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Weak Ankled David: Nevermind Baby Lawsuit & Spider-Man No Way Home · Multiple Nerdgasm

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[Music] welcome to multiple
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nerdgasm with your hosts Matt Luke and
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Dan multiple nerdgasm your guide to All
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Things nerdy another week and another baby another baby no I don't have a baby
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you've got several babies just I have fur babies feline yeah yeah I'm not I I
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don't think I should look after a child maybe I mean you you look after your
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pretty well you have a detachable tongue that you can attach to yourself to lick
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them with they tend to just look after themselves mhm like it's like if I don't
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I don't have to change them yeah whereas a baby if I didn't change the baby would
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just roll around in its crap all day yeah yeah that is what happens and then they get
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rashes yeah it shouldn't let it get to that point um no where's a cat just
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there's your litter box all go outside yeah I mean that's going to be my
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philosophy too eventually just go outside once she can get up and get
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moving herself yeah that's right yeah um Matt is here this week but he's tending
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to a child right now so hopefully he'll be back shortly he should be but
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speaking of children we've got follow-up news on a child we do we do we've got
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follow-up news already because last week we wondered why it was that the boy from
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the never mind Nirvana album cover suddenly 20 years later decided to sue
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and now we 30 years oh my God I'm so [ __ ] old it is it is really close to
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30 years isn't it yep so do we know
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why yeah cuz cuz he's annoyed at Nirvana at the two remaining members of Nana
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because uh apparently his profession is he's a he's a art gallery curator and he
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recently had a Gallery exhibition that he asked Nana to contribute something to
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and they said no not interested and he was like well [ __ ]
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you yeah so this this oh God I hate it when people do stuff like that yeah yeah
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so it's just because they didn't give him something that he would make money
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of mhm and so he's going I'm going to take money off you and actually to be
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fair they didn't say no he just tried to contact with them and could only speak
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to their lawyers and managers oh so it never it never eventuated because he
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just kind of got caught up in their management and probably started
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demanding stuff I'm guessing yeah was probably a prick about it because he's
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gone ahead and said this quote I was getting referred to their managers and
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their lawyers why am I still on their album cover if I'm not that big of a
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deal cuz it's it's a picture from 30 years ago they don't I don't know many
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album covers that get updated over the years imagine that imagine like I'm just
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annoyed at this [ __ ] baby with his dick out trying to get the dollar bill
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off the hook let's let's do a whole new album yeah my guess is if he had have
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spoken to the lawyers and managers yeah and gone hey yeah I'm just doing this
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wonder if you could contribute anything yeah I was I was the baby on the album
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yeah I've got a tattoo yeah might be nice if you know it was a bit
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of yeah yeah it also means he's not in any contact with the people in the band
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and he probably never was he probably just knew the photographer and that was
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it he probably knew no one he was a baby
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yeah mhm how many people do you keep in contact with from when you were a baby
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very few very very you you probably still get money out of it and that's the
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most annoying thing about it all yeah cuz it probably will just be a look
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we'll settle this his $10,000 go away there must be something so Soul
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destroying with having something happen to you when you're a baby and knowing
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you'll never ever have any better way of making money out of it than just
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flogging that dead horse over and over again I get it go he he could like focus
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on his job or something yeah mhm yeah move out of the Shadow with
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uh cuz it's not like he gets recognized on the street hey you're a baby from
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that album yeah no that doesn't happen in fact I think he probably tells a lot
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of people that he is the baby from that album yeah I'm I'm pretty sure that's
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what he opens with at every party yeah or just has his shirt low enough so he
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can read his tattoo and then just like slowly keeps subtly pointing at it yep I
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hope he gets nothing yeah I know it's mean but I'm sort of for him to recreate
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the photo and even like remember when he talked himself into it sort of four
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years ago that might not be right even though he's been milking it and
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recreating the photo and got the never mind tattoo I don't want to talk about
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it he frustrates me yeah yeah no more yeah because he's
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now claiming that he has suffered quote lifelong damages I think he has but I
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think that's from other other reasons yeah but he's he said it's because quote
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the band have leveraged the shocking nature of my image to promote themselves
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and their music um Nana stopped being a thing in the '90s
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yeah so this album came out '93 when did Kirk Cain die '94 94 yeah yeah so that's
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when Nana stopped being a band yeah and they've all gone on to do other things
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and I'm pretty sure like Dave Gro isn't walking into his new band are going see
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this naked baby yeah you should be my band we could do more stuff like this
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yeah in fact I'd go as far as saying the fu fighters are a bigger band than Nana
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ever was yes definitely by a long shot
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now yeah mhm like if I was going to go see a band and I had a choice between
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Nana or food Fighters i' go see food Fighters cuz seeing nana be a bit weird
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mhm like no singer guitar yeah yeah
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uh the f fighters are certainly more a talented band but uh I can't say I
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choose them over Nana but that's just for sentimental reasons yeah but
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remember there's no KK Cain so you're just going to see a guy playing drums
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and bass there's no singer yeah it takes away from it that's that's true yeah in
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fact Dave R's Talent was really wasted being the drummer for that band wasn't
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it oh yeah yeah well if even if you look at the first Foo Fighters album didn't
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he basically do everything yeah it kind of reminds me except it's the opposite
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of one day when um Paul McCartney was asked if uh Ringo Star was the best
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drummer in the world and and his answer was he's not even the best drummer in the
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band it's just we can't play two instruments at the same time that's
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right so yeah yeah if you could go back in time and see any concer at any point
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living or dead original lineup what would it be oh listen wait for some band
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you've never heard of from penth in the '90s I I was sort of thinking maybe hassle
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breade mhmh um speckled
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foam I'm sure speckled foam will get together if you paid them enough no I
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wouldn't I doubt it unpaid debt would yeah maybe with a bit of little more
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than you in the middle yep yeah no that I don't really i' I've
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sort of seen seen most bands I want to see yeah okay I think my problem with
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I've seen a lot of great bands too but I always see them long after they in their
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Prime you know what I mean like when I and and they're starting to play their
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new stuff yeah correct like I saw Metallica but I saw the same anger T and
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it was like well you know yeah I saw the Cure but I saw them in
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you know 2007 not 1984 but you'll never yeah I saw a cure
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then and they were great yeah yeah they were great but they they weren't they
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got far too many songs by that point yeah like play play
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cats to the point that's it yeah exactly no they played nothing off that album
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Luke nothing not a thing I've seen him play that have you yeah cuz um cuz they
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were at uh big day out or they were at a music festival at the same time they
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were doing their shows the shows they played a lot of new new stuff but the
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festival that played a lot of their old stuff nobody goes to see the que to hear
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new stuff nobody no one no one goes to see band to see new new stuff no it's
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true the new stuff's all terrible always no one likes you new stuff I'm talking to you
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everybody but then sometimes you listen to it like 10 years later and it grows
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on you a bit Yeah but it's not new any time yeah it's got to become an earwig a
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little bit it's got to it's got to kind of burrow into your
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brain but yeah I've sort of seen all the bands are like dying to see there's a
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couple I haven't I've still got time there's still playing okay like Biz I've
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always wanted to see Biz live Biz Biz bis they did the soundtrack for
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Powerpuff Girls oh okay and they are a very fun band and they follow me on
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Instagram that's great Michael frany follows me on Instagram oh okay yeah any
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reason why don't know liked a picture of mine once okay yeah I know why they
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followed me it's cuz I was following them I was foll or spearhead just suddenly it's like
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Michael FR is following you and I'm like this can't be the real oh no it is there
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you go time to slip into his DMs I don't know what I'd say to Michael
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frany why are you following me yeah he had some great albums 15 20 years ago
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probably close to 30 I didn't buy them all but I listened to a lot of them when
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I worked at a record store and I was putting my way through college and had
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to listen to them yeah yeah he's all right though I don't mind a bit of
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Michael frany spearit I I can't think of anything he's sung I can't think of the
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hits either is that in air quotes or like
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hits in terms of like Triple J hits oh Triple J is terrible these days
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it really is it's [ __ ] awful it's just as bad as all the other channels
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now I hate the radio I'm an old man and I yell at the Radio See I used to like
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Triple J just not because it just wasn't the ads but some of the stuff that they
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used to say on their news programs i' age and now I listen to it and go no
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you're just being argumentative for the sake of it you're not listening to his
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response yeah yeah yeah yeah you're just trying to be antagonistic mhm I know I
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hate it I hate it so much my my worst thing at the moment that makes me the
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angriest is when I get in the car and I turn the ignition and H has had the
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radio on cuz it'll just automatically come on like it's just and I don't want
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to say to her like before you turn the off turn the radio off switch it back on
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to auxiliary or something so that nothing plays when I get in the car cuz
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that's just too old Manny for me but I just want it sink to my phone and listen
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to my audio book exactly exactly I'm still trying to listen to audio books
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I'm still listening to air to the Empire I've been listening for 3 months now
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well it's all right it's a long book it's not really no it's not that long I
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read it in like four days when I first got it and that's when I was young you
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need to start doing something that gets you time where all you can do is listen
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to the audio book The it's catching a train was my always well yeah yeah
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you if I could run yeah you could that
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would be my go-to or yeah jiga
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puzzle no cuz then if I'm doing jiga puzzle well my Xbox is just over there
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so I could do that I know it's it's an Xbox does make it hard to want to do
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anything else doesn't it yeah even though they won't give me my new limited
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edition Halo console I'm reading something good at the moment that was
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referred by listener Grant so Grant thank you for putting me on to the
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sparrow by Mary Doria Russell very good
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um Catholics in space if I had to give it a tagline
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okay um I need to uh spend some AUD audible credits because I'm up to six
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again oh wow and if you don't spend them they
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just expire which I still think is [ __ ] I I think I have three a month
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or something but then I constantly have to top up yeah no I get one a month M I
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was getting the one a month but then I was spending too much so I just buy
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three credits a month now it's ends up being a lot cheaper but you know what
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one thing I've got on there that I tend to listen to I've got the entire Black
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Adder series oh sweet and it's just a show all the shows really even the
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special features and S I've seen them I don't to watch just the AIO I know
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exactly what's going totally yeah when I was a kid before there was an internet
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and when I didn't have like a VCR or anything in my bedroom or any way to
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watch things I used to tape shows onto an audio cassette from my living room TV
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and then just play them at night in my room yep like if you've seen it enough
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you what's happening yeah yeah but it is funny watching but and even on this the
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a complete series they've got like a sort of uh behind the scenes sort of
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thing saying how all came together and they're saying like the first series was
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just an utter mess it very quick very quickly we had to get Rowan ainson to
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stop writing really not not because he's not he's a
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bad writer or anything it's just no you need to act learn your
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lines the final episode of the first series I think is very good the first
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one they filmed is it yeah right oh that's funny cuz I I feel it finally
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Finds Its feet there and then from the second series onwards it's
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excellent I still love that the last scene in the last episode is probably
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the best of all of it when they're going over the top and it's just you I WEP
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it's funny but sad yeah I [ __ ] wept man but it is it's hilarious you got
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your stick George yeah I want to go up against those machine guns without my stick dick
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[Laughter] I watched something old I watched something old this week that um has not
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aged a day um granted the special effects are obviously of their time but
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it doesn't take away from the from the product at all I watched Jurassic
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Park oh okay it is an excellent movie no matter how you look at it it is and then
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they started making sequels yeah I'm I tried to watch Jurassic world or
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whichever was the the first Chris Pratt one and it was just so soulless compared
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to the Spielberg one the sequel to that one makes zero sense cuz the SE second
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one is cuz the first one they escaped the island the second one is the
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Island's about to blow up due to volcanoes and the government's going no
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you can't go back and rescue them well why not yeah like it was illegal for
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people to go back and rescue the dinosaurs but then people went to the
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island and were kidnapping Don to sell and it just was weird yeah it made like
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zero sense I remember the sequels of the movies like the original ones cuz I read
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all the books by Michael cry going this is going to be great yeah yeah and then
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the sequels were nothing like the books no the third one was better than the
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second one but they were nothing like what they were meant to be but speaking
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of Michael kryon M um on sale this week on Xbox movies they had the original the
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a strein oh I haven't seen that for years neither have I of five bucks I've
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got I need this that was a movie I used to watch all the time yeah yeah yeah I
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was a I was a big fan of that I have a feeling it's going to be very dated cuz
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that was a 70s movie I think I think if it's dated it's going to be in its
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pacing I think you'll find it very slow yeah movies were a lot slower especially
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those kind of Thriller like political you know well especially with this one
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there's a whole big scene where it's just the female doctor watching results
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come up and she's just there smoking and she doesn't see the result because of a
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flashing red light which triggers her epilepsy that's right yeah oh
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spoilers for a movie from 50 years ago yeah I'm going to have to sit down and
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watch that one yeah but yeah I do have a feeling the painting is going to be a
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problem cuz I used to tell story a lot better back then yes
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sometimes like now that you've moved on it's hard to go back you can't go back
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but story used to be not just things exploding or people talking stuff just
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watching stuff and people going about their day was still progressing the
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story yeah it's true yeah and actually Jurassic Park is
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guilty of that too like all story stops while ever there's an action sequence
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which is usually something I'd criticize you know but Spielberg just does it so
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well that there's still character building and there's still
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nuance and everything in those scenes even if there's no plot It's s like
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Michael baay in Transformers where it's okay they're going to fight for 30
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minutes so you can switch off come back yeah Y and then they
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finish fighting and now we go back to story yeah that's
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right the person who does that the best is James Cameron and it's because he
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puts his Exposition scenes into his action scenes on purpose so that you
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won't get bored well now we get to watch Spot formal Avatar movies obiously I'm
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talking about them [ __ ] hell he filmed there's four more isn't there and
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they filmed two already or have they I don't know what I believe and what I don't
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believe it's really hard I can't when did he start this when did Avatar come
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out 2012 maybe I think about it was I
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yet it was a long long long time ago
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2009 2009 there you go yeah yep and
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pretty much straight away he was like well I'm just going to do more I I'm not
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making yeah not making any more movies everything's going to be in the Avatar
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universe and everyone's sort of gone it was a pretty movie yeah very pretty is
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there a four more movies in there cuz cuz actually by the end of the 2 and 1
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half hour run time I was like let's wrap this up you've said
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enough and are we going to have to go back to 3D again because it just it sort
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of came big and then went away but is now mean it's going to be back again is
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he doing it in 3D or that's true I haven't seen a 3D movie since you and I
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saw that 4D movie when we were in America I enjoyed that
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4 like that I think should take off more yeah skip 3D either give me 2D or just
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[ __ ] it go to 4D yep like I want the chair to move I want the sprays and I
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want to smell the toast yes it's all you can smell it's the same smell just over
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and over every time yeah but yeah so it comes out next year
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does it okay the sequel well let's I don't know I might enough time has
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passed that I might actually be curious to watch it now although I'm going to go
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watch the first one but I still just have a feeling that people who have paid
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for this are going to see what it does and then go why have we given you so
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much money yeah make one more
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first like yeah cuz I think he was filming two or three at the same time
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but there's going to be four and I don't know we'll find out I saw
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something interesting once or not once I saw something interesting this week that
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has an interesting kind of backstory
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right so I was with Dune coming out you
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know another film that we might not um ever see the sequel too I'm telling you
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they need to start filming it now so invested that they stop the fact that
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they've come out and said that uh oh there'll be heaps more Zend in the
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second one leads me leads me to believe that I know exactly where in the first
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book they've cut it in half right before her character Cheney comes into it um
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which means that's going to be a very very frustrating place to leave this
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story that's probably at why they did it there mhm yeah to really try like people
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are going to be dying for it I was s like it's if they if they are but it's
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premiered aten at the ven Film Festival this week right very mixed reviews some
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people are saying it's magnificent some people are saying
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it's um which for something that needs to be successful at the movies and
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something so off the beaten path of what we have now that's not good I think the
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people that don't like it probably are not on board with the kind of Space
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Opera genre which I'm already on board so I I feel I'm going to like this have
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to ruin that you're you're going to love it Matt's going to love it but the
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problem you have is is the general public going to like it cuz that's where
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you get the sequel yeah no exactly well let's not even start calling it a sequel
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the second half finish movie movie yeah
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yeah but um with with June coming out I realized that there was a few movies by
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Denny villain that I hadn't seen yet right and a lot of them are foreign
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language ones and you know kind of indie films from his days back in Canada but
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then there was sario which just kind of dropped off my radar so I gave it a
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watch and it's the premises heard of that one yeah look it's um it's got a
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good cast um but it's about kind of drug cartels down in Mexico and that's not
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really something within my sphere of what I seek out in terms of media so I
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think I just kind of Let It Go uh but I watched it um and it's excellent It's
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really really good yeah just great storytelling well-crafted film by
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denivan um and then I didn't know
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there's a sequel right so that sometimes cannot be a good thing was he part of
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the sequel he was not he was not he was not but a lot of the original cast word
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which is usually a good sign right so I checked it out and actually it's quite
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good right quite good falls apart a little bit at the end but there's one
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thing that really confused me and I'll give you a slight spoiler but it's not
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really a spoiler because it happens at the start of both films right so in
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sario Benito Del Toro is a Mexican guy
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working for the American CIA as you do and the reason he's working for them is
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because a CIA sorry is because a Mexican cartel boss killed his family so now he
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hates you know his own kind and now he's helping Americans right mhm and in the end of the
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film he kills he kills a crime boss gets his
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revenge movie over right y in the
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sequel he is still looking for the guy who killed his family but aren't they
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dead you would think so and so I thought okay I've missed something here and it's
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one of two scenarios either this is actually a prequel not a sequel mhm or
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it's some kind of theme of there's always a bigger fish you know you kill
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the guy you think did it but he wasn't even the guy giv the orders so there's
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still another or it's uh we want to make more money uh let's just gloss over the
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actual ending of the first one and just say he's still looking forward it it was
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that but there's a specific reason why and this blows my [ __ ] mind right so
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the writer of sakario mhm came to Warner or whoever it was
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that has produced these movies with two scripts right one called sakario and one
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called Sado right sario is the Spanish word for Hitman soldado is the Spanish
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word for Soldier right okay he said I've got two scripts they're about the same
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two characters a Gruff FBI a Gruff CIA
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operative and this Mexican guy whose cartel killed his family and now he
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works for the CIA right two completely different stories but written about the
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same character so the same backstory and everything happens in both scripts which
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one do you want if any and they said we'll have them both and when sakario
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did so well they were like we need a SE film the other one we'll just film the other
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one oh why not it could it would have taken them 10 minutes to just put in a little thing
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about oh that wasn't the right guy you didn't get the right man you know or
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something something just something to explain like I mean it would have been I
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think it's something they could do back then because back then you saw a movie once
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maybe twice like it wasn't like today where you can watch it 10 times on the
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same day and then you own it and you can rewatch rewatch back then it was you'd
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watched at the movies yeah then you might get the SE in television a year or
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two later and that was sort of it so I I I did some a deep dive into this to try
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to figure out like do they just think we're stupid like like how did they like
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at what point did they think no one's going to notice and apparently in the
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like the Press tour and everything they were selling it as this is a parallel
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universe to that first film they were sort of doing like the Mad Max thing
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exactly like these all these things might may or may not have happened in
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this world but I think it works for Mad Max because it is a legendary kind of
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story this is just telling a story this is just a movie yeah it's just a regular
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movie and the second movie is kind of like just
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no honestly back then they thought the audience used to accept a lot more AR
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they really did how how old are these ones let me see probably older than you think yeah
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maybe no 2015 oh 2015 oh no yeah okay no
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no yeah that was just yeah someone didn't actually realize what they were
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filming and just went go film this we want it now yeah yeah yeah yeah we want
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it now can can I just change one we want it now now just go and film it yeah
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apparently they went into production on the second one 1 month after the first
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one came out at the cinema so it was obviously a runaway hit no one expected
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to be a big hit andbody need more of this now I got another script right here
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right here you know a movie that they made a sequel to that I've yet to see
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that I've been trying to track down for a very long time yeah American
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Graffiti oh yes I never saw the sequel It's just called a more American Graffiti
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it's impossible to find I know almost
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nothing about this sequel in terms of does it does it have the same cast looks
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like there are some recurring yeah they do have some of the people come
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back doesn't look as good though but it's also sort of weird because at the
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end of American Graffiti they have the cards at the end
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going did this such and such did this that's true and then they made a
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sequel American Graffiti I think is another one of those movies where no one
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expected it to be as big as it was no look it's an Oscar winner it's it's
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George Lucas's only Oscar yeah so cuz he just come off Star Wars he actually got
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someone else someone else who wrote the screenplay for it first right and then
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he came and read it and it just felt like it was it was a hot rod movie Yes
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like cars and S of like no so he went back and rewrote it and this is where
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actually found out he doesn't like runting scri he doesn't like runting
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scripts I mean that's yeah I believe it
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y y i that's why he his one take on Phan and Menace is how we got that [ __ ]
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hell yeah his first draft on that yellow pad written in P yeah after they already
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started pre-production too but yeah I I still I still want to
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see it but it it's sort of a weird cuz it's not like it's a movie caching like
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came out year after it was like six years later this movie came out [Music]
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1979 I'm assuming Lucas had nothing to do with this oh I'd be very surprised
29:08
just based on characters by yeah produ oh production companies Lucas
29:14
film okay okay yeah it is and yeah it got some many people back
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like it got Ron Howard yeah I think there was a good period of time there
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where John Howard wasn't he'd stopped being a sord after actor and he hadn't
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yet become a sord after director yeah I think this is sort of that in between
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period um where it's uh I need to do something yeah this was directed by a
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guy called Bill L Norton written and directed who went on to be one of the
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staff Riders on Buffy the Vampire Slayer oh okay
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yeah but not much
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else he's the son of William W Norton who was convicted of importing arms to
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the Northern Ireland Ira okay as you do there you
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go so I watched a trailer just before we started recording oh yeah what was that
30:13
Spider-Man yeah no way home Oh you mean Spider-Man no way this is going to be
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good I just the whole idea of this movie just makes no sense to me why cuz the
30:24
whole it looks like so at the end of the last Spider-Man movie he gets altered as being
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Spider-Man yeah and then he goes to Doctor Strange he goes I don't want to
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be Spider-Man and then Doctor Strange does this weird spell that's going to go
30:37
haywa but I don't see why Doctor Strange would do this spell yeah well I mean
30:42
Doctor Strange has done stuff in the past that seems questionable and he's
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like you've just got to trust me on this this is the best possible outcome which
30:49
is a plotline they stole from June by the way uh the second Dune book uh where
30:55
Paul trady sees into the future and sees all the timelines and even though the
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one he chooses is the one where he genocides a whole race of people he's
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still like trust me that was the best one what are the other ones ex the one where he
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dies it's either I die or I kill everyone yeah yeah no you never find out
31:16
you never find out you just got to trust him you just got to trust [Laughter]
31:22
him um I watched it I L I might let you watch this one and report back to me
31:26
because honestly I I didn't think the last two I think love it I think Tom Holland
31:33
does a perfectly adequate job of Spider-Man in fact better than the last
31:37
guy not necessarily better than the guy before but I think his character works
31:41
very well in the Marvel movies the greater Marvel movies I'm not I'm not
31:47
sold on his Standalone films well it's sort of weird he's going from yeah so it
31:53
looks like he's going to have a closer relationship with Doctor Strange now
31:56
that Iron Man's gone WI but yeah spoilers he always needs big
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man after him but yeah I don't know it just seems
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weird I I'll go and watch it yeah watch I'm sure Matt will watch it as well
32:10
he'll enjoy it I don't know I just I thought the first Spider-Man was just
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okay and then I thought far from good
32:18
was awful and I think I'm going to miss him having that relationship with Tony
32:25
Stark I think yeah I mean that was really interesting part of it yeah like
32:29
they played well off each other yeah I don't give a [ __ ] about him like making
32:34
wise crafts with his chubby friend and like draing over that girl that you
32:39
would you would assume he had no chance with except that the actors are really
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dating in real life so you know why wouldn't he have a chance with
32:47
her cuz she's beautiful and he's like he's Rich he's not that rich no I mean
32:54
in the show he's not rich oh he's Spiderman in the show how is he makinging
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money well are we going with real life or in the show in the show he's
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Spiderman that's his that's his job but who pays him oh right that's that's how
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he gets the girls yeah yeah SPID yeah sh
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my web on you yeah it's web I swear why am I all
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sticky it's just web don't worry about
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it really more web yeah yeah more web
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web I'm going to web all right in here I just saw the
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crazi thing they're making a Rocketeer sequel um I'm all in for a Rocketeer
33:41
sequel because I love Rocketeer of all those old liveaction Disney movies is it
33:46
a sequel or is it a reboot cuz there's different things cuz
33:51
I it can't be a sequel to The Rocketeer can it an expansion of the Rocketeer
33:58
Concept in the original film a cocky young cocky young pilot finds an
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experimental prototype of Jetpack uses it to become a superhero yes so what's
34:07
this one going to be doesn't say it might say I think Matt might have
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put this in here and he probably knows more about it than me
34:17
ah then this was a terrible thing for us to discuss but probably sounds but
34:21
though if it is just going to be like a sequel there going to be sort of the
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same thing just sort of present day or that he finds someone goes in and
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finds this old Rocketeer stuff and but everyone
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uh I think it's going to be a new dude
34:40
yeah finding it and then becom yeah yeah it might even star the old Rocketeer guy
34:46
as an old man he goes now it's your turn is that is the rockety really
34:52
something you pass
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on be something you pass on I mean I I'll point out that that helmet
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got made overnight by his little friend who just made that because he needed
35:05
something with a something in the Ste yeah but I also think like it's going to
35:10
be a bit weird if they go and find this rocket like lying around like wouldn't
35:14
have people knew about The Rocketeer yeah where is that rocket where is that
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rocket yeah we we want that back now now we know it works we're going put
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development but you don't just have one right and like in the first one they
35:30
steal it from like Nazi scientists but it's like well they could have made more
35:34
yeah it's not like they've got one and that's it yeah I mean he can't build
35:38
another one he kills the guy who wanted to steal it but he didn't kill the guy
35:41
who invented it and patented it it's sort of like in the Batman movies with
35:45
the Tumblr like yeah how do they not know Bruce Wade like yeah hey I built
35:51
that thing yeah oh there's that Tumblr I
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built for we had to paint it black yeah
36:01
yeah but nope nope it's no one knows about it yeah and that is why there's no
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conspiracy theories cuz people can't be
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trusted no they can't if you got a conspiracy theory that involves that
36:18
would involve tens of thousands of people having to be on in on it yeah
36:22
they're not keeping that a secret no but I love Rocketeer
36:28
Rocketeer also starred Jennifer Connelly in like that kind
36:34
of just absolute Heyday of just being the most beautiful working actress in
36:39
Hollywood I just adored her there was this and dark city that came out a
36:43
couple of years apart I'm trying to remember rocket and I really can't for
36:47
some reason I remember watching it and liking it it's a Charming movie it's set
36:51
in the old timey days like kind of World War II era cuz there are Nazis yeah
36:56
there's Nazis and B planes and all of that cool stuff I mean if they made it
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today they'll definitely make it modern would it be a movie I should watch now
37:03
cuz to me I remember it being a kids movie it is it is a I'd call it a family
37:07
movie rather than yeah definitely there's no sex scenes or anything in it
37:11
but but it's family movie from the '90s where like people got shot and stuff you
37:15
know like there's real Stakes yeah cuz I yeah forgot back then yeah family movies
37:22
people got shot and killed yeah like Indiana Jones family movie Just murders
37:26
a person in Cold Blood walks away yeah that's right I mean
37:31
monkeys happened in Star Wars 2 to the point where they had to Recon that scene out of
37:37
it and then brought it back sort of sort of yeah sort of now they
37:42
both yeah I just said GW that was a really bad shot being a foot away hey
37:48
did you know that somebody has recently found an original print like a Cinema
37:55
Reel of the original Star Wars and done a transfer of it so you know there was
37:59
all these different versions out there I mean it's still unofficial you still got
38:03
to get it from the Pirate Bay but um somebody has a 4K transfer of the
38:08
original Cinema release of Star Wars probably look great and terrible
38:15
all at the same time yeah yeah yeah yeah cuz yeah some of the improvements they
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made are actually improvements yeah true yeah yeah and then there are others
38:24
which are tidying up mat paintings and stuff like that yeah that's right I
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still I still reckon Disney should just go look if you want it here it is yeah
38:33
just give us more money what I don't get is why they keep changing the colors of
38:36
things you know like there must be a reason that that but every version like
38:42
I mean the DVD version was kind of all bluish and in my head I still remember
38:48
the exact blue that the lightsaber was from when I was a kid and used to watch
38:53
it and none of the versions since have ever been that exact blue
38:58
again no well remember also that used to
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go white at some stages yes yes that's right yeah sometimes it just used to
39:06
look like light Yep this is all you're getting yeah
39:13
yes I also didn't realize until I mean not recently but one of my not so long
39:19
ago viewings that in the in Star Wars you never see the
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lightsaber oh maybe you do actually turn on and off yeah turn on and off
39:30
it's like a cut but you do when he walks in at the end and finds Vader yeah but
39:35
in the start where Luke's First turns it on it's a direct it is just a cut
39:39
because it you I've seen the making off and it's freeze and then they come in
39:44
clip it on and that's great and then Y and then you can also tell it's is they
39:49
he moves slightly you can never freeze no it's impossible I also think that
39:55
their original plan was that they w going to rotoscope it and they were made
39:59
out of something reflective and they were hoping it would just reflect a
40:01
whole lot of light and look really cool yeah and it just looked like a stick
40:06
yeah yeah you get get what you need get what you need hey hey
40:12
buddy stuff happening behind me getting baby stuff getting baby stuff well I'm
40:17
in the baby room only this one corner of the baby room is still my
40:22
study for now well for as long for as long well the baby doesn't live in here
40:26
yet it lives in my room yeah but I'm saying that the baby will at one stage
40:31
it comes in here and that'll be the baby's room well not the baby room it'll
40:34
be your child yeah there just be a sign on the door saying no boys allowed yeah
40:39
and Dad I'm trying to sleep yeah yeah no one cares about your stupid old man
40:45
podcast no one's listening I was young and cool when we started this you were
40:51
younger and you were never cool yeah we were younger we weren't young
40:58
yeah well we were talking about Triple J earlier not on the podcast I don't think
41:04
did did you put this in what where oh ABC yeah ABC but this is ABC news right
41:11
this is on uh TV news not radio news um randomly
41:16
cut to a Satanic ritual and then cut back so news anchor
41:23
woman throws to a political scene that shows two politicians talking
41:27
and then that clip ends and then just before it cuts back to her it cuts to
41:32
what looks like some kind of Satanist and he says hail Satan and then it cuts
41:37
back to her she looks slightly confused and then decides to just ignore it and
41:42
and continue from where it's meant to be yeah that's probably the best thing but
41:47
how does that accidentally I don't know what story do they have that
41:53
for um cuz I'm watching it now and it feels like it's just they've hired out
41:59
like a school hall or something yeah I know there's a lot of money in the sness church you
42:05
know they've got their upside down cross they're wearing capes and they're
42:10
playing a Casio Keyboard but the look on this anchor
42:15
woman's face when it cuts back yeah what yeah and also that upside down cross
42:20
looks like it's on fire but I think it's like an LED I think it's just like LED
42:24
lights in the shape of an inverted cross
42:28
yeah so it must be for a story yeah an
42:32
unrelated story yeah like
42:36
cuz but what type of story would that
42:41
be yeah especially the the clip was queued up right where the guy goes hail
42:46
Satan I think I didn't make that up did I no hail Satan and even like even when
42:53
you listen to it it's he's not very confident in his hail Satan so hey satan
43:00
yeah he seems very nervous I also think that that keyboard player as you pointed
43:04
out there is like a Cassio keyboard there I I have a feeling she's not a
43:07
Satanist and she's just been hired as a session musician to come she G she's
43:11
given 50 bucks come in play some music for us she's just she's wearing like a tank top and
43:19
shorts I wonder if we'll get to find out what it is uh people of course on the
43:24
internet um have come out and said this is no accident what
43:30
conspiracy oh the ABC's in and they made a deal with the devil that's correct
43:36
correct ABC want to have zero money look if anyone was going to need
43:43
make a deal with the devil it'll be the ABC their funding gets cut every new
43:46
government I also think they've made a terrible deal cuz these satanists don't
43:50
look like they've got anything going for them either no no no some
43:57
like they might there might be some free teen cookies at the back but that's about
44:02
it when I was a kid I don't know if we only had ABC or whether my parents just
44:08
only wanted me to watch ABC but ABC was pretty much the only channel that was on
44:11
in my house it sort of that was the only thing that really had stuff on for us
44:14
when we were a kid like there was Doctor Who which I used to watch every day and
44:20
super super Ted oh yeah banana man banana man yeah when Eric eats the
44:26
banana I know he turns into banana B what he turns into a grown
44:32
man that is problematic I love in super Ted though
44:39
super Ted was great it made no sense [ __ ] alien comes down brings to life
44:43
a teddy bear with Cosmic dust a defective teddy bear too one that was
44:47
thrown out yep and now they they fight a
44:52
bunch of bad guys including a skeleton a
44:55
skeleton who is in incredibly gay yes oh
45:02
Tex great great content for kids but um only only people who watched the ABC in
45:09
Australia in the80s will remember Peter
45:11
Russell Clark who was um TV chef right
45:16
and he had a he had a a cooking show that was on for 5 minutes a day it was
45:21
on from 7:25 till 7:30 what I think I remember this cuz ABC had no ads right
45:27
so the shows went for the length they were not the length they were meant to
45:31
be patted out with ads right so there was always a need for little shorts and
45:35
things to go after the shows so they had this thing called Peter Russell Clark um
45:41
cooking show and he taught how to make things like cheese on toast right it
45:45
like wasn't complicated stuff but I only
45:49
minutes my bedtime I I didn't know what what time was I didn't know what clocks
45:54
I knew my was after Peter Russell Clark so yeah that that that makes it nice and
46:00
easy yeah yeah finish watching the end credits like with Peter good day Russell
46:05
gay Clark and then i' be like right that's me
46:11
done what else do we have but we can talk about China and we can talk about
46:15
kanyer West all right China yeah let's do China China has about gaming as well
46:22
yeah it's gaming related um or not it's the opposite it's anti-gaming related
46:27
really e China have put a limit oh my God on how much
46:34
gaming young people can do in a week so if you're under 18 you're not allowed to
46:40
game for more than 3 hours a week three hours a
46:45
week that that's cruel yeah yeah cuz I'm like a working father with a child and a
46:52
family and even I managed to play more than 3 hours a
46:55
week I could understand if they putting a limmit on of like 3 hours a
47:00
day that's right or like blocked during
47:03
school hours or yeah but 3 hours a week is that's quite intense isn't it they
47:10
limit under 18 to playing for 1 hour a day 8:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. on Fridays
47:15
Saturdays and Sundays only oh wow so you can't play it all
47:20
during the week and then you can play an hour a day Friday an hour a day Saturday
47:25
hour you can't go like to play for a block cuz imagine if you're playing like
47:29
Fallout 4 or The Witcher or something where you want to get in and then wow I
47:34
wonder how they enforce something like this stuff why would often say to me
47:37
like she's like oh I'm going to cook din I want and you pop the Xbox on for a bit
47:41
and I'm like I'm not putting the Xbox on for 35 minutes although there's been a couple
47:47
of games that have come out recently that I started playing there's one
47:49
called split gate split gate so it feels like um it's sort of a free shooter game
47:56
first person game and so you run around with guns but you also got portals oh
48:01
okay so you can sort of flip around um I've been playing that a little bit it
48:06
came out this week of something and it's fun playing with people oh okay and I'm
48:13
somehow good at it well I mean I'm not surprised about that that somehow might
48:18
might be leading to why it's a bit more fun but yeah that that was a bit
48:22
interesting but that that you could load up play one or two matches and then log off
48:27
I've been playing something kind of similar to this on the Xbox and I don't
48:30
know if you've noticed cuz you tend to know what I have been
48:33
playing sometimes I see you on there sometimes I'm more focused on what I'm
48:39
doing I could find out yeah go on all right uh give me a second I always
48:44
forget where my friends link is cu I don't go there often go here you were
48:50
right by the way [ __ ] halfway through Blair Witch Project bam disappeared
48:55
they're like would you like to purchase this I was like no would not like to
48:58
purchase it thank you I told you I warned you you warned me the day before
49:03
it left I tried to play the very next day gone Doom I was hoping you were
49:07
wrong yeah I've been playing Doom I've been playing the Doom original from
49:13
1993 because I was up super late I needed to just put something on I didn't
49:18
have to think about cuz I was super tired and I just needed to stay up to
49:22
watch a baby and I also had to have the sound down low enough that I wasn't
49:26
waking anyone up yeah and I was just scrolling through Game Pass and I saw
49:30
doom and I was like yeah let's do this so I've been playing [ __ ] Doom old
49:37
Doom it's still fun yeah just run around and shoot things and it's weird because like you
49:43
can't you can't tilt up and down right but if someone's up on a balcony you
49:48
just you shoot and they they they get hit I remember playing this one and I
49:52
got stuck at a bit cuz I couldn't work out how to get across this ledge jump
49:56
thing you can't jump or anything no you just run and you justed acoss that took
50:03
me about 20 minutes to remember how to do yeah yeah same same yeah yeah yeah
50:08
it's like that's a step how do I get up there just go towards it just walk yep
50:13
yeah yeah no jumping no yeah up or down if if they're above you you just shoot
50:19
that direction and the bullets work it out all below you shoot out a window
50:25
it'll get the guy yeah if your left and right pan is correct you'll you'll shoot
50:29
him yep which is very hard to try and just let go of I don't have to aim
50:35
directly at them just in their general area yeah yeah I remember this game
50:40
being a lot more difficult I know there's difficulty
50:45
levels but it's just the amount of enemies that there are and also like you
50:50
can actually for a lot of levels just run past them allall yeah yeah if you
50:54
know the way you know where exit just run straight there that's right it's
50:58
true yeah it was only later where they even made games where they wanted you to
51:03
explore the world more yes like the big one for me was J Nukem 3D where there
51:09
was just so much hidden and so nuanced details in that world and then you'd
51:13
also have to like and because I wasn't lazy or anything but you to save them
51:19
time so they didn't have to build you'd have to go here and then you go back
51:22
where you just were yeah you got the clean house and now you can go here and
51:27
so you sort of replaying the level where it's now it's just keep going forward
51:31
yeah I think there's like a like four levels in or something on Doom there's a
51:34
there's a door right where you first spawn in that's locked and you're like
51:39
oh great I'm going to have to come all the way back here at some point see now
51:45
you would hate that back then that was fun absolutely fine now it's I don't
51:49
want to come back here I don't want to have to search for a key was Quake the
51:53
first game where you could look up and down I think it was that was like the
51:58
first 3D like where proper 3D where you could actually like be upstairs and
52:04
downstairs yes cuz I think even in Duke 3D they they lied about
52:10
their 3D yeah yeah although you could get a
52:15
jetpack in Duke 3D so you could go up but I I don't know if you could
52:19
necessarily aim with that same it's a
52:24
very long time ago what Juke 3D came out in
52:30
1996 oh God Quake came out
52:34
in 96 same year okay yep our former host
52:40
would um answers yeah yep us no no did you
52:46
ever see that book that he self-published on the art of Quake no h
52:51
can I buy it on like somewhere for a dollar no h let me let me see if it is
52:57
available it would be interesting if it was Art of Quake cuz that's what a lot of lot of
53:03
people s publish it you can buy them like a publication for like a dollar let
53:08
me see the art of Quake hard cover David
53:11
WR rule hard cover currently
53:16
unavailable on Amazon let me check a
53:20
books there's also a David r.co do.uk
53:27
lot of Quake shopping and then just because of the key words this is a
53:31
hilarious sentence weak ankled David in urgent need of Quake proofing that's an
53:38
article about Michelangelo's statue of
53:42
David but ironically when David jumped
53:45
off Second Story broke both his angles no I'm looking in shopping I
53:52
can't seem to find it I thought there might have been like a a p uation of it
53:58
yes there is not we can't go David in
54:02
urgent need of Quake proofing it's like don't play Quake anymore your ankles are
54:08
too weak oh we should put it back online cuz
54:13
you know we just giving him a shout out yeah now this is where the money starts
54:18
to roll in yeah who was the developer of
54:21
Quake at ID back in uh John karmac John karmac I believe
54:27
John Kack has a copy of this book or was it John Romero I'm thinking of John
54:32
Romero yeah there's two of them on there yeah there's two John's one of them
54:36
washes the other doesn't I don't know which one is which
54:41
actually to be pretty sure John karmac washes I'm pretty sure John
54:45
Romero yeah I don't know I know John K at least washes his hair and John Romero
54:50
definitely doesn't wash his hair
54:53
yeah yeah I could be wrong yeah no you're right but I just get that
54:59
feeling but also Steve Jobs didn't wash no that's true uh he might have sent him
55:03
copy to to both he might have sent one to American McGee as well for all I know I don't
55:08
know but I know he did send one to uh John Romero back in he would have one
55:14
the carac as well surely yeah I assume we're allowed to talk
55:18
about this say we're not right it's it's on Amazon yeah it's a book it's a book
55:25
yeah are we talk are we allowed to talk about developers hygiene
55:30
levels look if you don't wash that becomes the world's problem and we have
55:36
right to discuss it with Steve Jobs when he worked at Atari they put him on the
55:40
night shift because people would complain about his hygiene yeah we had a
55:43
guy like that at SPS that we just had so many complaints and at one stage we
55:49
bought a bottle of deodorant and left it on his desk didn't get it didn't get it
55:54
didn't get it and um then we had to kind of argue about who
55:59
was going to tell him and it's a hard conversation to have yeah dude you stink
56:05
yeah no one wants to stink I'd rather be told I was ugly than I smelled bad you
56:11
know what I mean cuz it's one of these weird ones like you have this
56:14
conversation do you know how when you come into work and there's that weird
56:16
smell that you complain about that's you yeah no I don't I can't smell it yeah
56:23
everyone else can everyone else can and it is just a shame there are some
56:28
people like that I want to be told though before it gets to that point you
56:33
definitely want to know I want to close friend to say are you aware that you smell
56:38
bad now I'm worried I smell bad I told you long before now if you did thank you
56:44
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