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- 0:44Speaker 3: So much time. What's up Number one? Tyler Tamberline here
- 1:16Speaker 3: aka Totag and Tambau back for another edition of the
- 1:20Speaker 3: Takedown Breakdown this week breaking down all things Week three,
- 1:23Speaker 3: Sunday main slate gonna go through. If I told you
- 1:26Speaker 3: at the start of last week it was gonna be
- 1:28Speaker 3: JJ week, I'm guessing you would all think Justin Jefferson,
- 1:31Speaker 3: we'll see some of him later on, but Juwan Jennings
- 1:34Speaker 3: the guy to come through. We're gonna talk about that
- 1:35Speaker 3: and more. Just a fun slate all around. Hopefully some
- 1:38Speaker 3: people came off the ledge a little bit of you
- 1:41Speaker 3: can't stack in GPPs anymore and thinking that that's no
- 1:43Speaker 3: longer a thing, because when you see the winning lineups
- 1:46Speaker 3: from yesterday and a lot of the stuff that we're
- 1:47Speaker 3: gonna break down, you're gonna start to see that came
- 1:50Speaker 3: back around a lot of the conventional stacks that we're
- 1:52Speaker 3: used to the way we build out lineups. That is
- 1:55Speaker 3: what you're gonna see again. So welcome everybody, Appreciate you
- 1:58Speaker 3: being here with me this morning. Casey was first in
- 2:00Speaker 3: Sean Notes, a li Night fan, Jordan, Kevin Hart, Andrew
- 2:04Speaker 3: I got your lineup up for later. Just a lot
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- 2:18Speaker 3: a shorter show today just because it's a solo booth,
- 2:20Speaker 3: so don't have to really spin it back and forth.
- 2:22Speaker 3: But any questions you guys have, throw them into the chat.
- 2:25Speaker 3: I'm right now gonna bring up the perfect lineup from yesterday.
- 2:28Speaker 3: We'll start there as we usually do and get right
- 2:31Speaker 3: to it. All right, let's pull this up here now.
- 2:34Speaker 3: I'm gonna grab the comment sections if you guys have
- 2:36Speaker 3: anything but very high scoring slate yesterday. So a couple
- 2:39Speaker 3: different things we're seeing. Shout out to Paul Romeo, b
- 2:42Speaker 3: One Collin. Just lots of other people, big Colts fan,
- 2:45Speaker 3: everybody that's getting in here, Zach, I appreciate you guys.
- 2:48Speaker 3: We'll go through it see what we can break down.
- 2:50Speaker 3: We got some lineup reviews at the end, but just
- 2:52Speaker 3: off the top, like I said, very high scoring big
- 2:55Speaker 3: Delta from the winning twenty dollars million maker. Last week
- 2:58Speaker 3: it was only what twenty or thirty points? This week
- 3:00Speaker 3: week fifty points. So just when we look through this
- 3:02Speaker 3: and go back and try and plug some of our
- 3:03Speaker 3: thoughts into it, maybe we can find that too. And
- 3:06Speaker 3: then forty nine to three was the optimal last week,
- 3:09Speaker 3: so he left seven hundred bucks on the table again,
- 3:11Speaker 3: show you a couple of ways that if we spent
- 3:13Speaker 3: the money, I know most setting it up and optimizers,
- 3:15Speaker 3: especially in the big milli maker, are spending that forty
- 3:18Speaker 3: nine to five, forty nine six, forty nine to seven
- 3:20Speaker 3: up to the top. Most people are maxing out their
- 3:22Speaker 3: salary or spending the majority of it. So yeah, two Panthers,
- 3:26Speaker 3: Kevin says, Malik Neighbors just absolutely insane. So good right now,
- 3:29Speaker 3: we'll see him on Thursday night football. This week We've
- 3:33Speaker 3: got Dallas at the Giants, so we get to go
- 3:35Speaker 3: back to Dak and Malik neighbors on this Thursday night
- 3:38Speaker 3: football game. But we got a lot to talk about,
- 3:39Speaker 3: and we'll be back later on this channel just a
- 3:41Speaker 3: couple hours from now. Hoop title and myself breaking down
- 3:44Speaker 3: the two game slate for tonight. A lot of strategy
- 3:47Speaker 3: goes into these two game slates, especially for trying to
- 3:49Speaker 3: be unique, and then we'll be breaking down the featured
- 3:51Speaker 3: showdown slate, which is Washington at Cincinnati and the breakdown
- 3:54Speaker 3: and that as simple as just there's forty five minutes.
- 3:56Speaker 3: I believe they did them apart. So we're gonna set
- 3:59Speaker 3: it up to focus on the feet two hundred k
- 4:01Speaker 3: up top, but we'll get to that when we get there. Yeah,
- 4:03Speaker 3: don't forget. You know, our guy Rio had it in
- 4:05Speaker 3: the chat last week. We got to be on who
- 4:08Speaker 3: is it Aubrey? I think he said, we got to
- 4:09Speaker 3: be on in the in the Captain for Thursday night football.
- 4:12Speaker 3: But we're getting ahead of ourselves, so let's talk about
- 4:14Speaker 3: this one here. Dak no stack, So going back to
- 4:18Speaker 3: Dak work, but no stack required for this optimal couple
- 4:21Speaker 3: of Panthers, Tuba Hubbard, Deontay Johnson, obviously, no Bryce Young.
- 4:25Speaker 3: We know that Andy Dalton came in and smashed. He
- 4:28Speaker 3: was forty eight hundred, so eighteen hundred bucks there you
- 4:31Speaker 3: can work with. I'll go to that in a second. Neighbors,
- 4:34Speaker 3: Juwan Jennings, Dallas Goddard just went off and almost got
- 4:38Speaker 3: in the box on that late big catch too, would
- 4:40Speaker 3: have been even more. But just a crazy game for him.
- 4:43Speaker 3: And then Derrick Henry came out and smashed early. We
- 4:45Speaker 3: were talking in the discord quite a bit about him.
- 4:47Speaker 3: I post another stat this morning. It is crazy that
- 4:49Speaker 3: his whole career talk about a sample size gets better
- 4:53Speaker 3: with every month, all the way up to and even
- 4:54Speaker 3: better in January than de Hember, which is where the
- 4:57Speaker 3: nickname originally came from years ago. Packers D going up
- 5:01Speaker 3: against Will Levis just continues to play well. That Packers
- 5:04Speaker 3: D is super solid. So looking for a team that
- 5:07Speaker 3: was sort of in the range of some of the
- 5:08Speaker 3: chalk that we know is good and that there's gonna
- 5:12Speaker 3: be opportunities. We knew this with Levis. He's gonna throw
- 5:14Speaker 3: some picks, he's gonna throw some touchdowns maybe whatever it
- 5:16Speaker 3: might be, but more picks than touchdowns. So a good
- 5:18Speaker 3: game for the Packers there were twenty one, but we
- 5:20Speaker 3: got seven undred bucks to work with. So just to
- 5:22Speaker 3: break this down quickly, don't think there's anything wrong with
- 5:25Speaker 3: this lineup at all. But obviously this could have been Lamb,
- 5:29Speaker 3: and even with Lamb having a horrific game, it's still
- 5:31Speaker 3: would have won. Spoiler alert. The million Maaker winner was
- 5:34Speaker 3: two forty. So just to break down some of this,
- 5:36Speaker 3: if you took out Neighbors, threw in Lamb, make it
- 5:38Speaker 3: a little bit more conventional, you have the money to
- 5:40Speaker 3: do it, and you'd have to sorry take down Dak.
- 5:44Speaker 3: First off, My move is gonna be take Dak down
- 5:46Speaker 3: to Andy Dalton with eighteen hundred bucks plus the money
- 5:50Speaker 3: left over, because then you'd have Cheue Bobberd Deonte in
- 5:52Speaker 3: with Andy Dalton for the checkdowns for the guy that
- 5:55Speaker 3: he could pair up with that we were looking at yesterday.
- 5:58Speaker 3: Use that money to buy the Malik name up to
- 6:00Speaker 3: Dak or sorry, up to Lamb. When you don't have Dak.
- 6:04Speaker 3: That could work and you would still have enough points there.
- 6:06Speaker 3: If you wanted to take Cuba Hubbard, go to just
- 6:10Speaker 3: Andy Dalton. Don't play the running back with him, which
- 6:12Speaker 3: we did. See Darnald Stacks with Aaron Jones. We saw
- 6:16Speaker 3: some of these, Andy Dalton with Chubber with Chuba Hubbard's
- 6:18Speaker 3: Chubbards if you will. So there was other stacks that
- 6:21Speaker 3: use this pairing and you can do that. We talk
- 6:24Speaker 3: about it in shipdemizer over at the site all the time.
- 6:28Speaker 3: One of the cool features with the team stacks is
- 6:30Speaker 3: you can just turn off the running backs under the
- 6:32Speaker 3: stack position under team stack, and then you can turn
- 6:35Speaker 3: on who you would have that you would want your
- 6:38Speaker 3: running back to pair up with the quarterback, where if
- 6:40Speaker 3: it's like a Kyler and a James Conner and Andy
- 6:42Speaker 3: Dalton with the Chuba Hubbard would leave turned on. So
- 6:45Speaker 3: there's lots of stuff that you can do with optimizers
- 6:47Speaker 3: to make this stuff happen as well. But just makes
- 6:49Speaker 3: sense there. But if you went down to Andy Dalton
- 6:52Speaker 3: made it a little bit more conventional with these two,
- 6:54Speaker 3: you would have been able to buy up neighbors to
- 6:57Speaker 3: Lamb still would have came through. Even if Lamb didn't
- 6:59Speaker 3: have a good game, which he did, you would have
- 7:01Speaker 3: been able to move Chuba Hubbard up to a either
- 7:06Speaker 3: Kamara who didn't have a great game either, but would
- 7:09Speaker 3: have been a secondary stack with Dallas Goddard, or you
- 7:11Speaker 3: would have been able to move him to Kien Williams,
- 7:14Speaker 3: who would have been a secondary stack and done just
- 7:15Speaker 3: as well or better with Jiwan Jennings and still had
- 7:18Speaker 3: these scores. So even with the optimal, with the money
- 7:21Speaker 3: left over, moving down to Andy Dalton, with making sense
- 7:25Speaker 3: when you already have two panthers in there, you would
- 7:26Speaker 3: have been able to find something a little bit more
- 7:28Speaker 3: conventional with a main stack with Dalton Hubbard Johnson, secondary
- 7:34Speaker 3: stack with Sakuon Barkley, Dallas Goddard, and then you could
- 7:37Speaker 3: have put Kamara in here once you went to Dalton,
- 7:40Speaker 3: or you could have just done the two Philly guys
- 7:43Speaker 3: the three or sorry, the two Carolina guys and then
- 7:46Speaker 3: got Kyen Williams in here with Juwan Jennings. The rest
- 7:48Speaker 3: can all sort of stay the same. But I just
- 7:50Speaker 3: wanted to show that off a couple of different ways
- 7:52Speaker 3: that you could do it. And like I said, even
- 7:54Speaker 3: if you went to Andy Dalton and just move neighbors
- 7:56Speaker 3: up to Lamb, well you wouldn't have you got a
- 7:59Speaker 3: good score like name from Lamb. You would have still
- 8:01Speaker 3: beat the winning lineup in the twenty dollars had a
- 8:03Speaker 3: secondary stack of Derrick Henry with lamb Andy Dalton with
- 8:09Speaker 3: Hubbard and Johnson and Saquon with Dallas Goddard. You still
- 8:13Speaker 3: would have had a stack and everything in that it
- 8:15Speaker 3: made sense. So either way, long story short, stacking came back.
- 8:19Speaker 3: The stacks are back, so you can see that. Let's
- 8:21Speaker 3: go look at the twenty dollars million maker winner and
- 8:23Speaker 3: this is the one that's fully updated. Congrats to Bruce
- 8:26Speaker 3: Leroy Green thirty three. This was the lineup two hundred
- 8:30Speaker 3: and forty point one four points. So let's just see
- 8:33Speaker 3: if I can pop this up even a little bit bigger. Now,
- 8:36Speaker 3: it's not gonna do it, so we'll leave it here
- 8:37Speaker 3: at this. But his lineup was a Sam Darnold build,
- 8:41Speaker 3: Donald Jefferson and Aaron Jones, no run back on Houston
- 8:48Speaker 3: secondary stack, Kyron Williams with Jawan Jennings, used Deontay Johnson,
- 8:54Speaker 3: used Zach Charbonney, used Dallas Goddard, and then got the
- 8:57Speaker 3: Tampa Bay defense in which is pretty still have three
- 9:00Speaker 3: hundred bucks. So kind of the conventional fit that we
- 9:02Speaker 3: talked about using forty nine to five up up to
- 9:05Speaker 3: fifty k and spending it. No bringback has been a
- 9:09Speaker 3: common theme. We've talked about that since last year, so
- 9:11Speaker 3: I mean, that's still alive and well, that's working. You
- 9:13Speaker 3: don't need that. You don't need a stack up you're
- 9:15Speaker 3: running back and DST. You obviously could, but you don't
- 9:18Speaker 3: need to. So just to note it there, I mean,
- 9:21Speaker 3: trying to find two hundred bucks, I'm not exactly sure
- 9:24Speaker 3: what it would be because it would need a little
- 9:26Speaker 3: bit more. I was thinking like going to the Seattle
- 9:28Speaker 3: d with Charbonnay, if you were trying to get that
- 9:31Speaker 3: running back DST and you'd have to lose another five
- 9:33Speaker 3: hundred bucks somewhere else, or sorry, two hundred bucks in
- 9:36Speaker 3: this case, because you have three hundred left on the table.
- 9:38Speaker 3: So either way, nice lineup with the stackings back, you know,
- 9:41Speaker 3: putting in a running back with that definitely makes sense
- 9:44Speaker 3: in some cases. In this it could with Donald and
- 9:46Speaker 3: the cost all being so cheap. I think that is
- 9:48Speaker 3: one thing I'll stop on and pause, just you know,
- 9:51Speaker 3: noting that when you are doing the running back stack
- 9:54Speaker 3: in there, you kind of have to look at it
- 9:56Speaker 3: like a combination because even if Donald, you know, Donald
- 9:59Speaker 3: could have got thirty points yesterday, more of them go
- 10:02Speaker 3: to Jefferson so he gets more, Donald gets more. It
- 10:05Speaker 3: pulls for Aaron Jones, but you're still kind of manning
- 10:08Speaker 3: the end zone or the red zone right whenever you're
- 10:11Speaker 3: getting in there. If your red zone end zone coverage,
- 10:13Speaker 3: having Donald Jefferson and the main running back not a
- 10:16Speaker 3: bad combination when you're getting it up to you know,
- 10:18Speaker 3: the red zone or the end zone. So I think
- 10:20Speaker 3: that's kind of how you got to look at that,
- 10:21Speaker 3: And it makes more sense when the pricing is like
- 10:24Speaker 3: this when you're doing a HURTZ. You know, let's say
- 10:27Speaker 3: aj Brown's healthy, but even give a give it a
- 10:30Speaker 3: Devonte Smith who unfortunately got injured yesterday. But let's say
- 10:32Speaker 3: hurts and you go to Barkley and Deavonte Smith, Well,
- 10:37Speaker 3: now you need a lot more. Right now, you need
- 10:38Speaker 3: a lot more stuff to go your way because the
- 10:40Speaker 3: pricing is up there. So they're twenty five to thirty points.
- 10:43Speaker 3: It's kind of what they need to do anyway, and
- 10:45Speaker 3: that's you know, not a ceiling for them. They obviously
- 10:47Speaker 3: have more in the tank, but it is a setup
- 10:49Speaker 3: where it's like, Okay, I need a lot from just
- 10:50Speaker 3: these guys. So it makes it a little bit more
- 10:52Speaker 3: challenging at times to make it work. So when you're
- 10:54Speaker 3: seeing these stacks with Dalton and Cheuba Hubbard, that's ten
- 10:58Speaker 3: grand forty eight hundred and fifty two. Who I believe
- 11:00Speaker 3: it was for those two. So I'm not sure if
- 11:03Speaker 3: this one had it, but yeah, forty eight hundred was
- 11:05Speaker 3: for sure. Is there a Chewba Hubbard up here somewhere
- 11:07Speaker 3: that I can just get a quick look or I
- 11:09Speaker 3: guess back to this what was he? Yea fifty two hundred,
- 11:11Speaker 3: so ten grand for the two of them. That's what
- 11:13Speaker 3: I always talking about those combo packs, because if you're
- 11:15Speaker 3: looking at it that way, you can kind of set
- 11:17Speaker 3: it up there. Let's see what the chat said. Some
- 11:18Speaker 3: of this stuff playing the defense seems so obvious in retrospect.
- 11:22Speaker 3: That's what these shows are for, even though that is
- 11:23Speaker 3: results oriented. Now, we did talk about it in advance,
- 11:26Speaker 3: and it is to look back and to see, Okay,
- 11:27Speaker 3: at least I'm getting opportunities for it to make sense.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Garbage time work. I mean, this is definitely what makes
- 11:33Speaker 3: sense for Dak. It makes him scary. Look at what
- 11:35Speaker 3: he did in one quarter. That's certainly something that you
- 11:38Speaker 3: can see happen there too much Ayuk that's gonna be
- 11:41Speaker 3: a theme of today. You know, Ricky persl in there.
- 11:44Speaker 3: I'll see that. What else have we got Dallas Goddard
- 11:47Speaker 3: special total yards day. This would definitely be similar though
- 11:50Speaker 3: to the concept of nobody was on Goddard five point
- 11:54Speaker 3: nine percent. You won't find one in the top so
- 11:56Speaker 3: I won't be able to find it now. But the
- 11:58Speaker 3: ownership much higher on DeVante's where it's just assumed that
- 12:01Speaker 3: it's going to be him. But you can just move
- 12:02Speaker 3: to the tight end spot where we often just will
- 12:06Speaker 3: write it off completely. I'll show you a line up later.
- 12:08Speaker 3: We're gonna review a lineup later here by g burn
- 12:11Speaker 3: four two hundred and twenty five points with a zero
- 12:15Speaker 3: at tight end. So just to say it, like we
- 12:17Speaker 3: always talk about the onesie position with tight end and
- 12:19Speaker 3: two games lates like tonight, another spot you know kink
- 12:22Speaker 3: the money people will have it. You can just burn that.
- 12:24Speaker 3: You know, you can put a Brenton Strange who will
- 12:26Speaker 3: be popular because there's no ingram. You can put a
- 12:28Speaker 3: Gatseeki in there. It'll be spread out somewhat. But I'm
- 12:30Speaker 3: just saying it's also you can kind of burn the
- 12:32Speaker 3: position if you just think there's such a higher ceiling
- 12:35Speaker 3: somewhere else, and in that case, that was the possibility here.
- 12:37Speaker 3: But I think a lot of the stuff yesterday was
- 12:39Speaker 3: that most lineups had Kamara and Goddard as the secondary stack.
- 12:44Speaker 3: If going there, it really made sense on paper because
- 12:47Speaker 3: got it, it was a natural pivot or leverage play. It
- 12:50Speaker 3: was a leverage play, not a pivot because he's not
- 12:51Speaker 3: pivoting off DeVante Smith. You're leveraging the ownership on DeVante
- 12:55Speaker 3: Smith by moving to another guy on the team at
- 12:58Speaker 3: low to no ownership at a position you have to
- 13:01Speaker 3: put at least one anyway. And the main thing was
- 13:04Speaker 3: if you just got to Kyron Williams for one hundred
- 13:06Speaker 3: bucks more or sorry for four hunter bucks less than
- 13:10Speaker 3: Kamara at seventy five hundred, you could find different secondary
- 13:14Speaker 3: stacks with Jawan, Jennings, Ayuk, certain stuff like that. Again
- 13:17Speaker 3: not all gonna work out, but just ways that you
- 13:19Speaker 3: could find it. Andrew I'm gonna review his lineup later said,
- 13:22Speaker 3: if I'm playing quarterback, running back, wide receiver with no bringback,
- 13:25Speaker 3: I'm playing the defense too. You can do that. Obviously.
- 13:28Speaker 3: It actually worked yesterday with Minnesota, so that whole lineup
- 13:31Speaker 3: you just saw earlier. You could have thrown Minnesota into
- 13:33Speaker 3: that as well. It would definitely be a better lineup
- 13:36Speaker 3: if he had just left more money and put Minnesota there.
- 13:38Speaker 3: So could definitely do that. Didn't need it. Yeah, we
- 13:42Speaker 3: talked about the Sean. This was certainly another thing yesterday.
- 13:44Speaker 3: I had this in the notes that he didn't even
- 13:46Speaker 3: need a run back, but if there was going to
- 13:48Speaker 3: be one, the possibility of Kien Williams just being the
- 13:50Speaker 3: guy they try and just to bleed the clock do
- 13:53Speaker 3: as much as they did. I'll talk more on that
- 13:54Speaker 3: in a second. Two. Actually, I'll leave it up while
- 13:56Speaker 3: we talk about it, because this was certainly something again
- 13:58Speaker 3: results oriented, but you know, we did talk a little
- 14:00Speaker 3: bit about it in advance. But that's these shows are
- 14:02Speaker 3: about learning, looking back, what can we take away and
- 14:04Speaker 3: trying to apply to the next slate. Trying to play
- 14:07Speaker 3: roulette with Tyler Johnson, Jordan Whittington, who else, DeMarcus Robinson
- 14:14Speaker 3: to two at Well who ended up having a big
- 14:15Speaker 3: game after we made fun of it, Parkinson going back
- 14:18Speaker 3: to the Well on him. It just gets really tricky
- 14:20Speaker 3: and in retrospect, a lot of these teams, especially now,
- 14:22Speaker 3: they just want to stay in the game. Look what
- 14:25Speaker 3: the Rams did yesterday. Just let us stay in this game,
- 14:28Speaker 3: do what we can to stick around with both teams
- 14:30Speaker 3: were very banged up. Let's just try and stick around,
- 14:32Speaker 3: stick around, and then see if we can pull it
- 14:33Speaker 3: off in the end. Results oriented. But what happened. They
- 14:37Speaker 3: got the game tied, they ended up pulling it off
- 14:39Speaker 3: in the end with the field goal, and San Francisco loses.
- 14:41Speaker 3: Mind you, they had no they have no CMC, they
- 14:43Speaker 3: have no no AYUK yesterday, no debo. They're missing a
- 14:48Speaker 3: lot of pieces. But just to note it, these teams
- 14:50Speaker 3: are trying to stick around, and I want to talk
- 14:52Speaker 3: about this and apply it right now before we go
- 14:54Speaker 3: into the next stuff that we're going to look at
- 14:56Speaker 3: some of the player pools, other winners. I want to
- 14:58Speaker 3: look at one eight hundred Eddie. This line up here
- 15:00Speaker 3: eighth place, but it won the Wildcat yesterday, the three
- 15:03Speaker 3: thirty three for two hundred and fifty K. Really awesome, dude.
- 15:06Speaker 3: I've met him a few times now. Still castic guy,
- 15:08Speaker 3: so you know, a little bit on the other side,
- 15:10Speaker 3: but we still appreciate him and all good guys over there,
- 15:12Speaker 3: and Eddie's a good one. For sure. So we'll talk
- 15:14Speaker 3: about his lineup in a minute, But before I get
- 15:16Speaker 3: into that, this will be a note that I would
- 15:18Speaker 3: take away, and it's a very small sample. You guys
- 15:20Speaker 3: know I don't play lightly with this stuff, but I
- 15:22Speaker 3: want to talk about it and get your thoughts in
- 15:24Speaker 3: the check. If you have any he or if you're
- 15:25Speaker 3: watching this on playback, throw it in the comments. But
- 15:28Speaker 3: we have always felt in DFS for NFL that the
- 15:32Speaker 3: running back chalk is very much like pitcher chalk in baseball.
- 15:37Speaker 3: You kind of just know that it's a little bit safer,
- 15:39Speaker 3: it's usually better. We can get different elsewhere. The wide receiver,
- 15:42Speaker 3: tight end, and defense are such high variance positions that
- 15:46Speaker 3: we're able to mix our stacks up. And I'm not
- 15:48Speaker 3: saying you can't still do this. You absolutely can. We're
- 15:50Speaker 3: looking at it. But I do want to bring up
- 15:52Speaker 3: this thought process around. Think about yesterday's slate for a minute.
- 15:57Speaker 3: We must have had eight to ten solid running backs
- 16:00Speaker 3: on that slate that you could make a case for
- 16:02Speaker 3: because they're not even showing up in the winning lineups
- 16:05Speaker 3: in some cases. But we talked about Jonathan Taylor being
- 16:09Speaker 3: in an incredible spot oline versus d line advantage like
- 16:12Speaker 3: no other. Nobody playing him ends up getting two, and
- 16:15Speaker 3: Trey Sermon took one away from him after his sixty
- 16:17Speaker 3: yard run to get them up there. Sixty yards worth
- 16:19Speaker 3: of runs to get them up there, So that happens,
- 16:22Speaker 3: But just saying there could have been more. There was
- 16:23Speaker 3: more meat on the bone for a third touchdown. Barkley
- 16:27Speaker 3: opposite side of Alvin Kamara and in a great offense
- 16:31Speaker 3: that could do it, even though on the road, but
- 16:32Speaker 3: in a dome. Lots of opportunities the way he's been going,
- 16:35Speaker 3: there was other options. You know, we talked about Kyron
- 16:37Speaker 3: Williams who almost had no ownership, Aaron Jones at home
- 16:40Speaker 3: against the opposite side of cam Akers. So there was
- 16:44Speaker 3: just so many running backs. But yet cam Akers, Charbonney Mason,
- 16:49Speaker 3: you just have to play those three. I'm not gonna
- 16:51Speaker 3: go back on that because we know why they were
- 16:53Speaker 3: so good. Look at Mason's props, so we looked him
- 16:54Speaker 3: up yesterday. He did not come through. If he didn't
- 16:56Speaker 3: like it, you could have just faded him in DFS
- 16:58Speaker 3: and bet the under props. However you want to do it.
- 17:00Speaker 3: There was plenty of ways to get after it, but
- 17:02Speaker 3: just to note. If we know these passing touchdowns are down,
- 17:06Speaker 3: and we know these defenses are getting more optimal and
- 17:08Speaker 3: more strong, it's like, you know, is the chalk as good?
- 17:11Speaker 3: It probably still is on paper. You can still play it.
- 17:14Speaker 3: You can still get different with stacks. You can still
- 17:15Speaker 3: get different wide receivers, tight ends, defenses, et cetera. Quarterback
- 17:19Speaker 3: always gets spread out, leading to the stacks getting spread out.
- 17:21Speaker 3: But my main point would be, you gotta start considering
- 17:24Speaker 3: some of these other running backs anyway, because they have
- 17:26Speaker 3: huge ceilings. We talked yesterday about how hard it is
- 17:29Speaker 3: to find twenty five to thirty point performances on these slates. Well,
- 17:33Speaker 3: that's kind of where they're at, and that's how you
- 17:35Speaker 3: can set your lineups up where you're still gonna have
- 17:37Speaker 3: a stack in there. You're still gonna have a different defense,
- 17:39Speaker 3: whatever it might be. But I do think we need
- 17:40Speaker 3: to consider that a little bit more when looking at
- 17:43Speaker 3: these running backs and just being super safe with them,
- 17:45Speaker 3: especially in these large field tournaments. Look at this, a
- 17:47Speaker 3: three percenter, You know three running back was gonna be
- 17:50Speaker 3: popular yesterday it still came through, but with a three
- 17:54Speaker 3: percenter and a two point eight percenter, So little things
- 17:57Speaker 3: like that. And it's not like they were in bad spots.
- 17:58Speaker 3: I mean, Kyraen Williams home with no wide receivers in check.
- 18:01Speaker 3: He could have just got a bunch of work. He did.
- 18:03Speaker 3: Aaron Jones at home opposite side of acres in Minnesota.
- 18:06Speaker 3: You could pair him with the d There was plenty
- 18:08Speaker 3: of ways to play him. Crushed it at three percent,
- 18:11Speaker 3: you know, Jonathan Taylor say Kwon Barkley, no ownership to
- 18:14Speaker 3: either of those guys. Crushed it. That's the result. But
- 18:16Speaker 3: now we're talking about the process. That's what I'm saying.
- 18:19Speaker 3: So let's see what Ben says here with passing TDS down,
- 18:22Speaker 3: which is kind of what I was just hinting at,
- 18:23Speaker 3: would that make you more likely to go cheap quarterback
- 18:26Speaker 3: with the top guys Not getting clear, I'm kind of
- 18:28Speaker 3: talking about this in general. Yes, you know, first of all,
- 18:31Speaker 3: the cheaper quarter the pricing is just adjusted right now
- 18:33Speaker 3: so that you're seeing these quarter the quarterbacks can all
- 18:35Speaker 3: Like Sam Darnold showing up on the winner is not
- 18:38Speaker 3: a surprise. He had what did he have eighteen and
- 18:40Speaker 3: twenty one the first two weeks or seventeen and twenty one?
- 18:43Speaker 3: My point would be it's like he's yes, he's Sam Darnald,
- 18:47Speaker 3: he's not Jalen Hurts, but the price that's kind of
- 18:49Speaker 3: built into the price. He's still an NFL quarterback attached
- 18:53Speaker 3: to really good a really good receiver that can drag
- 18:55Speaker 3: him along and didn't even do.
- 18:57Speaker 2: So.
- 18:57Speaker 3: That's two weeks now out of three where Justin Jefferson
- 18:59Speaker 3: has started hot early and then kind of fizzled out.
- 19:02Speaker 3: And we've talked about that in the past of higher
- 19:04Speaker 3: priced wide receivers not fully coming through. But just to note,
- 19:07Speaker 3: I don't think it's as much as the passing TD's
- 19:09Speaker 3: down as much as the game that we play on
- 19:11Speaker 3: that point, where these cheaper quarterbacks they still get the
- 19:14Speaker 3: same four quarters, they still have top tier receivers, they
- 19:17Speaker 3: still get good matchups. Some cases they are against very
- 19:20Speaker 3: bad teams. To me, that's just perfect, Like that's what
- 19:23Speaker 3: you want. Anyway. We're playing a salary based game. If
- 19:25Speaker 3: I can get twenty three from him, but I only
- 19:27Speaker 3: think Hurts is gonna give me twenty five twenty seven
- 19:30Speaker 3: in that range, I'm playing Sam Darnold all day, and
- 19:33Speaker 3: how's he gonna get there. It's gonna be likely through
- 19:34Speaker 3: Jefferson Naylor, who again did good but then disappointed he
- 19:38Speaker 3: could ad a second touchdown did not come through. But
- 19:40Speaker 3: you know other ways to pair it up. But my
- 19:42Speaker 3: take is on the running back. But this is what
- 19:45Speaker 3: we're saying, so a Lin and I fan chimes it
- 19:46Speaker 3: in here. Running back chalk is still sli it is.
- 19:49Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you still got to go outside the
- 19:51Speaker 3: box somewhere. And we've seen it now for three weeks
- 19:54Speaker 3: that it's certainly been the case where these teams are
- 19:56Speaker 3: just running the ball, checking it down more all of
- 19:58Speaker 3: these factors. I just don't know why all these running
- 20:01Speaker 3: backs are coming in at one and two percent, three percent.
- 20:04Speaker 3: There should be a different delta between them in cash games,
- 20:07Speaker 3: contest selection matters. You should be building for the tournaments
- 20:10Speaker 3: that you're in. But there was lots of situations where
- 20:13Speaker 3: there was tons of good running backs yesterday. We all
- 20:15Speaker 3: knew it, yet everybody still let them come in. Myself
- 20:17Speaker 3: included in some cases at five percent and under, didn't
- 20:21Speaker 3: get enough, didn't see the secondary stacks before they happened,
- 20:24Speaker 3: didn't get them in there. Like Juwan Jennings is fourteen percent.
- 20:27Speaker 3: He was not sneaky on this slate we'll show in
- 20:30Speaker 3: the projections later when I go there, go back to
- 20:33Speaker 3: our players. These projectors are from yesterday. If you go
- 20:35Speaker 3: here nine to twenty two, our last update before for
- 20:39Speaker 3: a secondary lock, and you go here, go to wide receiver,
- 20:43Speaker 3: sort up my value and Jennings our number one value
- 20:47Speaker 3: wide receiver. So it's not a surprise. We projected him
- 20:49Speaker 3: for twelve point four to two percent ownership. He ended
- 20:52Speaker 3: up coming in the twenty dollars at fourteen. This is
- 20:54Speaker 3: all legitimate stuff. We're on top of it, we're checking
- 20:57Speaker 3: in on it. We know what's going on. I'm saying.
- 20:59Speaker 3: But then, how many people cut that in half? You
- 21:02Speaker 3: know it's more than happen. How many people cut it
- 21:03Speaker 3: down by playing Kyron Williams? Obviously not very many. Only
- 21:06Speaker 3: two point eight percent of a two hundred thousand person
- 21:09Speaker 3: field did it. So little things like that, you know
- 21:12Speaker 3: you got to keep in mind when you're going to it.
- 21:14Speaker 3: But you know, even in the Megamilli nineteen percent, you
- 21:18Speaker 3: know you can see how you got there with them.
- 21:19Speaker 3: The other thing was contest selection matters. Like I said earlier,
- 21:22Speaker 3: in the higher dollars, smaller field stuff, a lot of
- 21:25Speaker 3: people have caught onto this team now. And I've talked
- 21:27Speaker 3: about it for years, but combo packs people joke about
- 21:30Speaker 3: it all the time. Think I'm talking about Popeye's chicken,
- 21:32Speaker 3: going and buying a six pack six piece of chicken. No,
- 21:34Speaker 3: the combo pack in DFS is putting two players together
- 21:38Speaker 3: or more. You could do a trio pack whatever you
- 21:40Speaker 3: want to call it, a three piece, but the setup
- 21:42Speaker 3: is simple. Jennings is forty one and Ayuk is what
- 21:48Speaker 3: was he yesterday? Sixty two? Again, you're paying like ten
- 21:51Speaker 3: grand for this combo. It could have easily yesterday been
- 21:55Speaker 3: Ayuk having two touchdowns and Jennings having won and still
- 21:58Speaker 3: sort of needing that. The way it sets up, it
- 22:00Speaker 3: just depends because you can just spread the points out
- 22:02Speaker 3: on what these lineups have, Like Jefferson at twenty with
- 22:06Speaker 3: forty nine here, all that salary you pick up at
- 22:08Speaker 3: a sixty two hundred dollar guy with what he end with?
- 22:10Speaker 3: Someone tell me in the chat, what did what did
- 22:15Speaker 3: Ayuke end up with? I don't think I'll find anybody
- 22:17Speaker 3: up here with them. Oh there he is right there.
- 22:19Speaker 3: Nine point eight. Here's a prime example. Petty Theft, one
- 22:21Speaker 3: of the best DFS players out there, especially when it
- 22:23Speaker 3: comes to NBA, but been doing it in NFL too,
- 22:25Speaker 3: just bringing it back together. It's here's an example. He's
- 22:28Speaker 3: got the combo pack. He doesn't even have anything related
- 22:32Speaker 3: to this game. He's got Kyron Williams. But I'm saying,
- 22:34Speaker 3: as far as brock perty goes nothing, he doesn't need him.
- 22:37Speaker 3: He's just playing two guys and he's gonna take the
- 22:40Speaker 3: points that he can get. If it spread out, it
- 22:41Speaker 3: didn't matter. So these combo packs, especially in higher dollars,
- 22:44Speaker 3: smaller field, have become more and more popular because people
- 22:48Speaker 3: are just saying somebody's getting them. They're missing three dudes, CMC,
- 22:51Speaker 3: Deebo and Ayuk. Why can't I just play these two
- 22:55Speaker 3: and just average it out? Who can? Like, no one
- 22:58Speaker 3: would say shit about is Jennings Day. If it was
- 23:01Speaker 3: you know what is it's thirty and thirty, they would
- 23:04Speaker 3: have said that's nuts, you know what I mean? The
- 23:05Speaker 3: points still came the same way. You still didn't get.
- 23:08Speaker 3: These points get spread the same way. Whether you got
- 23:11Speaker 3: pretty here or not, those points were scored. These yards
- 23:14Speaker 3: and touchdowns could have went to Ayuk thirty thirty and
- 23:17Speaker 3: it wouldn't be It still would have been huge for
- 23:19Speaker 3: Jennings if you'd be talking about it. But I'm just saying,
- 23:21Speaker 3: it's a combo pack. You gotta think about this when
- 23:23Speaker 3: you had Dalton with Deontay Johnson. It's another one. Dalton
- 23:27Speaker 3: with Chuba Hubbard. Cuba Hubbard with Johnson is a combo pack.
- 23:31Speaker 3: There's other ways you can use it that you can
- 23:33Speaker 3: get these guys in there where you don't necessarily need
- 23:35Speaker 3: to have the quarterback with it. So keep that in
- 23:37Speaker 3: mind when you're moving forward. That's certainly something I wanted
- 23:39Speaker 3: to comment on. I don't know about this Caleb still.
- 23:43Speaker 3: I think the thing about Caleb for me and everyone
- 23:45Speaker 3: probably hate on this, I don't care what they say,
- 23:46Speaker 3: but like he as bad as he looks at times,
- 23:50Speaker 3: I'll still see something where I'm like, Okay, that looks
- 23:52Speaker 3: kind of good. Bo Nicks is just what he is.
- 23:54Speaker 3: He's tricky on the ground, he can run, he had
- 23:57Speaker 3: some good passes. All that stuff is there. But I
- 23:59Speaker 3: would say still be a little bit more bullish on Caleb.
- 24:01Speaker 3: I think he was looking for more guys yesterday. DJ
- 24:04Speaker 3: Moore Rome got into the mix yesterday. Still has Comet
- 24:07Speaker 3: there who not many got to yesterday as well himself
- 24:09Speaker 3: he had a pretty good day. So just little things
- 24:12Speaker 3: like that are the things that I would look at.
- 24:14Speaker 3: They throw the ball a little bit more, Yeah, good
- 24:17Speaker 3: call by Andrew here. They definitely throw it a little
- 24:19Speaker 3: bit more over there. So yeah, I just you know,
- 24:21Speaker 3: versus having the other guys on Denver Sutton and them,
- 24:24Speaker 3: you know, du Renalds, those guys. I just think, you know, Chicago,
- 24:27Speaker 3: I would be a little bit more bullish on if
- 24:29Speaker 3: picking one Bear's coaching could be the whole thing holding
- 24:33Speaker 3: him back. He just needs time too, right, But you
- 24:35Speaker 3: need to give people time. He just got here, so
- 24:37Speaker 3: certainly think that let's go to this next one though.
- 24:39Speaker 3: So my buddy one eight hundred Eddie, really good dude,
- 24:41Speaker 3: Like I said, just can't find a nicer guy, and
- 24:44Speaker 3: he goes out yesterday. This is the lineup. It's in
- 24:46Speaker 3: eighth place in this Millie, but he did have it
- 24:49Speaker 3: in the three thirty three and won the tour in
- 24:51Speaker 3: fifty k. Unfortunately, on labs today the three thirty three
- 24:54Speaker 3: is not updated. It's missing some positions, but I verified it.
- 24:57Speaker 3: You can go and check it. This is most certainly
- 24:59Speaker 3: the lineup that won the three thirty three yesterday. So
- 25:01Speaker 3: just to keep going here. Deshaun Watson, he went to
- 25:06Speaker 3: a Murray Cooper. He ran it back with neighbors. Look
- 25:09Speaker 3: at all these green check marks. So for those that
- 25:10Speaker 3: need talked off the ledge, remember you can still stack
- 25:13Speaker 3: in DFS. It's still a thing. I know everybody was
- 25:15Speaker 3: trying to say that you couldn't do that. That's the thing.
- 25:17Speaker 3: Shout out to my guy Naid's. He's got a travel
- 25:19Speaker 3: day but still here supporting the show. We appreciate him.
- 25:21Speaker 3: He'll be back. Just a quick programming note. I'm traveling.
- 25:25Speaker 3: Naids is still traveling next week and I'm traveling back
- 25:28Speaker 3: from Montreal. I'll be at the President's Cup starting tomorrow
- 25:30Speaker 3: evening I get to Montreal. So I will not be
- 25:33Speaker 3: here for some shows upcoming, and this show will not
- 25:36Speaker 3: exist next week. So there will be no takedown breakdown
- 25:39Speaker 3: for week four, but it'll be back week five and beyond.
- 25:42Speaker 3: You know pretty much everything. It's just the way it
- 25:44Speaker 3: worked out this week this next week. So just so
- 25:46Speaker 3: you guys know that, we'll get as much into today
- 25:48Speaker 3: as we can. Gonna review some lineups. If you have questions,
- 25:50Speaker 3: keep throwing them into the chat, throw them into the
- 25:52Speaker 3: comments too. If you're watching this on playback, definitely throw
- 25:55Speaker 3: a comment in there. Any questions you have, I'll go
- 25:57Speaker 3: back and read them and answer them for you as
- 25:59Speaker 3: I can. But just wanted to note this. So back
- 26:00Speaker 3: to Eddie's lineup, Deshaun Watson, Amarrai Cooper ran it back
- 26:06Speaker 3: an Alvin Kamara with Dallas Godder secondary stack, Jowan Jennings
- 26:11Speaker 3: with Kyle Williams. This is completely conventional. It was only
- 26:14Speaker 3: ten points off the top with a rough day from
- 26:17Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara and a rough day from that Tennessee defense
- 26:20Speaker 3: on the opposite side. So little things happen. It goes
- 26:23Speaker 3: this way sometimes, but it got the job done in
- 26:25Speaker 3: the three thirty three for two hundred and fifty k.
- 26:28Speaker 3: So just to see it here, Yeah, Dan, how much
- 26:31Speaker 3: was Danny Stones yesterday? Anybody have them up here? Caleb
- 26:35Speaker 3: Williams by the way, fifty six hundred making his way up.
- 26:39Speaker 3: Definitely seeing these cheaper guys. But even there, like Ray
- 26:41Speaker 3: of Hope, top tournament player for a long time, the
- 26:44Speaker 3: best you know, tournament players still come back around for
- 26:47Speaker 3: NFL no matter what. We still see the Chipotle attic.
- 26:50Speaker 3: We still see Chipotle addic. Papagay's we see Ray of Hope,
- 26:53Speaker 3: Petty Theft is in the mix, like all these guys
- 26:54Speaker 3: that are back. You know a lot of underrated players
- 26:57Speaker 3: that people don't know that are incredible at DFS. Royal
- 26:59Speaker 3: Pain another one that I see here sticks out to me.
- 27:02Speaker 3: Just a couple others that I saw as I was
- 27:03Speaker 3: going through it, But I don't find any any Danny
- 27:08Speaker 3: Stones's lineups here, so I'm trying to see if I
- 27:10Speaker 3: could get one, just to see. Who knows what his
- 27:12Speaker 3: price was? Anybody. Benefit of doing this live is we're
- 27:16Speaker 3: supposed to have a little help in the chat. Let
- 27:18Speaker 3: us know. BP Colonna really good dude. Just met him
- 27:21Speaker 3: in Chicago. He won a live final seat yesterday. I saw.
- 27:25Speaker 3: Congrats to him. Hopefully you can get there and meet him.
- 27:27Speaker 3: But yeah, I don't see after another one comes back
- 27:30Speaker 3: out of the woods during during NFL. So yeah, I
- 27:32Speaker 3: can't find it. But either way, it's going back to
- 27:34Speaker 3: Eddie's lineup. It had the team stack, had the game
- 27:37Speaker 3: stack with that run back. It had the running back
- 27:41Speaker 3: from maxiwung Is that's the same as all his low
- 27:42Speaker 3: owned players two four percent Semmers. You need leverage in
- 27:46Speaker 3: these tournaments, right you gotta have. Yeah, that's another good point.
- 27:48Speaker 3: Ben So many different quarterbacks in the top twenty, right,
- 27:51Speaker 3: you saw a bunch of them. But I love this
- 27:53Speaker 3: built not because it won. It was just something that
- 27:55Speaker 3: we saw pop up. If Cooper it just tell yourself
- 27:58Speaker 3: the story and build this by and whatever you might be.
- 28:01Speaker 3: It's no matter what you're in. This even works for
- 28:02Speaker 3: single entry. I don't care. You still need leverage. You
- 28:04Speaker 3: gotta get to the top. There's these big tournaments. But look,
- 28:07Speaker 3: what do we say, if Amari Cooper is gonna have
- 28:11Speaker 3: a big day, Deshaun Watson's going with him. He didn't
- 28:14Speaker 3: even go off. He actually also had three chances down
- 28:17Speaker 3: the stretch. It really kind of sucked. He had three
- 28:19Speaker 3: more chances down the stretch to get him the ball.
- 28:21Speaker 3: He kept getting it to Amurray, but then he thumbed.
- 28:23Speaker 3: There was a fumble, a turnover, and just a rough
- 28:26Speaker 3: drive like a bad drive to end the game. But
- 28:30Speaker 3: it tell yourself the story. Okay, Malik Neighbor's got eighteen
- 28:32Speaker 3: targets the week before prime example, these two plays right here?
- 28:37Speaker 3: Three plays? Realistically, can I get any more in here? Now? Three?
- 28:40Speaker 3: I'll give him three. Here's the one you have very
- 28:42Speaker 3: fundamentally sound and it's obviously a very top player, so
- 28:45Speaker 3: it makes perfect sense. This is how Nad's and I
- 28:47Speaker 3: typically build on this shaw. I'll show you when I
- 28:49Speaker 3: build one later that got to about one hundred and
- 28:51Speaker 3: ninety ISHK and not wanting to cheat and give you
- 28:53Speaker 3: the exact winner after the fact, but we'll talk about
- 28:56Speaker 3: that later too. Is when I do some of these reviews.
- 28:58Speaker 3: Alvin Kamara, is he getting three or four touchdowns? Again? No,
- 29:01Speaker 3: I literally said this on the show. That's not what
- 29:03Speaker 3: you're playing him for. He did not move in price.
- 29:05Speaker 3: He went from seven K to seventy five hundred. Yeah,
- 29:08Speaker 3: there's could have had Daniel Jones for sure. Also could
- 29:12Speaker 3: have had just I'm going all over the place with
- 29:13Speaker 3: quick note, could have had Minnesota defense and leveled up.
- 29:16Speaker 3: What if Minnesota d end up getting to thirteen, goes
- 29:22Speaker 3: up ten more two thirty nine, It would have been
- 29:24Speaker 3: a bad beat in the Milli maker, but it would
- 29:26Speaker 3: have been a four hundred and fifty K day plus
- 29:29Speaker 3: for him instead of that. And then if he had
- 29:31Speaker 3: it went to Jones. Yeah, sure, but again all that's hindsight,
- 29:34Speaker 3: you can look at it, but definitely a note for sure,
- 29:36Speaker 3: for second place, probably the optimizer just spit it out
- 29:39Speaker 3: this way. But if you're not playing acres and you're
- 29:41Speaker 3: not trying to make any leverage plays off acres like
- 29:44Speaker 3: Dell or Collins or any of those guys work, then yes,
- 29:48Speaker 3: it would have made sense to just play the Minnesota
- 29:49Speaker 3: defense here. Leave one hundred bucks. You still would have
- 29:52Speaker 3: been super unique. You still would have had it, and
- 29:54Speaker 3: you would have got all the way up there. We
- 29:56Speaker 3: got you, HBK. We're gonna show your ten k lineup.
- 29:58Speaker 3: I appreciate you checking in live. We got you. I
- 30:00Speaker 3: got your lineup up for later, so you'll see it
- 30:02Speaker 3: here shortly. But back to what I was saying, going
- 30:05Speaker 3: back to the well on this, it's not really chasing.
- 30:08Speaker 3: I know people say it is and then look at
- 30:09Speaker 3: the result and say, ah, those idiots, when you have
- 30:11Speaker 3: no taysom Hill to worry about, you've already got other
- 30:14Speaker 3: opportunities here. To me, I'm fine with going back to
- 30:16Speaker 3: this and just accepting the result, especially if it gets
- 30:19Speaker 3: you to a secondary stack and you can cut some
- 30:21Speaker 3: of that ownership down by going here. We talked about
- 30:25Speaker 3: chewing into that ownership. You can do that with the
- 30:27Speaker 3: Dallas Goddard and making up this way again. Forty five
- 30:29Speaker 3: points across both these guys. Not exactly what you'd be
- 30:33Speaker 3: looking for, but pretty damn good. Still pretty solid. Back
- 30:37Speaker 3: to the well on Charbonnet. He ended up being good
- 30:40Speaker 3: for his price. But the guy had what ninety five
- 30:42Speaker 3: percent of the carries the week before fourteen carries five
- 30:46Speaker 3: targets or something like. Again, you're not you're not really chasing.
- 30:49Speaker 3: It's still a good spot. You're at home against a
- 30:51Speaker 3: banged up Miami. Really got no problem with this. That
- 30:54Speaker 3: one makes perfect sense. And neighbors, are we expecting eighteen targets? Again? No,
- 30:59Speaker 3: but it doesn't matter. He's still only sixty four hundred.
- 31:01Speaker 3: What if he gets twelve targets? Still pretty damn good game?
- 31:04Speaker 3: And can I have an even better game if he
- 31:05Speaker 3: does the crazy things that he does? So all this
- 31:08Speaker 3: very sound, extremely nice lineup. Overall, this is how you
- 31:11Speaker 3: should be looking to build, not the result, the process.
- 31:15Speaker 3: If I'm playing this guy, it could drag this guy
- 31:17Speaker 3: along if they're doing stuff through the air. Maybe he
- 31:20Speaker 3: doesn't get eighteen targets, but he should get some. I
- 31:23Speaker 3: feel very good about this chop running back if he's
- 31:25Speaker 3: having a good game. Maybe it's Dallas Goddard and I
- 31:28Speaker 3: also can't really afford I'm kind of going off with
- 31:30Speaker 3: Devonte Smith at sixty nine hundred, So I'm gonna go.
- 31:33Speaker 3: I'm going to these guys. I'm gonna be fine with
- 31:35Speaker 3: it there. If I can't get to Ayuk or Mason,
- 31:38Speaker 3: yeah he'll come in with fourteen percent, but he's still
- 31:41Speaker 3: not Ayuk ownership and he's still not Mason ownership. I'm
- 31:44Speaker 3: already three seven four two five. I'm fine with that.
- 31:48Speaker 3: And even if I want to chop this in down
- 31:51Speaker 3: a little bit, chop it down a little bit, run
- 31:53Speaker 3: Kyron Williams here as the secondary stack. With that, I mean,
- 31:56Speaker 3: this is all very sound. And like I said, if
- 31:58Speaker 3: you weren't playing Acres and you're building this, maybe you
- 32:01Speaker 3: land on Minnesota. I'm sure this came from the optimizer
- 32:03Speaker 3: with this one hundred and fifty bills, but just to
- 32:05Speaker 3: note it, that's kind of the setup of this. So yeah, Joe,
- 32:08Speaker 3: you had a good week there too. I don't know
- 32:09Speaker 3: if I'll get to yours, but I think you tagged
- 32:12Speaker 3: one on there to show I only have so many
- 32:14Speaker 3: that I can pull up, and some key pieces I
- 32:16Speaker 3: wanted to point out to the ones that I did
- 32:18Speaker 3: pull up, So either way, quick breakdown on those two lineups,
- 32:21Speaker 3: just one of you guys to see I didn't know
- 32:23Speaker 3: that labs was not working today. For all the other stuff,
- 32:25Speaker 3: we really don't know that till we log on, so
- 32:27Speaker 3: try to have as much prep for you as possible.
- 32:29Speaker 3: But you'll see two twenty and two thirty not even close.
- 32:34Speaker 3: There was still plenty more points to find out there.
- 32:36Speaker 3: The big takeaway was the running backs. Tons of chalk
- 32:39Speaker 3: running backs not needed. And I'm not saying that's gonna
- 32:42Speaker 3: be a constant. It's a small sample. I'm saying to me,
- 32:45Speaker 3: what makes sense from a small sample is what I
- 32:48Speaker 3: think is going to be a bigger sample that we're
- 32:50Speaker 3: gonna see. You're trying to see things before they happen.
- 32:52Speaker 3: The NFL and the passing touchdowns are down. I suspect
- 32:56Speaker 3: that's going to be continuing. I don't think these defenses
- 32:59Speaker 3: are gonna go from what they're doing, and I don't
- 33:02Speaker 3: think these teams are gonna go away from what they're doing.
- 33:04Speaker 3: The best way to stay in the game right now
- 33:06Speaker 3: is to run the ball more, check it down, more,
- 33:08Speaker 3: run the clock. More keep the score down, especially when
- 33:11Speaker 3: you have a worse team against a better team, and
- 33:13Speaker 3: give yourself an opportunity to be there at the end,
- 33:17Speaker 3: a la the Rams yesterday who just tried to stay
- 33:19Speaker 3: in the game with their own injury issues and then
- 33:21Speaker 3: go from there. So let's see if I can find
- 33:24Speaker 3: anything else here. The chap just ask Dereck Henry was
- 33:27Speaker 3: nine point one percent, so it was asked what he
- 33:30Speaker 3: was again under ten percent? That's fine. Three percent here
- 33:35Speaker 3: to look at this lineup again, Petty tests going back
- 33:37Speaker 3: to it. But man one, two, three, four, five probably
- 33:40Speaker 3: thought he was getting six to seven plays under ten
- 33:43Speaker 3: percent in this lineup and still pretty close ten on
- 33:47Speaker 3: the dot under just by a hair. But I mean
- 33:49Speaker 3: this lineup another good one. Dak Ferguson, Henry gets it rolling.
- 33:55Speaker 3: These guys gotta come from behind or they get started,
- 33:57Speaker 3: and then he just falls in the box. You got
- 33:59Speaker 3: Indie low owned, you got that secondary stack with Jennings
- 34:04Speaker 3: and William again another one. So this is for the
- 34:07Speaker 3: whole MILLI right, This is the whole MILLI right here.
- 34:09Speaker 3: I know it's in an optimizer, it's results oriented, but
- 34:12Speaker 3: you know, just play Minnesota defense with no Acres, no Collins,
- 34:17Speaker 3: no Dell, no anybody, and you got ten more points,
- 34:20Speaker 3: which is two forty four zero point four to six.
- 34:23Speaker 3: You ship the Millie. So again, hindsight results or I did.
- 34:25Speaker 3: That's not how any of these top players do business.
- 34:27Speaker 3: That's not how I do business. But we want to
- 34:29Speaker 3: look at it a little bit. We're not cheating. We're
- 34:31Speaker 3: just looking at what could have been and how you
- 34:33Speaker 3: could have thought about it. There is something to be
- 34:35Speaker 3: said for that. Like there's only so much you can
- 34:37Speaker 3: do in all things in life, whether it's relationships, business, entrepreneurship, running,
- 34:42Speaker 3: like all the stuff that goes to business, running a company.
- 34:44Speaker 3: All that a lot more nowadays is innovation than it
- 34:48Speaker 3: is invention. And that's kind of what we're looking at
- 34:50Speaker 3: here is how can we do things differently for the future.
- 34:52Speaker 3: How can we build? How are some what are some takeaways? Well,
- 34:55Speaker 3: if you're not playing any Houston guy, and you know
- 34:57Speaker 3: Acres is the chalk of the chalk in this thing,
- 34:59Speaker 3: I don't we'll be able to find an Acre's lineup.
- 35:01Speaker 3: Maybe let me try here real quick. I'll just keep.
- 35:05Speaker 2: Let me see.
- 35:08Speaker 3: I mean, he was so owned, he's got to be
- 35:09Speaker 3: somewhere right, get lucky one time. Here it's like roulette,
- 35:14Speaker 3: like the check and just guess how many lineups would
- 35:16Speaker 3: I have to click to find an Acre's lineup? That
- 35:19Speaker 3: was so Mason, just to note fifty percent, ten points
- 35:23Speaker 3: the chocoal bust. He was excellent play on paper. I'm
- 35:25Speaker 3: not going away from that. Apologies to Andrew. Just saw
- 35:29Speaker 3: that now, so it doesn't really matter. Nothing crazy that
- 35:32Speaker 3: I was showing that you're missing. Just we talked through it,
- 35:34Speaker 3: you'll you'll be able to see it and visualize in
- 35:36Speaker 3: your mind and apply it. But I'm just trying to
- 35:39Speaker 3: see her because I'm looking at a couple different things.
- 35:40Speaker 3: Didn't switch back for me, But I can't find it,
- 35:43Speaker 3: Like I does anybody know what Acres ownership was in
- 35:47Speaker 3: the main yesterday? That's that's really what I want to know.
- 35:49Speaker 3: So blasted ahead a couple more, a chan another one
- 35:56Speaker 3: twenty five percent. Obviously didn't help that Skyler got injured
- 36:00Speaker 3: Skylar Thompson, but just to note it there, Jordan Mason,
- 36:04Speaker 3: this is all the key. I can't find it no
- 36:06Speaker 3: matter what I do. So Akers, there we go. Twenty
- 36:08Speaker 3: one point nine percent. So if you weren't playing that
- 36:10Speaker 3: to play the defense against it. I was just fine
- 36:13Speaker 3: with it. Let's go back, let's go to these reviews
- 36:15Speaker 3: now again. You guys have more questions. Adam's in here
- 36:17Speaker 3: right now says I didn't take advantage of some swaps
- 36:19Speaker 3: costs me. But onto this week, well we'll start with
- 36:22Speaker 3: one of his lineup. So a Teal Sin member over
- 36:25Speaker 3: there at Shipping Nation. So love to see the logo
- 36:27Speaker 3: up top, but this is a pretty common build. I
- 36:29Speaker 3: think a lot of us were onto at least yesterday.
- 36:32Speaker 3: Apologies to a line I didn't have it up there,
- 36:34Speaker 3: but anything I talked about you can apply the theory
- 36:36Speaker 3: of It's not like you had to see the screen
- 36:38Speaker 3: for it. It was just to give you a concept of
- 36:40Speaker 3: what people were doing, and so either way, hopefully you
- 36:42Speaker 3: can take something away from that, give you ideas. Some
- 36:45Speaker 3: people do just listen to this on a podcast as well,
- 36:47Speaker 3: so you can do that as well. But yeah, Brock
- 36:49Speaker 3: Purty Jennings ayuk, I see no runback Barkley a chan
- 36:57Speaker 3: to JSN. I definitely liked that Philly to New Orleans.
- 37:02Speaker 3: There's the secondary stack with Barkley Olave and I like
- 37:05Speaker 3: that one quite a bit, and that's why I brought
- 37:06Speaker 3: this up because if you were flipping the build, it's
- 37:09Speaker 3: not like Olave was coming in lower owned then that
- 37:12Speaker 3: much Lore owned, at least than Alvin Kamara. But if
- 37:15Speaker 3: you're flipping off Kamara to him, it just makes perfect
- 37:18Speaker 3: sense to have one of Shaheed or Olave over here
- 37:22Speaker 3: because you're already cutting into it so much with a
- 37:24Speaker 3: seven percent Barkley in this tournament they're in. So I
- 37:26Speaker 3: think this was in the big guy. I'm pretty sure.
- 37:28Speaker 3: Look at the payout eighth one hundred and seventy five
- 37:30Speaker 3: first twelve fifty. That should be back this week, by
- 37:33Speaker 3: the way, with twenty five hundred members in it. So
- 37:37Speaker 3: just sorry, I just want to mute it for a
- 37:40Speaker 3: second while I was coughing, but just want to tell
- 37:42Speaker 3: you that that'll be back with twenty five hundred this week.
- 37:44Speaker 3: You guys did a great job filling it last week.
- 37:46Speaker 3: It'll be the same this week when we bring it out.
- 37:49Speaker 3: Ferguson was just a plug and play. You know, I
- 37:52Speaker 3: don't know if you had one hundred bucks maybe at
- 37:54Speaker 3: O you can let me know. Was this a max salary.
- 37:56Speaker 3: I'm not going to calculate it all in my head,
- 37:57Speaker 3: but really good score really down build and you know,
- 38:02Speaker 3: triple stack, no run back, two secondary stacks, Barkley, olave Chen, JSN,
- 38:08Speaker 3: whoever fits in Ferguson. But I was gonna say, if
- 38:10Speaker 3: you had the hundred bucks, I wouldn't have hated just
- 38:13Speaker 3: limiting yourself here and just going to Goddard as well
- 38:16Speaker 3: and going Barkley Goddard with no Davante and then just
- 38:20Speaker 3: again only needing one game to go your way because
- 38:22Speaker 3: he can rack up the catches. You need to fill
- 38:24Speaker 3: the spot anyway. Barkley can be the other guy. He said,
- 38:27Speaker 3: doesn't he said, don't recall on salary, but just to
- 38:28Speaker 3: note it. I know it's Resultsorry, It's not that. It's
- 38:31Speaker 3: more just saying, if you wanted to cut it down more,
- 38:33Speaker 3: the way you built was how we always build. You
- 38:35Speaker 3: built it around. Let's build it like a parlay where
- 38:38Speaker 3: I need less things to go my way. You correlated
- 38:40Speaker 3: three guys two with purty, secondary stack, secondary stack. There's
- 38:45Speaker 3: basically three games you need to go your way, A
- 38:48Speaker 3: one off and Ferguson. And the thing about the again
- 38:50Speaker 3: going back to this Minnesota defense thing, when you have
- 38:52Speaker 3: no acres, you have none of these Houston guys that
- 38:54Speaker 3: were trying to leverage Acres with it. It's not even
- 38:57Speaker 3: really in the parlay. It's almost like if you guys
- 39:01Speaker 3: ever play on Underdog and they give you the point
- 39:04Speaker 3: five over where you just it's a freebie, a free square.
- 39:07Speaker 3: The reason I say it is it a free square
- 39:09Speaker 3: from a results oriented position going into the slate. No.
- 39:13Speaker 3: But the way I view it and the way I
- 39:15Speaker 3: think about it is I'm just plugging that in. That's
- 39:18Speaker 3: why when I looked at those lineups earlier, I know
- 39:20Speaker 3: they're made in an optimizer because Petty Theft and one
- 39:22Speaker 3: hundred eighty are playing mass entry, so I get it.
- 39:25Speaker 3: I'm just saying, when you're looking over your stuff and
- 39:27Speaker 3: you have the ability, if you're playing you know, twenty
- 39:29Speaker 3: or less lineups, ten or less lineups, single entry, three max,
- 39:32Speaker 3: you definitely have the ability. Is it a free square
- 39:35Speaker 3: for the result I'm about to receive. Absolutely not. There's
- 39:38Speaker 3: no freebies. But if I already have the lineup that
- 39:41Speaker 3: makes perfect sense on paper, and I'm not playing Acres
- 39:44Speaker 3: and I'm not playing anybody else, it's just a plug
- 39:46Speaker 3: and play at that point. To me, I'm just plugging
- 39:49Speaker 3: that in because it fits perfectly. I see the position here.
- 39:53Speaker 3: I understand it, and I just know that it completes
- 39:55Speaker 3: the build. I'm already not on that side. So it's
- 39:58Speaker 3: not that you get a free square where it's gonna
- 40:00Speaker 3: be automatic, like the underdog point five rushing yards for
- 40:03Speaker 3: Saint kuon Barkley. Obviously he's gonna score that. It's that
- 40:07Speaker 3: in your roster construction of free squares, none of this
- 40:10Speaker 3: shit is free. You still need these three to come through.
- 40:13Speaker 3: You see it again, you need this score to come through.
- 40:16Speaker 3: But if you've already built out your lineup and most
- 40:18Speaker 3: people are landing on defense last, just plug it in
- 40:21Speaker 3: and move on. Whatever happens happens. But it makes perfect sense.
- 40:25Speaker 3: That's what I'm trying to get across you guys. That's
- 40:27Speaker 3: the point that I would like to make. All right,
- 40:30Speaker 3: let's go back to Andrew who warned me that I
- 40:32Speaker 3: was showing the wrong screen, making sure I'm showing the
- 40:34Speaker 3: right screen now again, not looking at it just because
- 40:37Speaker 3: one hundred and ninety three points while looking at it,
- 40:39Speaker 3: because off the content the way it was built. Some
- 40:41Speaker 3: of this stuff another lineup was zero out of dultage
- 40:45Speaker 3: there with you know, two percent, one zero points whatever.
- 40:48Speaker 3: But it's fine because if you're just burying one position,
- 40:51Speaker 3: I think it's fine to bury it at tight end
- 40:53Speaker 3: and at a very cheap price tag of twenty nine hundred.
- 40:56Speaker 3: It's not I talked about this on the show yesterday.
- 40:58Speaker 3: It's a prime example. Goddard ended up being great, but
- 41:01Speaker 3: outside of Goddard there wasn't too much kommet at point
- 41:04Speaker 3: one percent. Nobody played him. So yes, he made sense.
- 41:06Speaker 3: If you got to your Caleb Williams line ups with
- 41:09Speaker 3: Keenan Allen out, he made sense all of these factors
- 41:12Speaker 3: that made him useful. One second, Sorry guys, just seeing
- 41:16Speaker 3: hi about this update real quick? All right, we're good.
- 41:19Speaker 3: Just get an update on the Listener League. So it
- 41:21Speaker 3: should be out soon, twenty five hundred. That'll be in
- 41:23Speaker 3: the ship it Nation discord first. But let's go back
- 41:26Speaker 3: to it. So Purty Jennings, nobody else, no runback secondary
- 41:33Speaker 3: stack of Godwin Dalcic. I like that one, talked about
- 41:35Speaker 3: it on the show. Definitely think that's solid a chan
- 41:39Speaker 3: Taylor Barkley. So what he did is he went with
- 41:42Speaker 3: three top tier running backs here, So flip the build.
- 41:45Speaker 3: This is what you could definitely do here. So flip
- 41:47Speaker 3: the build went to the three top tier running backs
- 41:50Speaker 3: that we talked about. Barkley Taylor specifically in Really Good Spots.
- 41:53Speaker 3: Dot a Chan was solid as well. Did you have
- 41:55Speaker 3: money left? Can you talk about that? Andrew? He says,
- 41:58Speaker 3: could have done the San fran tight end, but don't
- 42:00Speaker 3: like the quad stack. I'm gonna talk about this in
- 42:03Speaker 3: a second. Actual, I'll leave that one up. Did you
- 42:04Speaker 3: have any money left? Is the question? Robinson was the runback.
- 42:07Speaker 3: That's true as well. Sorry, yes I did see that
- 42:09Speaker 3: now so one, two, three, But now you're talking about
- 42:13Speaker 3: you didn't like the quad stack. Yeah, I would have
- 42:16Speaker 3: been actually fine with that. You could have went to
- 42:18Speaker 3: Sobert here or er whatever his name is, Sobert sober
- 42:21Speaker 3: sauv e er t played him here and been just
- 42:24Speaker 3: fine and use that money elsewhere if you wanted to
- 42:26Speaker 3: two hundred bucks left as well. The other thing could
- 42:29Speaker 3: have been if you want to overstack it and you
- 42:31Speaker 3: want to play Robinson with Kyron Williams. But overall on paper, again,
- 42:34Speaker 3: just a sound build. The only reason I ask, though,
- 42:37Speaker 3: is because I think you could have also went like
- 42:41Speaker 3: Sobert here Kyroen Williams here and maybe been able to
- 42:47Speaker 3: get I don't know if you could have got DJ
- 42:49Speaker 3: more across from him or Rome or something like that,
- 42:53Speaker 3: or Shaheed off of Barkley if you're not playing Kamara,
- 42:56Speaker 3: I mean, I think you definitely could have got a
- 42:58Speaker 3: little further this one, but again not to discourage it.
- 43:00Speaker 3: It's built sound. I love that you flipped the build
- 43:03Speaker 3: and if you weren't going to Mason or Ayuk, it's
- 43:07Speaker 3: for Jennings, but it's also to get you to a
- 43:10Speaker 3: running back trio that nobody has. Nobody's playing seven percent
- 43:13Speaker 3: two percent, and yes they're playing a Chan, but not
- 43:16Speaker 3: many people are playing these three top tier running backs
- 43:18Speaker 3: in one lineup, so solid build. I liked that about
- 43:22Speaker 3: this one, so I wanted to bring yours up. Was
- 43:23Speaker 3: that you flipped the build from where everybody else was
- 43:26Speaker 3: pretty much capped out at seventy five hundred with Kamara,
- 43:30Speaker 3: and then had different versions of this. They might have
- 43:32Speaker 3: had a Chan, but they had other two. They had
- 43:34Speaker 3: at least one other chockey running back in there for
- 43:36Speaker 3: the most part, and using acres, you went all the
- 43:39Speaker 3: way up and were able to still find stuff that
- 43:41Speaker 3: made sense. You really got unlucky on Robinson. I mean,
- 43:45Speaker 3: he had a couple opportunities there for sure, Dalchich was
- 43:48Speaker 3: just plug and play. I mean, you just weren't getting
- 43:49Speaker 3: there with that one and a chan obviously the injury
- 43:52Speaker 3: and stuff, but I don't think this one was ever Again,
- 43:54Speaker 3: anything can happen. I just don't think it was getting
- 43:56Speaker 3: to the winner circle or the shipper square as we say,
- 44:00Speaker 3: but I either. But it could have. I mean the
- 44:02Speaker 3: way it was built, it definitely could have. I'm just
- 44:04Speaker 3: saying it didn't. But I like this secondary stack here
- 44:07Speaker 3: with Dulchinch and Godwin hoping that they just get a
- 44:09Speaker 3: bunch of targets he can find the end zone, waste
- 44:12Speaker 3: the tight end spot. I mean really like the build.
- 44:14Speaker 3: Very sound build, great score overall. Brought this one up earlier.
- 44:19Speaker 3: This was really the reason I brought this up. G
- 44:21Speaker 3: Burn four. This was a two hundred and twenty five
- 44:24Speaker 3: point nine to six with the zero. We just saw
- 44:26Speaker 3: two hundred and forty take down the million maker. So again, opportunity.
- 44:30Speaker 3: But this is just a show, and obviously Lamb really
- 44:32Speaker 3: hurt his feelings, but this is just to show how
- 44:35Speaker 3: perfect you need to actually be. Obviously, contest selection is important,
- 44:39Speaker 3: which I got more on in a second here, and
- 44:41Speaker 3: The show is gonna go as long as it was
- 44:43Speaker 3: supposed today, So that's fine. I'm good talking about I
- 44:45Speaker 3: feel like we're wrong some good stuff here. If you
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- 45:19Speaker 3: All right, Prescott Lamb Henry So a little trio spot there,
- 45:24Speaker 3: the secondary stack that came to be needed at really
- 45:27Speaker 3: low ownership with Kyron in there, but Juwan Jennings, Kyron Williams,
- 45:31Speaker 3: Minnesota d if not playing any Houston guys. The theme
- 45:33Speaker 3: of what we already talked about there Jonathan Taylor, just
- 45:36Speaker 3: nobody playing him for some reason at Home with one
- 45:38Speaker 3: of the best O lines secondary stack with Roan, So
- 45:41Speaker 3: again just getting these alternative secondary stacks that on paper
- 45:46Speaker 3: makes so much sense. Taylor, nobody's playing I think literally
- 45:50Speaker 3: the best O line versus D line matchup, which is
- 45:52Speaker 3: early in the season. But Indy's always sort of had
- 45:54Speaker 3: that and they've been using him. I mean, he's been fine.
- 45:57Speaker 3: He can definitely be one of the guys that puts
- 45:58Speaker 3: up twenty five to thirty. Talked about this on the
- 46:00Speaker 3: show yesterday. Couldn't hammer at Home enough. Our guy Scarface
- 46:05Speaker 3: had it in the value report over on the site.
- 46:08Speaker 3: I'm gonna see if it's still up and I can
- 46:09Speaker 3: pull it up over here. Let's see value play of
- 46:16Speaker 3: the day was Rome. So if you took that and
- 46:19Speaker 3: put it together now he was on, Ayuki was on
- 46:21Speaker 3: there's always goods and bads, but you're taking little things
- 46:24Speaker 3: and putting them together. And if you put that together
- 46:27Speaker 3: with the Jonathan Taylor talk, that one made a lot
- 46:30Speaker 3: of sense. So Taylor, Rome, I like that one. Just
- 46:32Speaker 3: needed Lamb to come through, really and it could have
- 46:35Speaker 3: been a much much better day. What's crazy is I
- 46:37Speaker 3: think I don't have the exact money in front of me,
- 46:40Speaker 3: but I think just showing how perfect you need to
- 46:42Speaker 3: be and how close you can get. If he had
- 46:44Speaker 3: a went to just it's like the optimal though it'd be,
- 46:48Speaker 3: then it would be dak naked. Yeah, just doesn't really work.
- 46:50Speaker 3: But yeah, it's a tough one to get. I was
- 46:52Speaker 3: gonna say, like, you probably could have got to O
- 46:54Speaker 3: Lave and either Olave and Shaheed and Goddard and eight
- 47:00Speaker 3: up for the naked stack, but not many people are
- 47:02Speaker 3: gonna play a naked Maybe you could have got the
- 47:04Speaker 3: Ferguson here and ran him to a New Orleans guy
- 47:06Speaker 3: and been enough to win the Millie or something. But
- 47:09Speaker 3: congrats to g burn four. Definitely something there. Let's go
- 47:13Speaker 3: back to a couple of these quick questions and I'm
- 47:14Speaker 3: gonna do a couple more quick at the end. Hbk's here,
- 47:19Speaker 3: So I'm gonna hit HBK as the last one. I'm
- 47:21Speaker 3: gonna delete another one that I was gonna do because
- 47:22Speaker 3: I want to talk about two concepts. When you talked
- 47:26Speaker 3: about this, Andrew, I thought you were talking about a
- 47:28Speaker 3: quad stack, And I'm not gonna get to it on
- 47:30Speaker 3: the show because Labs is broken down. But if you
- 47:32Speaker 3: go to the a lot of the qualifiers yesterday, we
- 47:35Speaker 3: talked about this a ton of times strategy wise, the
- 47:38Speaker 3: higher dollars, smaller field. I thought you were talking about
- 47:41Speaker 3: going like Purdy, Ayuk, Mason, and Jennings and running four
- 47:47Speaker 3: guys from the same side like yesterday. You could definitely
- 47:49Speaker 3: run Donald Naylor, Jefferson Jones. Definitely could do that, and
- 47:54Speaker 3: nobody's gonna have that. And if that's that's team just
- 47:57Speaker 3: scores enough points or again, it's all who it doesn't
- 48:00Speaker 3: matter who scores them. Like yesterday, if you played Purdy, Jennings,
- 48:06Speaker 3: Sober and Mason, I guess it's not the end of
- 48:09Speaker 3: the world. It's not great because this two of them
- 48:12Speaker 3: didn't come through, including Ayuk, but you would have still
- 48:14Speaker 3: got Purdy's points. You would have got the fifty out
- 48:17Speaker 3: of Jennings, you would have got the ten out of Ayuk,
- 48:20Speaker 3: nine point eight and whatever. Sober, I don't know if
- 48:21Speaker 3: he got anything or not. My point would be you
- 48:23Speaker 3: still would have made a lot of points up across
- 48:25Speaker 3: four guys and in a smaller field when everyone's just
- 48:27Speaker 3: playing the best guy, the best guy, the best guy,
- 48:29Speaker 3: the best guy, all the chalk on paper. They need
- 48:31Speaker 3: a lot to go their way, and then they don't
- 48:33Speaker 3: really have much separation built in. So quad stack one
- 48:36Speaker 3: sided like running, you know, a four to one or
- 48:39Speaker 3: a four zero. Definitely think of that. Onslaught can be done.
- 48:42Speaker 3: It's just better used in a higher dollars, smaller field
- 48:45Speaker 3: where you will truly get separation. And then Zach asked
- 48:49Speaker 3: a good question that I want to talk to was
- 48:51Speaker 3: what's your bill process like? For by position? Do you
- 48:54Speaker 3: start with quarterback wide receiver? I've talked about this a lot. Actually,
- 48:58Speaker 3: you know, this is how most people now actually go
- 49:00Speaker 3: to it. But you can also just plug pieces in
- 49:03Speaker 3: and then see where you land, like you could build
- 49:05Speaker 3: a couple, especially if you're gonna do secondary stacks anyway,
- 49:08Speaker 3: why wouldn't you start with some secondary stacks. And I'm
- 49:12Speaker 3: gonna get to that the second. Anyway, let me show
- 49:13Speaker 3: you my a bit of my process here in a second,
- 49:15Speaker 3: I'm gonna get to that. Let's do the last lineup.
- 49:17Speaker 3: Our guy HBK was in the chat HBK eight one
- 49:20Speaker 3: three seven eight ship A nation member appreciate HBK being here.
- 49:23Speaker 3: This talks the contest selection, and especially because the last lineup.
- 49:27Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna build and show you guys a bit
- 49:29Speaker 3: of my process at the end is you know, one
- 49:32Speaker 3: to ninety something, not enough to win a million maker,
- 49:34Speaker 3: but whatever, He's in ten xing your money on a
- 49:36Speaker 3: thousand bucks go. Now many people are putting a thousand
- 49:39Speaker 3: bucks down and winning ten grand, So ten grand profit.
- 49:42Speaker 3: Nice to see, just shy, you know, love to see
- 49:44Speaker 3: that on this lineup, So hurts Montgomery, Pollard, Davonte Smith
- 49:50Speaker 3: with Hertz Olave on the run back, triple stack, with
- 49:54Speaker 3: Godter Jennings in there, I Yuke in there, there's that
- 49:57Speaker 3: combo pack and then Minnesota d The theme if you're
- 50:00Speaker 3: not playing Houston free square, not true what you get,
- 50:03Speaker 3: but again just putting it in there feels like a
- 50:05Speaker 3: free square if you're if you're focusing on roster construction
- 50:09Speaker 3: and not just the best plays. Obviously they were in
- 50:11Speaker 3: a good spot anyway, but building this out. He's got
- 50:13Speaker 3: the triple stack with the runback, a piece of that
- 50:16Speaker 3: Detroit game where you thought they were going to score
- 50:19Speaker 3: points against Arizona that was a huge total. May as
- 50:21Speaker 3: well if you're fading the passing game, and in other
- 50:23Speaker 3: plays within it get to one of the running backs.
- 50:25Speaker 3: In this case, he got to Montgomery Pollard. I don't
- 50:29Speaker 3: know if he had money left, but could have been
- 50:30Speaker 3: Pollared and Titans D instead opting to go with Pollard
- 50:33Speaker 3: and not needing. You don't need to force that stack.
- 50:36Speaker 3: So that just proves it again, even if he had
- 50:38Speaker 3: the hundred bucks or not. And then Jennings as the
- 50:40Speaker 3: one off again no Mason, but with Ayuk you're just
- 50:44Speaker 3: pairing those two up one hundred and eighty three points.
- 50:46Speaker 3: What contest was this in HBK If you don't mind
- 50:49Speaker 3: letting us know, I think the build is sound, but
- 50:51Speaker 3: I think that was the other thing I was going
- 50:53Speaker 3: to go BIODTL shout out to you. I did not
- 50:55Speaker 3: get to show your lineup. I not only scored one
- 50:57Speaker 3: hundred and fifty, but you play in a higher dollar,
- 51:00Speaker 3: smaller field typically, And what I wanted to point out
- 51:02Speaker 3: to you, and I'll just say it on here and
- 51:03Speaker 3: again not showing it on the screen doesn't really matter.
- 51:05Speaker 3: It's just the point I'm making. Knowing what you're building
- 51:08Speaker 3: for is the key, and that's the component here as well.
- 51:10Speaker 3: What would would HPK have liked this? To score two
- 51:14Speaker 3: hundred and fifty points. Sure, I'm sure they built it
- 51:16Speaker 3: hoping that there was a lot more points scored from
- 51:17Speaker 3: guys like Devonte Smith. Not getting injured hurts not scoring
- 51:20Speaker 3: points forever. But look what he's in. Two hundred dollars
- 51:23Speaker 3: single entry, one hundred dollars single entry, fifty dollars single
- 51:27Speaker 3: entry in single entries. When people can't play one hundred
- 51:30Speaker 3: and fifty lineups, this type of score does very well.
- 51:33Speaker 3: So congrat s HPK love to see that. Let's go
- 51:38Speaker 3: back to ship Deemizer. I'm going to finish out with
- 51:39Speaker 3: my process because it was asked about earlier from Zach.
- 51:45Speaker 3: Excuse me, what's your bill process like? By position? So
- 51:48Speaker 3: I just want to show this for a second and
- 51:50Speaker 3: even just go back to our projections. I'm gonna show
- 51:53Speaker 3: you this, but looking at the values here starting with
- 51:58Speaker 3: running back, and this is this line up scores. I
- 52:01Speaker 3: have it up on my screen, so I don't off
- 52:02Speaker 3: to hold you guys hostage to this this time. One
- 52:04Speaker 3: and ninety one point two four points twenty three from Darnold.
- 52:08Speaker 3: I'm just gonna round down for these, a round up
- 52:10Speaker 3: sixteen for Kamara, twenty six for Sharboney, eleven for Tank Dell,
- 52:15Speaker 3: twenty for Jefferson, forty nine fifty whatever you wanna call
- 52:19Speaker 3: it for Jennings, thirty for Godter, and uh ten point
- 52:23Speaker 3: eight eleven ish for Mason, five for Arizona d So
- 52:27Speaker 3: just to show you this lineup, I want to make sure. No,
- 52:29Speaker 3: I'm not sick. It's just a talking too much. Man.
- 52:32Speaker 3: You guys know me. I like to talk, so lose
- 52:34Speaker 3: my voice a little bit. So we're trying to keep
- 52:36Speaker 3: it together for Montreal, but we gotta do this. Love
- 52:38Speaker 3: doing the show with everybody. But just back to Zach's question,
- 52:41Speaker 3: even if you were going chalk, you're at running back
- 52:43Speaker 3: and just saying, look, the props were insane on Mason.
- 52:45Speaker 3: I love the spot. Alvin Kamara, No, Taysom Hill, you're
- 52:48Speaker 3: not getting me away from that. And Sharboney coming off
- 52:51Speaker 3: the week with like ninety one and ninety five percent
- 52:54Speaker 3: of you know the share, with fourteen carries and five
- 52:57Speaker 3: targets or whatever it was. Let me just start plugging
- 52:59Speaker 3: those guys. Now. Let me go to wide receiver. Since
- 53:03Speaker 3: I didn't play Acres, I'm gonna play Dell. I'm gonna
- 53:06Speaker 3: try and get leverage there. Juwan Jennings is the best
- 53:09Speaker 3: value play on the slate. I'm very comfortable playing him
- 53:12Speaker 3: with Mason in a combo pack. If it's him or Mason,
- 53:15Speaker 3: whatever I get from the two of them, I'm good
- 53:17Speaker 3: with that. Well, now you go back and fill in
- 53:20Speaker 3: some of the other spots. Okay, if I'm playing Alvin Kamara,
- 53:22Speaker 3: the secondary stack is Goddard. Now I've got money to spend. Okay,
- 53:28Speaker 3: GINO and DK is a possibility. Right, that's something that
- 53:31Speaker 3: I could have looked at. Let me just see here,
- 53:33Speaker 3: if I do this for two seconds, I've got it
- 53:35Speaker 3: all here, so I can help you guys with it
- 53:36Speaker 3: today and try and pull this up. Let me just
- 53:39Speaker 3: see if I can refresh this quick. All right, things
- 53:44Speaker 3: are gonna break on me, but I don't know why
- 53:48Speaker 3: this won't Let me work just one second, Yeah, it's
- 53:52Speaker 3: all let me change it either way. My point would
- 53:53Speaker 3: be so Gino, let me do this. GINO and DK
- 53:59Speaker 3: is what is It's about thirty seven points? Thirty seven
- 54:04Speaker 3: points and eleven to nine salary. Jefferson and Donald whoops,
- 54:10Speaker 3: Jefferson and Donald is fourteen on, so it's a lot more.
- 54:17Speaker 3: He would have bumped your d it wouldn't really a fit,
- 54:19Speaker 3: so it doesn't matter. For the sake of this, I'm
- 54:21Speaker 3: leaving what I had up on it anyway. But my
- 54:22Speaker 3: point was going to be when I go back and
- 54:24Speaker 3: fit it in, I've got money to spend. So if
- 54:27Speaker 3: I just go to Donald knowing that Jefferson is going
- 54:30Speaker 3: to be right there, that I can scroll down. Even
- 54:32Speaker 3: though he's not popping as much, he's popping quite high
- 54:35Speaker 3: for our expensive wide receiver. So if you flip this
- 54:38Speaker 3: and go lamb, he's a little bit more and maybe
- 54:41Speaker 3: you get to Dak, but then you can't afford the
- 54:43Speaker 3: d So my point would really just be you can
- 54:45Speaker 3: just find these stacks and I'll show you how I
- 54:47Speaker 3: found it in a second. But then, if you're not
- 54:49Speaker 3: playing that Arizona Detroit game, this is almost another combination
- 54:53Speaker 3: like how I talked about it earlier with just landing
- 54:55Speaker 3: on Minnesota. If I'm not on the highest total game,
- 54:58Speaker 3: then I'm just hoping that the defense shows up. Don't
- 55:00Speaker 3: have worked for us the week before in a spot
- 55:02Speaker 3: like this against the Rams, why not just try them
- 55:04Speaker 3: against Detroit? Did it work out? No? Five points? But again,
- 55:07Speaker 3: it just fills a position. Man like the rest of
- 55:09Speaker 3: my lineup. I love. It's Donald to Jefferson, it's run
- 55:14Speaker 3: back with Tank Dell. It's the combo pack I've talked
- 55:16Speaker 3: about all day and I'm fine with. It's a secondary
- 55:19Speaker 3: stack with Kamara and Dallas Goddard in another big game
- 55:22Speaker 3: that I'm focused on. And then I just rounded out
- 55:25Speaker 3: with the Cardinals d So let's go look at where
- 55:27Speaker 3: I could have got this from. You go to the site,
- 55:29Speaker 3: You go to the stack rankings on the site. Where's
- 55:33Speaker 3: he at? Sam Donald and Jefferson is here? But the
- 55:37Speaker 3: thing is he said, oh, you start with Derek Carr.
- 55:39Speaker 3: But if I'm not on Derek Carr, guess what I
- 55:40Speaker 3: have in my lineup. I've got Alvin Kamara. So if
- 55:42Speaker 3: I'm not playing this, why not play the running game?
- 55:45Speaker 3: If I'm off the passing and this is sort of
- 55:46Speaker 3: my value from yesterday. So he can't make this stuff up. Oh,
- 55:50Speaker 3: there's Tank Dell, who's in that lineup, So let me
- 55:52Speaker 3: throw him in there. And if I'm playing Tank Dell, Donald, Jefferson,
- 55:57Speaker 3: Tank Dell Camara, Oh where's Goddard, He's right there, He's
- 56:00Speaker 3: in the secondary stack. That makes sense. Okay, if I'm
- 56:04Speaker 3: not playing Brock, Purdy and Ayuk. Let me get Jennings
- 56:07Speaker 3: in there, and if I'm not playing Purty in Auk,
- 56:09Speaker 3: let me get the running game in there with Mason,
- 56:12Speaker 3: So that now covers off Donald Jefferson, The runback covers
- 56:15Speaker 3: off Mason, Jennings, Kamara and Goddard. It leaves me Sharboney
- 56:20Speaker 3: and Arizona going back here, third stack in her here. Oh,
- 56:24Speaker 3: I guess I'm not playing that passing game. Who can
- 56:27Speaker 3: I put in this lineup? Well, I might as well
- 56:28Speaker 3: put Sharbone in there. So everything I've built is from
- 56:32Speaker 3: Donald and up and Donald Jefferson is two, Goddard is three,
- 56:39Speaker 3: Tank Dell is four if I'm not playing this, Kamara
- 56:43Speaker 3: is five. If I'm not playing this, Sharboney is six.
- 56:48Speaker 3: And then who is the other one in there? Seven?
- 56:50Speaker 3: And eight? Is Goddard, Jennings Mason? Oh, if I'm not
- 56:53Speaker 3: playing Mason, Urdy is is Mason? And then Goddard fits in,
- 56:57Speaker 3: Jefferson and Donald fit in. So the last piece is
- 57:00Speaker 3: is I land on the defense? Oh, Detroit is middle
- 57:04Speaker 3: of the pack and way down the board. All right,
- 57:06Speaker 3: I'll just play Arizona d against them. So essentially, so
- 57:09Speaker 3: you guys can see that you can find a way
- 57:11Speaker 3: to get to these types of lineups. And I did
- 57:14Speaker 3: not start with Darnold and Jefferson. So back to Zach's point,
- 57:17Speaker 3: everyone always assumes we'll we start there, maybe a leak
- 57:20Speaker 3: in your game, use the other stuff, find out what
- 57:23Speaker 3: you like and want to put in, and then see
- 57:24Speaker 3: what works if you notice sack and just to help
- 57:27Speaker 3: you know, just answer your question. I looked at Gino
- 57:30Speaker 3: and DK metcalf first, even with Sharbonay in there, just
- 57:34Speaker 3: trying to see. We talked yesterday how you could stack
- 57:35Speaker 3: them altogether, but it left me like six grand left
- 57:38Speaker 3: almost fifty five hundred for defense. Then you're sort of
- 57:41Speaker 3: changing your whole rest of your lineup. So that's just
- 57:43Speaker 3: a handbuild one to three max quick way of showing you, guys,
- 57:47Speaker 3: how we use this. We're trying to do this every week.
- 57:49Speaker 3: But the stuff was on point yesterday, like a lot
- 57:51Speaker 3: of this stuff was in there. A Lave had a
- 57:52Speaker 3: big day, Tank Dell wasn't needed. So I did that
- 57:55Speaker 3: just fit that lineup, just to note it. Sharbonay had
- 57:57Speaker 3: a good day, Jennings huge day, Goddard huge day, bo Nix.
- 58:02Speaker 3: No one really want to play this guys, they had
- 58:04Speaker 3: an okay day, you could have used him. Just other
- 58:06Speaker 3: stuff in here that you could have used, So a
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