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Notching Up The Victories With LIAM GUINANE From WINDWAKER · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: Hey, I'm Liam from wind Waker and we're going to
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  Speaker 1: be playing Good Things twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: Man, fantastic, Alam, thanks for joining us today.
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  Speaker 3: Brother, thank you for having me my pleasure?
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  Speaker 2: I say is you saybro?
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  Speaker 4: Wind Waker have been announced as part of the Good
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  Speaker 4: Things Festival twenty twenty five lineup, which will be held
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  Speaker 4: over three consecutive days in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane from
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  Speaker 4: December five to seven.
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  Speaker 2: So Percy, congratulations and Bob deserved.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much. Yeah, very excited.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 4: So you guys aren't strangers to play in massive festivals
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  Speaker 4: made haven't smashed it a download night and Day Unify?
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  Speaker 4: You've been a Good Things before, But I bet you
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  Speaker 4: never get sick of seeing the name wind Waker on
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  Speaker 4: those posters.
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  Speaker 1: No, I want to see it more often. That would
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  Speaker 1: be that'll be sick. No, I'm so stoked to be
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  Speaker 1: far of this lineup. Like like you said, we've played
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  Speaker 1: Good Things once before, but I think this is probably
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  Speaker 1: my favorite lineup of theirs that they've put together. And
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  Speaker 1: that's not just because I'm on it, but it's just
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  Speaker 1: I think it's just a great round of bands.
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  Speaker 2: It isn't and any other things like that.
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  Speaker 4: Man, like you got all these assive internationals there, like
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  Speaker 4: and there's a few OUSSI bands which will gets you later,
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  Speaker 4: but it's like a gang mentality backstage's like US Australian
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  Speaker 4: bands and you know we can do this.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it can it can be, but it's it's
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  Speaker 1: all like it it's banned by you know, case by
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  Speaker 1: case with with every band. You know, like some some
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  Speaker 1: are like they keep to themselves and they kind of
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  Speaker 1: just like do their own thing, and then there's others
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  Speaker 1: that are like you know, that are very friendly and
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  Speaker 1: they're like, oh hey, you know, like you you playing
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  Speaker 1: with and you know, like it's it's always it's always different,
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  Speaker 1: Like I think the artist areas where like a lot
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  Speaker 1: of the mingling happens like when you sort of backstage
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  Speaker 1: as such. It's like it's definitely like everyone's just like
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  Speaker 1: kind of security guards for their gear and they're just
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  Speaker 1: kind of just like just staunching everybody. But like for
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  Speaker 1: the most part, yeah, everyone's like really nice. But you're right,
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  Speaker 1: like the Aussies like gravitate to the other Aussies. Like
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  Speaker 1: it's just I think it's just a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: natural thing that happens.
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  Speaker 4: I think now you mentioned the line up before made,
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  Speaker 4: and it's a diverse and eclectic line up. You got
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  Speaker 4: everyone from Chill we Yous, did a Garbage Machine, hand Lord,
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  Speaker 4: and Shore Refused day Seeker. Who are you most looking
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  Speaker 4: forward to to playing with him? To see him live?
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  Speaker 3: I'm most looking forward to Refused.
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  Speaker 1: It's They're my one of my favorite bands of all time,
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  Speaker 1: a massive influence on myself and you know, my musical upbringing.
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  Speaker 1: I think they have one of the greatest albums of
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  Speaker 1: all time, probably two of the greatest albums of all time.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I've never gotten to see them live, so
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  Speaker 1: this will be my first opportunity getting to like witness
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  Speaker 1: it in the flesh. But yeah, I'm really looking forward to,
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  Speaker 1: you know, seeing like mates and make them suffer. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned a few of them, like day Seeker.
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  Speaker 3: Is a great band, you know I'm really looking for.
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  Speaker 1: I've seen tool Ones and that was about fifteen years
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  Speaker 1: ago at Big Day Out, so I'm really excited to
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  Speaker 1: see them again.
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  Speaker 3: Weezer have also been a you know, an influence, you.
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  Speaker 1: Know, maybe not necessarily with wind Waker, but like I've
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  Speaker 1: you know, I've loved Weezer growing up.
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  Speaker 3: Same with Garbage as well, even you know what like
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  Speaker 3: a bit of a curveball one.
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  Speaker 1: Like but James Rain's got like so many great songs
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  Speaker 1: and I feel like he's like a bit of an
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  Speaker 1: oddity in the lineup. But also like I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: there's always been like that one band that's like you know,
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  Speaker 1: like I think it was Boom Crash Off for last
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  Speaker 1: year or the year before, you know, like Devo, Like
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  Speaker 1: I've I was so stoked on Devo the other like
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  Speaker 1: I think it.
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  Speaker 3: Was last year or maybe the year before. Yeah, Like
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  Speaker 3: it's it's.
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  Speaker 4: Good to see like bands that people I'll say people
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  Speaker 4: like us, but I don't mean they're negatively, but that
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  Speaker 4: we never really go and see.
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  Speaker 2: But when they're on a lineup that you're at, you
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  Speaker 2: love seeing him.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, But yeah I could listen like half like
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  Speaker 1: half the like more than half of the lineup, you know,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm excited to see Lorna Shoram's excited to see
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  Speaker 1: Knocked Loose. Yeah, I don't know, there's lots of there's
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  Speaker 1: lots of bands, and yeah, it's it's kind of multi generational,
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  Speaker 1: like it's it's diverse in age and in style, like
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  Speaker 1: it's it's great, they've.
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  Speaker 2: Nailed it completely.
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  Speaker 4: And it's great to see so many Australian bands too,
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  Speaker 4: like we got yourselves make them suffer tonight A live
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  Speaker 4: Zibi canursa yours truly and mister James Raine himself like it.
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  Speaker 4: It proves that obviously you can mix it with bands
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  Speaker 4: from anywhere in the world, doesn't it.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we're definitely regarded as like one of like
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  Speaker 1: the best sort of musical exports or like in the world.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like it's people overseas are like what is
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  Speaker 3: in the water.
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  Speaker 1: They're like I always hear it all the time when
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  Speaker 1: we're over there, you know, like why you know they
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  Speaker 1: cook up metals so differently over in Australia, Like it's
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  Speaker 1: just like it seems to be a thing. So I
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  Speaker 1: mean it's good that we can stand up against some
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  Speaker 1: internationals as well.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and then we mentioned that diversit in the lineup, right,
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  Speaker 4: Like person from a personal point of view, like would
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  Speaker 4: you rather go to a festival with a lineup that
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  Speaker 4: spans the multiverse of genres or would you prefer one
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  Speaker 4: with a more common musical thread.
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  Speaker 1: I personally prefer mixed, but I think that that just personally,
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  Speaker 1: you know, tickles my brain in the right way. I like,
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  Speaker 1: I have a very broad taste in music India, in
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  Speaker 1: my band would probably say the broadest taste in music.
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  Speaker 1: Like I just like it's very diverse. So I like
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  Speaker 1: that there's this sort of something for everybody. I can
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  Speaker 1: understand the ethos of like, oh, yeah, I know, I
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  Speaker 1: want to see you know, nine hours of like technical
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  Speaker 1: death metal and that's it, But like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: for me, like I like that it kind of mixes
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  Speaker 1: like a wide range of emotions, you know, like there's
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  Speaker 1: so many festivals that do that, and you know, in
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  Speaker 1: the in the world, not just in Australia, And I
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  Speaker 1: think that, like it's great that we have something like
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  Speaker 1: good things to do that at least for you know,
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  Speaker 1: the alternative genres, because there are so many different like
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  Speaker 1: styles in alternative.
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  Speaker 4: So yeah, let's face it, like we both love our
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  Speaker 4: metal made but nine hours are the same sort of shit.
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  Speaker 2: You get a headache after a while.
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  Speaker 3: It's exhausting and I love it, but yeah, you're gonna be.
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  Speaker 2: A long day for everyone going.
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  Speaker 4: Like, as a seasoned festival veteran now as you are,
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  Speaker 4: what would your top three survival chips be for punters.
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  Speaker 3: Drink a hell of a lot of water. I no
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  Speaker 3: beer is good. I love beer, but drink some water please.
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  Speaker 1: Another one that's just like a just a general philosophy,
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  Speaker 1: not just at festivals but in life. Is just like that,
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  Speaker 1: this space is for everybody, so like, treat people how
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  Speaker 1: you want to be treated.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, I know it's a cliche, but it's like
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  Speaker 3: it's just true. And then the third thing.
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  Speaker 1: Because it's going to be December, I would say like
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  Speaker 1: hat and sunscreen is probably like the other, like just like.
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  Speaker 3: Essential like must fit do thing, and.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone forgets, like everyone forgets like the sunscreen thing. And
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  Speaker 1: I see so many lobsters in the crowd.
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  Speaker 3: It's crazy.
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  Speaker 2: They're having a ball of the night. But you just
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  Speaker 2: know the next day they're going to be heard.
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  Speaker 3: Oh it's going to be in pain.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 4: One of the beautiful things with festivals is getting to
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  Speaker 4: see the chance to see bands that you might otherwise
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  Speaker 4: not watch.
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  Speaker 2: Say someone's going.
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  Speaker 4: To Good Things and they don't know too much about Windwaker,
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  Speaker 4: What three songs of yours should they listen to?
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  Speaker 2: You get to know the band better well.
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  Speaker 3: Victory Lap is a good one.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like that's a good indicator of where you know,
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  Speaker 1: things are kind of going, and it's a good like
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  Speaker 1: sort of resume of like, all right, we can do this,
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  Speaker 1: we can do this, we can do this.
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  Speaker 3: So that's that would be one.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to sort of see how like fun,
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  Speaker 1: light and kind of poppy that we can go, probably
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  Speaker 1: something like break the Rules would.
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  Speaker 3: Be a good one.
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  Speaker 1: And then I would say if you're more into like
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  Speaker 1: the heavy kind of side of things, then you.
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  Speaker 3: I would probably recommend like a song like the Wall.
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  Speaker 1: Those would probably be my like three sort of spec
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  Speaker 1: drum you know, like the extremes of the two.
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  Speaker 3: You know that those would probably be the two things.
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  Speaker 4: What are we going to get from you with Good
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  Speaker 4: Things made Like you're going to concentrate on justin metal stuff.
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  Speaker 4: You're going to mix the poplar elements in because it's
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  Speaker 4: a diverse lineup.
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  Speaker 1: We're still I think we're still discussing what the setlist
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  Speaker 1: looks like for Good Things, But all I.
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  Speaker 3: Know is that I want to keep the energy really high.
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  Speaker 1: So it's not like we're going to be playing like
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  Speaker 1: any ballads or anything like that. I think we've got
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  Speaker 1: to keep like the energy up, and I think it'll
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  Speaker 1: be I think it'll be a good representation, a good
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  Speaker 1: like spread of like what we do. We we always
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  Speaker 1: try to like think about what it would be like
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  Speaker 1: for someone that's seeing us for the first time and
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  Speaker 1: trying to showcase and represent ourselves in like an accurate way,
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  Speaker 1: so not trying to be too metal, but not trying.
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  Speaker 3: To be too pop.
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, I think we'll find a nice happy middle ground.
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  Speaker 2: It's not easy, but it's it's not easy.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's not easy when you've got so many great songs.
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  Speaker 4: You know, you've been a massive eighteen months to win
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  Speaker 4: Waker made. It started with the release of Hyper Violent
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  Speaker 4: Sluts July. So how was your action to that? Like
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  Speaker 4: was it what you were hoping for.
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  Speaker 3: That from the album?
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  Speaker 1: And I think it exceeded our expectations, you know, like
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  Speaker 1: not that I don't think we're ever expecting it to
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  Speaker 1: like not do well in any sense, but like it's
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  Speaker 1: I think we didn't know what to expect, to be honest,
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  Speaker 1: because it was like the first album with me as
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  Speaker 1: the front man, and you know, like I think we
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  Speaker 1: could we there was like an indicator of like it
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  Speaker 1: doing well with based on like the singles or whatnot.
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  Speaker 1: But like, I don't think we could have ever imagined
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  Speaker 1: that it was going to like launch, you know, do
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  Speaker 1: the numbers that it was doing, like, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: it was gonna like it's definitely exceeded expectations to put it,
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  Speaker 1: put it like quite, you know, concisely. It's it's been
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  Speaker 1: a great it's been great ride so far, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: hoping to kind of continue that trajectory.
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  Speaker 3: I think I.
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  Speaker 2: Think you should, Mate, I think you should. Now.
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  Speaker 4: You follow that up with hyper Violence Expansion Pack, which
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  Speaker 4: was basically a deluxe version of Hyper Violence with three
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  Speaker 4: new songs and some special surprises.
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  Speaker 2: I remember chatting VideA before that came out and.
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  Speaker 4: Asked any what those special surprises were, and you point
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  Speaker 4: blank refused, tell me, now it's out, what what are
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  Speaker 4: the surprises on it?
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  Speaker 1: So, I mean, yeah, the fact that there was some
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  Speaker 1: three three new songs, and we collabed with a French
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  Speaker 1: band called The Sunday Sadness who we've we kind of
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  Speaker 1: did like a bit of a song swap remix type
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  Speaker 1: of thing where you know, we had we we I
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  Speaker 1: appeared on their song would You Be My Therapy? And
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  Speaker 1: then they appeared on on our song.
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  Speaker 3: Sirens, which was cool.
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  Speaker 1: It was a nice It was a great experience and
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  Speaker 1: we've kind of developed a great relationship with them as
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  Speaker 1: far as like collaborating goes. And yeah, I think I
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  Speaker 1: think that was just getting I guess the deluxe out was.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, probably, So you weren't lying when you said there
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  Speaker 4: wasn't anything much you could tell in between that there
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  Speaker 4: was a trip to the Opera Awards too, where you
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  Speaker 4: unfortunately missed out on the chocolates.
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  Speaker 2: But how was the experience made? Like? It was pretty
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  Speaker 2: cool from it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I got to drink beers with you.
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  Speaker 2: We got to get tipsy.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it was.
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  Speaker 1: It was a great experience and like you know, I
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  Speaker 1: loved everyone at our table and kind of getting to
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  Speaker 1: watch it was a first little first taste of like.
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  Speaker 3: An awards ceremony for in music.
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  Speaker 1: So it was you know, you know, nice to get
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  Speaker 1: dressed up and you know, go to Melbourne Town Hall
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  Speaker 1: and and just be amongst sort of like you know
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  Speaker 1: what some of Australia's finests, you know that music has
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  Speaker 1: to offer.
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  Speaker 2: So you scribbed up pretty good to maybe so you
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  Speaker 2: look all.
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  Speaker 3: Right, thank you very much. You know, I try I
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  Speaker 3: try you did well.
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  Speaker 4: You touched on this before, but just last Friday you
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  Speaker 4: dropped your new song, Victory Laps. It's an absolutely banging
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  Speaker 4: made I was telling you earlier, but to tell us
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  Speaker 4: more about that song musically and what your regard for
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  Speaker 4: on this one.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was for musically.
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  Speaker 1: I think we were kind of going for something that was,
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  Speaker 1: you know, unapologetic and you know, anthemic and epic sounding.
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  Speaker 3: Like I remember when we were when I was developing.
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  Speaker 1: The like the demo idea that I would bring eventually
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  Speaker 1: bring to the guys, Like I started off with that
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  Speaker 1: that chant that sort of appears all throughout the song,
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  Speaker 1: but at the start of the song in particular, and
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  Speaker 1: it just kind of to me sounded like, I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: like like a FIFA video game, you know, like World
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  Speaker 1: Cup soccer stadium type of thing. And yeah, normally we
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  Speaker 1: have like these working titles that are like really stupid
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  Speaker 1: in win Waker, like that never ended up seeing never
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  Speaker 1: end up seeing the light light of day.
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  Speaker 3: But for some reason, I had just written Victory.
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  Speaker 1: Lap in the demo, like in the session, That's what
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  Speaker 1: I saved the song as and we never changed the title.
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  Speaker 1: I think it just kind of fit the overall attitude
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  Speaker 1: of the song. So yeah, what we will, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: think like it's a bit of like a it showcases
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  Speaker 1: what we do, like you know, in a broad sense,
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  Speaker 1: but I think like in the sort of intricate details
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  Speaker 1: of it, it's it's.
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  Speaker 3: Very new sounding. It's a bit of a departure r
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  Speaker 3: I mek.
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  Speaker 1: You know that there's kind of more industrial kind of
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  Speaker 1: elements to it. It's like it's just like these booming drums.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of unintentionally reminds me of like you know,
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  Speaker 1: like something like song Too by Blur. You know, it's
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  Speaker 1: kind of just got that feeling to me. But then also, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it just has like this really like kind of I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, poppy kind of chorus. It's like, I know,
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  Speaker 1: like when we were recording the vocals, particularly for like
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  Speaker 1: the second verse, like we're kind of like going to
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  Speaker 1: like a bit of a Bruno Mars kind of thing.
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  Speaker 3: I know, it was just it's like I think we
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  Speaker 3: just kind of threw everything.
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  Speaker 1: We had at it, wanted to make like the heaviest
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  Speaker 1: break like like even when we approached the breakdown for
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  Speaker 1: this for that song, like in the past, I think
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  Speaker 1: we've kind of like not really like tried to build
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  Speaker 1: things up.
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  Speaker 3: Like and structure a breakdown. This time, we.
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  Speaker 1: Actually like put a lot more thought into it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: even like I spent so much time on like that
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  Speaker 1: little like bridge section that kind of made this like
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  Speaker 1: almost like Batman cinematic moment where it's like kind of
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  Speaker 1: got these strings and choirs and stuff like that. Like
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  Speaker 1: I really like I really wanted to like kind of
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  Speaker 1: throw everything out we had it this song and just
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  Speaker 1: kind of you know, make it, make it a statement
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  Speaker 1: of authority and and you know not being you know,
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  Speaker 1: being unapologetic.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's probably all we're going for with Victory Lab.
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  Speaker 2: The music video is spectacularly.
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  Speaker 4: There's army helicopters, there's war zones and battles, his night
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  Speaker 4: vision goggles action all the way through.
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  Speaker 2: Like how did you get the budget for that?
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  Speaker 3: Bro?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: I have to say like Colin Colin Jeffs, who directed
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  Speaker 1: the clip, he's he's an absolute madman.
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  Speaker 3: Like I.
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  Speaker 1: Like, he definitely like took a bit of a cut
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  Speaker 1: on his on his normal fee because he just like
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  Speaker 1: he heard the track. He had some of these ideas
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  Speaker 1: and he's just like I think this is the song
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  Speaker 1: to make it happen, and yeah, we just we just
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  Speaker 1: like it's like with the music, kind of just through
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  Speaker 1: everything we had at it. I had like some references
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  Speaker 1: of what I wanted it to look like, but as
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: far as like what it actually entailed, you know, as
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: far as getting like a troop carrier and a helicopter
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: and swat team and stuff involved, like that was just
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: letting Colin off the leash and kind of making him
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: just become a bit of a madman. Yeah, I think
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: he went a little nuts on the It's.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: One of the best music videos I've ever seen.
• 15:57
  Speaker 3: It's a Hollywood blockbuster. In three and a half minutes,
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: here's mat.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: I'm on wait for the sequel, either Big Thing or
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: win Wake Affairs want to know, though, ro is it
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: a stand alone single or the start of the new chapter?
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I think I can probably say it's the start of
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: a new chapter. I don't think it's going to be
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: a standalone single by any means. We're working on We've
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: been working on new music for for a little while.
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna like we're not ready to
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: like announce like an album or anything like that. But
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: but yeah, I think we've got like quite a bit
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: of new music built up that we're really excited to
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: share with everybody, So you know, hopefully it's sooner rather
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: than later, but probably you know, we'll probably more talk
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: talk about it more next year, I suppose while we're
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: clearer mac review of it all.
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: No, can I ask, so, is that because it is
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: a little bit different for you guys in terms of sound,
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: is that indicative of the direction the new music is
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: going to go?
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: Yes and no, Like, I know that's like such an
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: annoying answer, but like it's sort of like I mean,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: with win Waki, you kind of never know. And I
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: think I think it's indicative of in the sense of,
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: like us being more focused, more deliberate, more sure of ourselves.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: I think it's like maybe not necessarily sonically, although I
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: think the attitude you might find in other songs, but
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: I think I think it could be like a.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: Bit of an anomaly in itself.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: But also I think there's elements of it that we
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: are bringing, Like I feel like it is a bit
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: of a centerpiece for what we're exploring. But the other
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: songs don't necessarily sound like Victory Lap.
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: We just we're going for big we're going for.
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like I said, like really sure and deliberate and purposeful,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: like I want to say something, you know, and not
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: be so like self exploratory like we were on hyper violence.
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: I think this is like more of there's more messaging
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: going on this. Yeah, I don't know that I could.
• 17:59
  Speaker 4: Go on anyone ever charge you the master of saying
• 18:02
  Speaker 4: a lot and saying nothing at the same time.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a politician for sure.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: I'm able. Thanks for your time today Live. It's been
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: a place to speak with you.
• 18:09
  Speaker 4: Windwaker are part of the massive Good Things line up
• 18:12
  Speaker 4: this December. Pet yourself tickets because they're going to sell
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: out quick, and I'll see you at the bar.