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- 9:24Speaker 1: and privilege of introducing Jackie Cruise. Mama, do you want
- 9:28Speaker 1: to intro our guests tell our listeners about Jackie Cruise. Yes.
- 9:34Speaker 1: Jackie Cruise, actor, entrepreneur, vocalists and New Yorker of Dominican descent.
- 9:40Speaker 1: Jackie Cruise became a household name for her portrayal of
- 9:43Speaker 1: Marisol on the Netflix critically acclaimed series Orange Is the
- 9:48Speaker 1: New Black. The original series, created by Jenji Cohen, became
- 9:52Speaker 1: an award winning Magnet and released its seventh and final
- 9:55Speaker 1: season in two thousand nineteen. But since then, Jackie has
- 9:58Speaker 1: been making music, singing, performing, creating, are getting married, you know,
- 10:03Speaker 1: raising dogs, being a dog mom, just living that life.
- 10:07Speaker 1: And we had a really good time interviewing Jackie. We
- 10:11Speaker 1: met Jackie's dogs. We talked about being dog moms, dog mothers,
- 10:15Speaker 1: um latinas creativity acting, how she got into it. So,
- 10:20Speaker 1: without further ado our episode with Jackie, Cruz, Vodkas, m
- 11:07Speaker 1: of It and Ship, let's let's get started. So you know,
- 11:15Speaker 1: we're all at home right now, right we're in a pandemic.
- 11:19Speaker 1: We're looking at how to get creative, how to connect
- 11:22Speaker 1: with our audience. And I've seen that you have been
- 11:24Speaker 1: on Instagram a lot, You've been on the I G Lives,
- 11:27Speaker 1: You've been performing on Instagram for your your community, for
- 11:31Speaker 1: your followers, and it's so beautiful. I caught when you
- 11:34Speaker 1: were singing Valerie. Uh, I think it was last week.
- 11:38Speaker 1: So let's talk about that. Let's talk about getting creative
- 11:41Speaker 1: at home during quarantine during COVID. Yeah, I mean, I
- 11:46Speaker 1: have to tell you, UM, the one thing that I've
- 11:48Speaker 1: learned through COVID is um, you know, as artists, next,
- 11:53Speaker 1: what's next? What's next? We're never like, you know, kind
- 11:56Speaker 1: of satisfied with the moment. And I feel like, UM,
- 11:59Speaker 1: a lot of gratitude has come through COVID for me
- 12:02Speaker 1: because I got to spend some time with my family,
- 12:05Speaker 1: my little sister, she's thirteen and she drives me crazy.
- 12:09Speaker 1: But um, it was you know, we got connected more
- 12:12Speaker 1: and I feel like, you know, also getting inspired musically
- 12:16Speaker 1: has been a lenge. So this Live with Jackie like
- 12:20Speaker 1: the first few months of quarantine, and I got to
- 12:24Speaker 1: meet some incredible artists that you know, people don't know
- 12:27Speaker 1: about it, and I opened my platform to them and
- 12:29Speaker 1: asked them questions and had them sing, and I had
- 12:32Speaker 1: people from all the world. Alright, um, hey, sorry, I
- 12:41Speaker 1: had It's all good. We're all dog mombs over here.
- 12:46Speaker 1: I have five dogs. I'm a dog lady. But yeah,
- 12:51Speaker 1: so I got to meet this uh so many incredible
- 12:54Speaker 1: artists from all over the world. I had uh Salvadorian rapping,
- 13:00Speaker 1: Swedish and Sweden like it just was crazy and like
- 13:04Speaker 1: I was crying, like like just beautiful little little girls
- 13:08Speaker 1: and even singing to me, and I was just it
- 13:12Speaker 1: felt really good to connect with people because you know,
- 13:15Speaker 1: I've been you know, very solitaire and I I literally
- 13:18Speaker 1: just got into the studio maybe like two days ago,
- 13:21Speaker 1: but it's been almost like since quarantine and I haven't
- 13:24Speaker 1: been able to get in the studio with someone. So
- 13:26Speaker 1: that's how I've been keeping myself busy. And then randomly
- 13:29Speaker 1: I get on live accidentally really and I'm like, screw it,
- 13:32Speaker 1: I'm gonna do karaoke for everyone. I'm pretty much bored
- 13:36Speaker 1: or something. But like it feels something like, sorry, guys
- 13:41Speaker 1: are gonna hear me singing, But everybody you know has
- 13:44Speaker 1: fun on there. And it's been it's been, like, you know,
- 13:47Speaker 1: a very interesting few months. But I've been trying to,
- 13:51Speaker 1: you know, do do the best I can to stay
- 13:53Speaker 1: motivated and try to inspire people around me through my socially. Yeah,
- 13:57Speaker 1: you've been killing it with the content, and I think
- 13:59Speaker 1: for a lot of us, we were introduced to you
- 14:03Speaker 1: as an actress on Orange Is the New Black. You
- 14:05Speaker 1: played Flack Out. We love Flack, I love the character,
- 14:08Speaker 1: and then coming to know you as not only just
- 14:12Speaker 1: an actress, but a singer, a songwriter, a musician. And
- 14:15Speaker 1: my question is in your personal trajectory before Orange Was
- 14:20Speaker 1: the New Black Orange Is the New Black? Were you
- 14:22Speaker 1: a singer first? You're an actress first? What came first?
- 14:24Speaker 1: The music or the acting? For sure? The music, Um,
- 14:29Speaker 1: when I was fifth well actually when I was fifteen,
- 14:31Speaker 1: I moved to California, to the Hollywood. You know, it
- 14:36Speaker 1: was very you know different, but um, when I saw
- 14:39Speaker 1: Whitney Houston singing in The Bodyguard, it was all dubbed
- 14:42Speaker 1: in Spanish in the middle of the movie, you know,
- 14:46Speaker 1: in the d R. And then it came back and
- 14:48Speaker 1: I just saw the finale and I was just like
- 14:50Speaker 1: mommy in love big screen and She's like, let's see
- 14:56Speaker 1: if you got what it takes, you know, like six
- 14:58Speaker 1: or so. And then she like, oh, I got some
- 15:00Speaker 1: potential girlfriend. And she put me in like like acting
- 15:04Speaker 1: classes and singing, you know. And then I have to
- 15:07Speaker 1: say music has always been my my heart and I
- 15:11Speaker 1: get to play like it's natural for me to like,
- 15:14Speaker 1: you know, be other characters because I love to be
- 15:17Speaker 1: goofy and fun. But um, singing is is the true me.
- 15:22Speaker 1: And and I'm very vulnerable and shys sometimes and it's
- 15:27Speaker 1: it's but when I myself, I'm more shy, which is silly.
- 15:31Speaker 1: But I love that I got to open up through
- 15:33Speaker 1: my album and how the Chavez and I got, you know,
- 15:36Speaker 1: I wanted to show people like where I came from
- 15:38Speaker 1: and who I am and I named every single song
- 15:41Speaker 1: after the women who raised me. And I wanted people
- 15:43Speaker 1: to know that that my father's name is Chops, but
- 15:46Speaker 1: I never used it, and I have the first song
- 15:49Speaker 1: is dedicated to him. Maybe he understands me through my
- 15:52Speaker 1: music because personally, like I don't know if we get
- 15:55Speaker 1: each other. But so singing my Nicolason and then acting
- 16:01Speaker 1: is just like a plus that I love to do.
- 16:04Speaker 1: And um and I'll never I'll never quit either one.
- 16:07Speaker 1: I love the fact that you've already brought up like
- 16:10Speaker 1: being a dog mom relationship with fathers. Like in music,
- 16:15Speaker 1: there's a lot to class in too. So I kind
- 16:20Speaker 1: of want to ask where are your dogs from? Because
- 16:23Speaker 1: we have a ton of dogs at home, each of us,
- 16:25Speaker 1: and like our dogs are like from the street or
- 16:27Speaker 1: from the Humane Society or somebody s I had a
- 16:30Speaker 1: literal puppies and we got one. And I love the
- 16:32Speaker 1: origin story of Latino dogs. Dogs. Yeah, like THEA. I
- 16:38Speaker 1: just had eight puppies and um, I drove from Maryland
- 16:42Speaker 1: to here because they were so young with with the
- 16:45Speaker 1: puppy um Priscilla, and so yeah, I know from my
- 16:49Speaker 1: THEA because you know that wasn't supposed to happen. She like,
- 16:53Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna say the word, but you
- 16:56Speaker 1: know it was inappropriate behavior from her dog. And she
- 16:59Speaker 1: got eight puppies randomly and all of them are adopted.
- 17:03Speaker 1: And then this one is from Tijuana and I've had
- 17:06Speaker 1: her since college, so she's like seventeen or something. That's crazy.
- 17:14Speaker 1: I live. I love that she doesn't have her paperwork,
- 17:17Speaker 1: but she's fine. No one asked any questions. That is
- 17:22Speaker 1: so funny. Um, does anybody like check for for your dogs,
- 17:26Speaker 1: like any of the like local animal shelters or anything,
- 17:29Speaker 1: because they come by our house to make sure that
- 17:31Speaker 1: all of our dogs have licenses. Like, yeah, we won't
- 17:36Speaker 1: tell anybody. I have another Mexican dog here, Molly. His
- 17:40Speaker 1: name is Moldiiani. All of my dogs Picasso, I have Moldilani.
- 17:46Speaker 1: I think they went outside. But because you know my husband,
- 17:50Speaker 1: he's an artist, and we got our dogs together and
- 17:54Speaker 1: then um, we broke up for like a year and
- 17:56Speaker 1: a half and got another time. We're back gethers and
- 18:00Speaker 1: now I really do have five dogs. It's using. Um,
- 18:05Speaker 1: so first of all, congratulations, UM, I know that you're
- 18:08Speaker 1: recently married, so let's talk. You know, if you're comfortable.
- 18:11Speaker 1: Let's talk about that, like marrying another artist. A lot
- 18:15Speaker 1: of our listeners are you know, in the art community
- 18:18Speaker 1: as well. You know, dating another artist can get kind
- 18:21Speaker 1: of hectic sometimes, so you know what, um, you know,
- 18:24Speaker 1: if you're open to talking about that, that experience of
- 18:27Speaker 1: marrying another artist, getting married during a pandemic, like, let's
- 18:31Speaker 1: talk about that. I know, um, well, you know, I
- 18:35Speaker 1: always wanted something small anyways, so it just made sense.
- 18:40Speaker 1: I didn't want to wait another year, like and I
- 18:43Speaker 1: you know, people get engaged and like five years later
- 18:46Speaker 1: they're still engaged. So I just like I was ready
- 18:50Speaker 1: ready for you know, like two years ago. So I
- 18:54Speaker 1: think it was really good that we separated to kind
- 18:56Speaker 1: of grow into like even me as an art us
- 19:00Speaker 1: as a musician. That's when like I just sat down
- 19:03Speaker 1: and wrote and then he just painted and like became
- 19:07Speaker 1: better and we just grew our you know, not our
- 19:10Speaker 1: separate ways, but we grew with within our own art.
- 19:13Speaker 1: It's just different because he's a he's a painter, you know. Um,
- 19:17Speaker 1: it's a different kind of art. You know, he's not
- 19:20Speaker 1: you know on TV, you know, so it's just a
- 19:25Speaker 1: little different. So each other off because I just I
- 19:29Speaker 1: love his his work, Like everything you see in the
- 19:31Speaker 1: back um is his his artwork. Uh. I just you know,
- 19:36Speaker 1: I don't know. I just feel like there's a balance
- 19:38Speaker 1: between us. And he's very intellectual and he makes me
- 19:41Speaker 1: read all these things that I don't think I would
- 19:43Speaker 1: ever read if it wasn't because of him. Like I
- 19:47Speaker 1: know all these painters and you know, like the Bosquiat,
- 19:52Speaker 1: the you know the Picasso and I know the Blue Air,
- 19:55Speaker 1: like I know everything about them because Fernando we talked
- 19:59Speaker 1: about it. So it's really cool. I let's see your
- 20:02Speaker 1: Frieda in the background. So yeah with frieda column too,
- 20:09Speaker 1: and um yeah so and getting married to the pandemic.
- 20:13Speaker 1: It was just like twelve people my immediate family and
- 20:17Speaker 1: his immediate family, swear to God. Because like it was
- 20:19Speaker 1: a Mexican family meeting a Dominican family. He would think,
- 20:23Speaker 1: I don't know, you would think, oh, a loud, but
- 20:26Speaker 1: my family is more like conservative, like they like to
- 20:28Speaker 1: like make sure you know they know people before I
- 20:31Speaker 1: guess they're loud. I don't know. So it was like
- 20:33Speaker 1: a weird kind of like in Fernando's mom was like,
- 20:35Speaker 1: oh yeah, that's you know, like like my big fact
- 20:42Speaker 1: crazy wedding, but it was great. It was a little
- 20:44Speaker 1: stressful because Fernando's mom is named Lauda, and during our
- 20:48Speaker 1: our wedding week, it was like Alaudauda and I was
- 20:53Speaker 1: so like the whole Weekahaka in Mexico, a beach town,
- 20:56Speaker 1: it rained the whole week, and so we had that
- 20:59Speaker 1: drama like I heard it's gonna rain all week. I'm like, no, mom,
- 21:02Speaker 1: it's not. But we made you know, we made food
- 21:06Speaker 1: at home, like we got to know each other. There
- 21:09Speaker 1: was like, you know, WiFi issues, you know, these nice
- 21:11Speaker 1: sisters still going to school. But it was like beautiful
- 21:15Speaker 1: at the end, like the last day was the wedding,
- 21:18Speaker 1: and it all came together and it was a dream
- 21:20Speaker 1: come true, like right on the beach, and everything was organic.
- 21:24Speaker 1: I met the people there, you know, like the musicians,
- 21:28Speaker 1: I met them there. I met the women who helped
- 21:31Speaker 1: me plan it there. So it was all local, higher
- 21:33Speaker 1: and and it was just very intimate and organic and
- 21:38Speaker 1: not stressful really, only like my little sister stressed me
- 21:41Speaker 1: up a little bit. WiFi. I love that. That sounds
- 21:46Speaker 1: like a beautiful experience. We are always talking about wanting
- 21:49Speaker 1: to go down to Wahaka because we hear it's gorgeous.
- 21:52Speaker 1: Did you absolutely love it? I love wa haaka, like
- 21:58Speaker 1: but yeah, like my little my little area over there,
- 22:02Speaker 1: you know, my skinker. Things get crazy in America, you know,
- 22:06Speaker 1: so I just I the people are so kind. It
- 22:10Speaker 1: was just a beautiful community. And like we got married
- 22:13Speaker 1: and like we walked down the street and took pictures randomly,
- 22:16Speaker 1: like me barefoot and my silk dressed, and everybody was
- 22:19Speaker 1: just congratulating us, like we had so much my scal
- 22:23Speaker 1: like it's insane, and uh, it was beautiful thing. And
- 22:27Speaker 1: it did rain on my wedding and I had to
- 22:30Speaker 1: do this beautiful like white god pop. But I'm so
- 22:33Speaker 1: happy that I did it. And my sister, who's thirteen,
- 22:36Speaker 1: I was like, well, I'm not paying for a anymore.
- 22:38Speaker 1: If it rains, let people dance in the rain, you know.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Nakida moha, my little sister was. I was like, She's like,
- 22:48Speaker 1: don't worry, Isabella, get you the goda And I was
- 22:51Speaker 1: like what you know, so like she got me the guy.
- 22:55Speaker 1: But and it was actually the most beautiful thing because
- 22:57Speaker 1: it matched like the wedding. It was very it was
- 22:59Speaker 1: a white wet so everyone were white and it was
- 23:02Speaker 1: just beautiful green flowers and it just worked out really pretty.
- 23:07Speaker 1: And then the next day it was sunny after my wedding.
- 23:10Speaker 1: Of course it happens, so I always because I wanted
- 23:16Speaker 1: that beautiful view with the sun and all that. So
- 23:19Speaker 1: it just all ended up working out and I flew out.
- 23:21Speaker 1: The photographer her name is um Eric Nande and Kanda
- 23:26Speaker 1: come in. So everyone who worked in my wedding was Latino.
- 23:30Speaker 1: Just my ps helped me decorate and it was just
- 23:33Speaker 1: a very family event. And Fernando he drew every menu,
- 23:36Speaker 1: so the one got to take home a little piece
- 23:38Speaker 1: of his art. That's extremely beautiful. Wow. And I'm living
- 23:45Speaker 1: for the Dominican Mexican fusion like I live for it.
- 23:48Speaker 1: I think we love a fusion. Two excellent culture is
- 23:51Speaker 1: coming together to be. Um. You know we are at
- 23:59Speaker 1: the UM I guess the later end of Hispanic Heritage
- 24:03Speaker 1: Month or Latin X Heritage Month. Um, you know, what
- 24:06Speaker 1: are your thoughts on this month? Like we always say that, Like, Okay,
- 24:10Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody's remembering the Latinos, the latin
- 24:14Speaker 1: X pant there right, they're reaching out. What about when
- 24:17Speaker 1: the month is over? Right? And so how you know,
- 24:20Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Hispanic Heritage Month doesn't help
- 24:24Speaker 1: put the projects out, you know, like the media and
- 24:27Speaker 1: everyone is interested in what you know, the Latino community
- 24:30Speaker 1: is doing. But I do, I do agree with you.
- 24:32Speaker 1: We should celebrate each other every day. Um. We work
- 24:35Speaker 1: so hard, and you know, especially being in this in
- 24:38Speaker 1: this country, we work triple are you know, and just
- 24:42Speaker 1: to just to make it through the day, you know,
- 24:45Speaker 1: and you couldn't have a day without us. So it's
- 24:48Speaker 1: it's kind of beautiful to celebrate this month. But I
- 24:51Speaker 1: do agree, it's it's an every day celebrate our stories,
- 24:54Speaker 1: celebrate everything about us because we bring a lot to
- 24:57Speaker 1: this country and we yeah, it would be kind of
- 25:01Speaker 1: black and white if it weren't involved. It's very colorful.
- 25:04Speaker 1: We're very colorful people. And um and I just yeah,
- 25:08Speaker 1: I feel good that we get to celebrate it. But
- 25:10Speaker 1: it's an everyday thing for me at least, because you know,
- 25:12Speaker 1: we're lett you know, so we celebrate every day. And
- 25:15Speaker 1: I feel like, um, as far as Latinos in media
- 25:20Speaker 1: and entertainment or concerned, Dominican representation is really on the rise,
- 25:25Speaker 1: and it is really like on the come up because
- 25:28Speaker 1: there I feel like was a period of time where
- 25:30Speaker 1: there really wasn't much at all. And like the other day,
- 25:32Speaker 1: I just watched you know, Vampires Versus the Bronx on
- 25:35Speaker 1: Netflix and it was so good and I loved it.
- 25:38Speaker 1: And like we are big fans of the Bodego Boys,
- 25:41Speaker 1: you know, Do This and Marrow obviously fans of yours.
- 25:45Speaker 1: You didn't play necessarily a Dominicana and or just the
- 25:48Speaker 1: New Black, but you know, on TV and doing and
- 25:51Speaker 1: making movies and doing the thing. And I'm wondering if
- 25:55Speaker 1: you could just speak on that in what you've observed
- 25:57Speaker 1: as far as Dominican representation specific Like, yeah, I mean
- 26:01Speaker 1: that was so brilliant. Uh, the vampires in the Bronx. Um, yeah, though,
- 26:08Speaker 1: like all that is hilarious. Um I do, I um,
- 26:13Speaker 1: I do feel like we are up and coming. But again,
- 26:15Speaker 1: like like like I told you, like well, like you said,
- 26:19Speaker 1: I played you know, Maxicana mostly for for not mostly
- 26:22Speaker 1: in Oranges and his black. So for me, it's still
- 26:26Speaker 1: a struggle because, um, they still don't really know, you know,
- 26:30Speaker 1: what we look like, because we don't all look the
- 26:32Speaker 1: same and we're just you know, all different colors and
- 26:35Speaker 1: sizes and and even if I auditioned for the mikana.
- 26:39Speaker 1: Sometimes I don't even get it because they say I
- 26:41Speaker 1: don't look enough this enough that I'm like, so it's
- 26:44Speaker 1: it's a bit of a struggle. I can't tell you that.
- 26:46Speaker 1: The doors are like so open and they're flying and
- 26:48Speaker 1: I'm getting all these roles. I've actually everything I've done recently,
- 26:52Speaker 1: I don't think I've played a dominion in in anything.
- 26:56Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. Oh my recent short work Rosa
- 27:00Speaker 1: that just one Black Star Fest and Woodstock I did.
- 27:03Speaker 1: I made sure that she was Dominican, and I you know,
- 27:08Speaker 1: I talked, I get to talk in Spanish and I
- 27:10Speaker 1: made sure that that was my accent. And so yeah,
- 27:14Speaker 1: I believe that for me. Right now, I'm opening my
- 27:17Speaker 1: own doors. I'm auditioning for everything. But everything I have
- 27:21Speaker 1: booked is just you know, a wife. Everything is is
- 27:24Speaker 1: just a woman. It's it's not really a Dominican woman,
- 27:27Speaker 1: you know. So um, yeah, the struggle is real and
- 27:32Speaker 1: the doors are opening up. But again, even even in
- 27:36Speaker 1: even in my own country like Gana, like you know,
- 27:41Speaker 1: like it's just like, ah, where do I fit in?
- 27:43Speaker 1: You know, so I didn't got yucky, you know, like
- 27:46Speaker 1: they're confused you look all these different things, and I'm like,
- 27:51Speaker 1: we are America's future, you know what I mean. We are,
- 27:56Speaker 1: you know, become biracial. We come from all different you know,
- 27:59Speaker 1: and some have more than others. And because you know,
- 28:02Speaker 1: everyone always says a little but that's not true either,
- 28:07Speaker 1: because I live in Santiago and we all are you know,
- 28:10Speaker 1: we go from A to Z. So, um, representation is
- 28:15Speaker 1: a little difficult right now, and when it comes to
- 28:17Speaker 1: being Dominican. But I'm not gonna sit here and complain
- 28:21Speaker 1: about it. I'm just going to create my own opportunities.
- 28:27Speaker 1: And that's what I've been doing. I've been working on
- 28:29Speaker 1: a TV show that um hopefully you know, I can't
- 28:32Speaker 1: really talk about it yet, but you know, I've been
- 28:35Speaker 1: pitching to TV shows at one one specifically, and the
- 28:39Speaker 1: other one I'm I'm hopefully going to pitch uh soon.
- 28:43Speaker 1: But yeah, it's just me bringing my people also and
- 28:47Speaker 1: showing us that we all look different and we have
- 28:50Speaker 1: different dialects and and I do love the fusion of
- 28:53Speaker 1: Mexican and Dominican because that's going on a lot here
- 28:57Speaker 1: in l A. Finally, you know, there's a lot of
- 28:59Speaker 1: Dominicans coming up, you know, even in um the show
- 29:03Speaker 1: uh gentrifiedfid Hentified Yea, Julius took out that on exactly,
- 29:11Speaker 1: so that really but they didn't make I don't know
- 29:12Speaker 1: if she's Dominican on the show. She is. She plays
- 29:16Speaker 1: a Dominican character on the show. We interviewed her on
- 29:19Speaker 1: look At about her role as yes Nica on Hnified,
- 29:23Speaker 1: and they actually wrote her in. Originally the character wasn't
- 29:28Speaker 1: a Dominican character that she was auditioning for, but after
- 29:30Speaker 1: she auditioned, they were like, let's change up the storyline
- 29:33Speaker 1: and let's make her a Dominicana who moves to l
- 29:35Speaker 1: A And it's like, now here in this community, Yeah,
- 29:38Speaker 1: that's wonderful. I didn't get to watch the last season,
- 29:41Speaker 1: but I do. I do love that. I love that
- 29:44Speaker 1: they're open to maybe, you know, liking someone and try
- 29:48Speaker 1: and change this because it's half we're living it, so
- 29:51Speaker 1: we deserve that representation. And I told you I moved
- 29:54Speaker 1: here when I was fifteen and they didn't know what
- 29:56Speaker 1: to do with me. She's like, you know, I have long,
- 29:58Speaker 1: curly hair, I'm brown, and um, I speak fluent Spanish,
- 30:02Speaker 1: but I don't look Mexican. You know, when I first
- 30:04Speaker 1: moved here and I actually quit acting and I focused
- 30:08Speaker 1: on my music. I was in a girl group working
- 30:10Speaker 1: under like the Black Eyed Peas, and then I moved
- 30:13Speaker 1: to Miami, then Miami to New York and then and
- 30:17Speaker 1: I said, hey, after sitting year, I said, maybe New
- 30:21Speaker 1: Yorker and let me give this a try because I
- 30:23Speaker 1: see my people here. You know, there was in the
- 30:25Speaker 1: hips there was all this like Dominicans and I was like,
- 30:28Speaker 1: oh my god, here Dominican. I was so impressed by
- 30:30Speaker 1: anyone Dominican in Hollywood. And at the time, I think
- 30:33Speaker 1: I just met Daniel Ramidez when I was fifteen, and
- 30:36Speaker 1: she yeah, and she was in Fat Albert and I
- 30:38Speaker 1: was like, I want to be an actress too, and she,
- 30:41Speaker 1: you know, she's like you could do with girl. You know,
- 30:43Speaker 1: I inspired me, But that was like the only one
- 30:46Speaker 1: that you know, was was really working. So I tried
- 30:49Speaker 1: it out in New York and and Oranges the New
- 30:51Speaker 1: Black was my first audition after I quit for six years,
- 30:53Speaker 1: and I was just working on music because I have
- 30:55Speaker 1: an EP out in two thousand and ten, and I
- 30:59Speaker 1: booked Orange in two thousand and twelve. And I would
- 31:02Speaker 1: love for you to talk about any advice you might
- 31:05Speaker 1: have for folks listening who have their own aspirations of
- 31:08Speaker 1: going into the arts and entertainment professionally. I think, especially
- 31:13Speaker 1: in Latin X Latino communities, we are sort of prepped
- 31:18Speaker 1: to go to college or become professionals and try and
- 31:22Speaker 1: find a secure career, and we're not necessarily encouraged to
- 31:25Speaker 1: go into the arts, to go into acting. It's not
- 31:28Speaker 1: a huge thing for us in our youth. So what
- 31:31Speaker 1: would you advise to those who are artists themselves but
- 31:35Speaker 1: not sure how to get started. I see, you know,
- 31:38Speaker 1: you gotta follow your heart. Literally, I was waitressing for
- 31:41Speaker 1: ten years and you know, working like the night shift.
- 31:45Speaker 1: I actually worked Season one, two and three as a waitress,
- 31:50Speaker 1: and yeah, and I was recognizable, but I was seeing
- 31:55Speaker 1: and I did get extra tip, you know, I was
- 31:59Speaker 1: you know, second lu I was like, of course I'm black.
- 32:01Speaker 1: She's like, oh, can I get a picture with you?
- 32:03Speaker 1: I was like, oh yes, and um they would do pictures.
- 32:06Speaker 1: She's like, okay, I'm gonna need that sugar free red
- 32:08Speaker 1: Bull and vodka please. I was like, I got you, girl,
- 32:11Speaker 1: and like it was just beautiful because I felt, you know,
- 32:15Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved going to work. I love
- 32:17Speaker 1: that people recognize the show. I love you know, uh
- 32:22Speaker 1: that I you know that that door opened for me.
- 32:26Speaker 1: But it was a struggle. It was a struggle through
- 32:29Speaker 1: my family. Like my father, he wasn't really excited because
- 32:33Speaker 1: I didn't finish college, you know, my Diaz. They were like,
- 32:35Speaker 1: you know, you're getting a little older. But if I
- 32:38Speaker 1: could tell you anything, never put a time limit on
- 32:41Speaker 1: your dream. And it's gonna come when when, when it's
- 32:44Speaker 1: ready for you. And while you're waiting, work on your
- 32:47Speaker 1: craft because every day, if you think about it, if
- 32:50Speaker 1: God put that passion in your heart, why wouldn't you
- 32:53Speaker 1: do that? You know, why would you Why would you
- 32:55Speaker 1: work doing something that you really don't like? So you know,
- 32:59Speaker 1: it's it's it's hard. I mean I was homeless at
- 33:01Speaker 1: one point, you know, I I really I went from zero,
- 33:05Speaker 1: you know, I started from I went from zero. Then
- 33:08Speaker 1: I got back to zero, and I got back to zero.
- 33:11Speaker 1: And all my failures are the reason that I'm here today.
- 33:14Speaker 1: And I could share my story because my my my
- 33:18Speaker 1: journey was was you know, very very hard to get
- 33:22Speaker 1: to where I'm at. But I don't regret, and I
- 33:26Speaker 1: love that I did have to work so hard because
- 33:29Speaker 1: someone that is looking at me now saying like, yo,
- 33:33Speaker 1: you know, she actually did it and she went through this,
- 33:35Speaker 1: She went through that, She went through this, and I'm
- 33:37Speaker 1: going through this, and you know, maybe you need that.
- 33:41Speaker 1: You need that because you know that helps me with
- 33:43Speaker 1: my writing, That helps me with my acting. The pain,
- 33:46Speaker 1: you know, the pain does help. You know, even as
- 33:48Speaker 1: Fernando and artists like U, people use that pain and
- 33:53Speaker 1: make art from it, whether it's music, whether it's painting,
- 33:56Speaker 1: whether it's you know, bringing those feelings to your acting.
- 33:59Speaker 1: So just don't give up, and you believe in you.
- 34:02Speaker 1: That's the most important thing. When you believe in yourself
- 34:05Speaker 1: and you are yourself, not trying to be someone else.
- 34:08Speaker 1: Because you see all the music out there were all
- 34:10Speaker 1: the actors and trying to look like them and trying
- 34:13Speaker 1: to be like them. No, no one's gonna be like
- 34:15Speaker 1: you know, one's gonna look like you. And that's what's
- 34:16Speaker 1: gonna that's where you're gonna shine when you're yourself. And
- 34:20Speaker 1: I learned that through my music really when I found
- 34:23Speaker 1: me with my song at Least sixteen. That is such
- 34:29Speaker 1: such beautiful advice. Thank you so much for offering all
- 34:32Speaker 1: of that the word words of wisdom that you just
- 34:35Speaker 1: you know, spoke about, you know, when you were starting,
- 34:38Speaker 1: when you were when Orange and You Black was really
- 34:41Speaker 1: taking off. I feel like that was one of the
- 34:43Speaker 1: first Netflix original series, right, And so we've parts and
- 34:49Speaker 1: Oranges and Black. Yeah, right, And so you know now
- 34:52Speaker 1: we see like all these Netflix originals, um, and they're
- 34:56Speaker 1: what we talked about on the podcast is that there's
- 34:58Speaker 1: somewhat of a cultural disconnect up with our families and
- 35:01Speaker 1: we can accomplish all these really amazing, fantastic things and
- 35:04Speaker 1: our families may not necessarily get it. And so did
- 35:08Speaker 1: you experience that with your family when you were you
- 35:11Speaker 1: know on this hit Netflix series. Did they understand what
- 35:14Speaker 1: Netflix was at the time, and like the power of it? Girl,
- 35:18Speaker 1: my cousin, one of them, I don't say names, she
- 35:21Speaker 1: was like, what is this a web series? I'm gonna
- 35:25Speaker 1: I'm gonna get a DVD like sent to my house. Like, girl,
- 35:29Speaker 1: I don't know, I think you should like look into
- 35:31Speaker 1: doing other the things. And I was like what And
- 35:37Speaker 1: like even my job, the manager at my job, nobody
- 35:40Speaker 1: was like impressed by Netflix at the time, you know
- 35:42Speaker 1: what I mean? And literally we had we started binge watching,
- 35:46Speaker 1: and you know, I feel like one of the godmothers
- 35:48Speaker 1: of Netflix because we I just I feel like, yeah,
- 35:53Speaker 1: there was a big disconnect. But my mom was always proud.
- 35:58Speaker 1: Just she's the one person that never gave up on me,
- 36:02Speaker 1: and she's like, especially you know, after my car accident,
- 36:04Speaker 1: she was just like, oh, you need to make it
- 36:06Speaker 1: more than ever now, Jackie, because you're not supposed to
- 36:08Speaker 1: be here. God gave you another chance, and why wouldn't
- 36:11Speaker 1: it be to live your dream and share your story
- 36:12Speaker 1: and inspire others. So yeah, I you know, that's you know,
- 36:18Speaker 1: that's it. Like Netflix has become this monster, like in
- 36:23Speaker 1: a good, good month Conster, and it's kind of beautiful
- 36:27Speaker 1: to be that show that kicked off like such an
- 36:30Speaker 1: amazing you know, streaming for for everyone because now then
- 36:35Speaker 1: Hulu copied and Amazon and all these people, like we're like, oh,
- 36:39Speaker 1: these these people are into something, and uh yeah, it's
- 36:43Speaker 1: really it's really cool to be a part of that
- 36:45Speaker 1: massive um beginning. And also, you know Netflix, like Ted
- 36:49Speaker 1: Serrando's like we can calm him any any day. He'll
- 36:57Speaker 1: write us to eat lunch at his house, and he's
- 36:59Speaker 1: he like the head of Netflix, you know what I mean.
- 37:01Speaker 1: So it feels good to have that that family is
- 37:04Speaker 1: still there for us. And when I have projects, hopefully
- 37:07Speaker 1: I can you know, bring it to them and you
- 37:09Speaker 1: know we'll see. I mean, Netflix is always going to
- 37:11Speaker 1: have that special you know, place in my heart because
- 37:14Speaker 1: it opened the doors for a lot of us, and
- 37:17Speaker 1: it was groundbreaking. I don't think till this day we
- 37:21Speaker 1: have a show like Oranges into Black, So I feel
- 37:24Speaker 1: like we need to go back to that, you know,
- 37:26Speaker 1: to the beginning and and and show the world these
- 37:29Speaker 1: incredible women's stories and and I five five Dominicans in
- 37:34Speaker 1: one show. I mean, I think I want to see
- 37:37Speaker 1: more of that. Truly groundbreaking. Um it was, and that
- 37:44Speaker 1: the show, like you said, that launched this an entire
- 37:48Speaker 1: cultural shift into the way that we watch TV, like
- 37:52Speaker 1: the Binge Model, right, And it was launched because of
- 37:56Speaker 1: this show that was about women of color, Like that
- 37:59Speaker 1: is what caught everybody's attention to the extent that they
- 38:02Speaker 1: could not get enough, like they had to watch more.
- 38:04Speaker 1: And I think that's super cool. I I just feel
- 38:08Speaker 1: so blessed that, um that that was my open door.
- 38:13Speaker 1: And I made it. I made I made I made
- 38:16Speaker 1: it through that door being Latina. Yes, I was mad
- 38:19Speaker 1: he got up, but I was there with my girls,
- 38:22Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And like a lot of
- 38:25Speaker 1: us in the in this industry, who do who do
- 38:27Speaker 1: look unique and different like you know, let's say it's
- 38:31Speaker 1: always Sandana or whatever, you know, like Rosario Dawson, like
- 38:35Speaker 1: it was, it's hard to break into the industry being
- 38:37Speaker 1: who you are, you know, because they never seen anyone
- 38:40Speaker 1: like you, you know, So it kind of felt really
- 38:43Speaker 1: amazing to be known for for being Latina and being
- 38:47Speaker 1: that girl that everyone thinks, that's your home girl, you
- 38:50Speaker 1: know what I mean. So yeah, I think we need
- 38:54Speaker 1: to continue making shows like that, because that's why I
- 38:56Speaker 1: started my own production company called Unspoken Film, and I've
- 39:01Speaker 1: been working on a lot of incredible things and hopefully
- 39:05Speaker 1: you'll see them very soon. Yes, absolutely, Thank you so
- 39:08Speaker 1: much Jackie Cruz for joining us, your phenomenal actress, musician. UM,
- 39:14Speaker 1: and we're excited to see this next phase where you're
- 39:17Speaker 1: creating projects, right, and you're creating the hit Netflix series
- 39:20Speaker 1: show right like, let's just call it now, don't work, Yeah,
- 39:25Speaker 1: let's call it now. Where can folks keep up with
- 39:27Speaker 1: your projects and your work? Um? Jackie Cruise dot com
- 39:32Speaker 1: and um um follow me on my social at Jackie
- 39:36Speaker 1: Cruise and uh yeah that's pretty much it, you know,
- 39:39Speaker 1: Like I just love that I feel like um as
- 39:42Speaker 1: a musician to like I am a voice for the
- 39:45Speaker 1: people and and I just I don't have like a
- 39:49Speaker 1: machine behind me like on my own team. So like
- 39:52Speaker 1: everything you've seen, like you know, on in my music
- 39:56Speaker 1: is all created through through me and my my vision
- 39:59Speaker 1: to so you know, I need I need your support.
- 40:02Speaker 1: I need you all to listen to my music. I
- 40:05Speaker 1: you know, I because I'm my own machine. So if
- 40:09Speaker 1: I could leave you with anything, it's just that you
- 40:12Speaker 1: never put a time limit on your dream and follow
- 40:15Speaker 1: your heart because no matter how long it takes, like
- 40:17Speaker 1: you won't be happy until you do what you're meant
- 40:20Speaker 1: to do and whatever it is that your heart desires.
- 40:24Speaker 1: Jackie CRUs actress, feminist. We hadn't even talk about feminism today, actress, feminist, singer, songwriter.
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