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Being a Badass Manifester with The Quantum Coach Ashley Gordon · Reclaiming Consciousness

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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to Reclaiming Consciousness.
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SPEAKER_01: My name is Elise Bassine, spiritual mentor, breathwork practitioner, and owner and CEO of Elise Breeds.
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SPEAKER_01: For many years, our consciousness has been hijacked by societal and cultural programming, religion, the media, and familial and ancestral trauma.
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SPEAKER_01: Right now, during this epic time in history, people are waking up, realizing who they really are, and reclaiming the pieces of their consciousness that they unknowingly gave away.
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SPEAKER_01: This podcast is an exploration of how so many spectacular humans are leading the way in exiting the matrix and reclaiming who they really are and what they're capable of.
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SPEAKER_01: In this show, you'll meet exceptional people who are paving the way in raising consciousness and creating a new way of living on this earth.
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SPEAKER_01: Get ready to go deep.
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SPEAKER_01: Now let's dive in.
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SPEAKER_01: Hi everyone.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome back to Reclaiming Consciousness.
1:03
SPEAKER_01: This week's guest, I know you guys are gonna love her.
1:06
SPEAKER_01: I just felt like an instant connection with her.
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SPEAKER_01: So today we have Ashley Gordon, who is the quantum coach, and she's also the host of the Badass Manifester podcast.
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SPEAKER_01: And she's really truly inspirational.
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SPEAKER_01: So I instantly connected with her because we actually live really close to each other.
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SPEAKER_01: She lives at the Jersey Shore, basically where I go to the Jersey Shore every year.
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SPEAKER_01: So we instantly connected, and she is highly inspirational.
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SPEAKER_01: And you guys are just gonna love her story.
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SPEAKER_01: She was in real estate and then she ended up just quitting, not really knowing why she was quitting, becoming a yoga teacher, and then just gradually starting to realize that she was supposed to be a coach and that she could really help people.
1:56
SPEAKER_01: And she has grown a really successful business and um now has the Quantum Coach Academy where she trains other coaches.
2:05
SPEAKER_01: So I know you're really gonna love this episode.
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SPEAKER_01: But she is highly inspirational and just a really expansive vision for everyone of truly what's possible.
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SPEAKER_01: And also right now, I am opening up space to work with me one-on-one, as I mentioned.
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SPEAKER_01: So if that's something you're feeling drawn to do, definitely reach out to me.
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SPEAKER_01: This is for the woman who is really looking to make drastic changes in her life.
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SPEAKER_01: If you know you're here for more, if you know you're ready to go to the next level and you've been doing all the things, but you know there's something you might not be seeing or a block that you keep coming up against and you're not sure exactly how to move past it, I will see it and I will help you move through it.
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SPEAKER_01: That's what I do.
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SPEAKER_01: So reach out to me so we can talk about the best way that we can work together.
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SPEAKER_01: All right, enjoy the episode.
3:01
SPEAKER_01: Hi guys, welcome back to Reclaiming Consciousness.
3:04
SPEAKER_01: I am super, super excited about today's guest.
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SPEAKER_01: We just like instantly connected.
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SPEAKER_01: We're actually both like East Coast girls, like go to the same place at the Jersey Shore.
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SPEAKER_01: So we are like totally connected.
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SPEAKER_01: So today I have Ashley Gordon with us.
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SPEAKER_01: And Ashley is the CEO of the Quantum Coach Co.
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SPEAKER_01: and creator of the Badass Manifestor brand and top podcast with almost a million downloads and counting.
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SPEAKER_01: Ashley and her team help coaches start, grow, and scale their businesses, master the craft of coaching, and step into their big coach energy.
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SPEAKER_01: She's also the founder of the Internationally Accredited Coaching Certification Program, Quantum Coaching Academy, an immersive six-month certification program that trains the next generation of world-class coaches and leaders in life-changing in eight modalities.
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SPEAKER_01: Wow, that's amazing.
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SPEAKER_01: Welcome to the show, Ashley.
3:58
SPEAKER_00: I'm so excited to be here.
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SPEAKER_00: Thank you.
4:00
SPEAKER_00: And yes, we did click right away.
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SPEAKER_00: It's like instant Soul Sisters.
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SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, we're definitely gonna be hanging out at the shore this summer.
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SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited.
4:10
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, me too.
4:11
SPEAKER_01: I'd love to hear your story.
4:13
SPEAKER_01: How did you go from just growing up in New Jersey, obviously, to being the quantum coach?
4:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
4:19
SPEAKER_00: So I think it's it's most relevant to share just how I was the type of person that never knew.
4:25
SPEAKER_00: You know how some people like they know exactly what they want to do when they grow up, they go to school for it, they're on that path.
4:31
SPEAKER_00: I never had a path.
4:32
SPEAKER_00: I never had a clear pathway.
4:34
SPEAKER_00: I never was like, I want to be a doctor, I want to be a lawyer.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, like typical career paths that, you know, seem to light some people up.
4:42
SPEAKER_00: That was never my thing.
4:43
SPEAKER_00: So I went to college as a communication major, had no clue what I wanted to do.
4:48
SPEAKER_00: I was a jack of all trades.
4:50
SPEAKER_00: I literally did everything that you can imagine.
4:52
SPEAKER_00: I worked at a billboard advertising company.
4:54
SPEAKER_00: I worked at a nightclub.
4:56
SPEAKER_00: I worked at, I did like alcohol promotions, like promoting Bud Light.
5:01
SPEAKER_00: I was a Bud Light girl for a hot minute.
5:03
SPEAKER_00: Like I did so many things.
5:05
SPEAKER_00: And I realized that I didn't know my purpose.
5:08
SPEAKER_00: And it wasn't until I was 18.
5:11
SPEAKER_00: Well, going back when I was 18, my mom showed me the movie The Secret.
5:15
SPEAKER_00: And that was like the beginning of my of reclaiming my consciousness.
5:20
SPEAKER_00: Really, like that was really the beginning of realizing like I am an energetic being and my thoughts create my reality, and I'm the creator of my life.
5:31
SPEAKER_00: And I've never ever thought in that way before, but it made perfect sense.
5:36
SPEAKER_00: And so I could do the manifesting thing for like the little things.
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SPEAKER_00: I could go to a bar and have guys buy me drinks.
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SPEAKER_00: I would walk into a nightclub and be like, okay, guys, we're getting free bottle service tonight, just watch the magic happen, you know?
5:48
SPEAKER_00: And it's funny to like talk about that because I don't even drink alcohol anymore, but back then I did.
5:54
SPEAKER_00: And so I was manifesting all these little things, but I wasn't manifesting like on the level of my purpose.
6:01
SPEAKER_00: And so I was very lost in that way.
6:04
SPEAKER_00: And I ended up working in real estate, working with my boyfriend at the time and his family, which was not a good environment for me.
6:12
SPEAKER_00: It was actually very toxic for me to be there and to be in that dynamic.
6:17
SPEAKER_00: And I was there for years, like stuck in this energy for years.
6:21
SPEAKER_00: And it was just really not good for me, not good for my soul.
6:25
SPEAKER_00: And I would just cry, I would pray, I would cry, be like, God, help me, like, help me understand like why I'm here, what my purpose is, like, why I'm not feeling good enough.
6:34
SPEAKER_00: Like, just so much was coming up for me, so much polarity.
6:37
SPEAKER_00: And I ended up getting invited, actually got dared to go to a yoga class.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
6:42
SPEAKER_00: Someone literally dared me to go to a yoga class.
6:45
SPEAKER_00: We were actually drunk at the time.
6:50
SPEAKER_00: She's like, I dare you to go to yoga with me tomorrow.
6:52
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, okay, fine, like, challenge me, I'll be there.
6:54
SPEAKER_00: I've been invited to yoga before, but never said yes.
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SPEAKER_00: And I went.
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SPEAKER_00: The girl who invited me didn't even show up.
7:01
SPEAKER_00: I'm like looking around the room for her, like, she's not here.
7:04
SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
7:06
SPEAKER_00: But that yoga clash started, that was like one of the answers to my prayers.
7:10
SPEAKER_00: And it was just, it started me on this journey of going inward.
7:14
SPEAKER_00: I was just so disconnected from myself.
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SPEAKER_00: I didn't know who I was.
7:17
SPEAKER_00: And it started to help me peel back the layers of who I really truly was.
7:22
SPEAKER_00: And that led me to yoga training, which changed my life.
7:26
SPEAKER_00: And in my yoga training, I was held accountable to have a hard conversation with my future in-law at that point and say, like, I'm done working in real estate.
7:35
SPEAKER_00: And it was such a hard decision, such a hard conversation.
7:40
SPEAKER_00: And it was like the most freeing conversation that I ever had, though, because at that point I said, I'm not doing this anymore.
7:47
SPEAKER_00: I immediately stopped working there and I started working at my yoga studio, making$10 an hour at the front desk and welcoming people to their yoga classes.
7:57
SPEAKER_00: And that was the beginning of realizing like being in the transformational field is what I'm meant to do.
8:04
SPEAKER_00: So that's like not how I got to the quantum coach yet, but that's just a little bit.
8:08
SPEAKER_00: And I'll just pause here for a second.
8:10
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
8:11
SPEAKER_01: Well, I can relate to that so much because I know for me, yoga was a huge kind of like, I mean, I think it's kind of a gateway for a lot of people into spirituality.
8:21
SPEAKER_01: So I can totally relate to that and also like not quitting jobs and then like working at yoga studios.
8:27
SPEAKER_01: And I definitely did that too.
8:29
SPEAKER_01: So I can totally relate to that and just being in that energy.
8:33
SPEAKER_01: Like I think I told you in our last conversation, like I worked at a yoga studio and that's how I discovered breath work, which like ultimately took me on my path.
8:42
SPEAKER_01: So I can totally relate to that.
8:44
SPEAKER_01: And I'm guessing that's probably like kind of what set you forward on the next part of your journey.
8:49
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
8:49
SPEAKER_00: People would come in late for class, and I don't know what how your yoga studio was, but if you were late for class, you were not getting in to class.
8:57
SPEAKER_00: So the doors would be locked, and that's it.
8:59
SPEAKER_00: And so people would be talking to me.
9:01
SPEAKER_00: I was at the front desk and they would just talk and talk and pour their hearts out.
9:04
SPEAKER_00: And next thing you know, they're oming class is over.
9:07
SPEAKER_00: And they're like, wow, I really enjoyed talking to you.
9:10
SPEAKER_00: And those were just like little breadcrumbs, I feel like that the universe was giving me because it didn't dawn on me that I didn't know life coaching was a thing.
9:17
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know that was like the thing that I was gonna be doing until I was at a wedding and I was on the dance floor with my husband, and I had had a previous conversation with someone that was at the wedding before the wedding, like a month or two before the wedding.
9:31
SPEAKER_00: And I looked at her on the dance floor and she was like glowing and just radiant.
9:35
SPEAKER_00: And I went up to her and I was like, girl, you look amazing.
9:39
SPEAKER_00: Like you look absolutely incredible.
9:41
SPEAKER_00: And she was like, Ashley, you changed my life.
9:43
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, What?
9:44
SPEAKER_00: Like it was the whole room just kind of froze.
9:47
SPEAKER_00: And I turned to my husband and I was like, I think I'm supposed to be a life coach.
9:51
SPEAKER_00: It just like hit me in that moment.
9:53
SPEAKER_00: And it was just the download.
9:55
SPEAKER_00: It was the download that I had been waiting for, and I couldn't believe it.
9:58
SPEAKER_00: Like I was like, This is this is it.
9:59
SPEAKER_00: Is that a thing?
10:00
SPEAKER_00: And I'm Googling on the way home from the wedding, like making money as a life coach.
10:04
SPEAKER_00: Like, is this a thing?
10:06
SPEAKER_00: Like, I had no idea.
10:08
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
10:09
SPEAKER_00: So started taking clients for free in the yoga studio, started leading vision board workshops, like started doing little talks here and there.
10:18
SPEAKER_00: And I started leading workshops at this spa that was local spa.
10:22
SPEAKER_00: And I had a community from the yoga community.
10:24
SPEAKER_00: So people would come.
10:25
SPEAKER_00: And from there, I started offering 30-minute free sessions and I started my business in person.
10:31
SPEAKER_00: Everything was in person.
10:32
SPEAKER_00: I didn't know the online world existed at this time and no clue.
10:35
SPEAKER_00: So I had an office in person, and people would come to my office and I coach them in the office, and it just started happening very, very quickly.
10:41
SPEAKER_00: And one day, are you familiar with Manifestation Babe?
10:44
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
10:45
SPEAKER_00: One day, someone at I was leaving a workshop and they were like, You should follow this girl, Manifestation Babe.
10:50
SPEAKER_00: You guys kind of have like a similar vibe going on.
10:52
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, okay.
10:54
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, oh, someone else is teaching this.
10:56
SPEAKER_00: Like it blew my mind that somebody else was teaching this.
10:59
SPEAKER_00: I don't know why.
11:00
SPEAKER_00: And I followed her.
11:02
SPEAKER_00: She messaged me and asked me, this was like at the beginning when she was just starting.
11:07
SPEAKER_00: She asked me if I had ever considered doing a digital program, having a digital program for my business.
11:14
SPEAKER_00: Never crossed my mind.
11:15
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't think so.
11:16
SPEAKER_00: Like my business was in person, you know?
11:18
SPEAKER_00: Right.
11:19
SPEAKER_00: And the next day, someone from India booked a discovery call with me, which had never happened before.
11:26
SPEAKER_00: So that was the universe telling me like you can expand your reach if you have a digital program.
11:32
SPEAKER_00: So all these pieces started falling into place.
11:36
SPEAKER_00: And then I took it online.
11:38
SPEAKER_00: I took it online, and that's kind of how it all kind of started.
11:42
SPEAKER_00: And then the whole coaching certification thing I can share about in a little bit, but that's that's how it started.
11:46
SPEAKER_00: And then years later, I manifested Catherine manifestation babe as like one of my best friends, literally.
11:52
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
11:56
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
11:57
SPEAKER_01: That's so okay.
11:59
SPEAKER_01: So it's interesting because so you brought your business online before COVID or anything.
12:05
SPEAKER_00: Oh yeah.
12:05
SPEAKER_00: This was back in like 2018.
12:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
12:08
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
12:09
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
12:09
SPEAKER_01: Because I know for me, I didn't really start my business till 2020.
12:13
SPEAKER_01: And then everything just kind of automatically was online.
12:16
SPEAKER_01: So I kind of like missed that whole part of.
12:18
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I used to teach breath work, obviously, in person and all of that.
12:22
SPEAKER_01: But you know, as far as like the online space, I feel like that's something that kind of really blew up, obviously, in 2020.
12:29
SPEAKER_01: But it's interesting, like, you know, to hear about it happening before that.
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SPEAKER_01: And just you kind of getting those breadcrumbs of, oh, I should do this.
12:39
SPEAKER_01: Like so it just kind of took off.
12:42
SPEAKER_01: So you built a digital program.
12:44
SPEAKER_01: And was that about coaching?
12:45
SPEAKER_01: Or what was that digital program about?
12:47
SPEAKER_00: No, that program was actually called Create Your Life on Purpose.
12:50
SPEAKER_00: And it was it was a program to help you find your calling and your purpose.
12:55
SPEAKER_00: So it's a it's a program if you're like like I was like totally lost and days and confused for so long.
13:02
SPEAKER_00: It's not true, like all of that.
13:04
SPEAKER_00: I was like, wow, I wanted to create a program to help people kind of get to the other side of that and like really find what their purpose is and their mission in a really powerful way.
13:13
SPEAKER_00: I still have that program, but it's not, it's like what ended up happening was I was doing manifestation spiritual life coaching for like a few years, a couple of years, and then it turned into business coaching because it kind of scaled quickly and people were like, How are you building your business?
13:28
SPEAKER_00: And then I was scared, but I transitioned into more of like manifestation business coaching.
13:33
SPEAKER_00: And what I noticed was that there was a huge gap in the online space where everyone and their mom was talking about how to build a business.
13:41
SPEAKER_00: And I was always super passionate about the craft of facilitation, the craft of coaching.
13:47
SPEAKER_00: Like I would watch it in my yoga training, like how the facilitator would take someone from so stuck to free.
13:56
SPEAKER_00: And I was obsessed with just helping people, like understanding how the mechanics behind that and the strategies behind that.
14:04
SPEAKER_00: And I was very well trained as a coach and I realized that so many people in the online space are not.
14:11
SPEAKER_00: Not that you have to be trained, but I do feel like this industry is blowing up so much that you have to be fucking amazing at what you do.
14:18
SPEAKER_00: You have to be.
14:19
SPEAKER_00: You have to know how to create transformation.
14:21
SPEAKER_00: So I saw a big gap and I was like, I'm gonna fill it.
14:24
SPEAKER_00: And it was crazy because I was at my friend's mastermind event in New York, just helping her run it.
14:30
SPEAKER_00: And she asked me to speak for one of the days, and it was small.
14:34
SPEAKER_00: There were seven coaches, seven people there.
14:36
SPEAKER_00: And she's like, What do you want to talk about?
14:38
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, I have no idea.
14:39
SPEAKER_00: She's like, money manifestation, this like all manifestation stuff.
14:42
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, honestly, I would love to teach them like how to coach.
14:46
SPEAKER_00: And so that night we just came up with this framework and this method, and that was this very beginning.
14:51
SPEAKER_00: I taught it on the fly at her training the next day.
14:54
SPEAKER_00: From that event, two out of the seven people hired me privately to teach them how to coach and like take them through the whole method.
15:01
SPEAKER_00: And that was like the beta, beta, beta round of the quantum coaching academy, which is now so like in a year it went from beta, beta, beta to internationally accredited scale into almost a million dollar business.
15:13
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
15:13
SPEAKER_01: So I okay, so I have a couple of questions.
15:15
SPEAKER_01: One, I just want to go back to because I think this will be like interesting for people.
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SPEAKER_01: So when you said before about like you just could manifest free drinks at the bar or whatever, so like how did you take that ability and kind of translate it into like creating what you created and also breaking it down as far as like how do you do that?
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SPEAKER_01: Or how did you, do you know what I mean?
15:37
SPEAKER_01: Like take it from that until how you teach people to manifest or how you actually do it.
15:42
SPEAKER_00: So what I realized is that I wasn't asking for help in the areas that I needed it the most.
15:48
SPEAKER_00: So that was like the biggest awareness that I had was like, I was asking for the guidance of like manifesting free things or like free drinks or parking spots or like someone buying me coffee or like the little things that you know you hear about that are fun and cool and exciting.
16:02
SPEAKER_00: And I wasn't tapping into that with my purpose.
16:06
SPEAKER_00: So I wasn't actively feeling into the feelings of what it would feel like to already have my life figured out in that way of like knowing why I'm on this planet.
16:15
SPEAKER_01: Right.
16:15
SPEAKER_00: I think a lot of us have that feeling of I know I'm here for more.
16:18
SPEAKER_00: I definitely felt that way.
16:20
SPEAKER_00: And so what I started doing was asking the universe to show me.
16:24
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, please show me the way.
16:26
SPEAKER_00: And that's very different than what's in the my course, but that's what I started to do was I was like, please show me the way.
16:32
SPEAKER_00: Cause I feel like people that got to the course of accessing their purpose, they had already been asking those questions because then they found the program.
16:39
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
16:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
16:41
SPEAKER_00: So I was very like in this state of surrender, like, please, God, universe, angels, I'm ready.
16:47
SPEAKER_00: I would go to the beach and I would scream.
16:48
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm ready, I'm ready.
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SPEAKER_00: Like, show me what I'm supposed to do.
16:52
SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm ready.
16:54
SPEAKER_00: And so I started asking for it.
16:56
SPEAKER_00: And then I was open to those like breadcrumbs that started coming in and trusting that that was the way that I was supposed to go, even if it made no sense at all.
17:04
SPEAKER_00: Like quitting my real estate job made no sense to then work at my yoga studio financially.
17:09
SPEAKER_00: Right.
17:09
SPEAKER_00: It made sense energetically.
17:11
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
17:12
SPEAKER_01: So then what was that like in a year to go from like just bringing that out of thin air, like you're the coach teaching people how to coach, and then like it growing that much.
17:24
SPEAKER_01: What was that like and how did that happen?
17:26
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
17:27
SPEAKER_00: So there's like time that has gone by there, right?
17:30
SPEAKER_00: So, like from the time that I like had that epiphany of like help me find my purpose to the time I found life coaching, to the time I started coaching people and putting it out there and all the things.
17:39
SPEAKER_00: This is like a a couple years of coaching and then business coaching, and then the idea for the coaching certification.
17:46
SPEAKER_00: So, in those few years, I gained a ton of confidence in my ability to create that transformation for people because I knew that I was an amazing coach and I knew that I could, I was intuitive, like all the things.
17:56
SPEAKER_00: Like I was solid in my skills and my craft.
18:00
SPEAKER_00: And so by the time that this idea came, I had the foundation of like knowing how to build a business and know like I had a team, I had everything in place that I needed to be able to take it to where it is.
18:12
SPEAKER_00: Like if I had gotten that idea at the very beginning, it would not have scaled the way that it did.
18:18
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
18:19
SPEAKER_01: Does that make sense?
18:20
SPEAKER_01: Totally.
18:20
SPEAKER_01: I just want to interject because I think that's super important because I always say to people, like, you don't know everything like at the beginning.
18:28
SPEAKER_01: Like you just have to take the first step.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
18:31
SPEAKER_01: Like you just have, and then the next thing comes in, and then the next thing comes in, you know?
18:36
SPEAKER_00: Right.
18:36
SPEAKER_00: So it all kind of feels when I look at it like, oh my God, look what we created in a year.
18:41
SPEAKER_00: It's like it takes me aback.
18:43
SPEAKER_00: Like it's like, whoa.
18:44
SPEAKER_00: And every step of the journey, from like even just writing out the first week of content in the program, and then the second week, and then the third week, each each step was like the next logical step.
18:56
SPEAKER_00: So it doesn't feel, oh my God, this happened overnight because it didn't.
19:02
SPEAKER_00: And it kind of could look that way from an outsider, right?
19:06
SPEAKER_00: Totally.
19:07
SPEAKER_01: No, I totally make sense.
19:09
SPEAKER_01: I feel the same way because when I look back at like 2021, I'm like, holy shit, I quantum leaped and I created a so much, it felt like a natural progression.
19:20
SPEAKER_01: It just happened really quickly.
19:22
SPEAKER_00: So I always say that if you are a lottery winner, right?
19:26
SPEAKER_00: Your dreams can come like you can like manif you're manifesting like a different life, basically, or whatever.
19:33
SPEAKER_00: But I always say that like your dreams are coming true right now.
19:37
SPEAKER_00: So by the time that you get to that place that you think is like the dream, but it's happening now.
19:43
SPEAKER_00: It's happening in this moment and then the next moment and then the next moment.
19:46
SPEAKER_00: And then you look back and you're like, whoa, I like I just did it.
19:50
SPEAKER_00: But really, the journey is the destination to the dream.
19:54
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
19:55
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
19:56
SPEAKER_01: So when it comes to like the speed, right?
19:59
SPEAKER_01: Which I know is like the quantum, right?
20:02
SPEAKER_01: Like, so how did you start to incorporate that into it?
20:06
SPEAKER_01: Like, where does that play into all of this?
20:09
SPEAKER_01: Like how you started, like when you actually were like, okay, I'm the quantum coach, I work in the quantum field.
20:15
SPEAKER_01: Like how did that all come in for you?
20:17
SPEAKER_01: And like when did you start incorporating that?
20:19
SPEAKER_00: Okay.
20:20
SPEAKER_00: So when after I decided that I'm going to take on this beast of a coaching certification, because it's it's like a beast, like people don't realize what goes into any program, especially a certification.
20:33
SPEAKER_00: There's so much, and I knew it was going to be a huge undertaking, and I was ready for it.
20:37
SPEAKER_00: And so when I was thinking about the names for the program, it just was like Quantum Coaching Academy, like this is what it's called.
20:42
SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, okay, I was still very attached to being before I was the quantum coach, I was Manifest with Ash.
20:50
SPEAKER_00: That was my name, Manifest with Ash.
20:53
SPEAKER_00: I feel like people will just call me that all the time.
20:56
SPEAKER_00: Like that was like my identity.
20:58
SPEAKER_00: But when I made that, I was like, this is gonna change one day, but this is what it is now.
21:02
SPEAKER_00: And it lasted for a long time.
21:04
SPEAKER_00: My website was manifestwithash.com.
21:06
SPEAKER_00: My podcast is still badass manifest or podcast.
21:10
SPEAKER_00: So I was still very attached to that identity because it was safe and it was working.
21:15
SPEAKER_00: And the day that I changed my Instagram name, that time that I was like, I'm the quantum.coach, that's when I feel like everything started to like it just like quantum leap.
21:27
SPEAKER_00: So it started to quantum leap.
21:28
SPEAKER_00: It it was everyone was like, this just makes sense.
21:30
SPEAKER_00: And it and it was just like, oh, okay, you're the quantum coach.
21:33
SPEAKER_00: And I teach in my program to my coaches that being in the quantum field, and I think we talked about this on your episode too, like it's the small shifts.
21:42
SPEAKER_00: So it's those small shifts, like changing your Instagram name, it's really it's a small thing, right?
21:46
SPEAKER_00: It's a small shift, but it's the small little tiny quantum shifts that make the quantum leaps happen.
21:53
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
21:53
SPEAKER_00: So the speed was I don't know.
21:56
SPEAKER_00: I don't even know what to say about it.
22:00
SPEAKER_01: Well, no, I get it.
22:01
SPEAKER_01: I feel like it's this because this has happened for me too, where it's like this realization of like what you already are doing, but you're just like naming it.
22:09
SPEAKER_01: That's what happened to me with the Akashic Records.
22:12
SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh, I've been doing this my whole life, but now I like have a name for it, which is I'm working the Akashic Records.
22:18
SPEAKER_01: So it's like you're already doing it.
22:20
SPEAKER_01: It's like you just kind of are claiming it and realizing it and being like, this is what I'm doing.
22:25
SPEAKER_00: 100%.
22:26
SPEAKER_00: I love that.
22:27
SPEAKER_00: It's like, yeah, it's shifting into that identity.
22:30
SPEAKER_01: Right.
22:31
SPEAKER_01: And really like owning it and yeah, owning it.
22:34
SPEAKER_01: So I guess I would love to know too, what came up for you along the way?
22:39
SPEAKER_01: What were the biggest roadblocks or challenges you hit that you had to move through?
22:44
SPEAKER_00: That's a good question.
22:45
SPEAKER_00: So many.
22:48
SPEAKER_00: So many.
22:49
SPEAKER_00: I can kind of break it down from like different parts of the journey.
22:52
SPEAKER_00: So in the beginning of the journey, of like you're listening and you are thinking that you might want to be a coach, right?
22:58
SPEAKER_00: There's that, or might want to be in the healing space or in this space that we're in, right?
23:03
SPEAKER_00: There's that feeling that I had when I first had that inkling that was like, who are you to do that?
23:09
SPEAKER_00: Who are you to go on social media and talk?
23:11
SPEAKER_00: Who are you to have a podcast?
23:12
SPEAKER_00: Who wants to hear what you have to say?
23:14
SPEAKER_00: And so I had to really in the beginning get over this fear of being seen.
23:19
SPEAKER_00: I was so fucking terrified of what other people would think of me, beyond, so incredibly scared.
23:24
SPEAKER_00: I remember my first live video I did ever.
23:27
SPEAKER_00: It's in my Facebook group still.
23:29
SPEAKER_00: It's all the all the way at the bottom.
23:31
SPEAKER_00: And my mom was on there and I was pulling a card and I said, like, and I said um and I said mm.
23:38
SPEAKER_00: I said all these, you know, filler words.
23:40
SPEAKER_00: And my mom texted me after, and I was so nervous, so nervous.
23:44
SPEAKER_00: And she texted me after and she was like, You should take that down.
23:47
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, why?
23:48
SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: I know, I know.
23:50
SPEAKER_00: She's my biggest critic for sure and my biggest cheerleader.
23:54
SPEAKER_00: She's like, You should take it down.
23:55
SPEAKER_00: It's just not a good representation of who you are.
23:57
SPEAKER_00: It's unprofessional.
23:58
SPEAKER_00: Like, you know, you should take it down.
23:59
SPEAKER_00: And I said, Mom, you know, that was a really big deal for me.
24:03
SPEAKER_00: And I'm gonna leave it up.
24:04
SPEAKER_00: And I do feel like that was a shift moment, quantum shift moment, because I decided to be true to myself and not listen to the doubt that was coming up and being reflected through her.
24:15
SPEAKER_00: And I always say that our own doubt usually comes up and out through the people that reflect it to us.
24:21
SPEAKER_00: So my mom was reflecting that doubt that I had of just the fear, the fear of if it was good enough, basically.
24:28
SPEAKER_00: So I left it up and I'm glad that I did.
24:31
SPEAKER_00: So that was a huge thing, being seen.
24:32
SPEAKER_00: Did you have that?
24:33
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
24:34
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
24:34
SPEAKER_01: I remember, you know, because I was a school counselor for so long.
24:38
SPEAKER_01: And, you know, at I worked at the same school for like seven years and one of the main places I worked, and I was really close to everyone there, and everyone knew me there, but like no one really knew.
24:49
SPEAKER_01: Like they knew I was spiritual and they knew I was like different, but they didn't really know what I was really about.
24:55
SPEAKER_01: And for some reason, like those people like seeing that side of me, and then also certain family members, I was just like, oh my God, people are gonna think I'm fucking crazy.
25:06
SPEAKER_01: And I was very, very afraid of that.
25:09
SPEAKER_01: And I think it comes up for everyone, you know.
25:11
SPEAKER_01: So, like, I know it's just like you have to push through it, but what helped you with that?
25:16
SPEAKER_00: One of the biggest things that helped me with that was always journaling what will happen if I don't do this, and what will happen if I do.
25:24
SPEAKER_00: And it was always about if I don't do this, and I'm not gonna be helping people.
25:28
SPEAKER_00: And I knew that that was what I was here to do.
25:30
SPEAKER_00: And so if I don't do this, I'm just making it about me.
25:33
SPEAKER_00: And it really wasn't about me.
25:35
SPEAKER_00: So I needed to stop making it about me.
25:37
SPEAKER_00: And that was that was the thing that pushed me to keep showing up.
25:41
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
25:42
SPEAKER_01: And I know for me, I always say, you know, I started working with a coach like right away, like before I even started my business, because I just knew that I was supposed to be doing something else, but I wasn't sure exactly what it was.
25:53
SPEAKER_01: And then when I first started my business, like she would tell me to do stuff.
25:57
SPEAKER_01: And I remember when she would tell me, like, you know, to go on live or to say this or to say that or to post this or to post that.
26:03
SPEAKER_01: And I remember thinking, like, she would tell me, and in my head, I'm like, there's no fucking way I'm doing that.
26:08
SPEAKER_01: And then I would like get off of the box or whatever, and I'd be like, what the fuck?
26:12
SPEAKER_01: I just paid her a shit ton of money.
26:14
SPEAKER_01: Like, I'm gonna fucking do this, even though I'm really fucking scared.
26:19
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
26:20
SPEAKER_00: So actually that's a great point because having that energetic exchange of investing in a coach to hold you accountable.
26:27
SPEAKER_00: I mean, that is one of the beautiful things about having a support, is like having that accountability because I bet you that works for you.
26:34
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, a hundred percent.
26:35
SPEAKER_01: And like I think, I think that's kind of the mistake that some people make when they are starting out is like, oh, well, I'll just wait till I make money in order to invest in myself.
26:46
SPEAKER_01: And I just think that's such a mistake because if I didn't have that in the beginning, there's no way I would have been able to step forward in the way that I did.
26:56
SPEAKER_00: I will say that I wasn't like that, but I was the type of person in the beginning where I was like, I'm gonna figure this out on my own.
27:03
SPEAKER_00: I was like the DIY person of my business.
27:06
SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I'm gonna figure this out.
27:07
SPEAKER_00: I would stay up so late trying to figure out how to integrate a PayPal link with this or that.
27:13
SPEAKER_00: Like I was just like so committed to like doing it on my own.
27:17
SPEAKER_00: And I didn't hire a business coach for so long.
27:19
SPEAKER_00: And I I don't want to say I regret that because I my human design is like very trial and error, but I wish that I would have hired a coach sooner because I would have been able to like grow fast way faster.
27:32
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think for me, just because you know, coming from being a school counselor for 10 years and having no business experience, I really was just like, I just want someone to tell me how to do this because I don't know about the online space.
27:46
SPEAKER_01: I don't know anything about like I never had my own business, I knew nothing.
27:50
SPEAKER_01: And I was just like, I felt like I needed that, you know, just someone, yeah, that help and that like guidance because to me it was just like this whole new world.
28:01
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
28:01
SPEAKER_01: I like, I don't think I could have tried to DIY it at all.
28:05
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know, I know.
28:07
SPEAKER_00: It's so funny because I actually have this like memory years prior to like realizing this is what I was meant to do, of this like sales page popping up.
28:17
SPEAKER_00: You know, you're online, things pop up, and it I didn't know it was a sales page at the time, but it was this guy, and he was talking about you can monetize anything, you can, you know, you can have your own business.
28:27
SPEAKER_00: If you're passionate about a certain topic, you can monetize it.
28:31
SPEAKER_00: And I'm listening to his spiel and I'm like trying to understand what he's saying, and I'm just scrolling and scrolling down this never-ending page, and I'm like, where is this page taking me to?
28:40
SPEAKER_00: Like, and then I and then I remember like putting my email in, and there was another page, and I'm scrolling and scrolling and scrolling.
28:47
SPEAKER_00: I'm lost in all these pages that I didn't know that they're like opt-in pages, sales pages, all that.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: Right.
28:52
SPEAKER_00: But I remember thinking to myself, if I have to do all this, this is too much.
29:02
SPEAKER_01: So yeah, so being seen, obviously, I think that's a huge thing that we all kind of go through.
29:06
SPEAKER_01: And then, like, once you got over that, what was the other kind of because I know stuff comes up for us all the time, but like, what do you feel like were some of your other biggest challenges that you had to move through?
29:17
SPEAKER_00: Yes, one of them was figuring out how to price my offerings.
29:23
SPEAKER_00: Um, I love this topic.
29:25
SPEAKER_00: Okay, let's go into that.
29:26
SPEAKER_00: That was really hard.
29:27
SPEAKER_00: Um, so I know a lot of people are like focused on building their audiences and communities, and off the bat, I never had that challenge just because I had a huge yoga community, I had an in-person community.
29:39
SPEAKER_00: So all these people followed me online.
29:40
SPEAKER_00: They all showed up for my free events online, and they would book discovery calls with me.
29:45
SPEAKER_00: And it was very flattering.
29:47
SPEAKER_00: Like I was also teaching yoga, so they knew me from that and they trusted me already.
29:52
SPEAKER_00: So I never had that like initial like, how am I gonna get my first client feeling?
29:57
SPEAKER_00: But what happened was they would book their calls with me, they would come into my office, and that 30 minutes would turn into two hours, and then they would leave and I'd be like, All right, well, let me know if you ever want to connect again.
30:09
SPEAKER_00: Like, I would never tell them a price.
30:12
SPEAKER_00: I would give them so much free coaching, and that was it.
30:17
SPEAKER_00: So it was just really, really hard for me to get that out initially because I was I just had no idea how to value coaching and time.
30:26
SPEAKER_00: I had a poor relationship with money.
30:27
SPEAKER_00: So that's kind of what it taught me was like, oh, you need to work on your relationship with money because I I had never looked at my relationship with money.
30:35
SPEAKER_01: Right.
30:35
SPEAKER_00: What came up for you?
30:36
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
30:38
SPEAKER_01: Well, it first of all, just taking money for what I was doing, you know, because I feel like, and this is something I think a lot of people can relate to, and I'm sure you can too.
30:47
SPEAKER_01: Essentially, like what you started to do and what I started to do for money is essentially what we've been doing our whole lives.
30:54
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Right.
30:55
SPEAKER_01: Like I've always been the person that's like helping everyone.
30:59
SPEAKER_01: So to then take like not only money, but like large amounts of money.
31:05
SPEAKER_01: Right.
31:06
SPEAKER_01: Because like even as a school counselor, like I didn't make anything.
31:09
SPEAKER_01: Like I made very little money as a school counselor.
31:11
SPEAKER_01: I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it was kind of terrible now that I'm looking back on it.
31:16
SPEAKER_00: Now that you probably make what you made then in a month now.
31:19
SPEAKER_01: I do.
31:20
SPEAKER_01: Like, yeah.
31:24
SPEAKER_01: So I think for me, just actually feeling comfortable to take that money.
31:29
SPEAKER_01: And then also, you know, this is something I see come up for a lot of my clients too, is like it's kind of this idea of making money just for being you.
31:38
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
31:39
SPEAKER_01: And we feel really uncomfortable with that.
31:41
SPEAKER_01: Cause I think we have this unconscious programming that we have to do something we don't like for money, that we have to like suffer in order to make money.
31:51
SPEAKER_01: And I think a lot of people have resistance around just allow being an allowance of money coming to them just for their energy, just for simply being them.
32:02
SPEAKER_01: And I think that was something that was really hard for me.
32:06
SPEAKER_01: I know for me, I struggled with feeling comfortable to hold more space for people and for people to pay me larger amounts of money because I felt like there's all these things that come up, right?
32:18
SPEAKER_01: Like you feel guilty or you feel like you shouldn't be charging for this.
32:21
SPEAKER_01: And it's all this like crazy programming that um for me, I had to, you know, move through a lot of that.
32:29
SPEAKER_00: I absolutely love what you just shared.
32:31
SPEAKER_00: Like we are programmed to like receive money for something that's gonna be hard or feel hard, or like something that we don't want to do, or something we have to do.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
32:40
SPEAKER_00: That is like super powerful.
32:42
SPEAKER_00: I really like that.
32:43
SPEAKER_00: I do think that the world is changing in that way.
32:47
SPEAKER_00: Like we're changing it.
32:48
SPEAKER_00: We're changing it.
32:49
SPEAKER_00: And it's more of like, why wouldn't it be this way?
32:52
SPEAKER_00: Why would like it just makes sense for us to be this way?
32:57
SPEAKER_00: And the what happened for me was I was coaching for free initially in the beginning.
33:01
SPEAKER_00: And the first time I got paid, this one client, after a few sessions, handed me$65.
33:07
SPEAKER_00: And she was like, This is for you.
33:09
SPEAKER_00: You're changing my life.
33:10
SPEAKER_00: And I was like, No, no, no, no, no, I can't accept this.
33:12
SPEAKER_00: And I was like pushing it back, and she's like, No.
33:15
SPEAKER_00: And she like squeezed it and like put it in my you know pocket or whatever.
33:18
SPEAKER_00: It was a big moment.
33:19
SPEAKER_00: And I took a picture and I sent it to my husband, and I was like, I just got paid for coaching.
33:23
SPEAKER_00: And so after that, I realized that, well, it was a journey of realizing, but I realized that I didn't have to charge like a crazy amount in the beginning.
33:32
SPEAKER_00: For me, I had to charge what I could get behind.
33:34
SPEAKER_00: And I call this to my clients too, like to my coaches in QCA, like there's no standard of pricing in the industry.
33:41
SPEAKER_00: There's no standard.
33:42
SPEAKER_00: So we do this little meditation and we we feel into different numbers and we feel into what you can get behind right now.
33:50
SPEAKER_00: Because listen, in the beginning it was like 85 an hour, and then it was a hundred, and then it was 115, and then it was 125, and then it was 175, and then it was two, and it just kept going up and up and up.
34:02
SPEAKER_00: And for me, incrementally, that felt right.
34:05
SPEAKER_00: And that's not for everybody.
34:07
SPEAKER_00: Like there's some people that start coaching and they're like, I'm gonna make, you know, 20,000 a month, like whatever.
34:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, you know, one on whatever.
34:14
SPEAKER_00: So it's everyone's different, but think about what you can get behind.
34:17
SPEAKER_01: I love that because I feel like it does have to be aligned with your energy or you're not gonna sell it anyway.
34:24
SPEAKER_01: And I tell people too that you want it to feel a little stretchy for you, right?
34:29
SPEAKER_01: Like you want it to feel like you're 80% behind it, and 20% of you is kind of like, ooh, you know, so I love that.
34:37
SPEAKER_01: Because also then, if it's not like that, then I feel like very quickly you're gonna grow out of that.
34:44
SPEAKER_01: It's almost like for like my kids, I like want to buy them the bigger size so they can grow into it.
34:49
SPEAKER_01: It's like kind of like that.
34:50
SPEAKER_01: So I always tell people that too, because you want to stretch yourself and you want to grow.
34:55
SPEAKER_01: And then the other thing too, I always say is like the money is a reflection of the impact of the growth that someone's gonna have too.
35:03
SPEAKER_01: So, like, if someone's gonna show up and spend$500 for an hour versus$100 for an hour, if they're paying$500, they know they're gonna get like a big transformation.
35:15
SPEAKER_00: Absolutely agree with that.
35:16
SPEAKER_00: Love that, the 20% rule.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
35:19
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
35:20
SPEAKER_01: So, and I think it's good that we're talking about this because I think so many people struggle with this of like where, where to start, where to price.
35:29
SPEAKER_01: So, like, what do you you just basically tell people like whatever you can get behind.
35:33
SPEAKER_00: And the reason is is like if I was to tell all of my QCA students, because it the question comes up, what do we charge?
35:39
SPEAKER_00: You know, where do we start?
35:40
SPEAKER_00: I will say I believe the industry standard is at least$100 an hour.
35:45
SPEAKER_00: I do believe that.
35:46
SPEAKER_00: I've seen that across the board, like minimum, I would say.
35:50
SPEAKER_00: But if I tell you, hey, you're a brand new, I think you should start at$100 an hour and you have resistance to that, it's just not gonna work.
35:59
SPEAKER_00: You're not gonna call it in.
36:01
SPEAKER_00: So again, I don't like to tell the students what to charge because it's all about what they feel they can get behind.
36:08
SPEAKER_00: And some people might say, you know what, I can really get behind 50.
36:11
SPEAKER_00: The point is like, go out there, coach people, get paid, whatever it is, like there's an exchange.
36:17
SPEAKER_00: And then guess what?
36:18
SPEAKER_00: Supply and demand.
36:19
SPEAKER_00: When you have, when you're maxed out of clients and you have 50, you're charging$50 an hour for your coaching, you're gonna learn really quickly to raise your price.
36:26
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, 100%.
36:28
SPEAKER_01: So, like, I love that you're talking about too like the craft and and your craft of coaching.
36:34
SPEAKER_01: And like, what would you say are like some of you know, just what that means to you, or like the pillars of that, or what are the important points for you and your method?
36:44
SPEAKER_00: So we talked about big coach energy.
36:47
SPEAKER_00: Big coach energy is like our slogan, and big coach energy means humbly being the most confident coach in the room.
36:53
SPEAKER_00: That's what magnetizes people to you.
36:56
SPEAKER_00: And I believe that the number one way to be a six and seven-figure entrepreneur coach is to know how to create quantum transformations over and over and over again.
37:06
SPEAKER_00: So, like I didn't have any marketing plans in the beginning of my business, but I knew how to coach powerfully.
37:11
SPEAKER_00: So I was getting results with my clients, and those results start to speak for themselves.
37:16
SPEAKER_00: So being really good at your craft means that your results start to speak for yourselves, and then your results will do the marketing for you.
37:23
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like that's the most powerful marketing strategy that anybody could lead with because those don't lie, right?
37:30
SPEAKER_00: Those are so honest.
37:31
SPEAKER_00: That's what's real, that's the end result.
37:33
SPEAKER_00: So there's that piece of it.
37:34
SPEAKER_00: And some of the pillars that are part of our method.
37:38
SPEAKER_00: So let me start with a few things that you could start to avoid in your coaching that could make you an even more powerful coach.
37:46
SPEAKER_00: One, avoid giving advice, first and foremost.
37:49
SPEAKER_00: Like, no advice giving.
37:50
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like so many people think coaching is advice giving.
37:53
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God, yes.
37:55
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
37:56
SPEAKER_00: And like if a client is sharing a personal story with you or they're sharing an emotional thing, and then you just say, Oh my God, I actually had that same thing happen to me.
38:05
SPEAKER_00: And when I did it, this is what happened.
38:06
SPEAKER_00: And da-da-da.
38:07
SPEAKER_00: It's extremely invalidating for the client.
38:10
SPEAKER_00: So, first and foremost, like if you can eliminate advice giving, there is a time and place for it.
38:14
SPEAKER_00: If it feels super relevant, but you have to ask yourself, is this story that I want to tell in service to me or is it in service to the client?
38:25
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
38:26
SPEAKER_00: That's so important.
38:27
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
38:28
SPEAKER_00: There are times where I feel like it would serve the client, and I'll say I have a personal story that I feel like is really relevant that could help you.
38:36
SPEAKER_00: Are you open to hearing it?
38:37
SPEAKER_00: So asking for permission is like always very trauma-informed as well.
38:42
SPEAKER_00: Um, so stop advice giving.
38:44
SPEAKER_00: Number two thing that could make your coaching better is to you might be a filler, right?
38:51
SPEAKER_00: So maybe you are filling the space as the coach and not leaving the space for the client.
38:56
SPEAKER_00: And so if you ask like a really empowering question and there's a lot of space or a big emotion comes up for the client, and you're just holding the space, that is a craft, right?
39:07
SPEAKER_00: Like not feeling like you need to put words in there, not feeling like you need to say anything, but to just be with the client in their process is so powerful.
39:18
SPEAKER_00: And I think space and silence scare a lot of people.
39:21
SPEAKER_01: Yes.
39:22
SPEAKER_00: Something to lean into as a coach.
39:24
SPEAKER_00: Even if you're not a coach listening to this, if you're a human, try this on more.
39:29
SPEAKER_00: Like all these skills, all these tools that I'm speaking of are things to lean into in any area of life, really, like with people in general, to stop advice giving, to listen more, to ask more powerful questions.
39:42
SPEAKER_00: Something else to avoid in your coaching could be if you are like a fixer or someone, you want to um jump to the action steps before you even know like what the whole picture is.
39:54
SPEAKER_00: So if someone comes in with a problem in their session or something that's really challenging to them, and you're like, okay, well, what are we gonna do about it?
40:00
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
40:01
SPEAKER_00: What actions are we gonna take?
40:02
SPEAKER_00: What's our goal?
40:03
SPEAKER_00: You know, like how are we gonna like do the thing?
40:05
SPEAKER_00: But there's a lot of emotions to process.
40:07
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
40:08
SPEAKER_00: So um, those are just a few things.
40:09
SPEAKER_00: Let me think if there's another one.
40:11
SPEAKER_01: It's funny that you're with everything you're saying, it's just it's hitting home for me in so many ways.
40:16
SPEAKER_01: One, just reflecting on like my time as a school counselor.
40:20
SPEAKER_01: And let me just tell you like, if I would have learned any one of those things in my getting a master's degree in counseling psychology, how much that would have helped me.
40:31
SPEAKER_01: Because and it's like, really, someone with a master's degree like doesn't learn any of that.
40:36
SPEAKER_01: Like, what the fuck are we doing?
40:38
SPEAKER_01: Because I remember when I my first year as a school counselor, I thought I needed to do all of those things.
40:44
SPEAKER_01: Like, I thought like the opposite of what you're saying, right?
40:46
SPEAKER_01: I thought I needed to give advice.
40:49
SPEAKER_01: I thought I needed to fix the problem.
40:51
SPEAKER_01: And believe me, I still have a hard time with silence.
40:54
SPEAKER_01: So um, that's a really hard thing.
40:57
SPEAKER_01: But I remember as I started to like get better at my job and perfect what I was doing, I started to realize that especially kids, like they really don't need you to do anything other than just be present with them and actually just listen and be present.
41:14
SPEAKER_01: Like, because they don't have anybody, most of them didn't have anybody who was doing that.
41:18
SPEAKER_01: So, like I learned that myself over time, right?
41:21
SPEAKER_01: That it's like, I just have to be present.
41:23
SPEAKER_00: And honestly, not just kids, that's for everyone.
41:26
SPEAKER_00: Like, that is for coaching.
41:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that is for holding space for anyone.
41:30
SPEAKER_00: What are the two things that people want the most?
41:32
SPEAKER_00: They just want to be seen and heard.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: A hundred percent.
41:34
SPEAKER_01: And I realize that too, like with Voxer, too, because like I'll have a lot of my clients who I like my one-on-one clients who we have Voxer, like I'll hear the like, I just feel like they just need to talk to me on the Voxer.
41:45
SPEAKER_01: Like, it doesn't even matter if I say anything back, but like I'll hear them working it all out themselves just through talking on Voxer.
41:54
SPEAKER_00: 100%.
41:55
SPEAKER_00: I actually had a client once who booked a whole VIP breakthrough day with me.
42:00
SPEAKER_00: I had a discovery call with her, but that was it.
42:02
SPEAKER_00: That was the only time I met her.
42:04
SPEAKER_00: She had never had someone just listen to her ever.
42:07
SPEAKER_00: Wow.
42:08
SPEAKER_00: So her being able to just get out her story was so life-changing for her.
42:15
SPEAKER_00: So we have to remember that as people and as coaches and healers and working with people, listening is a skill that we work on in QCA that is like really it's underrated.
42:26
SPEAKER_00: It's really underrated in life.
42:28
SPEAKER_00: Because listening is so important.
42:30
SPEAKER_00: And there's different ways to listen.
42:32
SPEAKER_00: You're either listening and you're trying to think of something to say to someone because you're listening from your subjective experience, or you're listening, being objective, right?
42:42
SPEAKER_00: Like really hearing every single word someone's saying, being, like you said, in the total present moment, there's a difference.
42:47
SPEAKER_00: And then there's heart listening and there's intuitive listening, and then sensory acuity listening we teach, which is like being able to sense someone's cues with their facial expressions and when their the color in their face changes or their lips change, or like something in their physical body changes.
43:00
SPEAKER_00: So there's so many ways to listen.
43:02
SPEAKER_00: So many.
43:03
SPEAKER_01: Wow.
43:03
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's so powerful.
43:05
SPEAKER_01: And like it's so funny because you know, just also reflecting on what kids learn in school, right?
43:11
SPEAKER_01: And all the time I spent in school.
43:13
SPEAKER_01: And it's like they're telling you like you have to listen to the teacher, but the way that they tell it is like, it's more like listening in the sense of like following orders, right?
43:23
SPEAKER_01: Instead of like actually.
43:24
SPEAKER_01: So I think as adults, that's kind of how we subliminally, like from an underlying subconscious perspective, think about listening.
43:33
SPEAKER_01: It's not about actually absorbing or being present or connecting.
43:39
SPEAKER_01: Kids would think, like, oh, if you listen to the teacher, you have to do what the teacher says.
43:43
SPEAKER_01: So it's a completely different paradigm and something we don't learn.
43:48
SPEAKER_00: Well, that's mind blowing.
43:49
SPEAKER_00: It's so true.
43:50
SPEAKER_00: We really don't.
43:52
SPEAKER_01: Do you feel like with all of this stuff, it just kind of evolved for you as you started doing it?
43:58
SPEAKER_01: Like, kind of, you know, the stuff that you're just Sharing about, or do you feel like it was you just knew it?
44:02
SPEAKER_01: Because I know we talked a little before on like our other conversation about like the Clares and the different ways that you like get information.
44:08
SPEAKER_01: So do you feel like it was given to you or channeled to you or it evolved through what you did, or both?
44:15
SPEAKER_00: Do you mean the content that I'm sharing right now?
44:17
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
44:18
SPEAKER_00: I would say it's both.
44:20
SPEAKER_00: I definitely feel like I picked up a lot from different trainings that I've been in and kind of like put my own understanding to it of like nobody said it in this way, but it's like, oh, okay, she's going through an emotional experience and the facilitator is just listening, like holding space.
44:36
SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
44:36
SPEAKER_00: She's not jumping in to hug her, to like rescue her, you know.
44:40
SPEAKER_00: And so I started to pick up on these things.
44:44
SPEAKER_00: And then when I was at that mastermind event that night, a lot of downloads came through with my friend who helped me.
44:51
SPEAKER_00: She helped me take all these thoughts and put them into frameworks, which then became like the foundation of the method.
44:59
SPEAKER_01: Right.
45:00
SPEAKER_00: So I would say like the knowing was more like this is what you're meant to do.
45:04
SPEAKER_00: Like that cognizant.
45:05
SPEAKER_00: What is the knowing one?
45:06
SPEAKER_01: Claire cognizance.
45:07
SPEAKER_01: Okay.
45:08
SPEAKER_00: I think so.
45:09
SPEAKER_00: Claire clearance, whatever it is.
45:12
SPEAKER_00: I had this knowing, like, this is what you're gonna do, and this is gonna be massive in the industry, and like you're gonna create massive ripples.
45:20
SPEAKER_00: And that's always been my goal is the ripple effect.
45:23
SPEAKER_00: And so I always also always said, like, I wish I could just be ahead of the curve.
45:27
SPEAKER_00: Like, I just want to be ahead of the curve one time in life.
45:30
SPEAKER_00: Like, and I feel like when I got this download, it was ahead of the curve because more coaching certifications are popping up now, which is amazing.
45:38
SPEAKER_00: But I do feel like we're really established in the industry and we've trained hundreds of coaches at this point.
45:42
SPEAKER_00: So I'm super grateful for that.
45:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's really, really amazing.
45:48
SPEAKER_01: So, like, what is next for you?
45:50
SPEAKER_00: What is next?
45:52
SPEAKER_00: I definitely want to write a book, a coaching book for sure.
45:56
SPEAKER_00: So that's definitely next.
45:57
SPEAKER_00: Um, motherhood is next.
45:59
SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
46:00
SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
46:01
SPEAKER_00: Motherhood is definitely next.
46:03
SPEAKER_00: And I'm just open, you know.
46:04
SPEAKER_00: What I realized is that when I started my business, I really had no idea what it was gonna turn into.
46:11
SPEAKER_00: I knew it was gonna be big and massive and impactful.
46:13
SPEAKER_00: Like I couldn't have planned it as good as it went.
46:16
SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
46:17
SPEAKER_00: So I'm open to the universe kind of showing me the way and following those breadcrumbs as I as I have, you know, to get to this point.
46:25
SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
46:26
SPEAKER_01: For the person who's kind of still trying to figure out, like they know they kind of want to be in this space, but they're not sure, like in the coaching space or the healing space, but they're not sure if they really should, or they're feeling like blocked, or they're feeling like they're afraid to be seen.
46:42
SPEAKER_01: Like, what would you say to that person?
46:44
SPEAKER_00: I would just validate, like, it's totally normal for you to feel that way.
46:48
SPEAKER_00: It's totally understandable to feel like scared or unsure, or you know, that feeling of like, oh, I want to do this, but I'm safe where I am in this job that I have or whatever it is.
46:59
SPEAKER_00: And so I would say take the smallest step possible.
47:03
SPEAKER_00: And if if that means like looking up a coaching program, look up a coaching program.
47:07
SPEAKER_00: If that means reaching out to someone, so what I did was I reached out to someone who I knew was a life coach and I just wanted to learn more about what she did, like reaching out to people that are doing what you're doing and asking them questions.
47:20
SPEAKER_00: I hate the word pick their brain.
47:21
SPEAKER_00: Don't use that word when you call them.
47:23
SPEAKER_00: Don't use that word, they'll be turned off by that.
47:25
SPEAKER_00: But genuinely asking them questions and or asking if they're open to be asked questions about what they do.
47:32
SPEAKER_00: And just take the smallest step in following your curiosity and in your inspiration.
47:39
SPEAKER_00: Because if you follow your curiosity and you follow your inspiration, that will never lead you in the wrong direction.
47:45
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I a hundred percent agree with that.
47:47
SPEAKER_01: I always say something similar to especially people that are just kind of starting out or they know there's more for them, but they're not sure exactly what direction to go in.
47:57
SPEAKER_01: And it's like you have to follow where you're drawn because that's your compass, right?
48:02
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like we're kind of taught to not do that.
48:07
SPEAKER_01: Like it's like, no, that's just like, yeah, we're taught to like just no, just like go with the program, go like get a job and whatever.
48:16
SPEAKER_01: Like that's kind of what we're taught is like safe or normal, and that our curiosity just has to be like for when on Saturdays or something.
48:28
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
48:30
SPEAKER_00: And I think COVID, as shitty and fucked up as it was, excuse my language, I think it did help some people get that clarity.
48:37
SPEAKER_01: Oh, a hundred percent.
48:38
SPEAKER_01: And I feel like there's like waves of it too.
48:40
SPEAKER_01: Like I feel like there was like I was kind of like the first wave of the COVID job quitting thing because for me, I started my business right before it started.
48:50
SPEAKER_01: So I like was already kind of on that path.
48:53
SPEAKER_01: But then when COVID happened, it just kind of gave me the agency to just be like, okay, I'm not once we left in March, we left school for COVID.
49:01
SPEAKER_01: I never went back to school to my job.
49:03
SPEAKER_01: So I feel like I was like the first wave, but I feel like there's more waves of it happening now too, where like the more fucked up shit that happens in the world and the more people wake up, it just keeps happening where more and more people are discovering their purpose and like actually living the lives that they want to live.
49:21
SPEAKER_00: And I'm just getting a download right now of like one other thing of when you ask, like what comes up along the way.
49:27
SPEAKER_00: And I think something else that didn't really come up for me, but I think comes up for a lot of people is if you're listening to this right now and you're like, I missed my wave, like I missed my chance, like the industry is so moving now, you know.
49:39
SPEAKER_00: Actually, if you think it's oversaturated, you couldn't be more wrong.
49:43
SPEAKER_00: You couldn't be more wrong.
49:45
SPEAKER_00: It is just getting started.
49:47
SPEAKER_01: I a hundred percent agree.
49:50
SPEAKER_01: And I also feel like this is something that I'm always shown to is that everybody is here to hold a specific frequency and bring a certain energy.
49:59
SPEAKER_01: And there are specific people out there that are actually need your frequency and your energy to activate them into like their purpose and their energy.
50:09
SPEAKER_01: Just because you think other people are doing it, they're not gonna do it the way you would.
50:13
SPEAKER_00: Thank you for saying that because the way that I say it is similar, but I say like we all have codes for each other, right?
50:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I love that.
50:20
SPEAKER_00: We all have like these codes that we help unlock within each other.
50:24
SPEAKER_00: And we need each other in that way.
50:27
SPEAKER_00: So the people that need your codes are waiting for you to step into this.
50:30
SPEAKER_00: So get out of your own way.
50:32
SPEAKER_00: It's not about you.
50:33
SPEAKER_00: Say yes, dive in, and that's it.
50:35
SPEAKER_00: Like make a decision.
50:36
SPEAKER_00: Let's go.
50:37
SPEAKER_01: Yes, I love that a hundred percent.
50:39
SPEAKER_01: So, what do you?
50:41
SPEAKER_01: I mean, I know you have the quantum coaching academy, but like what is the exciting stuff you have going on right now, and where can people find you?
50:49
SPEAKER_00: Yes.
50:49
SPEAKER_00: So I'm on Instagram at thequantum.coach, and we're always enrolling for the quantum coaching academy.
50:55
SPEAKER_00: There's two cohorts a year.
50:57
SPEAKER_00: So we have one that starts in July and one in January.
51:00
SPEAKER_00: And there's a ton of pre-work that you can get access to, like before you get started.
51:04
SPEAKER_00: So you have months to prepare for it, and then our live calls start.
51:07
SPEAKER_00: So QCA, if you're thinking about jumping in and you want to apply, definitely put Elisa's name on your application that this is where you heard it from.
51:14
SPEAKER_00: So we just know that this is the podcast that you learned about it from.
51:18
SPEAKER_00: And so I have a lot of free events coming up, a lot of like community stuff in the Facebook.
51:24
SPEAKER_00: I always have stuff going on.
51:25
SPEAKER_00: So just Instagram is the place to find it all, or my website is thequantum.coach.
51:31
SPEAKER_01: Cool.
51:31
SPEAKER_01: And we'll link all that in the show notes for everybody.
51:34
SPEAKER_00: Also, listen to Elise's episode on our podcast, too, the Badass Manifestor podcast, because it's an amazing episode.
51:41
SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, I know.
51:42
SPEAKER_01: I'm so excited.
51:42
SPEAKER_01: That was such a fun episode.
51:44
SPEAKER_01: Definitely listen to that.
51:46
SPEAKER_01: Okay, so the last question is for you what do you feel like is a non-negotiable when it comes to fully reclaiming your consciousness?
51:56
SPEAKER_00: That's a hard question.
51:58
SPEAKER_00: There's so many.
52:00
SPEAKER_00: Just taking responsibility for everything that shows up for me.
52:04
SPEAKER_00: I think that's a big one.
52:05
SPEAKER_01: Oh my God.
52:06
SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
52:07
SPEAKER_01: Yes, a hundred percent.
52:08
SPEAKER_01: I'm so glad you brought that up because I feel like that's something we didn't touch on in our chat, but I know we both understand that because you have to when you're when you do this, like you gotta take everything's you, everything's me everywhere.
52:22
SPEAKER_00: And it's interesting because I just had my have you ever had astrogeography read?
52:27
SPEAKER_00: No, not like officially, but I find it so fascinating.
52:31
SPEAKER_00: It was so fascinating.
52:32
SPEAKER_00: And of course, I live on my Chiron line, which is like it's the wounded warrior.
52:39
SPEAKER_00: And so she's like, Whoa, like this.
52:41
SPEAKER_00: Obviously, I know how to navigate it because I I live it, but it's like basically there's a lot of shadow aspects that show up that I'm always like, Oh my god, a lesson, oh my god, a lesson, oh my god, what the fuck's going on?
52:53
SPEAKER_00: So it's just leaning into that and taking responsibility for it.
52:56
SPEAKER_00: And I feel like that is my that's the answer to the question.
53:00
SPEAKER_01: I love that.
53:00
SPEAKER_01: And then I just have to ask, um, what is your astrology?
53:04
SPEAKER_01: Like, what's your sun, moon, and rising?
53:06
SPEAKER_00: I I don't know it off the top of my head, but I'm a Capricorn.
53:10
SPEAKER_01: Oh, okay, cool.
53:12
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think my Aries.
53:14
SPEAKER_01: It's okay.
53:15
SPEAKER_01: I was just curious when you brought up astrology because I'm like obsessed with astrology.
53:19
SPEAKER_01: So are you curious what you are?
53:20
SPEAKER_00: Yeah, what's your human design?
53:22
SPEAKER_00: I am a five-three generator.
53:24
SPEAKER_00: No, three, five, three, five.
53:26
SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
53:27
SPEAKER_00: What are you?
53:28
SPEAKER_01: I'm a one-three manifesting generator.
53:31
SPEAKER_00: Okay, cool.
53:33
SPEAKER_01: I know I love human design too.
53:35
SPEAKER_01: Um, well, I know we could chat forever, but I want to respect your time, but I'm so happy you are here and I'm so happy to like continue.
53:44
SPEAKER_01: Yeah, we'll be chatting on the beach this summer.
53:46
SPEAKER_01: Yes, exactly.
53:48
SPEAKER_01: I'm sure we'll be doing something else again soon.
53:51
SPEAKER_01: So thank you so much for being here.
53:53
SPEAKER_01: Thanks so much for having me.
53:56
SPEAKER_01: Thank you so much for being here.
53:59
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54:06
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54:17
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54:28
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