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Ink & Memory: Sisters on Tattoos, Loss, and Reinvention · Let’s Talk, Sister!

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Welcome to Let's Talk Sister, about life, the whole damn thing.
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We're Shel and Krissy. We're sisters, and this is where we talk about life
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Let's talk sister about life, the whole damn thing.
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Welcome back to Let's Talk Sister about life, the whole damn thing.
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I'm Shel. And I'm Krissy.
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And today we're talking about something that both of us have some experience
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with, tattoos. I have way more experience than you. I'm just saying.
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And it's not just what tattoos we have. We want to talk about why we got them,
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what they meant when we got them, whether they still mean the same thing now,
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that's interesting, and the stories that are permanently written on our bodies.
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Because every tattoo does have a story. Even if that story is I was young and
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thought this was a really good idea.
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I was young when I got my first one, but it was definitely an act of rebellion.
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And I was definitely old and it was intentional. Yeah, exactly.
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So today we're talking tattoos, meanings, memories, questionable decisions,
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pain, aging, and whether we're getting done getting tattooed. Hell no!
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Which I have a feeling may be a dangerous question.
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Let's talk, sister. All right, sis. How old were you, Michelle,
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when you got your first tattoo?
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I was 55.
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Got it.
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You always make that noise when I talk about my age. I'm not really that old. Stop it.
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I was like, really? I'm just teasing. When you turn 55, I'm going to be like.
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I hope and pray I age as gracefully as you have. Honestly.
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Because like mom and dad have aged gracefully. You've aged gracefully.
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I feel like a withered old hag right now. But anyways.
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Okay. First tattoo. You were 55. What was it? 55. I got two of them in one session,
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because I thought I may not ever do this again.
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So the very first one was my dad's name. Our maiden name. Our maiden name.
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And the reason I wanted it is because, as you guys know, dad has cancer.
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And the Boris name has no boys to carry on the name other than our brother.
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And so the name kind of stops with our generation and i wanted to always have
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dad with me and we have it in dad's handwriting yeah dad's so
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he because i gave him this piece of cardboard and i was like dad can you can
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you write your last name on here and he's like well what's this for,
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and i'm like just just do it and then i told him and then he started to cry,
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yeah of course which anytime you're in cancer treatment prostate cancer treatment.
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The medicine makes you emotional. Because what it does is it takes away your
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testosterone and then it gives you like the hormones and the feelings and that,
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you know, all of the emotions.
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And because you don't have the manly testosterone to stop it.
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Which I think he always would have been emotional to that reaction regardless of this.
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But this one made him very emotional. And it's the way I like it.
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It's on my right forearm.
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And I see it every day. when I shower. And my second tattoo,
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same day, was with my daughter.
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And we have to the moon and back on our left shoulders, because I always tell
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her I love you to the moon and back.
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And I thought, if I never do this again, I want these to be with me forever.
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And I love them so much, I forget that I have the one on my back, because I don't see it.
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Unless someone takes a picture of me,
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intently with the tattoo like if i'm dressed up or something but yeah i even
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forget i have it yeah how about you how old were you i was 18 when i got my
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first one like it was legal and mom and dad went on vacation.
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Mom already knows the story i don't know what that says but i was like infatuated
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with like geckos when when i was in high school it's stupid it's dumb as shit so So here's the thing.
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I have it, but it's covered up because it started off as a gecko.
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And then through pregnancies, it turned into an alligator.
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And I got it on my right shoulder blade. And I did not carry children and lose
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baby weight very well. So it just kind of like was an alligator.
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And it was ugly as fuck.
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So I covered it with the phoenix. Okay.
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And the phoenix covers like half of my back. and
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and the gecko only covered my shoulder blade so it's like i forget that i have
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this big ass phoenix on my back oh my gosh that's but it's like and it's all
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my favorite like colors like purple pink blue like and it's really pretty i
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need to have it touched up but,
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you should have seen it at your wedding i know but i was busy that day can you
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take off your shirt please hell no absolutely not you gotta pay for that.
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I don't and I don't even know how many tattoos I have but all of my tattoos
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have meaning the the purpose of the phoenix was because,
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I you know went through a pretty you know rigorous time in my life where I got
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divorced and I just really felt like a phoenix rising from the ash so I always
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wanted a phoenix tattoo I didn't necessarily want it that big right I was thinking more of like a,
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I don't know, a fine line tattoo somewhere.
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And it's definitely not that. I don't know what happened.
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Who did it? Can we give them a shout out?
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Oh savannah yeah i don't i don't know what tattoo shop she's at right now no
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savannah wherever you are in the world yeah thank you muchas gracias and i went
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to we went to rachel leclerc,
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and yeah but now she has her own tattoo studio got it virum it's virum art studio
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in loveland okay perfect so,
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that's who did our dad's name and hi to the moon and back and i'm glad you know
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where she's at yeah Yeah, and Rachel, she's done a lot of my tattoos now.
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I got a bunch of tattoos when I was, well, no, I didn't, like,
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in my 30s. Like, I really didn't start getting the tattoos until I was in my 30s and well into my 40s.
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And now I think I have, like, 15. Approaching the 50s. Yeah,
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yeah. It's fine. It's fine.
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It's so fine for you. And then you're like, oh, you're so old.
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I'm like, dude, I need sleep because then I won't feel so old.
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So, mom and dad, when did they find out about your tattoo? Oh,
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God. Read this story. Pretty quick when they got back from vacation. That was fun.
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Tell us about it. So dad's like, mom's more forgiving than dad.
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Dad was pretty pissed that I got a tattoo and marked my body because I was going to be living in sin.
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You rebellious sinner. Yeah. Yeah.
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But and then he found out a few years later that I actually took his Corvette
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for a joyride on I-25. That was fun.
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Yeah, that Corvette was fun.
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It was fun. It was fun. Top down. It goes fast. It did.
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He had a moment where he needed his sports car, and he got it.
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He made a crisis. Red Corvette. Yeah. Yeah.
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Pretty fun car. Do you remember how much your first tattoo costs? Oh, my gosh.
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I don't remember. Yeah. So, and, okay, so we've covered most of that.
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That was 30 years ago. Holy shit.
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Your gecko turned alligator turns phoenix.
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What if the phoenix changes? What will you do next? It'll probably just be a big black blob.
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Yeah. Okay, so let's talk about why it took me $50. five years to get my first
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tattoo because I think they're cool.
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But I had, I wouldn't say I like, I liked him on other people,
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but I just couldn't see me marking my body for any reason.
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And, you know, I grew up in church and they're like, and I was married to someone
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that's like, ah, no to tattoos, you know?
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And so I, I don't know if I really bought into that because I was just like,
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I just don't know what I want on my body permanently, but my maiden name,
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I definitely want on my body permanently.
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And my daughter, if she said, if any of my children said, hey,
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let's get a meaningful tattoo that's about us and our relationship,
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I would do it for any of my children.
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100%. But she's the only one that's asked. So it's the only one that I've done.
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But, you know, I would say after I got it, I didn't know I'd love it so much.
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And I love it, love it, love it, love it.
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And so I've asked Kevin if he would get a tattoo with me
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and he's like i just don't same same viewpoint so it must be an older person
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viewpoint because he's like i just don't know what i'd want on my body you know
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and i'm like yeah yeah so well because it's it's gonna go with you,
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but here's one of the things that i read this actually on tiktok like if you,
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don't want to get kidnapped yeah,
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have a lot of tattoos because you're really easy to identify if you don't want
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ai to like copy you have a lot of tattoos because they can't replicate it.
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So i'm safe oh and eat the cake if you don't want to get um so i was watching
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we're we're we're digressing to just i'm just going with this we'll go to these
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a question that i've written down here in a little bit but i was watching agt
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america's got talent and the,
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i don't know his name i should know his name he's the rapper that he was in the top top people,
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and he got cut he wasn't in the finals he got cut right before the finals but
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he had neck tattoos it's like a big radio right on his neck and i'm like,
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and it's bright colors it's green and yellow and red you gotta be like really
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brave because like i would be afraid that like,
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they get my like artery or something i know but it looks so cool and then i
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was also watching the voice.
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And who's the guy, the coach? What's his name? He's got Adam Levine.
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He's got tattoos on his neck as well.
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He has them everywhere. He has like a little heart. Oh, a little heart right
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here behind his ear or above his ear. I don't know. It's super cute though. Yeah. So I'm like,
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I now dig them. Like now I notice them and see them. And do you talk to people
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when you see them have tattoos? Do you like to be like, oh, I love your tattoo.
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Let me see it. Take off your shirt. Let me see it. Yeah, absolutely.
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Well, I don't say take off your shirt. Of course not. But yeah,
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like if I see a piece of artwork on a body, like I always and if I love it,
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I'm like, oh, my God, I love your tattoo.
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You know, me too. It's a good conversation piece. absolutely and it's so common
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now and like my husband he was so against tattoos and now he has three,
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and he doesn't have three like little ones like like a heart he has like big
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ass ones tell us what they are so
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he has we went to hawaii last year and he got like a tribal looking turtle on
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his shoulder and then he got he got a big foot because he's terrified of sasquatch
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he's absolutely fucking terrified of sasquatch so,
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it's kind of been a little joke for me to like put little Sasquatches around
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the house you know and he just decided to embrace it and he got a big tattoo
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of a Sasquatch on his like the back of his cap of his left calf and I was like dude you're brave,
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you know and then like he got this big one on his right forearm
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that is like it has all of our kids as initials and it has my initials down
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here like right on the the inner part of his wrist and he's like that part hurt
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the most your initials I'm like you're fucking right it did I didn't remember that.
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Stay in on your friend. You pissed me off, bro. You know?
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And, yeah, but, like, he just has really fallen in love with the tattoos.
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But all of our kids, except for our second oldest son, our three others have tattoos. Okay. So...
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So Logue doesn't have. Logue does not have any tattoos. He's talked about it.
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Yeah, he's had Kehlani design one for him. And it's really cool.
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But he just hasn't pulled the trigger yet.
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But I do, like, I see him, like, just full sleeve. Like, once he starts it,
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I just see him, like, full sleeve. Exactly.
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So, yeah. And I've been thinking about what would I want with Kevin,
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you know. And I'm like, I do love the tribal look, the Hawaiian thing, you know, that feel.
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But yeah it has to be something he loves too yeah so we'd have to design it
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together yeah so yeah london and i like his his big mountain one like i have a,
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kind of sort of matching one on my shoulder this one on my right shoulder because
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that was the only spot i had space.
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To kind of sort of get the matching one with him.
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But really, that's that's about it. Like, I will never, ever,
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ever, ever put his name on my body. No. Because that's bad luck.
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OK. Like, I have his initials, but and like his handwriting on one of my tattoos.
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But I will never put his name on my on my body. OK. Yeah.
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I'm not sure I want like symbols or words that are meaningful.
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I'm not sure I'd put someone's name.
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Yeah. So this is kind of a funny story and it's kind of not.
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OK, tell me this great story. But my ex-husband had my name tattooed,
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like, right here on his chest.
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And when he went with his other lady, you know, the only thing I thought was,
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yeah, see my name, bitch.
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You know, like, when we first got separated and divorced, like,
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that was the only thing that I thought of. Yeah. You know, but at the time,
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I think that was, I don't know, that for whatever reason he wanted to do that.
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And I'm like, it is what it is, sucker.
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That's okay. It worked out for the best. Yeah. Look at you now. Yeah.
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Okay. Question for you. If you could only keep three tattoos, which would you keep?
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I would definitely keep dad's handwriting maiden name.
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Me too. I would also keep, I have this one on my right forearm that's like a tree.
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And then it has birds flying away and the birds, there's a bird for each member of my immediate family.
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And then underneath the tree it
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says love in landon's handwriting i'd keep that one and then i would keep.
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I would keep oh i all of them i would keep all of them,
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but i said three i don't want to choose she doesn't want to follow and then
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i have a fine line tattoo of ariel oh i would keep that one let me see oh that's
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cute yeah but i would keep all of them okay Okay. So all is her answer.
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And if you, which one is most meaningful?
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At this point right now, dad's. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Well, I only have two,
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so. Yeah, we've got to work on that. I know. Okay.
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And I noticed that I say so a lot.
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I am working on that. When you guys listen, celebrate when I don't say it. So, yay!
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In the Tony Robbins Coaching Academy, as a coach, using filler words was one of my biggest feedback.
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And I became exceptional at it. It's when I'm nervous that I use the filler
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words. Why are you nervous? We're sitting in the chateau.
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It's just you and me.
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Nobody's going to hear this unless you allow them to hear it.
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That is true because I am the producer. Yep, you are the boss. That's true.
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Yep. I just show up.
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That's all I do. I was going to say a filler word there, but I'm just going to be quiet.
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Yeah, I'll fill it with some bullshit. That's what I'm good at.
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Okay, tattoos can represent many things, and we'll just tell you some of our
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thoughts on those so they can connect you to happy periods like,
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dad is no evidence of cancer, and we're celebrating, he's with us,
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the line lives on with us.
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And so we're grateful and blessed that dad is healthy and well.
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Tattoos can connect you to like difficult periods too.
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A lot of mine have, you know, like the gecko that turned into an alligator that
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is now a phoenix. Like that for me, like getting the phoenix really did close that chapter for me.
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And it did help me grow. I feel like. Yeah. I don't know.
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There's just like some significance between like the completion of that.
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And then, you know, well, we talked about honoring people, right?
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Like I have this one for Tosh or Danelle, not Tosh, but I would definitely get
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one for Tosh. We've talked about doing, we'll go back to this list in a minute.
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I've talked about doing like 1111 on your fingers.
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But I learned that like finger tattoos come off.
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Well, they don't, they do, they tend to fade extremely fast,
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but they also tend to blow out too because they're little veins.
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Yeah. Well, and it's just so it's a sensitive, you know, so maybe,
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maybe, and Tasha did have a big heart.
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I have a picture of her tattoo behind her ear.
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I don't even remember that. It's, I think it said love and it was a big heart.
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Her and Taylor have matching tattoos. Oh, Taylor was her best friend. Yeah.
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And tattoos represent change for me this was a,
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time of like letting go the old beliefs and embracing the new beliefs like my
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old self didn't jive with the tattoos my new self love it i'm like bring it on i love it,
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so much it's it's very freeing yeah and they you know they remind you of things
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that you survive you know i think just because we're evolving every single day
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right so just to have that little bit like that marker that memento of,
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the the survival piece that you've gone through because we all have to survive
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something and if people aren't cool with tattoos which we,
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we love you it doesn't matter if you're into tattoos or not but what you might
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do is doodle or draw and like if i were going through a challenging time i might
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there's a drawing that we do we can talk about this real quick and then we'll we'll go back,
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there it's called art of manifesting and if you have resistance in your life
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you draw you know jagged shape and then we did it the other day last week yeah where we
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turned it into through it's called
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of art of manifesting coaching which is one of my skills that i do and
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we turned it into something beautiful,
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it's still there it's just something now beautiful so that's kind of what a
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tattoo can represent like you're
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like you're gecko to alligator to phoenix right it's It's kind of like.
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Transmuting resistance.
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Yeah, but like when we were doing that drawing last week, like I had a little
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bit of rage. I'm going through menopause too, so I have maybe a lot of rage.
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A little bit of rage. And then just through the progression of the drawing,
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I was able to cover up that rage piece. And then it actually,
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I felt an energy shift in my heart with that.
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And ever since then, I'm just like, okay, this drawing is like,
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it helps so much. For sure.
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And the thing is, the rage or the anger or the upset is still present.
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It doesn't go away, but you're able to function in life. Well,
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because like what you want to do is like if you have the rage or you have the
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anger, you don't want to hold on to it. You want to release it because if you
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if you don't release it, it doesn't serve your greatest and highest good.
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Now you take with it the lesson that you
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learned, you know, like I learned communication like that was the thing.
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You know, I needed to have better communication. I made it my goal.
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And that's why I was able to draw over that rage piece with communication.
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And I lived that throughout the week, that following week. And you had some
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magical things happened since then, like around that area of life.
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Like massive things have happened.
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So I have a belief that if you have anger, rage, hurt, and you don't process
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it, get therapy, get help, drug, get coaching, talk to your pastor, whatever.
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If you don't deal with it, It will come back in your body later in life. I am 100% sure. Yeah.
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Don't drink it away. That doesn't work. I've tried that. It doesn't work.
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Coping mechanisms are great, but actually processing the real emotion of what's
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going on, being allowed to feel how you feel, that is where the real work is
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done. Yep. Absolutely. Yeah.
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Ooh. Okay. So back to tattoos. Do you, you don't, you already said you don't
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have regrets, but like, do you have any regrets?
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I wish I would have done it sooner. Yeah. No, I love that.
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I love that. Yeah. Because I did not know how much I would love it.
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Now I'm like, ah, I love it. If Kevin were like today said, let's get one.
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I mean, I would be like, okay, we're booking an appointment tomorrow.
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That's how quickly I would book it. Well, because like with Rachel,
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she's got a long wait list. Yeah.
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So I don't have any regrets of any of mine because they all tell a story.
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They're all a piece of me. And, you know, I wouldn't take any of them back.
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If you were, and this is just a morbid thought, it's where my brain went.
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If you had a cool dead body and you were laying on a morgue table and they were
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to look at your body, what would your body tell the story? What would the story say?
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I don't know, but I know what the police report says. And it just says markings on flesh.
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Markings on flesh. Yeah. Okay, that was just the wrong way to ask a question.
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And is there a tattoo you would remove or cover up or redesign?
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You know, I have my left wrist. I have a sunflower because that was mine and
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my husband's flower for our wedding. I would probably revamp that, honestly.
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Oh, shit. Sorry. Okay. Something to call.
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Yeah, I would revamp that and, like, make it bigger and more colorful because,
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like, it's yellow and it's faded quite a bit. So I'd make it more vibrant. I love it.
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And let's see. We've already talked about this.
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I kind of have some show notes here. We're just kind of seeing if we want to
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talk about it or not. Because all the feedback we've gotten so far,
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everybody wants more. They're like, talk longer, girls. Yeah,
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talk longer. Talk longer. Trust me, that's not a problem.
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Okay, let's talk about the actual experience. Who's tougher? Definitely you.
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Yeah, I don't know about that. Because, like, okay, so I got a tattoo.
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Like, my most painful tattoo was on my ankle.
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Like, right up above the ankle bone. You know? That fucker.
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And I don't, I don't, I can't have the numbing cream because I'm allergic to
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lidocaine. Okay. So I just had the balls out just, just, and I sat there.
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And Rachel was like, girl, how did you sit through that? And I was like,
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I don't know, but I got to go throw up now.
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So I hear a lot of people say, I'm going to drink before I get this tattoo.
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Don't do it. I know, but you're not supposed to. No, it thins your blood. Yeah.
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Yeah. So it's like, you might be numb, but you're going to bleed to death. Yeah. That's not fun.
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You know well gross have you ever fallen asleep while you got a tattoo oh no
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how would you fall asleep in here,
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oh we haven't talked about this i actually have three tattoos i have permanent
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eyeliner oh yeah that was your first tattoo that was my first tattoo i thought
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you were nuts when you did that,
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i love it so much 2017 so.
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Yeah so yeah i can't yeah i could not when she told me she did that 11 years,
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shut the fuck up so let me tell you about the process so you lay on this table,
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and you're looking up at the sky and this gal's working behind you and,
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she's like if you're on an esthetician table yeah exactly okay and she's like
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okay just relax i'm gonna you know bring this thing close to your eye and it's
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like but you've had lasik,
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right is it the same thing basic yeah have you yeah i've had eye surgery no
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this was that was more like burning this is like i'm drilling your eyeball and,
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so but it's like i'm gonna throw up that's so you know they have to go over
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it and go over and go over it and it's like,
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and she's like keep your eyes open relax and it's kind of like when you get
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your nails done you're they're like relax your hand and i'm like i i'm relaxing,
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like i'm salivating i want to throw up just thinking about that that's disgusting
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but i love it i don't have to i literally could don't even have to put mascara
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on did you top and bottom lid yeah oh see.
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I don't know i don't know if i could do that and some people go get them like,
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redone i'm like i'll just use a permanent marker if i need to now Sharpie in the eye.
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Yeah, no, but I would do it again. Yeah, okay.
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Because I love it. All right. Yep. If I could do eyelashes permanent and never
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have to get them like filled or anything, I'd do that too. Like dye them darker.
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I think they do that. Yeah, they do. I've had that done. And yeah,
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I don't, I don't know if it's like the whole hormone changing thing,
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but like my eyes were like, do not ever do that again. When I hide my eyelashes.
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I used to have lashes fake lashes and i loved them but i look at pictures and
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i'm like girl they don't look so real yeah you know so i'm just gonna be i'm
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beautifully me how i am right i don't wear makeup so yeah i very rarely make
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wear makeup uh we are gonna go somewhere else but
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it's like i have age spots right oh yeah i have melasma is it melasma i don't know yeah the sun spots,
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yeah yeah i pay a lot of money every month to not have those so i think they're
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brightening and I think they're doing okay, but I don't wear makeup.
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Unless it's a special occasion. I don't pay for skincare. I'm the person that
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literally didn't even know there was skincare. Like, of course,
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I knew people did skincare, but I was like, I'm not putting oil of Olay on my
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face like my grandma did. I was like, no way, man.
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But just probably just a few years ago, maybe 10, I started using skincare.
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Now I do it twice a day. Love it.
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Yeah, I do skincare twice a day too. mm-hmm so when i got my tattoos,
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i thought it'd be worse than it was the pain and it was fairly quick
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i and i well when you have a good tattoo artist i think that is a game changer
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you know because like you don't you don't know what it's like to have a shitty
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tattoo artist i do you don't so that's good let's keep it that way exactly yeah,
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what about self-tattooing people do this my daughter has.
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I highly do not recommend. Sorry, sis, I love you, but no.
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I think Tasha self-tattooed as well. I believe that. Yeah.
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And I'm like, I don't know what she had, but I'm sure I was like,
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well, what is that? Well, and there's so many places that you can self-tattoo.
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And like Kehlani's, and she loves it. It's her jam.
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It's her jam. It's fine. But for me, no.
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Yeah. Okay. And so some questions. Tattoos. Were you, these are just life in general.
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Were tattoos more rebellious when you were growing up?
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Yes, because not a lot of people had them when I was growing up.
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Now everybody has them. Are women judged differently for having tattoos? I...
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I want to say yes. I do feel like that. Like, mine, I can cover mine up if I wanted to.
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But, like, Kehlani has some, like, behind her ear. And, like,
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we've really, like, I don't have any hand tattoos. And she's talking about doing
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more hand tattoos. And I'm like, no, girl. Don't. Because she's in customer service.
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When I was a recruiter for 14 years and an HR manager, I was like,
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do not get hand or face tattoos.
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Because you can cover up and like even forearms like if in the summertime it's
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hot yeah because you cannot cover those up but i
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i think that's one of the reasons i didn't get tattoos for so long because i
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was in employment yeah and i knew you were professional and you had to put it
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out there that that you were 100,
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you know yep but and then i decided not working for someone else And for 19
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years, I've worked for myself.
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And now I can tattoo my body anywhere I flippin' want. Yeah.
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So I'm going to talk real quick about Donnell, my youngest. So she,
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her dad is highly against tattoos.
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And she was like, no, I'm getting a tattoo. So like the day she turned 18,
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I think she went and got a tattoo, much like someone else I know, Aunt Kristen.
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And he did not notice for quite a while. She tried to cover it up.
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But then one day he saw it and he was like, what is that? You know,
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and and then she didn't tell him about like two or three.
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And one day he saw those and he was like, what's that? And she's like,
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Dad, I've had that for like a year.
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Like, get over it. Yeah. But he always told the children, you know,
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you're going to hell if you have
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you're selling your soul. If you have a tattoo is the blah, blah, blah.
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Right. It's like, but that belief came from somewhere. Someone taught him that,
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that he took and he owned it, right? It's like he chose.
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That's one of those evolving things, though. Like, I think, I feel like the
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perspective on tattoos has changed a lot just in the last 10,
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15 years, you know? Yeah.
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What about when you're 80, 90 years old and you've got all these tattoos?
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Does that affect you at all?
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Nope. Nope. You're like, nope, I'm going to be a badass granny.
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Yeah, I'm going to have them all like redone and sharp and vibrant and stuff.
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That way my grandbabies can be like, Grammy, what's that one?
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Grammy, show me your tattoo. Yeah.
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Okay. It says, now the dangerous part. Are either of you playing?
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Okay, so let's talk about what would be, let's brainstorm. Kevin, this is for you, love.
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What like what would be a meaningful tattoo like Tasha.
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You know she loved blue we love 111 and 1111 so something around that I had
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an idea okay tell me like a celestial tattoo with like 1111 and then like a dark background,
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and then oh yeah can you draw that no Kehlani can though okay I suck at tell
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her tell her what you want and let's look at it yeah and then what about kevin
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and i what would you envision kevin i want your opinion too,
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i kind of like for you guys because he's he is a very simple man and i feel
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like a fine line kind of silhouette of a husband and wife kind of thing would be really,
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really cute and meaningful what about hands that are like a heart yeah do you
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guys do that a lot like do you know but he has on his dresser he's got heart
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hands on his dresser and we've got a ribbon that says our names that winds through it,
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we could do something like that like a ribbon that goes through it but it would
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have our maybe it maybe it's the heart hands and our wedding date yeah that
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would be without names right,
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yeah because i would you're the only one that would know what that means yeah
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i don't know i love that just a thought love i'm throwing it manifest it we'll draw about it next week.
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Let's see. If I got to choose your next tattoo and you weren't allowed to see
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it until it was finished, would you trust me?
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Yeah. YOLO. Yeah.
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You would? Yeah. What if I found like a big mole and then I had him do like
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a dude with a lawnmower trying to mow over it? Kristen. I'm just kidding.
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I'm totally kidding. I'd never do that. You would never draw that for me.
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No, because I can't draw.
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But I would have somebody draw it. I'm just kidding. you wouldn't though but
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if you're gonna do that I wouldn't where would I put that you don't have any like moles no I do not so,
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I don't know like what so what would you do for me like if you got to design
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a tattoo for me what would that be.
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It would definitely be something spiritual and And it would have to be about love.
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It might be somewhat like not a lotus, not a Hawaiian flower,
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but something in between.
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And it would definitely have some purple in it. Definitely. It would definitely have some purple.
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Yeah, I don't know. It might even have some like, again, not ghost,
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but something that represents spirit.
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You know, something. we'd have to play with that yeah i was like i don't know
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but something that's expansive and loving and embracing and you know like,
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maybe even like an echo type thing with voices you know like you know how a
33:39
podcast has the wavelength something like that that's cool i like that something
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where would we put it i don't have room on my arms,
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On my tuchus? Yeah, we could do it there. No. Right here when you put a swimsuit
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on, someone can see it. Like, ooh, love it.
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Love it. I do have room here on my back. Like over there. You could do something like that.
34:01
Or we could do the Let's Talk Sister podcast face.
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Yeah. Hey, that's a good idea, actually. That would be cute.
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That's a good idea. That would be really cute.
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Call her now. I do want to get some Let's Talk Sister swag. Okay,
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What kind of swag do you want?
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Do you want cups, coffee mugs, shirts, sweatshirts, tattoos?
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We could get temporary tattoos. Temporary tattoos would be so cute.
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Let's get a Let's Talk Sister temporary tattoo. Yeah, let's look into that. Bumper stickers. Yeah.
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34:58
And this is just a shout out. We've got some people. We've actually got a list
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35:51
What else? I think that's pretty much a wrap for today, don't you?
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Absolutely. So I'm envisioning, like, okay, I've got one more question. Okay.
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If you could have a seductive tattoo, where would it go and what would it be?
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I'm not a seductive person. Maybe you should.
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So, like, the first thing I thought of was I would put an exit only above my culo.
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But i'm not that's not seductive that's the exact opposite i don't i don't know,
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because i we we're just not i don't know,
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you i i can't say on this podcast where i'd put it or what it'd say bruh,
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bruh my children listen to this who gives a shit they're all grown-ass adults
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just yeah that's true you should hear our dinner conversation somewhere inner
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thigh and i don't know what it would say but it would say something,
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i got to turn at your own wrist no it's good.
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Welcome home honey welcome home baby only for kevin,
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Okay, he's probably blushing now. His teachers at his Christian school are probably
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blushing right now. Oh my goodness, so sorry.
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Well, isn't there like, aren't we like an explicit rating? We are.
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Yeah, see, so they're probably not even listening.
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Okay, so send us, where are your tattoos at?
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What do they say? What's your best experience, worst experience?
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We want to actually hear from you on the tattoo tour.
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