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Hutton & Withrow: What’s Wrong with Arkansas Football? Trey Biddy Breaks Down the Razorbacks’ Crisis | Hour 2 · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 2: is too big or too small. Hutton, the YouTube chat
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  Speaker 2: is blowing up. Tipping advice, what to do. Mark is
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  Speaker 2: saying you should look someone right in the eyes, our
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  Speaker 2: guy Mark, and just put zero down.
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  Speaker 3: As the tip.
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  Speaker 2: Jay Carey has the quote. It's going to ask you
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  Speaker 2: a question as they tell you, as they turn it
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  Speaker 2: towards you every time. Mark correctly brings up, it's not
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  Speaker 2: multiple questions. It's one question. Every time when this is
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  Speaker 2: going to ask you a couple of questions, that question
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  Speaker 2: is about the tip. So people have lots of thoughts
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  Speaker 2: on the tip.
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  Speaker 3: I would.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is I've jotted down something for primary complaint
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  Speaker 1: next week based on this conversation. But the complaint within
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  Speaker 1: the tipping complaint is a good one. Chad, I don't
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  Speaker 1: have any complaints about Shane Beamer as as a coach
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  Speaker 1: or a person. In fact, I root for him. I'm
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  Speaker 1: not ashamed to say that. Like, I like the guy.
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  Speaker 1: I really do. He's always been able and a bit
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  Speaker 1: available for our show. His players collectively came back and
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  Speaker 1: wanted to play another year with him or for another
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  Speaker 1: year with him. I like that aspect, too. That's rare,
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  Speaker 1: you know, instead of scattering all over the country and
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  Speaker 1: trying to, you know, let me be blunt, go win
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  Speaker 1: instead of face the pressure of having to win a
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  Speaker 1: game or two to keep your coach's job. And let
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  Speaker 1: me end it by saying I don't think he's going
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  Speaker 1: to keep his job.
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  Speaker 4: I don't.
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  Speaker 1: At South Carolina. But I'm rooting for him to do so.
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  Speaker 1: But games like this past weekend are reasons why he won't.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was asked about the hangover effect of
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  Speaker 2: that game. The one thing about Shane Beamer I'll say,
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  Speaker 2: and I like the guy a lot too, he pretends
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  Speaker 2: to not look at his phone and not know what's
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  Speaker 2: being said. about certain things while clearly looking at his
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  Speaker 2: phone and paying attention to what's being said on social media.
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  Speaker 2: Because at one point, and I don't think we're going
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  Speaker 2: to hear it in this clip, but he even talked about, oh,
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  Speaker 2: I haven't looked at my phone, but I know my
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  Speaker 2: guys have seen a lot of talk about the season
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  Speaker 2: being over because we lost this one game.
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  Speaker 1: And he's admitted that his son will tell him what
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  Speaker 1: kids are talking about at school. So he knows the talk.
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  Speaker 2: So here was Shane Beamer talking about the loss to
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  Speaker 2: Mississippi State and how South Carolina is going to move forward.
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  Speaker 4: What's kind of the main message heading into Saturday.
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  Speaker 5: To the team?
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  Speaker 1: Got to respond. I mean, we've got a loss.
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  Speaker 4: Texas A & M has a loss in the SEC.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think they're just packing up their stuff and
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  Speaker 4: calling it a season. LSU's got a loss in the SEC.
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  Speaker 4: Auburn's got a loss in the SEC. I think there's
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  Speaker 4: five teams that haven't played a game in the SEC, Mingo,
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  Speaker 4: so we have a loss. So that's the message is
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  Speaker 4: we lost a football game. And now we've got nine left.
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  Speaker 4: We've got 25% of the season that we've played. I
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  Speaker 4: don't like being two and one. We've got 75% of
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  Speaker 4: the regular season left.
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  Speaker 3: And let's go play football.
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  Speaker 4: And if you've got a competitive bone in your body,
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  Speaker 4: that's not a problem.
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  Speaker 5: Like we've moved on.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, in this building, like we've moved on. Saturday sucked.
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  Speaker 4: We're not going to sit around and feel sorry for ourselves.
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  Speaker 4: Like that's life, guys.
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  Speaker 5: Stuff happens. And we've moved on.
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  Speaker 4: And everybody else can talk about what does that look
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  Speaker 4: like and how are the comparisons to 26 and 25
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  Speaker 4: and 24 and what are you telling your team? I
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  Speaker 4: ain't got to tell my team anything. We go respond
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  Speaker 4: and we go back to work. That's what we've done
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  Speaker 4: this week and love the response so far. Now we
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  Speaker 4: got to go play well.
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  Speaker 5: And guess what?
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  Speaker 3: It's called sports.
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  Speaker 4: They may play better and coach better than us Saturday
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  Speaker 4: night and they may win the football game and we'll
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  Speaker 4: come back in here on Sunday and get right back
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  Speaker 4: to work again because that's what life in the SEC is.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Alabama, I just talked about them last year.
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  Speaker 4: Notre Dame lost to Northern Illinois two years ago. They
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  Speaker 4: didn't shut down the program and blow everything up. They
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  Speaker 4: responded and they went and played for the national championship
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  Speaker 4: game in the same season.
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  Speaker 3: So that's how, that's easy.
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  Speaker 4: That's the message.
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  Speaker 3: I love that. And he's right.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, if you're inside of it, Hutton, and you've
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  Speaker 2: been inside of NFL locker rooms and around teams, like
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  Speaker 2: the way the outside public responds or even media responds
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  Speaker 2: to a disappointing moment or a loss is often way different,
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  Speaker 2: especially from the teams that are about the right things.
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  Speaker 2: It is you get up, you go back to work,
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  Speaker 2: you start to think about the next game and worry
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  Speaker 2: about what you can do moving forward. You don't have
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  Speaker 2: time to sit around and wallow. No one's going to
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  Speaker 2: feel sorry for you is what he's saying. No one's
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  Speaker 2: feeling sorry for A & M and LSU either. They
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  Speaker 2: lost a game. They're going to have to rally and
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  Speaker 2: try to win more games, and there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the season still left. I love what Shane Beamer had
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  Speaker 2: to say, and he's right. I mean, it is sports.
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  Speaker 2: There are times where the other team is just better,
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  Speaker 2: or there are times where you go down and you
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  Speaker 2: piss down your leg in a game, and you're going
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  Speaker 2: to lose, or they're going to out-coach you and out-play you.
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  Speaker 2: All these things happen. If you've been around sports long enough,
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  Speaker 2: you realize this. There is a do-or-die culture, I think,
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  Speaker 2: in how the sport is covered. especially in college football,
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't lend itself for that type of perspective we
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  Speaker 2: just heard.
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  Speaker 1: And coaches know this, and the best ones do, because players, students,
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  Speaker 1: those guys are not stupid. They can tell when the
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  Speaker 1: staff is panicking a bit. They can tell when the
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  Speaker 1: vibe will shift to change. The coaches who are the
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  Speaker 1: most consistent win or loss, following a loss, following a win,
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  Speaker 1: generally continue down the same path with the locker room
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  Speaker 1: and leadership. They don't start pointing fingers, the players don't,
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  Speaker 1: and they don't throw in the towel saying, well, the
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  Speaker 1: coaches are changing our entire plan of what we work
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  Speaker 1: for all season. As long as you're consistent with the messaging,
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  Speaker 1: you tend to get the same rebound effect despite the
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  Speaker 1: early loss in the season.
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  Speaker 2: And I think consistency is key with John Sumrall also,
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  Speaker 2: because this guy consistently will just say what he's thinking,
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  Speaker 2: and he is so matter-of-fact and direct that... I don't
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  Speaker 2: even think that it's pre-planned. I just think he's honestly
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  Speaker 2: answering a question like he was here when Brandon Walker
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  Speaker 2: asked him about getting ready for the atmosphere in the
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  Speaker 2: swamp on Saturday.
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  Speaker 6: You were just on the road at Auburn, 90,000, 100,000
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  Speaker 6: people going crazy, absolutely nuts atmosphere. And for the first time,
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  Speaker 6: I believe, this weekend when you welcome, I mean, this
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  Speaker 6: will be the swamp at its swampiest. This is going
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  Speaker 6: to be crazy. It's going to be a great atmosphere.
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  Speaker 6: It's going to be everything. Have you thought about that
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  Speaker 6: atmosphere and what it's going to feel like on Saturday?
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  Speaker 5: I have.
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  Speaker 7: I mean, full disclosure, our FAU game blew me away.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Opening game and really not like our FAU game.
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  Speaker 7: The crowd I felt was livelier than what we played
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  Speaker 7: in on Saturday night. Like, so I can only imagine
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  Speaker 7: what that's going to feel like when you bring a
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  Speaker 7: top five team into this place. And Ole Miss is
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  Speaker 7: a really good football team. I have a lot of confidence. Our,
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  Speaker 7: our fan base is going to have an impact. I
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  Speaker 7: love it.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to let you give a compliment to
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  Speaker 2: Auburn and their atmosphere because and their fans without me
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  Speaker 2: saying that our game against FAU was more rowdy and
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  Speaker 2: louder in the swamp than it was Saturday night for
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  Speaker 2: a big SEC versus SEC matchup between Florida and Auburn.
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  Speaker 3: I like this guy. People think that.
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  Speaker 2: It's performative or that he's being a fake tough guy
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  Speaker 2: or this and that. I think John Sumrall is being
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  Speaker 2: exactly who he is. I think Will Stein is being
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  Speaker 2: exactly who he is. Two guys that we've interviewed on
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  Speaker 2: our show before that feel like dudes we would hang
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  Speaker 2: out with and go grab a beer with at some point.
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  Speaker 2: And they're going to tell you honestly exactly how they feel.
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  Speaker 2: I love both of them. I think that's, let me
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  Speaker 2: put Beamer in there too.
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  Speaker 1: Different approaches. But that's him. He just beat himself as well.
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  Speaker 1: I think those that are willing to let you know about–
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  Speaker 1: that are willing to answer a question, a simple question of,
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  Speaker 1: what's the pressure like? You absolutely feel it. The playoff
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  Speaker 1: or pink slip approach. Those that say, oh, we're every
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  Speaker 1: other season. You can tell whether it's coach speak or
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  Speaker 1: coach truth. And I think many times the– Those that
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  Speaker 1: will sit down in an interview and just kind of
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  Speaker 1: gloss around the edges of things instead of just directly
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  Speaker 1: answer a question, that's probably how they stand in front
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  Speaker 1: of their team when things get tough. They try not
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  Speaker 1: to make their team feel pressure instead of just saying, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's here. It's evident that it's right in front of us.
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  Speaker 1: How are we going to handle things? You can tell
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  Speaker 1: that those guys handle it the right way. And the
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  Speaker 1: locker room speech by Summerall, also just off the cuff.
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  Speaker 1: And the players respond to that too, man. It's hard
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  Speaker 1: not to get fired up playing for him.
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  Speaker 2: I think he's going to do very well at Florida.
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  Speaker 2: I think that– I'm not saying Florida's all the way back.
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  Speaker 2: I need to see a little bit more from him
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  Speaker 2: and what they're going to do. But that was a
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  Speaker 2: great win on the road at Auburn. And if they
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  Speaker 2: beat Ole Miss on Saturday and knock them off after
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  Speaker 2: what they did to LSU and beat Trinidad-Chamberlain's, I think
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  Speaker 2: I'm prepared to say that Florida is probably all the
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  Speaker 2: way back at that point, year one. under John Sumrall.
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  Speaker 2: Teams that are not back cutting. I've got the top
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  Speaker 2: five worst vibes. We did best vibes yesterday, top five
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  Speaker 2: worst vibes in college football, and that's going to bleed
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  Speaker 2: out why. Why is number one on my list today?
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  Speaker 2: the worst vibes in college football. That is straight ahead
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  Speaker 1: Trey Biddy from Hawk Sports is going to join us
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  Speaker 1: in a couple of minutes here. Chad, we had your
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  Speaker 1: best vibes across college football yesterday. Now we get to
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  Speaker 1: the worst vibes for programs. Where do you start this week?
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to start at number five this week, the
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  Speaker 2: Oklahoma Sooners. They just beat New Mexico 14-6 after looking
• 11:47
  Speaker 2: terribly offensively at Michigan and Ann Arbor. And when Brent
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  Speaker 2: Venables was asked to ask the game, hey, what do
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  Speaker 2: you have that's working on offense? And he just said nothing.
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  Speaker 2: Did you watch the game? I mean, we just scored
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  Speaker 2: 14 points. There's nothing that's working. There's no flow. Nothing's
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  Speaker 2: happening offensively for the Sooners. Some bad vibes around that
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  Speaker 2: program after– High expectations for John Mateer and that team
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  Speaker 2: coming into the season. Number four is Colorado and Deion Sanders.
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  Speaker 2: Deion's kicking guys off the team, but Colorado won't confirm
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: which players are kicked off the team until later in
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  Speaker 2: the week. He's talking about guys laughing and cutting up
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  Speaker 2: after getting blown out by Northwestern. He's making inferences to
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  Speaker 2: Boo Carter being a culture issue and a personality problem
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  Speaker 2: and maybe not a fit.
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee fans could have warned you about that one.
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  Speaker 2: That was probably going to go south at some point,
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  Speaker 2: and now maybe Boo Carter is no longer on the team.
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  Speaker 2: It's really bad for Colorado, so they're number four. Number
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  Speaker 2: three on the list, the Maryland Terrapins. Maryland and Mike Loxley,
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  Speaker 2: they lose to James Franklin, who betrayed them when he
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  Speaker 2: left as the coach in waiting years ago and said
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  Speaker 2: some bad things about Maryland. Maryland people aren't happy with
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  Speaker 2: James Franklin. Virginia Tech beats Maryland. And then Mike Loxley
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  Speaker 2: is getting questions like this.
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  Speaker 5: At the podium.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, Mike.
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  Speaker 8: You said it after the game Saturday. You said it
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  Speaker 8: several times after losses over the years that you're going
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  Speaker 8: to learn from it. You're going to get things fixed, corrected.
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  Speaker 2: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Losses like Saturday.
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  Speaker 8: Continue to happen where you get outcoached, you get outplayed,
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  Speaker 8: and then you come out afterward and you make those
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  Speaker 8: same promises. Do you feel like you deserve more chances
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  Speaker 8: to keep saying you're going to learn from losses when
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  Speaker 8: I think everybody at this point expects more from you?
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  Speaker 9: Go back and break your question down because you seem
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  Speaker 9: like you went on. What are you asking me? Let's
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  Speaker 9: get to that.
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  Speaker 8: After losses like Saturday, you keep saying that you're going.
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  Speaker 3: To learn from them.
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  Speaker 2: Got it.
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  Speaker 9: Okay, I understand that. So it goes back to what
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  Speaker 9: my opening statement was, was that I understand why you
• 13:52
  Speaker 9: asked the question, why you say those things. I understand
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  Speaker 9: why the fans are frustrated. They've earned the right for
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  Speaker 9: us to play better than we have. It won't get
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  Speaker 9: fixed here at the podium. It gets fixed across the
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  Speaker 9: street with the work we do. We continue to do
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  Speaker 9: the work. We continue to improve. We'll continue to do
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  Speaker 9: the things we have to do to earn their trust back.
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  Speaker 5: Coach, obviously.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. Mike Loxley. Not happy with that question.
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  Speaker 3: Handled it pretty well.
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  Speaker 1: He handled it very well.
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  Speaker 3: I feel bad for Mike Loxley. Seems like a really
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  Speaker 3: nice guy.
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  Speaker 2: And yeah, that was one that I would say Jared
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  Speaker 2: Stillman got his media credential revoked for far less than
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  Speaker 2: that in terms of a question. But that was a
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  Speaker 2: tough question to ask, and I know where he's going
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  Speaker 2: with that, but there's probably a more delicate way to
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  Speaker 2: ask the question instead of, hey, I think people rightfully
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  Speaker 2: so are upset that you don't learn from your mistakes,
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  Speaker 2: and why should you still be around here?
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  Speaker 3: That's a tough question to ask a coach.
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  Speaker 1: I would say both media members deserve their credential, and
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  Speaker 1: the Titans should take a look at this as an
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  Speaker 1: example of tough questions.
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  Speaker 2: That's a great, great point. You want an example of
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  Speaker 2: a tough day? NC State, number two.
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  Speaker 3: On the list.
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  Speaker 2: NC State found a way to steal a loss from
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  Speaker 2: a victory. In one of the most improbable ways, something
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  Speaker 2: we'll always remember is that game.
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  Speaker 3: C.J.
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  Speaker 2: Bailey, unfortunately for him, will never live that moment down
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  Speaker 2: for NC State and how they coughed it up against
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  Speaker 2: Vandy in that game. Dave Doran under fire now. The
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  Speaker 2: whole NC State program under fire. They had a ton
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  Speaker 2: of fans in Nashville to watch them play that game.
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  Speaker 2: They looked like they were on their way to a
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  Speaker 2: huge Victory on the road over an SEC opponent, and
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  Speaker 2: then the Music City nightmare happened. They're number two on
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  Speaker 2: the list. Number one on the list, Hutton, and I'm
• 15:48
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• 15:52
  Speaker 2: what an awful crowd on Saturday. All the video circulating
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• 16:03
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• 16:06
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  Speaker 3: We're going to ask the question, why?
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• 16:19
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  Speaker 1: Boxsports.com, covering everything for Arkansas, Trey Bitty. joins us right
• 17:06
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• 17:08
  Speaker 1: thank you for the time, man, and the time right now,
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: Arkansas needs a win in the worst way coming up
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: this week.
• 17:17
  Speaker 5: They really do, and it's a scary appointment, but now
• 17:20
  Speaker 5: Tulsa's going to be without their quarterback, and so, you know,
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: that's an advantage for Arkansas, but this is a team
• 17:24
  Speaker 5: that knocked off Oklahoma State in week one, so Yeah,
• 17:28
  Speaker 5: when you're playing Tulsa, you should probably be, as an
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: SEC team, at minimum a 17-point favorite, but Arkansas is
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: just favored by a touchdown in this.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: What's the atmosphere like with the crowd, and what's the
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: vibe like within the team in response to the crowd?
• 17:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, the team hasn't said anything about
• 17:49
  Speaker 5: the crowd. Now, there was probably 60,000, maybe a little
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: bit more than that. It was just very late arriving.
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: It was an 11 o'clock game. It was against the
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: number two team in the country that nobody felt like
• 17:58
  Speaker 5: Arkansas had a chance against. So that definitely impacted the crowd,
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: and they definitely cleared out at halftime as well. But, yeah,
• 18:06
  Speaker 5: I mean, I just think that there's a level of apathy.
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: I don't know that it's all necessarily firmly directed at Silverfield,
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: although some of it is, obviously. A lot of it's
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: directed towards higher up, athletic director and stuff. I think
• 18:18
  Speaker 5: fans are just tired of losing. And I think they
• 18:21
  Speaker 5: felt like they were told a certain thing that Arkansas
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: was going to be in this situation in terms of
• 18:26
  Speaker 5: finances and NIL budget and all that stuff. And yes,
• 18:30
  Speaker 5: I think that they have improved their overall football budget.
• 18:33
  Speaker 5: We know that they have. But when that report came
• 18:36
  Speaker 5: out from The Athletic that ranked Arkansas dead last in
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: the SEC based on their research in NIL, that really
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: frustrated fans because they felt like they'd been sold a
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: bill of goods. So, yeah, I think there's a lot
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: of frustration at the top. But, I mean, guys, this
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: football program has been in hell for 14 years. There's
• 18:52
  Speaker 5: a couple of blips on the radar. I mean, people
• 18:54
  Speaker 5: are just tired of losing.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and trust me, I totally understand that. And Arkansas,
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: with the money and the businesses there in northwest Arkansas,
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: feels like what John Calipari's been able to do with basketball,
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: feels like they could have more of a commitment to football.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I'm just surprised, Trey, that it's so quick with Ryan
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: Silverfield in this program. You know, all the guy had
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: done so far is he went to Utah and lost
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: a game that everybody expected Arkansas to lose going into
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: that game, right? And when you look at the possibilities
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: once they didn't get Alex Golish, I guess it was,
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: I don't know who Arkansas fans were expecting in terms
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: of the hire. Are they disappointed in the hire? Are
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: they disappointed in some aspect of Ryan Silverfield and what
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: he said? or what he's done so far, where does
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: that animosity come from towards Silverfield and his team?
• 19:46
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I think you settle into an expectation. Everybody expected
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: it to be goalish and when it was named. Basically,
• 19:52
  Speaker 5: Silverfield was the guy that ESPN put as the favorite
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: to land the Arkansas job from the very beginning. And
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: so I think you go all the way to the end,
• 20:00
  Speaker 5: you have this long, drawn-out coaching search, and you end
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: up with the guy that they told you that you're
• 20:04
  Speaker 5: going to end up with the whole time. So I
• 20:08
  Speaker 5: think that's part of it. And I think it was just,
• 20:09
  Speaker 5: it was unexpected. You know, people look and they say,
• 20:12
  Speaker 5: why did he lose his last three games and all
• 20:13
  Speaker 5: that stuff? But this isn't all on Ryan Silverfield. The
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: biggest mistake that Silverfield made, I think, is not bringing
• 20:20
  Speaker 5: in a proven quarterback. That is, that would not fix
• 20:24
  Speaker 5: everything on this team, but that would go a long way.
• 20:27
  Speaker 5: I mean, you look at the best teams, they have
• 20:29
  Speaker 5: a dynamic quarterback. And so I think that was part
• 20:32
  Speaker 5: of it. But again, I think most of the angst
• 20:35
  Speaker 5: from Fans is pointed higher up, but, you know, you
• 20:38
  Speaker 5: see the product on the field. They can't throw the ball.
• 20:41
  Speaker 5: They're the worst run team in power, power for their
• 20:46
  Speaker 5: worst team in power for when it comes to, you know,
• 20:48
  Speaker 5: average yards per carry. And they're one of the worst
• 20:51
  Speaker 5: teams on defense when it comes to stopping the run.
• 20:53
  Speaker 5: So it just it doesn't feel like there's anything that
• 20:55
  Speaker 5: they can really hang their hat on. You talk about
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: the Utah game, but they were it was over. In
• 21:01
  Speaker 5: no time. They weren't even competitive in it. And I
• 21:03
  Speaker 5: think a lot of fans look back at last year
• 21:05
  Speaker 5: and say, you know what, they lost eight games by
• 21:07
  Speaker 5: a score or less. They lost the Auburn game also
• 21:11
  Speaker 5: where they had a lead in the fourth quarter, and
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: that wasn't even one of those eight. So I think
• 21:15
  Speaker 5: people look at the team and they're like, you know,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: they're basically saying how are we worse than we were
• 21:19
  Speaker 5: last year.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: What should Arkansas be?
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I have a hard time trying to slot SEC teams
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and what the expectation is and what is realistic.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: For the fan base.
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: Certainly it's better than this, right, Trey? But where should
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Arkansas be in a perfect world?
• 21:35
  Speaker 5: If Missouri can do it and Ole Miss can do
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: it and Mississippi State can do what they're doing starting
• 21:40
  Speaker 5: off this year, Arkansas can absolutely do it. I mean, Arkansas,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: I would argue, has more tradition than any of those.
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: You might make an argument with Ole Miss, you know,
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: especially lately. But if you go back, you know, if
• 21:52
  Speaker 5: you're ranking the top 25 programs of all time, Arkansas
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: is usually going to come up on that list and
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: most wins all time. But it's a different era. And
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: this kind of bleeds back into your last question also.
• 22:05
  Speaker 5: 2026 and beyond is different than any other era in
• 22:09
  Speaker 5: the past. You don't even say, like, oh, it's not
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: 2016 anymore. It's not 2025 anymore. Teams can come in
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: right away and build a program that is competitive immediately
• 22:20
  Speaker 5: because if you're hired as a new coach, you've got,
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: you know, four, five, six weeks to get your staff
• 22:25
  Speaker 5: together to attack the transfer portal. And, you know, we–
• 22:30
  Speaker 5: even last year, there was not a single power for coach,
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: a first year coach who had a winning record, not
• 22:35
  Speaker 5: a single one power for coaches this year who took
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: over new programs are like, it's like 39 and eight,
• 22:45
  Speaker 5: 39 wins and eight losses. It's just a different era
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: than it's ever been before. So at Arkansas, if those,
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: if those places can do it, then Arkansas absolutely can
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: do it. They have to get Walmart involved. I mean,
• 22:57
  Speaker 5: you're talking about a massive company and you know, there
• 23:00
  Speaker 5: are people with billions of dollars. I mean, you're talking
• 23:02
  Speaker 5: about like Alice Walton alone and, you know, her sibling,
• 23:06
  Speaker 5: they're over a hundred billion, you know, I mean, they
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: have money and, uh, Arkansas has got to figure out
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: a way to, to impact to them the importance for
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: community to have success at Arkansas. I mean, it, it,
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: it lifts all boats, you know, as they say.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Well, and you mentioned Kentucky there also, how much does
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: Will Stein and John Sumrall and their their youthful exuberance
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: and personality.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: How much is that?
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: And we interviewed Ryan Silverfield in Tampa.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: He was great.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: It was one of my favorite interviews there. I thought
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: he did a great job and showed some personality. But
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: how much does that also affect the fan base saying, man,
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: we got to go get one of those guys when
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: you see Will Stein and Summerall and how they are
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: on the sideline?
• 23:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well, they're having success. I mean, I'm sure if
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: they weren't having success, we would be picking them apart
• 23:54
  Speaker 5: for every flaw that they have. I mean, that's just
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: the way we are. Everybody loved Tim Cramsey. He's got
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: this raspy voice. He's like from Pennsylvania. Everybody loves the
• 24:03
  Speaker 5: way he talks. And then next thing, everybody's mocking the
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: way he talks because the offense isn't doing well. With Silverfield, again,
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: I don't think that there's anything in particular that you
• 24:12
  Speaker 5: look at Silverfield and say, like, this guy is a–
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: he is the problem. It is way too early for that,
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: in my opinion. And, again, the biggest mistake that he
• 24:20
  Speaker 5: made was, A, probably not having the budget that some
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: of these other SEC schools have. That's no reason to look,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: you know, kind of crappy against North Texas or to
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: be completely blown out against Utah, a team with very
• 24:31
  Speaker 5: similar resources as Arkansas. In fact, according to the NIL stuff,
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: Arkansas has better resources. But to me, the problem is
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: higher up. And I think that's why you see an
• 24:43
  Speaker 5: audit of the football department right now, the board of
• 24:45
  Speaker 5: trustees and the president. And, yeah, people are basically asking, like,
• 24:53
  Speaker 5: why are things the way they are? As Ryan Silverfield
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: has said several times, you know, the reason for Arkansas
• 25:00
  Speaker 5: only winning one Power 5 game the last couple years,
• 25:03
  Speaker 5: Power 4 game, goes farther than just coaching or Sam
• 25:07
  Speaker 5: Pittman or, you know, whoever else has led this program
• 25:10
  Speaker 5: in the recent years.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: Pray Bitty joins us. So did other coaches not choose
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: Arkansas because of the NIL investment and Silverfield did? Or
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: is Silverfield also one that may feel like he was
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: sold a bill of goods?
• 25:25
  Speaker 5: Maybe. I mean, it kind of felt, I almost feel
• 25:29
  Speaker 5: like he maybe thought he had more to work with
• 25:31
  Speaker 5: this year than he did in NIL, just based on
• 25:33
  Speaker 5: some comments. He hasn't said that specifically, but just kind
• 25:36
  Speaker 5: of the reading between the lines. I mean, Florida's obviously
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: got better NIL resources right out the gate, a better tradition,
• 25:46
  Speaker 5: same deal with Auburn. You know, I, I think if
• 25:49
  Speaker 5: you're like, if everything is going to be equal, then,
• 25:52
  Speaker 5: you know, most people see more opportunity in Auburn. I mean,
• 25:54
  Speaker 5: especially when you look at just, that's always been the
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: thing that for Arkansas that's, in my opinion, held them back.
• 25:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, it is a wonderful area up here. Like,
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: it's one of the best places to live in the country.
• 26:04
  Speaker 5: It really is. If you look at any, by any
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: metric you look at. And the problem with Arkansas is
• 26:09
  Speaker 5: it's just more remote. And from a recruiting standpoint, the
• 26:12
  Speaker 5: issue has always been access to elite talent. I mean,
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: you go down to Gainesville, you go to Auburn, you
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: look at the you know, the area around Auburn and
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: the area that you have to recruit and there's more competition,
• 26:24
  Speaker 5: but you have, you know, a big area and Arkansas
• 26:26
  Speaker 5: has always kind of gone after guys that, you know,
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: LSU maybe didn't go after or Texas didn't want. Um, and,
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: and you got guys with a chip on their shoulder.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Plus you recruited in state NIL area to me is
• 26:36
  Speaker 5: an opportunity for Arkansas to change the game. They just
• 26:39
  Speaker 5: have to have the finances that puts them back on
• 26:42
  Speaker 5: a leg because if the money's right, then you can
• 26:44
  Speaker 5: recruit from California to North Carolina, you know? So, um,
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: I think people are so frustrated because they see that opportunity, too,
• 26:52
  Speaker 5: and then you just feel like Arkansas hasn't taken advantage
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: of it. Why don't they have some of these billionaires
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: more involved with football?
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: And 30,000-foot view for me here, and you can pinpoint it,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: did those finances just go to basketball? Is this just
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: a basketball school?
• 27:05
  Speaker 5: No, I mean, they didn't. If you look at NILnomics
• 27:09
  Speaker 5: did a breakdown on it, and they had 11.5% of
• 27:11
  Speaker 5: Arkansas's budget going to basketball, which is tops in the SEC. That's,
• 27:19
  Speaker 5: that's more than any, I think, you know, part of
• 27:20
  Speaker 5: that John Calipari makes 7.7 million or something. Right.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:24
  Speaker 5: But football is also one of the top three teams
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: in terms of allocation to football. One of the top
• 27:30
  Speaker 5: three teams in the SEC there, I think the only
• 27:32
  Speaker 5: one in the SEC that was top three in both.
• 27:35
  Speaker 5: So the, the difference is like what, what your pool is,
• 27:40
  Speaker 5: you know, that you're pulling those percentages out of. So,
• 27:43
  Speaker 5: You know, they're invested in football in terms of what
• 27:46
  Speaker 5: their budget is. It's just their budget isn't big enough.
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: Trey, great stuff, man. We appreciate the insight. And the
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: final thing, like, where does this lead to? Like, the crowds,
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: a big game against Tulsa, we mentioned that because of
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: they need to win in the worst way. But expectations
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: have never, you know, they're low. So ultimately, what are
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: we watching this season?
• 28:07
  Speaker 5: Tulsa will be a good crowd, I think. I think people,
• 28:10
  Speaker 5: you know, Want to see a win, obviously. It's the
• 28:12
  Speaker 5: first night game since they installed the new lights and
• 28:15
  Speaker 5: the new laser system. So I think that there will
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: be a good crowd. But can we talk after the
• 28:21
  Speaker 5: Tulsa game? It's like depending on how that goes, could
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: determine a lot of how this fan base feels. I mean,
• 28:32
  Speaker 5: you're able to maybe generate a little bit of momentum
• 28:33
  Speaker 5: if you can get a win.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: Good stuff, man.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: We appreciate it as always. Great to see you again.
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  Speaker 5: Yep, good to be on, guys.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Hey, thanks, Trey.
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• 31:34
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• 31:40
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• 31:43
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• 31:46
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• 31:50
  Speaker 1: And when you see– if you're Tulsa, when you see
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: the way Arkansas has been playing, I would be– extremely
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: confident going into this with the way my team had
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: been playing at that time versus the SEC opponent. A
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: chance to go on the road and potentially win outright
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: in this game.
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  Speaker 2: Let me also say that if Saquon Barkley does not
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: get hurt on the first play we hit this parlay
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: with our three entries last week, that was a tough
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: one to swallow.
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to Vandy this week at Auburn.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: I think Auburn probably wins a close game, but 9.5%
• 32:27
  Speaker 2: I like Vandy covering the 9.5. This is a program
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: that is 14-3 over their last 17 games. They just
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: won by a miracle at home at NC State. I
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: say that to say there are good vibes around Vandy's program.
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: They are finding ways to get things done. They're finding
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: ways to win. I'm watching highlights of a few of
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: those passes from Jared Curtis in that second half. Dude
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: looks like a future top-10 pick in the NFL draft,
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: physically with his skill set. Auburn has not really gotten
• 32:55
  Speaker 2: it going yet. much this year yet. I like Alex
• 32:59
  Speaker 2: Golish a lot. Again, I think they probably win at home,
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: but I love Vanderbilt to cover the nine and a
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: half on the road at Auburn this weekend.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Well, and I view this as like the way that
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: you have the momentum coming off of the way they
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: won that game and the fact that Curtis is playing,
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: they come back in that game, as you mentioned, there
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: is a belief in things just going their way. That's
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: a moment that can spark a turn in the overall
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: body of work that we're seeing from the Commodores, which
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: has not been good. It has not been consistent, but
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: they get the victory over a team that had that
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: and gave it away. You know, they grabbed a a
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: loss from the jaws of victory in that game. NC
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: State did.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you look at that, though, and just think, they're
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: not losing by double digits.
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: No. I do not see them going to Auburn. All
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: the success.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: They beat Auburn a year ago. I know Pavia was
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: there and all that.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: It was a good game.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: I think it was an overtime game, maybe. But a
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: really close game in Nashville. But I just don't think
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: they're losing by double digits, this team.
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: And then two years ago, Chad, they had the pregame speech.
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: It's at that game, the pregame speech, where Clark Lee
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: is saying, No one believes in this team in this
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: locker room and everyone outside. They weren't even paying attention
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to you during their laughing. They're cutting up during warm-ups.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Did you see how they were warming up on the field?
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: You had Pavia and other players getting in a scrap
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: postgame after Pavia's bragging about winning the Iron Bowl. There's
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: bad blood there, but Vanderbilt knows how to go on
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: the road and win in that stadium.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a year ago, 45-38 Vandy in overtime. was that
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: game in November for them over Auburn. Again, give me
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: the doors plus nine and a half. They're not losing
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: this game by double digits.
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: We always add JT as our third of the three-team parlay.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: JT won last week with his leg.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: Yes, he did. JT, where are we headed?
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that I like USC. A sellout at home,
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: Lincoln Riley's 4-0.
• 34:57
  Speaker 10: I think that we've seen some bad crowds there, but
• 35:00
  Speaker 10: I kind of like what's going on there. Oregon, first
• 35:04
  Speaker 10: true road game of the season with Dan Lanning. Their
• 35:06
  Speaker 10: defense has been pretty inconsistent. And, you know, I just
• 35:11
  Speaker 10: think it's, I'm not going to say a no-brainer, but
• 35:15
  Speaker 10: I really like USC at home coming up this weekend.
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: See, I think that stadium's going to be packed because
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: of Oregon fans.
• 35:22
  Speaker 2: I'm surprised JT didn't have the balls to go money line.
• 35:25
  Speaker 2: with USC on that one. I thought he might go outright,
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: USC to pull off the upset at home and get
• 35:30
  Speaker 2: a little bit more plus money. I do not feel
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: confident in that pick. JT wins.
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: JT does a great job here. This is JT's pick.
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: It'll probably hit because I'm not confident in it. I
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: have little confidence in USC, mainly because I picked USC
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: to cover 23 and a half in freaking Piscataway against
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: Rutgers a week ago, and they win by a touchdown. So,
• 35:53
  Speaker 2: I'm coming in pissed off at USC to begin with.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: So I'm not confident in that one. But, hey, there
• 35:59
  Speaker 3: you go. There's our three-leg going for the bundle parlay.
• 36:02
  Speaker 10: Did you not feel the same way when Vandy was–
• 36:04
  Speaker 10: I mean, looking at– and I don't disagree with you.
• 36:08
  Speaker 10: Vandy was down 17 points last weekend.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: Oh, it was over. Yeah, no, Vandy had no business
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: winning that game.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: I just look at that and I say they were
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: both bad enough to get beat and get down 17-0
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: to NC State.
• 36:22
  Speaker 3: And really to lose that game. But there's also this.
• 36:25
  Speaker 2: Mojo around that program that they come up with a
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: miraculous play to win the game. And their quarterback's got
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: some swag now. I know he threw the late interception
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: the last time he was on the field, but I
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: feel like he's only going to get better and better.
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: And I'm just not a big believer in Auburn right now. Hey,
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: maybe Auburn responds. after their crowd got called out by Florida,
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: John Sumrall, and they come out and whip Vandy.
• 36:51
  Speaker 3: But I'd like them to cover that 9.5. I'm curious, too.
• 36:54
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• 36:59
  Speaker 1: had Auburn beat Florida? If it's vice versa, Auburn wins,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Vandy loses, I don't think we're questioning this at all.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think you're probably right. Let's just win. Let's
• 37:13
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• 37:16
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  Speaker 2: The race to Arch seems to be on right now
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  Speaker 2: with a few teams in the NFL. The Falcons certainly
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  Speaker 5: Arch.
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