Latest / The Central Indiana Sports Report / IndyCar Nashville Reaction with Dave Chanley & Michelle Garmon (2.309.2)
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- 0:08[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome everybody to a delayed edition of the indie car report with Elijah Poe, without Elijah Poe because Elijah is out covering some baseball and has a big award ceremony tomorrow, so we will hear from him on Thursday but we do have with us.
- 0:26[SPEAKER_02]: Tipton Tribunal would call either sports editor, Michelle Garmin, and Dave Chamley, who was at the race in Nashville Friday Saturday Sunday and Monday.
- 0:36[SPEAKER_02]: You're here to talk all about it.
- 0:37[SPEAKER_02]: Dave, first of all, how was your experience and how was your weekend?
- 0:42[SPEAKER_01]: The weekend in total was great.
- 0:44[SPEAKER_01]: We went on Friday to Nashville, went to the Ryman, went to Vanderbilt and went to Belmont University.
- 0:55[SPEAKER_01]: to the Hermitage, which is Andrew Jackson, and I am a fascinating, I love history.
- 1:02[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm going with you next time, Dave.
- 1:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that was great.
- 1:06[SPEAKER_01]: And then Saturday, we were in the garage area early and left late, and it was fantastic.
- 1:15[SPEAKER_01]: Then came Sunday.
- 1:19[SPEAKER_01]: And what I will say, I'm gonna put it in the form of winners and losers.
- 1:24[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm gonna start out with a negative illusion.
- 1:26[SPEAKER_01]: It's the biggest loser for this weekend was Indie Car itself.
- 1:31[SPEAKER_01]: The way it played out, we'll partially say Fox is responsible because they put the two back to back the FIFA I get it and it was gonna be great, but FIFA went long.
- 1:50[SPEAKER_01]: And if it hadn't have gone long, they would have at least been able to start the Indie Car race.
- 1:56[SPEAKER_00]: Hey Dave?
- 1:56[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.
- 1:57[SPEAKER_00]: Real quick to clarify that.
- 1:59[SPEAKER_00]: I read an article where it was as much Indie Car wanting that lead into.
- 2:03[SPEAKER_00]: They wanted to follow the FIFA.
- 2:04[SPEAKER_00]: They were hoping for the boost for the lead in as well.
- 2:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I know.
- 2:10[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the hope by all.
- 2:12[SPEAKER_01]: But nobody knows it was going to rain.
- 2:16[SPEAKER_01]: It was going to rain.
- 2:17[SPEAKER_01]: But it rained.
- 2:18[SPEAKER_01]: and it really changed a lot.
- 2:21[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say, unfortunately, the biggest loser was Indie Carke because Monday at the race, there were very few people there.
- 2:29[SPEAKER_01]: Really, there was a lot of people waiting at you.
- 2:31[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was huge.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_02]: It was huge.
- 2:33[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, big crowd for the situation, a Monday afternoon, a lot of people showed up, but yeah, just.
- 2:40[SPEAKER_02]: just a bad situation that probably couldn't be helped.
- 2:43[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think anyone's to blame honestly.
- 2:45[SPEAKER_02]: You can't blame the world cup for wanting to milk everything out of the fight the awards, everything like that.
- 2:53[SPEAKER_02]: You can't blame Indie Car for wanting it to happen and honestly no one's to blame but mother nature and but it's a real big bummer because it would have been a great lead in.
- 3:03[SPEAKER_02]: It's absolutely the best way they've ever had probably.
- 3:07[SPEAKER_01]: And the track, I believe, I really believe the track changed overnight because of all the rain, because on the five o'clock practice on Saturday was the high line practice where they're all instructed to drive the high line.
- 3:25[SPEAKER_01]: And they all could do it.
- 3:27[SPEAKER_01]: And all of them were out there going the high line.
- 3:29[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought this is going to be great because they've got two lines to go
- 3:37[SPEAKER_01]: At the race time, it didn't happen just for a few last days.
- 3:40[SPEAKER_02]: It felt like they could do a little bit behind the leader, but closer to the front, it was, it looked like it was really difficult to get any run up the top of the track.
- 3:53[SPEAKER_01]: And I feel kind of bad for all our listeners and everybody else, because I was the one touting this is the greatest show here in the United States.
- 4:06[SPEAKER_01]: One of my former basketball players, because he has never seen Indie Carr, and he went with me on Monday to Indie Carr, and I was telling him how it was going to be, and then it wasn't like that.
- 4:17[SPEAKER_01]: But he still became a little bit of an Indie fan.
- 4:21[SPEAKER_01]: He said, I'll go back.
- 4:23[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go back.
- 4:25[SPEAKER_01]: But it became a track position race, and from that there were winners and losers.
- 4:33[SPEAKER_02]: They've some really good racing behind the leader, much of the race.
- 4:37[SPEAKER_02]: The Scott McLaughlin run through the McLaughlin, the Malucas runs through the field we're fantastic.
- 4:43[SPEAKER_02]: But upfront, it just wasn't a lot of fun.
- 4:46[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Malucas was definitely one of my winners.
- 4:48[SPEAKER_01]: Malucas went with strategy, but he played it, they played it perfectly.
- 4:54[SPEAKER_01]: Went from 25th to the point, he led a lot of laps.
- 5:00[SPEAKER_02]: and finish the best cars after wrecking the day before.
- 5:04[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and a lot of people, though, the question was whether he was even going to be able to drive it, but hats off to the Malokus and the Pinsky and Pinsky was winners, two, three and four.
- 5:14[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, Dave, real quick.
- 5:16[SPEAKER_00]: You were talking about not much passing, and I think you're, because we probably need to clarify that
- 5:22[SPEAKER_00]: it was strategy that may maluchus jump all those positions.
- 5:27[SPEAKER_00]: He'd probably forcing wise, maybe five to six spots.
- 5:32[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that was kind of the case with some of those other guys that gambled and made it went up, that paid off for him.
- 5:41[SPEAKER_00]: But he really did pay off for foster and I'm trying to remember who else stayed out that
- 5:47[SPEAKER_02]: That's because he had a really good car.
- 5:51[SPEAKER_02]: That's why he was able to stay out front in the others where and he was, he was as good as anybody.
- 5:56[SPEAKER_02]: His car was as good as anybody's on Sunday.
- 5:58[SPEAKER_02]: Monday.
- 5:59[SPEAKER_02]: Listen to me.
- 6:00[SPEAKER_01]: On Monday.
- 6:00[SPEAKER_01]: On Monday.
- 6:01[SPEAKER_01]: That's all right.
- 6:02[SPEAKER_01]: You can slip with that because I probably did it myself.
- 6:06[SPEAKER_01]: But other losers, let me go, other losers were ECR.
- 6:12[SPEAKER_02]: Also let us point out that they had a really bad day with really
- 6:18[SPEAKER_02]: They both had good cars and just had unfortunate.
- 6:21[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I wouldn't say unfortunate.
- 6:23[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe self-inflicted wounds, yeah, exactly.
- 6:29[SPEAKER_01]: Self-inflicted wounds is exactly right.
- 6:31[SPEAKER_01]: The one I felt worst for out of all the losers that I wrote down was Kai Collette.
- 6:38[SPEAKER_01]: We hear before the race, we had praised him as going to be a great race driver.
- 6:44[SPEAKER_00]: Did you think part of maybe that's where his use showed a little bit because he had a such a good car on Saturday and qualifying and practice and everything that maybe with not starting necessarily because of the punishment penalty more at the back of the field that he tried to do too much, too.
- 7:05[SPEAKER_01]: That's possible.
- 7:06[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's very possible with his
- 7:10[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a good call, I think.
- 7:11[SPEAKER_01]: None of the less, and of course he is mess became Malukus's gain because that's when he stayed out.
- 7:19[SPEAKER_01]: And Malukus was able to get the piss pit stop situation perfectly and it was great for him.
- 7:28[SPEAKER_01]: So he probably thanked Colette for that crash.
- 7:32[SPEAKER_01]: But one much of a crash, it really wasn't.
- 7:34[SPEAKER_01]: He just rode up into the wall too high.
- 7:39[SPEAKER_01]: Potto had a 15th place car that finished 7th.
- 7:44[SPEAKER_01]: He's done that all year.
- 7:48[SPEAKER_01]: And Heather's boyfriend had his radio on.
- 7:54[SPEAKER_01]: And the last several apps of that race, he said it was filled with what we can't say on the radio because Potto has really upset that they just don't have the pace.
- 8:07[SPEAKER_01]: And I totally get it.
- 8:09[SPEAKER_01]: He's too good up a driver to not have that kind of pace.
- 8:14[SPEAKER_01]: Probably the four biggest losers were, I'm gonna say Scotty Mac, although he became a winner, Kirkwood, VK, and Frucci.
- 8:25[SPEAKER_01]: They were all right at the top, and got host by a bad timed pit stop.
- 8:36[SPEAKER_01]: they went in too early, what turned out to be too early, which put them a lap behind.
- 8:43[SPEAKER_01]: And then all they could do is do the wave around and they were at the back of the pack.
- 8:50[SPEAKER_01]: So all four of those were right there in contention was great racers.
- 8:55[SPEAKER_00]: Hey Dave, would it be appropriate to say they were unlucky losers?
- 8:59[SPEAKER_00]: Because it was bad luck, it was just bad luck.
- 9:02[SPEAKER_01]: It's just bad luck, it was.
- 9:04[SPEAKER_01]: no question and Scotty Mack made the most of it and he came through the field up to fourth.
- 9:12[SPEAKER_01]: I really think I really think he had the best car of the day.
- 9:16[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure he would say that, but once he got in line with a four, he couldn't pass anybody.
- 9:22[SPEAKER_02]: Dave I've been wonder if the Penskees are losers because they had the three best cars on the track and did not win the race.
- 9:30[SPEAKER_02]: That's true.
- 9:31[SPEAKER_02]: That is a real good point.
- 9:33[SPEAKER_02]: Although for where they've been the last couple of years, I think this is a result they'll take.
- 9:38[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely, now you've got some winners here as well.
- 9:43[SPEAKER_01]: I'm gonna go through obviously below.
- 9:45[SPEAKER_01]: Pleo was in.
- 9:47[SPEAKER_01]: He's good, but he was lucky.
- 9:49[SPEAKER_01]: He was in the right spot at the right time.
- 9:51[SPEAKER_01]: Very lucky.
- 9:52[SPEAKER_01]: So it was, yes, and so it was New Garden because they happened to be right on the pit stops.
- 9:58[SPEAKER_01]: And once you got out front, there was no challenge in here.
- 10:00[SPEAKER_01]: There was no challenging.
- 10:02[SPEAKER_01]: And the one guy that after the race I looked and said, where did he come from was Rosenquist?
- 10:08[SPEAKER_01]: Rosenquist had a, I think, a great race because he started back and he ended up,
- 10:14[SPEAKER_01]: I think fifth, and he was in contention without a fast car, without a fast race car.
- 10:22[SPEAKER_01]: Ericsson did a great job, but the four biggest winners in my opinion, next you mocker.
- 10:31[SPEAKER_01]: Kiffin Simpson.
- 10:34[SPEAKER_01]: Nolan Siegel, and I'm even gonna throw Stingray Rob in there.
- 10:38[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I definitely agree with you on a Stingray Rob there.
- 10:42[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, when I saw him in the top 10, I was like, oh my gosh, who would have ever thought he never even crossed my mind or was on my radar?
- 10:55[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's it.
- 10:56[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, it was about what 60 laughs to go.
- 10:58[SPEAKER_01]: He was in the top 10 and I set in there.
- 11:01[SPEAKER_01]: I said, is that number 77 up there in ninth place?
- 11:05[SPEAKER_01]: And he said, yeah, and I'm saying, hold my cock, where he, that's fantastic.
- 11:09[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm going to say a steamer.
- 11:12[SPEAKER_02]: Rob and Mick Schumacher battling for position on the top 10 was up to see.
- 11:18[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and kids, two guys that really needed good races.
- 11:23[SPEAKER_01]: Giffin Simpson and Nolan Seekle, and they both had good races.
- 11:30[SPEAKER_02]: And make sure, Marker, that you talk about needed.
- 11:34[SPEAKER_02]: I think is needed as any performance that you can imagine, and he was racing, and he was, I think he and was in enjoy in himself as well.
- 11:43[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.
- 11:44[SPEAKER_00]: How about this with Mick Schumacher?
- 11:46[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, let's face it.
- 11:47[SPEAKER_00]: Where have his best races been that times?
- 11:50[SPEAKER_00]: It's been all the ovals.
- 11:52[SPEAKER_00]: Not really on the road forces where you'd expect.
- 11:55[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
- 11:56[SPEAKER_00]: In that ahead, scratcher.
- 11:58[SPEAKER_00]: Most definitely.
- 11:59[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll tell you what, Mick Schumacher saved the day for RLL racing.
- 12:04[SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't a total miserable experience.
- 12:08[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.
- 12:10[SPEAKER_01]: For Graham Ray Hall, his vehicle was piece of crap.
- 12:17[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all you can say.
- 12:19[SPEAKER_02]: Guys, can we talk about Rina's VK?
- 12:21[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he was my dark horse, but yeah, and he was right in it.
- 12:25[SPEAKER_01]: He was right in it.
- 12:26[SPEAKER_01]: And unfortunately, he got the bad pit call, the bad timing.
- 12:32[SPEAKER_02]: He is so good, no matter what car you put him in, he is racing, he is upfront with all the big name cars, and it's so consistent now that it's impossible to ignore.
- 12:44[SPEAKER_01]: You're right, and he's going to boat well with a good ride out of this somewhere.
- 12:50[SPEAKER_01]: No, and for it she was good.
- 12:52[SPEAKER_01]: For it she was good.
- 12:53[SPEAKER_01]: He was right there.
- 12:54[SPEAKER_01]: He was.
- 12:55[SPEAKER_01]: He had those ovals.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he does.
- 12:57[SPEAKER_01]: He's very good on the ovals.
- 12:59[SPEAKER_01]: I feel for some of the fans that couldn't go back and it just became a one-lane race and that place is not designed for that.
- 13:15[SPEAKER_01]: It is much better than that.
- 13:17[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope they continue to race there.
- 13:21[SPEAKER_01]: I know there's talk about going back to the streets of Nashville and I'm not for that at all.
- 13:30[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they're going back to the streets as soon as they can.
- 13:32[SPEAKER_02]: I'm all right.
- 13:32[SPEAKER_00]: That's really what Borshetta wants.
- 13:34[SPEAKER_00]: He wants it downtown.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 13:36[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 13:37[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to happen.
- 13:38[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't want though.
- 13:39[SPEAKER_00]: Why couldn't they have two races in Nashville?
- 13:42[SPEAKER_00]: Don't.
- 13:42[SPEAKER_00]: I mean.
- 13:43[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.
- 13:44[SPEAKER_02]: Great.
- 13:45[SPEAKER_02]: If you marketed it as two different audiences and made the street course a festival and did things like that as people have been telling their marketing department to do for 20 years, you might be able to do it.
- 13:58[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, they wouldn't even have to necessarily, wouldn't even necessarily have to be the same, the same weekend because- No, I was saying it just a little bit- No, I was kind of pardoned.
- 14:08[SPEAKER_02]: I think you would do it at two different parts of the schedule if you're going to do too.
- 14:11[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, definitely.
- 14:12[SPEAKER_00]: I think you could do what everyone you don't want.
- 14:14[SPEAKER_00]: You could do later.
- 14:16[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I agree.
- 14:17[SPEAKER_00]: We know they need to add racism.
- 14:19[SPEAKER_00]: I hate to see him lose an oval race because that, it would be nice to have the oval and the street race.
- 14:26[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, Nashville's IndyCars town now, right?
- 14:30[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
- 14:31[SPEAKER_01]: It is.
- 14:32[SPEAKER_02]: How much is that new garden love that?
- 14:34[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, in fact, I'll say this as it was pouring down rain before they made the call.
- 14:40[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking, you know, it would be smart.
- 14:43[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just move the race to the second week in September and make it the final race.
- 14:50[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm, I like that.
- 14:55[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be you know what let's make it if you're going to stay and do all the other let's make it a night race Alex pillow and when they were interviewing him on Sunday when they were waiting You know, he was excited he he was looking forward and hoping they would they we get started And he was looking forward to the night race.
- 15:14[SPEAKER_00]: He said it's just you know, you see the sparks up off The cars and you just see so much better and you just thinks it adds more excitement not just for the drivers and the team for the fans
- 15:24[SPEAKER_02]: I was hoping it would move it to Monday night, but I'm sure that Fox doesn't want to move it's prime time schedule.
- 15:31[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm sure Fox had a lot to say and I'm sure it went by, there was a lot of options that went by people.
- 15:38[SPEAKER_01]: In my opinion, the way it happened is that it's kind of said, well, let's get it done and let's get out of here.
- 15:43[SPEAKER_02]: That's right.
- 15:44[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
- 15:45[SPEAKER_02]: Which is too bad.
- 15:47[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
- 15:48[SPEAKER_02]: Indicars better than that.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_02]: It gets true.
- 15:50[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't get treated with the respect that the product deserves and part of that.
- 15:56[SPEAKER_02]: Again, I'm going to use this term because I'm going to remember at this time.
- 16:00[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of that has been self-inflicted wounds over the year by the series, but for the product that it puts out on the track every weekend for the last.
- 16:10[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know say 40 years has just been extraordinary.
- 16:16[SPEAKER_01]: It has.
- 16:17[SPEAKER_01]: It has.
- 16:18[SPEAKER_02]: Even during the IRL cart days, the racing was really, really good.
- 16:24[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and for what?
- 16:25[SPEAKER_02]: In fact, the IRL cart days improved the racing because the split, the IRL became suddenly really, really close racing and people turned into a cart racing with it.
- 16:39[SPEAKER_02]: Well, that's not very fun.
- 16:40[SPEAKER_02]: And force cart to do it as well.
- 16:42[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why we have what we have today.
- 16:47[SPEAKER_02]: like that, Greg.
- 16:49[SPEAKER_02]: I was actually in the media at the time, so I was part of the indie car media during the split, so I was covering Kelly Racing for the Fortway New Sentinel.
- 17:04[SPEAKER_02]: I was Scott Sharp and Mark Dizmore back then, so I remember it very well.
- 17:08[SPEAKER_02]: Those were two good racers, especially Scott Sharp.
- 17:14[SPEAKER_02]: And Dave, we were saying before the podcast that even though you go down there and it got rained out and you hadn't decided whether you're going to go back on Monday, you can go down and get your money's worth on Saturday with his successful as everybody is.
- 17:27[SPEAKER_02]: And that's one of the great things that Indie cars had to it, it's an ever since I can remember.
- 17:32[SPEAKER_01]: those guys are just great guys.
- 17:35[SPEAKER_01]: They do recognize the fans, they appreciate the fans, and they get along professionally.
- 17:42[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's some bickering like, let's just say, Dixon and Rossi, I'm sure they looked at each other and said, what happened there?
- 17:51[SPEAKER_01]: But in the end of the movie, those guys all stand up for each other pretty much and fight for each other.
- 17:58[SPEAKER_01]: They know they're in the same business,
- 18:05[SPEAKER_02]: And of course Michelle interviewed Tony Kanon, who was so accessible, and it's been like this since I can remember, let me tell you a quick story.
- 18:13[SPEAKER_02]: When I was in the media, I had an interview time with Alonso Jr., and it was a five minute window, and it was great.
- 18:21[SPEAKER_02]: That's all I needed.
- 18:23[SPEAKER_02]: And the guys before me went over time, so it was going to push me out.
- 18:28[SPEAKER_02]: And I told that his media team was,
- 18:33[SPEAKER_02]: He's got to get out the door and Alan's your junior looked at me and said, you take as much time as you want.
- 18:39[SPEAKER_02]: They can wait for me.
- 18:40[SPEAKER_01]: So he was that kind of guy.
- 18:42[SPEAKER_02]: He put his hand on my shoulder and said, take as much time as you want.
- 18:46[SPEAKER_02]: In a few years later, Mario and Dreddy had a meeting with him.
- 18:50[SPEAKER_02]: It happened to fall in the middle of Marcos qualifying time.
- 18:54[SPEAKER_02]: He was so gracious to me.
- 18:56[SPEAKER_02]: I felt bad for cheering against him for all those years.
- 19:00[SPEAKER_02]: One of the nicest men I ever met was Mario and Dreddy.
- 19:03[SPEAKER_02]: So it goes way back to the accessibility.
- 19:07[SPEAKER_02]: AJ Floyd loved the fans and Rutherford and the answer.
- 19:10[SPEAKER_02]: Jay, they just loved the fan.
- 19:12[SPEAKER_01]: Bobby Usher became known as Uncle Bobby.
- 19:13[SPEAKER_01]: And if you went and he was alive, you walk up and say, hey, Uncle Bobby, tell me a story and he'd just start talking and tell stories.
- 19:22[SPEAKER_02]: So even if it rains on a race weekend, you can get your money's worth if you go down there and try to.
- 19:28[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, absolutely.
- 19:30[SPEAKER_01]: I want 100% agree.
- 19:53[SPEAKER_02]: Central and Anna sports reports product of ITG media and that loves Susie.