like the first two games, they looked unstoppable. Josh Allen in particular, just throwing rushing. was like he was, you know, playing with kids. He just looked the level above, but I'd say even last week he struggled personally, the bill like, so I know it's, know, you can have a blip, but going from two games of just dominating to suddenly not looking as good last week and now losing. Like, is that actually shaky? Like, is it too early to call that as something to watch? and the two, and the two teams have been teams we thought were struggling. Yeah. The chargers and the Patriots. Yeah. So something to watch, I think like they have to maybe that maybe they're getting, you know, they're resting on the laurels and thinking this will be easy. And actually, you know, there are no easy games. So NFL is a big boy league. So yeah. Cool. Onto the next one. Jamie with you and it's the Jets at your best. 4th&Tea: Don't like the Bears. I don't I don't like the Bears. No, Liam: No, it's Jamie, no, it's Jamie's Jets. You know it's Jamie's Jets. 4th&Tea: I I do like the Jets. There is something about them, especially, you know, Geno Smith's doing well this season. And then do you know what do you know what actually before you know, Liam, you called it. You said if if Bayent starts, they g it Jets get an inception. And after twenty games without an inception, boom, they technically got two. Obviously one got called back, but they did get an inception, but they lost, obviously, the Bears. Absolutely. Joe was mental. Every time it cut to from red zone into this game, it was j Bears had the ball. Bears had the ball. And I've looked out 42 minutes that they had the ball for against the Jets. You know, Jets had Liam: Insane. 4th&Tea: it for 17 minutes. Chicago had 89 plays, the Jets 32 in the whole entire game. And the game actually finished a lot closer than I thought it would in the end, 23-12. Jets just couldn't just couldn't handle the Bears. And the Bears, for some reason Well we know why. Tate Tyson Bajan's first starting well, technically not a start. Technically not a start. Liam: Technically, I'm glad you said this. If anybody didn't see it, the first nap of the game, Bajan and Keenan Allen, not Keenan Allen. 4th&Tea: Case. Case. There you go. Liam: Case Keenum, wow, I would have went very Rogan West there. Both started the first nap on the pitch together. So yeah. 4th&Tea: Yeah. So it actually it actually counts to the Case Keenum's starting win. So that's yeah. Proper rogue, rogue on that one. But yeah, Geno Liam: for the books. That's it. 4th&Tea: Smith on third down as well, Norton seven. So it was just a poor game for the Jets. They got close but they were never never in this game and the Bears yeah, Bears march on again. Liam: Yeah. You could almost say the jets just couldn't take off today. Just couldn't get in it. Are you good? Nice. Onto the next one. And it's me with the Packers at the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Spoiler alert, Tampa have lost again, and they're 0-4. They're in the bargain basement of the NFL. This was a bit of a toilet bowl game. Both teams have been looking pretty terrible, with some team hoping to come out of this with a result to hopefully re- reignite their season and the Green Bay Packers going 2-2 at the end of this, think is going to just be, you know, that gives the fans some hope. I'm not going to spend too much time on the Packers, like the pack, the running game got a little bit going as well and the passing games there. Quite a few of athletic hurdles by multiple receivers, which is kind of an odd thing to see just multiple times defenders being leapt over. But I'm going to go on a rant about the books. Obviously I'm into them, but You've got a a meek, a Boca, a bookie Irving's playing. I'm not sure exactly the state of his health, but why, why are we constantly using Cade on Ted Hurst, test Johnson? Like, why do we Sean took it? Like, why do we need to use every facet of this, of, of this team that isn't like a meek egg, Boca, like let's use this potentially number one wide receiver. And I'm sick of it. Like we need to just, we need to use the bits that are strong. We've got a rookie, undrafted quarterback who I think looked quite good. He's got some legs, he can complete passes. He's going to be under lots of pressure. Let's give him easy completions to our best players. He doesn't need to complete a system where he's passing it across six different players catching passes. He needs one to two reads, easy completions and bailout runs. And that's what they need to provide an inexperienced, undrafted. first start in the league, but they're trying to do some crazy spread offense, which requires high level reading and mobility and decision making. So I'm going to end the rant a little bit there, but when the books defense making as many stops and takeaways as they're making against the pitiful Green Bay Packers is what they seem like this, this minute. This, this is a win for like every other team in the league at the minute. And then the books are not helping themselves. And that's it. Bit of a rant from me. The books are looking potentially the worst team in the league to be quite honest. yeah, with Baker out for three to six weeks, I think they were saying. So, you know, that's a, that's a stint that is three, call it five weeks. And then is he coming back? Is he got, you know, his grip strength? don't know if it was his throwing hands that he did dislocated them on his throwing hand. Yeah. not sure, but I mean, yeah. Cause if it's his throwing hand, what does that look like when he comes back? But I mean, who's going to win first out of the chargers, the Texans and the books? Are they the... Probably not the books. It's got to be the Texans. The Texans probably, but like... 4th&Tea: Maybe could c could be the Titans. Liam: the Titans as well, yeah. Who would win a game 4th&Tea: Good man. Liam: out of the Texans versus the Bucks? I mean, the Titans versus the Bucks. Neither team wants to win that game, I think. It's just not a game. 4th&Tea: How how long how long has Todd Bowles got? Liam: Mate, think Tub Bowl's first head coach gone this year, I think. I just hope that Zach Robinson doesn't get elevated from offensive coordinator into the role. But there we go. Anything to say on this? Anybody else more? That wasn't a sentence, but you know what mean? I didn't catch this game, but I just saying on the Green Bay side, think that they're two receiving options, Golden and Watson, they've been looking very good, haven't they? I feel like they're kind of like a... one a one B it's it. feel like it was Watson, like securely the one a, but actually Golden's been getting a lot of targets. He's fast. He was, he was, was he a back in the first round top of the second? Like he's got a high draft capital as well. feel like. Golden was drafted in green Bay came out on the stage and there was like our problems to be fixed. But yeah, no, think they're, they're looking all right in the, but they're running game without Josh Jacobs is another he who will not be named. yes. Yeah. Allegedly. Allegedly. Yes. Allegedly. We don't know yet. We just say that anyway, just in case. Allegedly when there's a video of everything he did, Allegedly. Yeah. Yeah. Allegedly a video of everything that 4th&Tea: Yeah. Liam: happened, but yeah. Right. Anything Jamie? 4th&Tea: no, I mean I I just really enjoy the Bucks losing as a as a Panther. I it's just it's phenomenal and and do you know what? It's just really enjoy it's just so good, isn't it? That Baker getting his contract, getting injured, yeah, obviously wishing well, you know, but you know, he No, do you know you know, he's he's got enough money, he's Liam: Doesn't sound like you're wishing him well. 4th&Tea: fine. Do you know like he's doing well for himself and yeah you're the back up quarterback I thought he looked that but he looked like he looked bad like that. He did look bad. Liam: on to the next one. Jamie, we've got the dolphins at the Vikings. 4th&Tea: Woof. terrible. What a what a Liam: Woof. Not the bark. 4th&Tea: what a dreadful game of NFL action. God. I mean the the Vikings got the job done. Fifteen God, I forgot what the place was. That's how good it was. Fifteen ten in the end. lots of field goals. They just well, five of them for the Vikings. Reichards getting every single one of them. They just can't convert for some re obviously Justin Jefferson wasn't playing So that was a big that was the biggest miss for Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray just he was getting booed throughout the game as well, which was which was I mean, what do they like he's got the win? Like I you know, I'm not quite sure what they expected, but the Dolphins, what a lovely game actually for the Vikings to have because this they could have done anything they wanted to against the Dolphins. Dolphins looked awful. we did call it though, Oli Gordon got a touchdown as well. So that was probably the highlight, pulled it back to twelve ten. And then obviously the field goals made a fifteen ten near the end. Well, with about six minutes left. And then the Dolphins just never looked like getting a touchdown and winning the game or getting it close. But yeah, this was one of the games that you just you don't watch the highlights of 'cause there wasn't many. Liam: Not much to say from me. mean, the only thing is that the Vikings look good in a sense that they're winning games, but they look like a team that the wheels are going to fall off at some point. So we'll see. They roll on to four and O and you know, maybe, maybe the defense is just good enough. Maybe the books are going to hire Todd Bowles to be the head coach. I'd like that. Sorry. 4th&Tea: You love Todd Bowls. Liam: I said that so the wrong way. When they fire time balls, maybe they're going to hire Brian Flores to be the head coach. yeah, 4th&Tea: You know it's not. Brian Flores. Yeah. Liam: James, any, anything much from you? No, by the sound of it, the Vikings could really do with future MVP star JJ McCarthy, really, but we lost it. Okay. I thought that was the, yeah. a joke there with the JJ McCarthy. He was dreadful for them, wasn't he? They've been in desperate need of a quarterback over there, I think. But I think when you've got Justin Jefferson, though, like, as long as he's fit and healthy, he can he can almost carry a quarterback as opposed to like a quarterback carrying a team. So you know who they need? Kirk cousins. They need Kirk cousins back Kirk. 4th&Tea: Sam Donald? Okay. Liam: Yeah, they should have never got rid of him or Sam Donald. But anyway, I think that's enough of that. terrible game. Again, not much to say about the Dolphins, sorry. On to the next one with you, James, and it's the Broncos at the Fine Wine 49ers. That's it. And it's the Fine Wine 49ers with another win, 4-0, 24 points against the Broncos 14. Are the 49ers the best team in the NFL? Could be. I feel like I've got no argument against that. I don't think. 4th&Tea: Nor have I. Yeah. Liam: I know it's I feel like they're very good like from that week one impressive performance against the Rams. I know there was the whole you know, Australia game flying in and everything but still I think they looked very good. And it's funny because I feel like you look across, they've got a lot of old people everyone knows a lot of old people nothing against old people but if I'm having an NFL team I don't really want loads of old age pensioners out there. Kittle is coming back from it was an Achilles right? Not too long ago. He's what 32 now, something like that coming back from an Achilles and he's looking like prime Kittle. Like he's always been good at blocking, but he's, he's got his pace. Do you see him run in this? It was like a 60 yard touchdown. ran in with the receiving. So I think when he's on fire, him and Brock Purdy have a good relationship. So yeah, I think the 49s are looking very good. On the Broncos side, saw, I think Waddell scored this week. He's, I feel like they should use him more, a bit like with Agbuka, with Tampa, I feel like they're throwing the ball around to all sorts of players on the Broncos. And actually what they've wanted needed for a while is a, you know, a kind of main receiver. They've got it in Waddle, yet when they've used him, he's done well. And then he's just gone quiet for other games. So I also think they need the rookie Jonah Coleman back. It might be a bit of a crazy take, but I think Dobbins is, you know, he's had some, he's been good in the past despite the injuries, but between him and Harvey on the ground, they went 18 for 65 between them. So they really haven't got the running game, but Harvey as a receiver had 10 receptions for 68 yards. So not massive yardage, but so I think actually I've got a feeling that Dobbins will be phased out when Coleman comes back. He looked very good. He's a big chunky cannonball of a bloke. so I think that will, that will help the Broncos in the long run. but yeah, really it's how good are the 49ers looking and how good's Debo Samuel looking? He's rushing, he's receiving, he's doing hooks and trick plays. Jamie said it last week, Debo, mate, 4th&Tea: Debo's on it. Liam: they're turning back time at the old age 49ers fine wine retreat, you know, they're, they are young, spry old men. There we go. Samuel's thicker than ever. but he's still flying around the field. Looking good. 4th&Tea: Do you so James, do you think that Liam could beat him in a race? Liam: I think Liam thinks he could beat him in a race. That's what I'll put my money on, but I know. 100 % win 4th&Tea: No chance. Liam: rate against Demo Samuel. That's it. Anyway, he's looking quicker than ever, but if I went there, I'd also be revert to him back in time and be quicker than him as well. So yeah, I think not much to say on the Broncos side. think without that home field advantage, can they beat big teams? That's my only question mark on them. We'll see as the season goes on. Jamie, anything on this match before we move on? 4th&Tea: I've been giving Brock Purdy a lot of hate this season so far and pro previous season as well, but he he he just finds a way to Mr. Irrelevant finds a way to win these games. So I'll give him that. I don't actually hate him by the way, just for that put it out there. didn't I? Yeah, no one Liam: I saw you cut a bit of heat in the comment section. You did? 4th&Tea: I don't no no one understands sarcasm, but I mean you know Liam: Is it sarcasm, Jamie? That's the problem. So never. Yeah. That's 4th&Tea: No, no it's not. No, it's a deep line hatred. but no fair fair play to him. Yeah. Liam: also a good way of avoiding hate in the future is saying that no one understands sarcasm. I'm sure you won't get any, any jabs back now this week as well. Get a bit of round two in the comments, please, this week. Yes, that is exactly it. 4th&Tea: Hopefully. Liam: Cool. Onto the next one. And it's the Chargers. The Seattle Seahawks. So, the Chargers awful run of games continues. They've got to have the, it feels like definitely for the first half of the season, they've got the hardest run of matches in the league. They're up against the Seattle Seahawks and the dark side themselves turned up. We need some Star Wars music for these boys because they are oppressive. They, think there was three turnovers in the first quarter. The Seahawks are finding some semblance of a running game with Wilson in after, you know, they've been struggling in the running game. They've got loads of injuries. Price on IR. Yeah, Price on IR. Helani's not stepped up. Obviously, Charbonneau is not back from his injury, but Emmanuel Wilson, he's clicking. He's got them going. And when Charbonneau comes back, Maybe. And then obviously price comes back. That's like three legit options. Like also just saw in the news today, Joe Mixon is meeting with the Seattle Seahawks, whatever that's about. So interested. They found a running game, JSN. Awesome. think the fit, the only thing at the minute that's standing in the way of the Seahawks with some Donald back turnovers, because yes, The Seahawks kept turning over the Chargers, which they can't do and afford, but the Seahawks won't get away with that against better teams. So Seahawks rolling on forward. One, just a couple of comments about the Chargers. They're slowly stepping into the season. It's not how you can succeed in the NFL though. You have to be winning from the bat, but Justin Herbert's getting some good throws in. They scored 23 points. So I mean, It's just, I don't know, it's just not gonna be quite good enough. And in that division, the Chargers, they're not offering much this season, unfortunately. So yeah, anybody for any more? 4th&Tea: I was just looking at their schedule, right? Sixth of December, Liam: Yeah. 4th&Tea: Buck Bucks charges. Wow. That that's the that's the difference between Liam: Toilet bow. 4th&Tea: number one number one, number two pick, isn't it? Liam: Also, mean, do either of those guys go for a quarterback as well? I think the Bucks would have to. I don't want them to. Well, I heard a random rumor about with the charges that they might, this is complete. think we love a room. is yeah, mate. We're fourth in the whole 4th&Tea: Yeah, go on. Liam: Harbaugh connection with the brothers at charges and giants that because the, is it John Harbaugh? Who's a charges? it Is it Jim? Yeah. So Jim Harbor and he coached JJ McCarthy at college. So they reckon that potentially the giants have got JJ McCarthy. They're going to, you know, we traded a fifth round pick for him. train him up, if he gets back to form, actually trade him at the end of the season to the charges who will trade away Justin Herbert for a haul. Because I feel like everyone talks about Justin Herbert, but has he actually ever been good apart from in highlight packages? But across the course of the season, was he never want to play off game or something? So actually, but he's still got the hype about him. You could trade him away for a haul, get JJ McCarthy in, hardball coach, and then the Giants can flip a fifth into a second or something. So you heard it here. Well, you might not have heard it here first. If you also read this in the place I did, I didn't come up with this, but I thought that was an interesting, interesting thing to keep an eye on. Jamie, you're to turn this into a Panthers take like James has turned this into a Giants take somehow. was a Chargers take. 4th&Tea: No. Do you know what it's obviously Yeah, as a charges take sort of you know it's obviously the science. I think that was that that jokes me look at Yeah, Liam: science. yeah, I'm big into my NFL science. 4th&Tea: no, it's an interesting one. I mean you are right though, Justin Herbert's just there's something wrong with him, and I mean what what what's he got though? Gadsden and he's got what Quincy, god, Quinson Johnston. God I I do know what I love I love him just Liam: Point on. No hands Johnson. 4th&Tea: It it it's like he just doesn't remember he's got hands. It like there was one play where he like he could have caught the ball and he just didn't put his hands out and you think, What what's going on? What is he dubs and stubs. yeah. And then Lad McConkey Liam: Call him Stubbs, nickname Stubbs. That's it. Stubbs and Stubbs. 4th&Tea: obviously got injured during the game and just charged just look doomed, don't they? Liam: Yeah, I think we're not going to do much updates. don't think on a serious way until the toilet bowl. So yeah, against the Buccaneers in December. So on to the next one. James, it's the Chiefs at the Raiders. Chiefs at the Raiders. I think this was a higher scoring game and a closer game than most people are expecting. The Raiders, they did lose. They lost 27 to 30 to the Chiefs. Chief going 4-0, but the Raiders, this is their first loss of the season. and it's three points back from the Chiefs who scored 30. I think, you know, the Chiefs, they got it done. And, you know, my homes are still looking good. Absolute cheat code in fantasy and real life with Kenneth Walker. I was looking at his stat line, 22 rushes for 177 yards and two touchdowns. He wasn't used often in the receiving game, but can be, but everything is going through him. So I think, you know, the chiefs get it done again, but really the Raiders and, I believe we have a fan of their current quarterback on this podcast, in Kerco chains. That's exactly it. Who 4th&Tea: Kirco Chains. Liam: is just, I feel like he's just really impressive. The Raiders in general, and, yeah, the Raiders are really impressive. I'd say. If anything, I'd say, you know, they've got Ashton Jensey that everyone was absolutely raving about. I'd say he hasn't been that good. I'd say he's probably their star man, but actually, they've just been spreading it out. You know, Coco James throwing it to many different receivers, having Bowers back, I think is a game changer. He's not even a tight end. He's a receiver. He is unbelievable. And then who was there other Titan that they've just paid as well to my is my Yeah, my is to do the 4th&Tea: My yeah, yeah. Liam: So him to do the blocking work, but I think he had about 80 or 90 yards as well. yeah, the Raiders, it was a tight loss, but I think things are really looking up for them. And then, yeah, as I say, on the chief side, they're looking good. Awful injury in this game, though, with Tyquan Thornton. I don't know if anyone's seen the video. It was, you know, 40, 50 yard catch down in the corner. He caught the ball. Adrenaline is a mad thing. He stands up, takes about three steps pointing up, saying first down and realizes that he stands on his ankle and it just goes like the wrong way. And he has to like sit down on the ground. Horrible injury. I mean, to your point, his offensive lineman ran up to him like, yeah, you got the first down. I'm going to help you stand up. And he literally, because he stood up and like stood on his mashed up ankle, he's, he's had to be like, no, look at the state of me. And horror show. awful for him and he was having a big game as well. 111 yards and two touchdowns for Thornton. So, and then that really brings in the Tyreek Hill rumours are flying ever since his tweet a few days ago. And I think if I'm, if I'm the chiefs, I am, you know, I think Hills is his agent said today, speaking with a few different teams. If I'm the chiefs, I am getting to the front of the queue because they're down on receiving options and you know, surely you'd like to come back there. You might be able to give it a cheaper veteran deal. So. Watch this space, I reckon, Tywick Hill. Watch this space for Tywick Hill. Any quick notes, Jamie? 4th&Tea: I don't know if you saw at half time, Raider's head coach Clint Kupjak said that we're gonna win. Guaranteed we're gonna win. And then obviously they went on to lose. So shout out to him. He then had to face a load of questions afterwards if he regretted it and he didn't, but Liam: I, you know what? like that. I like that from, I like the confidence from the Raiders. I like them being a bit, you know, I want to rough and tumble Raiders who can just go and take it to somebody. So yeah, I like it. I like what I'm seeing. So I think, yeah. And Mendoza on the bench. I keep forgetting that. The first round who's 4th&Tea: Yeah. Liam: meant to be great is on the bench. So when they're ready to roll him out as well, you know, hopefully they do that. you know, in an ideal state to them, they're not waiting for a loss, but they can get him ready, reel him out, wheel him out against maybe a weaker team or give him some, give him some reps, reps, like I think future looking pretty right. And they're going to be able to get a bit of a haul when Minnesota admit that they need Kirk back because look at how well he's playing. And if he gets with like, you know, JJ again, I think it's just going to be awesome. think someone like Kirk. can be a franchise quarterback. He just might not be a top five. And I think sometimes teams worry about that too much. yeah. And I think Mendoza is going to take over in a great place. And okay. So onto the next one. And the last one of the week, Jamie, you've been waiting a long time for this. The Lions at Jamie's Panthers. 4th&Tea: Well, what a performance. MVP, Bryce Young. no one's got more passing yards than that boy, BY9. three hundred and twenty-nine on the Lions. Lions secondary's horrific. I will say. Panthers now got twenty two injuries in there as well. It it was yeah, it was basically an offensive slog fest. It was basically who could score the most points. And we don't normally win these ones, but the Panthers done it. l just thirty six thirty-two twenty-six. Bryce Young obviously over three hundred yards. Tech McMillan had a career day as well. He's only been league second season. But 192 Liam: yeah. Big tat. 4th&Tea: yards. love what a what a he was free every single play. It they just couldn't couldn't stop him. 192 yards, two touchdown pass receptions, and then Chuba, choo choo, 122 yards, two touchdown rushes as well. And now we've got a bye week next week. It was it was glorious. But Jared Goff, mate, they he had the chances to win the game, four hundred plus passing yards. I mean, our secondary is horrific. And he didn't use Armand some he didn't use Gh, I forgot his name. Yeah, Armand Ross St. Brown. He didn't use him. Liam: Jameson Williams. 4th&Tea: Yeah. Jameson Williams, hundred plus like what is he doing? Liam: Yeah, why can the Lions not have a game where they use two receivers? It makes no sense. And I know you want to rely 4th&Tea: Yeah. He he just f yeah. He just focused on one. Liam: on, I know you want to rely on Julia Gibbs, but you've got everything in place for an amazing passing attack as well. Other teams can do it. Something's not clicking about this Lions team and I don't know what it is. 4th&Tea: No. And he was using Tesla quite a lot as well. I mean it the fact he was getting wide open was was is worrying for the Panthers. But a wins a win, two and two, Lions two and two. It's not bad. Top the NFC South. Liam: I think you, Panthers fan would take that at the beginning of season. 4th&Tea: I would have taken four and but I'll take two and two, yeah. Liam: You say you've got the buy next week. I feel like you almost don't want to buy after a win like that. You want to roll that momentum forward. Or do you think that having 4th&Tea: Y Liam: a break and a rest is better? 4th&Tea: Yeah, w because we've got so many injuries, it's sort of it was sort of just get through this Liam: true. 4th&Tea: game, hopefully get to the by, get a few players back and then build. But like you say, like Sunday night football first in I can't remember the last one we had, like maybe even eight years plus. it is nice momentum, but yeah, now we've just got to sit and wait and watch the Bucks lose next week. Liam: Watch the books on Thursday Night Football. yeah. 4th&Tea: Yeah exactly, yeah. Liam: So that was the wrap up of the week four games. That's in the bag boys. We're going to go into our last couple of sections. So to start off with, we're going to go into our fantasy pickups of the week. We're going to do a little snake. So Jamie, we'll start with you. Who is your fantasy pickup of the week? Your first one, 4th&Tea: I I stole this off you Liam: your first one. There we go. 4th&Tea: yeah, yeah. No, I stole it off you guys earlier anyway. Tyreek Hill, we've already mentioned him. James made a good point. Chiefs def should be in line for that. And imagine my home my home is finding Tyreek Hill again. This could could be Liam: Destiny. 4th&Tea: a great could be a great pick up that one. Liam: James. So this is probably for deeper leagues. And after spending a good few minutes saying how bad the Eagles were, I'm actually going to pick an Eagles player in Darius Cooper, the wide receiver. I think it was two games ago. He had, I think it was a touchdown or two. But I think all in all on that Eagles offense, he got Smith out for a few weeks. Even Barkley, you get some of the receiving game is out. So Hertz needs someone to throw to Godden off not being in. And Cooper this week, you know, popped up with two touchdowns. So I think in a, you know, deeper league where people are a bit desperate for a spot play with high upside potentially, I think you could go, you could do worse than look at Darius Cooper. And I think the key for this week is actually that he got 90 % of the snaps he was on the field. That was more, I think, interestingly than than Mackay Lemon, who was their first round pick who has not looked good. So actually, everyone's thinking, I even picked up Lemon to stream him this week, but Cooper was the play. And I think that might be the case for the next few weeks in particular. Nice. So my fantasy pick of the week is going to be Emmanuel Wilson, the Seahawks running back or at least filling running back for now. He's only been owned by 62 % of leagues and teams, and he's only been started in 25 % of. Ownerships. So lead running back for the Superbowl champions. You get a piece of that pie and the running game is running downhill. So it's looking really good at the minute. So that's my first pick up of the week. My second pick up of the week is going to be Roman Wilson of the Steelers. Not the sexiest, not the sexiest pickup. He is very good looking. But I think in terms of the numbers, he is wide receiver. He's a top third, he's a wide receiver, 26 on Salipa and he in half PPR. He's only been picked up in 8 % of leagues and only been started by 2%. Over the last two weeks, he's getting close to 15 points a game and Aaron Rodgers likes his targets when he starts picking up on them. for the moment, I can't see that dropping too much. Pittman and DK have been playing a lot of the time as well. So I think Roman Wilson, if you're struggling for a wide receiver and did the double running back strategy, might be a nice pick up for you. Back to you, James. So. My guy, which I think was meant might've been mentioned last week, although I actually got him, he didn't go through waivers in a few of our leagues. So I got him straight as a pickup. This calls either going to look genius or awful because he plays tonight. So by the time I think this goes out, you'll either, you know, you'll be able to judge me on this, it's Kendre Miller, the backup running back for the saints with ETN. know it's HN. We say HN, Etienne, we get it all wrong. Yeah. So, but with him now actually landing on IR. That opens up an opportunity for at least four games with the first being tonight. You've got Kamara ahead of him, but how old's Kamara now? He's got to be. He can't be the workhorse. Kendre Miller was also a third round pick a few years ago. He's been dealing with injuries. But when he came out and I was looking online with the forums, whenever he's played, the Saints fans say he looks good. Yeah, he looks good. got energy. Yeah. So I think Kendre Miller, if he's still out there, I think is a decent pick up. Unless he does awfully tonight or gets injured, in which case, forget everything I just said. Jamie, Last Fantasy Pickup of the Week. 4th&Tea: It's gonna be rogue. All right, you ready for this? Okay, cow Liam: We like a rogue one. 4th&Tea: Cowboys defense. Right, they got the Bucks come Liam: Woo. 4th&Tea: in to Dallas. Well, I mean, look at the what how the Bucks are doing right now. You guaranteed what? Ten fifteen points, you're gonna get an inception, probably gonna be a Liam: Sorry. 4th&Tea: gonna be a fumble on Game Well. Easy. Cowboys defense. Liam: Not bad against an undrafted, know, free agent quarterback. Fair play. Okay. On to the last segment of the day. We're going to go into winners and losers. James, who is your loser of the week? My loser is actually the Chargers. Now, not only because they are zero and four, not only because their schedule is tough. The next few games, Broncos, Chiefs. Rams Texans who might be a good team might have turned it around by then and then Ravens could they go zero and nine and it's still not only just because of those two factors but the news came in coming today is Rashaun Slater their very good offensive tackle has done a high ankle so that's you know four to six weeks so they haven't been giving most protection for their quarterback and they've just lost their offensive tackle with that schedule to come so can't imagine there's a lot of optimism over with the Chargers at the moment. And their other offensive line star, Joe Alt, is actually the most penalized player in the league this year as well. mean, it's that, but that's why they're your loser of the week. That's why, yeah, it's tough times for the Chargers. Woof. So my loser of week is the Denver Broncos. You might be thinking two and two, it's okay, whatever. But the Denver Broncos to me, They're showing that they need that home field advantage to get a win and Bonyx plays weird games. What do we, we had a term for it, Bonyxified or something. It's a new term. I've made it up, but the Broncos don't look like they've got enough juice without the home field advantage and teams playing away. And I think, like, I don't think you've got confidence in the Broncos after this week playing against good teams. So yeah, they're my losers of the week. Jamie, who are your losers? 4th&Tea: Buffalo Bills at home against New Liam: Oof. 4th&Tea: England. Do you know what they I think we said it earlier that they've looked Joe Allen Joe Allen Josh Allen's not looked himself right against Chargers. He does look like Joe Allen, yeah, exactly. Liam: He looks, Josh Allen looks like Joe Allen. 4th&Tea: Like he's he's turning the ball over. I was looking at his stats as well. He's only got six touchdown passes on the year as well. So I'm Yeah, but yeah. Man Man man thinks he's Cam Nota, doesn't he? Liam: Six rushing though. His production's come on the ground himself. Yeah. 4th&Tea: Fine. Gotta get a Pamus reference in. but no, I yeah, I think Bill's back to back games is looking rough. Liam: Yeah, okay. Jamie, who is your winner of the week? 4th&Tea: I'm so glad you asked. I'm I'm going Carolina Panthers. All the injuries. Liam: Hey. 4th&Tea: What a shock. I'm sure we're gonna have Giants in a second as well. But all the injuries, right? You've got you've got the Bucks looking awful. You've got obviously Falcons playing against Saints Monday night football. So yeah, we're guaranteed to be top the NFC South. after that. Going Liam: Guaranteed. 4th&Tea: to buy guaranteed. Locked, some would say. And you know, although Bryce Young's looking good in the pocket. He's throwing the ball within zero point five seconds on average. Like he is looking on fire. And yeah, with that's with, you know, five of your O line out, that's with two of your top three wide receivers out, that's with both your cornerbacks out, that's with you know, now Phillips, Jalen Phillips out as well. You know, Pamphers find found a way to win, and that's that's Liam: Well, 4th&Tea: a sign of a good team. Liam: yeah. So my winner of the week is Drake May, Romeo Doves and the New England Patriots. We've bagged them a lot on this part. Dubs. We've bagged them a lot on this part. We've said Drake May is the biggest fancy disappointment so far this year. They turned it around today. If you had the bottle to keep with Drake May, you've probably won your matchup this week. The Patriots needed a win against the good team. and against Jamie's loser of the week, the Buffalo Bills. And I think you've just brought belief in the season back to New England. So yeah. Very good. James, yes, sorry. I'll tear you up. Yep. Thank you. Your winner of the week. Who could it be? And actually, Jamie, you thought it would be the Giants. You couldn't be more wrong. My winner of the week is actually Giants player Deontay Banks. who is, I had to, it was actually going to be the Giants, but I can't, I can't be that obvious, but Giants obviously doing well, but I'm going to call out Deontay Banks. I actually already mentioned this before, but he's the cornerback, first round pick at 24th a few years ago, fans calling to just cut him. We couldn't even trade him. And he's just been dreadful, but from the preseason and even just training camp onwards, he's been great. If anyone can even be bothered. But if you wanted to go look at his highlights yesterday, he was insanely good. He was literally diving all over the shop. There were some, there were some definite catches, probably two or three, that he was just like plucking out of the air, plucking out the hands. And he was also the guy who jumped and got the walk off interception, right at the end of the game. So his stock relative to where it was could not be higher. and I'm sure he's feeling a lot better at the moment. So my winner is the onto banks. Bosch, big blue. Cool. So that's it. Another week in the bag. Week four done. It's been another good one. Thank you, Jamie. Thank you, James. Any last comments on the week, Jamie? 4th&Tea: I'm just glad we did a whole show with no technical difficulties. So that was that's really really impressive from us. Liam: So you've just basically stolen my jokes. I was going to say, should have said my loser of the week was Liam's microphone. It could also have probably been in there. Yeah. Well, I think what we had, we had alien invasion. had a police car raid hit. had a police car interject from one of the pods. We've had, we've had all sorts, but this this week we've had the dog and we've had, and we've had the microphone that refuses to be a microphone. So Jamie, enjoy that edit fella. So yeah, cool. Let's go big blue. That's how I'm going to end the part. Maybe we can sneak a bit of Panthers blue in there, but I think blue for the win this week. Thank you for listening. Like and subscribe. We're on all of the major platforms, Spotify, Apple music, YouTube, TikTok, Instagram, Forth and T. Thank you for listening. Peace and love. Toodle-oo's.