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Ashy Bines Slammed for Irresponsible Peptide Promo · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken.
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  Speaker 2: It's your dose of the hottest influencer and pop culture
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  Speaker 2: news twice a week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Kate Torber. I'm Amy. And I'm Sophie Torber.
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  Speaker 2: And coming up on today's show, Ashley Bynes and Sam
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  Speaker 2: Guggenheimer face backlash after confirming they're on peptides. And self-proclaimed
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  Speaker 2: number one tennis wag Morgan Riddle confirms split with her
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  Speaker 2: tennis player boyfriend. But first, Sammy Robinson has a new
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  Speaker 2: boyfriend and you might know him. Yeah, she's been dropping
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  Speaker 2: a lot of clues about her new relationship on Instagram
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  Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. So two weeks ago, she
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  Speaker 2: shared a photo of her new man kissing her cheek
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  Speaker 2: as they sunbaked outside. And this week, she shared a
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  Speaker 2: photo dump entitled, there's an Easter egg in this post.
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  Speaker 2: And there certainly were quite a few Easter eggs. So
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  Speaker 2: in one photo, you can see her new beau's chin
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  Speaker 2: stubble while they play Uno. And then in another photo,
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  Speaker 2: he's sitting on Sammy's bed with a red light mask
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  Speaker 2: covering his face. Then there's a photo of Sammy wearing
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  Speaker 2: a t-shirt with the slogan, I love my hot boyfriend.
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  Speaker 1: It's all about the slogan t-shirts at the moment. We
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  Speaker 1: are going to be getting into that in the Morgan
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  Speaker 1: Riddle topic.
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  Speaker 2: So who is this new guy, Kate? I need to
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  Speaker 2: know if he's good enough for my Sammy Robinson. Well,
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  Speaker 2: his name is Kai Thomas and he's actually the real
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  Speaker 2: estate agent that sold Sammy's apartment in the middle of
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  Speaker 2: last year. He's not your regular real estate agent though.
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  Speaker 2: So he is an associate director at the Rubenstein Group
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  Speaker 2: and he stars in reality show Lux Listings.
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  Speaker 1: I love Lux Listings. I'm going to have to go
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  Speaker 1: back and watch this series just to see if he
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  Speaker 1: is good enough for Sammy.
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  Speaker 2: I really want to rewatch it too. Of course, he
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  Speaker 2: is loaded. So he is reportedly a multimillionaire and commands
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  Speaker 2: a median house price sale of just under $ 9 million.
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  Speaker 2: So you can imagine the commission. He's also got 11,000
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  Speaker 2: followers on Instagram and he posts some pretty out there
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  Speaker 2: real estate videos, which is exactly what we said Sammy
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  Speaker 2: needs in our influencer predictions. I think it was two
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  Speaker 2: years ago now. We were hoping that she would date
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  Speaker 2: someone with these vibes. So I think this could be
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  Speaker 2: end game for her. I think she had to switch
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  Speaker 2: things up because her last three boyfriends have been rugby players,
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  Speaker 2: very similar vibes. It's kind of reminding me of her
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  Speaker 2: OG boyfriend, Nick Wheatley, who he was a bit of
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  Speaker 2: a corporate guy. He had a bit of Mr. Big
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  Speaker 2: vibes to him as well. Was he a real estate
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  Speaker 2: agent as well?
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  Speaker 1: That's what I was just going to say. It was
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  Speaker 1: a light bulb moment. I'm pretty sure he was a
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  Speaker 1: real estate agent or is a real estate agent.
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  Speaker 2: What is quite juicy about this relationship is that Sammy
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  Speaker 2: appeared alongside Kai in a video promoting the sale of
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  Speaker 2: her apartment that was shared on Instagram.
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  Speaker 1: And they were quite flirtatious in the video. Let's take
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  Speaker 1: a listen. So use code Sammy20 for 20% off. Okay, okay,
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  Speaker 1: that's enough.
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  Speaker 3: 342 Fairfax Road, Bellevue Hill. Come and take a look.
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  Speaker 1: The flirty vibes didn't stop there.
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  Speaker 2: So Sammy wrote under the video, I got this one, Kai,
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  Speaker 2: don't worry about it, to which Kai replied with three
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  Speaker 2: lightning bolt emojis. Gavin Rubenstein, who is one of the
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  Speaker 2: stars of Lux Listings, also commented, Sammy Robinson, you killed this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that she even agreed to do
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  Speaker 1: it shows that she had interest there. Why do I.
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  Speaker 2: Really want to see Gavin and Sammy Robinson standing next
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  Speaker 2: to each other?
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  Speaker 1: Because Gavin is on the shorter side. Sammy is obviously
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  Speaker 1: a very tall girl.
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  Speaker 2: In that photo dump she posted, she was at an
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  Speaker 2: influencer event and there were these three influencers standing talking
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  Speaker 2: to her and they were all like.
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  Speaker 1: Craning their heads up to look at her. It was
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  Speaker 1: quite comical.
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  Speaker 2: What I want to know is when did Sammy and
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  Speaker 2: Kai actually get together? Because what's interesting is They actually
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  Speaker 2: knew each other when Sammy was still with her then boyfriend,
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  Speaker 2: Sean Stevenson. So as you mentioned, Sean was a rugby
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  Speaker 2: player and they were doing long distance because he plays
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  Speaker 2: rugby in New Zealand. And in a recent interview in March,
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  Speaker 2: Sammy said that she and her boyfriend, Sean, had broken
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  Speaker 2: up about six months ago, which makes it roughly around September, October.
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  Speaker 2: And that lines up with when Sean dropped off from
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  Speaker 2: Sammy's TikTok content. But she was in this video months
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  Speaker 2: earlier in July and I was getting the vibe that
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  Speaker 2: she was into him then. Maybe this just started off
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  Speaker 2: as a bit of a crush. She started liking his
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  Speaker 2: posts in December.
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, that seems above board.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not suggesting that there was anything untoward
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  Speaker 2: going on, but there are instances where you might be
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  Speaker 2: in an unhappy relationship and it's not until you meet
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  Speaker 2: someone that suits you better that that you vibe with
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  Speaker 2: that you realize, oh, hang on, this isn't actually working out.
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  Speaker 1: I wonder if that was the case for Sammy.
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  Speaker 2: I love the fact that they met in real life
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  Speaker 2: because it seems like Sammy has met a lot of
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  Speaker 2: her previous boyfriends on dating apps and You don't really
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  Speaker 2: hear of many real life encounters.
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  Speaker 1: Now that work out. Like this just seems old school.
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  Speaker 2: And I actually think that that's where you build up
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  Speaker 2: this natural chemistry. You start actually having a real life
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  Speaker 2: crush on someone.
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  Speaker 1: You get excited to see them.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's end game because I can just imagine
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  Speaker 2: Sammy's wedding speeches. They actually met when Kai was selling
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  Speaker 2: her apartment. I'm also interested to know if he's been
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  Speaker 2: helping her with her one mile storefront because she recently
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  Speaker 2: told the media that she's hoping to expand from two
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  Speaker 2: stores to four. So, I mean, she's in perfect company.
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  Speaker 3: Can someone tell me the difference between getting online and saying,
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  Speaker 3: I like to take illicit substances on the weekend and
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  Speaker 3: getting online and saying, I like to take peptides?
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  Speaker 1: Because I'm sorry, they're both illegal. They're both not FDA approved.
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  Speaker 3: They're both like acquired through some shady means.
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  Speaker 1: No, you're not imagining it.
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  Speaker 2: Australian influencers are shrinking before your very eyes and there's
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  Speaker 2: a reason, peptides. The latest wellness trend is sweeping social
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  Speaker 2: media and causing alarm for very valid reasons. This week,
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  Speaker 2: two prominent Aussie influencers faced backlash after confirming they're on peptides. Kate,
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  Speaker 2: this term seems to be everywhere at the moment. so
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  Speaker 2: much so that it is creating a bit of confusion online. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I've been seeing this word peptide used in a lot
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  Speaker 2: of different scenarios. So you've got people slamming influencers for
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  Speaker 2: promoting them. And then you've got skincare brands promoting the
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  Speaker 2: fact that the product features peptides.
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  Speaker 1: And I'm like, hang on, isn't that illegal?
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  Speaker 2: So for listeners like me who are just as confused,
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  Speaker 2: let's run through what exactly peptides are. So they are
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  Speaker 2: short chains of amino acids, basically the building blocks of proteins.
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  Speaker 2: that signal your body to do specific things. So things
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  Speaker 2: like boost collagen in skin or support muscle growth, which
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  Speaker 2: is why they're often used in supplements and skincare. Now,
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  Speaker 2: there are peptides that are fully legal and regulated. These
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  Speaker 2: are the ones used in mild forms in skincare. You've
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  Speaker 2: also got peptide-based medicines approved by the TGA that can
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  Speaker 2: be prescribed by a doctor like Ozempic and insulin. Then
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  Speaker 2: there are the unregulated peptides that are not approved for
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  Speaker 2: human use.
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  Speaker 1: And these are much more intense and often injected.
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  Speaker 2: So a lot of the unregulated peptides we're seeing on
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  Speaker 2: social media are the ones that enhance your appearance.
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  Speaker 1: So some of them help you.
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  Speaker 2: Lose weight or build muscle quickly or make your skin glow.
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  Speaker 2: And what is really disturbing about this trend is despite
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  Speaker 2: being unregulated, they're quite easy to buy online. The scariest
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  Speaker 2: bit is people are ignoring the warning. So some websites
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  Speaker 2: even use a disclaimer stating that peptides are for laboratory
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  Speaker 2: use only and not for human or veterinary consumption.
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  Speaker 1: Yet people are still using them. It's really frightening.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, peptides have been around for years now. But
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  Speaker 2: they're very much back in the zeitgeist because of TikTok.
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  Speaker 2: There are a lot of content creators spruiking their benefits,
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  Speaker 2: which has led people to debate which influences are on them.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Ashley Bynes has taken out the guesswork for
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  Speaker 2: her followers. She's been very loud and proud about using peptides.
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  Speaker 2: In a recent Q & A, she confirmed she was
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  Speaker 2: taking three peptides to help with wound healing and pain,
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  Speaker 2: as well as skin, hair and nails. She also spoke
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  Speaker 2: in length about her peptide use during a recent episode
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  Speaker 2: of her podcast. This podcast was such a hard listen.
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  Speaker 2: I actually found myself yelling things back at it while
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  Speaker 2: they were talking.
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  Speaker 1: It was just so frustrating. as she was.
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  Speaker 2: Raving about how incredible peptides are. And then she claimed
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  Speaker 2: that they were very regulated in America, but not many
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  Speaker 2: people are talking about them here.
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  Speaker 1: That is not true. They are not regulated in America.
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  Speaker 2: It is just bringing me back to the early 2010s
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  Speaker 2: when we had a bunch of influencers spreading medical misinformation.
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  Speaker 2: It's completely reminiscent of this time, but even scarier because
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  Speaker 2: people are just willy-nilly injecting these things into their body
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  Speaker 2: that are actually not suitable for human consumption. I really
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  Speaker 2: think in the past 10 years, we've normalized cosmetic procedures
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  Speaker 2: and this pursuit of perfection when it comes to our appearance.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone is so scared of getting old.
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  Speaker 2: Like that's the worst thing in the world to do
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  Speaker 2: and to show your age.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, we're always seeing TikToks of people saying, oh,
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  Speaker 1: millennials look so young. They look younger than Gen Z.
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  Speaker 2: It's like, It's because everyone's going to these absolute extremes
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  Speaker 2: to stay young. They're just putting all of this money
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  Speaker 2: on the table. They'll go to any length in order
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  Speaker 2: to not look old. And this is just another step
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  Speaker 2: and another crazy thing people are doing. And the scariest
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  Speaker 2: thing is that we've got wellness influencers like Ashley Bynes
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  Speaker 2: telling us that this is a completely healthy and normal
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  Speaker 2: thing to do. So people are like, oh, this is
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  Speaker 2: just like chucking a supplement.
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  Speaker 1: Into my smoothie.
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  Speaker 2: The ironic thing with Ashley Bynes is, She claimed that
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  Speaker 2: she was using peptides to help reduce inflammation for these
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  Speaker 2: upcoming elective surgeries that she had. What really frustrated me
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  Speaker 2: is she then proceeded to list the four peptides that
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  Speaker 2: she is using. So she injects these daily and she said,
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  Speaker 2: oh yes, it's said to help inflammation, muscle recovery and anti-aging.
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  Speaker 1: It then got even worse.
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  Speaker 2: Ashi and Tiana then explained that they managed to source
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  Speaker 2: the peptides through this guy they were following on TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: Who shares his peptide journey. Sounds legit. Yeah, so they claim.
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  Speaker 2: That this guy put them onto his, quote, doctor who
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  Speaker 2: prescribed them several peptides.
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  Speaker 1: Please note I use the term prescribed and.
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  Speaker 2: Doctor very loosely because I just think this man was
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  Speaker 2: probably wearing a white coat when he spoke to them.
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  Speaker 1: I think that was the length of his qualifications.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then in order to absolve themselves of any wrongdoing,
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  Speaker 2: they quickly added this disclaimer that they weren't giving medical
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  Speaker 2: advice or recommending anything.
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  Speaker 1: They then said this.
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  Speaker 4: What peptides can do are freaking incredible.
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  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
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  Speaker 4: Like literally everything that you would want to improve, there
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  Speaker 4: is a peptide for it. Now, before anyone comes and
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  Speaker 4: asks us who we're going to, where we're getting them from,
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  Speaker 4: how much, like we don't want to answer that. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm so glad we haven't because we're already not super
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  Speaker 4: happy with who we're going with. We think he might
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  Speaker 4: be kind of overcharging us and maybe overdosing us. Potentially. Potentially.
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  Speaker 1: This is actually insane. I can't believe that this aired
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  Speaker 1: on their podcast. I feel so uncomfortable listening to this.
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  Speaker 2: How can you be so ignorant that you are promoting
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  Speaker 2: the fact that you're using peptides, but then say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: actually this guy that we found on TikTok is actually
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  Speaker 2: giving us too much. He's overdosing us. And also he's
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  Speaker 2: charging us too much. Sorry, but you mentioning it, you're
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  Speaker 2: recommending it. You're a wellness influencer. Don't fucking tell people
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  Speaker 2: to do it. If you think that this is incorrect,
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  Speaker 2: that you're, you know, that you're, having these side effects
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  Speaker 2: because of it. Well, Sophie, you would not believe what
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  Speaker 2: else they shared. So after introducing this peptide topic on
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  Speaker 2: their podcast and raving about how great peptides are, they
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  Speaker 2: then went on to list all the awful side effects
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  Speaker 2: that they've been experiencing. So Ashley explained that every time
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  Speaker 2: she injects herself with peptides, She gets a lump in
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  Speaker 2: the injection point that turns red and itchy. She said
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  Speaker 2: she's also started feeling anxious after years and years of
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  Speaker 2: never feeling anxious.
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  Speaker 1: But as long as you look hot and young, it
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  Speaker 1: doesn't matter, does it?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And then Tiana said that her eyes won't stop running.
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  Speaker 2: And at one point she had racing heart palpitations and
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  Speaker 2: a rash on her face. They also complained about how
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  Speaker 2: expensive these peptides are and that they've been told.
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  Speaker 1: That the doctor's ripping them off.
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  Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but are these not alarm bells that maybe
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  Speaker 2: you shouldn't be on it and you shouldn't be promoting
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  Speaker 2: it to your audience? I mean, do they think that
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  Speaker 2: because they're being open about the terrible side effects that
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  Speaker 2: they've experienced that somehow it makes it better? To be
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  Speaker 2: fair to Ashley and Tiana, at least they included... the bad.
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  Speaker 1: Side of things.
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  Speaker 2: Like it would have been worse if they didn't mention
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  Speaker 2: any of these side effects.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I get that.
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  Speaker 2: But then at the same time, if you're a young
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  Speaker 2: girl listening to this, potentially with low self-esteem, you're being
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  Speaker 2: bullied over your weight, you might think to yourself, well,
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  Speaker 2: I could put up with heart palpitations and, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a sore injection spot if I can
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  Speaker 2: be thin.
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  Speaker 1: That is true.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not supporting what they've done in this
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  Speaker 2: podcast by any means, but I am appreciative that they
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  Speaker 2: actually included the negative side of things.
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  Speaker 1: I nearly choked when I heard this next bit.
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  Speaker 2: So after detailing all of the side effects that they
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  Speaker 2: had experienced, they also divulged that this apparent doctor had
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  Speaker 2: prescribed them a, quote, very controversial drug that they were
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  Speaker 2: yet to take. Now, the drug in question is a
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  Speaker 2: prescription medication used to treat type 2 diabetes. And the
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  Speaker 2: reason people without type 2 diabetes are using it is
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  Speaker 2: to suppress their appetite.
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  Speaker 1: So Ashley claimed that it wasn't to suppress her appetite.
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  Speaker 2: It was because her doctor apparently said that if she
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  Speaker 2: did a micro dose of it, it would help with inflammation.
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  Speaker 1: So she wouldn't lose weight.
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  Speaker 2: They then said that they haven't used it despite actually
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  Speaker 2: paying for it. It's sitting in their fridge, but they
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  Speaker 2: said it just didn't feel right. It felt more like
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  Speaker 2: a medical drug than a peptide. Now, my take on
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  Speaker 2: that is, They've come out and said that because they're
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  Speaker 2: worried that this doctor is going to expose that Ashley
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  Speaker 2: Bynes has been buying appetite suppressants.
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  Speaker 1: This is a.
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  Speaker 2: Huge reminder to everyone who sees wellness and fitness influences
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  Speaker 2: online and enviously looks at their bodies and thinks, oh,
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  Speaker 2: maybe if I just pay for their fitness course, I
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  Speaker 2: can look like them. Like this is This is lifting
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  Speaker 2: a huge lid on what's actually going on in the
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  Speaker 2: fitness world.
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  Speaker 1: Like this is, I actually, like my jaw is on
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  Speaker 1: the ground. I am shocked that this is going on.
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  Speaker 1: Am I naive?
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  Speaker 2: It was funny because I was talking to my husband
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  Speaker 2: about peptides and he studied human movement and he also
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: worked as a personal trainer in his early 20s. And
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  Speaker 2: he's like, they have been around for ages. A lot
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  Speaker 2: of people have been on them. But I said, but
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  Speaker 2: this is different.
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  Speaker 1: These are influencers.
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  Speaker 2: Who are saying, this is what I'm on to look
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  Speaker 2: like me. Like it's completely changed beforehand. You'd hide the
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  Speaker 2: fact that you were using peptides. You'd want people to think, okay,
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  Speaker 2: they got that naturally. But people are now going, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this is how I do it. And people just think
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  Speaker 2: it's normal. And it's like, oh, okay, well, it's not
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  Speaker 2: that dangerous if everyone's on it. And it's like, well,
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  Speaker 2: you don't know how your body's.
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  Speaker 1: Going to react.
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  Speaker 2: As you can imagine, Ashi's peptide confession has been met
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  Speaker 2: with backlash. TikToker Maddie Naper, who has 10,000 followers, isn't
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  Speaker 2: happy with Ashi. She posed the question to her followers,
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  Speaker 2: What's the difference between getting online and saying, I like
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  Speaker 2: to take illicit substances on the weekend and getting online.
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  Speaker 1: And saying, I like to take peptides? A very good question.
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  Speaker 2: She pointed out they're both illegal, not FDA approved and
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  Speaker 2: are acquired through shady means.
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  Speaker 1: She then said this.
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  Speaker 3: And then you have influencers like Ashley Bynes who have
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  Speaker 3: close to a million followers getting online and being like,
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  Speaker 3: oh yeah, I take peptides, but I'm not promoting it.
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  Speaker 3: But here are the exact ones that I'm taking and
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  Speaker 3: here are the benefits. I just cannot understand this. When
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  Speaker 3: you have an audience and an audience that is tapped
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  Speaker 3: into what you are sharing, you're promoting it. Whether you're
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  Speaker 3: making money from it or not, it's promotion. That's exactly
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  Speaker 3: what it is.
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  Speaker 2: I could not agree more with Maddie's take on this.
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  Speaker 2: I can't stand it when people go, Oh, well, people
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  Speaker 2: ask me, so I'm just sharing it, but I'm not
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  Speaker 2: promoting it, even though I'm going into explicit detail which ones.
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  Speaker 1: I'm on and what they're doing for me.
• 16:04
  Speaker 2: It reminds me on a lesser scale of when people
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: share their day on a plate when they're wellness influencers.
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: And I was like, everyone has just been requesting and
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: asking me about what I eat, but don't follow what
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I do. I'm not telling you that this is a
• 16:16
  Speaker 1: food guide. It's like bullshit.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: Now, another Australian influencer who's been dragged into this peptide
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: debate is Sammy Guggenheimer. Now, she was forced to confess
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: she uses peptides after a screenshot of her inbox showing
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: an email receipt from a company called Prime Peptides went viral.
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: And it was pretty.
• 16:34
  Speaker 2: Ironic because in February, Sam made what appeared to be
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: a thinly veiled swipe at her former best friend, Izzy Armitage.
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: So at the time, she urged her followers not to
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: be too hard on themselves and their bodies as she knew, quote,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: a fair few people who use a Zempik, which of
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: course is a prescription-based regulated peptide. Now, I do want
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: to point out that Izzy Armitage is yet to confirm
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: or deny if she uses peptides. Rumors have been swirling
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: though for months since she lost a noticeable amount of
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: weight in a very short period of time.
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: I mean, people love nothing more than a gotcha moment,
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: don't they?
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, this one was perfectly timed off the back
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: of those fatphobic comments that she and her best, well,
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: former bestie now, Bill Barker, made a couple of weeks ago.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: There's also been a lot.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: Of speculation surrounding Sam's body, which again is really gross.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: She herself has admitted that she recently lost weight, which
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: is why people instantly jumped to the conclusion that she
• 17:30
  Speaker 2: was on.
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: Weight loss peptides.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: Well, Sam quickly came out and denied that she was
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: on appetite suppressing peptides. She did, however, admit that she's
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: been taking peptides that help with her skin and gut.
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: So she explained she has lost weight due to starting
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: ADHD medication as well as returning to the gym. She
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: also spoke really candidly about struggling with her mental health
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: and said that she has had a history of anorexia before.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: She essentially said her eating disorder flares up when her
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: mental health is bad. And that's why I just feel
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: really uncomfortable about this whole gotcha moment with Sam because
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: she's clearly struggling at the moment.
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: She has been in the headlines a lot.
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: This is a really young girl and I don't think
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: that we should be throwing as much shade and hate
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: her way. The irony of this gotcha moment isn't lost
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: on me because you've got this group of people saying,
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: hang on, Sam, you should be transparent about the peptides
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: you're using. However, if she had publicly spoken about using peptides,
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: she would have got slammed like Ashley Bynes for promoting
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: them to her audience. And now that she's been called out,
• 18:33
  Speaker 2: she's had to address it and set the record straight
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: on what peptide she's actually using. And that's meant she's
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: had to reference them by name and go into what
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: they do to her very young and impressionable audience who
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: will no doubt now want to go and be on
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: the same ones. This is what Sam says that she
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: was trying to protect her audience against. That was often
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: a conversation around the newsrooms when I worked as a
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: journalist at Seven. We would want to do stories warning
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: people against particular trends online or if it was something
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: about weight loss drugs, for example. But the debate with
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: some of the producers was like, well, are we telling
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: people what to do? Is this actually promoting it rather
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: than slamming it? Yeah, it's a really difficult one to
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: get right. I think in Sam's case, maybe it would
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: have been helpful for her not to specifically go into
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: detail about the peptides that she uses and maybe to
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: have spoken more.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: Generally about them.
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: The drama really doesn't seem to stop for Sam because
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: just days after she addressed this peptide allegation, Bill Barker
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: shared his thoughts on influencers promoting peptides, which seemed very
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: aimed at Sam. Now, it's interesting because Bill is Sam's
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: latest ex-best friend. So the pair were friends for six years. However,
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: Bill confirmed on Monday night during a live TikTok with
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Amber from Influencer Updates AU that their friendship is now over.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: So as we predicted, it was down to Sam posting
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: the TikTok where he made that fatphobic comment. And he
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: shared with Amber that he actually sent Sam a friendship
• 20:01
  Speaker 2: breakup text that she allegedly replied Not a very nice
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: message back and blocked him.
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Quite iconic that.
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: He's appearing on lives for influencer updates.
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny. Amber said it wasn't actually planned. It
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: just happened really organically.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: What I found particularly interesting in this live is that
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: Bill confirmed he's friends again with Izzy Armitage.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: What an absolute burn to Sam. And with all that context,
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: Convinced that Bill was in fact throwing shade at Sam.
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: So in the video he posted on TikTok, He admitted
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: that he used peptides before, and he's been really open
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: with his audience about it. So if they ask, he
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: said he's very transparent that, yes, I have been using them.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: He then said, what's worse than talking about peptides online
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: is lying about using them to your impressionable audience and
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: pretending instead that you've earned your body through hard work.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Bill went on to say, just own it and people
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: may trust you a bit more. This is really reminding
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: me of the debate that popped up around 10 years
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: ago about when influencers started normalizing cosmetic procedures and taking
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: viewers behind the scenes in their vlogs of them getting
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: lip filler or Botox. And there was one half of
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: people saying, this is fantastic because they're breaking down the wall.
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: They're being transparent that they, you know, they look like
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: this because of these enhancements. But then other people were saying, hey,
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: this isn't great because it is normalizing it and making
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: teenagers think that in order to be successful and in
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: order to be beautiful, that they have.
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: To do this.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: The scary thing is this has all gone up a
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: level in 10 years because at least the procedures that
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: influencers were promoting were TGA approved.
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: Like these peptides are unregulated. They are incredibly dangerous.
• 21:44
  Speaker 2: And it really frightens me the fact that young people
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: are just purchasing these online and injecting them into their body.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: With no idea what the effect is going to be.
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: After weeks of speculation, influencer Morgan Riddle has confirmed her
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: split from US tennis star Taylor Fritz. The news has
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: sent shockwaves throughout the tennis world, with fans devastated the
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: most famous woman in men's tennis, will no longer be
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: showcasing her fashion court side. So I felt really sad
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: when I saw this news because Morgan has been so
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: instrumental in drawing in a new generation of female tennis fans.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I don't think.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Anyone can downplay the impact that she's had on the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: tennis world over the past four years. She has been
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: widely credited with helping attract more young female fans by
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: being one of the first partners to give a behind-the-scenes
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: look at what it's really like to spend 40 weeks
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: on the international tennis circuit. Morgan was an influencer before
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: she met Taylor, but her following really exploded when she
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: started sharing Get Ready With Me videos at the Aussie Open.
• 22:45
  Speaker 2: And what really stood out about her is instead of
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: being ashamed of the title of a wag, she really
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: reclaimed it and people seemed to love it. It was
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: really reminiscent of the Victoria Beckham days, like that sort
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: of glamour around wags really came back. And, I mean,
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: her courtside fashion has been so iconic that she's been
• 23:03
  Speaker 2: featured in Vogue, Harper's Bazaar, and also GQ. And as
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: you touched on, the New York Times went as far
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: as calling Morgan the most famous woman in men's tennis
• 23:13
  Speaker 2: back in 2024. So her impact on the game has
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: been enormous. And this is a really sad day for
• 23:18
  Speaker 2: the tennis world. I mean, that might sound melodramatic, but
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: I was really sad. I'm like, oh my God, she's
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: not going to be back at the Aussie Open next year. Look,
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: I wouldn't be ultra surprised if we see her date
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: another tennis player or even maybe F1 driver.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: I think that could be her vibe.
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Well, I've actually heard reports that she's the one that
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: pulled the pin on the relationship because She wants to
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: be known as a separate entity and not just the
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: partner of a famous sports star. Well, arguably, she's more
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: well-known than Taylor Fritz. I mean, she was the one
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: that was actually attracting more eyeballs on his games.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Well, I wonder if that's caused a bit of tension
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: in their relationship as well.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Now, getting into their relationship timeline just quickly, Morgan and
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: Taylor have been together for almost six years. They began
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: dating in June 2020 after they met on celebrity dating
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: app Raya. It's actually just a year after Taylor got divorced.
• 24:05
  Speaker 2: So he used to be married to professional tennis player
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: Raquel Pedreza. So they were high school sweethearts. They got
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: married in 2016 and they share an eight-year-old son called Jordan.
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: I wonder how Raquel felt about Taylor having this new
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: flashy girlfriend rocking up because the tennis scene would have
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: been her scene too. Well, particularly not long after them
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: getting divorced. I think the worst thing is that Morgan
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: and Raquel.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: look really similar? Oh, they do. It's crazy. He obviously
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: has a type.
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: In terms of these breakup rumors, they first started circulating
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: in early April. So celebrity watchdog account Dumois posted a
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: tip off they'd received, which was entitled Game Set Match.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: And the anonymous sender wrote, tennis star Taylor Fritz has
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: officially broken things off with long-term girlfriend Morgan Riddle. My
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: BFF is seeing one of his physios and can confirm
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: they broke up and she's now officially moved to New
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: York City with a finance man. Another anonymous sender also wrote,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: are you hearing anything about American tennis player Taylor Fritz
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: and long-term girlfriend Morgan Riddle? Tennis insiders are saying they're done,
• 25:10
  Speaker 2: but Morgan denied that a couple of weeks ago, but
• 25:13
  Speaker 2: she's unpinned a lot of Fritz-related content on her socials,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: and Taylor's been spotted on Raya. Now, underneath that post,
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: a number of users confirmed I had seen Taylor on Raya.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: What a kick in the dick for Morgan.
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: Why not go back to the original platform where you
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: secured an amazing partner? It's interesting because after these rumors
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: started swirling, Morgan actually denied the breakup. So she tagged
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Taylor in a post and wrote, damn, did you know
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: about this?
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, that all appeared.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: To be damage control because this week Morgan confirmed the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: news on Instagram that But unlike most celebrity couples, the
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: pair didn't opt for the stock standard black and white
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: tile announcement. Morgan broke the news in what's been dubbed
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: a breakup dump. So she captioned the post.
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: Is this thing on?
• 26:00
  Speaker 2: Why do I feel like this caption would have been
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: doing the rounds in her friend chat and everyone be like, yep,
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: that's it. It actually would have been more fitting if
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: she just labeled it dumped because a lot of the
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: speculation is Taylor dumped Morgan. I'm actually hearing more speculation
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: that she dumped him. It's actually not clear who pulled
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: the pin on this relationship. See, I think she was
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: the one that was dumped, particularly based on her behavior
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: after these rumors started swirling. I mean, she had dumped him.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: Why would she tag him in a post and write, damn,
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: did you hear about this? Now, getting back to this
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: Instagram dump, the series of photos revealed that Morgan has
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: moved from Los Angeles, where she was living with Taylor.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: To New York.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: And the post included photos of moving boxes, as well
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: as Morgan on the tube and in a yellow taxi.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I mean, whole post had sex in the city vibes.
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: It showed Morgan out on the town with her girlfriends
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: and even included a photo of Samantha Jones with the caption,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: the ego of a man trapped in the body.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Of a woman.
• 26:55
  Speaker 2: Isn't it interesting that Dumois got it 100% correct because
• 26:58
  Speaker 2: they said she moved to New York City? Now, the
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: photo which all but confirmed the breakup news was of
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Morgan wearing a T-shirt that said.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: World's Best Ex-Girlfriend.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: I mean, I love the fact that she broke this
• 27:11
  Speaker 2: news through fashion, seeing as her style is what she
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: has become known for. How many people do you think
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: went out and bought that T-shirt off the back of that?
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: Because that is absolutely iconic. A girl I know recently...
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: celebrated the fact that her divorce papers came through and
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: she did it by having a cake that said world's
• 27:27
  Speaker 2: hottest ex-wife on it.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Oh, that was absolutely iconic.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: This actually confirms to me that she was the one
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: that was dumped though, because if you were the dumper
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: You'd hardly wear this type of t-shirt. Like to me,
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: this t-shirt signals that she's pissed off and this is
• 27:42
  Speaker 2: a bit of a fuck you post. Yeah, and it's
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: almost like I've taken this in my stride. I'm not
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: being petty. I'm happy to move on even though you're
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the one that's dumped me. You can tell that every
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: single photo in this dump would have been painstakingly agonized
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: over it. She even included a photo of her in
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: bed with tears streaming down her face. There was also
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: a photo of a New York restaurant with a banner
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: out the front that said, you can cry here. More
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: signs that she was the one that was dumped.
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: She also got really 2012 with it.
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: She included a quote that said, I'm you from the
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: future and I have wonderful news.
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Everything is about to change.
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: Isn't there nothing more cringe than going back over your
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: phone at a time that you were dumped? and finding
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: screenshots of all the cringe quotes that you thought were
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: appropriate to post on Instagram? It's really embarrassing because when
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: I got dumped back in 2014, the day after I
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: uploaded a quote from Taylor Swift's All Too Well lyric,
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: and I think it was about, you know, feeling like
• 28:38
  Speaker 2: a crumpled up piece of paper lying here. And my
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: ex-boyfriend was still following me at the time. And I'm like,
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: what the fuck was I thinking? Like, how pathetic do
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: you want to look? I just find it amusing the
• 28:48
  Speaker 2: difference between men and women and how you can suddenly
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: tell when one is single. Like a man will just
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: suddenly change his profile photo and it'd be some weird selfie. Yeah,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: they're suddenly active on social media after being MIA for
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: the last five years that they've been in that relationship.
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: They've started running again. Suddenly they're sharing their Strava update.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: I mean, this is 35-year-old men I'm talking about.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: I think it relates to the mid-20s as well.
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: I really loved seeing this story being reported on by
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: male journos who work in sport because one of them
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: described the photo dump.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: As really confusing.
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: Like they couldn't understand it. They were like, oh, in
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: this really absurd photo dump. It's like, sorry, this is
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: absolute poetry in motion here. She's painted the whole story
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: out for you.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: You just have to piece it together It's Easter eggs.
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: It's like a Taylor Swift thing.
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: She's literally living her best life in New York, surrounded
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: by her female besties. She's throwing it out there that
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: she's a strong woman with a reference to Samantha Jones.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: She's showing that she's upset, crying. She's moved to New York.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: What else do they fucking want from this photo dump? Yeah,
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: what she's saying is, look, I'm independent. I've moved on.
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: I'm in New York living my best life. But I'm
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: also self-aware enough and vulnerable enough that I also have
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: been crying. And also, he dumped me, is the word
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: she's saying. Now, Soph, I know you are trying to
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: convince yourself that Morgan was the one that made this decision.
• 30:09
  Speaker 2: But the fact that one of her friends wrote under
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: the post, historic fumble, makes it even clearer to me
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: that she was the one that was dumped. Another friend
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: also wrote, always has been, always will be iconic. And
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: a follower wrote, I'm going to miss you so much
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: on that box queen. Despite the overwhelming feeling being sadness
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: over this breakup, there were some male fans who were
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: rejoicing over it saying, oh, yes, a 2026 Grand Slam
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: is incoming for Taylor because he doesn't have all of
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: these distractions on and off the court anymore. I love
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: that they don't consider a breakup being a distraction. Oh,
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: he might be heartbroken about the fact that he's no
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: longer with his long-term girlfriend. Oh, that's not going to
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: be distracting at all. Oh, but now that she's not,
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: you know, posting selfies of what she's wearing online, like,
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I mean... He's been doing pretty well the last five
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: years that he's been with her.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, he's going to.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Be distracted by all of the girls now sliding into
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: his DMs because he's an attractive guy. And obviously people
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: can see that it's a career opportunity being on the
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: circuit with him. And Morgan has made him better. You know,
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: when a guy has a really hot girlfriend, like, yeah,
• 31:14
  Speaker 2: she has completely elevated him. I mean, I just think
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: it's ironic that men are blaming her for his performance
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: on the court instead of actually applauding the massive impact
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: that she's had on the sport. I mean, she has attracted,
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: as we touched on, so many female fans. It reminds
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: me of the vitriol that some male NFL fans have
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: had towards Taylor Swift, despite the fact that she also
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: drew in a whole new demographic of female fans for
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: the sport. Yeah, to me, it just shows that men
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: don't want females interested in sport. They just want to
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: keep it all to themselves. I am interested to see
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: what this means for Morgan's career moving forward, because back
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: in January, it was widely reported that she out-earned Taylor
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: during the Australian Open. So while Taylor made roughly $ 475, 000
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: for reaching the round of 16 at the Oz Open,
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Morgan's earnings reportedly surpassed that, reaching over $ 498, 000. It will
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  Speaker 2: be interesting to see how she pivots her content and
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  Speaker 2: whether sport will still be a feature in Because she
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  Speaker 2: recently founded the 400s Club, which is a platform that
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  Speaker 2: helps sport to be catered to the female fan. Look,
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  Speaker 2: I think she's going to be okay. She can now
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  Speaker 2: just focus her content purely on her. It's not like
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  Speaker 2: she's not going to have events to document. You know,
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  Speaker 2: she previously had Wimbledon and the Australian Open. Next, it
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  Speaker 2: will probably be Coachella and other influencer events. I think
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  Speaker 2: that is all we have time for today. Thank you
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