Latest / The SME Stream / Peter Lewis: Asia business correspondent says China's economy shows signs of strain
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Sale is coming. Please don't find.
- 0:18Speaker 2: Welcome back to the program. And so the battle continues
- 0:20Speaker 2: on the text ninety two ninety two small charge appliers
- 0:22Speaker 2: about whether a duty lawyer on one hundred and eight
- 0:24Speaker 2: dollars an hour as well paid or not. And of
- 0:26Speaker 2: course we've got some people who are caregivers saying i'd
- 0:30Speaker 2: call for that sort of money because they're on less
- 0:32Speaker 2: and we know that. And we've got another text in
- 0:34Speaker 2: here saying, dickens, a caregiver doesn't go to law school
- 0:37Speaker 2: for five years and come out with a massive debt.
- 0:39Speaker 2: So that is a stupid comparison, but that is true.
- 0:41Speaker 2: But at the same time, a caregether lives with the
- 0:45Speaker 2: person that they're given care with, possibly for all their lives.
- 0:47Speaker 2: Many caregivers never work at all and can never work
- 0:50Speaker 2: at all because they have somebody that they have to
- 0:53Speaker 2: give care too and it's not their choice, and it
- 0:57Speaker 2: is a full time profession, and the work they do,
- 1:00Speaker 2: it's very important because it saves the state from the
- 1:03Speaker 2: money spent from institutionalization. So that's sort of fair comparison.
- 1:07Speaker 2: Either the duty lawyer is doing something of their own
- 1:10Speaker 2: volition and of their own choice. But many caregivers have
- 1:14Speaker 2: not been given the choice. It's their familial obligation. And
- 1:19Speaker 2: really if they were given the choice and they could
- 1:22Speaker 2: actually make the decision, they wouldn't be doing what they're doing.
- 1:24Speaker 2: At the same time, both of them, the duty lawyer
- 1:27Speaker 2: and the caregiver, are doing God's work and I thank
- 1:31Speaker 2: you for that. It is twenty two to seven. After
- 1:34Speaker 2: Asia we go Peter Lewis, good evening to you.
- 1:37Speaker 1: Good evening, Andrew.
- 1:38Speaker 2: So, China's economy. We're always looking at China's economy. It's
- 1:42Speaker 2: got a bit of strain. Considering the whole twer for
- 1:46Speaker 2: and considering everything, it's been doing well, but it's showing
- 1:48Speaker 2: signs of strain. In November it is indeed.
- 1:52Speaker 1: I mean, if you look into the details, we had
- 1:56Speaker 1: a whole load of data on fixedas's investments, on retail sales,
- 2:01Speaker 1: on industrial production. I think the most worrying thing is
- 2:04Speaker 1: fixed acid investments actually, which has now declined for the
- 2:08Speaker 1: third month in a row. Now we've never seen that before.
- 2:12Speaker 1: Since data was first published by China on its economy.
- 2:17Speaker 1: Normally there's been a lot of interest in investing in China.
- 2:20Speaker 1: But what this is now term negative and it shows
- 2:23Speaker 1: that both businesses and households just don't want to invest
- 2:29Speaker 1: at the moment in the Chinese economy.
- 2:32Speaker 2: Now.
- 2:32Speaker 1: One of the main reasons for that is this slide
- 2:35Speaker 1: in house prices, which we've seen now for four years, NonStop.
- 2:39Speaker 1: Investments in property down about sixteen percent from a year ago,
- 2:45Speaker 1: and that's being transmitted more to the consumer side. What
- 2:48Speaker 1: consumers are doing is they're looking to pay down debt
- 2:52Speaker 1: at the moment rather than spend money and build up
- 2:57Speaker 1: new expenditure. So this is going to be a challenge
- 3:01Speaker 1: for China next year because Mehijinping wants to reorientate the
- 3:06Speaker 1: economy towards more the domestic side and less reliance on exports.
- 3:12Speaker 1: Many overseas countries have called for that as well. They're saying.
- 3:16Speaker 1: We had Immanual Macron in Beijing just last month saying
- 3:20Speaker 1: that the pain that all this reliance and exports was
- 3:25Speaker 1: causing to overseas economies was unbearable, and the IMF has
- 3:29Speaker 1: called for China to rebalance its economy over the coming
- 3:34Speaker 1: months more towards domestic consumption. So this is going to
- 3:37Speaker 1: be the big challenge for China next year. Now, in
- 3:40Speaker 1: some ways, I mean, you know, it's in a good
- 3:42Speaker 1: position to be able to do that. If you look
- 3:43Speaker 1: at this economy overall, it's growing at five percent year
- 3:47Speaker 1: on year. Now that's a good rate of growth. Many
- 3:50Speaker 1: countries would be would love to see that sort of growth.
- 3:55Speaker 1: But it's very very lopsided, relying very very heavily on exports.
- 4:02Speaker 1: So this is going to be the big challenge for
- 4:04Speaker 1: China in twenty twenty six.
- 4:06Speaker 2: Absolutely, the Chinese tiger, though, has been going great guns
- 4:09Speaker 2: over the last fifteen to twenty years. But Ji Jimping
- 4:13Speaker 2: gave a very interesting warning to his officials because he
- 4:15Speaker 2: doesn't want them to chase what he would call reckless
- 4:18Speaker 2: GDP expansion.
- 4:20Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, and he's talking a lot about in particular
- 4:24Speaker 1: reckless sort of themes like large industrial parks, building all
- 4:32Speaker 1: these unnecessary cities, of some of which he is promoted.
- 4:35Speaker 1: He promoted a huge new mega city south of Beijing,
- 4:39Speaker 1: which was supposed to eventually take over from Beijing, but
- 4:42Speaker 1: that never really happened, and all that's there is empty
- 4:46Speaker 1: apartment blocks and empty empty factories. But he wants an
- 4:53Speaker 1: end to that, and he wants sort of economic plans
- 4:58Speaker 1: to be based around sustain the long term gains, particularly
- 5:04Speaker 1: trying to boost the sort of green economy, and he
- 5:06Speaker 1: wants to change the way in which local government officials
- 5:10Speaker 1: are evaluated. He said they shouldn't be judged on GDP
- 5:14Speaker 1: growth rates, but on broader achievements such as improving people's
- 5:19Speaker 1: well being, maintaining stability, on so on. This reminds me
- 5:23Speaker 1: a little bit of Bhutan's measure of its well being
- 5:26Speaker 1: by gross national happiness rather than gross national products. But
- 5:32Speaker 1: he wants he wants to change the whole way in
- 5:35Speaker 1: which officials are measured so that they're not tempted to
- 5:39Speaker 1: chase sort of unrealistic growth targets and using unsustainable methods
- 5:45Speaker 1: and fake statistics and the likes to achieve that. So
- 5:50Speaker 1: he wants sustainability and more long term goals in the
- 5:55Speaker 1: economic growth environments.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Will helps when you have a domestic market of like
- 5:59Speaker 2: one point to one point three billion people that you
- 6:02Speaker 2: can survive on that. And they've seen the shots that
- 6:05Speaker 2: have come from America, and they've also been developing. While
- 6:08Speaker 2: they've been doing all the export, they've also been doing
- 6:10Speaker 2: all that incredible power network and as you say, sustainable
- 6:13Speaker 2: green power production and building data centers and all that
- 6:16Speaker 2: sort of thing. So they're quite self reliant, quite a
- 6:19Speaker 2: remarkable economy. Now lit's been to another country. Let's go
- 6:22Speaker 2: to Thailand, where things are not getting any easier. They've
- 6:25Speaker 2: just dissolved their parliament and they're still in conflict with Cambodia.
- 6:30Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, I mean Thailand has never really recovered from
- 6:35Speaker 1: the pandemic. It's an economy that's very dependent upon tourism
- 6:39Speaker 1: and it's just really struggled to get momentum behind its
- 6:43Speaker 1: economy since that, since then, and that's the case today
- 6:47Speaker 1: as well. It also has a rather unstable political environment.
- 6:52Speaker 1: The government has to rely on rather large, unwielderly coalitions
- 6:57Speaker 1: and there's elections on a regular base. Is well, now
- 7:01Speaker 1: we've got another one. The prime minister disaster to dissolve parliament,
- 7:05Speaker 1: which the King has granted, so that means there now
- 7:08Speaker 1: has to be another election within forty five to sixty days.
- 7:14Speaker 1: Rather alarmingly, the Prime Minister Anatin is sort of turning
- 7:18Speaker 1: to nationalistic sentiments. This often seems to happen with governments,
- 7:22Speaker 1: doesn't it Around Asia, around the world actually, when they're
- 7:25Speaker 1: fighting for their political survival. So he's sort of rather
- 7:30Speaker 1: relying on these border clashes with Cambodia and taking a
- 7:34Speaker 1: very hard line stance on that he doesn't want a
- 7:38Speaker 1: cease fire at all until basically Cambodia sort of capitulates,
- 7:45Speaker 1: and that he hope it will boost him that hard
- 7:49Speaker 1: line stance in the polls ahead of the election. The
- 7:52Speaker 1: problem is this clash with Cambodia is really disrupting trade
- 8:00Speaker 1: the moment and also putting tourists off as well, so
- 8:04Speaker 1: it's not helping the economy and there's a risk that
- 8:07Speaker 1: if these migrant labor flows, which Thailand is very dependent upon,
- 8:12Speaker 1: are disrupted, or even worse, if Donald Trump, who helped
- 8:15Speaker 1: broker the peace agreement between the two countries, decides to
- 8:19Speaker 1: reimpose tariffs on Thailand, then its economy is really going
- 8:24Speaker 1: to suffer.
- 8:25Speaker 2: YEP, thank you so much. Peter Lewis out of the Asia.
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