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INTERVIEW: John Starks Talks NBA Career, Michael Jordan G.O.A.T. Talk, Knicks Then Vs. Now, Stephen A. Smith + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Every day a week ago up the Breakfast Club.
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  Speaker 2: You don't finish for y'all done.
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  Speaker 3: Morning. Everybody's the e j Envy just hilarious.
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  Speaker 4: Charlamagne the guy. We are the breakfast Club law la
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  Speaker 4: Ross here as well. We got a special guest in
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  Speaker 4: the building, former New York Nick ladies and gentlemen, John Starks. Welcome, brother, Welcome,
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  Speaker 4: thank you, thank you great here.
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  Speaker 1: I'm feeling great.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, It's it's an honor to have you here. And
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  Speaker 4: if you don't know who John Starks is, of course
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  Speaker 4: former Nick. You know I'm a Nick fan. To see
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  Speaker 4: the grunt in the grind of where you came from
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  Speaker 4: to become a Nick, I think was was. It gives
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  Speaker 4: so much inspiration the kids that don't know. I was
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  Speaker 4: actually telling Lauren before. Just tell them your journey and
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  Speaker 4: how you got into the league and how you made
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  Speaker 4: it to New York Knicks.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna take more than al.
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  Speaker 2: No.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I come from tos to Oklahoma, Black Wall Street,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, come from humble beginnings, uh, single parent, mother, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: seven of us growing up and in the household. Uh
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  Speaker 1: and just the struggles that you go through, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, not having that father figure in the
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  Speaker 1: house and me as a young man trying to find
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  Speaker 1: my way as longer with my brothers and sisters. And
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  Speaker 1: so it was a struggle, but you know, the love
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  Speaker 1: was there in the family itself. So it took everybody
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  Speaker 1: for helping me, you know, find my way in life,
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  Speaker 1: guide myself in a few through trouble situations, let's just
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  Speaker 1: say that. And uh and had to grow up and
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  Speaker 1: become become a man. Uh. And so I was very
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  Speaker 1: fortunate enough to have an older brother who saw something
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  Speaker 1: in me more so than I probably saw it myself,
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  Speaker 1: and kind of pushed me in the right direction, even
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  Speaker 1: though he made his his his mistakes and went, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and did you know, went on vacation, let's just say that.
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  Speaker 1: And so uh, but he saw something in me and
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  Speaker 1: pushed me, uh to you know, get my life back together.
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  Speaker 1: And and I went back and got back in school
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  Speaker 1: and and and started to make somebody out of myself.
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  Speaker 1: And with this talent I had, you know, uh, it
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  Speaker 1: got you know, a coach saw something in me too
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  Speaker 1: and gave me opportunity to come and play basketball. And
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  Speaker 1: so uh, I could say that I went from playing
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  Speaker 1: street basketball to playing in the NBA in two years
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  Speaker 1: once I started, Once I made the decision to uh
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  Speaker 1: change my life and and move in the right direction.
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  Speaker 4: I talk about it because you you drafted to the Warriors.
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  Speaker 4: Undrafted to the Warriors. Uh, then you played in the
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  Speaker 4: G League which they call it now for a couple
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  Speaker 4: of years, and something that was unlikely back then, the
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  Speaker 4: Knicks seen something in you and decided to yah to
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  Speaker 4: pick you to play for.
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  Speaker 3: The New York Knick. And then, yes, talk about that
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  Speaker 3: because back then.
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  Speaker 4: That that didn't happen. Usually you get drafted and you playing.
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  Speaker 4: But y'all came from it. Y'all came from a different angle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got. I was fortunate enough to play for
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  Speaker 1: a coach when I was in the CBA called George Whittaker,
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  Speaker 1: and he gave me an opportunity to come in and
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  Speaker 1: just be myself, you know what I mean. I was
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  Speaker 1: in the NBA. It's a humbling experience when you go
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  Speaker 1: up then all of a sudden, you drop back down,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Because you think you're gonna
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  Speaker 1: be up here at this level forever. But that's not
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  Speaker 1: the case. Sometime and and so I dropped back down,
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  Speaker 1: and so I had to kind of like reach inside
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  Speaker 1: myself and figure out, you know, what I need to
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  Speaker 1: do in order to get back to that next level.
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  Speaker 1: And all I thought about was, you know, the learning
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  Speaker 1: experience that I had the first year and the guys
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  Speaker 1: that play at a high level, what I needed to
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  Speaker 1: do and what I needed to work on. And so
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  Speaker 1: I went down there with the mentality is like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: I need to get better at this, this, this, and uh,
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  Speaker 1: and I did. I went went down there and worked
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  Speaker 1: with that mindset. A lot of guys feel like once
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  Speaker 1: they dropped, oh man, you know the world is in
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  Speaker 1: it sop. Yeah, it's a wrap. And and that wasn't
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  Speaker 1: my mentality. I knew that I belonged at the next level.
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  Speaker 1: So I went in there with that mentality. It's like, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna work hard, you're gonna get your opportunity again.
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  Speaker 1: And once that opportunity came, I took full advantage of it.
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  Speaker 1: But I was playing in the World Basketball League, UH,
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  Speaker 1: a league for six y five and under guys. But
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  Speaker 1: we had guys in there six nine, sixteen, you know,
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  Speaker 1: one of those leagues, and so, uh, the great Dick
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  Speaker 1: McGuire came down and he was scouted me, and I
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  Speaker 1: remember I put on the show. I scored like forty
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  Speaker 1: some points and he said, call my agent and he said, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we want to bring him in the camp. And uh,
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  Speaker 1: and that's how I got to the Knicks.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, now I got to ask you before we go
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  Speaker 4: into the rest of the interview tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, what do the Knicks need to do to win?
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  Speaker 1: Same performance that they did the last game. Come out
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  Speaker 1: with that mentality. Defensively, be aggressive on that end of
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  Speaker 1: the court. Big Cat was a monster, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, having a triple double. Everybody you know did
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  Speaker 1: their job. You know. The most important thing. Uh, winning
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  Speaker 1: games in the playoffs is hard, you know. You you
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  Speaker 1: look at the Detroit series, you wouldn't think they'd be
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  Speaker 1: down three to one. Oh, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So winning playoffs games are tough during the playoffs, so
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  Speaker 1: you have to be able to execute under pressure in situation.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't do that in game number two and three
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  Speaker 1: and got ourselves in the hole. And so but this
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  Speaker 1: last game, they came out and played like champions that
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  Speaker 1: they are, you know, And that's the mentality that you
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  Speaker 1: have to have going forward. You know, every possession means something.
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  Speaker 1: Doing the playoffs, and you can't take a possession off.
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  Speaker 1: Once you do, you can lead to you know, your
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  Speaker 1: opponents going doing some big things in issue. So, but
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  Speaker 1: they come out and play the way they capable of playing.
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  Speaker 1: And I saw that in that San Antonio game. We
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  Speaker 1: played Santonio here, they thought it was like eight guys
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  Speaker 1: on the court on the defensive end of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: And that's what it looked like against the other night
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  Speaker 1: in Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: When you're up fourteen, yes, and you lose right, yes
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  Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. Who's false?
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  Speaker 1: Is that? A lot of people have to take blame.
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  Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, but.
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  Speaker 3: At the end of the day, we got this one.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the day, it's on the players,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so you have to
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  Speaker 1: be able to understand what you need to do in
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  Speaker 1: order to close our game. If you're not executing out
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  Speaker 1: there on the court, games like that is going to happen,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And so it's up truly
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  Speaker 1: up to the players to get it done because they
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  Speaker 1: don't have the ball in their hands. I always say,
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  Speaker 1: you got the ball in your hand, you out there,
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  Speaker 1: you know, making plays and doing the things that it
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  Speaker 1: takes in order to win, So if you don't get
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  Speaker 1: it done, then it falls on you. You know, at
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  Speaker 1: the end of the day, what do you tell people
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  Speaker 1: like Bridges, who New York has has been up the
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  Speaker 1: last couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, because you've been beat up before?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, new York.
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  Speaker 4: Bridges, because New York's been beating him up, he's off.
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  Speaker 4: What do you tell us a player like Bridge.
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  Speaker 1: I'm glad you asked that question because I had it
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  Speaker 1: on my mind when he came in, and that's a
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  Speaker 1: good question. I would tell the Knicks fans and those
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna be at the game to wrap your arms
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  Speaker 1: around him. He should get the loudest cheer tonight when
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  Speaker 1: he's introduced, because it's gonna take everybody to get this
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  Speaker 1: job job done, and what we want to get done
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  Speaker 1: is win a win a championship. It's just like if
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  Speaker 1: your family member is down, you don't go over there
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  Speaker 1: and keep speaking negativity in them, because what's gonna come
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  Speaker 1: out of it negative results, and you speak positivity in them,
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  Speaker 1: positive results is gonna come out. So we need for
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  Speaker 1: everybody to cheer for him, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna he had to. He's gonna come out of it.
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  Speaker 1: I'm not even worried about Michael. He's been through it.
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  Speaker 1: He's a he's a champion, you know, and so I'm
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  Speaker 1: not too much worried about it. But he definitely needs
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  Speaker 1: the uplifting from the fans. He can't be booming. I
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  Speaker 1: don't like that, you know what I mean, because it
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  Speaker 1: takes everybody to get the job done, and we're gonna
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  Speaker 1: need need him in order to get this job done.
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  Speaker 5: But if they don't do all the uplifting, right because
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  Speaker 5: you played in this market, you know, oh yeah, if
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  Speaker 5: they don't do all that, like, what does he mentally
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  Speaker 5: do to just stay focused, because you know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, get in the gym and work. At the end
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  Speaker 1: of the day, I've been through it, you know, and
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  Speaker 1: there's only one way to come out of it is
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  Speaker 1: just get in the gym and work. Just the year
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  Speaker 1: I feel so I feel like it is you know.
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  Speaker 1: I saw that in the San Antonio they beat Santonio twice.
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  Speaker 1: Everybody talking about the the champions, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Outside of Oklahoma City, they next in line. So I
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  Speaker 1: watched New York destroy them in New York, you know,
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  Speaker 1: with woudn'b be playing and they had a full rosters,
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  Speaker 1: so it wasn't no excuse me. So uh, that told
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  Speaker 1: me that they can win it all, you know, even
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  Speaker 1: more so than what I believe in the beginning of
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  Speaker 1: the season. And so it's just about them going out
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  Speaker 1: there and playing. They they've been through it. They didn't
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  Speaker 1: tuck their the knocks, you know these for last couple
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  Speaker 1: of years. They didn't lost in the semi finals, they
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  Speaker 1: didn't lost in the conference final. And the next step
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  Speaker 1: is the championship. And that's what we did. You know,
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  Speaker 1: in ninety four we lost, in ninety two against Chicago,
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  Speaker 1: ninety three we lost against Chicago. Then finally we crossed
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  Speaker 1: that threshold. And that's where they're at. They didn't pay
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  Speaker 1: their dues and so I truly believe that that's next
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  Speaker 1: up for them.
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  Speaker 4: People think Cat and I love Kat, People think Cat
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  Speaker 4: is too soft. What's your what's your opinion on Can?
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  Speaker 1: No, he's not showing that he saw he's seeing what
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  Speaker 1: he's doing out here, you know what I mean. And
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  Speaker 1: I see the excitement in him. That's what that's what
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  Speaker 1: I love about him. I see the excitement. He he
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  Speaker 1: loves the stage, and I see that, you know, you
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  Speaker 1: see you have to win. He's going slapping everybody up.
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  Speaker 1: He loves this stage and he wants the ball, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. He wants to be that man,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and I'm thankful that we have him, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm thankful that we have Jalen, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Two guys who wants the ball and clutch clutch time.
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  Speaker 1: So you know, I love kat I love the way
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  Speaker 1: he play, but we're gonna need everybody else to, you know,
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  Speaker 1: play at that next level too, and everybody is og
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  Speaker 1: is starting to do it. Heart does what he do,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. All these guys are chipping in.
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  Speaker 1: Our bench is starting to play a lot better. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited, I really am. I'm truly excited.
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  Speaker 4: Well, tonight is the game. Yes, definitely check it out.
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  Speaker 4: And when we come back, John Stokes, appreciate you for
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  Speaker 4: joining us. We got the positive notes, so don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 3: It's the breakfast club. Good morning.
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  Speaker 1: So now.
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  Speaker 4: Josh Hart wears number three. Yes, is that a great
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  Speaker 4: representation of who you are? An extension of who you are?
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  Speaker 3: I think?
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  Speaker 4: So I felt like Nicks haven't had that, and no
• 11:02
  Speaker 4: disrespect like that garbage man field, Like you're gonna do everything.
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  Speaker 4: You're gonna steal, you're gonna don't, you're gonna dive, You're
• 11:08
  Speaker 4: gonna put your body on the line. I feel like
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  Speaker 4: we haven't had that since you. Yeah, what's your thoughts
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  Speaker 4: on it?
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you one hundred percent. I love Josh,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I just love the Yeah, he he comes
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  Speaker 1: out and he led on the line. Josh. You know,
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  Speaker 1: Josh sixty four six', five but he plays, like uh
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  Speaker 1: he's seven foot you know WHAT i. Mean the hustle
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  Speaker 1: and the grit that he plays. WITH i love, it
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  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. Mean and SO i don't know
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  Speaker 1: where we'd be without him because he does the little
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  Speaker 1: things that it takes in order to win win the,
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  Speaker 1: game you, know come up with loose, balls he get
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  Speaker 1: to balls over seven. Footers he just do, everything you,
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  Speaker 1: know at a at a high level that you want
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  Speaker 1: your guy like that to play. At and, so, Uh i'm,
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  Speaker 1: excited uh what he brings to the. Table we just
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  Speaker 1: need for him to keep Doing, Josh Josh sting's out
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: there on the. Court how did you.
• 12:04
  Speaker 6: Get Into i'm, sorry this is not even. Basketball how
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  Speaker 6: did you get into the car.
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  Speaker 1: Business oh that's a good. QUESTION a good friend of,
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  Speaker 1: Mine's Joe, vitazio who owns Four lincoln Of, queens brought
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  Speaker 1: me into the business along with the other. PARTNERS i
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: was doing some marketing stuff for, them For lincoln And
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  Speaker 1: queens and say he was interested in and opening up
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  Speaker 1: a kid dealership WITH i would love to partner with,
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  Speaker 1: him AND i, like, sure you, know BECAUSE i know
• 12:36
  Speaker 1: the car business is a good. Business and and so
• 12:39
  Speaker 1: that's kind of HOW i got involved in the car.
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  Speaker 1: Business and it's been, incredible just kind of learning a
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: lot about what it takes in order to sell a
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  Speaker 1: car and the money that you make off of selling
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  Speaker 1: cars and, so and the beautiful thing about it is
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  Speaker 1: that we get to help, people you know WHAT i,
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  Speaker 1: MEAN a lot of these people that comes in some
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  Speaker 1: of its first time having a, car and a lot of,
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  Speaker 1: them you, know maybe going through situations where we can
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  Speaker 1: help them. Out. Uh so it's a beautiful. Thing you.
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  Speaker 1: KNOW i get a chance to interact with the customer
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  Speaker 1: and what have. You, so, uh it's a it's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of. FUN i truly enjoyed at the. Ship. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: YEAH i come in, there not all the all the.
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  Speaker 1: Time but you do see me in. There, yes that
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  Speaker 1: was my first.
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  Speaker 6: Call, yeah, yep crash.
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  Speaker 2: Again people come in and they're, like oh my, God
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  Speaker 2: yes they.
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  Speaker 1: Do they do because they be surprised to see, me
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  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. Mean and so, UH i get
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  Speaker 1: a chance to get over there and uh and BUT
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  Speaker 1: i do a lot of. Marketing that's my. Job as
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  Speaker 1: you can, SEE i can't marketing all over. Me and
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  Speaker 1: uh but we have some incredible uh uh sales ASSOCIATES
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  Speaker 1: i like to call, them uh that truly do their
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  Speaker 1: best to try to help everybody that comes through those.
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  Speaker 3: Doors when you when you are at the in the.
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  Speaker 4: Ship and of Course New york Is New, york, Right,
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  Speaker 4: yes The New yorkers come to you and want to
• 14:05
  Speaker 4: sit down and be, Like, yo do you consider what
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: you did dunking On? Georgia talking about that last? Game
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  Speaker 4: how was your mental? Health do they have those conversations with?
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  Speaker 1: You? Yes, yes you ever get tired Of, NO i,
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  Speaker 1: DON'T i. Don't this this Is New. YORK i Love New. York.
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  Speaker 1: Man i'm a little country boy coming From oklahoma and
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: just in a big city trying to make a, living you,
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  Speaker 1: Know BUT i love talking and expressing WHAT i went
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  Speaker 1: through because it's the. Fans you know what makes Uh
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  Speaker 1: New York New, york you know WHAT i, mean makes
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  Speaker 1: The knicks The, knicks and SO i never get tired of,
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  Speaker 1: that never get old of. ME i tell, people SINCE
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  Speaker 1: i became working for The knicks back in two thousand and,
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  Speaker 1: FOUR i get asked that question every single, day which
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: you want to like the? Dunk so do you consider that?
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  Speaker 3: Dunk because people Like jordan was dear it was it That?
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  Speaker 1: Mike mike said it Was. Mike he always tell ME
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  Speaker 1: i didn't dunk on, him BUT i. WAS i got
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  Speaker 1: a big poster say. IT i, did but you, know
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  Speaker 1: him being, him you know WHAT i. MEAN i GET
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  Speaker 1: i always explained like, This SO i dunked over Horse
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: grant might got in the picture made it look, good
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  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. Mean so that's that's how it.
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  Speaker 1: Is but he did try to go for the, block
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: so he got a little piece of.
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  Speaker 3: It do you think THE nba so? Soft?
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  Speaker 1: NOW i don't think it's. SOFT i think it just
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: has evolved into more of an offensive scoring, game you
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i. MEAN i think it's it's not as
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: physical because you don't have that big man that we
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: had back in the. Day every guy every team had seven,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: foots low post, players all of, that and so we
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: had to feed them so and that lane was very
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: congested and so you had to fight your way in
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  Speaker 1: there just to. Score now everybody's spread. Out now it's
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: just a driving kick. Game and so but as you can,
• 15:55
  Speaker 1: see during the, playoffs they letting they going back to
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: the old school. Rules they at the hand, check they
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  Speaker 1: letting things go that they normally don't let go during
• 16:03
  Speaker 1: the regular. Season so this is where you find out
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  Speaker 1: what players can.
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  Speaker 4: Play doctor j was here last year and he was
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: talking about you, know he disliked the.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Flopping oh, yes he said he dis liked the.
• 16:15
  Speaker 4: Flopping he disliked THE i guess the, management player management
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: where they rest the.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Time, yeah load, management he said he disliked. That he said,
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: That i'm with him one hundred. Percent you know WHAT i.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: Mean they talking about short in the, Season, well they go,
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: short you shorten your. CONTRACT i don't want to do.
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: That we can play the two. Games, No it's come, on,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: man you play two and a half hours at. Today
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: you got people grinding the, ass you, know from the
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: time they get up to the time they go to
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: bed trying to make a. Living you know WHAT i,
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: mean you just playing two and a half, hours you,
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Know and SO i don't believe in. That you. Know
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: it's just you got a job to, do and your
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: job just go out and play. Basketball and now if
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: you weren't getting, paid would you still be doing? It,
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: yes you know WHAT i, Mean you'll be out in gyms.
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: Playing so just go out there and do your. Job,
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: man that's what you get paid to. Do that's my.
• 17:08
  Speaker 5: Mentality what was y'all's, Like BECAUSE i was asking, envy,
• 17:11
  Speaker 5: like you, know Like Spike lee and all these celebrities
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: have been going to y'all games.
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: Forever the culture has been there.
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: Forever but LIKE i can't even imagine a time where
• 17:18
  Speaker 5: like something that doesn't happen in the game and it's
• 17:21
  Speaker 5: like super.
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Viral like for, y'all it was a lot.
• 17:23
  Speaker 5: Different so, like during the time that you were, playing
• 17:25
  Speaker 5: what was the big biggest.
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: Distraction for you?
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Women, yeah.
• 17:31
  Speaker 5: You GOT i feel like today the players deal with
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: it's the. Money you got family trying to figure that.
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Out but on the other, side WHEN i talk about
• 17:37
  Speaker 5: the players a, Lot i'm normally talking about.
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: The women and the things that they're getting into.
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: Social.
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: Media, yes what was your biggest, Distraction.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: The biggest, DISTRACTION i would just say probably the. Media
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: back then far as sports talk talk, radio that's that's
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: more so the biggest. Traction we didn't have to deal,
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: with like you, said social. Media you didn't things just
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: like wasn't ready accessible to you when you when you
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: mess up or you say something wrong or what have.
• 18:12
  Speaker 1: You like it is now these guys have to deal
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: with so much of, that you know WHAT i. Mean
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: we got our news maybe the next day when you
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: turn on the radio and somebody says something on the,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: radio you read something in the paper or what have.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: You immediately after the, game first thing they do they
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: pick up their, phone you know WHAT i. Mean and
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: SO i remember when doing my playing, time especially during
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: this time of the, YEAR i shut everything, down you
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i. Mean my, wife kids. Understand, OKAY i
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: only got a certain amount of time THAT i could
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: talk to, him you know WHAT i, mean Because i'm watching,
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: Tape i'm watching. GAMES i listened To Shay alexander last
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: night after the. Game he said he's been watching The
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: houston And lakers. Series you, know that's a young man
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: to get, it you know WHAT i, Mean that's what is,
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: about you know WHAT i, Mean i'm prepared for them,
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: mentally even Though i'm playing this, Game i'm preparing for
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: my next. Series and so, yeah yeah he's incredible first. Football,
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: see he's just amazing young. Man but, yeah it's just
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: about you, know shutting everything, off getting focused and understanding
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: you got a job to do and uh and stay on.
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: Point and so hopefully these guys understand that that's the main.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Thing and IF i could get help get across to,
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: HIM i try my best to get across to. HIM
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: a lot of.
• 19:39
  Speaker 6: Things that they go through now is like you, know,
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: relationships especially on a date in the same industry or
• 19:44
  Speaker 6: like you, know in any. Industry, now what you go
• 19:47
  Speaker 6: through off the court becomes bigger than what you're doing
• 19:50
  Speaker 6: in the league.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Or on the. Court, yeah that's that's, tough you, know,
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: man we didn't have all that back then like it is.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Now U. Uh everybody want to be involved in your,
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: life even the media, Too like you don't be asking
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: you it's, like, no can you ask me about the,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: game not about my ex?
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: Girlfriend you know where you saw me at last?
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Night?
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah the fans play a part in.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: It, yeah for. SURE i mean for, sure it's it's
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: it's the toughest thing for. Them AND i feel for
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: them because it's it's almost hard for them to have
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a relationship that you're trying to have a serious relationship
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: with someone because you so in the media and those
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: who you know won't to be in the. Media you're
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: just exposing your life to you, know to the, world
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: and those who, don't you, KNOW i applaud, them you
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i, mean because they're trying to live live
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: a simple life and in this, crazy you know business
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: that we are, in and, so, uh it's tough for
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: them and so, UH i don't know what to say
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: on that relationship social. Media, YEAH i, know but that's true.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: TOO i agree with. You, yeah years in.
• 21:06
  Speaker 4: How would you rank uh These knicks players today compared
• 21:10
  Speaker 4: to your?
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: Squad? Uh they. THERE i truly believe that is worst
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: squad even, SQUAD i would, say pretty, much EVEN i
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: will always give, ourselves you, know to not BUT i
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: think their mentality is like our, mentality you. Know they
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: they they rough, riders and that's what you have to
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: be In New. York New york want to see, that
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: and so because they want you to fight every, game
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: they can deal with the losses and what have, you
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: but they don't think that you're. Fighting then you got
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: a problem In New york and you're gonna getting you
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: out of, here you know WHAT i? Mean and so,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: uh but they THAT dna is inside of. THEM i
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: think Coach tills did a good job from a defensive
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: standpoint of putting THAT dna inside of them and you
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: see it, spurts it comes out of. Them but we
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: got to come out of you all the, time you,
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: know in for forty eight. Minutes and if they can do,
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: that then they got a shot to win it.
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: All now you Mentioned.
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: TIBs now a lot of people Thought TIBs overworked his players. Sometimes,
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: yeah but then you look back and then you can say, that,
• 22:14
  Speaker 4: y'all well overwork back in the.
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Day so what were your thoughts in the way his
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: his coaching.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: Style, yeah when you, say well we was overworking, Practice
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: roles used to be, like oh, man the practice used
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: to be, long three hours, sometimes you know WHAT i.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: Mean but we were very successful at the end of the.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: DAY i can REMEMBER i was talking To patrick and
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: we was talking about How roles in the last five.
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: Minutes he would go over things over and over and,
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: over and we was, like, man, enough we got. IT
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: i don't think you have over and over and, over
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: but were such an executing team at the. Thing NOW
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: i think, back it's, like that's why because he went
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: over situations twenty four seconds on the shot, clock five
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: seconds on the shot, clock two seconds on the Shot
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: we would just go, overplays, overplays. Overplays but NOW i get.
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: It why BECAUSE i see it, happening you know WHAT i?
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Mean and, so, uh it's important that you you you
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: go over those, things especially doing it because he said
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: the smallest details to get you beat during the, game
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: and it does, yeah big. Time as you. Know.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Now, also you, know people Give STEVEN. A smith a
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: lot of flags sometimes right.
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: Because he goes at a lot of the athletes and
• 23:29
  Speaker 4: he's a Huge New york. Fan he will go At
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: New york in a minute if he feels That New
• 23:32
  Speaker 4: york is f N. R i agree with him most
• 23:33
  Speaker 4: of the. Time what are your thoughts when you know
• 23:37
  Speaker 4: journalists sometimes maybe go too.
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: Far people figure that they didn't too. Far what are
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: your thoughts on?
• 23:42
  Speaker 4: That?
• 23:44
  Speaker 7: MAN i Love Steven day he he uh he's a
• 23:49
  Speaker 7: Big knicks, fan of, course but he's gonna keep it one,
• 23:53
  Speaker 7: hundred you know at the end of the.
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: Day uh he's but he's gonna always ride with The
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: knicks no matter, what as he should know WHAT i, Mean,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: shit you know WHAT i. Mean and so, yeah as a,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: player you may you may not like, it you know
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: WHAT i, Mean but you just take what he's say
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: and you pulled the truth out of it and you
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: deal with it and you leave all the. Negativity you,
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: know you don't think about that that type of. Stuff
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Uh SO i never got into you, know the. Bit
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: i'll tell you. This WHEN i first got to The
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: knicks in nineteen, ninety, right AND i started to have some,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: success And Trent tucker told, me he, Said, john he,
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: said you're starting to get some, success and what have?
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: You he, Said the best THING i could tell, you
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: don't read the, newspaper don't listen to talk. Radio AND
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: i didn't do that my whole. Career didn't read the,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: news not even, Man, john he killed, you see because
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: you let that that stuff started entering your. Thoughts then
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you take it out to the.
• 24:55
  Speaker 5: Court but at no point, ever LIKE i, know like
• 24:57
  Speaker 5: there were conversations about Like game seven stuff like, that
• 24:59
  Speaker 5: and no point because they were coming for.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: You there was always coming from, me, yeah.
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: And never like at one point you were, like, NO i.
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: Had to get away from that because that's, negative AND
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: i tried to keep negative things out of my, life
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: and SO i had to deal with it. INTERNALLY i
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: had to go. BACK i REMEMBER i started that season
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: off AND i was, struggling and you, know fans was
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: getting on, me radio was getting on me this and.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: That BUT i didn't read the newspaper this and. That
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: AND i told, MYSELF i, said you know, what let
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: me go sit down BECAUSE i didn't watch the game at.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: All you, know during that, SUMMER i, said let me
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: go sit down and watch this Game game seven, man
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: just to get it out of my system BECAUSE i
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: was running from, it you know WHAT i. Mean SO
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: i had to face. It and ONCE i faced, it faced,
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: it everything else started to take off FROM i started
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: to play a lot better and this and, that BUT
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: i was running for. SOMETHING i was just trying to
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: block it, out block it. OUT i couldn't block it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: Out SO i had to face. It and, finally WHEN
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: i faced, IT i was able to get over it
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: and move on and end up having a successful career after.
• 26:10
  Speaker 4: That that That knick squad was the closest we've had
• 26:12
  Speaker 4: to win in THE Chip, like there was just so
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: Many yeah that, man y'all broke my heart so many.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Times sorry about. That, Sorry, yeah he's, True he's.
• 26:26
  Speaker 4: TRUE i wanted To, joannice there was one time we
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: all Believe jannis was coming to The.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Knicks was that ever? True was that ever?
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: CLOSE i don't, know be honest with, you Because i'm
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: not in that part of The, knicks uh, organization, organization you,
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: Know i'm on the marketing side of. It, Uh i'm not.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Sure you, Know jannis is obviously a great, talent you, know,
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: amazing amazing uh. Player. Uh WHAT i love about him
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: is his lord T and you, know he could have
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Left milwaukee a long time ago and basically what he
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: told him to give me some players AND i bring a.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Championship gave him some. Players he brought a, championship you
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i. Mean he's not one of these superstars
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: who want to go from here to there and join.
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: Everybody and he's not that type of, individual you know
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: WHAT i. Mean i'm not sure what the situation is In. Milwaukee,
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: rather he's ready to go because he Had LIKE i,
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: said he haven't said it publicly that he's ready to,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: go but, yeah he's just an, incredible incredible, player AND
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: i got a great deal of respect for.
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: Him how did The knicks treat the? Alumni we've seen
• 27:30
  Speaker 4: the problem they have With oakley at one. Time, yeah
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: and it's always been a thing with a lot of
• 27:35
  Speaker 4: these teams treating their alumni, right treating the.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Guys that graduated, that we should say and balled out for.
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: Him how did The knick street their?
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Alumni they're the, best you, know and you have to
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: thank Mister dola for, that to be honest with. You you,
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: know he ingratiates all of us when we come back
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: and to be a part of what we're doing doing,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: Here and so everybody enjoy coming back. Here you, know
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: you got guys who played one, year six, Months once A,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: nick always A, knicks that's our. Motto but you, know
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: guys enjoy coming back, here and it means something to.
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: Them being A New York knicks and being you, know
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: living in the city and playing for this city and
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: in the fan, base it means something to. Them you.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: KNOW i Hear jamal on the television last night and
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: they was talking about another, team and first thing he
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: talked about The, knicks you know WHAT i? Mean and, so,
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: uh it's it's just something about What New york brings
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: out and every other organization is trying to copy what we,
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: do but they can't copy what we, do you know
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: WHAT i. Mean and So i'm very appreciative, that you,
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: know all the guys are part of what's going on right,
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: now BECAUSE i think we have something very.
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: Special conversation that's a.
• 28:59
  Speaker 4: Conversation especially alumni and in former players always, say you,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: know you played With Michael, Jordan you've been Watching?
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: Lebron who is the goat when it comes to? Basketball
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: and why?
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Shot DO i really have to? Answer?
• 29:15
  Speaker 4: NO i know generation of, course right the younger generation
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: is always S.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: I'm gonna Say. Jordan you, Know i'm gonna, Say, jordan Why?
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah when you play against somebody that did things that,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: like you just shake your. Head it's, like how can
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: this man be on all the? Time like twenty four to?
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: Seven how can you be on all the? Time we
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: didn't See lebron And lebron is, great don't get me,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: wrong but we didn't you had questions about. Him you
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: never had a question About. Jordan you never had a
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: question about if anybody should be considered It's kareem And
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: jordan's that should be the two gold. Questions but you
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: never had a question About. Mike you know WHAT i? Mean,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: NOTHING i can't think of. Nothing, WELL i remember when
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: he came back and they was in the playoffs against
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: The Orlando magic and you probably remember, this and he
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: turned the ball over in game. Six he was like
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: shocked down the. Stretch he was like what he made a.
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: Mistake then you see what. Happened he came back to
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: the next three years and they ended up Busting, yeah,
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: Exactly so you don't he just, different, Bro he was
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: just a different. Mentality his his his, drive his you
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: know things that you you thought he couldn't. Do you
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: said he couldn't hit. Threes he learned to hit threes
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: his middrain. Game he just made play after play down
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: the stretch And i'm, Like i'm watching, Film i'm, like,
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: dude how did You how is you doing? This you
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: don't all the damn? Time how is she doing this
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: all the? Time, like guy's make, Mistakes but he didn't make,
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: mistakes and that's that's what made him so. Different but
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: he and if he like everybody tell about if he playing,
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: today if he playing today's, era it's it be un.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: Merciful it really. Would.
• 31:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah but you you had you you, know you had
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: the job to stick them. Right, Yes how difficult was?
• 31:20
  Speaker 4: That like what did you have to do before the?
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Game like, Exactly, uh watch tape man and try to find.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Weaknesses you know when when we as, players we watch
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: tape and, say, okay this guy he can't go, left
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: he can't go. Right he liked doing. This when you
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: close out on, this it's, like, dude this week. None
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: so you just go out. There and my mentality was
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: just to play them, hard the nam the, ball just
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: make him, work you know WHAT i. Mean he's still
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: gonna go score, thirty but you got to make him
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: work for those thirties and and try to not let
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: him get everybody involved in the. Game but when he
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: wants to come out out AND i didn't see those
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: moments that look in his, Eye it's, like, dude you
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: had for a long. NIGHT i can remember watching when
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: he came back Against, atlanta right and when he came
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: out of baseball and he was playing The Atlanta hawks
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: right before he came to the, guard And i'm watching the,
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: game this and. That then he rolls and hit the
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: last at the buzz and then he went like. THAT
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: i was, like damn back because he was struggling up
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: to that. Point then he came to the. Guard normally
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: he would like speak to. Me he didn't speak to.
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: ME i was, like it's gonna be long, nights, sun
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: get ready for. It get ready for. It and he
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: hit me with a fifty.
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: FIVE i know that.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: It was always really competitive between you And, jordan but
• 32:44
  Speaker 5: like there was also like a mutual level of. Respective
• 32:46
  Speaker 5: But i'm hearing, too what was something that you, learned
• 32:49
  Speaker 5: like now looking back on, it like what was something
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: you maybe unknowingly learned from the times that you got
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: to go back and forth with him on the.
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: Court that's that's a great. Question his, focus he's the
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: head series about when he's out there playing the game of.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: Basketball his work. Ethic one thing about, him you, know
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: like you, said and that was a great. Question our
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: matchups was more. Competitiveness it wasn't. Combative you, know me
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: And reggie's a little different with more combativeness With, reggie
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: but me and him was more. COMPETITIVE i remember he
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: hit me with an. ELBOW i swung a elbow and
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: almost hit. ME i was, Like, mike we're not going.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: There he's, like, man my. Bad you know WHAT i?
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: Mean because you, know we never had that type of you,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: know animosity towards one. Another we had a little flare
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: up one time in ninety three and during the, playoffs
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: and he THOUGHT i was trying to because he had
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: some on his wrists AND i reached for the ball
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: to slap the ball and hit his ball and we
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: had like a little flare up and they kicked me
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: out the, game like you gotta, go, dude WHAT i?
• 34:01
  Speaker 3: Do you know WHAT i?
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Mean and, so but other than, that it was more
• 34:06
  Speaker 1: of competitiveness with. Him you know WHAT i.
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Mean is that the game where you say he.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: Apologized, yeah he apologized to me exactly exactly because he
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: was going through. Something, obviously you know the night he
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: was it's probably been out there, before but people was
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: putting things that he was out in ac before a.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Game but It's Michael. Jordan he knew how to get
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: ready for a, game you know WHAT i. Mean and,
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: so and that's WHAT i said when the reporters came
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: in there because they THOUGHT i was gonna go at
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: him and this and, That i'm, like, no, say this
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: man got the right to do what he wanted to.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: Do you, know he didn't done everything for this. League
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: so his free time is his free. Time but it's
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: not that way, now you know WHAT i. Mean and
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: so all they did is like kicked them off a little,
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: Bit and SO i said there on the, radio and
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: he apologized because you, know we never had that that
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: type of you, Know i'm coming at him LIKE i
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: got too much respect for him to even go at.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Him but Did, yeah for, Sure, NO i had respect For.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: Reggie NO i. Had reggy was a great, player don't
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: get me. Wrong But reggie back in the, day and
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: this how it was back in the. Day and when
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: you came in and you probably understand, this it's like
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: going to the, park nobody know who you. Are you
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: got to try to get your, respect you, know and
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: they're not they're not giving it, up you know WHAT i.
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Mean and so that Was, reggie you know WHAT i?
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: Mean that that was the league back. Then you had
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: to earn your. Respect it wasn't given to you like
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: a lot of these guys come in the, league it's
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: given to them right. Away it wasn't that way by
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: Because i'm playing against grown men twenty six, now you're
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: playing against what you, know twenty year old night when
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: you come, in when you're coming in the league, now
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: and so back, then you know you had to you
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: had to earn your. RESPECT i Remember Larry bird, saying
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: this is the league to, say separate the men from the,
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: boys and it's not their way now at this point in.
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: Time and, so uh, yeah he just wasn't giving it,
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: up you know WHAT i. Mean SO i had to
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: go out there and snatch, it you know WHAT i,
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: mean at the end of the day in their. Head
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: but you, know LIKE i, said after the head bugged
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: me And reggie didn't have no more. Problem we played
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: basketball and it was. Cool were you mad To spike that?
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: Game, NO i know everybody thinks everybody was mad as.
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: Spi that was the most funniest thing WHEN i was
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: reading everybody like The spike lost the game for, Us
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: but that wasn't the. Case that wasn't the, case you,
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: know as, players AND i was find myself doing it
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: as a. Fan i'm sitting down there And i'm antagonizing
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the players THAT i had to catch. Myself, man Shut,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah i'm sitting down, There i'm watching the, game and you,
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: know you want to be a part of, it but
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: also as a, player you know That god feed off of,
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: that you know WHAT i. Mean you look at you KNOW.
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: Cj you, know and the fans getting on and he
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: trying to be the new bigger version of the trade
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: young you, know doing a good. Job he's doing a good.
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: Job but, yeah guy's feed off of. That SO i
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: had to catch. Myself So i've been kind of a
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: little quiet towards the players now and letting these guys
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: go out there and. Play but, yeah it's it's uh,
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Different it's. Different.
• 37:23
  Speaker 4: Man with so many athletes you hear going broke right
• 37:26
  Speaker 4: leaving the, league how were you able to sustain so?
• 37:29
  Speaker 6: Long?
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah be conscious of what you're, doing you know WHAT i.
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Mean LIKE i, said we wasn't making the type of
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: money statement these guys making Generational, well you, know their
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: one year contract is my whole contract for my, career
• 37:44
  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. Mean and so it's really about
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: being conscious of what you're. DOING i was reading a
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: friend of mine semi article on this football. Player you've
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: probably seen it where he bought his, mother his, sister you,
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: know a couple of maseratis AT uv and they're, saying
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: this contract after tax is gonna be five hundred thousand,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: dollars like you, Know but then, AGAIN i don't know his.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: Situation that could be a marketing. Deal you never, know
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. Mean and, so but you really
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: got to be, conscious you, know and you could start.
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: Early that's the best, thing you, know get advice, from you,
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: know somebody replicaal who understands about, finances who understands about.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: Taxes because a million. DOLLARS i remember WHEN i came In,
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: LEA i got one hundred thousand, dollars, right And i'm
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: coming From. Oklahoma i'm thinking one hundred. Thouars, wow that's
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: a lot of. MONEY i went To. CALIFORNIA i played
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: For Golden State chop chop shop shop. Man WHEN i
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: walked out of there at the end of the, YEAR
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: i had like ten thousand. Dollars, JESUS i couldn't even
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: like buy a ticket to get, home be honest with,
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: you BECAUSE i tell, baby we got to. Drive SO
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: i packed my wife and my son and my tourist
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: go all the way back To. Oklahoma but, yeah that's what,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: like you, know that's part of the, business you know
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: WHAT i. Mean SO i would advise because these kids
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: are getting money at a younger age, now you know
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: WHAT i, mean all the way down today they in
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: high school now getting paid, now especially in. College you
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: Know cooper Flag, maye what thirty million dollars is his freshman.
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: Year that's, bananas you know WHAT i. Mean SO i
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: would think that a lot of these coaches should these
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: young kids that's coming in should get financial classes early.
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: On that's the first thing you need to. Do set them,
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: down teach them by, finance taxes and what have, you
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people are gonna take advantage of,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: them you know WHAT i. Mean it's like you think
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: a million dollars a lot of, money but in the
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: sense it's, not because a lot of people is eating
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: off of that. Agent, yeah family.
• 39:53
  Speaker 3: Everything, yeah you, know you.
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: Walk away hopefully with some money in your, pocket you
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: know WHAT i mean at the end of the. Day
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: so they really need to be getting taught probably even you,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: know in the eighth, GRADE i heard its like agents
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: down watching kids in the eighth grade and trying to
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: get them in the eighth. Grade that's. Bananas that's. Crazy, yeah, yeah,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: yeah that is. Crazy so you really have to you
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: really have to teach these kids about finances early. On and,
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: unfortunately in our you, know in our, family you know
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: WHAT i, mean And i'm talking About African american, family
• 40:28
  Speaker 1: we don't get taught that early, on you know WHAT i.
• 40:31
  Speaker 1: Mean and that needs to start in the. Household that
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: need to start in, school all of, that you, know
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: to get taught about.
• 40:38
  Speaker 5: Finances you went to school for, business yeah, right but
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: and then like you had invested AND i was reading
• 40:44
  Speaker 5: something about a company that you invested in while you were,
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: playing but it didn't go. Well, yeah so all those
• 40:48
  Speaker 5: things you were just like random was like shooting your,
• 40:50
  Speaker 5: shot just trying to figure.
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: Out no one was helping you navigate throughing.
• 40:52
  Speaker 6: That.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: NO i was just trying to figure it out on my,
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: own you know WHAT i. Mean and sometimes that's the
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: worst thing to, do you know, me BECAUSE i had
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: a couple of businesses that BUT i also had something
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: that succeed and so, uh you, KNOW i wouldn't call
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: myself a, gambler you know WHAT i. Mean But i'm
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: a lot smarter now Because i've been through those. Failures
• 41:12
  Speaker 1: just like on the, court when you go through those,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: failures you learn from them and you bounce back. Stronger
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: and So i've been through those, failures and So i'm
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: able to tell a kid, now don't get involved in.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: This don't get involved in, that you know WHAT i,
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: mean because you're not gonna be, successful you know uh
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: WHAT i one THING i would tell young, people do
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: not get involved in something where you're not gonna be
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: there on a daily. BASIS i was gonna ask, that
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, mean you, know Because i've been
• 41:40
  Speaker 1: involved in a restaurant deal and the guy told me
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: a good friend of mine is that don't do, it
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: AND i did it, anyway went against his advice and that,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: failed you, know because you're not there every single, day
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: and that's a. Business you have to be there on
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: a daily.
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: Basis and that's what's going to ask you who taught
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: you about the car? Industry right because the car industry of,
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Us it's be easy for somebody to Say i'm gona
• 42:02
  Speaker 4: PARTNER u With John starks and use his celebrity to sell.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: Cars but you, know once you're in the car. Industry you,
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: know it's not just. That it's a lot.
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: More to, it, right you, know there's there's, warranties there's
• 42:11
  Speaker 4: the service department that makes the most.
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: Money so who taught you that?
• 42:14
  Speaker 4: Industry and how deep are you in with with the
• 42:17
  Speaker 4: dealership that you're, Own.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Joe, yeah he's teaching me every single. Day and THEN
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: i got my man over, Here, damien who's A gm
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: over at My kire, dealership is teaching me a lot
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: about the business. Itself like you, say all of that
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: goes into. Play and in order to be, successful you
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: have to have a successful uh service. Department that way
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: you make a lot of your. Money as you, know
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: you even Being.
• 42:44
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna shoot, soon BUT i you, know LIKE i
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: want to, learn you, KNOW i, mean BECAUSE i want
• 42:47
  Speaker 4: to learn every aspect you know that that's important they
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: make and you just know that with, dealerships most people
• 42:53
  Speaker 4: think it's how many cars you.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Sell, Right but it's it's.
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: Fine you get to the, financing you get a piece
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: of the service department warranty like, this it's so.
• 43:01
  Speaker 3: MUCH i love. It, so you, know so how how
• 43:05
  Speaker 3: deep you get into?
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: It i'm. Trying i'm trying to learn as much AS i.
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: CAN i really, am BECAUSE i need to know the,
• 43:11
  Speaker 1: business you, know and so, uh every Day i'm learning
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: a little bit and uh and trying to uh become
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: uh like this man got over here in MY. Gm.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: Uh and so it's very important THAT i get an
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: understanding of the business as a, whole you, know because
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: LIKE i, said you you go into something, unknown and
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: and so the most important thing if you can do your.
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: Homework just like WHAT i did on the basketball. Court,
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: UH i wasn't a great basketball player UNTIL i started
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: doing my, homework and so this business is no. Different you.
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: Know you have to do your homework and have a
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: good concept of what you're doing and to be a
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: part of.
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: It was it a what was it a difficult transition for?
• 43:59
  Speaker 6: You you retired, though BECAUSE i know you said you
• 44:02
  Speaker 6: got into the businesses and we're trying different. Things, yeah
• 44:04
  Speaker 6: and everything didn't work because.
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Their life was.
• 44:06
  Speaker 6: Basketball he was coming from like basically all you essentially
• 44:09
  Speaker 6: knew and all you wanted to do for a.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: While was it difficult for?
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: You for? Me not, really BECAUSE i WAS i was
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: getting ready prepared to. Retire you, know some guys are
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: not prepared to retire BECAUSE i had my last. YEAR
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: i had a hip, injury SO i got two hip. Replacements,
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: now SO i had a hip, injury SO i know
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: that it was going to be my last. Year some
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: guys don't understand that because they feel like they still,
• 44:38
  Speaker 1: play and all of a, sudden the league don't want
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: you no, more teams don't want you no, more and
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: all of a, sudden you that balls just stopped. Bouncing
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: now what you're going to? Do and SO i was
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: already prepared for. THAT i went back To oklahoma and
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: kind of like it's over with, now picked up about
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty. POUNDS i was a fat. Kid,
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: YEAH i, PUT i. Put you know, WHAT i was
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: eating the same WAY i was IF i was, Playing
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: BUT i was burning calories WHEN i was. Playing and
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: SO i kept looking in the mirror and, said you,
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: know you all, Right you're all. Right then it wasn't
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: until this old lady's telling. ME i went to this event
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: In milwaukee and she looked at, me and they, say
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Where john. Starts she looked at, me, so, yeah it
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: looks like, him but just a little chubby. DOG i was,
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: like what. Oh WHEN i got back on that. FLY
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: i went home through all this stuff off my lift
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: school AND i just, started, like well about two months
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: straight and just the drop. Weight. Yeah but then The
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: knicks came and offered me this. Position And i'm very
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: thankful that they came and offered me this position because
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: it's right up my. ALLEY i get a chance to
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: deal with the. COMMUNITY i get a chance to deal
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: with our former, players be on the marketing side of.
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: It it's it's just a great position for, me you,
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: know and it gives allows me the freedom to do
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: what do WHAT i do outside of outside of the.
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: Organization So i'm.
• 46:08
  Speaker 4: Thankful but, well where can people come check you out
• 46:11
  Speaker 4: of the, dealershi BECAUSE i know people gonna be, LIKE
• 46:13
  Speaker 4: i want to take a touchdown.
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: With ye this this call over there and say job
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: gonna be, there and they give you the. Date i'm
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: gonna be. There come see. Me but not even If
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: i'm not, there just come see. Me we Got ford
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: starts for The queen's on h On Northern boulevard and
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: and Uh john starts uh kill on the hillside and
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: And Queen's.
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  Speaker 3: Okay we're joining, us.
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: Brother, yeah this has been great AND i just like
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: to wish everybody here the most. SUCCESS i loved. It
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: what's JUST i.
• 46:48
  Speaker 6: Dropped my book Today parents and Co parents and it's
• 46:51
  Speaker 6: my very first book, song a memoir on.
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  Speaker 3: Co parents and thank.
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  Speaker 1: You so you're. Welcome thank, You.
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  Speaker 4: We appreciate you for joining. Us that's a positive energy
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  Speaker 4: sent to the next two because we need a.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: Chip, yeah we need we need. Everybody LIKE i, said,
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: fans y'all know what to do tonight when you're, there
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: lift my Man michael. Up, okay, okay but.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: There you have. It It's John. Starks it's The Breakfast.
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  Speaker 3: Club good, morning hold every.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: Day, wake click your glass.
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  Speaker 3: Up The Breakfast.
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: Club you don't finish for.
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  Speaker 6: Y'all.
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  Speaker 2: Done