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- 0:17And away we go. Welcome in everybody, It's time again, Episode four
- 0:21hundred and seventy eight of Three Guys Before the Game, And we got a
- 0:26good one good, like a really quadruple good. Think Quinn Tupple good,
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- 0:35picked you a good one. Yahoo's Dan Wetzel is our special guest on Three
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- 1:33dot com. All right, let's just jump right in. Our guest.
- 1:41Our guest coming up here. Dan Wetzel of Yahoo has unintentionally he has made
- 1:48people for the last several years think that I might be a little bit off.
- 1:55You might be I might be a little off because I listened to his
- 1:57podcast College Football Inquire while I walk my dog in the morning. And what
- 2:05happens is I'll be walking so it's kind of like the rail oftentimes on the
- 2:08rail trail, and I'll laugh out loud and people like I'm walking my dog
- 2:13and I'll just say ha ha ha. Like like multiple times people have kind
- 2:15of looked at me to give you that eye. What the hell is matter
- 2:17that? Do you acknowledge? I point your headphones. I just kind of
- 2:21I just kind of keep on going, sad, nutty guy, I already
- 2:23think you're off anyway. It's you. It's your fault, Wetzel. I
- 2:25just told you. I mean, you're the only the only transgression in the
- 2:30neighborhood. I apologize. Otherwise you are a picture of normalcy and behavior.
- 2:39Yeah, sure, absolutely so. Dan. I think the last time we
- 2:45had you on was when Death to the BCS came out, and it was
- 2:52fantastic. Peace. Looking into the bowl industry, which is obviously changed in
- 2:58large part, at least the format of it, I think there's probably still
- 3:00obviously a lot of side deals and links and things like that. And I
- 3:06mean I was looking at your bio here just to kind of put a little
- 3:08perspective. Man, man, young man, you've done well, young man,
- 3:15You've you've done pretty well for yourself there glory. Well, you're not
- 3:23that old, so like I was also doing that. So you're a U
- 3:25mass grad, so like when you John Caliperry was into the midst of getting
- 3:31the thing going right when you were an undergrad. Fair. Yeah, I
- 3:38was a cover of the team. Yeah, I'm in the video where Cheney
- 3:40tries to kill him. Oh you were there that day? Oh yeah,
- 3:45classic. I think that's why I became a sports writer. I'm like,
- 3:47this is fantastic. After these good games, the coaches try to strangle each
- 3:51other. I gotta do this. They see like, yeah, I'm there,
- 3:54I stand up, I stand up and getting the way i'm and I'm
- 3:59like, I make no effort to like break up the fight for let's let's
- 4:02go. I didn't know what an octagon was at the time or you know,
- 4:06but I would have helped construct one if we could have had it.
- 4:09Did it did it change the lead? Did it change the lead for your
- 4:12story? I'm pretty sure? Yeah, yeah, I think the game didn't
- 4:16really matter too much after that. Yeah, it was. It was funny
- 4:20because that was before Twitter. There was no like live internet broadcasts of press
- 4:25conferences like it's ninety like four maybe something like that, and so it was
- 4:30just sort of this, uh, this thing happened, and like nobody knew
- 4:34what happened except everyone was there. I mean there was video obviously, but
- 4:39that wasn't gonna get played until like the six o'clock news now like instantaneously it'd
- 4:44be everywhere it ended, And I remember everyone staring there and looking at each
- 4:47other like did that just happen? Did like did John Cheney just come in
- 4:51and say I'm gonna kill you? You know? And we're all we're like,
- 4:55we rewatched, what do you got? Like? Local there was like
- 4:58a couple of local news stations there like it wasn't and we're like, I
- 5:00cannot believe what I just saw. So it was Yeah, So I was
- 5:03there. Yeah, John calf he's a lot of WVU teams playoff in great
- 5:11games, great teams, Yeah, Stale catlet every Yeah. So he,
- 5:14I mean, he turned the entire thing because you know Curry Hicks Cage at
- 5:16that. I mean, it was the track, there were cinders, it
- 5:18was dusty, it was dirty, and he just like he revolutionized everything in
- 5:23that league. And as a result of that, everyone hated him as far
- 5:26as the coaches go, because he just came in and did everything different and
- 5:29all of a sudden, the team they thought they were going to get two
- 5:30wins against every year turned that whole thing around. And he could also probably
- 5:35make the point that you know, John was a futurist in the NIL business
- 5:40and and that that that's what it was, that's what it took. So
- 5:45anyway, let's jump in alleged with all due respect, allegedly. So,
- 5:51man, I was thinking to you on this a week ago Friday, and
- 5:56everything imploded, and you guys have followed this so closely through the years.
- 6:00But despite the fact of all the hey, this might happen, and this
- 6:03might happen, and this might happen, it actually did happen. We saw
- 6:06the absolute implosion of the PAC twelve When it actually happened. Did you have
- 6:15any surprise at all? Did you have that moment where you said, my
- 6:18goodness, this is actually happening, or had you come to terms with it?
- 6:24No? I mean, I think even though you know it could happen,
- 6:27when you watch one hundred and eight year old conference, basically you know,
- 6:31and I don't know if anyone seen the movie Oppenheimer, but I think
- 6:33it's sort of like they built the atomic bomb, and then they sort of
- 6:38like, wait, we built this thing, Wait you're gonna use it,
- 6:41and it's like, you know, there was still like that stunningness. So
- 6:45it's just like, what are we doing and why are we doing it?
- 6:48And like the PAC twelve is really going to go away? And it's been
- 6:56like this. It's been the slow steps where all of a sudden you sit
- 7:00there and go right Oregon and the big ten kind of makes sense and it's
- 7:02like, no, it doesn't, but it does, and that's where we're
- 7:05at. It was somewhat surprising. I think I broke the original story.
- 7:11The Big Ten was looking at these said Oregon and Washington and maybe even Callen
- 7:14Stanford, and it was like wow, I like what are we doing?
- 7:20And you really think about a lot of a Big Ten schools, like why
- 7:24do you even want these schools? You already are the richest conference, you
- 7:30know, why what do these schools really add? And at this point,
- 7:33it's almost like a land grab and like fear has overtaken everything where everyone's just
- 7:40grabbing stuff, whether it has a good consequence or not. You understand why
- 7:46the SEC says, hey, we want Oklahoma and Texas. They fit in
- 7:50our grouping. They're huge schools and huge programs. When the Big Ten now
- 7:56has four West Coast teams, you just go, Man, TV is running
- 8:00everything, and why is the conference? Why are these presidents going along with
- 8:03it? Well, you just hit it right there, TV running everything.
- 8:07You guys had a great quote from Scott Barnes, the Oregon State Athletic director
- 8:11and one of your recent articles, and I'll read that real quick. It
- 8:13says he has quoted Scott Barnes is saying he's furious said conference realignment just doesn't
- 8:20make sense anymore. What this enterprise was built on was regionality and rivalries.
- 8:24That's gone, that's leaving the PAC twelve. Some of the most special pieces
- 8:28about our model is the regionality of competition and rivalries. Those things are forgotten
- 8:33and we've certainly seen that here with Pitt going off the schedule, the hundred
- 8:37years of a tradition against Sarahcuse, all those have gone away. We've seen
- 8:39that. Dan. What's amazing to me, though, is we do all
- 8:43these shows. You talked all these people around the sport, and they echo
- 8:46what Barnes said, even admitted current administrators echo what Barnes said, but they
- 8:50can't help themselves from chasing those extra millions. Do we ever get back to
- 8:54the regionality part of this? Funlikely? This is TV so Fox in particular
- 9:05about Fox, ESPN, CBS, they're sitting there saying, Okay, how
- 9:09do we get as many games to have the highest ratings as possible? And
- 9:13this isn't different than even five and ten years ago. Everything is about getting
- 9:18big numbered games. There was like eight hundred FBF football games last year,
- 9:24only five through an audience of over ten million, and only twenty two telling
- 9:31those five and at seventeen others didn't did a an audience of over five And
- 9:37that's when TV is making money. They're really making money five you know,
- 9:41Bio State, Michigan, seventeen million people watch. That's that's that's what's driving
- 9:45this. All they care about is how many games can we get that are
- 9:50over five million, over ten million, or whatever number they want to come
- 9:54up with. But it's a very small amount. Right now, these networks
- 9:58are increasingly under huge pressure for sports to deliver. It's not just the status
- 10:03quo is good. Hey, we make a good money on sports. We
- 10:05need to make more because no one's watching Foxes prime time shows, right,
- 10:13Foxes cable, you know Fox News, all those qua cutting the cord.
- 10:16The profits there are dwindling. Everything's dwindling. So this is huge pressure on
- 10:22sports. Get bigger and bigger and bigger. If you're Fox, your ESPN,
- 10:26whatever, you're sitting there saying, I need as many huge matchups as
- 10:31I can get. I need Texas. I can't have Texas play in Iowa
- 10:33State because Texas Texas Iowa State or Texas West Virginia is going to get me
- 10:39one point eight millions. If I got Texas play at LSU, I'm gonna
- 10:43get six millions, and that's where I make my money. So everything is
- 10:46about getting as many brands in as possible. So what happened with the Pack
- 10:50twelve. Nobody wanted the PAC twelve. They wanted four schools in the PAC
- 10:54twelve. They really wanted three. But USC, Oregon, and Washington are
- 10:58a TV rot nobody else out there is. UCLA had to come along with
- 11:03the Big Ten. And what Fox, which runs the Big Ten, did
- 11:07was they went instead of having to pay for all twelve schools in the past
- 11:13twelve, they basically by destabilizing and having this all go down, they pluck
- 11:18the four they want and then they're putting them up against the Big ten things.
- 11:22So they don't care that there's an eighteen team league. They don't care
- 11:24that Iowa and Illinois might play, you know less often. They don't care
- 11:31if the softball team has to fly all over the country. They care about
- 11:35when we get USC and Ohio State, we're gonna get eleven million viewers,
- 11:39we get Oregon, even Oregon playing Penn State, we're gonna get five point
- 11:43five Like that's all they care about. How many brands can we get in
- 11:46and that's it. So when that's the driver, nothing else matters, and
- 11:52so they sit there and go ask sorry, Washington State Starry softball team,
- 11:56Sorry if you know. One of the things you have is like, let's
- 12:01say you're in you live in you know, suburbs of Chicago, and you're
- 12:05an Illinois alum and your neighbors an Indiana alament. Every year the two teams
- 12:09plays kind of fun. Well, you might play every three four years.
- 12:13Now, tough break. We don't care. So the people running the sport
- 12:16and it's TV don't care about the things that you I most I would imagine
- 12:24most of the listeners here care about. And I don't know how in the
- 12:26world you get in the end. In the end, money always wins out,
- 12:31and the money is on their side, not on our side. All
- 12:33right, fair, I mean I'm not one hundred percent against it, but
- 12:37you know what I'm saying. Okay, fair enough. So then that begs
- 12:39the very next question. Then, at what point do we move along with?
- 12:43All right, consolidation already happened in Washington State and Oregon State are left
- 12:46out. When do we get to further consolidation where you're looking across the table
- 12:50at Vanderbilt and saying, why are you getting eighty five million if it's all
- 12:52about big matchups? When does someone get booted from an existing league? I
- 12:58don't know, but it would be extremely naive to think it doesn't happen.
- 13:03And I've been saying this for a long time. Consider the Big Ten.
- 13:07They added New Rutgers and Maryland because why not? Because they had great athletics
- 13:15departments. So the Maryland was pretty good in basketball and some stuff. But
- 13:20they did it because they would back whatever many years ago was ten years ago.
- 13:26They could jam the Big ten network onto basic cable subscriptions and get a
- 13:31dollar twenty five from every house or whatever the number is from every house in
- 13:35New Jersey and Maryland. And that was going to make so much money that
- 13:39it was worth adding these two programs. Well. As basic cable becomes less
- 13:43and less of a thing, and you know, the people get rid of
- 13:48it every year, and we all know chord cutting and all that stuff.
- 13:52You wonder when they're sitting around, going what do you do here? Like,
- 13:56what's your job? We had? Your job was to get us money.
- 14:00Now you're getting us less money. People aren't buying they tend network anymore.
- 14:05What do you do you're we can beat you. That's like one thing.
- 14:09But nobody really wants to watch Marilander Rutgers and the numbers that we need.
- 14:13And so you wonder at what point do they say, look, we're
- 14:16throwing you out. We brought you in your useful for a while, we're
- 14:18throwing you out now. There is enormous number of contracts and research, especially
- 14:26in the Big Ten, like you know, research projects that you know,
- 14:30inter connect all the schools and and and different things. And they may still
- 14:33sit there and say, it's worth it for Michigan and Ohio State to be
- 14:39involved in New Jersey because we get X number of students from there. So
- 14:41there's there's more to it than that. But it's certainly be completely naive for
- 14:46any team in any conference to sit around and go, oh, we're good.
- 14:50Yeah, Ohio State's good. Ohio State and Michigan aren't going to break
- 14:54up, right, but everybody else, you know, Alabama is pretty good
- 14:58shape. Everybody else I don't know, And that's that will be the true
- 15:03armageddon if they ever get to that point. But man, we're it's stages
- 15:07of armageddon, and it's your Oregon State or Washington State right now, you
- 15:11know it hit or callen Stanford it hits totally agree? Did I say,
- 15:16with all due respect before I said Vanderbilt Vanderbilt? There you go ahead,
- 15:22go ahead? So you know, Dan, I wonder though, if there's
- 15:26not gonna be an inflection point, because as you say, all television cares
- 15:31about is the attractions and the eyeballs. Okay, but that also has some
- 15:35limitations because you're ruling out a great number of schools, a great number of
- 15:41colleges universities. How long before members of Congress say, you know what,
- 15:48hang on a second, we're gonna call these executives before and we're gonna have
- 15:50a hearing and say, what's going on here? Because the school in my
- 15:54state or the school I went to now is getting shut out? Do you
- 15:58ever see that happening? Well, you know, this would be something that
- 16:02you would think could happen, certainly in Congress, loves, but would they
- 16:04ask? I don't know. It's anytime you're counting on Congress to do anything,
- 16:10you know, good luck, We like even you take Oregon, Oregan
- 16:19is making a move to the Big ten. They're literally leaving behind organ State
- 16:23and Oregon State, just like they just redid their stadium for a couple hundred
- 16:27million. They're going to have their television revenue go from like thirty million to
- 16:32four million. Like they're in enormous debt problems. They're going to have to
- 16:37have the Oregon State University is going to have to bail out their athletic department.
- 16:41Presumably, however this plays out, so that's real money. You might
- 16:45have to hit students up hard, or you may have to you're taking money
- 16:48from something else. And yet the politicians in Oregon are not saying, you,
- 16:52wait, hold on, Oregon, You've got to help out organ State.
- 16:56But that isn't sustainable. I don't see how that's sustainable. That all
- 17:00these schools get left behind and have these financial problems. And I don't see
- 17:03how that just goes like, well, okay, well it's TV said.
- 17:07So I don't know, but if a if a private business wants to make
- 17:12make a move, that Congress really stop it. Now. I know that
- 17:18public schools a lot of them, I don't know. I think I think
- 17:22you're right, but I just I just don't know. You have a very
- 17:26good point, and I'm not one hundred percent sure that you're not correct.
- 17:30I just I just I just wonder if it would get to that point.
- 17:33Here is one thing I would say about conference play or this this idea that
- 17:37one day we'd only have forty teams playing college football and they'd all play each
- 17:42other, right, because that is TV ideal. It's the NFL Mahomes versus
- 17:48Burrow this week and it's next week. Josh Allen, could you know every
- 17:52team? You know, everybody, everybody watches all the games, but college
- 17:56football needs week or two teams for the power conferences, the power teams to
- 18:03beat up on. Nobody wants to play a neat grinder like the NFL because
- 18:08it's not set up that way. And part of the appeal is why,
- 18:15you know, why does why can the Ohio State distill their stadium every single
- 18:19week? Because every year, four hundred years, basically the one ten ten
- 18:22games, like it's a tradition of winning. We need to win. That's
- 18:26what builds us up. And eventually, if you're only playing each other like
- 18:32the NFL, someone's going, you know, two and two and fourteen,
- 18:37two and fifteen, and you go, gosh, we're a disaster. We
- 18:41fall apart and go okay, but here's what we do. We make sure
- 18:44we build you back up because you get the number one pick. Here's Jacksonville.
- 18:47You stink for two years. Well you've got Trevor Lawrence. Now you're
- 18:49in a playoff game in college football unless you're going to do a draft,
- 18:53which seems impossible, and I mean that'd just be horrific. Recruiting is part
- 18:59of the fun. The best players. The Trevor Lawrence just lines up to
- 19:03go to the eleven win team, right, he doesn't ever want to go
- 19:07to the one they don't sign with. Nobody signs with Banderfield. Trevor Lawrence
- 19:11doesn't sit there at a high school acrew and go I go to Clemson,
- 19:14or I'd go to Georgia Tech. Right, I'm gonna be e think I'll
- 19:17pick the last place team. Nobody does that, so you would end up
- 19:21stacking up in the wrong way where it's like you'd have you'd have schools they
- 19:25are winning two games forever and then they have no fans and it'd just be
- 19:29a bead. So there's more to it at play that can counteract just TV
- 19:33money. But I don't know. TV money is a powerful thing. The
- 19:37Big ten didn't need any more money. I don't even know they're making any
- 19:41more money off of Oregon in Washington. You're just grabbing them because maybe they'll
- 19:45make more money later. That's what's really a little terrifying. I'm not even
- 19:49show this works on the bottom line. And I have no idea why the
- 19:53middle of the big ten, see your Michigan State or Perdue, why do
- 20:00you grab two schools? You're adding four schools right from the past twelve At
- 20:04least three of them are better programs than you. That's three more teams,
- 20:10like you have to climb over just to get to the point where you then
- 20:12have to try to climb over Penn State or hif State Michigan, Like,
- 20:15why do you want these teams? I wouldn't want three new top teams.
- 20:19I'd want some teams that, hey, give me some hope. No,
- 20:23it's absolutely well said. So along that line, it always is the money.
- 20:26We've seen that. Now the next question the next generation of this,
- 20:30as we move toward the maturity, so to speak, or the continued evolution
- 20:36of nil, how far away do you think or do you think we ever
- 20:40get to some form of student athletes quotation marks being employees of the universities.
- 20:48Is that a decade decades or is that shorter than that away? In some
- 20:53form, I would think it's a ways because they're that's like a third rail
- 21:00they don't want to deal with. But the way things move so quickly,
- 21:04I'm not sure it's certainly possible. One thing they really need to do,
- 21:11and again I don't think it's probably likely, but we need to have a
- 21:15situation in college athletics who we're talking about football and then we're talking about everyone
- 21:19else, maybe men's and women's basketball, but football. You can make the
- 21:26case they should be employees. I may not agree with it, but you
- 21:30can make that case. But when you sit there and say, okay,
- 21:34Pittsburgh Steelers have a football team, but they don't also have twenty three other
- 21:40teams with a bunchique people who are an employee, right, it just doesn't
- 21:45make any sense. Just be like, well, we now have to make
- 21:47sure that our rifle team are employees, and you know, well that's not
- 21:52really the point of this, right or our crew team or our softball or
- 21:56whatever it is. So you wish you could do that. My guess is
- 22:02yeah, the push for employees will be will be a thing. I will
- 22:04say that in some ways I prefer they don't become employees. I prefer that
- 22:11they just we just let the open market with nil go, and you know,
- 22:17the market will hash itself out. I'm more of a free market person.
- 22:19I understand that not that many people are that anymore, but that's just
- 22:23my opinion. But I will say if they if I'm if I'm a an
- 22:27ad, it might be easier to have them be employees and part of a
- 22:32union. And I say that, and I know when you say the players
- 22:37will be in a union, people just like it's a visceral reaction, like
- 22:40oh, now, a union is only as powerful as its ability to strike
- 22:47cause a work stoppage. And without the ability to cause a work stoppage,
- 22:52it has almost no leverage at all in anything it does. And so a
- 22:57union can work when it's you know one, you know, a Chevy plant
- 23:03in Ohio in one town, and you get all the people to say,
- 23:07look, we want five bucks more an hour, we're gonna strike. And
- 23:11those people have a lot of commonality. They live with each other, they
- 23:15go to church each other, kids play baseball together, everyone's making the same
- 23:18amount. They're very similar. And then it's still hard to get somebody to
- 23:22strike. A college football union would never be able to pull off a strike.
- 23:27You're talking twelve thousand people all over the country, all sorts of different
- 23:33things, all sorts of different interests. Some kids will be like, good
- 23:37you guys, go on strike, I'll get to play now. I'm not
- 23:40following my teammates like you would never be able to get any solidarity. It
- 23:42would be the weakest union. How are you getting? How are you getting?
- 23:48You know, I don't know any how you getting. J. J.
- 23:49McCarthy at Michigan get going a strike right now? Because kids lived his
- 23:52whole life to be I'm gonna be the starting quarterback we go in the National.
- 23:56They didn't strike it, so I think that you the end would be
- 24:00extremely weak and it would actually make it very easy sort of schools to get
- 24:03this under control and be like this is what I'm dealing with. But the
- 24:07schools are one hundred percent hesitant on any of that. I just I don't
- 24:11think if they do go that route it'll be that bad. But I would,
- 24:15but I understand why school don't want to do it. Let's talk ACC
- 24:18for a minute, Dan, there's chaos in that league as well. Florida
- 24:22State making some extreme noise inside the house that they need more money, they
- 24:26need on equal revenue share, they're going to leave. What ultimately happens here
- 24:30short term and in long term within the ACC. You know, it seems
- 24:37like this grant of rights that runs through twenty thirty six is airtight because if
- 24:41Florida State could get out of the grant of rights, it would get out
- 24:45of the grant of rates, and we have not seen it get out of
- 24:48the grant rates. So it's sort of like, hey, we want to
- 24:49leave, We're gonna get out. They would just do it. So I
- 24:55think there is stability for the near term, and there really aren't any other
- 25:00television properties out there that are going to cause either the Big ten or the
- 25:06SEC to try to expand. The SEC is quite happy where they are.
- 25:11They just added Texas and Oklahoma. Their leaves makes sense geographically culturally, they
- 25:17win all the titles, They've got plenty of money. They're not really scared.
- 25:19Now if they could get a shot at North Carolina, Clemson or Florida
- 25:26State or Notre Dame, that might be different. North Carolina was all sudden
- 25:32free because the a SEC blew up and to get Notre Dame in North Carolina,
- 25:34the SEC probably go to eighteen, but until some of those schools are
- 25:37available or interested in. Notre Dame isn't until it absolutely has to. I
- 25:42don't see anything going on there, So I think the ACEC is pretty solid.
- 25:47But at some point Florida State and something has to happen the ACEC to
- 25:52make Florida State or Clemson or whatever, any of these schools say this is
- 25:56where I want to be. This makes sense, and I don't know how
- 26:00you get there, especially as year after year the money differential stacks up,
- 26:07and obviously the ads are very concerned about the money. I'm less concerned.
- 26:12I think you can win with less money. We've seen it over and over
- 26:18certain cultures of a team and where your geography and like, you know,
- 26:23Cincinnati has had a great run the last ten years, Indiana has not.
- 26:26Indiana's got way more money than Cincinnati. But Cincinnati want while they had a
- 26:30great coach and they you know, one year, Cincinnati had eight NFL draft
- 26:36picks in one year. Right, How they do that wasn't because they had
- 26:40a ton of money. It's because they identified you know, soft gardener for
- 26:44Detroit to begin the best cornerback and in football, you know, so there's
- 26:47other ways to win than just money. But the ads are are obsessed with
- 26:51it, so they're they're I don't think there's a long answer that I don't
- 26:55know if I answered it, but I think there's stability for now, but
- 26:57long term, I gotta figure some way to make Florida state cons in North
- 27:02Carolina most places want to stay. Great insight, man, We really appreciate
- 27:07your time. I'm gonna let you let your slide. We want you to
- 27:10know that you're in our triumvirate of those to follow. As you know,
- 27:15Dan, conference affiliation stories are trying to like follow a snake, right.
- 27:21You just can't get your hands on it. But you are one of the
- 27:23three that we recommend we go. We go Wetzel family forty. If you
- 27:32want to believe it, well, Ross Della Ross, Yeah, I guess
- 27:36Ross would be Ross would be a player to be named later? Is that
- 27:37what you would go with? He's writing, he's writing, Yeah, he's
- 27:41right. Hold on, Can I can I get some clarification from Wetzel because
- 27:42you make me nuts with this? Yeah? You you have ceased calling a
- 27:47conference realignment and I don't know why you call it conference affiliation, I've started
- 27:51calling a conference consolidation. Dan, what do you refer to this whole thing
- 27:53as a disaster? Conference disaster? That's more to the power. No,
- 28:03it's definitely not realignment. Yeah, I think it's heading towards consolidations question because
- 28:07we keep losing. I mean, we had six let me give you one
- 28:11hopeful thing. Okay, let me give you one hopeful thing. But obviously
- 28:14had me off for death and the BCS whenever. That was a while ago.
- 28:17But I've always thought, once they get this playoff going and people see
- 28:19the value of that automatic bid and the money that can be generated by getting
- 28:26in the playoff, competing every year for a playoff, having an exciting team,
- 28:30late November games that have playoff implications, that some of that can counteract
- 28:37the television money Clemson or take Florida State. Florida State has a chance this
- 28:44year to win the ACC and in a year from now they'll be in the
- 28:47playoffs. Every year. They could line up and say, you know what,
- 28:48we've got a pretty good chance of winning winning this league, and we
- 28:52can get to the playoffs, and we're playing late November games that matter.
- 28:56We're gonna sell out and we might get a home game on our campus in
- 28:59Tallahapi. This is fantastic. We can make a lot of money through boosters
- 29:03and T shirts and parking and all this stuff. And he said, well,
- 29:07you should go to the SEC and go Gosh, if I know the
- 29:10SEC, we're never winning it. Maybe maybe Oregon is a better example or
- 29:15Washington, Like, are you really gonna get in the top four the Big
- 29:18ten because Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, and USC are kind of
- 29:23you know, three out of three out of four of them are gonna be
- 29:26good every year. So what are your if you had stayed in the Pac
- 29:30twelve, especially at how with USC gone, you're gonna make the playoffs like
- 29:34two out every four years, three out, you know, and you're always
- 29:37going to be in it. So I do hope this playoff provides some stability,
- 29:41like I would I would think for a West Virginia you can win the
- 29:45Big twelve, or you can come in second and make a playoff if you
- 29:48get all your ducks in the line. If somehow West Virginia got in the
- 29:52SEC or the Big ten, it's a steep client totally, totally is really
- 30:00happy where they're at like Gonzaga, they played basketball in the West Coast Conference,
- 30:04and they're quite content because they can recruit lottery picks and they can make
- 30:08the Final Four and they're a big deal. Had they ever jumped to the
- 30:12Pack twelve, I don't know if it would work that well. Totally agree
- 30:15with you. But here's the concern, and you're already starting to see it.
- 30:18Greg Sanky wants fourteen to the twelve spots to go to. They're already
- 30:22wanted to change the Formula Dame. We haven't even got to the playoffs yet
- 30:26and there's already talking about changing the damn thing. Absolutely, but let's Greg
- 30:30sank You came up with this plan with with Notre Dame and the Big twelve
- 30:34in the Mountain West, and he put out they were willing to agree to
- 30:38like a ten or twelve year deal, twelve teams, six automatic bids,
- 30:44six conference champions. And everyone was mad at Greg sank you in the SEC
- 30:48for taking Texas and Oklahoma, which every league would have done. And if
- 30:53you didn't take Texas and Oklahoma, and you would literally should be fired as
- 30:56a commissioner. And the AC see the Big Ten and the PAC twelve decide
- 31:02to form the alliance and got all mad and they all rejected the playoff plan.
- 31:07Now, obviously, so West Virginia loses out on that, but like
- 31:11there would have been six six spots right now if they had just agreed to
- 31:17that plan. The acc PAC twelve have ways to shoot themselves on the foot
- 31:19that are just mine. I was screaming, take the deal. This is
- 31:23the this is the stabilizer. And I already were down to five. But
- 31:27I will say, if you're the big you're in the big twelve, like
- 31:30West Virginia. Okay, there's five you to win the league. But if
- 31:34you make coming second, you know, maybe you can. You can get
- 31:37in there. You've got to have those five automated pins. You cannot let
- 31:42If it's just twelve at large, then there's problem. This has to be
- 31:48the deathline. If you don't have access to the championship, you're you're cooked.
- 31:55You're cooked, and so as and as a sport. So if I'm
- 31:59the Big twel the a sec anybody left? I am? That is the
- 32:01number one priority right now. Who's is getting the big ten and the sect
- 32:07to long term agree to five automatic bids outstanding? Hey man, really appreciate
- 32:13it. Dan Wetzel College football in quir follow him on Yahoo Sports, as
- 32:17he said he was, He's at front and center of breaking these stories.
- 32:21We didn't even I mean I mentioned it a little bit earlier when you when
- 32:23we first chatted that Kerchival over here in Thamil have been in an absolute death
- 32:30blow struggle as to who's going to beat who on these certain stories that unfortunately
- 32:34developed in West Virginia this offseason, and Hoppies held his own. Hoppy,
- 32:38are you scoring a two two? Hoppy two two? At this point it's
- 32:42two two right now, but yes, Dan, two two two, but
- 32:47number one in our hearts. Appreciate it, Thank you very much. Take
- 32:52take Peete down, Take Peete down. No, i'p you had some huge
- 32:57stories you cann't leave Hoppy stories were like You're like, wait, this can't
- 33:01be true him. I'd be like, there's no way there's the true story.
- 33:08And then I'm like, wow is recording Like go look at his letter?
- 33:12Oh my god, I don't I would hope. I don't want to.
- 33:15I really don't want to put it out on True's my career. It's
- 33:22not like it's not like okay, I don't know so and so is going
- 33:25to be the next coach at the school, Like okay, it makes that
- 33:29probably happen. Like I mean, some of the stories were like, oh
- 33:31my goodness, I wasn't expecting that today that yeah, yeah, thanks Dan,
- 33:38all right, my man, be good. Thank you so much again,
- 33:42Dan Less appreciate it. You know what I tell you, He really
- 33:47and bred you guys, you talk about this a lot. I mean,
- 33:50he really just nailed it unequivocally. Like television is making these calls. Television
- 33:55wants attractions, Television wants eyeballs. I mean that that's what this is all
- 34:00about. Nobody cares. You know, do you think anybody with ESPN,
- 34:05like you said, or Fox says, you know, the old oak and
- 34:08bucket they're going to battle for that said. It's just I mean, the
- 34:10people at Indiana and Purdue care that they care. That's where it's gotten out
- 34:15of That's where it's gotten out of whack. Those few TV executives in the
- 34:19room setting up the games that he talked about have overwhelmed the vast majority of
- 34:24everybody else around it that says, no, we like the Floyd of Rosedale
- 34:29with Iowa, Minnesota You may not be watching that in New York, but
- 34:31they're watching that. That matters that Oregon State, that one hundred and fifty
- 34:36three million dollars stadium renovation. Now, what are they doing. They're sitting
- 34:38there holding those here's those pains. They don't care. They don't care.
- 34:43And at some point, because they're under pressure too, at some point though,
- 34:46the schools are going to have to take that back. Now, what
- 34:50allows that to happen? What ad has the juice? What president has the
- 34:53juice to take less money? You can't in this environment. That's what's so,
- 34:59that's why they're obsessed with the dollars, and they have to chase the
- 35:00dollars, and they have to take the dollars. But it really is hurting
- 35:05the football side of it in particular from rivalries and the rest of the sports
- 35:08in total. That's why I said, And I know that when you talk
- 35:13about a government involvement, people start to start to get freaked out. But
- 35:16I think, seriously, if you're Oregon State and and there was testimony before
- 35:22a you know, a panel of Congress, a committee, and you have
- 35:28television executives under oath, and you're asking a television executive do you realize the
- 35:30decision you made is leaving Oregon State one hundred fifty million dollars in dead Are
- 35:35you aware of that? Are you aware that that action, what that has
- 35:37done to them? I mean, I think there's god, I don't see
- 35:40how this is sustainable. Well, ill, due respect, I mean,
- 35:43you live in that world every day. How's that world going? Is there
- 35:45a lot of consensus building in that world? There are all the hearings that
- 35:49are going on those those accomplishing a lot. Federal government got involved in the
- 35:52pain for basketball recruits. How that work out that they got involved that do
- 35:59anything. I'm just saying that I don't see how this continues this way.
- 36:02I don't either. I don't know that you have the I don't know that
- 36:05the Congress is the answer They've got to I'm kind of with Dan on that
- 36:07they've got to show me they're the answer to something before I think they're the
- 36:08answer at anything. I'll due respect to that. Dan said you made a
- 36:12good point. I mean, he said you made a good point. And
- 36:15but to his point as well, could you see Congress slapping ESPN or Fox
- 36:22for doing or being involved? Like he said, they're private court they're private
- 36:25companies. Well they but Congress can do anything at once. If you call
- 36:29I mean they call up that auto executives they call up all the time and
- 36:34get into test fire. I'm saying it gets their attention, would get their
- 36:36attention. Why aren't the Oregon politicians standing on their head until Oregon doesn't Leaven
- 36:42followed that. Everybody there just says, okay, okay, okay, okay,
- 36:46we're good. I mean, remember when I mean, shouldn't it start
- 36:50there? If politics was going to be the answer, shouldn't have started in
- 36:53Oregon or Washington politics, or in California politics. To let usc in UCLA,
- 37:00nobody's done anything there. It used to be a threat. You know
- 37:01when Virginia Tech got into the ACC it was because politicians in Virginia said,
- 37:07Hey, Virginia, UVA, you're taking tech that's gone away. Look at
- 37:12Oklahoma and Oklahoma state like Oklahoma said see yeah, we're going to the SEC.
- 37:16Nothing that was it. Well remember Mitch McConnell Joe mansion. But it
- 37:20hits on the whole big twelveth thing. Absolutely. So Look, I don't
- 37:24know, I was just speculating. It's just it's just I don't see how
- 37:28this keeps going this way, leaving so many schools. As I've said,
- 37:31the powerful, the less powerful, and the powerless, because the number of
- 37:36the number of powerless schools is growing. Okay, this is easy for me
- 37:38to say because it's not West Virginia related, And I would have a totally
- 37:42different slant if this West Virginia was on the burner here front burner. But
- 37:45if you're Washington State and Oregon State and you end up let's say you end
- 37:50up in a Mountain West, a configuration of the Mountain lesson it combines,
- 37:53which becomes an easier league to win for them. Correct, if you get
- 37:57that college football playoff, those automatic birth coming through Oregon State could survive this
- 38:02because they go into a league that they can now win and compete it more
- 38:07evenly, get to a couple of playoffs out of that league, and now
- 38:10they're right in the hunt. I think that's the way to survive. That
- 38:14was his point at the end there, like, Hey, Clemson and Florida
- 38:16or Florida State, like, just shush, when your league, you'll make
- 38:21your money, You'll be totally fine, Okay, but you're not of the
- 38:23access in And I'm with him, there. You've heard me say this before
- 38:27the twelve team came about. I kept saying that from a West Virginia perspective,
- 38:30is that's what you need. West Virginia is going to have trouble getting
- 38:34to a four team playoff, But twelve and an automatic birth out of the
- 38:37league, Okay, Now you've got a real chance or at least deeper into
- 38:40the season being around it. Washington State and Oregon State. Theoretically, if
- 38:45that happens and that league keeps an automatic berth, they might still be in
- 38:47the mix. There. The word is access. All we want as fans
- 38:52is access. If we have no access, if there's a dead end that
- 38:54we're driving down, we're out. We don't want it. If there's a
- 38:58glimmer of hope that I have that opportunity, that's what I want to be
- 39:04in. And so if the if the TV networks want to take those top
- 39:07matchups and put them together, fine, But the sport on a regional basis
- 39:12can exist with some of those smaller conferences that are getting left out. If
- 39:15they have access. For their winner, they get a ticket to the postseason
- 39:20part they're in. Yes, and then it becomes NCAA tournament ESK and I
- 39:22know everybody's screaming saying, well, what goes that? Do organ State's not
- 39:24gonna win the national title? Okay, it happens every March every mon Diego
- 39:29State. Were they in the final four this year? Yeah? Florida Atlantic,
- 39:32were they in the final four this year? Yeah? Because every year
- 39:35they start the season and they know they've got an opportunity. To me,
- 39:38that to me, is the way out of this mess for the school that
- 39:43still has to take the big money from the TV networks and has no choice.
- 39:45But you can preserve some of you can preserve more teams being able to
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- 41:07Check them out of Comax WV dot Com. Mountaineer football team took yesterday
- 41:13off practice. Today today's Monday for those of you that might be listening later,
- 41:16and school starts on the sixteenth, that's Wednesday. They're gonna keep going
- 41:22with their ten am practices as we said last week, so camp kind of
- 41:25still keeps going. They scrimmaged under the lights Saturday night, how to move
- 41:30it. We're gonna go seven thirty. They're gonna go seven thirty weather probably
- 41:35right. They were were concerned and bad. It was a bad It was
- 41:38a bad store. Yeah it was. It was water coming in my house.
- 41:44Excuse me, Yeah it did, Yeah, through the retaining wall.
- 41:49It's just I don't know. You're sitting there and it's storming like crazy.
- 41:52All of a sudden, you woke up in waters coming through the window.
- 41:53You go, oh my gosh, well did you have the window shut?
- 41:57Oh? Sopt something. It's always the details. It's always the details in
- 42:02life. Yeah. So now they're pretty much they got the tape from Saturday
- 42:08night. Now we're gonna get it too. Okay, here's the here's the
- 42:13two guys. Here, here's the two guys. Here. We're working with
- 42:15you, guys. Let's at some point you gotta make a call. Had
- 42:17a shocking, shocking, I tell you always shocking thing happened Friday. I
- 42:25was here in town, standing in the parking lot. Vehicle goes by me.
- 42:31The vehicle comes zipping by me. Pretty nice. Was a suburban expedition,
- 42:36whatever it was. Guy looks through the window at me in the passengers
- 42:39side, and I recognize him. He recognizes me anyways, Jowan Cider currently
- 42:46current assistant coach at Penn State up there up there in state college. And
- 42:52I thought, wait a minute, I thought, wait, na, no,
- 42:54there's no no way, wouldn't there's now you got kerchiv Alls invest the
- 43:00gative jeans all up. Now he's investigative reporter here from the day after day
- 43:05Yeah, state assistant coaching town. Yeah, what's he doing? I saw
- 43:07later in the day moving day daughter enrolling as a freshman here at the University
- 43:15state Land Grant Institution. Oh right, she grew up a good chunk here,
- 43:19so she's coming to school here. But it did blow me out.
- 43:22It went like wait a second, heading towards a state, what are you
- 43:27going? Do you want? What's going on here? So ran into a
- 43:35former mountain near tim Age over the weekend as well. He's he was a
- 43:39dude. He was a dude, and the over under on games he would
- 43:44play in the course of a season. With the new targeting rule two here
- 43:50to play two games in the year, because there'd be a there'd be a
- 43:52game, then there'd be a six game suspection. He'd played games seven then
- 43:57they just call it. The rest of the season, he did the so
- 43:59called launch that has now outlawed hit your right and affect. I mean he
- 44:07he administered Paine. You know how I knew and still to this day he
- 44:13just like that's just the way he is. So I was sitting there with
- 44:15Jed Drenning was there with me, and Jed said, uh, we said,
- 44:20you know, the targeting rule really went into effect because of a West
- 44:23Virginia player, Carl Joseph, when he absolutely detonated on D. D.
- 44:29Westbrook of Oklahoma on that sideline and you know, Jed, So Jedy takes
- 44:32out, Yeah, it's right here. You ever seen it? You ever
- 44:35seen it? Tim? So like age's watching this and he's looking at it.
- 44:39He's watching. He goes like someone who just found like a really super
- 44:45nice bottle of wine. He goes like, Oh, that's nice. That's
- 44:50that's when you know, like that's when you know, you go like and
- 44:52like he just kept watching, Oh that's really really nice. He really liked
- 44:58it. And he was he was a guy. I know, Tony,
- 45:00he was a walk on he I think he played quarterback maybe and Marrow walk
- 45:05hunter to this program and came in they needed a d back. Here's a
- 45:08guy who goes into the NFL. He he had a big You know,
- 45:13I have these fragments of memories brand they're not at all real linked together real
- 45:16well. I think West Virginia might have been trailing Maryland fourteen nothing and he
- 45:22had a big interception. Tony. He said he was just he just predated
- 45:27me. He just predated me. But he knocked a guy out from knocked
- 45:30her tight down at two hundred and sixty pound tight end. They happened.
- 45:34He happened to have that on his camera too. On his phone. He
- 45:37was like, yeah, did you see this one? And was like number
- 45:39forty four, number forty four. Maybe see Brad. They're just a little
- 45:45bits and pieces, bits and pieces. I gotta check that that could be.
- 45:47Chris Pekan was also there, and it takes Chris about four minutes into
- 45:52any conversation for him to let you know that he scored three touchdowns in one
- 45:57game against Louisville. Did he really? Yeah? He did, and he'll
- 46:00in the case. It just you just need to stay around, just need
- 46:02to stay around. Andra was over there too. Oh my god. Andre
- 46:07says he can run a four seven forty today today, I might take today.
- 46:13He said. Four said are you still are you still running track?
- 46:15He said yeah, he said, I ran six one fifties this morning.
- 46:19So he still still actively. He still thinks in his head that he's one
- 46:22day like someone's gonna call him. Dolphins are gonna call hey, let's hey
- 46:25Andre, either that or like us the US Olympic track team. Hey,
- 46:29look, we're looking for a guy. Yeah, you're looking for that somebody
- 46:31that third leg. I wonder why he isn't buy him for seven. I'll
- 46:36tell for seven, I'll take it. You take four to seven, I'll
- 46:37take him a Tony always doubts Undrew. Andrew comes from more than Tony gives
- 46:42him credit for. There may have been some fumbled conversations as well during the
- 46:45course and just saying just saying, you guys, ready to do a little
- 46:52something, Ready to do a little something stuff because we're tracking towards another four
- 46:57hour podcast here. I thought Wetzel was great. I don't know, I
- 47:00got to attack what's it was great? But we said we said we weren't
- 47:04gonna go as long. No, you said we shouldn't go as long,
- 47:07and I said, yeah, you're probably right. Now we're going as long.
- 47:12Yeah, and as soon as I can find Tony he's over here,
- 47:15taking four hours to find the music I know I had for the show and
- 47:19everything do it. I don't think I don't keep turning the wrong pot down.
- 47:50I don't think Dan Wetzels. I don't think Dan Wetzel's podcast has a
- 47:52song. And they don't have a beer either. No, I'm selling him
- 47:57a four coffee. I'm selling No, I don't do coffee. I'm sending
- 48:00him a four pack of Kircheville. I'm glad that would be good. I'm
- 48:02gonna send it to him. Can you send that across state lines? Yeah?
- 48:07I don't know. They a lot of other stuff, like you're playing
- 48:12for the tailgate? Yeare a podcast shut down because host sends beer across state
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- 49:54but those lawn chairs, remember the lawn ones you can lay on that had
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- 50:00Those critical that's right in your wheelhouse. Yeah, those tubes a rubber that
- 50:07went across. Yeah, sometimes when they get older, like you kind of
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- 50:43like that. There was a while a bit ago Hoppy thought he was confused,
- 50:50which isn't anything new about this program, whether or not the program aired
- 50:54live or not. And we we delicately and suddenly told him to know,
- 51:00Actually, this is a show that goes to tape and then immediately it has
- 51:02put out his podcast. The point of being live is we do have two
- 51:07live studio guests with us here during our taping today. It's Matthew Jones and
- 51:15Savannah Jones, father daughter. She's a sophomore journalism student here at the college
- 51:21uptown. And it works just like you did, right, Yeah, it
- 51:25just writes for the DA Investigative Reporter, kind of like not doing a piece
- 51:30today, like three guys before the game. It's a it's a scam.
- 51:36You should see what happens behind the scenes before they start recording. So her
- 51:43dad, Matthew, made a donation to a local charity. That's why they're
- 51:47here. But he's a p one listener, Oh, what do we got?
- 51:52So his wife Matthew. What's your wife's first name? Kathy? We
- 51:57love Kathy, I mean Matthew. And Savannah came and so did this little
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- 52:07if so, these are rice Crispi's treats, peanut butter, chocolate, some
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- 52:19that's what the that's what gives me twist. It's a good twist. Yeah,
- 52:22well, my gracious so, thank you so much. Yes, these
- 52:24are These are just absolutely terrific, Senator, you can imbibe. I'm going
- 52:29in shortly left, so to hurry up, start the text text Jackie,
- 52:35our producer, jumping Jack Carlson. Now he's got to go back to school
- 52:37soon. That'll be a sad day. This. I'm wearing a black arm
- 52:40band when Jack goes back to school. We have tried, you folks.
- 52:45You have no idea how much we've tried to talk him to go into the
- 52:46transfer port. Will just come to school here, but he won't. Won't
- 52:50do it. Won't do it. Facty, he gets a little bit weird
- 52:52when you bring it up, gets really uncomfortable. I like it. It's
- 52:54uncomfortable. Gets uncomfortable rarely, but I love making him uncomfortable, and he
- 53:00gets uncomfortable when I say, why don't you come to school here? He
- 53:04did not even entertain him that he wants to stay here. It just looks
- 53:07he just wants to get away. It's probably it's fine, that's fine.
- 53:12The other kid we had here, we worked like heck to chase him out
- 53:15and took us. Took us five years to get rid of Taylor. Jack.
- 53:17We want him to stay anyway, Hey, Jack, Fire up the
- 53:22graphic of fan following. So that's social media interactions on football social media accounts
- 53:30of the new schools in the Big eighteen sixteen. And look at that as
- 53:37far as following goes by U number one eighteen point two if I'm reading that
- 53:43correctly, and then West Virginia second most social media fin amazing seventeen point two
- 53:46million. But I think it's that that speaks to the to the passion that
- 53:52folks have Arizona, no one cares, Houston, no one cares. You're
- 53:55down to the bottom. You're four million people. Pretty amazing when you think
- 54:00Abart, Thank you, Jack. Meanwhile, Texter Hey, gentlemen, you
- 54:05can't outrun the flying WV. Recently, on a trip of a lifetime to
- 54:08Wyoming, Montana, Utah, my wife and I sported off get We were
- 54:14at Old Faithful in Yellowstone when a man from across the geyser sees us and
- 54:19begins to sing take me home to the place where I belong. Of course
- 54:22I was happy to finish the lyric for him. He was actually from Idaho,
- 54:25obviously knows the brand, which I'd bet a pontoon boat. That doesn't
- 54:29happen if I'm wearing a Rutger or a Vanderbilt shirt. All due respect,
- 54:31he's right on that. Also. A while back, we're car shopping here
- 54:36in town. We're in my blue and Gold. I hear a voice yell,
- 54:40let's go. I finished with my best mountaineers. We began to talk.
- 54:44He tells me he sold pop at the stadium. I quickly assessed the
- 54:49size of his neck, being as big as my thighs, and I said,
- 54:51you know, I don't think you did. He smiled and said he
- 54:53played. I asked his name, and all he gave me was Harris.
- 55:00Well, there were a couple of options to go, but as I stood
- 55:01trying to figure it out. He smile again and I said, it's okay,
- 55:05say it. Say the name. I said, kJ. Thank god,
- 55:08I was right. We talked more. Great guy, I've got more,
- 55:12but I'll spare the time. Thanks for the great kJ, Harris,
- 55:15Thanks for the great shows. Look forward to seeing you guys at the UCF
- 55:17game here in South Florida apparently the capital to pop selling mountaineers everywhere, Philip
- 55:23and Tampa. He's still kJ, still running at East Carolina. Crushed him
- 55:29three hundred and sixty plus. That was three thirty seven. They shut him
- 55:35down. He was all mad. I remember Rich took him out. He's
- 55:37on the side like, come on, he wanted four bills. Rich wouldn't
- 55:40do it. Texter Charlie from mid Lothian. Since all we talk about his
- 55:45conference realignment, here's breaking news. There you go, Dallas Cowboys into the
- 55:51big twelve comfis. Thank you very much. Well, girl had some nice
- 55:53throws on Saturday. Did he's like sixteen of twenty two a little bit better
- 55:58than that? Was it? Yeah? He was? Yeah? Yeah?
- 56:00Is he number two? Then? You know who played well for the Cowboys?
- 56:04Deuced Vaughan's won played really well Texter. Hey, three guys, Paul
- 56:09from Tampa. When you had Wren Baker on, he made a very insightful
- 56:13comment about evaluating Neil Brown at year's end, did we play disciplined football?
- 56:17I hear you three guys discussing how we were so close to winning two more
- 56:22football games, but then you went on to reveal the undisciplined football that caused
- 56:25us to lose. I think Ren gets it. Will continue to waller in
- 56:30mediocrity until our team plays sixty minutes of discipline football every week. That has
- 56:36been Brown's achilles heels since he's been in Morgantown. No matter what he has
- 56:39tried, his teams cannot put together sixty minutes, even in the most even
- 56:44in most victories. I hope he's figured it out because he seems like a
- 56:46great fit. Otherwise, I mean, he does not like Neil Brown.
- 56:50Speaking of weird things sticking in her head? Was at kJ Harris, I
- 56:52was right, three thirty seven. Well, now, why is that taking
- 56:54up space in my brain? It is, and it's there forever forever you'll
- 57:00be on your deathbed, would you kJ Harris said, three thirty seven?
- 57:02Would you have for dinner? Saturday? Night Quick doesn't know seven with j
- 57:08Harris at three thirty seven. By the way, it's you know that's that's
- 57:12often said. I think of what coaches say, gotta play sixty minutes of
- 57:14football, got to play every play. Brad, you don't, I mean,
- 57:15realistically, you don't. Okay, that doesn't happen. You're gonna make
- 57:20mistakes. You just want to make fewer mistakes than the other team, right,
- 57:23and you want to just have just a couple less mistakes. That's all.
- 57:28You don't have to be mistake free, just make a few less mistakes.
- 57:30Fair, fair? What did you? Tony just killed? We need
- 57:35to you did? You did not think that out? Kathy? You couldn't
- 57:37stand yourself. I couldn't stand it, but I got it done. You
- 57:39guys were talking. I shoot Kathy Jones, first Team All Conference official rights
- 57:45Christian. We treated three guys before the game. I'm going in shortly,
- 57:47Alredy, go hit it text or Tony the better passer will eventually emerge as
- 57:52a starter. Tony, where does this leave all the other sports at these
- 57:58schools? Tony? There is a gallon limit on the gas. So this
- 58:02person just had three random thoughts they'd tried to put together. Charlie from Midlothlean's
- 58:07out there filling tanker trucks full of gas with his Kroger points card. As
- 58:12Dan Wetzl just said, where does this leave all the other sports at these
- 58:15schools? Scrambling scrambling and not in a good position. The better passer will
- 58:22eventually emerge as the starter. I disagree. The quarterback who makes the fewest
- 58:27mistakes and can make the biggest plays will be to come the starter. Yeah,
- 58:30it helps if you throw it. Text her Garrett and Alaska haven't checked
- 58:38in with you guys for a bit. Snapped my humorists had surgery a few
- 58:43Did you hear what I said? I'm sorry he snapped his humorists and had
- 58:45surgery a few weeks ago. Someone, you could understand what you had to
- 58:49have major orthopedic surgery this summer. How good are those? Awesome? Yeah?
- 58:54Keep talking? Just wondering who I should talk to about getting the University
- 58:58of Alaska Anchorage, Sea Wall and the University of Alaska Fairbanks and the Nooks
- 59:01into the big twelve. Figure. If four time zones is good, whatever
- 59:07nonsense they do out in Arizona, why not go five with Alaska Standard time.
- 59:10Thanks as always for the show. Glad we're back to two a week.
- 59:14PS. Sunset is still after ten pm here, which means it's still
- 59:17summer. TC. Wow, it is getting darker quicker. You ever been
- 59:22to Alaska, Tony? Never have? I'd love to text or Hey,
- 59:25three guys, this is the basketball Nana. I just have a question.
- 59:30Why was Omar Silverio's request for a waiver denied? I think the shortest answer
- 59:36would be because academically he had not graduated, and uh, the NCAA decided
- 59:44to enforce a rule. Yeah, the big ones can't take a stand on
- 59:49this the third time. But the rech gets next some receiver down at Carolina
- 59:53and now Silverio. I'm telling you this, I got the big ones coming
- 59:59the rate. The akwon battle one that's going to be the one that's going
- 1:00:02to be a real under the belt shot. If that does not get approved,
- 1:00:07they need him. Yeah, Texter, I want to start off by
- 1:00:10saying I love Neil Brown as a person. I'll add in here now here
- 1:00:15comes a heater, and I'm wishing him well this season. Just wondering if
- 1:00:17the season does unfortunately start out Rocky, is he gone mid season? For
- 1:00:22contract reasons or would he stay all year long? Also, if he does
- 1:00:25go, who is a candidate? Would West Virginia welcome Jimbo Fisher if he
- 1:00:30gets let go at A and M. It's I think Rin Baker what we've
- 1:00:37come to know about him. I think he's a very very deliberate guy.
- 1:00:38I think he's playing chess. I don't think he's playing checkers. I think
- 1:00:42he's thought about various scenarios brand throughout the season. But I'll tell you this,
- 1:00:47if you start one and two and then that Texas Tech game looms large
- 1:00:52and you go one and three, it's gonna get really, really hot Texter.
- 1:00:58I need you guys to let me know if I'm being a Karen or
- 1:01:00not. So I ordered season tickets for football this year, and it's the
- 1:01:05first year we were able to do this, which is pretty exciting for us.
- 1:01:08So we ordered them over the phone at the ticket office and they asked
- 1:01:12if we wanted them by mail with the graphics on the tickets, and we
- 1:01:15said yes because we would like to keep them since it's our first time being
- 1:01:17season ticket holders. So as we're waiting to get our tickets delivered, we
- 1:01:22call the ticket office just to see if they've been sent. Come to find
- 1:01:27out, they said that we have our tickets by mobile delivery. I told
- 1:01:30them we ordered the card stock tickets with the graphics. They said, sorry,
- 1:01:36must have been misunderstood you. There's nothing we can do now. Am
- 1:01:39I being a Karen? Or Am I rightfully super pissed about this? Thanks?
- 1:01:44I love the show, folks. This question right here is exactly why
- 1:01:50Brad Howe is no longer in college athletics. I was just gonna say,
- 1:01:53you better not ask me my opinion on what's your opinion? I don't have
- 1:01:57one. Excuse me. Sorry, I'm sorry they didn't get their tickets like
- 1:02:00that you're doing. But you did what I mean, I would value your
- 1:02:07expertise in such matters. Thank you. Happy. I think that was a
- 1:02:09well phrased way to get him. Don't have any expertise in that anymore.
- 1:02:13That's why I got out. So basically, what you're saying is you had
- 1:02:15a lot of these to deal with. Is that a correct statement? I
- 1:02:20know other things? Why did you? Why did you tighten up all he's
- 1:02:24got he's got? Here's the thing, you know, if if when you
- 1:02:30have trauma, he's got he's got a whole different kind of PTSD, whole
- 1:02:34PTSD ticket post post ticket syndrome disorder. And it's not easy for people who've
- 1:02:42been through that to go back and talk about these things public Now, maybe
- 1:02:45privately he would talk with somebody about it professionally, get some get some help
- 1:02:49with that. But I'm sorry that happened to them. The ticket office may
- 1:02:52not be able to go back and do it, as they stated. I'm
- 1:02:55sorry that's the case. I spent a lot of time solving issues that were
- 1:03:00unsolvable. I'm not I got out so I don't have to try and solve
- 1:03:02the unsolvable. I'm sorry for all involved. Thoughts and prayers headed out to
- 1:03:07both parties. It's a very very careful, thoughtful You ever have any Brad
- 1:03:16in your business dealings at the department, any situations involving cheerleaders like Pom poms,
- 1:03:23mountaineer rifle, transportation, anything like that, that's still kind of maybe
- 1:03:28haunched a little bit. Hope it was wonderful, all easy, no issues,
- 1:03:32proma ties. Yeah, here to see. I didn't know that,
- 1:03:35Brad. He's blinked it out. He hasn't gotta go deep into the recess,
- 1:03:39but you can remember how many yards at kJ Harris had text Bobby from
- 1:03:46Myrtle Beach. Imagine that I'm a Mountaineer fan living here, they say,
- 1:03:52Ask copy. He said he was not going to count Penn State. Ask
- 1:03:55him if he's going to count the Alabama game in a couple of years.
- 1:03:58Great show, y'all have. When is the BAM again? I don't know?
- 1:04:00Probably is? I think it's two two? Is there another big twelve?
- 1:04:06I mean another Power five game? And by then it's only Alabama?
- 1:04:13I think is the one Power five that's on that I'll count. Sean from
- 1:04:17Raleigh, North Carolina writes, Greetings, gentlemen, It's been a while since
- 1:04:21I've texted. Only one thing to do is weigh in on no Hoppy.
- 1:04:26I don't think it's necessary to say that Neil Brown's job is on the line
- 1:04:29and your promo. Everyone knows it. No, it's not your job to
- 1:04:31be the cheerleader. But let's support the players. It's all up to them
- 1:04:34anyway. Will you re record if they start seven and zero? I personally
- 1:04:39am hoping for some positivity surrounding WV after a rough spring an early summer.
- 1:04:43Sean from Raleigh. Get a lot of blowback on this promo, Texter,
- 1:04:48Why everybody knows that everybody knows you're playing Penn State too, but you you
- 1:04:51promote that everybody knows the game time, But you're promoting that they really don't
- 1:04:56know the game time. A lot of people, a lot of those they
- 1:04:59don't follow us closely. We do text her. While that's some way to
- 1:05:01promote the opening game against Penn State, Neil Brown's job is on the line.
- 1:05:04That's pretty low even for lib Central Metro News. Way to sell positivity,
- 1:05:10Let's go not selling Sam's as you've opened up a candle worms. I'm
- 1:05:17not selling positivity, I'm not selling negativity. I'm selling a storyline which I
- 1:05:24think is real and it exists. Texter just finished the latest episode. I
- 1:05:31have to take spreads his side on the always under promise and over deliver issue.
- 1:05:36I'm sure you all can pull off the food court. Looking forward to
- 1:05:41the episode after the scrimmage of static over the two episodes a week, returning
- 1:05:45Michael and Kelodin. What's the latest on that effort? Food Court? Yeah,
- 1:05:49going, great effort. It's only been to a meeting bread He may
- 1:05:57have had a sidebar. I did things going swimming made I then had a
- 1:06:02sidebar after his sidebar to go through the real things. Okay, Tony's comes
- 1:06:05in and go. It's gonna be great, guys, fantastic brand. Take
- 1:06:12the details. You got it? There we go. Did you do it?
- 1:06:15Tony On? You? Would you? Guys, I'm not gonna say
- 1:06:18that now what No, say it. I'll do it afterwards say it.
- 1:06:24No, don't because usually when he says that, then it's over promising something
- 1:06:27that we got to fix on the back end. So would you make a
- 1:06:29public appearance there? Hell on the onlim on the spot? When you would?
- 1:06:34Well, we normally do it Saturdays of the day of the game.
- 1:06:38That's why I would. Yeah, Okay, he would, he would awesome.
- 1:06:43Text her. Check with my spokesman. I gotta text her. It
- 1:06:47happened. Taking any questions, we already addressed that in the meeting. Is
- 1:06:53this your last show for this week? When you leave, I'll be here
- 1:06:55Thursday. Okay, text her. It happened. Back in Morgantown after two
- 1:06:59years, and finally got my hands on some kerchiveil at the wonderful Varsity Club
- 1:07:03Worth the Way, great beer. One question, have you seen or heard
- 1:07:09anything that shows any chance of a second year jump, such as Mario Alford's
- 1:07:13from Cortez Braham or Jeremiah Aaron. What was he drinking? Jack? Oh
- 1:07:18oh, that looks icy cold. Yeah, good pictures. Remember when we
- 1:07:23had Bill ker lavitchan and he said, like a head on that beer.
- 1:07:28It's about right, that's about right. Yeah, it's perfect. That's been
- 1:07:30very popular at the Varsity Club. They do. They have a nice glass.
- 1:07:34Every time I've been in there, there's been multiple people drinking that.
- 1:07:38Yeah, I'll answer that. Braham and Aaron. That the small super small
- 1:07:42sample size here, But the last practice I was at would have been what
- 1:07:46Friday, Braham had an unbelievable one handed catch in the back of the end
- 1:07:50zone. Beautiful catch, looks great. And Aaron the other day Hunter and
- 1:07:55I were standing there watching and you couldn't tell much because they weren't going against
- 1:07:58anybody. Just one of those swing passes and get up field and turned out
- 1:08:02to be Aaron took off in the speed like I was like moving Hunter,
- 1:08:06who's that? What dude? What numbers here? Jeremiharon? Okay, get
- 1:08:11him the ball in space. Small sample size are but understood text. Good
- 1:08:15things from both of them. Good afternoon, three guys, brad here on
- 1:08:18Interstate sixty four. Did Charles Wesley God wouldn't have you guys fired up to
- 1:08:24run into Happy Valley like you were in the movie Brave Heart? Or was
- 1:08:27it just me so show? Charles spoke to the team last week and then
- 1:08:31they put a portion of his speech to the to the team on social media
- 1:08:38to get people fired up. He did a nice job. That was a
- 1:08:41good speech. It was actually the unedited version was even more get your get
- 1:08:45your blood boiling, and he did a nice job. Yes he did.
- 1:08:49I already corrected. He's not, I said, Luke. It's Zach zach
- 1:08:54r texter, longtime fan, ear alum, but I'm a newish three Guys
- 1:09:01listener. What is the background on efforty? Is it a verb sarcasm or
- 1:09:08is there more to the story? Right means you're trying working on it,
- 1:09:14working on it, that's all we stole it did steal it? Stole it
- 1:09:16from Dan Patrick show shorthand for working on it? How are we doing on
- 1:09:23blank? And if you're actively working on it but don't have the final langy
- 1:09:27to say efforting, how are we doing on the outside food court next to
- 1:09:30Daniel's Men's store for the football games. Efforty text or three guys, just
- 1:09:38a comment on the PAC twelve and arrogance. I read today the presidents of
- 1:09:42the PAC twelve were offered thirty million dollars per school by ESPN after losing USC
- 1:09:46and UCLA. The PAC twelve is no more attractive and likely less attractive than
- 1:09:50the Big twelve that received a market value of thirty one point seven million per
- 1:09:55teen. Presidents turned this down, countered with fifty million again without USC and
- 1:10:00UCLA. That is arrogance and that likely got what they deserved when ESPN said
- 1:10:05no thanks to the fifty mill. Stuart Mandel did a really good job in
- 1:10:10The Athletic yesterday on the ten year demise of the PAC twelve. Made a
- 1:10:15great story. Starts it with they were at the pinnacle and then how did
- 1:10:19it happen? And basically it's, you know, arrogance sleeping at the wheel
- 1:10:24and not taking a deal, and then Big twelve jumping in front of them,
- 1:10:27and you know that's it. Chris from Marietta Rights looking at the depth
- 1:10:32of the running backs and a somewhat unproven receiving corps. It seems that defenses
- 1:10:38are going to load the box and cover zero and use a lot of man
- 1:10:41press. Getting a guy that can take the top off the defense is absolutely
- 1:10:45necessary, as well as a quarterback that can make the throw fifty percent of
- 1:10:49the time. Also, Shelton Gibson was probably the last guy that we had
- 1:10:54to could do that. Well. Chris, tell you what, buddy,
- 1:10:59you gave us the You gave us the football soap dictionary. There, let's
- 1:11:03see we got load the box, cover zero, take the top off the
- 1:11:08defense, bing bing big. That's a winner. And he's right, and
- 1:11:13he's right. We've talked about it many times. EJ. Horton is a
- 1:11:15guy that's you know, I'm pulling you know, some of those bracketologists when
- 1:11:19they've gone TV when the field of sixty four is getting ready to be announced
- 1:11:23and they have like eighty three teams in. Everybody should get in. That's
- 1:11:25how I am with my top five most important players this year. I've got
- 1:11:29like ten jammed in the top five. EJ. Horton's way up there.
- 1:11:30Guys, he's got to be the speed guy. Are you eating another one?
- 1:11:33No, it's same one. I'm finishing it. He's got to be
- 1:11:36able to get deep. They've got to get him the ball and loosen that
- 1:11:39defense up. Absolutely agree with Chris, Sir, get deep win one on
- 1:11:42one battles he makes Chris makes mention from him, Shelton Gibson the great thing.
- 1:11:46Shelton Gibson was the best over the shoulder receiver I've ever seen. Really,
- 1:11:54I think when you say Brett, yeah, I mean that was his
- 1:11:56absolute elite skill set of the ball coming in into But in order to do
- 1:12:00that, it has to come in as Bobby Bowden would say, Now,
- 1:12:03in order to catch it that way, Brad, it has to come in
- 1:12:06that way, you have got to be able to throw it. Yeah.
- 1:12:10So that's now you can throw it and you can catch it. Hop I
- 1:12:13do think Garrett has an opportunity to put that ball along and deep and you
- 1:12:16gotta you know, I do, text her, I love your show.
- 1:12:23Question. Comment from diehard Navy and Mountaineer fan from Beckley, I'm a Naval
- 1:12:27Academy grad, I mean a person smart. We hear about our big line
- 1:12:33being a strength and our depth into the backfield, right, we need a
- 1:12:36pass threat in the quarterback position. I believe if Neil is going to make
- 1:12:41Green the man, everyone is going to put everything and the sink in the
- 1:12:45box. We may as well line up in triple action option, just like
- 1:12:49my alma mater start signed by a frustrated West Virginia Naval aviator. A little
- 1:12:59bit late for that. Uh, that's not something you can just kind of
- 1:13:01put in. They I mean they know that though that Garrett sat right in
- 1:13:05this exact chair and when we said what do you what do you work?
- 1:13:08Only need to work? He said, I need to be able to throw
- 1:13:10the ball if I have to throw the ball to win. They know that
- 1:13:13that's coming. Hey, Hoppy read I can't read that. Read the beginning
- 1:13:15there you're following? Uh? Is that is that Spanish? Yeah, it's
- 1:13:21Spanish. I thought you. I mean you've traveled all over the world.
- 1:13:26Hey trade Chico's and taes tuegoo. Hey trade chicos antos diluegos. That like,
- 1:13:31Hey, three guys before the game is hey trade chicost dil guejo guego
- 1:13:40with Hopper's Donner Party analogy for conference realignment. Let's not forget that those ill
- 1:13:45fated pioneers endeavored to make the same trip that future Big Ten members will be
- 1:13:49undertaking on a regular basis midwest to west coast. Perhaps that's a good perspective
- 1:13:55to take when we complain about increased travel from these realignment moves. We've gone
- 1:13:59from the journey maybe ending with drawing straws and eating Grandpa, to not good
- 1:14:03enough peanut butter to chocolate ratio in ours in flight snacks. In fact,
- 1:14:09in honor of the conferences new geography, I propose that the Big Ten sponsor
- 1:14:13and new sport donner ball student athletes start in the spring at Rutgers campus with
- 1:14:17a covered wagon and some basic hand tools and race to arrive at UCLA's campus
- 1:14:23without using any highways or modern amenities. Points are deducted for every member of
- 1:14:28the party that gets eaten along the way. Since TV viewership is driving this
- 1:14:31whole thing, I'm sure the live stream of Maryland's team debating which teammate is
- 1:14:35next will get killer ratings. Thanks again for all you fellas Dude, Derek
- 1:14:39and Oregon. So he took your and built on it in a different way.
- 1:14:44Yeah, Texter Logan from Greenboro County. The state fair is in for
- 1:14:49the week and I went a few days this past week and I definitely saw
- 1:14:54and felt not only a West Virginia connection, but a three guys connection.
- 1:14:57On Friday, I went and saw Grammy win Nelly. During the concert,
- 1:15:01he performed a cover of Sexual Healing, but the whole time I'm singing Textual
- 1:15:06Healing. On Saturday, went with my dad. We walked around a few
- 1:15:11hours and we got to talk to the Mountaineer mascot and even try out the
- 1:15:14new hit coffee that was even served a few weeks back. So the Mountain
- 1:15:17Table people are serving coffee at State What we made it to the State Fair
- 1:15:21dog excellent, well done. On our way home, none other than Sweet
- 1:15:26Caroline played on the radio. We sang the clean version. But just a
- 1:15:29good day for both of us. Thanks for all you guys do Texter,
- 1:15:33Hello three guys. Since my last text about choosing loss combinations was a bit
- 1:15:39convoluted, I decided to take a similar approach simpler friends. Which game is
- 1:15:45more important for the Mountaineers to win this season? Texas Tech or Cincinnata.
- 1:15:48Texas Tech has owned Neil Brown for four years and a couple of times they've
- 1:15:53embarrassed the years on the field. Losing to them once again would be unbearable.
- 1:15:58I know Tech supposed to be good this year. I wouldn't say they're
- 1:16:00going to be elite. On the other hand, Cincinnata as an old rival,
- 1:16:04we need to start off on the right foot in this renewed rivalry with
- 1:16:08a win. The Mountaineers are going to be seeing the Bearcats a lot going
- 1:16:11forward, so it would hurt to start off the news series with Laws at
- 1:16:15Home signed by Delbert in the ad A ndex that's a that's a good one.
- 1:16:19Both both you beat them, both need them both due to beat Texas
- 1:16:24Tech. At Texas Tech could be a massive win considering where it falls.
- 1:16:28Potentially puts you at three in one. Right, if you can get pitt
- 1:16:30or or get you too, I think you're gonna better than that. That
- 1:16:38would that that one's massive. You're due, You're due to his point.
- 1:16:41But Cincinnati's also one of those teams. You've got to beat them, You've
- 1:16:45got to make them take a couple of years to get used to this.
- 1:16:47Yes, both agreed. Texter. Hey, three guys, I'm in Morgantown
- 1:16:53for the week visiting family. Took my girls to the rail trail for some
- 1:16:57exercise. We saw none other than Boston Celtics had coach Joe Missoula. I
- 1:17:01couldn't help but say hello and let him know we are rooting for him.
- 1:17:04Incredibly nice of him to take time and talk to me for a few minutes.
- 1:17:09Maybe you can get him on three guys. Hell, if he's down
- 1:17:12here at the rail trail, we probably just go down the steps and yell.
- 1:17:16Also pass this on my way to West Virginia. There it is.
- 1:17:20That's Penn State Stadium. On his way up here. Let's go love the
- 1:17:25show. Grant and Danville pass that stadium's change a little bit through the years.
- 1:17:30Now, that's a tough place to be. That's a tough place to
- 1:17:32play. That place is going to be. Let's do it, Texter Yogi
- 1:17:39Chris Salt Lake City. Now that b YU and Utah are in the Big
- 1:17:43Twelve, wearing the fly in West Virginia in the state of Utah takes on
- 1:17:45a whole new meeting. Feedback from speaking to our new member fans. B
- 1:17:50YU fans are extremely grateful to be in the Big twelve. Utah fans are
- 1:17:57bitter and upset. Even referring to the Big twelve is a truck stop conference.
- 1:18:01Really, I think they should be grateful to be in a conference.
- 1:18:05You three make me laugh. I love the show. Until next time.
- 1:18:09Yogi Chris in Salt Lake City? What's Utah? What bird are they having
- 1:18:13under their settle? Well? I wrote back to him, and I said,
- 1:18:15you should tell the b YU fans to tell the Utah fans how that
- 1:18:19independent status works, how that feels, and leave it at that. And
- 1:18:25if they want to go in. If Utah wants to be independent since they
- 1:18:27don't want to be in the Big twelve perhaps or they don't want to be
- 1:18:30obviously, and what was the PAC twelve, go that independent route, see
- 1:18:33how that works. I'll tell you what I know what I told him,
- 1:18:36I said, it won't be long before they'll be running to try to get
- 1:18:40into a Philip sixty six. You know what's gonna be weird is on game
- 1:18:45day seasons rolling along and you're talking about not only obviously you're a game,
- 1:18:50but also conference games. You go, oh, b y U and Utah
- 1:18:53are playing today in them an important conference matchup. That's going to be weird.
- 1:19:00Doing some business right now? What are you doing? Well? What
- 1:19:03are you doing? This guy just texted me wants he wants fine looking Phil's
- 1:19:08number. We're still on the air. But he's a prominent he's a prominent.
- 1:19:15No, he we know who this guy is. The guy needs a
- 1:19:17suit, So I'm just gonna just send him fills stuff right now. Why
- 1:19:20wouldn't you do that. We're just guy's going in for a suit. He
- 1:19:23needs a suit. Phil takes care of those things. He does, I
- 1:19:27mean one hour on the outs obviously because of this promo thing. No,
- 1:19:30Phil's very No, No, he likes you. He listen you're He's a
- 1:19:34P one listener. Your show is on his on his store every single day.
- 1:19:39He listens to you religiously. I mean he gets an opinion just like
- 1:19:44you can use yours. I mean he just had his. He doesn't hate
- 1:19:46you. He just made him raise an eyebrow. As all it was.
- 1:19:51I should rethink. Then take your time and do what you want to do.
- 1:19:55So you're here Thursday, Yeah, and then see you like after the
- 1:20:00leaves come off the trees. Well, I'll be uh, I'm taking a
- 1:20:05sabbatical. Sabbatical. Sabbatical. Sabbaticals are pretty good, aren't they. I'm
- 1:20:13just gonna just caught just a sabbatical, that's all you guys, it'll be
- 1:20:15fine. But I mean we're gonna be fine. We're gonna miss Uncle Hoppy.
- 1:20:19I mean, you know how we kind of become attached to you by
- 1:20:23the way I saw Nathan more of an acquired taste. But yeah, we
- 1:20:26saw Nathan Adrian this morning. Where his way out? You see him at
- 1:20:29the airport. No, I was leaving it. I was over there having
- 1:20:30coffee, having coffee this morning and good because and here he comes walking in.
- 1:20:38I said, dude, when you leave in Fridley, he said,
- 1:20:40eleven am today? Yeah, he's out. What team did he get with?
- 1:20:44So I don't know the name, but it's an hour east of Milan.
- 1:20:47Did you get up in the next Syria? Syria? Yeah? Cool?
- 1:20:50Made a big boy? Isn't a big boy? So he's he's in
- 1:20:54an hour east of Milan and his first game is September one, only cal
- 1:21:00It's just like you had no office, just like came here, worked out,
- 1:21:04did now he's got to play. Hey, yeah, well we all
- 1:21:11go to work every day, right, he's a professional basketball player, Like
- 1:21:13he goes to work. Yeah, good point. He goes to work.
- 1:21:15That's what they do. So yeah, hopefully he has another great great season.
- 1:21:21That'd be good. So thanks to our studio audience. What yeah,
- 1:21:26I was gonna say that, I'm sorry, go ahead, I mean Savannah,
- 1:21:29Savannah and Matthew Jones, thank you guys very much for being here.
- 1:21:31I hope it's as stupid as you thought it was before you got here,
- 1:21:34but really probably we like you. We love your wife. I mean that's
- 1:21:41Kathy came in. Kathy kind of came into Savannah and matter are Matthew all
- 1:21:45right, But I'll tell you what. I'll see them and I'll give you
- 1:21:48those treats. Well done. Food court's going well that the three guys.
- 1:21:55Food court continues continues to develop, and it's going extremely well. And it's
- 1:22:00gonna be quite a time people over there looking for a food court. Second
- 1:22:04game, there won't be one. Yeah, and Tony won't be there.
- 1:22:05He'll be in the stadium, just like. I don't know what happened some
- 1:22:10hey, I thought there was gonna be a food court. I don't know
- 1:22:12how the hell those guys screw dead up. I had it all set up,
- 1:22:15some Brad did, Brad didn't sign some papers or something like that,
- 1:22:17and so the whole thing didn't happen sixteen permits, slenders, diagrams, diagrams,
- 1:22:29power water, potable potable water, three three months, sin Sinc.
- 1:22:36With three things and sanitizer. There's a lot of things that do go into
- 1:22:42it, lawyers, but we'll have it ready. We'll have a ready.
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- 1:23:04where's my food? Food? Tuck in here? You gotta pick up with
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- 1:24:14All right, we're all season Desist from the James Bond movies. Exactly.
- 1:24:17I get in trouble for one line. And you say anything, you
- 1:24:20say anything all the time and get away with it. Why is that?
- 1:24:28That's so true too? That's what my wife says. But I said,
- 1:24:30you could say anything to everybody who's go ahead and all the time and you
- 1:24:33get away with it. It's incredible. Well, maybe it's the tone that
- 1:24:38you say you're sin. Maybe the tone I'm sorry, I'm not happy,
- 1:24:42like giddy all the time about stuff. Unhappy hoppy the Senator special thank you
- 1:24:47to Dan Wetsel. He was fantastic for the Jones crew that's in. We're
- 1:24:51out three guys before the game. We'll chat Thursday. See you. I
- 1:25:00am no where,