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Still Ripping It Up: JAY DUNNE On Why 28 Days Will Never Slow Down · HEAVY Music Interviews

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  Speaker 1: G'day, I'm Dave from 28 Days, and my band is
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  Speaker 1: called 28 Days. That's ironically.
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  Speaker 2: You're a smarter man than me already, brother. How are
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  Speaker 2: you doing today?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, man, I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I'm at work. I'm just hoping for a bit of rain.
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  Speaker 3: I wouldn't mind going home a bit early.
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  Speaker 2: You look like you already are home, mate.
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  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no. I'm in one of the donners.
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  Speaker 2: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Love the donners.
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  Speaker 3: And so it's just hoping a bit of rain sort
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  Speaker 3: of happens in the background there so I can get
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  Speaker 3: in my car, which is over there somewhere.
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  Speaker 1: Forward to it.
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  Speaker 2: Let's see what the metal gods can do, my friend.
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  Speaker 2: But in the meantime, we are here to chat about
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  Speaker 2: the fact that 28 Days have expanded your 30th anniversary
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  Speaker 2: tour to include regional areas for a run of shows
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  Speaker 2: starting in Torquay this Friday, October 2nd, then hitting Frankston, Cairns, Townsville,
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  Speaker 2: Airlie Beach, Duncraig, Perth, Dunsborough before finishing in 4th on
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  Speaker 2: October 23rd, bro. So part one tour of the capital
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  Speaker 2: cities and that's sold out. So I'm guessing the regional
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  Speaker 2: areas better bring their A-game.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah well you know we're just happy to have
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  Speaker 3: a mayor like um we always planned it on going
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  Speaker 3: regional but we thought it's probably best not to book
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  Speaker 3: everything like and it's too for pubs too they don't
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  Speaker 3: they don't want to commit to something if they don't
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  Speaker 3: think it's going to work in this.
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  Speaker 1: Current climate economically and all that.
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  Speaker 3: Sort of shit so um we just thought we'd see
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  Speaker 3: how they went and we're always going to go across
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  Speaker 3: to perth but um yeah so the The success of
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  Speaker 3: those shows helped get a few more dates in, which
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  Speaker 3: is really cool.
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  Speaker 1: We can't wait to get to... We can't wait to
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  Speaker 1: do all of them, really.
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  Speaker 3: It was a bit of a tease only doing four
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  Speaker 3: shows for the national tour, just doing the major cities.
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  Speaker 1: It's not.
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  Speaker 3: We've always been a touring band and we started off
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  Speaker 3: in the back of a Tarrago, driving to every little
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  Speaker 3: town and just playing.
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  Speaker 1: And so... And we've... You have... Look, it's fun in
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  Speaker 1: the big cities.
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  Speaker 3: Obviously, you know, they don't have to turn on a party,
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  Speaker 3: but some of those country towns, man, like we just
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  Speaker 3: have nights we'll never forget.
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  Speaker 1: And, yeah, just good people. So we're looking forward to
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  Speaker 1: getting out there and doing it again.
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  Speaker 2: Sweet. And you've also got a massive homecoming gig on
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  Speaker 2: this leg at the Pelly Bar in Frankston, October 3rd, mate.
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  Speaker 2: Like Frankston is where the 28 Day Story originally began
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  Speaker 2: in October 96, man. So have you got that one
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  Speaker 2: already marked down as something extra special?
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 2: I forgot.
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  Speaker 3: I'll have a beer. But, no, look, it's, yeah, it'd
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  Speaker 3: be good to go back to Frankston. I still live
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  Speaker 3: down that way, so it's, you know, it's just, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's just up the road. That's my favourite part about
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  Speaker 3: it is just being able to drive home and not
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  Speaker 3: having to stay in a hotel room.
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  Speaker 1: But, yeah, look, heaps of old heads there.
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  Speaker 3: There's a lot of people coming that I haven't seen
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  Speaker 3: in years and that's going to be good fun.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah. Yeah, Frankston, I've got a love-mate relationship with
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  Speaker 1: the place. I grew up there. Yeah, true. You know,
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  Speaker 1: it has its– I think it's cooler now.
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  Speaker 3: Like a lot of the old people, a lot of
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  Speaker 3: the people from my generation who grew up there and
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  Speaker 3: stuff and had to listen to the.
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  Speaker 1: Place get bagged out their whole lives.
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  Speaker 3: And there's a lot of good people and a lot
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  Speaker 3: of good talent that comes from down there. And a
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  Speaker 3: few of the boys are kind of like investing that
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  Speaker 3: back into Frankston, like say Frankston Tattoo Shop or Singing
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  Speaker 3: Bird Studios.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. just to think of two off the top of
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  Speaker 1: my head.
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  Speaker 3: But, like, a lot of the boys have, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they're proud of what Frankston.
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  Speaker 1: Gave to them. So they're giving a bit back. So, yeah. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it'll be good.
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  Speaker 3: So, like I said, yeah, Frankston, the shows are always fun.
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  Speaker 3: I'll tell my story about getting stabbed just up the–
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  Speaker 3: which I did. I got stabbed in the throat at Frankston.
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  Speaker 1: For real? Yeah, when I.
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  Speaker 3: Was about, I don't know, I want to say 1990
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  Speaker 3: or something like that. So I'll tell that story again
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  Speaker 3: and we'll be in the revolving dance floor. There's a
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  Speaker 3: revolving dance floor there that doesn't revolve anymore and apparently
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  Speaker 3: it makes a lot of noise when it does.
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  Speaker 1: So, look, it's, you know, I grew up there. Part
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  Speaker 1: of the fun.
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  Speaker 3: We actually used to go there when we were 15
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  Speaker 3: or 16 on a Saturday afternoon and go to the
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  Speaker 3: cordial club there.
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  Speaker 1: So it's like I grew up there. Yeah. It'll be fun.
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  Speaker 2: Nice. We touched on this a little bit before. We
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  Speaker 2: spoke about you playing at Gilligan's on New Year's Eve, mate.
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  Speaker 2: But Part 2 has hit some iconic stops like Magnums
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  Speaker 2: and Ellie Beach. You've got the Edgefields opening in Cairns.
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  Speaker 2: You would have played up that area a bit in
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  Speaker 2: the upstole down here, mate. So have you got any
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  Speaker 2: fond or any wild memories of touring up those regional
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  Speaker 2: areas from back then?
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  Speaker 1: No, they're just blurry nights, man, because it's so hot.
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  Speaker 3: You just drink so much and And the evening just
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  Speaker 3: keeps going because it's still stinking hot at 2 in
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  Speaker 3: the morning.
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  Speaker 1: So, yeah, always just big forgotten nights. I do. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I've got a couple. I remember I think we played
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  Speaker 1: a gig and then we.
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  Speaker 3: Got ripped out from backstage to go and judge the
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  Speaker 3: wet T-shirt competition. Yep, that's Cairns. They don't do that
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  Speaker 3: much in Melbourne. When we play in Melbourne, that rarely happens.
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  Speaker 3: So it was good to just get a bit of
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  Speaker 3: Cairns love and a bit of local flavour.
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  Speaker 2: No is that it and into a promo there's a
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  Speaker 2: cool little line there that it tells fans to dust
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  Speaker 2: off their camo shorts and find their wallet chains like
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  Speaker 2: when you look out from the stage in the modern
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  Speaker 2: era mate like are you seeing the original fans who
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  Speaker 2: are now introducing their kids to your music or is
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  Speaker 2: it a brand new generation.
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  Speaker 3: No no a lot of people but you do get
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  Speaker 3: to look we i you know i I'm usually that
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  Speaker 3: nervous before the gig. We go out and do a
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  Speaker 3: signing and say g'day to people. I've noticed a lot
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  Speaker 3: of people come up with their kids, which is really
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  Speaker 3: cool for us. Like, you know, you want your kids.
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  Speaker 3: I've been really careful with my son not trying to
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  Speaker 3: influence what he listens to because I know the harder
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  Speaker 3: I push him to do stuff, he'll naturally rebel against it,
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  Speaker 3: like when he's finding his own way. So I've really,
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  Speaker 3: you know, he hears what music I listen to, but
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  Speaker 3: I've never been a, you know, all your music's rubbish
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  Speaker 3: and you need to listen to stuff from back in
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  Speaker 3: the day. But I find that he's staying to listen
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  Speaker 3: to stuff from back in the day too. And I think,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, I think with how crazy the world
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  Speaker 3: is now and how much you can't trust things, I
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  Speaker 3: think everyone's looking back to a time when things were
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  Speaker 3: a little simpler. And I think the kids probably, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they like the romanticised the 90s and the noughties and stuff,
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  Speaker 3: which is good because they're interested in, music from that era,
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  Speaker 3: which is our, you know, era. So, yeah, but I'll
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  Speaker 3: have a note that we definitely haven't broken to a
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  Speaker 3: new generation. We're not like the Foo Fighters or anything
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  Speaker 3: where we just have, or Rolling Stones, we just have generational.
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  Speaker 1: No, we have a few, but, like, there's a lot,
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  Speaker 1: there's a sea of this. I see a lot of
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  Speaker 1: this out there, a lot of snowy beards. Yes, well.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing wrong with that.
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  Speaker 2: Nothing wrong with a bit of grey, mate. Nothing wrong
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  Speaker 2: at all. And that's the name the tour suggests. We're
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  Speaker 2: all 30 years old now, bro. So do you have
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  Speaker 2: to remind yourself of that every time you step on
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  Speaker 2: stage or does your body do that for you?
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  Speaker 3: No, it's not.
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  Speaker 1: Look, I'm right on stage.
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  Speaker 3: I've been doing it for a while, so I do
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  Speaker 3: just go into autopilot. Well, my body does. It just
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  Speaker 3: knows what to do. But the next day, I really
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  Speaker 3: never really felt it. until these last few shows i
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  Speaker 3: don't know if it's because we don't tour like back-to-back
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  Speaker 3: shows as much as a lot at all anymore like
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  Speaker 3: we're doing it at the moment but just even doing
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  Speaker 3: those two lots of shows back-to-back last time absolutely fucking
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  Speaker 3: cooked me for like two weeks the show doesn't i
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  Speaker 3: love it like i love getting up there i love
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  Speaker 3: seeing him 28 days i just i've love it always
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  Speaker 3: have but so that that comes to me easily but
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  Speaker 3: they're getting up and doing it again and like everything
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  Speaker 3: leading up to that whether to the first note plays
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  Speaker 3: is hard work but this shows that's what i do
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  Speaker 3: i love it.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah cool man 30 years is incredible milestone for an
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  Speaker 4: australian punk band mate so when you and simon first
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  Speaker 4: started writing music together in the mid 90s did you
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  Speaker 4: ever imagine you'd still be packing our venues and ripping
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  Speaker 4: through rip it up three decades later No.
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  Speaker 3: No, we were just like picking off a bucket list.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we were just using our youth properly and
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  Speaker 3: it was like join a band. My wife literally asked me,
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  Speaker 3: she goes, like, what do you want to do? What
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  Speaker 3: would you do if you could do anything?
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  Speaker 1: And I said, oh, I'd draw.
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  Speaker 3: And she goes, why don't you draw then? And I go,
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  Speaker 3: because I'm garbage at drawing. LAUGHTER professional level. And so
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  Speaker 3: she's like, all right, then we'll can that.
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  Speaker 1: What else? And I'm like, I've always wanted to be
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  Speaker 1: in a band.
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  Speaker 3: I just, I've always, ever since I was a little kid,
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  Speaker 3: I had a couple of little bands and I had
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  Speaker 3: a couple of things that I did when I was,
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  Speaker 3: even like grade five, I think me and a couple
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  Speaker 3: of the guys came, went and tried to do an
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  Speaker 3: In Excess cover in his garage and I.
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  Speaker 1: Was the drummer.
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  Speaker 3: So, and my nan played music and I was around
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  Speaker 3: like live music a little bit as a kid and
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  Speaker 3: I fucking always loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Like I always just went, that's, That's the story.
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  Speaker 3: Apparently there was a, my uncle had a, my uncle
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  Speaker 3: used to have birthday parties, used to hire musicians to
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  Speaker 3: go and play and get a hall and stuff and
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  Speaker 3: make a big.
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  Speaker 1: Brouhaha out of it.
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  Speaker 3: And he had, there was, I walked in and there
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  Speaker 3: was a band playing the Donald Duck song from the
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  Speaker 3: Mickey Mouse sort of pre clubhouse. But anyway, like the
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  Speaker 3: old Mickey Mouse song. And I just heard them and
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  Speaker 3: they said, does anyone want to come up and sing?
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  Speaker 3: And I just walked in the door and I sprinted
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  Speaker 3: from the back of the hall.
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  Speaker 2: Nice.
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  Speaker 3: I straight up on the stage and just stood next
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  Speaker 3: to him. I was ready to go. And the adrenaline,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I was scared.
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  Speaker 1: That's so cool. But just, like, just so keen. I
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  Speaker 1: just wanted to do it.
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  Speaker 2: All these songs that you've got, man, like you say,
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  Speaker 2: you were a lot younger when you wrote them. And
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  Speaker 2: I guess you would have been angry. Your whole point
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  Speaker 2: of view on the world would have been different. Like,
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  Speaker 2: as we get older, we mellow a lot. Like, I
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  Speaker 2: know I have, man. But does Plan of Life still
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  Speaker 2: bring out those same feelings? Or is it sort of
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  Speaker 2: more of a going through the motions.
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  Speaker 1: In a way? Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, like it's cathartic to sing and I get
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  Speaker 3: to scream a lot in 28 Days and I get
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  Speaker 3: to like really dig in. I'm not like– my lyrics
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  Speaker 3: over the years, I'm not, you know, it's my least
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  Speaker 3: favourite part of the song. I like putting music together,
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  Speaker 3: putting the rhythmic points in and putting in like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: like the basic vibe of the song and the lyrics.
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  Speaker 1: Bit, like it's just– Like back in the day, especially.
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  Speaker 3: When we had deadlines and we were like, we had to,
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  Speaker 3: you know, people waiting on me. So, and I just,
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  Speaker 3: I also don't think, I don't believe that I'm like
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  Speaker 3: someone that, especially back then, that I had much to
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  Speaker 3: say that was important because I don't, I'm not a,
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  Speaker 3: I wasn't a deep thinker.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I hadn't really experienced enough
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  Speaker 1: of life to really have much.
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  Speaker 3: To say that was, so which is why, which is
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  Speaker 3: why I stuck to just party stuff because that.
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  Speaker 1: That was really more me, more honest.
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  Speaker 3: But, um, But we've been playing– we've got a show
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  Speaker 3: coming up with Self Reliance, which is Simon and I's
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  Speaker 3: first band that we did just before 28 Days.
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  Speaker 1: And the lyrics I've written then.
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  Speaker 3: She's just trotting around on her high horse, just telling
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  Speaker 3: everyone what was wrong with them and a lot of
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  Speaker 3: finger pointing and stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So, like, I'm glad I didn't go too.
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  Speaker 3: Far down that path of 28 Days.
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  Speaker 1: But, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But as far as, like, stuff that– As far as
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  Speaker 3: stuff that I'm singing about while I'm singing about it,
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  Speaker 3: like I remember what the song's about and if there's
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  Speaker 3: a bit of the song, especially songs like Stealing Chairs
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  Speaker 3: about Scotty, there's never been a– I've never sang that
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  Speaker 3: song without like putting in a thousand percent like a fucking,
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  Speaker 3: you know, like I'm still upset about it. It still
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  Speaker 3: sucks that he's gone and, you know, and I still
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  Speaker 3: want to fucking scream a cunt out about it.
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  Speaker 1: So it's really cool that I actually– Jeez, mate, fucking
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  Speaker 1: got me.
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  Speaker 3: It's really cool that I do get to fucking get
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  Speaker 3: that out of me every time we, you know, good
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  Speaker 3: for me, you know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's cool, man. That's good to know.
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  Speaker 1: Funny songs I mean. Yeah, cool, Ed.
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  Speaker 2: You recently released Upside Down on vinyl for the very
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  Speaker 2: first time too to celebrate the anniversary, mate. What was
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  Speaker 2: it like revisiting that specific record? It went straight to
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  Speaker 2: number one back in 2000. Looking back at what it
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  Speaker 2: achieved and what it changed for you, does it get
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  Speaker 2: nostalgic or are you sort of not going to do
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  Speaker 2: that until you call it a day?
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  Speaker 1: We got a little nostalgic.
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  Speaker 3: We still play a bit, so I don't really get
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  Speaker 3: too much of a chance to get to nostalgic about
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  Speaker 3: things um apart from that whole thing is we're a
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  Speaker 3: nostalgia act basically because we don't write new music at
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  Speaker 3: the moment so um uh no I didn't really get
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  Speaker 3: nostalgic about it I just got I got really excited
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  Speaker 3: about just having finally having uh 28 days like a
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  Speaker 3: full length LP on vinyl it's just something because I'm
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  Speaker 3: old and I grew up with records and You know,
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  Speaker 3: it was a whole, it was like a tea ceremony,
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  Speaker 3: Japanese tea ceremony, getting your record out. You know, you'd
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  Speaker 3: have to look after it. You know, I mean, it
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  Speaker 3: was a precious thing that you had to, and this
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  Speaker 3: bit of music was a precious little thing that was
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  Speaker 3: just part of you. So anyway, we skipped that and
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  Speaker 3: went straight to CD, and then obviously everything just went,
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  Speaker 3: we went straight to digital. So, you know, we missed
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  Speaker 3: out on that. So that was really cool to re-release
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  Speaker 3: it for that reason.
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  Speaker 1: For me anyway.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I bet, man. Now, looking back, I'm sure you've
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  Speaker 2: had a few conversations about this over the years, mate,
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  Speaker 2: but why do you think kids connected with your music
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  Speaker 2: so well and so much back then? Like, I remember
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  Speaker 2: I was younger back then too and it was just
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  Speaker 2: there was something about it that just made you want
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  Speaker 2: to get amongst it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, probably just on the same drugs you guys were on. Possibly.
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  Speaker 1: I think because.
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  Speaker 3: So much when so much music was so glamorous and
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  Speaker 3: stuff in the late 80s and stuff and it was great.
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  Speaker 3: The good thing about the 90s is you were just,
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  Speaker 3: you didn't dress up to go play music. You just
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  Speaker 3: wore what you were wearing and the music sort of
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  Speaker 3: told everyone who you were.
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  Speaker 1: Just because we were fuckheads like everyone else.
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  Speaker 3: You know, like we didn't, you know, just because we
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  Speaker 3: played music didn't raise us above you. Like we used
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  Speaker 3: to say, like we're, uh, the thinking man's dickhead, you know,
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  Speaker 3: when dickheads snap, you know what I mean? Like we, we,
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  Speaker 3: Australians don't, we don't take yourself too seriously if we're
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  Speaker 3: good at being Australians. Um, so, uh, we didn't, and
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  Speaker 3: like we were influenced by, you know, fucking friends are wrong.
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  Speaker 3: Like they, they introduced us to Australia, them and body
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  Speaker 3: jail took us on our first couple of big tours
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  Speaker 3: that really introduced us to, um, you know, the rest
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  Speaker 3: of the country. And, You know, they are the consummate
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  Speaker 3: professionals and they never take themselves seriously. Only the bit
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  Speaker 3: where they're playing music for you and they're going to
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: do their job properly and be as best as they
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: can for you. That's the only thing I've ever seen
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: them take seriously. Everything else has just been, and obviously
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: their beliefs and stuff, but everything else is just, life's
• 15:38
  Speaker 3: too short not.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: To fucking laugh at it. Wow.
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: Damn straight.
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: They were our influences and I suppose we just wanted
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: to sort of keep carrying that torch.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: I think it's about time we put the three of
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: you together again for another run. That would be classic.
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: I'd like to do it.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: I wanted to do the big day in or, you know,
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: the bad day out or something like that and just
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: get like punk bands from the 90s. We've talked about
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: it a few times, you know, like get $ 1 short
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: before they sort of start doing $ 0 short and stuff
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: like that.
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: Anyway. Mm-hmm.
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: Well, I've got Jay and Cam's number. I might give
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: them a bell. You get on them from one way,
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: I'll get on them from the other angle and we'll
• 16:14
  Speaker 2: see if we can put something together.
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: Right. I'd love to do that. At least a show.
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: It'd be ace. Yeah, that's something we might have to
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: look at next year.
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: For sure, man. For sure. Now, I'm going to have
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: to ask you one serious question, bro, because... I can.
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: Reflected on the full 30-year journey, like, what's the most
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: valuable lesson you've learned about mateship and surviving the music industry,
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: you reckon?
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: I just don't get too far away from yourself, unless
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: you're a cunt.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Then get as far away from but.
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: Just don't be a shit gun.
• 16:53
  Speaker 3: Just don't yeah i don't know just i think just
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: not taking yourself too seriously and knowing that it's a
• 16:58
  Speaker 3: it's a gift but we obviously we went through a
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: big thing we were pretty big and um we got
• 17:04
  Speaker 3: we suffered from a lot of people blowing sunshine up
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: our ass and and and not being really like i'm
• 17:10
  Speaker 3: i'm better i'm I really enjoy playing music more now
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: that I don't just do that, that I've got all
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: these other parts and my life's a bit more balanced.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: So, yeah. I don't know. I really don't know. I
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: suppose we're just friends. We're just– be friends. If you
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: want to last 30 years, be.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Friends at the start and stay friends and treat your
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: band members like friends.
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: And if– Not everyone gets that. That's a treasure. Not
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: everyone gets that.
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: You spend a lot of time together, and we spent
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: plenty of time together where we couldn't fucking be– it's
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: not that we couldn't stand it. We just couldn't stand
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: being around each other any longer. You know what I mean?
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: So we can spend a lot of time not together
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: and just walk into a room and everyone just slips
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: straight into– you know, like straight into it, like we
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: haven't skipped a beat. So I think, I don't know
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: how anyone else can do it, but for us it's
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: just being, you know, treating your friends well and, you know,
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: if you're lucky enough to play music, like we get
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: to be friends and we make this thing that like
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: it's fucking, last night I went into rehearsal and they
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: started playing and I was like.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: They're good.
• 18:29
  Speaker 4: This is fun.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's great.
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: So, yeah, I don't know. Just treat each other with respect,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: I suppose.