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Mega Edition: The New Mexico Epstein Commission Interim Report (Part 12-16) (10/21/26) · The Vault: The Epstein Files

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Speaker 1: What's up everyone and welcome back to the program. In
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Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to jump right back in to
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Speaker 1: the New Mexico Interim Report detailing Jeffrey Epstein's crimes and
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Speaker 1: behavior in the state of New Mexico. The U.S. Attorney's
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Speaker 1: Office for the District of New Mexico. The United States
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Speaker 1: has 93 U.S. Attorney's Offices that serve the 94 federal
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Speaker 1: judicial districts. including all 50 states, the District of Columbia,
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Speaker 1: Puerto Rico, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, and the Northern
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Speaker 1: Mariana Islands. Each office is led by a U.S. attorney
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Speaker 1: who answers to the Attorney General of the United States
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Speaker 1: and acts as the chief federal law enforcement officer in
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Speaker 1: their district and represents the federal government in both criminal
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Speaker 1: prosecutions and civil litigation. Nicknamed the Sovereign District of New
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Speaker 1: York by U.S. attorneys across the country, The Southern District
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Speaker 1: of New York is widely considered the foremost U.S. Attorney's
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Speaker 1: Office and is known for its independence, influence, and ability
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Speaker 1: to prosecute the biggest and most complex cases. STNY ranks
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Speaker 1: high in prestige at the U.S. Department of Justice, reflecting
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Speaker 1: that standing in 1983, Rudy Giuliani, as Associate Attorney General
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Speaker 1: of the United States, the third highest ranking official at
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Speaker 1: the U.S. Department of Justice, was promoted to U.S. Attorney
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Speaker 1: for the Southern District of New York. On paper, the
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Speaker 1: authorities and responsibilities of each of these 93 U.S. attorneys
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Speaker 1: are equal. U.S. attorneys serve as the Chief Federal Law
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Speaker 1: Enforcement Officer and Principal Litigator in their respective judicial districts,
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Speaker 1: holding core statutory power over criminal prosecution, civil litigation, and
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Speaker 1: debt collection. Nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate,
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Speaker 1: They're backed up by the full force of the U.S.
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Speaker 1: Department of Justice and almost unlimited resources and capabilities of
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Speaker 1: the FBI and a number of other federal investigative services.
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Speaker 1: With regard to criminal prosecutions, the U.S. Attorney has the
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Speaker 1: authority to initiate, investigate, and prosecute federal crimes such as fraud,
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Speaker 1: public corruption, and sex trafficking within the state of New Mexico.
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Speaker 1: The U.S. Attorney also has authority to institute civil action
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Speaker 1: including civil forfeiture actions, which can be brought to seize
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Speaker 1: property that constitutes an instrumentality or proceeds of a crime.
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Speaker 1: The U.S. Attorney also holds power to issue subpoenas, summon
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Speaker 1: grand juries, and present evidence to secure indictments. The U.S.
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Speaker 1: Attorney directs and coordinates multi-agency federal investigations alongside law enforcement
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Speaker 1: entities like the FBI, DEA, and ATF. Operating under the
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Speaker 1: oversight of the U.S. Attorney General and the Department of Justice,
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Speaker 1: each U.S. attorney retains significant localized independence to set prosecutorial priorities. Ordinarily,
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Speaker 1: a U.S. attorney reports directly to the U.S. Deputy Attorney General. U.S.
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Speaker 1: attorneys are appointed by the President of the United States
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Speaker 1: for a term of four years, with appointment subject to
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Speaker 1: confirmation by the Senate. A U.S. attorney continues in office
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Speaker 1: beyond the appointed term until a successor is appointed and qualified.
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Speaker 1: By law, each United States Attorney is subject to removal
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Speaker 1: by the President. The Attorney General has had the authority
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Speaker 1: since 1986 to appoint interim U.S. Attorneys to fill a vacancy.
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Speaker 1: The U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of New Mexico
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Speaker 1: is staffed by 150 prosecutors and support professionals with offices
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Speaker 1: located in Albuquerque and Las Cruces. The Investigation of Epstein
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Speaker 1: by U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of Florida From
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Speaker 1: March 2005 through February 2006, the Palm Beach Police Department
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Speaker 1: conducted an investigation into whether Epstein and others recruited underage
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Speaker 1: females for purposes of engaging in sexual activity for money.
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Speaker 1: In July of 2006, the FBI's Miami Field Office adopted
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Speaker 1: this investigation and and began its own child sexual exploitation
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Speaker 1: investigation of Epstein. The FBI conducted interviews of numerous witnesses
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Speaker 1: and collected evidence in support of its investigation of a
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Speaker 1: number of federal offenses, including knowingly and willfully conspiring with
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Speaker 1: others known and unknown to commit an offense against the
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Speaker 1: United States, that is, to use a facility or means
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Speaker 1: of interstate or foreign commerce to knowingly persuade, induce, or
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Speaker 1: entice minor females to engage in prostitution in violation of
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Speaker 1: Title 18 U.S. Code Section 2422B, all in violation of
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Speaker 1: Title 18 U.S. Code Section 371, knowingly and willfully conspiring
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Speaker 1: with others known and unknown to travel and interstate commerce
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Speaker 1: for the purpose of engaging in illicit conduct, as defined
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Speaker 1: in U.S. Code 18 Section 2423F, with minor females in
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Speaker 1: violation of Title 18 U.S. U.S. Code Section 2423B. All
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Speaker 1: in violation of Title 18 U.S. Code Section 2423E. Using
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Speaker 1: a facility or means of interstate or foreign commerce to
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Speaker 1: knowingly persuade, induce, or entice minor females to engage in
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Speaker 1: prostitution in violation of Title 18 U.S. Code Section 2422B
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Speaker 1: and 2. Traveling in interstate commerce for the purpose of
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Speaker 1: engaging in illicit sexual conduct as defined in U.S. Code 18,
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Speaker 1: Section 2423F, with minor females, in violation of Title 18, U.S.
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Speaker 1: Code Section 2423B, and, knowingly, in an affecting interstate and
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Speaker 1: foreign commerce recruiting, enticing, and obtaining, by any means a person,
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Speaker 1: knowing that the person had not attained the age of
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Speaker 1: 18 years, and would be caused to engage in a
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Speaker 1: commercial sex act, as defined in U.S. Code 18, Section 1591C,
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Speaker 1: in violation of Title 18, U.S. Code Section 1591, A
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Speaker 1: and 1 and 2. As part of its investigation, the
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Speaker 1: FBI conducted an interview of a minor female on November 28, 2006.
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Speaker 1: The interview was conducted in Austin, Texas. Jane Doe stated
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Speaker 1: that she met Epstein in Phoenix through her sister, who
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Speaker 1: worked for him in New York. Jane Doe was in
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Speaker 1: her junior year of high school at the time. Epstein
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Speaker 1: invited her to travel to New York. Epstein offered to
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Speaker 1: assist Jane Doe with her college applications and tuition fees.
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Speaker 1: Epstein purchased airfare from Phoenix to New York. Jane Doe
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Speaker 1: flew to New York and stayed with her sister in
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Speaker 1: the West Village. Jane Doe and her sister met Epstein
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Speaker 1: at his residence where he offered them a bottle of champagne.
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Speaker 1: Epstein took them to see Phantom of the Opera and
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Speaker 1: on the way offered more champagne. At a later time,
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Speaker 1: Epstein took them to see a movie. During the movie,
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Speaker 1: Epstein held and caressed her hand, which made her feel uncomfortable. Later, Epstein,
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Speaker 1: or Maxwell, purchased an airline ticket for her to fly
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Speaker 1: to Santa Fe, New Mexico, and when she arrived in
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Speaker 1: Santa Fe, the Zorro Ranch manager picked her up. When
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Speaker 1: she arrived at the ranch, there were some discussions about
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Speaker 1: where she was going to stay on the property, and
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Speaker 1: Epstein made it clear she'd be staying with them. She
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Speaker 1: was the only guest at that ranch, During her visit,
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Speaker 1: Epstein and Maxwell took her to town for some shopping.
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Speaker 1: During the evening, Epstein asked if she would provide him
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Speaker 1: with a foot massage. Maxwell gave a demonstration. Jane Doe
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Speaker 1: then gave Epstein a foot massage. Maxwell later asked Jane
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Speaker 1: Doe to undress so that Maxwell could give her a massage.
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Speaker 1: Jane Doe removed her clothing, leaving only her underwear on.
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Speaker 1: Maxwell completed the massage by rubbing her upper body, including
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Speaker 1: her breasts. The next morning, Epstein came into Jane Doe's
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Speaker 1: room and got into bed with her under the covers.
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Speaker 1: They were both dressed. Later that night, they went to
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Speaker 1: a movie during which Epstein stroked and caressed her hand
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Speaker 1: and put his hand on Jane Doe's thigh. Later that night,
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Speaker 1: Epstein came into Jane Doe's room, sat on her bed,
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Speaker 1: stroked Jane Doe's hair, and told her how beautiful she was.
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Speaker 1: On February 13, 2007, the FBI interviewed Bryce Gordon at
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Speaker 1: Zorro Ranch. Gordon stated that he and his wife had
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Speaker 1: been managing the ranch for approximately four years. He stated
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Speaker 1: that there were five or six full-time employees at the ranch,
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Speaker 1: as well as some seasonal employees. He also stated that
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Speaker 1: Epstein spent approximately 50 days a year at the ranch,
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Speaker 1: staying usually for two to three week stretches, and provided
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Speaker 1: only two days notice before arriving. Gordon stated that Epstein
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Speaker 1: was usually accompanied by his personal assistant, his bodyguard, friends,
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Speaker 1: personal trainer, and sometimes as masseuses. He stated that the
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Speaker 1: masseuses were not normally flown to the ranch, but were
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Speaker 1: hired by Gordon and another whose name was redacted and
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Speaker 1: who kept the financial records and usually arranged the massages.
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Speaker 1: Gordon stated that the names of the masseuses were usually
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Speaker 1: obtained from 10,000 Waves Day Spa or by referrals, and
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Speaker 1: that they were all checked out and were professionally licensed
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Speaker 1: massage therapists. He stated that they had used approximately five
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Speaker 1: different massage therapists. Before Gordon was able to share payment
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Speaker 1: records with the FBI, he received a call from the
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Speaker 1: main office, which told him he was no longer permitted
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Speaker 1: to speak to the FBI. On September 24, 2007, the U.S.
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Speaker 1: Attorney's Office for the Southern District of Florida, then headed
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Speaker 1: by U.S. Attorney Alexander Acosta, entered into a non-prosecution agreement
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Speaker 1: agreeing to dismiss and not further prosecute Epstein, Groff, and
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Speaker 1: others whose names had been redacted for any of the
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Speaker 1: above-referenced federal offenses provided that Epstein plead guilty to a
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Speaker 1: Florida state charge of solicitation of prostitution and subject to
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Speaker 1: certain sentencing parameters and other conditions. To date, the commission
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Speaker 1: has been unable to obtain any information as to whether
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Speaker 1: the FBI or any other investigative agency conducted any further
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Speaker 1: investigation into potentially unlawful conduct by Epstein or at Zorro
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Speaker 1: Ranch following the interview of Bryce Gordon in February of 2007.
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Speaker 1: It's unknown at this time whether information obtained by the
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Speaker 1: FBI or In its 2006, seven investigation of Epstein and
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Speaker 1: others was shared with any New Mexico U.S. attorney. All right, folks,
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Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here. And in the
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Speaker 1: next episode, we're going to pick up with the SDNY's
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Speaker 1: 2018-19 investigation of Jeffrey Epstein. All the information that goes
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Speaker 1: with this episode can be found in the description box.
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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the
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Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
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Speaker 1: the New Mexico Interim Report on Jeffrey Epstein and his
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Speaker 1: behavior in crimes in New Mexico. SDNY's 2018-19 investigation into Epstein.
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Speaker 1: In 2018, the FBI, SDNY, and the New York Police
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Speaker 1: Department opened a child sexual exploitation investigation of Epstein and others.
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Speaker 1: This investigation culminated in an indictment returned by a federal
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Speaker 1: grand jury in New York City. This indictment alleged that
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Speaker 1: from at least 2002 through at least 2005, Jeffrey Epstein
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Speaker 1: enticed and recruited and caused to be enticed and recruited
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Speaker 1: dozens of minor girls to visit his mansions in New
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Speaker 1: York and his estate in Palm Beach, Florida to engage
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Speaker 1: in sex acts with him after which he would give
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Speaker 1: his victims hundreds of dollars in cash in order to
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Speaker 1: maintain and increase his supply of victims Epstein also paid
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Speaker 1: certain victims to recruit additional underage girls, whom he could
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Speaker 1: similarly abuse. In this way, Epstein created a vast network
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Speaker 1: of underage victims for him to sexually exploit, often on
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Speaker 1: a daily basis, in locations including New York and Palm Beach.
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Speaker 1: The indictment does not allege conduct by Epstein occurring in
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Speaker 1: New Mexico. Epstein was charged with sex trafficking of three
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Speaker 1: minor victims in violation of U.S. Code Section and Conspiracy
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Speaker 1: and Violation of U.S. Code 18, Section 371. At this time,
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Speaker 1: the Commission is unaware of any information showing that a U.S.
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Speaker 1: Attorney for the District of New Mexico took any action
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Speaker 1: with regard to Epstein prior to U.S. Attorney John Anderson
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Speaker 1: doing so in 2019. By letter dated May 14, 2019,
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Speaker 1: New Mexico Deputy Attorney General Clara Moran said, reached out
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Speaker 1: to U.S. Attorney John Anderson. She stated, It's my understanding
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Speaker 1: that federal prosecutors are seeking to identify victims who may
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Speaker 1: have been trafficked or sexually exploited by Jeffrey Epstein and
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Speaker 1: others at his ranch in Stanley, New Mexico. She advised
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Speaker 1: that the Office of the Attorney General has been actively
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Speaker 1: engaged in an ongoing investigation and review of the matter,
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Speaker 1: which may also include a referral of certain criminal matters
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Speaker 1: within the exclusive statutory authority of the federal government. She
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Speaker 1: asked to arrange a meeting to de-conflict on sensitive law
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Speaker 1: enforcement matters and discuss possible strategies to streamline investigation and charging.
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Speaker 1: John Anderson responded by letter dated May 17, 2019, stating
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Speaker 1: that his office certainly supports your investigation and review of
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Speaker 1: these matters and we are happy to receive any information
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Speaker 1: you may wish to share as it relates to offenses
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Speaker 1: related over which this office may have exclusive jurisdiction. He
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Speaker 1: advised that at this time, however, we are not in
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Speaker 1: a position to share any information relating to these matters
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Speaker 1: or discuss any possible coordination. On August 16, 2019, an
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Speaker 1: assistant U.S. attorney for the District of New Mexico reached
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Speaker 1: out to the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District
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Speaker 1: of New York regarding New Mexico-related Epstein matters. A follow-up
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Speaker 1: email was sent again, hoping to schedule a follow-up call
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Speaker 1: with you concerning Epstein's New Mexico conduct and property sometime
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Speaker 1: this week. A call was set up for September 12, 2019,
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Speaker 1: and the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of
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Speaker 1: New York advised, we spoke with the New Mexico AG's
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Speaker 1: office back in 2019. In essence, they agreed to cease
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Speaker 1: any investigation into sex trafficking and share whatever they have
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Speaker 1: gathered with to date regarding sex trafficking activity with our office.
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Speaker 1: We agreed that they were free to proceed with whatever
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Speaker 1: other investigation unrelated to sex trafficking they may have concerning
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Speaker 1: Epstein and told them that at the conclusion of our case,
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Speaker 1: we'd pass along any information we may have gathered about
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Speaker 1: state crimes that were committed in their jurisdiction. We have
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Speaker 1: not communicated with anyone from the New Mexico AG's office
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Speaker 1: since that conversation in 2019. On October 11th, 2019, USAONM
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Speaker 1: sent SDNY an email stating, when we last spoke, you
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Speaker 1: expressed a willingness to review New Mexico-specific questions that we
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Speaker 1: would like to be included in future interviews of Epstein victims.
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Speaker 1: While I'm certain that you already covered the pertinent questions,
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Speaker 1: we did not want to turn down the invitation to
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Speaker 1: submit a set of proposed questions which I have attached.
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Speaker 1: As we mentioned on the phone, We are here to
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Speaker 1: assist with any investigation into New Mexico-related matters, including the
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Speaker 1: submission of any application for a search warrant. Attorney General
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Speaker 1: Hector Balderas wrote John Anderson on October 15, 2019. He
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Speaker 1: pointed out that his office has been actively investigating and
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Speaker 1: assisting other state and federal agencies with their investigation related
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Speaker 1: to criminality perpetrated in New Mexico by Jeffrey Epstein. He
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Speaker 1: advised that they had been in communication with Assistant United
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Speaker 1: States Attorney for Southern District of New York and have
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Speaker 1: provided them with material supportive of their federal investigation and
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Speaker 1: allegations of misconduct by Epstein's possible conspirators. He also requested
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Speaker 1: that the U.S. Attorney's Office explore initiating the process to
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Speaker 1: seize Epstein's New Mexico land holdings for the eventual benefit
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Speaker 1: of survivors of these acts and the people of the
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Speaker 1: state of New Mexico. On November 19th, 2019, the USAO
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Speaker 1: NM again reached out to the SDNY seeking to set
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Speaker 1: up a call to discuss the reporting concerning Jane Doe 15,
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Speaker 1: who had reported that she had been sexually assaulted by
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Speaker 1: Epstein on Zorro Ranch. That designation and SDNY's own numbering
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Speaker 1: and does not correspond to the commission's Jane Doe 1
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Speaker 1: through 5. On July 15th, 2020, the USAO NM again
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Speaker 1: reached out to the SDNY. We were pleased to see
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Speaker 1: that conduct in New Mexico formed the basis of one
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Speaker 1: of your overt acts. I know that you all are
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Speaker 1: very busy, but if you have a moment for a
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Speaker 1: brief call to discuss the impact, if any, on the
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Speaker 1: new indictment on seizure forfeiture of Epstein's New Mexico property,
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Speaker 1: I would appreciate it. As you are aware, this is
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Speaker 1: an issue my U.S. attorney, John Anderson, has asked me
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Speaker 1: to track. The District of New Mexico has sought to
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Speaker 1: arrange follow-up calls again on July 20th, 2020, May 4th, 2021,
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Speaker 1: and May 5th, 2021. It's not fully clear from the
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Speaker 1: available documentation what exactly was discussed during any calls. The
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Speaker 1: USAO NM explicitly offered to assist SDNY with a search
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Speaker 1: warrant application for Zorro Ranch. No application was submitted. No
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Speaker 1: search occurred until March 10th, 2026, nearly seven years later,
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Speaker 1: and not by federal, but rather by state authorities. The
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Speaker 1: commission has been unable to locate any documentation showing why
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Speaker 1: SDNY did not seek a search warrant at Zorro Ranch.
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Speaker 1: USAO-NM deferred investigation of Epstein to SDNY. The commission's investigation
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Speaker 1: of USAO-NM's failure to investigate and prosecute Epstein and his
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Speaker 1: co-conspirators for child sex trafficking was has been significantly undermined
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Speaker 1: by the refusal of the U.S. Attorney's Office and other
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Speaker 1: DOJ components to fully comply with the Commission subpoenas. By
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Speaker 1: letter dated June 30, 2026, First Assistant U.S. Attorney Ryan
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Speaker 1: Ellison partially responded to the Commission subpoena and request for
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Speaker 1: records under United States 2E v. Reagan, 340 U.S. 462-1951,
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Speaker 1: producing 31 records, and providing links to 18 documents made
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Speaker 1: available under the EFTA. The redacted records provided did not
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Speaker 1: fully answer the commission's subpoena. The records included a November 18,
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Speaker 1: 2019 Albuquerque Journal article, an August 21, 2019 press release
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Speaker 1: issued by Bill Richardson, an October 15, 2019 letter, from
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Speaker 1: New Mexico Attorney General Hector Balderas to U.S. Attorney John Anderson,
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Speaker 1: a May 14, 2019 letter from New Mexico Deputy Attorney
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Speaker 1: General Clara Moran to U.S. Attorney John Anderson, May 17,
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Speaker 1: 2019 letter from John Anderson to Clara Moran, a redacted
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Speaker 1: email chain dated August 21, 2019, a redacted email chain
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Speaker 1: between the New Mexico Attorney General's Office and the U.S.
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Speaker 1: Attorney's Office and a number of corporate filings made by
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Speaker 1: Cypress Incorporated in the U.S. Virgin Islands. In his letter
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Speaker 1: response to the commission subpoena and to a request, First
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Speaker 1: Assistant U.S. Attorney Ryan Ellison explained, We have confirmed that
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Speaker 1: the USAO, DNM, did not lead or handle the investigation
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Speaker 1: and therefore neither collected nor retained any investigative material. Instead,
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Speaker 1: the USAO DNM was directed to refer the matter to
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Speaker 1: USAO SDNY for investigation. Our file is therefore limited, consisting
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Speaker 1: mostly of transmittal material and material collected from the public domain.
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Speaker 1: The USAO NM failed to fully respond to the commission's
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Speaker 1: subpoena without additional documented understanding as to the office decision-making.
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Speaker 1: It's unknown at this time why USAO-NM failed to bring
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Speaker 1: charges against Epstein stemming from his conduct in New Mexico.
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Speaker 1: New Mexico Attorney General Authorities and Investigation The New Mexico
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Speaker 1: Attorney General serves as the state's chief legal and law
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Speaker 1: enforcement officer. Their primary power includes providing legal counsel to
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Speaker 1: state agencies, representing the state in civil and appellate cases,
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Speaker 1: enforcing consumer protection, and antitrust laws. and prosecuting complex white-collar
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Speaker 1: public corruption. And Medicaid fraud crimes. While local district attorneys
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Speaker 1: handle most local crime, the Attorney General has concurrent jurisdiction
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Speaker 1: over specific matters, including human trafficking, securities fraud, and governmental
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Speaker 1: conduct violation. They can also step in to prosecute if
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Speaker 1: a district attorney fails to act or is referred to
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Speaker 1: a case by the governor. Investigation of sex trafficking and
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Speaker 1: other crimes on Zorro Ranch would have been within the
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Speaker 1: ambit of the Attorney General's authority. New Mexico Attorney General
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Speaker 1: Investigation of Epstein 2007-2025 There have been three successive New
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Speaker 1: Mexico Attorney Generals Gary King, Hector Balderas, and Raul Torres
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Speaker 1: since Epstein was convicted in Florida for felony solicitation of
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Speaker 1: a minor. Gary King, Former Governor Bruce King's son was
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Speaker 1: Attorney General of New Mexico from January 1, 2007 to
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Speaker 1: January 1, 2015. According to media reports, King accepted $ 35, 600
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Speaker 1: in campaign donations from Epstein during his 2014 gubernatorial bid,
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Speaker 1: which he said he later returned. King also reached out
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Speaker 1: to Epstein's staff to arrange a round-trip flight from Santa
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Speaker 1: Fe to Washington, D.C., King admits to having met with
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Speaker 1: Epstein at his request for lunch. The commission to date
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Speaker 1: has discovered no evidence that King took any action as
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Speaker 1: Attorney General to investigate or prosecute Epstein. Balderas initiated an
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Speaker 1: investigation of Epstein, although it's not clear when the investigation
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Speaker 1: was opened. One account suggests the investigation was opened in
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Speaker 1: May of 2019. In any event, by July, Balderas had
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Speaker 1: deferred further investigation of Epstein and sex trafficking at Zorro
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Speaker 1: Ranch at the request of SDNY. The commission has discovered
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Speaker 1: no evidence that Balderas reopened the investigation at any point
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Speaker 1: between July 2019 and January 1, 2023, when he left office.
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Speaker 1: According to the NMDOJ, all investigative material were forwarded to
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Speaker 1: the SDNY. SDNY has refused to provide any response to
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Speaker 1: the commission's subpoena. Moreover, The New Mexico Attorney General's Office
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Speaker 1: did not retain a copy of the material it submitted
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Speaker 1: to SDNY or such material has been misplaced. As noted below,
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Speaker 1: it appears the Attorney General investigation involved conduct occurring prior
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Speaker 1: to 2008. May 14, 2019, the Truth Commission's earliest documented
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Speaker 1: mention of an investigation by the New Mexico Attorney General.
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Speaker 1: Deputy Attorney General Clara Moran's letter to John Anderson stated
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Speaker 1: that The Office of the Attorney General has been actively
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Speaker 1: engaged in an ongoing investigation and review of this matter,
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Speaker 1: which may also involve a referral of certain criminal matters
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Speaker 1: within the exclusive statutory authority of the federal government. All right, folks,
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Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here. And in the
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Speaker 1: next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick
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Speaker 1: up where we left off. All the information that goes
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Speaker 1: What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the
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Speaker 1: Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're getting right back to
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Speaker 1: the New Mexico interim report on Jeffrey Epstein. Attorney General
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Speaker 1: Balderas deferred sex trafficking investigation to SDNY. Hector Balderas was
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Speaker 1: Attorney General of New Mexico between January 1st, 2015 and
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Speaker 1: January 1st, 2023. On September 8th, 2019, SDNY emailed the
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Speaker 1: District of New Mexico describing their understanding with the New
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Speaker 1: Mexico Attorney General. We spoke with the New Mexico AG's
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Speaker 1: office back in July 2019. In essence, they agreed to
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Speaker 1: cease any investigation into sex trafficking and share whatever they
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Speaker 1: had gathered to date regarding sex trafficking activity with our office.
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Speaker 1: We agreed that they were free to proceed with whatever
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Speaker 1: other investigation unrelated to sex trafficking they may have concerning
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Speaker 1: Epstein and told them that at the conclusion of our case,
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Speaker 1: we'd pass along any information we may have gathered about
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Speaker 1: state crimes that were committed in their jurisdiction. We have
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Speaker 1: not communicated with anyone from the New Mexico AG's office
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Speaker 1: since that conversation in July of 2019. References to Allison
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Speaker 1: and Maureen elsewhere in the email chain likely mean Assistant
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Speaker 1: US Attorneys Allison Moe and Maureen Comey. publicly known to
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Speaker 1: have handled the Epstein case at SDNY. Comey was fired
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Speaker 1: by the Department of Justice in July of 2025. Deputy
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Speaker 1: Attorney General Clara Moran wrote SDNY on September 17, 2019.
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Speaker 1: Pursuant to our telephone conversation, this office is providing the
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Speaker 1: enclosed material related to the criminal investigation and potential prosecution
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Speaker 1: of Jeffrey Epstein's co-conspirators. She described... The enclosed material, which
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Speaker 1: included police reports, recorded witness interviews, correspondence amongst New Mexico
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Speaker 1: state agencies and documents related to Epstein's leasing of New
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Speaker 1: Mexico public lands. Moran further stated that all conduct described
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Speaker 1: in our investigation occurred prior to 2008, the year New
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Speaker 1: Mexico enacted its human trafficking statute. She asked the SDN why.
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Speaker 1: contact her directly if it learned of any other criminal
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Speaker 1: charges implicating New Mexico law not barred by New Mexico's
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Speaker 1: statute of limitations. Finally, she stated that if further investigations
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Speaker 1: reveal additional survivors of crimes occurring in New Mexico, know
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Speaker 1: that this office intends to work in union with the
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Speaker 1: United States Attorney for the District of New Mexico to
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Speaker 1: ensure that these brave survivors have the opportunity to see
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Speaker 1: the justice is achieved in a court of law. She
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Speaker 1: asked to be contacted if SDNY's investigation reveals survivors of
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Speaker 1: crimes occurring in New Mexico not mentioned in the provided
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Speaker 1: investigative materials. Attorney General Hector Balderas wrote John Anderson on
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Speaker 1: October 15, 2019. He pointed out that his office has
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Speaker 1: been actively investigating and assisting other state and federal agencies
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Speaker 1: with their investigations related to criminality perpetrated in New Mexico
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Speaker 1: by Jeffrey Epstein. He advised that they have been in
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Speaker 1: communication with the Assistant United States Attorney for the Southern
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Speaker 1: District of New York and have provided them with material
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Speaker 1: supportive of their federal investigation and allegations of misconduct by
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Speaker 1: Epstein's possible co-conspirators. He also requested that the U.S. Attorney's
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Speaker 1: Office explore initiating the process to seize Epstein's New Mexico
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Speaker 1: land holdings for the eventual benefit of survivors of these
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Speaker 1: acts and the people of the state of New Mexico.
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Speaker 1: In a letter dated July 8, 2020, the USAO NM
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Speaker 1: Clara Moran advised that the Attorney General's Office has provided
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Speaker 1: investigative evidence regarding Jeffrey Epstein's use of Zorro Ranch to
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Speaker 1: assist federal prosecutors. She went on to request that any
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Speaker 1: interests belonging to Epstein's estate or co-conspirators be seized by
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Speaker 1: federal authorities. In the belief that this ranch was used
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Speaker 1: by Epstein and others to facilitate the commission's and prolonged
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Speaker 1: concealment of his trafficking of children, such that seizure may
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Speaker 1: be pursued in conjunction with the pending criminal prosecution of
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Speaker 1: Epstein's associates and co-conspirators. She concluded her message by offering
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Speaker 1: assistance in the effort. Former Attorney General Balderas has stated
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Speaker 1: that New Mexico provided SDNY with police reports, recorded witness testimony,
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Speaker 1: correspondence and documents related to to Epstein's land leases, and
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Speaker 1: received nothing in return. He described the arrangement as a
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Speaker 1: one-way relationship. Attorney General Torres' 2026 investigation of Epstein currently
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Speaker 1: in progress. Raul Torres currently serves as Attorney General of
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Speaker 1: New Mexico's and has served in that capacity for over
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Speaker 1: three years, since January 1st of 2023. On February 19th, 2026,
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Speaker 1: Torres formally reopened the criminal investigation into Zorro Ranch. The
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Speaker 1: NMDOJ statement read, although the state of New Mexico's prior
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Speaker 1: investigation was closed in 2019, at the request of the U.S.
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Speaker 1: Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York, revelations
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Speaker 1: outlined in the previously sealed FBI files warrant further explanation.
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Speaker 1: On March 9th and 10th, 2026, NMDOJ conducted the first
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Speaker 1: known full property search at Zorro Ranch, assisted by New
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Speaker 1: Mexico State Police and Sandoval County K-9 teams. FBI agents
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Speaker 1: interviewed ranch manager Bryce Gordon on site in 2007, but
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Speaker 1: no property search was conducted at that time. Cadaver dogs
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Speaker 1: and ground-penetrating radar were deployed. As of March 24th, 2026,
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Speaker 1: no human remains have been found. The current owners, Don
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Speaker 1: and Mary Catherine Huffines, cooperated with the search. Abuse of
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Speaker 1: state ranching and agricultural leases. The evidence shows that Epstein
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Speaker 1: purchased the land comprising the Zorro Ranch in 1993 from
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Speaker 1: then-New Mexico Governor Bruce King. As noted in later years,
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Speaker 1: Epstein made a contribution to Bruce King's son, Gary King,
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Speaker 1: then the sitting New Mexico Attorney General, in support of
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Speaker 1: the latter's campaign against for a New Mexico governor. Reportedly,
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Speaker 1: this money was later returned. Records obtained from New Mexico
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Speaker 1: State Land Office indicate that part of the leased property
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Speaker 1: would be used as a landing strip for a private aircraft.
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Speaker 1: Documentation filed with NMSLO has indicated that Maxwell acted as
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Speaker 1: a disinterested person in appraising the leased property. Email evidence
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Speaker 1: indicates that cattle were present on the property between 2006
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Speaker 1: and 2012. The evidence shows Epstein made efforts to meet
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Speaker 1: the grazing lease requirements, at least for a part of
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Speaker 1: the time that he held the property. These efforts, however,
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Speaker 1: appear to have been haphazard and sporadic, and the record
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Speaker 1: does not show leasing requirements were met subsequent to 2012.
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Speaker 1: Epstein retained Paul Bardacchi, a former New Mexico Attorney General,
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Speaker 1: to review his grazing lease. The earliest mention of the
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Speaker 1: cattle on Zorro Ranch and material reviewed thus far by
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Speaker 1: the Commission is is in 2005. Specifically, on December 28, 2005,
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Speaker 1: Zorro Trust entered into an agreement with Eddie L. Burns
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Speaker 1: under which Burns would assume the grazing lease. The agreement
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Speaker 1: provided in part as follows. Owner has delivered to Burns
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Speaker 1: and Burns acknowledges receipt and understanding of the terms of
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Speaker 1: the BLM lease and the two SLO leases and agrees
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Speaker 1: to comply with the terms of the BLM leases and
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Speaker 1: the SLO leases. Owner explicitly denies permission to Burns to
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Speaker 1: use land that is not suitable or appropriate for livestock
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Speaker 1: grazing purposes or land that is in close proximity to
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Speaker 1: any of the existing residences or air strip on the
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Speaker 1: fee-simple property. Owner grants permission to Burns to use the
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Speaker 1: fee-simple property for livestock grazing purposes effectively upon the execution
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Speaker 1: of the license. Burns is expressly precluded from using the
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Speaker 1: BLM lease property and SLO lease property until Burns has
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Speaker 1: been granted respective subleases by the BLM and SLO. Burns
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Speaker 1: maintained his lease until 2010. Cattle became preoccupied in the
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Speaker 1: 2010-11 timeframe. An email from Kahn to Epstein dated August 27, 2010,
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Speaker 1: indicates Kahn checked the Santa Fe County website and understood
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Speaker 1: as follows. Grazing valuation claims require proof of presence of
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Speaker 1: at least one head of livestock on a minimum land
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Speaker 1: requirement of 80 acres, southern Santa Fe County, and 53 acres,
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Speaker 1: northern Santa Fe County, and proof that the livestock has
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Speaker 1: access to all of the agricultural land for the tax year.
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Speaker 1: This may be in the form of a grazing lease,
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Speaker 1: a personal property declaration of livestock that graze on the land,
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Speaker 1: or some other proof of grazing use. Grazing, however... must
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Speaker 1: be the primary use of the land in order to qualify. B.
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Speaker 1: Website did not provide a clear answer of how many
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Speaker 1: acres each livestock exempt, so I called Larry Valdez. Telephone
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Speaker 1: number redacted. From the Agriculture County Assessor's Office and left
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Speaker 1: two messages. Khan further explained that Epstein's lease with Eddie
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Speaker 1: limits him to 50 head of cattle unless otherwise agreed
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Speaker 1: upon by you in writing. but that the application with
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Speaker 1: New Mexico stated that we will have at least 49 cattle.
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Speaker 1: Kahn concluded that there's a small window, one cattle, for
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Speaker 1: Eddie not to be in violation of his lease. I
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Speaker 1: didn't believe that livestock exempted a max, amount only a minimum.
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Speaker 1: Epstein seemed frustrated, emailing Kahn the same day, RE cattle,
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Speaker 1: I want an answer, Bryce is not my tax advisor.
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Speaker 1: A September 3rd, 2010 email from Burns informs Epstein that
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Speaker 1: that we're removing our cattle from the land held by
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Speaker 1: Zorro Development. Subsequent emails clarify that Burns terminated the lease.
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Speaker 1: An email dated April 13th, 2011 to Epstein states that
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Speaker 1: cattle are on site and will be branded today. Until
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Speaker 1: they have settled in, they will remain in the corral
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Speaker 1: unit next Monday. A document dated April 11th, 2011 reflects
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Speaker 1: the purchase of 15 heads of cattle for a related
35:42
Speaker 1: expense for $ 10, 919. 50. On October 14, 2011, Epstein received two
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Speaker 1: emails from a person whose name has been redacted who
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Speaker 1: wished to graze cattle on the land to satisfy the
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Speaker 1: lease requirements. The substance of these emails is the same.
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Speaker 1: The second of these emails states as follows, I would
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Speaker 1: like to meet the requirement for the cattle and the
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Speaker 1: land lease. This year you purchased 15 young cows and
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Speaker 1: sold them after a certain amount of time. I would
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Speaker 1: purchase the same amount of young cows, heifers, but not
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Speaker 1: sell them. They would stay here all year. Then the
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Speaker 1: following spring, I'll purchase a bull and breed them as two-year-olds.
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Speaker 1: I'll sell off the offspring yearly and keep the original
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Speaker 1: 15 head. The offspring will eventually pay me back for
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Speaker 1: the initial cost of the cattle and additional costs associated, feed, shots, etc.
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Speaker 1: It'll take three years to see any cash flow back.
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Speaker 1: I think this plan is simple and meets your requirement
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Speaker 1: for the land lease. and allows me an opportunity for
36:44
Speaker 1: me to expand my horizons. No response to these emails
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Speaker 1: was found. The law firm of Sutton, Thayer & Brown, P.C.
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Speaker 1: was retained to advise Epstein regarding grazing leases. On February 3, 2012,
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Speaker 1: Bryce Gordon emailed Epstein stating, To retain the agricultural exemption,
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Speaker 1: a cattle sublease would be required. The sublease, which Zorro
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Speaker 1: had with Eddie Burns, was terminated when Eddie left the ranch.
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Speaker 1: But as you know, Steve Chavez is open to taking
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Speaker 1: a sublease. Documentation shows a grazing lease was contemplated. A
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Speaker 1: draft lease was present in the documentation. However, it's not clear.
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Speaker 1: An agreement was ultimately concluded. In December 2nd, 2011, email
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Speaker 1: exchange between Wendy Martinez and Kahn forwarded to Epstein. It's
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Speaker 1: mentioned that Chavez previously had been told he could bring
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Speaker 1: his dad's cattle on the ranch next spring. Bank records
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Speaker 1: for the month of April 2011 reflect wire transfers for cattle.
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Speaker 1: In September of 2019, after Epstein's death, State Land Commissioner
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Speaker 1: Stephanie Garcia Richard initiated cancellation of Cypress Incorporated's grazing leases
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Speaker 1: on 1,243 acres of adjacent State Trust land after Zorro
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Speaker 1: Ranch failed to respond to multiple inspection access requests following
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Speaker 1: Epstein's death. The commission has been unable to locate at
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Speaker 1: this time any documentation showing that inspection access requests were
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Speaker 1: made prior to Epstein's death. The formal cancellation letter cited
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Speaker 1: obstruction of access, misrepresentation, and non-agricultural use. It's been claimed
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Speaker 1: that the leases effectively functioned as a privacy buffer around
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Speaker 1: the ranch. On or about September 4th, 2019, New Mexico
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Speaker 1: Attorney General Hector Balderas issued a statement saying he was
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Speaker 1: pleased Garcia Richard was taking back lands that should be
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Speaker 1: managed to best serve the state and the benefit of
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Speaker 1: New Mexico school children. In a July 24, 2025 proffer
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Speaker 1: made as part of Maxwell's post-conviction remedies, Maxwell testified about
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Speaker 1: the challenges of maintaining cattle on Zorro Ranch. So the
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Speaker 1: ranch was very challenging, because not only that, but it
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Speaker 1: had BLM land. So to help maintain your BLM, you
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Speaker 1: have to have cattle, and I love animals. On February 10, 2026,
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Speaker 1: nmslo commissioner stephanie garcia richard wrote to state and federal
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Speaker 1: law enforcement urging investigation of buried allegations noting that straight
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Speaker 1: trust lands are adjacent to the ranch property all right
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Speaker 1: folks we're going to wrap up right there and in
39:23
Speaker 1: the next episode dealing with the topic we're going to
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Speaker 1: pick up where we left off all the information that
39:28
Speaker 1: goes with this episode can be found in the description
39:31
Speaker 1: box what's up everyone and welcome to another episode of
39:35
Speaker 1: the epstein chronicles in this episode we're getting right back
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Speaker 1: to the new mexico interim report into jeffrey epstein and
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Speaker 1: his behavior and crimes in new mexico firearms possession As
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Speaker 1: discussed in detail above, available documentation indicates that Epstein was
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Speaker 1: in possession of firearms both before and after his 2008
39:57
Speaker 1: Florida felony conviction for solicitation of a prostitute. The evidence
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Speaker 1: further shows that Epstein maintained and exercised positive control of
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Speaker 1: firearms on Zorro Ranch at a time when he was
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Speaker 1: a convicted felon. This implicates possible violations of U.S. Code
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Speaker 1: Section 922G1 and NMSA regulations. Section 30-7-16B-2009. To date, the
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Speaker 1: Commission has discovered no evidence showing that New Mexico authorities
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Speaker 1: inspected Epstein's New Mexico residence for the presence or knowledge
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Speaker 1: of firearms or investigated Epstein for unlawful possession of firearms.
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Speaker 1: This is important to the extent that it may show
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Speaker 1: Epstein was afforded favorable treatment. Moreover, a timely investigation of
40:45
Speaker 1: Epstein for unlawful possession of firearms or may have afforded
40:48
Speaker 1: law enforcement an opportunity to initiate an investigation and collect
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Speaker 1: evidence that may have led to evidence of sex trafficking.
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Speaker 1: Removal of Cultural Patrimony Evidence shows that there were petroglyphs
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Speaker 1: on the ranch. There were reports that Epstein removed petroglyphs
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Speaker 1: from his property and used them as decorations. It's not
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Speaker 1: clear whether the petroglyphs were found on state or federal land.
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Speaker 1: Epstein's removal of the petroglyphs could implicate a number of statutes,
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Speaker 1: If originally located on state or federal land, removal of
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Speaker 1: the petroglyphs might possibly constitute theft of government property. The
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Speaker 1: removal could also possibly have been in violation of New
41:30
Speaker 1: Mexico state laws governing protection of cultural resources. New Mexico's
41:35
Speaker 1: legal framework for archaeological resources on private land is primarily
41:40
Speaker 1: governed by the Cultural Properties Act and related New Mexico
41:44
Speaker 1: Administrative Code rules. The Cultural Properties Act establishes the Cultural
41:50
Speaker 1: Properties Review Committee and the State Historic Preservation Officer and
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Speaker 1: authorizes them to regulate archaeological investigations on both state and
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Speaker 1: private lands. The Cultural Properties Protection Act further strengthens protection
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Speaker 1: for cultural properties. NMAC 4.10.14 Cultural properties on private land
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Speaker 1: and mechanical excavation permits require owners to preserve Cultural Properties,
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Speaker 1: and Registered Cultural Properties on Private Land, NMAC 410-14-8. Preservation
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Speaker 1: of Cultural Properties on Private Land provides for technical assistance
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Speaker 1: to owners to identify, register, and protect cultural properties and
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Speaker 1: offer advice on preservation, rehabilitation, restoration, and maintenance, including access
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Speaker 1: to tax credits, preservation loans, and conservation easements. The Truth
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Speaker 1: Commission recommends further investigation into possible crimes or civil liabilities
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Speaker 1: surrounding how the petroglyphs were obtained. Investigative Area No. 3
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Speaker 1: Power and Motives The facts set forth in this interim
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Speaker 1: report thus far illustrate the many ways Epstein used his
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Speaker 1: social network to advance his criminal activities, both directly and indirectly.
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Speaker 1: Epstein used his extensive social network to directly or indirectly
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Speaker 1: facilitate his sex crime enterprise. He did this by directly
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Speaker 1: using people to facilitate contact and exploitation of women and girls,
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Speaker 1: to maintain residences where the exploitation could occur, to maintain
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Speaker 1: and operate a fleet of aircraft by which he could
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Speaker 1: transport women and girls, and by creating the social conditions
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Speaker 1: that enabled him to obscure his crimes and cause others
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Speaker 1: to overlook him. Numerous people accompanied Epstein on flights to
43:41
Speaker 1: New Mexico, and a number of them were guests of
43:44
Speaker 1: Epstein's Oro Ranch. A record of his guests serves as
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Speaker 1: a compendium of the rich, powerful, and influential, presidents, governors,
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Speaker 1: cabinet secretaries, captains of industry and finance, Silicon Valley moguls,
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Speaker 1: actors and celebrities, mavens of fashion and the arts, and
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Speaker 1: the academic, scientific, and other thought leaders of the highest caliber.
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Speaker 1: In every detail of his dealings, the record reviewed show
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Speaker 1: Epstein repeatedly cultivating the support of powerful and influential people
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Speaker 1: wherever he was. Epstein traveled with his personal staff, with Maxwell, Groff, Kellan, Marcinkova,
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Speaker 1: and the numerous others who attended to the management and
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Speaker 1: operations of Epstein's residences and to his person in general,
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Speaker 1: his personal cook, his bodyguard, his masseuse, his architect. Epstein
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Speaker 1: wove his network of associates into a sphere of influence,
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Speaker 1: powered by his immense wealth, and behind which he could
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Speaker 1: obscure his depredations. Some passengers and survivors are fully named,
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Speaker 1: and their roles in Epstein's orbit are known. Others in
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Speaker 1: this group are identified only by their first name or
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Speaker 1: by initials, and little if anything is known about them.
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Speaker 1: Approximately 26 passengers are identified only by apparently female first
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Speaker 1: names or initials. Their ages are unknown. This group includes
45:05
Speaker 1: individuals who may have been abused by Epstein, who facilitated
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Speaker 1: that abuse, or both. The Commission will endeavor to positively
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Speaker 1: identify these individuals to locate them and, if at all possible,
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Speaker 1: to interview them. The Commission thus far is investigating whether
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Speaker 1: Epstein expressly or implicitly blackmailed participants in his sex trafficking enterprise.
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Speaker 1: The Commission also thus far has not uncovered evidence showing
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Speaker 1: that Epstein suggested involvement in national security and foreign intelligence
45:36
Speaker 1: matters to evade investigation and consequences for his activities. Investigative
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Speaker 1: area number four, medical and scientific improprieties. This investigative area
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Speaker 1: relates to Epstein's documented interest and support of medical and
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Speaker 1: scientific advances, sometimes for unethical or improper purposes. This investigative
45:58
Speaker 1: area covers Epstein's use of Zorro Ranch as a place
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Speaker 1: for medical or dental practice, as well as Epstein's interest
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Speaker 1: in eugenics and transhumanism, and reports that he facilitated forced
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Speaker 1: impregnation and non-consensual medical procedures. This investigative area also covers
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Speaker 1: Epstein's attempts to manipulate persons engaged in scientific research to
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Speaker 1: further his own interests. Dental Practice at Zorro Ranch Karinia Shuliak,
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Speaker 1: Epstein's girlfriend and assistant, was a licensed dentist in New
46:30
Speaker 1: Mexico from 2015 to around 2021. There are conflicting reports
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Speaker 1: in the media as to when and where Epstein and
46:37
Speaker 1: Shuliak met. However, It is known that Chuliak studied in
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Speaker 1: Belarus to be a dentist, but did not complete her training.
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Speaker 1: In 2011, she applied to the Columbia University College of
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Speaker 1: Dental Medicine, but was declined admission. Epstein assisted with her
46:55
Speaker 1: application and also enlisted the assistance of College of Dental
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Speaker 1: Medicine deans and professors. After Chuliak's rejection, Epstein stepped up
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Speaker 1: his campaign to have his girlfriend admitted, introducing her to
47:08
Speaker 1: another professor who was happy to discuss the mechanism for
47:12
Speaker 1: moving your career forward, and who advised that it was
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Speaker 1: imperative that she met with the Dean for Academic Affairs, Dr.
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Speaker 1: Letty Moss Salantine. In April of 2011, Leslie Groff arranged
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Speaker 1: a meeting between Shuliac and Martin Davis, Senior Associate Dean
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Speaker 1: for Students and Alumni Affairs at the Columbia University College
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Speaker 1: of Dental Medicine. Groff emailed Davis, indicating that she wanted
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Speaker 1: to arrange a tour tomorrow of the School of Dentistry
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Speaker 1: at Columbia for his friend Jeffrey Epstein, because Jeffrey Epstein's friend, Corinna,
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Speaker 1: is considering dental school. Davis responded saying, We usually ask
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Speaker 1: non-candidate interview invitees to join our candidates for their tour,
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Speaker 1: but we might do a favor here, and he works
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Speaker 1: very hard for us at Columbia. Good fellow. Epstein friend
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Speaker 1: Thomas Magnani, DDS and Dean of the Columbia University College
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Speaker 1: of Dental Medicine, sent a letter on behalf of Chuliak
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Speaker 1: to the Belarusian State Medical University. He explained that Chuliak
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Speaker 1: withdrew from the Belarusian State Medical University in August 2010,
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Speaker 1: having completed four of the five years of study required
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Speaker 1: for a dental degree. He asked whether Chuliak could take
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Speaker 1: courses at Columbia to complete her fifth year that would
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Speaker 1: allow her to receive her dental degree from the Belarusian
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Speaker 1: state medical university. As of January 12, 2012, Columbia University
48:39
Speaker 1: College of Dental Medicine didn't accept transfer students beyond the
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Speaker 1: second year. Its website stated that students may not transfer
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Speaker 1: into CDM in the third or fourth year of the program.
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Speaker 1: In 2012, Epstein made donations to Ira B. Lampster and
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Speaker 1: dean and professor of dentistry at Columbia University. Columbia University
48:59
Speaker 1: made efforts to accommodate Shuliac. In a nutshell, Dr. Magnani
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Speaker 1: advises not to try and move this test date. She
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Speaker 1: is with the most powerful people there, who are already
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Speaker 1: meeting her halfway and moving things around to accommodate her.
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Speaker 1: He doesn't want the initial fears everyone had to be
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Speaker 1: roused again. Ultimately, Shuliac was admitted to the College of
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Speaker 1: Dental Medicine and completed her degree. After receiving her dental degree,
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Speaker 1: Shuliac applied for a dental license in New Mexico, listing
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Speaker 1: Epstein-Zorro Ranch address as the proposed location of her dental practice.
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Speaker 1: According to records obtained by subpoena by the New Mexico
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Speaker 1: Regulation and Licensing Department, On July 7, 2015, Shuliac submitted
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Speaker 1: an application for dentistry, application license by examination to RLD.
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Speaker 1: Her application noted a New York City mailing address and
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Speaker 1: proposed a practice name of Zorro Smiles to be located
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Speaker 1: at 49 Zorro Ranch, Stanley, New Mexico. On August 14, 2015,
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Speaker 1: the New Mexico Board of Dental Health issued Shuliac a
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Speaker 1: license to practice general dentistry. Emails from Epstein to Chuliak
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Speaker 1: in 2016 show him requesting oxygen and anesthetic for a
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Speaker 1: dental office in New Mexico and instructions to unplug a
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Speaker 1: dental chair pump at the ranch. While no formal dental
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Speaker 1: business license was issued, RLD has no record of complaints
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Speaker 1: against her. To date, the commission has located no evidence
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Speaker 1: showing that she practiced dentistry in New Mexico. However, it's
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Speaker 1: noted in several news reports that victims were reported waking
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Speaker 1: up next to medical equipment at Zorro Ranch. It's unknown
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Speaker 1: at this time if Shuliac's dental instrumentation and these accounts
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Speaker 1: are related. In July of 2016, Shuliac completed a continuing
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Speaker 1: education in cosmetic dentistry and anterior aesthetics. In February of 2026,
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Speaker 1: the Daily Mail reported that Shuliac corrected the teeth of
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Speaker 1: Epstein and other young women in his orbit. Epstein was
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Speaker 1: obsessed with his victims having perfect teeth. and had a
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Speaker 1: dentist chair installed at his house in Palm Beach and
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Speaker 1: another at his private island in the Caribbean, according to
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Speaker 1: the outlet. Shuliac was a primary beneficiary under Epstein's last
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Speaker 1: will and testament, executed two days before his death in
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Speaker 1: federal custody in August of 2019, and was slated to
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Speaker 1: receive $ 100 million and ownership of his six properties. His
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Speaker 1: New York townhouse, his Palm Beach residence, his two Virgin
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Speaker 1: Islands properties, his Paris apartment, and Zorro Ranch. All right, folks,
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Speaker 1: we're going to wrap up right here. And in the
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Speaker 1: next episode dealing with the topic, we'll pick up where
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Speaker 1: we left off. All the information that goes with this
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Speaker 1: episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone?
51:43
Speaker 1: And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In
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Speaker 1: this episode, we're going to get back to the New
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Speaker 1: Mexico interim report filed about Jeffrey Epstein and the crimes
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Speaker 1: he committed in New Mexico. Intellectual interest and involvement in
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Speaker 1: the Santa Fe Institute. Epstein had a number of intellectual
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Speaker 1: interests which he fostered by cultivating relationships with numerous academics
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Speaker 1: and scientists, many of whom he supported financially. One such
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Speaker 1: interest included transhumanism, a modern-day version of eugenics. Transhumanism is
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Speaker 1: the science of improving the human population through technologies like
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Speaker 1: genetic engineering and artificial intelligence. According to media reporting based
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Speaker 1: on witness interviews, Epstein hoped to seed the human race
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Speaker 1: with his DNA by impregnating women on Zorro Ranch. To date,
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Speaker 1: the commission has uncovered no evidence showing that this scheme
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Speaker 1: came to fruition. Epstein advanced his intellectual interests by becoming
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Speaker 1: a patron of various scientific causes. A biography presented at
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Speaker 1: one academic conference noted that Epstein was a member or
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Speaker 1: former member of the Trilateral Commission, the Council on Foreign Relations,
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Speaker 1: and the New York Academy of Sciences. a former Rockefeller
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Speaker 1: University board member and a former trustee of the Institute
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Speaker 1: of International Education. The board of directors and the president
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Speaker 1: of the COUQ Foundation Incorporated, one of the largest scientific philanthropies,
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Speaker 1: funding topics such as biologically inspired financial computing, game theory,
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Speaker 1: and the currency markets. The mathematics and political impacts of
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Speaker 1: esoteric financial instruments and the personal experiences genomics, and power.
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Speaker 1: This same biography also noted that Epstein was actively involved
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Speaker 1: in the Santa Fe Institute, the Theoretical Biology Initiative at
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Speaker 1: the Institute for Advanced Study, and the Quantum Gravity Program
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Speaker 1: at the University of Pennsylvania, and also sat on the Mind, Brain,
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Speaker 1: and Behavior Advisory Committee at Harvard University. According to its website,
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Speaker 1: the Santa Fe Institute, an independent non-profit theoretical research institute
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Speaker 1: located in Santa Fe and dedicated to the multidisciplinary study
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Speaker 1: of the fundamental principles of complex adaptive systems, including physical, computational, biological,
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Speaker 1: and social systems. SFI's mission, as stated on its webpage is,
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Speaker 1: to understand and unify the underlying shared patterns in complex physical, biological, social, cultural, technological,
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Speaker 1: and even possible astrobiological worlds. Our global research network of
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Speaker 1: scholars spans borders, departments, and disciplines, unifying curious minds steeped
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Speaker 1: in rigorous, logical, mathematical, and computational reasoning. As we reveal
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Speaker 1: the unseen mechanisms and processes that shape these evolving worlds,
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Speaker 1: We seek to use this understanding to promote the well-being
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Speaker 1: of humankind and life on Earth. Nobel laureate Murray Gellman,
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Speaker 1: who proposed the quark model, founded SFI in 1984. In
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Speaker 1: the acknowledgment section of his 1995 book, The Quark and
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Speaker 1: the Jaguar, Gellman thanked Epstein for his financial support. Epstein's
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Speaker 1: interest in transhumanism, among other things, manifested in the relationships
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Speaker 1: he developed with academics and scientists affiliated with the SFI.
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Speaker 1: This included Martin Nowak, an Austrian-born professor of mathematics and
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Speaker 1: biology at Harvard University, known for his work in evolutionary dynamics,
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Speaker 1: focusing on evolutionary theory and viral dynamics. Epstein and Nowak
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Speaker 1: regularly exchanged emails. On August 10, 2013, Nowak emailed Epstein,
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Speaker 1: and they discussed a number of of SFI scholars, including
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Speaker 1: Nobel laureate Gellman and theoretical physicist Jeffrey West. On April 2, 2016,
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Speaker 1: Nowak emailed Epstein commenting on Sidney Redner, an SFI affiliate
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Speaker 1: whose research focused on non-equilibrium statistical mechanics and network structure, stating,
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Speaker 1: I think he is cool for August. In another email
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Speaker 1: dated February 26, 2017, Nowak let Epstein know that SFI
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Speaker 1: president David Krakauer is in Maui at present, but hopefully
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Speaker 1: talking to him later today. Epstein and Nowak were closer
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Speaker 1: than these emails might suggest. The preface of Nowak's 2006 textbook,
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Speaker 1: Evolutionary Dynamics, Exploring the Equations of Life, ends with, I
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Speaker 1: thank Jeffrey Epstein for many ideas and for letting me participate.
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Speaker 1: in his passionate pursuit of knowledge in all of its forms.
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Speaker 1: Nowak also benefited financially from his relationship with Epstein. In 2003,
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Speaker 1: Epstein donated $ 6. 5 million to Harvard to establish the Program
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Speaker 1: for Evolutionary Dynamics, which was led by Nowak. The evidence
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Speaker 1: further shows that this financial support allowed Epstein access to
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Speaker 1: Harvard University facilities, including a keycard, passcode, and an office.
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Speaker 1: Subsequent to Epstein's conviction for solicitation of a prostitute, Harvard
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Speaker 1: conducted a review of the Epstein-Nowak relationship, during which it
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Speaker 1: discovered that Epstein had maintained access to personal office in
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Speaker 1: Nowak's lab for nine years and used the office over
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Speaker 1: 40 times, typically accompanied by young women serving as his assistants.
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Speaker 1: Harvard shut down the PED and sanctioned Nowak for his
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Speaker 1: involvement with Epstein. Epstein interacted frequently with SFI associates, with
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Speaker 1: whom he had close ties. In a November 10, 2010 email,
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Speaker 1: he was reminded of an upcoming meeting on the frontiers
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Speaker 1: of complexity science. On December 4, 2010, theoretical physicist Lawrence
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Speaker 1: Krauss wrote, Jeffrey asked me to find out the dates
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Speaker 1: of something which is happening at the Santa Fe Institute
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Speaker 1: this month. I look forward to hearing from you. On
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Speaker 1: March 14, 2012, Epstein received an email referencing the July 15th,
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Speaker 1: 16th Santa Fe Institute, the Science of Cities conference. I'm attending,
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Speaker 1: would love to see you. I think it's really hot
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Speaker 1: during that time of year, miss you. MIT professor and
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Speaker 1: SFI expert on quantum information theory, Seth Lloyd, sent an
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Speaker 1: email on January 27th, 2017 stating, Dear Jeffrey, sorry, I
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Speaker 1: was hung up all day. Meetings at the Santa Fe
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Speaker 1: Institute the last few days. Also, realize I don't have
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Speaker 1: your phone number to call. Email correspondence also shows Epstein
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Speaker 1: sometimes hosted SFI associates at his ranch. On June 25, 2012,
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Speaker 1: Leslie Groff emailed asking, Would you like me to touch
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Speaker 1: base with who's staying at the ranch July 15-16 for
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Speaker 1: the Science of the Cities conference at Santa Fe Institute?
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Speaker 1: She also wrote on July 26, 2012, Want to make
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Speaker 1: sure y'all know Jeffrey West, is to visit J.E. on
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Speaker 1: the ranch on August 9th. Details have not been given yet.
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Speaker 1: He's a professor at the Santa Fe Institute. On August 7th, 2012,
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Speaker 1: scientist and entrepreneur Adam Bly let Epstein know, I'm at
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Speaker 1: the Santa Fe Institute for a couple of days. Neuroscientist
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Speaker 1: Al Seckle wrote Epstein on July 16, 2009, letting him know,
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Speaker 1: Murray Gelman just invited me, Isabel, and Christine to celebrate
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Speaker 1: his 80th birthday at the Santa Fe Institute in mid-September.
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Speaker 1: It will be three days of celebrated talks. And Al
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Speaker 1: Seckle obviously was married to Glenn Maxwell's sister, And then,
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Speaker 1: of course, he had an unfortunate fall off of a cliff.
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Speaker 1: Would you be interested in attending? Sackle also seems to
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Speaker 1: have invited himself to Epstein's ranch. Also, you once mentioned
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Speaker 1: something about a property in the area and us visiting.
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Speaker 1: Do you have a place for us to stay? Jeffrey
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Speaker 1: West's assistant wrote an email on August 10th, 2012, referencing
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Speaker 1: an upcoming visit to the ranch. I made a map
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Speaker 1: for Jeffrey, but he mentioned that there is a marker
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Speaker 1: on the road for the turn off to Jeffrey Epstein's ranch,
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Speaker 1: and I wonder if you could tell me what it
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Speaker 1: is and also give specific directions to the ranch. On
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Speaker 1: July 11, 2011, Leslie Groff wrote Jeffrey West's assistant, Hello Jeffrey,
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Speaker 1: Jeffrey Epstein is visiting the ranch and wondering if you
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Speaker 1: might be around and have some time to see him.
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Speaker 1: SFI-affiliated scientists also asked for and took Epstein's money and
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Speaker 1: attended conferences reflecting Epstein's intellectual interests, sometimes organized by Epstein
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Speaker 1: at his residences. One such conference referenced in a July 10,
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Speaker 1: 2010 email between Epstein and Seckl was hosted on Little St.
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Speaker 1: James and featured a program covering the following topics. Artificial
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Speaker 1: Intelligence Complexity Theory New Trends in Theoretical Physics Evolutionary Biology
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Speaker 1: cognitive neuroscience, minimally invasive surgery, encryption and decryption, new financial
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Speaker 1: systems and methods, emerging technologies. The email notes that the
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Speaker 1: conference is made possible by a generous grant from the
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Speaker 1: Epstein Foundation. Gelman of the Santa Fe Institute was a
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Speaker 1: confirmed attendee. In an August 30, 2014 email, Epstein conveyed
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Speaker 1: that the publisher of Nautilus is asking for funds. The
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Speaker 1: commission is looking into reports that over the years, Epstein
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Speaker 1: donated $ 275, 000 directly to SFI. This does not include donations
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Speaker 1: made to individual SFI-affiliated scientists such as Martin Nowak. Investigative
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Speaker 1: Area No. 5 Financial Crimes and Irregularities and Recovery This
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Speaker 1: investigative area covers Epstein's use of money to leverage access
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Speaker 1: into silent victims and others. This investigative area also covers
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Speaker 1: any financial crime that Epstein or any of his associates
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Speaker 1: committed in New Mexico. Finally, this investigative area addresses whether
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Speaker 1: remedies for recovering the damages were available, and if so,
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Speaker 1: availed of for those victimized by Epstein. Subpoenas have been
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Speaker 1: issued to Deutsche Bank and J.P. Morgan. Deutsche Bank has
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Speaker 1: partially responded to the commission's subpoena and has indicated it
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Speaker 1: will produce on a rolling basis bank records responsive to
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Speaker 1: the subpoena To the same extent, bank records have been
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Speaker 1: provided in response to prior investigations. Deutsche Bank has indicated
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Speaker 1: the volume of these materials at approximately 60,000 pages. The
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Speaker 1: promised records have been partially made available and are pending
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Speaker 1: retention of a financial analyst. J.P. Morgan has failed to
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Speaker 1: respond to the Commission subpoena. J.P. Morgan is investigating whether
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Speaker 1: the subpoena may have been misdirected. Past investigations have established
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Speaker 1: that entities involved in management and operation of Zorro Ranch,
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Speaker 1: engaged in financial transactions that subject them to frequent scrutiny.
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Speaker 1: For instance, Deutsche Bank flagged multiple compliance deficiencies requiring remediation
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Speaker 1: under the Know Your Customer review process. Also, a JP
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Speaker 1: Morgan compliance note for the Zorro-related entity states, Please tag
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Speaker 1: the UBO Ultimate Beneficial Owner as a PEP, Politically Exposed Person,
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Speaker 1: due to his close relationship with Bill Clinton and name redacted.
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Speaker 1: This PEP designation tagging Epstein because of his political connections
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Speaker 1: triggered enhanced due diligence requirements that JP Morgan compliance officers documented,
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Speaker 1: but that did not result in account closure until years later.
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Speaker 1: In addition, TD Bank made a filing with FinCEN under
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Speaker 1: the Bank Secrecy Act, flagging aggregate transactions of $ 14. 66 million
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Speaker 1: between Epstein-related accounts, and HBRK Associates, Inc. Because bank and
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Speaker 1: other records have not been fully produced and are pending
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Speaker 1: detailed inspection and analysis, the Commission at this time defers
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Speaker 1: reporting on whether Epstein and others engaged in financial irregularities
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Speaker 1: in New Mexico. Observations and Continuing Investigation Review of the
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Speaker 1: available evidence, including records produced in response to the Commission subpoenas,
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Speaker 1: is incomplete and ongoing. Findings and recommendations will be deferred
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Speaker 1: until issuance of the final investigation report. If there are
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Speaker 1: survivors who have yet to come forward or to be found,
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Speaker 1: the Commission welcomes their reports and will do its utmost
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Speaker 1: to find them. If there are perpetrators yet to identify,
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Speaker 1: the Commission will do its utmost to find them. Observations
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Speaker 1: Given the record as it currently stands, it's possible and
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Speaker 1: appropriate to make some obvious observations about the record. even
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Speaker 1: while the investigation contemplates further factual refinement and revelation. First,
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Speaker 1: Epstein maintained power and influence despite his sex offender status.
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Speaker 1: The 2000 federal non-prosecution agreement allowed Epstein to continue his
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Speaker 1: life largely uninterrupted until 2019 when he was picked up
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Speaker 1: by federal authorities. He was first imprisoned in 2008-2009 and
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Speaker 1: even when he was released from a Florida jail on
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Speaker 1: work release for up to 12 hours a day. Until
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Speaker 1: he was arrested in July 2019 by federal prosecutors in
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Speaker 1: New York and indicted in Manhattan federal court on two counts,
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Speaker 1: sex trafficking conspiracy, count one, and sex trafficking of minors,
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Speaker 1: count two. He was able to abuse in New Mexico.
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Speaker 1: When he was ultimately charged, he was accused of sexually
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Speaker 1: exploiting and abusing dozens of underage girls as young as
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Speaker 1: 14 at his homes in Manhattan and Palm Beach between
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Speaker 1: 2002 and 2005. with no charges related directly to New Mexico.
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Speaker 1: Since his conviction for solicitation of prostitution from a minor
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Speaker 1: in 2008, reports of Epstein's systematic abuse of women and
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Speaker 1: girls was publicly known. Nonetheless, persons of the highest rank
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Speaker 1: still took from Epstein's wealth and continued to vie for
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Speaker 1: inclusion in his circle of friends. Government officials, law enforcement,
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Speaker 1: university professors, scientists, lawyers, celebrities, and other persons with power
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Speaker 1: and wealth continue to have relationships with Epstein and those
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Speaker 1: within his operation. A second observation is that Epstein operated
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Speaker 1: his systematic sex abuse operation in plain sight, making little
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Speaker 1: effort to hide the evidence and indica of his criminal enterprise.
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Speaker 1: Many of those invited to Epstein's circle would have seen
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Speaker 1: the endless stream of young women and minors who were
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Speaker 1: present on his aircraft and on his ranch. A third
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Speaker 1: and final observation is that those in law enforcement most
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Speaker 1: responsible for protecting New Mexicans from Epstein, played a passive
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Speaker 1: role in investigating him, letting others in Miami and New
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Speaker 1: York do it. As a result, the conduct of Epstein
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Speaker 1: and his co-conspirators in New Mexico went unexamined and unpunished.
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Speaker 1: Ongoing investigation. The commission will continue its review and assimilation
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Speaker 1: of records obtained by subpoena and other sources. will issue
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Speaker 1: follow-up subpoenas and process, and will continue to interview witnesses,
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Speaker 1: including those with personal knowledge of activity at Zorro Ranch.
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Speaker 1: Governmental and law enforcement authorities with a responsibility to monitor
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Speaker 1: and investigate Epstein and his co-conspirators and other actors as
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Speaker 1: identified in this interim report. Going forward, the commission endeavors
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Speaker 1: to uncover the truth. So many for too long were
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Speaker 1: blind to. All right, folks, well, that's going to do it.
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Speaker 1: for the New Mexico Interim Report on Jeffrey Epstein. And
1:07:34
Speaker 1: when the next part comes out, we'll get that bad
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Speaker 1: boy added to the catalog as well. All the information
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Speaker 1: that goes with this episode can be found in the
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Speaker 1: description box.