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The Kenny Conversation - Episode #16 - $1 Million Winner Logan Schuchart! · Kenny Wallace Media

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Hello everyone and welcome back to Kenny Conversation, brought
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Well, we're honored once again quickly becoming one of the best
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in the world of outlaw Sprint car racing.
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Logan Shoe Art Logan, Welcome to Kenny Conversation.
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Thanks for having me buddy. Thanks for thinking of me.
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It's great to be on. Hey, is it right now?
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Are you 25 years old? I'm 30, 30.
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See, that's what got me in trouble.
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There's nothing wrong with being 30, but, you know, when we try
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to find people's ages, we look it up.
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And I guess what I was Googling was five years off.
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But it doesn't matter. You're awfully young and you
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know I'm a big fan of yours and I think it's one of these deals
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is where do we start? Do we do we start with the big
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win at Williams Grove on the last lap passing Brad Sweet, the
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four time World of All Champion or or do we do we talk about the
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$1,000,000 win at Eldora? I'm going to leave it up to you.
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Which one do you want to go with first?
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I don't know. Both of them were pretty cool,
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pretty memorable for sure. It took me 10 years to finally
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win a race at Williams Grove, which is our home race track,
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so. That's always where, you know,
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for my family and friends that can't travel, that's where
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they're always coming to. And it seemed like we struggled
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there for so long. So to finally get a win there
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and then in that kind of fashion was definitely really neat.
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But it's hard to beat that that big win week and a half ago at
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in, you know, Rossburg, Ohio. So it's pretty pretty awesome
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few weeks for us. Well, let's start like this.
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Let's start with Logan Schuhart, 30 years old Hanover, PA Your
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your grandfather is the great Sprint car Hall of Famer Bobby
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Allyn. You know, the you know, listen,
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you are very popular inside racing.
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I I always tell my friends, you look racing sometimes is a
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little bit of a cult. You can't go to Walmart, go to
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eat and expect everybody to know us.
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However, everybody knows you inside the racing world, so
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before we get to these races, you you grew up in racing.
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Let's get it out of the way. What is it like to grow up
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around Bobby? What is he like?
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He. Eats breeze, sleeps race cars,
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man. He's like that's he's he's
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turning 80 this year, but I don't.
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I don't think he slows down at all as far as his drive to want
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to win and and you know his days of of racing himself, as far as
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being a driver, it's as you know it's been a long time going but
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he's his ways of racing. Even when I was Jacob and I were
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kids and it was us racing go karts, you know his his drive to
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want to be, you know, what the tires were doing, how, what was
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the best chassis, what the guys were doing, how they were
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scaling the go karts. And you know it's on a much
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different level than what he was used to but his you know want to
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you know be the best or win and and just race like he loves it
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you know down to the core. So I that's who taught me to
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race and still does and I've I'm you know fortunate enough to
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have him by my side and these these big races that we can you
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know race together and share these memories and like I said
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he's. You know, almost 80 years old,
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but I'm, you know, still travels up and down the road with us.
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And you know he's who when I was a little kid, that's who I
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learned how to race from. He had a a go Kart track here in
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Hanover, PA, like an amusement type go Kart track.
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It's no longer around anymore. It was called Speedway 94 for a
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little bit, but you remember it. Yeah, that's that's how my
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grandpa taught me how to race. Really.
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Set up cones. You know on the straightaways to
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kind of get us going high on the straightaways and you know arc
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the corner and hit the apex right and all that kind of
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stuff. So that's how Jake and I learned
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how to race and as we got order is more of why he feels the cars
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you know do certain things what what makes them better on
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certain race tracks and how we can kind of learn the setups of
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the cars and and what makes them change.
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So I've I wouldn't say our team. You know there's a lot of people
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know and like you said in the in the racing world we, you know
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never never really had a whole lot of money.
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But we had his knowledge, his, his expertise of, you know,
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racing experience. And I was very, I am very
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fortunate to have somebody like that that can guide me to make,
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you know, the certain decisions that I that we make as a team,
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myself and my team make. And definitely very fortunate to
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have somebody like that by my side.
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Logan, I I think that's wonderful because I can really
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relate. You know, I'm an asphalt guy and
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I love dirt racing. I've been running dirt for 17 of
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my last years. But, you know, my dad was Russ
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Wallace, my brother Rusty and Mike.
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And then the great Dick Trickle would have been my Bobby Allen.
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You know, and it's funny how you talk about when we're kids, you
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know, we're born, maybe we're two, five years old and we're
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learning what I call geometry, you know, high down the
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straightaway. How do I make that arc on entry?
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Where do I let off the gas? Do I drag the brake?
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And I really like what you're saying.
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I can relate. And you know that that family of
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yours, I mean, Jacob Allen, Bobby Allen, Logan Schurr.
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I mean, these are the names of names.
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I know you are, but I just want to touch on that how, how proud
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of you are, you know, with with with you.
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I call you trio. That's a pretty big deal.
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Oh, definitely proud of how far we've come.
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It's that's what makes it neat, you know to win a race at
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Williams Grove last weekend. You know we have some friends
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and family sponsors that were traveling and go to certain
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parts of the country, the bigger events and and we've been you
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know fortunate to win some of those in the past or a lot of
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those people have been there but not very many or they all in one
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spot at one time so. And we usually have that when we
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go to Williams Grove. So it always it was kind of a it
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made it tough when you go back to your home track and you you
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struggle when you run 15th or whatever like that.
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But to have them all in one spot and you know, they know the
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story, they know how we started, how tough it was.
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You know the the 10-11 years on the road and and what it started
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out as to, you know, basically have no sponsors to driving.
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C&D, rigging everybody that's helped us out and we have
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Federated Auto Parts and just how it's how it's grown and
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gotten bigger and bigger over the years.
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So those people understand that, they know that and that's what
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makes it so much more special. Well, I guess it's time to get
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to the meat and potatoes. You know, the fans that tune
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into Kenny conversation, they want to know what it's like.
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So we're going to, we're going to start off with, we're going
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to have Charlie, our producer, drop that picture right here
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that really ricocheted throughout the racing world of
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how shark racing started. That is your race team.
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Who owns shark racing? That's right.
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I'd rather you say it than me. So there's that picture out
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there when you won $1,000,000 after winning El Dora, and we'll
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get in depth on that and Williams Grove.
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But can you tell us a little bit about this picture where just
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shows when Shark Racing first starts?
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It's just a normal passenger car towing.
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What is thought of is the first Sprint car.
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Is this picture true? Is it accurate?
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Yeah. So I think you're talking about
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as a Subaru pulling. That's it.
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That's it. And so I don't believe that was
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actually me. That was Jacob.
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And so when I first started we were running through limited
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Sprint cars here in Pennsylvania.
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It would have been around 2910, eleven area, and that photo is
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probably from about 2010. But we had one trailer as a lot
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of people know is the years when we build our own own trailer to
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save money. It ended up costing us about
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$40,000 total. But we put both cars
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back-to-back to run the World About All tour and Jacob still
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uses that trailer. No, he uses it still.
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Yeah, it's only we did it 2017, we we built that trailer and it
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does everything that needs to do.
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It might not be all, you know, flashy cabinets and stuff
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inside, but it does you know, the best job you need to run the
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World of Outlaw Tour. And my grandpa was talking about
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doing another one for ourselves, for our race team.
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But whether that happens or not, I'm not sure.
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But. To go back to the the Subaru on
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the open trailer, that would have been about 2010 and we had
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an old Kodiak toter home that my grandfather used to use that he
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bought it back from a friend of his.
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I believe it was Kevin Higgins and it was so it was like 1985.
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You know, Kodiak, that I'm sure those guys could share many
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stories of what you different race tracks that they took that
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thing to. But it pulled up a smaller
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enclosed trailer that my race car was in.
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And when Jacob started racing, you know we we still just use
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that one trailer. So to get Jake to the racetrack,
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they pulled it around with the Subaru and the the open trailer.
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So definitely come a long way. Yeah.
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So that's what we did. We painted the picture just now.
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I grew up on AM, AM radio listening to my Cardinals.
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You know you had to paint the picture and so so we know that
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you got a wonderful family. We know that your story right
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now this month is what we call rags to riches up.
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I'm sure you aren't rags by any means but let's talk about it
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now. So Tony Stewart decides to pay
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$1,000,000. Now this is, this is something
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out of fantasyland. It's not real, right?
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Us racers. Listen, I ate baloney and you
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know, Brown swagger and cheese and mayonnaise and my brother
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Rusty say go in there and make us some sandwiches.
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And we all grew up with, you know, smelling like grease and
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and we couldn't fathom $1,000,000.
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But my friend Logan, look at you.
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You go to Eldor, Tony Stewart says I'm going to pay $1,000,000
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and you win, you win $1,000,000. We'll get to the race in a
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minute, but what is it like to win $1,000,000 if you have to
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check? Tell me about all this I was.
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Going to say I don't, you know, people keep asking what's it you
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know, what's that like? I guess until the money hits
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your bank account or however that works, it's hard to say
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because I I don't feel any different.
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You know that it we have the, you know, we know the magnitude
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of the race and you know how big it was.
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We haven't actually got a check or anything like that yet, so.
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That part hasn't hit him yet. But to just that, you know, a
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race that's been building up since PRI that we've talked
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about, you know, we we thought, you know, there's rumors flying
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that, you know, a racetrack's going to pay $1,000,000 to win.
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It wasn't really sure which racetrack for a minute.
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And you know, we all thought it was probably going to be Eldora.
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There's a few other ones talking about it, but Tony and his team.
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You know, I, you know Tony, you know he loves Sprint cars.
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He's going to want to, you know put that type of money out there
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for you know, have a big pain, you know, Sprint car race.
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So it's something that's been building since PRI when it was
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announced. But you know, trying to focus on
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your year and and all the other races that we have going on, we
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have a lot of big races this year.
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You know, we race for $250,000. A few weeks ago he used to
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Speedway Todd Queering and his group are doing a lot for Sprint
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car racing growing the sport that that facility and others
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with Jackson. But we have a lot of big race
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this year and it just it just keeps growing.
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But that million to win is something that's kind of been in
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the back of everybody's head all year and you know I I knew we
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would have a great shot at it. It's Eldora has been good to me.
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I think we've won five or six races there now.
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And we won there in May. So I knew that we would, coming
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back in July, we were going to have a great shot at it.
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But to go out and actually actually do it and put it all
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together and just have the the two days that we had to to make
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it happen, it was unbelievable. So there are a lot of race
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tracks that you and I race at. You know, there's a scoreboard
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somewhere and you know, you got your stick man or you kind of
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know what's up. And let's be clear, you were
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dominant. You had no competition.
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I mean, obviously your ability is unbelievable and you got to
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hit your marks. You were riding high.
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You were not afraid to die. Can he do it?
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Jack Hewitt. I mean, downer in turn.
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One. You were headed to the wall,
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turning it every lap. I was scared for you.
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So tell me about those last five laps.
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Could you see how many laps there were left?
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I think the last corner, you might have gave yourself a
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little more room, I don't know. But I was.
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I was watching every lap. I'm like he, he ain't going to
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chance this last corner. Tell me about those last five
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laps. So I'd say more, I'd, I'd take
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you back a little bit, probably about 15 to go.
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I'd say the 1st 20 laps went by really quick and so we had a
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break there at 20 laps, 3030 laps to go.
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We fueled the cars back up and we had some drama right there.
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So we had, you know. The guys were changing gears,
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rear ends off full of grease, bringing the Jack out on the
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racetrack. And for people that don't know
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Eldora, it's got a lot of banking to it.
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And car actually fell off the Jack stand during the The guys
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did a great job. They stayed very calm, you know,
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Everybody stayed very calm, you know, picked the car back up,
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put it on the Jack stand, got the fuel in it.
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And got back on again. But to take you back to to 15
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laps to go, I'd say more around then.
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You know when you're leading a race like that, especially once
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you start to get to that point and knowing it has to get sort
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of close to the end. I was just waiting to see the
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white flag, probably about 15 laps to go, thinking man, if
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they got throw it sometime soon, yeah, it just lasts forever.
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Yeah, it feels like forever, but.
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Right around that I thought maybe you can glance at the
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scoreboard because you can see Eldora's scoreboard going down
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the front stretch. You can look into Turn 2 and see
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the scoreboard. But I sort of did that real
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quick and I felt like it took my focus off what I was doing and
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and where I needed to hit my Marks and.
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I told myself right then I thought, you know, maybe it's
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and I actually didn't see how many laps were to go.
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I didn't couldn't, you know, I didn't find the scoreboard as
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quick as I needed to. But I thought, you know, I work
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out every day and try to be the best in shape that I can.
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I know I have a great car, we're in a good spot.
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If I just put my head down and run the best laps that I can
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run, it's going to be very hard for somebody to catch it.
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So I just tried to run that car as hard as I could the best I
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could. And stay focused until I saw a
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checkered flag. And with a I didn't see a 2 to
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go, but I did see the white flag and I did.
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I had no trouble getting around the lap cars before that.
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I felt like it when I got to him.
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They didn't really slow up my momentum at all.
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I was able to get to their rear bumper, make a move on in the
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next corner to where it didn't really slow down my momentum
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but. When I caught got the white
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flag, there was two lap cars in front of me and they're both
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running my line, both right in front of me.
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And that night the highline at Eldora was definitely the the
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fastest way to go. And I didn't want to peel off
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and slide them or drive through the bottom of the racetrack cuz
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I didn't know how close somebody was behind us.
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You know, we, like you said, we don't have.
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People throwing up signs to us or you know, somebody in our ear
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saying hey you have, you know, 3 second lead which we had.
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So I didn't know if Carson or whoever was.
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Let me ask you right there. Are there no?
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Are there no sticks? In world of Outlaw Sprint car
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racing, do you get no signals? No, I don't believe we're
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actually allowed to. Yeah.
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Illegal for you guys, OK? So it's illegal, but I don't
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know if you could actually see him even if you were.
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We're going so fast, but with the wing.
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Yeah, yeah, it's you're carrying a lot of speed and like I said,
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just to even look at the scoreboard, that big gigantic
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scoreboard, I felt like it was taking my, you know, taking my
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focus away too much. So.
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But I followed both those guys into the corner and for people
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that don't know Sprint car race and when you have that big, you
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know 5 by 5 wing on top of there.
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It's creating a lot of downforce and when you get behind
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somebody, what they call dirty air, it takes all that, all that
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downforce off your wing. It actually almost feels like
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it's picking the left rear of the car up off the ground and
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it's make. That's why when I followed the
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car into the corner, it actually, it didn't want to
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turn. It was getting tight.
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It was trying to get into the wall.
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And I had to jam on the brakes and get the car to turn left
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down, back across the racetrack and 1:00 and 2:00, is that what
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you did tag the wall a little bit going into one, didn't you?
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Or not. I got tight in the cushion.
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Whether it was the wall, definitely it was.
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It was the scary scenario and it was more than what I wanted to
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be. But I was able to drive down
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across the racetrack. I don't know if I passed one of
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the two cars. But I told myself going into
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three and four, that I was taking a conservative role.
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I was driving across the racetrack and if somebody, yeah,
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somebody was close to me, they were going to have to drive
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around the outside of me, which would have been a pretty tough
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task in itself. So I took the, took the safe
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route, went through the middle of the racetrack and was able to
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see the checkered flag at that moment.
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You know, this reminds me of the Chili Bowl.
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You know where I'm going with this About three years ago, Kyle
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Larson's leading the race. He's got to put his left front
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on the berm every lap. There's only that's the only
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grip there and he's got Christopher Bell breathing down
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his neck. And, you know, I really admired
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Kyle Larson after the race because at that time it was like
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the only race he wanted to win. You know, it was almost as big
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as any NASCAR race. And he admitted in his, you
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know, interview after the Chili Bowl that he looked up at the
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big screen and lost his focus going into one.
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So I think any young kid listening to you right now, I've
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been there before too, where you're, you try to take a little
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shortcut. You're like, how many go, you
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know, you catch yourself messing up and you're like, that's not
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the way to do it. And I really appreciate you
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telling that story because I know a lot of, you know, race
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car drivers are listening to you right now.
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So you win the $1,000,000, you're good at, El Dora.
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And what is this, the month of July And and here you go now
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you're not a one hit wonder you go to quite possibly besides
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Knoxville and Eldora Williams Grove.
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I mean, I just like saying that Williams Grove, are you, do you
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consider yourself Pennsylvania posse?
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So I like the term. I, some fans call us PA Outlaws
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because I'm I'm proud of where I come from.
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Proud of yeah, it's it kind of stuck somewhere in the middle
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there. You know they took the the
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Morgan Cup Friday. They the Outlaws took that back
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in North Carolina. So they claimed it.
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But I'm proud of both. I'm proud to to to be an outlaw.
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You know, I I feel like the Outlaws are the best of the best
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as far as Sprint car racing they are.
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And yeah without a doubt so and that's where I always wanted to
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be. I love Sprint car racing so I as
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a kid I wanted to be racing with the best of the best the biggest
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races and and the outlaws are where that's at so but to to
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grow up in a you know an area of Sprint car racing in central PA
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that you have Waynes Grove and and Lincoln Speedway and Port
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Royal and all the work that they've done to make that as as
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good as it is, you know I'm just.
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You know I I just think that's awesome that the passion that
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the PA fans have and to grow up in this area and to learn how to
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drive a Sprint car with you know greats like Greg Hodnett and
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Lance the Weiss. And you know who those big name
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guys that were around here that that form you know Sprint car
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racing and Fred Raymer when I first started you know one of my
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first races he beat the Outlaws and Stevie Smith.
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You know all those guys that. And and that's one reason I'm,
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you know, I kind of like being you know in the middle as far as
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that goes. You know Stevie Smith with Smith
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Titanium is is one of our, you know, he has a lot to do with
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shark racing and all his components.
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There's a lot legendary name, Legendary.
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Legend, but as a kid you know he was from New Oxford.
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It's right up the road from where I live.
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And he raced with the Outlaws for a long time and he was
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always one of my favorites. So as a as a kid you know, and
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now as a race car driver, I always thought that'd be cool
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if, you know, kids looked at me the same way, you know, as the
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PA hometown outlaw and you know, I'm proud of that.
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So you you win Eldora, you win $1,000,000, you basically go
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home to Williams Grove. You're running second to Brad.
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Sweet. I feel like you and Brad have
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been glued to each other here lately.
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You really, you. You've really.
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I've followed everything. You know, you run 1-2 at the
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Million Dollar Race, then here you are.
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This is last week. Brad's leading the race at
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Williams Grove. Your guys, you're coming to the
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checker and you get by him to win in front of your people.
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I mean it's almost bigger than $1,000,000 because your your
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whole life, my whole life. I mean like hell, if I just win
23:27
with my grandkids there, it's like bigger than big.
23:30
So take me through the last half lap or last lap at Williams
23:36
Grove and then getting out of the car and there the family is.
23:41
Tell me about this huge win at Williams Grove with the World of
23:44
Outlaws. Brad and I both in the past I'd
23:51
say five years we've we've both struggled at Williams Group for
23:55
whatever reason. That seemed to be one track that
23:59
you know say we're running well in points and and wanted to be
24:02
consistent. Obviously you have to but that
24:06
was one that I feel like you know Brad would go there, he'd
24:08
kind of struggle, our team would struggle.
24:11
Now the past few times that we've been there, we've both
24:14
been been running up front, so. I feel like we both kind of
24:18
figured something out, got our cars where they need to be or
24:21
both qualifying while starting up front.
24:25
But I was happy with running. I mean, you never happy with
24:29
running second. It's OK.
24:31
I totally get it. I get it.
24:33
At that, at that point, felt like, you know, we're going to
24:36
run second. It's a good run.
24:40
You know, like I said, the place has been tough to me.
24:42
You know, if we could just hang on, get a podium, finish, you
24:46
know, we'll try again tomorrow. But I followed Brad the whole
24:51
race. We ran the top of the race track
24:53
and we got to some lap cars. They held me up a little bit
24:57
longer than than what I would have liked.
24:59
I didn't get by them as quick as I needed to and I'd say I look,
25:04
I did look up at the scoreboard at that point.
25:06
It's a little easier at Williams Square to do and I saw, you
25:09
know, that track like the back of your hand.
25:11
Yeah, there's 20 laps in, there's only a 25 lap race.
25:14
So at that point, I thought, I'm just going to pull the wing back
25:18
and try to move around the race track and see if I can find
25:21
something. Because you know, what am I?
25:22
Where is that wing adjustment in your car, Logan?
25:25
Where what? What hand do you use?
25:27
How do you do that? It's it's right to the the left
25:30
of the steering wheel. Right underneath the steering
25:33
wheel you have your on and off fuel switch.
25:37
Fuel lever. And then to the to the left of
25:39
the steering wheel is your hydraulic wing cylinder.
25:41
So it's easy, you know, to just grab that quick yank on it and
25:47
especially going back where it'll go back a lot quicker than
25:52
what it goes forward. So if you're going down a big
25:54
long straighter like Williams Grove, it's got all that
25:55
pressure on it. You yank it quick and that that
25:58
wing will go back. So that's interesting.
26:02
You can. I basically pull it the whole
26:04
way back. Tried to see if I could find
26:05
somewhere else on the racetrack and Brad, you know, I was.
26:11
They say 2, two seconds behind them the last two laps or
26:14
something like that. And when we went into one and
26:18
two for the final time, I think he still had a second and a
26:20
half. But I think he got up in the
26:23
cushion, got up the higher side of the racetrack and whether you
26:27
know, something was going wrong with his car at that point.
26:30
But he seemed like he really sat still and I felt we gained, you
26:34
know, 678 car lengths and you did just one friend too.
26:38
So really called up to him. And then I was almost on his
26:43
bumper going down the backstretch.
26:45
And when we went to go into Turn 3 just a few weeks ago at at
26:48
Cedar Lake Speedway in Wisconsin, we had the same
26:53
similar scenario. I was on his bumper.
26:55
He kind of blocked me going into three and four in the bottom.
26:58
You know the perfect move that you need to do as as a leader
27:01
and I tried to run around the outside just like we did on
27:04
Friday but we came up short finished second to Brad and he
27:08
got the win. But at Williams Grove, you know
27:12
he went to the bottom enter in three and I knew they just he
27:16
was going to do that just because of weeks prior and I ran
27:20
the top of the racetrack this time.
27:22
And when when we came out of four, he's, you know, it's
27:25
probably the same problem that he had coming out of two.
27:27
His car just really sat still and I could see his tires
27:30
spinning, you know, dust is flying off the rear of the car
27:34
and I just got a huge run off of four.
27:37
I felt like I was 10 mile an hour faster than him at that
27:40
point and just tried to stay a little higher on the racetrack.
27:45
And I knew when he came up the corner he was going to take it
27:47
to the outside wall and I just waited.
27:50
Until I got almost to his bumper to kind of turn the car left and
27:54
try to just get underneath of him.
27:56
And when we got to the line, it felt like we were pretty, you
27:59
know, equal weather, you know, you never know where the
28:02
transponder loop is either. It can be, you know, right
28:04
before the flag stand, at the flag stand, past the flag stand.
28:08
And I knew if if it was before the flag stand, he probably won.
28:13
But if it was at the flag stand or just past it, then we did.
28:16
So it wasn't. So I came around Turn 2.
28:20
Looked at the scoreboard and saw the one on the board that that I
28:23
knew we won. So I was pretty excited at that
28:25
point just because it's took taking so long to win at that
28:29
place. The PA fans were awesome.
28:33
Cheering, yelling. Their boy.
28:37
Making us feel good, I felt like we won the million all over
28:39
again. Really is a 15,000 to win race.
28:43
But man, it just it felt good to to finally win one at him in
28:47
front of all your all those fans.
28:50
Friends and family that I knew were there and let me interrupt
28:53
you. One minute I heard something and
28:55
I listened intently. You said you learned something
28:58
at Cedar Lake and I think that's interesting.
29:01
You know you you followed Brad at Cedar Lake.
29:04
You kind of knew his tendencies. Cedar Lake I haven't wrote down
29:08
here 2016 was. Was Cedar Lake your very first
29:12
world of Outlaw win? Very first win in 2000.
29:17
We haven't. We haven't won there since then,
29:18
but that was our very first win in 2016.
29:22
So now you Fast forward and you you think about that because you
29:25
know his tendencies, man. I'll tell you what this is.
29:29
There should be a short story, a movie made of this this last
29:33
month with you Eldora. You learn a lot at Cedar Lake
29:37
because you he Brad remind you of his tendencies.
29:40
You remember that going into the Turn 3 at Williams Grove?
29:44
OK, so now you win the race, OKI just wanted to talk about Cedar
29:48
Lake for a minute. So now you win the race.
29:51
OK, take me through Victory Lane.
29:55
Well, I'd say when we pull across the scales after, you
29:58
know, you pull off the racetrack and turn 2:00, you got to scale
30:01
outside the racetrack. So our teams over there, you
30:04
know, they're hooting holler and fist pumping class and there's a
30:10
cool. So I think we actually posted to
30:12
our social media. There's a GoPro right by my head
30:16
that you can see my excitement, but you can, as we pull back out
30:20
on the racetrack to go around, you know you have the infield
30:24
fans, beer hills up here on the right.
30:27
They're all cheering. So just really cool feeling.
30:31
And when we get to Victory Lane, man.
30:33
And for for Sprint Car fans or people that don't know Sprint
30:36
Cars, our our biggest race at Williams Grove comes in end of
30:39
September. Beginning October, it's Williams
30:41
Grove National Open. And you know, this being a
30:45
15,000 win race, Williams the national open 75.
30:49
But anyways, pulling around Turn 4 to to Victory Lane on the
30:53
front stretch, there was probably a couple 100 people on
30:58
the front stretch for us to pull in the Victory Lane and I felt
31:01
like we just won the national open or something.
31:03
So it's, you know, like I said, a couple 100 people sitting
31:07
there, you get the Victory Lane. They're they're shooting the
31:10
confetti. You know, friends, family, I
31:14
can't give hugs fast enough, you know.
31:18
You know, I'm getting punched in the arm by some, some family
31:21
members hugged by other ones. I'm I'm emotional for you right
31:25
now because I I feel it. I feel.
31:29
It was but just the, the, the then to get on top of the wing
31:34
and you know, look at the crowd and see how happy they are.
31:41
Yeah, definitely. A really cool feeling you didn't
31:43
practice on that wing here lately.
31:45
Yeah, we've got a few chances to get up there, that's for sure.
31:49
And it's, you know, you got to take them when you can get them
31:52
because this racing thing, it's, it's tough.
31:54
We've been, you know, my teammates down a little bit
31:57
right now, but I can see, you know, I've been in that
32:00
position. I know what it feels like to
32:01
just get your butt kicked all the time, and even last year you
32:05
know we won one race up until a couple weeks from now.
32:09
And it's it's tough. You know you're racing with the
32:12
best of the best. Like you said, Brad is a four
32:14
time word of outlaw champion wins.
32:17
You know, sometimes double digit races in one year, you know him,
32:21
David Carson. They're so good on a weekly
32:25
basis at every racetrack. So when you can put your car in
32:29
Victory Lane and you're able to win races like that, it it
32:32
definitely is almost feels like a big weight off your shoulders
32:36
that you can get that done. But they're definitely the best
32:40
of the best and you know, I have a high level respect for all of
32:43
them, for what they do. I think that's a good attitude.
32:46
We talked to Donnie Shots last week on Kenny Conversation and
32:51
here we all know that, you know, as of right now, Steve Kinzer is
32:54
the greatest with the World of Outlaws and probably Donnie
32:57
Shots. And Donnie is devastated right
33:00
now. Even though he he won a big race
33:02
at El Dora this year, he feels like he's not where he needs to
33:07
be. I mean, this is the life we live
33:11
as dirt racers. We're we're dealing with
33:13
different track surfaces every night and this and that.
33:17
It it, it is feast or famine, don't you think?
33:22
It is. That's how you know, Donnie.
33:24
Like you said, he just won the King's Royal.
33:27
But when I first. You know, my first couple of
33:29
years racing with the World of Outlaws, Donnie was winning
33:32
3035. So I I that's when you have,
33:37
it's devastated right now. Yeah.
33:40
When you're when you're used to doing that or when you're you
33:42
know what that feels like, yeah, your expectations are high and
33:45
I've I've been around long enough to you know, you know
33:49
just with the small amount of success that we've had that.
33:52
The expectations don't come back down every year.
33:55
They get higher and higher and higher and you're expected to do
33:58
more. Everybody around you expects to
34:00
do better. Doesn't always work like that
34:02
though. It's it's part of racing.
34:05
But yeah, Donnie is definitely, he's awesome like that.
34:10
As far as the my respect for a driver like that, that as good
34:14
as he is and how smart he is on the racetrack and clean at the
34:17
same time, definitely, you know. One of the best race car drivers
34:22
I was raced with no doubt. I do also have a very high
34:26
respect for the crew chiefs in in our sport for for Jacob and I
34:31
that have more of a hands on role than I'd say some other
34:36
drivers do. But it's you know the guys like
34:40
Phillip Deets on the 41 car, you know Ricky Warner on Rico's car,
34:46
you know Cody Jacobs with David Gravel.
34:48
They're very smart. As far as knowing what the race
34:52
tracks call for, you know the drivers get the, you know, the
34:55
fun job. They get to get in and drive the
34:56
things and if it you know, sometimes it makes them, you
34:59
know, look really good. Sometimes it can make them look
35:01
bad, as Kenny Schrader says, Schrader says, Listen, we're all
35:05
pretty good, you know? And as my brother Rusty says,
35:08
get your head in the carburetor. And as Dale Earnhardt taught me,
35:12
you know, a slow horse does not win races.
35:15
So I like it that you're giving a shout out to the crew Cheese.
35:20
You know what makes the car fast?
35:24
Yeah, I mean, sometimes I'll know within a few laps we make
35:28
some changes that, you know, we're unsure of.
35:30
Sometimes it works out great. You know, we'll make some
35:32
changes that we're unsure of and you know, I'd run the 1st 3
35:35
laps. I mean, man, you know, I have a
35:36
great shot. This your eyeballs are like,
35:39
damn, this is gay. I can drive.
35:43
But it can also have the opposite effect.
35:46
Or you run one or two laps and like, man, this is going to be a
35:49
long race. I'm going to going to take
35:52
everything I have just to stay where I'm at just to get a top
35:55
ten or you know say we're starting 10th or 11th, just that
35:58
in which we had the same, you know that that happened on
36:01
Saturday we started 9th and finished 11th and it it takes a
36:05
few laps to to be like you know I'm going to have to race this
36:09
thing hard just to stay where I'm at.
36:11
So, but I do have a high level respect for those crew chiefs
36:15
that they can, you know, mine's a little bit different.
36:19
I can. I go run a couple laps in a heat
36:22
race and I can say, well, it kind of felt like this.
36:25
Would you guys think and make you know, changes accordingly?
36:28
This guys, you know, they sit in the infield and watch their car
36:32
go around the race track and come back and make those
36:35
changes. Or you know maybe they're just
36:37
very good with physics or or whatever but they no high level
36:42
respect for for how what they do I want.
36:46
I got a couple a couple more things.
36:48
But I want to touch on this. I I I see how the sport has
36:51
changed myself. I'm going to be 60 years old
36:56
August 23rd and you know, listen I've watched my dad, my grandma,
37:02
my grandpa, you know, all have you know cardiovascular
37:06
problems. They've died and and I'm like,
37:09
I'm, I'm going to eat salmon and chicken and I'm going to you
37:13
know, I would do all my own work, Logan, on my race car and
37:16
I'm in good shape. Here's where I'm going with
37:19
this. When I talked to Donnie Shots
37:21
last week and when I talked to Brad Sweet before Donnie, both
37:28
of them brought up what you said.
37:30
You said you work out. Donnie said that his neck is so
37:35
strong. I'm hearing more and more of you
37:40
world of outlaw racers talking about working out how strong you
37:45
are. You hear the Formula One guys
37:48
that race in a different country every other week.
37:52
This is the new world we live in.
37:54
I mean you're you're you say you're working out and you focus
37:58
level. Tell me about everybody working
38:01
out with, you know, to be the best they can be.
38:05
Yeah, my teammate. Both of us, Jacob and I, both.
38:08
We both try to, you know, we'll go on runs together.
38:12
We might go to the gym or do whatever.
38:14
I know Brad works out. I've seen him at my local YMCA
38:17
when we're in town and run into him there.
38:20
You know, I remember seeing Donnie, you know, he he works
38:23
out all the time. He used to be a little bit
38:24
bigger and lost some weight. And I know he said he felt feels
38:27
way better in a race car, Donnie says.
38:29
He's got the strongest neck in all of the world.
38:33
Probably does. Hey, I think when he started
38:36
working out is when he started winning those those 30 races a
38:39
year. So he was, but no, I think all
38:44
you know, all over in general, I think it makes me feel better in
38:47
a race car. You know when I first started
38:48
there were some races where I felt like I was getting tired
38:52
and not totally tired where you can't even hang on to the car.
38:56
But you're the problem is your focus is you know.
39:01
Why am I breathing heavy? You know, I'm my arms are kind
39:04
of worn out and you're thinking about how you're tired instead
39:08
of being focused on the racetrack and how you're going
39:11
to, you know, attack the car in front of you, you know, hitting
39:15
your Marks and that's where your focus should be.
39:17
So it you know. All in all, I think working
39:24
out's just good to to keep you sharp up here.
39:26
Just the just, you know, just to keep you in shape and, you know,
39:29
keep you mentally sharp. You know, from your daytoday
39:34
tasks, you wake up in the morning, you go for a run and
39:37
you workout. You know you already completed
39:40
one of your tasks for the day and it's just you know, going
39:42
through the motions. My dad was a Marine.
39:45
He's he taught me at a young age.
39:47
You know when I didn't pick up my room or something and it was
39:50
20 push ups or whatever makes sense.
39:54
So you're stout. Thanks.
39:57
But yeah, that's so I think part of that I got from from him.
40:01
And we'll still work out in the winter time.
40:03
He's he's in his later 50s but we'll we'll work out together go
40:07
to the local YMCA or actually today I went for a run and he
40:11
rode his bicycle next to me. So yeah, I definitely got that
40:16
from him. I think it's there's no
40:18
disadvantage to racing as far as you know, being in shape, it's,
40:23
it's not going to hurt you. I can tell you for any young kid
40:27
you know it's, it's definitely not going to hurt you.
40:29
There's no disadvantages to it. So As for myself, I feel like
40:34
when I first started, it's at any advantage that you can get.
40:37
Like I said, these are the best drivers, the best teams in the
40:40
country, in the world really. And if you have any type of
40:44
advantage that you have at your exposure, you should take it.
40:48
So as far as working out and being in shape, that's just you
40:52
know one of those advantages. Logan, I I love talking to you.
40:56
We're already at 42 minutes. So let's let's end it like this
41:00
my friend. This is just going to be fun for
41:02
me. I I hear both things from you.
41:05
I know $1,000,000 is life changing in in some ways.
41:11
But also in listen to you about, you know Williams girl, the win
41:17
at Williams girl. So let's end like this.
41:19
We we got $1,000,000. At Eldora, where you've already
41:22
won a lot but this one paid a million and and and you finally
41:28
won Williams Grove in front of your family.
41:32
You know what I'm saying it. It almost sounds to me like
41:35
you're more excited about Williams Grove.
41:37
And you know, we both grew up as children, right?
41:40
Racers just just break. Let's end the show like this.
41:45
Break both weekends down for me. Yeah.
41:49
So I actually got asked that by a fan this past weekend and I
41:52
didn't know how to answer it because I said there's a PA fan.
41:56
Obviously we're at Williams Grove still, but they said, hey,
42:00
if you put money aside and money wasn't part of it, which one
42:03
was? Which one meant more to you?
42:06
And I thought, man, that's tough.
42:08
Like I feel like I know what I want to answer.
42:10
But you know the millions just so life changing like I I've
42:15
told people in the past you know I just want to race for a
42:18
living. I just want to be a professional
42:20
race car driver be able to do what I love to do And if money
42:24
comes along with it and I'm able to you know be successful enough
42:27
that I can race my whole career and and you know do all the
42:31
things that we got to do is you know as far as people to take
42:34
care of our family or whatever you know that's what I want.
42:37
But definitely you know when $1,000,000 that's life changing
42:40
for myself as a as a Sprint car driver to and you be able to put
42:45
that away or do whatever with it.
42:48
Like I said, we're trying to build a shop house.
42:51
So that's, you know, that's where probably a lot of that's
42:53
going. People have asked me that, but
42:55
so do you. Let me get nosy do do you make
42:58
50% too, or are you a little less because you're family?
43:02
When I win I get 50%. I love you.
43:07
Thank you. So you know when you when you
43:10
win, it gets. $500,000 maybe by by garage trying to build a shop
43:19
house not too far from ours right now so but the win at
43:24
Williams Grove to to win on the last lap with you know, it
43:27
wasn't a nobody either. Like you said, Brad Sweet is,
43:31
you know up there at the best of the best.
43:34
So to beat somebody like him at her home track with all our
43:38
friends and family there, man, that was definitely a very
43:40
memorable one. But I I hate to put one above
43:45
the other. Yeah, well, well, Logan, my eyes
43:47
are watering a little bit for you because I I I just relate
43:51
with you. I really have enjoyed talking to
43:53
you. Congratulations.
43:55
Now listen, we all know, we all know the peaks and valleys, we
43:58
get all that. But you know, it's it's like.
44:02
The races that I've won on asphalt, my crew member goes
44:05
over and checks the right rear tire.
44:07
I'm like, we'll worry about that tire later.
44:10
Right now we just want a big race.
44:12
So take it easy on yourself. I know, I know it's a long World
44:16
of Outlaws season. I know you're going to win.
44:18
You're going to lose. But buddy, you got it going on
44:22
right now. You're you're the you're the
44:24
biggest story in the World of Outlaws.
44:26
And congratulations. Thank you, Kenny.
44:29
Thanks for thinking of me having me on your show.
44:31
It's great to great to talk to you.
44:33
We have to share a story, You know, kind of you're you're a
44:37
little bit rags or riches financially.
44:41
You did not let money you know, stunt your growth.
44:45
Now you got a million and. Now you'd be able to pack some
44:48
wheel bearings and all right, everybody will listen.
44:53
That's the legendary already at 30 years old, Logan Shoe Art won
44:57
$1,000,000 and then backed it up with a huge win at Williams
45:01
Grove. So remember, we are on iTunes,
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45:10
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45:13
And Logan, thank you, buddy. Thanks, Kenny.
45:17
Appreciate it. Thanks again.
45:19
See you later everyone.