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Hank Sheinkopf | Political Consultant Speaks on the Demise of Upstate New York · Sid & Friends In The Morning

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  Speaker 1: I'm sure Hank Shankop has been to Syracuse. Let's ask
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  Speaker 1: him the brilliant mind that is Hank. I love having
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  Speaker 1: this guy on. Hank, you've been to Syracuse?
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  Speaker 2: Of course, Sid. Many, many years ago.
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  Speaker 1: And what do you think of that town?
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  Speaker 2: Nice people. Town needs help.
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  Speaker 1: You know what's funny about that? The town does need help.
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  Speaker 1: And I don't care, Hank Shankop, if it's Syracuse or
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  Speaker 1: Rochester or Utica or right outside where my mom lives
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  Speaker 1: in upstate New York, Monticello. All these towns are widowed
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  Speaker 1: with people that are drug addled, completely poor, no jobs
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  Speaker 1: and no hope. And Andrew Cuomo and Kathy Hochul, the
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  Speaker 1: last two governors, promised they would spend their time fixing
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  Speaker 1: all those upstate New York towns. And they've done none
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  Speaker 1: of that. In fact, in fact, they've gone the other
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  Speaker 1: way by ruining business. Is that fair to say?
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  Speaker 2: It's fair to say that everybody keeps talking about repairing
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  Speaker 2: central New York and the southern tier and pushing the
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  Speaker 2: west of New York. And the end result is that
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  Speaker 2: nothing gets repaired and nothing gets changed. um you know
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  Speaker 2: it's really quite bizarre and it goes on and on
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  Speaker 2: the people in those places can't go anywhere the industrial
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  Speaker 2: uh jobs are gone there was a clean out during
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  Speaker 2: the early cuomo years right the first cuomo years um
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  Speaker 2: and you know it's it's a disaster and it's not
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  Speaker 2: fair these are decent people who want to work and
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  Speaker 2: they've been nothing they've got no jobs they've got no
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  Speaker 2: decent lives so what do people expect is going to
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  Speaker 2: happen you have people the southerns here working three jobs
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  Speaker 2: to survive Terrible. No, it is.
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  Speaker 1: And some of these towns like Syracuse have got the
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  Speaker 1: great university. I'll tell you another one. Great school. One
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  Speaker 1: of the best state schools in the country. Binghamton. You
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  Speaker 1: leave the university. It's poverty all over the place.
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  Speaker 2: Southern tier. It's a real problem. And the obsession with
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  Speaker 2: talking about it doesn't accomplish anything. You know, what's the
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  Speaker 2: economic plan for the rest of the state of New York?
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  Speaker 2: There is not. It just kind of dribbles along. And
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  Speaker 2: when people run for governor or for others, they talk
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  Speaker 2: about all the wonderful things they're going to do. But
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  Speaker 2: they don't. That's remained the same for a long, long time.
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  Speaker 2: And there's no indication it'll get any better.
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  Speaker 1: Well, let me ask you this. Let me say there's
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  Speaker 1: no indication it'll get any better. Give me an honest answer,
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  Speaker 1: which you always do. That's why I love having you on.
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  Speaker 1: Bruce Blakeman, what do you think of his campaign so far?
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  Speaker 2: Bruce Blakeman is a very decent guy with a good
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  Speaker 2: record who was absolutely committed to making the state better.
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  Speaker 1: Period.
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  Speaker 2: And you can't say anything bad about him. He's a
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  Speaker 2: good man.
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  Speaker 1: So, in your estimation, and you're a very smart guy,
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  Speaker 1: you've been around this game a long time, because I
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  Speaker 1: think you would be, do you think he'd be an
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  Speaker 1: exponentially better governor than Kathy Hochul?
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  Speaker 2: The problem he will face is the Hochul problem, which
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  Speaker 2: is the state's finances, the city's finances, It's going to
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  Speaker 2: be quite, after going into next year, it's going to
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  Speaker 2: be quite, quite, quite difficult. We're going to face some
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  Speaker 2: severe fiscal issues that the present mayor of New York
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  Speaker 2: City is really not interested in fixing. What he seems
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  Speaker 2: to be interested in doing is preparing to demand more
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  Speaker 2: money from the governor to keep the city running because
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  Speaker 2: he can't do it with the kind of budgets he's
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  Speaker 2: talking about, the kind of programming he's talking about, while
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  Speaker 2: having the kind of revenue he won't be talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Blakeman's going to have to stand up to him if
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  Speaker 2: he's the governor. And that's going to be a big deal.
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  Speaker 2: Very big deal. We can face something against the 1975
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  Speaker 2: going into the next year, year and a half, if
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  Speaker 2: this continues.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Blakeman's a tough guy. He's the box, you know.
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  Speaker 1: He's not afraid of Mamdani, and he will stand up
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  Speaker 1: to him, but This creep, you're right, this creep took
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  Speaker 1: a victory lap after his budget when the truth is
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  Speaker 1: Kathy Hochul bailed him out. And she bailed him out.
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  Speaker 1: Let's not forget, it took a very, very, very long
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  Speaker 1: time for Mamdani to even endorse Hochul. She did it
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  Speaker 1: right away. She couldn't wait. It took him forever. He
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  Speaker 1: didn't show her any loyalty. Now he does. Now he
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  Speaker 1: does because she bailed him out. But the truth is,
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  Speaker 1: why would he do a victory lap on his budget
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  Speaker 1: when the state had to bail him out?
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  Speaker 2: Eight billion bucks. It's a lot of cabbage, as we
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  Speaker 2: used to say. Look, I've been involved with municipal unions
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  Speaker 2: for an awfully long time, looked at budgets for an
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  Speaker 2: awfully long time, and been involved in crisis management, which
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  Speaker 2: is the bulk of my business, for an awfully long time.
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  Speaker 2: The reality here is what people don't want to face.
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  Speaker 2: This guy is the dreamer. Someone has to be a
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  Speaker 2: realist and say to the dreamer, by the way, we're
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  Speaker 2: not going to fund your revolution. You have to figure
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  Speaker 2: out how you're going to make it affordable. And he
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  Speaker 2: can't do that. And the battle is going to be
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  Speaker 2: proving that he's wrong to the people that support him most.
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  Speaker 2: When they find out what this is really going to
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  Speaker 2: cost and who's not going to pay for it, they're
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  Speaker 2: going to revolt. It's going to be quite something to watch.
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  Speaker 2: Quite something to watch.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if they're going to revolt, though. That's
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  Speaker 1: the problem. And maybe I've just lost all confidence in
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  Speaker 1: the Democrat New Yorker or the DSA New Yorker or
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  Speaker 1: the anti-Republican New Yorker. I don't know. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: keep getting told by people, hey, Sid, while you spend
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  Speaker 1: your days and nights hating on the mayor, which I do,
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  Speaker 1: every day I hate on the mayor. I really do
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  Speaker 1: hate him. While you spend your days and nights doing that,
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  Speaker 1: his popularity is growing. Is that true?
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  Speaker 2: Sid, you and I are in agreement. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 2: that they're going to revolt against the mayor. They're going
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  Speaker 2: to revolt against the system. They're very unhappy they can't
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  Speaker 2: get what he's promising. There's nothing to indicate right now
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  Speaker 2: that people would be terribly opposed to the mayor. He's
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  Speaker 2: an extraordinarily talented politician. He is great to the camera.
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  Speaker 2: He is good. His mouth works like a charm. And
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  Speaker 2: thus far, he can blame everybody else for everything. And
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  Speaker 2: that kind of behavior is going to continue. That's what
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  Speaker 2: he's good at. He's a demagogue in non-demagogue clothing. And
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  Speaker 2: he's really good at it. and he knows how to
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  Speaker 2: find good enemies. The city's demographics are changing, its economics
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  Speaker 2: are changing. That generally is the precursor to having these
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  Speaker 2: kinds of elections where the outcomes are unusual and unexpected.
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  Speaker 2: So what the city will face is something that he's
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  Speaker 2: never understood and has no desire to understand. What you
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  Speaker 2: need is an adult in Albany who's prepared to tell
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  Speaker 2: him No. And to understand that if the city goes
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  Speaker 2: through what it looks like it's going to go through,
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  Speaker 2: the recovery time won't be as easy as it was, frankly,
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  Speaker 2: in 75, which was not easy at all.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's a tough job for Blakeman.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think is really behind this talking about
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  Speaker 1: his relationships and people tend to like him, President Trump?
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  Speaker 1: You know, I've had people tell me that are very
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  Speaker 1: close to the president.
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  Speaker 2: Related.
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  Speaker 1: He doesn't really like him, but he wants New York
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  Speaker 1: to survive. Others have said, Yeah, he kind of likes him. Now,
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  Speaker 1: you know this. I love the president. I've got a
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  Speaker 1: great relationship with the president. We're legitimately friends. But every
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  Speaker 1: time he says something nice, I'm Donnie, or comes to
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  Speaker 1: Gracie Mansion, I go nuts. And I do think the
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  Speaker 1: president is aware of it, probably doesn't like it, but
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  Speaker 1: I can't help myself. I'm sorry. What do you think
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  Speaker 1: is the true nature of that relationship?
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  Speaker 2: Puts your enemies to sleep. It's always a better way
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  Speaker 2: to deal with them. And the reality is somewhat difficult
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  Speaker 2: for a lot of people to understand. Should New York
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  Speaker 2: go belly up, which is not out of the realm
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  Speaker 2: of possibility. New York City go belly up, not in
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  Speaker 2: the realm of possibility at all. The mayor's going to
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  Speaker 2: have to go to the president, to the Federal Reserve,
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  Speaker 2: to get a bailout loan probably, right? Yeah. Guess what?
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  Speaker 2: This president does not want to be the guy to
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  Speaker 2: tell New York City.
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  Speaker 1: So you're telling me that, and I get all that, okay?
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  Speaker 1: But can he do all that? and still be civil
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  Speaker 1: without really going over the top, compliments, great guy, potential
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  Speaker 1: to be a great mayor. You think that Trump, to
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  Speaker 1: get what you're talking about, needs to lather him up
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  Speaker 1: that much?
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  Speaker 2: Now, I think Trump is smarter than that. What I
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  Speaker 2: think he's doing is not lathering him up so much.
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  Speaker 2: He's trying to make his enemies see him as a
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  Speaker 2: more multidimensional, see Trump as a more multidimensional character.
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  Speaker 1: So you've used the word enemy now twice, Hank, and
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  Speaker 1: you're a very smart guy. So you think Trump, despite
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  Speaker 1: this public deal, views the mayor as an enemy?
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  Speaker 2: I think Trump knows who Mondani really is.
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  Speaker 1: I love that answer.
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  Speaker 2: And he knows who he really is. And he's very cagey.
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  Speaker 2: That president is very, very smart about protecting his church
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  Speaker 2: and about ensuring that he can do what he wants.
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  Speaker 2: He knows what's coming down. He knows he doesn't want
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  Speaker 2: to have Mamdani campaigning against Republicans and others any more
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  Speaker 2: than is necessary. Although it probably would help the Republicans
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  Speaker 2: get elected, quite frankly, outside New York City. And there
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  Speaker 2: is a wall that's been constructed effectively at the Nassau
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  Speaker 2: County line and Westchester line. against Mondani. People know who
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  Speaker 2: he is. So does the president of the United States.
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  Speaker 2: So to create an additional war, what do you need
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  Speaker 2: more conflict? The president is smart enough to constrain conflict
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  Speaker 2: where it's needed and not to create conflict where it's
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  Speaker 2: not needed. And right now, that battle with Mondani does
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  Speaker 2: not help them.
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  Speaker 1: No, it doesn't. But I would ask you this, okay?
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  Speaker 1: He's got three plus years to go. It feels like
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  Speaker 1: Mamdani's been mayor for a hundred years. It's only been
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  Speaker 1: about nine months. It's already a disaster. You talk about
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  Speaker 1: Republicans winning outside of New York City. And the onus
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  Speaker 1: is on Eddie. I love Ed Cox. Nice guy, but
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  Speaker 1: and the Republican Party in New York to put out
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  Speaker 1: better candidates. I mean, this Curtis Sliwa was a joke.
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  Speaker 1: He was out there the whole time just trying to
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  Speaker 1: make sure Cuomo didn't win. The whole city was scared
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  Speaker 1: to death of Mamdani. All Curtis cared about was make
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  Speaker 1: sure Cuomo doesn't win. And I'm not sure what benefits
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  Speaker 1: he reaped from that. The guy's doing videos of the
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  Speaker 1: inner circle, They're getting a flu shot together and yucking
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  Speaker 1: it up this weekend. It really is grotesque for people
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  Speaker 1: like me that put my trust and put Curtis on
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  Speaker 1: every day for six years because I thought he really
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  Speaker 1: wanted a win. As it turns out, he never wanted
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  Speaker 1: a win. He just wanted to make sure Cuomo didn't win.
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  Speaker 1: He never had a shot. He never had a shot.
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  Speaker 1: Of course not. Come on, 7%. So moving forward, you know,
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  Speaker 1: my name has been bandied about. You know, they talk
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  Speaker 1: about Tisch as an independent. Let's stick with Republicans, okay?
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  Speaker 1: How do we make sure Republicans get better candidates in
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  Speaker 1: the city?
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  Speaker 2: You've got to create a Republican party in New York City.
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  Speaker 2: That's the first step. They're doing it in Brooklyn to
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  Speaker 2: some extent. You've got to have it. You've got to
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  Speaker 2: have Republicans much more vocal, much more visible. There are
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  Speaker 2: some candidates running this year who are better Republican candidates
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  Speaker 2: than we've had in some time. And you have to
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  Speaker 2: look at the historical trend. There's something wrong with the
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  Speaker 2: historical trend. What do I mean by that? If you
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  Speaker 2: look at Manhattan alone, at one point you had a
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  Speaker 2: Republican congressman, a Republican councilman, a Republican state senator, a
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  Speaker 2: Republican assemblyman. That's in the modern era, in just the
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  Speaker 2: Upper East Side. What happened? republicanism fell apart it moved
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  Speaker 2: too far to the right and now there's an opportunity
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  Speaker 2: to come back to the center and have centrist republicans
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  Speaker 2: who were upset with mondani and were afraid about jews
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  Speaker 2: being beaten in the streets which is where a step
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  Speaker 2: away from that saying much more of right we're going
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  Speaker 2: to promote against this and say we need republic we
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  Speaker 2: need a republican party that is multi-dimensional multi-functional and someone's
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  Speaker 2: going to fund doing real campaigns that are smart and
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  Speaker 2: that are potentially winnable. That's not what's happening right now.
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  Speaker 2: We have terrific people who are out there who want
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  Speaker 2: to win campaigns who are running as Republicans. There are,
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  Speaker 2: in many cases, women in New York City. We ought
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  Speaker 2: to be able to support them. Why? Whether you want
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  Speaker 2: to be a Republican or not, democracy demands multiple viewpoints
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  Speaker 2: and democracy demands a two-party system that functions well. And
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  Speaker 2: part of our problem nationally is that we don't have that.
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  Speaker 2: And anybody who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves.
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  Speaker 1: Now, you're right. I mean, we've got this. I hosted
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  Speaker 1: an event for her last week because I happen to
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  Speaker 1: like her, and I think she can win, and she's brilliant.
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  Speaker 1: Caroline Schenkel running on the Upper East Side and Upper
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  Speaker 1: West Side, running for that old Jerry Nath receipt. There's
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  Speaker 1: a woman right there running as a Republican, but common sense.
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  Speaker 1: So should the next mayor candidate be a non-politician like Trump,
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  Speaker 1: like a Sid Rosenberg or a Michael Rappaport, or... a
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  Speaker 1: wealthy businessman, somebody like Bill Ackman. Who do you think,
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  Speaker 1: what should that profile look like for the next potential
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  Speaker 1: Republican candidate?
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  Speaker 2: Let's go back in history again, Sid. And the questions
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  Speaker 2: you raised are very important ones. So let me see
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  Speaker 2: if I can distill it in this way. If you
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  Speaker 2: look at the history of New York City, going back
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  Speaker 2: to LaGuardia, Republicans have been elected citywide when there's a crisis. LaGuardia,
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  Speaker 2: the crisis was corruption. Lindsay, the crisis was the breakdown
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  Speaker 2: of city services. Giuliani, the crisis was crime, although we
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  Speaker 2: can discuss that in a different way one day. And
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  Speaker 2: for Blueberry, the crisis was 9-11. Those are the four
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  Speaker 2: Republican mayors elected since LaGuardia, right? We need a crisis
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  Speaker 2: that is discernible with candidates that are winnable. And thus far,
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  Speaker 2: the Republicans have not been able to do that since
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  Speaker 2: Mike Bloomberg. And Mike Bloomberg ran as a Republican because
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  Speaker 2: that was the best way for him to get elected,
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  Speaker 2: and as an independent. And absent 9-11, it's a question
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  Speaker 2: whether he would have been elected, but 9-11 elected him.
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  Speaker 2: There you have the story. We don't want another 9-11,
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  Speaker 2: but someone has to begin working today to prove that
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  Speaker 2: there's a crisis that has to be resolved going forward.
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  Speaker 2: Absent that, it's going to be hard to elect a Republican.
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  Speaker 1: Last one. What a great conversation. My producer just said, man,
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  Speaker 1: this guy's really smart. He really is. Hank, I guess
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  Speaker 1: we've been talking about the mayor. So let me just
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  Speaker 1: ask you this. I got a lot of people who
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  Speaker 1: yell awful things at me, call me the worst names
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  Speaker 1: you could ever imagine. And they go, you're just jealous
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  Speaker 1: because he's doing a good job. And my next question is, really?
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  Speaker 1: Then give me the four or five things he's done
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  Speaker 1: that have really helped this city in his first nine
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  Speaker 1: months in office. Some talk about this child care thing. Fantastic.
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  Speaker 2: Great.
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  Speaker 1: Others talk about freezing the rent, which, by the way,
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  Speaker 1: is screwing the landlords. And Randy Mastro is involved in
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  Speaker 1: a lawsuit there, too. You tell me, Hank, what are
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  Speaker 1: all these great things outside of smiling and doing interviews
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  Speaker 1: and wooing people like Melissa Russo should be ashamed of herself?
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  Speaker 1: What has the mayor done that is so great?
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  Speaker 2: Nothing. Thank you. Next. Next.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. That's all I wanted. God, I love you.
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  Speaker 2: It is the charismatic nature of nothingness. that is propelling
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  Speaker 2: Mazur on Mondami. And that culturally, that is an extraordinary
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  Speaker 2: charismatic position to be in. The charisma of nothingness. And
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  Speaker 2: New Yorkers love it because they are tired of somethingness.
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  Speaker 2: And here they have nothingness and it makes them feel
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  Speaker 2: so good about themselves because the words have no bearing
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  Speaker 2: to reality, but the words are what they're listening to.
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  Speaker 2: And it's quite extraordinary. And they wake up with quite
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  Speaker 2: the hangover. I know, I know.
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  Speaker 1: So are New Yorkers stupid?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the city has changed. When you have these kind
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  Speaker 2: of electoral events where the unusual occurs, like I just said,
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  Speaker 2: you have a crisis. We had a crisis, and the
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  Speaker 2: crisis was, unfortunately, the Adams administration. The other crisis was
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  Speaker 2: the failure of the political system to come up with
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  Speaker 2: candidates that were at all capable of winning in ways
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  Speaker 2: that make sense. I mean, the field of candidates was
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  Speaker 2: not good. And Mondani was just a better candidate. I
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  Speaker 2: commented to people at the time. They said, well, you
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  Speaker 2: don't know what you're talking about, you old man. I said, no,
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  Speaker 2: I'm smarter about this than most people are. And I said,
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  Speaker 2: you got to run a campaign where everything old is
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  Speaker 2: new again. What do I mean by that? It's in
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  Speaker 2: the streets and it's on the web. The rest of
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  Speaker 2: it's nonsense. They said to me, no, you don't understand.
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  Speaker 2: Most of the people who said I didn't understand were
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: trying to make enough money to buy two houses in
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  Speaker 2: the Hamptons like campaigns. But the reality is that's how
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  Speaker 2: it is, and you've got to get into the street
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  Speaker 2: to make it work. That means you have to work
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  Speaker 2: for a living. And consultants are not ready to do
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  Speaker 2: that anymore because they have this deluded idea that somehow
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  Speaker 2: God gave them the ability to grift their way through life.
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  Speaker 2: And until you get people who really want to fight
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  Speaker 2: this guy, he's going to win. He's going to win.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: He's going to win. Hank, you're amazing. I've got to
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: tell you, another amazing segment. Thank you so much for
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: doing this on this Monday morning. We really love having you, buddy.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: Thank you so much.
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: Thank you, Sid. All the best.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: All the best to you. Hank Sheinkopf right there. What
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: a great guest. And my contention is he knows more
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: about this city and the history of this city than anyone.
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: Hank Sheinkopf. What the heck is going on here?